1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:13,320 in the UK and around the world. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,320 the Paranormal UK Radio Network. Now tell me, my dear, what seems 4 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:23,719 to be bothering you? I don't know, doctor, I'm always so frightened, 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,600 frightened of what, Grace. I'm just afraid. You mustn't be afraid, 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:01:23,120 not of anything. You are listening to paranorl Dimensions, the Paranorl UK 7 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:40,400 Radio deph Hello and welcome to the show. It's almost Halloween on this particular 8 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:45,040 show. As a lady that I met at the Awakening Expert in Manchester a 9 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:49,319 couple of months back. Her name's Lorraine McCadam, and she has a book 10 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:53,959 out explaining all about the amazing things that have happened through her life and are 11 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,680 now pretty amazing. I must say. Anyway, I'm not going to waste 12 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:04,040 any more time talking. I'd like to introduce Lorraine McCadam to you. Hello, 13 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,879 Lorrain, Welcome to the show. Hi, it's nice to welcome you 14 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:09,960 to the show. So we've we've tried to get this off the off the 15 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,000 ground for a few weeks now, haven't we another, But I'm glad to 16 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:19,599 hear that you're feeling better now anyway, and thank you. Yeah, it 17 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,199 was nice to meet you. They're waking in the export always good. I 18 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,080 mean, i've not heard anything more about this year next year is yet? 19 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:29,120 Are you? No? No, I haven't. No. I think they 20 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,159 have a page on face but you can go to and yeah, see when 21 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:36,680 it's I think it's going to be earlier this time, is it. I've 22 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,719 not seen any sort of adverts for it or anything. No, I haven't 23 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,840 yet. But yeah, it's nice to meet you, know, I nic 24 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,879 to. I've got your book here in front of me. It's Phantoms in 25 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,479 the Night or ET's for the question mark, and it says my lifelong experience 26 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:57,879 of contact with the paranormal. It's pretty striking. The cover up with a 27 00:02:58,039 --> 00:03:01,759 UFO and it looks like you in the field watching this uf VO. Yeah. 28 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,960 Well, why I chose that was because it kind of reflects what actually 29 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:10,159 happened to me in two thousand and eight, so it kind of appealed to 30 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:15,719 me when I saw this. You know, my publisher sent me to a 31 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:17,960 website to choose a design and as soon as I saw that, I thought 32 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:22,199 that's the one I want. So, you know, it kind of resonated 33 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,479 with me. Yeah, this is a nice little cupbo. Actually, it's 34 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:30,759 like a mode car. Everyone that does has. I will put a photo 35 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,560 of it on the Paranormal Dimensions page actually for anyone who wants to see it 36 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:39,120 on Facebook days. And yeah, it's quite striking cover anyway. Ryan, 37 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,919 So how did it all start out. What was your sort of earliest recollections 38 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,240 of these contact with Was it aliens or or did you think it was something 39 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,680 else at the time. Well, at the time it was the sort of 40 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,080 late seventies, and I was only twelve years old when it all started for 41 00:03:57,159 --> 00:04:00,560 me, so I didn't really understand what was happening to me. I'll be 42 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:09,280 honest, I'd never seen a UFO at this point in my life. I 43 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:15,439 hadn't read anything about it. The only thing that I ever saw vaguely relating 44 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:23,920 to it in a bookshop was Eric Vonderichan's Chariots of the Gods. Actually, 45 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,800 yeah, yeah, my dad had it and then I read it. I 46 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:30,639 was a good reader for my age. I was always good at English. 47 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,560 It's no surprise I ended up teaching English, but there was nothing in there 48 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:41,079 about people being taken as such, you know, so there was nothing really 49 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,959 that would lead me to think about eties or abduction or anything like that. 50 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,759 It wasn't until years later that I realized what had happened to me really connected 51 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:57,759 up the dots when I found Whitley Striber's book Communion. So what I blamed 52 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,560 on at first. What would happen is so I would hear like a loud 53 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,480 buzzing how it would start, and then it would come nearer and nearer, 54 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:09,279 and it would seem to fill my whole body like this buzzing noise, and 55 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,399 I would be completely paralyzed from top to to I couldn't even open my mouth 56 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,480 to scream or anything. And then I would black out and it would be 57 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,879 pitch black nights, you know, be in my bed, and then I'd 58 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:25,680 come to and it would be bright daylight, and there would be this huge 59 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,759 gap of hours where I wouldn't have a clue what had happened to me. 60 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,959 And that happened to me at least once a week from being twelve till I 61 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,279 was sixteen, and I put that down. At the time, I would 62 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,240 beg them, you know, in my head, I would say, please, 63 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,360 don't do this, don't do this, but I didn't know it was 64 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:47,920 begging. And because I was a Christian, I decided that it was some 65 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,959 kind of demon attacker, that they're trying to take possession or something, you 66 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:56,839 know, because I was brought up as a Christian. So I told the 67 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,519 vicar and everything, and he said that they pray for me, but none 68 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,959 of it did any good. And I used to try and pray and sometimes 69 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:13,240 if I cried out, you know, to God, they would go away. 70 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:17,000 So that made me wonder in retrospect now with they have to respect that 71 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,480 I don't know, even wherever they're from, that they acknowledge that there is 72 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:27,279 a creator or a God. I don't know, but it was very frightening, 73 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,759 and I think all along they were trying to show me, actually, 74 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:38,720 no, we're not demons, because three significant things happened. One of them 75 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,160 was that. The first one was that one night it was summertime, I 76 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,519 was wearing like a thin blue night dress and they paralyzed me, but they 77 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,000 didn't they didn't let me black out, and I could feel them drawing on 78 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,759 the back of my night dress, and I said, in my mind want 79 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,319 to hear fore you're doing, but they didn't answer, and then to let 80 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:00,439 me out of the paralysis, and of course the immediately went to see what 81 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,319 they'd put on my night dress, and I took it off because it was 82 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,639 on the back and they'd drawn these like hieroglyphic like symbols on the back of 83 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:16,319 my night dress and they looked very much like the Egyptian hieroglyphics. Do you 84 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,079 know what I mean? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, And because I was 85 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:25,240 just a kid, it really frightened me this because it was like black crayon 86 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:29,399 to describe it. So I put it in the laundry because obviously my mom 87 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:31,879 did the laundry. I didn't do it for myself. And my mom blamed 88 00:07:31,879 --> 00:07:34,800 me and said I've done it, And then I copied them from a book 89 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:40,519 and she really blamed me for it and made me wash it myself with remember 90 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:46,560 the fairy soap that Imagine your mom wouldn't think immediately you've been sort of possessed 91 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,560 or think by aliens or you've done this. Yeah, she wouldn't. Yeah, 92 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,720 she wouldn't believe me at all. And I tried to tell her what 93 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:58,800 was happening to me with the buzzing and blacking out, and she just said, 94 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,439 oh, you're having nights. You know, you've got a very vivid 95 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,959 imagination. And sometimes I would hear them whispering before they would come and the 96 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:09,879 buzzing would start. I would hear like like they would consulting each other almost 97 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:13,399 and I would think, go away, demons, you know when things like 98 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,120 that, and I would say, in the name of Jesus Christ, just 99 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,040 leave, and things like that, and nothing seemed to do any good. 100 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:24,000 And then one night they put me back and it was daylight and I came 101 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:28,800 to in the garden and of course I was locked out and had to knock 102 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,439 on the door for my mum to let me back into the house. So 103 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:37,480 that really really frightened me. And she accused me of literally jumping out of 104 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,519 the window, going down the dwnpack to knock her up, and thinks, 105 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:45,559 I am on the warning just for attention. It's all in my book that. 106 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,279 But then another thing that really frightened me, that made me think, 107 