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So yeah, this weekend, 18 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,280 So my kids are just started spring break as well, right, no, 19 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,640 mine, this is their last week. Oh they're off the first week 20 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,680 at April. Oh oh okay, this is their last week of school. 21 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:56,799 So mine aor off this week. They had Friday off, so a week 22 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:00,480 ago, and then they've had all this week off and then they also Monday 23 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:07,719 off. Jesuise. Yeah, but it's really cute, like Xander has friends, 24 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:14,719 and I feel like Xander is living his childhood now because it's really cute. 25 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,560 He has these friends that live in walking distance, like a short walk 26 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:23,199 away, which he's never had in the past because the schools that we've gone 27 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:27,439 to have always been what they call commuter schools, which we still go to 28 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:30,879 one that's a little bit far. But it just so happens that some kids 29 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:36,400 live like five blocks from us, so they run around to each other's house. 30 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:44,280 They're always like walking places. And then had lyleyle Crocodile came over the 31 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,639 other day and he slept over kid is such a freaking sweetie. I want 32 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:58,479 to buy him as it's it's always funky because obviously his mom, like is 33 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:01,919 works a minimum wage job. I've told you before, she works her but 34 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:08,120 off. She is such like a rock star of a like does everything she 35 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:12,639 can for her kids, but like she doesn't have money, like she has 36 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:16,560 to pay She doesn't really get a ton of assistants these days because she's working 37 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:21,439 full time. But she works at a nursing home and she makes minimum wage. 38 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:27,159 So there are things that Lyle Isle Crocodile would love I'm sure would love 39 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,879 to do, and opportunities he would love, but like she can't pay for 40 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,919 that, And he's very He's so the opposite of any kind of a moocher, 41 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,800 Like anytime you do anything nice for the kid, he's always like thank 42 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,879 you so much, Like he never asks for anything, you know, which 43 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:49,280 makes you just want to buy him stuff. I just want to buy him 44 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,800 stuff. But then I also I don't want her to feel I don't want 45 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,280 his mom to feel bad, but like I know, she just like appreciates 46 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:59,840 everything. And I don't know if I ever followed up last time about when 47 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:03,520 everybody chipped in money for her Christmas. Oh my god. I gave it 48 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:09,159 to her at the school concert her kid was performing in that. She was 49 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:13,680 so proud and she always she's like a mom who of course works full time 50 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,560 has two kids, but will always try to come and help at events and 51 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,879 be like how can I help, you know, And I gave her the 52 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:23,399 money. She started crying, and then I know she gave her kids. 53 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:27,160 The kids told me later that she like bought them gifts and you know, 54 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:30,720 like made a really nice Christmas for them, so she really appreciated that. 55 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:36,879 But anyway, Xander's like having all these plans for like the neighborhood kids but 56 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,839 plus Lila Crocodile, and they want to It was really really cute. Xander 57 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:45,519 was like, Mom, like I really want to go to six Flags, 58 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,800 but like Lyle, you know, can't, like he can't ask his mom 59 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,759 to buy him like a pass, and I was like, of course, 60 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,319 yes, like say no, like you know what, you get it right, 61 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,720 and then I'm just like just tell him to tell his mom not to 62 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:05,519 worry about it and like get him a pass. And then she's He's like, 63 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,879 well, do you think we could get a season pass, which, 64 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,040 by the way, are not that much more money than like, if you 65 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,079 pay to go to six Bugs for one day, it's like eighty bucks. 66 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:17,800 If you buy a season pass, it's like one hundred and twenty. It's 67 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,079 not that much more, ok, and then you can go the rest of 68 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,399 the year. And he was like, do you think we could get him 69 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:27,279 like a season pass? He was like, I'll chip in for it. 70 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:33,399 Ah, isn't that so sweet? Very sweet? But anyway, so they 71 00:05:33,439 --> 00:05:36,360 were hanging out like they hang out with a big group of them, and 72 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:44,480 then Xander and Lyle made a freaking a fort in our living room. How 73 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,720 adorable is that? Like they went into the linen closet and got like blankets 74 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:53,079 and stuff, and he took the dining room chairs and I put them and 75 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,839 they made a giant fort. And then they made themselves some like Trader Joe's 76 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:00,360 like frozen, like someone says, brought it in the fort. And then 77 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:03,560 they watched TV. They made an opening because it was like in our living 78 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:06,959 room sort of in front of the TV, so they made an opening in 79 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,199 it and then watch TV like that. I love that. That's the best. 80 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,560 And then later that night we oh, then Lyle uh, he had 81 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,399 slept over the night before, so this was like they'd spent like two full 82 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,199 days together. So they were together the whole day before. Then he slept 83 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,800 over. Then they spent the day together, running around and walking everywhere and 84 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:33,399 hanging out with the other kids in the neighborhood. And then they to relax. 85 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:39,240 They made the fort and then I had to drive Lyle home. And 86 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,199 then Xander was like, Mom, I'm really tired. Can I just sleep 87 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,079 in the fort tonight and then I'll take it all down tomorrow. And I 88 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,279 was like, okay. I was like, are you nine? That's cute? 89 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:54,279 And it was the freaking kids thing. I should have taken a picture. 