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Comedy of the Carlston proudly welcomes to
hilarious Jeffer Curry this Thursday, Friday and

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Saturday night. I want to open
up by saying, I actually just went

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through a breakup. Me and my
girlfriend broke up because she was cheating on

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me and I didn't want her to
do that. But the good news is

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me and my mom are back together. So thank you. Yeah. Yeah,

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I say that because my mom called
me every day after the breakup with

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a different mom quote you know them, every day with everything happens for a

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reason. Time heals all wounds.
And eventually she started running out and I

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could tell because after two weeks she
was like, dance like no one's watching.

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That does not pertain to me at
all. Mom? Are you just

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walking around a Michael's reading stuff out
loud? You've seen jeff on The Light

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In this episode, our friend and
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our comedy caravan at Remedy Inside,
Finger Legs, Gaming and Racecrack on June

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twentieth. Hope to see you there, he joins, and he's a dad.

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I'm a dad. We talk a
little Father's Day three years ago.

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The kids all chipped in together and
they brought me a gift basket for Father's

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Day, which at first glance had
had a box of cheerios and a thing

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of Oreos, and I'm like,
what the heck is this? And then

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as I look deeper, it was
loaded with Eddi's and pre rolls, and

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they hooked me up with a nice
little weed gift and the shit to take

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care of the month He's go with
Joey Chestnut is out of the fourth of

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July Nathan's famous hot dog eating contests, and it's all because he is a

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deal to represent impossible foods. We
talked to our friend Sam from Project Lean

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Nation about these impossible foods, No
you andjust too much of it and men

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can grow Tip And the lady I've
been wanting to talk to for a while,

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Danielle from Openly Committed. Our lives
are so deeply entangled that when I

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get to go on a date with
another guy, there's none of that.

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We're talking about books and movies and
trips and travels. I mean, it

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is a mental vacation all that.
And Mark coming up right after this road

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City driving could be a really cool
thing to do with dad Father's day weekend.

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That's right to drive in his back
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and they've got first run movies and
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Bad Boys and Inside Out. It's
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team up again for Bad Boys and
then the hilarious Inside Out. It's a

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great double feature. It's at Rose
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more at roseitiedrive in dot com right
there at Newark. Little throwback, a

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little fun something different with Dad at
Rose City drive in for Father's Day weekend.

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Deli and East Rochester was always over
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It's nice. Um, I'm gonna
put the camera on you, Greg,

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but not Oh nothing's working right so
earlier I don't know what happened. I've

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had a day where I've wrestled.
It's like been an alligator wrestled with technology

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all day. Nice. All my
shit was filling up, so I spent

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most of the day deleting videos and
trying to move stuff to Google Drive.

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And then it's not moving to Google
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have no idea what's going on.
Then it's not freeing up much space.

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So there's like, you got sixty
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sixty two point three nine. But
I've taken everything off this fucking thing.

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I was ready to launch it right
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I had an interview which I will
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woman who's openly committed. And you
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committed in a little bit, but
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Openly committed. It means you're married, but you get to fuck other people.

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Interesting. Yes, it's like not
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on dates. And there is something
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fascinating. And I think that if
your wife, how long were you?

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How long have you been married?
We're going on thirty years, okay,

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thirty years. I think that'll be
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committed, So openly committed will be
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admitted. So she but here,
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she and her husband go on dates. It's always about they have kids that

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are ten and seven or something like
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like, you know, their college
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other projects are coming up at the
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like a business meeting, which I've
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and you can probably write that's when
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your date night. Did you do
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your wife have a date night?
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in front of the kids. In
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a lot of stuff that has to
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What she said is when I get
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this is interesting. She goes,
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I'm not talking about things that are
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some anxiety attached to them, and
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this? What are we going to
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go out on a date, I
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movies or things that interest me.
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hot version of myself, and I
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you every fucking woman that hears that
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in a way to an extent,
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just you know that that what do
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know, the butterflies on you initial
hookup and shit like that. So it

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becomes one of the swear why you
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thing is that like to me and
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while, I'm actually gonna just stop
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I tried to do this interview and
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never done a Google hangout or a
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called. So and it's like zoom. So I did it through the computer,

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but I was trying to do it
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now it's not recording to the iPad. Yeah, that's all that stuff.

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And this is great because I spent
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like three decades, and I had
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go, hey, man, I've
been checking out the podcast. I really

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like it. How great is that
you get to say what you want,

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You can talk to you want to. I heard you even say like you

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love having the rotating people around the
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a little more serious. Sometimes you
do one on ones and I go yeah,

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and they're like, it's got to
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fucking off till something breaks, because
everything's on you. Everything comes out of

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your pocket, everything's on your ass. You want to be the boss.

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Hey, how about it? Here? It is this Life on your Rules?

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Right, this is Life on your
Rules? Speaking of that. June

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twentieth, Yeah, that's a Thursday. It'll be Fingerlakes Gaming and Racetrack at

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Remedy from seven to nine. It'll
be myself, Dougie Fresh and headlining will

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be Greg Owen. I'm excited for
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a really good show because I was
thinking, like, you know, Doug's

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always like a have you seen Doug. Doug sent me a video of him

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practicing in his home where he actually
plays the intro music. So he was

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doing your show. So he sent
me his practice video of getting ready for

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your show, and he actually played
the intro music like they do at the

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club, And so he had the
guns row this thing and he does the

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whole thing. And then as he
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there's some piece of laundry on the
floor, so he flips that over his

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shoulder out of the I couldn't stop
laughing. But he goes full on to

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do that. When you're getting ready
for a show, do you do a

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full on? And I may have
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I'm repeating myself. Yeah, not
that detailed. I I just run the

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lines in my head. Yeah,
talk my talk to myself. I'd be

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sitting in a chair doing it.
Sometimes I get up and move around to

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practice my stage movements a little bit. Yeah, but I'm not super I

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don't do a lot of moving around
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I just kind of run it through, you know, Yeah, just rehearse.

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I always think that the one thing
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just being natural, right, which
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on stage. But if I think
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ease, oh yeah, absolutely,
you know, if you're if you come

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in a little tight, they're gonna
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back. They'll pick up on it
on some of the stuff. Yeah,

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exactly. And I think what they
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way, then they think you're probably
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like you to be, exactly,
So they're not gonna be on board with

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you, and they're not gonna know. And a tight audience isn't fun.

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good MC just kind of isn't necessarily
doing a ton of material. They're just

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working that they're almost massaging the crowd
into Hey, tonight's the night that you're

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on date exactly that that bitch across
from you, fellas, you don't know

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her right right, you're trying to
get in her pants? Kid, But

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that would that would be the thing. You have kids, correct? Yeah,

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they're all growing up now? Yeah? Four kids? Yeah? You

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have four kids? Holy shit?
I had three. Uh my youngest is

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fourteen but lives with his mom.
But my older guys are in their early

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twenties. Uh, but you have
four father's days coming up? Oh yeah,

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yeah? Do you look forward to
this? Is there anything you like?

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Was it ever a big deal to
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deal? No. I think the
best one in recent history was about three

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years ago. The kids all chipped
in together and they brought me a gift

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basket for Father's Day, which at
first glance it had a box of cheerios

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and a thing of oreos, and
I'm like, what the heck is this?

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And then as I look deeper,
it was loaded with eddies and pre

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rolls. They looked me up with
a nice little weed gift and in the

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shit to take care of the munch
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it was freaking esthetic. That is
really funny. Yeah, that is really

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How old are the guys or the
kids? Youngest is twenty two, okay,

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so yeah they're old enough, old
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got with the legalization of weed and
bringing kids up? Did you did they

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know? Did you smoke when they
were No? Not you did it?

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And I basically gave up smoking.
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thirty, yeah, which is went
about when we started having kids, and

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really never dabbled in it until just
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years. And really, it fucking
wipes me out. Well, it does

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me I always feel like, now
do you almost need a restrictor plate on

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some of the weed. And they've
got these fucking wild names like Patama Red

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and blue Jack Green. I don't
know something. Have you gone into a

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dispense I have not gone into a
dispensary. People have given me gummies and

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things, but I have not.
I've not been to one anywhere. I

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went to one in LA when we're
out and visiting our daughter a couple of

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years ago. And uh, it
was interesting, man, because he had

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there was a security guard outside the
shopping ball. You had to check in

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with him, Yeah, show your
ID. Then you go in and the

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door to the place is locked,
and they got other security guys standing outside

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the Yeah, and then you gotta
they scan your ID and you gotta give

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you feel like you're going into a
porn shop. Yeah right. You remember,

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like had a CD bookstore, like
you get away and see to throw

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a corner in the slot and all
that. But then we went into place

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and it was really nice. I
mean it was really great display table with

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the you know, you could like
sniff smell the different weeds, different flowers

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or whatever they call them nowadays,
and just displays all over the place and

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then this kid comes to help us
out and we're like, dude, we've

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been out of the game for thirty
years. We just want to get some

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souvenirs for our druggy kids. Man, what a party gift. Now there's

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a whole housewarming gift that most people
would like. Yeah, usually because my

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kids aren't druggies. Let's clear that
one up. I grew up in such

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a alcohol focused family. Yeah,
I guess that would be. I mean,

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if you're going to talk about drug
I don't think my parents did any

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weed. And I grew up near
Woodstocks, so there were a lot of

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people who did. I remember smoking
a joint with somebody's mom at the high

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school graduation party. But that wasn't
my parents. They weren't boot big time.

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Yeah, but yeah, people Irish
people, right, and that was

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a big deal. So then my
mother is seventy six. So when she

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was seventy five, she went to
visit my brother in Maine, and they

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went to somebody's house and somebody whipped
out a bunch of gummies and they're like,

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hey, try this, try this
in So my mom pops one in

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her mouth and my brother calls me
later and goes, hey, wat's this

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and she's just laughing, laugh at
her ass off had a great time.

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So of course everybody finds out right
that she did this, everybody being my

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dad. Now they were married for
like thirty five years and then separated,

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so my father has been on this
kick. He's seventy eight. I want

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to try one of those gummy bears. I really want to try those gummy

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bears. And I'm going, yeah, you're seventy eight and you live alone.

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Just wait till someone's around, because
I don't know what who knows.

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I'm not saying that you can't handle
it, but I don't want you to

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try to handle it. Tricky drug
for an old dude. I think it

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is even at five milligrams. I
think it is. I mean, unless

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you're Willie Nelson or Keith Richards.
Fucking back off a little bit. So

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he says to me, he just
recently goes, I made a purchase that

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I'll never use, and I go, okay, yeah, So I go,

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what is this? He told me
that he went to a dispensary and

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he described it much like you.
And he lives in Jersey, going through

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double security all this stuff. He
kind of felt almost like a criminal or

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he didn't know what was happening.
And he goes, yeah, so I

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bought some gummies. I haven't had
any, but he and I understand this,

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and it must be something that I
don't know if it's a learned or

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an inherent thing, but I'm gonna
go with inherent, because it was always

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like, I don't need to do
it, I just need to know I

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can. You know what I mean, that's what my old man said.

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He goes, I don't care that
I don't need to do it. I

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just need I just like knowing that
I can do it. But I can

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go by it. But I would
love to see my old man stone before

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you, just because he's so funny. If you now, I've learned the

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difference. And I didn't even know
this growing up. I just remember getting

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high and laughing a lot. But
it was usually some I mean, it

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was probably some dirt shit that somebody. I had a buddy who used to

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throw twigs. Yes, yes,
you're right, but I had a buddy

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who grew pot in between the cornstocks
of a local farms for real, and

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Uh, Stephen Dam and the I
think it was him. They had uh

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because I grew up in a very
rural part of the state, and you

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know, downstate, it was a
little people were they didn't care as much,

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you know, pot brownies eating.
I had a teacher tell us about

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you, if you're gonna smoke it, smoke it through a water bond because

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the joint gets so hot the heat
could melt the rosin on a roach clip.

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So he's like, you don't want
that heat in your lungs, so

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drink, you know, do that
or eat it. Well. Edibles weren't

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what they are now, and I
do enjoy edibles. And I was telling

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you because you came in and a
friend of mine was on the phone and

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I said, I happened to be
down at their lake house and I passed

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out some because I was drunk and
high. It's just, you know,

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I call that Saturday. It happens. It happens when you're eighteen, nineteen

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twenty, not fifty two. It
just shouldn't be happening now, at least

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not as often. You know,
you're not. You're waking up in strange

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place. It's not a good not
a good sign. I got a plant.

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I'm gonna do an eddie. I
got to plan a day around it.

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Yeah, what what did? Do
you have a milligram that you like?

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Uh? Like dosage? Cause,
oh, I got these ten milligram

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things. I always cut those in
half because I'm a pussy. They hit

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pretty good. Yeah, I like
them. But I my one son gave

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my wife for Mother's Day. This
sounds like a great family if he gave

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her these things, sounds like an
awesome family. I want to hang out.

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Five milligram ones yeah, and uh, one of them could get you

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going pretty good. Yeah. Last
year at the music fest, I brought

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I had one before we got down
here, and I gave one to my

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wife. I put in a ziploc
bag and suck it in her purse.

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I said, hold on to that. And and you came to the Fairport

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Music Vest. Yeah yeah, and
uh, you know, if I ask

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you for it, then you give
it to me then. So then I

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got the one five milligrams in me, and I'm like halfway through the day

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and I'm like, this is like
nothing nothing, So really I asked her

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for the other one and I ate
it, and literally like a minute later,

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I was like, you know what, I didn't need that second one.

