WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:50.719 The following presentation is Nadel margat Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around 2 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.679 the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I 3 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:00.600 hope this podcast finds everyone well. And today we have a special guests standing 4 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.640 by who will be joining us in just a moment. His name is Joe 5 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.840 from Minnesota. I think this is the fourth or fifth person we've had from 6 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.480 Minnesota. Looking forward to the conversation before we bring him on, just a 7 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:11.840 couple of notes of interest, of course, if you'd like to join the 8 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.799 show, questions, comments or concerns, you can find us at the flat 9 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:21.560 earth Files at gmail dot com. 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Thanks for having me on. George, 20 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.120 Yeah, it's great to meet you. You know, before we get 21 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.280 into the conversation, you can tell the listeners a little bit about yourself. 22 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.120 Well, I'm a I'm a fifty year old guy from Minnesota, born and 23 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:14.719 raised here my whole life. And you know, as you had mentioned throughout 24 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:19.599 your podcast series that twenty twenty was kind of the year that changed everything and 25 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.759 opened up a lot of people's eyes, and that I would say that that's 26 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:30.159 kind of part of the awakening that I had, so not necessarily on flat 27 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.240 Earth, but just about government things and and different situations from from there. 28 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.039 And I'll go into more of my stuff, but I run a business, 29 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.840 So during twenty twenty, I was trying to run a business and have employees 30 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.719 work from home and things like that. But in the in the last year, 31 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.120 so I've just decided, you know, I was going to google flat 32 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.159 Earth and see if I could debunk it, and somehow I came across the 33 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.840 fact fact Hunter podcast, and you had mentioned your other podcast, the Flat 34 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.479 Earth Files, So I gave that a try just to debunk it, and 35 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:04.960 I've been listening to it ever since. I've kind of put my fantasy football 36 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.560 podcasts on hold. Yeah, it is almost that time of year right now 37 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.599 that that's one of the things that I indulge myself to just because it's it's 38 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.240 more of a family event than anything else. I couldn't even tell you who 39 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.520 the starting quarterback is for the Tennessee Titans, but it's just something we do 40 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.199 as a family and it was something that was important to my dad. We 41 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.360 carry on that tradition. So it is funny for me at least. I 42 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.240 don't want to speak for anyone else. But as I came into the truth 43 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.599 community and that the more that I realized conspiracy theories were not theories, they 44 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.639 were the truth. Kind of, like you said, some of the things 45 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:43.319 that were kind of important to me, like the sports and music. I 46 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.439 had a music podcast back in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen that was doing really well 47 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.759 breaking down eighties rock and roll and led Zeppelin four and all these other things. 48 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.120 They kind of take a back seat, At least for me it did, 49 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:59.719 because I realized that these are all part of the distractions and don't get 50 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.120 me wrong, it's nice to have distractions from time to time, but I 51 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:09.039 think sometimes we take some of those distractions and we kind of lose focus on 52 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.840 what we really should be focused on. What are your thoughts on that? 53 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.719 Yeah, you know, I would agree with that definitely. As I've gotten 54 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:20.360 into your podcasts and listen to it, you know, definitely some of the 55 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.040 other things that were top of mind is interested in mine. I've kind of 56 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:29.439 fallen off and I've taken less importance of them. Now as I've delved into 57 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.199 it, you know, I'm enjoying them again, you know, I'm bringing 58 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.680 them back and and the two can go hand in hand. So I am 59 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:40.079 enjoying it and but at the same time still learning about you know, going 60 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.959 down this rabbit hole hasn't taken all of my time, but just enough to 61 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.319 keep me interested and keep me engaged. There you go. One of the 62 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.480 reasons I sent my email to you is because I found as you have guests 63 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:55.040 on and as you go through your stuff, I found myself almost like talking 64 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.120 to your podcast, going oh no, no, no, I agree with 65 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.639 that, or no, that's wrong, or you know, and so I 66 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.279 said, well, you know, instead of having a dialogue with the podcast. 67 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.959 Maybe send an email and I could be a guest. There you go, 68 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:12.160 and I appreciate that. And it's like I was telling you before we 69 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.439 hit the record button, that is certainly had. The podcast has taken on 70 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.680 a life of its own. And the thing that people when they email me, 71 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:23.800 what resonates with them the most is listening to people's journey to the truth, 72 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.879 because that is what makes this the podcast unique, is listening to people's 73 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.439 journey, and it really resonates with them. And one of the common components 74 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:38.079 that we hear over and over again is that year of twenty twenty when people 75 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.160 say, wait a second, really, and I think they overplayed their cards, 76 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.680 and I think there's a big reason that had a lot to do with 77 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.600 a great awakening that we're seeing today. I agree. And as long as 78 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.839 you mentioned that, you know, I kind of if you're okay, I'll 79 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:56.720 dive right into it. It's done on your overplaying in a hand. So 80 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:03.199 being from Minnesota, the hand while a hand was overplayed, you'd be surprised 81 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:09.160 that it wasn't really overplayed. So I am actually shocked at how many people 82 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.279 just fell in line. So while it may have been overplayed and woke up 83 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.160 a group of people. And again I don't really like that wake up versus 84 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.279 a sleep thing. I understand where it comes from, right, but to 85 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:23.160 use that terminology, it woke up a lot of people. But I was 86 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:30.000 amazed at how many people friends, family, colleagues just went along with the 87 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.680 program. And so while it did wake up a group certain subset of the 88 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:39.879 population, the numbers are still on the government side, oh one hundred percent. 89 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.920 Now let me ask you a question. During the course of twenty twenty, 90 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.279 did you see the device? How it divided like kind of many families, 91 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:55.120 even include in my extended family. It was a divisive you know, 92 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.920 you're not getting the vaccine? Are you crazy? You know you're not. 93 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.759 You know that type of thing. Is that something that you saw firstand as 94 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:05.439 well, So this is probably a good transition sort into our story. So, 95 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.160 you know, I run a business and right around I remember it was 96 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.240 a couple of days before Saint Patrick's Day of twenty twenty. You know, 97 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.439 we had to send our employees home and figure out how they can work remote. 98 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:21.120 So we all went home. I spent two weeks at home. Kids 99 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.720 are at home from school, and after two weeks. My wife said, 100 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.120 you got to go back to work because this isn't going to work with all 101 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.399 of us in the house together. And and you know, I run a 102 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.399 business, so there's there's a physical location, We get mail, we got 103 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.160 applications, we got you know, there's things that need to happen. So 104 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.040 a business partner of mine and I we decided, you know, we have 105 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.079 to go into the office. And it was really weird driving on the freeway 106 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.399 that was completely empty, completely empty, and I'm nervous that I'm going to 107 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:54.959 get pulled over and have to justify myself for driving into work. I mean 108 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.879 that that's how weird it was. It was just like out of a movie. 109 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.680 And there were times I was nervous, like like what if I get 110 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.040 arrested? You know, it's just one of those things. And everything's in 111 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.319 lockdown. The building is dark, that lights are off, so, you 112 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.720 know, and I'm going to downtown Minneapolis and I'm using key cards to get 113 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:16.319 in, and so there's a there's a computer record that I'm doing all this, 114 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.160 and there's cameras, you know, and I'm always wondering, like, 115 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.279 am I actually going to get arrested for just going into work, but you 116 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:26.639 know what, we were critical people because we had to keep the business running. 117 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:30.800 We did have to physically be in the office and do things. So 118 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.720 that's a small transition that was kind of around that that March time frame, 119 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.279 and I still remember Easter of that timeframe and my wife or my wife and 120 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.159 I we took it very seriously and if it's if it's a virus, you 121 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.279 know, we had I wouldn't call myself a prepper, but I'm prepared. 122 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.840 We had N ninety five masks stashed and so that time, like, you 123 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.360 know, we had the N ninety five masks with us because if it's a 124 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.600 real virus, you need an N ninety five mask. I mean, you 125 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.360 know, that's just what you do. And I remember giving them to my 126 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.919 parents and my in laws. I'm remember that Easter vividly because we went and 127 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.039 had Easter in my parents' front yard and we were wearing our N ninety five 128 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.919 masks and my parents and I don't want to disparage them or anything like that, 129 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.159 but their understanding of it was a little bit differently. So they'd come 130 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.879 out and give us hugs or whatever, you know, and We're like, 131 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:16.600 no, no, no, you gotta keep your distance, and they're like, 132 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.600 no, that's okay, we washed our hands inside. You know, 133 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:24.039 there's there's this element of like, well, they're not quite understanding what this 134 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.159 virus is and how it can work, you know. And I'll continue with 135 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.399 that story a little bit later because it dovetails into one of my awakenings of 136 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:37.360 what this virus really was. Well, i'll actually just go into that story 137 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:41.360 that. So then through that spring, my parents and I have a handicapped 138 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.000 sister who's older, and she still lives at home. She goes to her 139 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.360 boyfriend's you know, probably every other week, and they go out and about 140 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:56.399 and do things. And to be blunt, my dad and my sister didn't 141 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.519 really quarantine very well. They were out there doing things. And I remember 142 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.879 turning to my outh one time and I said, if my dad and my 143 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.279 sister haven't caught up by no, it's not contagious. And it's kind of 144 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.159 a punchline, but there was an element of truth to that. And I 145 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.519 remember watching the you know, all those press conferences that Trump had with Fauci 146 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.080 and everything. We every day we watched them, you know, like we 147 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.120 were just glued to the TV. Finding I was going on, and when 148 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:26.000 it started not making sense, that's when my wife and I are like, 149 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:33.000 like, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, and man, there's so many 150 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.679 ways to go with that. Number one. I'm in the same line of 151 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.799 you. I'm I think it's okay. I don't If you want to call 152 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.919 me a prepper, that's fine. But I think one thing that people should 153 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.879 learn, if we go back to twenty twenty again, if you wait for 154 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.639 something to happen to get prepared, it's already too late. If you remember 155 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.879 how quickly the things like the toilet paper and things like that go out the 156 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.240 window. So we've made it. We have one spare room that we turned 157 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.639 into just a room for nonperishables we can. My wife just goes to the 158 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.000 garden, you know, a couple of times a week, and she cans 159 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:11.320 everything. So we take it seriously because I kind of see I believe this 160 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.360 is a little bit off topic here, but I believe that the stock market 161 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.919 is falsely being kept up. I think during the day you'll see it. 162 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.200 I don't know how if you keep an eye on it that much, you're 163 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.759 not. But I see it in the morning it'll drop two three hundred points 164 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:26.879 and then it comes back, and to me, that's the average people like 165 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.200 you and I selling and then the folks like Black Rock and Van God or 166 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.919 excuse me, Vanguard buying it up. I do think I don't like to 167 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.600 be a fear you know, constant fear guy, because I still live my 168 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.039 life. I don't live in fear. But I'm also a realist and I 169 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.240 do think that we're going to have some type of credit event as soon as 170 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.480 this fall. So I do tell people, especially in the Fact Hunner at 171 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.440 the end of every podcast, if you stay ready, you'll be ready. 172 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.200 Don't wait for an event to happen to start preparing, because by then it's 173 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.440 too late. So you know, we talk about that you watched your father 174 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.799 and your sister just kind of continue on. They didn't alter their life too 175 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:09.399 much. Did you You know when you started that rabbit hole? Did you 176 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.159 have you or have you? I should say, come upon the whole germ 177 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.919 theory versus terrain theory type of rabbit hole. No, and I haven't gone 178 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.559 down that rabbit hole yet, but that might be one of the next ones. 179 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:26.679 I kind of go down as I hear you mention it more often, 180 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.840 but kind of like what I said in my email, like, to me, 181 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:35.559 the major one is is flatterth And before we dive into that, you 182 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.600 know, just to kind of give you a little bit more of my history 183 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.960 of the twenty twenty because as long as I'm telling that story, so as 184 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.159 that spring rolled around, you know, my wife and I are like, 185 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.799 well, these other masks are just ridiculous, So it clearly doesn't mean anything. 