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,840 what the hell is happening to me, is that I did have a very 108 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:56,720 vivid dream where I think I recalled some of the abduction from where a black 109 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:03,720 towl and I remember like floated out of bed, and they made their appearance 110 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,039 look like cats with big eyes, and they put me on this like, 111 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,039 for want of a better word, like a floating stretcher or something. And 112 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,039 then I went through the house wall and I remember looking at the brakes the 113 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,159 inside of the wall where there were spiders webs. I can remember it really 114 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:22,960 vividly. And then I seemed to float up to this cylindrical craft which was 115 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,840 like a very vivid blue light underneath it, like a circular, a big 116 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,919 circular blue light, like I was going up to the inside of the shape, 117 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,519 and then I seemed to black out. But after I had that dream, 118 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,360 you know, it really made me wonder, off, what what the 119 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:45,559 heck is going on? You know, I just didn't understand at all. 120 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,519 And then I got to sixteen, and I applied to my nurse training because 121 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:52,200 back then you didn't do a degree like you do now. You would go 122 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:58,600 to pre nursing college. And it seemed to stop altogether for some time after, 123 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:01,559 you know, and they seemed to leave me alone to just sort of 124 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,840 get on with my life. And this is how it's been. It kind 125 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,879 of stops and then starts up again, and I'll have intense periods of contact 126 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,080 and then they go again, they go away, So it's weird. There's 127 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,360 no rhyme or reason to it. You know. Did your parents ever sort 128 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,320 of understand what was happening? Well, I couldn't tell my dad because what 129 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,840 had happened was and people have asked me, do they think that on some 130 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:35,240 level I kind of instigated some kind of contact inadvertently because I was so traumatized 131 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:41,919 because what happened was I was really close to my father and unfortunately my father 132 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,320 and my mum weren't getting on very well at all. So my dad went 133 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,960 and had an affair, and he went off with this woman that he had 134 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,879 the affair with, and he went to live with her, and she soon 135 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,320 got pregnant with him. And after that, yeah, and after that, 136 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,320 he just didn't want to know me at all, and she didn't like him 137 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,000 to visit me, and it wouldn't give my money, any maintenance money for 138 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,399 me or anything. And this woman was very possessive of him. And it 139 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,559 really did traumatize me a lot because it had gone from being like I'd had 140 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:13,679 dislike loving dad, and then suddenly it was like he died, you know, 141 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,200 and it was horrible and I couldn't stop crying and things, so kind 142 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:26,080 of I wonder if that might have brought them to me in some way, 143 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,360 you know, because I was really heartbroken at the time. So people have 144 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:37,080 actually postulated that it might be because you've gone through this trauma, that that 145 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:43,360 something you trigger, something that then contacts makes you able to contact the paranormal. 146 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,200 I don't know whether you subscribe to that. I do, Yeah, 147 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,919 I think there's a lot of truth in it. And when you were relating 148 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,960 about the alien when I'm rising up through the building. I've heard that story 149 00:11:54,600 --> 00:12:00,559 via other people as well. Oh wow, Yeah. I like when people 150 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:05,320 say things like that because it gives me validation. This is why I came 151 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,519 out in the end with my story after I'd hid it for forty years. 152 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,120 I wish I hadn't ind it for so long, but I always felt like 153 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:20,039 if I came out because originally I don't teach in fee now you know, 154 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,240 further education, but I did teach in further education when I first qualified, 155 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,919 and I thought there's no way I can come out about this while I was 156 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,600 in further education because I was just frightened for my career. But now because 157 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,559 I work for myself, I don't care. You know, people are actually 158 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,799 very a lot more open minded to think now about this in the past. 159 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,480 I mean you've only got see other TV shows that all haven't you but it 160 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,840 goes chasing and goes hunting and aliens and everything. There's so many shows on 161 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,960 the TV now. Yeah, there's the Encounters. Is really good about the 162 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,039 I think it was broad Haven in Wales. There are a lot of sightings 163 00:12:56,159 --> 00:13:01,120 and they treated them with dignity. And I recently you know, you probably 164 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,279 saw the newspaper article and I took a risk really when he rang me because 165 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:11,919 he found my book in a book shop in Carlisle and realized I was local 166 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,000 and got in touch with me through the email at the back and he actually 167 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:18,440 said can I interview you? And I thought, is he just going to 168 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:22,080 ridicule me and say I'm some sort of nukcase. But then when it came 169 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,039 out it was a very fair article, you know, and he promised he 170 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,639 wouldn't and he didn't, you know, it was it was I felt like 171 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,600 he had an not minded approach, you know. I mean there are some 172 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:39,519 very fair journalists out there, and if it goes on the mainstream rediing they'll 173 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,759 giggle and laugh about it, but when you've only got to look at all 174 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,600 the stories now that are coming out from the Pentagon. Yeah, they're taking 175 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,480 UFO seriously and everything like that. It's you know, it's not a laughing 176 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:56,960 matter at all. You know, it's a very serious project. Yeah. 177 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,799 Well, I have had a quer if from a national paper. I won't 178 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,080 say who it is, and I'm tying with going with them or not, 179 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:05,320 because in one way it'd be good for my book, you know, for 180 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,480 getting it out there, but in another way, I'm frightened they'll just treat 181 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,879 me like a nutter. I don't know what to do, really, but 182 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:16,440 I have to think about it, I think. I mean, the thing 183 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:18,279 is, I mean, if if somebody interviews you and they stop playing around, 184 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,320 you just get walk away, don't you That's what I would do. 185 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Well, yeah, that's true. But what they tend to do the journalist 186 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:28,120 is a recording and then what this guy did, he said, I can't 187 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 let you see it even before it goes out. They seems to have a 188 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:37,679 rule where you can only read it afterwards. See what you mean you and 189 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,759 then yeah, and then you know you don't know what's coming had and how 190 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:46,320 they're putting it out before. Yeah, they twisted to suit theirround a gender 191 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,000 sort of thing. Yeah, so that's the last thing I want. Really, 192 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,320 you know, I'd rather not say anything. You know, they're going 193 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,159 to treat you like an idiot, so I don't know. I just have 194 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:03,159 to be careful, I suppose. So did you actually physically see aliens? 195 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,080 I mean, can you describe what they look like? Yes, well, 196 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,759 when I was a teenager, you know what I was just talking about, 197 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:16,399 I did see the what you call the classic gray aliens. Now, when 198 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,919 I had that vivid dream I was telling you about, they came across as 199 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:26,600 I think they're trying to disguise themselves as cats with big, big eyes, 200 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:33,840 but the count disguise the big eyes. And one time when they paralyzed me, 201 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:37,879 one of them was clutching my hand one night, and I could see 202 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,919 his long, thin fingers and that he only had free and that absolutely terrified 203 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,360 me. So I dug my fingers into his, and then when I woke 204 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,799 up, I'd got fingers duging. He dug his fingers back and they were 205 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:54,519 free, and it confirmed to me that what I'd seen was three long fingers, 206 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,960 and then when I turned around, I managed to break out of the 207 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:03,440 paralysis one night, and I just caught his face. And that's what made 208 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,279 me think there were demons, because it was very pale, sort of not 209 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,039 what it called gray. Actually, the Grays are not. Actually you're doing 210 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:15,360 a disservice saying the gray. I think the more of a pale kind of 211 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:22,240 almost like the color of your paints in your background of your picture, like 212 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:26,679 a dull brown color they are. And I saw the like dull brown colored 213 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,519 face, like leathery skin and these big huge eyes, you know, And 214 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,080 of course I thought it was a demon, because what would you think, 215 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:37,600 you know, because I've never connected it with eats at that point, so 216 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,039 I just assumed it was something horrible, you know. I mean, there's 217 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:48,480 a theory that the Grays are actually controlled by the Reptilian race, Is there? 