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Now it's time for the conclusion of
this week's Yours Truly Johnny Dollar Cereal

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The Nick Sharan Matter from December twenty
first, twenty second, and twenty third,

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nineteen fifty five. From Hollywood.
It's time now for Johnny Dollar damn

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marking here. I was up the
street with listening Sheriff. They've traced Kathy

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O'Dare here to you A nice little
town of Branbury, Oh, Nick Shuran's

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boys. One of them, a
trigger man named Benny Stark, came out

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to the sawmill hell a few minutes
ago. I traded a couple of show

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with him, but he got away
in a car. Did he head north

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or back toward town? Toward town? I think you can't see the turnoff

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from here. All right, Dollar, you're packing a gun. Will you

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take a pickup truck and black bet
turn off? Hold it until I can

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get somebody out there to relieve it. Right, how many deputies you got?

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Deputies? Oh? What about volunteers? Is this Benny Stark, the

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man Kathy's afrido, he's one of
them? Then I'll have volunteers, twenty

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men within a half hour, armed
with deer rifles, and every one of

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them a dead shot. Good Night
and every weekday Night. Bob Bailey,

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in the Transcribed Adventures of the Man
with the Action Packed Expenser gout America's Fabulous

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Freelance insurance investigator, Heirs Truly Johnny
Dollar. From Special Investigator Johnny Dollar,

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location Branburry, Michigan to the home
office Primutual Insurance Limit at Hartford, Connecticut.

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Assignment. The Nick arn Matter expense
account continued. Itam eight three dollars

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sixty cents for two packs of cigarettes
and a pint of applejack borrowed from the

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foreman's locker at the sawmill. I
figured these as standard equipment for holding down

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a roadblock at ten degrees above zero, and Mike O. Dare agreed with

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me one hundred percent. Oh,
I'll tell you one thing. They can

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make it out of corn RYE.
Piley, make it at a gold if

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they want to, but they'll never
come up with anything better than what they

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make out of apples. Yet here
have a short term john No, no

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thanks, I'll save it for later. Well, I'll just it's got the

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taste of Indian summer in it.
You ought to see this country around that

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time of year, Johnny, break
your heart. It's so beautiful. Well,

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it's beautiful now with the snow on, and there would be more so

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if there wasn't a killer running loose
in it. Johnny. I want to

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ask you something about my daughter,
and I want you to answer me honest,

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all right, it's no use training
to fool you. She's here,

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all right, I know, but
she hasn't pulled me. But it was

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it happened in New York, but
she ran away from it. Somehow,

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I figured it was just as well
not to ask. You're sure if Dan

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Martin said practically the same thing.
Den's been in love with Kathy since he

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was twelve years old. He's a
good man, so so I forged anyway,

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she was scared, scared half to
dick, and she'd come home for

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help, so we tried to help. What was it you wanted to ask

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me, mister Odare you mentioned a
murder case? Johnny? You didn't give

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any of the details, just said
that Kathy was her witness? Is is

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she mixed up in this murder?
And you wanted an honesstancing? All right?

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I'm not sure, you see.
That's why I wanted to talk to

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her, get her story, the
truth. I realized on the start she

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might be guilty. I don't think
so, but it's a possibility. You

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may as well know about it.
I guess you realized it wouldn't make any

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difference not to me or today.
Oh yeah, I figured. In other

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words, you're with me as long
as I'm trying to protect her, but

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you'll fight me if I find reason
to think she's guilty about it. Johnny.

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Well, at least we know where
we stand, and I hope it

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won't come. What's the matter a
car coming light on the trees there at

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the bend? Yeah, do you
suppose? Maybe? Probably not, but

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you can't tell. Better get behind
the truck just in case, and I'll

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have to shift in the load the
wedge past us. And if we get

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that spotlight on right, I guess
so just have another quick one. The

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wind cuts right through your bones.
It's a dark colored said Dan. It

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might be him, Fenny. I
had been hoping for two months. I

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kat he'd come home for Christmas,
and they didn't figure I'd be out here

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in the woods hiding behind a truck
waiting to shoot it out with somebody that

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wanted to kill. It's a crazy
world. Keep your head down a stilt.

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Yeah, just the driver by himself, wearing a dark cant Oh no,

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you know that kind of looks right. What's kid Perkins or wreck?

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No doubt about it. All right, shoot better wave him out past.

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He probably thinks we need help.
It's all right, dead, it's my

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good hair. Go ahead ahead,
We don't need anything. Eh, well,

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all right, thanks. Anyway.
You know there's one thing about people

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around here. They mind their own
business and don't ask no questions, and

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they don't answer them often either.
How's that applejack holding out? Two long

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hours went past. Only three cars
came out from the village, and each

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time a long moment of tension while
we waited to identify the occupants, But

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all of them were townspeople, and
he didn't show. One truck came down

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the logging road from the back hills, loaded with dwarf spruce and fir peace

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on earth, goodwill toward men.
We were waiting for an assassin. The

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truck only carried Christmas trees. The
night was crystal clear, with bright stars

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hanging low in the blackness, but
it kept turning colder and colder, and

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believe on the apple jack didn't help
much. And the wind too, changed

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gradually and blew fitful and gusty and
strange. It's kind of storm come a

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blizzard. Maybe not tonight, tomorrow
sometime or tomorrow night. I know this

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country, know the signs. There's
an odd feeling in the air, all

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right, there's an even order.
When in my leg log rolled over on

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it, putting it six years ago, bothers me some in the winter till

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that wears so right before the storm. And that's kind of a handy thing

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to have. Well, that's one
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Like one time when Kathy was little, when the more was still alive,

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cried rosterssoul. We had a big
measles epidemic here in Branberry, and

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every night Kathy used to add a
line to a prayer, kid say,

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and please let me catch the meat
so they can stay out of school like

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the other kids. Now she's wanted
as a witness in a murder case,

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and somebody's prowling out there in the
dark trying to find her and kill her.

