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So this was in Colorado. I
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are here, so I'm gonna I'm
gonna head down there at night. Everything

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kind of happened when I when I
write, it was pretty late, but

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the Welcoming Center was empty and nobody
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It's just me right behind my ear, like squeaking almost and also like shuffling.

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I turned around and it's just this
figure and it's like slowly moving towards

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me, and I can still hear
the shuffling and like the squeaking. What

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frightened me was that, you know, human instinct is interesting where you can

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just kind of instantly know what something
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I couldn't figure out what I was
looking at. Aiden. Thanks for joining

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me on Bigfoot Crossroads. Man.
How are you? I'm good, I'm

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good. How are you doing?
Pretty good? Man? So you're from

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Georgia now, but you're originally from
California. Yeah. So I moved like

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three years ago, almost four at
this point, to follow my job in

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the film industry and doing more creative
stuff like photography and all that fun stuff,

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and Georgia was the place to do
it. Pretty much. And my

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family had moved a year prior and
so I ended up following them. And

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photography is pretty much what led you
to your experiences that you contacted me about.

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Yeah, it did. It was
wild because the whole trip so basically

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what I was moving from from California
to Georgia. I decided that I was

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going to drive the whole way because
I didn't really want to pay for shipping

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or do anything like that. With
all my stuff. I didn't have like

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too much, and I had a
truck at the time, and I just

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packed everything in and I was like, you know what, I'm going to

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drive the whole way, going to
stop us some interesting location. That didn't

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get to all of them. I
got to some and you know, take

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photos and see what I could pretty
much capture. And that's on one of

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the ventures. That's what led me
to an interesting encounter. I guess you

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could say, was I honestly like
to this day, even though I sent

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you like the email and you read
it, I have no idea what it

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is. So where were you exactly
when this happened. So this was in

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Colorado, I believe in the Great
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edge part of Colorado, believe that's
where it is. And the night before

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I was like, I hadn't been
sleeping in general, but then I had

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stopped that day in Colorado one of
my friends and slept at his place for

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a bit and then decided to continue
my journey to Georgia. But I was

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like, oh, the Great Dunes
are here, so I'm gonna I'm gonna

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head down there at night, and
since it'll be clear, I'm going to

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take a picture of like the sand
dunes and the stars. And I'm like,

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really really beautiful and I could be
a great shot. And I still

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got the photo. But everything kind
of happened when I when I arrived at

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the Welcoming Center outside the Great Dunes, That's that's where everything happened. What

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time of night was it whenever you
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am, so it was it was
pretty late. And at this point most

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of the people who were camping in
the place like would have already been asleep,

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right. There were some people like
later on that I found, but

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the Welcoming Center was empty and nobody
was there. It was just vacant,

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and there's like some street lights whatever
lamps are up at the welcoming parking lot

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is where I was, and that's
there's like a very you know, that

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orange what's it called that type of
light, But that's that's what time it

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happened at, Like around two am
is what I'm guessing, because I remember

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I drove the rest of the night
into the morning to get to Oklahoma after

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the encounter, so it was like
two am. The parking lot's completely empty

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other than you correct, Yeah,
it's just me, and it was.

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It was weird because pulling up,
I didn't expect anything, and I also

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had never been there before, so
in my mind I was like, oh,

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the welcoming centers here. I'm guessing
the Great Dunes are right behind it,

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right. They're not, I found
out later. But I drive up

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and I stirtle the parking lot and
I'm like, oh, maybe there's a

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ranger I could talk to, you
know, some human, and there wasn't.

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And I was like, all right, I was gonna park here,

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I'm gonna get my camera out.
And because of where I'm at, those

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are the only the lights are up
and the stars are out, but it's

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sand and that doesn't really reflect starlight
too much. Because there's no moon this

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night, and it's pitch black.
Right behind the Welcoming Center. There's like

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you can't see anything at all.
And I'm like, all right, well,

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maybe I can set my shutter speed, lead the you know, lead

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the shutter open for a few seconds, like thirty seconds, ten seconds,

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and see what I can get.
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side of the welcoming Center, you
know, for this part where there's like

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this brown like this wooden log fence
and then you can hop over the fence

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and there's bushes and stuff. So
I parked on the on the far left

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side, and I leave the car. I turned the car off, I

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leave the lights on, and I
opened the open my door. I get

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out to the left hand and side, and I have my tripod and my

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camera with me if anybody's curious,
I have the Sony A seven three at

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the time. And I get out
and I'm like, all right, we're

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gonna take a picture. This would
be fun. And I sat up,

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I set my tray pot up,
I get everything situated. I set my

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shutter of speed. I'm like,
all right, cool, let's take the

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picture. See what I can find. And then all of a sudden right

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behind my hear like squeaking almost and
also like shuffling of shoes. It could

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have been on gravel, and I
wasn't scared yet or anything. I was

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like, Oh, the rangers here, cool, because of course it's it's

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a national park, and I expect
her to be like a ranger or somebody

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just like, right, you're at
the welcoming center. Yeah, like you

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know someone should be here, and
uh, all right cool. When he

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say hid this guy? I turn
around and I'd say around like fifty feet

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past my truck. And it's an
F one fifty, so you know,

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it's tall, it's not lifted or
anything, it's less like normal stock.