218 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,919 Oh, because I've heard that they're just robots kind of. It could 219 00:16:52,919 --> 00:17:00,559 be control, biological control, is they could be robots, like you say, 220 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:03,079 yeah, there could be anything. I guess we don't really know, 221 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,119 do we. No, it's very difficult. I've heard that story through various 222 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,039 people that they controlled by the reptilians who actually control this world, and this 223 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 is why they're walls in such a state. It's all right mess, isn't 224 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,920 it. But but I struggle with that because I just think, well, 225 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,240 how are they managing to hide in plain sight? Then you know, well, 226 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,440 I think it's well in my theory and it's not. Really My theory 227 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:33,759 is other people's theories. Why I go along with you. A lot of 228 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:37,680 stuff is inter dimensional, and that's one of the reasons I call this show 229 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:44,599 paranorl dimensions because we're like in the three D dimension. Yeah, those reptilian 230 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,559 that's a reptilia race are actually in the four D and they're actually controlled in 231 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,720 what goes on. They're outside of our line line peripheral vision sort of thing, 232 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:57,680 and we only see a very small LightWave like bandwidth. Yes, that's 233 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:03,039 right, and there's a vast amount on either side of that bend with that 234 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,599 they exist in and they will exist at the same time we do. But 235 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,039 they thrive off of our fear, is what I understand it to be. 236 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,359 You know, I don't know if you can go along with that. Did 237 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,240 they did they make you fear them? Yes? I was very frightened, 238 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:26,200 and yet Conversely, I believe I've met Nordic eats and I feel a lot 239 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:32,880 more benevolent energy from them. You're a loving energy, caring energy, compassionate. 240 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,799 Yeah yeah, yeah, I've heard that as well. But I mean, 241 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:41,200 I don't know how many life forms of visiting this planet, or say 242 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,799 that this planet or this dimension, because I think there's a bit of both 243 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,960 going on. When you say a fourth dimension, do you mean another version 244 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,799 of Earth or you know what I mean. It's it's kind of like, 245 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,400 how can I describe it? Yeah, like you've got your TV channel in 246 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,000 front of you. Yeah, yeah, and you've got all your other channel 247 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,519 that are there, but you can't see You only see the one that you're 248 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,240 actually tuned into. Yeah, that's right. So they're all there at the 249 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,359 same time. When you tune into another one is when you get you know 250 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:15,880 that you're tuning into another part of the bandwidth type of thing that's that's that's 251 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,839 available to you, but there's another load of bandwidth either side. It's not 252 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,680 radio signals and things a lot in the radio. Yeah, yeah, I 253 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,400 understand. Yeah, they're all there, but you tune into it, you 254 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,680 don't see it. You know, This is what when you hear people say 255 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,400 about they see something out of the corner of their eye, Yeah, getting 256 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,000 a glimpse outside of that bandwidth, I think, because when they look for 257 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,160 the own it, it's gone, you know. Yeah, I actually believe 258 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,240 that they know a lot more about physics than we do. And I believe 259 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,359 so too do the Nordics, because from what I've experienced of the Griers and 260 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:57,720 the Nordics, they are both capable of similar kinds of fits of sick and 261 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:03,319 claw and becoming bull but still't be present within our free d reality both sets 262 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:10,279 of etis, and they can make themselves visible if they want to. And 263 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,319 I believe that they'll only like you take a photograph of them with permission, 264 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:19,720 because I've since been told telepathectally that I was allowed to take a photograph of 265 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:26,519 the NORDICAI actually managed to photograph in my bedroom. So and also I think 266 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,720 that they both have abilities to move in and out of dimensions and even create 267 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:38,359 pocket dimensions. Yeah, because they seem to be able to take you and 268 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,400 from a busy place, is what I'm saying. That's happened to me twice, 269 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,799 and yet nobody seems to see or notice anything but you know, something 270 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,400 funny has happened. You know, you've got missing time, and you wonder 271 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,400 how they managed to do that in a busy place. And the only thing 272 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 I can think of is that they take you into pocket dimension of some sort. 273 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,160 Hm. That's my theory, so I could go along with it. 274 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:07,680 I mean, I've heard several stories. I mean, you know, running 275 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,759 and Flip can Seller. Don't you a very similar experience about being taken out 276 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:17,039 to a cross through the roof and everything. Yeah, and it's kind of 277 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,720 very similar to your description. Really. Oh right, that's interesting. Yeah, 278 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,240 I am friends with them on Facebook. Yeah, they can seller brothers. 279 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,720 Yeah, they're nice. Yeah, the people on a planet always so 280 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,039 yeah, they do seem very nice. When I met them at the Expert 281 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:41,680 they were lovely. Yeah. So your experiences did they ever lead to things 282 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,200 like out of body experiences as well that you actually knew about, you know, 283 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:49,200 did you actually sort of try to develop anything like that. I've only 284 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:56,039 had involuntary out of body experiences. There was one time when I believe one 285 00:21:56,039 --> 00:22:00,599 of the order he Ties took me and he allowed me to remember what happened 286 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,160 and where we went, but I can't remember how we got there. It 287 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,759 was almost like we just teleported, and one's the best way of putting it. 288 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:11,000 And we went down this like really long white tunnel, and I could 289 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,799 see it was quite a big tunnel. I don't know where I was. 290 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,640 I'm wondering if we went down to some kind of underground city, because we 291 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:25,279 came out eventually and I could just see this like tall these tall white buildings, 292 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,160 and right in the foreground was a very tall white building. I got 293 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,640 the feeling it was a temple. And he was holding me quite firmly from 294 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,440 behind. I couldn't I wasn't allowed to turn around and see him, but 295 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:37,799 I could see his hands and there were you They look human, but they've 296 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:44,359 got very long, tapered fingers, and he then pulled me back. I 297 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,880 wanted to go further and look look more in more detail, because we're all 298 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,920 naturally curious, but he pulled me back down this like long tunnel, and 299 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,240 then I suddenly just jolted back into my body. If I wanted a better 300 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,079 way of putting it, so, I think they can initiate and be definitely 301 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,400 the Nordics, it seemed to be experts or be where they pull you out 302 00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:11,160 if they want to you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's 303 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,440 kind of where I was going with it. I think I just I just 304 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,519 wonder if you'd actually sort of developed anything and I actually knew about what you 305 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:22,799 would do what was happening. No, no, I haven't. I can't 306 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:26,079 honestly say that I can do it voluntarily. I have had some very vivid 307 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,880 dreams, but I think they've always been initiated by the ets rather than me. 308 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:34,599 I think we'll get those that we will have those those sorts of dreams 309 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,759 that are their dreams or are they something happening in a different reality. That's 310 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,799 that's something I always wonder. Well. The one I had in two thousand 311 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:48,119 and eight, to me, it was initiated by the Nordic guy, because 312 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:55,599 it's all in my book. But how that started was right at the beginning 313 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:59,720 of July two thousand and eight. I had this very vivid dream that I 314 00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:02,880 was in my own house and I went out and there was a like a 315 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,759 sort of cream tick tac shaped craft at the bottom of my front garden. 