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What is going on? Clippers fans? Happy playoffs? It's here, It's

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upon us. We can all start
freaking out for real now. I am

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Chuck Walckler, joined by Adam Oslin
Will up like, welcome to clips of

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dip it's season two, episode sixty
eight. If you're listening to us,

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YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. Like I said, I am Chuck

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Walckler, Adam Will How are you
guys doing. I'm stressed. We're gonna

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get into all of it soon,
but I'm very excited for this matchup.

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Yeah. I mean, there's just
one key thing that we're gonna talk about

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that, you know, basically makes
this from being like a scary but fun

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matchup to just a whatever matchup.
Straight up scary matchup would be the alternative.

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Yeah, how are you doing now? I'm in that place with you,

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not literally, figuratively, like worried
about that one thing, sure,

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as I happened for a couple of
weeks now, So yeah, got a

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garbage bag on the back of your
chair? Oh, I normally take that

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off. It's just because I got
back from the gym, which my chair

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is a it's my kill room,
the Dexter kill room. Sure, it's

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uh. I usually put it on
there because I got back from the gym

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when I was all sweaty and you
gotta take care of your stuff? Did

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you lift right a little bit before? Yeah? Get repped up. It's

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playoffs. Love that so we I
mean we mentioned it already. We we

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have to. We got to.
There was some Kawhi news today update.

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I think, right, that's a
fair it's an actual update. Should we

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play it? I got it right
here because here comes here? No?

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Hell yeah, dude, let's bring
it back from moving backwards. Yeah,

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stop screensharing. Here was coach Lewit
practiced earlier? Today? Is a fully

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practiced there? No, not fully, but he's gonna be a quart of

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practice thause you know the difference when
Luke is off the floor, a different

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pace they play with when Kai is
at the at the hell yes, how

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much of practice you do? He's
he gonna do a quarter of the practice.

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I just mean, like running just
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it more just because he hasn't played
so long, Yeah, very very long,

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snow like a ramp up, Yes, sir, Will that ramp up

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result in him on the court Sunday, We'll see. How about James's foot.

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Let's get he's so tired of these
questions, it's so fun. His

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smirk when he says a court of
the practice is so that actually like that

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actually gives me a like I'm actually
relieved by that, okay with smirk because

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he doesn't seem totally dejected through the
whole thing, like we've seen Tyleru when

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the cards are down, and I
don't want to say that he doesn't have

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a poker face, but you could
tell many times that the man is thinking.

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And so I think just that element
of like I mean, it's probably

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the way the quotes came out,
it seemed like it was definitively a quarter

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practice, and I realized that's what
he said. But the way he smirked

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means like it feels like he put
an arbitrary number on it, and that's

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that's what it is. So I
think realistically, like I mean optimistically,

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realistically, you know, he he
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of complete I'm not sure, but
this is better than no news. And

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I think, look, I think
it makes sense if they are still managing

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the inflammation to not firmly commit to
him playing on Sunday, especially. I

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mean, if there's any question in
your mind, you know, you can't

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really say the opposite. I'm gonna
say what I've been saying for people wondering

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why aren't they saying whether or not
he's gonna play in game one? Why

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don't we have more clarity on this? Where's the transparency? It's probably because

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they don't know, because Kawhi doesn't
even know, because he has to see

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how he responds now to playing in
twenty five percent of a practice. To

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me, that's obvious, like it
has to be about his body and the

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way he responds. And you wouldn't
throw him into a full practice even if

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he was feeling great yet, because
he was just coming off of having this

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information. So people making smart Alec
jokes and stuff on Twitter and saying,

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oh, twenty five percent of a
practice? Run down your top run down

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your top five favorite smart alec jokes
about the Kui situation. I don't know,

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Chuck was saying some stuff earlier.
I don't know. I was so

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long I just said, I don't
know what I said. It's good,

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so it's good that he's practicing.
I just don't know what twenty five percent

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of a practice isn't I'm telling you, I don't think that's a definitive number.

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I know, but it's just what
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is doing some of practice. They
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mean. He didn't give clarity on
that, which no one. I'm glad

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the question was asked, But I'm
with Will. I'm a little bit more

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optimistic about this now because if he
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than a week to go, oh
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towards Okay, he's really not coming
back for Game one, right, Absolutely,

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this is so much better than him
not being at practice. Because people

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were freaking out about to Mayor.
People were adding Till Mayor a bunch like

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where's Kawhi and he's like, I
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can't be serious, and he's like, why are you chill out? And

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then we got the news that Kauai
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I don't know, they're probably going
to practice Thursday, maybe tomorrow,

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but yeah, we just have to
wait. But it is better than not

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practicing. It's all about how that
right, and he responds at this point

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it has to be because if this
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and it sounds like that's the case, he's been at two shooter rounds,

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we've known that this would lead you
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more strenuous being at a practice than
a shooter round. We'll see tomorrow if

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I don't know if they're having a
mediate or anything like that, but I'm

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guessing over the next couple of days
we might get an update over how Kawhi

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Leonard has looked since that first practice, and I would expect it to be

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semi koi as well. So if
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it's gonna be more like, I
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this point. From the Clippers,
well, it's getting to a point where

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they don't know and can't know at
this point, so Dallas is probably legitimately

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thinking he might not play, and
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might just naturally hold things close to
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may be where this ends up,
and Dallas is probably going to prepare for,

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of course Kawhi Leonard being there.
But still it's it feels like it's

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gonna come down to finding something out
Sunday. Maybe yeah, yeah, we'll

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know this. Yeah, I think
I think you're right. Definitively, it

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feels like that, who knows.
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Sunday or day before, well,
the games on Sunday, that's the soonest

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we're gonna find out. I mean
probably, I think that's a fair If

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he's questionable on Saturday he's playing,
I would be my guest because a day

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before being ruled out, that would
be like, oh shit, the day

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before questionable, I bet he plays. I lean towards he is going to

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try to play absolutely how that ends
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at, and then how he responds
if he plays in game one, all

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that we can't know about either.
So yeah, but just got to hang

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out. Yeah, and we got
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Jamess is going under the radar.
I'm glad you bring that up because it

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was a little unclear. It was
a little unclear the extent of of how

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much that foot was bothering him.
We know he's taking some accumulated knocks throughout

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the season. I guess I don't
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mind that he would play in Game
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he's ready to go and feeling good
on that, I mean, that's that's

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something good. Absolutely, Yeah,
I totally agree. That's kind of a

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nice segue. We kind of wanted
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little bit. How are we in
hardened given the foot, He's probably gonna

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be gardening Kyrie to start off with, They're gonna find switch, which is

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how can the clips help Harden in
the point of attack defense. We've talked

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about how good he is at the
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there, but point of attack is
something that's been kind of the Clippers thorn

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in the side so far this year. Adam, how you feel about Harden

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on Kyrie? Do you think he's
gonna be guardon Kyrie? Who's gonna be

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on Kyrie? I think probably Terrence
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Luka Dancic I think that's the most
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if you want to put James Harden
on Kyrie. Uh that problematic a guy?

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Is that very good on the perimeter? Yeah, and they're going to

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try to likely hide him. Derrick
Jones Charles was talking about this, but

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he's gonna end up on him.
Okay. I misinterpreted that that he wasn't.

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He wasn't necessarily meaning that that's his
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It's not the white it's not the
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and it's James Harden equal Kyrie.
So when someone on YouTube already asked us

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about pre switching in the comments,
we're not dignifying it with a response.

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Pre switching just gets switched. I
mean, it's a given he's going to

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have to guard other guys than this
primary guy. But will you say I

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think it's gonna be guarding Kyrie.
I thought that's what you meant, my

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bad. I do think it could
be terrorists man on him and then Paul

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George on Luca donas Is to start
things off, and they'll probably try to

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James Harden on. It could be
I mean those two will switch every time

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they throw that screen because either guy
can guard the other. But I think

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Harden will probably be on Derek Jones
Junior. They'll probably try to hide him

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there or PJ. Washington. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm so excited

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for Terrence on Lucas second something to
get it because these two guys do not

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like each other and it's very fun
basketball when they go at it. Yeah,

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we mentioned the screening. Unsurprisingly,
are very effective with the pick and

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roll. Luka Doncicic's fifth and pick
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just in terms of the amount,
and hardwa Hardwood Proxism pointed out something interesting

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about the Clippers defense. The Clippers
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roll including passes this season, which
is hats off to that top ten,

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we'll take it, But they were
tied for seventeenth in defending pick and roll

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ball handler scoring opportunities, which means
basically, like he was saying, they

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tend to get worked by ball handlers
and that is the focus of Obviously,

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when Luca does that. Kyrie doesn't
run as many pick and rolls. He

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runs like half as many per game. But like this, we're going to

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talk about Zoo too like this and
Zoo right here, like this is such

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a huge part that the starters need
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Game one. Yeah, I wonder, and I've heard people bring this up.

