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Radio deph Hello and welcome to the show. It's almost Halloween on this particular
show. As a lady that I met at the Awakening Expert in Manchester a
couple of months back. Her name's Lorraine McCadam, and she has a book
out explaining all about the amazing things that have happened through her life and are
now pretty amazing. I must say. Anyway, I'm not going to waste
any more time talking. I'd like to introduce Lorraine McCadam to you. Hello,
Lorrain, Welcome to the show. Hi, it's nice to welcome you
to the show. So we've we've tried to get this off the off the
ground for a few weeks now, haven't we another, But I'm glad to
hear that you're feeling better now anyway, and thank you. Yeah, it
was nice to meet you. They're waking in the export always good. I
mean, i've not heard anything more about this year next year is yet?
Are you? No? No, I haven't. No. I think they
have a page on face but you can go to and yeah, see when
it's I think it's going to be earlier this time, is it. I've
not seen any sort of adverts for it or anything. No, I haven't
yet. But yeah, it's nice to meet you, know, I nic
to. I've got your book here in front of me. It's Phantoms in
the Night or ET's for the question mark, and it says my lifelong experience
of contact with the paranormal. It's pretty striking. The cover up with a
UFO and it looks like you in the field watching this uf VO. Yeah.
Well, why I chose that was because it kind of reflects what actually
happened to me in two thousand and eight, so it kind of appealed to
me when I saw this. You know, my publisher sent me to a
website to choose a design and as soon as I saw that, I thought
that's the one I want. So, you know, it kind of resonated
with me. Yeah, this is a nice little cupbo. Actually, it's
like a mode car. Everyone that does has. I will put a photo
of it on the Paranormal Dimensions page actually for anyone who wants to see it
on Facebook days. And yeah, it's quite striking cover anyway. Ryan,
So how did it all start out. What was your sort of earliest recollections
of these contact with Was it aliens or or did you think it was something
else at the time. Well, at the time it was the sort of
late seventies, and I was only twelve years old when it all started for
me, so I didn't really understand what was happening to me. I'll be
honest, I'd never seen a UFO at this point in my life. I
hadn't read anything about it. The only thing that I ever saw vaguely relating
to it in a bookshop was Eric Vonderichan's Chariots of the Gods. Actually,
yeah, yeah, my dad had it and then I read it. I
was a good reader for my age. I was always good at English.
It's no surprise I ended up teaching English, but there was nothing in there
about people being taken as such, you know, so there was nothing really
that would lead me to think about eties or abduction or anything like that.
It wasn't until years later that I realized what had happened to me really connected
up the dots when I found Whitley Striber's book Communion. So what I blamed
on at first. What would happen is so I would hear like a loud
buzzing how it would start, and then it would come nearer and nearer,
and it would seem to fill my whole body like this buzzing noise, and
I would be completely paralyzed from top to to I couldn't even open my mouth
to scream or anything. And then I would black out and it would be
pitch black nights, you know, be in my bed, and then I'd
come to and it would be bright daylight, and there would be this huge
gap of hours where I wouldn't have a clue what had happened to me.
And that happened to me at least once a week from being twelve till I
was sixteen, and I put that down. At the time, I would
beg them, you know, in my head, I would say, please,
don't do this, don't do this, but I didn't know it was
begging. And because I was a Christian, I decided that it was some
kind of demon attacker, that they're trying to take possession or something, you
know, because I was brought up as a Christian. So I told the
vicar and everything, and he said that they pray for me, but none
of it did any good. And I used to try and pray and sometimes
if I cried out, you know, to God, they would go away.
So that made me wonder in retrospect now with they have to respect that
I don't know, even wherever they're from, that they acknowledge that there is
a creator or a God. I don't know, but it was very frightening,
and I think all along they were trying to show me, actually,
no, we're not demons, because three significant things happened. One of them
was that. The first one was that one night it was summertime, I
was wearing like a thin blue night dress and they paralyzed me, but they
didn't they didn't let me black out, and I could feel them drawing on
the back of my night dress, and I said, in my mind want
to hear fore you're doing, but they didn't answer, and then to let
me out of the paralysis, and of course the immediately went to see what
they'd put on my night dress, and I took it off because it was
on the back and they'd drawn these like hieroglyphic like symbols on the back of
my night dress and they looked very much like the Egyptian hieroglyphics. Do you
know what I mean? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, And because I was
just a kid, it really frightened me this because it was like black crayon
to describe it. So I put it in the laundry because obviously my mom
did the laundry. I didn't do it for myself. And my mom blamed
me and said I've done it, And then I copied them from a book
and she really blamed me for it and made me wash it myself with remember
the fairy soap that Imagine your mom wouldn't think immediately you've been sort of possessed
or think by aliens or you've done this. Yeah, she wouldn't. Yeah,
she wouldn't believe me at all. And I tried to tell her what
was happening to me with the buzzing and blacking out, and she just said,
oh, you're having nights. You know, you've got a very vivid
imagination. And sometimes I would hear them whispering before they would come and the
buzzing would start. I would hear like like they would consulting each other almost
and I would think, go away, demons, you know when things like
that, and I would say, in the name of Jesus Christ, just
leave, and things like that, and nothing seemed to do any good.
And then one night they put me back and it was daylight and I came
to in the garden and of course I was locked out and had to knock
on the door for my mum to let me back into the house. So
that really really frightened me. And she accused me of literally jumping out of
the window, going down the dwnpack to knock her up, and thinks,
I am on the warning just for attention. It's all in my book that.