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It takes a while like the edible. I always say, give it

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two hours at least the first one, and then you'll go. And there's

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I've learned. So even growing up
around Weed, I never knew Indica and

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Stativa. I think I'm saying that
right right, the Stativa like is the

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one that makes you laugh. Indica. Ever, I remember having a guy

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from MJ's, which is a dispensary
in Henrietta. I think it was the

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first one to open in Monroe County. Uh, he goes Indica's into Couch's

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out right. You're just you're you're
just done for that. So Father's Day

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maybe again, Maybe this time you
get a plan. I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know. A gift card of some

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kind, right, That was always
the thing I used to love when the

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kids were little because you get all
their arts and crafts and ship and then

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as everybody got older. I don't
know. This year, I feel a

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little bad because I'm going to go
see the stones in Cleveland with my brother.

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Oh nice, father, father to
stay weekend. It's the fifteenth.

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So he's flying in and he's got
two little kids and he's like, eh,

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so his wife's like, oh good, way, I don't have to

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plan anything for father's sake. See
you get a day off? Yeah right,

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all right, so that'll be the
uh, that'll be the big thing.

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I guess A gift card is the
number one thing's dad want, according

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to a survey of a thousand dads. Uh, something food or drink related.

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Right, it's like his beer gift
cards. Gift cards number one,

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and then something food or drinking,
clothing or shoes. I don't want anybody

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buying me that ship. You even
get me the dad grilling shoes, electronics.

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I can see tickets to a concert
or sporting event. Actually, one

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of my sons got me tickets one
year sporting goods. Do you golf or

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anything? I want to start it
up again? I used to and I

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got out of it, so yeah, I wouldn't. Were you good at

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it? I suck? I fucking
sucked, probably sucked. But I thought

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I was good, But I probably
sucked, you know what I mean?

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Like I think I actually uh wrote
forty on nine holes one time. Oh

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that's pretty good, actually, zone
Yeah that was just a yeah nominally you

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know what I mean? That would
never happen again. Never did happen again.

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But uh, and then you know, I haven't been playing much.

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Played a couple of years ago and
then a couple of years before that.

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Last time it was just a disaster. Yeah, but I'd like to take

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it up again, get a lesson
maybe. Well, there you go.

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There's a good thing for Father's Day. Put that word out there. Yeah,

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you know there's some good place to
take lessons. Uh, books or

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music, anything that would appeal to
you. What do you listen to?

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The were not big on gifts.
Just for gifts, you know what I

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mean? Yeah, our family,
but unless it's weird. Uh, unless

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it's a nice it's a big old
bag a weed and Oreole cookies. And

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I'll tell you what, I can't
think of a better stack. When you're

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getting the munchies. Oh god,
damn, you put the fucking weight on

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it. Puts the weight on quake. Those Oreos you got a favorite?

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How about the oriole Blonde? You
have to have those? No, I

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just I'm just a straight, straight
old Oreo guy. Books, your music.

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If I looked at you, I
would go If you said to me,

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I like the dead, I'd go, Yeah, I get it right,

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right? But I mean, what
is it? Am I right?

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Almond? Brothers Dead class Man much. I don't like the Dead that much,

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you don't. I like Little Feet
better? Yeah yeah, and a

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little more upbeat, yeah right?
And uh well Stones, I love the

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Stones. Zeppelin's my all time favorite
class okay, classic rock books. If

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somebody were to give you a book, I can't stay awake for more than

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one page anymore, Legit. I
just read a book and fall asleep.

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Man, I would like to read
Stop Fucking the Animals before you read Jesus.

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I would love to read more,
man, And I just really yeah,

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but I uh, you fall like
in the middle of the day.

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Let's say's two o'clock in the afternoon. You whip out a book, nice

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sunny day, you're sitting out,
your wife's gone out, you got the

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house to yourself. You kick back, You've got some Zeppelin cranking. It's

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windows are rocking, and you're sitting
out back. You go, you know

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what I'm gonna read? Do you
the cigar? Wow? No? Not

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really, but I'm not against it. I just yeah, yeah, I

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don't either. Uh Scotch though,
you ship back more? Just the beer.

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I have a beer. You got
your book and you think you're out

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at two o'clock in the afternoon.
Yeah, a couple of pages love man.

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Yeah, it is something that couldn't
like you just mellow out. No,

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it's not. It's just that man, just totally relaxed and focused in

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on something. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like when you wake up in the

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middle of the night, they say
to get back to sleep, just get

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to get yourself comfortable, to take
some deep breaths and concentrate on one thing.

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Just focus in on it. That's
something that mellows you out and you'll

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go back to sleep quick. But
no one can. I can't do that.

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I can't do that either, going
a million different ways. Yeah,

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I've been I think because I had
two weekends in a row that I was

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just acting like I was thirty years
younger than I am. I I was

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in bed by seven fifty nine Saturday
night, man, but I read to

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like eleven o'clock. I did read, and then I was like, I

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got it, goes. So I
usually take like a magnesium gnate type thing

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to help you sleep, but I'm
out of it. So I took I

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took a like an advil PM and
man, the next day he was like

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waking up with a hangover. I
got the fuck is going on? I

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hate this. I hate this getting
older shit, jewelry for no, Yeah,

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I have nothing smart watch that,
yeah, I don't. I don't

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even have a watch, no rings
anymore because I'm not married. I've got

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no nome. I'm very boring,
very very boring. I don't think I

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think it's just whatever. Yeah,
yeah, I think it is whatever is

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as well. We'll take a moment. There's a little controversy in the world

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of the hot dog eating contest,
Nathan's Hotdogs. You see this, yeah,

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and I think that, Well,
we'll get into it. I'm gonna

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call somebody who has a little more
nutritional knowledge. They own a Lean Nation

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franchised in Canadagua, and she'll be
able to tell us a little bit more

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about these impossible meats, which I'm
not Solvan, I'm not I'm not.

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Okay, good, we're of one
mind on this. Yeah, we'll be

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of mon mind of this. All
right. We will take a moment.

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of my favorite albums of all time
Exile on Main Street from the Stones,

414
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:15,400
and I can't believe they're eighty years
old. It's still still playing stadiums in

415
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,200
the fucking wild and it's crazy.
It is crazy, it really is shape

416
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,039
to me. Yeah, I wasn't
gonna say anything but I know I didn't

417
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,920
know. I have no idea.
I I'm so frustrated over here. I

418
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,519
apologize because now I'm able to record
the videos and the sound it looks like

419
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:36,759
it's coming through, but I can't
get us to go live on any of

420
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:40,440
the platforms. And I don't know
why. And it was whatever I tried

421
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,359
to do earlier today to take this
Google interview with this woman, who,

422
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,799
by the way, I just have
to say this. We're gonna have Danielle

423
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:52,799
from openly committed on and she is
if you look at her, she's like

424
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:56,960
the all American girl. She you
know, like just has that all American

425
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,920
look, red hair, green eyes, but you know, just not really

426
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,319
pretty. And I swear to God, if somebody goes, hey man,

427
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,599
they're openly coming a bit, get
the fuck daddy, it's no way.

428
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,319
There's no way, because I'm thinking, like, oh, I know people

429
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,200
in your right guys talk and somebody
go, hey man, you know they

430
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,559
swing, and you go, I
can see it, right, I can

431
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,920
see it. And I remember somebody
saying to me recently, someone I know,

432
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,200
and this woman came in and she
had her lips injected, and she's

433
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240
a little older and she's got something. You know, the cleavage like,

434
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,759
oh god, the cleavage is as
big as the fucking canal out here,

435
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,359
and it's like you know, and
I go, oh, yeah, yeah,

436
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,440
I see it. I see it. I could see what's happening here.

437
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,640
There's a whole lot of advertising going
on for exactly you know what I

438
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640
mean, a whole bunch of stuff, and not this woman, not the

439
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,880
not the way it is. So
an interesting things has come about with the

440
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:57,480
uh Nathan's hot Dog eating Contest July
fourth. Joey Chestnut has won this every

441
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:02,640
year since twenty sixteen. I think, I don't know how many years totally

442
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,559
he's won, but I know since
twenty sixteen he's been the winner. He

443
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,240
set the world record seventy six hot
dogs and whatever the amount of time is

444
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:14,400
that they do it, and he's
become the name synonymous with this. So

445
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:19,480
they offered him two hundred thousand dollars
I think last year to come, and

446
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,400
then this year they were offering him
like a multi year contract at one point

447
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,240
two million dollars from the National Eating
Association. I don't even know what it

448
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:30,880
is. That's a whole it is
a whole sports league. You're right,

449
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,599
it is. It's a whole sports
league, and he's really kind of the

450
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,119
iron Man of that league, right
winning that contest. And I wouldn't know

451
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Joey Chestnutt if it wasn't for the
Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest. I don't

452
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,079
pay attention to any of these eating
things because it was always on on the

453
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,599
fourth of July, and over the
years it built up momentum. And just

454
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,359
like anything, when somebody's a repeat
champion, you want to see who's going

455
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680
to try to knock him off or
do you cheer the champ on or whatever's

456
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:07,319
happening. So Joey has sensed joined
forces with I think Impossible Dogs. So

457
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:15,759
so it's like the Impossible Burger.
But he's so now he's since he's sporting

458
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,000
another brand and it's Nathan's and Nathan's
pays for this, and you gotta wear

459
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,240
a nathan shirt and you're supposed to
eat the Nathan's dog. They were trying

460
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,920
to meet all his demands, but
they won't do this, and they're like,

461
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,119
you can't be in our contest if
you're gonna be, and he's gonna

462
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,359
you know, it's almost like,
uh, I remember who is the comic

463
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,319
Cedric the entertainer did a did a
gig for Michael Jordan once and he came

464
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,200
out and adida sweatsuit and didn't even
realize it, and he goes all of

465
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,319
a sudden, Jordan's He's screaming at
him from the from the audience, you

466
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,480
know, and he goes. At
first I thought it was a joke,

467
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,240
but he was pretty serious because it
got word got back to me, backstays

468
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,880
and he goes, somebody gave me
like a Nike thing and I put that

469
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,920
on when I went back out,
and he's like, yah, so you

470
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:05,160
get people's I mean, look that
you kind of get right. He built

471
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
a brand. I mean, Jordan
really built Nike. If you especially if

472
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,359
you watch that Netflix show. I
can't say the same for Nathan's with him,

473
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,119
but if they're paying you. So
he's now in bed with his other

474
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,559
company, and I don't know how
much money he's getting paid, he got

475
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,519
to be. It would take a
lot for me to walk away from one

476
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,599
point two million dollars, That's all
I'm saying. Yeah, so they're paying

477
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,319
him one point too just to come
to the just to come eat the hot

478
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,440
dog, be in the contest.
I think it was a multi year deal

479
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:37,599
for him to be in the contest, so it wasn't just one time deal.

480
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,039
Let me see, because it was
all over the the news earlier today

481
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,359
and I have to let me make
it find it real quick, Okay.

482
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:51,720
So yeah, Joey Chuessna out of
the twenty twenty four Nathan's Hot Dog Eating

483
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:57,319
contest in a beef over Vegan Francs. So he's the preential winner, right,

484
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,640
and he has in Bubble Foods,
which recently launched a vegan frankfooter and

485
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:08,680
pottom plants. He is the scene
time winner every year is twenty sixteen seventy

486
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,839
six hot dogs in but he was
expected to take again this year. But

487
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,440
he's not a major league You're right. It is its own league Major League

488
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,720
eating. It's MI I l E
or mL E. Excuse me, which

489
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:29,359
Nathan sanctions to run the event,
said the organization bent over backwards to meet

490
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,799
his various demands. They even agreed
to let him participate in a arrival Labor

491
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,799
Day dog eating fest to be taped
for TV, as long as no hot

492
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,880
dog brand was mentioned. So it
wasn't going to be a Nathan's one.

493
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,519
But he could do that. A
source said Chestnut was paid two hundred thousand

494
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,559
dollars to appear in Nathan's contest last
year and was offered one point two million

495
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:53,799
dollars four year contract going forward.
Why is he I mean it's not bad.

496
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,920
I mean that's more. That's almost
two and a half that two fifty

497
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,279
a year to be in the contest. Yeah, two fifty a year to

498
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,279
fucking eat hot dogs. That's just
one contest? Could one? Yes,

499
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,559
you could? So? Could I
be very nice? That's okay? Uh?

500
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:15,280
Yeah, So he's the Michael Jordan
of competitive eating. But imagine if

501
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,199
Michael Jordan said to Nike, I
love being the face of Nike, but

502
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,199
I want to do commercials for Adidas
too, and uh chestnuts out? How

503
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,440
wild is this? Yeah? So
what are the offering him? Because the

504
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,000
fake meat companies? Oh, I'm
not swimming in cash. I don't think

505
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:35,679
there's I don't know if they are. They aren't. That's a good point,

506
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,400
And I don't know where the marketing's
coming from for that. Uh.

507
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:45,320
I just saw an article today that
said while experts extol the health and environmental

508
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,920
benefits of a diet free of animal
products, new research suggests that consuming ultra

509
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,880
processed vegan food can increase the risk
of heart death. That's what it says

510
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,280
there. Now I want to call
uh. I'm gonna call it woman.