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They try to hide zoobots at times
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So instead of Luca calling up Daniel
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onto Aviza Zubots where you would expect
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won't have that. I could see
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a wrinkle that could be smart on
coach lose part. I wonder how he's

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gonna play it to open, if
there's gonna be any kind of feel out

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process right will because we haven't played
them post all their trades. Obviously it's

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not too different of an offensive strategy
from their standpoint, but like it's not

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the same team. It's hard to
look at stats when from earlier in those

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three games in the season. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like

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we talked about, like what do
you consider to be the more real indication

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of who a team is, Like
the Clippers streak before the All Star break

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or the MAVs streak after I don't
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on like strength of competition. The
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I mean the Clippers you know,
guilty of that too in that stretch.

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But it you know who which is
the more real indicator of of what team?

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Uh, both of these really are. And I'm curious how much how

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big is the downgrade defensively with you
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on in this in this matchup than
we have in the previous two to having

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James Harden out there, but on
the other end of the floor, how

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much better is having that like actual
playsetter against I mean, like, look

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what we talked about it. I
mean, the best thing about the MAVs

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is Luke and Kyrie. One of
the worst things about the MAVs is Luke

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and Kyrie on the other end of
the floor. And I know that they

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were I know that they were better. I know that they improved, they

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were what they ended up being top
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seventh or eighth in that like in
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Uh, if you subtract those last
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them. But is that real?
Like you know what I mean, Like

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there's just there's just very real limitations
of of your two best players. And

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while you know, none none of
the Clippers necessarily have like the scoring highs

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or offensive game that that Luca does. They're better on the other end of

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the floor, like they're they're they're
a little bit more well rounded. I

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you know, it's like I said, this is a hard matchup. I

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still like this one for the Clippers
if healthy. It's I mean, it's

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the cat that we always have to
say that everyone always says because it's the

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cabyat for all all teams. Uh
is if all team no, no team

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missing their best player is doing ship. So yeah, I don't know your

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question. Uh. And PG and
Kawhi's offensive usage goes up in the playoffs,

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right, They're not regular season twenty
seven to thirty point scorers. They're

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literally playoff twenty seven to thirty point
scorers. Like when Luca averaged thirty five

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against the Clippers in twenty twenty one, Kawhi was at about thirty three per

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game. He was right there with
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plan was to let Luca go off
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it was part of the MAVs game
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any way, especially in what happened
in Game six where he beat them in

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one of the most magnificent playoff performances
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can both be real right the twenty
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what's happened over the last couple of
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that scenario where they both are and
hopefully everybody's healthy. I still like the

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Clippers. I do. I think
their defense, defensive potential is still much

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higher than the Dallas mavericks defensive potential
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Especially I like that we're talking about
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two guys right there. Every single
time the Clippers play a team with someone

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like Luca or Kyrie, where it's
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we're all yelling at the TV sometimes
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on the defensive side of the ball, you know, Like we see it

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on Clippers Twitter. It's like,
put Luca acts like I think ty We've

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talked about this though, and that
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yeah, that that is your sole
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those guys Like how do you keep
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how you know, how do you
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unless it's like a post thing where
Luca is going to do better, you

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know, like that's your one that's
your one single job. I'm excited to

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watch tylu spam plays that work because
he does that. If something works,

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Tyler's just going to do it again
and again and again until you try and

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until you show that you can stop
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game one that they can find I
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They can find something just to make
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they're really going to have to do
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just in the fact that coach slew
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Even last year. I know they
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Suns. It probably should have won
Game three if not for some ridiculousness at

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the end. But like I don't
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considering what they had. I don't
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I don't think you talk with players
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talent out there on the table when
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he maximized their potential in that series
against the Phoenix Suns. I feel like

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the same thing happened in twenty twenty
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Yeah, Paul George makes some free
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It still could have gone to a
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they were gonna be able to win
that series without Kawhi. I feel good

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about that coaching advantage with coach lou
Will talked about it before. But Jason

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Kidd, he's definitely unproven, especially
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his career. I don't know if
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Mavericks point of view. In fact, most Dallas Mavericks fans do not like

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Jason Kidd. Actually many of them
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lot of them, so there's that
in the Clippers favor. But Also,

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I do want to point out sometimes
it feels like, oh, you have

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this matchup advantage, spam this or
get this guy in the action each and

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every time. It can be more
difficult than that, and especially if you

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don't get to it right away in
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to it late, you're not having
the advantage you should have against them.

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With all that time out there to
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know, you can't let them off
the hook. And that's been an issue

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for the Clippers all see along,
where they take too long to get into

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their offense. I don't expect that
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expect that to be one of the
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to be multiple switches. When you're
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it quickly. You cannot wait till
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it's just not going to be his
lopside of an advantage when they know,

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oh, there's only this much time
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he can't get to the basket at
this point anyway, so I can

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just play the jumper. Tyler.
I think talked about that today as well.

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I think he mentioned they asked about
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part of our identity is getting dour, sets quicker and playing deliberately like

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and stuff like that. You're totally
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see the as Brian Seman calls it, the straw that stirs the drink version

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of James Harden to open this series, because he's been phenomenal when he's very

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when you're at the highs. This
year, he's been perfect for what the

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Clippers need. And I think Dame
played this out on Twitter. In first

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round series, He's never not made
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James Harden, he has a good
first round usually, Like historically he's

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a good first round series. Guy. Didn't he have one of his best

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games when Joelle was out last season? I think so, and he had

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to step up he had against Yeah, he had a bad Game seven,

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but they made it out. But
if the Clippers get to forty spots from

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James Harden, I feel like they're
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the MAVs, you know, they
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but wings they have switchability, like, yeah, they're starting five,

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is like it fits well together.
It does, but they do have two

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glaring weaknesses in theory, at least
I know. I keep hearing Luca and

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Kyrie have been playing better defense and
giving better effort there, but they're still

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not great at it. Luca is
a big body, Kyrie Irving is quick,

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but he's small, So it's just
physical limitations. Yeah, like you

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know what I mean. Like you
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if Kyrie, okay, let's assume
Kawhi Leonard just for a second sake

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of argument is able to go in
Game one. One of the reasons you

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bring in James Harden is exactly for
a playoff series where you can say,

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okay, you got two guys in
PJ Washington and and Derek Jones Junior to

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guard Kawhi and PG. Who's your
third guy now that has to guard James

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Harden. It has to be either
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and that should be the big advantage
the Clippers always have, or many

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times have, because most teams don't
have three really good defenders in the starting

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lineup. You can say the Clippers
have that potential at times, and I've

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had that in the past. That
was one of the big reasons of getting

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Kawhi and Paul George talking about them
as two way superstars and two of the

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best wing defenders of their era.
So who the hell is guarding James Harden

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if they have Kawhi Leonard out there
and they're big three available, well,

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and like, I think a huge
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of the things that like, outside
of like Clippers coverage, I haven't seen

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a lot of people talk about,
but the emergence of Terrence Man as an

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actual legitimate starter is a big deal. Like a guy who can still get

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up and down the floor better than
even a Nick Batoom or a Marcus Morris

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or some of the guys that we've
had in the past, but can be

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a primary defender on another team's best
player and you're not You're entire it's not

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a full body clench, you know, like you trust him those scenarios.

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And I'm not saying that he's necessarily
the difference maker in him the player,

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but the load that that takes off
of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, I

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like, I just don't feel like
that's being talked about enough because he like,

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you know, you can if it
isn't going well, you can switch

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one of those guys on him later
and both of those two being able to

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conserve their energy and James Harden having
maybe some of the lightest lifting he's had

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to do for like, what other
playoff team has he had to do lighter

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lifting? I guess okay, see
when he was a six man, But

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what what other playoff team he's ever
been on has he had to do lighter

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lifting than what he has to do
on this team? Assuming the Clippers are

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healthy. Yeah, and while I
say that, you know PG and Terrorist

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Man are your two primary defenders against
Luca, against Kyrie Irving late in the

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game, it's gonna be Kawhi Leonard
on one of those guys. I'm Paul

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George on one of those guys,
and then you can you can lean into

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offense more. You you don't necessarily
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You could have the Powell Rangers,
Oh, which we're going to talk

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about next segment. Very excited for
that. So I mean a healthy Clippers

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team, you know, I know
that's asking a lot right now with everything

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going on with the right knee of
Kawhi Leonard. But I would feel very

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encouraged about just because of who is
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Then and then he needs to get
to work. He needs to be hit

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the aggressive version of himself that we
have seen a little bit more of as

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of late. Yes, get to
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paint. Go from there. Will
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Luca? A lot of people I've
seen on MAVs Twitter saying that and Clippers

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Twitter have been saying that the MAVs
are probably gonna put Luca on Terrence as

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to kind of hide him and all
this stuff. And I think it was

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La Clippers Film who brought up that, you know, guarding Luca's very big

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too. Making Luca work by cutting
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huge for Terrence Man. He needs
to be more. He's more. He's

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more mobile offensively than either Marcus Morris
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we have success with against the Mavericks. I also think that if things maybe

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go poorly to start this series,
that the first change we see if we

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need someone to crash the boards and
make Luca run around on defense? Is

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that Tyler puts Russ in for terrence
if things are going poorly, I would

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be shot by that at all.
With you, I'm not pro it.