90 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,839 Yeah, And he had the couch cushions like in the fort as like 91 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:01,560 a little bed, and then he was sleepy. He slept and slept in 92 00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:06,079 there. How cute is that he's sixteen? I think that's adorable. I 93 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:10,959 would love that. I love that. I don't feel like I don't feel 94 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:14,839 like he had friend Like a lot of that's at the younger age. We 95 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:16,800 were always struggling for, like, right, where do we put this kid 96 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:20,079 in school? Like that's true, I remember, you know, and he 97 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,399 was now he's changing a lot around that age. And some kids were not 98 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,000 as cool, right, and now he's got like a ton of gang and 99 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 ends and that's awesome and he's like being a kid. Yeah, I love 100 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:39,160 that. I me's so happy. Yeah, I get it. I totally. 101 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,120 I would love that. It's the best and all, you know, 102 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,519 it's true, like he's now, you know, it's a different scene. 103 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,439 You know, they're getting he's getting older. But he's got like these friends. 104 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,639 And it's so much easier when you can just go and walk and see 105 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,839 your friend or just have your friend spend the night and just hang out for 106 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,839 a few days. Then ye have to like make plans and try and get 107 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,879 who's going to drive us, and where are we going and whose house are 108 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,079 we hanging out at the whole thing. But it's it's so much easier when 109 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,959 they're close by. Because I had the same growing up. I I my 110 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,879 house, I lived in West Hills, and I went to the Magnet School 111 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,480 in Van Eyes, right, and everybody was busted in from all over. 112 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,199 The only friend we had was my friend Pam, who lived up the street 113 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,319 on Encino. Everybody else came from all different parts of the city and it's 114 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,399 hard, you know. Yeah, so when you go to a school like 115 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,279 that, and if you don't live near your friends, it's tough. Yes, 116 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,200 yeah, this is the first time. And also Xander is a lot 117 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:41,120 like Sunny and that he likes. He he's always walking. So the other 118 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:48,120 day he's did nine miles on his you know the thing that you can check 119 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,000 right right miles on your phone. It's called not a fitbit, but it's 120 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,720 on your phone. Yeah, yeah, he wrote he did twenty thousand steps 121 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,360 and went like nine miles. The other day. He just walks and walks 122 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,279 and walks and walks. They all walk back and forth to what I call 123 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:07,240 the Bermuda Triangle, which is basically like there's a target, a CVS on 124 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,120 opposite sides of the street, Like to the right there's a target and like 125 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:16,360 a Western bagel. Across the street there's a CVS. On the other side 126 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:20,559 there's like a Michael's and a Chili's. And so they do they can kind 127 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,600 of live their whole day right in that area. And then they walk back 128 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:26,480 and then they walk to the other friend's house, and then they walk back 129 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,679 to our house and then they go right. It's so nice. Yeah, 130 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,559 it's nice. And Sandy had her friend her little friend over. I say 131 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:37,840 little because she's short. They're both like short. It's really cute. She 132 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:41,879 has like a bunch of girl friends and they're all small. That's so funny. 133 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,399 It's really funny. They all look young and they you know, I 134 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,919 had to I have to drive them because they're you know, princesses, right, 135 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,759 but like they're going thrifting and like everybody's so busy. Yeah, it's 136 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:58,919 just really nice. And now they're planning their six Flags trip and that's great. 137 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,519 Yeah, all kids go to six Flags on spring break. It's so 138 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,399 funny, especially at that age. Yeah, they love they love six Flags. 139 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Luckily, a lot of kids don't get out until next next week, 140 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,159 so hopefully it'll be won't be super packed, right right. Yeah, And 141 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,120 then I have one thing that I want to tell you update you. Yeah, 142 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,639 I feel like I feel like she wouldn't mind me telling you this, 143 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:33,039 but for Sadie, so you know, and you've had this too with your 144 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:39,159 kids a little bit. But Sadie has had some like learning challenges, right, 145 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:41,840 and we just don't it's hard to know what it is. It's like 146 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:46,759 I think Sadie suspects she has some ADHD. You know. I know, 147 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:54,679 I do. I know John does not officially diagnosed, right, but it's 148 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,159 she says she has trouble focusing. But she has doctors that are like, 149 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,679 well, the results when we give her, administer her a self test and 150 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:11,240 what I've written about how I see her, They're like, the results are 151 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:18,679 very borderline. I can't prescribe medicine for that without knowing she has it. 152 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,159 But it would require more in depth testing. Well, anybody that's dealt with 153 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:28,440 this kind of testing for like processing stuff for ADHD. It's so expensive. 154 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,600 Now. She tested at school, but it was a couple of years ago 155 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,559 and it was kind of inconclusive. And I think it's because I don't know. 156 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:43,879 I don't think it was the most professional testing. I think they tested 157 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:48,120 her and they came up with borderline, so they gave her accommodations. They 158 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,879 gave her five oh four, so she gets accommodations. But her doctor was 159 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,639 like, I think you need to test her again and really get to the 160 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:03,159 bottom of what this is. I was like, well, this testing, 161 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,919 they don't take insurance and they charge like eight thousand dollars. Oh my god, 162 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Oh yeah, it's that much. Oh it's crazy how much these places 163 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,080 charge. It's definitely even if you find a lower priced option, it's definitely 164 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,559 thousands of dollars right, which is just like in my mind, I'm always 165 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,399 thinking, okay, but what do you actually get out of that, because 166 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,720 it's just going to ask that so and I'm sure people right now are yelling 167 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:35,799 at their phone or however they're listening to this with like all the reasons why 168 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,279 you should know this and what you can and I do understand that, and 169 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,799 I talk to this place. Here's the spoiler alert. My doctor gave me 170 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:50,919 the name of a place that she said takes insurance. And I was like, 171 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,320 well, that's too good to be true because they say they take insurance, 172 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,639 but then you know, our deductible is so high that they're going to 173 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,399 be like, well, yeah you can. It takes insurance, but once 174 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,360 you reach your thirteen thousand dollars deductible, we're happy to like pay eighty percent. 