WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.080 So this was in Colorado. I was like, Oh, the Great Dunes 2 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:06.519 are here, so I'm gonna I'm gonna head down there at night. Everything 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.960 kind of happened when I when I write, it was pretty late, but 4 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:15.560 the Welcoming Center was empty and nobody was there. It was just vacant. 5 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:21.399 It's just me right behind my ear, like squeaking almost and also like shuffling. 6 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:27.519 I turned around and it's just this figure and it's like slowly moving towards 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.519 me, and I can still hear the shuffling and like the squeaking. What 8 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:36.119 frightened me was that, you know, human instinct is interesting where you can 9 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.359 just kind of instantly know what something is. This was where I couldn't. 10 00:00:41.119 --> 00:01:18.719 I couldn't figure out what I was looking at. Aiden. Thanks for joining 11 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.040 me on Bigfoot Crossroads. Man. How are you? I'm good, I'm 12 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.079 good. How are you doing? Pretty good? Man? So you're from 13 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:32.159 Georgia now, but you're originally from California. Yeah. So I moved like 14 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:38.319 three years ago, almost four at this point, to follow my job in 15 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.560 the film industry and doing more creative stuff like photography and all that fun stuff, 16 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:47.120 and Georgia was the place to do it. Pretty much. And my 17 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:52.200 family had moved a year prior and so I ended up following them. And 18 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:57.560 photography is pretty much what led you to your experiences that you contacted me about. 19 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:02.760 Yeah, it did. It was wild because the whole trip so basically 20 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:08.599 what I was moving from from California to Georgia. I decided that I was 21 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:13.159 going to drive the whole way because I didn't really want to pay for shipping 22 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.520 or do anything like that. With all my stuff. I didn't have like 23 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:21.599 too much, and I had a truck at the time, and I just 24 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.400 packed everything in and I was like, you know what, I'm going to 25 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.520 drive the whole way, going to stop us some interesting location. That didn't 26 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:30.719 get to all of them. I got to some and you know, take 27 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:38.680 photos and see what I could pretty much capture. And that's on one of 28 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:44.800 the ventures. That's what led me to an interesting encounter. I guess you 29 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:49.639 could say, was I honestly like to this day, even though I sent 30 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.919 you like the email and you read it, I have no idea what it 31 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:58.240 is. So where were you exactly when this happened. So this was in 32 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:02.159 Colorado, I believe in the Great Dunes, like right beneath it like the 33 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.599 edge part of Colorado, believe that's where it is. And the night before 34 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:17.280 I was like, I hadn't been sleeping in general, but then I had 35 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:23.439 stopped that day in Colorado one of my friends and slept at his place for 36 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.120 a bit and then decided to continue my journey to Georgia. But I was 37 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.919 like, oh, the Great Dunes are here, so I'm gonna I'm gonna 38 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.439 head down there at night, and since it'll be clear, I'm going to 39 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.360 take a picture of like the sand dunes and the stars. And I'm like, 40 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.680 really really beautiful and I could be a great shot. And I still 41 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:46.199 got the photo. But everything kind of happened when I when I arrived at 42 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:52.000 the Welcoming Center outside the Great Dunes, That's that's where everything happened. What 43 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:55.120 time of night was it whenever you got there, I believe it was two 44 00:03:55.159 --> 00:04:00.800 am, so it was it was pretty late. And at this point most 45 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.080 of the people who were camping in the place like would have already been asleep, 46 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.759 right. There were some people like later on that I found, but 47 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:15.680 the Welcoming Center was empty and nobody was there. It was just vacant, 48 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:20.639 and there's like some street lights whatever lamps are up at the welcoming parking lot 49 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:26.680 is where I was, and that's there's like a very you know, that 50 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:31.800 orange what's it called that type of light, But that's that's what time it 51 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.560 happened at, Like around two am is what I'm guessing, because I remember 52 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:41.040 I drove the rest of the night into the morning to get to Oklahoma after 53 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:46.519 the encounter, so it was like two am. The parking lot's completely empty 54 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:53.040 other than you correct, Yeah, it's just me, and it was. 55 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.680 It was weird because pulling up, I didn't expect anything, and I also 56 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.040 had never been there before, so in my mind I was like, oh, 57 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.279 the welcoming centers here. I'm guessing the Great Dunes are right behind it, 58 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:10.600 right. They're not, I found out later. But I drive up 59 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.160 and I stirtle the parking lot and I'm like, oh, maybe there's a 60 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.800 ranger I could talk to, you know, some human, and there wasn't. 61 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.759 And I was like, all right, I was gonna park here, 62 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:24.519 I'm gonna get my camera out. And because of where I'm at, those 63 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.759 are the only the lights are up and the stars are out, but it's 64 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.040 sand and that doesn't really reflect starlight too much. Because there's no moon this 65 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:41.399 night, and it's pitch black. Right behind the Welcoming Center. There's like 66 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.920 you can't see anything at all. And I'm like, all right, well, 67 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.519 maybe I can set my shutter speed, lead the you know, lead 68 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.759 the shutter open for a few seconds, like thirty seconds, ten seconds, 69 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:58.519 and see what I can get. And so I park on the front left 70 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.399 side of the welcoming Center, you know, for this part where there's like 71 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:06.800 this brown like this wooden log fence and then you can hop over the fence 72 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.800 and there's bushes and stuff. So I parked on the on the far left 73 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.000 side, and I leave the car. I turned the car off, I 74 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.120 leave the lights on, and I opened the open my door. I get 75 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.439 