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It's right behind my my truck on
the opposite side. So since I'm parked

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parallel in the parking lot, it's
on the passenger side. Lie right past

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the passenger side, uh, back
part of it, and it's just this

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figure and it's like slowly moving towards
me, and I can still hear the

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shuffling and like this squeaking. But
what frightened me the like what frightened me

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was that, you you know,
human instinct is interesting where you can just

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kind of instantly know what something is
right? This was where I couldn't,

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you know, I couldn't figure out
what I was looking at. And it

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looks it looked to me as if
a gray dark like very dark gray tracksuit,

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like some of them were running,
almost like the Adidas the ones where

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add like those stripes on it,
except it was only one stripe and the

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stripe was a silver like a silver
lining almost around the body. And I

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couldn't see the legs. It was
like right past the truck, so I

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didn't really see if it had feet
or whatever it was, but the silver

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lining kind of just showed like the
outline of the body, and it was

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wearing a hood. It was like
just a silver hood and no base.

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And I was like, what am
I what is I Like? I was

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just I was, and it was
in shock pretty much because I don't I

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don't know that is it doesn't look
like anything familiar, And in the back

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of my mind, I was like, maybe it's a person. But then

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it kept moving towards me, and
it was really tall. It was taller

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than like the top of my truck, and so I don't know what to

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do, and I'm just like also
just panicking and like this feeling inside me

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was like I have to I'm gonna
throw up. I feel sick. I

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don't know what this is, and
I'm like scared, and I've never felt

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that way before, but this was
new, and I was like, I

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don't like this. I don't like
this at all. And so what I

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ended up doing was I grabbed my
camera in my trypod and I just I

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just moved normal speed. I in
my mind, I was acting as if

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I didn't see this person or whatever
this thing was. I was just gonna

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like, I'm sitting, you know, I'm getting to my truck. If

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it is a ranger, I hope, I really hope it is. I

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hope it's something that I know it'll
come up to the side of my truck

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window and maybe talk to me or
something. But I can see what it

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is first, you know, before
it gets to that point. And so

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I grab my truck out of my
camera and I walked to the left side

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so that as I moved towards my
truck, I just don't see it anymore

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because I don't really want to look
at it because my eyes were just more

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glued than I couldn't really move from
looking at it unless my body was moving

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because I was like, I need
to know where it is. I need

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to know what's going on here.
I was like, yo, I don't

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know, and so I grab myself
and I just get in my truck.

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And the keys are in the cognition
right because I left it on. I

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left the lights on, so I
just left the key and you know,

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no one's there and the door has
already opened, so I just get in.

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I just slammed the door and I
turned the truck on immediately, like,

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I throw my camera in the passenger's
side seat, and I don't even

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look out that side because I'm like, I don't want it. I don't

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want to look at the pastor's side
if it's just staring at me. And

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so I turned the truck on.
And in my mind, at this point,

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it should have been right behind the
truck, so if I looked in

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the rear view mirror, it should
be there, and so I didn't.

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I was like, I'm just not
gonna I'm just gonna look at my steering

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wheel and maybe if it's a person, it'll come next to the window and

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it'll knock on it first before I
have to, you know, it'll give

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me like Okay, now it's now
I know what it is, right,

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And so I don't look and I
wait. I honestly don't know how long

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I waited. It was probably only
a few seconds. It felt like a

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longer. But when you're in situations
that you know your adrenaline going you,

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you don't really you kind of lose
track of time. Right. So I'm

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sitting there and I'm like, I'm
trying to just erect my brain. I'm

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like, what am I supposed to
do here? Because I don't know what

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it is? And I don't really
want to find out what it is if

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I don't know what it is.
And I eventually I'm just like, all

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right, I'm gonna I'm gonna look
at the rear room mirror. If it's

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there, then I can see it. And if it's not, I'm gonna

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look outside my my window on my
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the mirror first and then look see
if it's there. And I look at

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the rear room mirror and I'm nothing
there, all right, And then I'm

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like half expecting it to like jump
scare me and just like push, you

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know, go like slam its space
against the window. I'm like, it's

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gonna jump. It's like something's gonna
happen here. And I was like with

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my heart and I could like hear
it, and like like everything inside me

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was just like screaming, except I'm
you know, I'm not saying anything,

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and I'm just like silent. I'm
like, what am I doing? So

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I'm expecting that to happen. I
look over and nothing's there. Yeah,

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I look outside the window. After
I looked outside the side mirror and nothing's

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there. And I'm like, yeah, alright, where could this thing be.

