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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
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Cookie on Steve's Jay. Now we
have some breaking news. Oh we do

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well? Yeah the music as I
on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty eight. All right,
well, I was the lead with something

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else. But then you reminded me
of this because I saw this this morning

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and the number of media reports,
including one from Justin Spears over Theears on

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a Daily Star, that Lewis Holmes
was one of the top recruits ever really

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at Arizona. He was the number
one junior college recruit that back in two

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thousand and six. St. Mike
Stoops has passed away at thirty eight,

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thirty eight years old. So no
no word on how or what or anything

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like that, but that Lewis Holmes, and you know, what's a guy

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that you know, we use him
as an example of a guy who just

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didn't materialize too great recruits and stuff
like that. And you know, we

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joke sometimes and we criticize sometimes but
you know you feel bad. And here's

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the guy that you know only lasted
thirty year's not very long man. That

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is way too young. Whatever happened, it's way too young. Our our

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condolences to his family and friends and
and and so on. UM. A

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tough thing too, a tough thing
to go through. UM all right,

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UM we mentioned uh the US Open. Uh two players shot sixty two sat

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in a US Open record. Uh
Ricky Ricky Foller and Xander Shaffley. So

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we'll see what what that? What
that um translates to tomorrow when these guys

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come back and play the same course
all over again. Here's a weird story,

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not a weird stor just another unfortunate
story. Beyond Sanders? Have you

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seen this beyond Sanders? But who's
been having, you know, a long

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time issues with his left foot,
long long ago, had his big toe

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and second toe amputated because of blood
clots. Now he's looking at some sort

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of a surgery to fix a toe
that he's calls dislocated. But he's being

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told, this is a reported out
of a sports illustrator being told by his

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doctor, if we do the surgery
that you're asking us to do, there's

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a chance you can lose your foot
all together, so that he's missing some

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football work. Yeah, camp.
Yeah, And so he says he's got

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no feeling in the bottom of his
bottom of his left foot and he's got

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constant pain, and uh, his
doctors have said this is a risk.

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So we'll see what what he decides
to do. You know, I've seen

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a thing where he was on with
somebody talking about his foot, and it's

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just it's just really bad. Just
one of those things as an athlete,

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you know, your feet back covering
basketball, I remember the players being told,

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you know, take care of your
feet, uh, you know,

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and where the right shoe and don't
do anything stupid because your feet are the

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most important thing you got going for
you if you're an athlete. If your

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feet are messed up, it's hard
to be it's hard to be. Well.

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I remember with the Luke when he
first came in as a freshman and

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all that he got hurt in his
ankles, and you're thinking, oh,

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no quote because so no obviously,
because that's right, and he overcame that

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and then he had a great career, right um you mentioned um um.

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Trevor Bauer. The picture of the
Dodgers got got accused of another sexual assault

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by another another female. Um Connor
McGregor now is being accused of sexually assaulting

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a woman at a basketball game.
Um it's a night the same night he

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knocked the mask, not the same
night he knocked the maskcot out Game four

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of the Finals in Miami, And
it doesn't go into details as to what

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the assault may have consisted of,
but it's been reported due to the Miami

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Police Department, they are investigating it. He's denied y the allegations, but

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apparently he's been He's being accused of
some sort of a sexual assault that was

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done at the arena and that I
have no idea how you how you pull

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that one off, but apparently h
something is alleged to have happened there.

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So anyways, um USC, because
they don't have enough good things, has

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announced that they're they're putting millions of
millions of dollars in building a new football

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performance center, a three story performance
center with a roof deeck on top,

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and adding a full length field to
their practice facility, which is right there

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on campus, just north of the
LA Coliseum where the store, the where

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the campuses and they're also going to
make do some work on or some enhancements

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to Dato Field, which is their
baseball stadium right next door, and then

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also their Rowlinson Stadium, their soccer
stadium on the other side of the baseball

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on the other side of the football
facility. But again, millions of dollars.

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I think we're Ryan kartch had it. Welcome to the Big twelve,

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big ten. Um. God,
I'm looking for the dollar amount. It's

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some I can again, it's always
a ridiculous amount. But you know,

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like I said, they don't have
enough nice things. So we're going to

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do that. Our friend Mark Harland. Yeah, So the Utah Athletic director

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was named the Athletic Director of the
Year last year, has gotten his contract

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extended at Utah through twenty twenty eight. Good guy, good good administrator he

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is, and you know what,
and just a fun guy too. He

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takes he takes a joke, and
he gives a joke. So he's he's

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he's a lot of fun. We
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Uh, when he was down here
for basketball this year, he came on

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the show and he just always a
lot of fun. I ran into him

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at the PAC twelve tournament gave him, gave a bunch of grief about how

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low the youths were seated in the
tournament and having to play on Wednesday,

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and we had fun with that.
But Marks everything. Yeah, Mark,

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Mark's a great guy. And you
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brainness too, you know what's going
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when you're talking about they they're all
talking about Colorado going to the Big twelve.

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Well, I'd rather take Utah twelve. Things consider, woun't you?

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Yeah? I think it's considered.
Yeah, So anyways, so interesting.

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But Mark Harland has signed a contract
that would keep him at you take through

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June thirtieth of twenty twenty eight.
Um, the view of a volleyball schedule

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is out and they've got a tough
schedule. They're doing some things like apparently

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like Tommy Lloyd is in basketball,
Rita Stubbs replacing the longtime coach Dave Rubio.

