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welcome back to Fox Sports fourteen fifty. We are here. We had

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we we we he didn't hear the
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fired up our our our stuff because
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feed. So something happened that we
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Good, good, good, Hey, welcome back and I'm here.

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Welcome back. I'm pretty I'm glad
to be back. I give you a

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lot of grief and I'm gonna get
your tuesday overreaction to a lot of things.

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Okay, well, where do you
want to start your Tuesday? Alba

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reaction to Arizona football. Okay,
so we had jed yesterday and I know

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it's kind of old news, but
you weren't here yesterday, I have my

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reaction. Did you read my column? He probably didn't get a chance.

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Okay, So so here's I'll set
this up because I already know where you're

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gonna go with this. So I
saw the game. I went to the

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game Yadida a week ago before Saturday. They played Stanford. Didn't look so

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well, right, and they barely
survived. But it's typical with Stanford.

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But they barely survived, but they
won. All's good. Uh, they

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don't usually win. Blah blah blah. So now they play against Washington.

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You were there in the stands,
great crowd, right, fantastic atmosphere.

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They were in my mind they were
one touchdown away from being blown out.

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They had them on the five fumble
the ball game, and they scored and

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they paid close. Right, maybe
even I'll play them at to some degree

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in the second half. Bravo,
bravo. Okay, so what what do

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you make of the last two weeks? Now from from from Arizona or I

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know, what do you make of
the weekend? And then we'll put two

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weeks. Well, first of all, you know, with with what happened

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Saturday, you know at fourteen to
nothing, right, everyone had got what

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are you thinking, blow out?
They're gonna lose my fifteen? All right,

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Arizone goes down, scores, cuts
it to, you know, fourteen

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to seven. Washington keeps scoring.
They go halftimes, twenty one to ten,

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right, uh yeah, twenty one, ten and a half time.

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Arizona had a chance to go down
and they kicked a field instead of getting

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the touchdown, So they're down,
you know, eleven instead of a touchdown.

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It took to the end of the
game for me to realize what I

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thought I saw, which was a
team that continued to fight, wasn't gonna

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let itself get blown out, was
overmatched, was never really in there,

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was never gonna win the game.
I never ever, ever thought they were

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gonna even win. Arizona scored with
a minute left. I thought, even

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if they get the onside kicked there, don't you know, I didn't think

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they were gonna win the game.
I said, even if it gets into

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overtime, Washington's gonna win this game. Washington's a lot better team. But

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the fact that they continued the fight, they never you could tell the team

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never felt they were out of the
game. Right, They played admirably and

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so I'm like, okay, you
know, if if you weren't gonna win

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the game, which they never were
going to win the game, the best

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case scenario, right, No,
actually a good way to put the best

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case scenario was exactly that they played
well in spurts and they played well in

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the second half. Yeah. Just
well, I mean similar to the USC

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Colorado game earlier in the Colorado is
getting blown out. They had no hope,

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but they got themselves up, you
know, into the game and made

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the USC think about it. Let
me also say this because I've seen a

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thousand times or maybe a thousand and
one teams like USC or Oregon, uh,

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Washington and the bigger programs, the
mager schools. Uh, they need

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a carrot, they need a carrot. And and when you're up twenty one

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twenty eight, there's no carrot.
You know, they were mission accomplished.

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Let's go to get out of here
and get and take the plane at home.

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And I think that may have been
a factor. I know it was

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that you was with USC in Colorado. Colorado had no no they were being

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blown out. That was a blowout, no matter what anybody says. And

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the Arizona here it may not have
been a blowout, but it was not

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a was it was you know,
it was what it was. It was

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encouraging for Arizona though exactly. Uh
And in Washington media, I saw that

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stuff and it was like, okay, it was a game. Maybe it

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was good to have him close because
now you know, for them down the

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road right and you look and you
had to feel that had Arizona kept it

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a little closer, let's say they
score a touchdown, it right, at

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any point you felt Washington, Washington
could turn on the gas. Sure,

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sure, okay, sure sure.
So on the one hand, yes,

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while it was a good feeling for
air Zona to only lose to Washington by

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seven, Washington was gonna dictate what
happened if they needed to step on the

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gas, and they could have done
it at anytime. They could have.

