WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:19.039 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. I guess you would consider this to be 3 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:24.440 breaking news, certainly not surprising news, but Rob Dillingham has entered the NBA 4 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:30.960 draft and it's one of those entries that is not a He's not leaving any 5 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.960 opportunity open to return, which is understandable. Rob Dillingham is a guy that 6 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:40.200 will probably be a I don't know, certainly a lottery pick, maybe a 7 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:44.320 top ten pick. Heck, maybe a top five. The mock draft that 8 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:50.119 has pulled up here is has him going at let's see here number nine, 9 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:56.200 with Reed Shepherd at number five, and yeah, in the I mean this 10 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.200 draft, I mean, I I believe those who cover the NBA when they 11 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.280 say that it's like super weak, but I mean Dalton connect. I feel 12 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.319 like it's believed to be some really high end prospect, but maybe it's more 13 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.480 so about just like, you know, he's the best of this bunch, 14 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:14.000 but probably wouldn't be a top lottery pick or something if it was another draft. 15 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.079 Shannon Terren Shannon number six, which just kind of surprises me. It's 16 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.959 just rare. You see a fifth year guy end up being a top ten 17 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.680 pick. But maybe it's just because they realize how uh, you know, 18 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.120 how weak the draft is. But yeah, Rob Dillingham off to the NBA, 19 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.560 and I imagine you'll see I mean, the thought of those guys returning 20 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:40.280 to Kentucky, I mean just seems unusual. But I guess this is probably 21 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.439 going to be the move. Like, for example, Aaron Bradshaw did not 22 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.879 enter the draft and he's in the portal. Maybe he follows Cali Perry. 23 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:52.599 I don't know, but I guess I'm just trying to think of a scenario 24 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.560 where these guys would wait to see who the coach is hired, and then 25 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.280 you know, move on and try to leave after that. But the portal 26 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:01.200 closes at some point, doesn't it. Do you know what day that is? 27 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.400 John, I don't know, off the top, but we talked about 28 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.920 it. Obviously, I think it's May first, off the top. Okay, 29 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.960 that gives him more time than I anticipated, because I believe it opened. 30 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:15.240 So I remember reading something that said it closes forty five days after it 31 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.000 opens at the end of the regular season, which that was a few weeks 32 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.680 ago. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. All right, 33 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:23.319 welcome into hour number two. Here is Coffee and Company, and we are 34 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:29.520 fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety The Big News Today, John Caliperry, 35 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:32.759 about an hour before the show started, did let everybody know he's leaving. 36 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:39.240 Posted about a four minute video on his Twitter account that confirms that he's 37 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.439 leaving, but he did not confirm where he's going. But he did essentially 38 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.759 say goodbye, and it was a classy video. I mean it was he 39 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:53.039 I think seemed genuine, which he also looked sad just from the visual component, 40 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.439 And I'm sure he is sad, but I don't know if he's sad 41 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:00.680 because he realizes he just like walked away from a job that will that is 42 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:05.560 the best job he could possibly have, or if it's because, like you 43 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:10.000 know, he's just sad that it's over. Only he could answer that, 44 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.479 and I don't think we'd ever get a direct answer. But yeah, he 45 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.840 let everybody know that he's done. It's time for a new voice, I 46 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:22.680 think is what he said. But we think it's time for us to step 47 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:30.919 away and step away completely from the program. The last few weeks, we've 48 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:38.400 come to realize that this program probably needs to hear another voice, that the 49 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:45.919 university as a whole has to have another voice giving guidance about this program that 50 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:53.840 they hear and the fans need to hear another voice. So the voice is 51 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.199 I mean, I know what he means. It's not like a you know, 52 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.479 but that that the first thing. He mentioned voice multiple times throughout his 53 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:06.159 four minute video, and that I just don't really I don't know if I 54 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.199 can think of another coach walking away or even like in a statement mentioning the 55 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.520 voice thing. The voice thing was just weird. I mean, why why 56 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.079 don't you just say they could be looking for another you know, it's time 57 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:20.959 for another coach or some but another leader or something like that. But anyways, 58 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:27.279 he did let everybody know that he's he's done, and now Kentucky Search 59 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:30.360 officially starts, and we'll get into some of the candidates that obviously have already 60 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.560 been talked about quite a bit in the last couple of days. But apparently 61 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:40.319 one of the delays here as far as cal because there's now been I guess 62 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.240 three different times where Arkansas wanted to do a press conference and they've not been 63 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.240 able to do it. And I think one of the reasons is because I 64 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:50.279 believe that there's some truth to him having cold feet, I really do. 65 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:57.560 I think that I think he probably realized, yeah, it might have been 66 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.959 better for me to just kind of ride it out and do one more year 67 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.040 rather than going to a place that, yeah, they're gonna pay me a 68 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.560 lot of money, but it is in Kentucky, and I don't really want 69 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.360 to be in favor with Arkansas. But too late now, and it sounds 70 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.000 like it is for sure happening. But one of the reasons that maybe there 71 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.480 was a delay outside of what I just mentioned, is that apparently he wants 72 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:21.360 to talk to the Kentucky players the team, And I don't know if this 73 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:26.120 is true or not, but I could understand that being sort of a thing 74 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:31.240 that the university would want to monitor. But apparently he's not been allowed to. 75 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.680 And I say apparently, I mean it's coming from Trullia Donovan, which 76 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:38.199 is somebody that you know does have some sources that clearly he's proven that throughout 77 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.920 the last few months, and I believe on Sunday he was one of the 78 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:47.160 first people that gave this whole rumor can't be true. Somebody's got to be 79 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.720 trolling. He kind of gave it some life by stating, now I'm hearing 80 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:54.439 the same thing that they're like, they're talking. Don't know if it's going 81 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.639 to happen, but there's interest on both sides. And sure enough, here 82 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:01.720 we are. But if you are, do you think that's fair or foul 83 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.759 for Kentucky the university? I guess Mitch Barnhardt not allowing cal to talk to 84 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:11.319 the current team, I think it's fair because I mean, I don't know 85 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.920 if this would be considered tampering. But you can sit there and tell your 86 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.560 guys, hey, come up with me to Arkansas. We can do this 87 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.959 the same thing down in Fayetteville. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you 88 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:23.040 can still talk to him if they jump in the portal, regardless after you're 89 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.199 already at Arkansas. But maybe there's something a little different about doing it privately 90 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.720 in the locker room and stuff before it. And you could also text him, 91 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.279 you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I do, I 92 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.079 get what he's I'm sure that's what Mitch Barnhardt is thinking. Why he shouldn't 93 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.279 be able to do that though, it would be my guess. Yeah, 94 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:45.519 And I think they're despite Cali Perry really being you know, classy and respectful 95 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.199 on his way out in that video. We all know it was far from 96 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:54.560 an ideal situation between the administration and cal I mean, it was a mess. 97 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.000 And you know, matt On Ksr. Has mentioned some things that may 98 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.560 come out eventually that kind of really tell you just how dysfunctional it was between 99 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.000 Calipari and really everybody that works at the university. But you know, I 100 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.360 don't know if we'll ever end up getting those full details or not. But 101 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:14.480 I mean, this is this all played out from Sunday on and there was 102 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:18.560 no word from Calipari to anybody at the University of Kentucky that this was either 103 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.480 real or not real. He didn't talk to anybody. He was kind of 104 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.040 silent. So I think it might have been after he walked the dog, 105 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.519 or maybe it was before he walked the dog. Which again, now that 106 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.920 twenty four hours have passed, that him walking his dog on Richmond Road while 107 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:39.120 it's being discussed not only locally but all over the country. Maybe they did 108 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.639 it beforehand, and he's trying to like see if there'd be a parade of 109 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.920 people begging him to stay, and then like there would be evidence of that 110 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.319 and then maybe the university would think, like, man, we can't let 111 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:54.639 this guy walk away, even though he flirted with Arkansas and clearly has already 112 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.319 been talking to them and breached his contract. The fans are going to crush 113 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.439 us if he walks away. Let him walk And none of that happened. 114 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.600 So maybe he wanted to be wanted, and maybe that's why he's so sad, 115 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.160 or maybe that's why he looked so sad. Yeah, all these videos, 116 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.759 I think everybody to an extent wants to be wanted, and that's fair. 117 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.040 I think this is just this dynamic. There's not a fire I mean, 118 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.319 I don't believe there's one fireable instance here that has led to this this 119 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.839 ending. I mean, Kentucky would have fired him if he didn't have a 120 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.879 thirty three million dollars bio. I make no mistake about it. They would 121 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.959 have, and I know they could have when it comes to you know, 122 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.039 the money needed, Like it sounds like it was possible, but it's far 123 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.320 from ideal and it's just unheard of to do that. And I think you're 124 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.399 setting the future up for not failure. But I mean, knowing you paid 125 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.600 thirty three and here's the thing, like it's not your money as a fan, 126 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:50.039 right, I mean, I guess if you're taking booster money to do 127 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.559 it, then they would maybe feel some entitlement to something because again, they 128 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.399 are helping you out in a way that like they've never had to help you 129 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.559 out before. But I think making a change and knowing that Caliperi started to 130 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.679 choke in the tournament, didn't seem to really like anybody, and was not 131 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.759 kind to people, and just was just so bitter and he held a grudge 132 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.960 like he's bitter against Mitch and I mean, regardless of what he said in 133 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.799 the video, I think he's clearly bitter against fans who he feels have betrayed 134 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.919 him. It's like, all that's an issue and a huge factor in why 135 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.720 it needs to end. But it's not as if you know they've been god 136 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:26.919 off of for many years. They had a three seed this year, they 137 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:28.360 had a six seed. Last year, they were a two seed the year 138 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:33.840 they lost to Saint Peter's. So knowing you would pay thirty three million dollars 139 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.000 to walk away from something that in the grand scheme of things, albeit not 140 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.399 the standard of Kentucky, it's not that bad. Some embarrassing upsets and yeat 141 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.159 college basketball. Unfortunately, that's just how it works. You're gonna be remembered 142 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.000 for that, not the things you did to get a two and a three 143 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.080 seed. But making that kind of a financial commitment to just do something different 144 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:58.399 when which you had was not terrible is just a big risk. Like it 145 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.440 could work, it could be disastrous. Let's say you pay thirty three million 146 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.360 and you go get somebody and that next coach comes in sucks, and you 147 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.240 know, I don't think you'd ever seen anything to the level of Kenny payinn 148 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.639 bab. But let's just say they ended up hiring somebody and he was terrible. 149 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.159 In two years, there'd be so much heat on mitche about huh yeah, 150 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.440 you pay thirty three million to get rid of a guy who had us 151 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.000 in great shape and won a title. Here, you loser. I mean, 152 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.720 he just wasn't realistic to do it that way. So, you know, 153 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:37.120 I think cal he has to understand that despite fans wanting a change, 154 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.840 it's not like they're I mean, I don't know, only time will tell 155 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.919 as far as what the emotions will be like for Kentucky fans, But that's 156 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.639 what I was telling Matt before the show started earlier today, this thing lasting 157 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:54.440 as long as it did, and they're being some really good moments along the 158 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.799 way. And even when they you know, started to struggle in the postseason 159 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:01.120 in recent years, they still had good enough seasons, right, So you 160 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:05.000 know, with all that said, like I just, I mean, it's 161 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.440 sad because it's over. I don't think they're sad because they, you know, 162 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:11.559 want him to stay. I mean, I'm sure you could find plenty 163 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.600 of fans that would say, yeah, we should keep this guy. He's 164 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:18.399 cal he's a legend. But I can just sense that there's a lot of 165 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:20.759 excitement from the Kentucky fan base that is mostly just rooted to something new, 166 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.399 something fresh, because that thing had becomes stale. There's no doubt about it. 167 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:33.480 But as far as what he does at Arkansas, I mean, the 168 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.399 fact that he's already potentially having cold feet, which is that I think that's 169 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.720 what That's what played out right in front of us in the last couple of 170 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:45.240 days. It has me less confident that he's actually going to have much success 171 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:50.720 there. I mean, the thought of him having a roster next year that 172 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:56.879 looks, you know, anything close to the rosters that he's had recently Kentucky. 