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I'm not seeing it, guys,
I believe I'm not saying I'm not pro

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it again, but I just don't
think like I just don't think having a

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full essentially a four on five every
time the Clippers are playing offense. Like,

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dude, I love Russ, I
like like, I like what he

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does. I like what he's brought
to this team. Come on, let's

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not bullshit around. His defense is
not good enough to offset the other end

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of the floor. It's not that
good. I mean, I'm I'm I'm

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high on Russ defensively. I am. Maybe maybe I'm out to lunch a

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little bit, but I do.
And I've been talking about this series being

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a good matchup for Russ because I
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And earlier today, law Murray asked
Coach Lou, is he kind of

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like your batomb? Now? Could
he be that guy for you? And

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Coach Lou said yes, And I
said, like two months ago, he

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has to be like if he's going
to be a point shooter on two attempts

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per game, Like, I mean, it's not like Watum was taking that

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many. Look, he's no one's
batum, But can he do some of

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those things? Can he fill in
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think he can I do in this
series. I like him in this series

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much more than I would have liked
him against the Pelicans. When you say

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you're on the come, well I'm
not. But Russ's potential in this series,

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but a friend of mine could be
so I yeah, Russ as batoomb

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in the sense that Russ would be
the five with four shooters around him.

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I love that idea, especially in
this series. We'll see what Tyler does

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with that. But we're gonna see
because we're gonna talk about in a sec

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what happens when Zoos sits. Because
there was also some back and forth about

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how the Clippers can go big or
not go big in this series. I

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saw a really interesting point. Oh
can I say one last thing on the

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Russ thing? No, I'm just
kidding. Yeah, I think the more

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I think, the more interesting move
is is Russ in place of the visa

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zoobots in some stretches not to start, oh for sure, But that to

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me is a little bit more interesting
than terns out russ in. I could

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definitely see both. My point just
to uh, the four on five argument,

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I think on offense against a team
like Dallas with two glaring holes at

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point of attack, to me,
I just think there could be an opportunity

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for us because of some of their
weaknesses defensively. I don't know if it

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would be that much of a stress
because normally, yes, I'm all on

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board with I don't want to play
four and five basketball and russ is not

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going to be respected from the outside. But I think you know, I'm

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I'm not bagging Oh yeah, it's
just not his strength what it is.

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I'm with you. I just I
could see it a little bit in this

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series. I'm not saying it like
Draymond Green has been saying it the last

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couple of days on this podcast,
which is like it's so crazy. He's

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like, can we just appreciate how
good he's been in his role for the

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clips, Like I think Adam,
were you tweeting that or someone was tweeting

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that, where it's like he's been
good in his role right now, Let's

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just be happy about that. Like
he's a former MVP, he's a Hall

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of Fammer. Like he's performed well
in his role. He has helped the

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Clippers win. He has helped with
a lot of things on the court.

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Yeah, tbd, I'm not sold
on on the Russ X factor yet.

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Fair. One thing I wanted to
bring up before we do a classic podcast

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ad break there is on two and
three Hoops. They did their roundtable,

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you know, talking Clippers first.
A lot of clips in six, a

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lot of like I got, I
got hyped reading that. Yeah, they

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are our employer, which we must
disclosed, but a lot of clips in

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six our employer. Yeah. But
Eric Oldsgard had a really nice just bit

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about minutes and stuff like that that
I wanted to share. He said,

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I think the postseason minutes redistribution helps
LA far more than Dallas. Lucas already

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at thirty seven and a half minutes
per game, the same as his historical

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postseason minutes, and Kyrie's at thirty
five, typically hovering around thirty six in

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the playoffs. On the other hand, the trio of Kawhi, PG and

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Harden, we're all at thirty four
point three what are the odds, and

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all three typically ramp up at or
near thirty nine minutes. This means LA's

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rotation will significantly and fundamentally improve,
while dallases might only improve on the margins.

404
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,079
I thought that was a great point
because we talk about one of this

405
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,200
is with Lucas. As the series
goes on, he's fucking tired. He

406
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,240
has like a thirty plus usage percentage
in every playoffs. He's exhaust He's tired

407
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,720
by Game six or seven or something
like that. Adding those minutes, I

408
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,279
like that point of it breaks the
Clippers way in terms of how minutes get

409
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:21,160
redistributed in the playoffs. Yeah,
people have been pointing out throughout the season.

410
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,039
You know, once Kawhi and Paul
George are playing forty minutes in the

411
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,880
playoffs, we're less worried about the
defensive issues that have been going on.

412
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,319
Now it's going to be very different
now. I do wonder the difference for

413
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,039
Luka Doncic when it comes to tiring
out, because I believe he shot under

414
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:41,400
thirty percent in the fourth quarter of
that series in twenty twenty one, and

415
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,079
it worked the Ropo dope against him
and eventually got to him, but he

416
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,119
didn't have another guy handling the ball
like Kyrie Irving will be. So how

417
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,000
much does that take some of the
scoring load off of his plate and keep

418
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,440
him fresher, Because I'm sure that's
one of the big strengths they have and

419
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,400
one of the reasons they brought in
Kyrie to not have Luca wear down as

420
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440
much in a series. I'm guessing
yeah, that is why you get like,

421
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,720
what did Lucas say today? What's
different this year against the Clippers?

422
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:14,599
They have Kyrie? You know.
But I'm gonna flip it because I've said

423
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,599
this before and I know it could
sound crazy, but there are times where

424
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,599
I almost feel like Luca not having
the ball in his hands and being in

425
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,480
anyone else's hands because of how good
he is, I will take I mean

426
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,519
almost anyone in the league, almost
anyone in league history, even someone like

427
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:37,240
Kyrie Irving, Like, I almost
feel okay about that. As long as

428
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,720
his jersey's tucked in. I feel
better. If his jersey's untucked, then

429
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:45,359
I get scared, all right?
Coming up, need Tucker. Yeah,

430
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,960
we haven't even talked about BJ Tucker
yet. Coming up, we're gonna talk

431
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:56,039
kind of what I think is probably
the maybe most important thing. What happens

432
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,519
when Zubat sits in this series.
For audio listeners, there's gonna be some

433
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,839
ads. They've been loud for some
people. Go ahead and turned down if

434
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,640
that's been your case. We're talking
what happens when Zoo sits coming up in

435
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,680
three two one. Hey, welcome
back into Clips and Dip. We're just

436
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,519
kind of we're dipping our toes into
this Clippers mass preview. I believe this

437
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,079
is part one. I think we're
to you again with a part two on

438
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Thursday. But right now Charles wants
to know a little bit about what happens

439
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:30,880
for the Clippers one of Viza Zubats
sits. There was talk today at practice

440
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:35,640
a Vitza Zubats said to law Murray
that he doesn't expect the Clippers to be

441
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,640
able to play small as much in
this series compared to pass meetings with the

442
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Mavericks in the postseason. And then
you're big though, isn't that what you'd

443
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,440
say every time too? Oh yeah, I'd be like, I honestly think

444
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680
I might have to run. I
don't think small is gonna work. Yeah,

445
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,079
some mistakes and it's small ball light
up, Zo's a politician now.

446
00:32:53,519 --> 00:33:00,079
But then our favorite French Canadian reporter, Justin Rousseau, asked, you finally

447
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,279
got it right? Any mass fans
are listening to this, we've already dropped

448
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,759
like ten inside jokes that you only
get this podcast. Also, I guess

449
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,279
you have to go back and listen
to everyone guys from the start last year.

450
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,200
Justin Rousseau, Justin Rousseau, a
fantastic Clippers reporter. Welcome to all

451
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,880
the new people watching as well.
He asked tyleru at practice if he echoes

452
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,319
of Eats Zubat's sentiment that this series
is one of the Clippers won't be able

453
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:30,119
to play as much small or if
it'll be game by game. Lu said

454
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,319
game by game, so surprised he
didn't say, I forgot. Yeah,

455
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,200
I don't know. I don't know
what is smallma, But this had me

456
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:43,920
thinking, like what is going to
be the plan again? Like what are

457
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,039
you guys thinking when Zeus sits who's
coming in game one? I don't think

458
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,400
it's Mason Plumbley. I don't think
we're running that out in game one to

459
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
like see if he can be effective, right, I think Tye is ahead

460
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,720
of Plumbley because of the year he's
had. He's had a better year.

461
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,440
But I also think it's a good
matchup for a matchup. For sure,

462
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,000
they're bigs, aren't huge, they're
athletic, but he has better defensive principles.

463
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:12,199
Mason Plumbley is the better he's the
bigger body, but Daniel Tice is

464
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,960
I think overall in position, more
often in the right spot, and against

465
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:22,559
this Dallas team where it's not like
they're throwing a bunch of seven foot guys

466
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:27,760
at you. They don't even have
bowban anymore. But I think Daniel Tye

467
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,039
has earned it and is the smarter
choice. And he's almost like a small

468
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,280
ball five. He's six' nine, Like, we're not talking about a

469
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,159
guy who's like a towering center.
He's an undersized center. Shot thirty eight

470
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,719
percent in the season for the Clippers
show he did how many eight? I

471
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,960
think it was closer a two hundred, but I could be wrong. So

472
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,920
I was looking at the most played
lineups without Zoo or Mason Plumbley at them.