175 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Yeah. I'm like, well that's never gonna happen, okay, But 176 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,639 I called this place. I was fully cynical. I was like, I 177 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,919 don't know my doctor. My daughter's doctor said that you guys take insurance, 178 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,320 and they're like, yeah, we do. Then they had this psychologist call 179 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:24,200 me, ask me all these questions about Sadie, which I answered, and 180 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,720 she was like, yeah, she seems like a really good candidate for this. 181 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:31,000 And we would test for this and this and this and processing and sensory 182 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,840 processing and here's some things that mimic that can look like ADHD but that aren't, 183 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,320 but that she could also have ADHD and and I was like, all 184 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:43,159 right, but like, do you really take insurance And she's like, yeah, 185 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,080 we're in network for your insurance. Wow, But then I did. 186 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,759 I was like, okay, but say I put her through all this testing 187 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,120 and say you do come up with something, Say it's a sensory processing. 188 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:01,360 There's no medication for that. She's like, no, there isn't, but 189 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:07,759 there's but there are therapies, and it's better if you know what you're dealing 190 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,679 with, so you know what therapies to use, and also then you do 191 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,360 know not to treat it with ADHD meds. And also there are a lot 192 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,360 of accommodations that she could get at school, and I was like, but 193 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,600 she already gets some. Her school's very cool about that, like whatever she 194 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:26,679 needs, and she's like, yes, but they might not be the accommodations 195 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:33,120 that will actually help her, Like you might have accommodations of like she can 196 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,639 take longer to turn in an assignment, but what she really might need is 197 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:41,320 her to get the notes. It might be too hard for her to take 198 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,440 notes if she's having a delay, like the information comes in and she can't 199 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:52,519 write down the notes quick enough. She might need and that is provided for 200 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:54,679 in accommodations. A lot of kids have that, but you might not know 201 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,000 you need that unless you me. And I was like, oh, in 202 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:01,440 my mind, I'm like, okay, but it's still better be free, 203 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:07,559 you know. And then I called my insurance company and basically it is really 204 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:13,519 fifty dollars deductible cope for all of it. Well, I got to get 205 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:15,480 the name of this place. Yes, I will give it to you. 206 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:18,679 Yeah, that's crazy. In fact, I'll just tell you if you're in 207 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,600 if you're in La in the valley, it's called it's called hold on a 208 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:30,440 second, it's is good information. Yeah, it's called Diagnostic and Counseling Center. 209 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:35,200 That's literally what it's called if you google it, diagnostic and Counseling Center. 210 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,919 And I've told a bunch of my friends and they're like Jesus Christ, 211 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,600 where was that place? Right when I was trying when I put my kids 212 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:46,159 through testing, right, I mean, you know, I'm just trying. 213 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,720 I'm trying to get Sunny in Italia set up for college, like so that 214 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,720 they can you know, Italia just send me an email this morning that she 215 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:54,799 talked to her accounselor at school. There's some email that's going to be coming 216 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,399 to me about getting the IEP for Santa Barbara, so that she it's you 217 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,159 know, set up for that saying for Sonny. So but you're right, 218 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,519 maybe they need different types of accommodations, like right, because they were tested 219 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:11,840 at school, but you know, nobody really knows, like yeah, maybe 220 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:17,679 they got ADHD no not an official for Sonny, yeah, you know whatever. 221 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,559 And it's like so they there does need to be a I would think 222 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,799 full more you know, in depth testing and really get a good assessment of 223 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,960 what we're dealing with. Like they say, knowledge is power. Yeah, 224 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,919 And they have several people. I think they have like different specialties at this 225 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:40,279 place. So it's not like I think at school, like one psychologist does 226 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,159 all the testing, right, and it's like, m I don't. I 227 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,799 just don't know if they have the capacity because they have so many kids they 228 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:51,360 have to test right to do what like a place that's all they do, 229 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:53,080 right, Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. I know. I'm kind 230 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,759 of excited. And then Hurt. Sadie's doctor was like the only problem is 231 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:02,600 they take insurance. But because of that, they're really busy and there could 232 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:07,039 be like you might have to wait months for it, but guess what, 233 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,079 No, they have opening like early next month. Wow. Yeah for both. 234 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:15,599 It's like two sessions of testing. It's an intake that it's just just 235 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,960 John and I hop on a zoom and do that for an hour. Then 236 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,039 the testing that involves her is two days, two hours a day, and 237 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:27,319 then there's a session where they tell us the results. That's great, make 238 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,720 their recommendations. Wow. Yeah, well I love that. I know I 239 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:34,240 might have to get a hold of them. I was. It was like 240 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:38,119 really good news. I was super excited. It's nice because I was so 241 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,160 cynical about it. I told John, and then I was getting kind of 242 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,160 mad because I'm like, yeah, this is just a racket and I end 243 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,920 up paying thousands of dollars just to find out she doesn't have fucking ADHD. 244 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,319 And I was like, oh, we just don't. I mean it's crazy, 245 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,880 it's crazy. 