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was like, well, if it's
behind me, I'm just going to hit

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it too bad. And so I
just put the truck in reverse and I

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just like hit the gas and reverse
and turn. I turned the wheel to

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the right side, so I turned
my back comes out right and I don't

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hit anything. I'm like, all
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Then, and I put the car
and drive and I turned my high

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beams on and I just like do
a circle around the parking lot and no

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one's there and nothing was ever was
ever there as far as I know,

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But that's where it ends, I
make a circle. I don't I see

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nothing like there was There was no
car, there was no lights on inside

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the building. There was no like, I don't know, golf cart,

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I guess, or like a ranger
car. There's there's nothing. It was

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literally just the same as I had
arrived, except for that whatever that thing

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was and me. It was just
me, and so I do the circle

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around the parking lot and then ended
up. I didn't I didn't want to

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drive back the way I came yet
through the entrance because the entrance is kind

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of along. It's a long dark
road of just desert and trees and bushes.

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So just I was like, I'm
going to go further into the park

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instead and go to where it says
campsite and hopefully I can find like some

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people, because I kind of need
people at this moment. I don't care

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context, yeah, because I'm like, I don't I don't know, I

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don't know what's going on, and
I didn't know what to even think about

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it, and so I'm like,
I need something that I know is real,

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so I know I'm not tripping out. And so I turned left instead

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of going right, and I go
further into the park, and that's when

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the whole situation ends. But thinking
back and uh, you know, reviewing

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it, in my mind, it's
just the same thing over and over.

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It's the way I felt. It's
seeing nothing inside the face area and seeing

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this silver jumpsuit looking thing right behind
my trug. And I'm not want like

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I'm personally, I don't always believe
in the paranormal. I know it's there.

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I know it's just if it does, right, But I'm not like

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looking for an excuse to have a
story about something right right. Never,

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Yeah, I never, I can
never have that. I'm like, if

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it happens, great, cool,
if something, if you know, if

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I see bigfoot in the horse,
if I see something, if whatever happens,

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I'm like open, but I'm not
looking. And that's what like frightened

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me. I think mostly was that
I wasn't like ready for this situation to

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happen. It wasn't like prepared.
I wasn't thinking about it. It was

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just it just happened. You weren't
looking, but it found you. Yeah,

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exactly. Yeah, And I have
no explanation still to like what I

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could have been seeing or saw or
and conored I can go further into the

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night of like what happened, but
I mean, nothing else happened. I

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found the Great Dunes, took the
picture. There were some people around camping.

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My eye kept running, you know, swerving back to the welcoming Center

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where I had just been like some
some ways away across the dunes, you

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know, because the lights are on. I like the lamps, and you

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know, I was always occasionally look
back and see if anybody was there.

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Nobody was over there, but took
the picture, stayed there for like an

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hour, and ended up driving through
the night to Oklahoma because I was like,

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I'm not stopping when it's dark,
thank you, I'm not doing that.

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So okay, question time, You're
parked in this parking lot area at

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the welcome center. Yep. How
large of a parking lot is it?

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Is it? Is it a big
parking lot or small? I'd say it

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has like one to three four lanes
with a center median. So you got

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the front one, the front lane
of cars, Like maybe it can fit

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like fifteen cars. I'd say,
I'm sure that people could like find pictures

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of it on Google if they wanted
to see it. Oh yeah, I

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mean I could pull it up right
now and tell you exactly how my there

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are, but I'm off the top
of my head. The front, you

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know, fifteen fifteen fifteen, maybe
like ten at the at the back is

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it kind of it's almost like an
oval looking shape. It's not. It's

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like a fairly it's like as big
as it's a little bit bigger than like

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the Welcoming Center. The Welcoming Center
isn't that big. It's like it's one

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story and it's like maybe five rooms
across, I'd say, so it's like

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not that big. And then like
the parking lot kind of wraps like in

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an oval in front of it,
and then has the entrance to go out

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to the exit and then into the
park pretty much. And then are there

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like trees and stuff lining the outside
of the parking lot or what so the

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outside on the right side, I
believe there's like some giant bushes. It's

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the deserts. There's not like too
many trees. I know. The middle

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median has like some small bushes,
like little brush and like grass looking things.

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And then where I was there was
grass, like the brown grass kind

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of like the tall on the tall
graph. And then the log fence that's

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like two logs high. I'd say, you know, it's not that big.