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Okay, here's a perfect example,
all right, I had I had to

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get on a six thirty plane on
Sunday morning. Okay, so I was

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gonna I decided going in, if
they're getting blown out, I'm gonna leave

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because I gotta get you know,
I gotta get rid of you know,

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I'm leaving down. So when Arizona
turns the ball over on downs. With

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about four and a half minutes left, I get up from my seat and

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I sit on the west side.
So I'm walking along the concourse, the

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north concourse, you know, leaving
the stadium. I'm the only one in

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my group who was still there.
Everybody else had left, and so I

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get to the corner, so basically
the northeast corner, all right, and

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I see Washington's got the ball.
They're gonna run out the clock, and

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they throw a pass. Yeah,
I'm like, what the hell are they

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doing it? They throw another path
Yeah, I'm like, wait, what

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the hell, They're not running in
any clock? What are they doing?

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So then they go back for another
pass and they get and he gets sacked,

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and I'm like, and Arizona costs
time out. They've run fifteen seconds

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off the clock. So there's still
like four minutes left in the in the

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game, and Arizone's gonna get the
ball, and I'm like, down two

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touchdowns, yeah, down two touchdowns. I'm like, okay, well,

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okay, now I'm gonna stand here, you know, because I didn't have

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a I didn't sit in the seat. I just stood at the railing.

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Let's see what Arizona then they go
down and score, I'm like, well

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what And there's a minute left again, not thinking Arizona was gonna win the

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game, but thinking if something happens, I need to be here right right

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right now. And I think it
was an admirable performance, you know what.

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I really liked though. Obviously,
how could you not like t mac

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right, he's fantastic. The dude's
gonna make a ton of money. But

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I do like Fafida. I do
like Fafida in his role. You know,

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they didn't make it complicated for him. They didn't need to. They

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just dinks and dunks and hid the
ball move just the anti de Laura played

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gave him something he could hand good
exactly. And he couldn't handle the long

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ball. He's not ready for that
yet. And that's fine. But I

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like I like how he plays because
he just manages the game right and and

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and you know it's funny because listening
to Jet Fisher's press conference, yes,

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right, and I listened to what
he had to say about it. But

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they did him. Why they did
it. The plan was to make if

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Washington was gonna score, they were
gonna have to earn it. They were

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gonna have to move the ball down
the field. They did not let Washington

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go along. Yeah, and they
kept throwing these dnks and dunks, and

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I'm like, how are they gonna
stop that? Right? Every time a

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guy got the ball, nobody was
in the name. You know, they

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break a tackle it. But they
had one long ball and that was the

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ball to the tight end. And
so Arizona was gonna make them. And

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it's funny because we asked the question
on Tuesday or last Monday or no,

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it was Thursday, how many points
do you do? You put a point

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total that's say, if we can
hold him to this, we went Jed

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would not answer the question, said
we don't really do that. Then today

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or yesterday says we thought if we
held him to thirty points or less,

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we could win the game. And
that was the game plan. If they

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were gonna score, it was gonna
take gonna have to take them a while

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to score. Yeah. And and
really, you know, we've seen other

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times where you know, teams let
a team dank and dunk their way down

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the field, because if you're at
some point, they're gonna make a bad

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throw, You're gonna get a sack, get a penalty, you're gonna be

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able to stop and try. The
problem was Washington didn't make too many of

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those mistakes. No, because they're
too good. I mean the quarterback is

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too good. Right, No,
And uh, it was a good strategy

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on both ends. You know,
Washington just came in to get to win

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and move on. They held him
to thirty one points, which technically he

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gave themselves a chance to win the
games. Sure, sure, sure,

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but you never really had a chance. I didn't think they Yeah, no,

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it was fine. I mean it
was a good strategy from both sides.

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I do like Fefita and his in
his role. Uh, my guests,

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My guess I don't know anything is
that that dell Roy will sit out

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again and and wait, it sounded
like it from the from the uh,

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from the press conference that you know
he's he's still doing a lot of treatment

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and stuff like you know, your
tea leaves right, You're you're certain to

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the tea leaves. Uh, and
you're okay with it because Fefida, because

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Sfida handled his his own and Arizona. I was on a podcast yesterday from

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USC and I was saying Arizona's good
better, there's still only the eighth or

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ninth best team in the league.
Their defense is so much better. But

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you know, you heard they don't
have an interception this year. No,

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I know, it's funny because he
said that yesterday. I'm saying, you

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know what, You're right, and
they haven't taken the ball away fumble wise

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either yet. Just a couple of
times. Yeah. No, it's just

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a kind of not a bend but
no break. But it's just it's just

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it's just it's a steady defense.
Yeah. I like what I'm seeing.