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I was like, how come we're not talking about this? 292 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,319 This is crazy, this is right up our alley. I know we 293 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440 should have been talking about this when it first came out, right, and 294 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:26,319 I kept forgetting about it. But then I'm but then, like I've been 295 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,279 going on YouTube a lot, watching like court cases. It all started with 296 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,160 the Crumbly trial, but now I'm like looking at all this other stuff. 297 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:41,359 But Ruby Frankie's, you know, like her arraignment hearing. Also when they 298 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:49,240 her and that other wreck Jody Ough, she disgusts me. They both pled 299 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:52,240 not guilty. I mean they both pled guilty, right, so there was 300 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:56,599 no trial. She's trying to be like this hero that's like, well, 301 00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,599 I pled guilty because I don't want to put my kids through a trial. 302 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,279 Really, you don't want to put your kids through something. So for anybody 303 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:06,119 that doesn't know, do you know about this, Caitlin No, I just 304 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,599 googled it real quick, so I saw some headlines, but I don't really 305 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,519 know. So they it's this vlogger. Yeah, she was a vlogger, 306 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:18,920 Ruby Frankie, who had a vlog called eight Passenger. Yea right, yeah, 307 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240 so she had all these she has all these kids. She's Mormon. 308 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:26,160 She was a mommy blog blog vlogger, mommy vlogger. Yeah, so the 309 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:33,000 thing who it turns out has mental illness. Yeah, but got all these 310 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,960 followers. She's super cute. Yes, she looks just like a Mormon suburban 311 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,559 housewife mom six kids, I think they yeah, right, because so mom 312 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:47,799 and dad that is eight mm okay. And she had like the traditional Mormon 313 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000 values to like housewife and you know, and and people. She you know, 314 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,240 had millions of followers at one point she's make it a ton of money. 315 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,160 But the thing that really fucks these Mormons fox or shut up, yeah, 316 00:23:02,319 --> 00:23:07,119 is they they they write everything down, like stop journaling everything. You 317 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,599 know. It was cold too. The Susan you know, the guy that 318 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,079 killed his wife and the kids, you know, not the kids, killed 319 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:19,000 his wife and then ended up burning the house down with the kids. Yes, 320 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,079 yeah, Susan whatever her name, Yeah, we know that case. 321 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:29,519 I have my forgetting her name. Susan Powell Powell, right, the Powells. 322 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,319 God, my man, there, that's right, they were Mormon too, 323 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,359 So a lot of these cases that you hear about on the dateline and 324 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,079 the forty eight hours, like these people be writing down what they're doing. 325 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,599 They're journaling. Both ways, it's bad because it's bad for the guy if 326 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,680 the woman is writing down like yeah, I think my husband might try to 327 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:51,400 kill me if I end up dead, right, And then it's also bad 328 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,119 for the people that are doing bad ship that are writing down like yeah, 329 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,119 I think I might want to kill my wife, right. You know. 330 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,960 But so this woman Ruby was doing that but also documenting her disciplining her children, 331 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,519 and at the at the beginning, I think thought it was sort of 332 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,759 funny. Oh yeah, yeah, like she would say, like, you 333 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,680 know, he didn't clean his room or something, so he didn't get dinner 334 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,200 last night. Right. It started like very innocuous, a little bit of 335 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:23,359 here and there like oh you people were like right, or his great because 336 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,720 like like her five year old, like the school calls and says, you 337 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,359 know, she doesn't have a lunch. She forgot her lunch. Well, 338 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,640 too bad, she forgot her lunch, which yeah, well she was supposed 339 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,599 to make her lunch for herself, so you know, and then was like 340 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,200 nobody give her food. Right, She was like, don't let anybody share 341 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,400 their food with her, which that made the that kind of pricked up school's 342 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,799 ears a little bit. Like people started to be like and I think that 343 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,319 they had child Protective Services called on them a few times, yes, before 344 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,359 anything happened. And she was married to this guy who was a typical Mormon. 345 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:04,279 I don't know dude, husband, but I guess. Oh. Also, 346 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,000 while she was doing her vlogging, she did start saying like things like, 347 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,039 you know, her son didn't get a bedroom. He didn't have a 348 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:15,240 bed to sleep in for the last nine months, he's been sleeping on the 349 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,480 floor whatever. But they would all laugh about it. They would laugh about 350 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:21,079 it, like and he even the kid would even be like, yeah, 351 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,039 I had to sleep on a bean bag for a year, right, But 352 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:30,599 people watching her show were like mortified and like concerned and doing welfare checks on 353 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,039 this family. But then I guess the husband and wife started having issues. 354 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,519 Well okay, so yeah, so the wife found that the husband had like 355 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,960 looked at porn, right, which this led to a discussion with me and 356 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,039 my friend the other day, like it wasn't and she convinced him that he 357 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,400 had a porn problem, as he looked at porn just because he looked at 358 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,279 it. So then she had this woman Jody, her friend who's like a 359 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:06,160 who's really fucking crazy nuts nuts, who's like became their counselor and was like, 360 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,200 yeah, he's got a porn addiction. Kick him out of the house. 361 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,839 He's out dangerous, right, She's having mental Ruby's having mental issues. 