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In this episode, our friend and comedian Greg Owens, who will be headlining
our comedy caravan at Remedy Inside, Finger Legs, Gaming and Racecrack on June
twentieth. Hope to see you there, he joins, and he's a dad.
I'm a dad. We talk a little Father's Day three years ago.
The kids all chipped in together and they brought me a gift basket for Father's
Day, which at first glance had had a box of cheerios and a thing
of Oreos, and I'm like, what the heck is this? And then
as I look deeper, it was loaded with Eddi's and pre rolls, and
they hooked me up with a nice little weed gift and the shit to take
care of the month He's go with Joey Chestnut is out of the fourth of
July Nathan's famous hot dog eating contests, and it's all because he is a
deal to represent impossible foods. We talked to our friend Sam from Project Lean
Nation about these impossible foods, No you andjust too much of it and men
can grow Tip And the lady I've been wanting to talk to for a while,
Danielle from Openly Committed. Our lives are so deeply entangled that when I
get to go on a date with another guy, there's none of that.
We're talking about books and movies and trips and travels. I mean, it
is a mental vacation all that. And Mark coming up right after this road
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Deli and East Rochester was always over there. Today I saw Patrick Bornunzio.
It's nice. Um, I'm gonna put the camera on you, Greg,
but not Oh nothing's working right so earlier I don't know what happened. I've
had a day where I've wrestled. It's like been an alligator wrestled with technology
all day. Nice. All my shit was filling up, so I spent
most of the day deleting videos and trying to move stuff to Google Drive.
And then it's not moving to Google Drive. Now I'm deleting things. I
have no idea what's going on. Then it's not freeing up much space.
So there's like, you got sixty four gigs available on here, I'm at
sixty two point three nine. But I've taken everything off this fucking thing.
I was ready to launch it right out the goddamn window. Then earlier today
I had an interview which I will drop into this podcast later on with a
woman who's openly committed. And you and I are going to talk about openly
committed in a little bit, but I don't even know what that means.
Openly committed. It means you're married, but you get to fuck other people.
Interesting. Yes, it's like not exactly swinger ish, but you go
on dates. And there is something that this woman says that I think is
fascinating. And I think that if your wife, how long were you?
How long have you been married? We're going on thirty years, okay,
thirty years. I think that'll be our thirtieth wedding. As will investigate openly
committed, So openly committed will be you going to the hospital. You'll be
admitted. So she but here, here's the thing that she said was whenever
she and her husband go on dates. It's always about they have kids that
are ten and seven or something like that. She goes, We're talking about,
like, you know, their college funds, their sports activities, what
other projects are coming up at the house, vacation. It's it becomes almost
like a business meeting, which I've been married. Yes, it does,
and you can probably write that's when you're out on just to let's say,
your date night. Did you do you and your wife or did you and
your wife have a date night? Ever? Oh? Yeah, absolutely,
And that's exactly right. You talk about all the shit you can't talk about
in front of the kids. In front of the kids, but it becomes
a lot of stuff that has to do with what's going on in life.
What she said is when I get to go on a date, I thought
this is interesting. She goes, I don't have to be mom. I'm
I'm not talking about things that are kind of pertinent to that or may have
some anxiety attached to them, and like how are we going to pay for
this? What are we going to do? She goes, I get to
go out on a date, I get to talk about books I've read or
movies or things that interest me. And I get to be kind of the
hot version of myself, and I went, oh, yeah, I bet
you every fucking woman that hears that is going to agree, don't you think
in a way to an extent, to an extent, I mean, it's
just you know that that what do you call it? That feel? You
know, the butterflies on you initial hookup and shit like that. So it
becomes one of the swear why you can swear you're perfectly fine. So the
thing is that like to me and you'll know this that I think after a
while, I'm actually gonna just stop this because it's not even recording. So
I tried to do this interview and I tried to get the video through I've
never done a Google hangout or a Google meet up. I guess what it's
called. So and it's like zoom. So I did it through the computer,
but I was trying to do it through these cameras. Whatever I did,
now it's not recording to the iPad. Yeah, that's all that stuff.
And this is great because I spent a number of years in radio,
like three decades, and I had a friend call me the other day and
go, hey, man, I've been checking out the podcast. I really
like it. How great is that you get to say what you want,
You can talk to you want to. I heard you even say like you
love having the rotating people around the table with you. And some days they're
a little more serious. Sometimes you do one on ones and I go yeah,
and they're like, it's got to be awesome. I coach yes,
fucking off till something breaks, because everything's on you. Everything comes out of
your pocket, everything's on your ass. You want to be the boss.
Hey, how about it? Here? It is this Life on your Rules?
Right, this is Life on your Rules? Speaking of that. June
twentieth, Yeah, that's a Thursday. It'll be Fingerlakes Gaming and Racetrack at
Remedy from seven to nine. It'll be myself, Dougie Fresh and headlining will
be Greg Owen. I'm excited for this. I think it's going to be
a really good show because I was thinking, like, you know, Doug's
always like a have you seen Doug. Doug sent me a video of him
practicing in his home where he actually plays the intro music. So he was
doing your show. So he sent me his practice video of getting ready for
your show, and he actually played the intro music like they do at the
club, And so he had the guns row this thing and he does the
whole thing. And then as he gets up there, he looks down and
there's some piece of laundry on the floor, so he flips that over his
shoulder out of the I couldn't stop laughing. But he goes full on to
do that. When you're getting ready for a show, do you do a
full on? And I may have asked you this already, forgive me if
I'm repeating myself. Yeah, not that detailed. I I just run the
lines in my head. Yeah, talk my talk to myself. I'd be
sitting in a chair doing it. Sometimes I get up and move around to
practice my stage movements a little bit. Yeah, but I'm not super I
don't do a lot of moving around on the stage. But so yeah,
I just kind of run it through, you know, Yeah, just rehearse.
I always think that the one thing that I've learned over the years is
just being natural, right, which is not always easy, you know,
on stage. But if I think if you're at ease, the audience at
ease, oh yeah, absolutely, you know, if you're if you come
in a little tight, they're gonna be a little tight. They almost mirror
back. They'll pick up on it on some of the stuff. Yeah,
exactly. And I think what they pick up on is that if you're that
way, then they think you're probably not gonna be as good as they would
like you to be, exactly, So they're not gonna be on board with
you, and they're not gonna know. And a tight audience isn't fun.
You want, you want to lose. That's why I always think like a
good MC just kind of isn't necessarily doing a ton of material. They're just
working that they're almost massaging the crowd into Hey, tonight's the night that you're
on date exactly that that bitch across from you, fellas, you don't know
her right right, you're trying to get in her pants? Kid, But
that would that would be the thing. You have kids, correct? Yeah,
they're all growing up now? Yeah? Four kids? Yeah? You
have four kids? Holy shit? I had three. Uh my youngest is
fourteen but lives with his mom. But my older guys are in their early
twenties. Uh, but you have four father's days coming up? Oh yeah,
yeah? Do you look forward to this? Is there anything you like?
Was it ever a big deal to you, ever, a real big
deal? No. I think the best one in recent history was about three
years ago. The kids all chipped in together and they brought me a gift
basket for Father's Day, which at first glance it had a box of cheerios
and a thing of oreos, and I'm like, what the heck is this?
And then as I look deeper, it was loaded with eddies and pre
rolls. They looked me up with a nice little weed gift and in the
shit to take care of the munch used to go with it. I thought
it was freaking esthetic. That is really funny. Yeah, that is really
How old are the guys or the kids? Youngest is twenty two, okay,
so yeah they're old enough, old enough. Sure. Yeah, So
got with the legalization of weed and bringing kids up? Did you did they
know? Did you smoke when they were No? Not you did it?
And I basically gave up smoking. And you know by the time I turned
thirty, yeah, which is went about when we started having kids, and
really never dabbled in it until just a little bit in the last couple of
years. And really, it fucking wipes me out. Well, it does
me I always feel like, now do you almost need a restrictor plate on
some of the weed. And they've got these fucking wild names like Patama Red
and blue Jack Green. I don't know something. Have you gone into a
dispense I have not gone into a dispensary. People have given me gummies and
things, but I have not. I've not been to one anywhere. I
went to one in LA when we're out and visiting our daughter a couple of
years ago. And uh, it was interesting, man, because he had
there was a security guard outside the shopping ball. You had to check in
with him, Yeah, show your ID. Then you go in and the
door to the place is locked, and they got other security guys standing outside
the Yeah, and then you gotta they scan your ID and you gotta give
you feel like you're going into a porn shop. Yeah right. You remember,
like had a CD bookstore, like you get away and see to throw
a corner in the slot and all that. But then we went into place
and it was really nice. I mean it was really great display table with
the you know, you could like sniff smell the different weeds, different flowers
or whatever they call them nowadays, and just displays all over the place and
then this kid comes to help us out and we're like, dude, we've
been out of the game for thirty years. We just want to get some
souvenirs for our druggy kids. Man, what a party gift. Now there's
a whole housewarming gift that most people would like. Yeah, usually because my
kids aren't druggies. Let's clear that one up. I grew up in such
a alcohol focused family. Yeah, I guess that would be. I mean,
if you're going to talk about drug I don't think my parents did any
weed. And I grew up near Woodstocks, so there were a lot of
people who did. I remember smoking a joint with somebody's mom at the high
school graduation party. But that wasn't my parents. They weren't boot big time.
Yeah, but yeah, people Irish people, right, and that was
a big deal. So then my mother is seventy six. So when she
was seventy five, she went to visit my brother in Maine, and they
went to somebody's house and somebody whipped out a bunch of gummies and they're like,
hey, try this, try this in So my mom pops one in
her mouth and my brother calls me later and goes, hey, wat's this
and she's just laughing, laugh at her ass off had a great time.
So of course everybody finds out right that she did this, everybody being my
dad. Now they were married for like thirty five years and then separated,
so my father has been on this kick. He's seventy eight. I want
to try one of those gummy bears. I really want to try those gummy
bears. And I'm going, yeah, you're seventy eight and you live alone.
