WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.559 When you started to ask that question, I thought you were going somewhere else 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.599 with it. Have you ever signed an odd part of someone's body? And 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:13.599 yes I did, Brad. Let me ask you a question, what's the 4 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:21.600 strangest signature you've ever placed way too close to a woman's chest? Because I 5 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:24.440 hit her in that spot with the ball, not on purpose, of course, 6 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.559 it was in Hartford, hgart heart Ford. You hit her in the 7 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:32.560 heart pretty much. Yes. Her husband was adamant, like, please, 8 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:37.079 she wants to be signed here, and I'm like, are you both sure 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:42.520 there's a sheriff nearby. No, okay, So I signed her shirt very 10 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:46.479 very close to where I shouldn't have. But she was adamant she wanted because 11 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:48.920 she got hit with the golf ball right there on the fifteenth hole. And 12 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.079 this was on the seventeenth tee. They caught up or followed our group for 13 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:56.399 a couple holes and made that request. So you've got to give the people 14 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.920 what they want, right, I guess that's service. Hi, this is 15 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.640 Stephen Anderson from Cincinnati, Ohio, and I play at Cedar Trace Golf Club. 16 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:11.680 This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and twenty five, wearing the wrong 17 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.200 size glove is as bad as wearing wrong size shoes. With Carrie and Brad 18 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:21.959 from Red Rooster Golf, this is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and 19 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.959 insights from great golf minds to help you lower your score and raise your golf 20 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.879 IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter 21 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:36.120 podcast. Brad. Thank you, Fred. It's been a while. I 22 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:38.159 can't remember the last time we spoke. I feel like it's been at least 23 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.599 eight to ten months probably, But I appreciate you because you guys have been 24 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.480 Yeah, appreciate you reaching back out. Yeah, of course. And it's 25 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:53.319 great to have your partner in business here and your caddie Carrie mar Carrie. 26 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.599 Great to have you back on the podcast as well. Thanks Fred, Yeah, 27 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.920 great to see you. Congratulations. You guys have had a heck of 28 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:07.599 a year with redroostergolf dot com. And you're kind of like, you don't 29 00:02:07.639 --> 00:02:14.039 know this, but you're kind of like a good drug or is that a 30 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:20.879 bad drug because the addiction is there. I've learned it's like, you know, 31 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.879 it's really I never realized how much I needed to change my gloves on 32 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:31.280 a regular basis until I started having a subscription to Red Rooster Golf, and 33 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:36.479 so now I'm addicted to it, and it's like, oh, I've got 34 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.599 a little, you know, a little bit of wear here on this glove. 35 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:44.199 Time to get rid of it, as opposed to it getting all sweaty 36 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.240 and crinkly and drying up and standing up in the back of the car all 37 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:54.960 by itself. So congratulations on a great product and a great service. Yeah, 38 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:59.159 thanks, Fred, I mean, I mean, I think you're touching 39 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.560 on the subscri scription. I think that's kind of how how we envisioned it. 40 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:07.319 And you know, most of our customers buy gloves as as needed, 41 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.960 and I think that's kind of I think that's all of our intention. We 42 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.120 all sort of believe that we'll make the right choice at the right time and 43 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:21.360 make the right plans. But you know, the subscriptions there just for those 44 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.599 of us that maybe can't be trusted to, you know, change the gloves 45 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.800 often enough. In that way you can sort of put it on autopilot. 46 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.319 You can adjust it as needed, you know, monthly by monthly, quarterly, 47 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.360 get as many as you need when you need them, and when they 48 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.400 show up, it is often just kind of that reminder you know, is 49 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:43.000 it time to change this out of there's nothing like you know, that feeling 50 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.960 of a fresh glove, you know, to start around for sure. Yeah, 51 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:52.719 but didn't What wasn't the original concept for your business model a subscription service? 52 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.319 And then what what helped you decide that it was like you needed to 53 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.360 make some some moves here to say, you know, let's let's sell gloves 54 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.319 to people who need them when they need them. No, it was it 55 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.520 was always to be flexible. We there wasn't you know, we're the first 56 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:15.720 subscription glove service, but we knew that that would just be that would cater 57 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:20.199 to a certain audience that we still believe it. You know that that probably 58 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:26.600 is the best way to you know, use Red Rooster Gloves is to figure 59 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:28.720 out, you know, how many gloves do you need, when do you 60 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.319 need them? And then use the subscription service because you can make these adjustments 61 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:39.720 as needed. But we always wanted people to have an option to buy a 62 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.560 glove. You can buy them in bulk, you can you know, buy 63 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.199 them on the regular. You know, a lot of our customers are set 64 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.920 up through we use a Shopify store. If you've set up through shop pay, 65 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:53.959 it's as easy as a subscription service right to come to the site again 66 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.800 and order another glove as a couple of clicks. So it is pretty simple. 67 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.879 But now the main vision was that some people really need the subscription because 68 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:08.720 I think, like I touched on, everyone intends to get gloves as needed, 69 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.319 but often by the time you need one, you're having to run into 70 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.959 a pro shop, maybe limited options, maybe they don't have your size, 71 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:21.319 usually pay a little bit too much. So it's just a way to kind 72 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:28.079 of plan and more, a lot of golfers don't know when to change a 73 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:32.959 glove, so it becomes that little nudge and reminder when a new glove pops 74 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.360 in the mail. It's not that you have to use it right away, 75 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:41.439 but often it it's you know, causes you to question, like, you 76 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.240 know, what am I doing with this current glove? Do I need to 77 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.600 squeeze a couple more rounds out of it? You know? Or is it 78 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:53.000 you know, beyond its useful life? And is it time to switch things 79 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.439 up? And Brad can speak to kind of how often it was built off 80 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.920 the idea that, like, you know, pros change their gloves out real 81 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:05.720 often, but also most golf gloves are made for pros and then amateurs use 82 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:11.879 them and squeeze more rounds out of them than they're really built for. Probably 83 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.600 true, Brad. How often do the pros change gloves? I like, 84 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:20.000 do they go multiple gloves in a round? It depends on the conditions. 85 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:27.519 Probably in the hot, sweaty humidity of the John Deere Classic in Iowa, 86 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.360 absolutely you're going through a couple of gloves around. You'll have a couple on 87 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.199 the hook on your bag, you know, drying out. But you know, 88 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.920 every golfer has a certain spot where they get the sweat marks in the 89 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:42.839 humidity. I think mine typically just goes on the top of the wrist and 90 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:49.399 it starts to creep up towards the velcro. And it's super important to make 91 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:54.959 sure that you don't have a glove that's sweaty, which means then it'll start 92 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.199 to dry out oddly and it gets crusty. Right, So failing that, 93 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.519 I think I think a typical PGA tour player would probably play two competitive rounds 94 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:11.680 with the glove. You know, not that I signed a ton of autographs 95 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.199 when I played, but I did, and a lot of the times a 96 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:15.839 kid would ask for the glove, and I'm like, absolutely, I'll sign 97 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.639 the glove. I'll give it to them. It's it's probably a little more 98 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:24.920 memorable than a golf ball. A lot of times they'd ask for your hat. 99 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:30.240 I had kids in the kids in Mexico and Panama City, Panama and 100 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.360 Columbia would always ask for your shoes and your sunglasses. And I'm like, 101 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.040 man, I've got a limit. I can't give away everything. I gotta 102 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.199 play tomorrow. Right, I can give you a glove, that's no problem. 103 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:46.680 Uh So, But yeah, I think the typical why why that region? 104 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.040 Why do you do? Say? You know the kids in this region, 105 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.879 you're they they're a little more aggressive, and what they're asking, they're 106 00:07:54.959 --> 00:08:00.319 not shy to ask. That's absolutely please. Well you sign you're getting something 107 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:05.240 you don't want to get if you're asking for my hanes, right, yeah, 108 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.759 I talk about sweaty gloves. Yeah. I don't know exactly why it 109 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.920 is, but they weren't shy to ask. But you know, you got 110 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.160 to draw the line somewhere. So I'm like, hey, guys, golf 111 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.759 balls, gloves, no problem, anything else. You know, at the 112 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:24.680 end of the round on Sunday, absolutely you can have my hat. It's 113 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.160 really sweaty, but you can have my hat, no problem, but not 114 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.159 you know, Thursday or Friday. But yeah, a typical player would go 115 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.360 through a glove every two rounds. I think that's that's pretty common. Like 116 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.840 Kerry said, you slip a glove on on the first tee, you know, 117 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.919 they announce your name ready to hit your first t shot. It feels 118 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.679 awesome. I don't think anyone can deny that part. It's just a matter 119 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.960 of cost, right for the average average golf or the consumer can't afford that. 120 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.360 So that's why we make gloves that last a long time. And you 121 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.240 know, you pointed out in our pre show like, hey, hey, 122 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.279 your gloves last too long. Like you're in the glove business, you want 123 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.159 to sell gloves. But I think in our view, it's hard to reinvent 124 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.440 a golf glove, right, so you might as well be known for something. 