173 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.279 They just seems unrealistic. And I know the portal exists, and I 174 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.679 know that you can build a team, and louisll' was gonna hopefully do the 175 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.200 same thing. He Kentucky's gonna do the same thing, but he's at Arkansas, 176 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.480 and I don't think that, you know, I just don't think that 177 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:15.039 that's going to like, for example, instead of getting five players in the 178 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:20.399 top thirty or four players in the top twenty, and he could probably you 179 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.879 know, if he still continues to go the young route and get high school 180 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.159 players, he'll probably get I don't know, four players in the top fifty, 181 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.000 which is still a pretty good class. But it's you know, it's 182 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:33.720 not what he's used to. So it is over. He is let everybody 183 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.159 know that he's leaving. The expectation is that tomorrow morning he will be officially 184 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.159 introduced in Fayetteville as the new Arkansas coach. But man, what if he 185 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.759 backed out, Like what if he just knows like this, I'm not built 186 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.360 for this, Like this isn't you know, this isn't me. I can't 187 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.799 I can't call the hogs, I tell you it. Be very self aware 188 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.320 of him, Yeah, to know that. It'd be kind of a shame 189 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.399 that that's the route that he ends up taking, but he would have been 190 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.440 it would have been an all time fumble of the bag because I mean, 191 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.840 we would have never expected that type of basket. Well because he walked away. 192 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.000 I mean, I feel like he'll take the job now just because of 193 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.639 the money. And I'm sure if he doesn't coach and doesn't collect a salary, 194 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.919 I have a hard time thinking that he will be out of money. 195 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:24.200 But the Arkansas stuff has me a little like I think by now there should 196 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:28.320 be some level of like an announcement, like there should be some level of 197 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.879 a statement from Arkansas that he's the guy. And apparently they were talking over 198 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:37.639 the contract earlier, but I guess every university has different protocols to those kind 199 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:43.159 of things. But Pat Kelsey was essentially named the head coach before they had 200 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.679 the rubber stamp meeting of the board doing this and that right, like it 201 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.240 was a done deal before he actually, you know, showed up to Louisville 202 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.200 and walked up on stage and talked to us. So I don't know, 203 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.639 I uh, I don't really have any preference as to what happened next for 204 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.399 the Calipari side of it again, I hope that. In fact, I 205 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.279 hope they bring by Billy Gillespie Kentucky. That's what I would hope for. 206 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.200 Not realistic. What is he doing right now. He's a coach, He's 207 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.399 a D one coach. He coaches at Tarleton State. There, so he 208 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.360 was at a Ranger junior college where I think he might have started his coaching 209 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.519 career killing it at the juco level. And from there he ended up getting 210 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.559 the job at Tarleton State and they hired him because they were going from D 211 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.720 two to D one and they felt like he was somebody that, you know, 212 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:30.960 did have you know, they could take a chance on because you know, 213 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.120 they're Charleton State and they want somebody who is a coach that is, 214 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.559 you know, has has had some success. I mean he's had some failure 215 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:43.759 too, but you know, yeah, Tarleton State, they are in Stephenville, 216 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.200 Texas, and I feel like they're kind of good for who they are, 217 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.639 unless I'm just completely dreaming that. I mean, it would be like 218 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.679 a blackout, drunk dream considering we're talking about Billy Gillespie here. But yeah, 219 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.600 he's he's still coaching the name that's been put out there by like, 220 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.519 you know, people who are maybe not in the know specifically about who mix 221 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.480 Barnheart wants, but people who cover college basketball that are putting their list together. 222 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:13.200 Right in a lot of times people check these lists and don't really know 223 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:15.840 are they saying this is who they know is involved, or they're saying who 224 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.000 they should target, like it's such a vague thing. But Mark Pope, 225 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.440 who's at BYU, That's what I want them to hire, because I have 226 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:30.159 much less fear of Mark Pope kind of you know, being at the top 227 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:37.120 of college basketball than I do Dan Hurley or Jay Wright or who else NATO's 228 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:43.159 Nato, Yeah, I mean Scott Drew even And we'll get into this promise 229 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.960 you. I'm buying a little bit of time here because it's in about us. 230 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.960 You know, a minute or two, we're going to go live to 231 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.360 the ACC Network where they've got Pat Kelsey coming up for an interview, which 232 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.159 look forward to to let you guys hear that. But you know, when 233 00:15:54.159 --> 00:16:00.000 it comes to the names that were talked about initially, I mean Natos has 234 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:06.639 put out a statement that he's committed to Alabama. Jay Wright said no, 235 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.399 Hurley said no, and I looked there was somebody else that's kind of already 236 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.159 Donovan. There's NBA folks that claim there's no chance, but you know, 237 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.200 maybe they're wrong. All right, let's go live here to the ACC network. 238 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.799 Oh yeah, across twelve seasons as a head coach, including three of 239 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.720 the College of Charleston and then NADA winthrough. Of course, he might recognize 240 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:32.039 him because he had led the College of Charleston to the NCLU Tournament this year. 241 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:33.399 He lost to Alabama, who made it to the final four. But 242 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:38.039 that's old news. He's now in the ACC hometown Cincinnati, Ohio. Two 243 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.519 times Big South Conference Coach of the Year. Let's welcome in coach Kelsey into 244 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.919 the program, making his debut on the same day I'm making my debut. 