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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera. Jagan's allis is out. We happen to have Matt Ryndlsson from

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formerly of KVOA. Matt, how
are you? Steve? Great to be

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here, longtime listener, first time
guestos Saturday in studio. Ilread hate your

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voice on the radio. It's much
better than mine, too. Professional Ben

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Henry, how are you, Henry? I'm good. Good to have you

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in the show. We should have
a little fun. Jay is gone.

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Don't tell him I said that we
should have a good time. Jay listen

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when he's gone. I don't know
if he's on the beach right now,

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but he's headed there in Mexico.
Let's see if they let him back into

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the country, it goes back.
See what happens for that. Good have

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you, Matt? How you been
I've been great. You know, it's

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been been an interesting month, but
you know, I've been keeping the tabs

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on Arizona sports. So great to
be here and great to talk about.

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You got your feet wet here in
September October, right, and then unfortunate

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things happened, obviously. Have you
been able to at least enjoy the city

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while you've been here. Absolutely,
you know, it's been so much fun.

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And I actually arrived at the start
of the football win streak, so

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that was an absolute blast. And
also being a part of the basketball season

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as well, which we have some
basketball news today that we'll get to of

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course, but baseball season, softball
season, all of it's so much fun.

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But also enjoyed the city as well, so much so far, and

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play a lot of golf, a
lot of hiking. I just I love

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it here and underdegree temperatures are really
close to my heart. I like it.

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So, you know, you and
I spent some time together in La

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It just happenstance with Brian Peterson obviously
at the Western Regional, and I found

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out you were twenty eight years old, and I started to cry T shirts

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and stuff older than you. So
you have a nice future ahead of you.

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You just got to find that place, yeah, Yeah, you know,

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it's it's a matter of fighting my
time a little bit right now,

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and you know, excited about what's
next, but in no rush after you

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know, kind of an interesting path
the past year led me to where I

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was supposed to be here, and
you know, what things happen. I

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feel for other people across the country
that maybe had more roots or you know,

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families to think about and everything like
that. I'm just a lone wolf

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right now. So We're gonna see
where the winds take me and just excited

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and grateful for the experience that I've
had here so far. Okay, great,

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great, great, We're so Matt's
gonna be with me today. We

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have Henry men in the phone working
on the board. If you guys want

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to call five two oh four one, six seventy four forty the first hour,

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we'll have the oh, most of
the phones open because we have a

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busy show this afternoon. But let's
get to the breaking news. I'm sorry,

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Henry, We're gonna take this from
you because it is kind of breaking

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news. We've been waiting for a
while on this with Caleb Love decided to

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return. Absolutely, it's huge for
Arizona basketball because you get the raining Pac

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twelve player that you're back in the
fold and a position where you didn't really

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have an answer going into this offseason
with the starting two guard. Okay,

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so now you are. You are
the head coach. You're Tommy Lloyd,

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and I'm giving you that authority.
You're you are Tommy Lock. What do

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you hope to see from Caleb Love
this year? Well, I think you

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have to look at a team and
a roster that is not going to be

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distributed the same minutes wise as it
was last year. Caleb Love was bald

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dominant in a lot of situations and
what scored over nineteen points a game,

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but was not maybe the most efficient
at times that oh for nine clip from

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three in a sweet sixteen game.
And then you're in your business, you're

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known for the low your last haircut, and in his business, you're known

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for the last game you play,
right, and when you shoot like that

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the guys and he shot like that
every now and every now and again.

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And if you're a shooter, what's
the one thing you don't want to do?

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Shoot like that every now and again? Right? So I think his

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role you saw said bald dominant,
he's more of a two. Yes,

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any so now they have to find
his one and he has to be a

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better two, right right, am? I not right? But it's Jaden

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Bradley a better fit at the one
than Kylin Boswell was last year because we

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saw the hot and cold streaks with
Kylin Boswell as well, and we didn't

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see those cold streaks with Jayden Bradley. He was much more of a two

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way player at that point composition.
And maybe he can be somebody that's a

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more effective distributor every time down the
floor as opposed to just those highlight reel

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passes. Henry, you were going
to say something with Caleb. No,

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No, okay, I thought you
gonna say something right before. But okay,

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so you said maybe he'll be a
better ball distributor. The maybe is

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maybe not. I mean there's some
doubt and that maybe not that you say,

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but maybe he is that doubt.
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So Uh. The one thing that
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Caleb was kind of ball dominant.
To me, that's too much of a

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ball hoggish And I don't want to
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did. Uh. And and Bradley
and kJ were fantastic get together. Right.