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They've got they're gonna have it looks
like they're gonna have at least nine

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teams on their schedule, including the
PAC twelve teams, and nine teams on

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their on their schedule that we're in
the NCAA Tournament. Three of those are

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non conference teams, UM Wisconsin which
was in the lead, eight Iowa State

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in Miami, which both UH were
seated. UH. They were seated a

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third and seventh last year or so. Some good, some good volleyball coming

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in. It's gonna be a tough
schedule for UH. For Rita Stubbs in

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her first year as the head volleyball
coach at Arizona UM. All right,

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Steve a thousand days, a thousand
days since what not? Not one thousand,

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ten thousand days, ten thousand something
related to the NFL, ten thousand

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days related to the Dallas Cowboys Super
Bowl yep, ten thousand days six nineteen

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eighty six, ten thousand days.
That's a lot of day. You could

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go, h nine thousand and seven
hundred. Stop. I know where you're

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going to stop. Well, that's
my point. You get a perspective,

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win a national title ninety seven.
Oh, it's just like yesterday. Shut

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up. Stop. And then two
thousand and one, the last time they

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played Final four, Blue, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry I t eat that

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up for you. I'm really sorry
I eat that up for you. Didn't

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even come to my brain and teed
it up, and they're not gonna get

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there anytime soon. We're not gonna
go home to New Mexico with my boys.

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I tell him, God, you
guys are delusional, delusional. They

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hate me all right. Arizona Baseball
picked up a left handed pitcher out of

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the Portal kid out of Pepperdine had
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last season of Pepperdine's will be a
one year player because he's had four years

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at Pepperdine. So they'll be joining
the staff. Look, guys, see

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opportunity at Arizona, right They need
pitching, sure, apparently, I think

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this is according to Michael lev this
is the second pitcher that the Wildcats have

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picked up. So but you know, pitching help, pitching help. On

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the way um getting back to the
US Open. Ricky Fowler, who was

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plus five thousand to win the US
Open heading into the tournament, is now

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down to plus six hundred after shooting
the lowest round in US Open history.

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I'm probably thinking that's not a good
beat. No, I'm probably pig.

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I mean, you gotta thinks he's
he's gonna go back to you. I

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mean, I don't see him winning
it, but he's certainly put his name

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in the bogs, all right.
And then today by coming back and beating

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UHU the Oakland A's and in Oakland, the Tampa Bay Rays are the first

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team to fifty wins this year.
That's a a big number. They're really

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good and it matters in October.
It does matter in October, but they

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are really good. Right now,
did you see I saw at your posted

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something uh Arizona's odds to win the
Pac twelve in for both football, yes,

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plus fifteen hundred seventy five to one. Wore what what tourter? They

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fall in the old twelve, the
one of the favorite twill. I bet

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they're like eight ninth. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, no, well you

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know again, until you do something
right, they're gonna say you can't right.

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I mean that, that's it's it's
really uh not not shocking to me.

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Um, not shocking at all.
But well let's say, let me

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let's look at some conference winners.
Um, uh USC obviously the favorite,

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but with Oregon right behind them,
but they've got Stanford last, Colorado second

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to last, ASC, third to
the last in Arizona. I'll accept that

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that Arizona is ahead of just a
seu Colorado and Stanford, but I still

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think they're gonna be better than cal
who knows about Washington State? Um,

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you know, and then if then, if you're a head, if you

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got up ahead of those two guys
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and you should be in line for
a bulking I'm not gonna put any

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money on Arizona winning the conference.
No, so what's the over under?

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I'm gonna take the unders. Let's
see. Let's see where they're at now.

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Arizona is currently at five. Yeah, I would take it over.

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That's a better. They gave you
money last year. Yeah, he gave

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you money least I got it at
five. Oh, you did get it.

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I think it's good. I did
get it. That's the safer.

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But I took you over even the
Kissing Diner and win three. Hey she

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was also at five. Yeah,
I don't know. If that don't five.

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Colorado is at three and a half. I'm going under. I'm gonna

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put that matches, but you don't
ten bucks on the under just to say

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I had it. I don't know, and they might pull they might pull

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some stuff off. Yep, ye, all right, Um, let's see

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what else did I have? Okay, big game Boomers come out with a

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couple of couple of rankings the last
few days. One was a couple of

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days ago he ranked the quarterback coaches
the top fifty quarterback coaches. Ye had

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Jimmy Doherty as only Jimmy Dorty and
at twenty five, which I thought was

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pretty good. You know that you
recognize that's interesting because who's the quarterback coach?

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Is he is quarterback? No?
I know, I know, I

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know, But how much is just
jedding putting in that nest because of offensive

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coordinators? Well I think I said, Wow, I mean Jimmy Jed's the

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offensive coordinator, but Jimmy Dorty is
the quarterback. You know, he's teaching

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these guys how to be a good
quarterback. Anyways, and then today came

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out with the top fifty wide receiver
coaches in college football. Kevin Cummings,

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Arizona coach is seven. Wow,
he's only got the only coaches ahead of

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him Oha State, Washington, Tennessee, Oklahoma, TCU, and USC.