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Little Kathy, who never harmed anybody
in her whole life. Some things

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just don't make sense, Johnny.
Some things never have. There was another

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time once when men like Benny were
prowling in the dark trying to find a

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little child and kill him, and
he hadn't harmed anybody either. That was

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nearly two thousand years ago. Yeah, sure it was. I like you,

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Johnny, Kathy, you'll like it
too. Live a jail, huh

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ah, there's a pair for that
kid. Looks more like a mother did

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at her aid. Another car coming
astrol there. Yeah, so there is,

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and this just might be the one. Maybe I wish that apple Jack

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hadn't run out, But it was
only a couple of men. Deputy Martin

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had sent out from town to relieve
us and take over. Big men,

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calm and quiet, wearing plaid mackinaws
and heavy laced boots and carrying Winchester ninety

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fours over their arms. They told
us Benny Stark had been seen. He'd

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come up from the west, driven
onto one of the roadblocks unexpectedly, and

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a flurry of shots he'd broken through. The men couldn't understand his persistence.

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They thought he'd run for it,
get out of the area once his presence

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was known. I didn't bother to
explain, to put him straight, but

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I knew Benny had never run,
not now. He was a trigger man,

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a professional killer with a reputation at
stake, and he had his orders

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to silence Kathy o'dair. A half
hour later, we were back in town,

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turning into the main street. Around
the village square. Strings of pilly

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lights and a tall pine in the
center of the square blinked and sparkled as

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they swayed in the wind. Around
one hundred cars and trucks were parked in

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the street and in the lot behind
the town hall, and the sound of

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singing drifted out from inside. They're
practicing carols and things for the big doings

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on Christmas Eve. He did beautiful. The man at the roadblock had given

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a description of Benny's car and the
license number. It was just barely possible.

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Good something in mind, Johnny.
Let's take a look through those park

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cards. I don't know. If
it was me, I sure wouldn't be

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hanging around here. I'd stick to
the tall timber. Yeah, you're not

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a city boy, and like tall
timorous foreign soil. To Benny, he's

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only comfortable when he's close to a
crowd. Either. Fellow that's supposed to

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have done that murder now is the
man he works for, a cafe on

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or ex gangster, a man named
Nick Shearn. Let's check that lot around

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at the side. I don't think
he'd show here in front. He'd be

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taking a big chance showing anywhere in
the town this size. People know each

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other. It's his job to take
chances, and he probably doesn't realize whatever's

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that's the dan against the building with
the side window broken shifting and cool.

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That's his card, Johnny. Yeah, I wait here. I eased my

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gun out of the holster and started
toward the car. There were no lights

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in the lot, only the soft
glow reflected from the packed snow on the

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foot, and the car itself stood
in the dark shadows next to the building.

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I couldn't see whether anyone was in
it or not. The singing seemed

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to swell louder as I approached.
I moved slowly, watching for any sudden

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movement. The car was empty.
It was time past time to talk to

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Kathy Adare, and, with a
pressure tightening, the danger close to home

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now, her father was ready to
take me to her. We drove over

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to Dan Martin's house, where it
turned out Kathy and my daughter was staying.

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Dan's mother had been looking after her. Dan was there when we arrived,

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busy on the phone. Yeah,
I know the carl right, the

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one Jed bought last spring down in
Bay City seven three? Where was it

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park? All right? Keep an
eye on Charlie. So on. Benny

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Stark had stole himself another car.
H took Jed Wharton station wagon we went

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for that was a better one.
He had Charlie says the steering gear was

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sprung. I guess it happened when
he crashed that roadblock. When it was

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Kathy and the young and oh fine, they were asleep upstairs. Mom's next

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door helping missus Barton stuff a turkey, Johnny, you figured it could wait

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two more. I'm sorry, mister, oh dear. I've got to talk

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to her tonight. All right,
I'll go wake her up, mister Dollar.

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No matter what she's done, don't
hurt her anymore than you have to.

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As far as I know at the
moment, Dan, all she's guilty

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of is withholding information, and most
people would have done the same thing.

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Nick Suran's a rough boy. At
a time, she was scared. That's

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all lost her head. She never
did belong in a city. She belongs

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right here in Branbury. This is
her kind of life. Why did she

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leave? Well, we argued one
day and she said she'd show me.