125 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.639 And I think that we've really done a good job of delivering really good 126 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.759 feel, but something that the consumer can say it doesn't last three or four 127 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.519 rounds, at lasts eight to ten to twelve before I even think that I 128 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.600 might need to change it. So I think we've delivered on that and given 129 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:39.080 something unique to the recreational golfer. I think so too. I can probably 130 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.600 go I guess around a dozen rounds before I start thinking about it. But 131 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.440 it's also like, oh, but I got a new one in the mail. 132 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:52.720 Do I want to Oh no, I'm not ready. I'm just now. 133 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.720 I want to go back to the second by giving autographs. Did you 134 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.159 ever some kid come up to you saying, Hey, can I have your 135 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.120 autograph? Did you ever say them, what's my name? Tell me who 136 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:09.720 I am? Tell me who do you think you are getting an autograph from? 137 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.799 Do you know who I am? No? Despite the rhetoric that you 138 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:18.320 might hear these days with kind of the the rank and file of the tour, 139 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.919 in my view, it was okay not to know who I am. 140 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.919 I think the biggest thing for a kid when they're at a PGA Tour event 141 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.120 is that the player that he's current he or she is currently in front of 142 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.240 is a PGA Tour player, Like, full stop, there's no I don't 143 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.879 need to know his name. You know Rory and Tiger and all those guys, 144 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.000 but you know, a guy in the field is still in the field. 145 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.919 And I think the kids were that was their their mind right, that 146 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.320 that was where they were coming from. I will say when you when you 147 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.519 started to ask that question, I thought you were going somewhere else with it. 148 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.720 Have you ever signed an odd part of someone's body? And yes I 149 00:10:54.799 --> 00:11:01.559 did, Brad. Let me ask you a question. That's the strangest signature 150 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:07.720 you've ever placed, way too close to a woman's chest because I hit her 151 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.159 in that spot with the ball, not on purpose, of course, it 152 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.039 was in Hartford. You know that drivable part four in Hartford, it's got 153 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:20.879 the water Heartford. You hit her in the heart pretty much. Yes. 154 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.840 Her husband was adamant, like, she wants, she wants to be signed 155 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.639 here, And I'm like, are you both sure? Like nobody's taken video 156 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:39.559 anywhere I'm being punked. There's a sheriff nearby. No, okay, So 157 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.759 I signed her shirt very very close to where I shouldn't have. But she 158 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.480 was adamant. She wanted because she got hit with the golf ball right there 159 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.279 on the fifteenth hole. And this was on the seventeenth tee. They caught 160 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.840 up or followed our group for a couple holes and made that request. So 161 00:11:52.960 --> 00:12:01.639 you've got to give the people what they want, right, Yeah, that's 162 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.519 that's a good one. I really don't want to go any deeper than that. 163 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:09.919 Let's just take a time out. We'll be back right after this. 164 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.519 Before we start our next segment, I want to thank both of you because 165 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:28.279 you've been incredibly supportive of Golf Smarter and you have allowed us to make our 166 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.759 Golf Smarter Ambassador program where we have listeners introduce each episode, tell us where 167 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.639 they're from and where they play. And one of the gifts that that we've 168 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.679 been regularly giving away, I have to honestly say the second most popular gift 169 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.120 behind the Tony Manzoni video, is the red rooster golf glove. And I 170 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.720 really appreciate you guys allowing us to give those away on a regular basis. 171 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.039 So thank you very much for supporting us. And yeah, it's great. 172 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.840 The ambassadors are always excited as we follow up with them and try and figure 173 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.559 out their you know, glove hand and size, and we send them the 174 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.600 glove compartment as well, so that a spot to keep the gloves and rotate 175 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.519 them. And and you know Brad was talking about this in the pre show. 176 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:18.799 We see a lot of repeat customers. You know, the glove makes 177 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.799 an impression, it's it's quality and then they have a spot to house their 178 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.519 gloves and to rotate them, you know, during the round. So it's 179 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:30.080 been it's been great for us. We appreciate the shout out and it's nice 180 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.600 to work with the ambassadors. They obviously appreciate it. Yeah. Absolutely. 181 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:39.879 Let's talk about sizing for a minute now that you brought that up. What 182 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.600 have you found out? What have you discovered that the consumer isn't aware of 183 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:50.840 when they're sizing themselves for gloves. We've done a number of we probably did 184 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.639 fifteen to twenty events this year where we would be set up on typically a 185 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:01.440 par three brought in to do like a glove giveaway, and I would say, 186 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.759 I'm gonna estimate, you know, I don't know sixty seventy percent of 187 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:11.120 the time the golfers leave with a different size, a size they they've never 188 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:16.840 either never tried before or weren't aware of. And I'd say, typically it's 189 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:22.120 the cadet sizes. It's just so there's regular size. That's that's for a 190 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.799 I'm a regular. That's a it's a symmetrical hand. It's sort of like 191 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:31.120 call it the normal size. You know those come in you know, left 192 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.720 and right, hand, you know, up to from small up to double 193 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:41.639 xcel. And then then there's Cadet sizes, which is a slightly shorter finger 194 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:48.919 and a slightly wider palm, and that that kind of that kind of hand. 195 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.360 I can kind of see it when they're coming up and it's just a 196 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.759 different kind of hand, and so those gloves fit in a different way they 197 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.679 need typically that that's for someone who normally says, hey, you know, 198 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.639 with a regular glove, I have a little bit of extra leather on top 199 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.240 of my fingers, and or I find the gloves to be really tight through 200 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:15.039 the palm, and Cadet sizes is meant to kind of fit that particular kind 201 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.600 of hand. And I'd say a lot of people just aren't aware of that 202 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.159 size option. It's not a particularly great name, right, Cadet. People 203 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.039 think it's a kid's glove, so so they just stay away from it, 204 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.639 and they, you know, are so when we're they are doing these fittings, 205 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.279 I can often see that hand or I see them try a regular glove 206 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.639 and I see that it's long in the fingers, or I see that it 207 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.360 feels too tight, and I can give them a Cadet glove and I would 208 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.960 say that that's my experience. I'll lean on Brad He's done a lot of 209 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:50.240 these events too, but it's usually it's it's moving them into a cadet size 210 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.360 or exposing them to that. And then quite often they've got a glove that's 211 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:00.159 at least a size too big, sometimes too. They just a glove, 212 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.440 you know, a it comes in a wide range of sizes, like our 213 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:08.399 gloves come in up to thirty four sizes, including women's and youths. WHOA. 214 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:14.799 So you know, most people are pretty happy with a run of them, 215 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:18.679 you know, a large, but they've never tried a medium large, 216 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.080 or they've never tried a medium large Cadet. And that's what I am. 217 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:26.639 I'm a Cadet medium large, and I never understood why I always thought I 218 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:33.279 had big hands. And then golf and I'm wearing a Cadet. I'm like, 219 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.240 wait, it's a kids size. It's like, I never understood what 220 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.919 it meant and why I have that size that works for me, and maybe 221 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.399 it doesn't work for me. I don't know. I did. That's the 222 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:51.080 one I have. It feels the most snug and doesn't have that little extra 223 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:56.399 piece of fabric at the tip of my fingers. Yeah, that's huge. 224 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:02.120 It should be really really tight, like almost. I would say most people 225 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:07.319 aren't willing to wear a glove that fits properly because it fits so tight and 226 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.799 they often feel like, oh, this is too tight, and I'm often 227 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:15.720 like, that's perfect, you know if it if it slides on really easily, 228 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.319 it's too big. You should have to pull that glove on at least, 229 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:23.480 especially that first time. And most people want to slide one on easily. 230 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.400 Go it fits relatively well. And what happens is, you know, 231 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:32.319 it's soft leather, it stretches and two three rounds in. It's sloppy. 232 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.079 And now you'll see that the telltale is when someone has to pull the glove 233 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:44.200 strap it should when it fits well. Show you here, yeah, this 234 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.279 is my this is the Sussex. So this is and for those of you 235 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:52.160 who are listening as an audio podcast, Brad's putting on a glove. If 236 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.920 you couldn't tell the sound of elcrow, so there you can see that. 237 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.079 Like, actually, the velcrow should only go roughly three cores the way across 238 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:06.559 on the top, should not cover the full piece of velcro on the wrist. 239 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.160 It should only cover about three quarters of it, that's what you're saying. 