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Now that probably says as much about
the players that he's got as as the

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coaching, right, But yeah,
Jimmy Kevin Cummings on up as up at

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number seven among the top top receiver
coaches in college football. And it's pretty

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good. Look, here's the thing
about that. But all that, Steven,

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you know, it doesn't make there's
none, It doesn't make a difference

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whatever. What does make a difference
about, though, is that this stuff

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is out there and Arizona is getting
visibility. You know, the program that

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really hasn't done anything in what however, any year, whenever, whenever rich

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Rod left. Yeah, yeah,
so years, it's been a while.

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Yeah, So there's no question.
I mean, if there's a thing that

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that Jed has done, he's gotten
more visibility, he's gotten more excitement going

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on. And I think people at
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to and honestly or otherwise say that
he's stepped it up. And he's kind

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of demanding in terms of getting what
he wants right. He's already raised a

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ton of money to make it a
better facility, and he's he wants to

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improve everything right. And you know
what, and if you're seeing you're if

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you're seen as a guy who does
the work and it's just not talking smack

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all the time. I want this
I want that, I want this,

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I want that. But not doing
the work, then then that doesn't work.

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Yeah, anybody doing that. Yeah, but if you're seeing a guy

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that's putting in the work, agree
and and and really dug in, you're

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okay with that. Right If you're
all in everything, every way, right

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effort, talking, doing, blah
blah blah, more power to you.

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I mean, you see Jed at
other teams events. You know, he

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made his whole football team go to
a tennis match the other day. Remember

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my kids hate when I say the
other day because this was months ago.

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But yeah, exactly. But he, you know, doing stuff like that

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where he's having his guys support everything
else, just trying to bring a whole

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atmosphere, so just not football,
the whole program. That's you know,

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it's easier for you to go along
with him on stuff like that, no

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question. If he's bought in,
everybody else will follow. Yeah. All

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right, that's all we got for
the breaking news. Um, we've got

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a guest coming up. We've got
Wendell Neil, who opened or hope He's

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You equipment operations guy. I guess
former you the equipment operations guy. How's

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that sound? Windell? Well,
you know, fortunately I'm still on the

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payroll. I'm on vacation before I
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retirement. So right now I'm just
enjoying some downtown All sounds good. So,

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uh, you know we were talking
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were talent on our listeners that you
were coming on, you know for the

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job that you do, that you've
had for you know, all this time

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at Arizona. You got to see
a lot of things that we don't get

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to see and we don't know about. You know, with the you see

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the players in a way that not
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you know, you have you have
stories. But what you know, what

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are the kinds of things that stick
out to you about the job that you've

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had, you know, in the
equipment room at Arizona all this time.

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What are the things that are sort
of highlights for you? Well, you

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know, obviously just working at a
great program like Arizona. You know,

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it was really you know, even
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which is, you know, also
a great program. Uh, I

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just my ten years at Arizona.
I just always I mean at Washington State,

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I always just looked at the Arizona
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to be true, you know.
I remember going to the basketball games it

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was too and having looting those giants
come in and I'd be like, boy,

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sure would be nice to be at
a place like that where they just

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win all the time. So I
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out, you know here the Arizona's
being an Arizona basketball fans not what it's

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all cracked up to be. You
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And you know that's what I have
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is we just have a lot of
expectations here and as opposed to the three

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other universities I worked at before I
got here. But that's what sticks out.

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It's just, you know, sometimes
you know, you're right, I'm

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behind the scenes. I'm right there
in the locker room. I'm with the

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guys, I'm with the coaches,
with some of the head coaches. I

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was in every single staff meeting,
so you know, you're about as in

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the middle of it as there is. And then I listened to shows like

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Yourself show you guys do. I
listened to it when when I could leave

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work early enough. But uh,
you know it's I think sometimes just the

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expectations didn't match what we had in
the locker room or what was going on.

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That's that's very good insight. What
brought you here, Wendell? You

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were at Sam Houston State right before
and then yeah, what what was the

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appeal? And and I guess did
you come for live and good? Was

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livinghood good at the time? Well, so, uh, you know,

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I was very fortunate. You know, I was twenty two years old when

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I got my first full time head
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the great Wildcat fans that are listening, everybody knows here in Arizona knows the

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name said Dempsey. Yeah, so
said to the one that actually was the

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ad that hired me at University of
Houston, my alma mater, right after

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I was a student. And uh, but then you know, Uh,

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as time went on, I went
in business with my wife's brother, which

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we won't go into. But so
I was out of it for a year

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or two. But yeah, I
went to sam Houston State. And while

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I was at sam Houston State,
I got a phone call from a guy

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named Jim Ivan Goood and uh said
Dempsey had recommended him to me. So

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that's really how I ended up at
Washington State. Uh, Doctor Dempsey and

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another guy recommended me to Jim Ivan
Goood. They were he brought me up

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for an interview and I was there
for ten years with Jim, and then

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when Jim came here, we stayed
in touch and there was an opportunity here

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and fortunately enough I was able to
become a Wildcat back at ninety eight.