511
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Her name is Sam, and Sam
Uh has a nutrition bodybuilder and knows this

512
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,239
stuff inside. Now, okay,
all right, so yeah, we'll call

513
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,480
Sam and see what what Sam says. Here, give me one. We'll

514
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:25,320
discombobulated because nothing's working. Again.
This is why I don't This is why

515
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:32,679
I always liked radio other people stuff. I didn't have to do any of

516
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:37,119
that stuff. Here we go,
let's see. I just told her ill

517
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:47,239
it. Hello, Hello, Sam, how are you lovely? How are

518
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,920
you well? We were just talking
about our our our friend Joey Chestnut and

519
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,280
the fact that well, first I
should say that Sam is an owner of

520
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,480
a franchise, project Lean Nation,
which does a lot of meal planning and

521
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:06,840
meal prep and is a really great
way for people to get into a better

522
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,599
lifestyle. Would that be fair to
say? Absolutely? Uh? And Sam

523
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:15,320
is also if you follow her on
Instagram, she is just ripping it up

524
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,639
at the gym all the time,
trying to right now, well, yeah,

525
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239
Sam Is, that's true. Sam. Sam Is is pregnant, but

526
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:30,199
she could probably still deadlife more than
I could even try not pregnant, and

527
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:37,800
I may look more pregnant if I
did that. But the Okay, so

528
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,280
this Joey Chestnut thing is is sort
of interesting because we were just talking about

529
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,119
it. He was offered one point
two million dollars to come back for four

530
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:49,320
years. So that's like two hundred
and fifty thousand, right around a little

531
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,119
over two hundred thousand a year,
twenty three hundred, three hundred yeah,

532
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,840
oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,

533
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960
three hundred thousand. See, this
is why I did this, right

534
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,719
exactly, this is why I do
this. I didn't even know what I'm

535
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,599
doing. I can't get the technology
to work tonight. I can't get anything

536
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,320
but this stuff, these impossible meats
and things. I don't think they're that

537
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,840
I read that they're not that good
for you. I haven't talked to someone

538
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,039
with a little more knowledge, but
I suspect you have it in terms of

539
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,960
the knowledge, And what do you
think of these impossible meats? Well,

540
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:29,199
it's a bunch of bullshit in a
casing. So I'm in a casing.

541
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,400
It's a bunch of bullshit in a
casing. So the impossible meats, the

542
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,199
burger patties and the dogs or whatever
the hell you want to call them.

543
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:42,360
It's all highly processed soy, so
they're full of soy. And if you

544
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,960
even pull up the ingredient list of
anything an impossible burger, it's stuff that

545
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,360
people just shouldn't be ingesting, gotcha, you know, And you know there's

546
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,880
no such thing as good and bad, But we go, you know,

547
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,000
through this thing. Like I had
a woman in our store last week and

548
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,760
she was legit mad at us because
they sold meat in our store, and

549
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,000
he was a vegetarian. But you
know, I spoke to my friend Laura,

550
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,360
who's a registered dietitian, and she
goes some of the most unhealthy people

551
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,159
that she works with are vegans and
vegetarians. Some of the fastest people I've

552
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,719
ever known were the ones who wouldn't
meet I will never forget. Now now

553
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,480
I have to be careful because my
sister has been vegan since I thought it

554
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:24,960
was since she was nine years old. She says it wasn't, but my

555
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:35,079
mother just couldn't cook. So I
just tell you things. It was like

556
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,840
over boiled hot dogs like that just
sat in the water and split open and

557
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,239
sat that slimy water. You would
get that with running macaroni and cheese.

558
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,320
And my sister, Yeah, my
sister was so grossed that I think that

559
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,880
she just went and she went in
the opposite direction. Now she stayed with

560
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,639
that to the end. But I've
known other people who, you know,

561
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,960
it's a lot of because you're eating
a lot of well, chips and macaroni

562
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,119
and cheese and cheeses and things like
that, and most of these people aren't

563
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,679
really disciplined, and I think,
honestly are fooled into the fact that while

564
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,320
not I'm eating healthy, I'm eating
I'm vegetarian. It doesn't mean you're eating

565
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,199
vegetables, asshole, it really does. Oh yeah, that's and that's the

566
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,239
thing. It's like, you see
you see a really skinny person who's plant

567
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,559
based, and then you see a
person that's two three hundred pounds eating plant

568
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,199
based because they're ingesting so many carbs, right, and then you know,

569
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,239
so it's the source, getting the
source of protein, you know. And

570
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719
that's what I spoke to Laura about
and she's like, yeah, she's like,

571
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,480
speaking of vegetarians, the only good
source of protein is tofu or tempe.

572
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,000
And then you have the other side
of plant based who are eating tasas

573
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,360
and chips and all this bullshit cookies
and stuff, and then they're like,

574
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,519
oh, I'm super healthy, and
it's like, no, you're three hundred

575
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,960
pounds. It's heart disease. It's
like, what's healthy about them? Well,

576
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,079
here's the thing is, it's funny
because we're living longer. But this

577
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,280
may not be a name you know, Sam, but I bet you you

578
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,760
do, Greg, Jim Fixed.
Remember a guy named Jim Fix? Sure?

579
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,239
And what was Jim Fix known for? He was? He was a

580
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,679
runner. He was a runner.
And what happened, you fix, its

581
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,199
heart attack running which I don't run, which I should not run. Come

582
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,440
on, I don't think it has
I think his diet was bad or it

583
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,519
was high cholesterol. And we're in
a time where like you get into that

584
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:27,800
heart attack age. But nowadays we'll
probably live longer than at least previous generations

585
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,880
because of things like colorectal screenings and
heart disease and cholesterol checks and all this

586
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,079
stuff that we've you know, we've
really learned about to keep this machine running.

587
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,639
But it's also what you're putting into
it. Yeah, and uh,

588
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,239
I think this stuff you say the
soy, and I always thought soy for

589
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:52,039
for men not a particularly good thing
to be ingesting, at least not all.

590
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:53,800
I mean, if you like,
no, you ingest too much of

591
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,079
it, and men can grow tips. And that's just the truth. But

592
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,559
it's you know, there's there's a
good source of story and then it's a

593
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,760
bad source of which is in the
impossible needs. It's just so highly processed

594
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,800
and then they have thickeners and other
chemicals to bind it together, and it's

595
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,800
just it is probably the worst thing
that it's one of the worst things you

596
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,000
can put in your body. But
I mean we put bad shit in our

597
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:22,119
body every day, so we do. I mean that that was always my

598
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,559
look. I think like people would
say to me about the vaccine and I

599
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,440
go, wow, I put a
lot of shit in my body. But

600
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,599
I think that became a I don't
want to be told what I have to

601
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,719
do and don't have to do.
Right. That was full, Yeah,

602
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,199
people's real issue with that. Now
with this though, I think people are

603
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320
looking at it as well. It's
a great alternative. It's better for the

604
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,480
environment. I'm not you know,
if we have less cows, it's less

605
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,039
methane. We're not putting holes in
the ozone layer. I have no idea.

606
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,199
I don't I don't know. There's
so many things that I don't know

607
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,119
about anymore. Both, well,
so many things I don't either. And

608
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,199
I'll just say this. I grew
up in a very rural area and we

609
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,840
used to run through cowfields and we
would take the dried cowshit. It was

610
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,320
like, yeah each other, and
we would whip it at each other.

611
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,519
Oh. Yeah, you grew up
in a rural area too. I grew

612
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:15,039
up in sark Capital. Yes,
that's right, surrounded by cornfields and cornfields,

613
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,320
cabbage and cows. That was it. And we used to take it.

614
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,280
And by the way, will you
tell me this, because nobody agrees

615
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,920
with me. I do not believe
you can actually cow tip. I uh,

616
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:32,960
I never. Do you know somebody
did? I've never. I've known

617
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,719
people who've been me. I don't
know anybody. You have to get quite

618
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,880
a few people on the one side
of a cow, and you have to

619
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,360
get a cow that doesn't move.
Yeah, it works. I mean I

620
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,639
grew up next to a dairy farm
and we used to go over and tip

621
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:52,760
the cows with the owner's son.
Okay, the owner's son. Yeah,

622
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,239
because listen. I could never remember
seeing things and hearing things about I go.

623
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,519
I'm thinking this is a myth.
I don't know anybody who could do

624
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:01,320
it. You can do it,
you have to get enough people on the

625
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,320
one side of the count. Do
they die when they fall over? No,

626
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:12,159
it's like a freaking fading goat.
Now that I have seen, I

627
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,199
have seen. I can't wait.
I will own one of those. When

628
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:21,079
they say the fading goat, Yeah, why are you going to own a

629
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,440
faining goat? Sam? Because I
just want to wake up every morning and

630
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,599
scream at it and it does you
know what? That may some fun on

631
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,920
edibles, yeah right, but that
may be a way to eliminate stress for

632
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,639
your day. You get it all
out the fading goat. You start your

633
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:38,559
day with a good laugh and there
you go. Yeah, what happens to

634
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:42,199
the goat? It gets nervous.
It just shuts down. It's kind of

635
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,519
like when you get punched hard enough, your brain shuts down. You flap

636
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:51,239
it. You know the slapping contest
You've seen those on Facebook right now?

637
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,440
They slap each other. Yeah,
it's hard to take care. It's like

638
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,039
that. You see these people stiffen
up, and that's essentially what it is.

639
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Ah, I haven't seen the slapping
contest with the hand. I've seen

640
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:06,679
it with the like, oh,
you should have a show on that.

641
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,119
No, I see. I don't
get. I don't get that there's a

642
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:14,679
whole I think there's a guy from
around here who I know. There was

643
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:20,000
somebody who's one of the best at
arm wrestling in the country. And then

644
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:23,360
I thought there was somebody who was
a slap champion where they slap each other's

645
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,760
face. It's like a real contest. Yeah, yeah it is. They

646
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,119
stand on each side of the table
and they slap each other. Yes,

647
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,599
it's ridiculous. That looks well.
I'd rather like give me something where I

648
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,039
can I can like move and I
you know, if I step into it,

649
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:40,559
if I go there, if you
fooled me and I step into it,

650
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,760
then that's my fan. But at
least I had a chance. This

651
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,480
is what I don't get. I
am not going to sign up and have

652
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:51,039
somebody just snack me because I want
to. You won't make it count.

653
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,119
If I hit you, thank You's
I would. I would agree with that

654
00:44:54,559 --> 00:45:01,119
as well. Is your husband's still
training people, Uh, we're trying to

655
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:05,320
convince him to go back to training
people. But he's just enjoying being in

656
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,920
the store at the moment and teaching
people this side of health and wellness.

657
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,880
So and it's funny that you called
me because we, like I said,

658
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,320
we had that woman come in who
was very plant based, and you know,

659
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,440
we do have create a few people
that come in and try to argue

660
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,320
us on it. And like I
said, there's there's no such thing as

661
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
like good and bad. It's all
on moderation. It all depends on how

662
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:30,480
active you are, what you're putting
in your body. And yeah, well

663
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:37,400
give me the project. Like Nation's
sort of elevator pitch like it. It's

664
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:43,679
pre planned meals that I can buy
right that has everything I'm gonna need calorie

665
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,239
wise, and if I follow that, look, well the saying is absur

666
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,920
made in the kitchen. Yeah,
so it's you're realistically like if people are

667
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,599
like, oh, I'm going to
go on plant based to lose weight or

668
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:58,559
I'm going to go on keto to
lose weight, you're just cutting calorie if

669
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:02,400
you're in a calorie deficit. So
what our meals do is we provide healthy,

670
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,440
sustainable meals that you know, if
you're looking to gain weight. We

671
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960
have an athlete portion size, we
have a lifestyle portion size, which is

672
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,800
for the average everyday person, and
they average four hundred and fifty calories.

673
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,000
So if you're going to eat three
of those a day, you're already in

674
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,360
a calorie deficit because all of these
meals are portioned out for you and all

675
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,039
you have to do is put them
in the microwave. So what we do

676
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:28,679
is we help guide people. We
give them their calorie and take We ask

677
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,800
them what they're doing for activity,
and if there's somebody that's very sedentary,

678
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,159
we say, hey, we want
you to get up and walk for thirty

679
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,960
minutes to day. We had a
girl sign up, she's a corrections officer.

680
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,760
She in her first month just changing
the way she ate is down twenty

681
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,880
phones. Yeah that's pretty good.
So I mean, yeah, it's amazing

682
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:50,440
for somebody that you know, is
on our feet all day, but they're

683
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,119
not moving as much in the jail. So for her to just change what

684
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:58,920
she eats, you're already going to
cut weight because you're in a calorie deficit.

685
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:02,480
Well, I did one of those
diets that was designed for diabetics,

686
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,199
and then they realized, you know, it's so good. And I did

687
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,960
lose thirty pounds in forty days,
but I was eating five hundred calories a

688
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,159
day or five hundred and fifty calories. Yeah, not sustainable, No,

689
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:20,519
it's not. And then what I
will tell you, though, is that

690
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,480
you lost a lot of like visceral
fat, which is the fat that really

691
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:28,320
slows down, or organs and things
like that. So I slept better,

692
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,280
I felt better, I felt like
I thought clearer. But who can really

693
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,239
tell? Yeah, but what happened
when you started putting food? Like eating?