186 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.639 I remember us going down to Florida because we have family in Florida. 187 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.559 So over that Memorial Day weekend, we went down to Florida and it was 188 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.600 just a dream come true. We're like, oh my gosh, it's a 189 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.399 different place down here. It's in it's the opposite of Minnesota. And we 190 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:09.159 were reading in the news that the mayors of the mayors and the governors of 191 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.320 Minneapolis and Saint Paul and Minnesota, we're going to have heavier lockdowns, you 192 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.399 know, coming out of that Memorial Day and more mask mandates. So I 193 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.960 remember telling telling everybody that like, I was gonna go back and I was 194 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:24.639 going to be the rebel. I was gonna. I'm like, there's no 195 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.279 I'm not even gonna wear a mask. I'm just gonna I'm just not gonna 196 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.240 do it. And lo and behold, that very same weekend is when George 197 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.960 Floyd happened. So then obviously my tone on being obstinate towards the police was 198 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.759 not going to happen, you know, And because the last thing I was 199 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.159 gonna do is harassed police, and the last thing I was gonna do is 200 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.200 be obstinate. So so, you know, I complied because it was a 201 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:54.879 whole different environment then, and once the George Floyd thing happened, Minneapolis was 202 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.600 nuts. It was crazy, it was unsafe, it was everything that you 203 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.159 can just dribe everything on the news. Nothing was exaggerated. You we live 204 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.960 in a pretty safe suburbs, but it was it was scary, and you 205 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:15.120 know, without delving into too many personal details, but we made we prepared, 206 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:16.840 you know, and one of the things was to go downtown. I 207 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:24.639 bought one of those retractable police batons, so I pepper spraining a police baton 208 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:26.200 that I would carry on me at all times, just because I just I 209 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:30.000 didn't know, you know, like you just you need to have something with 210 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:35.480 you. And again that summer, I remember, so this is a true 211 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.720 story. So there was a summer let's call it a Wednesday, and I'm 212 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.799 in the office doing work and you know, doing client emails. And finally, 213 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:48.600 at about noon one o'clock, I decided to check non client emails and 214 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.320 there was one from the building management that said that there was going to be 215 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.600 a George Floyd protest literally a block away from where I work, starting at 216 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.519 like two, and that was like I looked at my watch and that was 217 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:00.759 an hour and I'm like, oh my gosh, i gotta get out of 218 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.720 here. So immediately packed up my bag. So I'm in a polo shirt 219 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.399 shorts, you know. I grabbed my work bag and as soon as I 220 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.480 left my building and the door clicked behind me, I realized that I'm locked 221 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:15.480 out of the building. Like I'm out on the streets. I'm locked out 222 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.679 of the building. And I walked to my parking ramp building, pull on 223 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.679 the doors. There's a chain around the doors and it's locked. So I 224 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.639 go to another set of doors. They're locked. So I am out on 225 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:31.039 the streets, locked out of buildings, and I know this protest is going 226 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.519 to start literally a half a block away from me, you know, in 227 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.039 forty five minutes, and the crowd's already starting to gather and I'm just like, 228 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.240 what I mean, fear runs through you. And I finally called the 229 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.879 security guard of the building where my car is and they said, you got 230 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.440 to walk down the ramp. So I walked down the ramp, out of 231 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.240 my car, drove out of downtown, no problem. But still, when 232 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.840 your heart's racing one hundred miles an hour, it's it's a whole different place. 233 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.120 And again, growing up in Minnesota, I knew where. You know, 234 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.039 when you grew up in a town, you know where the safe places 235 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.080 are, you know where the non safe places are. You know where you 236 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:04.240 can go during the day, you know where you can't go during night, 237 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.360 all those types of things, and all that's just flipped upside down. There 238 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.759 is just whatever you thought was safe or not safe, it's just flipped upside 239 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:18.399 down't now and you have to treat everything as you have to. You have 240 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.000 to. You have your head on a swivel everywhere you go in Minnesota right 241 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.759 now, that's insane because growing up there's an author that I used to read 242 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.320 in the nineties and two thousands, John Sanford. He had the entire series 243 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:37.480 the Prey Novels, And you know, I always pictured Minnesota into the nine, 244 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.279 you know, growing I guess thirties and forties whatever, But I always 245 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:44.360 pictured Minnesota just to be this peaceful place where people went to fish. And 246 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:45.519 then when I saw what happened in twenty twenty, I was just like, 247 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.320 Wow, if this can happen in a place like Mani and Minneapolis, this 248 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:57.320 can happen anywhere. And again, twenty twenty had so many ups and downs, 249 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:03.559 and for you know, you were literally within a hundred feet of some 250 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.480 something that we were watching on the news at home. These events that'll live 251 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.480 in the history books forever. On the mary Letta Police Precinct get burned down, 252 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.160 we watched it live. It was it. It was crazy. That's 253 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.920 crazy, That is insane. One of the other things prior to that, 254 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:26.799 which just I didn't understand how people couldn't see the evil in is how the 255 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:33.680 government decided who was essential and who was not essential. Yeah, that's another. 256 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.920 So again it's it's kind of a punchline for me. Well, I 257 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:38.200 shouldn't say a punchline for me, it's a punchline. It's a joke. 258 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.839 I tell only because of how serious it is. I remember our governor getting 259 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:48.079 a haircut on his front lawn by his wife. And while everybody's laughing, 260 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.039 the media is laughing. I turned to my wife and I go, how 261 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:53.519 insulting. She goes, well, what do you mean? I go, 262 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:59.480 it's insulting. That's somebody's career. Somebody's career, Like, can you imagine. 263 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.400 So let's say your job was, you know, let's say I call 264 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.119 it the laptop class. Let's say your job was to work on a laptop 265 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.720 every day. Well what if the governor sat on the front lawn with the 266 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.000 laptop? He goes, look, I'm doing your job. Ha ha. 267 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.759 Yep. You know, it's just it's insulting. It doesn't matter what your 268 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:22.079 job is. And it made me. It did make me mad. Yeah, 269 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.799 and I still don't. There's a lot of people who don't understand how 270 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:30.039 big a chain of events that started the first and again we'll get to flatter 271 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.079 here in a second, but yeah, December twenty third, nineteen thirteen was 272 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.480 the first in a series of events that that is going to bring down the 273 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.359 downfall the country. That was the Federal Reserve. But what people haven't seen 274 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.279 over the last three years is how the middle class has been decimated, how 275 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.839 small business has been decimated, and people don't realize that small business used to 276 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.759 represent almost eighty percent of the country, and we're starting to see that flow. 277 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.160 I know, just for example, Colorado Springs, there was a report 278 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.000 in the Denver Post how almost forty percent of the small businesses in Colorado Springs 279 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:11.000 went out of business between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two. And now that 280 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.160 Yellow, you know, one of the largest transportation companies in the world, 281 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:22.200 has just declared bankruptcy. But what many people don't know is they were one 282 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.759 of the few places that would transport less than an entire truckload. Right. 283 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:32.079 Walmart ships by truckloads, Amazon ships by truckloads. But George, who had 284 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:36.319 a medical equipment store, I would ship a palette or two of something and 285 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:41.079 Yellow would transport that for me. And now that's gone, and thirty thousand 286 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.559 trucking jobs are gone, and people still think everything is you know, nothing 287 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:51.119 to see here. And twenty twenty was another one of these events that it's 288 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:56.039 scared people and once again people will give up a little of their liberty for 289 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.119 a little bit of security and they'll see in the end it's not going to 290 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.839 be worth it. So that's that's kind of a good transition, so I 291 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.400 should say that I am actually in the financial services industry. So I'm probably 292 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.519 not going to comment on any stock market stuff because I really don't want to 293 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:18.000 have to take this podcast and record and understand, report it to my regulatories 294 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:21.720 and have it filed away. So I'm gonna stay away from commenting on that. 295 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.079 But you're I think you're dead on about the whole eliminating of small businesses. 296 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.640 I also think it's about eliminating in the middle class. And I know 297 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:34.319 in my email I mentioned Okay, yeah, I was number four my bullet 298 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.519 points. It's just kind of some ideas about money and business and things like 299 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:42.960 that. I can't find the clip anymore. But back when Hillary and Trump 300 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.599 were running against each other, she made this comment that made me google it. 301 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:55.440 She said, we don't need any kulaks in America. And I'm like, 302 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:00.079 cool, what is a kulak? And I googled it and the cool 303 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.400 and I should probably google against so that I'm reading the proper definition. But 304 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.160 if I remember cluckily, it's it's a Russian term for a kind of let's 305 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.000 just call it, like a farmer who owns a big enough farm to be 306 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:18.599 able to hire staff. And when when Communist Russia was was kind of taking 307 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.279 off, they wanted to eliminate all the Kulaks. They did not want landowners 308 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:29.319 and laborers and so. But but I thought it very very strange that she 309 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.720 would mention that you got to eliminate the Kulaks in America, Like why is 310 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.839 she using a Russian term? Like it's just it was weird. And who 311 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.920 are the Kulaks in America? They're they're They're the plumbers, They're me, 312 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:47.119 they're you. They're the people who are kind of self employed, who can, 313 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:48.400 you know, maybe hire one or two people to help them out, 314 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.839 who run small businesses. They're the you know, there are the small business 315 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.200 that's being wiped out. So I do think there is something about big government 316 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:03.160 trying to wipe out the small businesses and the middle class. And you're right, 317 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.079 by the way, when you sent me that email, you can't find 318 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.920 that clip on YouTube anymore. I might I may have found it on bit 319 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.599 shoot or some other place, but I can't find where. I'll have to 320 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:17.319 go back and check. And you're right, I actually mentioned this recently. 321 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:22.039 I guess six weeks ago we touched on stalin the Greater good with a question 322 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:23.759 mark. And one of the things that came up was the COOLOCKX And these 323 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.799 were people, these were farmers who were their middle class. They were doing 324 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.319 well, and that's exactly what they want to get rid of. And you're 325 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.720 seeing. Man, last night, I did a podcast something I had no 326 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:38.799 idea of this. Uh. I think it's called alpha gal this syndrome that 327 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.400 that is the result of a tick bite and all these people, all of 328 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.359 a sudden are allergic to a red meat. And what has the World Economic 329 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:52.480 Forum been saying for the last three years? I know, I know, 330 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:57.480 insane. Just a coincidence though, right, yeah, so and kind of 331 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:03.240 like tying to to you know that koolaks and the middle class and stuff. 332 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.640 I remember one time or well, okay, so listening to your podcast, 333 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.720 one of the things that you've mentioned a few times is that you know, 334 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:14.359 the elites or whoever they are, is doing it for the money. And 335 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:15.759 and maybe you've said that it kind of in passing. But the first thing 336 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.920 that I wanted to like have a debate with you about as well, it's 337 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.160 not about the money, because the money is really just the grease in the 338 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.039 system. The money is to keep the system moving in their favor because it 339 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:29.039 really is ultimately about power, especially if you think about the Federal Reserve that 340 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.759 can just make money out of thin air. It While money is at the 341 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.440 root of it, the money is really more the grease in the engine that 342 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.640 makes things work. But that's really I don't think that's the end goal for 343 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:45.720 any of these things, right, And they have been slowly buying up And 344 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.680 you're right the Federal Reserve, for the first sixty years it was backed by 345 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:52.839 gold, so while they could purnt a lot, it still had to be 346 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.960 back by gold. But that all changed in the early seventies with Nixon when 347 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.640 they took it off the gold standard and became a full fledged fee currency. 