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I bet you you have a ton
of del Conte story for me up at

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Washington State, and you I don't
even I don't even recall that name del

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Conte guy. That's okay, So
we joked because Josh Passenger tells us a

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story that you know he came.
He came to Arizona for the nineteen ninety

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seven season. He won the national
championship in his first year. I think

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you came here your first season,
and your first year in Arizona was ninety

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eight according to the bio on on
that right, So your first season in

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football, they go twelve and one. Were you thinking this is going to

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be easier? No, no,
what Josh says, Oh god, this

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is going to be easy after the
first one? Yeah, So what did

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you think after twelve and one?
Football scene? Like, Okay, I

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am in the right place, well
talking about stories. Uh, you know,

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I thought I was pretty special,
is what I really thought. Because

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my last year at Washington State,
we went we played in the Rose Bowl

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against Michigan. We were packed ten
champions, and uh so then mister Lyvelan

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Good hired me and I came here. We went twelve and one, and

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if you know, all the Wildcat
fans remember we really should have gone to

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the Rose Bowl that year, you
know. And and you know what,

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I was fortunate enough to get to
know Dan Patrick and back then he was

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still an anchor on Sports Center,
and I don't know if you guys were

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called, But he would finish every
show with did you know? Yeah?

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Right, And so he really became
big buddies with Ryan Leaf at one of

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these award shows or whatever, and
so we got to talking a lot and

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he called me and he said,
Windell, if you guys end up going

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to the Rose Bowl, I'm going
to finish the sports center. Did you

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know? And that I was the
equipment manager at Washington State who hadn't been

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to the Rose Bowl in sixty seven
years. And he goes to Arizona and

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they'd never been to Rose Bowl and
he's the equipment manager for them. Man,

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he jeamsed it. He didn't blame
Dan Patrick for all that. Well,

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now I have somebody to blame,
okay, because I didn't until now.

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And I still hate the fact that
Arizona didn't go to that Rose Bowl.

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So you know, are there what
about certain guys that that you know,

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you dealt with? It came through
either funny guys, fun guys.

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I was telling Steve, you know
who had the biggest head in among Arizona

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football players during the time that you
were doing stuff? I mean stuff like

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that. I mean, who were
some of those guys that are highlights to

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your guys that you remember the most. Well, I got to make sure

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I'm careful here because of these uh
personal law you know, the laws about

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you can't be telling. One of
the things I went through. You can't

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share with people their shoes size.
And you know it's ridiculous. But uh

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but some galas that said, you
know, the question I get more than

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anything. So I went over to
baseball five years ago, right, and

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I would say the eight out of
the ten questions was they all want to

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know about Gronkowski. So you got
to play your work with Gronk, you

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know, And how was he?
And you know, Gronk wasn't real needy.

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You know, he never asked for
a whole lot. He didn't what

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we call come to the window,
which means when someone comes to the window,

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they need something. So he never
really came up mashed for anything.

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And uh and you know he's really
a smart kid. And they would saying,

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well, was he crazy? I
said, you know, he just

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acted like a twelve girl. That's
that's really the best way to describing you

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know. Uh, he's just silly
all the time. And uh, a

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lot of you know, fun to
be around, but you know, they

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were just thinking that he was probably
a handful and he really wasn't. He

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was really a pleasant, funny guy. But Gronk is one that will always

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stand out, you know. But
there's just you got lifelong friends, you

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know, uh that I can't believe
it, you know, as I was

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getting some a lot of calls and
texts recently when when I made a public

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that I was retired, and man, some of these dudes are like forty

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eight years old, you know.
Now a lot of those are from the

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Washington State days. But you know, it just tells me that I'm getting

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old. I guess that's why you're
retiring. What are you gonna miss the

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boss? Uh? You know,
it's probably gonna be And I know it's

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it's like the cliche, but it's
that locker room. You know, the

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camaraderie, and it's the people.
I won't miss the long days and you

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know, days and days and days
before you get a day off, and

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you know a lot of people say, well. I actually had one of

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the parents of the baseball players text
me and just said, hey, thanks

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for taking care of my son.
And he goes, let those people know,

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I want your job and people had
no idea. Like just recently,

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on that last home series against USC
one day, I worked nineteen and a

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half hours and that that included sleeping
in one of the recliners in the clubhouse.

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So I had to, you know, because I had a quick turnaround.

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So when people find out how many
hours it takes to do the job

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correctly and write, you know,
it's just that's why the family thing really

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came up. You know. It
was almost like these drug or addiction interventions.

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You know, it's like it's time
to start making some family events that

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you know it's it's time. But
it's funny with I'm sure that given the

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choice, uh, you do it
all over again. Oh, no doubt,

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no doubt. Listen, the memories
are wonderful. Uh. You know,

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I've had quite a few people say, man, you should write a

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book and tell all the stories you
know, And the problem is you you

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know, uh, you don't want
to, but you too, you gotta

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you can't name names, you know, because you don't want to do that.

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But no, I would do it
all over again, no doubt,

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even though I missed like thirty nine
thanksgivings in a row. And uh,

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when I say missed Saintsgiving. I
never passed up the mill, you know,

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but you know, just time with
family. You know, you'd be

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like you worked on Thanksgiving, you
came and you ate and you know,

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went back to worker and you know, but I do it all over again,

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spending Christmas and hotels, you know, at a bowl game, you

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know, and you know, all
three of my grown kids now you know,

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they wouldn't change it. They thought
it was the greatest life of all

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time. Did you so over time? Did you pretty much or at least

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an arizone? Did you pretty much
do all the sports? I mean,

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did you do football? Did you
do basketball? Y'aficer? Did baseball?