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I feel like they let me,
let me do something. We have a

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minute, we're gonna have let's talk
a little quick. We're gonna have Monico,

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Jim Monico from our PEMA guys here
talking about the soccer big tournament coming

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up. And then in the second
now we're gonna have sau Bookman from talking

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about the Suns from he's from p
x PHS. But I was gonna go

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through the schedule and we'll do that
after after because because it's a gauntlet,

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man, it's a gauntlet. We
saw this, it was gonna be a

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gauntlet, but now that you really
look at it in front of you,

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I know what you have. We'll
see if it's gone right. Before we

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go to break. I'm gonna say
right now, you can hold me to

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it. This from what I saw
this last weekend, I think Arizona can

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be both Colorado and USC USC oh
because because USC's got zero defense, it's

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they now if they cannot score them. I'm not saying that I think they

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will. I think they've got a
way better chance to beat in USC than

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they did of Washington because just because
USC's defense is so suspect, they get

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into a shootout and start scoring points
and they can't stop Arizona, and Arizona

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can't stop them. It's like,
who gets the ball? We better go

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to break because I think you sit
this radio station on fire. No what

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you just said. I just think
it's it's not out of the realm of

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possibility. Because USC's defense is so
bad. It's so bad, I think

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it's not going to be close.
Let's go, we gotta go, we

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gotta let's hit the road. We're
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Com breaking down all the excess at
Alls. It's Steve Rivera and Jakins Ombits.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to Winding the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera. He's Jakins also now on
the phone. We have Jim Monaco,

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the ad at Pimo College. How
are you doing good? Doing good?

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You guys make aunt you tie to
having me on. No, in fact,

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we haven't talked to you in a
long time. Yeah, it's so

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enjoyable. It felt like yesterday.
I'm a little worried that you're tired of

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coming on. You're not tired of
coming on the show, are you never?

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Okay? Yeah, well you kind
of make us laugh. You're kind

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of good at this. How do
think? How do you think's going on

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with there? You had some big
news nothing we didn't know already, but

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you had big news. What the
soccer programs you have? Yeah, yeah,

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yep, we uh we have that. We have that going on in

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November, and uh it's been great
and and and actually it's been so great

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that they want us to continue to
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Well, you just made the announcement, right, was it yesterday? Yep?

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And we did. And how did
that go? You shaid, continue,

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is it more than just this coming
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So excuse me. They asked me
to why you go ahead and put in

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for future tournaments, and so I
suppoke to the old chancellor who was not

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in favor of it. And when
Dolores uh I'm service that took over,

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she was very interested in it.
So we filed our application. And I

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don't believe it's going to be considered
for twenty five because they'd like to pick

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a more neutral site. But the
actual NJCAA was very interested in making Tucson

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basically like the hub. So come
back here for twenty six, twenty seven,

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go somewhere else for twenty eight,
come back to twenty nine thirty,

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that kind of thing. I mean, we've also had interest. They want

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us to apply for the golf National
Championships, and so there's a bunch of

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things, And I mean Tucson is
a great place to have stuff, right

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well, because you can do stuff
anytime of the year, right you coming,

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come in the winter time or whatever. You know, you've got a

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chance against some great weather. I
mean, nothing against Madison, Wisconsin,

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but they were against us. And
you know, the University of Wisconsin was

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actually part of the bid and they
said somebody wise it was incredible. But

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who the heck wants to go to
Wisconsin in the second week in November.

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Yeah, no, you're right,
visit Tucson must love you. Yeah,

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I don't know they're interesting. Nobody's
saying anything but you guys. No,

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congratulations on a nice, nice big
deal. So, uh and your team,

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I don't know this in pardon me
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both the men and the women are
just the men. Oh no, it's

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vote its vote men and women Division
two. Okay, No, So you

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have a lot of teams, a
lot of people coming in spending some time

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here in Tucson, so that that
must be and you and you have at

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least a men's side. I don't
know how the women are doing. Are

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doing fantastically well? And hey that's
breaking news, right of course they are,

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oh right, and no, they're
they're unbelievable. You know. I

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mean, being a football baseball guy
my whole life, soccer was never a

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big deal. And when I watched
this young team, and they are very

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young. They passed the ball it
watching them play and the only trip up

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they had was against Phoenix College and
you know, well we'll get him again

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in the playoffs. But right now
they've just done an incredible tier. So,

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Jim, when when you have stuff
like this, you know, because

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we know recruiting is hard, you
know, getting players to come to wherever

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you're at is hard no matter who
you are, how much stuff like this

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help that? How much do the
coaches appreciate having this kind of a spotlight

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on the program? Do you mean
as in far as our actual soccer team

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or having the tournament here? No, having the tournament here? You know,

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how does that help your overall soccer
program? Well, I think it's

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great because it sheds a light on
what we do in a national way,

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so it takes us across the country. But I'll be honest as far as

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the coaches, they're not in love
with me when I get that here.