240 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.240 And you can see how that fits in a nice and tight and most 241 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.279 people say, oh, this is a little to let me go, you 242 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.759 know, let me go up one size. And now we'll often have to 243 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.000 sort of talk them into this because where you'll see that a glove doesn't fitz. 244 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.759 If you ever see someone who's got it pulled way over like that, 245 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:32.839 that means that that glove was probably you know, it's too big, it's 246 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.839 already stretched out, it never comes back right. So that that's kind of 247 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:38.759 my take Brad. You've done, you know, as many or more of 248 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:41.559 these events. What are your kind of takeaways on the fittings. Yeah. 249 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:48.440 I think first and foremost it's the misunderstanding or the not having knowledge of what 250 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.799 cadet means. Like Fred said he thought it was a kid's size at first. 251 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.440 I think that's what most people end up thinking. So when you first 252 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.400 come to our website, we have this live chat function, and I'd say 253 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:06.160 half of the new customers who are using that function will say, what's the 254 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:11.519 difference between regular and cadet? So we explain that it's fairly easy to explain. 255 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.240 It's another for the person to actually know if they you know, because 256 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.920 like you said, Fred, you thought you had a really big hand. 257 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.839 Well, Cadet medium large is kind of in the middle of you know, 258 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:25.000 we go small, medium, medium, large, large, excel, so 259 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:30.400 you're kind of right in the middle. Average hand size, right, I 260 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.400 think the most obvious hand and carry alluded to it is when the guy who 261 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:40.240 probably lays bricks for a living comes up to the T box and you can 262 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:44.839 see it. It's the construction hand, you know, real thick palm, 263 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.440 shorter, wider fingers. You can tell. We sometimes refer to it callous 264 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:52.960 as the tradesman's hand, right, you know, it does it for a 265 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.880 living. His hands take a beating and they've kind of been call those journeymen. 266 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:06.519 In that case, i'd wear a Cadet size. But but yeah, 267 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.920 I think first and foremost it's the difference between regular and Cadet can be fairly 268 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.720 stark. And then, as Carrie said again, a lot of just men, 269 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.279 forty year old men come up to the tee and say, yep, 270 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:23.000 I'm a large, and I'll look at the hand and I'll say, eh, 271 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:26.960 let's try a medium large, And then that might be too big. 272 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:33.319 And I think Carrie can speak to this. I think he had. I 273 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.279 don't know if it's a TV appearance carry or a podcast where you fit the 274 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:40.839 guy and he's worn a large his whole life, and I think you got 275 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:42.920 him into a medium, which is two sizes. He was a medium. 276 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.880 Yeah, he was a medium. He played for fifteen years. He was 277 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:49.640 adamant that, you know, that's what he was. And as soon as 278 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.559 I met him and shook his hand, it was a cadet hand. I 279 00:20:52.640 --> 00:21:00.279 just and so we moved him down. We tried, he tried. He 280 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.000 put on a medium large, it was huge. He put on the medium, 281 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.640 like this is what you're wearing. It was still big, long in 282 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:10.200 the fingers, and it was tight in the palm. And that's why he 283 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:14.720 was stuck on that size because it was tight through the palm area and he 284 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.680 needed the cadet and then he needed to go down. So he ended up 285 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.359 we fit him on a He was a cadet small WO. So he moved 286 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:27.519 down a size and into cadet And I'd say more often than not, that's 287 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:33.319 where those fittings go. They're fun for us because most people haven't tried the 288 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.240 range of sizes, and a lot of golfers, even you know, somebody 289 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.240 is a really good golfer. He's been playing golf for fifteen years and he's 290 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:44.920 always had a glove that doesn't quite fit. And when he got that proper 291 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:47.440 fit, he was kind of blown away. He's like, this is a 292 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:52.160 really different feel, and now you can really feel that club in your hands. 293 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:57.200 You know, golf's a game of confidence and having a glove that fits 294 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.079 you really well. If for a long time you've been wearing a glove that 295 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.759 just doesn't quite fit and feel great, that's not you know, that's not 296 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:10.359 a great way to to start around. So those little adjustments, those those 297 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.799 go a long way. And we do see that a lot too with our 298 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:17.359 you know, free shipping, free exchanges. We do a lot of coaching, 299 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.039 you know, back and forth by email, live chat. When people 300 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.519 get you know, say their first gloves and they need they don't fit, 301 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:29.359 you know, we we coach them through what that adjustment should be. And 302 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.359 that's that's a lot of fun for us too, because once they find that 303 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.119 fit and they find the right glove for them, and especially with us, 304 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.240 we've got this wide range of different styles, then there it's a it's a 305 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.480 big change for them because I'd say, you know, lots of golfers have 306 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:51.400 never probably been properly fit for a golf glove. So that's that's been kind 307 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:55.720 of a rewarding interaction for us. I think that the second thing that I 308 00:22:55.759 --> 00:23:00.799 noticed from from these glove fittings is that, uh, people are all willing 309 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.039 to share. Like, hey, I blow out the palm of this glove 310 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.440 all the time. It happens all the time, at lasts a couple of 311 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.599 rounds and then the palm blows out. And part of that is the glove 312 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.759 fit. Like Carrie said, a bigger glove will get sloppy, and all 313 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:17.039 of a sudden, when you're swinging the club at one hundred miles an hour, 314 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.279 give or take, that handle's moving fast, right, and the grip 315 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:26.000 is rubber, sometimes it's cord, and it's taking a toll on the leather 316 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.759 on the glove. And one of the other things that we notice is that 317 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:36.839 a lot of people hold the club, especially drivers, too far up the 318 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.319 grip. If you don't see any part of your grip coming out of your 319 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.680 if you're right handed, if you don't see any part of the grip coming 320 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.599 out of your left hand, then that butt of the grip is going to 321 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.119 kill the palm of your glove. If it's stuck kind of, if it's 322 00:23:53.200 --> 00:24:00.920 not going quite past for better or worse your wrist, then it's going to 323 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.599 be massacring the palm of your glove. And that's a good friend of both 324 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.720 carry and ies. He's a he's a huge supporter of ours. His name 325 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:12.839 is Scott. He's about a fifteen handicap, his twelve handicap up in Toronto, 326 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:15.960 Canada. And the first thing he ever said to me when we started 327 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:22.039 a glove company was I bloke through gloves like crazy. And we played a 328 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.480 couple months later and I said, well, the butt of your grip is 329 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:30.039 in your palm. That's why. So he chose, I mean to him, 330 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.000 it's choking up, right, he feels like he's choking up. He's 331 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.759 not choking up. He's just using more of the grip and putting it in 332 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.920 the proper spot. And all of a sudden his gloves last fifteen to twenty 333 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.759 rounds now. So it's and he shouldn't. He shouldn't be getting longer shafts. 334 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.079 Correct, your handicap will go up. Well, you know, one 335 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.480 of the things with Scott is the very tall guy six foot, so he 336 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.680 did need longer clubs. He was extending his club right. His driver was 337 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:02.920 basically too short for him, so he was going farther up the grip and 338 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.920 all of a sudden it was in his palm and going through gloves like crazy. 339 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.240 So that's that's another adjustment that you know, you don't like to give 340 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.200 people too many, you know, golf tips in the middle of a round, 341 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.400 but at these glove fittings you can say, hey, if you blow 342 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:19.759 through gloves, this is a good reason why. Well, and you're at 343 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.240 an event, at a fitting, it's not during the round, so you 344 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:29.160 can suggest that that's exactly right, you know, Like for me my life, 345 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:33.400 my business, I hear voices and I'm like, oh, I have 346 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.119 a sense of what region you're from in the world, Like you know, 347 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:37.640 Carrie, you give it away all the time. You're Canadian, right, 348 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.680 But did you ever think you'd be in a business where you say, shake 349 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.720 someone's hand and you're like, oh, nice hands, Okay, oh you're 350 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.319 a medium that medium large? Are you? Yes? It's like, wait 351 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:52.920 a minute, what do you do? No? I never did, but 352 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.640 yeah, now it is a bit of a sickness now, like when I'm 353 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:03.079 shaking hands, I am like, I'm away your glove size Unlike he's a 354 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.599 regular. See, yeah, he's a regularly. He's probably a medium large 355 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.599 and there's no support groups for that, not yet. Hi. My name 356 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.640 is Carrie and I like to hold hands. Yeah, my wife, they 357 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.200 may need to start one. We're going to take another break. We'll bit 358 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:29.759 right back. So let's talk about your year. It's been just over years 359 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.880 since we last spoke to you, too, and you're still in business. 