348 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.240 And now you're right, money they can just print at their own will. 349 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:07.279 Now, is it eventually going to cause a hyper inflation event like we've seen 350 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.200 in so many other countries, Well, it's you know, again, we'll 351 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.240 stay away from the financial side of things, but that's something that we need 352 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.119 to really be careful of. And you're right, it's all about power. 353 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.079 That's it is a mechanism. Let's say it's a tool in their toolbox, 354 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.599 right, it's and the end game is power and compliance, and I think 355 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.519 they realized that. I think they were shocked, to be honest with you, 356 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.519 Joe, I think they were shocked at how quickly we bent our knee 357 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.599 and complied at something that you can't even see with the human eye. If 358 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:42.039 you think about how powerful that is, that they controlled us with something that 359 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:47.400 you can't even see with the naked eye. I couldn't believe it when we 360 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:51.000 had to cent our employees home. I remember telling my business partners, I 361 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.519 go, yeah, I give us a couple of weeks. There's no way 362 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.359 Americans are going to put up with this, and I am just shocked. 363 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.440 I still people still see people driving around in their car with me asks on, 364 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.920 and I just I like, wow, it is It's it's pretty crazy 365 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.640 how everybody kind of, like I said, a lot of people are like 366 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.920 you know, you mentioned it was they overplay their hand, but they may 367 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:17.960 have only overplayed their hand just to flush out people like us. Agreed, 368 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.359 But if you don't mind, I kind of want to go in in order 369 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.440 with the things you wrote, because it's a great The way you you knocked 370 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.119 everything out is when you sent the email a couple of months ago, you 371 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:32.319 said you weren't sold on flat Earth. Yet in terms of percentage, is 372 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.640 zero that you think we're on a ball spinning or one hundred where you know 373 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:41.640 it's geocentric Earth. Where are you today? Well, it's hard, it's 374 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.480 hard to say, but somewhere in the middle. Let's just say I'm very 375 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:51.039 open to it. I'm not I don't shut it down. And so if 376 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.960 we want to talk about the flat earth type stuff, which obviously is your 377 00:25:52.960 --> 00:26:00.000 podcast, so it makes sense. I think the best way to prove flat 378 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:06.279 Earth Earth, or prove that we're not on a ball is with science. 379 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.920 And it's a little bit like letting the snake eat its own tail, where 380 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:18.160 I know a lot of your guests have talked about referencing the Bible and things 381 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.240 of a religious nature to kind of prove flat Earth. I would argue you 382 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.720 got to go in the other direction because if there's a whole group of people 383 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.480 that aren't believing the Bible anyway, they're not going to take the Bible as 384 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.920 their truth then so then you have to take what they believe is truth and 385 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.359 use the mirror back at them, if that makes any sense. Yeah, 386 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.039 And here's my thing. If they would just let us go to Antarctica. 387 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:41.000 We could prove it for ourselves. That's that's my big thing. Just let 388 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.720 us go and if we walk all the way across and we come out the 389 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.400 other side, then I will come here and I would say, ladies and 390 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:48.960 gentlemen, it's been a pleasure being the most of the flat Earth files. 391 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.119 But we live on a ball. Everybody, have a great day, and 392 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.400 make sure you stay tuned for the fact on her and we'll wrap things up. 393 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:00.839 But I think they intentionally do these things because because of the lie, 394 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:07.640 and I think this is another control mechanism. I think if we're on a 395 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.119 ball spinning her linked through space, they can continue to use asteroids as fear 396 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.599 porn, like nukes as as fear and control, just like they did with 397 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.519 that tiny invisible thing, you know, that little COVID bug that you see 398 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.480 with little things sticking out that everybody. They were able to shut down churches 399 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.599 over it. I mean, it's just incredible. So I think it's a 400 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.200 control mechanism. I do believe that heliocentrism is a form of control. Yep. 401 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.839 And so for me, it's a flat Earth. It resides on using 402 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.279 science. It's seeing too far, it's you know, things of those. 403 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.400 Those are the things that we need to underline and highlights and and keep flushing 404 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.319 out, you know. And if you grab a globe and a string and 405 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.559 you know, you go Minnesota to Germany and you tighten the string, yep, 406 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.799 it goes up over Greenland. So the flight path on northern hemisphere kind 407 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.960 of makes sense for me a little bit. But flight paths in the southern 408 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.359 hemisphere, that's so it's Antarctica flight paths in the southern hemisphere. Those are 409 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:12.599 two huge things that I'd love I'd love to know the answer for percent. 410 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.039 You mentioned talking about what resonates with the borderline folks. I guess folks like 411 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.960 yourself that are on the border. Is that what you're mentioning about. Yeah, 412 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.359 exactly, And so I would go back to that's the science stuff, 413 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:32.359 Like if if science can prove the Earth is flat, then it's then that's 414 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.640 that's the first domino, you know, it's the one that that kind of 415 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.680 will set off everything else. Yeah, but you know what, what's the 416 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:44.000 disparaging thing? Like I have physically seen people do laser tests that prove it, 417 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.759 and people will still come and say, yeah, but this and that. 418 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:49.480 The other thing I think at the end of the day, there are 419 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.759 some people that will be skeptical. I think just because of the programming that 420 00:28:53.920 --> 00:29:02.440 is done between the public education system and the way they have made people to 421 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.880 accept flat earthers as just, for lack of a better word, they're nut 422 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.799 jobs, right, Remember how how you know Obamas like these crazy flat earthers. 423 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.599 Everybody's like, yeah, how about them? So that the way the 424 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.200 system has made us. Look, I think there are people even if you 425 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.839 put it in their face, they're gonna not wholly accept it. I think 426 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.400 that's something that we got to figure out a way to overcome. And you 427 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.000 know, fair point, But I would say the more that you can have 428 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.759 simple so what i'd call simple things that regular people can prove, whether it's 429 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.440 you can see too far, and if there was a way, so going 430 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.519 back to your business card idea, if you can leave little business card nuggets 431 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.160 around or links or something like that, and if there was the laser test 432 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.960 like on a video where people have did it, you know, like something 433 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.680 we're just enough to make somebody go huh, well that's weird, you know. 434 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:59.319 Also the bridge, was it the bridge in England where they did the 435 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.319 flags? I think you describe that one in one of your early podcasts, 436 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.799 The Wealth Bone fascinating. Yeah, so you know, little things like that. 437 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:14.319 So again, I think the scene too far without a curve is huge, 438 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.559 and you know there's other ones like that. But I think it's again, 439 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.960 if you're going to if if if the mass public thinks that religious is 440 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.240 religion religion and the Bible is a bunch of parables, then there's no way 441 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.440 they're going to take what the Bible says as to be true. You know, 442 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.279 they're going to take it as more of more parables as opposed to fact. 443 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.720 So then so then the again, the snake's got to eat itself. 444 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.680 Scientism needs to eat itself in order to prove that it's wrong. Well said. 445 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.759 And by the way, I'm glad you mentioned that the meeting I had 446 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.799 before you and I came on was about the website and we are hoping to 447 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.839 get them implemented in the very near future where people can just go to the 448 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.960 website and print them off on their own as well or order them and have 449 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.519 them delivered straight to the house. So it's something that is slowly coming to 450 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.880 fruition. I'm not the most tech heavy guy, so I got some folks 451 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:11.279 helping me with how cure codes work and everything else. So the things that 452 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.960 you're talking about that we need to do to get closer to, you know, 453 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:18.319 getting people to see these things for their own eyes is coming closer and 454 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.359 closer. So thanks for that. Now you mentioned why why why is flatter 455 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:29.440 the most important conspiracy theory? Well, and let me just take one step 456 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.480 backwards real quick to share my journey. You know, watching and I'll admit 457 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.599 Ancient Aliens was was something that that I watched all the time. I would 458 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.160 say maybe ten years ago, fifteen years ago. You know, I enjoyed 459 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.039 it. And one of the things that Ancient Aliens broke down for me was 460 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:53.359 the barrier that the Bible and religious texts and things were not just stories, 461 00:31:53.400 --> 00:32:00.000 that they were actually recordings of history. Because it's and I know it's ancient 462 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.519 Aliens about Aliens, but you know when they talked about people coming down from 463 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.240 the sky or something like that, they weren't just using that as a parable 464 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.839 or stories to tell somebody. They were writing down facts. So I was 465 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:16.200 already kind of open to those things being true, so that when flat Earth 466 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.759 came around, it was a small hurdle for me to then accept religious texts 467 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.200 as more fact. Yeah, and I get you know, I had no 468 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.759 many, no idea. So many people watch that program. It's interesting. 469 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.400 I probably thirty percent of the people who've been on the program mentioned that ancient 470 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.680 aliens you know that TV show? I guess it was. It's huge. 471 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.000 And again when I think that's one of the things that people have to deal 472 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:46.839 with, Well, if we're on a flat earth covered by a dome, 473 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.519 then that changes. Again a lot of the people who were have fascinations with 474 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.880 or maybe have had you know, there's people who believe that they've had these 475 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:02.519 type of interactions with and who knows right, whether they're demons or you know, 476 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.720 maybe they think anyway. But it's it's very fascinating to me, to 477 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.720 make a long story short, that so many people have been affected one way 478 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.519 or another by this. I guess TV show. Was it on Discovery or 479 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.000 something? History Channel? Yeah? I think were History Channel or Discovery, 480 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.559 so one of the two. Yeah, that is so interesting and I think, 481 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:28.640 yeah, And what I think it broke down was again to reiterate it 482 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:37.200 when whether it's Greek mythology or Roman mythology or you know, biblical stories instead 483 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.160 of it just being mythology, it was they may have actually been telling new 484 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.839 events of what actually happened. So while in that context it was ancient Aliens, 485 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.039 I think what it does is it breaks down for the person watching it 486 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.720 that the historians of the world were actually writing down what they experienced happened, 487 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:02.480 not what just a story to tell, right exactly. And it's which go 488 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.200 ahead, No, I was just gonna say, which kind of changes your 489 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.480 perspective on it in order to then in the flat Earth journey, you know, 490 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.000 you need to kind of be open to that. You need to be 491 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.920 open that the Bible is telling you the truth, it's not actually telling you 492 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.159 a story exactly exactly. And along that line with NASA, it always found 493 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.840 that interesting that all their missions were entangled with Greek mythology Apollo, when now 494 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.280 Artemis, how they are related to Apollo. I don't think that is accidental, 495 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:37.320 how they label all their missions with Greek mythology, and how Rome has 496 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:43.800 such a grasp on the world as far as the political power side. Yeah, 497 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:45.840 So then kind of going back to what I was saying, so instead 498 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.199 of emphasizing religious texts to prove flat earth, if you can use science to 499 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.400 prove fat flat earth, then it proves the religious text, which then brings 500 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.199 in the Bible and religious texts into full scope. So to me, that 501 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.039 would be the order that I think would work for mass populations or the world. 502 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.280 Yeah, and I've gotten that message many times, people who've actually realized 503 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.480 where they've seen videos or for themselves, they can see too far, and 504 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.960 that proves I think that is one of the most powerful weapons we have. 505 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:23.880 And that's using their own calculations, right the hit inches per mouth squared. 