316 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:08,880 It's quite a big garden. And I went and it opened up in the 317 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,720 middle like a hatch, and he got out and he shook my hand and 318 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,519 he was very friendly in this dream. And I have a really really good 319 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,880 memory for faces, and I wonder if he knew this, because about two 320 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,880 days later we were coming back from the library, were taking the children to 321 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,519 the library. They run a little then, and part on our drive was 322 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:30,559 a black landlord that as we came in and my husband said, do the 323 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:36,200 extra cheeky people parking on our drive, you know, And I looked through 324 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,880 the window and I was shocked to see a blonde man and a blond woman, 325 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,119 and the man was the man that I dreamt about, shaking his hand. 326 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,839 Absolutely amazing. And it was shortly after that that I had several sightings 327 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,000 of different craft, three different sets of craft, and I had missing time 328 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,960 on the M six, So I believe that was probably some kind of Nordic 329 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,119 initiated contact thing. You know, they're right there, so wow. Yeah, 330 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:11,000 well I think we've all had missing some story. Yeah. I was 331 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:17,160 taken by well, it seemed like a large craft, but I honor the 332 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,440 scene being sat in my car and seeing the inside of it. It's like 333 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,759 a white wall, but the disguise did to look like a Laurie. That 334 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:30,200 was the thing. It's in my book and what should have taken me ten 335 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:37,000 minutes to get back took me an hour, and my husband was really desperately 336 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,079 worried about me. But I won't say too much because that chapters in my 337 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,480 boocket. People. Absolutely, you don't give two much away. Yeah, 338 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:52,119 yeah, how about I mean, you talk about these experiences. I'm always 339 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,400 quite interested in a lot of the reincarnation aspects a bit. Have you got 340 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:03,640 any sort of memories of previous lives? Yes, I have. I dreamed 341 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,559 that I was a blonde lady with blue eyes, and in this life I've 342 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:11,880 got hazel eyes and kind of reddish urban hair. When I was younger, 343 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,680 my hair was like a natural dark urban color because my mum is from Italian 344 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,200 people and my father's Celtic blonder, blue eyed, so I was kind of 345 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,799 a combination of the two. I think my dad had read her when he 346 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,799 was younger, like a strawberry blonde, you know what I mean. And 347 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,839 I believe that what I've been told, in fact, that I've lived past 348 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:41,480 lives not on this planet, that I was effectively I was a Pladian lady 349 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:48,559 from the Plads. That's interesting that before as well, Yeah, because I 350 00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:52,000 had a dream that I was in a house and it was all beautiful carved 351 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,319 wood in this house. And when I looked out the window, it's so 352 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,839 vivid. It was more like I was, really I really felt like I 353 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,839 was. It was all desert and there was this absolutely huge mountain in the 354 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,039 distance. You couldn't see the height of it. It was so big, 355 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,160 not like any mountain on Earth. It just was absolutely huge, and it 356 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,200 was all sandy colored. You know where I was, but I know I 357 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:25,599 wasn't on Earth. But I think I've also had earthly lives because I've dreamt 358 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,319 that I was in Tudor times and I went into my drapers buying cloth, 359 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,640 some wool cloth, and it was a really vivid dream. So I have 360 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,359 kind of regressed on my own, and then I've regressed back to Georgian times 361 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:42,799 and where I lived on a farm, and I remember thinking I don't want 362 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:48,480 to get up and help out. I didn't like getting up early. And 363 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,000 I think I was a girl and my mother was a bit of a nag 364 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,160 and she was crossing me because I wouldn't eat the ham that she'd put out. 365 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,960 And we're having this part and we're eating outside at a big long time 366 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,039 Mesel table, and she was shouting at me for not eating enough, which 367 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,200 is what your mum would do, isn't it. Really, it wasn't the 368 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,720 same. It wasn't the same math you've put in this love, was it. 369 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,119 No? No, definitely not. She was a big lady with blonde 370 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,039 hair, and she had a cap on, you know, like they used 371 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:22,119 to wear the maids caps. And when I look down at myself, I 372 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,319 was wearing a white apron and a very plain dress, and I had a 373 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:30,039 cap on. So I thought after when I thought about it, I thought 374 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,279 it must have been Georgian ei Us. It was like that kind of the 375 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,319 things they wore then, you know, So I believe I've had her f 376 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,319 lives, past her f lives, and definitely I feel I had been. 377 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:48,039 I had a very vivid dream that I was. I know it was Atlantis 378 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:53,839 because I heard people talking and saying, you know that the city of Atlantis 379 00:28:55,839 --> 00:29:00,200 was beautiful, and I remember looking around and seeing all these buildings, like 380 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,759 you know, like the Greek buildings with the columns, and I sat on 381 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,640 a wall and I could feel the sun on my head and everything. And 382 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:15,440 I was definitely a woman there, you know, because my hair was long 383 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,680 and pinned up. So that felt very strange. So I feel like I 384 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,799 had a past life there too, which could be significant. I don't know. 385 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,640 Yeah, I mean, do you regard yourself as being psychic or mediumship 386 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,240 capabilities? Yes, not so much mediumship capabilities, although I have heard my 387 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:44,400 mum has passed over and I have had her speak to me recently. Actually, 388 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,839 when we went on holiday, our cases were missing. This is true, 389 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,240 absolutely true, and she came to me in the dining room and she 390 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,480 says, don't worry. You're going to get all your own dresses back, 391 00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:59,200 and you're going to get some new ones as well. And I thought was 392 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,000 she's talking about because I was absolutely despairing that they must have got lost or 393 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,559 something. And then the next day, because my husband didn't know when they'd 394 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:10,880 turn up again, it took me to get some new dresses at a boutique 395 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,000 that we found. He said, just in case they don't turn up, 396 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,839 and I said, oh, I said, my mom says they'll turn up 397 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:19,759 as a joke. And just as I said that, we've got a phone 398 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:25,799 call the hotel said the cases had turned up. So and another thing was 399 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:29,480 that I could smell a perfume she always wore to order You've jew which has 400 00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,559 quite a distinctive smell, and I could smell it in the bathroom and I 401 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,279 said to my husband, I said, can you smell anything in the bathroom? 402 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,519 Go and smell in there. And I didn't have any perfume because my 403 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,519 case had gone missing, said nothing, and he said yeah, he said, 404 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,039 I can smell it. And as soon as we got the cases back, 405 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:51,759 it just it just went, the smell went. But I am also 406 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,799 psychometric, where I can hold an object that a person wears a lot, 407 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,680 like a watch or earrings or glasses, and I can read the past and 408 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,079 few with them, usually quite accurately. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, 409 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:07,680 I been able to do that since since I was young. Really, Yeah, 410 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,200 I wish i'd had it with me at the time when I saw you, 411 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,880 because my wife once we're in her previous she was buried before, yeah, 412 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,240 way back in her past. Her husband it was a builder, and 413 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:26,440 I think they did some demolition work as well. They found a wooden box, 414 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,000 uh in. I think it was up in an ettic or something. 