694
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,719
So I was able to keep it
off for about two years, and

695
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:46,880
then I started introducing my favorite beverages, like getting the liquid. Yeah,

696
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,559
Guinness came back and big times and
you know, eight or nine of those

697
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:57,840
and on a Saturday. But here
was something that was interesting though, And

698
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,679
I'd love to hear your thoughts on
this. So I lost. I'm six

699
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,239
' one two hundreds, probably a
comfortable weight for me, right, I'm

700
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,000
running way higher than that. I'm
down about ten. I've been working at

701
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,639
this, but I got down to
one ninety and I looked to some people

702
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:22,320
like almost emaciated, like too thin. So I'm at some event and people

703
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,079
are going, come on, man, you gotta eat a sandwich. You

704
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:28,800
gotta eat sandwich. So everybody's going
out for a drink afterwards, and I

705
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,920
was drinking like a glass of wine
that was sort of alloud. So I

706
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,480
had a glass of wine and they're
all making fun of me. And I

707
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,719
went home and I'm like, you
know what, fuck it? And I

708
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,559
started. I look in the fridge
and there was a lot of grass fed

709
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,239
beef and all this stuff. So
I grabbed strawberries and a jar of peanut

710
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,079
butter and I go to town with
the peanut butter, dipping the strawberries in,

711
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,719
and I'm having a fucking field day
with this. And I woke up

712
00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:00,000
stam. I was hungover. Yes, oh my god, it's exactly the

713
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,079
word I was going to use.
I had lines in my face. And

714
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,239
it was funny because my mom had
come up. At the time I was

715
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,559
married, my wife was out of
town. My mom came up to watch

716
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:12,280
the kids. And the next one
she goes, oh my god, what

717
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,960
happened to you? I'm like,
what, al bender? It's making out

718
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,599
with a jarr peanut butter. I
was making out with the jar peanut butter

719
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,159
and it's the sugar, right.
I hadn't had sugar. Yeah. Yeah,

720
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:29,079
So we we do a program called
seventy five Hard and it's I think

721
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,039
we talked about it a while ago
and I was back in the office with

722
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:34,760
you guys, and it's two workouts
the day. It's following a diet no

723
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,239
alcohol, no cheat meal, so
posentially no sugar, I mean other than

724
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,800
fruit and no processed sugar. So
I yeah, well I have a big

725
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,320
sweet tooth. And the day seventy
six, I was like, I'm going

726
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,800
ham. I want donuts and I
want cookies. And the next day I

727
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,639
woke up and I was like,
holy shit, did I go out drinking

728
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:00,599
because it's just a large amount of
sugar and I was bloated. It was

729
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,599
bad. So it so it happened. It was interesting to me from that

730
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,159
diet, I realize and that this
will go back to the impossible meat.

731
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,480
I think in a way, we
really poison ourselves with what we eat.

732
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:21,400
Oh yeah, and and strictly from
a lack of knowledge, like what's easy

733
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,360
and convenient is not good, you
know. And it's like growing up,

734
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:30,920
you know, we ate the boiled
frank ballpark ballpark franks whatever they were called,

735
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,800
and the mac and cheese craft,
you know. And now it's like

736
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,599
they have all these organic box macaroni
cheese, like, O, hey,

737
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,480
what the fuck is organic about.
It's so powdered cheese that you have to

738
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,960
put milk and butter into. But
it's I don't know, it's just you

739
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,400
know, at this point, I
do eat healthier, and I do try

740
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,199
to get my son to eat healthier. And my husband is very good at

741
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,360
eating healthy. Like the man just
came home a salad bowl or mixing bowl

742
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,639
full of frozen vegetables and a whole
bag of salads. And that's just like

743
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,360
what he'll eat. But you know, into it. Yeah, that's why

744
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:08,960
across from the bar you get to
watch him. Get him on the other

745
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,000
call him a Greek god. He
is. He does. He told me

746
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:20,199
he's not getting fat this pregnancy.
So the last pregnancy he gained some weight.

747
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,719
So he goes, he goes,
shamoo, it's all you. He

748
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,760
goes, I ain't getting fat this
time. Wow, this will be your

749
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,960
your second child. And I don't
know, usually that wouldn't fly. Shamoo

750
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:37,760
call. We were listen it was
he called me shamoo through the first pregnancy,

751
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,679
and we have a great Uh,
we have a great joking relationship.

752
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,760
So he bust my ballsyeballs bussed his. But we were in Wegmans a couple

753
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,920
of weeks ago. I picked something
off off the shelf and he goes,

754
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,679
no way, shamoo. And this
olderly the aisle next to us was mortified.

755
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,800
She was so pissed. She goes, what did you just call her?

756
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,719
I go, man, it's mine
your own business. Where I should

757
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:10,000
have where I should have just started
crying. Oh my god. They would

758
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:15,039
have had him arrested security. That's
wild. All right, Well, I

759
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,639
I'm glad to hear that I wasn't
too far off the mark on the impossible,

760
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,760
Uh, Joey chestnut thing. Obviously, for Joey it's a bank account

761
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,840
issue, and it's not impossible.
You have to eat the impossible like dogs.

762
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,079
Or is he eating just the normal
acid lips mystery meat. He won't.

763
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:36,519
Yeah, acid lips mystery meat that
was usually Friday night in college.

764
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:42,400
I Uh, I don't, I
don't, Yeah, I don't. I

765
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,079
don't know. I don't know what
his deal is. Apparently he's signed a

766
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,039
deal with this other company, so
I don't think he can be endorsing any

767
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:52,679
other hot dog, which then would
be Nathan's if it was not you know,

768
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,119
if the other hot dog wasn't named. I'm sure he could be part

769
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:58,800
of something, but I don't know
what. It's not disclosing what he's getting

770
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,639
from impossible, it's just saying what
Nathan's was offering and that he's not going

771
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,480
to be in it this year.
No, he should not know. I

772
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:07,159
was a lot of money though,
yeah, it is. It is.

773
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,320
What would happen to me? One
quick question? Sure, what would happen

774
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,159
to a guy that's used to eating
seventy b francs in a five minute period

775
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,960
and then if he switches to eating
seventy impossible francs in a five minute period?

776
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,280
What effect does that have on his
body? Though? I don't know.

777
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:30,679
He might be on the toilet for
a couple of days, but you

778
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,519
have a great tube steak. I
mean, I can't imagine what the hot

779
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:39,320
dogs do to his body. But
yeah, well he's very thin, which

780
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:45,119
you got to think those guys only
eat that craft like they're only eating you

781
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,800
know, they're they're eating a large
amount of calories in a day. But

782
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,239
I don't know how active he is. I don't know what he's doing for

783
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,239
training, you know. So it's
if they're only eating seventy hot dogs that's

784
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,599
probably one of the only things for
eating in a day, or they're going

785
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,480
late hours later and blink and they're
throwing it up like I have no idea.

786
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,400
I don't know how the support work. Yeah, I don't. I

787
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,159
don't either. It looked like they
probably do that day, keep it down

788
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:13,480
and then may not eat. I
don't know. I'm sure. I'm sure

789
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,119
there's a strategy behind it somewhere along
the line. I wouldn't be eating for

790
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:21,039
days after. Yeah, I mean
either, always a pleasure to talk to

791
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,719
you. Would love to have you
back in someday as the pregnancy progresses and

792
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,639
we get to see uh. I
was gonna say shamou, but that doesn't

793
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:35,760
feel appropriate. I will not say
that. I just but you know,

794
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,320
Project Lean Nation. Check it out
this store in Canandago. There's a couple

795
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,519
throughout the Great Rochester area. But
if you want the best service, you

796
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:46,239
got to go to Canandagua. All
right, thank you, thank you two

797
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,679
there she goes, Oh there it
is. This is your thinking, your

798
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:54,440
impossible stuff. I don't know that
it's that much better if all I'm with

799
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:59,159
you, that's all. I was
never a big fan. Uh, we'll

800
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,400
take a moment. I'm gonna drop
in. I did a one on one

801
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,760
with Danielle from Openly Committed, and
it's an interesting conversation. But I will

802
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,119
say this. I will say this, Greg, I did not ask only

803
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:15,760
because I assumed that and I guess
it was sort of a miss in an

804
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,360
interview, right, But to me, it felt like a base question to

805
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,679
talk about. So do you have
sex with these other people? And do

806
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,440
you use protection? And I'm like, I know the answer to this.

807
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,000
I think we all do. Yes, they're probably having sex with somebody else.

808
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,159
That's what open it would be.
And then the other part is if

809
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,679
they choose to use protection or not, Well, it's not of your business.

810
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,400
You're not the one getting into bed
with him again, right, So

811
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:45,480
I didn't ask that. What I
did ask now, anyway, What I

812
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:52,920
did ask about nasty comments that she
gets on TikTok from people and how a

813
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:57,519
family member outed her to her parents
about being in an open marriage. Yeah,

814
00:55:57,559 --> 00:56:00,480
and how that all went down,
That to me is way more interesting.

815
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,840
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834
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835
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839
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841
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Leo's? Say it with me? Everything

842
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:21,519
I found Danielle on TikTok and I
don't even know how, And then I

843
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,000
feel like a creep like I think
it came up in my for you,

844
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:29,119
but I don't even know how.
And I must have something for redheads because

845
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:30,239
I was like, oh, here's
a pretty redhead green eyes. All right,

846
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,960
I'll watch this, which is terrible. You're not the only one.

847
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,920
And then I started hearing about openly
committed and I go, what is this?

848
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,880
And you talk about being in an
open relationship, but you have a

849
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,440
family, you have children. I
think you just did a whole thing at

850
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,719
Disney. I watched it. I
watched you do all these videos at Disney,

851
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,679
and you were just talking about just
regular life stuff. You've even talked

852
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:01,039
so much about where you and your
husban and have and obviously if you're going

853
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:07,760
to do this lifestyle, you have
to communicate a lot. But you talked

854
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,800
about at times as I think he
asked you to be monogamous for a while.

855
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,280
M h. And how does I
guess? How does all that work?

856
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Here's the thing that I'm always fascinated
with. And I think about this

857
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:22,199
with everything, and please don't take
this the wrong way, but even with

858
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,239
crime, when I see somebody who
goes, I go, how did they

859
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,519
get that other person to agree to
do? Do? You know what I'm

860
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:31,920
saying, Like I used to say
that with the Menendez brothers, because I

861
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,800
have sons. I go, how
did one go to the other and the

862
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,880
other guy goes, not a good
idea, that's not a good idea at

863
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,719
all. We shouldn't do this.
And and I'm I think that with everything,

864
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,639
and I go, how does this
come up in a marriage between two

865
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:50,760
people who probably started out monogamous?
I would assume, all right, I'm

866
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,519
not sure how I feel about us
compared you know what, if we're going

867
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:58,000
to if we're going to compare it
to a crime, then I am an

868
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:02,199
equal partner. If anything, I
think that sometimes like I'm the strategic planner.

869
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:06,480
You know, he's driving the getaway
car and I'm really figuring out the

870
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:12,079
robbery. Let's not compare non monogamy
to a crime. We will not.

871
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,639
And I didn't, and I certain
see that's why I said, don't take

872
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:16,480
this the wrong way. But I
was just curious as to how did two

873
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:21,920
people like, how do you get
somebody to do this? Yeah? I

874
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,760
mean, so the thing is my
husband and I get this all the time

875
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,760
as a comment on on TikTok especially, but my husband did he brought up

876
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,239
the idea of non monogamy, but
it was never an ultimatum. It was

877
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,480
something that he and I figured out
together. So you brought up this idea,

878
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:43,360
hang on your froze for a second. Maybe that's okay, you froze

879
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,239
for just a second. I just
have to say this. Why am I

880
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:50,199
not surprised the guy was the one
who approached this idea. I think that

881
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,960
that's changing significantly. I think actually
the more people I speak to, it's

882
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,920
women that are bringing up more so
than men. But going back to he

883
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,599
brought up the idea, and it
was we explored together. So we had

884
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:05,400
just started dating. This was fourteen
years ago. We had been dating for

885
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:07,880
just a couple of months, and
my husband and I had instant chemistry.

886
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,079
I mean it could be a meet
cute out of a rom com. And

887
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,039
from the moment we met, we
wanted to figure out how do we make

888
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:19,599
a relationship work forever? And I
think that he and I had both seen

889
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:25,440
affairs decimate relationships, decimate family members, and when we started, we were

890
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,519
trying to figure out how do we
affair proof our relationship, how do we

891
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:34,480
make sure that we don't have some
grenade, some mistake that either of us

892
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:37,760
could make that would ruin our family. And that was kind of how we

893
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:44,280
started an open relationship. And we
spent two years reading books and going to

894
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,119
swingers clubs and having a threesome.
And then I would kiss someone and he

895
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:49,199
would kiss someone, and I would
go on a date and he would go

896
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:51,920
on a date, and we would
talk about it all and it took us

897
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,559
two years to figure out what did
we want for our relationship, for us

898
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,599
and nobody else, and it turned
into an open relationship. Okay, So

899
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,440
I I was married, and I'm
picturing back to then, and if my

900
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,880
wife at the time had come to
me now, I'm still I'm not married

901
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,119
now, So to your point,
I don't know, but I would say,

902
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:15,119
like, if she came to me
and said I wanted to, it

903
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:19,199
would make my sphincter tight, like
I get all nervous inside. It would

904
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:23,159
make me uncomfortable. And I think
that that's a probably a knee jerk human

905
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:28,719
reaction, but at the same time, because you almost would feel like,

906
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,599
well, I'm not good enough,
is that okay? And so yeah,

907
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:37,599
okay, I mean I think that
feeling of not that idea of not being

908
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:42,559
good enough It was my first reaction
too when you brought up this idea.

