1 00:00:06,599 --> 00:00:11,519 Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of My JavaScript Story. This week 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,320 we're talking to SAW Music podcast. Hey, folks, this is Charles Maxwood 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,399 and I just launched my book, Maxicoter's Guide Defining Your Dream Developer Job. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,960 It's up on Amazon. We self published it. I would love your support. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,079 If you want to go check it out, you can find it there, 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,359 The Maxicoter's Guide Defining Your Dream Developer Job. Have a good one, 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,399 max out And yeah, do you want to just introduce yourself real quick, 8 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:37,000 let people know who you are and what you do? Yeah? Sure, 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:44,840 JavaScript developer basically out of India and the capital city of India to specific I've 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,520 been working as a sort of a full stack, mostly friend and focused developer 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,119 for the past four or five years. I started when I was in college 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,240 as a freelancer and I've been working full time for Around. We used Gotcha, 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,439 Yeah, we brought you on. We had you on react around up 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,439 in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and yeah. I liked talking to people, 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,439 just kind of getting people's story, like, Hey, you know where you're 16 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:15,000 from, how did you get into JavaScript? What do you do? You 17 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,879 know all that stuff. So I'm curious as we kind of dive into that. 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,040 How did you get into programming? That's kind of a pretty common story 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,719 from a lot of developers. You know, I was young and like, 20 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,239 oh, I like to play commuter games, wanted to hack around in some 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,120 of the games, picked up some interest, you know, created some mods 22 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:42,120 and stuff, started learning copy pasting code from here and there, and chose 23 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,920 to pursue that as my college degree. As soon I was in college, 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,640 went dorm room and wanted some extra money. Went looking for WordPress, started 25 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,359 learning php, did some WordPress projects from online, you know, stuff like 26 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,680 what was it back then, od esk or something like that. Up work 27 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,519 is it right now? There's some sites like that, some pretty picked up 28 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:10,639 some projects online, then started getting some friend and stuff. Didn't know JavaScript, 29 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,400 didn't understand anything about it, so started learning, went through some courses 30 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:21,680 online, free code camp and stuff. Right cool? So, yeah, 31 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,360 you you were doing WordPress and PHP. Why did you pick that just because 32 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,680 it was popular or because you thought you could work in it, or because 33 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,120 you really loved it or what? I wanted some quick books and everywhere I 34 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:42,879 searched online for some easy project like some maybe some some blogs, some website 35 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:46,439 where it was just some content and you re into some content and everybody wanted 36 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:50,560 it on WordPress. So started learning that right, didn't even start coding. 37 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,400 I just put some plugins and logged into the admin dashboard and boom, the 38 00:02:55,439 --> 00:03:00,360 website was just up. So it was pretty easy to up. Right, 39 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:04,280 makes sense. Yeah, I've done a little bit of WordPress stuff, mostly 40 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,680 for my own projects, and yeah, I mean some of it's pretty straightforward, 41 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,159 you know, depending on what you're hacking into it, and then yeah, 42 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,159 some of it gets a little bit complicated if you're adding completely new features 43 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,360 to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So so how did you make 44 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,560 the transition to JavaScript? You mentioned free code Camp, but yeah, so 45 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:30,120 I started learning JavaScript. I was posting a computer degree, but there wasn't 46 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:37,560 much you know, JavaScript there. It was mostly CEC plus plus and everything. 47 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:43,719 Yep. So yeah, I started learning JavaScript on my own, started 48 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,960 copy pasting code, started trying to learn jQuery, some bits of uh, 49 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,199 you know, dom manipulation, some drop down menu, some krausers or something 50 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,159 like that. What made you want to make the transition to JavaScript? So 51 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,240 I started getting projects where they would say, like I would get product. 