But then another thing that really frightened me, that made me think,
what the hell is happening to me, is that I did have a very
vivid dream where I think I recalled some of the abduction from where a black
towl and I remember like floated out of bed, and they made their appearance
look like cats with big eyes, and they put me on this like,
for want of a better word, like a floating stretcher or something. And
then I went through the house wall and I remember looking at the brakes the
inside of the wall where there were spiders webs. I can remember it really
vividly. And then I seemed to float up to this cylindrical craft which was
like a very vivid blue light underneath it, like a circular, a big
circular blue light, like I was going up to the inside of the shape,
and then I seemed to black out. But after I had that dream,
you know, it really made me wonder, off, what what the
heck is going on? You know, I just didn't understand at all.
And then I got to sixteen, and I applied to my nurse training because
back then you didn't do a degree like you do now. You would go
to pre nursing college. And it seemed to stop altogether for some time after,
you know, and they seemed to leave me alone to just sort of
get on with my life. And this is how it's been. It kind
of stops and then starts up again, and I'll have intense periods of contact
and then they go again, they go away, So it's weird. There's
no rhyme or reason to it. You know. Did your parents ever sort
of understand what was happening? Well, I couldn't tell my dad because what
had happened was and people have asked me, do they think that on some
level I kind of instigated some kind of contact inadvertently because I was so traumatized
because what happened was I was really close to my father and unfortunately my father
and my mum weren't getting on very well at all. So my dad went
and had an affair, and he went off with this woman that he had
the affair with, and he went to live with her, and she soon
got pregnant with him. And after that, yeah, and after that,
he just didn't want to know me at all, and she didn't like him
to visit me, and it wouldn't give my money, any maintenance money for
me or anything. And this woman was very possessive of him. And it
really did traumatize me a lot because it had gone from being like I'd had
dislike loving dad, and then suddenly it was like he died, you know,
and it was horrible and I couldn't stop crying and things, so kind
of I wonder if that might have brought them to me in some way,
you know, because I was really heartbroken at the time. So people have
actually postulated that it might be because you've gone through this trauma, that that
something you trigger, something that then contacts makes you able to contact the paranormal.
I don't know whether you subscribe to that. I do, Yeah,
I think there's a lot of truth in it. And when you were relating
about the alien when I'm rising up through the building. I've heard that story
via other people as well. Oh wow, Yeah. I like when people
say things like that because it gives me validation. This is why I came
out in the end with my story after I'd hid it for forty years.
I wish I hadn't ind it for so long, but I always felt like
if I came out because originally I don't teach in fee now you know,
further education, but I did teach in further education when I first qualified,
and I thought there's no way I can come out about this while I was
in further education because I was just frightened for my career. But now because
I work for myself, I don't care. You know, people are actually
very a lot more open minded to think now about this in the past.
I mean you've only got see other TV shows that all haven't you but it
goes chasing and goes hunting and aliens and everything. There's so many shows on
the TV now. Yeah, there's the Encounters. Is really good about the
I think it was broad Haven in Wales. There are a lot of sightings
and they treated them with dignity. And I recently you know, you probably
saw the newspaper article and I took a risk really when he rang me because
he found my book in a book shop in Carlisle and realized I was local
and got in touch with me through the email at the back and he actually
said can I interview you? And I thought, is he just going to
ridicule me and say I'm some sort of nukcase. But then when it came
out it was a very fair article, you know, and he promised he
wouldn't and he didn't, you know, it was it was I felt like
he had an not minded approach, you know. I mean there are some
very fair journalists out there, and if it goes on the mainstream rediing they'll
giggle and laugh about it, but when you've only got to look at all
the stories now that are coming out from the Pentagon. Yeah, they're taking
UFO seriously and everything like that. It's you know, it's not a laughing
matter at all. You know, it's a very serious project. Yeah.
Well, I have had a quer if from a national paper. I won't
say who it is, and I'm tying with going with them or not,
because in one way it'd be good for my book, you know, for
getting it out there, but in another way, I'm frightened they'll just treat
me like a nutter. I don't know what to do, really, but
I have to think about it, I think. I mean, the thing
is, I mean, if if somebody interviews you and they stop playing around,
you just get walk away, don't you That's what I would do.
Well, yeah, that's true. But what they tend to do the journalist
is a recording and then what this guy did, he said, I can't
let you see it even before it goes out. They seems to have a
rule where you can only read it afterwards. See what you mean you and
then yeah, and then you know you don't know what's coming had and how
they're putting it out before. Yeah, they twisted to suit theirround a gender
sort of thing. Yeah, so that's the last thing I want. Really,
you know, I'd rather not say anything. You know, they're going
to treat you like an idiot, so I don't know. I just have
to be careful, I suppose. So did you actually physically see aliens?
I mean, can you describe what they look like? Yes, well,
when I was a teenager, you know what I was just talking about,
I did see the what you call the classic gray aliens. Now, when
I had that vivid dream I was telling you about, they came across as
I think they're trying to disguise themselves as cats with big, big eyes,
but the count disguise the big eyes. And one time when they paralyzed me,
one of them was clutching my hand one night, and I could see
his long, thin fingers and that he only had free and that absolutely terrified
me. So I dug my fingers into his, and then when I woke
up, I'd got fingers duging. He dug his fingers back and they were
free, and it confirmed to me that what I'd seen was three long fingers,
and then when I turned around, I managed to break out of the
paralysis one night, and I just caught his face. And that's what made
me think there were demons, because it was very pale, sort of not
what it called gray. Actually, the Grays are not. Actually you're doing
a disservice saying the gray. I think the more of a pale kind of
almost like the color of your paints in your background of your picture, like
a dull brown color they are. And I saw the like dull brown colored
face, like leathery skin and these big huge eyes, you know, And
of course I thought it was a demon, because what would you think,
you know, because I've never connected it with eats at that point, so
I just assumed it was something horrible, you know. I mean, there's
a theory that the Grays are actually controlled by the Reptilian race, Is there?