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So she ran off and married that
fellaw. He treated her bad, finally

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left her, but she was too
proud to come back. She wouldn't have

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come back now she hadn't have been
so scared. Well, maybe it'll work

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out now. She ought to stay
her kid ought to grow up here,

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learned the outdoors in the woods like
Kathy used to know it where she roamed

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through those hills like a young Indian. Knew every trail in that forest,

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every timber camp and trapper's cabin from
here to the ridge. I remember one

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time the two of us were up
toward what you said. You said,

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Kathy were sleep upstairs? That what
you said, Dan, Of course that's

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what I'm Mike. What's happened?
They're not up here, They're not up

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there anywhere else in the house there, God, Johnny Dollar might go there,

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Johnny any signed a Cathy. No, the boys of the highway turn

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off haven't seen her or Benny either
one. Not a soul out that way

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in the last hour. What about
there at this armon nothing, Mike,

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No fresh tracks on the logging road, no sign of her. And the

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worst thing is it's starting to snow
again here in town. Two. Dan

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Martin, just phone, no luck. She hasn't shown up at any of

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the roadblocks. She's she's around somewhere, and we've got to find her.

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We will, Mike, and it's
got to be fast. Johnny. There's

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a blizzard coming up, and that
gunman Benny's is a round two. Maybe

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he's already found her, maybe even
took her from the house Hard and Jiti

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both. Maybe she didn't get scared
and run. Maybe it was him.

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Maybe I stop at that kind of
thing. It's not gonna help anything.

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I don't know, but I've got
a half baked idea, and I may

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be right. Stay there at the
house. I'm coming back to pick you

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up. And one thing you can
do while you're waiting, what Johnny pray?

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From Special Investigator Johnny Dollar location,
Branbury, Michigan to the home office

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Tri Mutual Insurance Limited, Hartford,
Connecticut. Assignment the Nick Shuran matter,

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or more important, find Kathy O'Dare
itdem twelve on expense account four dollars and

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ninety cents. A tank full of
gas for the county pickup I'd borrow from

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Deputy Sheriff Dan Martin. The falling
snow was thickening now and the wind was

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rising and steadying in the northwest.
The night had all the makings of a

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blizzard, and wherever Kathy and her
daughter had gone, we had to find

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them before it hit. It was
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the side porch of the Adare house. Kathy's father came hurrying out to the

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truck, leaving the door open behind
him and butting his heavy mcinaws. He

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ran and he knew was my utter
king. All right, get in,

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shut the door. Hey, we'll
get a foot of snow before money with

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a zero win behind it. Now, listen, Mike, I think we

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can forget any idea that Benny found
her and got her out of the house.

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In that case, she wouldn't have
taken your car. He's already got

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one. I know I thought her
that, And he wouldn't have given her

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time to dress herself and jail the
way she did with heavy clothes and snow

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boots. And she wouldn't have taken
the rifle. And what has happened.

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She knew I'd be there to talk
to her sometime this evening. I think

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she lost a nerve, couldn't face
it, decided to run again. Maybe

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so, But where Johnny? That's
what I want you to tell me that

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Now. I don't mean you knew
what she was going to do and where

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she was going to go, or
how do you think I can tell you?

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Look, Kathy knew about the roadblocks, Stan Martin sat up to trap

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Benny Stock knew where they were,
so she didn't want to be seen.

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Then naturally she'd avoid She couldn't.
Not if she wanted to get away,

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take the highway to Flint to Detroit, she'd have to pass one of them

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at least. But she hasn't passed
any of them. So she's still in

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this area, and I don't think
she ever meant to leave it. But

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then then, Martin said, Cathy
used to spend a lot of time in

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the woods when she was growing up. He said, she knew every back

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trail in these hills, logging camps, trappers, cabins. She did.

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She used to worry that dickens out
to be the way she Yeah, Now

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where would she go, Mike,
if she wanted to hide out back in

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the hill somewhere? There's a lot
of places, Chippewa canyons, one here

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for timbercamps abandoned in the winter,
some cabins along it. No, No,

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she couldn't make it. There's a
roadblocked before you get to the turnout

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there. It's gotta be someplace she
could reach without being seen. There's workers

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flats, ah, but that's twelve
miles of foot trail. She wouldn't try

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it in this weather, not with
Gill along anyway. Then there's Lake Pine.

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No, it's over the other way, Pine Lake Rows that runs northwest

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of town. Not much better than
the wagon road. The DAN didn't put

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a block on it because it dead
ends at the lake about five miles out.

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What's out there? Nothing at the
lake, but you can go on

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up Pine Creek about four miles on
foot, and there's some cabins. Maybe

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you waste the time, Johnny,
let's get going expense account. It am

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thirteen six dollars and ninety cents one
dry cell electric lantern, an extra pair

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of batteries picked up at the Branberry
Hardware Company. And the way through town,

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the falling snow, driven by a
bitter cold wind, formed a dense

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curtain in front of our headlights,
and from the turnoff all the way up

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the narrow, twisting road to Pine
Lake, I had to keep the truck

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in second gear. There were car
tracts in the road, all right,

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several of them, but they were
covered now with a new blanket of snow,

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and it was impossible to tell whether
they'd been made earlier tonight or a

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week ago. The road ends a
couple of yards past this next turn,

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and we'll soon know. There's four
or five side turnoffs clearance where you can

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pack. We'll left to check out
of them. I guess all right,

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that draw there on the right,
that break there in the trees, that's

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that's where the Pine Creek trailer starts. I will swing in, Mike.

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I guess we won't have to check
those turn ups. Eh. Is that

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your car over there under the trees, Yeah, that's it. I left

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Mike waiting in the cab while I
went over to look inside the car.