52 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,080 I got a project for some merchant I sell out of UK and they wanted 53 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,680 me to make a canvas sort of graphical editor where you could put your logos 54 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,839 on T shirts and everything and then like you printed out and order. So 55 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:21,759 I googled and saw the canvas Steam of five canvas. You got to know 56 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,000 JavaScript to interact with it. That's that's when I started learning JavaScript, then 57 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,720 delve into like as soon as I started getting more Angler one was popular back 58 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:39,079 then, trying to learn Angler one made some one or two projects and that 59 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:42,639 then moved to React. Oh, I gotcha. So when you were picking 60 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,160 up JavaScript and you know, building out yeah, the T shirt app, 61 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,720 I mean, what was it that really drew you in that made you go, 62 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,600 you know what, this is what I really want to do? Well? 63 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,759 I think it was about the quick feedback loop. I guess, like 64 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,519 anything like nothing's wor working, just throwing a console log and just look at 65 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:06,199 it. What's what's happening there, what's the data that's coming which one is 66 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:10,759 undefined, and you know, work from there. Like it was, it 67 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,399 was pretty easy to approach, like just sling some console lugs. And I 68 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:19,519 think that the easiest part was for me was just add a file, add 69 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:24,240 a script tag or anything to HTM and you can start playing with it. 70 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:29,600 Immediately. And also there were so many online places where you don't even have 71 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,560 to set up your own any environment on your commutage jas being code pen and 72 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,279 just start hacking. Yeah makes sense. So yes, you get in. 73 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,040 You said you were doing jae query initially. Yeah. Yeah. How long 74 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:51,120 ago? Was this twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, fourteen December? Maybe December? 75 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Yeah? So by then, I mean I think Angular and some of 76 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,319 the other frameworks were pretty well established. Trying to remember exactly when reacts started 77 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,959 to take off, but I think it was around then as well. So 78 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,199 yeah, I mean why jQuery. Was it just because you were working in 79 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,240 the WordPress world and that's what they were using or was there some other reason? 80 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,879 Yeah, because at the very start JavaScript I didn't quite understand much of 81 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:21,800 it, and I mostly copy pasted stuff from like different places, Like I 82 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:29,000 wanted to make some kind of dragon drop in a feature and just saw some 83 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:31,600 code jQuery, waste code online, copy pasted it, tweaked it around, 84 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:36,480 had to lun JavaScript aston as the tweaking wasn't working out. That was my 85 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:42,439 gateway stuff like jQuery, And then people were talking about anglers, so picked 86 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:46,439 the angler from the build some to do apps, right, you built some 87 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,600 to do apps? Yeah, so yeah, what did you like about Angular 88 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:56,959 moving from jQuery? I is the demo was pretty sleek, the home page 89 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,720 demo that everybody keeps talking about, the two way binding. When we first 90 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:04,839 saw it, it felt like magic at that moment. I was also looking 91 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:11,399 at react at that time, but kind of felt a little foreign to me 92 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,600 at that moment and didn't go and immediately stuck around with Angler for some months, 93 00:07:16,879 --> 00:07:23,000 and I think then they dropped Angler too, but everybody was saying it 94 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:28,639 was backward incompatible, and that was true, and I thought, I don't 95 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,759 want like and everybody was saying Reactors the way and everything. I just tried 96 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:38,639 to learn it after the initial hiccup, maybe did a course on it or 97 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,319 something like this, consumed some videos on it, and then it's pretty good 98 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,519 experience. Stuck with it. Cool. So what kinds of things have you 99 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:53,439 built over the years? Mostly when I was in college and was in freelancing, 100 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:59,199 my belts and stuff like custom fiveways apps, mostly apps, custom stuff 101 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:05,199 like appointment booking for small clans, some custom CMS systems, build some with 102 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,079 next and gatsby recently, and then I think one of the biggest ones was 103 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:16,879 reactnative app. Built a reactative app with that was I think my first app 104 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,480 where I used reducts and stuff and enjoyed the startup. Early early stage startup 105 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:30,759 where I worked it was a fintech startup ward worked on Marnstack mostly so worked 106 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:35,279 there for a year and a after college, multiple fintech apps and reactnative app 107 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,960 that was used by a lot of low end devices and all that. So 108 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,840 optimizing for low end devices in India, you know, where the internet speed 109 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,240 and the rural areas are not that good, and thinking about those kind of 110 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:54,720 bottlenecks, uh, low end smartphones, building with something like reactnative, which 111 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,919 is pretty difficult if you know. So, Yeah, those kinds of chat 112 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,039 mostly, Yeah makes sense. I'm a little curious as you kind of moved 113 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:09,080 through all of these changes, did you have a mentor or any kind of 114 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,559 community meetups things like that. It seems like a lot of those are I 115 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,440 don't want to say they're easy to find, but I talk to people in 116 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,279 the US and it seems like in some cases they're easier to find than others. 