415 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,799 And inside this box it had like a cross in Syria, but inside of 416 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:41,319 it hidden it's hidden in the cloth was like a a star of Baby type 417 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,079 of thigure. It was. It was actually handmade and it seems like it's 418 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,200 silver, and we've been trying to find out, you know what. It's 419 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,000 history type of thing, you know. But if ever I see you again, 420 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,079 I'll try and bring it show it to you. Yeah, that would 421 00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,559 be nice. But I could certainly do a reading for you if you like. 422 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,799 You know, we've had a couple of people were sort of try to 423 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,720 do that and they said, there's probably something from the war where it was 424 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:14,240 hidden, and it seems like it was probably Jewish. Yeah, and it's 425 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:15,839 probably hidden for some reason. Yeah, that was the thing. Why was 426 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:21,079 it hidden? You know? Yeah, i'd have to know. It's got 427 00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,200 like a little it's got like a little hinge on it, but it's got 428 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,759 a piece of wood inside the hinge to it's a strange little piece of It's 429 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,920 quite an amazing little thing that was made. Actually, But I got off 430 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,960 the beating tracking a little bit. No, that's all right. So I 431 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,799 was I was actually going to ask you do you believe in ghosts? But 432 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,960 I think you've already answered that by saying that what you said already I do. 433 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,319 I've seen ghosts as well, and I talk about that in my book. 434 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:51,480 I saw the ghost of a little girl when I worked at this private 435 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,240 hospital in Accrington the first day I was there, because what I didn't know 436 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,079 was that the home was built on the site of an or cotton milk. 437 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,839 From what I saw was a little girl skipping up and down the corridor, 438 00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:08,640 and I just assumed although she was dressed quite all in an old fashioned way, 439 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,240 as I interpreted it rightly as it proved at the time, and I 440 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,400 said a lood to her, and she just ignored me. And I thought, 441 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,640 that's strange, and she just skipped past me. Because I was doing 442 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,440 the medicine round and everybody I went into, I said, is that your 443 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,480 granddaughter? No? No, And I thought, they don't know any of 444 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,599 these people yet. And then after I'd finished, I went downstairs in the 445 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,559 left and I asked the matron, I said, is somebody somebody's granddaughter upstairs 446 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,799 on the top floor visiting? And she said, no, it's not visiting 447 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:39,960 at the moment, she said, in anyway, she said, they I 448 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:44,079 have to signing and come for this lot of door and behind you, she 449 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,559 said, I would know if anybody was visiting. She said why what are 450 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,480 you saying? I was a little girl skipping up and down, and she 451 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,240 said, oh my god, you've seen our resident ghost and apparently as well 452 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,839 so and it was exactly the same eyesore, and she just and I refused 453 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,519 to work up there on my own after that. I wouldn't go. I 454 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:12,679 was quite scared, although she seemed harmless enough. You know, that's interesting 455 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,679 that other people would see what you've seen and there was already known about it, 456 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:22,440 wasn't it. Well? Yeah, and I think, as I say, 457 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,280 it was a cotton mill and a lot of children used to get caught 458 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,880 under them, didn't they, of course, unfortunately. And I wonder if 459 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,760 she was maybe a victim or something. I don't know, Yeah, possibly, 460 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,079 But she looked as solid as a real child. I didn't touch her, 461 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,320 obviously, but she looked solid to me, you know. And I've 462 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:47,800 had that happen twice. The other time was I didn't put this in my 463 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,760 book. Actually maybe I should have done. I was at the Tower of 464 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,960 London, you know, and there are lots of cherish and people, and 465 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,480 I completely lost my son's than my husband, and I was getting a bit 466 00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:06,920 panicky, you know, because I get a bit anxious, you know, 467 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,320 in crowds, because I have I'm slightly on the autistic spectrum, I think. 468 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,719 And anyway, I just thought of I wait here, maybe they'll come 469 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,719 and find me. And I sat down on this bench and turn, you 470 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 know, you just turn around, like you were saying, and then there's 471 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,320 nothing there. And then suddenly there's someone there thing yeah, yeah, yeah. 472 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,960 And this woman just suddenly seemed to appear from no one. I thought, 473 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,199 where have you come from? She just seemed to be there. I 474 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,920 didn't hear her coming or anything. Quite a big lady, and she was 475 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,679 dressed in an old fashioned wolf dress. She had a cap on her head, 476 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,679 you know, like the maids used to wear, but just a plane, 477 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,880 plain wool dress. And she looked as solid as you or I. 478 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,000 And she she started to initiated the conversation, which was strange. She said 479 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,320 to me, she said, oh, don't worry. You look worried. 480 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,920 What you're worrying about? I thought, well, low, do you know 481 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:01,800 I'm worried for a start. After and then I just said, well, 482 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,559 I said I've lost my sons and they were only little. Then I said 483 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,559 I've lost my husband. And you know what she said to me. She 484 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,960 said, oh, don't worry. She said, they're in the tower playing 485 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,760 with the swords, because apparently they leave all these weapons and things out, 486 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,519 you know, just blunt once for the kids to play with. But I 487 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,719 didn't know that. I'd not even been up there. And she said, 488 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,760 oh, you know what boys are like, she said, to just having 489 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,119 a little sword play up there. And I said, oh, I said, 490 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,360 boy, Oh you're right, and she said, oh I am right. 491 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,119 She said she was adamant she was right. And then she said, 492 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:38,480 oh, don't worry, they'll turn up soon. And she said, I 493 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:40,719 look after two boys. She said, I know what boys are like, 494 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,920 and then off she sort of walked, and she did walk away. But 495 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,800 you know when she arrived, I didn't see her arrive, is what I'm 496 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,199 saying. And I just assumed that she was one of the staff, dressing 497 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,199 up as in all flash and clothing, you know, that she was just 498 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,320 one of the staff at the tower of London Place. And then as soon 499 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,320 as she'd gone, who would come down the steps of the tower but all 500 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,360 three of them, And I said, where have you been? I said, 501 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,639 I've been looking everywhere for you. To my husband, I was more 502 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,920 across with him than anything, because he just wanders off as well. And 503 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,320 he said, oh, we've been in the tower and they've been playing with 504 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:24,760 the swords well, and I just thought, wow. And then that's seal 505 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,840 evidence, isn't it. Well it is really And then I made a point 506 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,039 of asking as I was leaving, is it is it a dressing update for 507 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,840 the staff? You dress up in the old fashioned clothes? And she said, 508 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,280 well, we do, but we're not today, not today, it's 509 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,960 just every day. She said, we do on special occasions, but not 510 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,880 today. And I told her and she said, oh, you know, 511 00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,599 she said, I don't know what to make of that because I'm quite new 512 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,000 here, but she says, I'll find out for you if you want, 513 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,719 And I said, oh, don't, it's all right. I said, 514 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,320 these things happened to me and I just left it, you know, fascinating. 