362 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,039 The woman Jody is is like mentally ill. So they get rid of it. 363 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,640 They convince him that he's like a danger to be in the house, 364 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,599 and they sent they get rid of him, get rid of him, and 365 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:29,000 he doesn't see the kids for a year, right, and she moves in 366 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:33,839 with this. Ruby moves in with Jody. They lived together, they did, 367 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,440 or did the kids because I thought the kids were sometimes over at Jody's 368 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,839 house. I think that they were living together, right, because when they 369 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:47,720 raided that they raided Hildebrand's house and Ruby had a bedroom and that's where they 370 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:52,200 found her journal where she was living that she was living there. Yeah. 371 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,839 I watched his interview of his his interrogation interview the husband. Yeah, and 372 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,720 he moved out and she, well, she moved in with them. At 373 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,799 first, she was living with the two of them and their kids in this 374 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,720 house, and then she convinced him that he's the problem. He needs to 375 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:14,519 move out. So now it's her and Ruby and the two teens. There's 376 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,640 also two older teenagers that are still underage, but they're teenagers. They were 377 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,839 not at the house the day they got raided. And then there's also the 378 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,799 older one who was in college, yes, who who had also called the 379 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,799 police. She kept she freaking called the police, not just child Protective Services, 380 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,839 but she was like, somebody needs to go check out on these because 381 00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:36,400 they're apparently not getting food. Right. So they had the two older kids 382 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720 guy, the boy and a girl off to college. Then they had teenagers 383 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,599 that were at somebody else's house because they got picked up that day to, 384 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,680 by the way, go clean somebody's house. That was why they were at 385 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,240 this lady's house. She's like, I just picked them up and I know 386 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,680 them, and I'm having company come and they said that her mom said that, 387 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,039 yeah, they can come clean my house. So I picked them up 388 00:27:56,039 --> 00:28:00,440 from camp or whatever wherever they were, and so they were at this woman's 389 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,079 house and they also went to that house and raided that house and like put 390 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,240 that woman in a police car, but turned out that she had nothing. 391 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,920 She didn't know what was going on anyway, back at the compound where they 392 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,839 you know this, And again she's starting to make a ton of money. 393 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:22,279 She's got like millions of followers and they and they do all these like celebrations 394 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,519 every time they get more followers. She's starts to get like obsessed with the 395 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,160 fame of it all. And we're going to get more and more followers and 396 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:30,759 like, oh my god, we're going to have a party because we have 397 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:37,240 this many followers. Yes, and people should be following the the the teachings 398 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,480 of Jody Hildebrand, like this is how you're supposed to raise kids. They 399 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,599 should be you know, disciplined in this way. And so she was, 400 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,799 you know, she was just like now being like it was like a little 401 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,279 bit of a cult with Jody, and she was just it was just Ruby 402 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:57,519 following Jody's you know, uh, you know philosophy on how to raise kids, 403 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,519 right, which was crazy. And she also quit her eight Passengers show 404 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:10,160 and she started just doing a show on YouTube with her and Jody called something 405 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,880 Yeah, and Jody, I don't know if we mentioned this, Jody's like 406 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,720 a therapist. Yeah, she's a license. JODI's doing couples counseling for them 407 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,319 and doing counseling for other people. I don't know if she eventually quit and 408 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,359 only was with Ruby. I'm guessing there's a reason, because I'm Ruby was 409 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,599 making a ton of money, and I think she saw, oh, I 410 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,759 could make a lot of money off of Ruby. She already started this. 411 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,720 She's got this platform, right, so let me get in on this. 412 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,720 She is like a cult leader because she convinced the husband who apparently did not 413 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,759 have a porn problem, he just looked at porn, right, which find 414 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,759 me, find me a guy who's never who doesn't look at porn, right, 415 00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,960 Galen. Not that I even want to meet that guy, because that 416 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,519 guy sounds that healthy, But I'm just saying, Kay, I don't think 417 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,039 every guy looks at porn. Yeah, I'm not saying they're they're not going 418 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,480 and dating the porn start, right, that's they like something like if you 419 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:08,000 even watched porn for ten seconds, right, you have an addiction? Right, 420 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,240 Yeah, there's something very very wrong with you and you're dangerous and you 421 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,200 can't be your own kids. Right. And he believed it, Yes, 422 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 and he was you know, trying to work on himself, right and trying 423 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,920 to work on getting back together his wife, but yet hasn't seen the kids 424 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,960 or his wife in a year, right, so he's off. So now 425 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,759 it's just these two nut jobs in charge of these little kids, especially the 426 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:38,039 two young ones who are apparently starved, malnourished. Well. So, yeah, 427 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,759 so things took a dark turn, yea at some point, darker turn, 428 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,279 right, because they'd been complained about the older daughter had called the police 429 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,160 before, but nothing had been done about it because they just didn't have proof. 