Oh, because I've heard that they're just robots kind of. It could
be control, biological control, is they could be robots, like you say,
yeah, there could be anything. I guess we don't really know,
do we. No, it's very difficult. I've heard that story through various
people that they controlled by the reptilians who actually control this world, and this
is why they're walls in such a state. It's all right mess, isn't
it. But but I struggle with that because I just think, well,
how are they managing to hide in plain sight? Then you know, well,
I think it's well in my theory and it's not. Really My theory
is other people's theories. Why I go along with you. A lot of
stuff is inter dimensional, and that's one of the reasons I call this show
paranorl dimensions because we're like in the three D dimension. Yeah, those reptilian
that's a reptilia race are actually in the four D and they're actually controlled in
what goes on. They're outside of our line line peripheral vision sort of thing,
and we only see a very small LightWave like bandwidth. Yes, that's
right, and there's a vast amount on either side of that bend with that
they exist in and they will exist at the same time we do. But
they thrive off of our fear, is what I understand it to be.
You know, I don't know if you can go along with that. Did
they did they make you fear them? Yes? I was very frightened,
and yet Conversely, I believe I've met Nordic eats and I feel a lot
more benevolent energy from them. You're a loving energy, caring energy, compassionate.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I've heard that as well. But I mean,
I don't know how many life forms of visiting this planet, or say
that this planet or this dimension, because I think there's a bit of both
going on. When you say a fourth dimension, do you mean another version
of Earth or you know what I mean. It's it's kind of like,
how can I describe it? Yeah, like you've got your TV channel in
front of you. Yeah, yeah, and you've got all your other channel
that are there, but you can't see You only see the one that you're
actually tuned into. Yeah, that's right. So they're all there at the
same time. When you tune into another one is when you get you know
that you're tuning into another part of the bandwidth type of thing that's that's that's
available to you, but there's another load of bandwidth either side. It's not
radio signals and things a lot in the radio. Yeah, yeah, I
understand. Yeah, they're all there, but you tune into it, you
don't see it. You know, This is what when you hear people say
about they see something out of the corner of their eye, Yeah, getting
a glimpse outside of that bandwidth, I think, because when they look for
the own it, it's gone, you know. Yeah, I actually believe
that they know a lot more about physics than we do. And I believe
so too do the Nordics, because from what I've experienced of the Griers and
the Nordics, they are both capable of similar kinds of fits of sick and
claw and becoming bull but still't be present within our free d reality both sets
of etis, and they can make themselves visible if they want to. And
I believe that they'll only like you take a photograph of them with permission,
because I've since been told telepathectally that I was allowed to take a photograph of
the NORDICAI actually managed to photograph in my bedroom. So and also I think
that they both have abilities to move in and out of dimensions and even create
pocket dimensions. Yeah, because they seem to be able to take you and
from a busy place, is what I'm saying. That's happened to me twice,
and yet nobody seems to see or notice anything but you know, something
funny has happened. You know, you've got missing time, and you wonder
how they managed to do that in a busy place. And the only thing
I can think of is that they take you into pocket dimension of some sort.
Hm. That's my theory, so I could go along with it.
I mean, I've heard several stories. I mean, you know, running
and Flip can Seller. Don't you a very similar experience about being taken out
to a cross through the roof and everything. Yeah, and it's kind of
very similar to your description. Really. Oh right, that's interesting. Yeah,
I am friends with them on Facebook. Yeah, they can seller brothers.
Yeah, they're nice. Yeah, the people on a planet always so
yeah, they do seem very nice. When I met them at the Expert
they were lovely. Yeah. So your experiences did they ever lead to things
like out of body experiences as well that you actually knew about, you know,
did you actually sort of try to develop anything like that. I've only
had involuntary out of body experiences. There was one time when I believe one
of the order he Ties took me and he allowed me to remember what happened
and where we went, but I can't remember how we got there. It
was almost like we just teleported, and one's the best way of putting it.
And we went down this like really long white tunnel, and I could
see it was quite a big tunnel. I don't know where I was.
I'm wondering if we went down to some kind of underground city, because we
came out eventually and I could just see this like tall these tall white buildings,
and right in the foreground was a very tall white building. I got
the feeling it was a temple. And he was holding me quite firmly from
behind. I couldn't I wasn't allowed to turn around and see him, but
I could see his hands and there were you They look human, but they've
got very long, tapered fingers, and he then pulled me back. I
wanted to go further and look look more in more detail, because we're all
naturally curious, but he pulled me back down this like long tunnel, and
then I suddenly just jolted back into my body. If I wanted a better
way of putting it, so, I think they can initiate and be definitely
the Nordics, it seemed to be experts or be where they pull you out
if they want to you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's
kind of where I was going with it. I think I just I just
wonder if you'd actually sort of developed anything and I actually knew about what you
would do what was happening. No, no, I haven't. I can't
honestly say that I can do it voluntarily. I have had some very vivid
dreams, but I think they've always been initiated by the ets rather than me.
I think we'll get those that we will have those those sorts of dreams
that are their dreams or are they something happening in a different reality. That's
that's something I always wonder. Well. The one I had in two thousand
and eight, to me, it was initiated by the Nordic guy, because
it's all in my book. But how that started was right at the beginning
of July two thousand and eight. I had this very vivid dream that I
was in my own house and I went out and there was a like a
sort of cream tick tac shaped craft at the bottom of my front garden.