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It's kind of like it's like the
fence for aesthetic, but it doesn't

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actually act as a fence, right, Yeah, And whenever you first saw

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this thing, how far away from
your truck would you guess it was from

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my truck? I thought it was
around fifty feet. I'm guessing it was

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just past my truck, like maybe
three car lengths. And how far were

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you on the opposite side of the
truck. I was like probably one car

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lengthy, one to two crawlings the
way, pretty close, pretty close to

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the point where I was like,
I knew I was going to be it

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to my truck if I just started
moving right away. That's what I did.

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So I wasn't. I wasn't fun. So the lights are on and

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everything, so I know, you
say it didn't have a face, but

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like you got a pretty good look
at this thing and the lights, I

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assume, yeah, kind of right, so it didn't. It looked like

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it was hitting a light, you
know how like biker vests have a reflective

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river on them. Yeah, and
when it's not being reflected, it kind

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of looked gray but kind of sparkly. Yeah, that's what those lighting looks

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like. It wasn't glowing, but
it looked reflective, so the lights weren't

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even like there, I'm guessing like
there was no light hitting it, although

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on the right side of it,
if you know, I could see it

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obviously, so I'm assuming there was
some light from the lamps out there.

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But it was like it wasn't like
it wasn't illuminated because it's still dark.

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You look around and everything's pitch black, and it's like not that much brighter

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in the parking lot because there's like
two lamps up right. So it was

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like that where it was like,
oh, here it is, but you

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can't really you can't really see it
too much. It just looked like a

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figure human. It looks humanoid ish, right because it has like arms and

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a body and a hood, but
then no faith in the middle of it.

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And that's it was like, you
just it looks like a void,

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but it looks like the surrounding area. It just looks pitch black. What

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did the suit look like? I
mean, I know, you dark in

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color, like a track suit,
but typically I mean clothes have like zippers

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and labels and things like that.
Did you notice anything, No, labels,

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no zippers. It just looked it
looked maybe it could have had like

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a zip up hoodie is what it
may have looked like, judging by how

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like the whole body frame of it
was. But I didn't see arms swinging,

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so I didn't see hands. I
just saw the figure moving towards me,

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like almost as if it was like
not floating, but like I could

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see it was moving, and it
was just it was just gray. I

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could see like the where it's arms
were next to it. You could see

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it like it had arms. It
looks like it was wearing like almost like

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a hoodie. There's no face inside. It was just just pitch black,

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and it was tall, and it
was tall, and so it was like

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just moving towards me. And you
know, however long I looked at it,

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I then made a decision to just
move because I was like, I

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don't know what I'm looking at,
and I'm not just gonna stand here and

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wait for it to catch up to
me, because it was moving towards me.

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I mean, you mentioned, you
know earlier, about how the human

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mind recognizes things just instantly whenever we
see them, and how one of the

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most frightening aspects was your mind not
being able to understand, like what am

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I looking at? I would think
that, let's just say, it's a

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tall guy in a tracksuit and his
face is kind of shadowed because he's got

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his hood up. Yeah, I
would assume that your brain would register that

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as being exactly that. Yeah.
I would have been like, oh,

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it's a human walking to Yeah,
it's a tall guy in the tracksuit.

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Yeah, because I mean that's where
my brain immediately went to describe it,

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right, And that's how I've described
it till what was it Like last year

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over the summer, I went camping
and they're like, you have any stories,

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and I was like, well,
I have one there, you know,

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that's my story. To describe it, I need to tracks you because

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it was great with a silver you
know, slightly left silver outline of it.

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But it was just tall and moving
towards me. And it wasn't acting

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like a human would have acted,
you know, because if I'm in that

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situation and I'm the person, I'm
like, hey, yea, yeah,

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I would have said something and not
just disappeared at two am, especially at

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you know two am isolated parking lot, Yeah, where no one's at some

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guy pulls up in a truck and
gets out with the camera and stuff.

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I mean, yeah, I mean
that's what you know. My first instinct

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would have been, if it's a
person, they're probably interested in what I'm

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doing, yeah, taking a picture. But it didn't do anything. It

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just kept walking or moving towards the
truck, towards me, as if it's

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going to like come around the truck
and then come towards me. But I

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was like, I'm not gonna sit
around for that to happen because I don't

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know what I'm even looking at.
So I know you have no way of

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knowing this, but in your estimation, you get in your truck, you're

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looking around kind of wanting to see
it, but not wanting to see it.

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Yeah, I mean, did it
have time to get out of there

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and go hide somewhere or get out
of you from you could? Is that

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a possibility? So the bushes and
trees are really small. It's like there's

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like a one giant bush, but
it's like branches. It's like those branch

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bushes. So I would have seen
it and I would have heard it too,

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like shuffle a a if it was
a person and you can't escape headlights.