430 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,799 I had no proof. So while during that last portion, they started 431 00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:04,119 like actually horribly abusing the kids, like because I think Ruby got very mentally 432 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,119 ill, because did you read some of the stuff where she was basically saying 433 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720 that her kid was a demon? Yes, and she was trying to get 434 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,799 the demon out of her, right. She thought our kids were like possessed, 435 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,759 right, right, and then she was starving them, keeping them locked 436 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,240 in a room in handcuffs. Yeah, I mean it was and she thought 437 00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:25,839 starving there was a witch hunt against her, the devil was after her or 438 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,559 it was something like that. And then even Jody Hildebrand said in one of 439 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:36,839 her prison phone calls like well, like comparing herself to like a disciple, 440 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,799 like well, I guess that's what happens, like yeah, I get arrested 441 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,960 and put in jail at you know, she's Jesus, yes, like I'm 442 00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,599 this is what this is how Jesus was, and this is my journey, 443 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:49,599 right, you know, sacrifice myself right to make sure that these kids get 444 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,799 free from the demon. Right. Oh yeah, So so Ruby thinks her 445 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,599 kids are possessed, possessed. She's horribly abusing them. She's getting no food 446 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,160 and no water, no, and then she even like she makes them spit 447 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,039 water out of their mouth, like if the member when the kid was brushing 448 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,759 my teeth and then she was like spit out the water, spit out the 449 00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,039 water. She wouldn't let them, right, So she was trying and she 450 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,839 was trying to kill them. There were yes watching them in the shower, 451 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:20,799 making sure that they wouldn't drink the water from the shower. Huh. I 452 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:29,079 mean, just mental insane crazy. So somehow too, I mean, somehow, 453 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,799 this little boy, the little boy gets out. He's a younger one. 454 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:36,839 I think the girl's twelve, and he's like yeah, I think nine. 455 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,279 Yeah, it's the other way around. I think, well, maybe 456 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:44,799 he might have been twelve. Yeah, he's twelve. So somehow he gets 457 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,240 out of the handcuffs, I believe, and I think because he was when 458 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,880 he was bound, he had tape on him. He was taped up, 459 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,319 yes, but he was so emaciated that I think he pulled his arm out 460 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960 of the handcuff. But yeah, he got out of the handcuffs. He 461 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,039 gets out of his house. He goes to a hot on hot dam. 462 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,559 He just says, he knocks at the door. He knocks at one door. 463 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,519 They have him on video surveillance. He knocks at one door and nobody 464 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:13,200 comes to the door. Then he goes to another house and he knocks at 465 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,839 the door, and this man comes out and he's like, can I help 466 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,400 you, son? And he's like can I help you son? And he's 467 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,200 like, I need you to do me two favors. One call the police. 468 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:30,200 He goes actually, just just I know, he's not so funny. 469 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:37,920 I'm so cute. Oh my god, here breaking. Then did you hear 470 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,400 this this part right where the guy is like holy shit. He he brings 471 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,480 them in. He's like, okay, come and tell me you have a 472 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,599 seat down. Tell me, what's going on? And then the kid tells 473 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,000 him I haven't eating or whatever, and he's like freaks out. The guy's 474 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,880 like calls the police. He's like, I've got this little boy here. 475 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,799 He's got tape hanging on him, he's emaciated. He says he hasn't had 476 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:04,279 any food or water. I need the police, right, you know, 477 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,920 you guys need to come, like h and he started crying. He started 478 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,360 crying. I know, I know. He was like, this kid needs 479 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,719 help bad. I don't know what's going on. I could not imagine. 480 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,679 And then uh, and then his wife comes out and you could see her 481 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,639 like on the ring camera. She's like feeding him and giving him water and 482 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:30,599 he's drinking and you know, and then the paramedics show up and they're like 483 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,880 brought to tears, like they're disgusted. One one of the women like she's 484 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,079 like, I'm about to cry like when she saw the kid. I mean, 485 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:45,800 because not only did he have duct tape around his ankles and wrists, 486 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,920 he had like saran wrap that was rubbing on his skin. You could see 487 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,440 it. It was like just it was all scabbed and bloody and whatever. 488 00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:01,199 It was just horrible, horrible and at one point this kid was outside, 489 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,239 had made to sit and sleep outside for days in one hundred and ten to 490 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,679 twenty degree heat. Yep, it was really really hot. This was in 491 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,679 August, by the way, when he escaped and he wrote a message in 492 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,000 rocks. Did you see that? It said he made a message with little 493 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:27,079 rocks that said something like going to jail. He was telling them like I'm 494 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,360 going to go to jail because they were telling him that he was a criminal. 495 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,000 He's going to go to jail, like they were brainwashing him. So 496 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,159 he's like, I'm just going to jail now, I'll call you later something 497 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,920 like that. He said, like going to jail now, call you later, 498 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,920 basically like I know you've been saying I'm going to jail or I'm like 499 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,280 a criminal. Well I'm just going to go take care of that now and 500 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,360 turn myself in. Yeah, He's probably like that would be a paradise, 501 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,199 yes, yes, like something wait to get to jail. Like he was 502 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:58,000 thirsty and hungry. He was trying to get food and water. So meanwhile, 503 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,239 when the police are now with the kid, he's like I got siblings, 504 00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:06,440 yes, and then they're like oh no, right, so then they 505 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,519 go to the house and what like, nobody answers the door. Now then 506 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:14,519 she's there, so Jody Hildebrand answers the door, which she's got like two 507 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,760 phones in her hand. By the way, she knows what's going on because 508 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,360 she sees paramedics. She can't find the boy. He's missing. He escaped 509 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,840 right now. She's just got the little girl there, and I guess she 510 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,000 takes all the shackles off the girl and puts her in a closet and just 511 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,559 tells her to sit there. And the girl's just sitting there. So then 512 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,760 she sees there's there's a helicopter, there's ambulances, there's fire trucks, and 513 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,400 she knows the kid's gone and went to the neighbors and they're probably gonna