360 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.440 I love it. I love that you're still in business. And we did 361 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:42.319 bump into each other at the PGA show last January. You guys were scoping 362 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:48.119 it out, just walking around talking to people and stuff. Let's talk about 363 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.440 what twenty twenty three was for you and what's going to be happening in twenty 364 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.880 twenty four. How exciting? Yeah, I mean it was amazing. Yeah, 365 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.319 it was fun to fun to catch up at the PGASH show. That 366 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.160 was my first and as mine mine too. Are you going to head back 367 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.680 not this year? Okay, it worked out for me last year because again 368 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:17.240 it's cross country, it's not an inexpensive trip. I'm a podcaster and uh 369 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.799 I was in Florida for a family wedding, so I'm like, I'm just 370 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.599 going to stick around and do the PGA show. It was a blast, 371 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.640 but it's it was not what I thought it was going to be. Although 372 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.519 I probably need a couple more shows to really get to figure out what it 373 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.880 is. But that was for me. Talk about you. Yeah, I 374 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.599 mean it's a it's a bit of an overwhelming experience, but yes, it's 375 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.599 good. We're trying to you know, strike up some partnerships and get a 376 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.880 sense of of just even the you know, the industry. I even liked 377 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.480 a lot of the different breakout sessions. There was a lot of good sort 378 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.799 of industry knowledge, you know, like what are the trends, where things 379 00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.759 headed? You know, how's the Did you learn anything in any of those 380 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.359 sessions or people that you met that you walked away going we need to make 381 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:11.000 a change in our We need to make an adjustment here moving forward because of 382 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.839 what we just learned. Was there any of that? My biggest takeaway was 383 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:22.279 how many simulator companies were there. Yeah, and there was a really great 384 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.759 breakout. It was put on by a National Golf Foundation. It showed the 385 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:30.599 you know, it was the they call it the green grass golf versus the 386 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.400 off course, and you know between the top golf and these indoor simulators, 387 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:41.319 how that was really growing and how that segment looked like there was a great 388 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.799 opportunity there, and we had developed this glove that's been it's been our second 389 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.240 most popular glove out here. It's our range rooster, and it was built 390 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.039 for practice. It was built for this purpose of like, hey, save 391 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:59.319 these beautiful leather gloves for the golf course when you're going to the driving range 392 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.359 and when you're practic this thing. Use this. It's a it's made of 393 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.960 a stretchy synthetic material, super durable. You can even wash this glove, 394 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.359 so wow. So it's good for months. Some guys, you know, 395 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:19.359 get most season backyard, Yeah exactly. And so but this has also been 396 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.920 you know, this is a simulator glove because it's sort of the same thing 397 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:30.480 when you play simulator golf. You you can play eighteen holes in an hour 398 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.640 and you're you know, the cadence, there's no walking between shots and so 399 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.799 on. You know, you hit one, you hit another. It's a 400 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.119 it's a much more like a range session slash practice session where it's just it's 401 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.319 a lot of repetition. Hand gets hot, you're not taking that glove off 402 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.559 and on, so you need something that's a bit more durable. So that 403 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.759 was I think a key insight for us that that you know, really position 404 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.559 this glove is. Yes, it's it's meant for practice. It is meant 405 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.200 to kind of like save the soft leather gloves, but it's great for that 406 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.839 purpose of like you will go into a simulator session, you will put a 407 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.359 glove on, and you're not probably going to take it off for the next 408 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.119 hour, and so you need a glove that's going to be able to like 409 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.720 handle that much. You know that many you know hits, but also like 410 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.039 your hand's going to heat up. So this glove is really great at like 411 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.960 pulling the moisture out. It's this kind of like feels like a stretchy suede, 412 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.519 super durable, and and you develop that after the PGA show, No, 413 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.039 we we had it, just you had it. You just realize, 414 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.759 but we realize, like, hey, it's you know, are useful this 415 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:40.920 this is probably it's it's probably built better for simulator golf than it is even 416 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.759 for the driving range. I'd say probably simulators becoming the driving range in a 417 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.319 lot of cases, and in other cases it's become the it is golf For 418 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.519 a lot of people, they just you can time box it. You can 419 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.359 play if you can play eighteen holes in twelve in in an hour, or 420 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:03.200 it's a lot more time box then you know the commitment of an eighteen hole 421 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.319 round or even nine holes. Well, also for what you and I talked 422 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.880 about off mic was that I play golf twelve months a year because of where 423 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.400 I live, and you can't, right, right, people who only get 424 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.880 to play five months a year. Sure, Yeah, that was probably the 425 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.880 biggest takeaway. There was just that well similar thing and building some products for 426 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.960 it. I think the other one was just that we've always wanted to have 427 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:37.759 this for our subscribers and for our you know, if you like our gloves, 428 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.160 we want to be able to have a suite of gloves, so everything 429 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.400 from a practice glove to your tournament glove, which was the Sussex glove that 430 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:49.519 I showed you. It is our thinnest, softest glove. So mostly our 431 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.440 gloves are built to be super durable. This is the glove that you know 432 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.640 is the exception to that rule. It's built for feel and it's meant for 433 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:04.880 those special rounds. We've got our gloves. God saved my life yesterday. 434 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.799 Okay, I'm like, I'm just not even gonna take them off. I 435 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.559 have left and right rain gloves. Yeah, and I'm just not gonna take 436 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.960 it on. And I'm like, I'm thinking, putts now to wait a 437 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.839 minute, what's going on here? You know, the first hour and a 438 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.759 half of our around yesterday rain and then it was a beautiful day. But 439 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.839 it was like, I'm just gonna go right to my red black, red 440 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.759 rooster gloves. That's it, the rain rooster fred Those have been great because 441 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:37.160 everybody needs a set of rain gloves. Like you're you're gonna you're gonna have 442 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.440 days where it rains and so you need, you know, gloves for that, 443 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.119 so you so you're prepared. We've been super happy with that glove. 444 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.880 And then we just we just rolled out our you know, our sort of 445 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.079 cart mit slash. Oh you know a winter This is you know, really 446 00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.200 nice, uh fleece inside. You can even put like a hot pocket in 447 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:06.359 here on a super cold day. Smart. They're waterproof and what's the name 448 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.960 of that one. I believe that we call these the lobster claws, what 449 00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:16.480 was the final name. That was my suggestion, But we just released these 450 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:22.400 this week, so we built those with a great partner, and yeah, 451 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.680 we wanted to build. So that was another one where we looked at and 452 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.799 said, you know, you could make a winter glove, a glove that 453 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.759 is warmer, slightly thicker, and you could wear it in you know, 454 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.359 those really cold days, maybe in the thirties and forties. But we just 455 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.039 felt like, you still want to play with feel, and the best thing 456 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.680 to do is keep your hands warm, you know, with these cart mits, 457 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.640 and when you get to your shot, take these off. Use a 458 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:53.200 proper glove with good feel, hit your shot and move on. Versus a 459 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:58.079 warmer, thicker glove that you can barely feel the club in. Maybe your 460 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.279 hands are warm, but it's tough to score and actually play. So yeah, 461 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.519 thank you for that clarification, because I'm thinking, how do you swing 462 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.920 a yeah with that thing on? Hey, Fred, let me let me 463 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.960 ask you a question about our ring gloves. Did you have I'm sorry, 464 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:21.079 Brad, I'm the one who asked the question, Kerrie, so go ahead. 465 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.719 I lost my train of thought for a second. No, I'm good 466 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:29.639 at that did you have any experience with brain gloves before you tried ours, 467 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.199 and what's your experience when they get wet? Were you trying to protect them? 468 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.920 Because I know how the idea that we built them with was, you 469 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.079 know, you got to try to keep them dry, like you don't have 470 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.440 to make you know, the crazy effort to do so. But they do. 471 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.480 They work better somewhat dry, like you're not sticking them in the cooler 472 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.320 like you would with other companies that say, hey, get these soaking wet 473 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.119 and they perform amazing. But I'd be interested in your feedback because we've had, 474 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.800 you know, people go to Scotland and say these are the best things 475 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.320 ever. I did have a guy that went to Bandon a couple of weeks 476 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.559 ago and he said, well, they got super super wet and they weren't 477 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.239 the best thing that I've ever tried. So I was like, we need 478 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.760 to figure out and I think we know the answer already, but we need 479 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.039 to figure out kind of how to position these as what's the best way that 480 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.079 they work, and to talk through it with customers like you is probably the 481 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:31.480 best way to do it. Oh interesting, So I didn't take them off 482 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.119 like I said, I even putt with them and then and the rain was 483 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:43.599 about an hour and a half. I never had an issue with the clubs 484 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:49.840 slipping. I you know, I hate when when the grips on clubs get 485 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.880 wet. So I don't even like laying my putter down on the ground right 486 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.960 on the on the on the grip. So I'll take the head cover and 487 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.400 you know, use that as a stand, or my give a tool and 488 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.559 use it as a stand so the glove the grips don't get onto the ground 489 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:12.400 to get moist at all. And so again the grip was never compromised. 