out to the left hand and side, and I have my tripod and my 76 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:25.600 camera with me if anybody's curious, I have the Sony A seven three at 77 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.920 the time. And I get out and I'm like, all right, we're 78 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.680 gonna take a picture. This would be fun. And I sat up, 79 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.839 I set my tray pot up, I get everything situated. I set my 80 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.399 shutter of speed. I'm like, all right, cool, let's take the 81 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:45.240 picture. See what I can find. And then all of a sudden right 82 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:50.959 behind my hear like squeaking almost and also like shuffling of shoes. It could 83 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:56.759 have been on gravel, and I wasn't scared yet or anything. I was 84 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.720 like, Oh, the rangers here, cool, because of course it's it's 85 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.439 a national park, and I expect her to be like a ranger or somebody 86 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.399 just like, right, you're at the welcoming center. Yeah, like you 87 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:12.319 know someone should be here, and uh, all right cool. When he 88 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:18.720 say hid this guy? I turn around and I'd say around like fifty feet 89 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:23.839 past my truck. And it's an F one fifty, so you know, 90 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.000 it's tall, it's not lifted or anything, it's less like normal stock. 91 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:33.839 It's right behind my my truck on the opposite side. So since I'm parked 92 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:39.639 parallel in the parking lot, it's on the passenger side. Lie right past 93 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:45.000 the passenger side, uh, back part of it, and it's just this 94 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.920 figure and it's like slowly moving towards me, and I can still hear the 95 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:54.879 shuffling and like this squeaking. But what frightened me the like what frightened me 96 00:07:55.279 --> 00:08:00.720 was that, you you know, human instinct is interesting where you can just 97 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:07.079 kind of instantly know what something is right? This was where I couldn't, 98 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.600 you know, I couldn't figure out what I was looking at. And it 99 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:18.759 looks it looked to me as if a gray dark like very dark gray tracksuit, 100 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:24.279 like some of them were running, almost like the Adidas the ones where 101 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.639 add like those stripes on it, except it was only one stripe and the 102 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:35.960 stripe was a silver like a silver lining almost around the body. And I 103 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.720 couldn't see the legs. It was like right past the truck, so I 104 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.519 didn't really see if it had feet or whatever it was, but the silver 105 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.919 lining kind of just showed like the outline of the body, and it was 106 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.399 wearing a hood. It was like just a silver hood and no base. 107 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:00.320 And I was like, what am I what is I Like? I was 108 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.279 just I was, and it was in shock pretty much because I don't I 109 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.360 don't know that is it doesn't look like anything familiar, And in the back 110 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.080 of my mind, I was like, maybe it's a person. But then 111 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.519 it kept moving towards me, and it was really tall. It was taller 112 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.320 than like the top of my truck, and so I don't know what to 113 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.679 do, and I'm just like also just panicking and like this feeling inside me 114 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.600 was like I have to I'm gonna throw up. I feel sick. I 115 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:31.080 don't know what this is, and I'm like scared, and I've never felt 116 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.320 that way before, but this was new, and I was like, I 117 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:41.240 don't like this. I don't like this at all. And so what I 118 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:46.919 ended up doing was I grabbed my camera in my trypod and I just I 119 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.399 just moved normal speed. I in my mind, I was acting as if 120 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.399 I didn't see this person or whatever this thing was. I was just gonna 121 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.320 like, I'm sitting, you know, I'm getting to my truck. If 122 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.799 it is a ranger, I hope, I really hope it is. I 123 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.200 hope it's something that I know it'll come up to the side of my truck 124 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:11.440 window and maybe talk to me or something. But I can see what it 125 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.120 is first, you know, before it gets to that point. And so 126 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:18.159 I grab my truck out of my camera and I walked to the left side 127 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.320 so that as I moved towards my truck, I just don't see it anymore 128 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.159 because I don't really want to look at it because my eyes were just more 129 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.279 glued than I couldn't really move from looking at it unless my body was moving 130 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:31.919 because I was like, I need to know where it is. I need 131 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:37.360 to know what's going on here. I was like, yo, I don't 132 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.840 know, and so I grab myself and I just get in my truck. 133 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.919 And the keys are in the cognition right because I left it on. I 134 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.279 left the lights on, so I just left the key and you know, 135 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.759 no one's there and the door has already opened, so I just get in. 136 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.679 I just slammed the door and I turned the truck on immediately, like, 137 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.559 I throw my camera in the passenger's side seat, and I don't even 138 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.679 look out that side because I'm like, I don't want it. I don't 139 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:05.200 want to look at the pastor's side if it's just staring at me. And 140 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.039 so I turned the truck on. And in my mind, at this point, 141 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.559 it should have been right behind the truck, so if I looked in 142 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.639 the rear view mirror, it should be there, and so I didn't. 143 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.960 I was like, I'm just not gonna I'm just gonna look at my steering 144 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.559 wheel and maybe if it's a person, it'll come next to the window and 145 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.200 it'll knock on it first before I have to, you know, it'll give 146 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.600 me like Okay, now it's now I know what it is, right, 147 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.200 And so I don't look and I wait. I honestly don't know how long 148 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.919 I waited. It was probably only a few seconds. It felt like a 149 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:43.279 longer. But when you're in situations that you know your adrenaline going you, 150 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.480 you don't really you kind of lose track of time. Right. So I'm 151 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.000 sitting