506 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.719 And if we can see too far using their own calculations, and like you 507 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:36.920 said, destroying scientism with science, then people will realize that evolution and the 508 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:42.079 Big Bang theory and all the things that scientism developed, they'll see the holes 509 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:47.119 in those lies exactly. And then to ask answer your question why flat earth 510 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:52.360 is the most important, I would say, just flat out it. It 511 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.960 just it proves God exists. It just it's it's undeniable. That means there's 512 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:09.679 been a more ulti century conspiracy tricking the world on purpose that goes multi level, 513 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.719 multi generational, at a certain subset of of let's call it elitism or 514 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.559 something like that. So again, if you can prove flat earth. It 515 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:24.239 is just a It is the mother of all I'm going to say conspiracy theories, 516 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:29.639 but it's the mother of all conspiracy theories. Yeah, it really is. 517 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:36.800 And I don't know if people really can digest how many how many things 518 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.400 would fall, like we should all if you know, if we could get 519 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.400 everybody on board and we could prove it, the first thing, we should 520 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.039 all march down to Houston and get NASA on a repayment plan for all the 521 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:52.119 taxpayers number one, right, right, And you know, it's not even 522 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.440 about the money, it's about the control. It's about And again, like 523 00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.920 you know, I mentioned this my wife as well. I don't need to 524 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:01.960 believe flat Earth to believe in God. And I'm like, no, no, 525 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.599 you don't. But but but if if for the world it proves God, 526 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.559 it just changes so much. It's just everything else just falls aside. 527 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:15.360 It's almost like the matrix gets broken down and it makes all the other ones 528 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.960 really irrelevant, like whether they asked to fake the moon lighting or really went 529 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.320 to it actually doesn't even matter. Like if if we prove flat Earth, 530 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:29.440 all the other ones really just become non existent. Yep, And there's so 531 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.800 much that people and I always joke about how people pay for their own indoctrination. 532 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.960 You know, Hollywood and TV plays a big part of the indoctrination. 533 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.719 I remember being a young guy, being nine or ten years old watching Star 534 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.559 Wars in the movie theater in the seventies, and that puts your mind out 535 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.599 there that you're flying an X wing fighter throughout or space fighting evil. And 536 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.559 you know, we think it's school when we're young. But in a way, 537 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.920 we pay for her own indoctrination. Yeah we do. Yeah, I 538 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.960 totally get it. You and I are about the same aide, so we 539 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:06.480 probably had the same similar upbringing when it comes to pop culture. And let 540 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.239 me ask you this, how would I don't Well, I remember being I 541 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.920 think it was nineteen eighty six, like we had the television rolled into our 542 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.920 you know, our high school class, and we watched the Challenger go up 543 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.960 in flames. Is that something they did in your school as well? Yep. 544 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.320 We were in the hall, so we were everybody, all the kids 545 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.920 were in the halls watching the watching TV. Yep. That's so interesting. 546 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.280 Let's talk a little bit about if you want to expand on your journey to 547 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.599 flat Earth, but also something that people mention a lot on the program. 548 00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:38.639 Why is the name flat Earth so important? I think it's important because it 549 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:47.159 actually because that's what people are looking for. It's instead of deflecting against the 550 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.760 name, I say, you own it. You own it, and it's 551 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.719 one of those things. You got to be proud of it. You gotta 552 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.519 put it forward and eventually it will break down through the things. But to 553 00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.719 run from it because it has the stigma isn't going to help because all you're 554 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:07.960 gonna do is masquerade, so people can't well one for you, people can't 555 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:13.920 find you thene But also it's it's I have it, okay, So I'm 556 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.440 a financial advisor. And early on being a financial advisor, we would try 557 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.320 to come up with all kinds of crazy names so that we're not calling ourselves 558 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.599 financial advisors because people have a negative you know, if you if you're at 559 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.480 a party and you go, what do you do? I'm a financial advisor? 560 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:34.480 I gotta go. So early in my career, it's like you're trying 561 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.320 to find all these different names. Did not call yourself a financial but at 562 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.480 the end of the year, financial advisor and people understand what that means. 563 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:45.119 So to come up with a different name than flat earth is because you're not 564 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.519 what it's really saying is one hundred percent in your heart of hearts, you're 565 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.159 not one hundred percent with it out in the public. So you're trying to 566 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.039 find a different way to disguise it to make it sound better. But at 567 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:57.599 the end of the day, the public recognizes you at that, so you 568 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.559 just just it should be worn as a bad of honor as opposed to something 569 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.519 that needs to be changed. And also because our goal is to spread it 570 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.480 to other people, so it's like you can't change the name mid midstream. 571 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.000 I couldn't agree with you anymore. Number one, because people when they go 572 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.920 into search engine that will put geocentric Earth, they're a biblical cosmology they put 573 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.639 in flat earth. And number two, I think it goes what you just 574 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:28.519 mentioned goes back to beating scientism with science and beating the you know, Satan 575 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.639 with his own tools. If we own it, run with it and say 576 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.239 yep, I'm a flat earth, or without having to start and rebrand something 577 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.559 completely different. You know that everybody knows who a flat earth or what it 578 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.320 means, but nobody if you say, what do you think about geocentric Earth. 579 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.440 Most people don't have to stop in Google. I don't even know what 580 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.079 geocentric earth news, so, you know, and I've had many people say 581 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.920 that we need to get away from it, and I'm at the point also 582 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.159 i embrace it. And I have no problem telling people that we are on 583 00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.000 a flat earth. Of course, of course it's not perfectly flat mountains, 584 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.000 this and that and the other thing. But let's just take it. Just 585 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.360 like you know, the the FBI in nineteen sixty seven created the word conspiracy 586 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.599 theorist. If you want to call me a conspiracy theorist, I'm fine with 587 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.559 it because most people know that since March of twenty twenty, we're we're batting 588 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.639 nine hundred or so, right, we're eighty three out of eighty four, 589 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.360 and people who made fun of us prior to that or starting to say, 590 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:28.519 well, geez, you know, maybe maybe you're right about this. So 591 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.719 I'm down with that. I'm owning it, just like if you want to 592 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.920 call me a conspiracy theorist, that's fine as well. Let's beat them with 593 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:39.679 their own tools. I know you kind of talked about number three there about 594 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:46.280 twenty twenty and what went down there in Minnesota. What else did you mention 595 00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.639 about sharing the your ideas of money and business, et cetera. Yeah, 596 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.920 we talked a little bit, but that was kind of my my ideas that 597 00:41:55.000 --> 00:42:01.039 the middle class is going away. That you know, and I hate to 598 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:05.239 use the word they and the elites or whatever that is, but but you 599 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:10.920 know, they want a two class system, the elites and basically slaves or 600 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.199 serfs or a class that's one hundred percent dependent on the government. They do 601 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.679 not want self sufficient people in the middle. They do not want empowered people 602 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:24.639 in the middle. That's what has made America great since since it was started, 603 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.039 is that somebody without a high school education could become a millionaire in America 604 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.400 by just by buying real estate property and doing the right thing for thirty years 605 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.920 and they could have a real estate you know, empire and be self sufficient. 606 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.079 You know, you can't go to there's almost no other country you can 607 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:45.559 go to where you get and that is magical here. But whoever they is 608 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.239 the whether it's the World Economic Forum or the global elites or whatever, they 609 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.480 don't want us to have that power. They don't want a middle class, 610 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:58.079 they don't want self sufficiency, they don't want independence, they don't want independent 611 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.599 thinking. And yeah, so that's that's kind of my thought on that. 612 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:08.199 And every step that's happened is another step towards breeding. Whether it was originally 613 00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:13.000 you know, Walmart, and remember when Walmart was the evil one for going 614 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.480 in any small towns. Yeah, and and then you know there was Barnes 615 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.360 and Noble putting out little booksellers, and then Amazon was putting out the Barnes 616 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.440 and Nobles. I mean, it's just and every step of the way, 617 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.519 we're just moving more and more in that direction where everything is just owned by 618 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.280 one giant company. Yeah. I remember Downtown's used to be full of you 619 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.360 know, just mom and pop stores you can go and get you know food. 620 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.960 They had a little deli, and those are more far and far and 621 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.880 few between. And what people don't realize, who maybe who has never had 622 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.079 a business before, is especially in retail, this is more true in retail 623 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.480 than anything else. When you purchase from a distributor, you pay one price 624 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.559 for one to ten items, you pay a lesser price for eleven to twenty 625 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.880 items, and the more you buy, the less you pay. You go 626 00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.800 to Ali Baba and you'll you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. I can't 627 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.639 compete with Walmart as far as purchasing, Like when I was purchasing medical scrubs, 628 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.159 you know, I'd buy fifty or sixty sets a week. When Walmart, 629 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:13.199 because they have so many locations around the country, they could buy fifty 630 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.480 thousand sets a week, and they were able to sell the exact same thing 631 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:21.039 I sold in the mall, you know, a hundred yards away at a 632 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.360 third of the price. So people would literally come into my store, they 633 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:25.639 try on some scrubs, they take a picture of it, and then they'd 634 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.119 walk over to Walmart and buy it or order it from Amazon. Because once 635 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.760 again, I can't You can't compete with the purchase power of an Amazon or 636 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.599 a Walmart. And that is one of the other big reasons why mom and 637 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.599 pop stores are starting. You're seeing less and less of them. Yeah, 638 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.360 and so I you know, I'll break I'll break my rule and I'll delve 639 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.199 into kind of the financial world a little bit. You know, when the 640 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.519 index funds we're kind of invented thirty forty years ago, you know, it 641 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:57.519 was it was great because you could indust in quote unquote the index and and 642 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.880 then and that's where the black rock and vanguard and those types of things come 643 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.360 into play because they own the companies inside that index and they become the major 644 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:13.400 shareholder. Then that can decide on how the proxies are voted and what things 645 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.320 get put on the proxy statement for the company. So in this essence, 646 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:25.559 these large financial institutions control all the companies. And it started making me think, 647 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.840 and I thought about this a couple months ago. I'm like, I 648 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.800 wonder if I wonder if these index funds were actually created just to do that, 649 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.079 Like, instead of it being this great tool for investors to have low 650 00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.079 expense ratios and get access to a market, I wonder if it was purposely 651 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:47.679 generated in order to gobble up market share so that those companies can control how 652 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.760 they vote. Now, I will say in there, they have a fiduciary 653 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.280 obligation to vote and what's the best interest for the shareholders. So I do 654 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.079 want to put that in there, and they have an outside council that guides 655 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.719 them on that. But it is funny that the same handful of names pop 656 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.840 up as the number one shareholder for almost every company that you'll look, go 657 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.000 yeah, And I always go back to the fact where bud Light had their 658 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:15.920 little campaign with the Dylan person and everybody on the right. They said, 659 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.199 I'm not drink of bud Light, And it turns out that Madelo or something 660 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.920 like that turned out to be the beer they all went to. And both 661 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.159 beers are owned by the same company, the big the guy at the top 662 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.039 of the pyramid. So you think that you're you're damaging a brand, Well, 663 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.760 maybe you're damaging a brand, but the money that you divert is still 664 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.079 going to the same shareholder, and you're one hundred percent right. And the 665 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.639 thing that I worry about is this credit event that I do think and this 666 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:45.840 is just me talking here. I'm not talking on Joe's behalf, and this 667 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.000 is me talking thinking that I do think they are creating this credit event for 668 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.719 a reason to bring the digital currency. And there's a lot of people who 669 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.760 champion the digital currency. I am not that type of guy. I do 670 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.760 believe that is something that they will be able to use more command and control 671 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:10.039 with. I would agree, and that's going to be And this is coming 672 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.480 from somebody who got booted off PayPal and everything else a couple of days after 673 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.920 I did the episode on black Rock and Vanguard. So they're listening when people 674 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.840 tell people listen, you know, and you're absolutely right. And again this 675 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.800 delves into different type of conversation. But you know, if you if you 676 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.039 look at California, they have all incentive for every to buy electric cars, 677 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.679 but they have a fragile grid that