473
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:58,800
Uh, this year for the Clippers, there's not a lot. It's

474
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,800
not a lot of minutes. The
most played was Russ Kawhi, Norm Coffee

475
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,039
and Tice ninety eight minutes plus six. That actually feels like a lineup we

476
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:22,159
would maybe see from Tye second most
played Russ Harden Norm Coffee Tye seventy one

477
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,519
minutes minus fourteen on those minutes,
which is a little interesting, and then

478
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:30,119
everything else is below sixty five minutes. So I think you're right, Adam.

479
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:35,599
I think Tyson is maybe checking in
first for the Bigs. I don't

480
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,480
think we're just going to straight up
go small small with a power forward.

481
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:47,760
Well you think they won't Dallas,
for Dallas may goes small at times with

482
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,480
PJ Washington or Maxi Kleiba at the
five, and I think coach Loue would

483
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,639
be very comfortable with that with countering
that they According to Nick Engstat, host

484
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:06,039
of lock on MAVs, Uh,
PJ and Maxi small ball plus nineteen and

485
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:10,599
a half net in their minutes together, so they have some effective small ball

486
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:15,320
lineups. One person I've noticed who
MAVs fans do not want to play at

487
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,920
all in this series is Tim Hardaway
Junior. He apparently craters their defensive rating.

488
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,320
He ups it like his defensive rating
with everyone like his mostly blind ups

489
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,599
like a buck seventeen that lineup like
it's like not ideal, which I thought

490
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,000
was interesting because Glippers fans think of
Tim Hardaway Junior in a very different light

491
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:40,800
when it comes to MAVs playoffs performances. But yeah, so, how are

492
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,639
we feeling about this whole Tice small
ball rotation is We've kind of talked,

493
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:49,840
We've alluded to this as being kind
of the biggest question mark for the Clips

494
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:57,559
in this series. Specifically, uh
based upon having Russ now in a mere

495
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,199
Coffee coming off the bench. Two
guys you can use in small ball lineups.

496
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:05,679
Also PJ Tucker, who will definitely
I think get play in this game.

497
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,519
I thought it was interesting he didn't
play too. Yeah, I mean,

498
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,480
if Kawhi is there, I think
you're solid. I think you're good

499
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:16,880
to go small ball. I don't
know how much they're going to because they

500
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,800
have Derek Lively and Gaffer Now and
they might feel like it's a real advantage

501
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,679
to stay big against the Clippers with
those athletes. But if they do go

502
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,440
small, if Kawhi Leonards one hundred
percent ready to go, I don't hate

503
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,800
that for the Clippers. Honestly,
I feel like they'd match up pretty well.

504
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,559
I like Kawt time because now you're
talking about if you if you have

505
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:47,119
a lineup out there that you feel
more comfortable with switching on to Luca onto

506
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:52,519
Kyrie when they're looking for mismatches and
there isn't that big in Zoo or Tice

507
00:37:52,599 --> 00:38:00,440
that they can pick on. That's
advantage Clippers to me. No, No,

508
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,559
I'm just thinking, I'm yeah ingesting
it. I am agreeing with you.

509
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:09,480
We also didn't see staggering like that
much staggering until how late in the

510
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:14,639
season. I mean, like another
thing to consider is both with the increased

511
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,760
minutes loads, but some of these, like some of these bench defensive units

512
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,039
minus Zoo, Uh, there will
be more time obviously. I mean I'm

513
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:27,360
assuming Kwile if help, he's still
be playing full first, but there will

514
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,920
be more time with two of the
three. Yeah, you know, with

515
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,719
any of those lineups, which I
guess James isn't helping you defensively, but

516
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,199
it does help your net rating.
But and depending what's around him defensively,

517
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,079
right, Like what are you putting
him in a position to do defensively?

518
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:43,559
You know, if he's next to
Norm Yeah, don't like that at all.

519
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,880
Paul George will be there. Yeah, yeah, that's true, Paul

520
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:52,639
George and coffee or and what Luca
was doing early on in the series in

521
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,000
twenty twenty one was finding the smallest
guy in backing him down and getting easy

522
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,800
looks. It wasn't just he either
found the smallest guy to back down and

523
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,679
get to the basket against for the
biggest guy to draw him out for the

524
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:08,079
perimeter and eats the Zubats smart of
course, Luca. Yeah, so if

525
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:14,199
he tries that as much as James
Harden can be a liability on the perimeter

526
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,519
staying with quick guys. First of
all, Luka Doncic is not the quickest

527
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:21,360
guy. Kyrie Irving will be a
problem in that area. But if Lucas

528
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400
matches up against him and realizes,
oh, this isn't Patrick Beverly, who

529
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:30,239
was a dog but could still not
hang with Lucas in the post, he

530
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:37,280
got phased out of that series very
quickly. Even Reggie Jackson is smaller than

531
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,280
James Harden. I believe he may
be. I don't know how much experience

532
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,360
he's had against Harden over the last
couple of seasons, but James Harden will

533
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,760
hold his own on the post.
When Luca tries to back him down.

534
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,159
That's not a terrible matchup for the
Clippers. It's I can't imagine. It's

535
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,360
a lot of experience with James Harden
over the last couple of years. My

536
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:05,199
question is, I think the real
question is will coach lou try to throw

537
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,199
out a small ball lineup to force
Dallas to go small? That's what I'm

538
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:13,360
interested in because I do think the
Clippers could have the advantage going small.

539
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,119
So how do you get to that
though? How do you force Dallas to

540
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:20,440
play into your hand a little bit? Yeah, that's a good call,

541
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,119
and that's where again we've talked about
we like the advantage of tyleru verus Jason

542
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:29,760
Kidd with things like that and kind
of throwing wrenches in there, like what's

543
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,000
the best let's say against Dallas is
starting five? What would be the best

544
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,239
small ball five you can put together
to try to make them take Gafford off

545
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:45,519
the floor? How are you constructing
that? I'm a media I'm jumping off

546
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:47,559
what we're just talking about. With
Kauhi at center, you put Kawhi at

547
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:53,760
the five, and you move everyone
down and you bring Norman So Norm Harden,

548
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:02,800
Uh, it's Norman for zoogh Yeah, I mean Norman for Zoo and

549
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,719
then Kawhi plays the five and you
just shift everyone because I worry shooting like

550
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,559
the you're shooting the piss out of
the ball, and there's a lot of

551
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:16,800
activity in the passing lays Normally he
kind of nice as a free safety defensively

552
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,239
this year not elite, I'm not
saying anything like that, but he's in

553
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,800
physical like again physical limitations, it's
not. Yeah, he's had a better

554
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,320
year defensively, and last year in
the playoffs he showed that he could get

555
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,239
back to playing some of that raptors. Yeah, like he Yeah, I

556
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:38,119
do worry a little bit because they
do need the lineup with Norm and James

557
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:42,000
Harden out there. I do worry
a little bit when both of them are

558
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,199
out there though too that Dallas is
constantly looking for him. But I get

559
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:51,599
what you're saying, like if you
lean into the offense there and that could

560
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,760
be the way to force it well, and like you know, what do

561
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,280
you do to maximize the minutes where
Luca is off the floor? And I

562
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,760
think go fucking small, like like
why like why not just roll out your

563
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,239
smallest lineup and just run it and
just run it up, just run around.

564
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Yeah, that's infectively Adam. How
would you do it to get their

565
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,719
starting five? Like? Would you
are you bringing in tuck Wagon for zoom?

566
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:23,039
Uh? No, it wouldn't be
my first choice. I might try

567
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:29,559
something. I might try something with
a Mirror, just because I don't know.

568
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:31,239
I really like the way a Mirror
has been playing the willing shooter with

569
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,960
three pointers. He seems to always
come up big late in games to switch

570
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,639
ability defensively is bigger than Terence good
hustle players lately too, he's been He's

571
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:46,199
been doing all the good stuff.
I might try from biggest to smallest.

572
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:54,320
I guess Kawhi pg Emir James Norm
at some point, Oh, I like

573
00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,280
to wow, we have really good
ideas. That's call time to backup back

574
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:12,119
somebody killing. Yeah. I like
that. I am Yeah. I feel

575
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,400
like we got to look at that
towards the end of the season a little

576
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,000
bit. I'm not a mere coffee. We just talked about how good Terrence

577
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,440
Man has started, and which is
totally true about him being an actual starter.

578
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,960
A mere coffee has had a fantastic
season two and he is doing that

579
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,920
thing and where the bench guys are
all playing coin of Plus we've seen it.

580
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:34,159
We've seen him close over Terrence,
but I can't remember, like call

581
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,519
line up. Yeah, you're right, we've seen and we've seen also too.

582
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,239
I think I know we're talking about
going small, but we're I think

583
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,400
we're gonna see Zoo close in this
series at some point. I don't think

584
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,760
it's I'm not ready to commit to
it. I want to be I'm ready

585
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,679
to get I'm not ready to commit
to that. I'm ready to get hurt

586
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,960
again. I hope that I hope
that that is the case. But if

587
00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:00,639
Zoo's closing, I think things are
going. I mean that's that side deal.