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You know, they brought him,
they brought him back in the Clemson

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game, specifically in other games before
that, Henry, Yeah, I was

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just gonna say people forget that Jaden
Bradley was the starting point guard for the

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Alabama team when they were the one
two years ago. Right, and I

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talked to people from Alabama at that
LA Regional and they said they were excited

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about what his prospects were, but
also a little disappointed with maybe some of

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his inefficiencies his freshman year at Alabama. He was pretty efficient last year for

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Arizona, especially down the stretch in
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playing some huge minutes against Dayton in
that round of thirty two game. If

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he can show that at a consistent
level, that's a big deal. My

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only concern with the two with Love
and Bradley together in the laneup, they

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both love to have the ball and
they love to get to the basket.

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There's three other dudes on the team
that made the ball too, so it's

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going to be how much are they
going to have the ball and use it

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to score? Because once Bradley gets
it, that's either downhill and a shot,

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and I know both of them are
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game. That's going to probably need
to improve with each other and for the

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others. Yeah, and there are
a lot of positives with Love coming back.

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There are you know, a few
negatives as you as you might have

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mentioned as well. But I think
the big thing and when you look at

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basketball at a high level, and
I know it's a very different game between

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the college and the program, but
a lot of aspects reflect each other on

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that. You neque closers in the
college game, and there was nobody last

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year that's on this current roster that
showed the ability and willingness to close games

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and take the big shot like Caleb
Love did. So if you were bringing

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in maybe a Josnsnan, if he
was an early enrollie, would he be

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someone who was ready to elevate to
that role? Is kJ lewis a good

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enough shooter to elevate to that role? Is Jayden Bradley a good enough shooter

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to elevate to that role? We
know what Caleb Love is from a closer

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standpoint, and he has hit some
huge shots in his career between North Carolina

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and Arizona. Right. No,
if you make that point, you win

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that point because he is he is
the closer. If you're going to go

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to a guy he didn't do it
against the Florida School in Vegas, but

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he has that potential and that he
had some big shots too. But he's

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going to be known for that.
Oh, I see this on your resume,

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mister Love. You didn't do well
against Clemson? What was up with

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that? You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,

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he says, how come you couldn't
finish that game? Until he does,

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we will sit and wait. You
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right right, and it is for
him. This team is going to be

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loaded. We all know that it's
going to be fantastic for the Big twelve.

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How and this is why Tommy Load's
going to pay pay five million dollars

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a year. How did you get
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of the bench is he gonna use? How do you use as many guys

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as you brought in? I mean, the three portal pickups they got are

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all guys. They can play legitimate
minutes on this team. Trey Townsend,

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the Horizon lea player of the Year
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four position, probably that replacement for
Keyshaw Johnson. Toby walk is going to

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play some minutes. That's probably a
reserve forward role. Anthony del Orzo from

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Campbell is going to be a shooter
off the bench. How many minutes can

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he play? Can they ride the
hot hand as well when you have a

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ten man rotation, and some of
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But non conference is going to be
really interesting for this team, especially

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with like a home game against Duke
and McGale. I mean, it's gonna

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be a fun year. It's gonna
Bero Henry and I'm sure you're not concerned

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or whatever the word is with Bobo
leaving, with Boswell leaving and some of

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the other guys leaving, I think
they're gonna miss some of Pelly's playmaking ability.

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That's we don't know the guys who
left the purpose on purpose. Yes,

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yeah, I mean Ballow it's gonna
hurt sometimes. Just I thinks still

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needs like another year to fully get
into what Ballo was. But Boswell,

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I think Bradley was just ready to
replace him and be a better player than

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he was. Yeah, I think
you haven't seen Have you seen Henry play?

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I think was here when you were
here, right, you were a

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freshman. Yeah, yeah, but
you saw Henry play as a freshman.