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I would assume, Yeah, I
can't escape headlights and the lights are

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on in the truck. It's not
like I didn't have It wasn't like pitch

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black everywhere. It was just these
two lights in the parking lot and then

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my truck lights. And around where
I am because I'm on the far left

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side, there's just bushes, and
then the front of the building which kind

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of wraps around like wraps around the
part of the front part of the parking

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lot, and then behind like you
know, a way past the building are

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like just like some trees and bushes
and just like pitch blackness into like the

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night. But it wouldn't have to
go past you to get to that,

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like into the headlights or whatever.
Yeah, it would have to it would

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either have to run past me or
it would have had to just run straight

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back where it came from on the
right side of the truck. And you

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know, but like across the whole
parking lot to hide behind a bush that

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it couldn't hide behind that you really
couldn't hide behind with that tall And yeah,

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so I mean I don't personally,
I just don't see that being a

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liable option, only because like there
wasn't much around. It's kind of like

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it's flatsh with like a couple of
trees around the area. But it's not

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like a dense force like out here
in Georgia, where like to seconds,

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I'm i to go missing, right, It's it's almost like a plane almost

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whenever you first got out of the
vehicle, any impending doom fillings or anything

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like that before you saw it.
No, No, not really, no,

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not at all. Actually I had
no I was like, I'm gonna

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go take a picture, and that
was really the only thing in my mind,

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you know. I mean, it's
dark and you can't see anything,

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so you're always like hopefully nothing shows
up, like like an animal or like

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an air or like a mountain lion
or something. I don't know what's out

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there. I don't know any animals
in Colorado. I know it's Colorado.

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It's wild. So there was no
feeling though. The only the only time

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I actually had that feeling was the
I think the previous night I was in

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the arches. I think that was
after No, I think it was before

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I went to the arches and try
to get a picture. No, it

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was before, yeah, because I
tried to get a picture, and it

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was foggy, but though you know, nothing happened there. I did the

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same thing, got out of the
car, try to take a picture,

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foggy, I can't, got back
in and left. The only thing I

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had there was kind of like,
ooh, this is kind of creepy because

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the arches are giant rocks, so
you have the night darkness and then you

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have the rock darkness, which is
like a contrast. It's way darker than

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it is like the night sky,
And so that was like, oh,

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that's kind of creepy because you can
just see these giant looming almost like massive

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structures, but they're just giant rocks. So that's kind of creepy, you

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know, looking into like more darkness
apart from the darkness you're already looking at.

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But that's it, you know.
But when I got to the Great

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Dunes, I had in mind already. I was like, I'm gonna go

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take a picture of the stars and
the sand. Dudes. I didn't have

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any like inclination of like a like
an impending doom feeling or or anything like

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that. On the way up,
you know, there's like little posters they

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glow up. It's like a light
bulb almost like crystas lights put us in

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the same in the shape of a
flying saucer. Okay, there is that,

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Yeah, there's that. On the
way up at someone's property iseline.

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So it was like, look an
alien. But it was like, on

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my buying around, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna go find an alien tonight.

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I didn't mind. I was like, I'm gonna take a picture of

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stars. You know, I didn't
have any any idea that I would have

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run into something. So let me
tell you a story. It's about two

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o'clock in the morning. Like I'm
not I'm not even I'm not even joking

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for real. Same time. Yeah, a friend of mine had come over

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to my house at this point in
time in my life. My room was

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at the back of the house.
The backyards right outside the room. The

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room has like three double windows on
the back wall that faced the backyard,

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and there's a chain link fence with
a very old, squeaky gait right there

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by the house. So oftentimes my
friends would just come to the back and

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come in through the gate and knock
on my window and you can hear the

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gate like as soon as they hit
the handle on the gate. You can

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hear it. This friend of mine
had come over. We're sitting in that

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back room. It's getting kind of
late, about two o'clock. All I

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remember for certain. It was after
one point thirty. I know that,

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so I'm guessing that it was around
two eight. We go out of my

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house through the front door. His
car is parked right there in the driveway,

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and at my house, my driveway
and the neighbor's driveway are side by

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side to the point where it just
forms like a double wide driveway going from

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the street all the way to the
back of the house. His car is

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in my driveway, but there's like
an empty driveway next to it. And

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then my vehicle was parked in front
of his, and I was driving a

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Ford Explorer at the time. So
we're standing behind his vehicle in the driveway

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just talking before he leaves, and
we hear the gate at the back of

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the house. Well, I'm thinking
it must be one of my friends coming

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over and they went around back and
we just missed one another. So I

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start looking around. I don't see
any cars, you know, none of

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my friends vehicles are out there.
Yeah, And so we're kind of like

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looking at one another and looking down
the driveway, and the driveway kind of

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widens behind the house a little bit, so you can't see the gate from

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the driveway at the front of the
house. So we're waiting for whoever it

408
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:52,480
is to come walking out from around
the corner at the back of the house.