245 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:48.799 What is up with that? Man? Look at baptism under fire for both 246 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.200 of you guys. Coach, First of all, congratulations on the new gig. 247 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.759 I know you're excited. Thank you, I really am, and it's 248 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.960 an honor to be on the show. I appreciate it. I didn't mean 249 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.400 to interrupt you, but you know I saw the video of the first time 250 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.119 you saw that office you're sitting in and you're like, oh my goodness, 251 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.000 I get to have this. I mean, it was like a kid on 252 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.599 Christmas for crying out love. Yeah. I walked in and looked around and 253 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.480 I just commented on, this is an unbelievably cool room. I thought it 254 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:26.279 was this like really tricked out lounge and huge glass wall overlooking the practice facility. 255 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.680 And I said, it's really nice. But where do I work? 256 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.599 Where's my office? And they said, you're standing in it. Okay, 257 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.079 that's pretty cool. I can get used to this. It's a pretty sweet 258 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.000 setup. Coach. I would love to know your thoughts on this, because 259 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.920 I've seen you showered with praise by so many respected voices, whether it be 260 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:48.319 Chris Paul, Jay Billis, Jay Wright as well as Nick Nurse. What 261 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.400 does it mean to you to have so many respected voices shower you with praise 262 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.039 and let you know, like, hey, Louisville made the right hire. 263 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.200 Well, you know, gosh, it's very nice of those people to say. 264 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.279 All I've tried to focus on throughout the course of my career is just 265 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:11.160 as the late great Skip pross or the late acc great Skip Prosser used to 266 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.359 say, you know, just crush it where you're at, Whether that was 267 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:18.279 when I was director of BASKETBLL operations at Wake Forest in the early two thousands, 268 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.079 or as an assistant coach, or I was a head coach. It's 269 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.519 just keeping your nose down and trying to be excellent where you're at, and 270 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:29.160 everything else kind of takes care of itself. But a lot of those names 271 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:33.400 you mentioned, you know, just blessed beyond belief to have coached a guy 272 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.319 like Chris Paul, who's maybe one of the top three point guards in the 273 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.119 history of this game. You mentioned, you know, Nick Nurse, who's 274 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:45.839 become a basketball mentor to me. Gosh, Jay Wright, GQJ are you 275 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.079 kidding me? I wish I dressed half as good as he did. But 276 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.920 yeah, I'm just honored to be here. Blessed. This is one of 277 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:57.599 the most storied, tradition rich programs in the history of collegiate basketball, and 278 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:03.200 to be at the Helm and to be sitting in the seat is a special 279 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.880 moment, and I'm so excited to get going and can't wait for basketball season. 280 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.160 If you close your eyes late at night, you listen real closely, 281 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.039 you can hear that ball starting to bounce already, even though the confetti came 282 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.880 down last night at about ten thirty. Basketball season is upon us soon. 283 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.920 Yeah, it's gotten to the point now that there is no day off. 284 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.519 You know, you had a great gig at Charleston, a great place for 285 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:32.000 a family and everything else. It had to be a special place for you 286 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.720 to leave. Charleston wasn't Because I'm listening, I've got buds down there in 287 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.319 Charleston. Man, they don't want to leave, and so you got to 288 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.960 figure that when this opportunity popped up, You're like, hey, this is 289 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.640 too good to be true. We gotta go, right, gotta go. 290 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.240 Yeah, very appreciative for the time that I had at Charleston, the support 291 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:53.880 that we received the city at Charleston really took my family in. One of 292 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.319 my good friends, not only in the profession but in the world, is 293 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:02.839 Matt Roberts, who's the athletic director there. And this will give you a 294 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.119 good indication. You know, he came in and just hugged me, and 295 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.200 he goes, you gotta go, And trust me, I didn't blink an 296 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.039 eye, you kidd me? Louisville. I mean I grew up in Cincinnati, 297 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.839 ninety miles from here, and I remember they took the floor at the 298 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:23.599 Cincinnati Riverfront Coliseum against Xavier in the eighties at some point when those Red jerseys 299 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.880 came out with Louisville on the chest. Man, that is something special, 300 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:33.279 Coach crumb Rick Patino. Amazing. You walk into this practice facility, you 301 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.680 walk into the Young Center, you look up and you see national championship banners. 302 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:41.279 It's one of the in my opinion, one of the blue blood. 303 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.599 It's one of the great programs in the history of this sport. Coach, 304 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.079 you're not coming empty handed, though. What does it mean to you that 305 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.359 a few of your players from Charleston are going to be joined you here to 306 00:20:52.440 --> 00:21:00.000 lay down a new foundation and establish an identity. Yeah, you're trying to 307 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.880 get me in uh n CUA a compliance jail by having me comment on people 308 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.920 that I'm not allowed to comment on it. So it's official. I've seen 309 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.720 a few people thank you for Is that a setup you're trying to pick on? 310 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.960 No, we wouldn't do that. Now you're trying to tell me you're 311 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.759 trying to sell me a pool pass down the hall like they do with the 312 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:22.359 freshmen when they come in. So now we're excited about the roster, we're 313 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.880 building and just ripping and running right now. You know they say all the 314 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.079 time in situations like this, you're like drinking out of a fire hose with 315 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.519 a straw. But the new way that I describe it is the way we're 316 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.279 going about it. We're just trying to eat the hose. Right. So 317 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:44.440 it's fun. Staff's going an unbelievable job, and it's an exciting time to 318 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.319 be a card And I can pay that. Pat, You've got the reputation 319 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.319 being a high energy guy. Your teams play that way, aggressive up and 320 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.400 down the floor. And I would think tying it into a fan base that 321 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:03.319 is rabid and is really basketball knowledge educated as Louisville basketball fans the whole state 322 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.079 the common and was unbelievable. It would seem like it's a perfect match. 