909
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,760
But at the same time, I
mean, now I've and I've been doing

910
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,079
this for fourteen years, and now
I take a step back, and I

911
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:52,920
say, first of all, dear
feminism, no, man, you know,

912
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:55,199
my value is not determined by being
enough for a man, right,

913
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:59,119
So like, I think that that's
the first thing, and there's a lot

914
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:02,400
of ways to get for filment and
our needs and desires and wants met outside

915
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,360
of our relationship. I have a
question for you, Bill, Yes,

916
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,320
all right, with your ex wife
if she was if a guy was flirting

917
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:16,320
with her and found her super sexy
and super attractive, would you feel jealous

918
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:25,559
or would you feel proud? That's
a um depends on I think I'd probably

919
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,880
see it's hard for me now because
I've been out of the relationship for five

920
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,880
years. So my first answer to
you would be like, I'd be like,

921
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,880
hey, man, take her,
uh, because I can see down

922
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,320
the road out terrible as that I'm
kidding, I am kidding. I don't

923
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,800
know. It depends because I have
walked into a situation where I got annoyed.

924
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:52,119
But there's some guy was draped all
over and that was that annoyed me.

925
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:57,400
But let's say I was with someone
today and someone was flirting with them.

926
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,400
I think I would be proud.
But I would be proud because I

927
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:06,719
think I would believe she was coming
home with me and only Yeah. Do

928
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:11,719
you think there's a fine line though, between kind of jealousy and getting a

929
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:15,079
little bit turned on? Yes,
I think there is a fine line.

930
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,280
So so then how does it work
now? Because let's say, I mean,

931
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:24,320
uh, you know, let's say
you get all dressed up as you're

932
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,000
going out with somebody else. I
would I don't know, I'd have to

933
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,039
be in the other room when you
left. I couldn't look at it.

934
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,079
And you're like, god, dang, we really are you kidding me.

935
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,480
My husband gives me some of the
best advice. She's like, honey,

936
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,760
don't wear those jeans. Your ass
looks way better in the other pair.

937
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Oh okay, I mean. And
he and people are different. I've spoken

938
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:48,639
to I think since starting the TikTok, which I started two years ago,

939
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:54,920
almost of the day two years ago, I have spoken to hundreds of people

940
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:58,920
and couples and open relationships, and
everyone is very, very different. Sure,

941
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:02,880
And I've my husband doesn't. There
are certain men out there in the

942
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,320
world that get really excited about their
their wife or their woman being with someone

943
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,599
else, their plenty and it goes
both ways, both both genders. For

944
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,519
my husband, that's not part of
our open relationship, but he genuinely wants

945
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:23,880
me to be happy and have fun. And then the condition that are that

946
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,920
I have a lot of respect for
our marriage, that I am communicating transparently,

947
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,000
and that I'm being honest, that
we're both you know, have this

948
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:34,559
transparency and honesty in our relationship,
and our relationship is really strong. I

949
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:42,079
feel like when we have experiences and
romance outside of our marriage, it gives

950
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:45,599
us both energy, it gives us
both joy, and we kind of get

951
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,840
to bring that back into the into
our lives. It's pretty special. Can

952
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,679
I ask you something a little more
personal? What what do you do?

953
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:59,440
Only? Because here's why. What
what really struck me with your tiktoks is

954
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:03,599
how good you are on camera,
how articulate you are in terms and that

955
01:06:03,719 --> 01:06:09,199
sounds I don't mean like mush mouth
mumbling, I mean articulate in expressing all

956
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:14,559
these points. And I gotta think
in the world we live in today,

957
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,599
where we have keyboard warriors everywhere that
people are not very kind. I have

958
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:24,800
to think that, yes, so, but there's that pretty smile, and

959
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,239
I just wonder, like, how
does it? How do you wear all

960
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,360
that? And I'm a big it's
very easy to say what other people's opinion

961
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:39,239
of me is none of my business? Right, none of my business.

962
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,800
However, when it's coming right to
your pocket, so to speak on your

963
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,599
TikTok page, that's got to be
tough. And you, I mean to

964
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:48,719
me, I go, boy,
this is someone who's pretty brave to put

965
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,360
it, put it all out there. Well, thank you. It affects

966
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,159
me. I mean, I definitely
will take breaks. I'll take a week

967
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:02,519
or two breaks if I've gotten a
lot of hay, I've definitely gotten a

968
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:04,960
ton of hate. Oh, you
know, it's really hard. Is sometimes

969
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,039
like a right wing church gets a
hold of a video and then okay,

970
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:14,000
so that's an interesting thing with the
right wing church, because I'm going,

971
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,400
you know what, how many times
so if we heard the person who would

972
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:21,360
and I always say they're over compensating
when they rail against well, I don't

973
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,599
know if you call it an all
term, but gay lifestyles or whatever.

974
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:27,639
And then we find out later on
that the guy was in the bathroom trying

975
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:30,199
to pick somebody up in an airport
in Minneapolis, right, and he's this

976
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,360
right wing conserve. So what are
they doing? How are you even coming

977
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,440
up in their feed to begin with? What are the you know what I'm

978
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,239
saying, Well, okay, how
do I come up with their feeds?

979
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,679
I think? And one of the
things we just kind of have to recognize

980
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,400
is happening in the world. Polarizing
content is sure when one of my videos

981
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,599
goes viral, and I have had
I think I've had like fifteen videos over

982
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:55,760
and over a couple of million views, I think, you know, so,

983
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,960
I've had quite a few videos go
viral. And the theme that I

984
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,960
see is that when one of my
videos go viral goes viral, it is

985
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:11,199
because it has stimulated a black and
white, deeply polarizing conversation and the angrier

986
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,880
that people get in the comments,
the angry or the other side gets in

987
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,319
the comments, and my video blows
up. And I the first thing to

988
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:20,479
answer your question, like how do
I deal with that? I think the

989
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:26,359
first thing that I do is I
recognize that polarizing content is what goes viral,

990
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,159
and to just you know it,
let it, let it do its

991
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:33,359
thing. I think the second thing
is I really recognize that when people are

992
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:39,840
commenting and they are seeing my content, what they see has much what the

993
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,000
way they react excuse me, has
much more to do with them than it

994
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:46,479
does with me. People are reacting
to thirty to sixty seconds of me and

995
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,439
my life, and you know,
they are basing that off of their own

996
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:56,520
experiences and they maybe they were cheated
on, maybe they grew saw an affair,

997
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,880
maybe they are they just deeply are
monogamous and does not mix with their

998
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,600
beliefs, and that is okay,
right, And I think that's kind of

999
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,760
the second thing. And the third
is I don't know. I don't know

1000
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,760
if there is a third. I
think those are my two. All right,

1001
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,520
So let's let's go back to a
couple different things. Because you are

1002
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,800
married and you have children, and
I would assume you keep this away from

1003
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:28,800
the kids. I keep the social
media away from the kids. So,

1004
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,359
oh, you mean my open relationship. Yeah, yeah, so I think

1005
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:40,399
it's my kids are ages ten,
my daughter's about to turn seven. We

1006
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,600
have started to talk about this a
little bit with my son. Really,

1007
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,079
yeah, not my daughter. I
think that he felt age appropriate. It

1008
01:09:48,119 --> 01:09:50,840
felt like it was kind of the
right time to sort of bring up a

1009
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,880
lot of these ideas, and honestly, a lot of it had to do

1010
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,199
a little bit with LGBTQ. Plus
we were talking. You know, my

1011
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:01,159
son, he was born and raised
in the Bay Area in California. We've

1012
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:05,880
recently moved to western North Carolina.
He has two friends, both of whom

1013
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:13,720
have same sex parents. And you
know, it never occurred to him,

1014
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,000
God blessed ten year olds, It
never occurred to him that a man wouldn't

1015
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,119
be able to marry a man and
a woman wouldn't be able to marry a

1016
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:24,680
woman. You know, here he
grew up thinking that absolutely that's allowed.

1017
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,000
If someone loves someone, they get
to love someone else. And he actually

1018
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:30,640
asked us, Wendy, He's like, what happens when someone loves two people?

1019
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,760
And you know, we kind of
had a conversation around how that would

1020
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,800
work. So I like to think
that we are treading lightly on introducing this

1021
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:42,840
concept to our kids, and it
has nothing to do with us and our

1022
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,880
relationship. We obviously have a lot
of pride and thought process that has gone

1023
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,319
into our relationship that we feel really
confident in that we have no problem explaining

1024
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:56,039
to our son. However, our
son exists in the world today, and

1025
01:10:56,079 --> 01:10:59,800
we are very We're much more worried
about what we'll hear from his friends or

1026
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,119
his friend's parents are down down there
as they get older. Yeah, I

1027
01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:08,640
think our kids needs to be of
a certain age. How people know.

1028
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:11,920
I couldn't look at you and go, oh, she's obviously in an open

1029
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:15,399
I would have no idea, so
how right, I'm like a wolf and

1030
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,039
she I don't know. I don't
even mean you, but I mean any

1031
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:21,479
anyone. I wouldn't be able to
go, oh, yeah. How do

1032
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,680
you find people to go on dates
with? Then? Oh, that's hard.

1033
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,159
It is really difficult. I'm not
gonna lie. It takes finding kind

1034
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:35,640
of your community, sort of friends
of friends. Dating apps. There's quite

1035
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,079
a few dating apps that are dedicated
to nominogamy at this point, okay,

1036
01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:43,640
and I believe I forget. I
don't know which one it is, but

1037
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,239
there are a couple of dating apps
that you can actually set your in a

1038
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:53,359
nominogamous or open or polyamorous relationship.
And it's I mean, it's four to

1039
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:58,399
five percent of the relate of the
population of the US. US couples consider

1040
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,840
themselves in some type of consentual non
monogamy, whether that's swinging or it's just

1041
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,479
open, or whether it's a triad, or whether it's polling I was going

1042
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:12,319
to say, or one partner's not
telling the other. And that's the rates

1043
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:16,199
of non consensual nominogamy. So cheating
are still in the depending on the state,

1044
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:19,680
between thirty and sixty percent. I
mean people cheat, Yeah, they

1045
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:26,680
do. So when you have you
ever, here's a funny one. So

1046
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,159
your husband goes and dates people as
well? Then, okay, and has

1047
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:34,479
he ever shown you pictures of people? I'm like, they do you ever

1048
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,960
do that? Go? What do
you think of this guy? What do

1049
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,359
you think of this girl? What
do you think? Have I or would

1050
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:42,960
you ever said? Yeah? Would
you say to him? What if were

1051
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,600
you thinking? I didn't know.
My husband's got pretty good taste in women.

1052
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,439
Okay, you know myself included.
Have I seen that? So?

1053
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,920
I don't think. I don't think
when it comes to his dating apps,

1054
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,159
i've seen a girl beforehand, I
don't think. So I did show him

1055
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,600
a picture once of a I'd be
like, what do you think? That's

1056
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,920
a different funny story. But I
have met a couple of the women that

1057
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:11,880
he's dated, you have I have, Yeah, does that make you jealous

1058
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,439
at all in that moment? Reason
for different reasons than you would think,

1059
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:20,560
I think early on in our relationship. So take a step back from nominagmy

1060
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,760
right, and you just think about
a relationship that has been together for fourteen

1061
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,399
years. In the beginning of that
relationship, the phases you were in your

1062
01:13:28,399 --> 01:13:33,039
honeymoon phase and everything was perfect and
roses, and you would get jealous of

1063
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:36,760
ex girlfriends because you'd never met them. And you know, I think that

1064
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:41,439
that's pretty common phases in the early
phase of our relationship. My husband and

1065
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,600
I had been together for fourteen years. We have been through multiple moves,

1066
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,800
some of them being across the continents, some being across the Atlantic. We've

1067
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,239
had two kids together, we have
been through the death of a parent,

1068
01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:58,680
we have been through huge career ups
and downs. Sometimes I think that those

1069
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,119
are those are the big things,
are the big things that matter in our

1070
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:05,199
relationship. And I think that when
you know, my husband dates a beautiful

1071
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:11,760
woman, if she's bringing a whole
bunch of joy and energy into his life,

1072
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,520
that sometimes I may or may not
be able to provide, then that's

1073
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,119
great. That gives him, That
gives him more more in his life,

1074
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:23,680
and the same way for me and
I feeling that there's a woman listening right

1075
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:29,239
now that goes I could use a
night off. Oh yeah, which sounds

1076
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:30,880
funny, But here's this is This
is why I'm in it. Sorry,

1077
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,199
I'm gonna cut you off really quick
on this ride. This is this is

1078
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:38,319
the thing that I currently love about
being an open relationship. I love my

1079
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,920
kids to death day. I feel
so fortunate to be their mom. I

1080
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,680
love my husband. But our lives
are really entangled. We have financial obligations.

1081
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,880
I cannot imagine a date that we've
had that we didn't at some point

1082
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,920
in time talk about logistics and our
savings goals and career kids, kids,

1083
01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:59,479
college funds and college job. I
mean, our lives are so deeply entangled

1084
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,239
that when I get to go on
a date with another guy, there's none

1085
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:04,800
of that. We're talking about books
and movies and trips and travels, and

1086
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:13,119
I mean it is a mental vacation
that is just really wonderful and invigorating.