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They really feel a lot of pressure. Wow, Okay, Like I said,

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they have two options, you to
win and playing it or you don't

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and work it so big one no
okay, and you and so the season's

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almost don't right you're getting to the
tail end. Yeah. We actually I

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was talking to Race Wars earlier and
the championships for our conference are the third

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week of October, so we only
have a few more weeks of the divisional

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play and then we go ahead and
conference play, and we go ahead and

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started seeing who's gonna go. So
to pardon me, because I don't know

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how the women are doing it.
I should be reading race stuff that he

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sends. Are they in contention as
well? They're working very hard. They've

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had they had a complete overhaul,
a lot a lot of sophomore based players

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last year, and Kendra is doing
an amazing job. She's had quite a

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few injuries. They're right in the
middle of the pack right now. So

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the next few weeks are going to
play very big for them. But they

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still have a shot to make the
national they absolutely do. Okay, all

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right, all right, so the
kinds of things going on around there,

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some of the other teams get gearing
up. We heard you guys, you

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lost a golf coach. What the
heck? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, he uh. He was
able to get a full time teaching job

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up into the Phoenix area, so
he took the job at at South Mountain,

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So, you know, good for
him. It's a great program,

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so he'll get to walk in and
and have some tremendous players. But uh,

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you know, golf wives were doing
fantastic, but a lot of young

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people in and they're playing great volleyballs, been been doing wonderful. They had

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a rough couple of big games,
but other than that, they've been doing

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dynamite basketball, going full swing.
And I'll tell you, Brian Peabody had

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an absolute killer squad. So who
did you Who did you hire to get

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to replace mister Smith? Have not
yet? Don Yes was taking over the

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program he was with with Marcus,
tremendous golf coach. The sad part was

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is, uh he just got transfer
the Phoenix also okay, okay, just

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today, so you guys are breaking
that we just lost our golf coach.

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So we're gonna we got a couple
of assistants that want to stay in that

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capacity but are willing to help out. And even Dawn from one hundred miles

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away is going to stay on as
a volunteer to see what he can do

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to help and we'll see if we
can bring somebody new in that's going to

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continue to carry the torch because John
has a big, big loss. He's

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a tremendous coach, great teacher.
Well, that's the hard part for you,

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right when you got to do these
kinds of things, you know,

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I mean, isn't the easy part
just you're having these programs or playing everything's

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going well, then you know,
when you've got to hire new coaches or

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you know, do things like that, that's that's your tough part of the

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job. Or am I it's very
tough because it's not. It's difficult losing

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great coaches, let me say that. But in considering that, out of

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you know, nothing I can do
about that. The best thing I can

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do is try to find somebody who's
gonna fit with what they've already recruited.

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And that's that's the key piece.
You know, they've done their recruiting for

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the year, so these student athletes
are going to have a new coach come

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in, hopefully sooner than later,
and then we got to see how they

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gell with this new person. So
that makes it very difficult trying to find

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somebody that can maintain what they've already
done on a personal level as well as

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a coaching level. So let me
ask you. I don't know if it's

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a complicated question or an accurate question, but I think Jay and I talked

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about this maybe two or three weeks
ago, given the state of the NIL,

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given the state of the transfer portals, and I said, and I

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may may have not been may have
been incorrect in saying this, that I

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think that the people that are hurt
the most are the high school players and

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the JC players because now it's a
swap meet pretty much at the Division one

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level because everyone's swapping players, And
now what did the JC players and the

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high school players go if it's all
swapped at the top. You're absolutely right,

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you know, I'm thrilled that I'm
going out not coming in. It's

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really difficult to be a coach.
And hey, I'll be honest with you.

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You know, I a would say
God knows what he's doing, because

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I could not sit and try to
recruit my players every single year. And

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what's really hurting is, of course
graduate transfers, the transfer quortal, the

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NILS. I mean, the UFA
lost the local kid last night. I

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mean, it's just it's it's crazier
than it's ever been. And I don't

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think I could navigate those waters.
My personality wouldn't fly. And it's really

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killing high school and JC and even
more in the area of football because we

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no longer have JC ball here in
Arizona. Sure no. We talked to

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guys our age and some of them
are leaving because of it. It's complicated.