Just wait till someone's around, because I don't know what who knows.
I'm not saying that you can't handle it, but I don't want you to
try to handle it. Tricky drug for an old dude. I think it
is even at five milligrams. I think it is. I mean, unless
you're Willie Nelson or Keith Richards. Fucking back off a little bit. So
he says to me, he just recently goes, I made a purchase that
I'll never use, and I go, okay, yeah, So I go,
what is this? He told me that he went to a dispensary and
he described it much like you. And he lives in Jersey, going through
double security all this stuff. He kind of felt almost like a criminal or
he didn't know what was happening. And he goes, yeah, so I
bought some gummies. I haven't had any, but he and I understand this,
and it must be something that I don't know if it's a learned or
an inherent thing, but I'm gonna go with inherent, because it was always
like, I don't need to do it, I just need to know I
can. You know what I mean, that's what my old man said.
He goes, I don't care that I don't need to do it. I
just need I just like knowing that I can do it. But I can
go by it. But I would love to see my old man stone before
you, just because he's so funny. If you now, I've learned the
difference. And I didn't even know this growing up. I just remember getting
high and laughing a lot. But it was usually some I mean, it
was probably some dirt shit that somebody. I had a buddy who used to
throw twigs. Yes, yes, you're right, but I had a buddy
who grew pot in between the cornstocks of a local farms for real, and
Uh, Stephen Dam and the I think it was him. They had uh
because I grew up in a very rural part of the state, and you
know, downstate, it was a little people were they didn't care as much,
you know, pot brownies eating. I had a teacher tell us about
you, if you're gonna smoke it, smoke it through a water bond because
the joint gets so hot the heat could melt the rosin on a roach clip.
So he's like, you don't want that heat in your lungs, so
drink, you know, do that or eat it. Well. Edibles weren't
what they are now, and I do enjoy edibles. And I was telling
you because you came in and a friend of mine was on the phone and
I said, I happened to be down at their lake house and I passed
out some because I was drunk and high. It's just, you know,
I call that Saturday. It happens. It happens when you're eighteen, nineteen
twenty, not fifty two. It just shouldn't be happening now, at least
not as often. You know, you're not. You're waking up in strange
place. It's not a good not a good sign. I got a plant.
I'm gonna do an eddie. I got to plan a day around it.
Yeah, what what did? Do you have a milligram that you like?
Uh? Like dosage? Cause, oh, I got these ten milligram
things. I always cut those in half because I'm a pussy. They hit
pretty good. Yeah, I like them. But I my one son gave
my wife for Mother's Day. This sounds like a great family if he gave
her these things, sounds like an awesome family. I want to hang out.
Five milligram ones yeah, and uh, one of them could get you
going pretty good. Yeah. Last year at the music fest, I brought
I had one before we got down here, and I gave one to my
wife. I put in a ziploc bag and suck it in her purse.
I said, hold on to that. And and you came to the Fairport
Music Vest. Yeah yeah, and uh, you know, if I ask
you for it, then you give it to me then. So then I
got the one five milligrams in me, and I'm like halfway through the day
and I'm like, this is like nothing nothing, So really I asked her
for the other one and I ate it, and literally like a minute later,
I was like, you know what, I didn't need that second one.
It takes a while like the edible. I always say, give it
two hours at least the first one, and then you'll go. And there's
I've learned. So even growing up around Weed, I never knew Indica and
Stativa. I think I'm saying that right right, the Stativa like is the
one that makes you laugh. Indica. Ever, I remember having a guy
from MJ's, which is a dispensary in Henrietta. I think it was the
first one to open in Monroe County. Uh, he goes Indica's into Couch's
out right. You're just you're you're just done for that. So Father's Day
maybe again, Maybe this time you get a plan. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. A gift card of some
kind, right, That was always the thing I used to love when the
kids were little because you get all their arts and crafts and ship and then
as everybody got older. I don't know. This year, I feel a
little bad because I'm going to go see the stones in Cleveland with my brother.
Oh nice, father, father to stay weekend. It's the fifteenth.
So he's flying in and he's got two little kids and he's like, eh,
so his wife's like, oh good, way, I don't have to
plan anything for father's sake. See you get a day off? Yeah right,
all right, so that'll be the uh, that'll be the big thing.
I guess A gift card is the number one thing's dad want, according
to a survey of a thousand dads. Uh, something food or drink related.
Right, it's like his beer gift cards. Gift cards number one,
and then something food or drinking, clothing or shoes. I don't want anybody
buying me that ship. You even get me the dad grilling shoes, electronics.
I can see tickets to a concert or sporting event. Actually, one
of my sons got me tickets one year sporting goods. Do you golf or
anything? I want to start it up again? I used to and I
got out of it, so yeah, I wouldn't. Were you good at
it? I suck? I fucking sucked, probably sucked. But I thought
I was good, But I probably sucked, you know what I mean?
Like I think I actually uh wrote forty on nine holes one time. Oh
that's pretty good, actually, zone Yeah that was just a yeah nominally you
know what I mean? That would never happen again. Never did happen again.
But uh, and then you know, I haven't been playing much.
Played a couple of years ago and then a couple of years before that.
Last time it was just a disaster. Yeah, but I'd like to take
it up again, get a lesson maybe. Well, there you go.
There's a good thing for Father's Day. Put that word out there. Yeah,
you know there's some good place to take lessons. Uh, books or
music, anything that would appeal to you. What do you listen to?
The were not big on gifts. Just for gifts, you know what I
mean? Yeah, our family, but unless it's weird. Uh, unless
it's a nice it's a big old bag a weed and Oreole cookies. And
I'll tell you what, I can't think of a better stack. When you're
getting the munchies. Oh god, damn, you put the fucking weight on
it. Puts the weight on quake. Those Oreos you got a favorite?
How about the oriole Blonde? You have to have those? No, I
just I'm just a straight, straight old Oreo guy. Books, your music.
If I looked at you, I would go If you said to me,
I like the dead, I'd go, Yeah, I get it right,
right? But I mean, what is it? Am I right?
Almond? Brothers Dead class Man much. I don't like the Dead that much,
you don't. I like Little Feet better? Yeah yeah, and a
little more upbeat, yeah right? And uh well Stones, I love the
Stones. Zeppelin's my all time favorite class okay, classic rock books. If
somebody were to give you a book, I can't stay awake for more than
one page anymore, Legit. I just read a book and fall asleep.
Man, I would like to read Stop Fucking the Animals before you read Jesus.
I would love to read more, man, And I just really yeah,
but I uh, you fall like in the middle of the day.
Let's say's two o'clock in the afternoon. You whip out a book, nice
sunny day, you're sitting out, your wife's gone out, you got the
house to yourself. You kick back, You've got some Zeppelin cranking. It's
windows are rocking, and you're sitting out back. You go, you know
what I'm gonna read? Do you the cigar? Wow? No? Not
really, but I'm not against it. I just yeah, yeah, I
don't either. Uh Scotch though, you ship back more? Just the beer.
I have a beer. You got your book and you think you're out
at two o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, a couple of pages love man.
Yeah, it is something that couldn't like you just mellow out. No,
it's not. It's just that man, just totally relaxed and focused in
on something. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when you wake up in the
middle of the night, they say to get back to sleep, just get
to get yourself comfortable, to take some deep breaths and concentrate on one thing.
Just focus in on it. That's something that mellows you out and you'll
go back to sleep quick. But no one can. I can't do that.
I can't do that either, going a million different ways. Yeah,
I've been I think because I had two weekends in a row that I was
just acting like I was thirty years younger than I am. I I was
in bed by seven fifty nine Saturday night, man, but I read to
like eleven o'clock. I did read, and then I was like, I
got it, goes. So I usually take like a magnesium gnate type thing
to help you sleep, but I'm out of it. So I took I
took a like an advil PM and man, the next day he was like
waking up with a hangover. I got the fuck is going on? I
hate this. I hate this getting older shit, jewelry for no, Yeah,
I have nothing smart watch that, yeah, I don't. I don't
even have a watch, no rings anymore because I'm not married. I've got
no nome. I'm very boring, very very boring. I don't think I
think it's just whatever. Yeah, yeah, I think it is whatever is
as well. We'll take a moment. There's a little controversy in the world
of the hot dog eating contest, Nathan's Hotdogs. You see this, yeah,
and I think that, Well, we'll get into it. I'm gonna
call somebody who has a little more nutritional knowledge. They own a Lean Nation
franchised in Canadagua, and she'll be able to tell us a little bit more
about these impossible meats, which I'm not Solvan, I'm not I'm not.
Okay, good, we're of one mind on this. Yeah, we'll be
of mon mind of this. All right. We will take a moment.
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and I can't believe they're eighty years old. It's still still playing stadiums in
the fucking wild and it's crazy. It is crazy, it really is shape
to me. Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything but I know I didn't
know. I have no idea. I I'm so frustrated over here. I
apologize because now I'm able to record the videos and the sound it looks like
it's coming through, but I can't get us to go live on any of
the platforms. And I don't know why. And it was whatever I tried
to do earlier today to take this Google interview with this woman, who,
by the way, I just have to say this. We're gonna have Danielle
from openly committed on and she is if you look at her, she's like
the all American girl. She you know, like just has that all American
look, red hair, green eyes, but you know, just not really
pretty. And I swear to God, if somebody goes, hey man,
they're openly coming a bit, get the fuck daddy, it's no way.
There's no way, because I'm thinking, like, oh, I know people
in your right guys talk and somebody go, hey man, you know they
swing, and you go, I can see it, right, I can
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and this woman came in and she had her lips injected, and she's
a little older and she's got something. You know, the cleavage like,
oh god, the cleavage is as big as the fucking canal out here,
and it's like you know, and I go, oh, yeah, yeah,
I see it. I see it. I could see what's happening here.