588
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Things are. Yeah, if if
Zoo is closing, I mean people

589
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,159
are like, you're like rubbing your
hands together and it's going all according to

590
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:13,880
plan. I also don't hate Russell
Westbrook and being one and being in one

591
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,239
of these small ball lineups because of
his rebounding play big in the P five

592
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,760
put him at that cog roll right
that we that we saw ective. I

593
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,400
think Russ is going to show some
nasty, gritty defense at times in this

594
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,519
series. I really do. I
think he's gonna be able to uh play

595
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:38,400
up a position of a lot,
and that could be an issue for the

596
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,039
Dallas Mavericks if Russ is locked in, because that's one more guy that you

597
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:46,679
don't necessarily I don't think they're going
to be trying, for the most part

598
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,480
to get a switch with Russ and
to get him on Luca. He's an

599
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,400
annoying ass guy to try and play
offense against. Focused he's gonna, yeah,

600
00:44:55,559 --> 00:45:00,880
like one on one in this series. I'm it's again, It's like

601
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,880
wil said, it's not a full
body clench with Russ out there because he's

602
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480
gonna be playing guys hard. Not
like you said, Luca's not gonna be

603
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,559
able to blow by Russ. I
don't think, I say as seven April

604
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,559
sixteen, I mean like not every
time, right, you know what I'm

605
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:17,880
saying, Like there's gonna be something
He's gonna get him, like he's Luca.

606
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Yeah, but it's not gonna be
as easy. Yeah. I love

607
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,519
that. To keep going back to
that point about the size of the point

608
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:30,519
guards before Adam and I really like
that point. They're bigger than Pat Bev

609
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:35,519
now Reggie Jackson. Yeah, well, overall, their wings are smaller,

610
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,800
they have less of them. The
guys that Luca would go up against and

611
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,480
was always looking for were their smalls
out there? Yeah, Tarrence Man also

612
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
is somebody that he has backed down
a lot. Yeah, that's true.

613
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,960
Terrence gives great effort there. Yeah, and he does everything he can,

614
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:57,239
and he's gonna be playing against Luca
a ton. But Lucas certainly isn't exactly

615
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,559
afraid of him, which is why
I'm kind of interesting. Didn't a mere

616
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,960
coffee made maybe in some late game
situations, because let's say Terriss Man,

617
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,519
he's gonna be starting, he gets
worn down a little bit just so taxing

618
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:13,079
or gets in a foul trouble against
Yeah, it's gonna happen a few games,

619
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,400
I'm sure of that. But I
think Russ is somebody that I don't

620
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,039
know if Lucas should be blown by
or bullying that much on the block.

621
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,920
And I posted the video of that
game. The only game they had against

622
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,360
him at Crypto this year was the
one where late Russ was relentlessly going at

623
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,280
Luka Doncic. When Dallas went small, he just said, go at him,

624
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,679
go at him, and he got
a foul and an a one like

625
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,559
I like the energy I saw from
Russ in the regular season against Dallas,

626
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:45,599
different team, but against Lucas specifically, and that needs to be there in

627
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:51,320
this in this game, that that
fearless attitude because Luca it's demoralizing playing against

628
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,039
him sometimes, just like it is
to play against Kwahian PG when they're doing

629
00:46:55,079 --> 00:47:04,239
it on both ends. Yeah,
I'm I'm encouraged by rust in this series.

630
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,880
I'm hoping. Also, we were
just talking about foul trouble early Zoo

631
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,320
foul trouble. Who then I maybe
get full body clinch. What do you

632
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
what do you want to see?
We talked about maybe going super small,

633
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,280
but like, what do you want
to see in the nine minutes per game

634
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,159
when Luca isn't out there? Like, what is most I'm gonna be off

635
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,639
the floor for nine because I will
sign up for that. Yeah, Kelly,

636
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,239
Yeah, I think he's off the
floor. I think he's off the

637
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,280
floor for five minutes, five minutes. But I want to see you can

638
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,519
win a game in that time.
Yeah you can't. Oh, I mean

639
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,239
That's what I'm talking about. Like, I mean, there's no two ways

640
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,199
around it. Like you you do
need to maximize what your efforts are when

641
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,320
he is not on the floor.
That's how they just beat Denver with Jokic.

642
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,679
I know they didn't have Jamal Murray, Clippers didn't have Kawhi. They

643
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,800
went like plus twelve in the non
Jokic minutes and he only was off the

644
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,760
floor for like six or seven minutes, and we ran some funky small ball

645
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,119
with that led by Russ and harden
I thing together and the mirror was out

646
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,679
there. I think that was a
three man lineup in that game because it

647
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,800
started sloppy and then they got some
deflections and it was like offense to defense

648
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,079
and things were going well. So
I think when Luca is off, that's

649
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:16,239
when we need the Amir Coffee fearlessness
and the efficiency to be there and the

650
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,960
cuts to be there too. I
mean, we're assuming if Luca, whenever

651
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,239
he's off, Kyrie is going to
be on. So what's the best five

652
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:30,159
to corral up Kyrie? Then I
guess a little bit in those time ja

653
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:37,440
zoo uh, I think MOUs is
good to go Kai big size. I

654
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:44,880
would line I would like to count
up how many guys can guard Luca on

655
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,679
this Clippers team and will be guarding
him at some point in the sense of

656
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,960
like guarding lucas you feel okay about
it. Sure, you feel as good

657
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,199
as you can feel. Yeah,
we were not saying these are like the

658
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:04,079
stoppers two and a half. Okay, kawhi, Paul, George Terrence A

659
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,800
mer got you, guys said air
is a bit of a yeah. I'm

660
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,920
okay. Yeah, me and Russ
just asked his stands. We're like this,

661
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:19,480
Oh no, you morph it's the
Morongo commercial morph into uh. I

662
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,920
think I think I think PJ will
get a look against just said who we

663
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:30,239
feel comfortable with him, not who
he will get in the post. That

664
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,159
is very true. I don't.
I don't hate it. I don't,

665
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,800
I don't. Okay, Well,
in terms of feeling okay about guarding Luca,

666
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,800
I think, yeah, I think
you got the three. I don't

667
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,239
know if I have five. You
have the three. A mir I feel

668
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,920
better about Russ than a mirror on
Luca, So yeah, I'll give it

669
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,800
three. Yeah, yeah, yah
yeah, yeah three and three quarters.

670
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:04,679
Just guys that can give him different
looks, waves of defenders that can be

671
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,679
going at Luca, changing levels,
giving him different looks. That's all always

672
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,679
what coach Lou talks about when it
comes to defending superstars and great players and

673
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:19,000
specifically Luka Doncic. That is the
way to just not give him consistently the

674
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:22,320
same defender to look at over and
over again and eventually pick him apart or

675
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:28,280
find a rhythm or getting that groove
like he does seeing a beats Zo does

676
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:35,239
where he gets and we haven't even
turn that around. I don't think it's

677
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,199
his fault, dude, it's just
a mental thing. I think, well

678
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:40,559
Adams talking about this before, there's
just like such a history that the confidence

679
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:49,519
that you make Luca's not hitting ship
well brought up long haired Come on,

680
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,840
dude, long haired zoo Luca would
It's like if he starts just like taking

681
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,400
handfuls of prenatal vitamins right now,
you might be able to get the hair

682
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,320
to like here, how about this
hard and shaves his beard. I think

683
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:06,440
the Clippers win the first game,
no question or beard. Right, they're

684
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,599
looking at keeps the beard, threw
shoot around and everything, so it's like

685
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:12,760
it's all normal. And then just
right when they're when starting lineups, it's

686
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:21,440
just like we're just a big handlebar
mustache. Because my uncle guy would it

687
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,239
be like a wardrobe thing or against
NBA policy to have a fake wag because

688
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,000
like Andre war fake care for a
while. Well you can, you can

689
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:37,400
have extensions, like what's the difference? Very true? Okay, I was

690
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,840
thinking of the old Remember they outlawed
the bandana, the ninja turtle thing that

691
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,880
Mantrez used to wear because o the
No Fun League is what I call the

692
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,079
n b A. Okay. Back
to Will's question though, regarding best lineup

693
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,480
to slow down A lineup without Luca
but with Kyrie on the floor for Dallas.

694
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Uh, I don't know. I
think I thought I gave my answer.

695
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,079
You gotta have Norm out there going
crazy. I mean, you gotta

696
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,440
have Norm out there. You gotta
have a beer out there. Will you

697
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,039
trust Norm to defend Kyrie in some
like limited spots in it? I do

698
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,400
not think so. So do we
want Normal out there? Well, so

699
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,920
you're going, can you strike that
balance where you still have a lot of

700
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,840
offense but a lot of defense?
Like can you find something even better?

701
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,639
Is it the Power Rangers? I
mean that would be great. I I

702
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:37,199
just I don't think you run all
the starters out there when minus Zoo went.

703
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,519
I believe I was just told you
could win games in those five minutes.