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I think he's gonna be fantastic.
He's got more he's more of a four

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than he is a five, and
he can swing it outside. I expect

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big things from him as well.
So the game is a lot deeper than

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the last years. The thing about
it is does it matter to Tommy?

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You know, on paper, yes, but if Tommy doesn't use them.

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But at the same time, at
the point we have to call a spade

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of spade, and the fact that
they had really really strong injury luck last

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year, and very few other teams
in college basketball were is unnicked and brudes

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as Arizona was pretty much the entire
so they didn't have to go to the

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bench. I don't think one starter
missed the game because of injury. Yeah,

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I mean Kyland went out a couple
of games with that shoulder injury.

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You know, we saw Pella get
nicked up and Caleb get nicked up,

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but they didn't miss games. I
mean the props of the training staff for

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that too. We'll see what happens
with that, So good news. If

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you're a Caleb Love fan and the
Arizona basketball fan, I know that I

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have some friends and in my mind
too, Caleb's got to kind of be

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more of a team player. And
that's just me saying this than he has

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been in the last year. And
I think what he wanted to do,

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he said all the right things last
year, what I was really impressed with

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and what I wanted to try and
find with my lineup. Questioning a lot

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of times with Caleb was is he
committed to being the full, well rounded

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player or is he committed to being
the guy? Is he committed to being

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that a that star? And I
think his assist numbers, his assist at

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turnover ratio is willingness to play hard
nosed on ball defense showed so many things

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in that he was willing to adapt
to this Tommy Lloyd's system and become a

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better player and evolved and he did. He went out the rebounds too.

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Tommy wanted some more all around play. He did get it. Now he

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has to be just more efficient,
more efficient. You know, if he

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takes twelve shots, hit seven,
you know, hit seven eight, you

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know, be efficient with this don't
take nineteen right, you know, I

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think one one game Tommy said,
okay, you got twenty four. Let

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the other guys kind of join in, you know, ye, we don't

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need you like this all the time. And they needed almost at too many

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times last year. They needed him
to shoot somewhat of that volume of shots

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because it was the games where Pella
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was playing well, I mean you
had times where he you had a really

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well distributed scoring effort. One thing, one particular game that comes to mind

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for me is the blowout over ASU
at home. If they can get more

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games like that where they distribute and
keep the scoring balance. They were at

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their best when all five starters scored
in double figures, and I believe they

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did that double digit times last year. So let me tell you something real

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quick. Another breaking news up came
just now because Caleb came out or came

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back. Sondan is now going to
issue Oh wow, what a change massive

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the dominoes. I've started, YEP, because players want to play, and

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Bobby Hurley has an out great recruiting
class up there as well. They got

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to I believe the number two center
in the nation for this year's the best

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recruit ever. Yeah. Yeah,
And so now Sondan is I mean,

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he's reclassifying, I believe to this
year. I don't know if he had

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fully made that decision yet, but
I think his plan was to reclassify.

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And when he reclassified, he got
ranked also as a top thirty recruit in

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the nation. So he's going to
issue a issue. Has a couple of

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good players up there with the it's
gonna be fun, It's gonna be fun.

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That's not a that's not a surprise
because there had been talked that if

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something happens here, he could go
somewhere else. The love domino fell and

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it took with him a pretty good
recruit. But Arizona has a really good

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recruiting class coming in well, Carter
Bryant, Jamuri Phillips, Emmanuel Steven.

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I mean, this is a crewp
that can come in and all contribute and

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all play right away. And when
you add those guys to these transfers,

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it still is ten deep with or
without son On. Yeah, Okay,

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anybody want to call us, please
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have time, we only have like
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to our guests, and we're loaded
with guests today and Matt's our in host

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guest, in house guest with a
co host. We're gonna have Jim Rosborough

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from Pema College and women's basketball program, obviously long time assistant. We're going

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to talk a little about mister Bill
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and we'll talk about some of the
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the book, the recent book that
I wrote, and his time at the

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Pima. There's that. And then
we're gonna have Randy Acetta from Run Tucson

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at the four to fifteen hour.
He has a big run this weekend.