There's a whole lot of advertising going on for exactly you know what I
mean, a whole bunch of stuff, and not this woman, not the
not the way it is. So an interesting things has come about with the
uh Nathan's hot Dog eating Contest July fourth. Joey Chestnut has won this every
year since twenty sixteen. I think, I don't know how many years totally
he's won, but I know since twenty sixteen he's been the winner. He
set the world record seventy six hot dogs and whatever the amount of time is
that they do it, and he's become the name synonymous with this. So
they offered him two hundred thousand dollars I think last year to come, and
then this year they were offering him like a multi year contract at one point
two million dollars from the National Eating Association. I don't even know what it
is. That's a whole it is a whole sports league. You're right,
it is. It's a whole sports league, and he's really kind of the
iron Man of that league, right winning that contest. And I wouldn't know
Joey Chestnutt if it wasn't for the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest. I don't
pay attention to any of these eating things because it was always on on the
fourth of July, and over the years it built up momentum. And just
like anything, when somebody's a repeat champion, you want to see who's going
to try to knock him off or do you cheer the champ on or whatever's
happening. So Joey has sensed joined forces with I think Impossible Dogs. So
so it's like the Impossible Burger. But he's so now he's since he's sporting
another brand and it's Nathan's and Nathan's pays for this, and you gotta wear
a nathan shirt and you're supposed to eat the Nathan's dog. They were trying
to meet all his demands, but they won't do this, and they're like,
you can't be in our contest if you're gonna be, and he's gonna
you know, it's almost like, uh, I remember who is the comic
Cedric the entertainer did a did a gig for Michael Jordan once and he came
out and adida sweatsuit and didn't even realize it, and he goes all of
a sudden, Jordan's He's screaming at him from the from the audience, you
know, and he goes. At first I thought it was a joke,
but he was pretty serious because it got word got back to me, backstays
and he goes, somebody gave me like a Nike thing and I put that
on when I went back out, and he's like, yah, so you
get people's I mean, look that you kind of get right. He built
a brand. I mean, Jordan really built Nike. If you especially if
you watch that Netflix show. I can't say the same for Nathan's with him,
but if they're paying you. So he's now in bed with his other
company, and I don't know how much money he's getting paid, he got
to be. It would take a lot for me to walk away from one
point two million dollars, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, so they're paying
him one point too just to come to the just to come eat the hot
dog, be in the contest. I think it was a multi year deal
for him to be in the contest, so it wasn't just one time deal.
Let me see, because it was all over the the news earlier today
and I have to let me make it find it real quick, Okay.
So yeah, Joey Chuessna out of the twenty twenty four Nathan's Hot Dog Eating
contest in a beef over Vegan Francs. So he's the preential winner, right,
and he has in Bubble Foods, which recently launched a vegan frankfooter and
pottom plants. He is the scene time winner every year is twenty sixteen seventy
six hot dogs in but he was expected to take again this year. But
he's not a major league You're right. It is its own league Major League
eating. It's MI I l E or mL E. Excuse me, which
Nathan sanctions to run the event, said the organization bent over backwards to meet
his various demands. They even agreed to let him participate in a arrival Labor
Day dog eating fest to be taped for TV, as long as no hot
dog brand was mentioned. So it wasn't going to be a Nathan's one.
But he could do that. A source said Chestnut was paid two hundred thousand
dollars to appear in Nathan's contest last year and was offered one point two million
dollars four year contract going forward. Why is he I mean it's not bad.
I mean that's more. That's almost two and a half that two fifty
a year to be in the contest. Yeah, two fifty a year to
fucking eat hot dogs. That's just one contest? Could one? Yes,
you could? So? Could I be very nice? That's okay? Uh?
Yeah, So he's the Michael Jordan of competitive eating. But imagine if
Michael Jordan said to Nike, I love being the face of Nike, but
I want to do commercials for Adidas too, and uh chestnuts out? How
wild is this? Yeah? So what are the offering him? Because the
fake meat companies? Oh, I'm not swimming in cash. I don't think
there's I don't know if they are. They aren't. That's a good point,
And I don't know where the marketing's coming from for that. Uh.
I just saw an article today that said while experts extol the health and environmental
benefits of a diet free of animal products, new research suggests that consuming ultra
processed vegan food can increase the risk of heart death. That's what it says
there. Now I want to call uh. I'm gonna call it woman.
Her name is Sam, and Sam Uh has a nutrition bodybuilder and knows this
stuff inside. Now, okay, all right, so yeah, we'll call
Sam and see what what Sam says. Here, give me one. We'll
discombobulated because nothing's working. Again. This is why I don't This is why
I always liked radio other people stuff. I didn't have to do any of
that stuff. Here we go, let's see. I just told her ill
it. Hello, Hello, Sam, how are you lovely? How are
you well? We were just talking about our our our friend Joey Chestnut and
the fact that well, first I should say that Sam is an owner of
a franchise, project Lean Nation, which does a lot of meal planning and
meal prep and is a really great way for people to get into a better
lifestyle. Would that be fair to say? Absolutely? Uh? And Sam
is also if you follow her on Instagram, she is just ripping it up
at the gym all the time, trying to right now, well, yeah,
Sam Is, that's true. Sam. Sam Is is pregnant, but
she could probably still deadlife more than I could even try not pregnant, and
I may look more pregnant if I did that. But the Okay, so
this Joey Chestnut thing is is sort of interesting because we were just talking about
it. He was offered one point two million dollars to come back for four
years. So that's like two hundred and fifty thousand, right around a little
over two hundred thousand a year, twenty three hundred, three hundred yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,
three hundred thousand. See, this is why I did this, right
exactly, this is why I do this. I didn't even know what I'm
doing. I can't get the technology to work tonight. I can't get anything
but this stuff, these impossible meats and things. I don't think they're that
I read that they're not that good for you. I haven't talked to someone
with a little more knowledge, but I suspect you have it in terms of
the knowledge, And what do you think of these impossible meats? Well,
it's a bunch of bullshit in a casing. So I'm in a casing.
It's a bunch of bullshit in a casing. So the impossible meats, the
burger patties and the dogs or whatever the hell you want to call them.
It's all highly processed soy, so they're full of soy. And if you
even pull up the ingredient list of anything an impossible burger, it's stuff that
people just shouldn't be ingesting, gotcha, you know, And you know there's
no such thing as good and bad, But we go, you know,
through this thing. Like I had a woman in our store last week and
she was legit mad at us because they sold meat in our store, and
he was a vegetarian. But you know, I spoke to my friend Laura,
who's a registered dietitian, and she goes some of the most unhealthy people
that she works with are vegans and vegetarians. Some of the fastest people I've
ever known were the ones who wouldn't meet I will never forget. Now now
I have to be careful because my sister has been vegan since I thought it
was since she was nine years old. She says it wasn't, but my
mother just couldn't cook. So I just tell you things. It was like
over boiled hot dogs like that just sat in the water and split open and
sat that slimy water. You would get that with running macaroni and cheese.
And my sister, Yeah, my sister was so grossed that I think that
she just went and she went in the opposite direction. Now she stayed with
that to the end. But I've known other people who, you know,
it's a lot of because you're eating a lot of well, chips and macaroni
and cheese and cheeses and things like that, and most of these people aren't
really disciplined, and I think, honestly are fooled into the fact that while
not I'm eating healthy, I'm eating I'm vegetarian. It doesn't mean you're eating
vegetables, asshole, it really does. Oh yeah, that's and that's the
thing. It's like, you see you see a really skinny person who's plant
based, and then you see a person that's two three hundred pounds eating plant
based because they're ingesting so many carbs, right, and then you know,
so it's the source, getting the source of protein, you know. And
that's what I spoke to Laura about and she's like, yeah, she's like,
speaking of vegetarians, the only good source of protein is tofu or tempe.
And then you have the other side of plant based who are eating tasas
and chips and all this bullshit cookies and stuff, and then they're like,
oh, I'm super healthy, and it's like, no, you're three hundred
pounds. It's heart disease. It's like, what's healthy about them? Well,
here's the thing is, it's funny because we're living longer. But this
may not be a name you know, Sam, but I bet you you
do, Greg, Jim Fixed. Remember a guy named Jim Fix? Sure?
And what was Jim Fix known for? He was? He was a
runner. He was a runner. And what happened, you fix, its
heart attack running which I don't run, which I should not run. Come
on, I don't think it has I think his diet was bad or it
was high cholesterol. And we're in a time where like you get into that
heart attack age. But nowadays we'll probably live longer than at least previous generations
because of things like colorectal screenings and heart disease and cholesterol checks and all this
stuff that we've you know, we've really learned about to keep this machine running.
But it's also what you're putting into it. Yeah, and uh,
I think this stuff you say the soy, and I always thought soy for
for men not a particularly good thing to be ingesting, at least not all.
I mean, if you like, no, you ingest too much of
it, and men can grow tips. And that's just the truth. But
it's you know, there's there's a good source of story and then it's a
bad source of which is in the impossible needs. It's just so highly processed
and then they have thickeners and other chemicals to bind it together, and it's
just it is probably the worst thing that it's one of the worst things you
can put in your body. But I mean we put bad shit in our
body every day, so we do. I mean that that was always my
look. I think like people would say to me about the vaccine and I
go, wow, I put a lot of shit in my body. But
I think that became a I don't want to be told what I have to
do and don't have to do. Right. That was full, Yeah,
people's real issue with that. Now with this though, I think people are
looking at it as well. It's a great alternative. It's better for the
environment. I'm not you know, if we have less cows, it's less
methane. We're not putting holes in the ozone layer. I have no idea.
I don't I don't know. There's so many things that I don't know
about anymore. Both, well, so many things I don't either. And
I'll just say this. I grew up in a very rural area and we
used to run through cowfields and we would take the dried cowshit. It was
like, yeah each other, and we would whip it at each other.
Oh. Yeah, you grew up in a rural area too. I grew
up in sark Capital. Yes, that's right, surrounded by cornfields and cornfields,
cabbage and cows. That was it. And we used to take it.