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It was empty, abandoned, and
there was no note, no clue of

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any kind to tell where Kathy had
gone. I raised the hood and felt

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the motor block ice cold. The
car had been here for some time.

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I flashed the lantern on the ground
and followed the faint tracks made by two

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pairs of snowboats the end of the
deep draw that led back into the hills,

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the start of the Pine Creek trail. I snapped off the lantern and

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stumbled through the snow back to the
truck. But you, Praine, Johnny,

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it's them all right, They've headed
up the trail. I found tracks

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in the snow. Then we'd better
get started. Oh wait, I'll go

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after the Mic. You take the
truck, go into town. Fi and

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Dan Martin, bring help as fast
as you can. That storm is getting

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worse. No you don't. I
know there is starting up that trailer with

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a blizzard coming on. And if
you think you've got to protect me,

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but I said, I get off, Mike. There's no time, and

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you're wrong. I'm not protecting you. I'm protecting myself. What do you

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mean that bum leg of yours.
I don't want you on my hands too,

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along with the girls. All right, Johnny, I'll go after Dan

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and hurry Mike. I'm depending on
you. Yeah, good luck, Johnny,

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see you, Mike. I stood
there in the snow watching the headlights

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of the truck move away. Finally
they swung around the bend and disappeared,

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and I suddenly felt more alone than
I ever had in my life. I've

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gotten rid of Mike. Deliberately send
him away on purpose, because I hadn't

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told him everything. I could see
no point in tearing his heart out.

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There was another car parked on beyond
Kathy's, nearly hidden by the trees.

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Jed Wharton's station wagon, the car
that had been stolen by a killer named

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Benny Stark. It took me half
an hour to cover the first mile,

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and the storm kept getting worse.
The beam of the lantern penetrated a bare

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thirty feet ahead of me before it
was smothered out in the white blackness of

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the night. After a few hundred
yards, the tracks I was trying to

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follow and nearly disappeared snowbover were blotted
out. I gave up looking for them

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and struck to Old Mike's description of
the trail following the left bank of the

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frozen creek. The drifts were deeper
down along the creek bottoms, and the

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going was rougher, but I didn't
dare leave it to look for better footing.

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It was my only landmark. The
trail itself was buried. Any man

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who lost his way to night and
wandered off into one of those side gullies,

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but wanted us straight to his death. An hour past, then an

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hour and a half, or two
hours. Maybe I lost all track of

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time and distance. The wind cut
through my clothes, and the numbing pole

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crept into me deeper and deeper.
Gradually, the walking stumbling, breathing,

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even thinking became automatic, and without
feeling, the world itself seemed to narrow

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down to a tiny circle close around
me, and all beyond was chaos,

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blackness, and the roaring storm.
I tripped over fallen logs and floundered back

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to my feet, dropped my lantern
and recovered it, broke through the crested

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brists and struggled for footing, and
kept on moving in the weird nightmare of

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the blizzard. I could highly recognize
reality when I came face to face with

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it, and a beam from my
lantern touched him, crouching by a tree

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a few yards away. I could
barely accept him as being real. He'd

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been watching my light as I approached, waiting for me. It was Benny

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Stark, with his gun leveled and
named, don't be a fool of any

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drop that gun. A curtain of
snow swept between us, then blotting out

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the side of them, and I
was grateful. I turned and stumbled on

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into the storm, moving in pitch
darkness, now except for the ghostly glow

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from the snow covered ground. The
second shot had smashed my land, and

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I had nothing left to go by
but instinct and luck, and they weren't

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enough. Within fifteen minutes, I
was hopelessly lost. That's when I started

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hearing the music miles from no place
where there couldn't be any music except inside

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my head. The cold and fatigue
were finally doing their work. I knew

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the signs. The next step was
to start wandering in circles, smaller and

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smaller ones, and the last step
to drop it, Austin and go peacefully,

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to sleep, peacefully and permanently.
But the sound kept going louder,

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and I moved in the direction it
seemed to be coming from. It couldn't

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be just illusions. It had to
be real. Hello, Hello, there.

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Then suddenly, only a few yards
away, a brilliant blaze of light

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exploded from the darkness, and it
seemed that a golden haired girl was standing

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in the middle of it, And
for a moment my sanity tottered, who's

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out there? My golden vision was
wearing blue jeans and a flannel shirt and

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was holding a rifle. She looked
exactly like the photograph I'd seen of Kathy

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Adare, And the blaze of light
came from an open cabin door. Who

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is it? Speak up for our
shoe holdly, mistair, it's Johnny Dollar.

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Are you getting warm now? I
don't think I'll ever get warm again.

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You will if you don't move away
from stove a little the back.

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You're sure you're starting to smoke?
Yeah? I thought I was beginning to

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feel something. How's the firewood?
There's plenty. There's plenty of food and

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a radio. If I hadn't heard
that music, had a blunded right on

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past this cabin. We've got everything. You can hold out for a month

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if we have to, I hope
we have to. What about your daughter?

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Is she all right? Sure?
She's fine? The picnic for her

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a camping trip. She's fund asleep
back there, maly in too dreaming about

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Santa Claus. I suppose I wish
I could. How did you find news?