117 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,080 And I'm curious what the community looks like in India. Yeah, the 118 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,480 community is there, it's it's I wouldn't say, I don't think it's as 119 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,600 vibrant as you guys have in US or even in Europe. Maybe it's more 120 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,279 like since I'm up in North India and in and around Delhi, it's more 121 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,440 vibrant or in Bangalore because that's where all the tech people are in India. 122 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,639 Okay, but we still have a lot of people here and I happen to 123 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,840 be fairly active in the meet up community, have given some talks, have 124 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:03,120 gone to many, so it's pretty good. Some pretty good people have The 125 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:07,840 community is great. Yeah, there's the React community is pretty active. I 126 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,639 think in terms of other ones I am not very sure about, but React 127 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,440 community is pretty good. Nice. So uh yeah, I mean, what 128 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,840 what is it that's keeping you in React right now? I think one of 129 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,519 the things that's keeping me in React right now is I've been lucky enough to 130 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:30,919 now have written two apps scratch with just from scratch with just to React hooks. 131 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:35,759 So so like when reactors came out, I really wanted to try out 132 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:39,919 reactors and production apps, but you know, you just can't rewrite existing apps 133 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,320 just because you want to try out react books. But I had been lucky 134 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,000 and we were starting new projects at the very just when React hoooks became came 135 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,879 into the stable release, so we decided to go with typescript and React toooks 136 00:10:54,879 --> 00:11:00,440 for that app. And it was a good experience and like, how really 137 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:07,519 fun building staff building custom reactors when there weren't many there out there. Build 138 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,159 some custom stuff and that's pretty fun. And then moved on to some interesting 139 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:16,840 stuff with React. Like currently I'm at work, I'm working on a graphically 140 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,960 editor using React, which is so like currently I'm working at a at an 141 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:35,720 enterprise tech startup where we build solutions for enterprise ERP integrations. So there's there's 142 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:39,480 this so you can imagine it as a visual programming kind of editor, not 143 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,799 based graphically sort of editor for migrating data from systems to another and you can 144 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:52,159 drag and drop stuff and those kind of support like think DRYO for ERP integration 145 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,759 stuff. So that's pretty interesting, and building in a React has been a 146 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:05,039 like pretty good experience having and testing like how canvas can be used with React 147 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,879 customer renderers and stuff. Nice, what are you working on now? So 148 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:13,240 yeah, that that is my prime focus right now. That visulator at work, 149 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,360 and so yeah, that's that's the privy thing I'm working on and on 150 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,039 the side, actually, me and one of my very close friends friend, 151 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:33,679 we built a small dev community sort of blogging site called abl dot bio and 152 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:39,279 so we hack around there creating rich text editors and stuff that is also on 153 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:45,440 React. So it's pretty interesting. Again, That's that's what's going on right 154 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,559 now. Are you building applications with view JS, then you need to check 155 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,919 out the Views on View podcast. Every week we bring in a guest panelist 156 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:56,360 from the view community and talk about the interesting things being built with view or 157 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:58,600 the changes coming in its ecosystem. You can find it all at Views on 158 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:05,399 View. Gotcha. Now, I'm also just because we're in the middle of 159 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,279 this coronavirus thing, and I know some people are going to listen to it. 160 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,759 A lot of our listeners are in the US, and you know, 161 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,559 we're kind of focused on our own situation. But I'm a little curious, 162 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,200 what is the situation down there with all of this stuff. You know, 163 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,720 I'm assuming you've got people working from home and things too, But yeah, 164 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,559 like, yeah, we have everyone working from home here as far as I 165 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,320 know, and it's been the case for I think since the start of this 166 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:37,320 week. So a lot of the companies, like a lot of the tech 167 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,919 based companies like US, which already had you know, the distributed team architecture 168 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,960 setup, they went into work from home pretty early, I guess. And 169 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:54,279 we we didn't have too many cases at least not confirmed cases at the very 170 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:01,360 start, but it's now picked up as as of now, I think we 171 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,240 have more than two forty cases positive confirmed cases. So it's getting like the 172 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,240 people are getting paranoid now. People weren't taking it that seriously at the very 173 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,840 start, like we were saying, it's just a high, but it will 174 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:16,519 