409
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,079
At the end of the driveway on
the neighbors side, on the front

410
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:03,160
of their garage is one of those
orange outdoor lights like you were talking about,

411
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,079
So there is that light. A
few seconds go by, here comes

412
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:17,279
somebody walking out from behind the house, just like we expected. My driveway

413
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:25,880
is maybe fifty feet long, sixty
feet long from where we are, so

414
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,519
not real far, but it's not
real close. And I don't recognize the

415
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:37,079
person. I can't just instantly recognize
them. And they walk to a position

416
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:44,279
where they're now my vehicle and his
vehicle are now blocking the view of them.

417
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,279
We can't see them anymore. That's
interesting. Yeah, So we start

418
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,400
walking back over into my front yard
to change the angle where we could see

419
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,039
them. Yeah, and we don't
see them. They're not there, and

420
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:02,359
I'm just like, what's going on. I'm pretty much in the middle of

421
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,559
my front yard at this point,
and for some reason, I don't know

422
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,880
why didn't think to like yell out
or anything. Maybe it's because it was

423
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,559
so late. You know, we
work our way back over towards the driveway.

424
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,720
Now we're going to change our angle
on the other side, you know,

425
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:24,039
to see who this is. As
soon as we walk over back basically

426
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:30,119
to where we had been, you
can see them, but they're standing in

427
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:37,079
the shadow next to my neighbor's house, almost like they're hiding. Yeah,

428
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:45,119
we kind of like step out into
the neighbor's driveway, still at the back

429
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,240
of his vehicle, but even with
it, and now we're in the other

430
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:53,920
driveway and they start walking down the
driveway towards us, directly towards us.

431
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Here's something else to say, just
for a side note, he and I

432
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:05,480
are both really big dudes, not
small at all. Intimidating for sure.

433
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,920
I do not recognize this person at
all. What I can tell you from

434
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,759
what I can see because they're backlit
by this light at my neighbor's house at

435
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:22,160
this point. So the silhouette,
Yeah, the silhouette is like a person

436
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:30,599
much smaller than me, but looks
like an adult male long hair. I

437
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,200
can tell that they have long hair. It looks like some sort of jacket

438
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:44,160
and pants, pretty uniform. I
was thinking, maybe it's a jean jacket

439
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,920
and jeans or something. And they're
just like walking right towards us, and

440
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,440
he and I are standing there,
and this is the weird part. Neither

441
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,400
one of us could move. Neither
one of us could talk, We couldn't

442
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,680
move, we couldn't do anything.
We were just standing there frozen. And

443
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,360
this person made their way straight to
us. And right before they got to

444
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,960
us, they turned to their left, which was our right, and changed

445
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,599
their angle where they walked between us
and the corner of my neighbor's house and

446
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:28,519
just cut straight across my neighbor's front
yard. They walked through the yard to

447
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,679
the sidewalk and then walked down the
sidewalk. We're watching them this whole time.

448
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,079
They're just casually strolling. They never
say anything, they never stop.

449
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,800
They go all the way to the
end of the street. They turn left.

450
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,440
We can still see them walking.
As soon as we lost view of

451
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800
them as they like went behind the
house at the end of the street,

452
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,960
we snap out of it and we're
both just like, what the hell.

453
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:06,320
Hell, here's the thing. I
will swear on anything. It did not

454
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:14,679
have a face. It was just
empty blackness. At its closest point,

455
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:22,440
it was I'm getting goosebumps right now, man, I used to go out

456
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,119
and look for Bigfoot. Yeah,
this is the scariest thing that's ever happened

457
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,920
to me in my life. This
thing did not have a face. It

458
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,079
was just empty darkness. It was
like there was a silhouette. It was

459
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,719
three dimensional. I could tell it
had long hair, I could tell it

460
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,639
had clothing on, but it was
all just black. There was nothing there.

461
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,400
Yeah, my friend saw the exact
same thing. He still won't talk

462
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,440
about it really, Like he doesn't
like to talk about it. I mean,

463
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,719
like I could. I haven't talked
to this guy in probably five years.

464
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,079
I could call him up and be
like, hey, man, you

465
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,840
remember that thing in the driveway,
and he'd be like, you know,

466
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960
shut the f up, man,
don't talk about it. Yeah. Whenever

467
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,440
we snapped out of it, you
know, I'm like, what the hell

468
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:08,599
was that? And he's like,
it didn't have a face, Like that

469
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,840
was the first thing he said.
Oh yeah, I immediately go inside the

470
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,519
house, call nine to one one
and I called the cops. Man,

471
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:22,679
I didn't know I was shook.
I was absolutely shook. I said,

472
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:30,000
there was a guy in my backyard. Yeah, they send the cops.