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To Dollar? Hunch? Guess work? I was born under a lucky

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story. I wasn't. Oh on
all, I think you've been pretty lucky

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considering everything, more so than your
landlady back in New York, missus Grobler,

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what do you mean? Pretty stark? Want to see her? Tried

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to find out where you were.
When she wouldn't tell him, he broke

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her arm. No oh, oh, it's a rough game, is so

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they're trying to play it cozy with
a mobster like Nick Sheran. You know,

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of course, that he sent Benny
here to find you. You'll have

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a hard time finding me in this
place. He did find you, what

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maybe he followed you from the house. I saw you drive through town anyway.

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I ran into him back down the
trailer ways. I thought that you're

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chooting a while ago. You did. He tried to ambush me. He

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thought he had the drop and he
wouldn't give up. I had to kill

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him. Johnny Dollar, Johnny Dollar, spill it. J O h n

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n y d O L l a
R. That's not right. You forgot

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to capitalize. You're right, honey. Let me hear you spout your name,

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okay, capital j I L L
jill, capital O apostrophe, apostrophe.

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I never can see that capital d
ari dare. Of course, my

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last name is actually something else I
forget, but my mother says I'm really

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an o' dare not the least out
about it. I could see it in

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my minna. I like you,
Johnny Dollar, and I kind of like

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you too, jell ol dare.
Do you think my mother's pretty I think

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she's lovely. Why don't you get
married to her so I can have a

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daddy. Well, that's well,
it's certainly something to think about and not

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a bad idea. Now I'll be
quiet before you wake her up. I'm

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already awaken. With a plot like
that being hatched, I think I better

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stay awake. Is there coffee,
Johnny? From Special Investigator Johnny Dollar.

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Location a small cabin in the timber
outside Branbury, Michigan, to the home

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office Trimutual Insurance Limited, Hartford,
Connecticut. Assignment the Nick Suran matter expense

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account final page item fifteen one million
dollars for a certain feeling. I realize,

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of course, that the amount of
this item is somewhat unusual. It

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may be cause for mild criticism by
your accounting department unless the accompanying report includes

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an adequate and detailed explanation. Therefore, to avoid unnecessary correspondence and delay,

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I am attaching said explanation herewith here's
your coffee, County. Say how long

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did I sleep, Johnny? Oh? A couple of hours. It's around

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four in the morning. Storm hasn't
let up at all, has it?

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Oh? It's worse, If anything, Jill, Honey, it's four o'clock

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morning and your eyes are just about
to fall out, and you go back

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there and go to sleep. Do
I have to move? You have to

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I long now, mister Johnny Dollar, and you were having a lot of

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fun till you woke. Well,
that's life, Seetie, night now,

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good night night. Proud of her. I'm crazy about her, that's what

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you mean. She's a great little
girl. She's the only thing I ever

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did in my whole life that turned
out right that bad. Huh, Johnny,

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it's no good. I know why
you're here, I know what you

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expect from and the answer is no, you're jumping the gun. I haven't

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asked you anything. You will,
You haven't done all this for nothing.

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You're going to ask me to come
back to New York and testify against Nick

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Shuran. I might ask you to
tell the truth. Is that just another

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way of wording. I didn't see
anything, hear anything. I don't know

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anything about it, and I have
nothing to say. So next Sharan gets

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away with another murder, I wouldn't
know anything about that, and sooner or

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later, of course he'll kill you
two. He sent Benny Stark out to

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do it and Benny missed. But
he's got other boys, or he might

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even handle the job himself. Why
by now he ought to know that.

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I'm not going to tell, but
there's always that chance you might change your

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mind. And Nick's a gambler,
but he likes the odds on his side.

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He doesn't take chances. Whenever he
can, he stacks a deck.

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I wish I could help you,
Johnny, but I don't know anything about

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it. I left before it happened. How long have you worked for Nick?

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Sharon known him two years. I'm
not wide eyed about him, Johnny.

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I've heard what he's been what he
may even still be a gangster,

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hoodlum, racketeer, but that's none
of my business. The club was legitimate.

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My job there was on the level, and he never got out of

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line once and now doubt. He's
always been kind to his mother and loves

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dogs and children. I wouldn't know
except children. He's crazy about them.

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He was always buying something for Jill. Ask him about it. And they

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also shot and kill Milk Priker.
I couldn't say, I see, well,

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you're letting a lot of people down, people here in Branbury that you

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grew up with people that love you, your father, Dan Martin. What

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880
have they got to do with it? You know, it's a great country

406
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,319
up here. I like to spend
more time in it. And it's a

407
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:26,079
big country, big and beautiful and
dangerous like that blizzard outside there. It's

408
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,680
not the kind of country that turns
out cowards. Cowards. Your father said

409
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,839
something yesterday that some people belong in
cities and some don't, and that you're

410
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,960
one of the second kind. He
was right. The city's made a coward

411
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,359
of you. You don't understand.
They know it, oh, Mike,

412
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,759
Dan, all of them. Of
course, they'll never mention it, but

413
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,640
you're letting them down, and they
know it, and you'll know it,

414
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Kathy. They don't have a daughter
to think of it. It's not her

415
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200
fear we're talking about. It's yours, all right, I'm scared. I

416
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:56,759
got reason to be. It's easy
for you to talk. You don't know

417
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,119
what fear is, what it can
do to you. I don't. It

418
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,759
can push you and drive you and
make you do things you hate yourself for,

419
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,200
and it can destroy How would you
know? How would any of them

420
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,400
know? Who haven't felt it,
who haven't been there. I can think

421
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,079
you are not alone. We've all
been there. It's not the fear that's

422
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:16,160
important, it's the courage you bring
up to fight it. I've tried,

423
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:21,279
I've I've nearly goten crazy trying to
think it out. But it always comes

424
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,440
back to one thing. Jill.
She is what counts. Nothing else matters.