490 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:19.840 But after let's see, we were on the hole seventh or eighth hole, 491 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:27.639 I finally decided I'm going to pull the glove off just to give my hand 492 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:31.960 a break because my hand was wet, which I was really surprised how moist 493 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.679 my hand was. And yet I didn't feel like the glove was being compromised 494 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.079 as far as losing its grip. So I aired them out for you know, 495 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.800 in between holes as I was walking, and put them back on and 496 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.159 kept them on until I think the eleventh or twelfth hole. Okay, so 497 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.800 that makes that makes a lot of sense. I answered your oh, you 498 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.719 totally did. So they're not they're not waterproof. They're not meant to be 499 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:02.480 to keep your hands dry. They're meant to perform, you know, on 500 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.360 your golf shots. So we're not protecting your body. We're trying to help 501 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.719 you play better, better golf. Right, So so yeah, I think 502 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.079 just hearing that solidifies what we need maybe need to do a little bit better 503 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.239 job of, and our messaging for the rain rooster is, which is these 504 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.199 aren't meant to keep your hands dry. It was kind of the compromise at 505 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.360 the end, so we did like five iterations of these, and there was 506 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.639 lots of different materials, so we in the end we put this this nylon 507 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.880 between the fingers and it allows for like a little bit of breathe ability, 508 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.400 but it was also it was mostly a feel thing. We wanted the gloves 509 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.639 to really like and we wanted to have this really thin pomp. So it's 510 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.920 a very thin palm so it has really good contact. It's got these silicone 511 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.039 roosters for grip, but it's a very thin glove and because of this, 512 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.119 we were able to seal this up. When we sealed it up, the 513 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.880 glove was kind of bomb proof. So nothing got in, but we also 514 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.920 found like hands got really really hot and nothing also kind of got out, 515 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.519 and the glove felt like hotter and warmer and thicker and it was So that 516 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.360 was the compromise we ended up making, as we were like, Okay, 517 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:20.800 it's not sealed, so because of that, some water can actually get in 518 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.639 it. I do kind of take mine on and off even while I play. 519 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.440 I love the field, but it's you know, if we could make 520 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.679 two versions, there probably would be the like secure waterproof one, but that 521 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.639 one's really for those days where it's like it's battle golf, right and you're 522 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.280 when it's raining that hard, it's home, it's it's a struggle anyway. 523 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.000 And yeah, it feel one's more for that like round where it's it's going 524 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.960 to be raining and you still need to be able to like have a glove 525 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:57.079 that holds up and still like performs for you versus the like torrential downpour. 526 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.480 Yeah, I feel like if you're playing in the rain and it's going to 527 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:06.360 compromise the way you play, that means you probably have to play like you're 528 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.880 you're playing for a reason, you're playing for score. It's a tournament, 529 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.719 it's a member, guest, whatever it is, you can't go home. 530 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.760 So in that case, we wanted to make something for performance and not you 531 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.039 know, one hundred percent, well, I just want to stay dry. 532 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.159 Well, if you really want to stay dry, you're probably going home, 533 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.239 right if it's that bad, Like you said, Fred, So I think 534 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.679 I think that I don't want to call it a compromise. I want to 535 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:36.599 call it we're we're making gloves for people to help them play their best. 536 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.400 And so with the with the rain rooster, and like carry said, it 537 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:45.480 took forever to or what felt like forever, to come up with the ideal 538 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:52.039 rain glove, because I've played rain gloves that are frankly not great and the 539 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.599 feel is compromised and it was hard to play well. So I think, 540 00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.679 if again, you want to be known for something right, And in this 541 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.760 case, it's like I'm taking these to Bandon, to Ireland, to Scotland 542 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.840 and using them because I want to play well on my golf trip. I 543 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:13.079 don't want to just have the experience of being there. I want to play 544 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.760 well. And so that that was kind of well, Brad, how many 545 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:22.519 guys on tour would wear rain gloves? You know, the tournament round. 546 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.559 The guy that I think of right away as Michelson, he was never shy 547 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:30.639 to break out both gloves right, left hand right. I tried to once 548 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.960 for one hole in a Q school actually, and I made a double bogie 549 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.920 on the easiest part four you've ever you'll ever see, and I just thought, 550 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.960 this is the worst feel. I can't it's not working. I've never 551 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.920 had a glove on my right hand before, and I never want to have 552 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.239 a glove on my right hand ever again. So I'm an exclusive and it 553 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.039 became a mental thing. Yeah that's going to kill you, right, Yeah, 554 00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:00.199 So left hand only for me for rain gloves, and it just feels 555 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.360 so important, even more so in the rain because, like you said, 556 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.440 Fred can't stand the wet grips can't stand like I just it drives me nuts 557 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.400 as well. So that was kind of our thought process with it, and 558 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.119 it came out really really well. They're so popular. We think that's yeah, 559 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:22.800 it's been a home run. Yeah no, And I just love well. 560 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.480 Mine are black with the red little roosters on it, and I got 561 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.960 that just after I returned from my trip to Japan in twenty twenty two, 562 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.639 and it was like perfect. It looks Japanese. I love it all right. 563 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.639 We're going to take another time out and when we come back, we 564 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.519 will get to twenty twenty four and talk about what's happened in Red Rooster Golf 565 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.440 in the coming twelve months. We'll be back after this. This week on 566 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.719 Golf Smarter, Mulligan's is a fascinating conversation with Mike Peterson, who trained to 567 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:59.199 compete for the Olympics to Caflon, but turned his focus toward the biomechanics of 568 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.599 the golf swing. Now many of us experience some pain after a round of 569 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:09.000 golf, but here Mike helps us to isolate and identify exactly where it's coming 570 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:14.960 from. I want you to really get inside your body, and as you're 571 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.480 swinging and hitting a ball, there might be a sensation, there might be 572 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.760 a pinching fuel, there might be a tight feeling, or there might be 573 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:27.199 pain. At certain points, you can start narrowing down what's causing that pain 574 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.760 in your golf swing, even without having a teaching pro. Think of your 575 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.840 body for a second. So when you hit that ball, are you experiencing 576 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.320 pain at impact? If it's that impact, is it a risk, is 577 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.199 it a knee, a hip, lower back, and then from there, 578 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:40.880 take a look at the position your body's at, you know, kind of 579 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.679 slow down a little bit and say, wow, you know, my hips 580 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:45.719 they seem what we're kind of jammed up. And then boy, that back 581 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.119 hurts right there on that lower right side. Well, your hips aren't clearing, 582 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.000 your hips aren't rotate. But I would say if you're getting back into 583 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.360 the swing of things, you truly have to go to the range at least 584 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.159 one time and just casually leisurely hit some balls just to kind of see what 585 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.000 you got, see how your body responds to it, and then typically the 586 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.800 next day you'll know from a conditioning standpoint if you got something wrong. Originally 587 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:14.280 published in May of twenty twelve as Golf Smarter for members only, episode three 588 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.960 hundred and thirty four. This is the first time that we've ever shared at 589 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.960 publicly, so you don't want to miss at this time. That's episode two 590 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.800 hundred and forty one of Golf Smarter Mulligans with Mike Peterson talking about how to 591 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:31.039 hit longer drives and hit the ball more efficiently, all while being pain free 592 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:36.760 when playing golf. So if you like the variety of topics and guests that 593 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.119 we provide here at Golf Smarter. Then don't miss the chance to get insights, 594 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:46.159 advice and the gamut of conversations around golf twice each week with Golf Smarter 595 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:52.599 and Golf Smarter Mulligans. They're both available for free from wherever you're listening right 596 00:43:52.639 --> 00:44:00.199 now, Brad, as we're having this conversation, we're getting a chance look 597 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.599 at each other. You wear a wedding ring, a wedding band on your 598 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.480 left hand, I do. Do you wear it when you play golf? 599 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:15.159 Not a chance. I've actually lost this is a very expensive three dollars rubber 600 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.960 ring. Because I've lost two fairly expensive wedding bands and I wasn't going down 601 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.280 the road of a third one. But even the rubber one I can't wear 602 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.519 when I play golf. The last time I tried wasn't It wasn't too long 603 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.039 ago. It was about six eight months ago, and on my home