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Do you do a all? Or
no? We're always assigned to a sport.

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No, not really. Uh.
You know, of course with I

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worked, I was fortunate enough to
work for mister mister Livagood, uh most

407
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of the time at WSU until he
left. And then when I first got

408
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here, and you know, I
can remember within the first month of being

409
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:30.519
at Washington State, UH WSU baseball
play hosted CAW on ESPN and the game

410
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.839
started like ten in the morning.
O John Ohlrud was on that team and

411
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.440
Bobo Braden was a coach. Well, Bobo goes, hey, how are

412
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we going to get our uniforms?
We're gonna get here really early in the

413
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morning. While I was getting there
at five in the morning anyway, just

414
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trying to figure things out. And
uh, I remember mister Livagood had me

415
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.119
come to his office and and I
thought, oh my gosh, what did

416
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.680
I do? And he goes,
listen, I didn't hire you to do

417
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.880
all the work. I hired you
to make sure all the work got done.

418
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You have assistance, you have a
lot of student help. Your job

419
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:14.240
is to make sure it all gets
done. So all those years at Wazoo

420
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and here, with the exception for
the last few years over at baseball,

421
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.880
I was giving up a lot of
the other what they called associated ad responsibilities.

422
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:29.200
But I just I did work day
to day baseball for five years,

423
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and I worked day to day football
for twenty years. But I had a

424
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lot of help over at football,
and I just oversaw. I had like

425
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:44.400
seven assistants that you know, like
you know, people that worked the other

426
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sports, and they did all that
day to day and they just reported to

427
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me. So my job was just
to support them, you know, encourage

428
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.319
them, give them the resources and
tools to be the best equipment man and

429
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.319
they could be. So that was
that role. And then I did do

430
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.920
a lot of day to day stuff
with football and baseball. Did you or

431
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:12.119
can you say any any kind of
cute stories about missing equipment or bad cleads

432
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.319
during the game, or you know, maybe I'm missing a helmet. I'll

433
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.400
give you one. Just un busketaball
two thousand and one I think it was.

434
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.559
There was one one of the best
teams in the country or two thousand

435
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.400
with Jason Gardner. They were in
La. They he forgot his jersey and

436
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.440
then they had to go back and
try to ship one in from from U

437
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.240
A in a day. It was
just kind of cre chaotic. Anything like

438
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.119
that happened that you can kind of
say with equipment or or stuff. Stuff

439
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.759
that happened. Here's a good one. Here's a good one. And this

440
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.920
is an Arizona story. But now
I was at Washington State. So we

441
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.720
played Arizona up in Pullman and my
one of my managers said, hey,

442
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.039
this jersey was in with all the
towels and lo and behold it was Chris

443
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:05.599
mills Erse and uh, you know, so immediately I started making phone calls

444
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.400
I was good friends with George Berger, who I actually replaced here, and

445
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.599
I was like, how do I
get hold of you know, where they

446
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.640
staying at blah blah blah, and
I don't remember how I finally found out

447
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.400
where they were staying. So I
found out the hotel. I called that

448
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.400
hotel and they said, sorry,
but the everybody's at dinner. There's uh,

449
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.119
you know, you know, the
only person taking a call as a

450
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:36.960
head coach. And so I called
and Loot Olson answers the phone and I

451
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.880
was I was like, uh,
oh, coach, Uh, this is

452
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.599
one goal at Washington State. He
goes, let me guess you got a

453
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.759
jersey with Mills on the back of
it. And I said, no,

454
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.640
wonder you guys beat this all the
time. You can read my and he

455
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519
goes, no, I heard about
it, and so I told him I'd

456
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.960
already cleaned it, and I asked
him where. I'm just trying to find

457
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.480
out where to send it to.
And we had a courier send it to

458
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.039
their hotel so he could wear it
at the next game against the Huskies.

459
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:15.000
And you know, lud Olson sent
me the nicest card, thanking me.

460
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.639
I got a Christmas card from there, on. And then when he introduced

461
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.800
me to his first team, I
mean my first year here to their team,

462
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:29.440
he told me he told the team
that story about me making sure we

463
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.159
had our our jersey for the next
game, he says, so he was

464
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.480
destined to be our equipment guy one
day. So how in the world did

465
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.760
that jersey getting to your area?
Well, they left, so the managers

466
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.239
went in to pick up all the
towels that the team uses the shower after

467
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:51.199
the game, and evidently Chris Mills
through the jersey in the stack of towel.

468
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.039
And so luckily that manager was,
you know, nice enough to return

469
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.280
it. A lot I've listened in
my forty plus years, I know a

470
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.880
few of people that would have just
kept that and just said, hey,

471
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:10.559
it's missing, especially the All American
great player he was. I've had other

472
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:16.760
I've had other teams come to play
us or something and Naper got something.

473
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.360
You have to lend them stuff.
And I always sort of kept it quiet

474
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.639
because I didn't want the coaches to
think I was given ammunition to the to

475
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.880
the opponents. So so when do
we talk about the PAC twelve PAC ten

476
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.719
back in the day. Now they
might move who knows what's going to happen.

477
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.639
Are you one of those guys that
kind of want them to stay because

478
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.599
you've been in this league forever and
maybe have some sentimental value to it.

479
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.800
Yeah. You know, listen,
when I was a student manager at University

480
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:51.679
of Houston and we came out when
I was at Houston and played us LA

481
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.000
so long ago USA LA was still
playing at the coliseum, and I just

482
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.320
always thought to Pac ten and act
that was about the time it went from

483
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:06.960
Pack eight to Pac ten because that
was like seventy seven or seventy eight when

484
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.320
I started as a student. But
yeah, I've always had just I just

485
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:19.519
think this is the premier, you
know conference, and you always thought the

486
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.320
Rose Bowl was the greatest, saying
that will probably be the highlight of my

487
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:28.880
career being able to be in a
Rose Bowl, and so you know,

488
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.480
it's there's a big part of me, you know, that wants it to

489
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.840
stay strong and vibrant. But I
love this since I love you, of

490
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.760
a I will be a Wildcat forever. Even though I graduated from University of

491
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:46.239
Houston and have worked at other schools. I mean, I've spent almost half

492
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:55.360
my life theater, and I want
I want the Wildcats to be financially able

493
00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.320
to still compete at a national level, and that may mean I have to

494
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.719
go to another conference. Now,
obviously I'm the laundry guy, so I'm

495
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.000
the last guy to know what's gonna
happen. Well, but uh, we

496
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.320
have a vote. Yesterday we talked
about the UH people voting for another another

497
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.840
stasion Rose Bowl or Final Four?
Which one are you going to vote for?

498
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:23.000
Okay, what should you rather set? Uh? Golly, that's a

499
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:29.360
hard one. Uh, because I've
been to a Rose Bowl uh, and

500
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:34.639
it's it's the most surreal thing I've
ever been a part of, just because

501
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.719
I was, you know, such
a Rose Bowl fanatic. You know,

502
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.599
that was the game everybody watched.
And I remember telling my wife, I

503
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.840
said, you know, y'all can
go ahead and bury me. Now I've

504
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.159
been to the Penn you know,
and I would love for Wildcat fans because

505
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.840
let me just say this, I
love our fans. I love this place.

506
00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.559
I love Tucson. Uh. I
feel like they deserved that experience.

507
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:06.400
Uh. Plus we've been to final
fours, you know. Not long after

508
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.159
I got here, I was able
to go uh to the Final four in

509
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:15.320
Minneapolis, and UH see us get
cheated out of that game. But I'm

510
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.199
not gonna. I don't think they
can get I don't think they can get

511
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.599
the laundry. Gay for saying a
comment about but I don't know who knows

512
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:30.079
they find everybody anymore? Go ahead, go ahead. Well I'm with I'm

513
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.159
with you, Wendell. I'm with
you. A rose ball is it's not

514
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:36.639
it's no question. We gotta we
gotta get one, Wendell. I'm running

515
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.320
out of time. So and now
now I blame Dan Patrick for Farzana not

516
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.960
getting not getting that one back in
the day. So yeah, and what's

517
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.000
that about that? It's funny.
I don't think we've talked ever since that

518
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.639
phone call. Yeah, he knows
better. Well, you should be mad

519
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.400
at him, for sure. I
know I am. Now he's one of

520
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.800
my favorite guys. I love listening
to that guy. Well, he's really

521
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.320
good. Yeah, we appreciate all
this time, Wendell. Thanks, enjoy

522
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.239
the retirement. Don't be a stranger. I'd love to see you. She'll

523
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.320
see you around McHale or wherever.
And now you have plenty of time to

524
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:08.360
listen to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now you don't have to

525
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.400
get off work to listen to us. Just listen to us every day,

526
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.719
no doubt. Hey, guys,
thank you so much for the opportunity,

527
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:20.719
and we appreciate what you guys do. And because this place is special on

528
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.039
you guys do a great job.
Thanks so much fun. We do appreciate

529
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.960
it. Y'all. Have a great
night, you do. What are the

530
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.400
good guys? You know, I'll
tell you what a good boy if you

531
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.719
could sit down around. I know
Fundel's a beer drinker. If he is

532
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.280
sitting sitting around with a couple of
beers. And here's some racer. I

533
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.800
love the Chris Mills story. That's
a that's a great one. All right,

534
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.679
let's go and take our break.
We went long, so we'll be

535
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.119
right back. We'll have a few
minutes. We'll take some calls. Five

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two zero, one, seventy four, forty. We'll be right back.

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turning the microphone. No am,
you got about nine minutes and if you

593
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want to call, please do.
Maybe you guys have a story for us

594
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.679
that you haven's kind of done,
kind of cute involving the Arizona player getting

595
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.079
some equipment or something like that.
Like it's funny because I you know,

596
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.320
your shoe story, right, because
right, I couldn't go into all of

597
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.559
that, but like how often these
guys took took their shoes or whatever.

598
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:15.480
My son got Channing Fries shoes at
their last at his senior day. Um,

599
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you know, and just you know, Channing was, you know,

600
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coming off after the celebration and my
son was standing there because they would always

601
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go over there to get you know, headbands and wristban he's got He's got

602
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Channing fried shoes which were bigger than
he was and they're still sitting up in

603
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.760
his in his old bedroom now right. He's one of the good guests too.

604
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:36.400
Stuff like that. Headbands and wristbands
were gross. You could wring them

605
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.320
out, You literally could ring them
out. They would. He would always

606
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.760
get uh, they would always try
to get uh uh Seleem Stardomyer's headband because

607
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.559
he wore different. He wore win
every game, and they'd always get that.