be 514 00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,920 knocking on her door any minute. She's got two phones in her hand and 515 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,679 she's on with her lawyer and they're like open up, police, open up, 516 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,239 and she opens up and she goes like, what I got I got 517 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,639 my lawyer on the phone yet, and they're like step outside, step outside, 518 00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,760 like and then she does the the line that we love from the other 519 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,239 nut job Blonde that I can't think of her name, Broderic but no, 520 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,440 she does the whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa Pam Smart, Pam Yeah, 521 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:15,119 no, Pam whatever, Pam Smart. I think it's the Pam Smart's the 522 00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:20,199 other one that uh yeah, the one that on dateline that that and what's 523 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,639 her name? Did it? The actually oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 524 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,719 yehoa yeah, well she does the whoa whoa because they're like step outside, 525 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,679 and they like pull her outside and she's like, I'm out with my lawyer. 526 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,559 Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. It's like good bitch, good 527 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,679 or good her, you know, like pull her out by our hair. 528 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,679 Uh so, yeah, she comes out. And then I just I watched 529 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:47,400 the I went online and watched the surveyor not the guy the cops camera on, 530 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,960 you know, while she's standing and she's just basically on the phone with 531 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,519 her lawyer and just standing out there, and and the lawyers like, what's 532 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:58,719 going on now? She goes nothing, they're raiding the house. And every 533 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,199 time he would talk, she goes, I'm standing with a cop right now, 534 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,360 just so you know, I'm standing with a police officer. He's like, 535 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,320 okay, well, don't say anything. Just wait until they're done. 536 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,519 She goes, Okay, I'm waiting. She's just on the phone for forty 537 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,480 five minutes, dead silence most of the time. How okay with your lawyer. 538 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:17,519 Let's take a quick break. Yeah, okay, we're back. Question 539 00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:23,400 about you're a lawyer, which you are? Yes, Yes, I didn't 540 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,079 go to law school. Oh you don't have to. Apparently I watch a 541 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,320 lot of crime docs, as do I. Uh, you're a lawyer. 542 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,280 You've got this client who's massively abusing their kid. Like, how do you 543 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,480 how do you just go okay, don't say anything like I'm gonna protect you. 544 00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:44,679 We're going to get you out of this. Like your whole job is 545 00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:50,360 to get people out of heinous I don't know crimes. Yeah, I and 546 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,000 I don't think you're Are you allowed to be like, I'm not going to 547 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,880 represent you. That's disgusting. I don't think you can, right, because 548 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,360 everybody's entitled to a defense. Well, then at that point she got to 549 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,719 get a public defender if if her lawyer doesn't want to. So she's paying 550 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,159 big bucks to have this guy on retainer for forty five minutes, just sitting 551 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,639 there going what's going on now? Well, they're still raiding the house. 552 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,719 Okay, because think about it this way. She had to have already had 553 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,920 a lawyer. So this woman knows she's up to no good. That's right. 554 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,159 I think you're going to go sideways for her, right, Yes, 555 00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,679 regular people don't just have a lawyer. Exactly. I don't have a lawyer. 556 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,760 I'm not expecting that any day I'm going to get raided. I'm not 557 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,360 thinking about, like, you know, defense, we don't have one that's 558 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,119 like going to pick up the phone, like I'd have to really think. 559 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,639 I'd have to call you and be like, is there anyway could I get 560 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,199 Mark Geragos's email address? And then you'd be like, well, I haven't 561 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,840 talked to him in a while. I am busy, has several podcasts, 562 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,880 And I'd be like, all right, well do you know fairly right? 563 00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,159 Then I'd have to email them wait for somebody to email me back, and 564 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480 I kind of need this is sort of an emergency. My house is being 565 00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,559 raided. See ambulances out there coming for me, right, Yeah, I 566 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:04,119 wouldn't have somebody that would be like, oh, it's Stephanie Wilder Taylor calling 567 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,559 to answer this. Yeah, And he changed his flight. He was like 568 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,159 she's like, did you get your flight change? You're so you're coming right? 569 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,960 Yeah? Yeah, you like switched his travel he's on his way. 570 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,760 Imagine, I don't know, I know, so you obviously know you're up 571 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,840 to no good, right you know? Yes, come on, like busted 572 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,239 right there? Yes? Yeah, and that should be enough. You should 573 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,559 be able to take that to a jury. This bitch had a lawyer that 574 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,159 was able to change his flight just because the police were at her door. 575 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,440 Yet, like she was expecting it, right, she knew she had two 576 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,559 phones in her hands. She was They were almost killing these kids. There 577 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:43,119 was some one of the detectives that I listened to on whatever the forty eight 578 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:45,519 hours or whatever, was saying, I have no doubt in my mind that 579 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:49,559 if they hadn't been stopped, the kids would have died. Oh yeah, 580 00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,000 that's what where? Oh yeah I saw him say yes, yes, yes, 581 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,079 Because they said in like her journal or something, that they were going 582 00:40:55,159 --> 00:41:01,119 to drive. Their plan was to drive to California or somewhere in the desert 583 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,320 and just drop these kids off in the desert. Yeah, that's what one 584 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480 of the that's what was her plan. Okay, But here's another thing that 585 00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:13,480 I don't understand, like as if the whole thing isn't crazy enough, I 586 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,800 don't understand how you have a vlog like there are you have a million followers? 