keeps collapsing, so then then they're gonna 678 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.079 have brown out. See, we can't even charge a car. So I 679 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.960 mean, like I personally think it's a goal to get everybody on the grid 680 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.920 so they can control when and where you go. And every car's got a 681 00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.159 three hundred mile range, and that's only if you're if you're doing kind of 682 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.440 regular drive. If you're just gonna get on the freeway and go, you're 683 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.719 not going to get your three hundred miles, And then it's going to take 684 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.400 you overnight to charge. Even if you can charge, you might not have 685 00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.159 the permission to be able to charge. So there's gonna be a lot of 686 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.559 control about people movements stuff like that as we mons direction and if we're going 687 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.079 to digital currency, I'm not going to be able to fill up my truck 688 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:07.039 to go up to the lake, you know, because they're basically going to 689 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.239 say you've used your allocation of gas for the month. So you're done. 690 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.679 That's it. It's all. That's what it's all about. It's all about 691 00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:20.280 commanding control and going full circle back to flat Earth again. In my retrospects 692 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.719 of going through all the deep dives, no matter what it is, it 693 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:29.440 all comes back to control, and they have almost mastered every aspect of our 694 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.679 life. I don't think anything is organic anymore. I think everything happens for 695 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.719 a reason. It's to invoke certain emotions and certain reactions. I think they 696 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.039 know how we are going to react. I think that's part of what social 697 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.239 media was all about for the last twenty five years. Somebody posts something the 698 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.719 way you react to it. If you do a smile, it, thumbs 699 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.760 down, or a heart all these things I believe are kept in a I 700 00:48:53.800 --> 00:49:00.239 think we, all of us with through social media, helped develop AI through 701 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:06.880 our reactions to post, whether it be on Twitter or Facebook, I think 702 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.679 we helped create artificial intelligence ourselves. I totally agree. My wife and I 703 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.000 have conversations, and I don't have an example for you, but let's say 704 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.519 we'll have a conversation about something completely unrelated to anything that we're looking at on 705 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:24.400 our phone, and it might be I don't know, like different flowers we're 706 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:28.320 going to put in the front guard or something like that, And all of 707 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:34.880 a sudden, I'm being there's advertisements for like front yard landscaping on my feet. 708 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.719 It's it's shocking. I happened so often that that I'll show my wife 709 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.039 my phone should be like, oh my gosh, that's scary, you know 710 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:47.079 it just like it's it's always apparently it's always listening it is. I learned 711 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:51.760 that the hard way to talking about a baseball collection I had when I had 712 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.199 an Alexa out and when I went on Facebook shortly after that conversation, there 713 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.440 was these baseball collections on sale on my Facebook. That's why I'm like, 714 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.719 okay, it's a time to gather up all the Alexis and put in the 715 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:07.880 fireplace. That that was just crazy. So when it comes to flat Earth, 716 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:13.400 all I do is listen to your podcast on on the Apple podcast things, 717 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.639 so that that's that's all I've really done as far as flatter So but 718 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.239 flatter things now pop up everywhere electronically for me, and it pops up on 719 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.719 Face, Facebook, Twitter, It's all over the place for me. Now, 720 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.599 So there's there's big long tentacles on what you're doing. Yeah, it 721 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:37.320 certainly is. And that's going full circle again that this is why uh fahrenheit 722 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.920 four fifty one. And we've been buying physical copies of books like crazy because 723 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.880 the things that we were taught about and maybe some people say I had a 724 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:51.639 guest on the other day that was talking about the not the Mandela effect, 725 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.639 but where you think something happened one way and then it happened another. But 726 00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:00.000 it's it's greatly important because we do have a lot of tools at our disposed 727 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.400 right now, but we're not always going to have them. So we print 728 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.760 out recipes and all the things that we take advantage of where we stopped at 729 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:12.119 Google, Google something, we'll also print something just to have physical copies of. 730 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.679 Because we talk about being controlled with gas, how far we can go 731 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.400 once they go to the grid. You know, this whole green grid is 732 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.400 nothing more than, like you said, being able to control us. But 733 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:28.400 you may only have so much time available on the web, on the internet 734 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.440 as well. Can I tell a funny story about my dadad please? Yeah, 735 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:37.360 all right. So he was in his working career, he was very 736 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.760 good with computers and you know, he'd build his own computer, so he 737 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:44.159 was very texting every when it came to that stuff. And then it came 738 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:51.199 to the point where he'd built his own WiFi antenna for the house, not 739 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.840 an antenna, but like internally, so he kind of like built his own 740 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:57.719 router or whatever, and he would turn his WiFi on and off. So 741 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.000 like when I'd call him, I'd be like, what'd you get my email? 742 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:00.719 He's like, no, I haven't turned out on the WiFi yet. 743 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.320 And I used to like make fun of him, like what do you what 744 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.679 do you mean turn off the WiFi. He's like, well, I haven't 745 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.599 turned it off or turn it on, you know, And and I'm just 746 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.760 like, all right, Dad, just leave it on. It's just it's 747 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.320 like it's like utility. You don't turn it on and off. It's just 748 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.280 always on. And then you know, lo and behold. Three years later, 749 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:22.159 I'm like, yeah, there's there's some genius in there that is interesting. 750 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.480 And I've had many people tell me say, George, you need to 751 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.280 get rid of your your wireless internet and just hardwire everything. Some people say 752 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.239 it's because of the effects, some people say it's because of the security. 753 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.679 Maybe it's a combination of both. Yeah, no, I would agree. 754 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.199 Can we talk a little bit about it flatter Earth, Yeah, let's do 755 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.039 it. Okay. So one of the things I'm scared so one of the 756 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:46.800 things shouldn't say skeptical, but one of the things I have questions with so 757 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:52.599 and a lot of this stems with southern hemisphere. So if the sun circles 758 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:59.719 around the disk, that means in order to keep a twenty four hour day, 759 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.440 it's got to slow down during the winter times as it's it's no during 760 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.920 the summertimes when it's more in the northern hemisphere, and it's got to speed 761 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.599 up in the southern hemisphere. Correct. Well, you know somebody mentioned that 762 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.519 to me about a week ago. If you look at a clock or I'm 763 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.320 sorry, like a watch, isn't it going going around the clock at the 764 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:27.559 same speed sixty seconds per minute? Yeah, but the outer edge of the 765 00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.599 hand on a clock is actually spinning at a faster rate than the inner edge. 766 00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:35.719 Okay, So I don't know. So that's that's one of the things 767 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.360 that I haven't been able to resolve yet. And I'm not expecting an answer 768 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.159 from you, but it's it's one of those things. So I call it 769 00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:44.360 the sun circles. It's it's one of those things that still is a question 770 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:51.360 for me. And if the sun radiates the same amount of light, then 771 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:57.639 technically the Southern hemisphere should have a lot more darkness throughout the year, not 772 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:04.119 just in their winter time than the northern hemisphere, just because there's more surface 773 00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.519 area that it's got to cover and it can only you know, when the 774 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.760 sun shining, it's only covering the same one area. So so that's that's 775 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.039 one thing that sticks where I go. I'd love to have more information on 776 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.599 that. Yeah, And that is actually something that we're going to be bringing 777 00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.840 up to more, uh for David White. So I've had about three people 778 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:24.360 ask the same questions, and the Southern hemisphere is probably the most asked questions 779 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:31.159 when it comes to those type of things. And even with the the the 780 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:36.559 solar system. Yeah, and you know, we have many of the same 781 00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.800 questions with heliocentrism as well. If the if the sun is really ninety three 782 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:45.199 million miles away, why does it Why do the sun rays come through the 783 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.119 clouds like that? Why do I get more sunburn in just a difference of 784 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.760 a thousand or two thousand feet you know, if I go to Colorado Springs 785 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.800 or Albuquerque. I'm going to get a sunburn much quicker than I do, 786 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:02.320 say in Saint Louis or Mobile, Alabama. If it's truly ninety three million 787 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.360 miles away, I wouldn't think a couple of thousand feet would make a difference. 788 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.480 So I'm more on board with the flat earth side. But again, 789 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:15.079 once again, is there some things that we don't know of? Of course, 790 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.519 I've always said that we as humans are very curious in nature, and 791 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:24.400 I think sometimes, you know, we're kind of too cocky. We think 792 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.440 we need an answer for everything. I believe that God created the universe in 793 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.079 a way that we're not going to have the answers for everything until maybe we 794 00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:36.639 go into you know, we pass on, and maybe then we'll be able 795 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:42.719 to look down and see how everything truly works. I think the flat earth 796 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.800 model is pretty close, but there are still some you know, on both 797 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:50.519 models, there's still some questions on both sides, but I find so many 798 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:54.559 more holes. Specifically, my biggest you know, you want to talk about, 799 00:55:54.599 --> 00:56:00.800 the smoking gun for heliocentrism is just water sticking a ball. I never 800 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.000 bought it as a kid, but you know that wasn't in the top fifty 801 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.159 things in my importance. When you're growing up, when you're worried about girls 802 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:12.159 and sports and getting a job and all that thing, you know, these 803 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.559 things take a back seat. But you know that never made any sense to 804 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:21.400 me whatsoever. Yeah, no one, I can get that. And I 805 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.000 did download the David Weiss app. And so I'm very curious about all these 806 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.559 things, and I want to tackle them, you know, with myself, 807 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:29.920 you know, kind of one by one, and I want to use kind 808 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:34.519 of science to prove things or disprove things. And but seeing too far as 809 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.119 the one that that's the hook for me, that's the one that's like, 810 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.480 Okay, if that's true, then we have to reevaluate so many different things 811 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:47.039 about the heliocentrism model. What if my recent guests mentioned something, I think 812 00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:52.920 this is something we probably could do, because it just doesn't seem like we're 813 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.760 ever going to be able, at least in our lifetimes to get to Antarctica. 814 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.760 But he said, what if we went to South America, you know, 815 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.760 Chili, down the southern tip of Chili, and we were able to 816 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:08.519 get into a hot air balloon or something like that, something similar to what 817 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:14.440 Picard did back in the nineteen thirties and look for ourselves with a camera that 818 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.199 didn't have a fish eye lens for the masses to see. It would take 819 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.159 a lot of logistics and some things, but I think that is one of 820 00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:24.880 the few things that we could possibly do in order to of course, we'd 821 00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:28.320 have to have the right conditions, and there's so much involved in it, 822 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.559 but I think we do need to if we really want to disprove it, 823 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:37.480 we need to be bold and start doing these type of things if we really 824 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.760 want to change the hearts and minds of people, as they say, and 825 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.079 I agree, and I think the Southern hemisphere holds so many of the answers, 826 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:52.159 and obviously Antarctica in and of itself is the true answer. And what 827 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:53.639 you've mentioned in a bunch of your podcasts in the past is I mean, 828 00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:00.239 how do I how do I explain this? Okay, in NFL terms, 829 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:06.039 a coach will come on and tell you something, but they're telling you what 830 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.480 they want to tell you. The only way to know what how a coach 831 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:13.159 or a team really feels about a player is their actions. It comes to 832 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.119 like who they draft, who they trade, who they signed, so it's 833 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:20.559 their actions that speak louder than what they say. That's that's my fantasy football 834 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.760 analogy. Well, if you're watching governments and their actions, and the fact 835 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:27.159 that you know, again, the Germans in the middle of a world war 836 00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.800 wanted to get down to Antarctica, you know, and have a base there. 