there and I'm like, I'm trying to just erect my brain. I'm 152 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.919 like, what am I supposed to do here? Because I don't know what 153 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.759 it is? And I don't really want to find out what it is if 154 00:11:54.799 --> 00:12:00.639 I don't know what it is. And I eventually I'm just like, all 155 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.399 right, I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the rear room mirror. If it's 156 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.679 there, then I can see it. And if it's not, I'm gonna 157 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:11.679 look outside my my window on my left hand side, striver's side or end 158 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.240 the mirror first and then look see if it's there. And I look at 159 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.480 the rear room mirror and I'm nothing there, all right, And then I'm 160 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.679 like half expecting it to like jump scare me and just like push, you 161 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.000 know, go like slam its space against the window. I'm like, it's 162 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:28.759 gonna jump. It's like something's gonna happen here. And I was like with 163 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.399 my heart and I could like hear it, and like like everything inside me 164 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.759 was just like screaming, except I'm you know, I'm not saying anything, 165 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.200 and I'm just like silent. I'm like, what am I doing? So 166 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.679 I'm expecting that to happen. I look over and nothing's there. Yeah, 167 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:52.559 I look outside the window. After I looked outside the side mirror and nothing's 168 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:56.960 there. And I'm like, yeah, alright, where could this thing be. 169 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.000 So I'm like outside the passer sign, nothing there either. And I 170 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.039 was like, well, if it's behind me, I'm just going to hit 171 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.320 it too bad. And so I just put the truck in reverse and I 172 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.720 just like hit the gas and reverse and turn. I turned the wheel to 173 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:18.320 the right side, so I turned my back comes out right and I don't 174 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.440 hit anything. I'm like, all right, I don't know what that is. 175 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.840 Then, and I put the car and drive and I turned my high 176 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:30.679 beams on and I just like do a circle around the parking lot and no 177 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:37.440 one's there and nothing was ever was ever there as far as I know, 178 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.879 But that's where it ends, I make a circle. I don't I see 179 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.559 nothing like there was There was no car, there was no lights on inside 180 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.279 the building. There was no like, I don't know, golf cart, 181 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.240 I guess, or like a ranger car. There's there's nothing. It was 182 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:54.440 literally just the same as I had arrived, except for that whatever that thing 183 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.879 was and me. It was just me, and so I do the circle 184 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:03.320 around the parking lot and then ended up. I didn't I didn't want to 185 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.240 drive back the way I came yet through the entrance because the entrance is kind 186 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:13.039 of along. It's a long dark road of just desert and trees and bushes. 187 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.399 So just I was like, I'm going to go further into the park 188 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.759 instead and go to where it says campsite and hopefully I can find like some 189 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.600 people, because I kind of need people at this moment. I don't care 190 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.080 context, yeah, because I'm like, I don't I don't know, I 191 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.639 don't know what's going on, and I didn't know what to even think about 192 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.000 it, and so I'm like, I need something that I know is real, 193 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.879 so I know I'm not tripping out. And so I turned left instead 194 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.360 of going right, and I go further into the park, and that's when 195 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:54.879 the whole situation ends. But thinking back and uh, you know, reviewing 196 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.120 it, in my mind, it's just the same thing over and over. 197 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:05.600 It's the way I felt. It's seeing nothing inside the face area and seeing 198 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:11.080 this silver jumpsuit looking thing right behind my trug. And I'm not want like 199 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:16.399 I'm personally, I don't always believe in the paranormal. I know it's there. 200 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.000 I know it's just if it does, right, But I'm not like 201 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:26.000 looking for an excuse to have a story about something right right. Never, 202 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.279 Yeah, I never, I can never have that. I'm like, if 203 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.799 it happens, great, cool, if something, if you know, if 204 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.360 I see bigfoot in the horse, if I see something, if whatever happens, 205 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:41.080 I'm like open, but I'm not looking. And that's what like frightened 206 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:46.000 me. I think mostly was that I wasn't like ready for this situation to 207 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.320 happen. It wasn't like prepared. I wasn't thinking about it. It was 208 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.639 just it just happened. You weren't looking, but it found you. Yeah, 209 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:58.480 exactly. Yeah, And I have no explanation still to like what I 210 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.000 could have been seeing or saw or and conored I can go further into the 211 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.120 night of like what happened, but I mean, nothing else happened. I 212 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.559 found the Great Dunes, took the picture. There were some people around camping. 213 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.480 My eye kept running, you know, swerving back to the welcoming Center 214 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:19.720 where I had just been like some some ways away across the dunes, you 215 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:23.720 know, because the lights are on. I like the lamps, and you 216 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.360 know, I was always occasionally look back and see if anybody was there. 