587 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,960 Isn't anybody like where are these kids? Like she's basically I think shaved 588 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,239 the head. Oh that girl? Yes, so like you know, it 589 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,119 was it was like they were dehumanizing, right right, So they were taking 590 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:35,320 away anything about They took away her hair and they just dressed her and like 591 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:40,559 I don't know, they took away her clothes. So so if you have 592 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:45,599 a vlog and your kids are no longer on it, right or like you 593 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,760 can't show them ever, aren't people going to be like where were you? 594 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880 Where are the daughter and son? Right? Like your whole thing? Oh 595 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,039 maybe because they'd stopped, they say, not only doing her and Jody right 596 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000 right right right right yeah? And your friend Jody's like, how did I 597 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,039 get hurt? I know? Yeah, I don't know. It's a crazy 598 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,960 story. So what's happening now? What's the update? Because you've been watching 599 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:15,159 the YouTube so right now? I mean they both pled guilty and the one 600 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:21,119 thing that somebody pointed out was when sentenced, yeah they did they get okay, 601 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,639 So Ruby went at her, you know, sentencing, she like took 602 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:30,480 responsibility. I think after having space away from Jody, She's starting to see, 603 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,599 wow, I was under the influence of somebody that was a nut job, 604 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:37,119 and I was buying into it, and I can't believe I did this 605 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:42,559 to my kids. So she took real, like full responsibility on herself, 606 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,519 right, full responsibility. Well, a lot of their like she did say, 607 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,000 like, I can't believe I did this. Those are my she said. 608 00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:52,199 Like then she's like, but they think. I hope they go and 609 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,000 have a great life. Yeah, And then she's like I was they were 610 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:58,639 my ducklings, and I was their mama duck that's supposed to waddle them to 611 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,800 safety. This is what she saying, Like, give me a break. 612 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,960 She was already a narcissist. Oh absolute. I mean one of her first 613 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:09,400 thing on the phone with her husband, the first question was is it in 614 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,280 the news? Are we in the news? You know? And he's like, 615 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,360 I think there's at least of your worries right now. Yeah, you're 616 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,480 probably I'm not in the news, but you are like like just nars, 617 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:24,519 total narcissist. But then Jodie did not take responsibility. She was just like, 618 00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,320 you know, then she eventually did when she realized that she's going to 619 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,920 jail, right, well, she did, she pled guilty, But the 620 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:37,320 way they somebody pointed out the differences in their speeches, like she apologized, 621 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,679 She's like, I love these kids. I don't want to ever hurt them. 622 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,440 But she never said it was because of me. You know, she 623 00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:49,239 never said I did this, you know, I damaged these kids or whatever, 624 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,159 like she didn't take any responsibility where Ruby I guess took some responsibility or 625 00:43:53,159 --> 00:44:00,400 whatever. They're both fucking horrible, horrible people like just and I don't know 626 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,639 how long they're going to jail for, but well I I remember that they 627 00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:10,639 got like a life sentence, but then they all but then it was like, 628 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,880 but you have you have the possibility of parole after like like a crazy 629 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,760 short amount of time. Really yes, but you're going to be up for 630 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,079 parole in like ten years. Yeah. For Ruby, I think that Jody 631 00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:28,280 got a harsher sentence. I think so, but she's still the one roll 632 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,480 after a certain like it's like it's oh, I think it was like, 633 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,039 you're going to jail for the rest of your natural life, but you have 634 00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,440 the opportunity for parole to ten years. It was something where people were like, 635 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,960 dude, so she's going to get out of jail, and of course 636 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,719 immediately want to see your kids, right, and they're going to be so 637 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,360 screwed up from that. Yeah, hopefully that And I think the kids, 638 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:52,639 the guy, the dad's trying working on getting them their custody back. He 639 00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:55,400 doesn't have custody there and foster, but he's working on it. That's the 640 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,960 That's what of the younger kids, of the two younger kids, Okay, 641 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,360 when they also have the two teens that are still under age. But they 642 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,480 looked I saw that video. They looked pretty normal. They didn't look like 643 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,679 they were starving. They looked, but they didn't speak. Well, maybe 644 00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,719 they missed the you know, the last year or so of her real descent 645 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,280 into mental illness. Maybe they sort of escaped that. But weren't they worried 646 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,760 about their younger siblings. Didn't they know what was going on? I don't 647 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:30,159 know. It's it's un it's unclear if anybody knows. Yeah, it's a 648 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,679 really I mean, it's a sad case. It's just it's amazing that we 649 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,079 never talked about it. I feel like, there were a few times that 650 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,039 I meant too that I was like, we should talk about this too, 651 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,559 and then we didn't. We just but it's better that we did now because 652 00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:46,440 it's result. Otherwise we would have been like, and then what happened? 653 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:49,719 And then how many kids? Does she? Yeah, we would have been 654 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,000 all over the place. Well, it reminds me of that other story of 655 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,840 like those the two moms, the lesbian moms who had all those kids and 656 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,480 then drove off a cliff. Remember the heart Heart I think was the hard 657 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,840 HRTs. Yeah, I mean that was a crazy story. Those kids were 658 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,440 kind of being abused and then they were and then the moms just ended all. 659 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,400 I mean, that's just a documentble yeah. Yeah, yeah, Well 660 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,719 there was a podcast about it, but it wasn't It wasn't great. It 661 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,039 didn't really tell you that much more information, right, there's a documentary though, 662 00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,000 Yeah, there is. It's like broken Hearts or something like that. 663 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,760 Something Hearts. 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