837 00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.119 And after World War Two, all of a sudden, all these people 838 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:36.920 who are supposed to be enemies with one another make a treaty with one other 839 00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.480 that they've held for eighty years. I mean, there's something too, that 840 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:45.840 there really is. And I say that all the time we are almost on 841 00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.679 the verge of a world war with Russia and China and both that those guys 842 00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:54.559 are on the agreements with the Antarctica treaty. And there's videos on YouTube out 843 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:58.440 of all places you can find of folks trying to get near what is it 844 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.960 the sixtieth degree parallel, and the navy ships roll up on them. They're 845 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.960 like, you just can't go down there. Yeah, so you know we 846 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:13.360 are. And I'll tell you what. If you look at the map between 847 00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:20.280 Australia and the southern tip of South America, I'm hard pressed to believe that 848 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:25.119 there's not land mass out there somewhere, right. I do believe some people 849 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.119 talk about maybe there's land beyond the ice walls, and maybe there is, 850 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:36.599 but I believe that there's probably even a smaller continent that's out there that they 851 00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:42.360 hide from us. Go ahead, I don't. I I was just gonna 852 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:45.639 say, there almost has to be especially well, especially if you're if you 853 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.239 do the flatter thing, there's just so much space. Yeah, it's huge, 854 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:52.400 but even on a globe, there's a ton of space out there. 855 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:59.000 And I don't I forget the flight that disappeared over the Indian Ocean and we 856 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:04.119 were looking for it's remnants for quite h three seventy Is that the one? 857 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:09.519 And again there's there's Again there's something too that in the globe theory, there's 858 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:13.840 no way that they would get lost. But on a flat earth, if 859 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:16.199 they're on, if they're out of position, they're they're kind of toast right, 860 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.159 that's right. And by the way, it goes even deeper than that. 861 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.679 They had some I forget the computer, some type of waffle chips, 862 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.519 and I'm really naive when it comes to that type of conversation, but there 863 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:36.039 were four or five patented chips that were cutting edge technology, and from some 864 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.679 of the things I've read, it also had to do with cloaking. And 865 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.679 there was a bunch of doctors on those flights, a lot of when I 866 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:47.719 mean doctors, I mean PhDs in the technological areas. Some folks from Austin, 867 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.719 one of the big technology They still on their website have a little memorial 868 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.679 thing for the people who were on the flight. So it goes very deep. 869 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.840 It just wasn't a flight that got lost. There was some cutting edge 870 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:05.519 technology that they were taken to a conference in Indonesia or wherever it was. 871 01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:12.000 And there's some very very esteemed people in some technology that had just been patented, 872 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:16.199 and it is quite the rabbit hole. Interesting. All right, I'm 873 01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.239 surprised you haven't asked me about the moon landing yet. Oh yeah, that's 874 01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:22.679 yeah. What are your thoughts on the moon landing? Well, okay, 875 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:27.599 so I don't have strong thoughts on it. To me, it probably is 876 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.360 not real. But the problem is now in this day and age, there's 877 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:36.119 no way for me to ascertain whether a picture is real or doctor because you 878 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.840 could google. If I want to find a clown face in the sand on 879 01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:40.920 the moon, there's going to be a picture of it out there. So 880 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:47.199 it's it's one of those things where it's been parodied so much that I can't 881 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:51.360 I can't figure it out one way or the other. And so but it's 882 01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.599 it doesn't make sense. I shouldn't say it doesn't make sense to me. 883 01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.440 Everything that's been presented to me from like the Fact Hunter and things like that. 884 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.360 I I don't believe that it happened. But it's one of those I 885 01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:05.199 don't have a strong feeling on or another. But I bring it up only 886 01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.559 because you've always asked your guests, you know, where do they fall at 887 01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:13.760 nine to eleven the moon landing? What's their pecking order on quote unquote conspiracy 888 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.400 theories where you know where where was the flat Earth and their journey and and 889 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.400 so that's why I wanted to bring that up. Yeah, for sure, 890 01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:23.519 And that was that's something important. It was, you know, I guess 891 01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:28.079 flat Earth was again during the COVID thing is when you kind of came into 892 01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.639 it. Correct, No is after that. In fact, it is literally 893 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:37.199 in twenty twenty three. It was something that you know, all of a 894 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.599 sudden, certain celebrities are talking about that they're flat earthers, and you're just 895 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:45.039 like, what's okay? All right? And when I heard it on your 896 01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:49.679 Fact Hunter podcast that you that you had a Flat Earth Files podcast, I'm 897 01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.039 like, all right, I'm just you know, I'm like, it's Fantasy 898 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:53.920 football seasons over, so I'm gonna flip over and I'm gonna listen. I'm 899 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:58.760 gonna I'm gonna start and i'm gonna I'm either gonna come away from it saying 900 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.079 it's crazy and it's it's nuts, or I'm gonna be sucked in and I'm 901 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:07.880 still listening to it. So that's amazing because most people, I think they 902 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:13.280 said, well, I guess maybe it's not because you had already started that 903 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:17.360 stairway of conspiracies. You've been down the rabbit hole. So maybe some things 904 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.000 prior, if you hadn't been in the conspiracy realm, you may have. 905 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:23.599 And if that was the first podcast you listened to on the Fact Hunter and 906 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:28.320 you heard me mentioned flat Earth, you may have even not going back to 907 01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.880 listen to the podcast again. But because you'd been down the rabbit hole and 908 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.599 you realized that many of the things that are presented in the world is a 909 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:40.079 lie, maybe you were more willing to just go down that rabbit hole and 910 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:43.519 where a lot of people do not. It's very it's still it can be 911 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.559 very divisive in the truth community. Yeah, And in twenty twenty, for 912 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:51.360 me, was not a year where I had a lot of time on my 913 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.559 hands to go down rabbit holes. I was. I was running a business. 914 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:59.239 We have, you know, there's three partners and there was maybe five 915 01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:03.440 employees at the time, so we were and I two kids in school. 916 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.280 They were doing home you know, all of a sudden, they we're doing 917 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:10.039 home school. It's like twenty twenty was a year where I didn't have free 918 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.480 time. I was very, very busy basically trying to keep the whole ship 919 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:17.039 together. And so to me, twenty wasn't a year where I went down 920 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.239 any rabbit holes. But you're right, i'd already. But twenty twenty years 921 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:27.199 the year where watching it play out in real time, the whole COVID and 922 01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:34.440 vaccine narrative, watching that playout was probably my awakening into this stuff that made 923 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:38.880 me open to it. And I'll probably say that my wife and I and 924 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:43.079 our kids are not vaccinated, and at never point did we ever even consider 925 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.559 vaccinating them, and we had tried to figure out alternative plans if we needed 926 01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:51.599 to change schools or anything like that. So, you know, that's amazing 927 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:56.719 to hear we did the same thing. I never thought I would be a 928 01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.119 home school teacher. Yeah, but but again I started. It was a 929 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.639 combination of both, I found out. It started with I'm not going to 930 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:08.559 give my family an experimental vaccine. But then I also started reading books like 931 01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:14.639 Eustace Mullins Murder by Vaccination. There's a really if you, like I said, 932 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.880 if you're going to go down the germ theory, it's good bye germ 933 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:23.400 theory, ending a century of medical fraud by doctor William Trebling or treating It's 934 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.920 it's a huge seller. It's believe it or not. It's still an Amazon 935 01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.360 by by by some way. But then I started realizing and looking at the 936 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.000 numbers, and again, folks, I'm not a doctor. I don't prescribed 937 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:41.280 to be. But when you look when Reagan took the vaccine companies off the 938 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:45.079 hook in nineteen eighty six, and then you saw the schedule just go crazy, 939 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.599 and that's really when autism took off. You know that that was just 940 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:54.480 my discernment and it was my decision. And yeah, I'm the same way 941 01:05:54.559 --> 01:06:00.639 it's just different priorities. But then I also realized, Joe, was why 942 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.559 do I continue to send my children off for other people to mold their minds? 943 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:09.360 Because everybody has a motive, even though it may not be intentional, 944 01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:13.840 right, everybody has their own way of life, their own thoughts on life. 945 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.000 And I'm like, why am I continuing to send my children to other 946 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:21.880 folks? I don't know their moral compass or you know, their personal preferences. 947 01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.199 And I took twenty twenty was just a huge change for me, and 948 01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:31.679 that's when I said, I'm just going to take my child's education and everything 949 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.639 and we're going to do it on our own. And I'm glad I did. 950 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.199 And it's a challenge. It's not easy with everything else that goes on. 951 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:45.880 But I do think sometimes we do outsource too many things maybe that we 952 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:47.960 shouldn't, and I think we all need to do a better job of that. 953 01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:54.440 But that's just my opinion. I don't disagree. And our kids are 954 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.119 at a Catholic school, so and we were kind of lucky that we chose 955 01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:04.559 that before twenty because once other parents found out that our school was going to 956 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:09.199 be back in person again, more than everybody was trying to get in, 957 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:13.440 right, yeah, exactly. There was a mad rush and and now there's 958 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.840 now there's a lot of kids at the school, and I feel, well, 959 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.719 I'm not gonna I'm not going to come in anymore after that. But 960 01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.679 it's still a great school. But when you have a lot more kids than 961 01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.159 you have teachers for it, it does put a challenge, oh absolutely, 962 01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.320 And that that is another issue. And now, you know, some of 963 01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.000 the school's down here in Delaware, like one to thirty three, one to 964 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.559 thirty four. You know, here it's one to one, And I know 965 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:38.480 exactly what's going in her mind for the most part. You know, I 966 01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.400 know we're running along in time. But one of the things I did want 967 01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:44.239 to stress on is kind of the Minnesota stuff. And I know pays do 968 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.000 you know one of the things I want to talk about, And this becomes 969 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:54.000 really personal. So I'm gonna go slow with it a little bit. But 970 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:59.280 I feel like, especially in Minnesota, like we lost friends. We lost 971 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:03.880 friends through the Trump stuff pre twenty twenty, and then we lost friends through 972 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:12.159 twenty twenty. And you know, I remember one friend, a couple friend 973 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.279 they would have gatherings in their backyard, you know, so that everybody gets 974 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:19.840 social distance, and we weren't invited to any of those, not one well, 975 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:24.960 and you know, so it's just when we find out them, we 976 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:29.079 find out about them through the grapevine, and and we know we're being isolated 977 01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.119 because we didn't get a vaccine. And it's just I know, these are 978 01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:34.720 those are small examples, but these are childhood friends that we've had our whole 979 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:40.920 lives. And it's just it's just different. It's just it's sad and it's 980 01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:45.840 real. I can't tell you how many emails I got over the last three 981 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:51.359 years that that mentioned stories exactly like that one. We lived them firsthand. 982 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.720 Uh, it was isolating, and it can you can kind of feel that 983 01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.439 way just being in the truth community. When you break the matrix and you 984 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.119 start living differently, and as I mentioned before, maybe some of the things 985 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:08.159 that were important to us before weren't very important and you do get kind of 986 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:13.439 left out of social events like that, and it can be hurtful, especially 987 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.399 when we live in a country where you know, freedom of speech is supposed 988 01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.319 to be at the very top of the food chain of the things that we 989 01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:21.680 champion, and then when it came down to it, you know, they 990 01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.399 didn't even want people to have physical autonomy. And if you don't have physical 991 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.039 autonomy, you have no hope at freedom. And I saw people in social 992 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.800 media, people I knew, were saying, Hey, maybe we need to 993 01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:38.880 activate the National Guard to vaccinate the people who don't want it, like that 994 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:44.279 literally saying that that we should we should activate the Delaware National Guards to go 995 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.840 to people's houses or set up like, you know, like a FEMA camp 996 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.960 kind of and you take them out there, you get them vaccinated. And 997 01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:57.920 I mean just you know or wellyan things, big brother, things that you 998 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:02.880 never thought that you would see in your lifetime. And I said on my 999 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.680 podcast last night on the Fact on her I said that next tuesday, I'm 1000 01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:11.840 going to do this huge podcast on COVID again. I try to do it 1001 01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.039 every six months, and I'm going to play audio from all of it. 1002 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:20.000 And when you hear the things that people said, and we can't. To 1003 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:26.039 me, as a father, as a husband, as someone who served the 1004 01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:30.880 country for twenty four years, I have seen previous generations. And I'm not 1005 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.880 trying to blame anybody. I'm just saying there's a reason we got to where 1006 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:40.880 we are today, and it's because so many people before us never held anyone 1007 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.079 accountable. And if we don't have accountability at the highest levels of government, 1008 01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:49.520 then we are setting our children and our grandchildren up for failure. So I 1009 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:55.359 will continue to shout the mantra of holding people accountable for what happened for the 1010 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.439 last few years, and I will continue to do so until I don't have 1011 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:05.520 any breath left to take amen. And that's personal for me, because you 1012 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:10.199 know, I don't want to turn this into into anything else, but it's 1013 01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.640 it's personal to me. And the love of my life lost her job, 1014 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.199 and she was the one who was there for people when their husbands and wives 1015 01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.520 couldn't be there as their loved ones passed. And then a year later she 1016 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.079 was not wanted because she didn't want to be part of an experimental vaccination. 