And by the way, will you tell me this, because nobody agrees
with me. I do not believe you can actually cow tip. I uh,
I never. Do you know somebody did? I've never. I've known
people who've been me. I don't know anybody. You have to get quite
a few people on the one side of a cow, and you have to
get a cow that doesn't move. Yeah, it works. I mean I
grew up next to a dairy farm and we used to go over and tip
the cows with the owner's son. Okay, the owner's son. Yeah,
because listen. I could never remember seeing things and hearing things about I go.
I'm thinking this is a myth. I don't know anybody who could do
it. You can do it, you have to get enough people on the
one side of the count. Do they die when they fall over? No,
it's like a freaking fading goat. Now that I have seen, I
have seen. I can't wait. I will own one of those. When
they say the fading goat, Yeah, why are you going to own a
faining goat? Sam? Because I just want to wake up every morning and
scream at it and it does you know what? That may some fun on
edibles, yeah right, but that may be a way to eliminate stress for
your day. You get it all out the fading goat. You start your
day with a good laugh and there you go. Yeah, what happens to
the goat? It gets nervous. It just shuts down. It's kind of
like when you get punched hard enough, your brain shuts down. You flap
it. You know the slapping contest You've seen those on Facebook right now?
They slap each other. Yeah, it's hard to take care. It's like
that. You see these people stiffen up, and that's essentially what it is.
Ah, I haven't seen the slapping contest with the hand. I've seen
it with the like, oh, you should have a show on that.
No, I see. I don't get. I don't get that there's a
whole I think there's a guy from around here who I know. There was
somebody who's one of the best at arm wrestling in the country. And then
I thought there was somebody who was a slap champion where they slap each other's
face. It's like a real contest. Yeah, yeah it is. They
stand on each side of the table and they slap each other. Yes,
it's ridiculous. That looks well. I'd rather like give me something where I
can I can like move and I you know, if I step into it,
if I go there, if you fooled me and I step into it,
then that's my fan. But at least I had a chance. This
is what I don't get. I am not going to sign up and have
somebody just snack me because I want to. You won't make it count.
If I hit you, thank You's I would. I would agree with that
as well. Is your husband's still training people, Uh, we're trying to
convince him to go back to training people. But he's just enjoying being in
the store at the moment and teaching people this side of health and wellness.
So and it's funny that you called me because we, like I said,
we had that woman come in who was very plant based, and you know,
we do have create a few people that come in and try to argue
us on it. And like I said, there's there's no such thing as
like good and bad. It's all on moderation. It all depends on how
active you are, what you're putting in your body. And yeah, well
give me the project. Like Nation's sort of elevator pitch like it. It's
pre planned meals that I can buy right that has everything I'm gonna need calorie
wise, and if I follow that, look, well the saying is absur
made in the kitchen. Yeah, so it's you're realistically like if people are
like, oh, I'm going to go on plant based to lose weight or
I'm going to go on keto to lose weight, you're just cutting calorie if
you're in a calorie deficit. So what our meals do is we provide healthy,
sustainable meals that you know, if you're looking to gain weight. We
have an athlete portion size, we have a lifestyle portion size, which is
for the average everyday person, and they average four hundred and fifty calories.
So if you're going to eat three of those a day, you're already in
a calorie deficit because all of these meals are portioned out for you and all
you have to do is put them in the microwave. So what we do
is we help guide people. We give them their calorie and take We ask
them what they're doing for activity, and if there's somebody that's very sedentary,
we say, hey, we want you to get up and walk for thirty
minutes to day. We had a girl sign up, she's a corrections officer.
She in her first month just changing the way she ate is down twenty
phones. Yeah that's pretty good. So I mean, yeah, it's amazing
for somebody that you know, is on our feet all day, but they're
not moving as much in the jail. So for her to just change what
she eats, you're already going to cut weight because you're in a calorie deficit.
Well, I did one of those diets that was designed for diabetics,
and then they realized, you know, it's so good. And I did
lose thirty pounds in forty days, but I was eating five hundred calories a
day or five hundred and fifty calories. Yeah, not sustainable, No,
it's not. And then what I will tell you, though, is that
you lost a lot of like visceral fat, which is the fat that really
slows down, or organs and things like that. So I slept better,
I felt better, I felt like I thought clearer. But who can really
tell? Yeah, but what happened when you started putting food? Like eating?
So I was able to keep it off for about two years, and
then I started introducing my favorite beverages, like getting the liquid. Yeah,
Guinness came back and big times and you know, eight or nine of those
and on a Saturday. But here was something that was interesting though, And
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. So I lost. I'm six
' one two hundreds, probably a comfortable weight for me, right, I'm
running way higher than that. I'm down about ten. I've been working at
this, but I got down to one ninety and I looked to some people
like almost emaciated, like too thin. So I'm at some event and people
are going, come on, man, you gotta eat a sandwich. You
gotta eat sandwich. So everybody's going out for a drink afterwards, and I
was drinking like a glass of wine that was sort of alloud. So I
had a glass of wine and they're all making fun of me. And I
went home and I'm like, you know what, fuck it? And I
started. I look in the fridge and there was a lot of grass fed
beef and all this stuff. So I grabbed strawberries and a jar of peanut
butter and I go to town with the peanut butter, dipping the strawberries in,
and I'm having a fucking field day with this. And I woke up
stam. I was hungover. Yes, oh my god, it's exactly the
word I was going to use. I had lines in my face. And
it was funny because my mom had come up. At the time I was
married, my wife was out of town. My mom came up to watch
the kids. And the next one she goes, oh my god, what
happened to you? I'm like, what, al bender? It's making out
with a jarr peanut butter. I was making out with the jar peanut butter
and it's the sugar, right. I hadn't had sugar. Yeah. Yeah,
So we we do a program called seventy five Hard and it's I think
we talked about it a while ago and I was back in the office with
you guys, and it's two workouts the day. It's following a diet no
alcohol, no cheat meal, so posentially no sugar, I mean other than
fruit and no processed sugar. So I yeah, well I have a big
sweet tooth. And the day seventy six, I was like, I'm going
ham. I want donuts and I want cookies. And the next day I
woke up and I was like, holy shit, did I go out drinking
because it's just a large amount of sugar and I was bloated. It was
bad. So it so it happened. It was interesting to me from that
diet, I realize and that this will go back to the impossible meat.
I think in a way, we really poison ourselves with what we eat.
Oh yeah, and and strictly from a lack of knowledge, like what's easy
and convenient is not good, you know. And it's like growing up,
you know, we ate the boiled frank ballpark ballpark franks whatever they were called,
and the mac and cheese craft, you know. And now it's like
they have all these organic box macaroni cheese, like, O, hey,
what the fuck is organic about. It's so powdered cheese that you have to
put milk and butter into. But it's I don't know, it's just you
know, at this point, I do eat healthier, and I do try
to get my son to eat healthier. And my husband is very good at
eating healthy. Like the man just came home a salad bowl or mixing bowl
full of frozen vegetables and a whole bag of salads. And that's just like
what he'll eat. But you know, into it. Yeah, that's why
across from the bar you get to watch him. Get him on the other
call him a Greek god. He is. He does. He told me
he's not getting fat this pregnancy. So the last pregnancy he gained some weight.
So he goes, he goes, shamoo, it's all you. He
goes, I ain't getting fat this time. Wow, this will be your
your second child. And I don't know, usually that wouldn't fly. Shamoo
call. We were listen it was he called me shamoo through the first pregnancy,
and we have a great Uh, we have a great joking relationship.
So he bust my ballsyeballs bussed his. But we were in Wegmans a couple
of weeks ago. I picked something off off the shelf and he goes,
no way, shamoo. And this olderly the aisle next to us was mortified.
She was so pissed. She goes, what did you just call her?
I go, man, it's mine your own business. Where I should
have where I should have just started crying. Oh my god. They would
have had him arrested security. That's wild. All right, Well, I
I'm glad to hear that I wasn't too far off the mark on the impossible,
Uh, Joey chestnut thing. Obviously, for Joey it's a bank account
issue, and it's not impossible. You have to eat the impossible like dogs.
Or is he eating just the normal acid lips mystery meat. He won't.
Yeah, acid lips mystery meat that was usually Friday night in college.
I Uh, I don't, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I
don't know. I don't know what his deal is. Apparently he's signed a
deal with this other company, so I don't think he can be endorsing any
other hot dog, which then would be Nathan's if it was not you know,
if the other hot dog wasn't named. I'm sure he could be part
of something, but I don't know what. It's not disclosing what he's getting
from impossible, it's just saying what Nathan's was offering and that he's not going
to be in it this year. No, he should not know. I
was a lot of money though, yeah, it is. It is.
What would happen to me? One quick question? Sure, what would happen
to a guy that's used to eating seventy b francs in a five minute period
and then if he switches to eating seventy impossible francs in a five minute period?
What effect does that have on his body? Though? I don't know.
He might be on the toilet for a couple of days, but you
have a great tube steak. I mean, I can't imagine what the hot
dogs do to his body. But yeah, well he's very thin, which
you got to think those guys only eat that craft like they're only eating you
know, they're they're eating a large amount of calories in a day. But
I don't know how active he is. I don't know what he's doing for
training, you know. So it's if they're only eating seventy hot dogs that's
probably one of the only things for eating in a day, or they're going
late hours later and blink and they're throwing it up like I have no idea.
I don't know how the support work. Yeah, I don't. I
don't either. It looked like they probably do that day, keep it down
and then may not eat. I don't know. I'm sure. I'm sure
there's a strategy behind it somewhere along the line. I wouldn't be eating for
days after. Yeah, I mean either, always a pleasure to talk to
you. Would love to have you back in someday as the pregnancy progresses and
we get to see uh. I was gonna say shamou, but that doesn't
feel appropriate. I will not say that. I just but you know,
Project Lean Nation. Check it out this store in Canandago. There's a couple
throughout the Great Rochester area. But if you want the best service, you
got to go to Canandagua. All right, thank you, thank you two
there she goes, Oh there it is. This is your thinking, your
impossible stuff. I don't know that it's that much better if all I'm with
you, that's all. I was never a big fan. Uh, we'll
take a moment. I'm gonna drop in. I did a one on one
with Danielle from Openly Committed, and it's an interesting conversation. But I will
say this. I will say this, Greg, I did not ask only
because I assumed that and I guess it was sort of a miss in an
interview, right, But to me, it felt like a base question to
talk about. So do you have sex with these other people? And do
you use protection? And I'm like, I know the answer to this.