1087
01:15:13,399 --> 01:15:15,880
And I mean, in some ways
I get to be like the non mom

1088
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:21,319
like hot woman version of myself that
as much as I try, you know,

1089
01:15:21,399 --> 01:15:26,479
it's a little harder to be with
your husband like you watch. All

1090
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,840
right, Actually that makes a lot
of sense. What you just said makes

1091
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,119
a lot of sense. But what
happens if you fall fall in love with

1092
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:41,359
someone else? Is that possible?
Yeah? I have that's a beautiful thing.

1093
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,119
Sure it is. I agree,
I mean, but that does it

1094
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:48,399
make bill? Why do they use
the word love broadly? How many people

1095
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:53,680
do you love in your life?
Uh? Well, it depends, right,

1096
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,279
I guess there would be different kinds
of love I have, I too

1097
01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,359
have children, and then my both
my parents are still alive. I have

1098
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:05,600
siblings, and uh, and then
there are others, right, then there

1099
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,960
are others. Yeah, sure,
so how does that that work? But

1100
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,199
if you have such a deep relationship
with your husband, where you've gone through

1101
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,880
things, things that have really connected
the two of you, you bonded,

1102
01:16:17,319 --> 01:16:23,720
like you said, Uh, how
does that play with someone else? Could

1103
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,880
you wind up with someone else or
does it always sort of just more surface?

1104
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,960
And everybody kind of knows this is
just sort of a fun release.

1105
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:32,840
I don't. I don't. I
don't know if that's a fair thing to

1106
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,960
say or not. I don't want
to change. I don't know if you

1107
01:16:36,039 --> 01:16:42,159
can control these things. Yes,
you know, I don't think monogamy protects

1108
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,640
people from their partner falling in love
with someone else. But I do think

1109
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,239
that the love that I have felt
for the other people that I've that I've

1110
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:55,199
fallen in love with is different.
You know, It's not the same love

1111
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:59,159
that I have for my husband.
The same way the love that I have

1112
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:00,520
for my kids is differ than the
love that I have for my parents.

1113
01:17:02,079 --> 01:17:05,039
I would say I love my best
friend, my sister. I think that

1114
01:17:05,119 --> 01:17:09,560
when I've fallen in love with other
guys. I don't think it's fair to

1115
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,880
say that it was more superficial.
But it was different, I think the

1116
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,039
best way to describe it it was
different. Do you think it helps you

1117
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:20,520
fall deeper in love with your husband
in a way and in a sense,

1118
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:26,119
do you have a greater appreciation in
love for him after? Absolutely? Yeah,

1119
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:30,279
I can see that, and I
can't even articulate it properly, but

1120
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:32,640
I could see where that would totally
be the thing, like, I'm so

1121
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:38,159
glad I chose, you know,
we chose each other for this, and

1122
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:43,359
thank you for letting me. I
don't know sample the smorgasport of life that's

1123
01:17:43,359 --> 01:17:46,560
out there. I guess it's a
little bit. I don't know. I

1124
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,640
love it. I'm a poet.
I'm a poet. I don't know if

1125
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,000
you knew that as well. I
mean it could at least you picked a

1126
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,479
good word you didn't use, like
buffet. Yeah, that's a little nasty.

1127
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,119
Buffets always think of sneak, these
guards and fat people. It's just

1128
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:06,239
not my not my thing with that. So all of this for you has

1129
01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:11,560
played out on TikTok and people can
go watch the series of them. It's

1130
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,000
it's at openly committed, right,
and Danielle at openly committed Daniel daniellet openly

1131
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,800
committed and you find it on TikTok. And it's really an interesting story.

1132
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,560
I think the part that if you
don't mind me asking about it's sort of

1133
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,279
your family and as you talk about
the people you love, you know you

1134
01:18:28,359 --> 01:18:31,319
have. Was it your mom or
somebody if somebody outed you sort of or

1135
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,239
threatened out you or I mean,
how horrible was that? Why would you

1136
01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:41,479
weaponize? Why is it any of
their business? Mmmm? Yeah? This

1137
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,359
was People go through different things.
I had a family member who you know,

1138
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,640
this person was dating someone that no
one in the family approved of.

1139
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:55,199
Oh, and this person also knew
that I was in an open marriage,

1140
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,439
and you know, didn't feel like
And I think one of the things that

1141
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,000
happened is my parents said to you
know, I said to this person,

1142
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:08,319
oh, look at Danielle and Rich's
marriage. It's just so wonderful. It's

1143
01:19:08,399 --> 01:19:15,159
fantastic. And then I think in
their mind they were fuming. It's like,

1144
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,279
you don't know what's really going on. And I think that that was

1145
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:26,680
really frustrating for this person. I
ended up my husband and I ended up

1146
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,600
sitting down with my parents and telling
them about our open relationship, probably a

1147
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,680
little sooner than I would have liked
to them, I would have personally been

1148
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,560
ready, and it was more that
we were kind of going through a bit

1149
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:45,039
of a transition phase in our open
relationship. But by at the same time,

1150
01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:47,880
we'd been open for almost eight years
at this point, so the tough

1151
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,680
questions I was I was able to
answer. And going back to the TikTok

1152
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,319
comments, I mean, when you
get mean question, when you get hard

1153
01:19:57,399 --> 01:20:02,359
questions on TikTok, they're you know, and I think so when strangers ask

1154
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,239
me like, oh, what does
this mean for your kids, you're ruining

1155
01:20:05,359 --> 01:20:10,119
you know, you're ruining your children's
lives. He really he doesn't really love

1156
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:13,279
you. This isn't commitment. When
you're hearing it from strangers on the internet,

1157
01:20:13,319 --> 01:20:16,560
it's one thing. When your parents
ask you those things, it is,

1158
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,760
it's really it's a whole different ball. Again. It's really hard,

1159
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:24,119
and I was lucky that I could
answer a lot of those at that point

1160
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:26,439
in time. Yeah, because it's
like the analogy. If I called you

1161
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,479
up and said I'm never going to
speak to you again. You don't know

1162
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,680
me, you wouldn't care. But
if someone you loved said that to you,

1163
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,720
you'd be heartbroken or you'd be very
distressed about it. And when it's

1164
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:39,520
your parents, you know what are
we always trying to get our parents' approval

1165
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,720
in some way? So I thought
that was to me. I was like,

1166
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,720
wow, this that TikTok goos the
one that sucked me in. I

1167
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,560
don't know if that was the first
one I started, it was the one

1168
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,560
that got me because I went,
Okay, this is a real life situation.

1169
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:56,880
And how you know, we hear
about these things and people fantasize maybe

1170
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,520
a little bit, but there's a
real life side to it, and you're

1171
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:03,000
going to be and you're gonna be
judged by those who you may hold in

1172
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,920
the highest esteem yourself. And no
one wants to have their parents sort of

1173
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,520
judge. So how did that?
Obviously it went okay? Uh, I

1174
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,520
mean, what are we how we're
gonna find? Okay? My my parents

1175
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,800
live in small town Texas. My
mother is deeply religious. Yeah, and

1176
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,359
I will I got to give my
mother credit. She's incredible and an incredible

1177
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:30,399
woman. When we first told my
parents that my husband and I were in

1178
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,039
open relationship, it was it was
really tough for them. They asked a

1179
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:36,359
lot of questions. They asked a
little of really hard questions, and then

1180
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:40,920
they kind of said, we don't
want to hear about this ever again.

1181
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:45,119
And so for a couple of years
we didn't talk about it. It was

1182
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:47,680
just it was the white elephant,
and it is a white elephant. It

1183
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:53,720
was the elephant in the room.
Yeah, and then I think when I

1184
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,319
started the TikTok a couple of years
ago, ephants don't see color, so

1185
01:21:57,359 --> 01:22:00,319
don't worry about Yeah, you have
multicolor. It's a rainbow. It's definitely

1186
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:05,279
a rainbow elephant. It's a rainbow
elephant. Yeah. A couple of years

1187
01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:09,479
ago, when I started the TikTok
funny story, I had a family member

1188
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:15,600
find me on TikTok, loved absolutely
all of my content and gushed to my

1189
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,199
parents about how helpful my content had
been for her and her husband. And

1190
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:24,039
this person is my parents' age,
and all of a sudden, all was

1191
01:22:24,079 --> 01:22:28,560
a mom and I were like,
okay, not for us, but maybe

1192
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,159
it's not so bad. Oh,
so that helped. I think that helped.

1193
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:35,800
And I think time really is the
thing because my parents have seen how

1194
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,560
happy my husband and I are,
how great our kids are. Really proves

1195
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,359
it. You never answered a question
earlier when I said, what do you

1196
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:49,199
do? Are you a therapist of
some kind? I am not a therapist.

1197
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:54,920
I am an aspiring author. So
two years ago I wrote my first

1198
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,439
book. I shopped it around to
every agent I could find. I got

1199
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,720
zero interest, And I think I
get to announce this yet. I have

1200
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:08,600
my first book coming out, so
I'm really excited. Yeah, it's still

1201
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,279
long ways away. It will come
out hopefully February twenty twenty six. So

1202
01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,840
you're like, it's still got a
ways but I've got my publishing deal and

1203
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,600
I get to say I'm an author. Now that's awesome. Congratulations, that's

1204
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:24,439
really great. And then the TikTok
stuff. I only bring this up because

1205
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,840
you said TikTok paid for this Disney
trip. It did, and that's just

1206
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,039
from people watching your content. You've
become that big on TikTok, so I

1207
01:23:34,079 --> 01:23:38,720
receive less. It kind of comes
and goes. So I definitely don't make

1208
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,399
a ton of money on TikTok.
I think I'm about I mean, I

1209
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,960
make about two thousand dollars a month
on TikTok at the moment. It's not

1210
01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:48,199
huge. And then I do other
things. So on my website, I

1211
01:23:48,199 --> 01:23:53,640
host events. I have a course
that I that I've offered, which is

1212
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,159
called a Couple's Guide to Opening Up
to with the I yeah, it's all

1213
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:01,880
my website. It's all linked to
my TikTok uh Instagram. Okay, so

1214
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,520
people can find you on TikTok and
Instagram. Danielle at openly committed and then

1215
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,720
openly committed across the board on all
my social media channels, and then it's

1216
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,359
opencommitment dot com. And then I'm
still kind of figuring out what is the

1217
01:24:16,399 --> 01:24:21,439
most helpful to people. So I
have like a booklist and book recommendations everything

1218
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:28,920
on different types of relationships to getting
getting jealousy. I host an event usually

1219
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,039
around managing jealousy once a month and
it's just kind of a nice place for

1220
01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:32,960
people to hang out and be like, oh my god, this made me

1221
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:39,319
so jealous when my partner did this. I share some of our stories more

1222
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:42,920
on Instagram Stories. I'm I share
a lot more behind the scenes and what

1223
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,199
I'm working on on Instagram Stories.
But to answer your question, so TikTok,

1224
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,600
I also get I have a hair
I have two hair brands that sponsored

1225
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,760
me, which is still wild.
Like now when people ask me, they're

1226
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,239
like, oh, what do you
do, I'm like, I'm a hair

1227
01:24:57,319 --> 01:25:00,560
model, obviously, because that's the
best answer I've got I had in my

1228
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:08,479
entire life. I worked in marketing
for twelve years before before trying to become

1229
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,640
an author. So what made you
pick up the camera the phone one day

1230
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,920
and go, I'm gonna tell our
story. It's all my husband's fault,

1231
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:20,319
and he was originally in some of
the videos, so I wanted so again,

1232
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:24,000
going back to wanting to be an
author. In my head, I

1233
01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:25,880
was like I want to. I
really want to write a book. I

1234
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,520
have these ideas. I want to
tell parts of our story. And he

1235
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:30,359
was and I was like, I'm
going to make a blog. I'm going

1236
01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:32,800
to write a blog, honey.
And he's like, what is this like

1237
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,199
two thousand and eight, like,
what are you doing? Go on TikTok?

1238
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:39,720
Yeah, oh and man, it
caught five. Did you ever think

1239
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,600
it would be this big? Because
I have to think, in addition to

1240
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,560
the negative comments, you got to
get asked out. You got to be

1241
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,840
proposed not proposed to, but people
have to propose dates to you. The

1242
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,880
number of sugar do out of your
requests I get is discuss and they're all

1243
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,960
bots. They're all bots. They're
not real. I don't know. I'd

1244
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,000
be afraid to find out for real
myself. That's so sure. I want

1245
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,399
to that that is a TikTok video. I have not done yet. I

1246
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:08,239
have not had enough guts to respond
and record the whole thing. You're like,

1247
01:26:08,279 --> 01:26:15,880
oh, hey, am you well, this has been a fascinating conversation

1248
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:18,119
for me. I would love to
have you back some time to do a

1249
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:23,119
follow up. I think the book
thing is great. Congratulations on all that,

1250
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,199
and please follow. I didn't know
you were on Instagram as well,

1251
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,520
so I want to check that out, the behind the scenes stuff and all

1252
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,000
the helpful things you're doing for people. And look, I don't think you

1253
01:26:33,119 --> 01:26:40,319
get better affirmation than someone telling your
parents, who are your parents' age,

1254
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:44,600
that you help their marriage through your
content. Right that's the that's the best

1255
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,279
sales you can get. That's it
right there. And that family member is

1256
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,760
it's she did become so close because
of it. It just means the world

1257
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,840
to me. Good, Oh,
very good, Well, thank you for

1258
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,720
your time much Bill. This has
been fun. Well good. I'm glad

1259
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,279
and I told you it wasn't.
I just had a lot of I see

1260
01:27:00,279 --> 01:27:01,560
this stuff and I go, boy, this is amazing. And usually there's

1261
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,319
even a woman who will join me
on the podcast who I know what is

1262
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:09,159
good to be jealous that she wasn't
here for this conversation. So I may

1263
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:12,600
have to have you back sometime because
she's always intrigued by this sort of thing

1264
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,319
as well. And how does it
work? And how do you how do

1265
01:27:15,359 --> 01:27:17,880
you keep the jealousy away and yet
be able to still play and have that

1266
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,800
one person who's sort of your rock. I guess would be the thing,

1267
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:26,479
right. Yeah, Well, good
for you, Danielle. It's been a

1268
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,279
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Still that's what happens when you're openly
committed and loads all your stuff. California.