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If anybody knows' running it's Randy locally. He's been doing it for a long

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time. A big event on Saturday
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going to have him. We had
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for today's show. Is the four
to forty time slot to talk about this

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weekend's big games? Big games?
Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, And it's

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funny because they faced Grand Canyon,
right, Grand Canyon has been a pain

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in their ass right right, and
look looking forward to kind of all the

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games this weekend. Do you want
Baseball called this the most loaded regional in

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the field, which is incredible because
I mean they do have the best four

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seat Grand Canyon is a dangerous team. But you know, West Virginia sneaky

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team in the Big twelve. Dallas
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Beat Arizona in Dallas earlier this year. But Arizona you want in the tournament,

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Well, this is who you have
to play. Yep, good luck,

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Welcome to the dance, to the
dance. Okay, we're gonna take

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a break here, come back and
get a hold of Jim Rosborough and talk

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is I on the Ball with Steve
Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen

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fifteen. Hey, welcome back Tojoining
the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera. Jay is out
today. Today we have co hosts

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Matt Reynoldson with us CA. Now
on the phone, we have m Ronsborough,

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former Arizona basketball coach, now with
PEMA Community Women's Basketball. Jim,

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how are you really well, Steve? How are you guys? We're doing

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well, Thank you very much.
You kind of enjoyed Tucson right now.

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It's in the one hundred degrees for
the first time this year. Hey,

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are you great? No, it's
not bad. I think I just mentioned

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to you. I did have a
knee replacement here just about a month ago.

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So I haven't been outside jogging or
anything else. Don't intend to be.

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It's not been too bad inside working
on my knee and so on and

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so forth. But you're right,
it's hot. You need to just stand

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yourself up, get on the ping
pong table and play a little. That's

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all. Yeah, I'll help.
Hey, sad news. I want to

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say sorry and condolences because you you
were very close to mister Bill Walton.

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Yeah, Steeviee was. He became
a pretty good friend. We had Luke,

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as you know, for five years, and Bill was a wonderful basketball

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parent. He never interfered. He
never questioned why I was Luke not playing?

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He never questioned why he's getting the
ball more anything about it. He

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was really, really, really a
good basketball fair. And then you remember

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the times because you were at the
games. He'd sit down in the student

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section at the south end of the
gym at the time and stand up cheering

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up and there and in the student
section and the other thing. Cow many

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mention this meet yesterday they were looking
over on the east side of the Stateum

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and there was a long line up
the stairs. I mean twenty your thirty

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people lined up on the stairs and
they looked over and it was they were

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waiting for Bill Walton to sign autographs. And they continued to watch Steve and

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he took a few seconds with every
single person asked about him, signed whatever

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they wanted, and really showed a
personal interest. And that's you know,

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you've seen all the tribute the last
you say, that's what he was.

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He was just really, really a
good basketball friend and friend of many.

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And I had a little personal deal
with him, Steve. He was fairly

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vocal about the fact that he would
like to have seen me replace Lute.

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That kind of endeared me to him
a little bit too. So, yeah,

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he was a good friend and somebody
I really trusted and liked. Well,

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one of the last times or one
of the last times I spent a

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lot of time with him, And
I think you put this together, helped

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put it together. Was that the
night at the Realto I think it was,

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and when he spoke and he got
on the band he started playing the

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drums or something. It had to
be nine years ago. Do you remember

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that night now? Yeah, I
remember it exactly. And the whole thing

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was it was posted some sort of
panel discussion, Steve, and you know,

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if you were there, you know
what happened or anybody. There was

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one question It went to Bill and
that was the end of discussion. He

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talked for I don't know what,
ten twelve minutes or something and just went

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on and off. Turned out to
not really be a panel discussion that turned

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to be turned out to be a
lectures from Bill. Well, I do

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remember the night very very well.
Yeah, right, we have Do you

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want to suppose the absolutely jem.
I think one of the biggest things that

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we've heard the past few days about
Bill Walton is not just the the memoriam

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of his career or you know,
even his broadcasting career, but it was

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what you said that he did make
time for people, that he did care

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and I think that that's one of
the best legacies that anybody can leave sports

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or otherwise. You know, you
mentioned in your anecdote just what a great

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human he was as far as just
caring about others and taking time for people.