425
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,599
And if you love her, teacher
to grow up without fear, sacrifice

426
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,480
anything. If you have to leave
in your life, but teach your courage,

427
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:40,160
there's nothing greater you could do for
Sorry, all right, Sorry,

428
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,200
I knew what was right, Johnny, I knew all time. Sure,

429
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:51,359
of course you did. All you
needed was a little push. I want

430
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:57,720
to tell me about it now.
I was to hear at the club that

431
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,640
night when it happened. I stayed
after closing. I had some presents for

432
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,839
Jill and I wanted to wrap them
before I took them home. Nick and

433
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,839
North Priker were upstairs in the office. Nick was there, Yes. I

434
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,920
could hear them arguing they didn't know
I'd stayed in. Then go on,

435
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,279
I heard Mel yell out. He
said no, Nick, No, And

436
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:21,839
then I heard the shots. Yes, I didn't even think. I ran

437
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
up to the office. Mel was
lying on the floor and Nick was standing

438
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,319
there with a gun. He told
me to get out and to keep quiet

439
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:32,960
if I wanted to keep on living, that's it. Yes, will you

440
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,240
make a statement to the police,
testify at the trial. Yes, I'm

441
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:44,200
going there. Will you help me, Johnny, Will you stand by me?

442
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,599
You know I will got too,
because I'm scared. I'll be scared

443
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,559
all the way. But I'll do
it if you will help me. I'll

444
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,839
help you. Kathy all away.
Why don't you curl up here and get

445
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:01,359
some sleep? Come on, maybe, no, I can't sleep. It's

446
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,840
going to be all right, thanks
Johnny giving me the push. Oh sure,

447
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:16,079
honey. You know something, Johnny, I'm with Jill. I like

448
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:23,039
you too. She went to sleep
with a face against my chest, and

449
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:27,599
after a while little Jill came tiptoeing
in and curled up on the other side,

450
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,719
and I sat there, holding them
both, thinking and waiting for the

451
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,199
dawn. So that's what I mean
about a million dollar feeling. True,

452
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,000
it wasn't my little girl or my
big girl either, but for the moment

453
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:47,960
at least, well, that item
still goes. I'll still tag that feeling

454
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,400
at one million dollars. And I
was sorry when the storm was over and

455
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,880
the rescue party came up from town. Because I felt I'd had one moment

456
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:12,320
in a lifetime that I'd never find
again, went went. The big event

457
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,280
of the year in Bramburry was the
Christmas Eve show in the town hall.

458
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,000
There was music and a pageant and
singing, and everybody took part in it,

459
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,400
from the youngest kid in town to
the toughest, old grizzled lumberjack from

460
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,639
the back hills. Jill was in
the children's car as and Old Mike was

461
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,800
to operate the spotlights, so they
went on ahead. I took Kathy,

462
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:31,119
and since she wasn't quite ready to
face people yet, we made a point

463
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:35,199
of getting there late. I didn't
care when we got there, as long

464
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,519
as I was with her. We
slipped in quietly and took seats at the

465
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:43,760
back of the room. The spring
group from the high school orchestra was playing,

466
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,400
and no one noticed us, not
even Old Mike, Kathy's father,

467
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,960
who was working in the spotlights.
I hope Jill Daggar actually hadn't had any

468
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,119
time to practice with him, or
she'll do all right. We'd been there

469
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,639
about ten minutes when somebody else came
in and slid into the one seat between

470
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,440
us and the door. I didn't
look around until I felt Canty stiffened beside.

471
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Now it was Nick shran. Nobody
gets excited now the s any sudden

472
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,599
moves. I just said, here
quietly. He slid his hand over the

473
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:15,079
feeling inside my coat under my arm. I'm backing Auna perfect. I'd left

474
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:16,880
my gun at Cathy's house. Old
Mike had been duious about it, but

475
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,599
with Benny dead, I'd seen no
reason to carry it. And after all,

476
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,320
it was Christmas Eve all no,
I was gonna ease out of you

477
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,639
know it, out, attract no
attention from any crazy and just don't forget

478
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,320
one thing now and that whole next
gun. I knew he seem right at

479
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,320
the mill of Cathy's back. Let's
go, no choice, Candy. Come

480
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:43,079
on. The back of the room
was dark, nobody paid any attention,

481
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:51,880
and somebody was always leaving or coming
back in. Come on, I got

482
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,280
a car over to side here,
Johnny, watch your dollar. We'll be

483
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,719
right back. Mike. Just gonna
get some there, all right, Johnny,

484
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,440
But don't go running out before I
give you your present. Huh here,

485
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,639
and don't uncork that until you're ready
for some serious business. All right,

486
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,760
I'll i'll thanks, Mike, thanks
a lot, don't mention it.

487
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:22,639
Good luck, Johnny. Come on, let's get away from here, Johnny,

488
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,639
Jill go back. You tell me
you're coming here, do you hear

489
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:36,599
me? Listen? Please take your
hands on your pocket and pick me up.