704
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:52,400
That's true, you can, I
don't know. You look at a

705
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:59,519
plus minus every night. It's like
Lebron pretty much religiously, relentlessly or consistently

706
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:04,159
throughout his career like ends up being
a plus and that team beat him because

707
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,000
they won the minutes Lebron James wasn't
out there. It happened earlier today because

708
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:13,199
the Pelicans where they went on like
they had an eight They had like an

709
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,159
eight point lead early on in the
first half, and it looked like things

710
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,719
were starting to turn the other way
against the Lakers, and then Lebron came

711
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,599
back in and the Lakers went on
a twelve oh run. It was like

712
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:30,599
that simple Well, what's your what
would your go to be? I mean,

713
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:34,239
I think that's a good time that
that's time to get PJ. Minett's

714
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,280
hopefully he's willing to like take shots
in those minutes. I just think for

715
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,639
like the tempo and just how quick
Norm can swing a game. He's got

716
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,440
to be in any one of those
lineups for me, because the Norm,

717
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,480
like when Norm gets into that like
automatic mode, I mean that's like an

718
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,639
you can have a nine to oh
swing in like the like the blink of

719
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:59,320
an eye. What's the stats to
the Clippers account put out a great norm

720
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,480
for six men end of the year
tweet today kind of just listing what his

721
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:09,480
numbers have been. Second and Clutch
points off the bench like he's yeah,

722
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,639
he what's he shoot? What was
he shooting from free in the fourth this

723
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:20,320
year? At one point for like
two? So I guess I might go

724
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:34,599
So I guess I might go uh
russ norm a mere pg Tucker, I,

725
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:39,559
that's that seems like a realistic possibility
to ye who Dallas goes with at

726
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:45,000
center there and then you have some
versatility at the five, you know if

727
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:50,400
yeah, if you yeah, I
mean you could even do Mason out there,

728
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,559
like if you think like different,
like yeah, do you think we'll

729
00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:00,519
see any Because people were asking about
this after it had been a couple of

730
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,159
times over the last week and it
looked like it was just out of availability

731
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:07,320
and what guys were there and we're
getting the d N P C D,

732
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:12,079
but people are asking about, hey, may some plumbing next to Daniel Tys.

733
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,039
They did it a couple of times
and Daniel Craig afterwards. Dan Craig

734
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:21,280
said it was about availability, but
do you think it could happen or big

735
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,519
next to Tyson this series, not
necessarily plumb, that's not gonna happen.

736
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:29,639
What advantage do you see, I
guess would be my question. Rebounding boards.

737
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,119
Yeah, that's about it. I
don't know. I don't think so

738
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,000
who's the other three? Yeah,
I don't know. I get I mean

739
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:43,679
for the five on four on the
or for the four on five on the

740
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,639
offensive end. So I can't I
can't condone. I looked like an idiot.

741
00:55:49,679 --> 00:56:00,159
Russ Hayder number one, number one
and still the undefeated. There there

742
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,320
was one thing that I wanted that
I kind of forgot to talk about,

743
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,320
and that was Terrence Man is the
role man if Luca is guarding Terrence Man

744
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,159
and then putting Terrence as the role
And it happened very little during the regular

745
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:21,239
season. It was like thirty five
possessions, quite quite few. But that's

746
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,639
the thing I think we'll see in
small ball stuff is maybe more Terrence as

747
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:27,599
a screener or Kawhi is a screener, because when they were running Kawhi as

748
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:31,000
a screener, his points per possession
was like one point two or something like

749
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:37,639
that, which is pretty solid to
great. So the screening is gonna be

750
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:39,599
fun. We're gonna see some weird
stuff from Tyleru, especially in some of

751
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:45,519
these small ball lineups that I think
you all of us have convinced me we're

752
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:51,800
gonna see more of. Despite what
Zi thinks or wants, I just think

753
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,119
there's a good chance Coach lou will
want to get to them and make Dallas

754
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,800
play smaller at times. But if
Zoo's detonated, which I would love sure,

755
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:05,719
and they're featuring him and they're getting
him the basketball because they really need

756
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:13,920
to against smaller bigs that the Dallas
Mavericks have, that that's a path to

757
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,679
victory. That's probably the most likely
path to victory in this series, just

758
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:21,000
to eat the zoobots is able to
play average let's say, thirty two minutes

759
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,000
per wall game, that to me
would be a great sign for the Clipper

760
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:28,440
because if he's played off the floor, Clippers don't really have a lot of

761
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:35,000
options for easy buckets, correct,
you know, like there's not a lot

762
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,039
of there's not a lot of stuff
that doesn't involve your already high usage players

763
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:44,039
doing a lot, which you know, I mean it is the playoffs.

764
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:49,800
That's that's fine, but you got
to have some options for some easier offense

765
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,280
in the course of a series.
And again, the MAVs do have like

766
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,920
kind of a handful of solid small
ball lineups. Yeah, that they can

767
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,159
run, so it Zoo's gonna have
to be on point. He talked about

768
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,920
today to the pick and roll stuff, how he needs to get better at

769
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,320
making sure the rollers not behind him
just going straight to the bucket. He

770
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,039
talked about how the Clippers need to
get to the ball faster and get through

771
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:16,559
screens. So there's some interesting stuff. Tyler's Tyler's cooking some stuff up that

772
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:22,400
I'm excited for. It does feel
like a huge advantage for the Clippers to

773
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,760
having known their opponent for almost two
weeks. You know, Dallas has been

774
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,639
in the five spot for a while. The Pelicans were falling down the standings

775
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:37,559
for a while. I mean they
fell into the plane. I feel great

776
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,719
about that. I'm encouraged by that
from the Clippers standpoint. Should we talk

777
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:51,679
about the elephant in the room.
There's another elephant. There's Operation Dumbell drop

778
00:58:52,559 --> 00:59:00,159
uh, and then let's do it
after this outbreak teasing Adam and let's check.

779
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,280
I don't like the Marvel what ifs, and I don't like this one

780
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,119
either. But what if Kawhi Leonard
is not available? How do the Clippers

781
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:13,039
approach this? All right, we're
going to talk about that after this very

782
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,280
long ad break. It's not gonna
be long, but that was very ominous,

783
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,480
but it's fair allowed ads coming up
for some people. And then we're

784
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,760
talking a big what if. And
then we're talking a little Blake coming up

785
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,719
in three two what Welcome back in
Clips and Dip. I'm at a Maslam.

786
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,679
We got Chuck Mackler and Will Updyke
here listening to a season two episode

787
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,159
sixty eight show. Here. If
you want to check us out, we're

788
00:59:39,519 --> 00:59:45,119
at YouTube or on YouTube at Clippers
podcast at Clippers pod on x is where

789
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:51,079
you find us. Coming up,
we'll talk about Blake Griffin and him officially

790
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,119
retiring today, some of our favorite
memories. But I did have to throw

791
00:59:55,159 --> 01:00:00,920
this one out there because it seems
like we'ren't it doesn't have to be an

792
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:08,199
Earth two possibility. With Kawhi's injury
history and the last three seasons, sure

793
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:13,960
he has not been able to go
or at some point hasn't been able to

794
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:17,599
go in a playoff series because of
that right knee, and it's been troublesome

795
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:22,519
again and at the worst time.
It is unfortunate, It is frustrating Clipper

796
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:24,320
Nation, we get it. Everybody's
talking about it right now, and how

797
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,519
could this be happening at this point
of the season. It is brutal.

798
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:37,400
But let's say he's missing for a
couple of games early on. Can the

799
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,159
Clippers do enough to tread water to
bring hope of him coming back later in

800
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:47,039
the series? And is there a
way to get by without Kawhi Leonard early

801
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:51,599
on in the series, Because this
was one of the reasons when they first

802
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:54,079
got James Harden was you know,
if they have two of the Big three

803
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:59,679
in a series at times they might
be okay to it's possible they could get

804
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:01,719
out of it series. We didn't
know the matchup. Now we know it's

805
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Dallas, but there was a time
where we brought that up during the offseason

806
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:09,360
and then when it actually happened during
early on in the season when they brought

807
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:14,480
in James Harden, that it's a
little bit of insurance in case one of

808
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:19,119
two to one three isn't available.
I mean, just just off the jump,

809
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,320
like this is a way harder series
than last year's, Like even the

810
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:29,480
first two games where we had Kawhi
healthy. I just think matchup wise,

811
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,199
if you don't if you if you
don't have any one of the three,

812
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,800
but specifically Kawhi aside, I just
like they would have to be perfect,

813
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:47,400
and even then it would be difficult. I mean, yeah, lightly to

814
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:52,239
put it lightly. Yeah, who's
starting? I was just gonna say,

815
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:58,599
if it's a mirror, which would
be my guest. I cannot see Tyler

816
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,719
starting PJ. Tucker next to Zoos
because that's usually been the guy, right

817
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:07,199
like in these these late season stuff. But I think it's I don't think

818
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:14,199
it's us. Yeah, because then
you go Russ. I think that brings

819
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:19,360
the most balanced off the bench.
If you look at guys like Norm Powell,