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It is complicated, and I'll be
honest with you, I think because

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at the Division one level, the
NC double Division one level, they have

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loads of folks who can help.
I don't know if it's if it's as

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much complicated as it is tiring,
right. I can't imagine recruiting a kid

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that you're high on, they love
you, you have a good season,

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not a great season, and all
of sudden somebody walks in and says,

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we lost two guys to the transfer
portal, we want you and we have

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nil money and they just leave right
you know, it becomes it's very I've

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always told my guys here it's a
business, and that's the hard end of

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it when you have to treat it
like a business and maybe tell a young

406
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student athlete that it's their time's up, you know, and they're no longer

407
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going to be part of the team. But I just can't imagine you know,

408
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.599
and people always say, well,
coaches do it. You're right,

409
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.240
coaches do do it. But you
know, it's just it went from one

410
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.359
extreme to the other, right,
it is my opinion. No, that's

411
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I mean, that's really the essence
of it is that you went from zero

412
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to one hundred miles an hour and
no time flat, and now you have

413
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this atmosphere where as you said,
you know, you develop a relationship with

414
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a guy. I'm sure you know
with the football player that Arizona just lost.

415
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:07.839
You know, they thought they were
locked in with them. All of

416
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.680
a sudden you wake up and you
decide to go somewhere else, and you've

417
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:15.799
got a hole in your recruiting right, and you know realistically that the early

418
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.400
signing period comes up and then you
have It's just it's like I said,

419
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I don't know. Uh, as
well as I've been able to do,

420
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.799
thank god, I don't know if
I can navigate these waters. Well,

421
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.839
let me ask you in terms of
you know, because you talked about how

422
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.680
tough it is on the high schools
and the jac's, so you know,

423
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.200
what is the future then I know
this is gonna be a really hard question,

424
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.359
but or what do you see in
sort of the immediate future for you

425
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.680
know, athletes who come to junior
college a lot of times it's to come

426
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.880
and get their academics in order.
You know, they've got an opportunity to

427
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.359
play somewhere. Maybe they're close to
home, whatever reason, they go to

428
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Jac's. You know, are they
are they you know, kind of on

429
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:59.599
the outside looking in more often than
they used to be. Absolutely, absolutely,

430
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:06.200
And I think JAC transfers have the
hardest job because if you're looking and

431
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.400
being strictly honest, and I'm telling
you, you know, a few years

432
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.640
ago, I called our baseball team, right, I said, watch watch

433
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.880
coach hacking me, watch our baseball
program. I'm telling you this year,

434
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.880
Mike call is going to be really
watch our men's basketball. Our women's basketball

435
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.960
is always going to be great.
But Brian P. Buddy has put together

436
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.920
a squad. Now. Answering your
question, you know, you look at

437
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.119
things like this and would you take
a JC fans for from Tema who was

438
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.720
very very good, or would you
take a JC transfer from Toledo if you

439
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:42.559
were a Division one, you know
program, And that's that's really how do

440
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:47.000
you look at it? Right?
He was playing against JC competition this guy

441
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.839
was playing in the MAC. Yeah. I mean it's just it's you know

442
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.359
what's it's whatever the coach fancies.
And to me, I think, if

443
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.960
you're going to roll dice, your
roll dice and a kid that's already a

444
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.119
Division one player, So where did
that leave a great Jac Way No,

445
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.519
that's why he said, it's it's
gonna they're gonna be shut out more and

446
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.039
more, which is unfortunate. Uh. Jim, always good talking to you.

447
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.480
We love hearing from you. Oh, you guys are be fantastic.

448
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.559
I appreciate you. And hey,
November we got that tournament coming up,

449
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.720
and then December ten, we're doing
our second induction into the Pima College Hall

450
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.599
of Fame. So well, a
lot of people turn off of that.

451
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.119
Yeah, well we well we know
a couple of those guys there, we

452
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.279
do. Okay, Yeah, well
and there'll be a few more coming up

453
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.079
in two years. Okay, great, Thanks Jim, thanks so much,

454
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.240
guys. You guys are fantastic.
Appreciate jack Man, Thank you, Jim.

455
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.319
Monica always bubbly. I was very
very honest with us, right yeah,

456
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.880
I mean yeah, it is an
issue. I mean, these athletes

457
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.599
just don't have anywhere to go.
And that's a that's a tough thing.

458
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.039
I mean the they it was already
tough for junior college athletes, but now

459
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.079
it's it's even tougher because he's right. Are you gonna take a junior college

460
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.680
kids, You're gonna take the kill
from the group of five if it means

461
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.240
saving my job. I'm taking the
good guy, I mean the guy he's

462
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.680
got. Yeah, Okay, we're
gonna take our break. We'll be back.