490
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Look, Jill, you run alone. Now, who's that Dan Martin?

491
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,320
He's a deputy sheriff and he's a
dead shot. Better do like she

492
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,559
says, Nick, take your hand
out of your pocket and pick her up.

493
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,119
All right, reach in my pocket, Johnny, take my gun.

494
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,800
Later, Kathy and I walked around
outside. We could still hear the children's

495
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:15,599
cars singing inside. Jill saved our
lives time. No, she saved Nick's

496
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:20,760
life. What do you mean that
present your father gave me up there at

497
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,400
the spotlights. He could see what
was happening, and he thought real fast

498
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,039
that present was a gun. I
had Nick covered from the time we stepped

499
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,440
off the porch. I'm glad he
didn't move. I'm glad it happened like

500
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:37,400
it did. Yeah, so,
my I thought we'd never see those stars

501
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,760
up there again. You kept holding
yourself, Kathy. You showed a lot

502
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,639
of courage. No, but maybe
I can learn to show it. I

503
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,800
was just thinking, Johnny, looking
at the stars up there, there was

504
00:38:52,840 --> 00:39:08,079
fear in the world then. Two
thousand years ago Key Head Courage expense account

505
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:13,559
Item sixteen two hundred and thirty dollars
and forty cents incidentals in Bramburry and transportation

506
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:17,320
for two adults and one child Branburry
to New York. Expense account total four

507
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,480
hundred and eighty six dollars and twenty
cents. End of account and of report

508
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:25,679
remarks, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas
to all of you from all of us

509
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:30,679
here on the program, and God
bless you, Yours truly, Johnny Dollar,

510
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:39,400
Yours Truly Johnny Dollar is starring Bob
Bailey, is transcribed in Hollywood,

511
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,920
written by Les Crutchfield, It is
produced and directed by Jack Johnstone. Heard

512
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,599
in this week's cast were Virginia,
Greg Peggy Weber, Don Diamond, Ben

513
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,840
Wright, Jack Prussian, Barney Phillips, Sam Edwards, and Ken Christie.

514
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,320
Musical supervision by Arigo Marino. Be
sure to join us on Monday night,

515
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,400
same time in Station for another exciting
story of Yours Truly Johnny Dollar. Roy

516
00:40:00,519 --> 00:41:04,280
Roman speaking welcome back, Well,
I'll be honest, this is my all

517
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,159
time favorite, yours truly, Johnny
dull or Cereal, And there's so much

518
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:14,159
to talk about on this one.
We'll start with some of the smaller items

519
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,559
and then go into the big overarching
themes as we get to the close of

520
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:24,559
the commentary. First of all,
let's talk about the scene with Johnny on

521
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:31,800
the trail and episode four looking for
Kathleen and dealing with Benny Stark and a

522
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,760
blizzard. This is, simplite,
some of the best radio you will ever

523
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:44,880
hear, with the mix of music, sound effects and Bob Bailey's narration and

524
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,320
acting. Just grab your attention and
carry the scene through. And this is

525
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:57,519
actually the only scene that I've ever
actually paid someone to animate, and I'll

526
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,440
include a link to it in the
show notes. It's to see how they

527
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:07,840
interpreted it at Even if the pictures
don't quite match the vivid ones that would

528
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,079
be in the heads of most listeners, it's just such a well executed and

529
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:20,199
suspenseful and dramatic sequence. And of
course that comes down to Bob Bailey,

530
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:28,119
and let's just appreciate how good he
is in this serial. Bailey is praised

531
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:34,400
oftentimes for being the best Johnny Dollar
actor, but in this serial, I

532
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,519
think it really is at another level. He has so many great scenes and

533
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:46,800
really his performance is just a masterclass. And having listened to the serial a

534
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,239
few times this time through, I
noted some of the actors, and the

535
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,360
first few times through I was so
into the story, I didn't pay a

536
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,000
whole lot of attention, but I
noticed that you had a couple of actors

537
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:07,280
in this who were playing parts that
were very different from the sort of roles

538
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,480
that you would associate with them.
Now. Ken Christy tended to play a

539
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:21,000
lot of generic cops and policemen.
It wasn't exclusively, but that's probably the

540
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:25,159
most common role I've heard him.
And of course he had ongoing roles as

541
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Lieutenant Johnson on Let George Do It
after Wally Mayer was no longer available to

542
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:37,079
play Lieutenant Riley. And he was
also the second actor to play Noah Danton

543
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:44,000
on Mystery as My Hobby, and
in the serials Don Diamond. I've noticed

544
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:51,079
he plays a lot of younger,
edgier hipper characters. For example, in

545
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:57,559
the Broderick Catter he played a jazz
musician. In the Que Bono Matter,

546
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:04,880
he played the guy who is running
the underground club sort of top from the

547
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,039
city, and that tends to be
his roles. Yet in this one,

548
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:17,039
Ken Christie plays Old Mike and Don
Diamond plays the sheriff's deputy, and I

549
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:22,719
think it really works well. I
don't think I've ever enjoyed a Ken Christie

550
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:29,880
performance more than in this story.
The start of the final episode was really

551
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:37,039
interesting from a character perspective, not
just for the way it handled the Johnny

552
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:43,280
Dollar opening in a very different way, because Johnny, of course is a

553
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:51,199
bachelor, and that's a conscious choice. If there's any part of the character