It's quite a big garden. And I went and it opened up in the
middle like a hatch, and he got out and he shook my hand and
he was very friendly in this dream. And I have a really really good
memory for faces, and I wonder if he knew this, because about two
days later we were coming back from the library, were taking the children to
the library. They run a little then, and part on our drive was
a black landlord that as we came in and my husband said, do the
extra cheeky people parking on our drive, you know, And I looked through
the window and I was shocked to see a blonde man and a blond woman,
and the man was the man that I dreamt about, shaking his hand.
Absolutely amazing. And it was shortly after that that I had several sightings
of different craft, three different sets of craft, and I had missing time
on the M six, So I believe that was probably some kind of Nordic
initiated contact thing. You know, they're right there, so wow. Yeah,
well I think we've all had missing some story. Yeah. I was
taken by well, it seemed like a large craft, but I honor the
scene being sat in my car and seeing the inside of it. It's like
a white wall, but the disguise did to look like a Laurie. That
was the thing. It's in my book and what should have taken me ten
minutes to get back took me an hour, and my husband was really desperately
worried about me. But I won't say too much because that chapters in my
boocket. People. Absolutely, you don't give two much away. Yeah,
yeah, how about I mean, you talk about these experiences. I'm always
quite interested in a lot of the reincarnation aspects a bit. Have you got
any sort of memories of previous lives? Yes, I have. I dreamed
that I was a blonde lady with blue eyes, and in this life I've
got hazel eyes and kind of reddish urban hair. When I was younger,
my hair was like a natural dark urban color because my mum is from Italian
people and my father's Celtic blonder, blue eyed, so I was kind of
a combination of the two. I think my dad had read her when he
was younger, like a strawberry blonde, you know what I mean. And
I believe that what I've been told, in fact, that I've lived past
lives not on this planet, that I was effectively I was a Pladian lady
from the Plads. That's interesting that before as well, Yeah, because I
had a dream that I was in a house and it was all beautiful carved
wood in this house. And when I looked out the window, it's so
vivid. It was more like I was, really I really felt like I
was. It was all desert and there was this absolutely huge mountain in the
distance. You couldn't see the height of it. It was so big,
not like any mountain on Earth. It just was absolutely huge, and it
was all sandy colored. You know where I was, but I know I
wasn't on Earth. But I think I've also had earthly lives because I've dreamt
that I was in Tudor times and I went into my drapers buying cloth,
some wool cloth, and it was a really vivid dream. So I have
kind of regressed on my own, and then I've regressed back to Georgian times
and where I lived on a farm, and I remember thinking I don't want
to get up and help out. I didn't like getting up early. And
I think I was a girl and my mother was a bit of a nag
and she was crossing me because I wouldn't eat the ham that she'd put out.
And we're having this part and we're eating outside at a big long time
Mesel table, and she was shouting at me for not eating enough, which
is what your mum would do, isn't it. Really, it wasn't the
same. It wasn't the same math you've put in this love, was it.
No? No, definitely not. She was a big lady with blonde
hair, and she had a cap on, you know, like they used
to wear the maids caps. And when I look down at myself, I
was wearing a white apron and a very plain dress, and I had a
cap on. So I thought after when I thought about it, I thought
it must have been Georgian ei Us. It was like that kind of the
things they wore then, you know, So I believe I've had her f
lives, past her f lives, and definitely I feel I had been.
I had a very vivid dream that I was. I know it was Atlantis
because I heard people talking and saying, you know that the city of Atlantis
was beautiful, and I remember looking around and seeing all these buildings, like
you know, like the Greek buildings with the columns, and I sat on
a wall and I could feel the sun on my head and everything. And
I was definitely a woman there, you know, because my hair was long
and pinned up. So that felt very strange. So I feel like I
had a past life there too, which could be significant. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, do you regard yourself as being psychic or mediumship
capabilities? Yes, not so much mediumship capabilities, although I have heard my
mum has passed over and I have had her speak to me recently. Actually,
when we went on holiday, our cases were missing. This is true,
absolutely true, and she came to me in the dining room and she
says, don't worry. You're going to get all your own dresses back,
and you're going to get some new ones as well. And I thought was
she's talking about because I was absolutely despairing that they must have got lost or
something. And then the next day, because my husband didn't know when they'd
turn up again, it took me to get some new dresses at a boutique
that we found. He said, just in case they don't turn up,
and I said, oh, I said, my mom says they'll turn up
as a joke. And just as I said that, we've got a phone
call the hotel said the cases had turned up. So and another thing was
that I could smell a perfume she always wore to order You've jew which has
quite a distinctive smell, and I could smell it in the bathroom and I
said to my husband, I said, can you smell anything in the bathroom?
Go and smell in there. And I didn't have any perfume because my
case had gone missing, said nothing, and he said yeah, he said,
I can smell it. And as soon as we got the cases back,
it just it just went, the smell went. But I am also
psychometric, where I can hold an object that a person wears a lot,
like a watch or earrings or glasses, and I can read the past and
few with them, usually quite accurately. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah,
I been able to do that since since I was young. Really, Yeah,
I wish i'd had it with me at the time when I saw you,
because my wife once we're in her previous she was buried before, yeah,
way back in her past. Her husband it was a builder, and
I think they did some demolition work as well. They found a wooden box,
uh in. I think it was up in an ettic or something.
And inside this box it had like a cross in Syria, but inside of
it hidden it's hidden in the cloth was like a a star of Baby type
of thigure. It was. It was actually handmade and it seems like it's
silver, and we've been trying to find out, you know what. It's
history type of thing, you know. But if ever I see you again,
I'll try and bring it show it to you. Yeah, that would
be nice. But I could certainly do a reading for you if you like.