217 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.440 Nobody was over there, but took the picture, stayed there for like an 218 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:37.159 hour, and ended up driving through the night to Oklahoma because I was like, 219 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:44.240 I'm not stopping when it's dark, thank you, I'm not doing that. 220 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:49.559 So okay, question time, You're parked in this parking lot area at 221 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:55.480 the welcome center. Yep. How large of a parking lot is it? 222 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.440 Is it? Is it a big parking lot or small? I'd say it 223 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:04.720 has like one to three four lanes with a center median. So you got 224 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.119 the front one, the front lane of cars, Like maybe it can fit 225 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:14.319 like fifteen cars. I'd say, I'm sure that people could like find pictures 226 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.279 of it on Google if they wanted to see it. Oh yeah, I 227 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:18.680 mean I could pull it up right now and tell you exactly how my there 228 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.480 are, but I'm off the top of my head. The front, you 229 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.880 know, fifteen fifteen fifteen, maybe like ten at the at the back is 230 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:32.039 it kind of it's almost like an oval looking shape. It's not. It's 231 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:33.880 like a fairly it's like as big as it's a little bit bigger than like 232 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.640 the Welcoming Center. The Welcoming Center isn't that big. It's like it's one 233 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:44.400 story and it's like maybe five rooms across, I'd say, so it's like 234 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.920 not that big. And then like the parking lot kind of wraps like in 235 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.880 an oval in front of it, and then has the entrance to go out 236 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:55.160 to the exit and then into the park pretty much. And then are there 237 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.440 like trees and stuff lining the outside of the parking lot or what so the 238 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:07.279 outside on the right side, I believe there's like some giant bushes. It's 239 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:10.799 the deserts. There's not like too many trees. I know. The middle 240 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.279 median has like some small bushes, like little brush and like grass looking things. 241 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:21.319 And then where I was there was grass, like the brown grass kind 242 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:29.079 of like the tall on the tall graph. And then the log fence that's 243 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:33.000 like two logs high. I'd say, you know, it's not that big. 244 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:34.960 It's kind of like it's like the fence for aesthetic, but it doesn't 245 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:41.279 actually act as a fence, right, Yeah, And whenever you first saw 246 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.400 this thing, how far away from your truck would you guess it was from 247 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:51.039 my truck? I thought it was around fifty feet. I'm guessing it was 248 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.720 just past my truck, like maybe three car lengths. And how far were 249 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.559 you on the opposite side of the truck. I was like probably one car 250 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.480 lengthy, one to two crawlings the way, pretty close, pretty close to 251 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.519 the point where I was like, I knew I was going to be it 252 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:11.559 to my truck if I just started moving right away. That's what I did. 253 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.880 So I wasn't. I wasn't fun. So the lights are on and 254 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.000 everything, so I know, you say it didn't have a face, but 255 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.839 like you got a pretty good look at this thing and the lights, I 256 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:29.160 assume, yeah, kind of right, so it didn't. It looked like 257 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:34.400 it was hitting a light, you know how like biker vests have a reflective 258 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.680 river on them. Yeah, and when it's not being reflected, it kind 259 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:44.839 of looked gray but kind of sparkly. Yeah, that's what those lighting looks 260 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.119 like. It wasn't glowing, but it looked reflective, so the lights weren't 261 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:55.119 even like there, I'm guessing like there was no light hitting it, although 262 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.480 on the right side of it, if you know, I could see it 263 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:04.359 obviously, so I'm assuming there was some light from the lamps out there. 264 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.160 But it was like it wasn't like it wasn't illuminated because it's still dark. 265 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.160 You look around and everything's pitch black, and it's like not that much brighter 266 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.880 in the parking lot because there's like two lamps up right. So it was 267 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.440 like that where it was like, oh, here it is, but you 268 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:27.799 can't really you can't really see it too much. It just looked like a 269 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:33.160 figure human. It looks humanoid ish, right because it has like arms and 270 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.079 a body and a hood, but then no faith in the middle of it. 271 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.200 And that's it was like, you just it looks like a void, 272 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:48.640 but it looks like the surrounding area. It just looks pitch black. What 273 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.440 did the suit look like? I mean, I know, you dark in 274 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.440 color, like a track suit, but typically I mean clothes have like zippers 275 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:02.640 and labels and things like that. Did you notice anything, No, labels, 276 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:07.759 no zippers. It just looked it looked maybe it could have had like 277 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:15.400 a zip up hoodie is what it may have looked like, judging by how 278 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:21.079 like the whole body frame of it was. But I didn't see arms swinging, 279 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.359 so I didn't see hands. I just saw the figure moving towards me, 280 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.200 like almost as if it was like not floating, but like I could 281 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:33.480 see it was moving, and it was just it was just gray. I 282 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.240 could see like the where it's arms were next to it. You could see 283 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.519 it like it had arms. It looks like it was wearing like almost like 284 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:45.119 a hoodie. There's no face inside. It was just just pitch black, 285 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.799 and it was tall, and it was tall, and so it was like 286 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.319 just moving towards me. And you know, however long I looked at it, 287 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.200 I then made a decision to just move because I was like, I 288 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.440 don't know what I'm looking at, and I'm not just gonna stand here and 289 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.119 wait for it to catch up to me, because it was moving towards me. 290 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.200 I mean, you mentioned, you know earlier, about how the human 291 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:14.920 mind recognizes things just instantly whenever we see them, and how one of the 292 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.920 most frightening aspects was your mind not being able to understand, like what am 293 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:25.319 I looking at? I would think that, let's just say, it's a 294 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.440 tall guy in a tracksuit and his face is kind of shadowed because he's got 295 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.839 his hood up. Yeah, I would assume that your brain would register that 296 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.319 as being exactly that. Yeah. I would have been like, oh, 297 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.799 it's a human walking to Yeah, it's a tall guy in the tracksuit. 