554
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:58,280
that carried over from the O'Brien era, it may be from that one story

555
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:07,880
where Johnny said he didn't like policeman's
wives and it was applied to both policemen

556
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:13,880
detective what have you. And what
he meant by that is he didn't like

557
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,480
what the job did to them and
how hard it was on them. And

558
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:30,599
so Johnny says a really strong conflict
between his job and having a family life,

559
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,800
and he loves his job, you
know, plus the fact that his

560
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,239
heart has gotten broken so many times
probably doesn't out matters. Yet in this

561
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:47,159
brief moment, Johnny indulges in a
bit of imagining what if or what could

562
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:52,000
have been, but which he never
expects to happen. I think that the

563
00:45:52,079 --> 00:46:00,000
fact that Johnny has conflicting desires about
family lives actually makes him more interesting than

564
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:05,320
those sort of characters who you just
know they're never going to get married and

565
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,480
have no interest in anything other than
their work. And I think it's really

566
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:16,719
particularly well handled in his interactions with
Jill. As for the story itself,

567
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:22,719
it's such a story of striking contrast. The majority of this serial after like

568
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,920
the first episode and and a half
in New York, takes place in Bramberry,

569
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,599
which feels like the sort of town
a Hallmark movie would be sent in.

570
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:38,400
Instead Johnny's hunting for a killer.
The contrast between the Christmas atmosphere and

571
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:45,400
the deadliness of the situation occurs time
and time again. Christ Miss music is

572
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:52,320
often played at times of extreme peril. It's such an odd but intentional juxtaposition.

573
00:46:53,079 --> 00:47:00,360
The conversation between Mike and Johnny in
episode three, when Johnny can here's

574
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:07,320
Benny to those who haunted Baby Jesus
drives home the point that this contrast between

575
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:13,960
the spirit of the season and the
cruelty and harshness of the world has always

576
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,760
been present. I think there can
be a view that Christmas, with its

577
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:23,880
joy and hope and peace on earth, really can only fit into a sort

578
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:30,360
of idyllic place, a sort of
fantasy, because reality is far harsher,

579
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:36,480
because the more we look at the
world and all that goes on, the

580
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:44,079
more Christmas and all of its themes
can seem out of place. Yet,

581
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:47,760
one of the big themes of this
episode is that evil in the world and

582
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Christmas have always coexisted, and so
they coexist in this story. The other

583
00:47:53,360 --> 00:48:00,559
big theme is courage. Johnny's confrontation
with Kathleen, as well as her final

584
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:10,239
line, really drive homeless theme and
the idea that fundamentally Christmas is about courage.

585
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,400
It takes courage to celebrate peace on
earth and goodwill toward men in the

586
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,599
face of all the evil and heartache
in the world, to do the right

587
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:27,360
thing in your life all the year
round, no matter how fearful the consequences

588
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,679
might be. And it explores this
idea through the Christmas story and what I

589
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:37,519
think is a really effective way.
The Nick Scharn Matter manages to be a

590
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:45,880
very good detective story and also a
very good Christmas story while also offering some

591
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,079
unexpected thematic depth. It's acting is
on point, and its use of music

592
00:48:52,159 --> 00:49:00,000
to drive the themes home is effective
without ever feeling overbearing. I'm the opinion

593
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,760
that this is one of the truly
great audio dramas ever made. It's an

594
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,559
all time classic, and it's always
such a pleasure to share it with you.

595
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,280
Well, now we turn to listener
comments and feedback, and we have

596
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,519
an email from Tom, who writes, Adam, I've been joining the Old

597
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:22,400
Time Detectives Christmas shows very much before
my time, but a really interesting glimpse

598
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,039
into the not too far past.
Well, thank you so much, Tom.

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00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:30,000
And now it's time to thank our
Patreon supporter of the day, and

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I want to go ahead and thank
Jonathan. Jonathan has been one of our

601
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Patreon supporters since March of twenty twenty. He's currently supporting the podcast at the

602
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:44,079
shamous level of four dollars or more
per month. Thank you so much for

603
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:47,199
your support, Jonathan, And that
will do it for today. If you're

604
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,880
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605
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00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:04,239
a week from Tuesday with our next
yours truly John ead All or Cereal as

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we'll be bringing you on core presentation
starting on Sunday and continuing through New Year's

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Day for our recording break, but
join us back here tomorrow for Dragnet where

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sure a lot of people from the
Mission Church come in here. Do people

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ever come in and sell back a
religious article like a prayer book? A

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rodaries? Yes, sir, second
hand? You mean, yes, sir,

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not since I've ever been around.
It's hilly Why people don't have religious

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articles so they can get rid of
them. They happened, so they can

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happen. But if a man had
a statue and wanted to sell it,

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he'd come to a place like this, sure, But he wouldn't want to

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sell it. He would if it
was stolen. No, sir, if

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a man was to steal a statue, he'd be crazy or something like that.

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The only place he'd want to go
is where crazy people are. You

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may be right, mister Flann.
I don't know what your fellas are looking

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for. But if it's somebody who
stole the statue, he's crazy and you

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won't find him. You won't find
him as long as you live or in

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a million years. That should cover
it. I hope you'll be with us

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then. In the meantime, do
send your comments to Box thirteen at Great

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Detectives dot net, follow us on
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This is your host, Adam Graham
signing off.