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But you know how much did he
it kind of mesh that into his

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work, would you say? Well, I mean one thing, just ins

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in the side now here, We've
talked for two or three or four minutes

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and we haven't mentioned his basketball career. What. Yeah, probably better known

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for being such a good guy,
you know what I mean. I you

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know, and a lot of people
didn't like the fact that he'd get on

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the air for the Syracuse versus Arizona
game here and start talking about the biology

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center up nor to some roots on
a tree or something. I mean,

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he went off on tangents and the
best ones were with Dave Passion where he

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was dumping popcorn on Dave's head and
he was eating a cupcake with a light

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candle on it. Month But that
was all part of personality, part of

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the show, part of the warmth, and you didn't have to work,

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and you could change your chan if
you wanted to. But he was really

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entertaining and it kind of expressed itself
in that warmth. So I think he

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messed his career if this is what
you're asking his career and the type of

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personality he was, and it just
wasn't all about him being a great basketball

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player. It was more about him
really being a good, caring person and

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involved in the world where, you
know, trying to do a better job.

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Ever everybody he met. I think
you're a little older than him.

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I'm being kind to you, Jim
there, but could you talk about how

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good of a player is? This
is not a comedy show, Gude.

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That's why I love you, Jim
so So. I watched A thirty for

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thirty a couple of times now when
it came out originally, and then again

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on Sunday night or Monday night when
he when he passed, and fantastic,

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I'll watch it a third time because
it's so good. Uh. And the

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one thing. I don't think that
people realize just how good of a basketball

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player he was. Right, he
was. You know, Luke had some

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of that see the court, passed
the ball to the right person type of

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thing. Could do You remember when
you were younger and he played. How

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good of a player he was?
Well, I mean, you know,

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I, like you guys, followed
basketball and I think it was against Memphis

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that he went twenty one for twenty
two in the national title game. And

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you know, you you heard about
those guys at UCLA and right when we

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were getting started in the profession being
I guess me, you guys are too

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young. But you know the big
streak that Notre Dame beat I think they

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weren't eighty eight in a row.
And all you heard at college basketball was

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UCLA John Wooden, Bill Walton,
the famous one. Bill. I came

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in and said, coach, I'm
not gonna cut my hair. John Wooden

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said, you're not practicing. So
next thing, Walton was out getting his

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haircut. Yeah, you know,
because it was my profession because I'd grown

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up with basketball. Of course you
knew about Bill Walton. He was,

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along with Kareem the two biggest names
of the time and so yeah, we

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knew right away about him and kept
track of his career and everything else did

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did and maybe real quick to the
point of I don't think I'm exaggerating here.

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Luke had a little of his dad
in him in terms of seeing the

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court, know, and you had
him at the high post, right,

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so he get the ball to the
right people. Yeah, if if there

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was a zone, and you could
ask anybody in town now that followed basketball,

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if somebody was in a two three
zone or one two two zone,

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or even a one three one,
you could just count on Luke Walton come

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into the high post. He was
a single zone breaker. And even out

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with our girls, I mentioned Luke's
name and try to get them to do

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anything like he was doing up at
the high post. He was smart and

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and I don't know if you heard
the other day, Shaquille O'Neal was talking

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about it all and he said,
well, and I talked to Luke,

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and one good story I did hear
about Luke about how good he WASKI.

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O'neo got traded to Orlando, I
think, and the next thing he was

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telling me Orlando brass, you guys
got to get Luke Walton over here.

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He's the only guy that gets me
the ball. Well, that's how Luke

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was. He knew where his bread
was buttered. He was a smart player.

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You saws, both of you guys
saw him. He was really,

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really, really a smart, smart
basketball player and got a lot out of

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his physical attributes. He was really
a great player too. Jim, I

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want to ask, how much do
you think both Bill and let's so Bill,

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but more so Luke in this style
of play was maybe ahead of its

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time because you see the current NBA
and these points centers taking over the league.

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Nicola jokicch should be the prime example
of that and his passing ability,

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but people consider Bill Walton one of
the best front court passers in league history.

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Luke Walton obviously played at the high
post and was able to take a

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part of two three zone. How
much has you know, as you look

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through kind of the recent history of
basketball, I'd say recent, but probably

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sixty or seventy years of basketball,
how much has that kind of been sort

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of a blueprint for history repeats itself
in the form of this point center and

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someone that can really open up the
floor in multiple ways on a basketball court.