298 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:44.440 Yeah, because I mean that's where my brain immediately went to describe it, 299 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:51.200 right, And that's how I've described it till what was it Like last year 300 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:52.880 over the summer, I went camping and they're like, you have any stories, 301 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.720 and I was like, well, I have one there, you know, 302 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.720 that's my story. To describe it, I need to tracks you because 303 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:06.160 it was great with a silver you know, slightly left silver outline of it. 304 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.200 But it was just tall and moving towards me. And it wasn't acting 305 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.839 like a human would have acted, you know, because if I'm in that 306 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:18.480 situation and I'm the person, I'm like, hey, yea, yeah, 307 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:22.720 I would have said something and not just disappeared at two am, especially at 308 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:29.680 you know two am isolated parking lot, Yeah, where no one's at some 309 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:32.400 guy pulls up in a truck and gets out with the camera and stuff. 310 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.519 I mean, yeah, I mean that's what you know. My first instinct 311 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.119 would have been, if it's a person, they're probably interested in what I'm 312 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.880 doing, yeah, taking a picture. But it didn't do anything. It 313 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:48.799 just kept walking or moving towards the truck, towards me, as if it's 314 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.160 going to like come around the truck and then come towards me. But I 315 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.920 was like, I'm not gonna sit around for that to happen because I don't 316 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.519 know what I'm even looking at. So I know you have no way of 317 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:03.200 knowing this, but in your estimation, you get in your truck, you're 318 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:08.640 looking around kind of wanting to see it, but not wanting to see it. 319 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.920 Yeah, I mean, did it have time to get out of there 320 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.759 and go hide somewhere or get out of you from you could? Is that 321 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:22.359 a possibility? So the bushes and trees are really small. It's like there's 322 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:26.720 like a one giant bush, but it's like branches. It's like those branch 323 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.880 bushes. So I would have seen it and I would have heard it too, 324 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.359 like shuffle a a if it was a person and you can't escape headlights. 325 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.000 I would assume, Yeah, I can't escape headlights and the lights are 326 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:42.680 on in the truck. It's not like I didn't have It wasn't like pitch 327 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.079 black everywhere. It was just these two lights in the parking lot and then 328 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:52.640 my truck lights. And around where I am because I'm on the far left 329 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.559 side, there's just bushes, and then the front of the building which kind 330 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:02.880 of wraps around like wraps around the part of the front part of the parking 331 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:07.240 lot, and then behind like you know, a way past the building are 332 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.119 like just like some trees and bushes and just like pitch blackness into like the 333 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.079 night. But it wouldn't have to go past you to get to that, 334 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.400 like into the headlights or whatever. Yeah, it would have to it would 335 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:23.440 either have to run past me or it would have had to just run straight 336 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.079 back where it came from on the right side of the truck. And you 337 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:33.039 know, but like across the whole parking lot to hide behind a bush that 338 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:38.359 it couldn't hide behind that you really couldn't hide behind with that tall And yeah, 339 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:45.400 so I mean I don't personally, I just don't see that being a 340 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.039 liable option, only because like there wasn't much around. It's kind of like 341 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:56.720 it's flatsh with like a couple of trees around the area. But it's not 342 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.400 like a dense force like out here in Georgia, where like to seconds, 343 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.039 I'm i to go missing, right, It's it's almost like a plane almost 344 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:11.839 whenever you first got out of the vehicle, any impending doom fillings or anything 345 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.799 like that before you saw it. No, No, not really, no, 346 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.039 not at all. Actually I had no I was like, I'm gonna 347 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.880 go take a picture, and that was really the only thing in my mind, 348 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.680 you know. I mean, it's dark and you can't see anything, 349 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.880 so you're always like hopefully nothing shows up, like like an animal or like 350 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.480 an air or like a mountain lion or something. I don't know what's out 351 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.039 there. I don't know any animals in Colorado. I know it's Colorado. 352 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.079 It's wild. So there was no feeling though. The only the only time 353 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.000 I actually had that feeling was the I think the previous night I was in 354 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:51.200 the arches. I think that was after No, I think it was before 355 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.279 I went to the arches and try to get a picture. No, it 356 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:56.200 was before, yeah, because I tried to get a picture, and it 357 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:02.000 was foggy, but though you know, nothing happened there. I did the 358 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.200 same thing, got out of the car, try to take a picture, 359 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.640 foggy, I can't, got back in and left. The only thing I 360 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.160 had there was kind of like, ooh, this is kind of creepy because 361 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.759 the arches are giant rocks, so you have the night darkness and then you 362 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.160 have the rock darkness, which is like a contrast. It's way darker than 363 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.000 it is like the night sky, And so that was like, oh, 364 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.519 that's kind of creepy because you can just see these giant looming almost like massive 365 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.000 structures, but they're just giant rocks. So that's kind of creepy, you 366 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.720 know, looking into like more darkness apart from the darkness you're already looking at. 367 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.559 But that's it, you know. But when I got to the Great 368 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.240 Dunes, I had in mind already. I was like, I'm gonna go 369 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.000 take a picture of the stars and the sand. Dudes. I didn't have 370 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.279 any like inclination of like a like an impending doom feeling or or anything like 371 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.920 that. On the way up, you know, there's like little posters they 372 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.960 glow up. It's like a light bulb almost like crystas lights put us in 373 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:03.759 the same in the shape of a flying saucer. Okay, there is that, 374 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:08.000 Yeah, there's that. On the way up at someone's property iseline. 