course, 604 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.440 I was five over after four holes and I thought, that's not your 605 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.760 game, that's not my game. So I put it away. And the 606 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.000 funny part is I haven't lost the rubber one ever, and you, frustratingly, 607 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.159 it'll always find its way back. I had a good I had a 608 00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.480 good system. I lost the first one at Sea Island on the PGA tour. 609 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.199 Unfortunately, I had a good system where you know, you have your 610 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.480 your credentials and you have the lanyard on, and I'd take the lanyard off 611 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.480 and I put the ring so the lanyard went in between it. I'd wrap 612 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.599 it around the credential, put it in my bag, can't lose it, 613 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.840 and somewhere from locker room to first tea it disappeared. And lost the other 614 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.239 one in my home club about a year and a half later, and that 615 00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:24.039 was that. It was a sign, It was a sign to go. 616 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:29.119 You know, I think my wife bought these four for twelve dollars on Amazon, 617 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.440 and just the symbolic nature of it, right, that's it. I 618 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:38.039 lost my wedding ring on a golf trip. I was like, I know, 619 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.119 I wait, I know. When I took it off. I never 620 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.480 found it again. And we had our wedding rings custom made. Luckily, 621 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.920 I found the woman who had made them, who had moved to South Carolina, 622 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:55.960 and she made me a duplicate. So I now rarely wear it. 623 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.519 Well, I never wear it if I'm playing. Have systems of all right, 624 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.519 I'm going to put it here, but try to remember before you leave 625 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.079 the house, put it in the drawer and just leave it there. So 626 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:14.880 so, anyway, last week my wife lost her wedding and had nothing to 627 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.840 do with golf. And since then, I've taken mine off and I haven't 628 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:24.280 put it. But don't tell her. My wife doesn't even let me have 629 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.920 my wedding band. She's like, you can't be trusted with us. Ouch. 630 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.039 I would just I would leave. I would have my wedding and you 631 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:38.039 have four kids and you can't be trusted with a wedding band. It's okay, 632 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.280 smart move. I didn't fight her on it. I don't know how 633 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.159 I haven't lost it, but it would be in my I remember time. 634 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.599 It would be in my golf bag for like the entire summer. I would 635 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.719 just take it and put it in there, and I would just leave it. 636 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:58.440 She's like, somebody's gonna take your bag, and so now and her 637 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.159 purview and that's probably be a safe spot. All right, let's get to 638 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.840 twenty twenty four. What do you guys got coming up? What's gonna happen 639 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.119 with Because you know you've got you've been growing since you started this company. 640 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.400 It's really been impressive to watch and excited to hear what you got coming up 641 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:21.559 next. Yeah, I think we're always coming up with the seasonal gloves. 642 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.079 Those are always a hit. Anything new, fun, you know, fun 643 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.880 colors and styles. I think what we realized this past year is that golfers 644 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.800 really love to match their their glove to their outfit. And so we dabbled 645 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.880 with with a couple of different products and one of them that was a real 646 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:45.920 home run for us was actually socks. So we we we met this partner 647 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.519 at the PGA Show and we made a custom sock with them. We put 648 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.559 it that we've been done done a lot of collaboration with our our audience. 649 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.559 So when we're thinking of a new product, we do a lot of surveys. 650 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.840 They tell us what they're looking for. Socks was one that was on 651 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.599 the radar, like a good pair of you know, ankle socks for golf, 652 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.679 and so we had looked at it was you know, a survey. 653 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.159 We asked, you know, were there any recommendations, and it was sort 654 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.519 of all over the place. There wasn't kind of like us saw company that 655 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.880 that jumped out, Just like with gloves, when we ask you know, 656 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.320 what's your favorite glove, it was all over the place. So so we've 657 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.400 we made this, uh made these ankle socks and and honestly, I thought 658 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.840 they were the best socks I've ever had. There was a real nice mix. 659 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.599 It was mostly sort of like a nylon, so they got a bit 660 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.559 of stretch to them. They're super durable, really comfortable, great moisture wicking 661 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.400 all that. And so we're going to dabble a little bit more in that. 662 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.760 Just those we we did that collaboration. Those we we I think it 663 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.639 was like three or four hundred of them. They flew in a couple of 664 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.360 weeks. Just makes a nice compliment. They actually ship really well with our 665 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.000 gloves, so that it's it's a nice add on. Everybody can probably use 666 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.719 a couple new pairs of socks every year. So yeah, absolutely, so 667 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.519 that that that one's been, that one's been a good one. And how 668 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:14.000 many sizes do you have it? Well, then that's the nice part is 669 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:19.199 coming to universal size. So uh, I think you can get one bigger 670 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.360 like an XCEL, but literally come in a in an universal size. So 671 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.159 I'm sure they're Yeah, they call it the seven to eleven. They call 672 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.960 it so pretty pretty broad plays to the middle. So it's simple obviously, 673 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.440 like our gloves are pretty complicated what we're trying to do there, And you 674 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.920 know, we we spoke. We rounded out our suite of gloves. We've 675 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.239 got our you know, our practice glove. We've got our performance line with 676 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:50.079 how they have a little bit more stretched through the knuckles and through the palm, 677 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.199 with our our cape and silky gloves, and then we've got our wide 678 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.000 range of we call it our classic line. Those are you know, one 679 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.920 hundred percent Cabretta leather, are super durable, great feel. This past year 680 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.239 we launched the Sussex, So that was our tournament glove. We were we 681 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.880 were lacking that. We didn't have that, you know, that thin soft 682 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:14.599 glove. You know, we've got the rain Rooster. Now we've got the 683 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.440 you know, the cart Mits, Winter Mits, and then I think, 684 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.679 you know, we we've always had the glove compartment. That's been a hit, 685 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.159 you know, Fred, with your audience. That's what they get with 686 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:29.239 love. Yeah, when we when we give to our golf Smarter ambassadors, 687 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.840 they get a glove and the gloves storage compartment, which I think is so 688 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.480 great I love having it in my bag because it's not the only thing I 689 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.920 keep in there, but it is, you know, gloves or sleeves, 690 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.360 you know, like I have the kind of sleeves that are just pull up 691 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.840 because I don't like wearing long sleeved shirts because I always get too hot. 692 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.760 But if it's just a little too cool, I can just put those leaves 693 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.840 on. So I put that my glove storage department. Nice. And I 694 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.519 also keep one of those little pads that heat up, you know, of 695 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.280 your feet get cool. You know what you go also put in the apartment 696 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:09.079 as your wedding ring zips up. Yeah, when I put it back on, 697 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.519 if you can find it, no, I know where it is. 698 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.760 I know where it is. And then this is our our lot. This 699 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.599 is sort of a compliment to the to the to the glove compartment. So 700 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:27.719 that was one of those things when you held something up at our listening audience 701 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.280 you said this, and they don't know what you sure, So that this 702 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.760 isn't we call this word carry it's a it's a glove wallet, we'll call 703 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:38.960 it. So it's a it's a higher end version of the glove compartment, 704 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.320 the glove compartment. Say that you know, it's great because it's got the 705 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.360 velcrow on both sides. You can rotate gloves during the round. You can 706 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.519 hang it on your bag, or you can put it in your bag, 707 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.920 so it's got this is more meant to be, you know, a spot 708 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:59.480 to keep those gloves flat and dry between rounds, so you can preserve them. 709 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.039 It's also not you can slide it into the side of your bag. 710 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.679 You can keep it in your locker. So it's just another version. It 711 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.679 can be customized. We're working with some partners. This is obviously heavy red 712 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.840 rooster branding, but it could have you know, a club's logo, or 713 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.599 it could be set up for a member, guest, something that's a little 714 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.239 bit more customized. And and it doesn't hang on your bag. That's the 715 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.639 one. Some people love the glove compartment, but they don't want something on 716 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:29.639 the outside of their bag they've got maybe they've already got towel and you know, 717 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.440 Rangefinder, et cetera. So this is a sort of answer to that. 718 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:39.880 Great great and the branding is always there and it's a it's a great 719 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:44.599 logo. The branding is so right on and consistent. I love that. 720 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.000 Also Head Covers did you did I see head covers on your website. Yeah. 721 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.800 We we have a mix of accessories. You've got some hats and you 722 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:59.760 know, towels and headcovers and those have all sold really well. Just you 723 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:04.880 know, some nice branding there's just you know, we've done some collaborations with 724 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.480 you know, Stitch on a golf bag and with Precision Pro on a range 725 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.639 finder. It never helps, you know, you know, never hurts to 726 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.840 get your your brand out there. We love to see you know, the 727 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.159 headcovers usually the you know, the best sort of visibility you can you can 728 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.000 get on a golf bag. So we've come up with some some fun things 729 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:27.440 there. But you know, we'll probably sold fifty thousand golf gloves this past 730 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.559 year. So it's golf gloves are what we do. That that's that's our 731 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.760 bread and butter. That's our core, you know, and we love our 732 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.280 other accessories. They're they're great, but we you know, are our main 733 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:45.079 thing is to continue to focus on our on our you know, repeat customers, 734 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.679 subscribers and otherwise that you know that love our gloves and we want to 735 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.400 be able to offer them any glove they'll need for for any occasion, any 736 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.559 weather any you know, a tournament round, a practice round, a golf 737 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.960 simula. So we feel really comfortable with the line of gloves, the suite 738 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.119 of gloves, and always coming up with, you know, some fun colors 739 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:13.719 and style those types of things, just seasonally to complement it. But you 740 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.559 say seasonally, you mean like depending on a tour, like a master's colors, 741 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.639 think that kind of seasonal. Yeah, you're right, exactly. Okay, 742 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.360 Okay, Well, listen, there's still plenty to talk about about in 743 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.639 regards to your product line. So let's take one last break and we'll be 744 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:38.960 back for our last segment. Do you have any big brimmed hats. We're 745 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:45.599 working on a bucket hat. I have to say, and this is one 746 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.400 of those soap boxes that I get on, but I really really wish the 747 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:58.480 PGA would step up and stop promoting baseball caps because it's not healthy compared to 748 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.480 a big brim hat exposing the sides of your face usually if you put sunscreens 749 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:07.079 on. If you put on sunscreen, you just put it on your face, 750 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:08.679 but you're not covering your neck, you're not covering your ears, you're 751 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:13.599 not covering the back of your neck. And big brims, big brim hats 752 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.000 will do that, and I really think that the PGA should step up and 753 00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:21.280 say we need to be a little more health conscious here. But that's my 754 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.280 own soapbox. Yeah, I mean, I'm a redhead, so I'm a 755 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.800 big brim guy. I got the I got the solar sleeves and because I 756 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.719 don't like to, you know, I have to wear sunscreen, but but 757 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:39.280 I like to, you know, protect myself. And so we are working 758 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.639 on so we'll share some designs with you. We're having some fun with it. 759 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.199 We I'd love to see it, but no, it's important too right 760 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.760 to have to have some options. And it is a bit surprising that there's 761 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.000 not more, you know, I mean really just Joel Damon is but the 762 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:58.320 only guy. And even that exactly relative. That's not a wide brim hat. 763 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:01.639 It's it's more than a bucket. Though it is more than a bucket. 764 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:07.280 Yeah. Yeah. My own personal experience with wide brim hats ended around 765 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.760 when I was thirteen, fourteen years old. Back then it was the Greg 766 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:20.280 Norman Shark at right, and all I found was that on my that's on 767 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.760 my uh yeah, it looked really great in it, as you can imagine. 768 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:29.559 But everything I always found was that in my through swing, I would 769 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.800 hit it with the shaft of my club and it would get you know, 770 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.440 flicked off my head or whatever. And after about a week, I just 771 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:43.159 thought to myself, time for as not it's not working. Yeah, I 772 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.639 could see that. It just that that's just what it was. I mean, 773 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.559 honestly, Fred, you're talking to the two whitest guys you probably know, 774 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.880 and Carrie and I, so we are very familiar with the the sun 775 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.559 and its effects. I wear a ton of sunscreen, always have had to, 776 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.840 and so but but I I hear what you're saying, because yeah, 777 00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.360 late later in life, it's not super unexpected, right, you go to 778 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.519 that dermatologist and they're just saying, well, here, here, here, 779 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.239 and here, we're going to burn these off for you before they get any 780 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.320 I made some I made. I made a series of videos for a dermatology 781 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:21.599 office and I had to interview all these people who had skin cancer. And 782 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.599 it's like, you know, people who loved being out in the sun growing 783 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:28.880 up and we're never you know, using sunscreen, are never wearing big hats, 784 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.800 and now it's like they have to and it's like it's just a simple 785 00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:36.760 preventative thing to do. So yeah, yeah, turned my head. So 786 00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.679 yeah, I just I'm not a fan of the baseball cap because of it. 787 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.519 Okay. And then the other thing going on with Red Rooster Golf is 788 00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:49.760 you guys do a podcast. We do, and and as we talked about 789 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.360 on the pre show, Fred, it's a lot harder than we thought it 790 00:57:52.400 --> 00:58:00.159 was going to be. So we had exactly we had a vision of doing 791 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:06.000 what was it, Carrie once every two weeks, and I'd say at least 792 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.760 we were we knew I was like, you know, I think we can 793 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.679 do every two weeks. Certainly like once a week was an impossibility. Were 794 00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:17.280 at least we sort of figured that out. But from the very start we 795 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.360 were scrambling. Yep, you know, it was just it felt like every 796 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.760 two weeks we were like under the gun. Everything was coming down to the 797 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:30.480 wire. And so we ended up, you know, sort of taking the 798 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.960 summer off. We were so busy and doing so many different things. We 799 00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.280 knew we just sort of couldn't keep up with it. And then we came 800 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.559 back to it this fall with once a month, and we just feel like 801 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:45.920 that's what's reasonable for us. We really love the idea I actually really enjoy 802 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.639 it. It is a lot of work, but I just love the long 803 00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:54.000 form nature of it. There's just a storytelling element. There isn't there isn't 804 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.320 a medium like it. And I love podcasts, you know, I love 805 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:04.000 yours, and you know, there are just a few that that I listened 806 00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.840 to on an ongoing basis. I find it relaxing. I love to walk 807 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.840 and put my or even go. You know, this morning, I went 808 00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.800 for a run and I love to listen to a podcast when I exercise and 809 00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.280 do some different things. So I think it is a great medium. And 810 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:22.280 we wanted to have some sort of connection to our audience, and I think 811 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.119 we've found that like that cadence of once a month is feasible for us. 812 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.119 It is a big undertaking. So we definitely appreciate what you're doing and how 813 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.000 you're doing it. Yeah, there's here's the secret for me to be able 814 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:40.239 to do it weekly empty nest right, just so I find if the kids 815 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.960 were still around, it would be not possible to do this every week on 816 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.599 no way. And I think our idea of what we wanted our podcast to 817 00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:55.320 be was, you know, half on the product update, development feedback side 818 00:59:55.320 --> 01:00:00.440 of it, and then also we want to get guests from the goal world, 819 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:04.320 and we've had a few guys on. We had Adam had went on 820 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:09.039 PGA Tour player Roger Sloane who who just made a was about a twelve footer 821 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:14.679 on the seventy second hole of the Corn Fairy Tour final event to get his 822 01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.559 card for next year on the PGA Tour. We had him on last a 823 01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:22.760 couple of weeks ago, and just those kind of stories are also, you 824 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:27.760 know, it's outside of the business world of golf, but also super prevalent, 825 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:34.199 you know, because so many people watch professional golf, they aspire to 826 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.480 play better, and these guys have some really great insights on what they're feeling 827 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:43.760 when they're you know, in the arena right and you get some surprising answers 828 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:51.159 sometimes. Oh, I was always very honest about I was proverbiably doing stuff 829 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.239 in my pants a lot of the time while I was playing PGA Tour events. 830 01:00:54.320 --> 01:01:00.400 And I think it was Roger Sloane who who said it was five man 831 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:05.880 playoff at the window, maybe a six man playoffs a couple of years ago, 832 01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:09.920 and it was you know, Adam Scott, Kevin Kisner, Kevin nah 833 01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.840 the list of players was impressive, and he said, man, I was 834 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:19.000 so calm. I didn't know why, but I was so calm, And 835 01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.519 I'm thinking that's odd. It was odd to me because it was the biggest 836 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.480 moment of his entire career, without a doubt, and all these players have 837 01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:31.760 all this pedigree and he's sitting there like, h, this is fun and 838 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.559 that's how you play your best. How you get there is a mystery, 839 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:42.480 right, And I think that's just an interesting part of golf competitive sports, 840 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:47.159 you know, and it's unique to golf because it's just you alone with your 841 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.440 thoughts and you can't react in the moment like you can with hockey or baseball 842 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:58.079 or football. Those are all reaction sports, right, and golf is so 843 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.199 different and so unique in that regard. So it's fun to hear the guys 844 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:06.280 like that talk about what they're feeling. I've always wanted to talk to Steph 845 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.280 Curry about his golf game. And it's like, you know, you're so 846 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.119 when you're on the basketball court and you do something big, you're like getting 847 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:22.400 the crowd fired up and you get all, you know, cheerleader, and 848 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.960 you get in somebody's face and you're trash talking. You can't do that on 849 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.239 a golf courner. How is he able to make, you know, to 850 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.039 calm himself down to get to a place in golf where he's able to play 851 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:38.119 successfully and not do How does you know if he did this stuff on the 852 01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:44.559 basketball court, if he would do that on the golf course, it would 853 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.000 be a complete people would not want to play. Honestly. It's probably why 854 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:54.440 baseball pitchers tend to be really good golfers, because they are alone by themselves 855 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:59.599 and they have to think through their cadence of pitches, right and think about 856 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.639 the batter that's in front of them. And obviously they have coaches and you 857 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:05.800 know the catchers kind of tell yeah, but they only play every fifth day. 858 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.679 True that too, so they get to play golf during the day when 859 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:12.719 everybody else. That's a really good point. I didn't think that way. 860 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:16.320 Yeah, that's why. Yeah, I've always I've always the middle reliever. 