You know, we've had a couple of people were sort of try to
do that and they said, there's probably something from the war where it was
hidden, and it seems like it was probably Jewish. Yeah, and it's
probably hidden for some reason. Yeah, that was the thing. Why was
it hidden? You know? Yeah, i'd have to know. It's got
like a little it's got like a little hinge on it, but it's got
a piece of wood inside the hinge to it's a strange little piece of It's
quite an amazing little thing that was made. Actually, But I got off
the beating tracking a little bit. No, that's all right. So I
was I was actually going to ask you do you believe in ghosts? But
I think you've already answered that by saying that what you said already I do.
I've seen ghosts as well, and I talk about that in my book.
I saw the ghost of a little girl when I worked at this private
hospital in Accrington the first day I was there, because what I didn't know
was that the home was built on the site of an or cotton milk.
From what I saw was a little girl skipping up and down the corridor,
and I just assumed although she was dressed quite all in an old fashioned way,
as I interpreted it rightly as it proved at the time, and I
said a lood to her, and she just ignored me. And I thought,
that's strange, and she just skipped past me. Because I was doing
the medicine round and everybody I went into, I said, is that your
granddaughter? No? No, And I thought, they don't know any of
these people yet. And then after I'd finished, I went downstairs in the
left and I asked the matron, I said, is somebody somebody's granddaughter upstairs
on the top floor visiting? And she said, no, it's not visiting
at the moment, she said, in anyway, she said, they I
have to signing and come for this lot of door and behind you, she
said, I would know if anybody was visiting. She said why what are
you saying? I was a little girl skipping up and down, and she
said, oh my god, you've seen our resident ghost and apparently as well
so and it was exactly the same eyesore, and she just and I refused
to work up there on my own after that. I wouldn't go. I
was quite scared, although she seemed harmless enough. You know, that's interesting
that other people would see what you've seen and there was already known about it,
wasn't it. Well? Yeah, and I think, as I say,
it was a cotton mill and a lot of children used to get caught
under them, didn't they, of course, unfortunately. And I wonder if
she was maybe a victim or something. I don't know, Yeah, possibly,
But she looked as solid as a real child. I didn't touch her,
obviously, but she looked solid to me, you know. And I've
had that happen twice. The other time was I didn't put this in my
book. Actually maybe I should have done. I was at the Tower of
London, you know, and there are lots of cherish and people, and
I completely lost my son's than my husband, and I was getting a bit
panicky, you know, because I get a bit anxious, you know,
in crowds, because I have I'm slightly on the autistic spectrum, I think.
And anyway, I just thought of I wait here, maybe they'll come
and find me. And I sat down on this bench and turn, you
know, you just turn around, like you were saying, and then there's
nothing there. And then suddenly there's someone there thing yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this woman just suddenly seemed to appear from no one. I thought,
where have you come from? She just seemed to be there. I
didn't hear her coming or anything. Quite a big lady, and she was
dressed in an old fashioned wolf dress. She had a cap on her head,
you know, like the maids used to wear, but just a plane,
plain wool dress. And she looked as solid as you or I.
And she she started to initiated the conversation, which was strange. She said
to me, she said, oh, don't worry. You look worried.
What you're worrying about? I thought, well, low, do you know
I'm worried for a start. After and then I just said, well,
I said I've lost my sons and they were only little. Then I said
I've lost my husband. And you know what she said to me. She
said, oh, don't worry. She said, they're in the tower playing
with the swords, because apparently they leave all these weapons and things out,
you know, just blunt once for the kids to play with. But I
didn't know that. I'd not even been up there. And she said,
oh, you know what boys are like, she said, to just having
a little sword play up there. And I said, oh, I said,
boy, Oh you're right, and she said, oh I am right.
She said she was adamant she was right. And then she said,
oh, don't worry, they'll turn up soon. And she said, I
look after two boys. She said, I know what boys are like,
and then off she sort of walked, and she did walk away. But
you know when she arrived, I didn't see her arrive, is what I'm
saying. And I just assumed that she was one of the staff, dressing
up as in all flash and clothing, you know, that she was just
one of the staff at the tower of London Place. And then as soon
as she'd gone, who would come down the steps of the tower but all
three of them, And I said, where have you been? I said,
I've been looking everywhere for you. To my husband, I was more
across with him than anything, because he just wanders off as well. And
he said, oh, we've been in the tower and they've been playing with
the swords well, and I just thought, wow. And then that's seal
evidence, isn't it. Well it is really And then I made a point
of asking as I was leaving, is it is it a dressing update for
the staff? You dress up in the old fashioned clothes? And she said,
well, we do, but we're not today, not today, it's
just every day. She said, we do on special occasions, but not
today. And I told her and she said, oh, you know,
she said, I don't know what to make of that because I'm quite new
here, but she says, I'll find out for you if you want,
And I said, oh, don't, it's all right. I said,
these things happened to me and I just left it, you know, fascinating.
Yeah. You do you ever sort of go on ghost hands, you
know, you get the ghost clubs and things. Do you ever do anything
like that? I would love to join a ghrst tunk club. It doesn't
seem to be anything like that unless I'm I might be wrong there though,
because I know that there is quite a lot of history here in Carlisle wealthy
that they do do ghost on something. In fact, I came up to
Carlough that it was a Scottish ghost company that invited me up. There's a
castle with the Carlisle Castle we went to. It's very haunted Mary Queen of
Yes. Yeah, I've been in it, but not at nice, I
have to say, but I didn't like the atmosphere. But I did go.