375 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.720 So it was like, look an alien. But it was like, on 376 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.599 my buying around, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna go find an alien tonight. 377 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.039 I didn't mind. I was like, I'm gonna take a picture of 378 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.200 stars. You know, I didn't have any any idea that I would have 379 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.839 run into something. So let me tell you a story. It's about two 380 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.559 o'clock in the morning. Like I'm not I'm not even I'm not even joking 381 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.799 for real. Same time. Yeah, a friend of mine had come over 382 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:44.880 to my house at this point in time in my life. My room was 383 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.319 at the back of the house. The backyards right outside the room. The 384 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:55.240 room has like three double windows on the back wall that faced the backyard, 385 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.000 and there's a chain link fence with a very old, squeaky gait right there 386 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:07.119 by the house. So oftentimes my friends would just come to the back and 387 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.759 come in through the gate and knock on my window and you can hear the 388 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:12.799 gate like as soon as they hit the handle on the gate. You can 389 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.240 hear it. This friend of mine had come over. We're sitting in that 390 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.039 back room. It's getting kind of late, about two o'clock. All I 391 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.839 remember for certain. It was after one point thirty. I know that, 392 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.000 so I'm guessing that it was around two eight. We go out of my 393 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:37.079 house through the front door. His car is parked right there in the driveway, 394 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:45.480 and at my house, my driveway and the neighbor's driveway are side by 395 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.160 side to the point where it just forms like a double wide driveway going from 396 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.039 the street all the way to the back of the house. His car is 397 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.240 in my driveway, but there's like an empty driveway next to it. And 398 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:02.759 then my vehicle was parked in front of his, and I was driving a 399 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:11.319 Ford Explorer at the time. So we're standing behind his vehicle in the driveway 400 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:18.200 just talking before he leaves, and we hear the gate at the back of 401 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.839 the house. Well, I'm thinking it must be one of my friends coming 402 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:27.680 over and they went around back and we just missed one another. So I 403 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.000 start looking around. I don't see any cars, you know, none of 404 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.519 my friends vehicles are out there. Yeah, And so we're kind of like 405 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:41.839 looking at one another and looking down the driveway, and the driveway kind of 406 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.680 widens behind the house a little bit, so you can't see the gate from 407 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.039 the driveway at the front of the house. So we're waiting for whoever it 408 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.480 is to come walking out from around the corner at the back of the house. 409 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.079 At the end of the driveway on the neighbors side, on the front 410 00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:03.160 of their garage is one of those orange outdoor lights like you were talking about, 411 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:08.079 So there is that light. A few seconds go by, here comes 412 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:17.279 somebody walking out from behind the house, just like we expected. My driveway 413 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:25.880 is maybe fifty feet long, sixty feet long from where we are, so 414 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.519 not real far, but it's not real close. And I don't recognize the 415 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.079 person. I can't just instantly recognize them. And they walk to a position 416 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:44.279 where they're now my vehicle and his vehicle are now blocking the view of them. 417 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.279 We can't see them anymore. That's interesting. Yeah, So we start 418 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.400 walking back over into my front yard to change the angle where we could see 419 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:59.039 them. Yeah, and we don't see them. They're not there, and 420 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.359 I'm just like, what's going on. I'm pretty much in the middle of 421 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.559 my front yard at this point, and for some reason, I don't know 422 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.880 why didn't think to like yell out or anything. Maybe it's because it was 423 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.559 so late. You know, we work our way back over towards the driveway. 424 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.720 Now we're going to change our angle on the other side, you know, 425 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.039 to see who this is. As soon as we walk over back basically 426 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:30.119 to where we had been, you can see them, but they're standing in 427 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:37.079 the shadow next to my neighbor's house, almost like they're hiding. Yeah, 428 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:45.119 we kind of like step out into the neighbor's driveway, still at the back 429 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.240 of his vehicle, but even with it, and now we're in the other 430 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:53.920 driveway and they start walking down the driveway towards us, directly towards us. 431 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:59.720 Here's something else to say, just for a side note, he and I 432 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.480 are both really big dudes, not small at all. Intimidating for sure. 433 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.920 I do not recognize this person at all. What I can tell you from 434 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.759 what I can see because they're backlit by this light at my neighbor's house at 435 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:22.160 this point. So the silhouette, Yeah, the silhouette is like a person 436 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:30.599 much smaller than me, but looks like an adult male long hair. I 437 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:36.200 can tell that they have long hair. It looks like some sort of jacket 438 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:44.160 and pants, pretty uniform. I was thinking, maybe it's a jean jacket 439 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:49.920 and jeans or something. And they're just like walking right towards us, and 440 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:55.440 he and I are standing there, and this is the weird part. Neither 441 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.400 one of us could move. Neither one of us could talk, We couldn't 442 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.680 move, we couldn't do anything. We were just standing there frozen. And 443 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.360 this person made their way straight to us. And right before they got to 444 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.960 us, they turned to their left, which was our right, and changed 445 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:21.599 their angle where they walked between us and the corner of my neighbor's house and 446 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:28.519 just cut straight across my neighbor's front yard. They walked through the yard to 447 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.679 the sidewalk and then walked