1017 01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:28.479 So and I still hear a lot of people talk you just talked about Trump, 1018 01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:31.079 right, I still hear people saying, well, just wait till November 1019 01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.560 twenty twenty four. Really, really, we're just going to sit in our 1020 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.680 hands for the next eighteen months and forget about everything that happened before. Okay, 1021 01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:45.000 sure, if no wonder everything's broke, all right, I totally agree, 1022 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.760 And I don't know if your fact hunter has gone down the rabbit hole 1023 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:55.520 of Now this is just my all right. I shouldn't say it's my theory 1024 01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.920 because it's not a theory. It's just an idea that came into my head. 1025 01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:03.159 But is it possible that the COVID virus actually came from Ukraine? Because 1026 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:11.560 I didn't. I think there's a bunch of bio weapons labs in Ukraine and 1027 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.800 for some reason, now like your Putin's trying to vail, like why are 1028 01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.279 we throwing so much money at Ukraine? Now I'm going to get a bunch 1029 01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:21.039 of emails saying that I'm an Putin supporterist or somebody. That's not what I'm 1030 01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:26.720 trying to say. But it's just I'm trying to connect dots that maybe they 1031 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.319 are not connected, and maybe I'm not trying to connect them, but I'm 1032 01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:32.439 trying to look at a bigger picture. And my wife said this, dude, 1033 01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:36.880 what if we think about Okay, remember the whole debate whether it came 1034 01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:42.720 from a wet market or a bioweapons lab. Okay, So which is more 1035 01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:47.600 racist to say that a country and a culture got a virus from a wet 1036 01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:51.560 market? Because that's their culture, or they have an advanced bioweapons lab that 1037 01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.640 can build a thing. You know, it's it's kind of funny when you 1038 01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:57.359 think about that level, like, well, the wet market seems to be 1039 01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:01.920 more of a racist comment than having an danced biolab that could have a virus 1040 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:08.159 escape from it. But what if both of those are just the diversions that 1041 01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:12.520 it's actually from a completely different place altogether. Yeah, and that's very interesting 1042 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:16.880 because what they actually even came out and said was these bats that apparently flew 1043 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.319 these caves are like one hundred miles away from where these wet markets are. 1044 01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:27.439 So the story even gets more and more funny. But there's five theories. 1045 01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:31.239 One is, like you said, One is Ukraine that it's acknowledged there's biolabs 1046 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:36.119 there. The second was University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and doctor Barrick, 1047 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.000 I think his name is Ralph Barrick BA or C. Some people believe 1048 01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:48.079 Fort Dietrich, Maryland, and I did some research very interesting the summer prior 1049 01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:54.119 to so it would have been August September October of twenty nineteen. You can 1050 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.199 look on the news to this day. I put a little video together called 1051 01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:02.359 COVID origins, and there was a massive illness all around Fort Dietrich in these 1052 01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:06.800 retirement communities in July. Even the news clip that the lady says the flu 1053 01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:14.560 in July more in a moment. And that was also the summer where the 1054 01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:18.720 great vaping illness happened, when everybody was They said people were getting these illnesses 1055 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:25.880 from vaping illnesses, and if you googled what the symptoms were, it was 1056 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.279 fever. It was everything that was basically people were getting sick from COVID and 1057 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:33.600 they were blaming it on that. So I for a long time I thought 1058 01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:40.399 it was Fort Dietrich and then Wuhan of course right. But the other one 1059 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:44.880 was was the really a virus at all? That that's another one that's out 1060 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.239 there as well. Now. I have talked to people, including the guy 1061 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.399 who won't speak free radio. He got very sick and he said it's something 1062 01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:58.000 like he never had before. He almost died from it, and he said 1063 01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.880 he had had the flu and illnesses before, but it was something not like 1064 01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.439 anything he had felt before. So I don't want to be just to say, 1065 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:09.000 oh, it's nothing out there, because to all the people who did 1066 01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:11.159 get sick. That might be a little slap in the face, but at 1067 01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:14.840 the same time, I wouldn't put anything past these monsters. So that's kind 1068 01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.319 of the five theories that are out there, but Ukraine is certainly one of 1069 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:21.199 them. It's I mean, we're throwing like hundreds of million dollars every single 1070 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:25.680 week for the last year and a half there, and we're paying for their 1071 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:31.239 pensions not too Yeah, I still I can't process when I hear things like 1072 01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:36.439 that that people aren't just up in arms. And it's both sides, which 1073 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:41.439 which means there is heavy money laundering going through Ukraine for the last twenty years, 1074 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:44.720 and there's both sides are afraid of what's actually going to come out. 1075 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.239 Oh, if you even google what was the most corrupt country in twenty fifteen 1076 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.399 in Europe, Ukraine will be at the top of the list every time. 1077 01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:57.439 So I'm gonna make a confession. Is it the first time I'm gonna say 1078 01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:04.479 it publicly? Writer? Around December fifth of twenty twenty one, my son 1079 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:11.720 got COVID and you know, he's ten, and we had to quarantine him 1080 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.760 for ten to fourteen days whatever the quarantine period was at that time, And 1081 01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:17.720 of course Christmas is coming up, and we got school and it was running 1082 01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.359 around. I remember it going around the school, and so my wife and 1083 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:25.600 I are like, okay. So usually when one of our kids gets it 1084 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:30.640 means the second kid's gonna get sick probably three, four or five days later, 1085 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:32.720 and then that person, that kid's gonna up to quarantine, you know, 1086 01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:34.199 and they're not gonna be able to be part of, you know, 1087 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:36.760 the Christmas programs and stuff like that. So we're like, okay, and 1088 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:40.680 then one of us is going to get it, like we're watching the Domino 1089 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:45.159 effect. So what we did, as I told my son, I go, 1090 01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.239 you breathe in as deeply as you can, and then breathe slowly out 1091 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:53.840 your nose. And as he breathes, as he excelled slowly out his nose, 1092 01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:59.000 I inhaled through my nose. We were nose to nose and we did 1093 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.960 that as a fing, and uh, all four of us went down. 1094 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:05.359 So I did get it. And you know, we went down like Domino's 1095 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.880 one day right after the other. No, it's very possible they were all 1096 01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:12.119 we were all going to get it anyway. So I don't know if our 1097 01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:15.600 actions actually did that or not. I bet I remember one night being pretty 1098 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:17.079 sick and I turned to my wife and I go, if this is how 1099 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.680 I die, it could be the stupiest way anybody ever died. She's personal 1100 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:23.760 all laughter, She's like, noted, all right, But we were both 1101 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.159 fine. We were all the family was fine. We were ready, you 1102 01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.279 know, before Christmas came. We quarantined, you know, we followed all 1103 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:30.880 the rules that were put out there so that we couldn't again. We didn't 1104 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.880 want to be accused of these people who didn't take the vaccine or whatever, 1105 01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.479 but then didn't break the rules either and kind of spread stuff around. We 1106 01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:39.840 wanted to, hey, if you if you put a rule out there, 1107 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.279 we're gonna follow it, even though we think it's ridiculous, because we don't 1108 01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.199 want you to point fingers at us in the other direction. And we were 1109 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.119 ready to go by Christmas, and we're all good. But it was it's 1110 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.760 kind of a funny story. We did it, and my wife said, 1111 01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.680 she goes, I can't believe we're doing this, and I go, hey, 1112 01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:57.439 if we're gonna talk the talk, we gotta walk the walk. She's 1113 01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:59.720 like, all right, let's do it. You know, you laugh. 1114 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:04.159 But I remember being a young boy and the neighbor two houses down got chicken 1115 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:08.760 pox and they had a chicken pox party. Yeah, they're like, great, 1116 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.800 now you have it. Now you have natural munity. You're good to 1117 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:15.920 go. That's that is kind of again, we've gotten away from this natural 1118 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:21.680 or you know, homeopathic or I forget the terminology, always confuse them, 1119 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:28.479 where we just you get it, your body overcomes it. But the new 1120 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:33.439 medicine is vaccinations, right, that that is the way. And even I 1121 01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:36.279 played an audio of Fauci in two thousand and eight when the H one N 1122 01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:41.000 one was the big thing that they were going to push. He was on 1123 01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:45.359 record of saying there's nothing more effective than natural immunity, actually catching it and 1124 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.479 get in overcoming it. That there's nothing more powerful than that. And then 1125 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:51.640 twelve years later, oh no, the most important thing is getting vaccinations. 1126 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:59.039 It's just funny to hear, you know, push these things. I have 1127 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.359 two more thoughts. These are these are kind of lessons of life that I 1128 01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:05.479 always bring up and my wife finds them funny. I want to call the 1129 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:13.199 money button. The money button is whether it's a celebrity or just well, 1130 01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:15.960 actually anybody. When you find your money button, your natural instinct is to 1131 01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.359 hit the money button as many times as possible without breaking it. And what 1132 01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:23.279 I mean by that is, you know, if you're a musician and you 1133 01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:26.119 have a certain you know, if you're a band, like let's call it, 1134 01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:28.239 like you two, they have a kind of a thing. They have 1135 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.399 a sound. You stick with your sound because your sound is the money button. 1136 01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:38.119 And once you find somebody's money button, whether it's Fauci or you know, 1137 01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:42.239 anybody, or myself or you like, you can kind of watch that. 1138 01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:45.800 Our behavior is to keep hitting that money button sometimes even when the facts 1139 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:49.479 present themselves that you probably shouldn't stop doing it. But the reason I say 1140 01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:56.199 that is because when somebody is getting success doing something, there's a they don't, 1141 01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:58.319 you know, like Faunci, he's not he doesn't want to lose the 1142 01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:01.399 limelight like that's his he is, he's there, he doesn't want to stop 1143 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:06.039 hitting the money button over and over and over again. Does that make sense? 1144 01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:11.920 It makes perfect sense, one hundred percent. Once you find your niche 1145 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.439 and then the money starts coming in, why change anything. And I'm sure 1146 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:21.359 he got tons of money from Fizer from pushing that. And the thing that 1147 01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:27.159 was surprising to me when they were starting to give burgers and marijuana and all 1148 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.239 these different things away if you get a vaccination. Some places we're giving one 1149 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.920 hundred dollars gift cards. And if you have something you know that is so 1150 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:40.159 powerful, that works so good, you don't need any gimmicks to give something 1151 01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:43.720 away. If it works that good, that that's when people should have really 1152 01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.319 seen the red flag. When you know the mayor of New York City sitting 1153 01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.520 there saying, oh, you get a free cheeseburger with fries and a coke 1154 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:53.840 if you get the vaccine. Just think about how you're saving your life and 1155 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:59.920 you're having a good meal, and just the fraud. And to me again, 1156 01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:04.920 the violation of the Nurveber code they violated. If you sit down and 1157 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:11.319 read the Nurnberg code they violated. And again we're just moving on with life. 1158 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.560 But hey, that's just me. And I feel like my BS meter 1159 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.960 is pretty good. And my BS meter was going on. It was through 1160 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:21.840 the roof so and then the second thing I wanted to talk about was and 1161 01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:25.640 this is kind of interesting, especially when you think about you know, politics, 1162 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:33.239 Ivory League celebrity, not celebrities, but Ivy League figures, important figures 1163 01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:39.800 you know, like Janet Yellen, Ben Bernanke think people like that. So 1164 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:45.560 this was presented to me by a book that I read, and the series 1165 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:49.399 of books is Jim Records. His first one was Currency Wars, I highly 1166 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:54.119 recommended for for anybody. In his series, he's got like four or five 1167 01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:59.239 books that talk about, you know, how currency works and money works and 1168 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:03.119 things like that. But let's use Janet, Janet Yellen and Ben Branaki as 1169 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:09.319 an example. These two people, unless they're in the same room together i 1170 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:15.359 Q wise and schooling wise, there is nobody smarter in the room than those 1171 01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:19.560 people, than that particular person, and they know it. So think about 1172 01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:26.359 somebody who's always been the smartest in their class, went to the most prestigious 1173 01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:32.079 schools, climbed to the highest ranks of their discipline, and now they're running 1174 01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:36.640 the FED or you know whatever agency they're running. So again, they're the 1175 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:43.520 smartest person in the room, highest credentials, accolades to the to the very 1176 01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:47.640 tip of the pyramid. There's no way, there's no way that they're ever 1177 01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:54.680 going to admit they're wrong. Ever. No, Yeah, and there's certainly 1178 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:59.079 no way they're ever going to let somebody like Trump prove them wrong. You're 1179 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:03.800 you're a thousand per sent right now. People in power will say, you 1180 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:09.600 know, well, if they ever want to make apologize for something that sai, 1181 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:14.840 we were wrong. Like when Bill Clinton apologized to the MK Ultra victims 1182 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.880 back in nineteen ninety five, he you know, he was apologizing for what 1183 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:25.000 went on way back in the nineteen fifties and sixties. So he was apologizing 1184 01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:28.159 on behalf of the monsters who were running things back then. But he could 1185 01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:30.560 sure that it wasn't going on today. And then you see people like Al 1186 01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:36.319 Roker glitch out on TV and anyway. But it's if they do apologize for 1187 01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:41.239 their mistakes, it's they'll they'll use it under the guise of we like, 1188 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:44.680 we all made the mistakes. But yeah, you'll never ever hear anybody like 1189 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.640 a Fauci or a Yelling or a Bernaki come out and say I was wrong. 