473
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,719
I tell them, you know,
we tell them the story. We don't

474
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,599
tell them that it didn't have a
face or anything. We just say this

475
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,159
person. We didn't We couldn't really
make any details out. They walked down

476
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,840
to the industry. They turned left, the cops went drove around. He

477
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,559
and I got in his vehicle,
drove around, never saw anybody, couldn't

478
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,079
find anybody. I have no idea
what it was, but I will swear

479
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,360
until I die it did not have
a face. It was just darkness,

480
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,599
just a black void where its face
should have been. It's interesting that you

481
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:12,960
say you couldn't move and that,
because that's how I felt like the moment.

482
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,679
I thought. I don't know if
it was the same for you,

483
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,679
if it like took you a little
longer, But it was like I instantly

484
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,840
looked registered it wasn't a person,
and then it couldn't move. Yeah,

485
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,519
And it felt like I was forcing
you know how you get like sleep paralysis.

486
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,639
Yeah, yeah, that's what it
felt like. And I had to

487
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:36,199
force myself out of it to move
towards my truck. But for you,

488
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,639
like what was that feeling of like
you couldn't move and did you get sick?

489
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:45,199
Almost, So, whenever I first
saw it step out from behind my

490
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,760
house and you know, kind of
walk to where it was hidden from view,

491
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,199
at that point, it was like
just kind of that ice cold vein

492
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,039
feeling. And then I was like, who is that? You know,

493
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:05,880
my mind is trying to process again
what I'm seeing, and like, who

494
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,719
is this? Who is at my
house? Because like I heard the gate.

495
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,960
I know we both heard the gate, so yeah, so it's like

496
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,239
physical right, And then whenever we
saw it again and it's like leaned over

497
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,719
against the house as soon as it
stepped out of the shadow and started walking

498
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,119
towards us, is when we both
just froze, just could not move.

499
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:36,119
Because in any normal situation, he
and I, especially him, would have

500
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,480
been like, hey, who are
you you know? Yeah, I mean,

501
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:44,199
especially if you're that build. Yeah
yeah, yeah, for sure.

502
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,679
I have no explanation for our behavior, for its behavior, what it looked

503
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,760
like, anything. And here's the
other weird thing about it. Like I

504
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,679
said, we heard the gate,
we heard it come out of the backyard,

505
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,519
but we had been in my room
the entire time, and we never

506
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:06,719
heard the gate where it went into
the backyard. Oh so it disappeared or

507
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:15,199
I have no idea. I have
no clue. It's funny that you even

508
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,039
say it had like a jean jacket
on, because it's great. Still.

509
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,800
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't make
out like any colors or anything. Did

510
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,559
I have like a silver lining around
it? Uh? Not that I remember.

511
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:31,840
Okay, it was kind of like, I mean, there was just

512
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,480
like the outline of it because of
the light that was behind it at the

513
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:43,960
end of the driveway. Yeah,
but still at that I mean, anybody

514
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,880
else walking down my driveway, I
would like it wasn't that dark. But

515
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,400
this thing was dark, like a
shadow like darker than its surroundings. It

516
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:58,360
did, Yeah, because that's what
the like to me. I could tell

517
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,800
that the suit it was wearing,
it was obviously not pitch black. It

518
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,840
was just like there was no there
were I didn't see hands, didn't see

519
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,840
feet, and there was no face. You know. I looked it was

520
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,239
looking straight at me, and that's
the thing. I was looking straight at

521
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,400
me. So if there was texture, you know, as someone was wearing

522
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,920
a mask, I could have seen
that. Because it's twenty twenty one,

523
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,679
I believe at this point, and
some people are still wearing masks at the

524
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,760
time. No mask, no full
face thing. It was just nothing,

525
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,360
almost as if you're looking into the
darkness that I heard that's around me.

526
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:42,480
Anyway, when you mentioned where you
moved the angle right of the truck or

527
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,079
the car, I did the same
thing because that's where. That's why I

528
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,559
moved left to like change the angle, and that's when it wasn't there anymore.

529
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Yeah, I mean, I've tried
to figure this one out for years,

530
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:04,920
and the reason being is obviously I
know there's going to be people listening

531
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,239
to this episode and I get it. Oh, so it was just like

532
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,880
some guy in your backyard, you
know it was dark out or something.