463
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.880
Welcome. Look at his music.
We've got the bookman in the next

464
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hour, So stick around. We'll
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with Steve Ravera and Jay Gonzalez on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back

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Twining the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, you're Jay.

530
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We have about twelve minutes if you
guys want to give us a quick

531
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:13.360
call. Jay, just foy,
I I'm gonna rat gave bout get real

532
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:17.159
called yesterday and I gave him Greek
because I heard him on the post game

533
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.000
on Sunday Saturday Night ninety. I
said he can't be cheating on us calling

534
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:28.199
another stations. But he's fine.
He said he supports everybody. He's an

535
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:32.039
equal opportunity employer. Yeah, every
And we heard him on Justin's show a

536
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.320
few times. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know if he gets up in

537
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:40.360
the morning to do Justin show anymore. But I need Gabe's life. Whatever

538
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.519
that might go, we gotta call
give. I do have a life.

539
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.119
I have a good life. Well
take this call. He you're on the

540
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.960
R and I on the ball.
Hey, this is Bill. How you

541
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.559
doing Bill? What's up? Hey? I just I've been looking at your

542
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.840
picks this year for football. Please
don't And I just want you to say,

543
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.400
Jay that you're picking the Dodgers to
win the World Series, spoiling.

544
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.320
That's all I want. And then
I'll go, Well, here's the thing

545
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.360
I've got. I'm threatening people to
take that I'm going to take their teams,

546
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:08.960
right, I'm saying if you don't, if you don't leave me alone,

547
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:14.639
I'm gonna take your team. And
it seems to work well. Bill.

548
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.079
I want to hear you on the
radio say you're picking the Dodgers win

549
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.480
the World Series. You guys have
a great Bill Bill last week, So

550
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.360
he didn't do well last week because
we all know. And the first logic,

551
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:28.159
the first pick, he goes with
Utah and Oregon State. For the

552
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.559
reason why, the reason was because
I thought Utah would win, and so

553
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:36.679
I took Oregon State and that's the
only one I hit. So the double

554
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.599
reverse reverse doesn't work either. But
I will say Bill that for a while,

555
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.880
and not not just recently, but
even during the summer, I've been

556
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.920
saying that I don't think the Dodgers
are a World Series championship team, and

557
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.559
I don't know who's gonna beat the
Braves, So I'm taking the Braves.

558
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.840
Uh. Well, now they're all
right. I'm hoping. Thanks Bill,

559
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.239
it's you know, well, then
think about it with you. You've you've

560
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.280
embraced your curse. I am who
I am, I am who I am.

561
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.239
Don't don't don't touch me. And
if you say they good or bad

562
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.159
and there's lightning, don't even come
close to me. And I think of

563
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:15.039
the way I've lost some of these
games. Like I was telling you,

564
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.760
I you know, I had preside
stake and there was a backdoor cover on

565
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.639
on that game by Nevada with eleven
seconds left in the game. You know

566
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:30.199
you had that. You know,
I had the Broncos, who fell completely

567
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.199
behind, you know, they were
twenty eight to seven, come back win

568
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.880
the game, but don't cover by
two. I had the Eagles, didn't

569
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.760
you know, they didn't cover and
they didn't have the decency to also lose,

570
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.360
you know, I mean you think
you take the teams like the Eagles,

571
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.719
the Lions, Okay, the only
time they're three and one and the

572
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.599
only time that they're the only loss
they have as the time I took him.

573
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.440
Makes sense, It makes sense to
me, makes sense to me.

574
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.079
That's going on. Okay, I
want to get back to this because you

575
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.800
sounded so incredulous when I and I
said that. I thought, go,

576
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.679
I think Arizona, I would oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

577
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.039
I think you're smoking something. Probably
Hi, you're on there and on the

578
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.239
ball. I was it going today. What's up, Brian, This is

579
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.280
Steve Junior calling you. You're coming
my way. I like it. I

580
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.679
like it. Yeah, yeah,
you know it's pretty pathetic in my life.

581
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:28.599
Now, this is this is what
I have to look forward to.