1286
01:29:13,359 --> 01:29:15,760
I always, uh, this is
like maybe my favorite Zeppelin so oh

1287
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,640
yeah, yeah, just like the
acoustic. I always thought Jimmy Page played

1288
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:29,079
a really nice acoustic rights so much
deeper than Stairway to Have and yeah,

1289
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:32,319
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it was all the radio friendly

1290
01:29:32,359 --> 01:29:34,800
stuff, right, that was the
big thing I had to do. Uh.

1291
01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:40,560
I was never a big Zeppelin guy. I've come to appreciate it.

1292
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:46,119
I put Zeppelin for me is similar
to the Grateful Death. And I say

1293
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:50,760
it this way. Why I say
that, you wouldn't associate the two together.

1294
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,279
They were jammed down my throat.
When I was a kid, everybody

1295
01:29:55,359 --> 01:29:58,119
listened to the fucking Grateful Day.
I couldn't get away from the Grateful Day.

1296
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:01,479
It was grateful Day, grateful grateful
Da and Bob Dylan. Right,

1297
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,640
So I used to joke on the
radio Bob Dylan's overrated. People would go

1298
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:09,199
fucking insane. But I'm like,
you don't understand. Like it was like,

1299
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,079
you know, Bob Dylan was hey
man, he was in Woodside because

1300
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:17,079
the band was Bob Dylan in the
band right, and they were such reverend

1301
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:21,119
like there was such reverence for them
and they would be around. So when

1302
01:30:21,159 --> 01:30:26,840
I started in radio, I was
nineteen. They did something called Riverfest right

1303
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,640
along the Hudson River and they used
to have a mobile home that they would

1304
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,079
pull behind, and it was you
could broadcast. It looked like a jukebox,

1305
01:30:33,119 --> 01:30:36,199
and then the center it was like
a broadcast thing and they had some

1306
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:41,600
speakers and stuff. And so the
band was coming in and they were late

1307
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:44,920
to come. They were going to
play this river fest and then they were

1308
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,479
going to be interviewed on the radio. Whatever happened, they were running late

1309
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:53,239
to the guy shift ends and now
I'm on and I'm nineteen, and they

1310
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:54,920
go, hey, the band's coming
in, and you got it. I

1311
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,239
go, I'm not doing it.
And they're like, come on, I

1312
01:30:57,279 --> 01:31:00,039
go, I ain't doing it.
Why I go, look, I know

1313
01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:03,479
who the band is. I'm familiar
with who they are. I don't know

1314
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,119
enough. I can't ask. I
can't do an interview with these guys in

1315
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:12,920
nineteen I'm gonna sit across from levon
Helm and go, it's gonna it's gonna

1316
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,359
be the Chris Farley Saturday Night Live
sketch. You want that on your fucking

1317
01:31:15,359 --> 01:31:18,800
airways? Should let me go?
So I somebody else came in. I

1318
01:31:19,119 --> 01:31:23,760
absolutely refused, and I did it
more. I did it because I didn't

1319
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,159
want to embarrass myself, but I
also did out of respect for the band.

1320
01:31:26,199 --> 01:31:28,239
I thought that this is gonna be
awful. You don't want to be

1321
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:31,760
interviewed by a nineteen year old kid
who wasn't around for your biggest time,

1322
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,239
right, yeah, exactly so.
And then when I say Zeppelin, I

1323
01:31:36,279 --> 01:31:42,359
wound up doing like afternoon Drive on
a rock station, and I really just

1324
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,680
like talking and I didn't like,
didn't care about the music, and they

1325
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,560
maybe do get the letout, so
it's night after night. But I once

1326
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:55,880
I got deeper into Zeppelin and I
and they let me pick some of this

1327
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,479
stuff. I loved it when I
got deeper into it. But again it

1328
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,680
was one of these things where I'm
like, all right, I could take

1329
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,159
a break from Zeppelin, like I
could take a break from the Dead or

1330
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:05,800
Dylan, because you know, for
ten years of my life it was just

1331
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:10,000
jammed down my throat. I'd get
on a hill with you about the Bob

1332
01:32:10,079 --> 01:32:13,560
Dylan thing. I never I went
to see him, and him and Tom

1333
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,319
Petty in concert. Oh wow,
who could you understand better? Yeah,

1334
01:32:16,399 --> 01:32:20,239
right, exactly to Mumble, and
by the way, to me, it

1335
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:25,840
was Love Traveling Willberry's Love the Traveling
Willberries, and both those guys were in

1336
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,720
it. That's true. Yeah,
I love that band, and I've come

1337
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,600
to appreciate Tom Petty more now that
he's gone. I like some of his

1338
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,960
deeper stuff, and I really really
liked him, and he was very good

1339
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,920
friends with Gary Shandling, the comic. Oh really, there's a great documentary,

1340
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,079
and since you're a comedy guy,
you should check it out. It's

1341
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:48,760
called The Zen of Gary, and
it's really about his whole life, and

1342
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:54,199
he just shows you this guy who
you could probably relate to a lot.

1343
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:58,039
You know, works so much so
that like his lawn was unkempt and everything

1344
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:00,680
was a mess. And I wound
up dying of a hard sixty six.

1345
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,079
But never had really stable relationships,
love boxing, open his own boxing gym,

1346
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:08,479
and then live next door to Tom
Petty, And there's a whole scene

1347
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,159
where the two of them are in
Petty's private studio shooting the shit and talking

1348
01:33:12,279 --> 01:33:15,800
on this documentary. Yeah, it
really is cool. And Bob Dylan,

1349
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,199
don't get me wrong. I mean
there are songs I love. I love

1350
01:33:18,279 --> 01:33:24,800
Hurricane about the boxer. I love
the way he told his story. Even

1351
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,600
when I watched some of the stuff, you know, everything that right now

1352
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,319
is getting all the We're very into
nostalgia these days, and the whole thing

1353
01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:35,880
on We Are the World and seeing
Bob Dylan in there, you know,

1354
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:41,640
and trying to hit the notes.
But even that I kind of liked it,

1355
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,039
and I go, yeah, that
was Dylan and you. But it

1356
01:33:45,079 --> 01:33:46,840
was just so many others. You
I don't know, if I had tambourine

1357
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,000
man and blowing in the wind,
blow out your ass, you know what

1358
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,000
I mean. But there were some
other songs I really did love. I

1359
01:33:55,039 --> 01:34:00,199
mean, there's note denying is you
know, amazing writing ability exactly. Yeah,

1360
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,119
yeah, I mean one of the
best in rock history. But sure,

1361
01:34:04,079 --> 01:34:09,680
yeah, I could take him for
fifteen minutes. Well, it's funny

1362
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,279
because I yes, and then I'll
go see the Stones who were eighty.

1363
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,760
But if Dylan were coming around,
I go what else he got? Just

1364
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:23,000
so terrible? It's a terrible thing. Well he moved less than Mick Jagger

1365
01:34:23,279 --> 01:34:26,600
thirty years ago, Yes he did. He still moved less than Yeah,

1366
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,920
that may be part of his longevity. I don't really know. But I

1367
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,239
did like the Wallflowers. Remember his
son's band, yep, Jacob Dillon.

1368
01:34:32,319 --> 01:34:35,840
I liked them. They Yeah,
they had a couple one or two hits.

1369
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,960
I like albums that I actually listened
to the whole thing. I like

1370
01:34:40,039 --> 01:34:43,920
some of the deeper stuff. You
just looked up the woman I talked to

1371
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:49,359
openly committed and what did you think
when you you looked at this? Uh?

1372
01:34:51,039 --> 01:34:58,039
I was? I love that?
You really don't know what to say?

1373
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:00,520
I thought, I pictured I'm one
a little bit hotter than that.

1374
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:05,680
Okay, well see that free like
just look like a find it in playing

1375
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,720
Jane Fairport Yeah whatever, yeah,
right, Yeah. You'd see her at

1376
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:15,760
the you know, the Prorace Isle
at and yet she she's the one who's

1377
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,520
out there in the yeah, in
the forefronting her doing her thing. I

1378
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:24,159
don't know that I could do that
relationship. I think I'd be way too

1379
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:28,319
jealous, or it would just be
weird, or I just think it's weird.

1380
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,039
I would also feel like, and
I did say this to her,

1381
01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:34,199
like I'm not enough, right,
yeah, unless the guy's going out and

1382
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:38,840
doing his own well he is.
And she said he brought it up.

1383
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,680
I go, of course, so
guy's gonna bring it up. She goes,

1384
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,239
yeah, but I think more and
more women are now too, And

1385
01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:45,439
I go, I think most guys, if women goes, hey, why

1386
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,960
don't we explore an open relationship,
I think your sphincter gets tight and oh

1387
01:35:49,119 --> 01:35:53,479
fuck, I'm not enough. Yeah, I mean that's all I could think.

1388
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,479
Am I wrong? Yeah, that's
probably the first thing. Why why

1389
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,560
do you need that? Then on
the other side, you're like, fuck,

1390
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:05,119
yeah, it depends excited, all
right, I'll tell you. I'll

1391
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:11,159
tell your story. I know a
guy in radio who I hadn't decided that

1392
01:36:11,359 --> 01:36:15,680
they were going to try an open
marriage, and he was swinging and everything

1393
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,640
and getting nothing. And his wife
had a couple of dates and he got

1394
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:24,800
nothing that would be us way what's
like? He was so pissed, and

1395
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,600
I think it ended shortly after that. The open marriage experiment didn't go very

1396
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:34,840
far because you know, he wasn't
getting any takers. He was he was

1397
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,600
trying and trying and trying, and
you know, once you're out of the

1398
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:43,119
game for a while, I'd be
lost out there. Well, I think

1399
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:47,399
there's this woman said there were dating
apps and things for openly. Yes,

1400
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:54,199
yes, yeah, so you can
go out and you know, and I

1401
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:58,560
think I think I think your spouse
writes you a letter of recommendation. Really,

1402
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:05,239
did you imagine that's the rule of
the that's the rule of the website,

1403
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:10,199
right, your profile recommendation? Right, Well, I think that's always

1404
01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:13,560
been a thing. Like some people
were always saying, if your exes wrote

1405
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,680
your dating profile, what would they
say? Kind of thing? You know,

1406
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,159
what would they what would they say? I don't, I don't.

1407
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:24,720
I don't really know. But it
is weird because I you said earlier the

1408
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,880
type of people that swing are,
what kind of people? Ugly? Piece?

1409
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:31,039
Yeah, it is, and you
know, reminded me. I'm a

1410
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:34,159
nice guy. I don't like calling
people ugly. Maybe less attractive people,

1411
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:38,079
maybe people that don't just go out
to the club and pick up like that.

1412
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:45,119
Right, right, there's a uh
so, I don't know what's It's

1413
01:37:45,159 --> 01:37:50,479
funny because I hit uh Ryan Seacrest
story. I used to follow while I

1414
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,960
was in radio. We were working
for the same company and we knew a

1415
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,600
lot of the same people. So
I just want to find following him on

1416
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,319
social media. And today I see
that probably on to show sometime this week.

1417
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:03,760
Lenny Kravitz is gonna be on.
Well, Lenny Kravitz was just in

1418
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:11,800
the news. Do you know why? Probably an openly committed relations no celibacy

1419
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,960
for nine years? Ah yeah,
And I go, only good looking people

1420
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:23,800
can do that because no, seriously, Like like if somebody who is like

1421
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,079
a big, fat, you know, swinger looking type person that you're saying

1422
01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:29,359
about, they came in and go, yeah, man, I've been celibate

1423
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:30,840
for nine years ago. No,
no one wants to fuck you. Right,

1424
01:38:31,239 --> 01:38:33,560
you could tell me yoursel of it, but nobody wants to fuck you.

1425
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:38,239
It's only pretty people that get to
say that they've been celibate for nine

1426
01:38:38,279 --> 01:38:42,800
years because you can't imagine that nobody's
trying to fuck this person. It's you.

1427
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,920
You seal that we're not that we're
not believing. Uh, you worked

1428
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,279
in corporate, didn't you for a
while, or you were in charges of

1429
01:38:49,159 --> 01:38:55,560
what was the rules about uh dating
at work? Were there any dating rules

1430
01:38:55,600 --> 01:39:02,600
at work? Yeah? You couldn't
date anybody that either was a report above

1431
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:08,079
you or report below you. And
then it was you know, frowned upon

1432
01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:12,880
the Yeah, date in your core
working community, you know what I mean,

1433
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,640
just because the trauma. But it
wasn't it wasn't uh you know,

1434
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:19,159
outlawed or whatever you want to call
it. Yeah, against policy, but

1435
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:26,760
you definitely couldn't be with somebody that
you answered to or that reported to you,

1436
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,119
which seems pretty typical. Yeah,
I mean, and you could disclose

1437
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:32,960
it. You know, they would
have these uh uh what do you call

1438
01:39:33,039 --> 01:39:35,159
them? I forget now, man, I've been out of it only a

1439
01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:40,199
few years. I'm sorry exactly.
But you'd fill out a uh you know,

1440
01:39:43,359 --> 01:39:45,319
you basically just write it out and
send it to the loss prevention say

1441
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:49,920
I'm you know, I'm banging Michelle
in accounting, and then tell you right

1442
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:55,479
back, Oh, how good is
it? How did you like it?