I think we all do. Yes, they're probably having sex with somebody else.
That's what open it would be. And then the other part is if
they choose to use protection or not, Well, it's not of your business.
You're not the one getting into bed with him again, right, So
I didn't ask that. What I did ask now, anyway, What I
did ask about nasty comments that she gets on TikTok from people and how a
family member outed her to her parents about being in an open marriage. Yeah,
and how that all went down, That to me is way more interesting.
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I found Danielle on TikTok and I don't even know how, And then I
feel like a creep like I think it came up in my for you,
but I don't even know how. And I must have something for redheads because
I was like, oh, here's a pretty redhead green eyes. All right,
I'll watch this, which is terrible. You're not the only one.
And then I started hearing about openly committed and I go, what is this?
And you talk about being in an open relationship, but you have a
family, you have children. I think you just did a whole thing at
Disney. I watched it. I watched you do all these videos at Disney,
and you were just talking about just regular life stuff. You've even talked
so much about where you and your husban and have and obviously if you're going
to do this lifestyle, you have to communicate a lot. But you talked
about at times as I think he asked you to be monogamous for a while.
M h. And how does I guess? How does all that work?
Here's the thing that I'm always fascinated with. And I think about this
with everything, and please don't take this the wrong way, but even with
crime, when I see somebody who goes, I go, how did they
get that other person to agree to do? Do? You know what I'm
saying, Like I used to say that with the Menendez brothers, because I
have sons. I go, how did one go to the other and the
other guy goes, not a good idea, that's not a good idea at
all. We shouldn't do this. And and I'm I think that with everything,
and I go, how does this come up in a marriage between two
people who probably started out monogamous? I would assume, all right, I'm
not sure how I feel about us compared you know what, if we're going
to if we're going to compare it to a crime, then I am an
equal partner. If anything, I think that sometimes like I'm the strategic planner.
You know, he's driving the getaway car and I'm really figuring out the
robbery. Let's not compare non monogamy to a crime. We will not.
And I didn't, and I certain see that's why I said, don't take
this the wrong way. But I was just curious as to how did two
people like, how do you get somebody to do this? Yeah? I
mean, so the thing is my husband and I get this all the time
as a comment on on TikTok especially, but my husband did he brought up
the idea of non monogamy, but it was never an ultimatum. It was
something that he and I figured out together. So you brought up this idea,
hang on your froze for a second. Maybe that's okay, you froze
for just a second. I just have to say this. Why am I
not surprised the guy was the one who approached this idea. I think that
that's changing significantly. I think actually the more people I speak to, it's
women that are bringing up more so than men. But going back to he
brought up the idea, and it was we explored together. So we had
just started dating. This was fourteen years ago. We had been dating for
just a couple of months, and my husband and I had instant chemistry.
I mean it could be a meet cute out of a rom com. And
from the moment we met, we wanted to figure out how do we make
a relationship work forever? And I think that he and I had both seen
affairs decimate relationships, decimate family members, and when we started, we were
trying to figure out how do we affair proof our relationship, how do we
make sure that we don't have some grenade, some mistake that either of us
could make that would ruin our family. And that was kind of how we
started an open relationship. And we spent two years reading books and going to
swingers clubs and having a threesome. And then I would kiss someone and he
would kiss someone, and I would go on a date and he would go
on a date, and we would talk about it all and it took us
two years to figure out what did we want for our relationship, for us
and nobody else, and it turned into an open relationship. Okay, So
I I was married, and I'm picturing back to then, and if my
wife at the time had come to me now, I'm still I'm not married
now, So to your point, I don't know, but I would say,
like, if she came to me and said I wanted to, it
would make my sphincter tight, like I get all nervous inside. It would
make me uncomfortable. And I think that that's a probably a knee jerk human
reaction, but at the same time, because you almost would feel like,
well, I'm not good enough, is that okay? And so yeah,
okay, I mean I think that feeling of not that idea of not being
good enough It was my first reaction too when you brought up this idea.
But at the same time, I mean, now I've and I've been doing
this for fourteen years, and now I take a step back, and I
say, first of all, dear feminism, no, man, you know,
my value is not determined by being enough for a man, right,
So like, I think that that's the first thing, and there's a lot
of ways to get for filment and our needs and desires and wants met outside
of our relationship. I have a question for you, Bill, Yes,
all right, with your ex wife if she was if a guy was flirting
with her and found her super sexy and super attractive, would you feel jealous
or would you feel proud? That's a um depends on I think I'd probably
see it's hard for me now because I've been out of the relationship for five
years. So my first answer to you would be like, I'd be like,
hey, man, take her, uh, because I can see down
the road out terrible as that I'm kidding, I am kidding. I don't
know. It depends because I have walked into a situation where I got annoyed.
But there's some guy was draped all over and that was that annoyed me.
But let's say I was with someone today and someone was flirting with them.
I think I would be proud. But I would be proud because I
think I would believe she was coming home with me and only Yeah. Do
you think there's a fine line though, between kind of jealousy and getting a
little bit turned on? Yes, I think there is a fine line.
So so then how does it work now? Because let's say, I mean,
uh, you know, let's say you get all dressed up as you're
going out with somebody else. I would I don't know, I'd have to
be in the other room when you left. I couldn't look at it.
And you're like, god, dang, we really are you kidding me.
My husband gives me some of the best advice. She's like, honey,
don't wear those jeans. Your ass looks way better in the other pair.
Oh okay, I mean. And he and people are different. I've spoken
to I think since starting the TikTok, which I started two years ago,
almost of the day two years ago, I have spoken to hundreds of people
and couples and open relationships, and everyone is very, very different. Sure,
And I've my husband doesn't. There are certain men out there in the
world that get really excited about their their wife or their woman being with someone
else, their plenty and it goes both ways, both both genders. For
my husband, that's not part of our open relationship, but he genuinely wants
me to be happy and have fun. And then the condition that are that
I have a lot of respect for our marriage, that I am communicating transparently,
and that I'm being honest, that we're both you know, have this
transparency and honesty in our relationship, and our relationship is really strong. I
feel like when we have experiences and romance outside of our marriage, it gives
us both energy, it gives us both joy, and we kind of get
to bring that back into the into our lives. It's pretty special. Can
I ask you something a little more personal? What what do you do?
Only? Because here's why. What what really struck me with your tiktoks is
how good you are on camera, how articulate you are in terms and that
sounds I don't mean like mush mouth mumbling, I mean articulate in expressing all
these points. And I gotta think in the world we live in today,
where we have keyboard warriors everywhere that people are not very kind. I have
to think that, yes, so, but there's that pretty smile, and
I just wonder, like, how does it? How do you wear all
that? And I'm a big it's very easy to say what other people's opinion
of me is none of my business? Right, none of my business.
However, when it's coming right to your pocket, so to speak on your
TikTok page, that's got to be tough. And you, I mean to
me, I go, boy, this is someone who's pretty brave to put
it, put it all out there. Well, thank you. It affects
me. I mean, I definitely will take breaks. I'll take a week
or two breaks if I've gotten a lot of hay, I've definitely gotten a
ton of hate. Oh, you know, it's really hard. Is sometimes
like a right wing church gets a hold of a video and then okay,
so that's an interesting thing with the right wing church, because I'm going,
you know what, how many times so if we heard the person who would
and I always say they're over compensating when they rail against well, I don't
know if you call it an all term, but gay lifestyles or whatever.
And then we find out later on that the guy was in the bathroom trying
to pick somebody up in an airport in Minneapolis, right, and he's this
right wing conserve. So what are they doing? How are you even coming
up in their feed to begin with? What are the you know what I'm
saying, Well, okay, how do I come up with their feeds?
I think? And one of the things we just kind of have to recognize
is happening in the world. Polarizing content is sure when one of my videos
goes viral, and I have had I think I've had like fifteen videos over
and over a couple of million views, I think, you know, so,
I've had quite a few videos go viral. And the theme that I
see is that when one of my videos go viral goes viral, it is
because it has stimulated a black and white, deeply polarizing conversation and the angrier
that people get in the comments, the angry or the other side gets in
the comments, and my video blows up. And I the first thing to
answer your question, like how do I deal with that? I think the
first thing that I do is I recognize that polarizing content is what goes viral,
and to just you know it, let it, let it do its
thing. I think the second thing is I really recognize that when people are
commenting and they are seeing my content, what they see has much what the
way they react excuse me, has much more to do with them than it
does with me. People are reacting to thirty to sixty seconds of me and
my life, and you know, they are basing that off of their own
experiences and they maybe they were cheated on, maybe they grew saw an affair,
maybe they are they just deeply are monogamous and does not mix with their
beliefs, and that is okay, right, And I think that's kind of
the second thing. And the third is I don't know. I don't know
if there is a third. I think those are my two. All right,
So let's let's go back to a couple different things. Because you are
married and you have children, and I would assume you keep this away from
the kids. I keep the social media away from the kids. So,
oh, you mean my open relationship. Yeah, yeah, so I think
it's my kids are ages ten, my daughter's about to turn seven. We
have started to talk about this a little bit with my son. Really,
yeah, not my daughter. I think that he felt age appropriate. It
felt like it was kind of the right time to sort of bring up a
lot of these ideas, and honestly, a lot of it had to do
a little bit with LGBTQ. Plus we were talking. You know, my
son, he was born and raised in the Bay Area in California. We've
recently moved to western North Carolina. He has two friends, both of whom
have same sex parents. And you know, it never occurred to him,
God blessed ten year olds, It never occurred to him that a man wouldn't
be able to marry a man and a woman wouldn't be able to marry a
woman. You know, here he grew up thinking that absolutely that's allowed.
If someone loves someone, they get to love someone else. And he actually
asked us, Wendy, He's like, what happens when someone loves two people?