582
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.719
Welcome to my world. Welcome to
my world. I want to hear what

583
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:39.320
I think. You know. I
was at the game and it's one of

584
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.039
those games here some there and go, well, at least we're not getting

585
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.000
blown out, right, I mean, we still got to figure out to

586
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.159
score a point in the first quarter, and I thought the defense played pretty

587
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.719
well. I would have thought I
would have liked to see more pressure on

588
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.119
the quarterback. Wouldn't been nice,
you know, I mean that guy just

589
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.519
I mean, he didn't have to
do much, you know, just a

590
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:06.400
lot of outpasses, short passes pretty
quick, you know, you know,

591
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:07.719
because we didn't put any pressure on
him. You know, he didn't have

592
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.920
to throw along. Well again,
if you if you heard, if you

593
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.000
heard that Fish's press conference on mistake, that was the plan. The plan

594
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.679
was to not let them beat them
deep, score quickly, make them earn

595
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.760
it, and make them make you
know, keep them underneath to keep their

596
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.400
point totally down to a point where
Arizona would have a chance to you know,

597
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.039
to outscore. They only gave up
thirty one points. They could have

598
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.760
won the game. They didn't because
Washington had the ball sold so much.

599
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.360
Yeah, we just well we could, you know. I mean, I

600
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.000
thought the quarterback did a pretty good
job. He made that one huge mistake

601
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.400
on the interception, right, you
should have just run the ball or just

602
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.079
taking gone down instead of trying to
force the ball, because he wound up

603
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.480
making them terrible pass. They got
the ball back, but they went off

604
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.400
six minutes off the clock. Yeah, and even though they didn't score,

605
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.079
but they ran six minutes off the
clock and I killed us. Yeah.

606
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:04.719
It was funny when when when fafited
through that pick, I fully expected to

607
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:09.559
see like Jaden Delora's like aura come
out of his body because that was a

608
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:15.039
Jaden. That was a bad Jaden
play. That was from the y Classic,

609
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.400
that was from the Jydon Delora collection. Yes, exactly, So let

610
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.880
me ask you what it was.
It was. It was a terrible call,

611
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.519
I mean on his part trying to
force that play. I mean he

612
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.840
was off balanced when he threw and
it was a terrible problem. Yeah,

613
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.480
you know, just real quick.
Did you listen earlier to the show.

614
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.639
Did you listen to Jay talk about
this weekend's game, this coming weekend?

615
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.519
Yeah? Jay on drugs again.
Well, well, thank you very much,

616
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.760
because that's perfect segment. I resent
the again part of that. Well

617
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.719
still it's still sorry. But but
every time you make a prediction, I'm

618
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:52.280
going day, did you hit your
head a lot of job? By the

619
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.960
way, it's not again, it's
still, it's still, He's continued.

620
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.079
So I'm sitting there, go okay, okay, USC had a great offense,

621
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.159
so we know that they don't have
a very good defense. We know

622
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.880
that, but I shall I don't
you know? It could be one of

623
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:14.079
those thirty nine thirty seven games.
Who knows. I'm gonna explain myself.

624
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.800
I'm gonna figure out how to score
early. Yeah, I'm gonna explain myself

625
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.480
behind on this team because we don't
have the offense to play catch up.

626
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.159
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna explain
myself. You're in the second hold when

627
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.280
we get to when when we when
we end this call, because I have

628
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:34.320
a very rational reason for this very
reasonable reason. That's not even you should

629
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.719
even use that word rational. We
should even that's that's a foul. That's

630
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:44.360
a fifty yard foul. Yeah,
that's an unsportunately one. Yes, well,

631
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.239
thank you Colin Man. By the
way, I did get your text

632
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.440
during the game, and I just
ghosted you. I just want you to

633
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.280
know that I did see Okay,
I just wasn't gonna respond to you.

634
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:57.400
Okay, we'll talk to you later. Bran, thank you, Bye,

635
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.840
Thanks Brian, thanks for being I'm
sure you feel good beating Steve for a

636
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.559
little bit. So okay, my
point, My point is I still believe

637
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.719
Washington is a much better team than
than USC. I think Washington's got a

638
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.840
better offense than USC, and they've
got a better defense than USC. So

639
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.599
I've based on what Arizona did.
I get it. We were saying that

640
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:21.920
Washington was gonna was gonna dictate the
score regard. You know, if Arizona

641
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.880
got close, they were gonna go
down there and score again. But I

642
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:30.320
just believe that USC's defense is so
bad that it gives anybody who's got any

643
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.440
kind of offense a chance to beat
them. On a given day, you

644
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.639
can go out there and outscore them. You know, if Colorado hadn't you

645
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.840
know, gotten so wasn't so bad
at the beginning of they win that game.

