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Mmm. Hello, it is April
twelve, twenty sixteen. You are listening

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to the Giant Bomb cast. Dan
record is back. Hey, I am

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Jason's doing finger air drumming and we
do things over there, presumably in celebration

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of day to return. Yeah,
get a little little She's texted me the

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whole time I was in Dallas.
Yeah, but you missed me. I

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couldn't go on without you. Yeah. Yeah, we need him happening to

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do his job. So you're back. Oh okay, so the things can

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continue. Hello Jeff, Hello,
what's going on? I do you taxes?

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If you haven't done? I know, just talking to my financial guy

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about what are you doing tonight?
Do your taxes? He said, what

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you haven't done it yet? No? Oh my god, I've got the

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envelope sitting on my desk and opened. Yeah, that's actually our plans tonight.

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Oh yeah, it's actually my wife's
plans tonight. My plan is to

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watch baby and try and catch you
fighter. But who do you think is

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Jeff? If you want to come
over, maybe she could do your taxes

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too. Who do you think might
have done? I got my done.

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Yeah, it's the first time in
years that I've been able to do them

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ahead of the actual do date.
Wow, on account of some accounting complexities

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in the previous years that are not
worth actually getting into. But boy,

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taxes, I would say, Brad, you am I right. You got

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caught up in some of that in
the US past, Well I did so

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this year the first just returned to
splendor. Working working for startups is weird.

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Yeah. Yeah, selling a company
stuff follow you around, even if

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you don't, even if none of
that actually turns into money in your pocket,

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at some point turns into a fucking
nightmare. Anyway, I was expecting

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to get a nice return and I
wound up having to pay six thousand dollars.

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Wow, at once, somebody.
That's a terrible feeling. Somebody's fucked

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up your withholding. I think no, So I think I did it right.

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I just well, you've got you've
got weird side revenue stream, that's

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what did it. Yeah, at
some point you got to pay the pipe.

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I thought that Amazon took that out
or something, but apparently they took

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zero of it out, and so
I had to be here's six thousand dollars.

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Yeah, the cost of a green
lime sign versus six thousand dollars.

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I don't know, Dan, I
don't know if that was a smart move.

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What your self promotion? You're the
air force that'd me winning a wallauigi

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ambo. Oh okay, yeah,
I believe that's an important one. Oh

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okay, yeah, yeah, I
got the Doctor track Suit sign was my

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favorite prob. Yeah that was that
now, Yeah that that that sign somehow

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made it back from from Texas.
I met those guys and bought them beers

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and they gave me the signs.
So it's a fantastic sign. It's really

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well, mate, we will we
will show it to Doctor track Suit at

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some point if yeah, if he
ever resurfaces. Yeah, Jason, who

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was getting the better end of the
deal between between watching the bay Maybe I'm

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doing taxes. I think I'm getting
the better. Yeah, he's super cute.

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That's a lot of fun. Like
he's yeah, he's got new voices.

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So he did that shrieking thing for
a long time, but now he's

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moved just to like more of a
guttural I'm gonna murder you scream cool,

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and it's just constant. But he's
got a smile on his face the entire

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time. So so what's the emotion
that he's conveying just pure joy. Oh,

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we got him a bouncer and he
is just constantly in motion with that

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thing. So he's either he's just
like a hardcore band front man. I

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think he picked it up from like
Cookie Monster or something like that. Yeah,

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most of them the most famous of
darkcore bands. Yeah, I love

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Quick Monsters. But yeah, he'sh
two voices voice of voice of an angel.

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Is it good shrinking or is it
like I'm I'm upset? Baby,

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I'm happy, okay, happy shrinking? That sounds fun, sounds like he's

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having a good time. He is, he totally is I am too?

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Oh I had a bouncer. Yeah, yeah, I probably make noises like

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that. There's three like bungee cords
and stuff. There's fucking activities all around

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you. Three sixty degree motion in
this seat. You can just turn around

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and have a brand new fucking activity. But you can spin. You want

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to fucking play with a chameleon?
Yes, it's over here to your right.

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You want to twirl the sun around? Let's tell ninety degrees to the

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right that have one of those abicus
things on it. Uh No, this

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this sounds like any number of VR
experience is not available. I would take

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this far far quicker than of r
VR baby bouncer. I want it.

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Yeah, you know what, fuck
that, let's go all the way.

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I want VR womb simulator. Oh, now you're telling Berthed, I didn't

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know you wanted to get into VR
this early in the podcast. All right,

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let's being birthed is the tragic,
But that's gotta be part of it.

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Tragic end, tragic conclusion of a
thing. That's the end. You

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want to return and stay there,
unhappy ending, bad end, real time

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nine months simulation. Yeah, it's
not enough time. Ten months at least,

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Go deep. That's the tagline,
right now, Go deep. That's

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the different our experience right there.
This's got really uncomfortable. Just let's move

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on. Except I spent some time
watching VR porn this weekend. Really really

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well, how did that come to
be? I went to this podcast thinking,

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all right, we're not gonna for
the first time like a month,

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we're not going to talk about VR. But I feel okay about where this

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VR discussion is going. Yeah.
So it was something that was happening in

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Slack on like Friday. You guys
were talking about something about r VR porn

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and should we do something with it. Is there something to do with that?

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We feel like were just like,
you know, just should be someone

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someone balling. I received an interview
solicitation, Yeah yeah, for a major

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proprietor of of pornograph adult entertainment of
VR and otherwise asking if we wanted to

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speak with the CIO of this company
thinking around given demos or something like that.

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Yeah, so I don't know what
that that That seems weird that a

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little Yeah, I don't. I
don't know that you need to talk to

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like the guy from the website because
it's just they're just videos. There's just

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three sixty videos. Like you could
either have Paul McCartney and you get to

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stand next to his piano or you
get to see some real crazy three D

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business at the end of these scenes. Why not wait, three D business

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like they're polygonal people. No,
no, no, no, no,

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it's just it's three D video,
Okay, three D A like one eighty

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Is it like point of view kind
of stuff or there are actually like there

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are both. So it's one of
those things where like the videos have to

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be offered in multiple formats to accommodate
things like oh well, for the gear

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VR we've produced this lower quality thing. And if you want to hire res

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video then for the Oculus, it's
this is for Vibe, it's you know,

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for for that, and yeah,
so it's it's there are some three

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sixty ones, there are some one
eighty ones. Yeah, it's kind of

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just depends on what you're looking for. So I did not sign up for

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any site. So it's kind of
like looked at some preview videos that they

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had posted to get a sense for
like what this even is, and and

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kind of see it for myself.
Uh, and it is exactly what you

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think it is. I mean,
it's it's instead of like the head it's

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you are there with the camera instead
of a headless driver in Project cars,

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it's a headless nudeman. So it's
like a point of view video. It's

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it is exactly that. It is
exactly that, okay, And just but

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you can look around and it's in
three D. If with all the wonderment

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and weirdness that that brings. It's
very juttery, okay, which is when

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you like when you move your head
around or no, no, just playback

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is not playback's not smooth, and
my experience was not super smooth and these

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are examples from a few different sites
and it was streaming right No, no,

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no, these were download downloadable sample
still yeah, yeah, yeah,

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like just the frame rate just wasn't
there or something. I don't know,

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but it's not up to the you
know, usual quality of No, no,

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not really, it's you know,
and and not up to the quality

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of other VR experiences and all this
other stuff. But I don't know.

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It's one of those things where it's
like you look at it and it's you

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know, these are all traditional porn
sites that are for the most part,

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there's there's one that that is kind
of specializing in this sort of stuff.

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But it's been weird, you know. It's it's weird because they all you

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know, have the typical kind of
porn site monthly process of like, hey

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give us twenty five bucks a month
and you'll get access to eighty sites that

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we all own and they're all the
same stuff anyway, And so like the

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VR stuff though, it's been happening
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so we're you know, like a
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There's not a ton there are not
there's not an abundance of available content,

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right now do the tube sites have
sections like if you go to like

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porn hub or something to do like
a VR tab. Yeah, and yeah,

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but in those in those cases,
that would be you full screening a

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streaming video and then putting on the
heavy video putting on Yeah, well,

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I mean it's a side by side
three D. Oh it's still three D.

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Yeah, it's still three D,
but it doesn't it's a streaming resolution.

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But you can still move. Even
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videos. It's how it's displayed in
the headset, whether it's sphere or don't.

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So it turns out this is the
actual use for that virtual desktop soft

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where I mean you could use it
just top in the sky, but it

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all it is also a very effective
three D video player for that stuff.

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And yeah, so like like watching
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rate, it's fascinating because it's like, like, for as much as like

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VR has this like dream like non
real quality to it, seeing actual humans

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moving in a sex like manner,
sex like at a at a like with

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this weird kind of jittery kind of
movement and stuff, it's just it makes

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the whole thing feel like a like
a television show that is doing a sci

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fi storyline about like the injected porn
into their memories to get off, and

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like these are the flashes they show
when they're showing the guy as he's dying

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or something like. It's that kind
of like dream like a theory like not

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ethereal. It's it's weird, like
it's fucked up looking. It looks fucked

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up in a way that is like
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I did. It's one of the
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wonder if maybe like these are just
older videos that are being produced that that

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you know, they haven't really spent
into the high frame rate, the you

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know whatever they need to like alleviate
those problems. These could just be like

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left over three D videos at the
shot from from like the original three D

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Craze. No, well, I
mean I suppose that's possible, and I

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don't. I don't think that's the
I think it's stuff they shot for VR,

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but it's maybe they're just not spending
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the rate that they could be.
Because the stuff that like Jaunts, the

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Jaunt video app that's in the Oculus
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Like the quality of those, you
know, it was a streaming video,

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so like the the image resolution was
weird, but the movement all seemed fine,

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whereas all of these scenes that I
downloaded from their preview section and stuff

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like that, like they all just
seemed a little off. So it bits

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surreal. I mean, obviously it's
not gonna, you know, give you

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a real life experience. Also,
the sense of scale was way off in

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some of them where it was just
like no, well where it was just

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like everything is huge. Is this
woman nine feet tall? What is happening?

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Like that's my kink? It's like
yeah, no, totally right,

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yeah, and then some of it
looked like super tiny. It was just

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like what what's going on? Like
just the sense of scale is very like

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seems to vary a lot from video
to videos. So you know, I

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me and and that's you know,
they're handful sights and these are just the

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I didn't I didn't go pay them
the twenty five bucks a month or whatever

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to download the nine scenes they have
or whatever it is, or you know

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forty in some cases, like they
but they didn't have a ton of it.

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Well, I mean, it's a
hot and budding technology totally in a

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little while to get there. But
man, I mean, you know,

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and every single one of them is
like like pushing v R hardware hard in

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terms of just like sign for this
stuff. We will send you this device

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that you put your phone into,
and so they're they're all selling Google cardboard

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style or they're all like hey,
sign up and we'll send you one for

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free. Sign up and we'll give
you one for twenty bucks, or just

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one of the cheap things that you
can like yeah, just amount your amount

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any phone in and you can watch
the videos. Like that's that's the primary

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means for this stuff. And then
some of them have like Oculus stuff,

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but a lot of that, you
know, their instructions are written for like

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DK two and stuff like that,
so they have not necessarily gotten up to

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supeed with like you know, consumer
Oculus and Vibe and stuff like that.

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That's interesting, yeah, because important
such a huge industry. Like I really

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think that it helped push like the
DVD market and totally yeah. I mean

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you even hear about like you know, the vhs totally yeah, Like they

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are basically I think the deciding factor
like yeah, if history is taught as

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anything. It's the adult industry will
figure out what to do with this stuff

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one way or the other. Yeah, right now we're early days. Uh

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yeah, I don't know. It's
weird putting, the putting, the like

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the hop horn angle aside, the
like Okay, take the best three sixty

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video that you watched, Yeah,
does that seem cool? It's like it's

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novel. Is there is there like
a good use for a video that you

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can turn your head around and look
around it. It's very novel. But

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I wouldn't say it was something where
I felt like, oh man, this

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is the only way I want,
Like even the idea of like you know

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they have the video projectors that will
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and uh and that sort of stuff. It's I don't know, Like,

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you know, I kind of I
said something on Twitter or something a while

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back saying like I don't understand why
anyone would ever want to do that because

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I had done it and came away
from the experience going absolutely not, And

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then a lot of people who had
not done it were like, no way,

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man, I'll totally do it.
It's like because because I have a

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shitty TV and it's like no,
try Like, look, if you have

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a TV that's capable of running modern
console games, the image quality is going

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to be sharper there than it is
in any headset. So the idea of

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like, you know, you you
would have to be really hard up to

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play a video game immediately to want
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two D screen inside of VR,
because I think the resolution, and more

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importantly, like the way the image
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vision just makes that unpleasant. Like
that's not a good way to do any

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of this stuff, I think.
And again I think it's very novel.

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I think it's really fascinating. And
if you could have like multiple users in

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a single space watching a movie together
and interacting and you know, doing whatever,

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I think that would be potentially interesting. And three D video into like

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three sixty video and stuff like that, like you know, whatever, there's

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there will probably be some cool uses
of that. I mean, whatever,

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there are cool uses of that,
like the stuff that's in Jaunt, the

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stuff the I mean, even the
porn. To a certain extent, You're

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like, this is fascinating. And
there was one three sixty scene where they

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had like multiple performers in it,
and one of them is doing stuff to

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the character that your head is attached
to. And then there are two people

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off of the side, and then
you turn around and there's just a lady

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back there, just just doing whatever
by yourself, like a little egg you

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never known around it's going on back
there, there's a yeah, there's there's

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a bunch of weird stuff like that. And and I don't know, like

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everyone is kind of going to explore
that space and hit on like what the

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things are that make that stuff work? But it's it's it's very novel,

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but like no thanks. Like the
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of overall seems like something you do
a couple of times and go like all

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right, it's about what you do
with that video, I think more importantly

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than like or peripherals. I guess
like oh sure, sure, yeah,

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maybe someone could make use of the
vibe controllers. It's teldonics. It's gonna

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be it's already huge, it's gonna
be huger. That's where I can actually

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get up and like go hide in
the closet. Yeah, there's something,

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yeah, I mean, and and
I don't know if I don't know what

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technology would even be required to let
you walk around a video That actually sounds

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impossible, But I don't know.
But that's the thing is, like you

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know, because I mean the Star
Trek Technical Manual did its fair point tenty

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years ago. Yeah. Yeah,
so the video stuff is really it's it's

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really novel. But you know,
you see all these people going like,

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oh, we're doing basketball games and
VR. Yeah, like live live events

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sounds still sounds like the thing to
me that that would be useful for.

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and how good they are in terms of

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like it would be a different style
of watching the thing though, yes,

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it would be for people who want
to feel like they're there or like see

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it from that perspective. Yeah,
but you know it's you don't how much

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time do you need to like turn
around and go, wow, there's a

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crowd of people behind me. That's
all who everyone was because that that's the

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whole thing is like, well I'm
in three sixty three D I'm gonna look

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around do this twelve Yeah, but
and you know, like the crowd's going

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to be playing too that camera like
whoever's sitting around there like they wants them

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I think to be sitting in there
like the crowd, like being there and

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experience it. Yeah, I have
to assume they wouldn't trine that thing so

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that people couldn't fuck with it,
but not fuck with it, but just

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like I don't know, maybe they
look at it. Yeah, sure,

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yeah, maybe they maybe they sit
a bunch of people around it to be

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characters. They had that thing in
the store where you could like be on

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the ramp for Jimmy and Jay Usso's
entrance or whatever. Finally, and I

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did that, and it's like,
man, this isn't now I would watch

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raw, I don't think no,
or even like I wouldn't even like flip

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to it for the entrance or whatever. Right, it didn't seem great.

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the technology will get better, like
at some point those screens do get sharp

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enough to where that's like valuable and
interesting. But I think where it is

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right now, it just doesn't make
a lot of sense. Yeah, and

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you know whatever, I mean,
you know, the porn stuff. People

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have needs, and if their needs
happen to include three D first person action,

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it's there for them. I don't
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but it's early days. It's early
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well, we'll keep an eye on
it. It seemed cool in Time

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Cop. Yeah porn. Yeah,
I thought it was really good in like

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Star Wars Christmas Special they had VR
porn in that. Yeah, totally.

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Okay. What I remember that in
Time Cop because I watched it when I

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was like ten, and then it
went to a VR porn thing and then

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I had to turn it off because
as afraid my mom was gonna walk in.

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Grandpa Wookie just like sat down on
his lazy boy, scrapped down the

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VR helmet and there was like a
dancing lady and okay, actually real,

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I've never actually sat down and watched
that thing. It's really bad. Ye

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seen enough clips for him and to
know like all right, yeah I get

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it. Yeah, there was people
like this, ironically, that's cool dancing

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ladies. Yeah, exciting. All
right, Well, we kept our VR

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talk to a minium this week.
We could keep going. No, not

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good, Okay, I think we're
good. Let's talk about the regular video

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games. Know of a couple yeah
that are going on right now, such

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as who has brought something for the
class street fighting. Real Quick played in

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the teament No Real Quick sorry.
Played in a community tournament this past weekend.

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That was super awesome. Yeah,
playing with the members of the our

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community. Yeah, okay, yeah
exactly, which was tough because you know,

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that's the time that I watched the
baby and so he was like in

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happy shriek hype mode, like while
I was trying to play, Baby's just

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getting hype. But yeah, stuffing
wrong with that. Yeah, But and

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then he like zonked out immediately after
I was done. But I did all

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right, lost my first one.
They got through the next three or so,

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and then lost the second one.
Yeah. There's If there's anything I

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could tell you from the community StarCraft
tournaments that used to happen, it's that

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the community is way more savage than
you ever expect. Yeah. Yeah,

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there was some you get in there, but yeah, it just some of

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it. Like it was a worldwide
thing, so you're playing against people in

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the UK, and unfortunately, you
know, with the GGPO stuff, it's

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hit or miss, like you know
sometimes like my connection seemed great with this

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one guy, Hassan actually, and
he had just a terrible laggy fucking experience,

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like I was, you know,
just jumping around the screen and uh

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so that sucked for him. You
thought you were bodying him. Yeah,

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I'm like, fuck, yeah,
I got this guy's number. Man.

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But as it turns out, yeah, I was just a yeah shake lagging

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on somebody's part. Yeah, that's
the that's the job, actually the GGPO

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stuff. But no, that was
that was That was a good time school.

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Yeah. I like playing in the
tournament format and against you know,

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real dudes and stuff. I'm sure
I'm sure that the lobbies helped facilitate.

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yeah, everything was great. It
went by in like an hour, you

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know, it was over really quick. Yeah, they were, they were

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on the game. Excellent. Cool. Cool, all right, Dan,

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you haven't been here in two weeks. Yeah, it's good to play video

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games again. We can talk about
them. Yeah, I'm wrestled out.

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I'm ready to get back to video
good Yeah hit mee uh okay, well,

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you know, keeping with the hottest
new games, I've been playing a

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lot of Soul Caliber one, Soul
Caliber two, and I just bought soul

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Caliber five again to lease. Okay, no I want to hear Yeah,

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No, let's talk about wrestling instead. Okay, definitely more interesting than anything

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soul Caliber has done. Pas soul
Caliber one, Why are you were all

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good? Why are you playing so
much soul Caliber? Oh? My girlfriend

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and I realized we both played the
first one a ton and two a ton,

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so it's backwards compatible. One and
two are yeah, And so I

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bought that HD online one that was
on through sixty that's now backwards compatible and

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it has hey hotchi and spawn no
link. Yes, I can't play online,

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it seems, but we just do
survival and team battle and stuff.

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So I've been playing a ton of
that, and she hadn't played five,

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So I just bought it on eBay. And I remember that one being pretty

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good. Five is the most recent
one, right, well, if you

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don't count that like free to play
thing that nobody? God, that's right,

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that did happen? Didn't it come
out on p S three? I

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think that one's gone now too.
They've since shut it down. I remember

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looking at the tech and free to
play thing, right, but man,

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I have no recollection of their being
Yeah namco, man, they got out

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there and tried some ship. Yeah
was that console only? That was PfP

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three only? And I guess.
I never played it, but I read

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that it had in like terrible load
times was getting you know, all four

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reviews across the board. I'll have
to you know, free to play stuff

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that didn't seem great. So course
remember a lot of it being kind of

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a mess. Yeah, yeah,
but that was a while ago. Yeah,

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it makes me one day, so
Caliber six pretty bad before to playing

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five agame because I remember liking that
one. But yeah, that's a great

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series. Outside of that, new
games I played star Fox zero can't give

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full impressions of it yet, can
you say? I can say my thoughts

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about that from what I played at
E three, and my concerns based on

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all the marketing and everything are founded. And it makes me wonder how good

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Star Fox ever was. Wow,
Because I'll say it. You can tell

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even just looking at you know,
the videos and stuff that are out now.

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It is the most like Star Fox
sixty four out of any star Fox

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since sixty four, which is what
I thought. I wanted. Let's run

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that, Okay, Let's run.
There was Adventure ye, and then Adventures

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which was the Zelda like one that
had any r wings basically a third person

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at Adventure Yes. And then there
was Assault on the GameCube, which they

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were like, Okay, it's gonna
go back to like the R wing stuff

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that you wanted, but then had
a ton of like kind of open map

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tank slash on foot stuff and so
there's only like a handful of R wing

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missions and whatever one wants is the
R wing linear missions that occasionally you know,

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it's an all range mode and you
know boss fights or star wolf fights

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or whatever. And yeah, that
game kee won. The second one screwed

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it up by just having way too
much on foot stuff that sucked. And

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then there was Star Fox Command.
Command was on, which that one felt

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kind of sold this and it was
a lot of just like you know,

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plotting out your teammates and strategy stuff
like on the touchpad, and it was

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our wing focus. But if I
remember right, it was all kind of

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like arena stuff like flying around.
It did not it didn't really have a

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campaign, if I remember, not
much of a story, not much of

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one at all. And then I
think there's there's yeah, yeah, Command

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was the one DS one, I
guess, and then they did Star Fox

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sixty four three, which that's just
the remake. Uh, but yeah,

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this one kind of a checkered history
for star Fox. I mean, yeah,

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since this is the un sixty four
yeah, and it's it's there's one

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good star Fox game and it was
the first star The star Fox six four

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is the best one. Oh my
god. I like sixty four a lot

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when it came Great. It's the
train one with the tank that I remember

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being so bummed out by that game
showing up. That is like a Mario

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Kart level of like office going,
wait, what the fuck is this?

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What was what was it? Okay, all right, I'll buy what was

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wrong with it? I don't remember
Star Fox. I was in school when

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that game came out, so it
was you could finish it in like two

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hours, and it was like one
of those things where it's like a bunch

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of branching path stuff, but none
of that felt worth doing. It was

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just like, well, just present
me the game instead of just like,

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oh, well, welcome to star
Fox zero. Yeah. Well yeah,

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yeah, so it's it's kind of
yeah. That was my major thing with

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it, is it just like it
for game Other games were coming out in

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that era and stuff like that.
It felt very slight. And also I

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just didn't really care for the multiplayer
in it. Oh yeah, no,

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one did, so I remember that
being the big hook. No people were

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like, oh, I didn't know
any I was in like junior high,

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and no one cared about the multiplayer
like everyone hated that. Really Okay,

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I just thought that was the thing
that like fans of that game latched onto,

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because I can't imagine them latching onto
the single player stuff. No.

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I mean there was like novelty,
like I think you could unlock like on

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footstep for multiplayer and that's if you
got a certain amount of medals or something

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and then but it was not good. But yeah, it was the campaign

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that I liked, And yes it
was slight, and but but I remember

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really wanting to go back and play
all those and find all the secret paths

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00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.160
and yeah, we get a number
of hits for all the metals and all

408
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:15.359
that stuff and go the hard route
to the andross and everything. Man,

409
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.359
but if you felt that was slight
in ninety seven, uh, this is

410
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:26.119
sixty dollars and twenty sixteen, and
it is very comparable. You know.

411
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.839
I can't go into like super specifics
and stuff like the in fights and all

412
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:33.200
that stuff. But man, so
we'll have a review soon. Yeah,

413
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.680
it's closer to launch, but it's
so much like sixty four and even if

414
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.680
you strip away my concerns with the
game pad stuff, which was my initial

415
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.440
concern. Yeah, uh, there's
not a lot there. It's a sixty

416
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:52.240
dollars game and turn your R wing
into a chicken. Yeah you can do

417
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.240
that, counterpoint? All right.
Yeah, so I think I'm done,

418
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:56.920
Like this is what I think I
was asking for for so long, a

419
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.720
Starbucks, and I think now it's
like, ah, I don't even know.

420
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.000
I don't know what I want,
if anything from that series anymore.

421
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.960
So all right, that's I think
I'm done with Starbucks. I'll you know,

422
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.559
play asm and Smash Brothers every once
in a while and Ambos. I

423
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.480
remember I remember being really excited about
Star Fox two before that came out,

424
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.200
oh right before the Superintendo One,
because it was just like, you know,

425
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.759
look great, I don't I just
like that look Like as they added

426
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.559
graphical fidelity to Star Fox, I
think I liked the universe a lot less.

427
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:26.759
Okay, it was just like,
oh, lar wings are just a

428
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.839
space ship. Huh, what's seeing
the polygonal look? No? I know

429
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.440
that they have an unlockable and then
you have the Fox amibo. No,

430
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.480
Okay, I have two of them, and if you tap it on the

431
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.960
thing, you turn into the Super
Nintendo and that doesn't help. That doesn't

432
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.559
helps. Too late makes sound effects
and everything that's kind of neff and you're

433
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.680
with you kind of cool right there
on the disc. Yeah, yeah,

434
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:49.880
yeah, I don't know, man. Star Fox just always seemed like this

435
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.160
really crazy, Like when that first
game came out, it felt like magic.

436
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.599
You were just like, why would
a Supernintendo even be able to do

437
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.119
this? And when you remove it
from that kind of like what wizard rehappened

438
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.799
to make this game and just say
like, oh, we made a space

439
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.680
shooting game, which is what it
was. Every game past that since Star

440
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.160
Fox two got canceled. Uh,
it's it's way less interesting. I don't

441
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.319
know. Yeah, it just it's
just never never grabbed me at all.

442
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:17.640
Yep, Yeah, I'm but a
man. Star Fox one is an awesome

443
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.680
fucking game, really cool. Holy
shit, it's sixty four so similar in

444
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.880
the way it's formatted, like one
had the branching paths and yeah, but

445
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.839
it was novel at that point.
It was you know again like that that

446
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.160
that whole game was novel at that
point. Yeah, you know, it's

447
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.640
like even the talking animals and stuff. You were like, oh man,

448
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.880
cool and sixty four and Ross just
turned into a brain and eyeballs if you

449
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.160
do it right. And then I
walked back past your desk and literally a

450
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.160
fucking frog popped up on the screen
and said, do a barrel ron.

451
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.880
It was the rabbit. It's Peppy
that says do a barrel roll. But

452
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.440
yes he does say that again.
Well okay, that'll still It's just like,

453
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.119
huh all right, to keep our
lower straight please. Yeah. Yeah.

454
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.759
Outside of that, uh, Jeff, I know we're probably both around

455
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.319
the same amount into the new Ratchett
and Clank, Yes, which a new

456
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:02.759
old new Clank. Yeah, the
street Fighter, the movie the Ratchet.

457
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.839
Yeah, yeah, totally. It
seems real cool. And I realized that,

458
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.319
you know, the last full Ratchet
and Clank was that I think was

459
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.359
it a cracking time like probably like
twenty ten, twenty eleven one with all

460
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.599
those cool little puzzles. I just
I did not like the PS three Ratchet

461
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.319
games one bit. See, I
like total of destruction and cracking time,

462
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.720
and even like Ratchet three at that
point, like the third Rater Arsenal,

463
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.599
that's the best one it's it's yeah. But at that point, like I

464
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.160
had played two of them, and
so it was just like by the time

465
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.039
they got three, which is where
they really started making changes, because two

466
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:36.039
was a lot like one. Okay, I just had a different hood color.

467
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.240
It was like, oh, this
one's red. I think I came

468
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.519
in perfectly to that series because it
was like the early days of college and

469
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.000
in high school when the first two
were coming out, and it was like,

470
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.440
I'm too old for this. This
is like my little sister plays this

471
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.279
game, yeah, and she loved
it. Where's my Pokemon stadium we got

472
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.920
exactly Yeah, So I thought I
was like too old for this kiddie game

473
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.759
or whatever. And then the third
one came out and I remember like ign

474
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.160
or something gave it a nine point
eight, and I was like, wait,

475
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:00.640
really, like are these few really
good games? I was like fuck

476
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.079
it, I'll just I'll just go
buy up your Arsenal and I did.

477
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.240
It. Turns out it's really great, totally like probably the peak of the

478
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.519
series. In a lot of ways. It was kind of where I like

479
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.599
became less interested in it because it
was the third one. It was just

480
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:17.200
favor one. But also like in
terms of like refining the game and giving

481
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.200
you a lot of options and stuff
like like three is probably the creative peak.

482
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:22.759
Yeah, I remember all the weapons
were awesome, like the level up

483
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.680
stuff seems to stand. That was
that was where they really got into to

484
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.000
that aspect of it. I think
it was just one of those things where

485
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.440
it's like, you know, having
played through two tales of Lombacks and Robot

486
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.359
Man, by the time of Third
World around, like, you know,

487
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.599
the jokes did not his horror,
the story was not as interesting, you

488
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:41.440
know. Yeah, for me,
I think it was. It was more

489
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.880
like I like the writing and the
comedy in those games. I think they

490
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.359
work. But for me, it
was more about the weapons and like the

491
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.200
action, like it was those games
were so much more action heavy than I

492
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.759
expected before I played him. I
thought it was more kind of Jack and

493
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.039
the extra platform me. But man, there's just a lot of shooting and

494
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.920
that I feel like they got better, you know, maybe, well they

495
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.839
got a lot better at just saying
like here, make sure, you know,

496
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.480
make sure the player knows that there's
AMMO everywhere. Yeah, yeah,

497
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:08.640
so that you don't fall into this
trap of saving all your AMMO and just

498
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.720
using the wrench because I probably played
through most of the first game just using

499
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:18.480
the rent like just in case,
Just in case, man. But yeah,

500
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.000
they by the time they got to
around three, they probably probably got

501
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.640
a lot better at conveying that sort
of stuff to the player, and that

502
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.279
was always very rewarded. And blast
everything apart with these dumb ass weapons.

503
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.640
Yeah, and there's just eight thousand
boxes everywhere in constant bolts just flying at

504
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.359
your friend. Yeah. So,
so by not liking those games or kind

505
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.920
of just like being over them for
a good chunk of time, like this

506
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.599
new one, this this remake,
this reboot is actually pretty cool. Yeah,

507
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.480
like level it's like a remake of
the first one. Yeah, it's

508
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.119
it's so it's it's not a full
remake, it is it is. It

509
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.759
is based it is based on the
movie, which is based on the events

510
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.920
of the first game. Okay,
so the movie is basically a retelling of

511
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.200
the Ratchet and Clank or story,
and then they made a game based on

512
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.240
it, and then the game goes
out of its way to let you know

513
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.240
that it knows that. Yeah.
So like right out of the box,

514
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.119
there's you know, like, yeah, you're running into a guy who was

515
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.519
just like if I met you before, and he's like, see you in

516
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.240
the next reboot, you know it
jokes that were like you get a lot

517
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.599
of like Ratchet just looking around on
what yeah, all right, well whatever,

518
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.960
and like Captain Quark being confused by
it. But like I know,

519
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.039
I think it was the Hall of
Film. But then there was the disc

520
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.799
that yeah right right yeah, and
that actually is the framing device for the

521
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.319
story. Is it's Captain Quark kind
of retelling the events to someone, which

522
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.079
I don't know. Captain Quark is
actually like kind of my least favorite part

523
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.400
of the franchise, but whatever,
it's I think it works well enough here

524
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.400
and gives them an out for when
they want to deviate from what the first

525
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.559
game was. Uh, it gives
them gives them like a narrative out for

526
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.519
that stuff too. It looks really
nice. Yeah, it seems to be

527
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.640
running it out thirty probably just like
image quality in terms of just like the

528
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.640
character looks awfully nice. Like it's
it's a good looking game. So I

529
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.319
was reading that the people making the
movie and Insomnia, we're trading assets back

530
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:06.400
and forth, so like they would
make the three D like the CGI model

531
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.319
for the movie and send it over
and they would tweak it to make an

532
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.079
anime better in the game, and
they were sharing this so there'd be parody

533
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.160
between the movie and the game,
which all sounds really cool. It sounds

534
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.079
like they're probably doing this right as
far as the movie and game. Stuff.

535
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.000
Like the trailer got really good reactions. Yeah, so I'm actually curious

536
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.720
to see it, you know,
I'm never really there's a pacing to the

537
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.039
dialogue and stuff in this that,
like the comedy works, yeah, because

538
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.440
it's it's it's well timed, it's
well paced, like all the stuff that

539
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.799
you kind of need to make that
stuff work works and and that's really hard

540
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:38.920
for games to get right, and
a lot of them don't. So you

541
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.079
know, like you gotta give all
the credit in the world for that,

542
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:46.200
because that's stuffs. That stuff's real
hard. But I completely forgot that there

543
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.160
was a Ratchet Clank movie even coming
out, yeah, like this month,

544
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.119
which is crazy. Yeah, they
delayed the game or both of them so

545
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.599
they could like come out around the
same time. So yeah, I don't.

546
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.839
I remember seeing this game running for
the first time back at the play

547
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.119
station Experience, and I was just
kind of walking past and like Ratchet whatever,

548
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.039
and then I actually stopped for a
seconde actually, holy shit, Like

549
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.640
yeah, like when you really look
at these environments and stuff like that,

550
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.519
like like compared to what Ratchet has
looked like, and also just like this

551
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.400
actually looks pretty fucking good. Yeah, there's some stuff about the shooting that

552
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.759
I don't love, but whatever.
Yeah. I like the new upgrade system

553
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.960
for the guns, like where it's
got this kind of branching like sphere grid

554
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.920
type thing, and once you encompass
these question mark ones, you get kind

555
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.920
of these bonus upgrades and you don't
know him until you get him. And

556
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.559
yeah, I think I'm excited for
this one because like they put out Quest

557
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.880
for Booty, and I think there
might have been one other one that was

558
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.640
just like this downloadable smaller Ratchet game. It wasn't Quest for Booty, the

559
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.079
downloadable one. Yeah, that was
the one MPs three. I can't remember

560
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.640
if they made another one past that, but Question for Booty I think was

561
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.759
the most recent one. I thought
Cracket Time came after Quest for Booty.

562
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.400
Wasn't Quest for Booty DLC four Tools
of Destructions was what was the Tower Defense

563
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.039
one? Oh? That was are
you thinking? Locked? That was?

564
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.400
That was before that that was that
was a weird period in Ratchet history,

565
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.839
and that was a dark, dark
bit that was that was been the console

566
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.680
like like, well, let's get
one more of these out. That was

567
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.320
between after Arsenal and Tools of Destruction. Oh right, probably late PS two

568
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:13.400
even I think, and then there
was old Agent Clang for PSP and PS

569
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.480
two they did. They did that
Ratchet all for one game, right,

570
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.000
Ratchet has been all over the place. Yeah, like there hasn't been a

571
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.119
full one since a cracking time.
They made some mistakes along the way there,

572
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.440
but at the same time, like
man, you know, like main

573
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:30.719
Burbank and Zombiac like kind of you
know, here and there with different stuff,

574
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.280
and like meanwhile, the other Insomnia, right, the other Ensombiac studio

575
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.039
just thrumming away with Ratchet games on
the rege into the Nexus was ast okay.

576
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.039
Yeah, like they have been cranking
out Ratchet games steadily, Full Frontal

577
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.719
Assault oh yeah in twenty twelve.
Yeah, so like and then all these

578
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.280
kind of one Ratchet game of Year
whatever, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

579
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.480
right, they founded the second studio
in North Carolina and it's just been

580
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.280
ratcheting for man, that's ever,
it's really wild, Like, yeah,

581
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.440
I'm trying to I'm trying to look
back into this, like, yeah,

582
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.920
your Arsenal in two thousand and four
was where like I was kind of like,

583
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.039
yeah, that was that was was
a good one of those games.

584
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.360
But by playing the first two in
two thousand and three and two thousand and

585
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.920
two, yeah, it was a
little a little a little boring at that

586
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.840
point. Yeah, whereas if you're
jumping on point totally. Yeah, I

587
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.039
mean it's obviously I mean they're going
to keep improving as they make them,

588
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:23.880
right, But a lot of the
fun for me is like in these big,

589
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.880
full ratche games, like seeing like
oh, you've got your combuster or

590
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.199
your your pyro whatever, and seeing
how much more powerful it gets over the

591
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.159
course of a long game. Like
I felt like the shorter games did not

592
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.360
give me that sense. It was
like now it's like, oh, Okay,

593
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:38.920
this is gonna be a big,
full ass game. I'm looking forward

594
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.840
to to watching this progression. So
yeah, I'm I'm way in the mood

595
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.840
for this game, right Yeah.
Like I'm looking at the our franchise page

596
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.280
for Ratchet and Client right now,
and yeah, there's like there's first three

597
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.239
Ratchet games, which is kind of
the core, and then after that it

598
00:35:53.320 --> 00:36:00.199
just spins off into just junk.
I thought all that stuff was was real,

599
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.000
real rough or every everything. Everything
I tried. It was just like,

600
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.320
man, Nope, I don't want
to come back to ratchets at all.

601
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.400
If you're gonna make this, yeah, multiplayer focus thing, you're gonna

602
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.480
do this with ratical like size matters
on PSP. Yeah, I think Deadlocked

603
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.199
was like an arena combat thing,
and then full Frontal Assault was the tower

604
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.679
defense thing. I think, yeah. And I just thought Tools of Destruction

605
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.079
was was kind of rotten too.
I remember that looked really good. That

606
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.559
was early PS three. I remember
all the like parts where you're like sliding

607
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:27.119
down the rails and the city's collapsing
in the background. It looked really cool.

608
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.840
But I liked the game, but
I don't think it had the impact

609
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.760
of up your arsenally. Not No. And then in the cracking time,

610
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.480
I actually really liked the clank sections
where they had the cool like you're making

611
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.039
copies of yourself and like, okay, you're gonna make shadow clank step on

612
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.079
this switch and then rewind time and
your shadow still goes and does that and

613
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.880
you have to work in conjunction.
Like those puzzles were awesome, I thought,

614
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.760
so. Yeah. I don't know, man, I wonder if this

615
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.679
will lead to just like a new
resurgence for Ratchet, Like if this game

616
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.840
ends up coming out doing well,
if the movie does okay, like if

617
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.920
they if they're just like, nope, we're back in it making proper fucking

618
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.800
sequels to Ratchet and Clank now with
this is the new origin story, like

619
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.199
let's go, and that's definitely my
favorite thing in Soniac's ever done. Yeah,

620
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.159
man, all this is just making
me really bummed out that nobody else

621
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.639
really liked Sunset Overdrive around here.
I liked it a lot. Were you

622
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.000
into that game? Yeah, we
talked about that. I really enjoyed it.

623
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.000
I thought I remembered everybody else,
No, I beat it, loved

624
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.920
it. Okay, Yeah, all
right, great game. Okay, that's

625
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.719
good to hear. Yeah, there's
a lot of you know, a lot

626
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.400
of shared DNA there with crazy ass
weapons, and yeah, the grinding aspect

627
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.559
was like fan fuckantastic. All the
traversal stuff in that game, grinding grinding

628
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.400
on rails. Yeah, yeah,
like right, I thought the traversal stuff

629
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.559
was I don't know, maybe it
just takes a while your mind around it,

630
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.000
but I just like it was so
off putting out of the gate,

631
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:43.119
like I just didn't well, well, yeah, I will definitely say they

632
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.639
they stop about one or two traversal
moves short of where you need to be

633
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.639
at the beginning of that game by
it, because like you you get like

634
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:54.000
the like there's the air dash,
there's I forget, there are some other

635
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:58.599
like upgrades around bouncing off of things
and keeping your combat going. Yeah,

636
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.239
like that that was fun like four
or five out. Well know, I

637
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.599
mean you get that stuff four or
five hours in and that's when it gets

638
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.639
awesome. Like I agree, like
it's a little bit disjointed the traversal stuff

639
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.159
at the beginning, but as soon
as you get those upgrades, having to

640
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.400
get combat book in your on rails, that's what was off putting. Really.

641
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.760
Yeah, so generous felt like it
all again, like it takes a

642
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.360
few hours to really get the stuff
you need, but once it clicks,

643
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.920
like it plays so well. Hey
guys, thought like that, like the

644
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.360
auto am being as generous as it
was kind of made it on engaging.

645
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.079
I guess on the shooting end.
I mean obviously like it's they balanced in

646
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.840
favor of like you focus on the
traverse and it just happens. It moves

647
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.320
the focus towards, you know,
moving around and making sure your combo stays

648
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:38.559
up and that kind of thing that
makes sense for the type of game that

649
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.599
is. I just didn't really like
it, and and you know, and

650
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.159
obviously they also did Resistance, which
I know, thanks, like yeah,

651
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.960
like the first one. Yeah,
Sunchet, I should point out is a

652
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.840
free games game with gold this month? Oh is it? Yeah? Oh

653
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.679
yeah, so yeah, if you've
got Xbox a lot of gold, fucking

654
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.519
go down on that game. Shit. Yeah, why not show anybody here

655
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:07.440
play Fuse? I Refuse too multiplayer
Fuse with Brad Yeah for his review yep,

656
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.000
Jeff, Yeah, me, Jeff
and Vinny. I think ended up

657
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.840
finishing the game like I got.
I got basically to the last mission and

658
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.880
I was like, hey, I
need to try the co op for the

659
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.679
review. You guys want to play
some Fuse. And we finished the game

660
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.280
and I was like, all right, which guy were you? Were you

661
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:22.880
the shield guy, the mag shield? I think I played the shield guy.

662
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.840
Okay, I was the guy with
the like melty bullets or whatever.

663
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.639
You could shoot the stuff end of
the wall and then press the button in

664
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.880
like lava spurts would come out.
Yeah. Man, that game, I

665
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.920
don't I don't know. It's hard
to say how much of that is Insomniac

666
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.239
and how much was he a But
yeah, it was originally over Killed,

667
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.800
over Don't Tell, over Strike,
Yes, over Strike with the kind of

668
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.679
team for style. Yeah, that
initial announcement trailer for that game. I

669
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.880
was like, okay, yeah,
yeah, okay, and then like the

670
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.679
new art style and the box art
I think we're revealed at the same time

671
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.559
saying oh no, what are you
doing to this? Congratulations, we have

672
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.920
focused tested the fun out of this
video game for you. Look great,

673
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:08.239
awesome. I'm glad to hear this
new Ratchet is shaping up. That sounds

674
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:14.760
Yeah, it's all right, sure, you know that's cool. Yeah,

675
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.400
pleasantly surprised or I guess, I
mean, I don't know. I thought

676
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.400
it looked pretty good last time I
saw it some months ago, so it

677
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.880
wasn't a huge surprise. But yeah, neat, yeah, real cool,

678
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.599
excellent, and yeah I'll be playing
through that. We'll have quick looks and

679
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.440
all that stuff for star Fucks and
Ratchett excellent. A week or two.

680
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.960
Video games are coming out. Yeah, as per usual. As of right

681
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.639
now, there are video games.
They are all over the places right this

682
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.280
second, they are among us.
We're about to find video games living among

683
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.679
us. As of this recording,
they also exist. Yes, but also

684
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.159
as you're listening to it, also
Dark Souls three. Yeah, is that

685
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.639
it's coming out as we're recording it
is. We will know shortly if the

686
00:40:53.679 --> 00:41:00.559
PC version figure out if this crash
that has happened on our studio PC Jason,

687
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.719
you had to happen once at home
have not happened. Okay, not

688
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.599
at home at all. Yeah,
and I've tried. It has been the

689
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.960
weirdest situation with this game because we
got steam keys like three weeks before release,

690
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.239
which is the hard crazy early for
any game, much less like a

691
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:21.320
big triple A like help publisher backed
game. You know, it's it's a

692
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.480
Dark Souls game. And that's dude, it doesn't matter what it is like

693
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.639
that is that is crazy early to
get this double legget. No, I'm

694
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.400
just sucking around. Wait what fact, I mean, take a look at

695
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:36.639
that game, serious production values,
like it looks fucking incredible. It's why

696
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.519
why does the cover look like the
dude is giving a fucking thumbs up,

697
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:44.159
Like what is going on with cover
of Dark Souls three where he's just got

698
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.000
his like pointy thumb and it just
looks like he's given this really fucking non

699
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.760
committal thumbs off, like a buddy, I've lived, I've made it,

700
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.119
like we bought. Yeah, exactly, I got good. I summoned and

701
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:59.239
we got through it. That's yeah, that's a that's a you know,

702
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.519
cultural thing. You'd give a thumbs
up after you summon with something. Yeah,

703
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.199
yes, yeah, show show the
proper respect, dude, Ross,

704
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.159
Yes, the fist bump. Yeah. So yeah, we got the game

705
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:14.559
super early and they were like make
long story short, like like kind of

706
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.320
early patches that we applied to it
that we're supposed to be basically what the

707
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.360
day one patch was going to be, and then immediately started running into crazy

708
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.960
crashes to desktop left and right consistently, like in the same spot. Yeah,

709
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.000
Vinny and al Austin both had tons
of trouble with crashes. Yeah,

710
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.119
and there's still having that issue.
Yeah, like a current like the one

711
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.840
Oath three. Yeah, they put
out another patch, one of three on

712
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.719
Friday. That's it should be the
one that's coming out at launch. I

713
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:40.559
think, yeah, we tried to
play that. You tried to play the

714
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.239
game on upf he on Friday and
ran into the same crash. It's just

715
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.880
it's something about bonfires. Being at
a bonfire makes the game crash the desktop.

716
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.639
Those aren't important bad thing to having
a Dark Souls game, But yet

717
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.719
at home, like I said,
I tried religently to try and reproduce that.

718
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.960
All different classes came at it from
all different angles, and I couldn't

719
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.360
get to crash. I I don't
know what the deciding factor is. It's

720
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:06.639
super weird and crazy and inconsistent.
It's led to conspiracy theories amongst the staff

721
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:10.079
about like are you are you hooked
up for over HDM everybody, like everybody

722
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:14.920
everybody on the staff has like seven
hundred series cards. Everybody on the staff

723
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.679
has a pet theory about what it
is that's causing these crunch uh. So

724
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.679
yeah, Like the game is unlocking
on Steam as we speak, so hopefully

725
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.679
in the next few minutes we will
find out if this is actually a widespread

726
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.880
You said you heard Jim Sterling had
run into the same I thought I had

727
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.119
read that, So I think I
think I saw that too, but I

728
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.360
like, I know a lot of
other like streamers and stuff that had it

729
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.480
on PC that no problems for the
last like, yeah, we're just lucky,

730
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.519
no idea. What's going on with
that? Is everyone running Windows ten?

731
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:46.320
Yes? M M, I don't
know who knows. I tried to

732
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.119
go to Dark Souls three on the
Steam Store and it says, sorry,

733
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.400
but you're not permitted to view these
materials at this time. Are you using

734
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.639
HDMI? How old are you?
Maybe? Does your phone run on a

735
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.679
seven seventy possibly? Okay, yes, my phone has a seven seventy's yeah,

736
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.320
uh yeah. Do we have breaking
news which by the time people hear

737
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.119
this will be stale and krusty news. I don't know. Yeah, Dark

738
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.519
Souls is out, but I'm seeing
some people talk about a one point one

739
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.559
update, which I don't know if
that's one if they really mean one point

740
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.440
zero one, okay, because one
point oh one came out like yeah,

741
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.400
like a couple weeks ago, like
I said, and then one point oh

742
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:23.639
three came out on Friday. I
think I'm just I'm poking around a few

743
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.000
different like form threads and stuff like
that. There's a story from today from

744
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.840
some side I have never heard of
that says dark Souls three patch one point

745
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:37.360
one okay, but but but it's
about like benchmarks or something, Dark Souls

746
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.199
one point oh versus one point one
patch. Okay, that that sounds less

747
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.000
like somebody somebody version number straight.
Yeah, that's that sounds just wrong.

748
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.440
But well one point of three addressed
some performance stuff pretty profoundly. Yeah.

749
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.079
Yeah, there was one area in
particular that was running like sub thirty at

750
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:00.960
times on the PC YEA some consoles. Yeah probably I didn't get a chance

751
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.280
to see it in person, but
uh yeah, once one of three hit,

752
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:07.960
I went directly to that area and
it was running just fine. Yeah.

753
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.239
Yeah, it sounds like they cleaned
that stuff up. One guy on

754
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.599
this shifty discord I frequent says that
he's got a seven seventy and his crashing.

755
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.840
Okay. I think that might be
the one common thread at this point

756
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.760
between every machine we've had these crashes
on. They're all running seven hundred series

757
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.639
cards. Does anybody check the video
site for locked updated drivers for because normally

758
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.239
on launched day Austin. Austin said
he's been on top of that. There

759
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.159
hasn't been Yeah, and sometimes they
will, like threat, they will they

760
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.159
will send out pre really drivers to
go with games, and there has not

761
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.400
been one for this one. You
didn't get your game ready experience, not

762
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.159
yet. I assume that they would
release drivers for this, but it's a

763
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:46.360
big, big enough release that they
would do something, I guess. But

764
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.239
hopefully, hopefully this is not going
to be a widespread thing or yeah,

765
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.159
affect like anybody at all, because
it is a completely fucking game breaking.

766
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.800
I feel like I've dodged a bullet
with this. Yeah, it kind of

767
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.440
sucks having that like additional tension on
top of, you know, the normal

768
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.639
tension. Like I asked, Awesome, how because he you know, I

769
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.039
sent him that first Steam code we
got ages ago. He played through it.

770
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.519
He's been done with it for a
week or something, and I asked

771
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.079
him. I was like, oh, would you end up playing through it

772
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.079
as? And he was like a
Knight because that was the one class that

773
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:22.320
didn't crash consistently breaking breaking report from
this person on this very shifty discord discord

774
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.320
Elite discord. He just played as
the Night and it works fine. Oh

775
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.000
man, everybody play a night.
Don't play a night. I think I

776
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.280
usually play night play that's like the
strong melee dude. Right, well,

777
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.119
it's uh, it's kind of the
balanced kind of one hand and shield guy.

778
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.199
Can he throw a fireball? Because
I'm playing well, I don't think

779
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.960
I picked Pyromancer. I think I
can do fireball if Yeah, anybody,

780
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.519
anybody can if you get the pyromancy
flame for them. But okay, I

781
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.719
think if you throw were you able
to throw a fireball at the very beginning

782
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.320
of the game. I think maybe
when you were a piromancer, did you

783
00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.760
have a weinard really picked that?
Maybe I don't think Piro a very popular

784
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.239
choice in the first Maybe I did
pick that then, huh. I would

785
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.760
in fact, if you like solicited
Twitter and said, hey, what should

786
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.920
I play through Dark Souls ads,
I bet some people would have said the

787
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.159
Pyromancer. Huh. Okay, it's
a it's a good fun class because you've

788
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.360
got some basic projectile magic, but
you also can just fall back to it's

789
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.199
a fun word to say to It
is really fun. Promancer. And that's

790
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.000
the one where you don't have to
like a tune all this stuff, right,

791
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.679
Like, don't you just always have
the fire thing? And oh it's

792
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.920
every time I go to Vonpire,
I get like eight charges of my fireball

793
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:29.159
all it changes from game to game, but yes, basically and one at

794
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.239
least. Yeah, because it's based
on like existing it's not like its own,

795
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.639
like you know, faith based stuff
is for you know, the cleric

796
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.960
stuff. Intelligence is you know,
a magic user, but the pyromancy stuff

797
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.800
is you know, based off of
that stuff. Okay, then I think

798
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.719
I am that because intelligence is the
thing that you need for other spells,

799
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.079
right, yeah, Okay, then
I'm definitely not doing that shooting magic.

800
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.679
Pyromancy is cool because there's a bunch
of weird dark story stuff behind it.

801
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.679
Yeah, Pyromancy is disdained by the
rest of the populace, is like a

802
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.079
dark art. But yeah, I
think the first abomination you get it's like

803
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.440
kind of the light side, and
then there is like a dark side to

804
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.519
that. I found a pram the
cleric. I found a pyromancy tone that

805
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.599
my pyromancy and PC won't accept.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what

806
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.280
I'm talking about. It is too
dark, too dark. Oh god,

807
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.639
it's different. Yeah. If if
even if even the guy who was cast

808
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.960
out of society as an abomination won't
view it, then what is wrong with

809
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.639
that? The lady I got reading
the cleric tones to me, I brought

810
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:28.119
her a couple. She's like,
this is too dark, that the darkness

811
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.400
and naws it dark Dark Souls three, the darkest Dark Souls ever. She's

812
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.840
blessed. I have to give her
Braille tones. Yeah, I got some

813
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.920
of those. Interesting. That game
is very, very good. Yeah,

814
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.400
it is as a Dark Souls game, Like, if you like Dark Souls

815
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.280
games, you will probably have a
fine fucking time with it. Like yeah,

816
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.559
not really really well anything like above
and beyond, like what they've done

817
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:50.400
previously, lots of tweaks in refinements, and you've gone so far as to

818
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.039
say that it's like the greatest It
feels like the greatest hits album of Dark

819
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.760
Souls to me, I can see
that. I think maybe a better analogy

820
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.960
might be, like it's a remix
album. Yeah, I mean it's it's

821
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.639
not note for note. I'm just
getting more deja food than I'm like,

822
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.079
oh god, they just redid this. I'm not getting that feeling. We

823
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:08.199
talked about this a lot on the
Quick Look, and then I got some

824
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.599
comments from people saying like, oh, you seem to hate the aspect of

825
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.599
it that it's very highly referential to
the previous games, Like I don't I

826
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.559
don't hate that, it's just it's
just it's jarring for this series, where

827
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.199
like the two previous games and like
Bloodbourne is the same, Like they're all

828
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.119
the same way. They are like
black boxes, right, like, yeah,

829
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.079
you don't know who any of the
characters are. They speak in cryptic

830
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.039
ways that don't tell you anything that's
going on. Like until you have experience

831
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.159
with these games, the mechanics don't
make any sense, you know, like

832
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.239
absolutely, they're inscrutable and impenetrable.
And then all of a sudden, here's

833
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.599
this game where it's like one reference
after another, and you know it's like,

834
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.559
oh, I see a lot of
that stuff is lost on me because

835
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:45.679
yeah, I've I've let a majority
of the narrative and the story just kind

836
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.719
of go over my head. Yeah, you know, I'll seek it out

837
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.599
if I really want to, but
you know, the game does not do

838
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.280
a good job of explaining the story. Getting the new one that, yeah,

839
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:58.079
that any of them, Yeah,
yeah, the previous ones absolutely,

840
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.360
You're totally right about that. This
one. Do you want to? Breaking

841
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.000
update from I've Searched Dark Souls three
crash on Twitter there's kind of a lot

842
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:12.840
happening here. Well, actually no, there's actually not that much today,

843
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.440
but there are there definitely seemed to
be reports on it. This guy says

844
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:21.679
he has one crashing character Creator three. Immediately after first Bonfire, I played

845
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.920
Dark Souls on the hardest difficult,
he says, Kevin Cameron five minutes progress

846
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.800
system, crash, do it again? That is the hardest. That sounds

847
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:32.119
that sounds like the problem. Yea, Bun Bun says, the first thing

848
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.599
Dark Souls three did was fucking crash. I am done. And then some

849
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:40.559
people referencing that we have had crashes, so it's actually there's there are not

850
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:45.119
that many tweets right now in this
first forty five minutes. Oh boy,

851
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.519
does it do the thing with the
health system from two where if you die?

852
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.320
Okay, I hated that thing.
I knew that's what it absolutely doesn't.

853
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.360
Okay, does it do the thing
from two where enemies will go permanently?

854
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.199
It does it? No, it
doesn't do that. There is there

855
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.039
is a health penalty to being quote
unquote dead or undead, but it's not

856
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.079
like chipped down like two, where
the bar is constantly getting small. Hated,

857
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.320
I know it's nothing like, it's
nothing that harsh. Okay, good.

858
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.119
Uh the disapparing enemies, I don't
know for sure. What did it

859
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:16.199
take like twenty times or so for
you to run in fifteen something like you

860
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.400
forget the actual number. But yeah, I don't think this game does that.

861
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.559
I don't think it's okays either.
It sounds more like one and a

862
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.679
few aspects then, and it seemed
to have like, uh the stamina now,

863
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.920
like I don't know if you remember
it in like in two, like

864
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.559
they could just swing it's you constantly. But I've run into a number of

865
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.400
circumstances where you know, somebody with
a big weapon can swing three times and

866
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.880
then they they're done. You know. Yeah that was a big problem.

867
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.440
Yeah it's too for me anyway.
But I just kind of generally the way

868
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.079
the way I feel going through this
game versus the previous games is like in

869
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:45.960
the past, it would be like, you know, who the hell is

870
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.320
that guy? And like what is
he telling me? Like what is all

871
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.840
this shit? In this case,
it's more like, oh, hey it's

872
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.559
that guy. Oh hey, I'm
doing this again, you know, like

873
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.760
characters from the previous game. Yeah, like I'm skittish about what to talk

874
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.320
about, because a ton of people
yelled about boilers from last week. I

875
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.800
don't think I could name a single
character from any Dark Souls or Blood Born

876
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.039
game. Andre I Reckon who was
on the Blacksmith. Oh the big guy,

877
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.960
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
So he's your Blacksmith and Dave the

878
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.760
bell Man don't remember him? No, you don't remember Dave. No shit

879
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.360
man, He's everybody's favorite character.
It's the best part of him. Yeah,

880
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.239
that ring is pretty cool. He's
pretty much just a reskinned version of

881
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:29.239
Ricky from Demon Souls. Yeah,
okay, yeah, Ricky was a real

882
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.360
dick. Fuck Ricky. Yeah yeah, poisoned that poison cloud spells. I'm

883
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:37.159
digging the combat yea, that means
more refined. I like the weapon skills.

884
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.599
It's been fun. It's actually actually
I never used the weapon skills.

885
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.079
I probably should be finding more and
more useless for him. As I was

886
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.800
finding a little more unique types of
weapons, like I found like a set

887
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.480
of like two handed maces, as
in, like you know, one in

888
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.440
each wild and that'll give you some
different like spin attacks. So I played.

889
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:58.639
I tried to play Dark Souls the
first first one when it came out.

890
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:00.920
I tried to play it, Yes, put an hour and a half,

891
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:02.400
two hours into it before just kind
of going like, man, fucking

892
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:07.360
whatever. And then I tried to
do the same thing with Dark Souls too,

893
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.199
and got away from that even sooner. And then, for whatever reason,

894
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.519
just the right timing or just the
way this game started or something,

895
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.199
something about Blood Born clicked in a
way that the other the Dark Souls games

896
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.400
did not, and I ended up
playing quite a lot of that thing.

897
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.679
Yeah, I think you got like
just maybe around halfway through it or something

898
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.440
something like that. A little bit
further than that, you'll probably drop this

899
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:35.920
one a lot. Yeah, the
wrong from a crash, Yeah, I

900
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.079
got past wrong. Yeah you did. Okay, you were fighting that guy

901
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:40.719
up on the roof I think last
I saw you playing. Yeah, that's

902
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.519
probably down the stake and then the
Luck Souls came out. That's pretty far.

903
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.679
Yeah, yeah I got there.
I did that. Yeah, you

904
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.320
got You got pretty deep in then. So, yeah, what do you

905
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.760
think if if the reason that you
liked Blood Born was the way that it

906
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.119
played differently from Dark Souls. The
no I don't just play the thing is

907
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.519
I don't know, because I I
didn't play all right, I mean that

908
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.639
badly. Play enough of Dark Souls
one and two to know what it was.

909
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.800
It's not necessarily the sidestep stuff that
makes blood Born work for me.

910
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.559
Did you like the guns? No? I actually didn't, and I think

911
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.119
I might actually there for a shield. The guns are weird and yeah,

912
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.920
blood Born because they're not carry Yeah, they're not super use of or useful

913
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.199
in an offensive capacity, right,
They're just there to like trigger this pair.

914
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:30.719
That's that's a cool concept. But
I don't know. I got pretty

915
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.239
good at lining those up with certain
enemies, and then at some point I

916
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.320
got just you know, I was
doing so much damage with the other weapon

917
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.880
I had that, Like, I
just I found myself not even bothering to

918
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.679
learn the timing. Yeah, in
most cases you don't have to if you

919
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.039
get used to like where the invisibility
is in the role or the dash just

920
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:46.920
dash through a text pretty much.
And that's how I started. That's how

921
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.119
I started playing it, and didn't
really use the gun much at all,

922
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.519
to the point where I was just
like this this maybe like this initially seemed

923
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:59.159
like a really cool idea and the
gun is maybe not that great. So

924
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.079
I'm wondering if that if those feelings
will kind of line me up for Dark

925
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.199
Souls three. Don't know a little
bit. It's really hard to say.

926
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.360
It depends on because they style.
I guess it's very much plays for like

927
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.679
you know, you know, a
hand in each weapon and just like Slash

928
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:16.119
through ship. Yeah, alright,
it looks, plays, feels sounds is

929
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:21.559
very much like Dark Souls mostly Dark
Souls one, although there are some some

930
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.960
maybe more oblique references to two,
but very much just like oh, like

931
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.519
talking about character. We were talking
about a lot of this stuff last week,

932
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.920
but you know, characters are reprised
and I don't want to say too

933
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.920
much, but a lot of familiar
stuff, yeah, which is what it

934
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.440
is. It's just it's just different. I don't I don't hate it.

935
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.400
I don't hate that aspect of it. It's just very different for a series

936
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.760
that has been just about like confusing
you and wowing you at every turn,

937
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.760
you know, to kind of go
back to the well, yeah, it's

938
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.360
a little bit like you know,
oh man, real hot and cold on

939
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.920
that. Really there's some really really
interesting ones and I just did one last

940
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.880
night and it was just like,
really, but it's not having fun with

941
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.239
it. Dumb. Yeah, the
deacons. I'll just put that out there,

942
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.559
and Okay, I don't think I've
gotten to that yet. Yeah,

943
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.440
once people get there, they're like
they'll know what I'm talking. Do you

944
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:14.320
think the game seems like way more
finishable or just way like does it seem

945
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.599
easier because it's the third game or
the fifth game and you want to look

946
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:21.679
at it or whatever and that because
you've gotten so used to this exact style

947
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.599
and I'm like hearing it often kind
of cruised through it and beat it like

948
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.840
before it was out and stuff.
I was like, oh, well,

949
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.960
I'm definitely like I've beaten one of
the major bosses I beat on the first

950
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:31.800
try, Like another major one I
beat on the second try. Like that

951
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.800
stuff was a little surprising to me. But I couldn't tell if it's because

952
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.519
I've gotten more proficient or if it's
actually easier. I don't know, right,

953
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.800
Yeah, I got back and forth
again. Yeah, that's a couple

954
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.559
that I you know, maybe one
shotted and then there was one that I've

955
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.519
really got stuck on for like a
day and a half, but that was

956
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.880
decent, like I don't know,
weird reasons. Yeah, I will,

957
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.480
I will say in terms of it
being finishable, like it's it's like,

958
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.639
at least to the point I'm at, it's like unflinchingly linear, which is

959
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.239
kind of surprising. It seems like
maybe there's a less mystery, and I

960
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.440
I'm trying to decipher from talking to
people who have played it, if that's

961
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:07.360
because people have played a lot of
these games before and it's the same style

962
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.320
of mystery, or if like you're
saying, it's it's just it's it's a

963
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.920
more linear game. Well, talking
to people who have finished it, I'm

964
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.079
now hearing things about areas I cruised
through that I missed that I was like,

965
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.480
oh shit, I can go back
there. Like there's a whole side

966
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.679
area that I didn't even notice go
through there, like I should out.

967
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.639
Yeah, a lot from it,
And there are side there are mechanics and

968
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:28.159
little quest lines off to the side
that are like as inscrutable as anything they've

969
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.400
ever done. You know. It's
like it's like, well, you got

970
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:31.440
to talk to this guy and have
him come back to your shrine, and

971
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:34.679
then you talk to him when this
happens, and he'll give you this.

972
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.920
But if you do it, if
you wait until after you beat this other

973
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.280
boss to do it, he will
die. Yeah, Or if you do

974
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.760
do it right, then there's other
NPC you'll show up and then she'll sell

975
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.800
you a thing. But if you
join this other covenant, she won't want

976
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.280
to talk to you, you know
what I mean? Right, Like,

977
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.920
there's still tons of that stuff in
there, a lot of interpersonal relationships with

978
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:58.559
the NPCs. There's definitely a conceptually
crazy for definitely those NPCs usually say when

979
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.440
you talk to them in these games. All right, But but like in

980
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:05.519
terms of the way the areas are
arranged, and we again covered to some

981
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.559
last week, but it's very much
like you know, go through an area,

982
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.000
beat the boss, like be teleported
to the next area or funneled into

983
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:14.239
the next area. But yeah,
I did hear that that I'm I'm at

984
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.079
twenty two hours and it sounds like
I'm coming up on the point where there

985
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.519
are suddenly multiple paths you can follow. Yeah. Yeah, there's one path

986
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.039
in particular that I completely missed.
I have no idea that I could even

987
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:27.400
get there, and i'd uh,
yeah, I kept going through the game

988
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.079
and is there a sage involved?
Maybe Okay, that might be the same

989
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.760
path that I Yeah, yeah,
I totally missed that. Yeah, I

990
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.559
found that the sage yeah, much
much later. Yeah. Yeah, and

991
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.280
another part of that area talking to
like Austin apparently did that part as soon

992
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:42.320
as he found it and I missed
it, and he was like, yeah,

993
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.599
it was a bitch for me,
but you're probably like over leveled for

994
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.440
it at this point. Yeah.
I summoned somebody and it was like it's

995
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:50.760
super easy. Yeah, but Austin
Walker is on the case. And then

996
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.880
he is he is finding more people
talking about it on Twitter, and I

997
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.440
told him, see if they have
seven hundred series cards, so he's he's

998
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.599
checking particular. Austin gonna put a
luth had on get to the bottom of

999
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.239
this thing. It's been vexing us
for two weeks, outsourced QA, you've

1000
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.719
been waiting for I know we're on
the case. I like, I think

1001
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:09.639
I mentioned before. Yeah, Like
I found a reproducible crash on the PS

1002
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:14.360
four version that I alerted NAMCO too, And like thirty minutes later a mass

1003
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.320
email goes out saying, we have
identified an issue in the not since Kanan

1004
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.800
Lynch too have we been on the
case. But QA, So that bug

1005
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.679
got fixed. I checked that bug
got fixed, and the one or three

1006
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:27.559
patch that came out of right,
and the performance stuff like the p F

1007
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.280
four version that I've been playing seems
totally sound like and it looks good too.

1008
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:32.119
Yeah, yeah, it looks good. You know. It runs like

1009
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:37.519
Bloodborne ran, like I mean,
we're where but whatever, it's kind of

1010
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:39.800
chunks up a little bit here and
there on par with console. Assuming this,

1011
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:44.280
yeah, assuming this crash thing gets
resolved, like PC looks amazing,

1012
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.480
Like, that's definitely the one to
play, aside from the one that goes

1013
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.119
so far as to say like definitely
like they're they're pretty close. I think

1014
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.679
you think, I mean, you
know, seriously before it runs at sixty

1015
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:59.159
frames. Yeah, seeing it on
seen it on UPF running that smooth and

1016
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:05.000
resolution, it seems like the thing
that but like the definitive version, like

1017
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.840
I think it's totally fucking playable.
Oh no, no, I'm not saying

1018
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.360
if if you want to play it
on a console, it's totally follow sounds

1019
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:12.800
like maybe the Xbox version is a
lower rough, but I wouldn't. I'm

1020
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:14.800
just saying, if you has to
call it night and day or anything,

1021
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:16.480
if you have the option, you
should play it on a nice Pcnyeah.

1022
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:21.320
Sure, look nice. Yeah,
watching you play it for about three minutes

1023
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:25.440
on Friday before it died. Right, man, it's a really good game.

1024
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:30.639
I am like really excited to end
this podcast and go home and play

1025
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:31.639
some more of it. Oh yeah, me too, Like, and I'm

1026
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:36.639
having more fun with this one in
particular because I'm finding more like mini bosses

1027
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.559
and just like more short term goals, so I can only play for like

1028
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.679
a limited amount of time. So
that's been like super beneficial to me.

1029
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:45.519
It's like, Oh, I'm gonna
get enough souls to go buy this key

1030
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:50.159
this lady's selling and open up this
passage and go see what's back there.

1031
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.679
Like oh fuck, I want to
go fight that big dude O there?

1032
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.320
How do I do this? And
then yeah, I'll spend like an hour

1033
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.400
doing it. It's like, okay, cool, I feel accomplished. I

1034
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.599
had actually got something something out of
this. I will say I almost feel

1035
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:02.760
like they took the criticism about blood
Borne to heart about it not having enough

1036
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.800
different weapons and different types of weapons, because I feel like I have like

1037
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.800
thirty to forty eight weapons in my
inventory right now. Yeah, I think

1038
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.280
as well, And just like I'm
rippled within decision about which one is to

1039
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.400
upgrade because there's so many of them. I've I've been kind of shooting myself

1040
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:19.760
in the foot because you know,
a lot of those weapons are not nearly

1041
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.119
as good as like my starting one
that i've I've you know, I put

1042
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:23.599
a gem into you. I you
know, put a bunch of fucking you

1043
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:28.199
know, a tight night into it
and upgraded it and and it's doing burly

1044
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.199
ass damage. But it's like,
I want to branch out a little bit.

1045
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.159
That's the badass way to play game. And I feel like people fucking

1046
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.719
talk shit about that, but whatever, man, fucking I'm not talking shit

1047
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.480
about BioShock. Like that's the just
fucking upgrade the wrench man. Stop sucking

1048
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.519
around like with you and wrenches.
But fucking that's how you fucking play Ratchet

1049
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:45.840
Man. That that's how you fucking
play as the unarmed guy in the game.

1050
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.719
Because they've give them all kinds of
weird fist stuff. By the end

1051
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.440
of the game, you know,
like, is there really in this one?

1052
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.400
Wow, like fist there are there
are fists where there are crazy fist

1053
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.639
weapons, yes see, but like
a lot of that stuff, it's like,

1054
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.599
Okay, well, maybe I'll upgrade
it. A little bit to see

1055
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.280
if it's even comparable, and I'm
not seeing any Like that's a situation where

1056
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:07.280
I'd want to like actually go out
on the internet and find some fucking you

1057
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:08.960
know, bar graphs and you know, trying to do the calculations. But

1058
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:13.559
before I invested all that ship,
those upgrade tables exists. I have seen

1059
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.920
them, have they? I mean
it launching in Japan early, it's seated

1060
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:21.960
the internet with a wealth of information. Often has received one response from someone

1061
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.119
saying they're using display port and a
seven eighty oh man are and they are

1062
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.199
crashing? Yeah, so it's that's
that seems like that's the new thing.

1063
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.880
For a while, there was a
HDMI thing. Yeah, are we ready

1064
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:37.599
to upgrade this to working theory?
Working theory is that this is something to

1065
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.199
do with cards in the seven hundreds. That seems to be what we have

1066
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:45.000
observed. Has anybody tried converting to
VGA yet? We should try it over

1067
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.239
a steam Link? Yeah? I
wonder what that would even its connect the

1068
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:52.119
monitor. I played actually a little
bit via steam Link over the weekend.

1069
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.199
Yeah, runs good, good experience. Yeah, as long as you got

1070
01:02:55.199 --> 01:03:00.000
a local connection for sure. But
it was fine. Get that hard Line,

1071
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:04.639
little leg whatever. Man, I'm
trying to think. It's like navigating

1072
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.920
a minefield of what are people going
to think? Is too much to hear

1073
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.760
about this game? I don't know. I mean, that's probably plenty of

1074
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:15.559
talk about I guess. I mean, I really it looks amazing. It's

1075
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.360
one of the best looking in the
series. Some of the new environments are

1076
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.880
really like fucking breathtaking, dude,
there is there is one particular. There's

1077
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:24.039
one, yeah, you know which
one I'm talking about. There's a point

1078
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:27.079
where you just like you beat a
boss, you walk up some stairs and

1079
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.920
walk out of a cave onto this
skyline and it was like it was literally,

1080
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.719
like it sounds dumb to say,
jaw dropping, but it was very

1081
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.800
much a mouth hanging open, like
wow, that is some art. Yeah,

1082
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.599
like that is a put down the
control them. Yeah wow. But

1083
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.159
you can't say for sure if this
is any harder, any easier than the

1084
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.039
previous games, or I really it's
such a if. The changes seems smart

1085
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.599
though from what you said, yeah, well, they've added a lot of

1086
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.599
stuff. They've added a lot of
complexity and systems to the way the weapons

1087
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:58.760
upgrade and what their you know,
their side abilities Doka even stuff like uh,

1088
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.239
you know, like like two had
the thing where you know, the

1089
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.920
bosses drop specific souls that you can
either cash in for a ton of souls

1090
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:08.039
or turn into crazy weapons. Yeah, but you didn't really know what those

1091
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.960
weapons could be. Like there's just
a vendor now that will that will let

1092
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.039
you trade in your boss souls for
like here's the crazy weapons you can get,

1093
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:16.880
yeah, from the outset, which
is kind of Yes, so they

1094
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.239
they make explicit some things that were
like kind of things you had to wiki

1095
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:26.360
before. Yeah. Yeah, I
guess it's I feel like like you knew,

1096
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.159
like you could go to that vendor
and say, hey, hey,

1097
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.760
I've got this gem here's and he'll
be like, here's what I can make

1098
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.880
for you, and maybe so and
too maybe that's the case, but regardless,

1099
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:36.719
Yeah, it's cool having that from
from the get go. Yeah,

1100
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.920
some of the enemies are I don't
want to say smarter, but like some

1101
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:44.079
of their I'm having a tougher time
in this game, Like I don't want

1102
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:45.000
to go as far as to say
that, like the game is harder.

1103
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:49.440
Yeah, but I'm getting more of
that feeling than I like I did in

1104
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:53.920
the first game, where It's just
like you get your ass fucking kicked when

1105
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.880
you first get to an area for
quite a while, and then you will

1106
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.039
eventually feel like a badass afterwards.
Whereas in like Dark Souls Too, I

1107
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.239
felt like if I was just being
careful, I didn't really have to learn

1108
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.960
too many patterns and stuff. I
felt a little more powerful on that one.

1109
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.840
Like that one is a little bit
easier, but yeah, I'm definitely

1110
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.159
getting man my tushie kicked. Yeah, in this one, they do some

1111
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.800
creative stuff with like enemies. But
there's one part where the enemy spawns are

1112
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.760
like almost hilarious in a way.
There's a couple of spots where enemies fighting

1113
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:27.000
other enemies is used in a in
a kind of clever way, Like there's

1114
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:29.760
some some neat little scenarios here and
there that are worth seeing. Yeah,

1115
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.079
there's there's a lot of variety in
there, even if it's it's like highly

1116
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:39.079
highly aware of its predecessors. Let's
see you guys buying the cool t shirts.

1117
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.360
Yeah, in these sweet shirts that
they made. Love seeing these they

1118
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:46.079
made shirts. Dank memes, No, only the dankest. They took an

1119
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:49.760
Oli Moss design from years ago.
There was on like Tea Spring or on

1120
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.320
you know, on on No One
not Tea Spring, thread lists or something

1121
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.880
I want to say where it was
a bunch of spoiler stuff for movies all

1122
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.760
kind it's all the text. Yeah
yeah, yeah. They made a Dark

1123
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:08.559
Souls version of that that just like
has like this large list of just like

1124
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:13.280
here's some ship from Dark Souls and
it just doesn't form like the image of

1125
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.880
a thing from Dark Souls. No, okay, it's just a bunch of

1126
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.599
text. Yeah, let's put text
in like like like visual elements right two

1127
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.280
with it too, and it's like
the Sun yeah okay, yeah, yes,

1128
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.800
there's probably a praise of the Sun
dropped in there. There's a death

1129
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:28.679
counter, there's a there's a message
there. It's a nice chest ahead,

1130
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.960
even though it should have been like
what amazing chest ahead? Is there?

1131
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:35.079
The real Dark Souls starts here.
I think they actually stopped short of that,

1132
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:40.360
okay, okay, and just an
arrow pointing down yeah, oh yeah,

1133
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.440
yeah, yes, no, it's
always good to have. Yeah,

1134
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.440
I mean whatever, like that thing
is not great. But they really assaulted

1135
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.599
the earth with their like hype campaign
for it. Oh yeah, before they

1136
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:56.239
tweeted out its specifically out of Namco
UK right or banded Namco. You can.

1137
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:00.599
It's like we got some big news, like here's this fucking dumb shit,

1138
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:01.840
like like I don't even give a
fuck about Dark Souls a lower or

1139
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:03.559
anything like that, but I look
you still. You look at that and

1140
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.760
you're like, man, you could
have made all these awesome black metal looking

1141
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:12.880
fucking shirts with all this imagery and
all this like crazy insane story stuff that

1142
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.079
Dark Souls is known for, and
instead you chose to fucking slap together the

1143
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:20.000
memiest bullshit you could find. I
think there's some other merchant and a design

1144
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:25.239
that is not even yours. Yeah, Like it's just real fucking and then

1145
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:27.880
they break some of those individual images
out and sell them on several shirts.

1146
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.880
It's it's a it's a bad fucking
scene. But you know, like like

1147
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:32.760
like pre tweeting about that just gave
people a night to go like, oh,

1148
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:35.880
they're gonna finally do like Dark Souls
one remaster or whatever, just like

1149
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:42.280
all kinds of you know, actually
exciting things that's gotta be come to pass.

1150
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.519
I wonder if if they all like
as soon as they sent those if

1151
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.519
they as soon as they started promoting
that they had something to announce with Dark

1152
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.559
Souls the following day and saw that
reaction. They were like, oh,

1153
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:55.119
we should we should have thought this
through. We fuck up because when we

1154
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.639
come through and say we got shirts
for sale, it's gonna be a fucking

1155
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:01.360
blood bath. Oh well, at
least the game is really good as a

1156
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:06.079
quick as i'd like. In on
the flip side to those shitty T shirts,

1157
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:11.559
Meat bun uh sells really fucking awesome
Dark Souls T shirts like they're in

1158
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.440
the like the style of like tarot
cards. Yeah, that license. So

1159
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.199
if you're looking for awesome Dark Souls
shirts, please please go there. Check

1160
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.640
those out. I always like that
name. That's your plug, Meat Bun,

1161
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:27.039
Meat Bun. There's another seven seventy
on dv I crashing that Austin has

1162
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.119
encountered. Yeah, I'm asking somebody
about it. We are going to corner

1163
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.840
the market on Google SEO for Dark
Souls seven seventy crashes. There's been three

1164
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:41.199
another three tweets to my search of
Dark Souls crash. Okay, this with

1165
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.319
this guy says, hahaha, I
just got that exact fucking crash to desktop.

1166
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.000
The Giant bomb got what approaching the
first bond five and Dark Souls three

1167
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:49.600
lucky you. Uh. This other
person says, Okay, I'm going to

1168
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.560
bed to read a book. Dark
Souls three is just a crash factory.

1169
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:58.079
So I it seems this does not
seem super widespread because I'm literally talking about

1170
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:01.640
five tweets in the you know,
hour since release. This seems like it

1171
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.279
would be way more widespread if it
were. It seems like there would be

1172
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.800
a lot more people complaining about it
if it was way widespread. But that's

1173
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:14.359
still a real problem, definitely,
and our working theory of seven seventies seven

1174
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.359
eighties cards like that being the issue. I think that that's been the one.

1175
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.960
The one is the one completely consistent
variable across this whole thing, right,

1176
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:25.399
is that the video card has always
been a seven hundred series on every

1177
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:28.600
machine. Yeah that we've had the
crashes on, we are still available for

1178
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.880
higher Well, you know we've got
and we've got that six seventy. We've

1179
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.479
got that six seventy on that machine
near our desks. Just try it on

1180
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:38.399
that, ye see what happens.
Apparently there's a Windows XP box somewhere on

1181
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.079
this it's right, it is trying
to find it. That was amazing.

1182
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.880
Zombie XP machine Dan before it came
around the other day, go like,

1183
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:46.479
you guys, know where there's in
that Windows XP machine running around like it

1184
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.880
has been like trying to trace the
IP to find it because it's rogue and

1185
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:55.279
they don't update those things for security
anymore, and it's gonna poison our network.

1186
01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.119
Shouldn't it just shouldn't They should be
able to figure out what poored it's

1187
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:00.680
hooked up to is like that way, we're just block it or just block

1188
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.760
the port. Somebody could plug it
intother port if they found it. Yeah,

1189
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.319
I suppose, but I think,
oh man, we should find that

1190
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:10.159
XP machine. Yeah we should just
we should launch it or know what we

1191
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:13.359
should do. We should vestigation and
more XP machines and sneak them in here

1192
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.319
and plug them in and weird into
weird unused offices and stuff like that.

1193
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.479
I was just really making crazy machine. Could we like run XPN Oh probably

1194
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:25.880
on a like a like a computer
on a stick or respberry pie style thing.

1195
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:28.359
Right, it's like, well up
in the ceiling, baby, I

1196
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.960
don't know if XP would. We're
just gonna burger our own ceiling. But

1197
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:33.960
with XP machines, I haven't run
off of Wi Fi and they're like,

1198
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.840
oh, we don't hide them all
over this place. Man, just building

1199
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:43.960
will be rotten with Windows XP.
I would love to do that. That

1200
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.119
would that would be really good.
Play Dark Souls three if you like Dark

1201
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:51.319
Souls, it is excellent shoot out. Uh anybody play Enter the Gungeon?

1202
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:57.079
Yeah a little bit. Yeah,
Yeah, that game is cool. I

1203
01:10:57.159 --> 01:11:00.119
like that game. It's except that
I'm not sure the shooting has clicked for

1204
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:02.760
me yet. Well, you know, it seems like the one thing that

1205
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.359
that's a game I get. I
get the feeling that they made a deliberate

1206
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:10.119
choice to not have an aiming radical, and I feel like that game would

1207
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.439
really benefit from one. I kind
of agree. There's nothing in the options

1208
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:15.800
for that. No, well,
if you're playing, if you're playing with

1209
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.239
the mouse and keyboard, it's a
different story because it would have I don't

1210
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.960
know, but I think so,
I'm not sure, but I don't know.

1211
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:25.960
There's a slider on PS four for
like the auto Yeah. Yeah,

1212
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.520
so I turned that all the way
up on PS four, but then I

1213
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.439
ended up I ended up playing with
a controller on on PC. I should

1214
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:35.000
have grabbed the mouse and seeing what
it did. But I played various builds

1215
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.239
of that. I want to say
that there's totally radical if you're playing with

1216
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.319
a mouse, but because you would
have to because if you have to aim

1217
01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:45.640
somehow right, Well, you could
just use the mouse to control the gun.

1218
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.319
Which way the gun? That seems
like it would be bad. Well

1219
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.319
that's what it does on the console. Like that's the only way you can

1220
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.119
tell. Well, but you know
what you're pointing at the right analog stick

1221
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:55.600
at least. Yeah, that's a
little anyway, or they have like a

1222
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.359
visible cursor the entire time. I
would think I would think it would have

1223
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.920
a visible cursor with a mouse.
Yeah, that would take place, But

1224
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.239
I don't redical Yeah, okay,
anyway, I can't say for sure one

1225
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.159
way or the other. I know
it's I know it's a balancing thing because

1226
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:10.319
it's a game all about getting better
guns constantly. Yeah, but like something

1227
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:14.319
about the way the default guns handle
not quite there. Well, it's it's

1228
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:17.000
the enemies take a lot of hits
with that default weapon and even kind of

1229
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:23.000
the more kind of basic weapons you
start getting early on. Uh, it

1230
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.319
just takes a few more shots than
it feels like it should, like down

1231
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.359
like the blue shotgun shell stuff.
Shots are relatively slow. Yeah, there's

1232
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.800
some travel on your own bullets and
stuff like that. Yeah, as far

1233
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:39.159
as like upgrades like faster shooting,
speed or and it's all types of ship.

1234
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:41.920
Dude, there must be like how
many guns do you want to do

1235
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:44.479
you want to shoot out? Do
you want to shoot out the back at

1236
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:45.920
the same time you shoot out the
front, because there's there's upgrade for that.

1237
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:47.840
I had that when I had food
poison. Yeah, no, no,

1238
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.920
that this gives you that like very
multiple bullets per shot. Like all

1239
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:58.000
there are the word bullet the yes, the yes and lowercase are that shoots

1240
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.800
the word bullet out every time you
pull the trigger is in that game as

1241
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.039
a gun. But yeah, like
the passive upgrades in that game, if

1242
01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:06.399
you and that's what you're is that
what you're shooting for? I guess like

1243
01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:11.680
temp unattended. But if you're getting
the right upgrades, like you are becoming

1244
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:16.359
like you are emitting so much fucking
hot death out of both ends that the

1245
01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:19.479
type of you can't even like that
even the PC version of the game will

1246
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:25.960
slow to a fucking crawl because you
are just you are launching fucking straight up

1247
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:30.720
murder on a NonStop basis. And
the game cannot handle it, but the

1248
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.560
burners being launched right back at you. Yeah, yes, yeah, all

1249
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.319
right, so this is like the
kind of a bullet hell is what I

1250
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:43.600
saw it. Yeah, they're definitely
pattering Joystick Shooter roguelike, you know,

1251
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.520
in a similar vein to something like
Binding of Isaac. You see you see

1252
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.000
some Isaac in this game. For
sure. You see a little bit of

1253
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.560
Nuclear Throne in this game as well. Some people are trying to say like

1254
01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.680
it's like dark Souls, like,
well, the roles, the roles.

1255
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.520
One thing, like the tutorial straight
up says like the first half of the

1256
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:00.119
role is invincible. But then you're
not, like, like that that's never

1257
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:05.760
been done before. Jez. Yeah, and that's anyway. Yeah, they

1258
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.920
have a lot of stuff that references
other games in there as well. But

1259
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:13.800
yeah, it's uh, it's well
made. Yeah, it's got a good

1260
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.560
look. Yeah I was, I
was. Yeah, there's some really excellent

1261
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.239
pixel art animation in that game and
some some just the way things move an

1262
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:23.960
anime is really impressive. A little
bit of camera issues with boss fights where

1263
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.279
they'll go off screen and talk about
the co op for sure. Yeah,

1264
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:30.640
the cops weird because the cop character
is limited to the cultist, Like there's

1265
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.079
one character that you can play when
you're the cop character, and it's super

1266
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:39.039
not obvious that like that is how
you even start co op in the quick

1267
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.159
look had a hard time, like
wait a minute, what okay? And

1268
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:47.960
it's local yeah, locally. Yeah
that's kind of a bummer. Yeah,

1269
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.239
it's not unexpected. But at the
same time, yeah, it would be

1270
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:55.720
great to see more games just get
on the internet, because I don't have

1271
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.399
people in my house that don't want
to play Enter the Gungeon with or period,

1272
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:00.319
but there are and people in the
house that want to play Enter the

1273
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:05.920
Gungeon with me. That's true.
Is actually the right anyway the right answer

1274
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:11.920
there you guys making any like real
prior progress yet I've been on the third

1275
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.760
floor a few times. Is that
third floor of the I don't I don't

1276
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.000
know how long the game is or
how much it is five floors, but

1277
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.640
is it just the five floors or
is it like it is five floors?

1278
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:24.399
But you should play it again because
there's stuff, there's like a there are

1279
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:28.520
persistent unlocks and persistent items that you
find, like I didn't know if you

1280
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.880
I didn't know if you did those
five floors and then move on to like

1281
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.199
another set of five floors and then
it's and that's just that's just it.

1282
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:38.880
Yeah. Interesting. So I haven't
made it past the second floor yet,

1283
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:42.399
so but yeah, there are there
are items you need to collect to build

1284
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:45.000
a weapon along the way that will
then be the thing that you use to

1285
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:48.000
finish it. For real, I
think is that the Gungeon? Are you

1286
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:53.359
building the Gungeon? No, you
are in the gunge that can kill the

1287
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.199
pass. I don't know what the
name of it is, okay, because

1288
01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:59.439
you have to build it. So
I thought it was more like Enter the

1289
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.800
Dragon. No, it's it's it's
more literal than that. When you open

1290
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.439
up the shop and stuff like,
they start talking about No, they throw

1291
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.600
the guns down in the Gungeona Korean
Abdul Jabbar is like in one of the

1292
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:13.000
bosses. All right, yeah,
okay, yeah, it's it's a weird.

1293
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:14.960
It's a weird game. I don't
know. Yeah, it's neat,

1294
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.600
it's cool. I want to play
more of it. Just dark Souls happened

1295
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.680
and I had to put it down. But it's still happening, Brett.

1296
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:25.000
I know that Gungeon will be around. Nice to have a roguelike to just

1297
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:28.640
pop into whenever you feel like it, you know, like Necro Dancer was

1298
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.479
that for me for quite a while. I started, yeah, something you

1299
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:33.840
just like, I'm gonna just do
a couple of runs and sit down for

1300
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.720
twenty minutes after I get home before
dinner. They did like three times at

1301
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:41.039
the Rogue Legacy on different systems,
Like that's great. It's just it's yeah,

1302
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.920
it's good to have something you can
just pop off for twenty minutes and

1303
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:45.640
be done with. I kind of
want to play Rogue Legacy again. It's

1304
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:48.439
great. It's still great. I've
gone through three times now, and it's

1305
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:50.600
so much fun. Every time.
I had a great time when I finishing

1306
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:54.760
him. Every time I didn't do
the like Superboss stuff, like you know

1307
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.399
when you fight him again in that
weird alternate world or whatever. But I

1308
01:16:57.520 --> 01:16:59.960
think I've beaten it three times.
I've gotten to what is his name?

1309
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:01.880
Is it Alexander? The name of
the giant skeleton from the end of the

1310
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:06.760
second world in that game. All
right, wait, I forget which one

1311
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:10.720
is the eyeball? Yeah, and
get the second guys, I got I've

1312
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:13.439
gotten too on both I got on
PC NPS four, I got to that

1313
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:15.359
giant skeleton thing at the end of
the second world and just put it down

1314
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:18.760
both times whatever reason. I don't
know why that's my cutoff point. Huh.

1315
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:21.760
It gets cool as you get all
those different ruins and equipment pieces and

1316
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.399
stuff, so you can decide,
like, well I went two jumps and

1317
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.640
then one dash and then you know
all those different things you canna equip.

1318
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:33.720
Yeah, totally all right. I
think that's it for games I've been playing.

1319
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:38.279
Anybody else got anything that Battle Born
Open Beta? Right, Well,

1320
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:40.720
I only played that one match on
Friday, and I played one match on

1321
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:45.520
Friday as well, which maybe it's
running all week. We should maybe spend

1322
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.079
more time with it. Worse,
that game is almost out, so it

1323
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:50.920
didn't necessarily inspire me to want to
spend more time with it. Yeah,

1324
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:56.039
in terms of what that thing is, I don't know. It's just this.

1325
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.279
I don't I don't care about the
MOBI is the same way you do.

1326
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:02.119
But I definitely agree with you that
there are things about that game in

1327
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.800
terms of like situational awareness and stuff
where there's like a lot happening, especially

1328
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.680
you played the character with the big
chain gun, where it's like, here's

1329
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:13.359
a full third of the screen taken
up with arm and gun congratulations. Yeah,

1330
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:15.560
and everything just feels so claustrophobic,
like if it's an FV thing.

1331
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:19.199
It didn't help with that character is
super slowly. Even the aiming seems to

1332
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:23.600
be tuned to be very slurged,
the damage she's putting out and stuff.

1333
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.600
But yeah, I don't know,
man, like that just I am more

1334
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.680
of a fan of shooters than I
am of MOBAs and that game. The

1335
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:35.079
times I've played it, well it's
been in development over the past year,

1336
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:40.920
it has not made me want to
engage further. But I keep coming back

1337
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:43.840
to it and going like, well, like like I want to see what

1338
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:47.560
they're doing, Like what it is
about this that they're doing this instead of

1339
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:50.680
making a you know, Borderland's three
or you know or something else. What

1340
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:54.439
is it that makes this hobby grade? What is it? Yes? Yeah?

1341
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.199
Sure, yeah? Yes? What
is it about this that was like

1342
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.239
you know that it got announced with
such fan fair and is it really just

1343
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:05.239
getting its lunch completely eaten by stuff
like Overwatch and and to some extent like

1344
01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:10.319
Paragon or something like Well, those
are two interesting examples because like Overwatch is

1345
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.920
a pure yeah, Overwatches, like
all the way on one end and all

1346
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:15.600
the way. Yeah. Right,
and this game seems to be trying to

1347
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:19.439
split the difference but not necessarily capitalizing
on the strengths of either right, either

1348
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:24.239
genre. Yeah, I mean even
even something like a Monday Not Combat or

1349
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:28.479
something seemed like just better at executing. Yeah, this style, I don't

1350
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.319
know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Man Like,

1351
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:33.079
like we were saying, people are
going to keep trying to chase that Mobi

1352
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.880
money, keep trying to chase some
kind of esports money, that hobby grade

1353
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:42.840
money. There's still a lot of
it out there. But yeah, I

1354
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:45.520
don't know. I'm chasing that me
Tomo money. That's not a game.

1355
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:48.680
Three more, I can't talk here
and me Tomo Drop is a game.

1356
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:53.880
So I got my pancake suit.
John on John on Twitter says Dark Souls

1357
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:57.319
three PC players unequip your shield before
approaching the first spontfire to avoid the crash.

1358
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:00.119
The desktop is becoming a thing with
work rounds. Now, this is

1359
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:04.640
actually happening. What are you running
a Twitter search? Yeah? My Twitter

1360
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:11.399
search is Dark Souls Crash. That's
pretty good. E Partamente ten Crash No

1361
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:16.119
Primari Bonfire dov Versal Final do Dark
Souls three? All right, there you

1362
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:20.800
have. I think that's Portuguese definitive
word. I bet this. I'm probably

1363
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:25.159
pronouncing all that right right, Sure, yeah I could. I can vet

1364
01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.439
Dark Souls three bugs to hit me
after five minutes of play, first save

1365
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:31.520
point broken, slash disabled, exit
save, then causes PC crash. Seriously.

1366
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:36.640
Yeah, it's happening, damn it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

1367
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:42.800
I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna
go to the steam form. Put

1368
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:45.520
your crashes in here, reads this
forum thread. Title says nothing but heart's

1369
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:59.000
in there game crashing. Mm hmm. Yeah. Let's see mine crash after

1370
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:02.840
we use the first bonfire and crashed
again at the same place. So I've

1371
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:06.560
got a hybrid. Crashes up first
bonfire, first bonfire for me, same

1372
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:11.600
first bonfire, same for me.
Crashed at first bonfire. That's like six

1373
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.000
posts. First bonfire, same at
first bonfire, crashed five times. Now

1374
01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:25.920
first bonfire got two first bonfire,
crashed first bonfire twice. We'll see,

1375
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:30.000
we will see. And yet they
knew about this. Yeah, yeah,

1376
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.399
it may just be one of those
things that's really hard to Maybe they narrow

1377
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.960
down exactly what's causing it or something. Yeah, I hope it's I hope

1378
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.079
it's not a thing. Like I'm
not trying to like, I mean,

1379
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:41.680
obviously people need to know if this
is happening, but like the game is

1380
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.640
really good, and I hope that
they would get it fixed. Yeah,

1381
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.880
chuck, because people should play it. So how much time are you spending

1382
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.600
with Matoma? I get my daily
bonus every day, I get my game

1383
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:56.640
tickets in my gold I gotta get
my popularity and style levels up. I'd

1384
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:00.319
think around there, I'd like to
see who's active, play a little bit

1385
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:01.800
of me. Tomo drops So I
mean, I'm not playing like an hour

1386
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.800
a day, but I'm loaded up
for fifteen twenty minutes. You know,

1387
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:09.880
a land bed and just reads answers
answer a few things. It's charming and

1388
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:15.239
weird in a tom adout you life
Nintendo weird ask kind of way. What

1389
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:18.279
kind of questions are they asking?
Just like, oh God, it does

1390
01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:23.199
weird stuff, like it trolls you
with one it says the question it asks

1391
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:27.479
you is okay, imagine a field
of flowers in your mind. How many

1392
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.039
flowers do you see? And people
will put stuff like seven or a billion

1393
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:35.359
or infinite numbers, and then when
it shows you other people's answers, like

1394
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:39.960
Jeff, let's say you said seven, like how many flowers you see?

1395
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:44.840
When it says it to me,
it's like, oh uh, Jeff answered

1396
01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:46.279
the question how many people do you
want to date in your life? And

1397
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.079
he said seven? Well, no, that's not what they say. They

1398
01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:54.319
say like that flowers, the question
about that flowers blooming question, that that

1399
01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:57.600
thing exists outside of me, Tomo. That question, what do you mean?

1400
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:00.359
That question is a is a real
life thing it, you know,

1401
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.800
but it says the question about the
flowers blooming, question about how many people

1402
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.399
you want to why? And presented
that way because it's something that like happens,

1403
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:10.239
like that question exists outside of me, Tomo. They didn't just dream

1404
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.479
it up for this, like the
flowers blooming in your mind equates to a

1405
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.680
number of people. You're just like
a phrase or that's yeah, that that

1406
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:17.920
exists. Oh well I've never heard
that. And I saw a ton of

1407
01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:20.600
comments on stuff like you're a married
man, why do you say you want

1408
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:25.319
to date a million people? Yeah? Yeah, weird. That's that's because

1409
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:28.640
that thing's fucking dumb. That's why. It's because me tomos it in a

1410
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.359
good way. A fucking chump's game. Man, that thing is a scam.

1411
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.840
It's a funny in three months when
it's asking you like, what are

1412
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:38.840
the last four digits? If you're
Social Security card, like, you're gonna

1413
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:45.640
see the fucking real aim of me
Tomo. You're too distrustful of corporations,

1414
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.840
dude, it's still there for fun. Are you more likely to buy Ego

1415
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.800
brand wall? Yeah, it's not
right. Like this thing seems like it

1416
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:56.279
is fucking halfway to market research.
They're not data mining. It's a fun

1417
01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:00.399
stuff. It's literally like, what
what book or movie have you liked recently?

1418
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.439
A fun discussion that they can then
sell later. I don't think it's

1419
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:06.880
that in the city is. I
think it's just fun with silly mees.

1420
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:11.760
When was the last time I felt
deeply moved? And what moved me?

1421
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.439
Also like this is this This game
has taught me a couple of things.

1422
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:16.800
One, it's like, as far
as much as I like my friends,

1423
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:20.279
I don't give a fuck what they
think about any of this shit. It's

1424
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:23.000
like, what do you think of
when you think of the word ninja?

1425
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:28.319
I don't fucking care. That's the
Oh the voices are silly and fun,

1426
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.479
and you can just tap through and
it'll just like it'll roll these things out

1427
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:34.039
like over and over again, about
like all your friends answering the same questions

1428
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:36.920
over and over again. It's like, here's what nine people I know,

1429
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:44.479
at various levels of intimacy saying things
about like the word ninja, what about

1430
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.439
the fun? What about the me
photos of the day? They're always silly.

1431
01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:49.920
I've just started making mine super stupid. Okay, I've just started,

1432
01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:54.279
like I like those, writing crip
crazy over all of them and putting them

1433
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:57.640
out like I don't know. I
also kind of stopped playing it at one

1434
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:01.479
point, deleted all my answers,
and then like I saw people kind of

1435
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:05.439
getting into it. This is last
week. I saw people starting to get

1436
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:06.760
into it a little deeper, and
I was like, all right, well,

1437
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:11.119
I'll give it another shot. So
I started re aanswering those questions and

1438
01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:13.039
then going a little more, going
a little more, and I was like,

1439
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.279
Nope, fuck, this this thing's
actually terrible. I guess what is

1440
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:19.319
the harm? Even if they are
like do you like Ego brand waffles?

1441
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:21.560
Like, who gives a shit?
It's not it's not like you know,

1442
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.600
the pay me for that. I'm
not I'm not giving that shit away for

1443
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:30.279
free. That's my premit. I'm
not gonna endorse fucking products for Nintendo.

1444
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.960
They're not like taking a screenshot and
putting it on the waffle box. Not

1445
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:38.640
yet. They want you to do
that. Yeah, you're doing it for

1446
01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:40.359
them. They can day to mind
this shit out of me. I have

1447
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:42.960
no problem. No, I know
it's I'm well aware that you want to

1448
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.439
interact with brands full time. I
love brands. I know, I know

1449
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:50.359
there are brands that I like.
What's my favorite TV show right now?

1450
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:55.720
Yeah, exactly what that is one
of them? What's your favorite TV show

1451
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.000
right now? That's the thing people
talk about. That's a great thing that

1452
01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.640
you could sell the TV companies and
say, hey, hey, you know

1453
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.199
sixty percent of people said something that
is not actually airing on television. The

1454
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:06.079
chord cutting is real. Like,
there's a lot of fucking real data that

1455
01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.640
they could get out of this stuff. But then what's the harm in that?

1456
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.479
I just don't understand how that hurts
you as a user. They should

1457
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:15.960
be way more upfront about all of
that stuff. If that's they're intend to

1458
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:18.319
use it, if they're deliberately saying
we are not going to use it this

1459
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.119
way. They should be out there
saying it not in some long terms of

1460
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:24.960
service, right, just straight up
say here's what we do with the data

1461
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.000
we collect. Okay, my guy's
naked and he's doing pirouettes and that's kind

1462
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:31.119
of see it's funny. No,
it's it's just one of those things where

1463
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:33.239
like I can sit there and tap
through it and it's like, this is

1464
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:35.960
great, it's passing time. I
don't care about any of this. And

1465
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.239
then ask me a question. I
go like, fuck you, who are

1466
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:42.920
you to ask me that video game? I happily give it my answer.

1467
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.399
That thing just seems to know is
a giant, cold, calculating profit making

1468
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:56.239
apparatus. They're a fun factor that
exists to serve its shareholders and fun factory,

1469
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.600
meaning like a Plato fun factory.
Like they just ooze out star shaped

1470
01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:01.000
stuff all the time, and you're
just like, this is like poop,

1471
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:06.800
but it's like a star poop.
Sorry, sorry, star Fox. Nintendo's

1472
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:11.279
not your friend. I like Nintendo. What do you think about the word

1473
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:16.800
grin Nina? That's stupid, that's
stupid. Alright, make sure we can

1474
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:23.279
agree on at least one on premier
crash Sir Dark Souls three operate thirty minutes.

1475
01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:29.000
Desu oh dude trop cool says you
say, sweet pass dude out objective.

1476
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:32.399
Can we trans translate bonfire into like
all languages? Yes, we should

1477
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:39.119
make that a meme T shirt.
Just crash it first bonfire in every language.

1478
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.960
I got way too deep into this
thread while you guys were arguing about

1479
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:47.880
me. Tomo there, Okay,
I'm on page eighteen now five times at

1480
01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:54.680
first bonfire, first and second bonfire
crashed. The first bonfire, Uh,

1481
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:59.920
I just went around the water and
it didn't crash. From that shifty disc

1482
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:02.479
chord full of Roy's boys friend is
reporting a lot of crashes on a seven

1483
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:09.279
eighty. Somebody, somebody in the
thread hit on the same solution Vinnie found

1484
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:12.239
of if you drop all the graphic
settings to low, it doesn't crash.

1485
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:17.119
When we had an happyf there was
a weird like invisible wall like before that

1486
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:19.720
bonfire that we tried walking into.
It eventually let me through and then a

1487
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:23.239
crash. I think that was actually
just something like it wasn't invisible wall.

1488
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:25.439
There was just if you saw there
was a little lip on that yeah,

1489
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:28.319
ground texture like it seems like I
don't know if that was related to the

1490
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.760
crash. It seems like that's that's
maybe like a bad surface or I feel

1491
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:35.920
like i've nah, I walked over
that service before. Yeah, it felt

1492
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:39.840
off to me for sure. Anyway, Okay, who the fuck knows?

1493
01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:44.560
Don't walk as ye, don't just
walk around the fucking just don't use a

1494
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:46.159
bonfire, like, what's wrong with
you? Just don't get a seven hundred

1495
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:48.039
series in video card. Just go
buy a new video cards? What are

1496
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.960
you doing? Man? Just don't
save or Hei makes video cards. Just

1497
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:54.680
don't save or heal your whole way
through the game. Maybe your mother board

1498
01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:57.359
has sweet onboard graphics. You could
just go with that. Never sit at

1499
01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:00.399
a bonfire, just no scope of
that game. That's wrong with you.

1500
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:05.039
Let's talk about news. There was
next to no news this week. I

1501
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:12.079
have two headlines headlines in quotes.
All right, because here is the most

1502
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:17.960
headline of headlines that I have.
Remember Evolution Studios, makers of Drive Club,

1503
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:21.880
Yes, and how Sony shut them
down? Code Masters has swooped in

1504
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:27.720
and not exactly like they didn't acquire
the studio as such. More that,

1505
01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.239
like many of the people that are
stuff together. It sounds like they have

1506
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:33.920
that. It sounds like they have
extended job offers to the majority of that

1507
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:39.279
studio to remain a studio working on
driving games. That's that's pretty great.

1508
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.439
Yeah, which is cool because I
mean, you know, like Drive Club

1509
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:45.920
was what it was, but like
that, a motor Storm a studio pumps.

1510
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.800
They've did some some solid work over
the years. People, Yeah,

1511
01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:55.119
when's the last when's the last motor
Storm Apocalypse? Yeah? I think so

1512
01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.279
that sounds right. There was the
one they had to delay because it was

1513
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.119
right at the time of the tsunami. Was that Pacific wasn't motor Storm,

1514
01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:09.439
Pacific Rift wasn't Maybe the timing was
pretty terrible. Storm Pacific RIM would be

1515
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.520
awesome. It was Pacific, it
wasn't Pacific Rim was thought was good.

1516
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.319
And the other one, Yeah,
there's motor Storm, then there was Apocalypse

1517
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:21.520
I think, and then maybe yeah
Pacific Rift is yeah, it's before apocalypse.

1518
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:27.000
Okay, okay, So that was
motor Storm RC is technically the last

1519
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:30.760
they did four motor Storms. That
was the Vida game. She's there was

1520
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:33.199
like an RC. I don't know
if they didn't. Yeah, that that's

1521
01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:38.640
our that's motor Storm RC for p
S three and Vita. Did they develop

1522
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:42.159
that? They did? They apparently
did? I think gets played Arctic Edge

1523
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:47.960
for psp PS two. Okay anyway, yeah, code code Masters shoring up

1524
01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:53.840
there development of Driving one. Viny
Caravella reports new threat on Steam. Dark

1525
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:57.880
Souls three Prepared to Crash edition is
the title of it, and rough.

1526
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:04.039
Yeah, we'll see developing stories.
Stay tuned. Uh. Mike Hacking,

1527
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:08.000
the director of Evolution, gave a
couple of choice quotes that they were a

1528
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:12.319
quote, very happy to be able
to go forward and work on multiple platforms

1529
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.600
and work on new IP. Yeah, that's probably I tried not multiple platform

1530
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:18.840
I tried not to read too much
into that statement, but but yeah,

1531
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:24.479
hey they could make games for more
than just Sony and more than just motor

1532
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.399
Storm. The crash fix of setting
your lighting quality to low is starting to

1533
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:31.479
go around. Okay, all right, anyway, that's that's a bad solution,

1534
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:35.600
but it is a solution. Yeah
anyway, Yeah, it's kind of

1535
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:40.159
a little feel good story there about. Yeah, that's cool that they stick

1536
01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:44.319
together. And also, I mean
code Masters has been known for like really

1537
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:47.520
really caring about racing games, so
yeah, yeah, I will be interested

1538
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:51.159
to see what that team does next. I wonder if they would go back

1539
01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:55.920
and try to make something that was
similar to but not using the IP name

1540
01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:58.680
of motor Storm. I don't know, because there seemed to be a lot

1541
01:31:58.680 --> 01:32:00.800
of people that kind of wanted that. Yeah, but Drive Club is definitely

1542
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:03.359
a more serious driving game than they
had done in the past, right,

1543
01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:11.600
I mean, I can't speak.
It's definitely not big motor Storm is flashy,

1544
01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:15.359
drifty, crazy arcady style racing,
which is not in vogue these days.

1545
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:20.039
But yeah, but it should be. Yeah type of driving game was

1546
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:25.079
big. Who's got the Rush License? Warner Brothers, you should do something

1547
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:30.239
with that. Who's got Blur Activism? Second? Yeah, that'd be Disney

1548
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.119
Okay, Right, there was like
that run of crazy, wacky over the

1549
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:38.399
top there. Oh no, it's
a lot of it's not more let's not

1550
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:40.520
be crazy. Yeah. I thought
it was a bad car combat game,

1551
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.920
but but it's it's like wipeout style, Like it's not arena car combat Full

1552
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.279
Out two. It's like Races had
a lot of the a lot more of

1553
01:32:46.319 --> 01:32:49.920
the arena stuff. I think.
I think I could be wrong. There's

1554
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:54.159
flat out Yeah, I thought that's
kind of a different thing. They had

1555
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:56.920
the weird things like giant dart board
that you would have launched the driver at.

1556
01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:59.479
Yeah. I kind of like that
zy type stuff like that. I

1557
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:02.359
was trying to find did didn't they
have one other major ip that they worked

1558
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:08.520
on besides motor Storm and Drive Club
Evolution? Let me or did I make

1559
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:12.600
that up? I can look?
Let me look. Okay, I'm a

1560
01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:18.920
clock here. They did the w
RC games, so yeah, they were

1561
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:21.800
Yeah, they were acquired in O
seven by Sony, so they had a

1562
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:26.399
history prior to Sony, prior to
motor Storm where they were doing the World

1563
01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:30.039
Rally Championship games. Okay, so
they got some driving shops for sure.

1564
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.319
Yeah, absolutely. All right,
here is the only other headline that I

1565
01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:36.880
have. How do you guys feel
about a potentially undiscovered neo geo game coming

1566
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.880
to light? I think this is
really exciting that was starting to go around

1567
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.920
today and how it came about as
we came in here. Exciting. Yeah,

1568
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:49.119
like someone bought a board and thought
they would like board. Geo fan

1569
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:54.720
Brian Hargrove, according to this story
from d Gadget, Yeah, bought an

1570
01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:59.720
unlabeled ROM for six hundred dollars at
a Japanese auction. Yeah, and hoping

1571
01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:00.520
that I don't think it was.
I don't know there was a Japanese auction.

1572
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:03.319
I want to see you've got it
somewhere weird, hungry or something.

1573
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.279
I don't know. Anyway, this
story says Japanese auction. But but six

1574
01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:11.279
hundred bucks seems like a lot for
an unlabeled rom that might be full of

1575
01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:13.439
garbage. But if you're looking at
that thing, you know it's like a

1576
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.920
this is like a prototype neo geoboard. You know, it's something weird and

1577
01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:23.399
also like So that's the stuff with
Maime is that so many arcade boards are

1578
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:26.640
commonplace now to the people that have
been looking at them that way for so

1579
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:30.560
long that people in that scene,
when they see something they don't recognize or

1580
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:31.479
something that they know might be a
prototype, they go like, well,

1581
01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:34.279
we need to get this so we
can preserve it. So they're buying it

1582
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:38.039
with that in mind. Okay,
so he was he probably had an expectation

1583
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.079
that he would easily make that back. No, no, no, is

1584
01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:43.880
he one of the people in this
scene. Okay, never mind, he's

1585
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:46.479
not just a middleman, no no, So so it seems like he picked

1586
01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:50.760
this thing up, and certain aspects
of the program code were stored on like

1587
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:56.479
s RAM cards that go bad,
so it had like literal like watch batteries

1588
01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:01.039
that we're dead and so like sound
and like the fonts and stuff like that

1589
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:04.359
were on these cards. Man.
But anyway, so he started looking into

1590
01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:06.640
it, and it looked like the
ram IDs and stuff like all the neo

1591
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:11.920
geo stuff has kind of a set
a set id and itched mashed up with

1592
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.760
like Voltage Fighter, gau Kaiser or
something, and so he was like,

1593
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.159
oh, well, maybe this is
a gau Kaiser prototype, I don't know

1594
01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:19.640
whatever, and kind of threw it
aside and then started sucking around with it

1595
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:23.079
a little bit more, got it
to boot up, noticed a menu that

1596
01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:26.600
he had not seen in any other
things before. Doug a little deeper and

1597
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:33.159
suddenly found a fighting game like playable
missing a lot of stuff because these these

1598
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:38.520
other rams are not there right to
provide sound and fonts and all that sort

1599
01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:43.279
of ship, but was able to
get it to boot. And they don't

1600
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:46.560
know the name of it because the
fonts are gone or something, or maybe

1601
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:49.319
there's just no title screen in the
program at all. Do you know if

1602
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.079
do you know if that means the
actual text is gone or just the fonts

1603
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:57.720
that the text actually is that if
they find a replacement, so they have

1604
01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:00.800
they have hacked a font onto it
and at least got like menus and at

1605
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:03.760
least got like character names and stuff
like that. So character names show up

1606
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:09.159
you when you pick character. You
pick like basically chaotic, neutral or good.

1607
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.600
Yeah, like people like alignments.
This story is super weird. The

1608
01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:14.920
story is basically dragon. Yeah.
The story is speculating that this actually was

1609
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.479
like the an early form of a
D and D fighting game or something.

1610
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:20.920
It could be just stretch. I
don't know that s in K or a

1611
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:26.479
DK or anybody that would have been
I don't know that they would have had

1612
01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:30.279
that license. Yeah, was a
stranger too, like playing around with aspects

1613
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:34.039
of other people's IP back then that
maybe they were fiddling with that stuff.

1614
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:39.399
Yeah without the license. Yeah,
everything that I thought I wasn't like really

1615
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:42.840
saying D and D to me,
other than the alignment. But yeah,

1616
01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:45.399
there's footage of it running out right
now. So it looks neat, it

1617
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.920
looks like a prototype, it looks
unfinished, and there's no life bars or

1618
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:51.279
anything like that, because that all
that stuff got lost in the dust.

1619
01:36:51.359 --> 01:36:55.039
That's I think I think they.
I saw some mother footage that did have

1620
01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:58.640
send timer up on top of it. Looked like super placeholders. Thus,

1621
01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:01.000
I don't know if they just so
maybe they're fobbling it together or any anyway

1622
01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:06.079
in some form. So this then
got sent on to hey Is David Heywood,

1623
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:11.800
who's part of the main team,
and then it is making its way

1624
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:14.760
into main Oh wow, so it'll
be out there, and then it means

1625
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:16.760
that people can fuck with it.
Jeesus at some point that's unexpected, and

1626
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:19.560
they're trying to get this thing out
there for people to see it so that

1627
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:25.079
eventually someone who worked on it can
step forward. Here's what this was because

1628
01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:29.039
they don't know. Yah, that's
it's wild to not even have a name

1629
01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:31.880
for this thing. Damn. I
think it's just sitting here on this rom

1630
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:35.680
board for the last twenty six years. Yeah, that's that's super exciting stuff

1631
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:41.239
like that turns up. That's cool. Yeah for sure. Sorry, I'm

1632
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:44.319
just giving this story to see if
there's any other kind of pertinent details.

1633
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.720
Didn't didn't SMK get sued by Capcom
over all the fighting games that got sued

1634
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:51.800
by somebody, right, probably I
don't. I don't know. I'd swear

1635
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:57.279
there was like that sounds I swear
some litigation took place over the street Fighter

1636
01:37:57.319 --> 01:38:00.840
clones. No, that was that
was data each with Fighter's history, cap

1637
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.960
on with them over Fighter's history,
because like the one guy had like a

1638
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.560
CD spin projectile move that looked just
like a sonic boom And was that a

1639
01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:12.960
near ger game? No, that
was just an ourcasecade They came to snass

1640
01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:17.039
eventually gotten that stuff next time.
And it's so I actually saw some of

1641
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:20.199
the tapes that got presented as evidence
in that thing where it was Capcom making

1642
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:25.399
these tapes comparing Wow, comparing elements. Man, I want to see those

1643
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:30.199
tapes. Two elements of Fighter's history. I'll talk to I'll i'll see if

1644
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:33.960
those still exists. Do you get
a line on those? I know who

1645
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.520
to ask. Oh, yeah,
I know who to ask about it.

1646
01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:41.800
So I'll check the man you try, don't check you were there for this.

1647
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:45.319
I recently became aware that I was
in possession of something like an old

1648
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:47.520
prototype piece of software that somebody very
badly wanted to get their hands on.

1649
01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:53.039
Yeah, and I had no idea
i'd had any value whatsoever. I don't

1650
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:55.439
remember what this is. I'll tell
you later, Okay, I don't even

1651
01:38:55.439 --> 01:38:57.079
know if I was supposed to say, it's not even a big deal,

1652
01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:00.239
right, yes, yeah, it
seemed like any kind of a big deal.

1653
01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:02.600
It was just like a little one
off CDR I have from the ran

1654
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:05.960
on a PS two D bug right
for something dumb. Yeah, I see

1655
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.960
there's a little event that thing I
didn't even know existed. I had not

1656
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:12.760
heard of it. I hadn't thought
about it in ten years or something,

1657
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.399
And and he happened to mention they
was looking for it, and I was

1658
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:16.640
like, oh, I've got that
in a CD wall out of my house,

1659
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:20.640
and you're like he was like,
holy shit. Yeah, game preservation

1660
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:24.159
is weird. There's a lot of
stuff floating around out there, Yeah,

1661
01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:27.119
that somebody wants to get their hands
on at all times. Yeah, for

1662
01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:30.560
sure. I've got a weird like
prototype version of what Phantom Breaker. I

1663
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.960
think that didn't get brought out to
the US here. Yeah, like yeah,

1664
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.000
like it was a completely mocked up
box like art and everything, like

1665
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:41.359
he's put it out at a printer
and uh yeah, It's just the type

1666
01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:43.520
of thing you get your hands on
when you work in the press and end

1667
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:45.840
up with like early versions of games
that don't necessarily come out in that five

1668
01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:49.800
games with like a claim license at
like a claim business information on it that

1669
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:55.239
then got published by like THHQ,
Like what juiced the Driving game? Yeah,

1670
01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:57.239
that they were going to publish that. I think. I think THQ

1671
01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:02.479
eventually published Choose Shoosed Juice. But
like, who cares? Because A it's

1672
01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:05.640
juiced and many of the differences.
It says a claim on it. Somebody

1673
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.600
cares? Yeah, I mean no, I mean I promise you it's worth

1674
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:14.119
it's you know, it's in safe
hands. Yes, but yes, I

1675
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:16.079
should. I should make a copy
of that disc because it's a ten year

1676
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.800
old CDR you definitely, or DVDR
on I guess it would have been a

1677
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:23.520
DVD. I don't even seen it
such it was. It was, it

1678
01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:26.319
was, it was. It was
a tiny little demo. Yeah, just

1679
01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:28.960
check on that. All right,
let's move on to the emails. Then

1680
01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:30.800
that was it for news. Titan
faul to us? Is that new?

1681
01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:32.880
I mean, I mean, but
like they put out a teaser, that's

1682
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.079
all they'll say more. I mean, like they they they're gonna say Titan

1683
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:39.920
Fall two. It's happening. But
I mean also they have talked about it,

1684
01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:43.119
like respond has talked about titan Fall
two so in public before. Yes,

1685
01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:45.800
but the only the actual new the
actual new information here is that they're

1686
01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:49.720
calling it titan Fall two because they
Zampella was kind of wishy washy on if

1687
01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:53.079
that was gonna be the title,
that swear they had used those ones,

1688
01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:57.439
and it is PS four, Xbox
one, and PC, which they will

1689
01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.479
be multiplatform before. But this is
at least them nailing down platform swords.

1690
01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.720
Yeah, that the teaser has like
a sword going into the ground at one

1691
01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:09.520
point from a human hand or wait
a minute, all right, still going

1692
01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:13.119
that direction with the mets. It's
still no, these are not the you

1693
01:41:13.159 --> 01:41:15.479
see the mech kind of stomp up
and it is not a Mecca looking like

1694
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:19.359
lithe little style. It's like,
I don't know if you get to have

1695
01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:23.199
it both ways. Yeah, I
don't know. You've either got your your

1696
01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:27.720
giant anime ninja robots or you're walking
tanks. I'm not sure. Yeah,

1697
01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.239
I was kind of thinking, wouldn't
it might be neat if this game was

1698
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:34.960
like, you know, Titans in
the traditional sense versus Yeah, like Gundam,

1699
01:41:35.039 --> 01:41:38.039
dude, just to straight up the
East meat West. Yeah, like

1700
01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.279
you're like new Faction enters the scene, here coming, here, come the

1701
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:45.920
Mecca out of Japan against the fucking
bipedal tanks the Western military industrial complex.

1702
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:47.159
But I just don't okay, I
mean you could balance that. I just

1703
01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:53.000
don't played if it'd be fun a
good specific rim game. Yeah cool,

1704
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:56.640
okay, keep saying sure, Yeah, all right, I'm on board.

1705
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:00.039
I am fully on board with that. Emails. Yeah, I've got a

1706
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.319
bunch of emails here, let's go
through some. The first one comes in

1707
01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:08.279
from Nathan in Ottawa. It's definitely
my favorite email of the week, so

1708
01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:11.560
I just decided to start the email
of the mail of the email of the

1709
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:17.760
week. Thanks Nathan. Video Games
CEO Battle Royale. If we threw the

1710
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:23.479
top video game company CEOs into a
cage, who would emerge victorious? I

1711
01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:26.119
think my money would be on Bobby
Kodick, as he strikes me as a

1712
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:30.119
guy who was willing to pull hair
and kick groins to win at all costs.

1713
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:33.840
Brass nuts Strouss's Elnick seems like he
could cause some damage to I think,

1714
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.399
Yeah, that's a good that's a
good dark horse pull. Yeah,

1715
01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:43.319
that is I would just maybe not
strauss Elic. But then what motherfucker is

1716
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:45.560
Reggie Possibility? Oh yeah, of
course he's a big dude. Yeah,

1717
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:49.000
Reggie is an imposing figure. He
would definitely get in there and do some

1718
01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:51.880
just some. Is he a CEO
or is he the president? He's the

1719
01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:57.680
president of Okay, you think we'll
counting him for this purpose? Or figure

1720
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:02.479
heads? Anybody who him see as
a press conference? I think yeah,

1721
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:06.000
belongs in this category. Does Jack
Tretton still count a fuck? Man?

1722
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:11.079
Phil Harrison? Because Jack Tretton Tretton
just pulls out the snub nose. It

1723
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:15.319
just does everybody and just like like
all right, you know I'm just like

1724
01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:20.720
yeah, yeah, sure, oh
man, now I now I really want

1725
01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:26.319
my my Dave Lang. Oh I
don't know, I've never have you ever

1726
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:30.920
seen Dave Lang fight Jeff? I
feel like you must have it? No,

1727
01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:33.960
No, I guess I guess Lang
does just belong in this discussion,

1728
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:38.680
doesn't he. Yeah, he's a
video game video games. He has a

1729
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:42.119
lot of energy, and he's a
large man. It's true he can take

1730
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:45.880
punishment and keep going. I've seen
that scares babies. I've seen that.

1731
01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:49.239
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
made your baby christ several times. Yeah,

1732
01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:51.880
yeah, I could see. I
bet, I bet Reggie can just

1733
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:57.960
channel like a rage and a fury. Yeah, that such that the fists

1734
01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:01.840
don't stop flying Canadian pizza hut fury
sure, just puts his head down and

1735
01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:04.560
charges. Just just just take that, take him down to the mat.

1736
01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:09.159
No. But if you just look
the guy with the beard in the background,

1737
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:11.319
ducks it right at the moment,
right, just the right moment,

1738
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:14.239
and you can get Reggie down.
It's not a problem. You just gotta

1739
01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:18.199
ten point timing. Yeah. Trying
to think who else belongs in this in

1740
01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:23.199
this cage match, I think Bobby
Kodak would be we would fight dirty.

1741
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:27.399
He would he would have like a
knife that got dipped in gasoline or something.

1742
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:31.239
They would just be like motherfucker's fully
with Nathan here on that one code

1743
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:41.359
will win at all costs. Uh
m hm. Any other candidates moving on.

1744
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:45.359
Homer would probably be barefoot, right, Yeah, there's the barefoot guys.

1745
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:48.880
They're barefoot because they like to kick. Yeah, that's kicking the octagon.

1746
01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:53.880
So that's because that could be pretty
serious. I feel like Phil Spencer

1747
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:57.079
would want a good, clean match, you know, like some some sweet

1748
01:44:57.079 --> 01:45:02.640
science ye, come out fighting,
but the belt type stuff Codex is like

1749
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:09.279
dipping his paper wrists in the shards
of glass. Yeah. And then,

1750
01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:13.439
for whatever reason, I feel like
Eve Gamo shows up and throws smoke bombs.

1751
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.600
I don't know why. Maybe maybe
and maybe yeah, maybe some throwing

1752
01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:20.239
knives or something. I don't know. I would love to see this happens,

1753
01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:25.039
burst out of a pile of hay. Somebody makes somebody make video game

1754
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:30.319
CEO the Fighting game. Don't don't
actually? Oh come on, well,

1755
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:33.960
all right, all right? Jared
and Sacramento back in seventh grade and my

1756
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.840
peers were split into two factions,
arguing endlessly about whether the Genesis was better

1757
01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:44.399
than the Supers. Except there was
one weird kid who tried to convince everyone

1758
01:45:44.479 --> 01:45:48.119
his Turbographic sixteen was the best of
all, always won because he could plays

1759
01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:51.720
and only one Yeah, how as
he could play Bond games. Everyone laughed

1760
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:56.279
at him. Ye was bonked.
The lamest console mascot ever? Or have

1761
01:45:56.479 --> 01:46:00.159
there been even lamer mascots that have
mercifully been for? I mean, like,

1762
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:04.399
is a great name, Yeah is
a really good name, Balk is

1763
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:08.760
a pretty good character killing motherfuckers with
but yeah, and a good mascot.

1764
01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:13.720
Yeah, he ate those geniant pieces
of meat. He's probably just in terms

1765
01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:15.560
of just like a Matt like.
Look, I love Alex Kidd. Let's

1766
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:21.760
not be crazy though, like Bonk
is a like more identifiable mascot character than

1767
01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:25.119
Alex Kid. I never have been. I don't know that Alex he had

1768
01:46:25.119 --> 01:46:29.840
ever ascended to mascot status for the
Master System yea, I guess. But

1769
01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:32.000
in terms of sixteen bit Caveman,
I give the edge to Joe and Max.

1770
01:46:32.359 --> 01:46:35.039
Joe whack Mac. Maybe I mean
them as a tandem team. I

1771
01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:39.199
mean they're both in the title.
Doesn't count the two of them that it

1772
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:44.520
was a better game. No,
Those dinosaur bosses were huge. Yeah,

1773
01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:47.000
and for Super Nintendo Joe and macan
Bonk had pretty big bosses, sue.

1774
01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:50.319
Yeah, and his head was large. I like the way his mouth got

1775
01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:53.560
all he got he got all scary
looking when he get us. Yeah.

1776
01:46:53.640 --> 01:46:55.920
Yeah, he got all creepy looking
when he would eat the meat. Yeah.

1777
01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:59.399
I likes that. And then air
Zonk came out, look came along,

1778
01:46:59.760 --> 01:47:04.560
Yeah, related a shooter like that's
a punk rock bunk lightning bold choice.

1779
01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:09.159
Balk's okay, nothing wrong with Bonk, but but yes, there was

1780
01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:13.479
always one one kid who had the
Turbographics in my circle of friends. That

1781
01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:16.399
kid was also the one w c
W fan, so he was just like

1782
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:21.439
across the board, just like what
shut up? Stop talking. I yes,

1783
01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:26.520
stings cool whatever, man, shut
up. I try to use Simpsons

1784
01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:30.800
references as sparingly as possible, but
it very much feels like Springfield Shelbyville situation

1785
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.039
of just like that's the guy who
likes all the weird stuff, yea,

1786
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:38.760
all the stuff from the other town. The people that I've known that have

1787
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:44.159
liked the Turbographics sixteen still claim that
that was the best console. It's awesome.

1788
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.920
I don't think I met anyone that
was like a Turbographics kid anyway,

1789
01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:50.319
it is awesome. I remember when
I bought mine from the flea market for

1790
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:55.359
not a lot of money because it
was the Turbographics and no one wanted one

1791
01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:58.119
back then. I remember thinking,
well, the price was right, because

1792
01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:00.680
this is kind of terrible. But
when you look at the full library and

1793
01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:03.319
you look at everything that came out
in Japan, when you take that into

1794
01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:06.319
account, like it's it's a formidable
console. Like there's a lot of cool

1795
01:48:06.319 --> 01:48:11.079
shit on there, especially like stuff
that didn't really appear anywhere else. I

1796
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:13.479
think it was cooler, yeah,
for me to own as I was a

1797
01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:15.840
little bit older and it could could
afford that stuff. But like as a

1798
01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:17.159
kid, I remember making that decision. It's like, fuck, do I

1799
01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:20.239
go to this or a genesis?
I would just rent it from video library

1800
01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:25.239
for like three days. Yeah,
man, I never had anywhere I could

1801
01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:28.640
rent it from. All I had
where screenshots. You just look at that

1802
01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:30.760
thing and go like it has one
controller port, Like, come on,

1803
01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:33.760
what is this thing? Like?
It looks barely better than Nintendo games.

1804
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:38.159
I really wanted to play Bonk though. Yeah, Bonk was pretty cool.

1805
01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:41.479
You want to talk about a lame
mascot, Keith Courage? Oh yeah,

1806
01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:45.560
pretty bonk manh yeah, Keith Courage
send him back to the Apha zone.

1807
01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:54.039
That guy, Okay, Joe from
New York Domains. It's the subject of

1808
01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:58.399
this email. You guys talking keep
I'm sorry you guys keep talking about domains

1809
01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:01.159
and stuff like a dot cool and
dot bike, but you're you're neglecting the

1810
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:06.119
dot vodka domain. My friend is
the proud owner of butt Chugs dot Vodka,

1811
01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:11.279
and I think you guys should consider
a dot vodka domain. Sadly vape

1812
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:14.800
dot vodka is already taken. Damn
it. I didn't know there was a

1813
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:16.560
dot vodka. Yeah, there's a
lot of there's I think there's like a

1814
01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:20.600
dot sexy now I don't know,
Yes, there is. Somebody pointed meat

1815
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:25.840
the giant bomb dot sexy recently.
Don't go there, Yeah, don't go

1816
01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:32.359
there. Actually, are there all
all manners of alcohol in top level domain

1817
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:35.119
form? I don't know. Somebody
who there are a ton of top level

1818
01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:39.359
domains. Yeah, somebody's weird.
Somebody was, was it Danny? Somebody

1819
01:49:39.399 --> 01:49:43.800
was telling me recently that registering domains
on different ones costs like wildly different amounts,

1820
01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.800
because like you will have a company
that like buys that entire thing,

1821
01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:50.720
so you deal with them to register
it, just like with certain countries if

1822
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:54.439
it's one of the country assigned domains, like they can go like, oh

1823
01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:58.199
well, if you want to register
one here in our cool, awesome top

1824
01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:00.840
level domain, then you got to
pay us a ton writing I can't remember

1825
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.640
what he said, was the super
expensive one that xxx is actually really expensive?

1826
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:09.159
Yes? What do they got f
one? Dot? Cool? Yeah?

1827
01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:13.039
Right, I want to say he
said cool. It was like relatively

1828
01:50:13.079 --> 01:50:15.359
inexpensive. Yeah, probably it's four
letters, that's yea. The longer it

1829
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:18.960
is, I bet the worst it
is. Also also, top level domains

1830
01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:23.880
over three letters are stupid. Top
level domains that are full words I think

1831
01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:28.640
are insane. Yea. I say
that as the owner of Jeff dot Zone.

1832
01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:32.560
Zone's pretty good, though. The
zone's all right? Uh, all

1833
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:38.680
right. Well, keeping with the
theme of vape dot Vodka, here's an

1834
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:44.520
email from Chris and Phoenix who says
vaping alcohol isn't great. Agreed. I

1835
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:47.359
can't imagine. I was listening to
last week's podcast and had a relevant story

1836
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:53.239
to your conversation on vaping alcohol.
In the early two thousands, smoking hookahs

1837
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:56.359
was all the rage in my college
town, and at one point I had

1838
01:50:56.359 --> 01:51:00.039
my own my roommate who called himself
Dizzle, and I would smoke it out

1839
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:05.720
on our balcony. Yeah, right, what do you think it was?

1840
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:09.840
Actually, do you think it was? Dave? Dave is absolutely the first

1841
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:12.600
thing I was going to say.
He explains what hook it is, which

1842
01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:15.640
people probably already know. He describes
it as a freestanding of the water.

1843
01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:19.960
I don't know whatever, hooka all
right, Fine, One day he came

1844
01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:24.079
home and this is Dizzle he's talking
about. One day he came home and

1845
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:27.439
told me that he heard a guy. I heard about a guy that put

1846
01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.920
a handle of vodka in the base
instead of water and was able to get

1847
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.920
super drunk while smoking without anything better
to do. That night, we drained

1848
01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:39.760
a bottle of smeared off into the
base and started puffing away. You have

1849
01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:44.119
no idea how much you're in taking, right, fuck, then sounds dumb.

1850
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:46.239
What followed I can only describe as
feeling the worst type of sick and

1851
01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.920
drunk I have ever felt. Within
five minutes, I started getting dizzy and

1852
01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:54.119
felt sick to my stomach. Every
movement was labored, and I couldn't get

1853
01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:58.079
up from the chair without massive effort. Dizzle appeared to be suffering the same

1854
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.840
effects, but my vision was already
blurring, so I couldn't really tell.

1855
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:02.800
I wanted to give up the experiment, but Dizzle said, there is no

1856
01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:05.840
way we're going to waste a full
handle of vodka, and he proceeded to

1857
01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:11.119
drunkenly disassemble the base from the tower
and to drink the smoke and ash laden

1858
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:15.439
vodka from the bottom of the hookah. He then seems like something a dizzel

1859
01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:19.359
would do yep as a dizzle do. He then lend it lead over our

1860
01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:23.720
third storty balcony and started throwing up
for what seemed like a solid four or

1861
01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:28.840
five minutes before collapsing onto the balcony. He goes on and on talking about

1862
01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:32.159
how he didn't have a hangover the
next morning. So there you go,

1863
01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:39.600
because he was dead. There's your
endorsement of hailing or none endorsement. Yeah,

1864
01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:42.359
wow, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'll do that.

1865
01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:48.359
There's just there's just no need for
that. I agree, all right.

1866
01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:54.439
Uh, there's an email from Mike. It's about Exhibit kind of. On

1867
01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:58.720
a recent episode of NPR's Wait Don't
Tell I'm sorry Wait Wait Don't Tell Me

1868
01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:02.319
is the name of the show,
actor Andre Royo claimed that he pimped his

1869
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:06.119
ride by keeping beta fish in said
ride. He declined to give any more

1870
01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:11.039
specifics, such as how many Beta
fish, but it got me thinking,

1871
01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:15.399
how would the Giant Bomb crew pimp
their rides? Would Dan have Exhibit install

1872
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:18.760
a crunch wrap Supreme Press. Would
Jeff's car show the p S three's XMB

1873
01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:24.720
on the dashboard for for turning on
the world is dying to know. Hey,

1874
01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:28.479
it would be autonomous so that I
could sleep. Okay, Yeah,

1875
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:30.520
it would be a car that I
don't have to drive. I don't think

1876
01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.199
you're gonna have to pimp a ride
to get that, though, they'd be

1877
01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:36.039
pretty pimped. That's all that's on
the way. Yeah, it's got an

1878
01:53:36.079 --> 01:53:40.199
updated I put put a fucking bed
in it. Update update the firmware in

1879
01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:42.920
your Tesla. You can have that
right now. Mine would just be Axel

1880
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:45.800
from Twisted Metal too, just the
two big wheels, except for not actually

1881
01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.960
having to attach my arms to the
waist. Wait, you would be in

1882
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:53.439
the I'm just in the middle and
I a cool shock wave thing. Okay,

1883
01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:55.520
except for I don't have to like
rip my arms out in the ending.

1884
01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:59.079
Yeah. Was it room for passengers? And where did they say?

1885
01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:01.359
I gotta have like a little sidecar. Yeah, that's true, like mister

1886
01:54:01.479 --> 01:54:08.920
Graham. Huh of all of the
Twisted vehicles? Yes, sweet tooth head

1887
01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:15.000
on top of a cop car right, uh with a semi truck bed like

1888
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:19.560
dark side Yeah, taxi doors like
yellow jacket mm hmm. Man twist smells

1889
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:28.159
great club kid from three Kid.
Yeah, and Rob Zombie is in the

1890
01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:30.279
sidecar. Excellent. Okay, now
we're talking. Yeah, I like that

1891
01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:36.560
idea directing a horror movie inside a
submarine from critical depth. All right,

1892
01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:40.600
this idea is coming together. Yeah, I like it. I'm on board

1893
01:54:40.600 --> 01:54:45.720
again. I have Rob Zombie's brother, that's all you have, and it's

1894
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:49.000
just like, wai Are they actually
related? Yeah? We were talking right

1895
01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:53.680
beforehand. I don't know if he
took the Zombie's surname, but it is

1896
01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:58.880
Rob Zombie's brother is the when World's
Collide guy. That sounds been stuck in

1897
01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:01.920
my head. All okay, I've
been fighting the urts so bad. What

1898
01:55:01.960 --> 01:55:06.640
else said? It's Supernova Goes Pop
and that Dudley Boys song. I was

1899
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:12.760
flipping through stations on my drive in
this morning and heard the flow Ride,

1900
01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.960
a song from Do You Have Any
Idea? How many times I heard that

1901
01:55:16.039 --> 01:55:20.600
and Dallas. It made me want
to die bump when it came off when

1902
01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:24.439
I flip and I and I didn't
turn it off like I it was fully

1903
01:55:24.479 --> 01:55:27.000
in my control, but I was
like, no, I need to see

1904
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:30.439
this through because fuck them, because
fuck me. Fuck this. It's bad

1905
01:55:30.479 --> 01:55:32.279
that we had the discussion in Dallas
that that was probably one of the better

1906
01:55:32.319 --> 01:55:36.760
WrestleMania themes of recent years, and
it was that flow Rider song back in

1907
01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:42.319
my day when Limp Biscuit performed crack
Addict, you had good WrestleMania music.

1908
01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:47.199
It's appropriate material. W w's favorite
band in the whole world is how they

1909
01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:50.960
announced Limp Biscuit twice. Wow,
that's still the case. Who is it

1910
01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:55.920
this year? This year is flow
Rider? Yeah? I was that Welcome

1911
01:55:55.960 --> 01:55:57.520
to My House song. No,
no, no, no, like who

1912
01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:02.319
is the musical act? And now
they had some American beautiful Okay, that's

1913
01:56:02.359 --> 01:56:09.600
right. I had never heard of
them. Yeah, all right, This

1914
01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:15.199
email comes in from John Lennon.
Okay, it says Skyrim came out nearly

1915
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:17.159
five years ago. What the fuck? That sounds about right? It's true

1916
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:24.359
John's he came back just to say, yeah, yeah, what the fuck?

1917
01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:29.560
Actually, yeah that No, that
sounds about right. Shouldn't feel like

1918
01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:33.239
that long ago. Yeah, they've
shipped a game since then, and we're

1919
01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:38.680
like, what the hell? I
guess it's instead of what the fuck?

1920
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:42.359
Yeah? Yeah? What too dirty
for you? No? I just I

1921
01:56:42.359 --> 01:56:44.760
don't I don't know how to respond
to this. I don't know. Passage

1922
01:56:44.760 --> 01:56:46.920
of time, man, Yeah,
it happens. It continues to have it's

1923
01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:53.079
alarming. Just imagine, like when
you listen to this podcast, it will

1924
01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:57.800
have been recorded in the past.
Imagine I know the entire world. We'll

1925
01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:00.439
be talking about that Dark Souls crash. By the time people hear this,

1926
01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:02.600
Yeah, we were there at the
beginning, the crash will have been fixed.

1927
01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:05.000
It's already solved. People are already
out there going like I just said

1928
01:57:05.039 --> 01:57:08.760
this to low people. Just get
around. People are out there ripping out

1929
01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:12.079
their seven seventies, that's right,
burning them in the streets. That's why

1930
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.760
this podcast needs to be delivered to
people in a more rapid fashion. Yes,

1931
01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:18.039
I suppose that's true, to get
the word out. Yes, right,

1932
01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:21.720
all right, Eric from Louisville,
Kentucky. That's a question. How

1933
01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:27.119
do you guys say Louisville, Louisville, Louisville slug believe it is. No

1934
01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:30.399
one says Louisville. Do you say
Louisville. No, I can say Louisville,

1935
01:57:30.479 --> 01:57:35.680
right, Louisville, Louisville Ville at
the end, like vull, like

1936
01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:40.920
louis the show louis I don't think
that's Louisville. I don't think natives would

1937
01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:43.880
accept that. I've heard from accept
the Louisville, I might be wrong,

1938
01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:53.479
or the Loelville that Jason saying what
la la la lu la lu uh?

1939
01:57:54.439 --> 01:57:57.800
Eric right? So in for some
reason, I now own an FC one

1940
01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:01.279
three d O and a Jaguar.
Fucking a man, is anything on a

1941
01:58:01.520 --> 01:58:05.720
bad road worth a ship? People
like that Alien Predator game I've done,

1942
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:10.520
no I some people swear by that. Yeah, somebody done a cursory search

1943
01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:13.760
and found several recommendations. But I
wanted to hear if you had any personal

1944
01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:17.760
insight into these misguided indoor pearly time
monstrosities. I remember Jeff calling Alien Versus

1945
01:58:17.800 --> 01:58:23.000
Predator fucking dumb. I think it's
fucking dumb, but can't recall much three

1946
01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:26.760
Do Slash Jag discussion on the bomb
Cast. I guess there's a reason for

1947
01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:29.720
that. I guess Tempest was pretty
good on the Jag. Yeah, Star

1948
01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:34.239
Control two on the three DO Plumbers
don't wear ties? That's a seminalfinitely hunt

1949
01:58:34.239 --> 01:58:39.760
that one down. Neuro Dancer on
the three DO Classic. What was that?

1950
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:42.720
It was like a fucking was it? Like a stripping game is what

1951
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:45.960
it was? And like a sci
fi you know, what was that thunder

1952
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:49.039
in Paradise game on that's three that's
was that three d O r CDI I

1953
01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:51.560
think that might have been a CDI
it was CDO. Yeah, yeah,

1954
01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:56.640
it totally was. We'd played it
on the stream. Yeah. Yeah.

1955
01:58:56.760 --> 01:59:00.920
That Demolition Man game is silly.
Simon's Simonson's Bleach is over and over again.

1956
01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:03.560
It's not a good game. But
Way of the Warrior is kind of

1957
01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.079
amusing. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's a must own. Yeah, I

1958
01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:09.880
feel like there's that's that's that.
You could say that a lot a lot

1959
01:59:09.880 --> 01:59:13.520
of games on those platforms. They're
not good games, but they're like road

1960
01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:17.960
Rash, Consuming Ninja, the fighting
game for did you Fight the Life are

1961
01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:23.520
come out? I think for Jaguar, did that goes to the two fighting?

1962
01:59:23.600 --> 01:59:26.279
Oh no, brutal pause of Fury
I think came out of Jaguar also

1963
01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:28.920
worked. They hyping up Fight to
Life is like some kind of frutual fighter

1964
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:30.720
the Treditor. They Fight to Life
was like a real, a real fighting

1965
01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:34.760
game, and it was like,
yeah, okay, returned Fire. I

1966
01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:38.039
think they came out on other stuff
though, Yeah, yeah, I Returned

1967
01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:40.039
Fire on three DIO. It's pretty
good though. That's a good version.

1968
01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:43.079
It's the Way of the Warrior.
The one with the Scottish guy that farted

1969
01:59:43.119 --> 01:59:45.600
fire. Was that tattoo assassins?
No, that was Way of the Warrior,

1970
01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:50.680
that's where they were air account Jake, Jake, Uh, Sammy Showdown

1971
01:59:50.760 --> 01:59:54.520
version that's pretty good. That's a
good version of that. Campus like a

1972
01:59:54.560 --> 01:59:59.920
three button controller. Yeah but wait
was that three dio that was on video?

1973
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:01.600
So weird? But yeah, like
road Rash had like uh, you

1974
02:00:01.640 --> 02:00:06.760
know the FMV Yeah, need for
Speed? Has the FMV guy fucking taunting

1975
02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:11.720
you about driving? Was twisted?
An okay game show game? I don't

1976
02:00:11.760 --> 02:00:15.840
remember, I mean I don't remember. No, but mad Dog McCrea,

1977
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:18.000
Yeah, you need a light gun
for that stuff though, playing it with

1978
02:00:18.039 --> 02:00:21.359
the curb the game pad has really
rotten. I think they rereleased mad Dog

1979
02:00:21.479 --> 02:00:26.680
McCrea like on PlayStation three. Yeah, I think you're pretty recently, like

1980
02:00:26.760 --> 02:00:30.039
move support. Like I went out
and I bought the mad Dog McCrea Avatar

1981
02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:35.079
and ready at any time, I
could be mad Dog. I wanted to

1982
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.960
on the Jaguar though what like I
don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

1983
02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:45.640
A lot of the Crescent Tampas is
good. Trevor mcfurr is really the

1984
02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:50.479
Keith Courage of the Jaguar launch cyber
Morph. Cyber Morph, it's a decent

1985
02:00:50.560 --> 02:00:57.840
version of Doom or no Wolf and
Stein. Doom was good on thirty two

1986
02:00:57.960 --> 02:01:01.079
X. Right, that's a yeah, I mean, you know for versions

1987
02:01:01.119 --> 02:01:03.279
of doing Yeah, I mean yeah, you know, yeah totally at the

1988
02:01:03.279 --> 02:01:05.159
time. Sure, yeah, it's
not gonna do much. Yeah, it

1989
02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:09.239
wouldn't. It would be silly to
get that version now. Yeah, I

1990
02:01:09.359 --> 02:01:11.600
just I just I don't know a
lot of Jaguar games, like Alien the

1991
02:01:11.600 --> 02:01:14.760
First Predator is probably worth looking at
just because it didn't exist anywhere else.

1992
02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:20.600
So if you own a Jaguar,
you might as well own that club Drive.

1993
02:01:20.680 --> 02:01:25.640
That's a bad game. But they
kind of were a lot of Jaguar

1994
02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:28.640
games, right, didn't that think? Didn't that thing kind of just die

1995
02:01:28.680 --> 02:01:30.600
on the vine? There was weird
stuff that came like, you know,

1996
02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:34.880
NBA Jam came out for the Jaguar, Like there's there's was some third party

1997
02:01:34.920 --> 02:01:38.920
support, but there was a big
homebrew scene. Like they really used to

1998
02:01:38.960 --> 02:01:41.960
be a like a jag Fest that
I believe it was in Milwaukee. Was

1999
02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:44.920
this turned into a different convention?
Was this like years after the fact?

2000
02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:46.760
Yeah, okay, yeah, like
after people could burn CDs for it.

2001
02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:50.319
I think because it came out with
four box or there's like a bunch of

2002
02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:56.079
weird stuff you can do because it
came out in what ninety two three,

2003
02:01:56.239 --> 02:02:00.319
and we're on there lay four games
stuff like they came out of ninety five.

2004
02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:04.079
As I was scrolling back here through
the list to yes, of course,

2005
02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:13.800
white Men Can't Jump? Ninja the
Classic Iron Soldier was I think somewhat

2006
02:02:13.840 --> 02:02:18.800
well regarded. It was like a
version of Theme Park. Oh man,

2007
02:02:18.840 --> 02:02:23.439
I forgot to read his ps ps. I got the three dio at a

2008
02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:27.840
thrift shop for ten dollars because they
thought it was a VCR. It's a

2009
02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:30.600
pretty good deal. Do you play
back zool two? Maybe that's Do you

2010
02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:33.199
play as Woody Harrelson and White Men
Can't Jump? You know? I don't

2011
02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:36.880
know because I can't think of any
instance of a playable Woody Harrelson in video

2012
02:02:36.880 --> 02:02:41.920
game history. Who who was was
Wesley Snip Snipes and Hareldson, And I

2013
02:02:41.960 --> 02:02:45.319
think Rose Snipes well represented in video
games. Oh yes, yes, of

2014
02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:51.600
course. I don't think Harrolson's ever
been in one MM ed TV The game

2015
02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:59.399
is there a money train game?
We have to squirt the gas under the

2016
02:02:59.479 --> 02:03:01.840
thing. They're worried there was gonna
leave the copycat crimes. When Money Train

2017
02:03:01.880 --> 02:03:05.720
came out, there's this big thing
about like they're gonna set people on fire

2018
02:03:05.760 --> 02:03:11.199
at subway stations because of your damn
movie. I remember Last Boy Scout.

2019
02:03:11.239 --> 02:03:13.960
Everyone was worried about people laying in
the middle of the road and letting cars

2020
02:03:14.039 --> 02:03:16.640
drive by them. I did that. You did that, yeah, because

2021
02:03:16.640 --> 02:03:23.720
of the Last Boy Scout. No
exciting times. But I also didn't like

2022
02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:26.800
run on a football field with a
pistol because of the Last Boy Scout.

2023
02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.560
Though, that's way cooler than rulying
down to the middle of a road.

2024
02:03:29.680 --> 02:03:32.159
There's there's still time. That's a
great movie. The door is still open.

2025
02:03:32.800 --> 02:03:36.319
Congratulations on your purchases, Eric,
Yeah, those are good price.

2026
02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:41.920
May they treat you will. Jesse
from Dallas wants us wants us to talk

2027
02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:45.600
about those crazy Metager solid Ford commercials
there. Yeah, I'm into it.

2028
02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:51.399
That's I thought they were pretty amusing. It's another case of like, you

2029
02:03:51.399 --> 02:03:56.279
know, people kind of alluding to
something and getting people's hopes up and then

2030
02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:59.399
it turning out to be just something
fucked up like this did anything ever?

2031
02:03:59.479 --> 02:04:01.520
Like there was like hater on David
Hayter on Twitter. It was like posting

2032
02:04:01.520 --> 02:04:05.079
like like oh me and the Colonel
back, you know, like implaning new

2033
02:04:05.159 --> 02:04:09.840
dialogue was being recorded. I didn't
see any of that. I just saw

2034
02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:12.680
the videos. Someone what the hell
is this? Yeah, and I was

2035
02:04:12.720 --> 02:04:15.880
like, unlisted forward YouTube channel.
They've They've done a They've done a handful

2036
02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:20.359
of other things that are not that
you know, like like other overdub series

2037
02:04:20.439 --> 02:04:24.520
or whatever it is. Yeah,
yeah, there's Captain Planet one. I

2038
02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:27.439
think. Yeah, I kind of
don't get why I like these because I'm

2039
02:04:27.479 --> 02:04:30.720
just as likely to fucking hate it
when I feel like somebody's pandering to my

2040
02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:33.039
nostalgia. You know, they're all
done. Maybe that's what it is.

2041
02:04:33.680 --> 02:04:38.880
Distinction is just the dumb jokes.
I can bring up faultoning in Campbell being

2042
02:04:38.920 --> 02:04:41.399
like, oh, that's not around
til we have eighty four. Yeah.

2043
02:04:41.439 --> 02:04:44.199
Yeah, Like when he first said
Fulton, I actually got mad because it

2044
02:04:44.279 --> 02:04:46.000
was just like, man, fuck
that this is mental gear solid don't And

2045
02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:49.119
then yeah, because it's because you
think it's some clueless marketing guy who just

2046
02:04:49.159 --> 02:04:51.279
looked at the most recent game and
was like, oh, we'll put that

2047
02:04:51.359 --> 02:04:54.680
in there. Yeah. They totally
was like Okay, they were aware.

2048
02:04:54.840 --> 02:04:59.399
I think that there's you know,
there's it's possible to like have ads that

2049
02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:02.399
come across with a certain amount of
authenticity where you can tell that at some

2050
02:05:02.439 --> 02:05:05.319
point someone at least gave a fuck. Yeah, well they had to have

2051
02:05:05.319 --> 02:05:08.760
given a fun to get those guys
in the studio, yeah, or get

2052
02:05:08.800 --> 02:05:12.000
them to record the lines where yeah, yeah, and I think that did

2053
02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:15.159
it right. That's probably why that
stuff works is because you can look at

2054
02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.680
that and go like, well,
someone at some level like at least new

2055
02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:19.520
to do, like if they were
going to do this, to do it

2056
02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:24.239
sort of right? Yeah, just
hear like Psychomantis talk about power steering or

2057
02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:26.840
whatever. It's there's a great novelty
there. Yes, yes, that was

2058
02:05:26.840 --> 02:05:33.680
pretty amusing. Uh. Speaking of
medical here, John has a simple question.

2059
02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.840
Do you think Kojima will have any
big announcements at E three or even

2060
02:05:36.920 --> 02:05:40.680
B at E three for that matter. I bet he'll be there, but

2061
02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:45.039
nothing of substance except at most like
a title maybe. Yeah. I don't

2062
02:05:45.039 --> 02:05:48.119
know. That seems like so early, Like the sounds like a TGS level

2063
02:05:48.159 --> 02:05:53.079
of a now, like like if
they're gonna do name or something very light.

2064
02:05:53.279 --> 02:05:56.520
Oh, I think that's something they
could say for TGS name a TGS

2065
02:05:56.560 --> 02:06:00.560
maybe some footage or a teaser at
next year or something. Yeah, you

2066
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:02.239
think, I think, I think
it might even be too early for that.

2067
02:06:02.319 --> 02:06:05.720
But I but I think if it
would happen, I don't. I

2068
02:06:05.720 --> 02:06:09.439
don't know, man, the one
adding him out at E three for the

2069
02:06:09.479 --> 02:06:11.960
press conference, Like if you look
at what they did last year with the

2070
02:06:11.960 --> 02:06:15.920
press conference, like Sony seems to
be in this mindset of fucking let's have

2071
02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:20.319
a like, let's put some together
some bangers. Putting walking Kojima out on

2072
02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:24.399
that stage fits the bill on that, that's for sure, But like,

2073
02:06:24.439 --> 02:06:27.039
I don't know what you have him
and him announced at the same time,

2074
02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:30.199
Like all of their big announcements last
year were things that are like years off

2075
02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:31.960
totally. And this is the same
way. You know, yeah, yeah,

2076
02:06:32.520 --> 02:06:34.520
but you know, if they if
they can keep that string together,

2077
02:06:34.560 --> 02:06:38.680
if signing these deals and you know, then every year they've gotten new people

2078
02:06:38.680 --> 02:06:42.279
to walk out there and they're look
at us, yeah, and then eventually

2079
02:06:42.279 --> 02:06:45.479
they make good on it and everyone's
forgotten by then that like maybe they didn't

2080
02:06:45.479 --> 02:06:49.920
want Shin move that bad anyway,
I have to assume they've got a pretty

2081
02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:53.199
good idea of what they're working on
at this point, right, yeah,

2082
02:06:53.359 --> 02:06:57.640
I would think. I mean it's
been it's only been what five four or

2083
02:06:57.680 --> 02:07:01.000
five months since he officially got out
of Oh yeah, but but I mean,

2084
02:07:01.039 --> 02:07:03.119
you know, they're talking about staffing
up with some of the other people

2085
02:07:03.159 --> 02:07:05.119
that got out of there, Like, you know, they wouldn't be hiring

2086
02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:09.199
up in that way if they weren't
kind of hitting the ground running to some

2087
02:07:09.279 --> 02:07:12.479
extent. So I have to imagine
that they've got an idea and they're moving

2088
02:07:12.800 --> 02:07:15.399
I don't think. I don't know
that Sony would have signed something if there

2089
02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:17.359
wasn't already some kind of idea and
probably not gonna write again like that a

2090
02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:19.279
blank check and just be like,
ah, you can just sit around until

2091
02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:24.119
you figured out, right, Yeah, but it might be like, Okay,

2092
02:07:24.159 --> 02:07:27.000
you're gonna make your whatever this game
is now, sit around until you

2093
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:29.840
figured out, you know, Like
I still don't think this games out anytime

2094
02:07:29.840 --> 02:07:31.199
soon, but they could just as
easily. There could be just a line

2095
02:07:31.239 --> 02:07:33.840
in the beginning of the press conference
spell like we're excited to have as part

2096
02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:36.479
of the PlayStation family, like cut
to cut to a shot of him in

2097
02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:39.560
the front row or whatever. And
just like that's it. Oh sure,

2098
02:07:39.640 --> 02:07:42.199
Yeah, we're like a trip to
his studio as they build it out or

2099
02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:45.920
something. Right, it's just him
doing c QC on someone. We're still

2100
02:07:45.079 --> 02:07:49.760
were still every game we go to
LA and just shoot guns and practice fucking

2101
02:07:49.840 --> 02:07:54.840
rooms just in case we're ready,
just if anything happens in Japan, just

2102
02:07:54.880 --> 02:08:01.560
we're ready. Yeah. Uh,
let's see. Here's an email from Kurts,

2103
02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:05.399
who looks very short, basically asked
if you so off should Poor Child

2104
02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:09.520
of Eden to VR. I'd ever
played it, but you all sounded like

2105
02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:13.039
you were pretty into it consistently comparing
it to RES. You know there's some

2106
02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:16.760
pedigree there as well. Yeah,
I don't feel like it quite no state

2107
02:08:16.960 --> 02:08:20.720
power. I don't know if it
was just time and place thing or what.

2108
02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:22.640
Yeah. Well, also, I
mean this, the neither control method

2109
02:08:22.680 --> 02:08:28.640
felt right in that game, like
the like the Connect stuff CONECTE. Some

2110
02:08:28.680 --> 02:08:31.960
people got way into that Connect stuff, like saying that it really made them

2111
02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:35.960
cry because it made them feel like
their reviews talking about crying because Connect made

2112
02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:39.800
it so emotionally whatever from Yeah,
like Child of Eden's neat, but it's

2113
02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:43.800
no RES. Just stylistically, I
just don't think it's as it's not at

2114
02:08:43.840 --> 02:08:48.000
my alley the same way resus,
so that that's kind of it. But

2115
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:52.079
yeah, I think that that's probably
something that's worth revisiting, you know,

2116
02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:56.640
with with a different control method and
the r might be a way to go.

2117
02:08:56.840 --> 02:08:58.359
Yeah, well see, I bet
they'll see how res does and then

2118
02:08:58.479 --> 02:09:01.359
sure, you know, hey,
we're doing this one now. Yeah,

2119
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:03.840
that would make sense. I don't
think that game ever came out on PC,

2120
02:09:05.159 --> 02:09:07.800
did it? No? I don't
think sense. I think it could

2121
02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:13.039
be a good excuse. Spencer from
Sydney, Australia Jason, Yo, it's

2122
02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:18.399
got a question for mostly you.
I had to look up a Child of

2123
02:09:18.560 --> 02:09:20.199
Eden because I thought you guys were
talking about Child of Lightning. Yes,

2124
02:09:22.039 --> 02:09:24.359
that wouldn't have made much sense,
I guess, yeah, all right,

2125
02:09:24.520 --> 02:09:28.720
what you got. I've been trying
to climb out of Bronze for the past

2126
02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:31.039
week, yet nearly half my matches
end and a rage quit where I get

2127
02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:35.319
no points from my win and they
lose none with no punishment. Does Capcom

2128
02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:39.560
really expect me to report all these
players myself? Here's a short list of

2129
02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:45.000
all the things that street fighters.
Street Fighter five still doesn't have rage quit

2130
02:09:45.039 --> 02:09:48.199
penalties, working profile statistics they all
say zero percent, even on the top

2131
02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:54.840
rated profiles. Proper artwork, he
says, working lobbies, although I know

2132
02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:58.840
you've said the lobby stuff has been
lobby seems okay, Okay, There's a

2133
02:09:58.840 --> 02:10:03.079
few anomalies here, characters select screen
and ranked matches. Uh, finished you

2134
02:10:03.840 --> 02:10:09.720
that's not there. That's deliberately not
their mean yeah, and finished UI that

2135
02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:13.039
wasn't just slapped together with a times
new Roman font. Okay, all because

2136
02:10:13.079 --> 02:10:16.960
Capcom wanted to rush the game out
for the beginning of the pro tour.

2137
02:10:16.600 --> 02:10:22.920
How can anyone justify this being a
sixty dollars release considering KI is free and

2138
02:10:22.960 --> 02:10:26.880
has everything Street Fighter five has and
more. Compare this to the polish of

2139
02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:30.079
the menus and Street Fighter four and
you can see the quality difference instantly,

2140
02:10:30.439 --> 02:10:33.359
totally. But the last, because
they are Capcom, all is forgiven and

2141
02:10:33.399 --> 02:10:37.119
Street Fighters still rules the FGC in
the unfinished ass state it's been left in

2142
02:10:37.439 --> 02:10:41.640
yea. But also, the game's
really fucking good. I mean, k

2143
02:10:41.800 --> 02:10:45.079
has been out out for three seasons
now, and if you remember, they

2144
02:10:45.079 --> 02:10:48.000
don't have a fucking story mode.
You know when when they were first released,

2145
02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:50.119
they had a handful of characters.
There was a lot of stuff that

2146
02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:54.520
was missing from that. Well,
wasn't Yeah that that game was free.

2147
02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:56.359
I'm just all I mean to get
all the characters. It was like not

2148
02:10:56.479 --> 02:10:58.520
that much. Yeah, it was
not that much. And I don't want

2149
02:10:58.520 --> 02:11:01.319
to make it comparison to that.
But when he's throwing it in there,

2150
02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:05.359
like you know, a lot of
fighting games, they're missing out on a

2151
02:11:05.439 --> 02:11:07.760
lot of that single player content.
And I'm not trying to justify it,

2152
02:11:07.960 --> 02:11:11.479
like I thought, if it's a
broken ass like there were a lot of

2153
02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:16.880
broken promises, let's say that.
And even I, as someone who does

2154
02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:20.119
not get into the single player stuff, felt like I was getting shafted.

2155
02:11:20.399 --> 02:11:24.880
Yeah, that was too high of
a price for that kind of game.

2156
02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:28.680
Rush. The quote I saw going
around recently, I don't know if it

2157
02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:31.199
was from Oto or somebody else,
something effective like we underestimated how much people

2158
02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:35.439
would care about single player content,
yeah, or something like that. I'm

2159
02:11:35.479 --> 02:11:39.399
sure that's part of it. You
know that they didn't put that much of

2160
02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.920
a focus on you know, whether
or not they had a smaller team or

2161
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:46.239
whatever. They just their priorities were
something else. I think that they spent

2162
02:11:46.319 --> 02:11:48.359
too much time looking at the scene
and not enough time looking at the average

2163
02:11:48.399 --> 02:11:50.800
player, which which is you know, flying in the face of what they've

2164
02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:54.880
done traditionally. Yeah, you know
they've kind of ignored the scene and you

2165
02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:58.159
know, those people are the most
vocal sometimes, and I think that that

2166
02:11:58.199 --> 02:12:01.680
probably would have been a smart well
whatever, who knows if if the money

2167
02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:03.840
would have made sense, But on
some level, isn't it like a smarter

2168
02:12:03.960 --> 02:12:05.560
way to go, like focus on
the bulk of the people that will buy

2169
02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:09.399
the game. And I guess and
know that this core audience will probably come

2170
02:12:09.399 --> 02:12:13.039
on as long as the game is
tight. That's the trictest core audience will

2171
02:12:13.039 --> 02:12:15.560
come along, no matter what.
So we're talking core audience, and you

2172
02:12:15.600 --> 02:12:18.000
know it's probably not a lot of
people. Yeah, I mean street Fighter,

2173
02:12:18.119 --> 02:12:20.760
you know, it's such a fucking
household name name that you know they're

2174
02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:26.119
expecting, you know, hundreds of
thousands of sales. But yeah, they

2175
02:12:26.199 --> 02:12:31.439
neglected a lot of those people.
So yeah, it's getting a bad rap

2176
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:33.399
right now for sure. I Mean
all I kind of say, it's like,

2177
02:12:33.479 --> 02:12:37.359
I've really enjoyed playing the game still, you know, I like doing

2178
02:12:37.399 --> 02:12:41.640
some of the the trial stuff.
Now it's it's what I hate to just

2179
02:12:41.840 --> 02:12:46.359
like reiterate a quote, but you
know, they're running a marathon or whatever.

2180
02:12:48.199 --> 02:12:50.239
I don't know it's fair to speak, but that game is going to

2181
02:12:50.239 --> 02:12:54.560
be iterated on. Eventually, it's
going to be you know what we're looking

2182
02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:56.479
for, I guess, but right
now, shit, shit, yeah,

2183
02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:00.880
we were expecting a lot more.
Yeah, Jeff, I thought I saw

2184
02:13:01.039 --> 02:13:05.359
and you mentioned when your tumbler recently
that you've kind of moved on. I

2185
02:13:05.479 --> 02:13:07.079
just yeah, I mean, you
know, I haven't. You know,

2186
02:13:07.079 --> 02:13:09.560
I went and reviewed the Division,
and you know, I've been playing all

2187
02:13:09.560 --> 02:13:13.439
this other stuff, track Mania Turbo
and just want to break the idea.

2188
02:13:13.560 --> 02:13:15.960
Yeah, like reviewed, Well,
I was like two weeks ago that I

2189
02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:20.680
finished quant a break, but three
three now I think actually, but yeah,

2190
02:13:20.720 --> 02:13:22.119
I mean at some point, like
i've I just haven't had time to

2191
02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:26.439
play it and there's no draw Like
when they rolled out the update, I

2192
02:13:26.560 --> 02:13:30.760
loaded it up to take a look
at it, took Alex into training for

2193
02:13:30.800 --> 02:13:31.560
a little bit and said like,
all right, I have no desire to

2194
02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:35.439
ever play as Alex. And that's
kind of that. I don't know,

2195
02:13:37.600 --> 02:13:41.399
that's probably typical of like a lot
of other fighting games that you've played,

2196
02:13:41.479 --> 02:13:43.479
correct I guess. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean I stuck with

2197
02:13:43.880 --> 02:13:48.279
Mortal Kombat X a little longer,
just played a lot more online for for

2198
02:13:48.399 --> 02:13:52.000
a longer period of time, and
there was more there too. Yeah yeah,

2199
02:13:54.279 --> 02:13:56.960
but like you know, I kind
of keep coming back to KI here

2200
02:13:58.039 --> 02:14:01.079
and there. It'll you know,
I'll go like a couple months without playing

2201
02:14:01.119 --> 02:14:03.520
it, and it's like, oh, what's going on with Let's just play

2202
02:14:03.520 --> 02:14:07.920
at KI. You know what's going
on in the Shadow Lab? Yeah,

2203
02:14:07.960 --> 02:14:11.039
they're doing this stuff and go look
at that stuff and and all that.

2204
02:14:11.279 --> 02:14:13.479
But I don't know, I feel
like I moved away from Street Fighter,

2205
02:14:13.640 --> 02:14:18.359
like like for something I went into
and enjoyed enough to where I was like

2206
02:14:18.399 --> 02:14:20.720
actually kind of like intending to stick
with it. It turned out to that

2207
02:14:20.800 --> 02:14:26.279
I was driven away from it even
faster than the average fighting game. Yeah,

2208
02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:28.920
I think. You know, dude, the lack of single layer content

2209
02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:31.399
yea, and the way that they've
handled that, it's really like kept people

2210
02:14:31.399 --> 02:14:33.239
away and it's going to continue to
watching them fuck it up. Like,

2211
02:14:33.319 --> 02:14:37.720
watching them continue to fuck it up
is not inspiring me to want to go

2212
02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:39.720
back to it, no joke.
Yeah, you know, it's it's like

2213
02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:41.399
you're just looking and go like,
wow, this this game was this game

2214
02:14:41.479 --> 02:14:46.079
had absolute merit at launch, like
in terms of the fighting being sound and

2215
02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:52.319
enjoyable. It was just everything around
it was this burning garbage fire, and

2216
02:14:52.760 --> 02:14:56.920
that fire seems to have only gotten
hotter, and the game itself is well,

2217
02:14:56.039 --> 02:14:58.720
it's it's okay, Well the fire
is spread into different areas, right,

2218
02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:01.520
it's still smoldering in the sense that
people thought it was going to have

2219
02:15:01.680 --> 02:15:05.079
been put out by now keep the
analogy, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

2220
02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:09.079
it should have been extinguished and you
know, and the core game would

2221
02:15:09.079 --> 02:15:11.000
only get better. It's like,
okay, well, sure enough they added

2222
02:15:11.039 --> 02:15:15.279
a character and that's that's cool.
That's theoretically better. You know, the

2223
02:15:15.560 --> 02:15:18.439
game itself was already kind of fine
to begin with, so or whatever.

2224
02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:22.479
But yeah, yeah, the trial
stuff, you know, that's that's not

2225
02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:26.720
enough, And in some ways it's
too little, too late for some of

2226
02:15:26.800 --> 02:15:30.800
that. The idea, like the
idea that they would like implement a tutorial

2227
02:15:30.960 --> 02:15:33.079
and like check that off on a
list and have it literally just be these

2228
02:15:33.119 --> 02:15:37.880
fucking like walls of texts that roll
out as you watch AI do things to

2229
02:15:37.920 --> 02:15:43.199
each other is like embarrassing. That
is the wrong lady like this is,

2230
02:15:43.800 --> 02:15:46.840
and there's so many better examples.
The guy who wrote in talks about you

2231
02:15:46.880 --> 02:15:48.960
know, people looking the other way
because it's Street Fighter. It's like,

2232
02:15:48.039 --> 02:15:52.319
well that also gives them that works
the other way, Like there is there

2233
02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:56.560
should be a heightened level of scrutiny
because this is Street Fighter. Fucking five,

2234
02:15:56.119 --> 02:16:00.880
this is an ex four. Yeah, this isn't fucking Nitro plus Blasters,

2235
02:16:00.960 --> 02:16:05.600
Heroine's Infinite Duel. This isn't even
fucking Killer Instinct. This is fucking

2236
02:16:05.840 --> 02:16:09.520
street Fighter. There is a bet
degree that they need to they're fucking full

2237
02:16:09.680 --> 02:16:13.760
on sequel two Street Fight. It's
only the fifth one of these to ever

2238
02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:16.640
exist. Yeah, so at some
point, like you have to look at

2239
02:16:16.640 --> 02:16:18.840
that and go like they've you know, like for this, for any fighting

2240
02:16:18.880 --> 02:16:22.760
game, no matter what you put
on the box, like no matter what

2241
02:16:22.920 --> 02:16:24.720
name is on there, you're gonna
look at this and go like this is

2242
02:16:24.760 --> 02:16:30.319
fucked up for this to be how
that how something as valuable and as treasured

2243
02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:35.440
and as storied as Street Fighter for
them to be treating this game, this

2244
02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:39.319
franchise that way, like this is
worse than they would when they were putting

2245
02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:43.200
out like fucking nine different Street Fighter
anniversary collections every week, you know,

2246
02:16:43.639 --> 02:16:46.719
like when they were really when Capcom
was really going for it and flooding the

2247
02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:50.200
market with PS one fighting games and
collections and all other stuff. Like this

2248
02:16:50.360 --> 02:16:54.440
seems more egregious than that, even
if the game itself is good, which

2249
02:16:54.520 --> 02:16:58.600
I'll reiterate, I think in terms
of broken promises, absolutely, yeah,

2250
02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:01.520
like it in terms of just like
care for the franchise, you know,

2251
02:17:01.639 --> 02:17:03.120
like this is one of those things
where you just look at it and go

2252
02:17:03.159 --> 02:17:05.280
like, man, like I get
that, like resources were limited. You

2253
02:17:05.319 --> 02:17:07.840
obviously had to make some kind of
weird deal with Sony to make this thing

2254
02:17:07.879 --> 02:17:13.840
happen, But fucking come on,
I can get behind the disappointment. Yeah,

2255
02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:16.200
for sure, It just it seems
like one of those things. And

2256
02:17:16.319 --> 02:17:20.319
then we don't know the situation in
terms of just like I'm sure no one

2257
02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:22.920
is there going like, fucking job, well done. Everybody wrap it up,

2258
02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:26.440
like oh wait what, like you
know, and they're not shocked by

2259
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:28.079
it. But so I'm not gonna
you know, it's tempting to sit here

2260
02:17:28.079 --> 02:17:31.959
and go like, man, they
really should have taken more pride in what

2261
02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:35.760
they were doing, because this is
fucking Street Fighter. I'm sure that it's

2262
02:17:35.840 --> 02:17:39.399
at some point the business realities of
making a game and shipping it on whatever

2263
02:17:39.440 --> 02:17:41.639
budgets and all the other stuff that
they had to contend with. Yeah,

2264
02:17:41.760 --> 02:17:45.559
factor into this. No one's probably
stoked with where the game launched at.

2265
02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:46.879
They knew it was going to be
like this. I think, you know,

2266
02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:50.600
bottom line, I think they lost
sight of you know a lot of

2267
02:17:50.639 --> 02:17:54.559
those like you know, major numbers
of consumers, like their priorities, that

2268
02:17:54.760 --> 02:17:58.719
they lost sight of that and just
tried to focus too much on the fighting

2269
02:17:58.760 --> 02:18:03.120
game community. Yeah, and yeah, that's that's that's where it's burning up

2270
02:18:03.200 --> 02:18:07.399
right now. I wouldn't and I
mean whatever, like and I'm sure like

2271
02:18:07.479 --> 02:18:09.600
within the scene, does anyone even
really care. I mean other than like

2272
02:18:09.639 --> 02:18:13.639
where lobbies need to work, like
there's that, But I'm sure like at

2273
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:16.040
some point, like those people are
just playing the game and that's it.

2274
02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:20.280
It's just they don't care. It's
like it in training, they fight with

2275
02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:22.920
honor and fight with people they know, So rage quitting is not as huge

2276
02:18:22.920 --> 02:18:26.440
a problem. The survival mode is
a bunch of bullshit. And yeah,

2277
02:18:26.520 --> 02:18:31.920
that's that's comments it on unlocking new
colors, that's yeah, that's that's some

2278
02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:35.479
dumb stuff. Yeah, for sure. Unlocking it per costume is also that's

2279
02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:41.479
some double secret extra bullshit. Yeah. Uh yeah. Everything outside of the

2280
02:18:41.520 --> 02:18:46.479
core mechanics of this game has been
pretty disappointing. I will say that it

2281
02:18:46.559 --> 02:18:48.399
feels like that's what that was reflected
in the sales. Yep, yeah,

2282
02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:52.760
that's that's that's fair, and I
think that that's fine. I think that

2283
02:18:54.760 --> 02:18:58.079
it's a real shame because it is
a very cool game. Like I thought

2284
02:18:58.120 --> 02:19:00.879
a lot hotter on this one out
of the game than even I did with

2285
02:19:00.920 --> 02:19:03.879
street Fighter four really, and I
felt like felt like very excited about well

2286
02:19:05.159 --> 02:19:07.200
a street Fighter four was a different
thing where you know, like we got

2287
02:19:07.239 --> 02:19:11.120
a lot of opportunities to play it
before it came out, so by the

2288
02:19:11.159 --> 02:19:11.840
time it came out, it was
like, all right, cool, it's

2289
02:19:11.840 --> 02:19:15.280
out, finally now I can play
it where it's like street Fighter five,

2290
02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:16.959
like you know, they did their
beats and those were broken, so I

2291
02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:20.600
didn't spend a lot of time with
that. They get better. So it

2292
02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:24.319
was definitely a feeling like like it
happened all at once, Like as the

2293
02:19:24.360 --> 02:19:28.239
game was getting closer and closer to
release, there was this sudden like oh

2294
02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:31.479
shit, No, this is actual
though. They're putting out a new fucking

2295
02:19:31.520 --> 02:19:35.120
street fight. There have only been
five of these as it been a while,

2296
02:19:35.399 --> 02:19:37.479
and it had it had been a
while. Yeah, so that's actual

2297
02:19:37.559 --> 02:19:41.159
moment. And I kind of had
fallen off of four you know, around

2298
02:19:41.159 --> 02:19:43.319
the time, like even like Super
came out or something like that, just

2299
02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:46.239
kind of like they started adding more
and more characters that I didn't care about.

2300
02:19:46.319 --> 02:19:48.040
So it was just that game got
away from me. I was like,

2301
02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:50.959
this is a chance to start over. I'm still having a great time

2302
02:19:52.079 --> 02:19:54.399
playing with you know, a core
group of friends. You know, we're

2303
02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:56.159
still just as hot and heavy about
it as we were, you know when

2304
02:19:56.159 --> 02:20:01.280
it first came out. So yeah, luckily the core mechanics are just that

2305
02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:03.600
good. Yeah. I feel like, you know, if you got in

2306
02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:05.520
with a good group of people that
played pretty regularly, sure, yeah,

2307
02:20:05.559 --> 02:20:09.040
you would start you know, looking
at YouTube videos as far as like tutorials

2308
02:20:09.079 --> 02:20:11.520
and stuff, get really into it. Yeah, that's a that's a tough

2309
02:20:11.559 --> 02:20:15.120
ass, cuts a tall order for
a lot of people. That's bullshit.

2310
02:20:16.559 --> 02:20:18.879
I mean, no, you have
to look it up. Ship with Clash

2311
02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:22.399
of Clans. No, I'm not
talking about looking stuff. I'm talking about

2312
02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:26.200
I'm talking about the running crew,
like getting a regular group of people that

2313
02:20:26.280 --> 02:20:30.159
will meet up reliably to play together
on like for people who are busy and

2314
02:20:30.239 --> 02:20:33.239
play other games and blah blah blah. Unless I'm unless I'm reviewing something,

2315
02:20:33.319 --> 02:20:37.559
unless there's like unless there's like a
case of like I need to finish this

2316
02:20:37.639 --> 02:20:39.879
game by Monday, because that's my
job. I'm not talking by doing it

2317
02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.520
every night. Yeah, that's that's
what I'm but but I'm saying I never

2318
02:20:43.639 --> 02:20:48.600
actually play games on a schedule.
So it's it's like meeting up with people

2319
02:20:48.680 --> 02:20:52.440
to play a game. It's just
not a reality. Yeah, it's it's

2320
02:20:52.799 --> 02:20:56.239
it's becoming yeah, like so much
harder for me to h I get that,

2321
02:20:56.479 --> 02:20:58.959
like I fitted in wherever I can't
and that's you know, I spend

2322
02:21:00.040 --> 02:21:03.479
a lot of hours playing games,
but it's not something where we have to

2323
02:21:03.559 --> 02:21:05.799
move on, like we gotta.
We gotta keep loose, man, we

2324
02:21:05.879 --> 02:21:09.600
gotta. But also it's just it's
just very difficult for me to just be

2325
02:21:09.719 --> 02:21:13.040
like, all right, four o'clock
Sunday, we're gonna do this. And

2326
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:15.479
it's like, well, now four
o'clock Sunday came around, and we decided

2327
02:21:15.479 --> 02:21:16.639
to go see a movie. So
fuck this, like you know, like

2328
02:21:16.760 --> 02:21:22.719
it's it's it's not that's not something
I would prioritize, but so that that's

2329
02:21:22.760 --> 02:21:24.520
what makes it hard. I don't
necessarily say that I prioritized It's not a

2330
02:21:24.600 --> 02:21:28.200
certain night of the week. It's
just like after midnight or something. If

2331
02:21:28.280 --> 02:21:31.159
everybody's online, then we will hop
on with a few people. It's I

2332
02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:35.920
don't know, pretty pretty catual.
But anyway you have to you know,

2333
02:21:35.959 --> 02:21:37.680
what it is is that you kind
of have to make it away of life

2334
02:21:37.879 --> 02:21:41.920
to do that. Like no,
like I have that. I have that

2335
02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.840
with Doda, but it's because I
put a fucking lot of time into Doda,

2336
02:21:43.959 --> 02:21:48.840
like like making those connections, finding
people I like playing with, like

2337
02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:50.719
like having a network of people set
up where I can jump on there and

2338
02:21:50.760 --> 02:21:54.000
find people to play with. Like
that is attainable, but you have to

2339
02:21:54.120 --> 02:21:56.719
put a lot of time into it. Yeah, when four came out,

2340
02:21:56.799 --> 02:22:00.879
Yeah it was a way a life
for me totally. Like that's I was

2341
02:22:00.959 --> 02:22:03.120
like eight hours a day, you
know, seems I got home from work,

2342
02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:07.159
I was playing that till till whenever. But but I mean now with

2343
02:22:07.479 --> 02:22:09.200
with with five, I play it
very very casually and yeah, I'm looking

2344
02:22:09.280 --> 02:22:11.440
up videos every now and again.
Like I said, I'm playing once or

2345
02:22:11.440 --> 02:22:15.399
twice a week for maybe a couple
hours with friends, like, and I'm

2346
02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:18.799
having fun with that. Like I
don't have that drive to just like really

2347
02:22:18.000 --> 02:22:20.879
dedicate. I feel a little bad
sometimes where I'm like, funk, I

2348
02:22:20.920 --> 02:22:26.159
should really work harder at this.
But then it's like, no, I

2349
02:22:26.239 --> 02:22:28.319
can get in. I can kind
of hold my own. I'm having fun

2350
02:22:28.399 --> 02:22:31.559
with a game, like I don't
have to dedicate my life to it.

2351
02:22:31.799 --> 02:22:33.399
Yeah, but I've got situations like
that where like, you know, like

2352
02:22:33.520 --> 02:22:37.319
I'm max level in the division and
I would really like to do some dark

2353
02:22:37.440 --> 02:22:41.760
zone stuff with people, but I
don't know anyone that is max level.

2354
02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:45.479
I'm not friends with anyone other than
Austin. I think it's the only other

2355
02:22:45.559 --> 02:22:48.200
level thirty. Yeah. On the
PS four versions specifically, it's something like

2356
02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:52.159
that, it's way harder to just
pick up and play like a pickup group

2357
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:54.719
type thing where street fighters just like
whatever skill level, whatever time, Yeah,

2358
02:22:56.200 --> 02:22:58.040
just top top in and do it
and so for it in a few

2359
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:01.799
minutes. Yeah, they're there are
plenty of examples like that like that,

2360
02:23:01.879 --> 02:23:03.879
where it's just like you know.
Yeah, there's just like team games I'm

2361
02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:05.879
never gonna play because I'm never gonna
put a team together, like yeah,

2362
02:23:07.200 --> 02:23:09.920
when it's really hard. If I
liked the mechanics of Dodo, would actually

2363
02:23:09.959 --> 02:23:11.959
be a fucking nightmare because then I
would have to start like trying to and

2364
02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:16.200
those are long ass games like trying
to like work on these schedules and and

2365
02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:22.479
get like that's that sounds terrible,
Like bare minimum, like a one sided

2366
02:23:22.559 --> 02:23:26.959
stomp is thirty minutes, oh geez, easily easily goes to an hour,

2367
02:23:28.719 --> 02:23:31.680
Like a remotely contentious match can easily
go to an hour. It's it's part

2368
02:23:31.719 --> 02:23:35.120
of it is part of why I
call of Duty so much. It is

2369
02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:37.479
because you can just fucking fire that
up and play and yeah there's teamwork involved,

2370
02:23:37.479 --> 02:23:41.639
but whatever, it's not a game
to play casually. But like that

2371
02:23:41.799 --> 02:23:46.440
level of time investment is what heightens
the drama so much. Oh totally.

2372
02:23:46.520 --> 02:23:48.879
You put that much time into it, and it's gone back and forth that

2373
02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:52.600
many times, like you are going
to fucking fight it out to the bloody

2374
02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:56.120
fucking end like Mario party. Right, Yes, exactly, the time exactly

2375
02:23:56.479 --> 02:24:01.639
better yeah, next email. Next
email from Stewart it's about popcorn lung.

2376
02:24:03.120 --> 02:24:07.040
I don't even remember talking about that. Oh, working at a movie theater.

2377
02:24:07.159 --> 02:24:09.280
Yeah, an email. Just heard
you guys talking about popcorn along on

2378
02:24:09.319 --> 02:24:13.200
the podcast, and you mentioned you
didn't know if it was real science or

2379
02:24:13.239 --> 02:24:18.719
not. Unfortunately it is. Yes. Bronchiolitis obliter ends is the medical name,

2380
02:24:18.799 --> 02:24:22.280
and it's caused by the dia settle
that gives fake popcorn butter. It's

2381
02:24:22.360 --> 02:24:26.520
buttery flavor. It is perfectly safe
to eat, but inhaling it in large

2382
02:24:26.520 --> 02:24:31.920
amounts literally obliterates your airways. It
usually affects people working in popcorn plants,

2383
02:24:31.959 --> 02:24:35.440
but one person got it from eating
two bags of microwavable popcorn a day for

2384
02:24:35.600 --> 02:24:41.600
ten years. Okay, yeah,
you could realistically never inhale enough of it

2385
02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:43.879
to cause real damage, but keep
in mind and keep it in mind the

2386
02:24:43.959 --> 02:24:48.159
next time you're huffing that buttery delicious
smell. Ps. Also just read that

2387
02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:52.559
it was found in some vacant vaping
liquids recently, So fuck that, I'm

2388
02:24:52.639 --> 02:24:58.520
in it. It's in your vape, buttery vape. I think that's why

2389
02:24:58.719 --> 02:25:03.399
people the PGV. I don't know. Vaping is weird. Sometimes I watched

2390
02:25:03.520 --> 02:25:09.239
people live streaming themselves vaping. Yeah, you think twitch layouts are bad,

2391
02:25:11.000 --> 02:25:15.399
try watching some vape streams where they
don't where they don't have where they don't

2392
02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:18.159
have a video game to fill up
most of the window. What it was,

2393
02:25:18.319 --> 02:25:20.319
what's their vape out? It look
like it's just a ton of ads,

2394
02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:24.000
Like every single one is just like
them going like I got a coupon

2395
02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:26.840
over due to give away in the
chat giveaways. I got to these liquids

2396
02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:31.200
here. Last night I was watching
guys talk about how great peanut butter flavored.

2397
02:25:31.680 --> 02:25:33.799
Like, Keep mind, I've never
vaped in my life and don't have

2398
02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:37.920
intend to ever say peanut butter vape
peanut butter flavored vapes. Well, Jeff,

2399
02:25:37.920 --> 02:25:39.799
I feel like you're the guy to
ask about this. All right,

2400
02:25:39.799 --> 02:25:43.360
great for all the talk we've done
about vaping on the bomb cast. Yeah,

2401
02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:46.200
I don't know anyone who does it. I see it on the streets

2402
02:25:46.200 --> 02:25:50.000
of San Francisco all the time.
But these like enthusiasts that are live streaming

2403
02:25:50.040 --> 02:25:56.000
and youtubing themselves vaping. Is this
primarily supposed to be like a tobacco thing

2404
02:25:56.120 --> 02:25:58.680
or a weed thing? Tobacco?
Is it? Everybody? I mean,

2405
02:26:00.440 --> 02:26:03.719
in fact, yes, it is
people do vaporizes weed. Okay, that's

2406
02:26:03.719 --> 02:26:07.719
doable. But when a lot of
people in this in this scene look down

2407
02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:09.399
on that because they're like, no, man, I don't get into that

2408
02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.440
bullshit. And they're doing it for
the love of the cloud. Yeah,

2409
02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:15.760
it's not even a start tobacco.
It's like a cigar aficionado type thing,

2410
02:26:15.799 --> 02:26:18.959
but I mean vaping it is.
It is a mixture of the cigar aficionado

2411
02:26:18.040 --> 02:26:24.399
thing mixed with like the same urge
that like people that upgrade their PC or

2412
02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:28.440
tinker with a car have because they're
constantly fucking reviewing new vapor rigs and yeah,

2413
02:26:28.719 --> 02:26:33.319
upgrading their coils and fucking suboming and
fucking I can't blow big enough clouds

2414
02:26:33.360 --> 02:26:37.680
with this. We've got a sub
We've gotta subown more. Don't sub up

2415
02:26:37.680 --> 02:26:39.440
too much. It's gonna blow up
in your face. Man. Come on.

2416
02:26:39.639 --> 02:26:43.000
Like there's a store near me and
the biggest sign on it says build

2417
02:26:43.040 --> 02:26:46.120
your own vape pin And like I
just stare at that, and I'm like,

2418
02:26:46.200 --> 02:26:48.200
I isn't it just a way to
like bring in tobacco. Like there's

2419
02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:52.200
to be fair in different ways,
like to be fair. There's Goldberg device

2420
02:26:52.319 --> 02:26:56.600
to fucking vape, but if it
was in some cases it is, Yeah,

2421
02:26:56.959 --> 02:26:58.079
I mean, to be fair,
there are absolutely people who have used

2422
02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:03.959
vaping to stop smoke, like they
will nicotine as a way. And granted,

2423
02:27:03.040 --> 02:27:07.360
granted, the long term studies on
vaping have yet to be completed,

2424
02:27:07.399 --> 02:27:09.639
so who knows if it's actually better
or not there, but it has people

2425
02:27:09.639 --> 02:27:13.440
anecdotally are definitely saying that, like, you know, hey, my lungs

2426
02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:16.600
feel better since I stopped smoking regular
cigarettes and switched it to the vapes.

2427
02:27:16.639 --> 02:27:20.920
It's hard to imagine how it could
be any worse than actual cigarettes, right,

2428
02:27:20.360 --> 02:27:22.280
right, I'll put it that way. But but you know, it

2429
02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:24.879
does. But I still don't doubt
that at some point they will complete the

2430
02:27:24.879 --> 02:27:28.680
study and go, oh wait,
no, this thing is totally fucking killing

2431
02:27:28.719 --> 02:27:31.879
you in a totally different way.
Yeah, I would not doubt it.

2432
02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:39.200
Uh. And then there's the part
where like you've got these like concentrated you

2433
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:43.120
know, nicotine fluids hanging out sitting
on a counter, and like, oops,

2434
02:27:43.239 --> 02:27:46.360
this kid spilled it on his arm
and now that's real bad. Oh

2435
02:27:46.600 --> 02:27:50.840
you know, wait, does that
act real? That's actually I believe it

2436
02:27:50.920 --> 02:27:54.319
is bad to get it on your
skin what in some cases, Yeah,

2437
02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:56.680
because it will, it can soak
in that way. I guess. Then

2438
02:27:56.719 --> 02:27:58.079
if you're smoking cigarettes, there's the
risk of like oh I fell asleep in

2439
02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:03.079
my house burned down. Sure,
yeah, yeah, I had a good

2440
02:28:03.079 --> 02:28:05.440
idea to do any of those things. I guess not. Yeah, I

2441
02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:11.079
don't know. It's so it's it's
the same type of like insufferable that people

2442
02:28:11.280 --> 02:28:15.079
get when they're talking about microbrew beers. Oh, like guys that are really

2443
02:28:15.120 --> 02:28:18.399
into IPAs and stuff like that,
really picky about it. Yeah, like

2444
02:28:18.719 --> 02:28:22.559
it's really hoppy. It's really this
one's really like it's like that's I want

2445
02:28:22.600 --> 02:28:24.520
the opposite of that. Yeah.
Yeah, this is why I'm drinking this

2446
02:28:24.600 --> 02:28:26.920
Paps blue ribbon and stop telling me
that, like, oh, I need

2447
02:28:26.959 --> 02:28:31.319
to send you a real beer,
Like no, you don't, thank you,

2448
02:28:31.000 --> 02:28:35.040
thank you, but yep, that's
yep. I'd rather actually probably drinking

2449
02:28:35.120 --> 02:28:41.399
real water or vodka or you know
anyway. Anyway, beer's terrible. M

2450
02:28:43.079 --> 02:28:46.000
Do you want some vodka? Sure, I got the huka over here,

2451
02:28:46.079 --> 02:28:48.280
Yes, let me drink it right
out of there anyway. Yeah, I

2452
02:28:48.319 --> 02:28:54.000
don't know. That's the the watching
people and and they're the people that get

2453
02:28:54.200 --> 02:28:58.040
all like up in arms about their
vaping rights are just so much fun,

2454
02:28:58.319 --> 02:29:01.760
so much fun to watch, But
no, I should be able to do

2455
02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:05.719
this inside because it's not. Definitely, I've definitely seen people on the internet

2456
02:29:05.760 --> 02:29:09.520
complaining that they can't vape, like
around people in meeting rooms at the office

2457
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:15.159
and stuff like that. Is vaping
on planes a thing a thing that you

2458
02:29:15.239 --> 02:29:18.600
cannot do. Early on a window
of time when it was allowed, there's

2459
02:29:20.280 --> 02:29:22.120
people maybe tried to do it and
we're told like, hey, fucking don't

2460
02:29:22.159 --> 02:29:26.360
do that. And then someone went
like it's just fucking water vapor man,

2461
02:29:26.639 --> 02:29:30.440
Yeah, and then they got cold
fucking stop. Yeah. I think some

2462
02:29:30.559 --> 02:29:31.959
guy at a bar in Kansas explaining
to me like, no, you can

2463
02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:35.280
totally do this on a plane wherever. It's not tobacco smoke, you know.

2464
02:29:35.559 --> 02:29:39.479
But it will it will get the
ship regulated out of it at some

2465
02:29:39.600 --> 02:29:43.799
point. Yeah, because if there
there's one thing the government loves, it's

2466
02:29:43.840 --> 02:29:48.360
taxing shit like that, and so
they'll they'll do that. But yeah,

2467
02:29:48.760 --> 02:29:50.079
it's I don't know, it's the
wild West in that scene right now,

2468
02:29:50.159 --> 02:29:52.520
and people are going crazy and there. They want to keep it legal,

2469
02:29:52.600 --> 02:29:58.280
keep it free, keep it keep
it out there. Man's second hand vaping.

2470
02:29:58.319 --> 02:30:01.120
The worries keep vaping for the people. It depends on what's in that

2471
02:30:01.159 --> 02:30:03.200
stuff, yeah, and what the
effects of them, and maybe they need

2472
02:30:03.239 --> 02:30:05.600
to study that a little more just
to make sure. Who knows. I

2473
02:30:05.799 --> 02:30:09.719
have what friend who vapes and I
at one point let him vape in my

2474
02:30:09.799 --> 02:30:13.200
house and it was, you know, I would certainly not let him smoke

2475
02:30:13.239 --> 02:30:16.959
cigarettes in my fucking house. Yeah, And it was like, you know,

2476
02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:22.760
some fucking raspberry bubble banana berry but
stuff, I don't know, it

2477
02:30:22.920 --> 02:30:28.239
is really good and but and it
was like, you know, the after

2478
02:30:28.399 --> 02:30:31.760
the scent in the room was like
not entirely unpleasant, So it was like

2479
02:30:31.840 --> 02:30:33.479
kind of gross, but it was
like, okay, I could I could

2480
02:30:33.520 --> 02:30:35.559
live with this. So somebody was
doing it in their house, it wouldn't

2481
02:30:35.600 --> 02:30:39.040
like yellow the walls and their teeth
and stuff like that, right, or

2482
02:30:39.120 --> 02:30:41.639
staining the crop probably probably not,
I don't know, but you know,

2483
02:30:41.680 --> 02:30:43.360
like I let him doing the house
and it was it was not a big

2484
02:30:43.399 --> 02:30:46.000
issue. I had this worry of
just like, ah, is this couch

2485
02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:50.360
gonna like smell like this forever?
Like every time someone sits down as a

2486
02:30:50.360 --> 02:30:52.719
little bit of vape juice gonna come
puffing out of it or something. I

2487
02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:58.639
bought a George Thura good At nineteen
ninety tour shirt from eBay once good call,

2488
02:30:58.799 --> 02:31:01.079
and from the moment I opened the
package, my apartment smelled like like

2489
02:31:01.319 --> 02:31:07.159
just pure cigarettes from as you would
expect. My uncle passed away and I

2490
02:31:07.239 --> 02:31:09.959
got a lot of stuff that he
had in his house, like a copy

2491
02:31:09.040 --> 02:31:13.399
of RBI Baseball and some some like
keyboards, some music, you know,

2492
02:31:13.600 --> 02:31:16.360
some keyboards, my old guitar from
when I was a kid. I got

2493
02:31:16.440 --> 02:31:24.920
that back fucker anyway, and every
single piece of electronics just I couldn't keep

2494
02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:26.200
it in the house for like a
year. I had to keep it all

2495
02:31:26.200 --> 02:31:30.799
in the garage because of just the
cigarette smoke was just pouring. The smell

2496
02:31:30.840 --> 02:31:33.079
was just pouring off of every single
one of these things. It's a really

2497
02:31:33.159 --> 02:31:39.040
bad staine. It's so much worse
when it's been like baked into something than

2498
02:31:39.079 --> 02:31:41.440
when it's like fresh out of someone
smoking. So that's why when you go

2499
02:31:41.559 --> 02:31:43.239
look at like, you know,
for like a music hardware or just really

2500
02:31:43.360 --> 02:31:46.719
any kind of hardware on eBay or
something like that, they're always like from

2501
02:31:46.760 --> 02:31:50.399
a smoke free home. Yea,
Yeah, because that stuff gets fucking nasty.

2502
02:31:50.760 --> 02:31:56.159
Gross. Speaking of gross, there's
an email from Nicholas. I'm twenty

2503
02:31:56.200 --> 02:31:58.280
one and considering buying a fanny pack. Yeah, you're ana. Are you

2504
02:31:58.399 --> 02:32:03.440
a professional wrestler? That's not all
the response I was expecting. But okay,

2505
02:32:03.600 --> 02:32:05.280
does it play music? Are you? Michael ps Hayes. If you

2506
02:32:05.360 --> 02:32:07.680
are a professional wrestler, then yeah, you need a place to keep you

2507
02:32:09.159 --> 02:32:13.159
to you need a fanny pack one
of the boys. Yeah, I under

2508
02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:18.920
any other circumstances, No, absolutely
not. I get press releases from this

2509
02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:22.719
fanny pack manufacturer that has like a
fucking boombox built into it. Yeah.

2510
02:32:22.760 --> 02:32:26.600
Yeah, like once I'll get one
of these, And I'm oddly intrigued.

2511
02:32:28.559 --> 02:32:33.520
Fanny Pack broke up and there's unfortunately
they're so convenient. I wish they'd come

2512
02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:37.159
back. Yeah, I wish fanny
pack would get back together as well.

2513
02:32:37.239 --> 02:32:39.120
I know, man, it's a
real bubber ghetto. Bootleg was a really

2514
02:32:39.159 --> 02:32:45.079
good, underrated Yeah. Huh.
Did I inadvertently stumble into reading a wrestling

2515
02:32:45.159 --> 02:32:48.000
email or the fanny pack thing?
Yeah? I mean they are completely linked

2516
02:32:48.239 --> 02:32:52.280
to wrestling, like and there are
in modern times the only people that would

2517
02:32:52.319 --> 02:32:58.559
wear a fanny pack today are like
completely crazy. Okay, our professional wrestlers

2518
02:32:58.959 --> 02:33:01.680
who are completely the only people I've
seen in the public wearing fanny packs in

2519
02:33:01.680 --> 02:33:05.639
the last I've seen part. I
mean, I've seen that classic photo of

2520
02:33:05.719 --> 02:33:09.680
the rock Yeah, I mean that
is that is okay. There are entire

2521
02:33:09.719 --> 02:33:13.079
tumblers dedicated to pictures of wrestlers wearing
fanny packs, and there's something they're They're

2522
02:33:13.120 --> 02:33:16.760
Hall of Fame ceremony. This year, one of the wrestlers came out literally

2523
02:33:16.840 --> 02:33:20.079
just wearing a fucking fanny packs.
Yeah. Yeah, one of the inductees.

2524
02:33:20.200 --> 02:33:24.479
Yes, yes, he inducted in
a fannie pack, which was somehow

2525
02:33:24.559 --> 02:33:31.120
the most the Bad Street USA sharing
fuck man. All right, two Moore

2526
02:33:31.200 --> 02:33:35.680
emails. I slightly regret reading this
email because I really have to pee,

2527
02:33:35.760 --> 02:33:39.639
but here we go. Amanda in
Dallas, writes in and says, I

2528
02:33:39.760 --> 02:33:43.639
was wondering if you could offer some
suggestions for a complete Nintendo nube. I

2529
02:33:43.719 --> 02:33:46.920
grew up. I grew up playing
video games with my dad, but I

2530
02:33:46.000 --> 02:33:48.799
never got the chance to get into
the Nintendo side of things. I remember

2531
02:33:48.840 --> 02:33:52.719
being eight years old and asking my
dad if we could finally buy a sixty

2532
02:33:52.760 --> 02:33:56.239
four. He turned to me and
said there will be no Nintendo in this

2533
02:33:56.360 --> 02:34:00.559
house. Nintendo is four children,
and proceeded to hand me a copy of

2534
02:34:00.680 --> 02:34:05.159
Death Trap Dungeon for the PlayStation and
sent me on my way. I was

2535
02:34:05.239 --> 02:34:09.000
eventually given a Game Boy Color one
birthday. Right, I'm really torn about

2536
02:34:09.040 --> 02:34:11.079
that. On one hand, I'm
like yeah, and I'm like no,

2537
02:34:13.879 --> 02:34:16.600
was this? Like was your dad
also posting to a lot of message boards

2538
02:34:16.600 --> 02:34:20.520
at the time, because that seems
very using it mostly man. I was

2539
02:34:20.600 --> 02:34:24.120
eventually given a Game Boy Color one
birthday thanks to my grandma, and spent

2540
02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:26.879
most of my time with that handheld
playing Pokemon Blue. I look at all

2541
02:34:26.879 --> 02:34:30.719
the love for the Mario and legend
of Zelda games and feel like like I

2542
02:34:30.799 --> 02:34:33.079
am sorely missing out as I've never
played a single into no game outside of

2543
02:34:33.120 --> 02:34:39.319
the Pokemon franchise. If you had
to choose five standout games to introduce a

2544
02:34:39.399 --> 02:34:43.040
right, maybe I should just go
to bathroom to introduce a new person to

2545
02:34:43.079 --> 02:34:46.879
the wonder for wonderful world of Nintendo. What games would you choose? They

2546
02:34:46.920 --> 02:34:52.399
can be from any platform past present. Okay, okay, let's Mario World,

2547
02:34:52.600 --> 02:34:56.000
right, sure, Yeah, Okay, that's that's the lock Man that

2548
02:34:56.079 --> 02:34:58.200
was quick, Yeah, linked to
the past. Okay, let's hang on.

2549
02:34:58.520 --> 02:35:03.360
I think the to her lot.
I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily,

2550
02:35:03.479 --> 02:35:05.959
but let's not go too SNSs heavy
right off the time. I know.

2551
02:35:05.040 --> 02:35:07.639
But but as far ast like,
you want like the best Mario and the

2552
02:35:07.639 --> 02:35:11.559
best Zelda, and I think that's
that m if you're interested in what the

2553
02:35:11.760 --> 02:35:15.840
like classic Nintendo meant around them.
But you know, I guess. But

2554
02:35:15.879 --> 02:35:18.799
also she doesn't, doesn't she was
saying. And she was also saying that,

2555
02:35:18.879 --> 02:35:22.680
like it didn't get an n sixty
four, so that stuff might be

2556
02:35:22.799 --> 02:35:26.559
too old. Yeah, Like the
joy of Mario sixty four when it came

2557
02:35:26.559 --> 02:35:28.959
out was like, holy shit,
I'm playing a three D video game.

2558
02:35:28.079 --> 02:35:31.120
If you played Mario sixty four now
for the first time, it wouldn't have

2559
02:35:31.719 --> 02:35:35.840
thirty percent. It's still a great
game, but it wouldn't have that holy

2560
02:35:35.920 --> 02:35:37.719
shit factor it had in ninety six. I'll give you that. Yeah,

2561
02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:43.200
so I want to lock those two
Super Nintendo ones. Trying to think other

2562
02:35:43.280 --> 02:35:46.200
series that like Super I think I
think that's prettymature. God damn, I

2563
02:35:46.239 --> 02:35:48.559
want to say Super Metro too,
But that's we're getting real sness heavy.

2564
02:35:48.600 --> 02:35:52.200
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hang out, You're falling into this

2565
02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:56.879
trap of the fucking Nintendo cannon that
you defended their graves and like gold Night

2566
02:35:56.000 --> 02:35:58.600
in Age, Well, I would
I would second the Super Metrod. I'm

2567
02:35:58.639 --> 02:36:03.120
just saying, yeah, okay,
listen, games, I think that there

2568
02:36:03.200 --> 02:36:07.520
are other games that, like you
could play instead of Super Metroid that you

2569
02:36:07.680 --> 02:36:11.879
would give you outside of a Nintendo
Yeah, like a sympony the Nighters.

2570
02:36:13.319 --> 02:36:16.120
Yeah, they would give you that
would they would do that thing like better?

2571
02:36:18.840 --> 02:36:22.799
But I don't know that I would
say the same about Super Mario World.

2572
02:36:24.559 --> 02:36:26.920
You might, you might be in
the world is the best like two

2573
02:36:26.959 --> 02:36:35.479
deep platformer in the world. Oh
man, I'm trying to look like any

2574
02:36:35.680 --> 02:36:41.000
s like the MegaMan's were, but
I don't know that those have an importance.

2575
02:36:41.319 --> 02:36:46.680
Yeah. I think that that like
something that I think we yeah,

2576
02:36:46.760 --> 02:36:50.479
we talked about before that like they're
removed from nostalgia. Are these games actually

2577
02:36:50.479 --> 02:36:54.639
important? And more often than not, the answer is absolutely. Are we

2578
02:36:54.680 --> 02:36:58.600
talking about historical No, I mean
I mean, like like across the board,

2579
02:36:58.639 --> 02:37:01.040
a lot of games. I mean, I think Mario World probably is

2580
02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:03.000
one of them that pokes through.
But yeah, yeah, are we talking

2581
02:37:03.120 --> 02:37:07.079
historical importance here though, or games
that would be fun to play right now.

2582
02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:07.959
I think it's got to be both. Yeah, I think that.

2583
02:37:09.000 --> 02:37:11.000
Well then you know Mario World Links
the Past I think totally satisfy both of

2584
02:37:11.040 --> 02:37:15.360
those. Yeah. You know,
you you have the benefit of being able

2585
02:37:15.360 --> 02:37:18.200
to play like Ocarina of Time on
three DS, and that's the best way

2586
02:37:18.239 --> 02:37:20.680
to play that game, Like,
it looks better, plays better, It's

2587
02:37:20.799 --> 02:37:24.280
got everything that made the original great. So I mean, if you're gonna

2588
02:37:24.280 --> 02:37:26.399
play Acarina for the first time,
I would say do it on three DS

2589
02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:30.319
unless you really want to big strain. But at that point I might even

2590
02:37:30.360 --> 02:37:37.040
say, like maybe play win Waker. Yeah, I think Opera is in

2591
02:37:37.120 --> 02:37:39.760
there. Yeah. Like, like
she specifically said, how would you want

2592
02:37:39.760 --> 02:37:43.280
to introduce somebody to Nintendo, Like, I mean, Zelda, Zelda,

2593
02:37:43.360 --> 02:37:48.040
Zelda burning two of your five games
on the same franchise, Yeah, sports

2594
02:37:48.680 --> 02:37:54.239
like that. That's a pretty good
answer like that, But I think I

2595
02:37:54.280 --> 02:37:56.079
think that's important, like if you
want to hit, if you're if the

2596
02:37:56.159 --> 02:38:01.079
goal is to introduce someone to Nintendo
and like and not just saying like at

2597
02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:03.520
some point they started drawing all these
characters like this, and they all look

2598
02:38:03.559 --> 02:38:07.440
like garbage. They're called me's here
because if it's the five best games,

2599
02:38:07.479 --> 02:38:09.760
there's gonna be a lot of Mario
and Zelda on there. Can I thrown

2600
02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:13.680
punch out? I mean you could, I just don't think you would.

2601
02:38:13.760 --> 02:38:16.319
I think it plays so good still. Maybe that's so nostalgia heavy for me,

2602
02:38:16.440 --> 02:38:22.280
but play so good because yeah,
if it's just the best games to

2603
02:38:22.319 --> 02:38:24.639
play now, I would say it's
all Selden Mario. For the most part,

2604
02:38:24.680 --> 02:38:26.600
I'm gonna say whatever the most current
animal crossing is at any given new

2605
02:38:26.680 --> 02:38:31.000
Leaf, Yeah, yeah, new
Leaf would be awesome. My favorite one.

2606
02:38:31.040 --> 02:38:33.680
I'm looking for breath here. Okay, Okay, I don't think you

2607
02:38:33.760 --> 02:38:39.120
get a star fucks in there.
I don't think. I don't think Pickman

2608
02:38:39.239 --> 02:38:50.000
makes the grade. No kidd of
chorus Man, Kirby m I don't think

2609
02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:54.239
there's that one Kirby game. It's
like this is starfy. Uh, Larry

2610
02:38:54.239 --> 02:38:58.440
Starvey is fun. Yeah, I
like star Me too, Uh, Kirby's

2611
02:38:58.440 --> 02:39:05.559
Pinball Land, brain Age, Sodoku. I mean i'd Rhythm Heaven, Warrio

2612
02:39:05.639 --> 02:39:09.600
Ware Ware, Yeahware might be a
good one. Warrior is a great way

2613
02:39:09.600 --> 02:39:13.959
to show up the weirdness of Nintendo
Doctor Mario, Yeah, that's great.

2614
02:39:16.040 --> 02:39:20.040
Doctor Mario is pretty good. Any
S Tetris the one Nintendo made, Yeah,

2615
02:39:22.159 --> 02:39:26.680
but then show the other one and
go like sometimes Nintendo was business Yep.

2616
02:39:26.200 --> 02:39:31.360
Mario Sunshine, what's there? Should
be good games if you want to,

2617
02:39:31.520 --> 02:39:35.079
like, if you want five reasons
to stay away from Nintendo, we

2618
02:39:35.120 --> 02:39:41.799
can get into Mario Sunshine. M
okay, animals. I think Animal crossing

2619
02:39:41.879 --> 02:39:45.639
a sound. I think Mario Worlds
sound like to the Past to sound.

2620
02:39:45.879 --> 02:39:48.239
There's three locks, I think.
I think whet Sports is a good Yeah,

2621
02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:52.239
it's a super important one. I
mean that is at the top of

2622
02:39:52.280 --> 02:39:54.760
their game, working with the tools
at hand. So what are we making

2623
02:39:54.760 --> 02:39:58.280
an imminently playable game. So we
don't have sixty four GameCube or we you

2624
02:39:58.239 --> 02:40:03.079
or any s represented here, there's
got to be something on any s.

2625
02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:09.920
I mean five standout games. That's
that's the only mandate. I mean,

2626
02:40:11.000 --> 02:40:15.319
I would I would say Mario Galaxy
two. I mean, because then there's

2627
02:40:15.360 --> 02:40:18.360
three D Mario. I say,
you get the best three D Mario and

2628
02:40:18.440 --> 02:40:20.840
the best two D Mario, you
get World in Galaxy two. That's too

2629
02:40:20.920 --> 02:40:24.399
much Mario. Never I think with
only five games and the Breath of Ninten.

2630
02:40:24.440 --> 02:40:28.399
Those catalog Mario Telda are the best
games they make by far on the

2631
02:40:28.440 --> 02:40:31.639
same franchise. In terms of games
that hold up, I think that that

2632
02:40:31.799 --> 02:40:35.479
starts to make sense. I think
it makes because two D and three D

2633
02:40:35.520 --> 02:40:41.639
Mario games are so different. What
about Donkey Kong the first one? Yeah,

2634
02:40:43.360 --> 02:40:46.479
what about Junior I always prefer Junior
Snass, Mario Kark done, Oh,

2635
02:40:46.760 --> 02:40:54.719
Mario Karto Double double Dash's no,
I mean, just whatever the newest

2636
02:40:54.760 --> 02:40:56.799
one is, because that's how it
works. Eight is actually really good.

2637
02:40:56.879 --> 02:41:01.280
Play the new one and that's the
one you like, and than everything that's

2638
02:41:01.399 --> 02:41:03.239
terrible and Double Dash are the best
ones. I think. I want to

2639
02:41:03.280 --> 02:41:09.479
Mario your card in there. Yeah, it's pretty important important. Yeah,

2640
02:41:09.639 --> 02:41:16.239
Mario Karts are pretty damn like to
Nintendo. Yes, those things we play.

2641
02:41:16.879 --> 02:41:20.559
Yeah, yeah, you want basic
sales? Here you go, you

2642
02:41:20.639 --> 02:41:26.319
play, there, you go.
I'd say Double Dash m game represented.

2643
02:41:26.760 --> 02:41:30.280
All right, that's a good list
of games. Yeah, maybe not maybe

2644
02:41:30.360 --> 02:41:33.879
not a hard five, but that's
a one and two for sure. Mario

2645
02:41:33.959 --> 02:41:37.600
World and Zelda, like in past, enjoy buying buying all of those systems

2646
02:41:37.959 --> 02:41:43.040
as well. Yes, indeed,
probably get most of that stuff on virtual

2647
02:41:43.079 --> 02:41:45.879
console with this power. Yeah,
you totally get those two and well oh

2648
02:41:46.079 --> 02:41:48.159
yeah, well not what if it
was one game that could be a million

2649
02:41:48.239 --> 02:41:54.559
game? You just got Super Mario
Maker. Yeah, actually that's that's a

2650
02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:58.920
good one too. No, it's
not. We're introducing people to that stuff

2651
02:42:00.040 --> 02:42:01.600
like that's a little bit much.
If you gave them a Super Mario World

2652
02:42:01.760 --> 02:42:05.280
also, then then it makes sense. But just on its own, like

2653
02:42:05.559 --> 02:42:11.559
you'd see like the art style and
anyone, but you about any any point

2654
02:42:11.600 --> 02:42:13.959
of reference, then yeah, it's
a lot to take in. Mario two.

2655
02:42:13.760 --> 02:42:18.479
Who Mario two is pretty good?
Yeah, all right? Last email

2656
02:42:18.520 --> 02:42:24.280
Brad from Yorkshire in the UK.
The drive to E three. My soon

2657
02:42:24.360 --> 02:42:26.760
to be wife and I are spending
some of our honeymoon around LA and San

2658
02:42:26.799 --> 02:42:31.920
Francisco. Part of this involves renting
a car and driving from La up to

2659
02:42:31.079 --> 02:42:35.000
San Francisco. As a brit and
very much a tourist, is there anything

2660
02:42:35.120 --> 02:42:39.159
you can recommend seeing on the drive
between the two cities? I ask,

2661
02:42:39.319 --> 02:42:43.799
because you have most likely made this
trip for E three. Taco. That's

2662
02:42:43.840 --> 02:42:48.680
for damn taco. Doctor Hogley woggles? Yeah, what is that? Doctor

2663
02:42:48.920 --> 02:42:52.200
Hogley wog LEAs Tyler, Texas barbecue. We've talked about it before. And

2664
02:42:52.559 --> 02:42:58.520
what does Sepulvida? What's it called
that city? Yeah? Is that as

2665
02:42:58.520 --> 02:43:01.399
a road? It's not. I
don't think it's a it's a sub the

2666
02:43:01.479 --> 02:43:07.239
pod racer that Anakin goes against some
episode one. Fucking I don't know,

2667
02:43:07.440 --> 02:43:13.959
man, ask me anything about Star
Wars episode one. It's sup boulevard there

2668
02:43:13.520 --> 02:43:18.120
n there was a kid and they
pod raced And what's what's the name of

2669
02:43:18.159 --> 02:43:20.959
the green guy with tentnacle hair that
grins a lot? Is that is that

2670
02:43:22.159 --> 02:43:24.680
jar rib? Does he have technacle
hair? I don't have, just years

2671
02:43:24.719 --> 02:43:30.440
that look like dressings. I'm talking
about kid fisto. Man. Oh okay,

2672
02:43:31.079 --> 02:43:33.520
oh shit, move on. But
yes, that is some of the

2673
02:43:33.559 --> 02:43:37.280
best barbecue. Like I have not
had good barbecue in California, but then

2674
02:43:37.719 --> 02:43:41.399
somehow this weird place in California is
some of the best barbecue I've had,

2675
02:43:41.479 --> 02:43:45.040
counting all the places in Kempas City. But if you're like a tourist and

2676
02:43:45.079 --> 02:43:48.840
you're making that drive, don't take
Hi five, like take the drive up

2677
02:43:48.840 --> 02:43:52.239
the coast, drive up Highway one
probably and it's how long is the year

2678
02:43:52.840 --> 02:43:54.600
it adds? Maybe an hour or
something like that. But it's that it

2679
02:43:54.680 --> 02:43:58.920
was like twice as long as no. No, totally worth it. But

2680
02:43:58.159 --> 02:44:01.440
you know there's a you know a
lot of nice touristy type places. You

2681
02:44:01.520 --> 02:44:03.639
know, go through Big sur go
through a lot of you know, it

2682
02:44:03.760 --> 02:44:07.360
drives through that area during the day
though, I mean obviously, Yeah,

2683
02:44:07.399 --> 02:44:09.239
it's very windy roads and it you
know, it can get a little foggy,

2684
02:44:09.360 --> 02:44:13.600
like go the whole length. Yeah, like what one becomes one of

2685
02:44:13.680 --> 02:44:16.040
one? You can go that way, so I take you through like Monterey

2686
02:44:16.079 --> 02:44:18.280
and stuff. I think. So, Okay, it's been a while.

2687
02:44:18.399 --> 02:44:20.360
It's been a while since I've gone
that way. Yeah. Man, that's

2688
02:44:20.360 --> 02:44:22.719
a way more serious answer than I
was expecting. If you have I figured

2689
02:44:22.760 --> 02:44:26.559
it was just like Santaella Del Taco
go if you have pale skin, you

2690
02:44:26.600 --> 02:44:28.520
can get insulted by Danny Dwyer.
That's a favorite. Yeah. Yeah,

2691
02:44:28.559 --> 02:44:31.799
stop of that Del Taco and Danny
Dwyer will say something horrible about you.

2692
02:44:33.479 --> 02:44:37.200
What fucking monster. Yeah, the
one is probably the way to go.

2693
02:44:37.399 --> 02:44:41.719
Yeah, see some see some scenery. I guess I eat some seafood.

2694
02:44:41.760 --> 02:44:43.959
I guess I'll be making that drive
again in a couple of months here.

2695
02:44:43.440 --> 02:44:48.440
Fuck, why don't you just fly? I don't know, it's so much

2696
02:44:48.479 --> 02:44:52.760
faster. Having done the drive last
year, I really enjoyed that. Yeah,

2697
02:44:52.040 --> 02:44:56.000
it's and not the airport. Yeah
yeah, but eating tacos. Yeah,

2698
02:44:56.000 --> 02:44:58.200
but you've done it like once,
not for the better part of two

2699
02:44:58.239 --> 02:45:01.520
decades at ly, See why Jeff
does it? Like if I had a

2700
02:45:01.559 --> 02:45:03.479
car, i'd consider it. I
thought, I just thought. I don't

2701
02:45:03.479 --> 02:45:07.000
know. I've always found it relaxing, and partially because like I never had

2702
02:45:07.040 --> 02:45:09.719
to like load a ton of gear. Yeah. Like if I was like,

2703
02:45:09.879 --> 02:45:11.639
you know, fucking Frank Adams driving
the U haul full of shit,

2704
02:45:11.760 --> 02:45:15.239
I'd be like, this is terrible. Aren't we a big company? Why

2705
02:45:15.280 --> 02:45:16.559
do we have to haul our own
ship? This is bad? Yea?

2706
02:45:18.200 --> 02:45:22.120
But yeah, and sure enough they
don't do that anymore. A company comes

2707
02:45:22.120 --> 02:45:26.040
in and drives the truck down.
Sure it's not fucking game spot live hauling

2708
02:45:26.079 --> 02:45:31.760
their own ship to U hauls or
whatever. It was fun when we there

2709
02:45:31.799 --> 02:45:35.520
was a big caravan of like eight
cars or whatever full of people. Yeah,

2710
02:45:35.600 --> 02:45:37.159
but it was silly, But that
all that all fell away? Would

2711
02:45:37.200 --> 02:45:41.440
you guys stop it like this?
Sometimes run into people, Yeah, yes,

2712
02:45:41.559 --> 02:45:45.159
now, yeah, I am literally
the last man standing on the fucking

2713
02:45:45.239 --> 02:45:46.840
grand tradition of that drive. I
mean we used to. This was back

2714
02:45:46.879 --> 02:45:50.840
in the era of the little little
plug in AM transmitter. Sure that you

2715
02:45:52.040 --> 02:45:54.760
plug into your like your iPod I
guess at the time, Yeah, to

2716
02:45:54.799 --> 02:45:56.559
play music. So we would like
we would like pull up alongside each other's

2717
02:45:56.600 --> 02:46:01.760
cars and like try to tune in
the other cars little like mobile AM station.

2718
02:46:01.440 --> 02:46:05.760
Let's hear what they were listening to. That's pretty It was a dumb

2719
02:46:05.079 --> 02:46:09.399
thing. That was fun. Yeah, all right, bobcast at GiantBomb dot

2720
02:46:09.440 --> 02:46:13.239
com is the email address you got
any emails you want to send in?

2721
02:46:13.760 --> 02:46:20.040
Please do? Uh? I guess
that's it, that bad little show.

2722
02:46:20.239 --> 02:46:22.479
Yeah yeah, I think so.
How you feeling about it? We've got

2723
02:46:22.559 --> 02:46:26.280
eleven new results for dark Yeah.
Okay, yeah, we gotta we gotta

2724
02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:30.840
do it. Hang on, I
gotta pull up this form thread results on

2725
02:46:30.959 --> 02:46:37.319
what tweets? That's it? Yeah? Really for Dark Souls crash that huh,

2726
02:46:37.799 --> 02:46:39.879
it's all broken. It seems like
people are going to steam. It

2727
02:46:39.920 --> 02:46:45.559
seems like that's that Steve thread was
growing last night checked, whereas this one

2728
02:46:45.680 --> 02:46:48.159
is someone writing to Vinny and saying
Dark Souls three is the Dark Souls of

2729
02:46:48.239 --> 02:46:52.760
testing for Crash bugs. That's that's
deep. I guess. Yeah, I'm

2730
02:46:52.799 --> 02:46:56.479
pulling up this form again. Let's
do one last scan. Yeah, it

2731
02:46:56.520 --> 02:47:01.040
looks like it's pretty much still consolidated
to that one thread, which is now

2732
02:47:01.319 --> 02:47:09.840
at how many pages? Forty seven
pages? Now? Geez, start up

2733
02:47:09.959 --> 02:47:13.559
Crash at the first bonfire. Whenever
I walk to bonfire, Crash is my

2734
02:47:13.639 --> 02:47:20.680
game. Mhmm, yeah, it's
happening. It's out there, Yeah,

2735
02:47:20.840 --> 02:47:26.319
it's it's really kind of crazy that
this is something that we've seen for I

2736
02:47:26.399 --> 02:47:28.479
guess like a couple of weeks now, right, Yeah, and that it

2737
02:47:28.600 --> 02:47:31.760
is out there for sale now still
not fixed, yep, that's uh,

2738
02:47:31.840 --> 02:47:35.399
that's something else man hopefully gets fixed. I have to assume it's probably hard

2739
02:47:35.440 --> 02:47:41.559
to nail down what's going on with
that, but we'll have a review of

2740
02:47:41.600 --> 02:47:46.520
that game in your future and some
other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yep,

2741
02:47:46.639 --> 02:47:48.879
yes, yes, indeed, excellent. Uh, what else is going

2742
02:47:48.920 --> 02:47:52.559
on this week? What else is
going on this week? We're gonna be

2743
02:47:54.600 --> 02:48:01.360
I'm locking Dan and yes, that's
right, fucking done with the Melican fucking

2744
02:48:01.399 --> 02:48:07.399
sit down and play this game until
it's over you. Motherfucker's Adazonrew all right,

2745
02:48:07.639 --> 02:48:09.920
Yeah, I will be in that
room. That's gonna happen, Drew,

2746
02:48:09.920 --> 02:48:11.600
He's gonna beat it. You're gonna
be in that room high energy,

2747
02:48:13.440 --> 02:48:18.280
eating snacks, being helpful. Bring
a stack of calorie in there, because

2748
02:48:18.280 --> 02:48:20.639
you're gonna need it. Yeah,
I would like to get some of that.

2749
02:48:20.799 --> 02:48:24.559
I'm setting done. I'm not kidding
by locking the door though. Yeah,

2750
02:48:24.000 --> 02:48:26.600
it's time bring a jar. Al
right, Well we will look forward

2751
02:48:26.600 --> 02:48:30.440
to that later in the week.
Yeah, that's when some other stuff will

2752
02:48:30.479 --> 02:48:33.319
happen. Yes, the videos will
get posted. Yes, taxes next week.

2753
02:48:33.479 --> 02:48:39.719
Oh life, she's what's happening all
around you. We should go live

2754
02:48:39.760 --> 02:48:41.040
it? Okay, I guess let's
get the hell out of here. All

2755
02:48:41.079 --> 02:48:45.159
right, thanks for listening. We
will be back with another episode, same

2756
02:48:45.239 --> 02:48:46.799
time, same place. See you
next week.