515 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,599 Yeah. You do you ever sort of go on ghost hands, you 516 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,800 know, you get the ghost clubs and things. Do you ever do anything 517 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,000 like that? I would love to join a ghrst tunk club. It doesn't 518 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,920 seem to be anything like that unless I'm I might be wrong there though, 519 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,320 because I know that there is quite a lot of history here in Carlisle wealthy 520 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,960 that they do do ghost on something. In fact, I came up to 521 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,639 Carlough that it was a Scottish ghost company that invited me up. There's a 522 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,679 castle with the Carlisle Castle we went to. It's very haunted Mary Queen of 523 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,599 Yes. Yeah, I've been in it, but not at nice, I 524 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,880 have to say, but I didn't like the atmosphere. But I did go. 525 00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:43,119 Saying that. I did go to Edinburgh on a weekend citybreate with my 526 00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,559 husband and we went on a ghost walk and I didn't see anything, but 527 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,199 I got I felt something touch me, something pushed me, and it pushed 528 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,239 me into the guide. So I went careering into him and he said, 529 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,320 you're not the first one that's happened to and that's all they said. And 530 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,639 he was laughing. He said this is something pork and I said yeah, 531 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,719 and he said come nearer to me. He said there's something mischievous here and 532 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,960 that's all he said. And I thought, oh wow, Well it would 533 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,760 put me, wouldn't it. Yeah, I'll have to put you in touch 534 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,679 with the Scottish ghost company I would look to. Yeah, i'll send I'll 535 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,400 send you a link for that and a chat with them because obviously they do 536 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,920 heavy events that go around Scotland. You do you ever know of any sky 537 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,199 watches around you? I mean, maybe I should form a SkyWatch club because 538 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:36,440 apparently Cumbria is a real hot spot. This journalist interviewed me. He said 539 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:40,239 Cumbria gets more than its first share of UFO s as it happens or No. 540 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,559 Malcolm Robinson, have you heard of him? No, I haven't known 541 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,119 what. He's written several books about UFOs and also the paranormal. I'm sure 542 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,920 you'd have a very interesting conversation with you. But he actually moved back to 543 00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:00,800 the Scottish He actually moved back to Scotland fairly recently because he was living in 544 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,519 Hosting Hastings down you know, in my neckad of woods. Basically all right, 545 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,079 Yeah, he's several books in the case the UFO Case Files of Scotland. 546 00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:14,559 You want to check those out on Amazon, and the Paranormal Case Files 547 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:19,719 of Great Britain. I would like to look at the Malcolm Robinson is welcome. 548 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,760 Malcolm Robinson. Yeah, all right, he's actually doing a talk on 549 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:29,280 a on a cruise line at the moment. Yeah, and you wrote a 550 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,679 book about the death woods Ufo incident as well. All right, so yeah, 551 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,079 it's a very rough chap actually, Malcolm. And I'm sure, I 552 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,800 mean, he's obviously not too far from you what I thought. I mean, 553 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,199 I know Scotland's quite large, but so I think in the scheme of 554 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,000 things, it's not too far away. No. Well, the dearest place 555 00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:55,920 towards is Gretner. You know, it's quite fish there's a lovely big shopping 556 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,840 place there and there's the blacksmith shop and Borge. That's sounds like a sort 557 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,800 of attraction. People go there, you know, still to get married. 558 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,559 But because he's just slightly over the border just after yeah, yes, just 559 00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:15,119 over the border. Yeah. It would take me probably in the car about 560 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,840 fifteen minutes to get to Greta, that's all but dunfrees So where my dad 561 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,920 is from is about an hour away, so that's a little bit further where 562 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,880 my dad's Ciders family are from. Yeah. No, I'll send you some 563 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,800 links with Malcolm. You were just sending my friends with course he might have 564 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,239 been on your frame for a list already. You never know, we might 565 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,599 be Yeah, yeah, i'll try. I'll have a look. Yeah, 566 00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:42,000 thank you. So I'll definitely do that. But I mean so so if 567 00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,519 you'd like to get on some ghost hands, I mean, I'll told as 568 00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:47,079 I said, I'll send you some links for that. But I noticed at 569 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:52,320 the back of your book, because a bibliography, you pronounce it. Yes, 570 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,239 that's right, yes, and it's You've actually referred to quite a few 571 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,880 different people like Doloris Kennon. That's right. Have you read a lot of 572 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,119 post stuff. I've read the free waves of volunteers, you know, going 573 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:12,519 back to you, we mentioned about reincarnation. I postulated in my own book. 574 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,119 Then I might actually be a volunteer incarnator here because in other words, 575 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:22,800 that I've volunteered at this time to interact with ets and tell my story for 576 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,800 the reason being that we need, I think to be or rather we're coming 577 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:35,159 into a greater awareness that we're no longer alone in the universe, especially with 578 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:40,760 all these whistleblowers coming out now in America and Groof and his like coming out, 579 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,400 and you know, I think there's a sea change happening as we speak 580 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,840 in the UFO community. So I actually wondered if why I was kind of 581 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,239 prompted to come out now at this time was all planned all along and I'm 582 00:42:54,559 --> 00:43:00,199 some kind of volunteer, you know, walking I've actually postulated that. Don't 583 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,039 know whether that is the case, but I certainly believe in reincarnations. So 584 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,199 cool to me. The next ord this you mentioned Bad Hopkins. Now, 585 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,280 Bad Hopkins was very much involved in the people that the ad actions. He 586 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,800 was. Yeah, I actually wrote somebout Hopkins. He was the first person 587 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,360 I ever opened up to about what had happened to me. And I wrote 588 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,280 him what all the things that had happened to me around the year two thousand, 589 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,639 just after the millennium here? And he wrote back to me, he's 590 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:35,840 not with us anymore, but he wrote a very sympathetic letter back to me. 591 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,360 It took ages to get to me from New York because it did you 592 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:45,159 didn't have the internet then and things like that. And he was very sympathetic, 593 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,159 you know, and it made me feel better that somebody understood at least 594 00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:55,199 didn't sort of dismiss me some kind of nutcase. Do you know Peter Robbins 595 00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,480 at all? No, I've heard of him. I mean, I can 596 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:01,960 put you in touch with Peter Rubbies and maybe you'd like to do a show 597 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,360 with him, because he's got a radio show it goes out from the States. 598 00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,840 Well, just goes out from the States as well, but oh, 599 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,159 thank you, Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, if he would 600 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:13,920 be willing. As I say, he was a good friend of bad Hopkins 601 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,639 as well, so you could probably have a good Well. I've read both 602 00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:23,320 of his books. The one that resonated with me was A Sight Unseen Intruders 603 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:30,000 and in that book he Unknown Intruders or something it was, I can't remember 604 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,920 the exact title. And he said in that book he postulated about these pocket 605 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,199 dimensions, you know, because he talks about people being taken from busy beaches 606 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,639 and busy places, and he postulated in that but that they can opten up 607 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,599 like a pocket dimension, so that nobody sees what's happening. That is interesting, 608 00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,960 I think, because I think that's happened to me. I really do. 609 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,760 I'm convinced of it. Yeah. I've got three of his books, 610 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:01,559 the Sight Unseen, if I can, You've got Science UFO in Physicility and 611 00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:12,360 trans Gens yeah, with Carol Rainey. Yeah, yeah, and yes he 612 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,800 did. And the nurse that I saw in Cyprus, certainly she looked like 613 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,400 a hybrid. Do you know what I mean by that? Yeah, very 614 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:28,679 big. I feel like that he captured a really well my friend looks. 615 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,840 She looks a lot better now than what my drawing was, you know, 616 00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:38,239 it was very very similar to what she did look in reality. That yeah, 617 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:45,199 so well. The next one I mentioned is a doctor, Roger Dia. 618 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,159 Now he was obviously involved a lot in the Idian implants. Do you 619 00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,119 think you might have an Adian implant? Do you know if anythink that's yes 620 00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:59,480 a bit strange? Yeah, no I do, but I'm a bit of 621 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,960 a coward about getting it further investigated. But I set alarms off a lot 622 00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,880 when i'm security alarms in supermarkets, in shops. In fact, when I 623 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,639 was in New York, it was so embarrasseding went in this clothing shop and 624 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,480 we came out and I set it off, and the guard chased me and 625 00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,519 he insisted on searching my bag. There's nothing there. And when I'm coming 626 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,320 through a port, security off and set off the Even though I take every 627 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,920 piece of jewelry that I'm wearing off because I know what to expect now, 628 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,280 I'll still set it off. On one particular time, this guard was waving 629 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,480 something across my knee, and every time she waved it over my knee. 630 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,639 It set it off, and she said, well, she said I'd had 631 00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:44,559 a knee implant, some kind of metal implant or something. I said, 632 00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,199 no, not that I'm aware of, I said, And she looked at 633 00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,320 me like I was some kind of loon and waved me through in the end. 634 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,800 But I think there's something in money, and it's in it's in my 635 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,719 right knee. I can even tell you which news I told you, not 636 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,000 how to investigated at all. I haven't some bit of a coward unfrightened. 