323 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.240 And you mentioned seeing that Louisville jersey the first go around four decades ago. 324 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.680 There is something special about Louisville basketball. And I've said this a thousand times 325 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.519 on this show. Louisville needs to be good for the ACC. I mean, 326 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.440 when we started about a SEC basketball, we know about the Shades of 327 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.200 Blue and what Virginia's done, but Tony Bennett and Syracuse has got a great 328 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:30.960 reputation and so forth. But Louisville's got to be one of those teams that, 329 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.640 guess what, being in the top twenty is kind of like the norm. 330 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.720 Let's get to work and go try to win a championship. I'm sure 331 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.480 all of that was part of what influenced you to go, Hey, listen, 332 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:45.039 let's go. But what would you tell Louisville basketball fans today about what 333 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.640 you can expect to see coming up this fall? Yeah, you mentioned the 334 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:53.960 passion right that people have for this program. I think it's kind of one 335 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.759 hand. The type of fan bases that have the type of passion that they 336 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:03.519 do at the Universe have Louisville. And You're right, this is a knowledgeable 337 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.119 fan base. Heck, there's probably a state or two that would argue, 338 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.240 but I would win the argument that this is the greatest basketball state in the 339 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:17.319 United States. You know, Louisville is a city of over a million people 340 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.359 and there's a million assistant coaches in the metropolitan Louisville area. And that's what 341 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.400 you signed up for. These people are extremely knowledgeable, and man are they 342 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.720 passionate about Cardinal basketball. I say all the time, I'm just Joe Bagga 343 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.240 Donuts from the West side of Cincinnati, and then all of a sudden, 344 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.559 I get out of my car and I walk down the street into a restaurant 345 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.599 and like, people know who the heck I am? They start busting out 346 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.000 into the go karts chat the other day. It was crazy, but it's 347 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.119 awesome. You want to be somewhere where it matters. You don't want to 348 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:52.319 be somewhere where there's apathy, and you've got to try to draw blood out 349 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.519 of a rock like basketball matters here and it's a big, big deal. 350 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.920 And man, I'm blessed to be the head coach. Coach, you've had 351 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.279 success at the two previous stops. We're rattling off how you've won seventy percent 352 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:08.000 of your college basketball games. I'm very curious to know that. Have you 353 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.240 reached out to any mentors to ask them the biggest adjustment if there is one 354 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.519 going from a mid major as you mentioned, an elite program when and the 355 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.640 best in the country and what have they told you? Could you peel back 356 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.480 that curtain for us? Yeah, you know, we all have, you 357 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.559 know, people that we look up to pour into ask questions about you know, 358 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:32.680 being at this level I was blessed for ten years to be at the 359 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:37.839 Power five level, eight years in the ACC during my time with the late 360 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.119 great Skip Prosser, as I mentioned, and helped, I was a part 361 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:48.279 of building that right and I think it was an unbelievable era and period in 362 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.599 the history of Wake Forest basketball, and there was tons of pros and things 363 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.000 like that. We coach. But you know, going from my high school 364 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:00.279 coach, you know, all the way through my mentors in college, all 365 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.400 product of our upbringing. We're all product of our experiences and iron sharpens iron. 366 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.000 So I have a lot of friends in the business and it's hard to 367 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.079 just point out one or two, but people that pour into me. And 368 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:17.680 I look up to his mentors as far as we know. You talked about 369 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:22.759 the confetti following last night and the job Hurley's done at Yukon. Did you 370 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.640 gather anything from watching what Yukon has done with this crazy run that you go, 371 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.359 I guess what, that's something that we can incorporate right now at Little 372 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.759 well Man. I have the utmost respect for coach Hurley, what he's done 373 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.079 throughout his career, what he's built there at Yukon. You know, I 374 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.319 don't know him all that well, other than what I will say is we 375 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:51.480 both know that we are both two of the most passionate Cincinnati Bengals fans on 376 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.400 the face of your crazy. That's our only connection. And I don't know 377 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.400 why he's a Bengals fan because he's not from there. But every time I 378 00:25:57.440 --> 00:25:59.920 see him, he looks at me, and I look at him, and 379 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.000 he's like T Higgins. You know, we got to get him, right, 380 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.079 Joe Burrow, here we go again. I mean that cat, That 381 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.440 cat knows like the waiver wire pickups. He knows like the practice squad dudes 382 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:14.880 like that's I'm telling you, it's crazy. But you know, following their 383 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:21.680 run and you know they're they're so well chronicled right now because media attention obviously 384 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.839 when you go to a final four and you win the National Championship, and 385 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:30.599 I feel like a lot of our principles and our ideals and our culture parallels 386 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.240 in a lot of ways with them. You know, they talk about, 387 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.279 in my words, the way they describe it is they're an earn it program. 388 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.079 There are no promises made. Yeah, we we we compete, compete, 389 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.519 and everything we do. Coach Hurley coaches his guys hard holds him accountable 390 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.400 at a really high level. And to me, there's only one way to 391 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.559 do it, and that's the way. All right. So that was that 392 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.480 was enough, I suppose, because we're way out of time for our next 393 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:02.920 break. And I'm gonna say I'm gonna not comment on that interview other than 394 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.359 Pat Kelsey continues to say all the right things, because I mean, that 395 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:12.599 was on live TV on the ACC Network, and I mean, no comment. 