And you know, we kind of had a conversation around how that would
work. So I like to think that we are treading lightly on introducing this
concept to our kids, and it has nothing to do with us and our
relationship. We obviously have a lot of pride and thought process that has gone
into our relationship that we feel really confident in that we have no problem explaining
to our son. However, our son exists in the world today, and
we are very We're much more worried about what we'll hear from his friends or
his friend's parents are down down there as they get older. Yeah, I
think our kids needs to be of a certain age. How people know.
I couldn't look at you and go, oh, she's obviously in an open
I would have no idea, so how right, I'm like a wolf and
she I don't know. I don't even mean you, but I mean any
anyone. I wouldn't be able to go, oh, yeah. How do
you find people to go on dates with? Then? Oh, that's hard.
It is really difficult. I'm not gonna lie. It takes finding kind
of your community, sort of friends of friends. Dating apps. There's quite
a few dating apps that are dedicated to nominogamy at this point, okay,
and I believe I forget. I don't know which one it is, but
there are a couple of dating apps that you can actually set your in a
nominogamous or open or polyamorous relationship. And it's I mean, it's four to
five percent of the relate of the population of the US. US couples consider
themselves in some type of consentual non monogamy, whether that's swinging or it's just
open, or whether it's a triad, or whether it's polling I was going
to say, or one partner's not telling the other. And that's the rates
of non consensual nominogamy. So cheating are still in the depending on the state,
between thirty and sixty percent. I mean people cheat, Yeah, they
do. So when you have you ever, here's a funny one. So
your husband goes and dates people as well? Then, okay, and has
he ever shown you pictures of people? I'm like, they do you ever
do that? Go? What do you think of this guy? What do
you think of this girl? What do you think? Have I or would
you ever said? Yeah? Would you say to him? What if were
you thinking? I didn't know. My husband's got pretty good taste in women.
Okay, you know myself included. Have I seen that? So?
I don't think. I don't think when it comes to his dating apps,
i've seen a girl beforehand, I don't think. So I did show him
a picture once of a I'd be like, what do you think? That's
a different funny story. But I have met a couple of the women that
he's dated, you have I have, Yeah, does that make you jealous
at all in that moment? Reason for different reasons than you would think,
I think early on in our relationship. So take a step back from nominagmy
right, and you just think about a relationship that has been together for fourteen
years. In the beginning of that relationship, the phases you were in your
honeymoon phase and everything was perfect and roses, and you would get jealous of
ex girlfriends because you'd never met them. And you know, I think that
that's pretty common phases in the early phase of our relationship. My husband and
I had been together for fourteen years. We have been through multiple moves,
some of them being across the continents, some being across the Atlantic. We've
had two kids together, we have been through the death of a parent,
we have been through huge career ups and downs. Sometimes I think that those
are those are the big things, are the big things that matter in our
relationship. And I think that when you know, my husband dates a beautiful
woman, if she's bringing a whole bunch of joy and energy into his life,
that sometimes I may or may not be able to provide, then that's
great. That gives him, That gives him more more in his life,
and the same way for me and I feeling that there's a woman listening right
now that goes I could use a night off. Oh yeah, which sounds
funny, But here's this is This is why I'm in it. Sorry,
I'm gonna cut you off really quick on this ride. This is this is
the thing that I currently love about being an open relationship. I love my
kids to death day. I feel so fortunate to be their mom. I
love my husband. But our lives are really entangled. We have financial obligations.
I cannot imagine a date that we've had that we didn't at some point
in time talk about logistics and our savings goals and career kids, kids,
college funds and college job. I mean, our lives are so deeply entangled
that when I get to go on a date with another guy, there's none
of that. We're talking about books and movies and trips and travels, and
I mean it is a mental vacation that is just really wonderful and invigorating.
And I mean, in some ways I get to be like the non mom
like hot woman version of myself that as much as I try, you know,
it's a little harder to be with your husband like you watch. All
right, Actually that makes a lot of sense. What you just said makes
a lot of sense. But what happens if you fall fall in love with
someone else? Is that possible? Yeah? I have that's a beautiful thing.
Sure it is. I agree, I mean, but that does it
make bill? Why do they use the word love broadly? How many people
do you love in your life? Uh? Well, it depends, right,
I guess there would be different kinds of love I have, I too
have children, and then my both my parents are still alive. I have
siblings, and uh, and then there are others, right, then there
are others. Yeah, sure, so how does that that work? But
if you have such a deep relationship with your husband, where you've gone through
things, things that have really connected the two of you, you bonded,
like you said, Uh, how does that play with someone else? Could
you wind up with someone else or does it always sort of just more surface?
And everybody kind of knows this is just sort of a fun release.
I don't. I don't. I don't know if that's a fair thing to
say or not. I don't want to change. I don't know if you
can control these things. Yes, you know, I don't think monogamy protects
people from their partner falling in love with someone else. But I do think
that the love that I have felt for the other people that I've that I've
fallen in love with is different. You know, It's not the same love
that I have for my husband. The same way the love that I have
for my kids is differ than the love that I have for my parents.
I would say I love my best friend, my sister. I think that
when I've fallen in love with other guys. I don't think it's fair to
say that it was more superficial. But it was different, I think the
best way to describe it it was different. Do you think it helps you
fall deeper in love with your husband in a way and in a sense,
do you have a greater appreciation in love for him after? Absolutely? Yeah,
I can see that, and I can't even articulate it properly, but
I could see where that would totally be the thing, like, I'm so
glad I chose, you know, we chose each other for this, and
thank you for letting me. I don't know sample the smorgasport of life that's
out there. I guess it's a little bit. I don't know. I
love it. I'm a poet. I'm a poet. I don't know if
you knew that as well. I mean it could at least you picked a
good word you didn't use, like buffet. Yeah, that's a little nasty.
Buffets always think of sneak, these guards and fat people. It's just
not my not my thing with that. So all of this for you has
played out on TikTok and people can go watch the series of them. It's
it's at openly committed, right, and Danielle at openly committed Daniel daniellet openly
committed and you find it on TikTok. And it's really an interesting story.
I think the part that if you don't mind me asking about it's sort of
your family and as you talk about the people you love, you know you
have. Was it your mom or somebody if somebody outed you sort of or
threatened out you or I mean, how horrible was that? Why would you
weaponize? Why is it any of their business? Mmmm? Yeah? This
was People go through different things. I had a family member who you know,
this person was dating someone that no one in the family approved of.
Oh, and this person also knew that I was in an open marriage,
and you know, didn't feel like And I think one of the things that
happened is my parents said to you know, I said to this person,
oh, look at Danielle and Rich's marriage. It's just so wonderful. It's
fantastic. And then I think in their mind they were fuming. It's like,
you don't know what's really going on. And I think that that was
really frustrating for this person. I ended up my husband and I ended up
sitting down with my parents and telling them about our open relationship, probably a
little sooner than I would have liked to them, I would have personally been
ready, and it was more that we were kind of going through a bit
of a transition phase in our open relationship. But by at the same time,
we'd been open for almost eight years at this point, so the tough
questions I was I was able to answer. And going back to the TikTok
comments, I mean, when you get mean question, when you get hard
questions on TikTok, they're you know, and I think so when strangers ask
me like, oh, what does this mean for your kids, you're ruining
you know, you're ruining your children's lives. He really he doesn't really love
you. This isn't commitment. When you're hearing it from strangers on the internet,
it's one thing. When your parents ask you those things, it is,
it's really it's a whole different ball. Again. It's really hard,
and I was lucky that I could answer a lot of those at that point
in time. Yeah, because it's like the analogy. If I called you
up and said I'm never going to speak to you again. You don't know
me, you wouldn't care. But if someone you loved said that to you,
you'd be heartbroken or you'd be very distressed about it. And when it's
your parents, you know what are we always trying to get our parents' approval
in some way? So I thought that was to me. I was like,
wow, this that TikTok goos the one that sucked me in. I
don't know if that was the first one I started, it was the one
that got me because I went, Okay, this is a real life situation.
And how you know, we hear about these things and people fantasize maybe
a little bit, but there's a real life side to it, and you're
going to be and you're gonna be judged by those who you may hold in
the highest esteem yourself. And no one wants to have their parents sort of
judge. So how did that? Obviously it went okay? Uh, I
mean, what are we how we're gonna find? Okay? My my parents
live in small town Texas. My mother is deeply religious. Yeah, and
I will I got to give my mother credit. She's incredible and an incredible
woman. When we first told my parents that my husband and I were in
open relationship, it was it was really tough for them. They asked a
lot of questions. They asked a little of really hard questions, and then
they kind of said, we don't want to hear about this ever again.
And so for a couple of years we didn't talk about it. It was
just it was the white elephant, and it is a white elephant. It
was the elephant in the room. Yeah, and then I think when I
started the TikTok a couple of years ago, ephants don't see color, so
don't worry about Yeah, you have multicolor. It's a rainbow. It's definitely
a rainbow elephant. It's a rainbow elephant. Yeah. A couple of years
ago, when I started the TikTok funny story, I had a family member
find me on TikTok, loved absolutely all of my content and gushed to my
parents about how helpful my content had been for her and her husband. And
this person is my parents' age, and all of a sudden, all was
a mom and I were like, okay, not for us, but maybe
it's not so bad. Oh, so that helped. I think that helped.
And I think time really is the thing because my parents have seen how
happy my husband and I are, how great our kids are. Really proves
it. You never answered a question earlier when I said, what do you
do? Are you a therapist of some kind? I am not a therapist.