533
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,599
No, if that were it,
I wouldn't be telling you about it right

534
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:21,320
now. Well, you also have
like a feeling, and that's you know,

535
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,559
people during the camping trip ask me
the same thing, like, it's

536
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:27,360
sure wasn't just a guy. I
was like, I don't think I would

537
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,159
be reacting the same way if it
was a guy, right, And I

538
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:34,440
probably would have said something. On
a personable person, I don't say nothing,

539
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,119
and I don't get scared off of
seeing somebody well me And then another

540
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:45,239
guy who, yeah, you're with
somebody too. I mean, my friend

541
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,639
is very confrontational. He likes to
get into fights. And you know,

542
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,679
in a normal scenario, this is
somebody that doesn't belong on my property,

543
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,960
that's all my property, and has
just gotten busted. You know, like

544
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,840
we're gonna beat the crap out of
this guy. You know, like,

545
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:07,599
who are you? Why are you
in my backyard? Man? What are

546
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:12,119
you doing here? Yeah? Honestly, and we were both just like frozen,

547
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,119
couldn't move, could not move.
It wasn't even a choice. And

548
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:23,480
it wasn't like frozen with fear as
much as it was just almost just like

549
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:29,000
in a zombie state, just like
watching it, nothing even registering, just

550
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:32,679
watching it walk by, just standing
there and watching this thing walk by.

551
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,880
And then after it got out of
sight where we couldn't see it anymore.

552
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:44,960
And keep in mind, it's walked
it's at least six houses to the end

553
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,239
of the block. It's walked right
by us within five feet. It's walked

554
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
through this front yard, it's walked
down the sidewalk, it's turned left,

555
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:59,079
it's walked past that house. After
it goes out of you, we instantly

556
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,800
snap out of it. And start
freaking out. Not while it's walking away,

557
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,119
not whenever it's five houses away.
Well, also is it right next

558
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,559
to you too? Yeah, And
the entire time, even with it walking

559
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:15,880
down the sidewalk and all of that, still can't see anything, can't make

560
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,679
out a face, nothing. Granted
it's back was turned to us and everything,

561
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,599
but even as it's walking down the
side, you know, at the

562
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:29,760
end of the street, there's no
like profile to it or anything. Yeah,

563
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,440
that's wild. Yeah, Like even
I don't even know to think about

564
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,119
that one, I mean yours.
I would like to say, you saw

565
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:44,000
an alien, you know, wearing
a space suit at the dunes in Colorado?

566
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Mine shadow, man, I don't
know. Are they the same thing?

567
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:51,800
I don't know. Do they come
from the same place, No clue.

568
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,400
All I know is you saw something
without a face and I saw something

569
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,280
without a face. Yeah, I
mean it could have been lead the same

570
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:07,000
hype of something and very similar reactions
in both cases, I would say,

571
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,199
Yeah, very similar, I'd say. And that's the thing is, like

572
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,920
I was kind of hoping you have
like some kind of exclamation, but well,

573
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,239
because I was, like, I've
been looking for one for so long

574
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,480
and I still just even just thinking
about it. Whenever I'm out alone by

575
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:28,480
myself at night, it's just like, oh, maybe i'll see it again.

576
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,519
I don't know. I'm hoping.
I don't obviously, but it's just

577
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:37,440
like always there. So the only
thing that comes to mind. And it's

578
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:44,599
not the same place exactly, I
don't know exactly where it is. So

579
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:52,039
I'm from Oklahoma and out towards the
Panhandle, which is the general area you

580
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:58,760
were at. There's a place here
in Oklahoma where all kinds of like crazy

581
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,960
weird stuff happens, the Shamans Triangle
or something weird like that. It's got

582
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,199
some crazy name, and it's just
like it's just like a weird place where

583
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:17,360
people see UFOs and weird things and
weird stuff happens all the time. So

584
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:24,199
I'm wondering if maybe something connected to
just that geographic region of the United States

585
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,039
or something. I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I

586
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:34,440
haven't looked into anything regarding the Great
Dudes. I did very briefly before I

587
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,800
emailed you. I was like,
maybe this is like a normal thing.

588
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,519
I didn't find too much. The
only thing I did find was like aliens.

589
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,960
But it's like I haven't seen anything. I don't know, and I

590
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:52,639
part of me wants to go back
and like figure out what it is or

591
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,519
maybe encounter it again. I appreciate
you coming on here and sharing it.

592
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:01,840
Man, I wish I had some
aner is for you. It's okay,

593
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,239
I'll keep looking. Yeah. Do
you got a place for people to check

594
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,280
out your photographs or anything? Yeah? I just have an Instagram. It's

595
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,519
aiden r D L so a I
D E N r D and L laughter

596
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,599
and then I should pop up on
Instagram. Yeah, and thank you for

597
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:22,760
having us has fun, Yeah,
of course, man,