1190 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:53.720 You've got a better chance of a unicorn shooting out of your oven at 1191 01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:57.920 dinner tonight. And and also, and you know, I use those two 1192 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.800 as examples, but it could be anybody, people's names that we don't even 1193 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.000 know. It could be anybody in that profession. But it's one of those 1194 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:10.239 things where like they believe they're right because it's it's almost like an athlete who's 1195 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:14.800 been the best athlete ever, and then they get like it can never be 1196 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.319 their faults because they've been the best at what they've done and everything has been 1197 01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:23.640 handled them on a silver platter, So how can it possibly you know, 1198 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.239 it's not even the realm of possibility that it could be them that's wrong. 1199 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.319 And also, especially when you think about that, I'm gonna pick on Ben 1200 01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:35.079 b Nanke and Janet yelling again in this instance, If all of that and 1201 01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:42.119 maybe even Fauci, if all of your studying and everything that you've done to 1202 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.840 get to the very tip of the iceberg or the tip at the top of 1203 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:51.000 the mountain of your discipline, if you've found a crack in it, what 1204 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:55.239 else would that invalid it? So it's almost like your brain can't even let 1205 01:24:55.279 --> 01:25:00.880 that happen because then it's going to create crevices and break the whole foundation that 1206 01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.600 that everything that you understand is even predicated on. And that goes as far 1207 01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:10.840 as the current events is. You'll never hear Fiser connect the dots. Most 1208 01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:15.760 most people can see what's going on and how they're trying to normalize the illness 1209 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:17.720 and young people with heart conditions. Today we all see it, but you 1210 01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:21.319 will never hear fiser because that'll be that'll be a crack on their product that 1211 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:27.119 they'll they'll stand on that hill to the day they die. Yeah. So 1212 01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.159 I just I want to bring that up because it's it's kind of interesting because 1213 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:33.760 my whether it's my dad, my father in law, my wife, you 1214 01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:38.319 know, different different people in my sphere. When they start saying, well, 1215 01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.239 you know someone, so whether you know Ben BRANANKI was saying this, 1216 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:44.079 I'm like, well, you know. At the same time, like they 1217 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:48.760 have to believe it. They really do, ironically, and this is verifiable. 1218 01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:57.760 Who's the Greenspan? So, throughout his tenure as the FED president, 1219 01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:03.399 talked about gold as being just a shiny rock that's worthless. However, his 1220 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:10.600 dissertation in grad school was about how gold had to be the central of any 1221 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.159 monetary policy, otherwise the monetary policy would collapse. So I think you can 1222 01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:23.359 find this on YouTube. Oh I forget, isn't the Tennessee Senator rand Paul. 1223 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.640 Rand Paul printed out his dissertation handed it to him one time when he 1224 01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.880 was under oath and said do you still you know, did you write this? 1225 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:31.520 He said, yes, I did, and he goes, do you 1226 01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:34.680 still believe it? He goes every word of it, But he would only 1227 01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:39.399 admit that after he was no longer the FED chairman. So it's almost like 1228 01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:42.399 when you're in the Fed chairman role, you have to play the role. 1229 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.960 Oh for sure. I mean your answer directly to the rothschilds, you will 1230 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.319 not go against the grain against anything to say. By the way, what 1231 01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:58.119 in the world was Janet Yellen doing in Ukraine? Yeah, I'm speechless of 1232 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:03.359 it. I know there's there's something so okay, so let's let's say add 1233 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:08.760 it's Antarctica, Southern Hemisphere, Ukraine. Those are the three mysteries that if 1234 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:11.880 we could just solve those three mysteries, we'll we'll, we'll, we'll have 1235 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.600 all the answers that we need. Yeah, for sure. And I guess 1236 01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:16.439 I have two more questions for you. One you kind of already answered, 1237 01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:19.079 but i'd still just kind of I like to close them out that way. 1238 01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:23.600 And you've been a tremendous guest, and you'd be a great guest for the 1239 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:27.439 fact on her as well, because I have a thousand more questions to ask 1240 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:31.079 you. But how has since you went down the flat earth the rabbit hole? 1241 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:38.479 Has that changed you at all? And if so, how it has? 1242 01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:45.560 I think I'm more at peace and I'll and again I'm not even sold 1243 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.279 on the flat earth, but it's one of those things where I do go 1244 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:51.800 back to proof of God or if if if not proof if that's the strongest 1245 01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:57.239 word. It's like I've always believed in God, but it's it's if it's 1246 01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:02.880 more likely than not that it's really real and your own personal salvation is within 1247 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:09.239 your control and there's nothing really to worry about. It really isn't. And 1248 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:16.000 side story from that, I got to witness my aunt and my mom's mom 1249 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:20.760 my grandmother passed away in the last five years or so, and they were 1250 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:27.279 both very religious, both very Catholic, and it is pretty amazing to watch 1251 01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:33.359 somebody who's so grounded in their faith, who's lived a long life except not 1252 01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:41.039 even accept but welcome moving to the next realm. There was no fear, 1253 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:45.640 there was no scared. It was just it was really an honor to watch 1254 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.279 that from a from a standpoint of somebody who lets let somebody who had their 1255 01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:55.439 st together, you know, and spiritually, and it was it was pretty 1256 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.399 moving to see that. And and so to tie that into the flat earth, 1257 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.079 it's like, well, I can have that. Now that that's something 1258 01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.720 I can have, I don't need to be an anxious person worried about all 1259 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:09.119 of these different things. I can just I can live in my world and 1260 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:13.479 have my relationship with God. And you know, I don't know, so 1261 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:16.359 I don't know if that answers your question or not. So it honestly does. 1262 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:18.840 And that was very powerful. You said it was your aunt and who 1263 01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:23.279 I'm sorry that you lost in the last five grandmother. Yeah, and I 1264 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.359 lost my father in twenty nineteen and he was the same way. And I 1265 01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:30.880 always said that during twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, that people were so 1266 01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:33.439 afraid to die that they completely forgot how to live. And I think if 1267 01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:39.119 more people were like you know, your aunt, my father, those type 1268 01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:43.279 of people who just lived. And you know, if you're truly a Christian 1269 01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:45.479 and you know what is on the other side, then we need to take 1270 01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:49.760 the things that they You know, we're all human and we all have fears. 1271 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:54.039 You know, we're not superman, got it right, But at the 1272 01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:59.159 same time, don't ever, just think about the our forefathers. You think 1273 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:02.159 about all the strug that they went through, the wars they fought to give 1274 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:06.239 us the freedom at least that we think we have today that are on paper, 1275 01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:11.640 and how they can take once again going full circle, how they can 1276 01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:16.640 you know, weaponize something and completely change the world in just a matter of 1277 01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:23.640 a few weeks. Really is what they did. Yeah, and I'll quote 1278 01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:28.840 the brave heart line. And my kids they can't stand anymore. They start 1279 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:30.920 tuning me out, or they don't tune me off, but they drowned me 1280 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:32.199 out. When I start doing I'm like, I go, sure, you 1281 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:35.520 can retreat now and live a long life, but on your deathbed, many 1282 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:40.560 many years from now, would you not give up every day in between now 1283 01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:43.960 and then to come back to have your freedom? You know? Whatever the 1284 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.119 line was. My kids are tired to hear me you say that, But 1285 01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.399 at some point you have to be strong and stand up for what we've believe 1286 01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.920 in a thousand percent. And before I ask you the last question, before 1287 01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:55.560 I forget, because it's right in front of me, I'll have the link 1288 01:30:55.600 --> 01:31:00.880 to this book Currency Wars The Making of the Next Global Crisis by Jane Records. 1289 01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:02.520 It was a national best seller, and it really if you want to 1290 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:08.840 learn about how Nixon imposed price controls and went off the gold standards. If 1291 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:11.159 you really want to find out how we got to where we are today, 1292 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:15.600 check out that book. It's available on audiobook, Kendall, paperback. It's 1293 01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:18.319 get it and read it. It's just a great book. But I'll ask 1294 01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:21.960 you the question that I try to close every podcast out with is how can 1295 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:26.920 we change the course of where we're going? You know, what can we 1296 01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:29.439 do? And you can tie it into flat earth as well if you'd like, 1297 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:31.840 But what changes can we make in our life? Wholesale changes to make 1298 01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:36.279 things better for our children and the most important thing to get to the truth 1299 01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:42.319 of all matters. Great question, and I'm probably not going to answer it 1300 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.520 directly because I wanted to mention this earlier in the in the in the podcast 1301 01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:51.800 when we were talking nobody wants to be told something. And if we go 1302 01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:58.880 around as quote unquote truths and we're telling other people that our truth, and 1303 01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:03.079 that implies that they're wrong, or we're awake and they're asleep, they're very 1304 01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:10.119 negative positive things associated with that, And you're always going to get somebody on 1305 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:14.600 the defensive if you approach it like that. But I try to do it 1306 01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:18.600 as if I can let the other person stumble into the facts on our own. 1307 01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:24.800 It's way more powerful than me telling them, because nobody wants to be 1308 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:28.960 told anything. And so the way I go about some of these things is 1309 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:32.479 by curious questions. And sometimes I'll call it playing dumb. It's not really 1310 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:36.439 playing dumb. But you can ask a question you already know the answer to 1311 01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:45.239 and you can let them go get the answer. That's that's the way to 1312 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:46.760 do it. Then that was really well said. Was there anything else that 1313 01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:50.239 you had that you wanted to mention before we closed? No, that was 1314 01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:54.840 it. I think we've covered all the stuff from my email. I enjoy 1315 01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:59.640 the podcast, I enjoy your guests. I'm excited for some more of the 1316 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:02.760 stuff that comes in with flat Earth, because I mean, I am fascinated 1317 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:09.039 and highly curious and highly open to everything about it. And tomorrow we will 1318 01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.319 have David Weisson and there'll be on audio and videos, so you'll get to 1319 01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:15.399 see a lot of those type of questions. And I will bring up about 1320 01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:18.000 the sun moving in the southern hemisphere, moving, needing to move faster. 1321 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.560 I added that to the list while we were talking, so I'll bring that 1322 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:26.239 up to him tomorrow as well for him to opine great things awesome. Well, 1323 01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:28.920 Joe, it's been an absolute pleasure. I want to thank you for 1324 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:31.960 the last ninety minutes. You've been a great guest and a lot of great 1325 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:38.199 insight, especially into what in our older years as we look back, two 1326 01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:40.920 or twenty twenty is going to be one of those years that we'll remember. 1327 01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:45.119 And I appreciate the insight that you delivered to both myself and my listeners and 1328 01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:49.640 ladies and gentlemen. Joe's email will be in the show description if you'd like 1329 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:55.079 to reach out if you had any questions for him and for myself. For 1330 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:59.319 Joe, thank you everybody for your continued support. Don't forget tomorrow night our 1331 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.000 episode David Weiss, and then we'll have another episode for you this Sunday for 1332 01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:05.920 Joe. I'm George. Everybody, have a great rest of your week. 1333 01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:09.319 God bless you and we will see you