396 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.519 If you don't have any nice to say, I don't say anything at 397 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.880 all, right, And again it's nothing to do with Pat. It's just 398 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.319 I mean, like not knowing he can't talk about players that haven't signed, 399 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.640 just kind of like feeling like somebody just told you you were having him on 400 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:33.079 as the interview started, I'll shut up. That's right. Coffee and Company 401 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:38.480 rolling along here on a Tuesday afternoon. We are fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee. 402 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:42.440 That's me the company man, mister John Alden alongside today as we are 403 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:48.759 officially in today one of the college basketball off season, which is not like 404 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.039 exciting. I'm sad that it's over, but the excitement levels I think are 405 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.160 still pretty high for Louisville just because it's new. Pat Kelsey has set all 406 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:03.400 the right things. And maybe I'm not going to lay this out in a 407 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.799 way that makes a lot of sense, but hopefully I can. I can 408 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.599 convey what I mean by this, But adding thirteen scholarship players is a task. 409 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.680 Now. It's great that you have the ability to do it in the 410 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.319 portal and you're not having to go out and get walk ons and stuff like 411 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.119 you would have to do in a previous world. But like that alone is 412 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.279 exciting, like it's going to be all brand new, and that also, 413 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.079 I guess this is the best way to put it. That really makes it 414 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.640 such a clean sweep slate, if that makes sense. There's gonna be no 415 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.839 remnants of the previous regime, and that's good. I would have loved to 416 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.400 have kept a couple of players, but I get why they want to leave, 417 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.519 and I get why Pat Kelsey's not going to beg them to stay or 418 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.920 prioritize, you know, them, whenever there's a ton of guys in the 419 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:53.400 portal that they're going to go after. How's Indiana looking in the portal. 420 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.240 I don't know that they picked up anybody yet, but there's a few that 421 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:02.960 are expected to make visits and potentially commit here. So what are you taking 422 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.960 his time? He's he's doing what he does. He's keeping the suspense up 423 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.240 as he usually does. Makes Indiana fans impatient. Well he's still I mean, 424 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:17.319 you know, like he still has a chance to put together. Here's 425 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.759 what I think is gonna be weird, John, They're gonna be a tournament 426 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.599 team next year. I believe it totally. I agree with you, But 427 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.799 will that be good enough? I just get the sense that Indiana fans like 428 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.319 they don't like. Here's the thing when you say make the tournament. Obviously 429 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.319 that's a good thing regardless, but you have the factor on what kind of 430 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.480 siege agets who beats you if you don't make a deep run. Because if 431 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.000 you lose to a team like they lost to a couple of years ago in 432 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.079 Miami, who made a final four run, that's not the worst thing in 433 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.400 the world. You would have liked. Miami team played Yukon closer than anybody 434 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.519 last two years in the tournament exactly, and a lot of Indiana fans just 435 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.799 saw it as, oh wow, Mike Woodson got beat down by a team 436 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.240 that they had no business losing to, Like that, which who's who's to 437 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.079 really say? What really is the I guess like the yeah, like that's 438 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.799 you know, you didn't think Miami was going to go to the final four. 439 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.400 And after if I remember correctly, at that time, I mean the 440 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.559 ACC going into both tournaments last year's the ACC has been discussed as like, 441 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.599 wow, what the hell happened to this league? So look, any I 442 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.160 think also in a weird way, it being the last game for TJD was 443 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.920 just like another like again, like no matter winning lost, it was going 444 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:23.720 to be his last game. But I think there's like some there's some emotion 445 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.079 connected to that Miami game without the realization that you know, you lost to 446 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.240 a really good team that ended up going to the final four. And again 447 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.680 this probably don't mean a whole lot to many people, but it's the truth. 448 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.839 That team that beat you played Dan Hurley's Yukon teams the last two years 449 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.440 closer than anybody in the tournament. So anyways, on the Kentucky side, 450 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:42.240 they're going to be looking for a bunch of new players too, I would 451 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.160 assume. I guess there's a chance that some guys could stick around for the 452 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.559 new coach. But I also wouldn't shock me if they're doing a complete overhaul. 453 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.599 And we now know that Caliperry is leaving, and what we didn't know 454 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.039 is like, well, I think we knew, but there was no official 455 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.200 word from Arkansas or Cal as far as that being where he's going to go. 456 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.000 He did mention there was some offers and that he's got you know, 457 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.319 he wants to keep coaching, and look, we know it's Arkansas. But 458 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.000 I do think at this point in the process for there's still not to be 459 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:12.599 any official thing from anybody on either side Cal or Arkansas. I shouldn't say 460 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.240 it's suspicious, but it just I would have expected there to be something by 461 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.880 last night. But I think he did actually have some cold feet. But 462 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.000 did you see the picture I just retweeted. Check out my Twitter account if 463 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.920 you haven't, because there is a picture of the basketball office on campus there 464 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.000 in Fayetteville and they got our man Cal. I mean, oh man, 465 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.839 how weird does that look? Those AI generated photos where they can take the 466 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.000 old clothes that he had on and make them look like the new ones are 467 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.400 really creepy but cool at the same time. Yeah, I mean that looks 468 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.039 real. It does, and he's I mean, I guess he's back to 469 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:53.880 maybe the color that he wore whenever he was at UMass and that was more 470 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.880 of a crimson though, wasn't it. Yeah, I guess so, yeah, 471 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.960 far from the blue he wore in the last two jobs at Memphis and 472 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.119 in Kentucky. But I guess again, I wouldn't be shocked if we get 473 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.599 to the end of the show today and there's some level of like a press 474 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.920 release just claim, you know, just just sharing the news officially that he 475 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.240 is the next head coach. Uh. And then tomorrow I would imagine they 476 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.119 will have the formal presser in the morning to announce him. And I'm going 477 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.240 to listen to it. I'm not gonna like seek it out, like if 478 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.680 I'm doing something, I'm not gonna, like, you know, completely abandon 479 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.359 whatever I've got going on to go listen to it. But I am curious 480 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.599 to hear what he says, because you know, he's Cali Perry. They 481 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:38.160 believe that he is, in fact someone that like is a legendary coach. 482 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.240 Therefore, like they're just I mean, they feel like they won big by 483 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.599 getting him, and they may have, but also like Eric Musselman was better 484 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.000 than John Caliperi in the last four years, he just was I mean this 485 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.160 year they weren't you know, they weren't a good team, but you know, 486 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.920 four years ago Kentucky won non games. So is he gonna sell right? 