608
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:49.320
He'd come in hand him, don't
hand it to me, you know,

609
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:53.559
just keep it. Put some gloves. Holy cow, gross stuff stuff,

610
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.320
but yeah, you know stuff.
It would be tough for him to

611
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.440
write a book unless he got the
permission of the guys. Yeah, wow,

612
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:06.199
anyone what happened in the locker room
stays in the locker room. He

613
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.199
would he would have there's a lot
of guys out with him and Steve Condon

614
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:15.320
from back into Condo man, my
favorite from with Condo and I don't even

615
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.400
know why this happened, but we
were at we were at Washington State,

616
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:25.840
and um, I think something happened
that Elliott and Kurt and uh Anthony Cook

617
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.840
weren't on the team bus going to
want going to practice. They were going

618
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.719
to It was, you know,
the day between games, and it was

619
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.280
like they weren't in trouble or anything. I think that they were. I

620
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:44.119
think they were doing some school stuff
and interesting and they and Condo reaches out

621
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.639
to me ask me before if you
know, because you know, I had

622
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.400
a rental car, could I give
him a ride to the arena? And

623
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.119
I did, and so current now
Cook and Elliot are sitting in the back

624
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:57.280
seat of the car and as I'm
driving, Steve Condon, who's the trainer,

625
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:01.559
he's having to tape their ankles before
on the on the ride over,

626
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:05.719
so Steve is he's leaning, you
know, he's in the front seat,

627
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.639
leaning over the backs. He taping
their ankles, and all of a sudden

628
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.360
he started to get woozy. He
thought he was gonna yak because he was

629
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:14.239
getting gar sick, you know,
from having to do all this stuff.

630
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.360
And he taped their ankles. Everything
was okay. No, they weren't in

631
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.719
trouble. I believe I believe they
had like they had to take a test

632
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.239
or something like that, or there
was a class that they had to do

633
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.760
some school work with and and condor
couldn't think of another way to get a

634
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.440
ride to the arena, and I
had to. I had to give him

635
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.000
a ride to the arena. Um
I was going to their practice anyway.

636
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.840
They used to allow us to do
that. Yeah, I remember those stuff

637
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.000
a long time ago. Yeah,
but you know, the guys would have

638
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:42.400
a lot of great stories. Is
Justin Kakowski? Oh yeah, yeah,

639
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.880
yeah, did loot and he did
Sean Miller Son there, yeah, yeah,

640
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.119
but again and those are the guys. And I know, you know

641
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.000
they always get at thank that,
you know, the end of the season

642
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:58.360
and stuff like that. But you
talk about guys that I shouldn't say guys

643
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:06.960
people who make you know, Emily
at you know who does who has women's

644
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.199
basketball? Uh? You know Brian
Brigger, who does you know men's basketball?

645
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.400
Now? You know he's talking about
how people don't realize how many hours

646
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:19.519
they were Brian Brigger after after a
men's basketball, every men's basketball game home

647
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.960
or away, he posts a picture
of when he gets the uniforms washed,

648
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.360
so like us, and you see
that he posts something at three o'clock in

649
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.159
the morning. So they get back
from wherever they've chartered to, they land.

650
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:32.840
He gets it. They all get
to go home. He goes to

651
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.239
the equipment room and he washes the
uniforms. That gets to you got to

652
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.480
sit there to wait for the washer
and dryer to be done. Totally get

653
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.920
it. Totally get it enough to
make myself, you and me sounding like

654
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.559
this. But we go to the
games. Where you go to the games,

655
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.360
you're you're different than me. You
go to games, you're working during

656
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.440
the games, but you can go
home and have a margarite or do whatever.

657
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.360
It's like us. And you were
here at a time or two where

658
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.320
the game, the work starts after
the game of the game, and you're

659
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.199
there, everyone's having a celebration Toddy
or whatever dinner, and you're trying to

660
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.280
think of what's a good lead?
Yeah, what's a good lead? Steve?

661
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.519
I tell you in the in the
end, That's where one of the

662
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.639
big reasons that I got out was
that my friends who I love doing football

663
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.679
games with and stuff like that,
my friends they were going off and going

664
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.800
to the going to bars or whatever
after the games are over, and I

665
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.880
was working and then I'd meet them
and they're like they're leaving and when I'm

666
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.559
getting there, you know, and
I got sick of that. I hated

667
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:31.159
that. Sure, sure I wanted
to be a fan, right, that

668
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.840
makes sense, trying to make sense, but as you can tell, you're

669
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.119
a fan, and I'm not exactly
yeah, but but grateful for the team's

670
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.880
I've come. And you know what, again, I've said a million times,

671
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:44.679
I am so happy I did what
I did. Yeah, you know,

672
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.159
yeah, Well to this, to
the thing that Window talks about,

673
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.559
u A, I've been doing it
for a long time. I have never

674
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.760
once. I don't think cover the
losing team here are you a football?