1443
01:39:56,039 --> 01:40:00,680
You like it? I always asked, because in radio it was very ancestral.

1444
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,920
Everybody was pretty much banging everybody,
and the sales people had bigger personalities.

1445
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:10,439
They were fun, they were attractive, you know, more women than

1446
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,039
men, and so you know,
as a radio personality, you get your

1447
01:40:14,079 --> 01:40:18,000
big swinging dick microphone going and you
know, and they sort of got the

1448
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:21,520
job too, which would be you
know, you're out and this and that.

1449
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:27,319
It just was kind of a lifestyle
thing. So I certainly I married

1450
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:30,319
somebody who worked in radio, and
I had dated prior to that people working

1451
01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:34,000
in radio. But I bring this
up because BP, the oil company British

1452
01:40:34,039 --> 01:40:39,239
Petroleum, had that big problem back
in September where the CEO, who had

1453
01:40:39,279 --> 01:40:44,680
been there for four years. I
guess it was out of that he had

1454
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:50,039
a relationship with someone in the company
and before he became CEO, it was

1455
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:54,920
known, or at least rumored,
that he was promoting women that he had

1456
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,720
relationships with, which is exactly why
they don't want you to do it,

1457
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:03,039
right, His little favorite to that
cool. So now this one is a

1458
01:41:03,039 --> 01:41:14,720
little straight because of that, BP
has decided that you have three years to

1459
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:21,159
disclose any relationship you had with anybody
at work or risk being fired. So

1460
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:26,760
what they're saying like they didn't want
a family. Let's say it was a

1461
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,880
son in law or that kind of
stuff. Would you be nepotism, right,

1462
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,840
we fall that on nepotism stuff and
scrutism where you're banging her. I

1463
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,960
guess I don't know what it's called. But yeah, so this guy,

1464
01:41:38,119 --> 01:41:42,880
he was accused of all that stuff. But then according to new thing they're

1465
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:48,840
saying that you have. I think
they said three years to disclose. The

1466
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:54,760
former boss was accused of promoting women. Yep, here's December. The tightening

1467
01:41:54,760 --> 01:42:00,560
the contact rules because of his stuff
reportedly required the staff to disclose all sexual

1468
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:06,359
relationships and even friendships they had with
colleagues within three years. You have three

1469
01:42:06,399 --> 01:42:10,399
years to do it. So here's
my thing, like, how are they

1470
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:15,279
going to prove? So if I
don't disclose, and someone who worked under

1471
01:42:15,319 --> 01:42:20,560
me and I did have let's say, short little dalliance nothing, you know,

1472
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:25,840
maybe we're both single, went out, maybe there was travel involved.

1473
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,359
You're out, everybody goes to dinner, and the next thing, you guys

1474
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:32,600
lingered a little longer, and something
happens, and I decide I'm not disclosing

1475
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,920
that because it was no big deal
and I didn't get nothing came of it.

1476
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,880
But she comes back and goes to
them by the way, and then

1477
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:45,279
goes and I have pictures and and
I have the napkin that he wrote his

1478
01:42:45,359 --> 01:42:49,039
room number down on. What what
then, I mean, then you could

1479
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:54,319
definitely be fired. Yeah. I
don't like this gotcha. I think I

1480
01:42:54,319 --> 01:42:56,880
don't like the gotcha world we live
in. I don't think that's a good

1481
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,800
thing by BP. I think they
just need to set the policy to make

1482
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,680
it clear going forward. Yeah,
which right here, says. A representative

1483
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,800
for BT told Fortune magazine that on
June first, the staff will be forced

1484
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:12,359
to disclose personal relationships, whether or
not they feel they represent a conflict of

1485
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:17,239
interest as part of the policy going
back three years. Jesus, Yeah,

1486
01:43:17,399 --> 01:43:23,319
I mean transparent. What if you
forgot what if you got so if you're

1487
01:43:23,319 --> 01:43:25,680
not a single dude, what if
you are a married guy? Wow,

1488
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,359
and you had a little uh yeah, little so and so while you're out

1489
01:43:29,399 --> 01:43:31,560
on a business trip. You were
openly you were openly committed, but your

1490
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,680
wife didn't know you're openly committed exactly. Then you got to put that in

1491
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:42,800
the doc. Think you can ruin
people's Yeah, you can really ruin people's

1492
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,239
lives financially and everything. Right,
someone hears that, it seems like a

1493
01:43:45,239 --> 01:43:47,880
stretch man. I don't know.
Yeah, it does seem like a stretch.

1494
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,960
I would say, you're probably better. What do they say, don't

1495
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:57,079
stick your don't uh, don't ship
where you eat was the crude way of

1496
01:43:57,119 --> 01:43:59,960
saying it. Don't put your pen
in the company in goes the other one.

1497
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:04,760
Exactly, yeaxactly. I don't know
comedy the world comedy's probably I mean

1498
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,199
again, I'm I got it made, man. I'm happily married, and

1499
01:44:09,359 --> 01:44:12,720
you know, I'm no saint by
any stretch, but I have no desire

1500
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,239
to try to fucking hook up in
comedy world anybody. Now, you don't

1501
01:44:16,279 --> 01:44:18,760
You don't want to? Huh,
I don't want to. You definitely don't

1502
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:24,319
want to. No, because the
other thing is like having that stability and

1503
01:44:24,359 --> 01:44:29,359
that person and that see that.
That was the thing that was weird with

1504
01:44:29,399 --> 01:44:33,159
the conversation with Danielle was that,
you know, she's saying things like,

1505
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:38,600
we went through the death of an
adult parent, like one of their parents.

1506
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,800
I don't know it's hers or his. Uh, we went through that,

1507
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,479
We went through career changes, ups
and downs. That those are all

1508
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:50,439
the things that you sort of become
the foundation of your relationship. Doesn't you've

1509
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:56,319
been married for thirty years, that
becomes sort of your your story together.

1510
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:01,039
Nobody else shares those that to me
when we talk intimacy, that ship,

1511
01:45:01,159 --> 01:45:05,600
to me is actually the real intimacy
of life. Anybody can fuck, but

1512
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:10,680
you know, to put it crasslely. But the other stuff is the standing

1513
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:14,079
by somebody when they're really down,
or lifting them up, or making sure

1514
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:18,760
that person's sick or you know,
whatever's going on. You know, Barbara

1515
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:23,560
at work has been driving me gutting
for my job and I'm really stressed out,

1516
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,760
and you're helping sort of strategize.
That's the intimacy on how to you

1517
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,640
know, bulletproof yourself at work.
Then this this other stuff, and I

1518
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:35,119
go, I don't know how you
get that with someone else while you're with

1519
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:41,960
that person, unless you're just going
with the cold hearted sex on the outside.

1520
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,359
Well, I mean that that could
that could be it. They're just

1521
01:45:44,399 --> 01:45:47,319
the raw dog, just I mean, you're just an animal. Oh my

1522
01:45:47,399 --> 01:45:55,560
god, put on a water buffalo
cap and we're going to town, honey.

1523
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:00,520
But even there, think of this, Think of this. Think of

1524
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:04,560
any women who have said I was
nervous to be naked in front of you.

1525
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:08,079
I was, you know what,
I mean, I feel like my

1526
01:46:08,199 --> 01:46:12,840
body's flawed in some condition, and
and you're just you're willing to just go

1527
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,520
hunting peck for any hunter peck.
I don't get it, man, I

1528
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,640
don't know. Yeah, I don't
either. I can't The swinging thing,

1529
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,760
I don't get. I mean,
you know, in a single world,

1530
01:46:24,199 --> 01:46:28,560
people are banging left and right there. Yes, you know, getting naked

1531
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,920
and fucking. Yes, that's true. You know you go that way.

1532
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,439
But I just think that after a
while, you know, when you find

1533
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,600
that person. I don't know,
it just seems weird. I don't know

1534
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:45,079
that I could even. I think
I turned into a soy hot dog down

1535
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:48,319
there, and I wouldn't be able
to do I wouldn't be able to perform.

1536
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:55,520
After Joey test nuts in the water
and I got my chestnuts and nothing's

1537
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,560
working right, and I'm embarrassed.
I got that there goes. It's not

1538
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,359
working, that we're not working because
in my head I'm thinking of her,

1539
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,359
I'm not thinking of what's right on
top of me with you. Yeah,

1540
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:10,560
you know that's it. Well,
nice conversation, but BP, it's gonna

1541
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,760
make you disclosed. Hey, you
don't want to work for BP? If

1542
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,800
that's the thing. Nah. I
mean probably they're not the only ones,

1543
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,960
but I've never heard of going back
three years. That's a stretch man.

1544
01:47:19,159 --> 01:47:25,119
Yeah, I mean, you know, an email circulated BP's intimate relationship that

1545
01:47:25,159 --> 01:47:32,680
we're a face the door to avoid
an embarrassing repeat of the CEO for HIBS

1546
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,720
employees. When we got that,
forty five hundred managers have been given three

1547
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:42,000
months. Oh, I thought it
was three years. Have been given three

1548
01:47:42,039 --> 01:47:46,680
months to report all intimate relationships they
have engaged in the last three years.

1549
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:50,680
You've got three months. You've got
ninety days. Motherfucker. So does his

1550
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,640
managers, though not everybody, forty
five hundred managers, right, not everybody

1551
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:59,479
in the company. So forty five
hundred managers. You know what, I

1552
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,479
feel like, somebody's sitting there writing
a book going I knew it, and

1553
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,479
I fucking knew it. I knew
those two were fucking it. Now I

1554
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,279
got back. I'd love to know
how many of those forty five turn in

1555
01:48:08,359 --> 01:48:11,199
like a list of ten. Yes, you know what if you just made

1556
01:48:11,239 --> 01:48:17,119
it up at one time, bought
Sheila lunch just because we were standing in

1557
01:48:17,159 --> 01:48:21,119
line. Now, I was just
trying to be polite, you know,

1558
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:25,479
could you make it up. Could
you find the hottest person on your staff

1559
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:30,640
and go, yeah, banger nine
months ago or vice versa female, you

1560
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,039
get a hot eye in your staff, right, maybe you know, just

1561
01:48:33,039 --> 01:48:36,880
just for bragging rights, because if
you put it down and you don't tell

1562
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,039
that person you put it down and
it was a couple of years ago,

1563
01:48:40,119 --> 01:48:44,600
and you just make it up,
you go yeah back in twenty twenty one.

1564
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,199
Uh, okay, nailed them.
I did him. I did them,

1565
01:48:46,199 --> 01:48:48,800
But then I told him that's not
gonna get that, get you.

1566
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:55,600
That's not quite good enough. So
I wonder if anybody will pad this to

1567
01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:00,239
say they, you know, just
pad their bang their body count, just

1568
01:49:00,319 --> 01:49:02,600
lie. But really hot people from
VP. I don't know if there are

1569
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,600
hot people at VP. I'm just
saying you got to pick the hottest one

1570
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:11,640
on your staff and say you did
it all right. June twentieth, we're

1571
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:16,760
gonna be doing comedy at Remedy.
It is at Finger Lakes Casino and Racetrack.

1572
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,000
It's gonna be a whole lot of
fun. Come on down, get

1573
01:49:20,039 --> 01:49:24,439
the weekend start, Get the weekend
started early. And Greg has been kind

1574
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:28,479
enough he's gonna headline the show.
Dougie Phelps myself. We'll do the podcast

1575
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,880
earlier that night. There there'll be
drink specials. Come on in. It

1576
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,039
is open to the gaming floor,
so we'll be competing with a couple of

1577
01:49:34,039 --> 01:49:36,319
slot machines and things. But I
think we're gonna have a great tom It's

1578
01:49:36,359 --> 01:49:41,560
a really nice room comedy withling in
that bag, nothing at all, not

1579
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,640
at all. Every if you land
your joke right, jackpot, jackpot.

1580
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,319
That's that's the way I look at
it. But it will be a lot

1581
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:50,359
of fun and I hope to see
everybody there. And uh, Greg is

1582
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:55,399
very funny and you will enjoy him. And certainly Doug has said that your

1583
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,760
headlining said just killed. So I'm
glad. We can't wait. Good night

1584
01:50:00,079 --> 01:50:03,319
June twentieth. It'll be a Thursday
night, just a week from this Thursday.

1585
01:50:03,359 --> 01:50:08,439
Actually, oh my man, I
know time is flying along there,

1586
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:15,880
flying along. Any other gigs you
got before that, Les, I'm in

1587
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:21,920
a restaurant in oswego next week,
good warm up and then the Italian Club

1588
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:27,039
in Geneva, Italian American Club in
Jeva twenty eighth, the twenty eighth,

1589
01:50:27,079 --> 01:50:30,000
so right after that, all right, good for Greg going t I'm Bill

1590
01:50:30,039 --> 01:50:32,439
Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.