487 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.640 Is he there to? I don't think anybody could could match Pat Kelsey 488 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.920 in his energy and all that, just because you know, I mean, 489 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.640 my man's always on and he brings the juice, enthusiasm, high energy. 490 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.319 I mean that's his brand. Cal not so much, but cal is he 491 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.599 Because think about the press conference situations you heard from Caliperi in the last two 492 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:30.559 years, talking down to fans, snot comments here and there about people not 493 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:37.119 knowing basketball. Just I mean, you don't even have to listen to it 494 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.519 to them closely to know that that's just kind of been the It's just kind 495 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.960 of in the theme with him or you know, abandoning press conferences and not 496 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.880 doing them after losses. But like he's gonna have to sell himself to a 497 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.279 new fan base. But then again, like they're already happy that he's there. 498 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.759 This is such a you don't have to win the press conference situation, 499 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.240 correct, would you agree? John? Like he's not going in having to 500 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.079 like win the fans over. I don't think just in the press, he 501 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.559 can still go in and say the wrong thing. Yes, he can go 502 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.519 in and act like that they need to be thankful that he's there, kind 503 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.559 of Mick Cronin might have done if he got the Louisville job. Yeah, 504 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.440 And that's kind of that's that's the intrigue for me, is that is he 505 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.320 going to gas them up? Because he didn't even gass Kentucky up in recent 506 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.199 years. I mean, is he going to take a shot at Kentucky? 507 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.840 I kind of feel like he will. But then again, his sad video 508 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.400 that he posted earlier today that officially confirmed that he is out, that made 509 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.480 me kind of think that he wouldn't do that. It could be a total 510 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.280 one to eighty though, and I wouldn't be surprised one bit, Like if 511 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.480 he's totally different tomorrow, is completely energized, and maybe that was all a 512 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.280 facade that he did for the camera, and you never know. I think 513 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:44.760 has checked out as he has seemingly been, and you know, those who 514 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.039 are close to him, Seth Greenberg, who by the way, embarrasses himself 515 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.440 anytime he goes on ESPN to talk about Caliperry because he's clearly in love with 516 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.960 a man or something. I mean, like it's insane, and it was 517 00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.280 awesome to see Shannon Sharp and Stephen A. Smith just completely body bag Seth 518 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.880 Greenberg for just saying nonsensical things about Cali Perry yesterday on ESPN. He's not 519 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.159 he's not leaving Kentucky. He's moving forward to Arkansas, and that he didn't 520 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.480 there's no way he underachieved when you know quite you know, quite literally, 521 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.599 everybody who doesn't follow college basketball closely knows how many great players they watch night 522 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:22.199 in and night out on ESPN, and they didn't accomplish a whole lot some 523 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:27.159 of those players. So anyways, I mean, I think he needs to 524 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.480 be energized and like vengeful in a way. Not he didn't need to say 525 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.199 anything nasty and he didn't need to fake it, but I feel like for 526 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.039 him to really give this his all and thrive at Arkansas in a way where 527 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.280 he can look back and say, you know, they should have they should 528 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.599 have been nicer to me because we had it great and now I'm here and 529 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.559 it's at their expense because I'm running the SEC. I think for him to 530 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.800 truly get that done. He needs to be energized, and I think the 531 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.239 move alone is going to be energizing for him, a fresh start, wanting 532 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.880 to prove people wrong. But I think the guy also knows he didn't have 533 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:02.719 a whole lot to prove and he's just been kind of checked out at Kentucky 534 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.960 that. I mean, there'll be more details I believe to come out, 535 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.639 as far as just things that like he didn't really do that would would would 536 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.320 you would think that any coach would do. I don't think it's to the 537 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.559 level of Kenny Payne. But anyways, before we get to uh, before 538 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.079 we get to our next break here, uh, let's let's squeeze in a 539 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.440 phone call five two five hundred as the number. Don't have a whole lot 540 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.199 of time here, but we will go to Will Will welcome into Sports Talk 541 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.800 seven ninety. How were doing? Hey, man, I think you're on 542 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.079 You're on plane. He's gonna cale's gonna be rejuvenile. I mean, I'm 543 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.280 not a cal fan, I'm a Louisville fan. But everything that Kentucky wanted 544 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.159 him to do, he's going to do it now. Yep, like all 545 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.760 the changes and stuff, because he's got something to prove, and it won't 546 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.440 and it won't be intermitting that he was wrong and they were right. It'll 547 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.400 just be you know, he'll be able to do it and say, you 548 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:53.280 know it exists. He's a lot like a politician no name. Uh, 549 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:59.159 that's about retribution. And he played those guys. He had his money. 550 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.880 He has his in a row lined up, and he made Kentucky wade. 551 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.719 Anybody spends this that Kentucky got. Now, he did get him off the 552 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.199 chain with that thirty three mel give him that. So they kind of broke 553 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:14.039 even. But you know, the typing guy just googled a guy the air, 554 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.719 not the corporation. The air is worth three billion dollars. You got 555 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.480 the richest family in the world down the road from him. He is gonna 556 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:29.480 have every dollar he wants. He's gonna be the poor guy when it comes 557 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:36.360 to hanging out with those people, isn't he dude? The woman Walton daughter, 558 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:42.480 she's worth more than forty percent of Americans. Wow, he is, 559 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.639 dude. He got he saw the right on the wall. He was sitting 560 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.079 back. He couldn't get his mojo. He said, you know what, 561 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.400 I'm gonna flip the whole script. He was planning this, probably a couple 562 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.280 of months. He knew he was getting out of there. The typing guy 563 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.920 is his buddy. Can you imagine having a guy that worth three hundred million 564 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.159 three bills? I tell you what, Kentucky, it's gonna be interesting. 