Saying that. I did go to Edinburgh on a weekend citybreate with my
husband and we went on a ghost walk and I didn't see anything, but
I got I felt something touch me, something pushed me, and it pushed
me into the guide. So I went careering into him and he said,
you're not the first one that's happened to and that's all they said. And
he was laughing. He said this is something pork and I said yeah,
and he said come nearer to me. He said there's something mischievous here and
that's all he said. And I thought, oh wow, Well it would
put me, wouldn't it. Yeah, I'll have to put you in touch
with the Scottish ghost company I would look to. Yeah, i'll send I'll
send you a link for that and a chat with them because obviously they do
heavy events that go around Scotland. You do you ever know of any sky
watches around you? I mean, maybe I should form a SkyWatch club because
apparently Cumbria is a real hot spot. This journalist interviewed me. He said
Cumbria gets more than its first share of UFO s as it happens or No.
Malcolm Robinson, have you heard of him? No, I haven't known
what. He's written several books about UFOs and also the paranormal. I'm sure
you'd have a very interesting conversation with you. But he actually moved back to
the Scottish He actually moved back to Scotland fairly recently because he was living in
Hosting Hastings down you know, in my neckad of woods. Basically all right,
Yeah, he's several books in the case the UFO Case Files of Scotland.
You want to check those out on Amazon, and the Paranormal Case Files
of Great Britain. I would like to look at the Malcolm Robinson is welcome.
Malcolm Robinson. Yeah, all right, he's actually doing a talk on
a on a cruise line at the moment. Yeah, and you wrote a
book about the death woods Ufo incident as well. All right, so yeah,
it's a very rough chap actually, Malcolm. And I'm sure, I
mean, he's obviously not too far from you what I thought. I mean,
I know Scotland's quite large, but so I think in the scheme of
things, it's not too far away. No. Well, the dearest place
towards is Gretner. You know, it's quite fish there's a lovely big shopping
place there and there's the blacksmith shop and Borge. That's sounds like a sort
of attraction. People go there, you know, still to get married.
But because he's just slightly over the border just after yeah, yes, just
over the border. Yeah. It would take me probably in the car about
fifteen minutes to get to Greta, that's all but dunfrees So where my dad
is from is about an hour away, so that's a little bit further where
my dad's Ciders family are from. Yeah. No, I'll send you some
links with Malcolm. You were just sending my friends with course he might have
been on your frame for a list already. You never know, we might
be Yeah, yeah, i'll try. I'll have a look. Yeah,
thank you. So I'll definitely do that. But I mean so so if
you'd like to get on some ghost hands, I mean, I'll told as
I said, I'll send you some links for that. But I noticed at
the back of your book, because a bibliography, you pronounce it. Yes,
that's right, yes, and it's You've actually referred to quite a few
different people like Doloris Kennon. That's right. Have you read a lot of
post stuff. I've read the free waves of volunteers, you know, going
back to you, we mentioned about reincarnation. I postulated in my own book.
Then I might actually be a volunteer incarnator here because in other words,
that I've volunteered at this time to interact with ets and tell my story for
the reason being that we need, I think to be or rather we're coming
into a greater awareness that we're no longer alone in the universe, especially with
all these whistleblowers coming out now in America and Groof and his like coming out,
and you know, I think there's a sea change happening as we speak
in the UFO community. So I actually wondered if why I was kind of
prompted to come out now at this time was all planned all along and I'm
some kind of volunteer, you know, walking I've actually postulated that. Don't
know whether that is the case, but I certainly believe in reincarnations. So
cool to me. The next ord this you mentioned Bad Hopkins. Now,
Bad Hopkins was very much involved in the people that the ad actions. He
was. Yeah, I actually wrote somebout Hopkins. He was the first person
I ever opened up to about what had happened to me. And I wrote
him what all the things that had happened to me around the year two thousand,
just after the millennium here? And he wrote back to me, he's
not with us anymore, but he wrote a very sympathetic letter back to me.
It took ages to get to me from New York because it did you
didn't have the internet then and things like that. And he was very sympathetic,
you know, and it made me feel better that somebody understood at least
didn't sort of dismiss me some kind of nutcase. Do you know Peter Robbins
at all? No, I've heard of him. I mean, I can
put you in touch with Peter Rubbies and maybe you'd like to do a show
with him, because he's got a radio show it goes out from the States.
Well, just goes out from the States as well, but oh,
thank you, Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, if he would
be willing. As I say, he was a good friend of bad Hopkins
as well, so you could probably have a good Well. I've read both
of his books. The one that resonated with me was A Sight Unseen Intruders
and in that book he Unknown Intruders or something it was, I can't remember
the exact title. And he said in that book he postulated about these pocket
dimensions, you know, because he talks about people being taken from busy beaches
and busy places, and he postulated in that but that they can opten up
like a pocket dimension, so that nobody sees what's happening. That is interesting,
I think, because I think that's happened to me. I really do.
I'm convinced of it. Yeah. I've got three of his books,
the Sight Unseen, if I can, You've got Science UFO in Physicility and
trans Gens yeah, with Carol Rainey. Yeah, yeah, and yes he
did. And the nurse that I saw in Cyprus, certainly she looked like
a hybrid. Do you know what I mean by that? Yeah, very
big. I feel like that he captured a really well my friend looks.
She looks a lot better now than what my drawing was, you know,
it was very very similar to what she did look in reality. That yeah,
so well. The next one I mentioned is a doctor, Roger Dia.
Now he was obviously involved a lot in the Idian implants. Do you
think you might have an Adian implant? Do you know if anythink that's yes
a bit strange? Yeah, no I do, but I'm a bit of
a coward about getting it further investigated. But I set alarms off a lot
when i'm security alarms in supermarkets, in shops. In fact, when I
was in New York, it was so embarrasseding went in this clothing shop and
we came out and I set it off, and the guard chased me and
he insisted on searching my bag. There's nothing there. And when I'm coming
through a port, security off and set off the Even though I take every
piece of jewelry that I'm wearing off because I know what to expect now,
I'll still set it off. On one particular time, this guard was waving
something across my knee, and every time she waved it over my knee.
It set it off, and she said, well, she said I'd had
a knee implant, some kind of metal implant or something. I said,
no, not that I'm aware of, I said, And she looked at
me like I was some kind of loon and waved me through in the end.
But I think there's something in money, and it's in it's in my
right knee. I can even tell you which news I told you, not
how to investigated at all. I haven't some bit of a coward unfrightened.
No, I mean you don't have to have dug out with it. Well,
you could maybe get some X rays done and to have a look at
couldn't you. I don't know how you do that? How would you do
that? Well? I guess, oh yeah, I suppose you need to
know someone's got him. Yeah, I guess, I say, Roger lianm
what have been able to help you there? But unfortunately that's a bit late
as well? Now I know, I know, I've just I just keep
setting things off. So another interesting name that's on this big, big blog
is that Mike Orum. Does it rain in other dimensions? Oh? Yes,
he's a good friend of mine, is he? I met him through
about ten years ago now in the yeah woman stuff. Yeah, he's a
nice guy. That's where he was born. Yeah, yeah, his story
is quite amazing about his UFO e ben Uh. Another person that may be
able to be of use to help for you is actually Mary Rodwell. Yeah,
why do you say that? Sorry, I'm just kidding. Has she
has she? Have you actually spoken to her at all? I didn't get
a chance to at the Awakening next book because every time I tried to a
huge Q you know, so I couldn't. Really. Well, I'll try
and put you in touch with her because I actually talked to her quite often,
and that she will actually be someone that will probably be interested in your
case as well. Yeah. For what reason do you think would she?
Well, because she's she's very much of the same story that the sort of
sort of stories that you've been coming out with, you know, the abductions
and out of body experiences and the Plaudian thing, and you know it's when
she's written several books about the new human and the one you've got written down
here Awakenings. We'll actually try and put you in touch with Mary because I
think you would probably be a lot of help to you. Well, why
I took an interest in a book Awakenings is because when I was pregnant with
both my boys, I was taken. And I know I was because with
both boys and I encountered a great right in front of me ready to take
me. When I was in about my middle trimester with Christopher, and when
I was pregnant with Adam, I was put back in the kitchen and I
woke up under the table in the kitchen in the early morning hours. And
both my boys are on the autistic spectrum, but they're both extremely clever and
have never needed to try at school or anything. They've breezed through exams.
They both got distinctions at degree level. My elder son is extremely clever,
and there's one time they were both classs gifted children. And I'm not extremely
clever. My husband isn't either, even though he's a doctor. He has
had to try really hard and you know, seriously swat for all these exams,
whereas my boys just have these like photographic memories. And I remember one
time I went to Adam's parent to evening and his teacher said, you know,
she said, you think Adam isn't listening and he's staring out the window,
and you think he's daydreaming, she said. And one day she said,
I said to Adam what I've just said, she said, and he
repeated everything back to me. I'd finit that I just said, and she
said, I thought he wasn't paying attention, and he was. And it's
like they've got photographic memories. And I just wonder if something was done to
them in the womb, you know, I don't know, yeah, or
if they are what Mary Rodwell would call crystal children, is it. Yeah,
I'm wondering if they are part of this way for volunteers as well,
because they've always been instinctively really good people. And I don't mean like self,
rightis when I say that, I just mean like my eldest. He
won't even kill a fly. May I'll just squash a fly if it's annoying,
but he will he thinks that sacrilege. You'll get it under a glass
and paper and go to the effort to put it outside. And they've got
every all life. It's like valuable, he says to me. And he
tells me off if he doesn't like sprays of any kind. He says,
the poisonous to the air, and he's really eco conscious. It was like
he was born that way. He's always been that way since he was little.
And You're wonder, you know, what what was this coming from?
Yeah, and you just think he comes out with ideas that are way ahead
of our time. And he'll tell me about things I have no idea.
I really struggle to understand what he's talking about. Wouldn't it be great if
we could do this or that? And You'll go into quite quite a length
of telling me about something, and I'll say, yeah, but we haven't
got that technology available towards yet, Adam. And I'm always having to say
that to him. And I think, has he come from a more advanced
civilization to incarnate into hours to help at this time? You know, because
the things he comes out with, I tell you, it's amazing. M
hm. You know. He talks things that are in the realms of quantum
physics, you know, dar trek, like things that we just haven't got
heads around yet. Do you know what I mean? Yes, certainly.
I mean I think that a lot of the TV shows actually tell you a
bit about what's going on anyway, you know, Yeah, yeah, like
the hidden Truth, And I mean the thing that a lot of the matrix.
For instance, you've seen so much now that sort of you can relate
to the matrix nowadays. You know, I don't have that. It's called
very deep subjects. Yeah. Yeah, but he'll say things like that,
the aeroplanes are really primitive. Now he said this, and he'd want to
be about six years old when he said to me, Mummy, you know
this is a very primitive form of transport, don't you, mummy? Wow?
And I looked at him and I said, well, what would how
could you do any better? And he said, well, he said,
for a start, he said, you don't need to keep using all this
kind of petrol and all these oil based bules. This is at six,
you know, in engines, he said, it's all redundant. Really,
he said we should have moved on from this by now. And he used
to get really angry about it. Yeah he still does actually, and he
said we should be using teleport and portals. Wow, that's really for a
six year old. So he doesn't come up with things like that. You've
been coming out with this since he was a young child, you know.
So to me, if I could talk to Mary, maybe she could throw
some light on maybe yeah, definitely, will definitely put your touch with her
almost and I'll say that you'll be getting to touch and I'm sure you really
the only thing is in Australia, So it's not really good guy. Couldn't
we Definitely? Absolutely? I mean he is now this same child, I
say, child is twenty three as my baby still will but he still gets
really frustrated. And he says to me, he's even said to me,
there's an embarbo on the truth And I said, well, I could have
told you that. Yeah, And he says, there's things being hidden that
are going to come out in my lifetime that you will be amazed by month.