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If you've been watching some of the
highlights on there. And Bill may

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not have been up at the top
of the key where Jokich is, but

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Boyu was making some great passes.
I think there's one when he's with when

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he makes a no look to a
cutter behind him, he gets a rebound

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or something or no look that Larry
Bird. I mean, he had a

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great, great sense and he was
more maybe eight to ten to twelve,

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the great offensive rebounder and at maybe
eight ten twelve. He wasn't up top

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like Jokis, but he was,
if you want to say, point center.

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He was an awful good passer and
gave him another guy that they had,

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and he was a good shooter.
Now you again, you've watched his

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shot was a little bit funny.
Boy he made him and he was a

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good shooter. And then Luke same
type of same type of thing, great

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great feel for the game up there, great passer, made everybody look good.

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And that's really what Jokics and some
of these guys do. They're making

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people look good. So is it
a repeat. It's kind of a repeat

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inasmuch as they're getting the ball due
to play at the big players now and

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they're making good passes and not just
right down at the loock. So I

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think that's pop. They have pretty
good thought. So, Jim, I

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want to ask you. I heard
area I'm gonna talk about this, and

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it may have been old or so. You've been in the business a long

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time. He said, college basketball
players have gotten more physical, better athletically,

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all that, and they look very
good playing the game, but many

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of them don't know how to play
the game because they don't practice the game.

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Would you agree that? Agree with
that? And they might have individual

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skills, but when they put them
on a team, they don't know how

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to pass the damn ball. Now, you two guys were involved pretty closely,

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and I've told you both probably many
times. I really like working for

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loud Olson. And today I was
talking with Josh Pastor and we were going

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00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:48.039
back and talking about how thorough Loot
was the teacher. And I know for

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sure, Steve, you were there
a lot of practices. Everything was taught,

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everything was precise on time, and
so on and so forth. And

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then somebody I heard today this is
a pack then coach that went to another

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school and that his kids when they
got into the pros because he had some

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good they were the worst passes the
worst. They knew nothing about the but

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you do. You're you guys are
exactly right. You got to work,

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00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:17.240
excuse me, work on your game, work on your sield, work on

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00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:22.039
your shooting. It's all. Absolutely
everything you do is based on repetition,

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right right. If you're not going
to get in the reps, you know

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you're not going to be a very
sound player. So these guys that came

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to here and I galloned them all, they can get on me if they

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00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.559
want. If they were lucky to
have somebody that's the man that keeping the

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fundamentals and how we were going to
do things. Well. One of the

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00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:42.599
things that I know because having covered
u A for so long, is that

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when Arizona players under Loot and you
and you left the program and went to

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the NBA, they were very NBA
ready because they knew what to do,

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00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.720
where to go. They have the
fundamentals and they knew basketball. Yeah.

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00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:02.799
I mean, and me maybe not
so much now as I am out at

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00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.759
PEMA rather than on a big stage, but we hear that all the time.

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Players came in and you can talk
about let's say, or Jason Terry

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00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.480
or any of these guys, and
they knew basketball, they knew where to

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00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:21.039
be, they knew help side,
they knew pressuring shots, they knew everything

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00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.079
that you can think of because those
were things demanded and things that we're taught

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00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.680
here. And so again, these
guys should feel awfully lucky. And it's

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the same for du beause some of
these other really good teaching programs. You

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go there, you're talk fundamentals and
then you're going to have really a good

494
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chance to have a good pro career. But it's all in the teaching,

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00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.480
and it's all and what is demanded, that's all, and what is tolerated,

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00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.039
and you got to get it done. Yeah, no question, Jim.

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00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.839
You've never stopped developing players as well, though, and I think that's

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00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.160
one of the unique opportunities you get
at PIMA. I want to ask you

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about one specific player. Obviously,
you guys had an incredible season this year,

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you know, finishing in seventh place
in the NJCAA National Tournament, but

501
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.960
you had a first team All American
as well, one that dropped forty three

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00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.440
in your final game. Riley Waller
headed to San Jose State. She developed

503
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.200
so well with the Aztecs. What
can you say about her development and how

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00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:22.200
is that a picture of how you
want to bring athletes into Pima and develop

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00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.279
them as individuals and as basketball players. Well, you're exactly right. Forty

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three pointer is in the top five
or six games. I've only seen a

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00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.359
couple, maybe seeing you were there. I don't know for sure, but

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00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.920
a guy named Derek Murdoch from Providence
came in years ago and went over forty.