565 00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.760 I bet you're gonna have some massive security when he comes in rupt. That's 566 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:13.360 gonna be very interesting because he's gonna shatter those recruits even. Isn't then the 567 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:19.079 Kentucky boy thinking about reconsidering, I don't know. But the other kid, 568 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:23.199 the other one, Oh Perry, isn't he thinking about reconsidering? Oh I'm 569 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:28.000 sure, Yeah, I'm sure he may consider decommitting and opening up his recruitment. 570 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:29.760 I don't know if he'd follow cal or not, but yeah, I 571 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.000 mean, look, I think look, not only does and I appreciate the 572 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.599 call. Well, I think anybody that's in this recruiting class for him, 573 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.719 anybody that's on this roster that doesn't have the ability to go to the NBA 574 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.119 yet or doesn't want to, I don't wouldn't rule out anything as far as 575 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.719 those guys following him there, I wouldn't. All right, quick break, 576 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.000 we'll come back on the other side. Wrap up. A four o'clock hour, 577 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.079 keep it rolling along again. We'll let you hear what Jay Wright had 578 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:51.400 to say, what Dan Hurley had to say, because obviously they were asked 579 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.880 about the Kentucky job. And although I do believe them and I don't think 580 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.599 those two would go and I believe NATO's statement, but you have to keep 581 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.760 in mind at that point, maybe they felt like, well, hey, 582 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.360 they haven't really reached out to me yet, so therefore I'm going to put 583 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.440 it out there now that I'm not interested, so it doesn't look like I 584 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.639 got turned down. Well, maybe things change when now the job is actually 585 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.159 open and they're going to pick up the phone and be making some calls here, 586 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.519 don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company. 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This is where I got to be professional because 605 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.360 I'm doing, you know, a live read for my friends at Louisville Men's 606 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.639 Clinic. But like I'm a big fan of doctor Wood. The conversation alone 607 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.760 is entertaining and uh and worth it. But again, the only way to 608 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.719 find that out is you go to Louisvimen's clinic dot com and make an appointment 609 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.920 or give him a call. Babs who four four four four thousand? All 610 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.400 right? So has there an? Has there been a name that you've seen? 611 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.440 And and I don't know if you have as many Kentucky fans that you 612 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.559 interact with or whatever, uh, whatever it may be, But have you 613 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:01.920 seen any Kentucky fans mentioning a name for the job that you just think is 614 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.760 like, what, like you know, how like how would that make sense? 615 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:13.440 Fan wise? No? But I've I hate to talk about a dude 616 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.960 that I appreciate it, which is mister Mike de Coursey. But he was 617 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.920 talking about Sean Miller earlier on a different show today, and I'm just like 618 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.559 that seems like it would be a very odd fit for Kentucky somebody like him. 619 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.519 So de Coursey I saw his list. He put out a list at 620 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.440 Sporting News, and look, he's you know, I'm not the biggest fan 621 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.159 of his, but he's somebody that's done this a long time and is very 622 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:36.320 much connected in the world of college basketball and his opinion, you know, 623 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.480 although I don't agree with it much, I know many people probably do, 624 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.320 but he had a list that I just think was insanely bad for this job. 625 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.920 And I mean I've started to think, Okay, maybe Mike is right, 626 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.079 and maybe I want Mike to be right because he just thinks that it's 627 00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.840 a waste of time for Kentucky to go after Well maybe I'm not gonna speak 628 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:01.920 for him, and I'm sure he didn't think it's wasting time because again, 629 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.400 it's Kentucky. There really isn't anybody they could pursue that would that would be 630 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:08.719 like why you call them? And the reason is because, well, we 631 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.440 have probably the best job, and I mean that's what Mitch Barnard is part 632 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.239 of the thing. We have the best job in this sport in our opinion, 633 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.079 and we want to We don't think there's anybody that's like out of our 634 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:27.480 league essentially, but NATO, it's Jay Wright, Billy Donovan Hurley. I 635 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.079 mean, those are names that he just kind of quickly in his article at 636 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.119 Sporting News just kind of moved on from him. Was like, you know, 637 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.800 those guys aren't going to say yes, So here's who you should prioritize. 638 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.000 And he has the number one being Mark Pope, number two being Sean 639 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:44.440 Miller, Rick Bettino number three, Lamont Paris number four, Emir abdu Raheem 640 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.599 at USF number five, Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska number six, and TJ Alzilberger 641 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.320 at number seven. Like, here's the thing. There's a handful of those 642 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.960 coaches in there that I have no doubt would win at Kentucky because Kentucky's got 643 00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.679 resources and there's some good coaches there. But like that can not be a 644 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:08.119 more you know, incompatible list when it comes to the BBN preferences, right, 645 00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.760 Like there's no way they're they're throwing out names and there they're saying Pope 646 00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.000 Miller, I mean, And the only reason Mark mont Paris, the only 647 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.559 reason Mark Pope is even really in the discussion is because of his alumni is 648 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:22.960 Steatus, No doubt about it. Not that he's not a bad coach, 649 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.559 but he just doesn't. He has not done anything to where he would even 650 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.320 sniff that job if he didn't play for Kentucky, no doubt about it. 651 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.679 So we'll get more into the names as far as the latest. But I 652 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.239 said this as we went to the last break, and we're a little bit 653 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:42.920 crunched for time here. But the the statement from nato Oates and the answer 654 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:49.000 from Hurley last night. I believe that neither of those guys are going to 655 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.480 be the coach at Kentucky. But I also understand that, like you can't 656 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:59.599 really take a whole lot of what Hurley said last night specifically for you don't 657 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:00.679 think you could. You could really put a lot into it, just because 658 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.400 again, what he said is exactly what you would expect you when you say 659 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.079 you just won his second national championship, while he's celebrating with the university, 660 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:12.400 with the players, family, all that stuff, and with Natoates. I 661 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.960 have a theory about Natoates, but we'll get to that on the other side. 662 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:16.039 One more hour to go. It's coffee and company. We are field 663 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.079 about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety