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So conservatives for once find something that
is gaining popular interest and acclaim and a

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line of attack on a social issue
that's gaining widespread acceptance, which is targeting

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extremely non child friendly, adult oriented, child age inappropriate sexual content in books

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in public school libraries as well as
in other public libraries. And of course

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we are hit with this charge that
we are in favor of book bands.

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And of course what does the media
to do with the media adopts completely wholesale

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the language of the left to describe
the issue because they are big mad about

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this, so they cannot actually report
on this accurately. They have to use

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precisely the preferred euphemisms, the preferred
language of the left when it comes to

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this controverted question. So that is
what is presented to itself to us.

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Rather with this piece from Sacramento b
reporting on a new bill that has been

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introduced into the California State Assembly AB
one eight two five, the California Freedom

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to Read Act, which aims to
prevent public libraries from banning literatures so called

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in a discriminatory manner. And this
even gets me to this is a John

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Girardi bugaboo. Discrimination. Oh,
that's discrimination. That's no good. Discrimination

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as such is not illegal or civilly
evil. In America, I think we

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have this sense in our heads that
all discrimination is bad. When you hear

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the word discrimination, you think bad
stuff. Why Well, because you're thinking

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about various kinds of things that involve
unreasonable, harmful discrimination. All right,

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If you're discriminating in your hiring or
in the people you choose to serve in

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your business on the basis of race, well that's wrong, that's unreasonable.

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The fact that someone has skin of
a different color than you, or is

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of a different ethnicity from you,
does not, in and of itself make

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that person unqualified for the job that
you're hiring for or unworthy of service from

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your business. Okay, if a
grocery store is out here deciding we're not

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going to serve African Americans, well
that's a really horrible thing to do.

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Why not? Why wouldn't you serve
African Americans. Discrimination on the basis of

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race is an unreasonable category. It
is unjustly saying that this certain group of

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people who have a characteristic that they
cannot control. They cannot control their national

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origin, they cannot control their racial
background. That's just who they are to

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just exclude them from society on the
basis of something so silly as skin color

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is unjust, but not all forms
of discrimination are unreasonable or unjust. Here's

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a form of discrimination that businesses do
all the time. No shoes, no

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shirt, no service. But you're
discriminating against those who choose to go shoeless

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or shirtless. Yeah, yes,
we're allly gonna serve people in our store

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who are fully clothed. Sorry,
you do have the right to discriminate In

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America, the government has the right
discriminate on all kinds of characteristics. Employers

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discriminate all all the time. Three
years experience needed for a job posting.

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Government does that all the time.
All kinds of people do that all the

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time. You're discriminating on the basis
of min Yeah, this is a form

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of discrimination that's legal and legitimate.
We are allowed to discriminate on the basis

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of how much work experience you have. This position must have a bachelor's degree.

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Need to have a bachelor's degree to
apply. Oh, you're discriminating against

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people without a bachelor's degree. Yes, yes, that's what we're doing.

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Okay, So discriminating is not per
se bad. It depends on the kind

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of question. The category that you
are using for discriminating is the category which

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is form the basis for your criticism
for your discrimination. Is that an unlawful

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category? And that's what the Civil
Rights Acts were. It was establishing that

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businesses and the government in its conduct
in various respects. There were several different

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civil rights acts. It wasn't just
one single act. It was establishing that

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businesses, for example, may not
discriminate on the basis of and then it

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gave several different categories race, religion, et cetera, ethnic background, skin

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color in certain contexts. Sex now
not not in all contexts, Okay,

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there some there's greater latitude for sex
based discrimination in certain ways in certain areas,

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respecting the fact that there are genuine
biological differences between the sexes, and

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so discrimination in certain context on the
basis of sex is not unreasonable. Having

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different physical fitness standards for men and
women within the military, for example,

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makes a certain degree of sense if
you're going to have male and female service

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members. Men and women are different. Now, the outcry that's being made

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over school boards and governing bodies overseeing
library systems throughout California and Generally speaking,

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in California, libraries are run by
counties. So in Fresno County, the

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library system is part of the Fresno
County government. It's the Fresno County Library.

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And who is the governing body for
the County of Fresno. It's the

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County Board of Supervisors. So the
County Board of Supervisors hires the librarian,

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who's the chief officer for all the
libraries within Fresno County, who in turn

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hires subordinate employees to manage this branch
and this branch in this branch and this

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branch employees to help out the manager
for this branch of this branch, this

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branch. Okay, So that's just
that's how that's the structure of how this

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works. Also, you have libraries
within public schools. Okay, public schools

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are governed by their school boards,
their school boards of trustees, Close,

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unified, president unified, Central,
unified, et cetera. They each have

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a governing board of trustees. And
that's one of the things to remember with

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all of this is that the people
who govern these different library systems are accountable

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to voters. There is democratic control
over the county libraries. There is democratic

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control over the public school libraries through
elected school board or county supervisor, school

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board members or elected county supervisors.
All right, that is how American governance

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works, and this is how it's
working in these smaller contexts of county government

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and the school board government and school
board government governance. I should say,

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the people elect the school board members. The school board members are there to

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represent the people and what the people
have asked them to do within the confines

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of the law. County supervisors are
there to be responsive to the people who

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elected them, within the confines of
the law. So in a number of

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school districts around California and a number
of county governments in California, including Fresno

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County, actions have been taken to
remove certain kinds of books from children's libraries

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and children's libraries sections in some fashion
or another. Now within the confines of

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the law. California law forbids discrimination
on the basis of sexual orientation and gender

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identity, So a county supervisor or
a you know, school board member can't

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ask that all the gay books be
removed. However, there are certain other

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categories that county supervisors like Steve Brandell, for example, have looked at to

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say, hey, these books aren't
necessarily appropriate in the kids section. Introducing

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sexualized content, just generally sexualized content
to children at an excessively early age,

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and possibly in a flippant fashion,
is not good for childhood, healthy sexual

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development. Those books don't all need
to be in the public school library.

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They don't all need to be in
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That's not a protected category. Okay, yes, we are discriminating against one

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is discriminating against this book or that
book, but it's on the basis of

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suitability for childhood development. If you're
a librarian running a library for children,

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you have to discriminate on that basis
all the time. That's the whole reason.

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To have a kid's section of library
means that you have engaged in a

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massive systematic act of discrimination, which
we call library curating, in order to

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segregate out. These are all of
the books that are written at a kid's

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reading level, that are appropriate for
kids. Okay, we're gonna put them

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all in the kids section. You
know, we're not gonna put like Wilt

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Chamberlain's Autobiography, which is written at
slightly more of like an adult level,

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and talks about Wilt Chamberlain having various
kinds of romantic escapades with hundreds and hundreds

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of ladies. Uh, that's not
gonna go in the kids section. All

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right, We'll put a biography of, you know, George, a biography

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of George Washington that's written out of
fifth grade reading level. We'll put that

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in the kid's section. Okay,
we'll put a biography about George Washington,

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Carver, We'll put a biography about
this person. We'll put it about Abraham

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Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Edison
and Benjamin Frank. Will put biographies of

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those guys written at that level.
We're not going to put the gritty details

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of the life of Uh, I
don't know, take your horrible per of

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Hugh Hefner. Yeah, we're not
going to put a detailed biography of Hugh

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Hefner in the kids section. Why, Because we curate, we discriminate.

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We say this book is suitable for
kids, and this book isn't. I

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think what the Left is trying to
argue is that as long as their book

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is coded as LGBT friendly, that
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It has to be in that kid's
section. It needs to be.

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And if any person right of Hillary
Clinton voices any kind of concern with it,

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any kind of objection to it,
any kind of anger with it,

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or dares to try to remove it, that must be unjust, unlawful discrimination.

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And in fact, it's a flat
out book band. It's goose step

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in nazis trampling all over the right
of kids to read. And that's just

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ridiculous. Again, It's called library
curation. That's what happens. Every library

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in America discriminates. You discriminate on
the basis of literary merit. You discriminate

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on the basis of genre, putting
one kind of thing in one section and

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another kind of thing in another section. You discriminate on age appropriateness, you

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discriminate on all kinds of categories within
the context of a library. But this

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discrimination saying that, hey, this
is not appropriate for kids for their sexual

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development, this is allegedly wrong.
We'll dig more into the details of this

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bill right after the break. This
is the John Girardi Show on Power Talk.

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The beginning of this Sacramento best story
about a new bill that's been introduced

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in the state legislature. AB one
eight two five, which is going to

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try to put roadblocks to prevent public
libraries from trying to engage in curation decisions

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to keep out age inappropriate books from
kids sections of libraries. Uh the story

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it begins with it feels like something. It feels like something I would have

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done, or maybe my wife and
I would have done. In February,

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Capital Books on k on K Street
in Sacramentos Downtown received at TI two star

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review critical of the store's children's book
section. It was Black History Month and

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the store was adorned with posters of
black children, families, and books to

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celebrate African American literature. Quote children's
section is littered with woke, leftist ideologue

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literature. The review read, however, it was nice that the children's section

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had a small chair in beanbags.
In support of its selection of diverse literature,

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and in opposition to the review,
Capital Books put the review on a

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shirt. The move has been lauded
as an example of how to deal with

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pushback by those in favor of book
bands by the American Booksellers Association. Capital

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Books co owner Ross rojek So,
the owner of the store, has lauded

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it as a way of dealing with
pushback. Also, it was not calling

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for a book ban. Also,
it had no objection to African American books.

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The objection was to woke leftist literature. That's a different thing, and

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wants somebody wants to claim there's too
much black representation in a bookstore, that

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is during Black History Month. Rojack
said, you can't please everybody, So

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we set up the article by demonstrating
people who dislike left wing books, really

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they dislike black people. That's really
what we're talking about. That everyone who

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objects the left wing stuff is a
horrible racist, and they support book bands,

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they support banning books. Even though
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a private bookstore, that someone's complaining, you have all this left wing book,

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all these left wing books, I
don't like them. That's not a

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call for a book ban, saying
hey, I don't like this bookstore because

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it has a bunch of left wing
literature in it. Book bands have been

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going on for as long as books
have been printed. Rojack said, is

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Rojack again someone who co owns a
bookstore. Is he really the authority on

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the entire history of books and banning? Why are we citing his view on

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those? But Now, critics often
target features stories. Critics often target features

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stories from LGBTQ plus and communities of
color that is poorly written. I think

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it's trying to say that critics often
target stories from LGBTQ and communities of color.

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But even that's grammatically bad anyway,
McClatchy, everybody, What it does

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is reduce representation and the ability for
children to find books that represent them or

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their family, Rojak said, And
then you can just hear the disdain dripping

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from this quote. Not every child
in public school is a straight is a

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white, straight, evangelical child.
So those children of color need to see

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books that represent themselves. Literally,
nobody in this current milieu of objecting to

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inappropriate books in libraries. Nobody has
objected to black people being portrayed. Not

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one person has objected to diverse racial
backgrounds of people being portrayed. What we're

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objecting to is the sex stuff.
That's what we're objecting to. Literally,

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nobody is upset that there are books
with African American characters or families or anything

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like that. Nobody. The only
thing we're objecting to is the sex stuff.

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Now, what is this bill allegedly
going to do this bill, which

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by the way, has nothing to
do with the first example that the article

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gives. The first example the article
gives is with a private bookstore. Private

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bookstore can put whatever the heck they
want within the confines. I guess of

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obscenity laws ABE one eight two five
would quote aims to prevent public libraries.

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So not the bookstore in the first
example in this story from banning literature in

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a discriminatory manner. They're already out
not legally able to do that. Libraries

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already can't say we're getting rid of
basic Again, let's let's remember what discrimination

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is. Discrimination is not bad,
what is bad in America. What is

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unlawful in America, more broadly,
is discrimination on the basis of certain protected

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categories, categories like race in California, sexual orientation, and gender identity.

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If you have a public library system
saying we're getting rid of every single book

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depicting a gay person, then yeah, that might be unlawful conduct. Maybe,

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But if you're a library and you
discriminate by shoving kid appropriate books in

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a kid's section and adult appropriate books
in adult sections, you're not engaged in

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discrimination. If you engage in curation
by saying this book is trashy. It's

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written towards kids, but it has
a bunch of age and appropriate stuff like

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cursing in sex and things like that. I'm not going to stock it on

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the shelf. You're not stomping all
over the First Amendment by so doing,

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You're not a goose step in Nazi. You're engaged in library curation. That's

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the job. Then it gets to
the real thing. We want professional librarians

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to be making decisions on how and
what books to provide to their local readers,

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rather than these vocal minorities with an
agenda to attack and suppress the voices

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and perspectives of LGPTQ plus and communities
of color, said assembly Member al Muratushi,

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a Democrat from Torrance who authored the
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let's go towards Fresno County here,
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That's the objection we keep hearing.
We need to let professional librarians do their

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jobs. Stop are the professional librarians
doing their jobs when you have a book

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written to kids under the age of
nine that shows a kid in a bathtub

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masturbating. This is aimed at children
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makes people feel. Is that really
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a public school library? Talking about
whether you feel sexy or not? Do

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you like the word sexy? Do
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year olds? Under nine year olds? That's one of the books. There

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are five copies of it within the
Fresno County library system. Our heroic professional

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librarians did such a great job bringing
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the voters and taxpayers of Fresno County. Ultimately, they are under the authority

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of the elected Board of Supervisors.
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people of Fresno County. The people
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Supervisors, and they pay all the
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for the salaries of all those amazing
quote professional librarians. The idea that these

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librarians have received some some wisdom from
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cannot touch about what is and isn't
appropriate for kids is bunk. They're not

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all experts in child psychosocial or sexual
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that publishing companies recommend that teachers,
that groups recommend that people donate, and

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they're stacking it on the shelves.
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without even really reviewing the books all
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they're doing a terrible job. They
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this institution that's fundamentally run by the
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a majority in Fresno County at the
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of the people on the Board of
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passed. It's not a vocal minority. When we return, I talk a

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little bit about Christy Nome and her
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met the leader of North Korea,
and some bigger discussions about who should be

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the vice president, all kinds of
fun stuff. Next on the John Girardi

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Show. Been loving all the coverage
and laughing at basically everything about Christy Nome

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and the whole story about her dog
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a bunch of chickens and stuff like
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over on the sidelines as a non
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dog, does not want to own
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I've been sort of over here laughing
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Christy Nome just completely sinking her chances
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has just leaned into it and just
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oh, don't buy the liberal media
near it was in your book you talked

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about killing your dog. I don't
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it. I actually am leaning towards
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kind of think that I don't think
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this. What I do think,
though, is that it's appealing to very

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very few people. If anything,
it's it makes her seem like a monster

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to basically suburbanite folks who kind of
don't understand this sort of country mentality that

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you know, animals are tools and
they're not you know, children, and

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if an animal is not serving its
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rid of it is not the worst
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also a lot of like rural people
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there's if if there's any group of
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be non suburban, non urban people
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love dogs even more than suburbanites.
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writing about this in her own autobiography
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of a huge turn off to a
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Who what does Donald Trump need to
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a real swing from twenty sixteen to
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needs suburban women. And I can
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suburban female vote than someone who shoots
their dog and just kind of keeps leaning

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into it. Well, and why
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have this sort of negative attitude towards
Christino? Well, she was just a

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huge waffler when it came to transgender
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governor of South Dakota, and a
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big hospital system, and this big
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hey, you shouldn't sign this bill
to prevent men biological males from participating

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in women's sports. And this hospital
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so all of a sudden, you
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this waffling puddle of mess when it
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men out of women's sports and various
kinds of transgender things. So, you

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know, I just don't really trust
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it gets to a moment of crisis, what do you do. I just

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don't really trust her. I mean, she's better than Kamala Harris, okay,

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but I don't really trust her.
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for the idea of her potentially being
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mate. But now there's even more
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her this same book, nom wrote
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Jong un while serving in Congress she
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I guess before she was governor on
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that she canceled a meeting with French
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can determine this the write up of
it in National Review, written by I

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think Jim Gerrity. To the best
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and Noame didn't help herself during a
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was interviewed by Margaret Brennan, who
said, so, you write about lessons

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learned in leadership, and you bring
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you about. You talk about meeting
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I remember when I met with North
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sure he underrested me, having no
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I have been a children's pastor,
after all, did you meet Kim

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Jong un? Nome response, Well, you know, as soon as this

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was brought to my attention, I
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passage, and I have met with
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around the world. As soon as
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went forward and have made some edits. So I'm glad that this book is

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being released in a couple of days
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and that people will will have the
updated version. So you did not

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meet with Kim Jong un, That's
what you're saying. Brendan questions Sir Nome

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responds, no, I have met
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world leaders. I have traveled around
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extensively in this book about my time
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before governor, some of the travels
that I've had. I'm not going to

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talk about my specific meetings with world
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that. This anecdote shouldn't have been
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it was brought to my attention,
I made sure that that was adjusted.

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indeed retracting things. Did you meet
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a yes or no question, And
the only reason Brendan is asking about it

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is because Noam wrote that she had
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this anecdote shouldn't have been in the
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to my attention, I made sure
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it was brought to her attention.
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so it's like clearly the book was
ghost written. I mean, this is

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clearly what's happening. The book was
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that carefully, or if she did, she somehow thought she could get away

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with this whole section talking about meeting
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looked back and real like, like, there's a record of this kind of

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thing, when members of a delegation
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leader or a world leader comes to
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of it. So she's either she
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but clearly she did because she recorded
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I mean, I think I'm kind
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this has sort of knocked her out
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she seems messy, and that leads
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who might be the vice president.
We'll talk about that next after the break.

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This is the John Gerardy Show on
Power Talk. Who is going to

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be the next vice president? Well, it's definitely not going to be Christy

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Nom. She's sort of settle that
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then also by claiming she met Kim
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He probably underestimated me, but I've
had enough time staring down tiny dictators

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back because I'm a sassy lady who
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You know, there's no record you
met Kim Jong un. And she's

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more or less admitted it because she
said that that section is not going to

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be in the second printing of her
book. So seems like Christy Nome is

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out, So who's it gonna be. Well, it sounds like it's kind

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of down to a couple of names. JD. Vans from Ohio. Doug

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Bergham, the governor of North Dakota, the former governor of North Dakota,

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who actually I kind of like seems
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have seen of him. Marco Rubio
of all people, which I find fascinating,

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although it does raise some problem.
Apparently there's a certain I guess it's

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in the twelfth Amendment. There's a
certain constitutional problem potentially with both a presidential

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nominee and a vice presidential nominee,
or a president and a vice president rather

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both coming from the same state Donald
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that there could be some kind of
complication there just legally, which I find

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interesting. I guess I'm not exactly
sure. None of these people really it

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doesn't seem like any of the names
that are being floated. Some people are

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floating Ben Carson, which I think
is kind of ridiculous, like and it's

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weird, like Carson is such an
objectively impressive person just his career as a

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surgeon, like he's this incredibly impressive
doctor. But I have just thought as

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a politician, I mean, he
was the former secretary of HUD. He

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just seems like he's not really adding
anything fairly boring, unimpressive, and I

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don't know, maybe that's what Trump
wants. I mean, Trump picked Mike

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Pence before. I think he wants
kind of a straight man to play off

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against, not like homosexual striving like
a straight man, for him to play

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off against, someone who seems normal
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So someone serious Bergham would kind of
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than anyone. I think Trump likes
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Van says he needs to be my
hammer in the Senate. He needs to

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be one advancing my policies in the
Senate. I think it's going to be

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Burgham, and I think it's kind
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of fulfill the role that Pence had. He's like the staid, serious,

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you know, chief subordinate, responsible
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a sense of calm that there's an
adult in the room here. But there

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is also this thing to think about
why. I sort of hope he leans

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towards Vance. Vance and Ruby are
certainly the most Tim Scott is the other

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sort of name in the bunch.
A little less enthused about Tim Scott.

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I'm not sure, just because I
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I like Tim Scott fine. I
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of a more interesting pick. And
Rubio and Vance have demonstrated a lot of

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intellectual interest and willingness to be sort
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think Scott is a fairly more conventional
conservative. I guess the problem is that

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none of these picks are delivering a
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That's one thing I have some concern
with. You know, you pick a

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vice president either for governance Dick Cheney
or to help you win a swing state

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Al Gore, Al Gore and also
Joe Biden. Okay, Joe Biden won

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Barack Obama Pennsylvania two straight years in
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as opposed to just a no load
who's there to win you a swing state.

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whoever is picked here, this is

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one of the most most significant vice
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Trump wins, we know he's not
getting another term. Who If Trump picks

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somebody and wins, that person's the
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eight. So I hope Trump kind
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this is not just someone who's an
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is someone who we need to kind
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chief. Could be the future for
both the country but also for the Republican

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Party. You know, is Doug
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Is Is he really the thing we
want to put up against Gavin Newsom?

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Maybe maybe he is. I don't
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He doesn't strike me as the most
exciting guy in the world. I've

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heard him speak a couple of times, and he seems fairly impressive from what

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I've read, and I think it's
going to be him. I guess my

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hope would be just for the ideological
future of the Republican Party. I would

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prefer advance above everyone else. That'll
do what for John Girardi Show, See

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you next time on Power Talk