down the sidewalk. We're watching them this whole time. 448 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.079 They're just casually strolling. They never say anything, they never stop. 449 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.800 They go all the way to the end of the street. They turn left. 450 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:50.440 We can still see them walking. As soon as we lost view of 451 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.800 them as they like went behind the house at the end of the street, 452 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.960 we snap out of it and we're both just like, what the hell. 453 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:06.320 Hell, here's the thing. I will swear on anything. It did not 454 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:14.679 have a face. It was just empty blackness. At its closest point, 455 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:22.440 it was I'm getting goosebumps right now, man, I used to go out 456 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.119 and look for Bigfoot. Yeah, this is the scariest thing that's ever happened 457 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.920 to me in my life. This thing did not have a face. It 458 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.079 was just empty darkness. It was like there was a silhouette. It was 459 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.719 three dimensional. I could tell it had long hair, I could tell it 460 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.639 had clothing on, but it was all just black. There was nothing there. 461 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.400 Yeah, my friend saw the exact same thing. He still won't talk 462 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.440 about it really, Like he doesn't like to talk about it. I mean, 463 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.719 like I could. I haven't talked to this guy in probably five years. 464 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:58.079 I could call him up and be like, hey, man, you 465 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.840 remember that thing in the driveway, and he'd be like, you know, 466 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.960 shut the f up, man, don't talk about it. Yeah. Whenever 467 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.440 we snapped out of it, you know, I'm like, what the hell 468 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:08.599 was that? And he's like, it didn't have a face, Like that 469 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.840 was the first thing he said. Oh yeah, I immediately go inside the 470 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.519 house, call nine to one one and I called the cops. Man, 471 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.679 I didn't know I was shook. I was absolutely shook. I said, 472 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:30.000 there was a guy in my backyard. Yeah, they send the cops. 473 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.719 I tell them, you know, we tell them the story. We don't 474 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.599 tell them that it didn't have a face or anything. We just say this 475 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.159 person. We didn't We couldn't really make any details out. They walked down 476 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.840 to the industry. They turned left, the cops went drove around. He 477 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.559 and I got in his vehicle, drove around, never saw anybody, couldn't 478 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.079 find anybody. I have no idea what it was, but I will swear 479 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.360 until I die it did not have a face. It was just darkness, 480 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.599 just a black void where its face should have been. It's interesting that you 481 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:12.960 say you couldn't move and that, because that's how I felt like the moment. 482 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.679 I thought. I don't know if it was the same for you, 483 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.679 if it like took you a little longer, But it was like I instantly 484 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.840 looked registered it wasn't a person, and then it couldn't move. Yeah, 485 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.519 And it felt like I was forcing you know how you get like sleep paralysis. 486 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.639 Yeah, yeah, that's what it felt like. And I had to 487 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:36.199 force myself out of it to move towards my truck. But for you, 488 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.639 like what was that feeling of like you couldn't move and did you get sick? 489 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:45.199 Almost, So, whenever I first saw it step out from behind my 490 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.760 house and you know, kind of walk to where it was hidden from view, 491 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.199 at that point, it was like just kind of that ice cold vein 492 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.039 feeling. And then I was like, who is that? You know, 493 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:05.880 my mind is trying to process again what I'm seeing, and like, who 494 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.719 is this? Who is at my house? Because like I heard the gate. 495 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.960 I know we both heard the gate, so yeah, so it's like 496 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:17.239 physical right, And then whenever we saw it again and it's like leaned over 497 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.719 against the house as soon as it stepped out of the shadow and started walking 498 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.119 towards us, is when we both just froze, just could not move. 499 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:36.119 Because in any normal situation, he and I, especially him, would have 500 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.480 been like, hey, who are you you know? Yeah, I mean, 501 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.199 especially if you're that build. Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. 502 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:50.679 I have no explanation for our behavior, for its behavior, what it looked 503 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.760 like, anything. And here's the other weird thing about it. Like I 504 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.679 said, we heard the gate, we heard it come out of the backyard, 505 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:00.519 but we had been in my room the entire time, and we never 506 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:06.719 heard the gate where it went into the backyard. Oh so it disappeared or 507 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:15.199 I have no idea. I have no clue. It's funny that you even 508 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.039 say it had like a jean jacket on, because it's great. Still. 509 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.800 Yeah, yeah, I couldn't make out like any colors or anything. Did 510 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.559 I have like a silver lining around it? Uh? Not that I remember. 511 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.840 Okay, it was kind of like, I mean, there was just 512 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.480 like the outline of it because of the light that was behind it at the 513 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:43.960 end of the driveway. Yeah, but still at that I mean, anybody 514 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.880 else walking down my driveway, I would like it wasn't that dark. But 515 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.400 this thing was dark, like a shadow like darker than its surroundings. It 516 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:58.360 did, Yeah, because that's what the like to me. I could tell 517 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.800 that the suit it was wearing, it was obviously not pitch black. It 518 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.840 was just like there was no there were I didn't see hands, didn't see 519 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.840 feet, and there was no face. You know. I looked it was 520 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.239 looking straight at me, and that's the thing. I was looking straight at 521 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:17.400 me. So if there was texture, you know, as someone was wearing 522 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.920 a mask, I could have seen that. Because it's twenty twenty one, 523 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.679 I believe at this point, and some people are still wearing masks at the 524 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.760 time. No mask, no full face thing. It was just nothing, 525 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.360 almost as if you're looking into the darkness that I heard that's around me. 526 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:42.480 Anyway, when you mentioned where you moved the angle right of the truck or 527 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.079 the car, I did the same thing because that's where. That's why I 528 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.559 moved left to like change the angle, and that's when it wasn't there anymore. 