820
01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:23,280
a lot of offense, not much
defense, a mere coffee more defense

821
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,000
than offense. Russ is kind of
that in between where you get a little

822
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:30,440
bit of both. Yeah, I
just get worried. And I know Russ

823
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:36,119
is a bigger guard. That's a
it's still a big MAVs lineup, you

824
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:40,599
know, like we're moving. Yeah, I don't like this hypothetical. I

825
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:44,880
would go a mirror, I guess
for size issues. I mean, and

826
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,559
we have seen that before. So
yeah, I would go a mirror and

827
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:51,760
I would hope that his off ball
cutting was good. I would hope that

828
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,159
his defense is as good as it's
ever been. And then, like Adam,

829
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:59,000
you talked about it, even with
everyone healthy, aggressive James Harden because

830
01:02:59,039 --> 01:03:00,440
if he's going to be handled the
ball, he's got to get everyone into

831
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,239
their sets. That makes things easier, I mean, the pressures, the

832
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,280
good Yeah, and then you got
to get the good playoff. He going,

833
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:15,800
they have a chance, I mean
if no, so yeah, I'm

834
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,239
sorry. The question was, yeah, to tread water, to tread water

835
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,960
like, So, let's say it's
the first two games in LA, which

836
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:28,960
I think it's God damn it,
I'm so tire these balloons. Huh,

837
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,480
you're a sick man. If you're
only listening, you're missing the visual effects

838
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:39,760
absolutely assaulting me right now. I
think even healthy the Clippers, there's a

839
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:45,320
decent chance they split these first two
games the game the series is gonna go

840
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:49,079
yes, if the series is gonna
go six, there's a decent chant,

841
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:52,800
which I think it is, there's
a decent chance they split, Uh this

842
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,519
game, even when healthy. But
I don't think it's crazy to think they

843
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:08,639
could still split without Kawhi. After
that, I get they could split.

844
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:14,880
I think they could split the home
series without, But then again, after

845
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,400
that Dallas and he's still in the
report. Absolutely, if we're if we're

846
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,559
heading to Dallas and he's still on
the report, I'm like, okay.

847
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,960
The other thing is, when I'm
talking about inflammation, the reason he didn't

848
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,360
go on the road trip to Phoenix
was because altitude could affect that. So

849
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:38,679
they can get a Madden bus for
a they'll fly a thousand feet off the

850
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:44,920
ground. They'll just be a straight
long I like your point though about how

851
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:46,639
they could be fully healthy and it
could still be a split after the first

852
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:51,519
two games, and it's still possible
that two home games without Kawhi and one

853
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:56,719
of them you still get one of
those first two games at home. That's

854
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,079
not crazy to me at all,
because but I just don't think you're doing

855
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,320
better than that. Groh, Yeah, it'd be Yeah. I would dance

856
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:09,320
a jig if they go to and
Oh without Kawhi. If that happens,

857
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,639
knocking on Wood, it's the reverse
of twenty twenty one where we go up

858
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:15,400
to Oh the Clippers go up to
Oh. On Dallas. I don't know

859
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,320
what It's like I would love to
be in that position reverse because they're not

860
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:26,000
starting in Dallas. But I don't
hate the matchup. I know it would

861
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,440
seem impossible for them to win this
series without Kawhi Leonard. I think what

862
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:35,000
you'd have to have is Aviatsa Zubots
to have a breakout series and we're talking

863
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:43,320
like sixteen and twelve average and Norman
Powell to be dropping off the bench.

864
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:47,400
Yeah, Norm Powell to be dropping
twenty plus off the bench. Well,

865
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:57,119
I mean James, that could be
a given Norm and James play. Yeah,

866
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,760
I think he's more than capable drop
forty two against Phoenix. I don't

867
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,960
know what his averages came out to, but I'm pretty sure he was above

868
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:08,719
twenty last year in that first round
series. Uh and James Harden and Paul

869
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,400
George to combine for fifty points a
games. You need good locked in rest

870
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,079
the whole time. That's what I'm
saying. Like, there's not the margins

871
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:24,119
are not margin? Yeah, like
the margins are non existent. When the

872
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:29,840
margins are margins are still healthy,
why not just a little bit counterpoint?

873
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,199
Why not just a little bit,
Like it's not a strong argument, but

874
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:38,000
like some popsicle sticks exist, you
know, just you haven't said anything about

875
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:44,639
Kai Jones of isn't that he's playoff
eligible? Did we hear anything about him

876
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:48,920
today from he was there in those
interviews? He was there, Yeah,

877
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:53,239
he was there in that full sweatsuit
doing his thing. I did get an

878
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,719
email from somebody, a big listener
of Clippers talk who loves to lean into

879
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,480
playing bigs. He wants to bots
and plumbing out there all the time,

880
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:06,000
all the time, at least wants
to try the advantage. Like again,

881
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:12,000
my question is he just basketball?
These are the two tallest guys on the

882
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,719
team. You put him on the
court at the same time, higher average,

883
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:18,719
higher average points. He doesn't seem
to understand that. Well, that

884
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:26,760
may help you in the rebounding department
and the defensive department. It will careen

885
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:32,039
your offensive rating. If runs the
break at any point in this series,

886
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:38,280
he should be sent home. He
should be. It does feel like though

887
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:44,199
it could be more of a wide
open series than what would have happened against

888
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:47,840
the Pelicans. Every possession is so
precious, you know, against a team

889
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:53,119
like the Pelicans, it does feel
like there are going to be points to

890
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:57,280
be had. The Clippers will be
comfortable on offense for the most part.

891
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,280
And that's why I'm not going to
say they'd win the series without Kawhi,

892
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,280
but I'm also not going to say
it would be completely impossible. Completely.

893
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,400
I understand. I don't have a
strong argument because you know, they needed

894
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,119
Kawhi to be But the thing is
that what happened in twenty twenty one and

895
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:19,720
how it got to seven games was
a little bit fluky. I've been talking

896
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,439
about this with Lucas and our boss
all the time, like what happened in

897
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,479
the first three games, and I
ran the numbers the other day. What

898
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,760
happened with the Dallas Maverick shooting from
three in the first three games is also

899
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:38,000
something that you would have said is
impossible, which is they shot fifty from

900
01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:42,319
three on high volume the first three
games of that series, and the Clippers

901
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:47,319
also won one of those Game three. It was insane, and the regressions

902
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:51,880
of the mean came fast and swift
eventually, and the Clippers were able to

903
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,880
wait it out, to wait out
the storm, and they eventually won.

904
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,399
Now, they still need Kawhi to
have forty five in that game six on

905
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:05,359
the road of worse, but it
easily could have gone only six games easily.

906
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,720
What happened is not that repeatable from
three from Dallas's role players fingers crossed.

907
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,439
I know, but that was an
all time anomaly in the first two

908
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,840
games. That wasn't the Clippers just
are just playing bad defense and having some

909
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,600
bad game plan and what were they
thinking and they had to change everything.

910
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:32,479
It was unbelievable. As Lucas pointed
out in game two, they had one

911
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,680
better shooting game all season long than
they had in Game two. They were

912
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:41,640
two of their top five best shooting
games of the season, and they happened

913
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:46,239
to come in games one and two. That's not because of Luca and him

914
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,880
being a magician out there. It
just happened. It's just one of those

915
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:54,239
rare things that happened in a playoff
series, and the Clippers had to deal

916
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:59,039
with it unfortunately. So I know
Dallas is better now. I know without

917
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:06,000
Kawhi Leonard it would seem impossible.
But I don't expect them to go that

918
01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:14,960
crazy from three for three straight games
again, not three that one. Fine,

919
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,880
they're they're probably gonna have an eighteen
plus made three pointer game in this

920
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,640
one. Yeah, Luca and Kyrie
look unguardable, and they combined to maybe

921
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:30,680
drop seventy five points. Yeah,
that's fair. I'm excited to be more

922
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,960
stressed out about this as we get
closer to it, because right now I'm

923
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,840
excited, But I think as we
get closer and hear more non news about

924
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:44,119
the Kui stuff, I'm going to
be more nervous. I still my best

925
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,239
guess would be he gives it a
go in game one. That's still my

926
01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:49,560
best guess at this point. What
happened earlier, Like Will said, if

927
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,760
anything, it should lead you feeling
a little bit more optimistic. Yeah,

928
01:10:56,119 --> 01:11:00,760
it was. It was a four
hour practice, so I mean playing out

929
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,960
the practice sun up to sundown.
That's that's the playoffs schedule, full pads.