I am an aspiring author. So two years ago I wrote my first
book. I shopped it around to every agent I could find. I got
zero interest, And I think I get to announce this yet. I have
my first book coming out, so I'm really excited. Yeah, it's still
long ways away. It will come out hopefully February twenty twenty six. So
you're like, it's still got a ways but I've got my publishing deal and
I get to say I'm an author. Now that's awesome. Congratulations, that's
really great. And then the TikTok stuff. I only bring this up because
you said TikTok paid for this Disney trip. It did, and that's just
from people watching your content. You've become that big on TikTok, so I
receive less. It kind of comes and goes. So I definitely don't make
a ton of money on TikTok. I think I'm about I mean, I
make about two thousand dollars a month on TikTok at the moment. It's not
huge. And then I do other things. So on my website, I
host events. I have a course that I that I've offered, which is
called a Couple's Guide to Opening Up to with the I yeah, it's all
my website. It's all linked to my TikTok uh Instagram. Okay, so
people can find you on TikTok and Instagram. Danielle at openly committed and then
openly committed across the board on all my social media channels, and then it's
opencommitment dot com. And then I'm still kind of figuring out what is the
most helpful to people. So I have like a booklist and book recommendations everything
on different types of relationships to getting getting jealousy. I host an event usually
around managing jealousy once a month and it's just kind of a nice place for
people to hang out and be like, oh my god, this made me
so jealous when my partner did this. I share some of our stories more
on Instagram Stories. I'm I share a lot more behind the scenes and what
I'm working on on Instagram Stories. But to answer your question, so TikTok,
I also get I have a hair I have two hair brands that sponsored
me, which is still wild. Like now when people ask me, they're
like, oh, what do you do, I'm like, I'm a hair
model, obviously, because that's the best answer I've got I had in my
entire life. I worked in marketing for twelve years before before trying to become
an author. So what made you pick up the camera the phone one day
and go, I'm gonna tell our story. It's all my husband's fault,
and he was originally in some of the videos, so I wanted so again,
going back to wanting to be an author. In my head, I
was like I want to. I really want to write a book. I
have these ideas. I want to tell parts of our story. And he
was and I was like, I'm going to make a blog. I'm going
to write a blog, honey. And he's like, what is this like
two thousand and eight, like, what are you doing? Go on TikTok?
Yeah, oh and man, it caught five. Did you ever think
it would be this big? Because I have to think, in addition to
the negative comments, you got to get asked out. You got to be
proposed not proposed to, but people have to propose dates to you. The
number of sugar do out of your requests I get is discuss and they're all
bots. They're all bots. They're not real. I don't know. I'd
be afraid to find out for real myself. That's so sure. I want
to that that is a TikTok video. I have not done yet. I
have not had enough guts to respond and record the whole thing. You're like,
oh, hey, am you well, this has been a fascinating conversation
for me. I would love to have you back some time to do a
follow up. I think the book thing is great. Congratulations on all that,
and please follow. I didn't know you were on Instagram as well,
so I want to check that out, the behind the scenes stuff and all
the helpful things you're doing for people. And look, I don't think you
get better affirmation than someone telling your parents, who are your parents' age,
that you help their marriage through your content. Right that's the that's the best
sales you can get. That's it right there. And that family member is
it's she did become so close because of it. It just means the world
to me. Good, Oh, very good, Well, thank you for
your time much Bill. This has been fun. Well good. I'm glad
and I told you it wasn't. I just had a lot of I see
this stuff and I go, boy, this is amazing. And usually there's
even a woman who will join me on the podcast who I know what is
good to be jealous that she wasn't here for this conversation. So I may
have to have you back sometime because she's always intrigued by this sort of thing
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I always, uh, this is like maybe my favorite Zeppelin so oh
yeah, yeah, just like the acoustic. I always thought Jimmy Page played
a really nice acoustic rights so much deeper than Stairway to Have and yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it was all the radio friendly
stuff, right, that was the big thing I had to do. Uh.
I was never a big Zeppelin guy. I've come to appreciate it.
I put Zeppelin for me is similar to the Grateful Death. And I say
it this way. Why I say that, you wouldn't associate the two together.
They were jammed down my throat. When I was a kid, everybody
listened to the fucking Grateful Day. I couldn't get away from the Grateful Day.
It was grateful Day, grateful grateful Da and Bob Dylan. Right,
So I used to joke on the radio Bob Dylan's overrated. People would go
fucking insane. But I'm like, you don't understand. Like it was like,
you know, Bob Dylan was hey man, he was in Woodside because
the band was Bob Dylan in the band right, and they were such reverend
like there was such reverence for them and they would be around. So when
I started in radio, I was nineteen. They did something called Riverfest right
along the Hudson River and they used to have a mobile home that they would
pull behind, and it was you could broadcast. It looked like a jukebox,
and then the center it was like a broadcast thing and they had some
speakers and stuff. And so the band was coming in and they were late
to come. They were going to play this river fest and then they were
going to be interviewed on the radio. Whatever happened, they were running late
to the guy shift ends and now I'm on and I'm nineteen, and they
go, hey, the band's coming in, and you got it. I
go, I'm not doing it. And they're like, come on, I
go, I ain't doing it. Why I go, look, I know
who the band is. I'm familiar with who they are. I don't know
enough. I can't ask. I can't do an interview with these guys in
nineteen I'm gonna sit across from levon Helm and go, it's gonna it's gonna
be the Chris Farley Saturday Night Live sketch. You want that on your fucking
airways? Should let me go? So I somebody else came in. I
absolutely refused, and I did it more. I did it because I didn't
want to embarrass myself, but I also did out of respect for the band.
I thought that this is gonna be awful. You don't want to be
interviewed by a nineteen year old kid who wasn't around for your biggest time,
right, yeah, exactly so. And then when I say Zeppelin, I
wound up doing like afternoon Drive on a rock station, and I really just
like talking and I didn't like, didn't care about the music, and they
maybe do get the letout, so it's night after night. But I once
I got deeper into Zeppelin and I and they let me pick some of this
stuff. I loved it when I got deeper into it. But again it
was one of these things where I'm like, all right, I could take
a break from Zeppelin, like I could take a break from the Dead or
Dylan, because you know, for ten years of my life it was just
jammed down my throat. I'd get on a hill with you about the Bob
Dylan thing. I never I went to see him, and him and Tom
Petty in concert. Oh wow, who could you understand better? Yeah,
right, exactly to Mumble, and by the way, to me, it
was Love Traveling Willberry's Love the Traveling Willberries, and both those guys were in
it. That's true. Yeah, I love that band, and I've come
to appreciate Tom Petty more now that he's gone. I like some of his
deeper stuff, and I really really liked him, and he was very good
friends with Gary Shandling, the comic. Oh really, there's a great documentary,
and since you're a comedy guy, you should check it out. It's
called The Zen of Gary, and it's really about his whole life, and
he just shows you this guy who you could probably relate to a lot.
You know, works so much so that like his lawn was unkempt and everything
was a mess. And I wound up dying of a hard sixty six.
But never had really stable relationships, love boxing, open his own boxing gym,
and then live next door to Tom Petty, And there's a whole scene
where the two of them are in Petty's private studio shooting the shit and talking
on this documentary. Yeah, it really is cool. And Bob Dylan,
don't get me wrong. I mean there are songs I love. I love
Hurricane about the boxer. I love the way he told his story. Even
when I watched some of the stuff, you know, everything that right now
is getting all the We're very into nostalgia these days, and the whole thing
on We Are the World and seeing Bob Dylan in there, you know,
and trying to hit the notes. But even that I kind of liked it,
and I go, yeah, that was Dylan and you. But it
was just so many others. You I don't know, if I had tambourine
man and blowing in the wind, blow out your ass, you know what
I mean. But there were some other songs I really did love. I
mean, there's note denying is you know, amazing writing ability exactly. Yeah,
yeah, I mean one of the best in rock history. But sure,
yeah, I could take him for fifteen minutes. Well, it's funny
because I yes, and then I'll go see the Stones who were eighty.
But if Dylan were coming around, I go what else he got? Just
so terrible? It's a terrible thing. Well he moved less than Mick Jagger
thirty years ago, Yes he did. He still moved less than Yeah,
that may be part of his longevity. I don't really know. But I
did like the Wallflowers. Remember his son's band, yep, Jacob Dillon.
I liked them. They Yeah, they had a couple one or two hits.
I like albums that I actually listened to the whole thing. I like
some of the deeper stuff. You just looked up the woman I talked to
openly committed and what did you think when you you looked at this? Uh?
I was? I love that? You really don't know what to say?
I thought, I pictured I'm one a little bit hotter than that.
Okay, well see that free like just look like a find it in playing
Jane Fairport Yeah whatever, yeah, right, Yeah. You'd see her at
the you know, the Prorace Isle at and yet she she's the one who's
out there in the yeah, in the forefronting her doing her thing. I
don't know that I could do that relationship. I think I'd be way too
jealous, or it would just be weird, or I just think it's weird.
I would also feel like, and I did say this to her,
like I'm not enough, right, yeah, unless the guy's going out and
doing his own well he is. And she said he brought it up.
I go, of course, so guy's gonna bring it up. She goes,
yeah, but I think more and more women are now too, And
I go, I think most guys, if women goes, hey, why
don't we explore an open relationship, I think your sphincter gets tight and oh
fuck, I'm not enough. Yeah, I mean that's all I could think.
Am I wrong? Yeah, that's probably the first thing. Why why
do you need that? Then on the other side, you're like, fuck,
yeah, it depends excited, all right, I'll tell you. I'll
tell your story. I know a guy in radio who I hadn't decided that
they were going to try an open marriage, and he was swinging and everything
and getting nothing. And his wife had a couple of dates and he got
nothing that would be us way what's like? He was so pissed, and
I think it ended shortly after that. The open marriage experiment didn't go very
far because you know, he wasn't getting any takers. He was he was
trying and trying and trying, and you know, once you're out of the
game for a while, I'd be lost out there. Well, I think
there's this woman said there were dating apps and things for openly. Yes,
yes, yeah, so you can go out and you know, and I
think I think I think your spouse writes you a letter of recommendation. Really,
did you imagine that's the rule of the that's the rule of the website,
right, your profile recommendation? Right, Well, I think that's always
been a thing. Like some people were always saying, if your exes wrote
your dating profile, what would they say? Kind of thing? You know,
what would they what would they say? I don't, I don't.
I don't really know. But it is weird because I you said earlier the
type of people that swing are, what kind of people? Ugly? Piece?