pass so pass over, like it won't come to India or something, I 175 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:24,080 don't know, some some you know stuff. But people are trying to take 176 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:33,039 it seriously now. And I think on Sunday we have government announced lockdowns starting 177 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,480 sort of. So is it that widespread? Is it showing up in areas 178 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:43,120 around you or are there any hotspots? Yeah, yeah, it's showing up 179 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:50,639 around here. We have like people have been instructed to not go out if 180 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:56,039 they don't need to avoid hospitals for you know, regular checkups, delay any 181 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:03,159 any work stuff or anything. You then just don't go out. That's that's 182 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,559 the common stuff, and just like I think you guys had an issue with 183 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:13,240 toilet paper selling out and stuff. Yeah, I don't understand why because it 184 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:20,000 doesn't really affect gastro intestinal. I mean, it's all respiratory from what I 185 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:26,200 understand. So but yeah, sold out a toilet paper in the grocery stores 186 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:31,320 and then yeah, and it was funny too because we were like, oh, 187 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,120 we don't need to go do that, and then we realized that we 188 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,559 were actually running out of toilet paper at home, and so yeah, so 189 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,440 I had to run down to the grocery store on Monday and wait in line 190 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,240 to get toilet paper. So, I mean, it's funny what people do 191 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:54,360 with this stuff. I don't understand exactly why it was toilet paper. But 192 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,759 I also I see a lot of people in a situation where they're they don't 193 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:02,399 have information and so they just go do what they think they have to. 194 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:07,679 So yeah, it's been the case as well. People have been talking about 195 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:12,080 random stuff like if you take garlic it won't infect you, or some stuff, 196 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,200 and people have been buying stuff like that. People have been holding masks 197 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,120 and sanitizers and everything. Anyway, we'll see where it all. We'll see 198 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 where it all ends up. But yeah, I've also been hearing some promising 199 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:32,320 things about the possibility of some drugs being effective at curing or preventing coronavirus. 200 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,200 So hopefully sooner rather than later everything kind of goes back to normal. Well, 201 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,320 yeah, because we are on the topic of coronavirus, I really forgot 202 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,000 to mention we actually, my colleagues and I were working on some stuff like 203 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:52,519 how we created open source website which instructed people as to how to handle the 204 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,039 coronavirus or testing procedures here, or what to do and what not to do 205 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:03,440 in India, a very specific website where you get instructions as to why to 206 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,119 get tested close to you, when should you get tested, what are the 207 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,359 government instructions around the whole thing. Maybe you'll be able to share it or 208 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,640 something. Yeah, definitely, if you have something interesting about this, I'm 209 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,799 happy to share it. So yeah, yeah, I like asking this question, 210 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,400 and so I'm curious to see what you say. But are there any 211 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,240 like themes or lessons that you've learned over the years that you want to share 212 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,640 with the audience as far as you know, your career and things like that. 213 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,880 One of the lessons I've learned is don't abstract stuff early because it comes 214 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,480 to buy to you back a bit later on, because if you abstract early, 215 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:42,240 it becomes like it doesn't fit most of the cases that are going to 216 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,440 come in the future. And I have been a bit better that we too 217 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:51,240 often and hopefully I've learned and don't do that much often these days. Also, 218 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:56,640 Yeah, like just look at the patterns that you look in your code 219 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,160 and create stuff, and like abstract only when you see multiple patterns coming up. 220 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,480 I think we talked about design patterns the last time I was on. 221 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,240 Yeah, we did. It was a while ago, but yeah, we 222 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,680 did good deal. Well, if people want to connect with you online, 223 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:12,960 is there a good place for them to do that? I think Twitter? 224 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,200 Twitter is the best place, I guess. And what's what's your Twitter handle? 225 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,519 It's funny, it's a dread. I had to spell it out. 226 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,039 Maybe, yeah, go ahead, spell it out and type it into the 227 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,759 chat so that we can get it in the show notes. Yeah. Sure, 228 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:32,400 So it's d r e n t h e R. Is there a 229 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:37,480 story behind that? Oh? Yeah. It was very big into mmrpgs when 230 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,880 I was in school, and this was my in game name. Everywhere in 231 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,880 World of Our Craft and everywhere I got you, so it's stuck with me. 232 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,839 Good deal. Was there anything else that we should know about you before 233 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:53,480 we go to picks? Uh No, that's that's pretty much a blog that 234 00:18:53,920 --> 00:19:00,000 maybe we'll be coming out with some live streams and stuff and do graphical editors 235 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,079 stuff. So maybe follow me on Twitter and maybe i'll get the link. 236 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Step. All right, well, let's go ahead and do some picks. 