930
01:11:08,039 --> 01:11:10,840
So they did two days to day
full pads. Hot ride is at

931
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:17,000
lunch. Yeah, they were on
the tackling sleds. Just guy who doesn't

932
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:24,640
all right, we would be remiss
if we did not mention. Uh,

933
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:32,239
Blake Griffin retiring. Uh made me
feel old as hell just to see him

934
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:35,279
retire. He came in the league
after Yeah, s acctually, how old

935
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:46,600
is he? Thirty six? Don't
one of behind one of, if not

936
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,399
the most important Clippers players of all
time, probably my favorite Clipper of all

937
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:56,640
time. Yeah, I don't know
how you guys feel. He did so

938
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:02,479
much weird end to the franchise relationship, but I mean, yeah, I

939
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:09,880
think the most important Clipper. I
think so too when it came to national

940
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,600
media, and as Brian Sema would
say, putting this team on the map

941
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:19,640
like CP three in that move added
the credibility of they can win. But

942
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:26,159
the highlights from Blake Griffin are what
everybody saw and that's what circulated, and

943
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:31,479
that's what made people talk about the
Clippers all the time because they're god tier

944
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,039
dunks and some of the craziest stuff
we'll never see again. Like how many

945
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,279
I remember where I was moments did
Blake Griffin give you just from some of

946
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:45,399
those highlight dunks? Because I remember
where I was when he dunked on Kendrick

947
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,279
Perkins and I probably around it fifty
times. What a guy to just get

948
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:56,159
jammed onto. The Mozgov dunk is
absolutely insane. The power saw two dunks

949
01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:00,319
in one game on him, the
NBA jam, the game breaker that him

950
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:04,159
and Jamal did is still like he
didn't know He's gonna thought the islands crazy

951
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:11,199
well, what's your favorite. You
hated Blake, right, you were a

952
01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:14,159
guess it from the beginning. I
thought my favorite Blake moreent was when he

953
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:19,520
punched that training Yeah that sucked.
I was so curious and that was a

954
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:25,479
throw my phone sucked. Yeah,
that that sucked. I do love too.

955
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,439
One of the things that Blake did. I think someone posted a meme

956
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,319
of like Captain America and they were
like Blake Griffin using the last of his

957
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:38,159
knees to make the Pistons watchable In
twenty nineteen or whatever, that was his

958
01:13:38,399 --> 01:13:43,680
last quality season his full first year
with Detroit was this question year. Oh

959
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,640
yeah, he did all this stuff
that people had wanted him to be doing

960
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,079
or whatever. It's like, he
can do this stuff, like that's what's

961
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:54,239
kind of heartbreaking. Speaking of what
ifs, you know, Blake Griffin's an

962
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:59,199
all time what if this guy was
healthy throughout his entire career, type of

963
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:03,000
player up there with t Mac and
Derek Rose and guys like that Grant Hill,

964
01:14:04,119 --> 01:14:08,319
because he had so much more game. He was so skilled. He

965
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:13,319
worked on his game and evolved so
much where his mid range jumper like was

966
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,840
serious by twenty fifteen. The form
was so funny automatic. Watching him work

967
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,039
on it was so funny because for
a while it would looked like he was

968
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:25,239
just jumping and then waiting until he
was just about to go back down and

969
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:31,399
then snap his hard But he got
it figured out and just so just funny

970
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,840
too. In terms of off court
stuff, oh yeah, so great for

971
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:40,039
branding and stuff like that. Want
to commercials. Yeah, his Slamm Dump

972
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:45,920
contest, which I do think was
rigged a little bit because like someone had

973
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,479
to give I forget who got screwed, but somebody had to put up.

974
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,319
Blake didn't have a good first round
and somehow made it. And it's like,

975
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439
well the car was waiting for him
in the second round, like he

976
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,359
had to get to the second round
because the Kiya car was gonna roll out.

977
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:04,720
But still that that's just known as
synergy and sometimes you gotta deal with

978
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:10,079
it. In a dunk contest put
on by a league. Yeah, ask

979
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:14,640
a certain player for the Nuggets,
what was your favorite uh set that Blake

980
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,680
did when he would drop in on
Mike Charles when he was dropping a new

981
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,640
stand up. He wasn't so he
wasn't aggressively bad at stand up. No,

982
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,520
he is incredible time he is incredible
timing like that. That was like

983
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,159
the peak kind of era of like
Clippers in the in the larger media,

984
01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:35,239
like just had that Cartoon Network show
on Adult Swim for a very limited time,

985
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,600
which is crazy. I remember he
made a joke on stage with Jeffrey

986
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,840
Ross once. This was after the
Clippers had traded him and Ross had shaved

987
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:51,680
his head, and he said something
like, you know, we both got

988
01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:58,520
screwed by the Clippers because his head
was shaved and Blake got traded, and

989
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:01,199
like, you had to make that
move. You had to to free up

990
01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:04,319
the salary to bring in two and
three. And you could see during that

991
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,279
season like he wasn't going to last. He wasn't going to last in his

992
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:13,159
first year on that contract. His
knees just weren't there. He was starting

993
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:16,119
to deteriorate right before our eyes.
It's it's a bummer too. He also

994
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:21,520
has the dubious title of being one
of the guys that hits a big shot

995
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,640
and then is traded the next night, because he his last shot was I

996
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,479
think a three pointer against the Pelicans
late in the ball game that iceed it

997
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,560
for the Clippers, and then he
was gone the next day. He also,

998
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,840
he also is the reason the craziest
shirt was ever printed. If you

999
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,880
know what T shirt I'm talking about, it's the T shirt they showed Blake,

1000
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,520
the Pioneers shirt where it's like,
oh my god, it's like,

1001
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:54,720
let me bring up the graphic out
of the technology. Guys, we don't

1002
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,960
have it. We can't do this. Oh we have it. We have

1003
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,479
to show this shirt. This shirt
is crazy. It's crazy. They made

1004
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,800
this. Adam, were you selectively
forgetting So for those of you who haven't

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,760
seen this, uh, this is
for getting this moment as it happens.

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This is a shirt that has Blake
Griffin, Muhammad, Ali Obama, JFK,

1007
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:24,720
Martin, Luther King, Junior Einstein, and Mandela on there. And

1008
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,640
this was how they were pitching him
to come with, just just a wild

1009
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:36,520
pitch. Clippers Marketing always doing their
thing. Josephanward, no live live reaction.

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01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:42,920
Josephryan Ward has that shirt, which
is incredible. I think that about

1011
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,960
wraps it up. We got to
get out of here. These playoffs just

1012
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:47,239
have us wanting to talk as much
clip as possible. We're gonna have another

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01:17:47,279 --> 01:17:54,439
episode on Thursday for everyone to watch, which should be a good time and

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,199
then we're gonna be doing some lives
and whatnot. It's gonna be a fun

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01:17:58,279 --> 01:18:01,279
time. Will where could people all
their friends to maybe listen to us if

1016
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:03,960
they would like. So, you
can listen to us wherever you get your

1017
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,199
podcasts. If you're listening over on
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1018
01:18:09,319 --> 01:18:14,119
rating and review. It really helps
us out the best question mark, I

1019
01:18:14,199 --> 01:18:21,920
mean maybe the best U. The
best way to enjoy this show is over

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,119
on YouTube. That's YouTube dot com
slash that clippers podcast. Please subscribe you

1021
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:31,199
know you can comment. And we're
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01:18:31,239 --> 01:18:34,239
Twitter. That's at clippers Pod.
We'd love to chop it up with you.

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However you consume this, I appreciate
it. We appreciate it, and

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,479
we have a quick We got another
giveaway real quick that Adam just spread on

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,720
us. We didn't leave because of
the shirt. Have you have you mailed

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:53,319
the other bibblehead out yet? Did
you get his address? Yeah? I

1027
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:56,640
sent you the I sent it in
the group chat. Oh that's my pat

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01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,039
Then we got it o their bottlehead. Given the taxi turnout, I'll tell

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01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:04,359
you that much of your god last
second, I was one of the procrastinators

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01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:15,199
in January any money? What bobblehead
are we giving away? But step big

1031
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:19,000
Steve. I think they gave him
the kung fu figh grip on this.

1032
01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:29,399
It's pretty great. He's in the
celebratory post. Yeah, it's it's What

1033
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,800
are the rules for the giveaway?
Adam Oh? I mean, I'd say

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we stick with the keywords. It's
been successful. Yeah, words if you're

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:43,640
if you're listening this deep, you
deserve it. Three Are MAVs fans eligible,

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by the way, or no?
How do we that? Good question?

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We'll figure out. We'll look at
their post history. Everything's online.

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01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:57,600
Well, we'll shot Markham. Yeah, so we we're gonna mail out the

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,479
other one because I'll re up on
the address for that. Do we want

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,760
to give away a keyword? Now? Yeah? Right? Will? What

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01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,560
is the first keyword to win this
bobblehead? If you get all three comment

1042
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:15,479
on the YouTube video with you gonna
have without doo focus? The first keyword

1043
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,840
is focus. Also the best fight
of the water flavor. So if you

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,920
it's true if you remember focus,
and then you remember the two other ones

1045
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,720
that we're gonna drop. We're gonna
drop one on Thursday and then maybe we'll

1046
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,199
drop one during the live before the
game on Sunday or something. We'll see

1047
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:38,479
you know, We'll figure you gotta
watch the episodes to see what it could

1048
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:43,000
end up in any of our future
episodes. Yeah, write them down and

1049
01:20:43,079 --> 01:20:45,359
then type them into a comment on
YouTube when you think you have all three,

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,600
and we will mail you a bobblehead. Thank you for hanging out.

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We're gonna be back on Thursday,
and as always, let's go clips