529 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.960 Yeah, I mean, I've tried to figure this one out for years, 530 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:04.920 and the reason being is obviously I know there's going to be people listening 531 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.239 to this episode and I get it. Oh, so it was just like 532 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.880 some guy in your backyard, you know it was dark out or something. 533 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.599 No, if that were it, I wouldn't be telling you about it right 534 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:21.320 now. Well, you also have like a feeling, and that's you know, 535 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.559 people during the camping trip ask me the same thing, like, it's 536 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.360 sure wasn't just a guy. I was like, I don't think I would 537 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.159 be reacting the same way if it was a guy, right, And I 538 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.440 probably would have said something. On a personable person, I don't say nothing, 539 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.119 and I don't get scared off of seeing somebody well me And then another 540 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.239 guy who, yeah, you're with somebody too. I mean, my friend 541 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.639 is very confrontational. He likes to get into fights. And you know, 542 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.679 in a normal scenario, this is somebody that doesn't belong on my property, 543 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.960 that's all my property, and has just gotten busted. You know, like 544 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.840 we're gonna beat the crap out of this guy. You know, like, 545 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.599 who are you? Why are you in my backyard? Man? What are 546 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.119 you doing here? Yeah? Honestly, and we were both just like frozen, 547 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.119 couldn't move, could not move. It wasn't even a choice. And 548 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:23.480 it wasn't like frozen with fear as much as it was just almost just like 549 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.000 in a zombie state, just like watching it, nothing even registering, just 550 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.679 watching it walk by, just standing there and watching this thing walk by. 551 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.880 And then after it got out of sight where we couldn't see it anymore. 552 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:44.960 And keep in mind, it's walked it's at least six houses to the end 553 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:50.239 of the block. It's walked right by us within five feet. It's walked 554 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.960 through this front yard, it's walked down the sidewalk, it's turned left, 555 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:59.079 it's walked past that house. After it goes out of you, we instantly 556 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.800 snap out of it. And start freaking out. Not while it's walking away, 557 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.119 not whenever it's five houses away. Well, also is it right next 558 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.559 to you too? Yeah, And the entire time, even with it walking 559 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.880 down the sidewalk and all of that, still can't see anything, can't make 560 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.679 out a face, nothing. Granted it's back was turned to us and everything, 561 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.599 but even as it's walking down the side, you know, at the 562 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:29.760 end of the street, there's no like profile to it or anything. Yeah, 563 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.440 that's wild. Yeah, Like even I don't even know to think about 564 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.119 that one, I mean yours. I would like to say, you saw 565 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:44.000 an alien, you know, wearing a space suit at the dunes in Colorado? 566 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.800 Mine shadow, man, I don't know. Are they the same thing? 567 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.800 I don't know. Do they come from the same place, No clue. 568 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.400 All I know is you saw something without a face and I saw something 569 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.280 without a face. Yeah, I mean it could have been lead the same 570 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:07.000 hype of something and very similar reactions in both cases, I would say, 571 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.199 Yeah, very similar, I'd say. And that's the thing is, like 572 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.920 I was kind of hoping you have like some kind of exclamation, but well, 573 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.239 because I was, like, I've been looking for one for so long 574 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:23.480 and I still just even just thinking about it. Whenever I'm out alone by 575 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.480 myself at night, it's just like, oh, maybe i'll see it again. 576 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.519 I don't know. I'm hoping. I don't obviously, but it's just 577 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.440 like always there. So the only thing that comes to mind. And it's 578 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:44.599 not the same place exactly, I don't know exactly where it is. So 579 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:52.039 I'm from Oklahoma and out towards the Panhandle, which is the general area you 580 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:58.760 were at. There's a place here in Oklahoma where all kinds of like crazy 581 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:04.960 weird stuff happens, the Shamans Triangle or something weird like that. It's got 582 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.199 some crazy name, and it's just like it's just like a weird place where 583 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:17.360 people see UFOs and weird things and weird stuff happens all the time. So 584 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:24.199 I'm wondering if maybe something connected to just that geographic region of the United States 585 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.039 or something. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I 586 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:34.440 haven't looked into anything regarding the Great Dudes. I did very briefly before I 587 00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.800 emailed you. I was like, maybe this is like a normal thing. 588 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.519 I didn't find too much. The only thing I did find was like aliens. 589 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.960 But it's like I haven't seen anything. I don't know, and I 590 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:52.639 part of me wants to go back and like figure out what it is or 591 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.519 maybe encounter it again. I appreciate you coming on here and sharing it. 592 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.840 Man, I wish I had some aner is for you. It's okay, 593 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:07.239 I'll keep looking. Yeah. Do you got a place for people to check 594 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.280 out your photographs or anything? Yeah? I just have an Instagram. It's 595 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:17.519 aiden r D L so a I D E N r D and L laughter 596 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.599 and then I should pop up on Instagram. Yeah, and thank you for 597 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:22.760 having us has fun, Yeah, of course, man,