637 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,519 No, I mean you don't have to have dug out with it. Well, 638 00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,960 you could maybe get some X rays done and to have a look at 639 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:14,800 couldn't you. I don't know how you do that? How would you do 640 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,320 that? Well? I guess, oh yeah, I suppose you need to 641 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:23,320 know someone's got him. Yeah, I guess, I say, Roger lianm 642 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,760 what have been able to help you there? But unfortunately that's a bit late 643 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,119 as well? Now I know, I know, I've just I just keep 644 00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:38,039 setting things off. So another interesting name that's on this big, big blog 645 00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:43,159 is that Mike Orum. Does it rain in other dimensions? Oh? Yes, 646 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,559 he's a good friend of mine, is he? I met him through 647 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:52,320 about ten years ago now in the yeah woman stuff. Yeah, he's a 648 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,960 nice guy. That's where he was born. Yeah, yeah, his story 649 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,800 is quite amazing about his UFO e ben Uh. Another person that may be 650 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:07,880 able to be of use to help for you is actually Mary Rodwell. Yeah, 651 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,159 why do you say that? Sorry, I'm just kidding. Has she 652 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,519 has she? Have you actually spoken to her at all? I didn't get 653 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,599 a chance to at the Awakening next book because every time I tried to a 654 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,000 huge Q you know, so I couldn't. Really. Well, I'll try 655 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,199 and put you in touch with her because I actually talked to her quite often, 656 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,519 and that she will actually be someone that will probably be interested in your 657 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:36,400 case as well. Yeah. For what reason do you think would she? 658 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,000 Well, because she's she's very much of the same story that the sort of 659 00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:44,320 sort of stories that you've been coming out with, you know, the abductions 660 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,639 and out of body experiences and the Plaudian thing, and you know it's when 661 00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,400 she's written several books about the new human and the one you've got written down 662 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:59,679 here Awakenings. We'll actually try and put you in touch with Mary because I 663 00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:04,000 think you would probably be a lot of help to you. Well, why 664 00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:09,360 I took an interest in a book Awakenings is because when I was pregnant with 665 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:15,000 both my boys, I was taken. And I know I was because with 666 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,119 both boys and I encountered a great right in front of me ready to take 667 00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:24,880 me. When I was in about my middle trimester with Christopher, and when 668 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,760 I was pregnant with Adam, I was put back in the kitchen and I 669 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,880 woke up under the table in the kitchen in the early morning hours. And 670 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:42,440 both my boys are on the autistic spectrum, but they're both extremely clever and 671 00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,440 have never needed to try at school or anything. They've breezed through exams. 672 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:52,360 They both got distinctions at degree level. My elder son is extremely clever, 673 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:59,119 and there's one time they were both classs gifted children. And I'm not extremely 674 00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:02,400 clever. My husband isn't either, even though he's a doctor. He has 675 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,639 had to try really hard and you know, seriously swat for all these exams, 676 00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:10,960 whereas my boys just have these like photographic memories. And I remember one 677 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,559 time I went to Adam's parent to evening and his teacher said, you know, 678 00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:20,719 she said, you think Adam isn't listening and he's staring out the window, 679 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,719 and you think he's daydreaming, she said. And one day she said, 680 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,519 I said to Adam what I've just said, she said, and he 681 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:30,199 repeated everything back to me. I'd finit that I just said, and she 682 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:36,039 said, I thought he wasn't paying attention, and he was. And it's 683 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,639 like they've got photographic memories. And I just wonder if something was done to 684 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,000 them in the womb, you know, I don't know, yeah, or 685 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:50,920 if they are what Mary Rodwell would call crystal children, is it. Yeah, 686 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,679 I'm wondering if they are part of this way for volunteers as well, 687 00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:00,400 because they've always been instinctively really good people. And I don't mean like self, 688 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,119 rightis when I say that, I just mean like my eldest. He 689 00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:08,559 won't even kill a fly. May I'll just squash a fly if it's annoying, 690 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,239 but he will he thinks that sacrilege. You'll get it under a glass 691 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,039 and paper and go to the effort to put it outside. And they've got 692 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:20,199 every all life. It's like valuable, he says to me. And he 693 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,599 tells me off if he doesn't like sprays of any kind. He says, 694 00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:29,559 the poisonous to the air, and he's really eco conscious. It was like 695 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,480 he was born that way. He's always been that way since he was little. 696 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,519 And You're wonder, you know, what what was this coming from? 697 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,239 Yeah, and you just think he comes out with ideas that are way ahead 698 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,360 of our time. And he'll tell me about things I have no idea. 699 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,760 I really struggle to understand what he's talking about. Wouldn't it be great if 700 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,280 we could do this or that? And You'll go into quite quite a length 701 00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:57,599 of telling me about something, and I'll say, yeah, but we haven't 702 00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,360 got that technology available towards yet, Adam. And I'm always having to say 703 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,400 that to him. And I think, has he come from a more advanced 704 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,719 civilization to incarnate into hours to help at this time? You know, because 705 00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:13,480 the things he comes out with, I tell you, it's amazing. M 706 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,559 hm. You know. He talks things that are in the realms of quantum 707 00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:23,559 physics, you know, dar trek, like things that we just haven't got 708 00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:27,320 heads around yet. Do you know what I mean? Yes, certainly. 709 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,239 I mean I think that a lot of the TV shows actually tell you a 710 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,800 bit about what's going on anyway, you know, Yeah, yeah, like 711 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,159 the hidden Truth, And I mean the thing that a lot of the matrix. 712 00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:42,599 For instance, you've seen so much now that sort of you can relate 713 00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,679 to the matrix nowadays. You know, I don't have that. It's called 714 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:53,280 very deep subjects. Yeah. Yeah, but he'll say things like that, 715 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,519 the aeroplanes are really primitive. Now he said this, and he'd want to 716 00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,199 be about six years old when he said to me, Mummy, you know 717 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,039 this is a very primitive form of transport, don't you, mummy? Wow? 718 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,039 And I looked at him and I said, well, what would how 719 00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:09,840 could you do any better? And he said, well, he said, 720 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,079 for a start, he said, you don't need to keep using all this 721 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,960 kind of petrol and all these oil based bules. This is at six, 722 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,480 you know, in engines, he said, it's all redundant. Really, 723 00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,480 he said we should have moved on from this by now. And he used 724 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,960 to get really angry about it. Yeah he still does actually, and he 725 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:39,440 said we should be using teleport and portals. Wow, that's really for a 726 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:47,239 six year old. So he doesn't come up with things like that. You've 727 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,119 been coming out with this since he was a young child, you know. 728 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,920 So to me, if I could talk to Mary, maybe she could throw 729 00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:59,320 some light on maybe yeah, definitely, will definitely put your touch with her 730 00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:04,480 almost and I'll say that you'll be getting to touch and I'm sure you really 731 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,480 the only thing is in Australia, So it's not really good guy. Couldn't 732 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,800 we Definitely? Absolutely? I mean he is now this same child, I 733 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,320 say, child is twenty three as my baby still will but he still gets 734 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,320 really frustrated. And he says to me, he's even said to me, 735 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,559 there's an embarbo on the truth And I said, well, I could have 736 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:29,119 told you that. Yeah, And he says, there's things being hidden that 737 00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,960 are going to come out in my lifetime that you will be amazed by month. 