675
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.719
Didtomy didn't have a lose team,
right, because I mean cover Rom the

676
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.280
first year? Uh? And then
I went to Looton he never had a

677
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.320
losing team. And then Sean's team, uh didn't And I didn't really cover

678
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.239
it as much. But there was
never you know, when you go you

679
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.000
know, and you know this outside
of death, Outside of death, there's

680
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.519
no miserable place to be that I'm
losing the locker room. Yeah no,

681
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:22.719
and I was in some bad ones. I was in that eighty eight locker

682
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:30.400
room. She rose Mont, Rosemont. Yeah, after I was in the

683
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.800
eighty nine locker room and you you
seen that Sean Elliott hugging his mom outside

684
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.039
the locker room. I was in
that locker room. Uh you know,

685
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.440
uh man, you know that's a
that's a tough place to be, especially

686
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.000
when you're looking to get quotes and
they're looking at you. Why are you

687
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.119
asking me the stupid questions? Yeah, I remember, I remember, h

688
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.039
Yeah. I think it was Chuck
Cecil throwing a chair. Um uh,

689
00:49:53.039 --> 00:50:00.800
his his buddy h Gary Constant and
missed a field goal seven and that would

690
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.719
have beaten Washington. The game was
a tie, but they led us into

691
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.000
the they led us into the locker
room, and everybody made a bee line

692
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.000
for Gary Coston because Chuck Cecil was
pissed and you threw it at us,

693
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.239
at us, and he fling he
flung a chair across the locker room.

694
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.360
You know, I don't remember what
he said, but I just remember there

695
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.599
were a lot of expletives about kind
of you know, leave the guy alone

696
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.719
kind of thing. Yeah, but
you know, we were we were doing

697
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.039
our job, but he was you
know, that was his that was his

698
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.800
teammate, and he didn't want to
see that happen. So you know you

699
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.559
saw those things. Yeah, so
no I it uh yeah, I mean

700
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.039
you get and that's what I love
about, you know, even what I

701
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:42.920
do now, you know, whether
I'm working at the back twelf tournament or

702
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.559
a regional or doing stats at Arizona, getting down there in the guts of

703
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.079
the place, you know, and
seeing the stuff that that that happens.

704
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.519
And yeah, we don't get to
do that very much anymore because it's kind

705
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.239
of things and you know, yeah, but you know, but even sitting

706
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:00.320
in a in a you know,
a post game press conference, right,

707
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.079
you hear everything. Sure, only
some of that gets out, sure,

708
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.519
right, but you hear all.
You know, you hear all of it.

709
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.000
It's a little more sanitary now than
it used to be. You know,

710
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.039
you don't you don't go into the
locker room. You don't get to

711
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.480
go into the locker room and see
that, you know, whether it's the

712
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.639
tears or the celebration or whatever.
But that was a that was a good

713
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.119
part of it. That was a
really good part of it. Sometimes it

714
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.679
was hard, but you know,
you really and that's where you got a

715
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.079
sense of who these guys kind of
sure, sure, the one time that

716
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.960
it was nothing like that was you
remember when they lost a book Noll.

717
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.079
Yeah, you you went in the
locker room. That's when the locker room

718
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.480
was still open. At the end
of the games. You knew that that

719
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.079
season was over. Yeah, they
had, they had they wanted no part

720
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.599
of the n I it lost the
first round. Let's skip the hell on

721
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.639
a dodge and call it a day. Remember that it looked like that on

722
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:52.159
the court. No, No,
exactly. That just kind of verified the

723
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.199
whole situation. So it absolutely looked
like that on the court. That game.

724
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.480
That's a game that that's a game
that where you say, you know

725
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.440
what, these guys you don't want
to be They did that to be there.

726
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.559
There were a million places they would
have rather been that day, and

727
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.480
that was not that. That was
not one of them. But no,

728
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.840
I you know, and again,
the jobs that we've had, those are

729
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:14.800
the things that we get to see
that they're average fan doesn't get to see.

730
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:21.360
And I'd be grateful for doing that
for she's forty years, asked Wendell

731
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.679
Um, he wouldn't all these things
that he misses, missed the Thanksgivings and

732
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:30.159
Christmass. He would do it all
those knock. Yeah, he's not giving

733
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.440
them back. And I still remember
I was covering the sun Bowl there the

734
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.880
eighty five sun bowlt Arizona went.
They sent me as a third rider and

735
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:39.960
I had to go get my credential
from Jack McGruder. And this this game

736
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:45.199
was like the day before Christmas or
right after Christmas. It was right before

737
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.119
Christmas, and I think it was
on Christmas even fact, and I want

738
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.000
and I knocked on Jack mcgruder's door
and he's got his family there, and

739
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.960
they put up Christmas lights in the
hotel and I thought, you know,

740
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.480
they spent their Christmas there. Yeah, it's what I want to call him

741
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.199
about this real quick because we gotta
go Final four two thousand and one,

742
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.880
I think it was or ninety seven. Other Indian in Indianapolis, just ninety

743
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.639
seven. Uh, it was Easter
Eastern Day, Sunday, good Monday.

744
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.280
It was. You were there the
only place open after writing Hooters, So

745
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:16.559
we have got Easter Sunday at Hooters. You should have seen the creepy Easter

746
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.280
bunny we saw that year. They
had an Eastern, then an Eastern and

747
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.039
Easter Brunch in our hotel and that
Easter Bunny was the creepiest Easter bunny I've

748
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.800
ever seen. All Right, they
Wendell Neil, thank you very much.

749
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:30.920
Good luck on your on your retirement. Brian Jefferies, thank you as well.

750
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:31.920
We'll see you guys tomorrow