So I don't know what he means. He says things are going to
change a lot. I mean, I don't know how you see it.
Well, I think there is a mess of weakening going on. Oh definitely.
There's a lot of people still asleep, but there's been a mess awakening
since over the last three years. I've seen a lot of people that have
changed the working up. Actually, when you say woken up, do you
mean woken up to to the to the of what's the mainstream media come out
with. Oh? Yeah, definitely. The way they're all manipulated and everything's
based on fear. And I mean, I think COVID walk a lot of
people up and that wasn't their intention, was it. But it's spectacularly If
it wasn't. We don't a lot to use that word on the show.
So it does come up quite a lot anyway. Yeah, but you men,
I didn't anyway, you know, it's all right, but I think
that did work a lot of people. Yeah, And I tried to convince
my husband that it was being used for fear purposes. Absolutely, Yeah,
it wouldn't believe me. It's nice to hear you say that again and put
it out on the show. It's good because I instinctively felt it was being
pumped by the mainstream media. And now they're using this Israel war, aren't
they. Now they're making fear around that. Well, yeah, there's a
lot of things they've got to cover up, haven't elder lies. There's there's
a lot of things that have been coming out, and I think they're covering
up a lot of lies with this sort of thing that's going on. And
I don't know where it's all going to have developed, but we have to
wait to see. Well, the latest thing as well, is that the
West is heading towards bankruptcy. Have you heard that one? Well, the
West has been bankrupt for years. Yeah, well that's another one. There's
no such thing as money in actual facts. Definitely not got any clause.
But no, that's another massive story that is so deep. It's oh yeah,
I mean the West has been bankrupt for years and we were always living
on borrowed money. But that's a whole other subject that we could get into,
and because things about none of us actually have any debt in actual facts.
But anyway, a big, big subject. But my son kind of
came in a way. What I was trying to say was from being a
small child in who there was something badly wrong with this world. He still
does and the things he says, you know, I think, my god,
was this coming from it's so wise beyond his years, you know,
or was I would love to talk to Mary about that. Yeah? Yeah.
Has he not going on any shows or anything to talk about his what
he believes in and everything? That would be quite quite interesting. No,
he hasn't. Well, he's a bit shy though. If I asked him
to probably say no, because he's he's because he has, do you know
they called it aspurges, they call it neuro diversity. And he shrinks away
from He likes to stay in his comfort zone issue, and I said,
you should try and push yourself out of your comfort zone a bit. I
try and push him out of it. But he hates talking and interviews and
things. It's like, yeah, I mean, I know what you're saying.
Yeah, really will not the one that I like to be questioned about
anything myself. So yeah, well yeah, I wouldn't say he's great at
conversation either, unfortunately, but then again his dad isn't, so I could
see where he gets that from. It's been fantastic talking to you. Your
book is called Phantoms in the Night or ets with a question mark, and
it's my lifelong experiences or experience of contact with the parer and normal and that's
the rain mckaddam. And you can find that on Amazon. And is that
the only place you can get it on Amazon? You can also get it
at six Books in that's my publishers publish. Yeah, yeah, And it's
also available on some minor ebook sites. It's on Waterstone's e book site as
an e book. I discovered last night when I googled it, so if
you just google it, it comes up on several sites, but I can
send you the main ones if you like. The links once to come off
here, yeah, and I'll put them on the Paranal Dimensions page so I
can come and look and see it. And if anyone was to get in
touch with you, can they Yeah, they can email me at right at
the back of my book. There's an email there anyway. It's ditsy all
lowercase letters ditsy D I T S y ten the number ten all together now
spaces so ditsy ten at gmail dot com. And they can email me there.
You know, I'll send you that anyway if you like, I'll send
you that as well. Well. I've got it in the back of the
book here anyway. So oh right, so you could see it there,
Yeah, I did actually see it earlier. What you said about I said,
I was just friends. Oh I found it now, you're I was
frantically looking for it. Yeah, yeah, or they can. I'll send
you my Facebook page link to the book page. They can call. They
can contact me there. Of course, they could send me a message,
so you know, if they want to. You're under the rain McAdam on
Facebook. Look, yes I am, yes, my profiles yeah, well
so hopefully people will hunt you down and but as I said, I we'll
send you those links anyway. And I hope it's been great talking to you
and I hope to get to meet you again sometime. Yeah. Same here.
Yeah, hopefully we might meet at the expoor next year again. Yeah,
but I will get you in touch with Welcome and Mary maybe the Scottish
Ghost Company and thank you. Yeah, you might find something interesting going on,
I hope, so that'll be nice. Yeah, I'll let you go
the other Ray. Thank you very much for coming on the show. It's
been great talking to you, and best of luck for the future. Thank
you. Hope to see you talking at some local events maybe. Okay,
all right, take care of yourself, Okay, thank you, thank you,
not night, bye bye bye bye, thank you bye. Thank you,
Lorrain. It's great having you on the show. Right. My next
show, I've got a special coming up on the sixth of November and it's
with Michael Feeley and Michael will be featuring with some other great guests including David
like at the Iconic Special in December. So Michael will be telling us all
about that. It's an exclusive, so I hope you'll join me for that
one. It's a special Monday, the sixth and November. In the meantime,
if you'd like to get in touch with me at any time, my
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That's David Young two q in at yahoo dot co dot UK. So until
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one, Michael Feely Special. I'm really looking forward to that one, as
I do for every show. I'll speak to you then, bye bye everyone,
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