Yeah, it is, and you know, reminded me. I'm a
nice guy. I don't like calling people ugly. Maybe less attractive people,
maybe people that don't just go out to the club and pick up like that.
Right, right, there's a uh so, I don't know what's It's
funny because I hit uh Ryan Seacrest story. I used to follow while I
was in radio. We were working for the same company and we knew a
lot of the same people. So I just want to find following him on
social media. And today I see that probably on to show sometime this week.
Lenny Kravitz is gonna be on. Well, Lenny Kravitz was just in
the news. Do you know why? Probably an openly committed relations no celibacy
for nine years? Ah yeah, And I go, only good looking people
can do that because no, seriously, Like like if somebody who is like
a big, fat, you know, swinger looking type person that you're saying
about, they came in and go, yeah, man, I've been celibate
for nine years ago. No, no one wants to fuck you. Right,
you could tell me yoursel of it, but nobody wants to fuck you.
It's only pretty people that get to say that they've been celibate for nine
years because you can't imagine that nobody's trying to fuck this person. It's you.
You seal that we're not that we're not believing. Uh, you worked
in corporate, didn't you for a while, or you were in charges of
what was the rules about uh dating at work? Were there any dating rules
at work? Yeah? You couldn't date anybody that either was a report above
you or report below you. And then it was you know, frowned upon
the Yeah, date in your core working community, you know what I mean,
just because the trauma. But it wasn't it wasn't uh you know,
outlawed or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, against policy, but
you definitely couldn't be with somebody that you answered to or that reported to you,
which seems pretty typical. Yeah, I mean, and you could disclose
it. You know, they would have these uh uh what do you call
them? I forget now, man, I've been out of it only a
few years. I'm sorry exactly. But you'd fill out a uh you know,
you basically just write it out and send it to the loss prevention say
I'm you know, I'm banging Michelle in accounting, and then tell you right
back, Oh, how good is it? How did you like it?
You like it? I always asked, because in radio it was very ancestral.
Everybody was pretty much banging everybody, and the sales people had bigger personalities.
They were fun, they were attractive, you know, more women than
men, and so you know, as a radio personality, you get your
big swinging dick microphone going and you know, and they sort of got the
job too, which would be you know, you're out and this and that.
It just was kind of a lifestyle thing. So I certainly I married
somebody who worked in radio, and I had dated prior to that people working
in radio. But I bring this up because BP, the oil company British
Petroleum, had that big problem back in September where the CEO, who had
been there for four years. I guess it was out of that he had
a relationship with someone in the company and before he became CEO, it was
known, or at least rumored, that he was promoting women that he had
relationships with, which is exactly why they don't want you to do it,
right, His little favorite to that cool. So now this one is a
little straight because of that, BP has decided that you have three years to
disclose any relationship you had with anybody at work or risk being fired. So
what they're saying like they didn't want a family. Let's say it was a
son in law or that kind of stuff. Would you be nepotism, right,
we fall that on nepotism stuff and scrutism where you're banging her. I
guess I don't know what it's called. But yeah, so this guy,
he was accused of all that stuff. But then according to new thing they're
saying that you have. I think they said three years to disclose. The
former boss was accused of promoting women. Yep, here's December. The tightening
the contact rules because of his stuff reportedly required the staff to disclose all sexual
relationships and even friendships they had with colleagues within three years. You have three
years to do it. So here's my thing, like, how are they
going to prove? So if I don't disclose, and someone who worked under
me and I did have let's say, short little dalliance nothing, you know,
maybe we're both single, went out, maybe there was travel involved.
You're out, everybody goes to dinner, and the next thing, you guys
lingered a little longer, and something happens, and I decide I'm not disclosing
that because it was no big deal and I didn't get nothing came of it.
But she comes back and goes to them by the way, and then
goes and I have pictures and and I have the napkin that he wrote his
room number down on. What what then, I mean, then you could
definitely be fired. Yeah. I don't like this gotcha. I think I
don't like the gotcha world we live in. I don't think that's a good
thing by BP. I think they just need to set the policy to make
it clear going forward. Yeah, which right here, says. A representative
for BT told Fortune magazine that on June first, the staff will be forced
to disclose personal relationships, whether or not they feel they represent a conflict of
interest as part of the policy going back three years. Jesus, Yeah,
I mean transparent. What if you forgot what if you got so if you're
not a single dude, what if you are a married guy? Wow,
and you had a little uh yeah, little so and so while you're out
on a business trip. You were openly you were openly committed, but your
wife didn't know you're openly committed exactly. Then you got to put that in
the doc. Think you can ruin people's Yeah, you can really ruin people's
lives financially and everything. Right, someone hears that, it seems like a
stretch man. I don't know. Yeah, it does seem like a stretch.
I would say, you're probably better. What do they say, don't
stick your don't uh, don't ship where you eat was the crude way of
saying it. Don't put your pen in the company in goes the other one.
Exactly, yeaxactly. I don't know comedy the world comedy's probably I mean
again, I'm I got it made, man. I'm happily married, and
you know, I'm no saint by any stretch, but I have no desire
to try to fucking hook up in comedy world anybody. Now, you don't
You don't want to? Huh, I don't want to. You definitely don't
want to. No, because the other thing is like having that stability and
that person and that see that. That was the thing that was weird with
the conversation with Danielle was that, you know, she's saying things like,
we went through the death of an adult parent, like one of their parents.
I don't know it's hers or his. Uh, we went through that,
We went through career changes, ups and downs. That those are all
the things that you sort of become the foundation of your relationship. Doesn't you've
been married for thirty years, that becomes sort of your your story together.
Nobody else shares those that to me when we talk intimacy, that ship,
to me is actually the real intimacy of life. Anybody can fuck, but
you know, to put it crasslely. But the other stuff is the standing
by somebody when they're really down, or lifting them up, or making sure
that person's sick or you know, whatever's going on. You know, Barbara
at work has been driving me gutting for my job and I'm really stressed out,
and you're helping sort of strategize. That's the intimacy on how to you
know, bulletproof yourself at work. Then this this other stuff, and I
go, I don't know how you get that with someone else while you're with
that person, unless you're just going with the cold hearted sex on the outside.
Well, I mean that that could that could be it. They're just
the raw dog, just I mean, you're just an animal. Oh my
god, put on a water buffalo cap and we're going to town, honey.
But even there, think of this, Think of this. Think of
any women who have said I was nervous to be naked in front of you.
I was, you know what, I mean, I feel like my
body's flawed in some condition, and and you're just you're willing to just go
hunting peck for any hunter peck. I don't get it, man, I
don't know. Yeah, I don't either. I can't The swinging thing,
I don't get. I mean, you know, in a single world,
people are banging left and right there. Yes, you know, getting naked
and fucking. Yes, that's true. You know you go that way.
But I just think that after a while, you know, when you find
that person. I don't know, it just seems weird. I don't know
that I could even. I think I turned into a soy hot dog down
there, and I wouldn't be able to do I wouldn't be able to perform.
After Joey test nuts in the water and I got my chestnuts and nothing's
working right, and I'm embarrassed. I got that there goes. It's not
working, that we're not working because in my head I'm thinking of her,
I'm not thinking of what's right on top of me with you. Yeah,
you know that's it. Well, nice conversation, but BP, it's gonna
make you disclosed. Hey, you don't want to work for BP? If
that's the thing. Nah. I mean probably they're not the only ones,
but I've never heard of going back three years. That's a stretch man.
Yeah, I mean, you know, an email circulated BP's intimate relationship that
we're a face the door to avoid an embarrassing repeat of the CEO for HIBS
employees. When we got that, forty five hundred managers have been given three
months. Oh, I thought it was three years. Have been given three
months to report all intimate relationships they have engaged in the last three years.
You've got three months. You've got ninety days. Motherfucker. So does his
managers, though not everybody, forty five hundred managers, right, not everybody
in the company. So forty five hundred managers. You know what, I
feel like, somebody's sitting there writing a book going I knew it, and
I fucking knew it. I knew those two were fucking it. Now I
got back. I'd love to know how many of those forty five turn in
like a list of ten. Yes, you know what if you just made
it up at one time, bought Sheila lunch just because we were standing in
line. Now, I was just trying to be polite, you know,
could you make it up. Could you find the hottest person on your staff
and go, yeah, banger nine months ago or vice versa female, you
get a hot eye in your staff, right, maybe you know, just
just for bragging rights, because if you put it down and you don't tell
that person you put it down and it was a couple of years ago,
and you just make it up, you go yeah back in twenty twenty one.
Uh, okay, nailed them. I did him. I did them,
But then I told him that's not gonna get that, get you.
That's not quite good enough. So I wonder if anybody will pad this to
say they, you know, just pad their bang their body count, just
lie. But really hot people from VP. I don't know if there are
hot people at VP. I'm just saying you got to pick the hottest one
on your staff and say you did it all right. June twentieth, we're
gonna be doing comedy at Remedy. It is at Finger Lakes Casino and Racetrack.
It's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Come on down, get
the weekend start, Get the weekend started early. And Greg has been kind
enough he's gonna headline the show. Dougie Phelps myself. We'll do the podcast
earlier that night. There there'll be drink specials. Come on in. It
is open to the gaming floor, so we'll be competing with a couple of
slot machines and things. But I think we're gonna have a great tom It's
a really nice room comedy withling in that bag, nothing at all, not
at all. Every if you land your joke right, jackpot, jackpot.
That's that's the way I look at it. But it will be a lot
of fun and I hope to see everybody there. And uh, Greg is
very funny and you will enjoy him. And certainly Doug has said that your
headlining said just killed. So I'm glad. We can't wait. Good night
June twentieth. It'll be a Thursday night, just a week from this Thursday.
Actually, oh my man, I know time is flying along there,
flying along. Any other gigs you got before that, Les, I'm in
a restaurant in oswego next week, good warm up and then the Italian Club
in Geneva, Italian American Club in Jeva twenty eighth, the twenty eighth,
so right after that, all right, good for Greg going t I'm Bill
Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.