646
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:46.920
But the point, the point is
that you know, Colorado ended up

647
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:52.440
putting forty one points up on USC. That was that was garbage time,

648
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:57.800
and that was okay. So now
there was three minutes left. I owe

649
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:05.639
you a lunch for were the stupid
dumb ass bet I made at the beginning

650
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.280
of year with the Padres and the
Dodgers, Right, okay, so let

651
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.920
me get even with you. So
what do you want? What do you

652
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:15.840
want for the because you're predicting a
possible win, a possible win, not

653
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.440
a win. What do you need
for the u of a USC game?

654
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.559
What do you need? Yeah?
The spread? No, God, I

655
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.800
could go to I could go to
the Draft Kings and do that, and

656
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.360
I'm gonna take the fewer points.
Could you. You're sitting in front of

657
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:37.119
me saying that there's a possibility that
they could Someone someone said to me the

658
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.239
same thing you said to me two
days ago after on Sunday. I don't

659
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:40.920
know if you know him, but
he's a friend of mine. He says,

660
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.320
I'll take Arizona even Okay. No, I gave him ten. I

661
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.960
gave him ten for twenty one and
a half. Okay, I'll give you

662
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:57.880
back one of those fourteen and a
half I'll take. I'll give you I'll

663
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.519
give you thirteen and a half.
No I want Okay, let's go fourteen.

664
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.320
Okay, and if it pushes,
the push pushes and push. Okay,

665
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.280
okay, I'll give you fourteen.
All right, Okay, this is

666
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.400
stupid, but okay, because because
you don't be why, because I do

667
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.239
think Arizona is gonna give a game
I do. No. No, what's

668
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.840
the stupid part of it? Then
that I'm giving back points. That's dumb.

669
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.719
Oh, I wouldn't bet you otherwise
because you signed here. Okay,

670
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:22.719
okay, I'll do that. I
wouldn't do that. I don't think they're

671
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.360
gonna win. But I think what
you just said, there's a chance.

672
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:29.679
I said there's a chance. I
don't. I never said I think they're

673
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.480
gonna win. So I didn't say
that. I said I think they've got

674
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.079
a better chance of beating in US
Sea than they had a beating. Oh,

675
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:37.920
I don't think. I don't think. So they're on the road there,

676
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.079
I don't think. So. I
don't think. Man, my ten

677
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.800
point lead on you in this thing
that we're doing is my is my resume,

678
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:53.079
Sir. I hate fact, in
fact, your credibility is getting killed.

679
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.119
You know, I didn't, you
know, because of this wedding and

680
00:45:55.159 --> 00:46:00.800
stuff, I didn't bet on a
single football Lucky for you. Lucky for

681
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.679
you. I've told you I'm doing
really well on draft kings. I'm just

682
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.239
you know, but I'm not taking
the games I'm taking when I pick,

683
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:15.159
when I pick with you, I'm
taking other games. I'm gonna tear.

684
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.599
I don't know. I don't know
what it is. It's like, well,

685
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.559
we look forward to everything that I
think is gonna happen doesn't happen.

686
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.880
It's called the reaction Monday Tuesday.
I know, I know. I can't

687
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.239
believe it's already Tuesday. All right, Okay, cool, we're gonna have

688
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.440
you gonna have breaking news, right, yeah, I got some breaking news

689
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.960
stuff, stuff going on, a
lot of you know, a lot of

690
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.320
things happening right now. You know. Okay, we've got all this overlap,

691
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.199
right, we got the NBA about
to start, you got you got

692
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.599
Major League Baseball playoffs. You're very
barely really in the middle of I still

693
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.840
feel like the football season just started, but we're in the middle of the

694
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.679
right, Arizona's three and two.
You know, they're coming to the halfway

695
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.119
and they are thought, we're gonna
be exactly where we thought they were gonna

696
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.320
be recordized. There was a chance
to be used. Yeah, so you

697
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.320
know, we'll see what. Look, USC's gonna lose to somebody that they

698
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.840
shouldn't lose too, because that's because
their defense is gonna is gonna fail them

699
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.440
completely. Possibly, well who's we'll
talk about that later because we don't know

700
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.679
who the I really. You know, they just they they do not look

701
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:22.039
like a a national championship team to
be. They just don't because they they

702
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.920
don't have the defense that they're gonna
need to do that. Somebody's gonna abuse

703
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.800
them. A good team, we'll
abuse them. All right, Let's take

704
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:31.559
our break. We're gona be back
breaking news here at the top of the

705
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.719
hour, and then we're gonna have
South booklet finish. We'll talk some sons.

706
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:39.280
Maybe it's some Dimond back fook.
We'll stick around. Hold