738 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,159 So I don't know what he means. He says things are going to 739 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,239 change a lot. I mean, I don't know how you see it. 740 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,360 Well, I think there is a mess of weakening going on. Oh definitely. 741 00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,719 There's a lot of people still asleep, but there's been a mess awakening 742 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,360 since over the last three years. I've seen a lot of people that have 743 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:57,280 changed the working up. Actually, when you say woken up, do you 744 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,599 mean woken up to to the to the of what's the mainstream media come out 745 00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:07,559 with. Oh? Yeah, definitely. The way they're all manipulated and everything's 746 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,440 based on fear. And I mean, I think COVID walk a lot of 747 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,920 people up and that wasn't their intention, was it. But it's spectacularly If 748 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,440 it wasn't. We don't a lot to use that word on the show. 749 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:27,519 So it does come up quite a lot anyway. Yeah, but you men, 750 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239 I didn't anyway, you know, it's all right, but I think 751 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,079 that did work a lot of people. Yeah, And I tried to convince 752 00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:39,280 my husband that it was being used for fear purposes. Absolutely, Yeah, 753 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:43,880 it wouldn't believe me. It's nice to hear you say that again and put 754 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,400 it out on the show. It's good because I instinctively felt it was being 755 00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:53,079 pumped by the mainstream media. And now they're using this Israel war, aren't 756 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:57,639 they. Now they're making fear around that. Well, yeah, there's a 757 00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:00,639 lot of things they've got to cover up, haven't elder lies. There's there's 758 00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:01,960 a lot of things that have been coming out, and I think they're covering 759 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,039 up a lot of lies with this sort of thing that's going on. And 760 00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,159 I don't know where it's all going to have developed, but we have to 761 00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:16,280 wait to see. Well, the latest thing as well, is that the 762 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,000 West is heading towards bankruptcy. Have you heard that one? Well, the 763 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,360 West has been bankrupt for years. Yeah, well that's another one. There's 764 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:30,079 no such thing as money in actual facts. Definitely not got any clause. 765 00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:37,039 But no, that's another massive story that is so deep. It's oh yeah, 766 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,800 I mean the West has been bankrupt for years and we were always living 767 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,039 on borrowed money. But that's a whole other subject that we could get into, 768 00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:52,400 and because things about none of us actually have any debt in actual facts. 769 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,880 But anyway, a big, big subject. But my son kind of 770 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,440 came in a way. What I was trying to say was from being a 771 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,519 small child in who there was something badly wrong with this world. He still 772 00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:10,599 does and the things he says, you know, I think, my god, 773 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,320 was this coming from it's so wise beyond his years, you know, 774 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,960 or was I would love to talk to Mary about that. Yeah? Yeah. 775 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,719 Has he not going on any shows or anything to talk about his what 776 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,400 he believes in and everything? That would be quite quite interesting. No, 777 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,920 he hasn't. Well, he's a bit shy though. If I asked him 778 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,000 to probably say no, because he's he's because he has, do you know 779 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:43,519 they called it aspurges, they call it neuro diversity. And he shrinks away 780 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:46,360 from He likes to stay in his comfort zone issue, and I said, 781 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,599 you should try and push yourself out of your comfort zone a bit. I 782 00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,199 try and push him out of it. But he hates talking and interviews and 783 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,039 things. It's like, yeah, I mean, I know what you're saying. 784 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,039 Yeah, really will not the one that I like to be questioned about 785 00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:07,719 anything myself. So yeah, well yeah, I wouldn't say he's great at 786 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,719 conversation either, unfortunately, but then again his dad isn't, so I could 787 00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:22,760 see where he gets that from. It's been fantastic talking to you. Your 788 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,159 book is called Phantoms in the Night or ets with a question mark, and 789 00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:31,239 it's my lifelong experiences or experience of contact with the parer and normal and that's 790 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:37,079 the rain mckaddam. And you can find that on Amazon. And is that 791 00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,039 the only place you can get it on Amazon? You can also get it 792 00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:46,440 at six Books in that's my publishers publish. Yeah, yeah, And it's 793 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:54,440 also available on some minor ebook sites. It's on Waterstone's e book site as 794 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,400 an e book. I discovered last night when I googled it, so if 795 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,880 you just google it, it comes up on several sites, but I can 796 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,719 send you the main ones if you like. The links once to come off 797 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360 here, yeah, and I'll put them on the Paranal Dimensions page so I 798 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,400 can come and look and see it. And if anyone was to get in 799 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:20,559 touch with you, can they Yeah, they can email me at right at 800 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,079 the back of my book. There's an email there anyway. It's ditsy all 801 00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:30,519 lowercase letters ditsy D I T S y ten the number ten all together now 802 00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:36,639 spaces so ditsy ten at gmail dot com. And they can email me there. 803 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,199 You know, I'll send you that anyway if you like, I'll send 804 00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:43,960 you that as well. Well. I've got it in the back of the 805 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,920 book here anyway. So oh right, so you could see it there, 806 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,760 Yeah, I did actually see it earlier. What you said about I said, 807 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,039 I was just friends. Oh I found it now, you're I was 808 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:57,239 frantically looking for it. Yeah, yeah, or they can. I'll send 809 00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,760 you my Facebook page link to the book page. They can call. They 810 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,280 can contact me there. Of course, they could send me a message, 811 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,519 so you know, if they want to. You're under the rain McAdam on 812 01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:13,719 Facebook. Look, yes I am, yes, my profiles yeah, well 813 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,800 so hopefully people will hunt you down and but as I said, I we'll 814 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,440 send you those links anyway. And I hope it's been great talking to you 815 01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,440 and I hope to get to meet you again sometime. Yeah. Same here. 816 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:30,880 Yeah, hopefully we might meet at the expoor next year again. Yeah, 817 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,960 but I will get you in touch with Welcome and Mary maybe the Scottish 818 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,719 Ghost Company and thank you. Yeah, you might find something interesting going on, 819 01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:46,519 I hope, so that'll be nice. Yeah, I'll let you go 820 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,639 the other Ray. Thank you very much for coming on the show. It's 821 01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:53,119 been great talking to you, and best of luck for the future. Thank 822 01:00:53,159 --> 01:01:00,079 you. Hope to see you talking at some local events maybe. Okay, 823 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,840 all right, take care of yourself, Okay, thank you, thank you, 824 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,239 not night, bye bye bye bye, thank you bye. Thank you, 825 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,119 Lorrain. It's great having you on the show. Right. My next 826 01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,320 show, I've got a special coming up on the sixth of November and it's 827 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:21,480 with Michael Feeley and Michael will be featuring with some other great guests including David 828 01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:25,159 like at the Iconic Special in December. So Michael will be telling us all 829 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:30,360 about that. It's an exclusive, so I hope you'll join me for that 830 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,639 one. It's a special Monday, the sixth and November. In the meantime, 831 01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,079 if you'd like to get in touch with me at any time, my 832 01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:42,199 email address is David Young two q in at yohou dot co dot UK. 833 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,360 That's David Young two q in at yahoo dot co dot UK. So until 834 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,159 the next one, which is on the sixth of November, don't forget that 835 01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:54,599 one, Michael Feely Special. I'm really looking forward to that one, as 836 01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:59,320 I do for every show. I'll speak to you then, bye bye everyone, 837 01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,960 Time for go to bed. Alright, it is late, shall we 838 01:02:04,039 --> 01:03:07,719 retire? Spooky Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.