861 01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:22.480 Well he's that he could be there every days. The starting pictures, starting 862 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:27.239 pictures best the best job in the world, right, Well, if you 863 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.159 can get they are most of the guys, like the best guys in that 864 01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:38.239 you know, the celebrity tournament out in in Reno are quite often. Yeah, 865 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.039 former starting pitcher, Yeah, John Small, the Tahoe one, yeah, 866 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:45.760 John Great, Mark Mulder played for the A's. You would know that 867 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.599 it's the one that Curry hit the hole and won this pass. That's right. 868 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.559 Yeah, that was That was super cool. That was amazing. That 869 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:58.480 was amazing. Anyway, Well, it's great to talk to you guys. 870 01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.679 It was wonderful to have you back, and again I really appreciate your continued 871 01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:06.000 support of Golf Smarter. Oh, before you go, Carrie, what podcasts 872 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.239 you listen to? What can you recommend? I I go all over the 873 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:20.800 place. I love uh, I love Dax Shepherd's podcast. It's just sort 874 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:29.679 of wide ranging. I like I like listening to Ink magazine. They do 875 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.280 a lot of different like founder stories and I love yours. And then we 876 01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:43.239 have a couple of other partners group Golf Therapy. They do a great podcast 877 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.280 on sort of the mental side of golf. And and then another great partner 878 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:53.960 with the par Train, a couple of of sort of a sort of low 879 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:59.360 handicap and a scratch golfer and sort of their journey. So I like a 880 01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.639 wide range stuff. I love audio, audio, audio books and uh, 881 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:08.440 wow, and it's kind of hard to do both. Uh. Yeah, 882 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:11.119 I try to find the time. I used to be a big reader and 883 01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:13.679 now i'm you know, I don't read as much, but I like to 884 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:18.000 kind of like walk and listen. So uh and yeah. Audible used to 885 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.559 be a sponsor of podcasts. Yeah, in the early days of podcasting, 886 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.119 they were big on it, and then they realized you either listen to podcasts 887 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.840 or you listen to audio books. But it's hard to do both. Sure, 888 01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.599 both of those into your life. Yeah, so yeah, yeah. 889 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.280 If I can recommend a podcast I'm listening to right now, I'm just absolutely 890 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:44.800 blown away by it. It's Soledad O'Brien from MSNBC and Rob Reiner are doing 891 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:50.840 a weekly podcast called Who Killed jfk Oh. It's so good, oh man, 892 01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:57.440 And it's all about how Lee Harvey Oswald There's no possible way, you 893 01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:00.960 know, they're calling the greatest murder mystery of all time. There's no possible 894 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.239 way that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. And when you start learning about the 895 01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.599 Who's a CIA operative, You're like, oh, okay, that's me. 896 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.519 Yeah, so that's my recommend. Okay, all right, Brad, do 897 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.519 you you know did you see it on my face? Fred? Is that? 898 01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:19.800 What is that? What happened? I'll say this? And when you 899 01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:26.079 left the rooms, Brad, I kind of figured. As Carrie was talking 900 01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.360 there about what he likes, I was going through my head. Why don't 901 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:34.199 I listened to podcasts. I've always been a fiction reader, always been fascinated 902 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:41.039 with spy novels, government machinations, stuff like that. And I think it's 903 01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:47.519 because my career was so I don't want to say out in front. It 904 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:54.800 was just the day to day grind was was so not tiring physically, but 905 01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:59.320 tiring mentally, and I just wanted to escape. And so I was just 906 01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:03.199 a big fiction reader. So I have not delved into podcasts, like, 907 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:08.840 not one single bit. I was a frequent guest on a radio show here 908 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:14.079 in Raleigh, North Carolina, on a sports radio show. The two guys 909 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.119 became good friends. They got let go, as what happens in the radio 910 01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:21.960 industry, they immediately started a podcast. I really hate the guy who replaced 911 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.039 them at three o'clock and guess what I listened to in the car. I 912 01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:30.400 listened to the guy at three o'clock because I can't figure out podcasting on my 913 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.599 phone I can't figure it out. It's not hard, I know, but 914 01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:36.719 the transition from I get a text, I get a phone call, it's 915 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:42.719 interrupted. I have to go back Fred, I can't do it. Stick 916 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:48.440 to golf. I'm just a golfer. I'm just a all right guys. 917 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:53.679 Well again, thank you again for your support and for continuing to allow us 918 01:07:53.719 --> 01:08:00.320 to give away the red Rooster glove and glove storage compartment to all of our 919 01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.400 Golf Smarter ambassadors who introduced an episode as we heard at the beginning of this 920 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:10.559 show, and continued continued success and good luck. And I guess maybe in 921 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:15.079 twenty twenty five we'll talk about the companies that are trying to buy man, 922 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:17.319 let's find out we're trying to buy. That's right, let's fast forward to 923 01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:23.439 that year. That sounds fun. We'll definitely come on for that one. 924 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:31.000 As you may have noticed from our newest Golf Smarter Ambassador, Stephen Anderson from 925 01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:34.920 Cincinnati, Ohio, at the beginning of the show, he recorded his episode 926 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:40.479 opening at home and then emailed me the file. Could you hear the difference? 927 01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:45.840 Here's Stephen again. This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and twenty five, 928 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:49.680 and now here's last week's Ambassador, John Dobson of Juaukee, Iowa, 929 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:54.960 that he recorded on our toll free listener line. This is Golf Smarter number 930 01:08:55.039 --> 01:09:00.880 nine hundred twenty four. Not only is the quality radically different in my ears, 931 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:04.359 but I can understand now why. Stephen says that besides his obsession with 932 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:09.640 golf, he also does voiceover work. In my email exchange with him, 933 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:16.319 Stephen said that he goes to the Masters every year because of an amazing grandpa 934 01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.520 that was on the wait list for thirty years before he got tickets in the 935 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:25.800 late eighties. He also claimed that he found golf Smarter because he was sick 936 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:31.119 of being okay at golf. Thank you, Steven, and how's this for 937 01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:36.680 lucky timing. Stephen chose to receive a new glove and glove storage compartment from 938 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:43.520 Brad and Kerrie at redroostergolf dot Com after today's conversation. I hope that you 939 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:47.840 too will sign up to become a Golf Smarter Ambassador by recording an upcoming show 940 01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:55.359 opening to receive a free gift of your choice that could include Redroostergolf dot Com. 941 01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:00.359 Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost Fundamental or a box of Odin ex one 942 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:03.399 balls with the golf Smarter logo. Just write to me directly and I'll send 943 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:09.800 you simple instructions on how to record an episode opening that takes less than a 944 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:13.960 minute. Check out today's show notes to click on some links about each gift 945 01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.920 that you have to choose from now. Over the next couple of weeks, 946 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:23.159 as our holiday shopping list continues to grow, we're going to hear more from 947 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:28.479 some of my favorite products we've come across here on golf Smarter, including doctor 948 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:33.239 Daniel Whalin on his flight Path golf tees, which some reviewers and websites are 949 01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:39.439 now claiming are the greatest golf tees ever invented. And for Christmas Week, 950 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:45.000 we'll hear from Sam Hahn of Lab Golf Putters on the impact that Adam Scott's 951 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:51.239 and Lucas Glover's PGA tour successes are having on the sale of Lab golf putters. 952 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:57.880 Also, we'll get an important and exclusive announcement from Sam about their newest 953 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.960 putter being released after the new year. To see and hear the most compelling 954 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:08.159 and helpful short tips and insights of our podcast interviews for both golf Smarter and 955 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:13.479 golf Smarter mulligans. Please follow us on social at golf Smarter, on YouTube, 956 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:18.399 TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, and x for our ongoing posts 957 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:23.560 of videos and articles that are now appearing five times each week. If you 958 01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.960 have any questions, comments, suggestions for upcoming episodes, or want to join 959 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.520 our list of golf Smarter Ambassadors who've received a free gift, write to golf 960 01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:38.119 Smarter Podcast at gmail dot com or click on the Heyfred button when you visit 961 01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:42.560 golfsmarter dot com