237 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:07,519 Now, it's been a while since you've been on the show, but picks 238 00:19:07,599 --> 00:19:11,480 or just stuff that you're enjoying, stuff that you like. One thing that 239 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:14,920 my wife and I've been watching together lately is The Masked Singer. It's a 240 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:21,079 TV show and they have celebrities they dress up in costumes so you can't see 241 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 any part of them, and then they come out and sing and then they 242 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,960 get voted off the show basically, and that's been super fun. The last 243 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,400 one we watched was The Swan, which was Bella Thorne. She got voted 244 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,559 off, but the week before that, which my wife had heard who it 245 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:42,480 was, and so when I reacted to it, she just cracked up laughing. 246 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:47,000 It was Sarah Palin, who was a vice presidential candidate. Here in 247 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:51,319 the US. Yeah, yeah, and yeah. I mean she's a terrible 248 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,119 rapper, she can keep the rhythm. But anyway, it was hilarious because 249 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,160 you know, they're guessing all these people and I was like, oh, 250 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,000 they're right, it's t and then she turned around. I'm like, Nope, 251 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:06,440 it's not. But anyway, this super super funny. So if I 252 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,920 spoiled it for anyone, I'm sorry. But by the time this comes out, 253 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,119 it a little bit a few weeks, so I'm gonna pick that and 254 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,359 then I'm just gonna remind people about two other things that I've got going on. 255 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,759 One is the meetups. So I'm putting on some meetups for JavaScript, 256 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:22,799 Angular, React, view and Ruby developers. They are online, which means 257 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,839 that all of the virtual handshaking, hugs and fist bumps you want you can 258 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,960 do because you won't get anyone sick. I just talked to Dean Radcliffe and 259 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:36,759 I think he's gonna show up and do something about real time JavaScript stuff at 260 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:40,039 the first JavaScript meetup, and I'm working on lining folks up for some of 261 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:41,839 the other ones, so if you want to talk at those, I'm not 262 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,880 putting out like any kind of formal CFP, somebody comes with me, comes 263 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,400 to me with an idea that I like for a presentation, then we'll do 264 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,319 that. And then at the end we're just gonna I'm gonna do what I 265 00:20:53,359 --> 00:21:00,400 can to rotate as many people through the live video chat as possible want to 266 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,720 be on there so that we can just chat right for a half hour or 267 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:08,359 so, and that way people can we can get some connection in the community 268 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,519 going on, and I'll probably set up either a Facebook group or a Slack 269 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:15,680 channel or something for those, but we'll see that's kind of where that is 270 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,279 that's at. And then go check out JAS remote comp for JavaScript Remote comp 271 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:25,839 JAS remote comp dot com. Seventy five dollars for tickets three days, about 272 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:29,839 twenty four talks and yeah, you know, if your conference got canceled, 273 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:32,920 you know, come hang out with us. I mean, that's really why 274 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,480 I'm doing it, and I'm trying to charge as little as possible and still 275 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:40,599 be able to make things run. So, you know, seventy five dollars 276 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,119 kind of where I landed. So there you go. How about you, 277 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,599 do you have some picks? Yeah? Sure, So lately I've been very 278 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:53,400 much into editors, both recue Sorry graphical and you know text editors on web. 279 00:21:53,559 --> 00:22:00,279 So our pick this library's I think people would have heard of uh appro's 280 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:07,599 mirror for creating witch text editors. It's a sort of up. It's it's 281 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:14,240 by the same guy who created code Mirror m HM, so that it's a 282 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,279 pretty good place to start if you're looking to build UH advanced uh rich text 283 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,160 editor customizable. So yeah, that that will be my pick. Sounds good. 284 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,920 All right, Well, let's go ahead and wrap this up. Thanks 285 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,599 for coming and chatting with me for a half hour or so. It's always 286 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,480 interesting just to see where people are at and get a feel for people who 287 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480 are in parts of the community that I don't get to see as often. 288 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:40,400 Thanks, thanks for having me. Yeah, no problem, we'll wrap this 289 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,440 one up, folks. Until next time. Max out bandwidth for this segment 290 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,640 is provided by cash live, the world's fastest CDN. Deliver your content fast 291 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,680 with cash Live. Visit c A C H E F l Y dot com 292 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:52,359 to learn more.