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One of the guys I think from
Michigan, the Fab five might have

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gone over forty. Reeves went over
forty. Damon Stotdomayer a couple of times.

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And those are the only people I've
seen go over forty. And then

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here's Riley Wall about five to four. It's the absolutely tough as nails,

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really one of the better players all
that I've seen, just tough as nails.

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In the game where she got forty
three, I think she went twenty

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for twenty two from the free tow
line because they were just following the the

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Jesus out of her. They couldn't
get the ball away from her, they

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00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.079
were pressing, they were doing everything. He was making threes. It's really

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one of the really really good games. And so now I'm going to pray

519
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.280
and see our staff and God and
everybody. But it's exactly what she was

520
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.199
taught to do. Keep the ball
in the middle of the floor, get

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your jump shot, move it,
come back, and get it move in

522
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.719
our motion offense. So everything that
happened to her for the forty three point

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game was what she's been taught,
what was demanded, what we wanted her

524
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to do. But on top of
everything else, she's really really good player

525
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too. He's really really a nice
girl, just going to be a sophomore

526
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:51.159
in college for crying out loud,
comes from a wonderful family and deserves to

527
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be a first team All American.
And I think this is maybe the fourth

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00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.280
fifth or sixth row and a year
in a row where we've had the first

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team All American. But she is
really, really, really a good player.

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Yeah. Yeah, well, Jim, I appreciate your time. Be

531
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well, take care of that knee. Well do good to talk with you

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00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.039
guys, stay cool. Yeah,
thank you you, jaj be Will Jim

533
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Rosboro. We have some quick breaking
news before we take a break. Jamari

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Phillips's tea committee. Yeah. I
even just said it last last block is

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that's you know, he'd be part
of the rotation but you know he's uh.

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They're saying that Texas is a possibility
there Maybe usc He'll have a lot

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of options to talk more about this
on either side, the revolving door continues.

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Those why fast, doesn't it?
It does, especially when we have a

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lot of news like we have.
It's good to talk to him. Covered

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Jim and I since I got here. I was twenty three year twenty EIGHTISHU

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and I covered the bestball team for
a long time. And the best thing

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about talking to Jim is that he
can put things into words as far as

575
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you know, a bigger picture and
he can just talk ball with you as

576
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well. So, I mean,
that's a great thing about talking to a

577
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coach like that as you get into
the x's and no's, but you get

578
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into the bigger picture as well.
And Jim's great at that. He's saw

579
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he was Salot's right hand man for
a long time. A long time.

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00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.239
Okay, uh, Hey, like
we talked about right before we left,

581
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Phillips, it's gone, yeah,
jam Uri Phillips. We talked about depth,

582
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.519
right and the talent it's still there. It's still there, still there,

583
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.199
it's just in different forms. Yeah, there's a there's a lot of

584
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.840
carousel turning today, so kind of
just recapping all of our news. Just

585
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.920
before we went on the show,
Caleb Love announced he's returning to the U

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00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.440
of A. Uh. Joe Sonsen
on the commit from He was a top

587
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:58.559
five recruit in the twenty twenty five
class, reclassified to twenty twenty four,

588
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:02.239
was committed to Arizona. Quote tweeted
Love's announcement and said love this and then

589
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.519
twenty minutes later decommitted and went to
ASU. So Joe Sonson, I'm no

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00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.159
longer in the fold and Jamari Phillips
also no longer in the fold. Back

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00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.760
coming down this past half hour,
the roster turned Steve, what's the one

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thing that students Well, now,
with nil, there's two things. Probably

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what's the two things now that kids
want to do when they get to college.

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They want to play play and they
want to get paid be cano because

595
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.800
those are the two. Now before
it was I want to come and play

596
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.639
and right away. Yep, no
is how much do you get to pay

597
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.079
me to play? Right? But
you have you still have a five star

598
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.559
forward committed to the class and you
know, four star center. So I

599
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.639
mean, you got a couple guys
in Carter Bryant and Emmanuel Steven that are

600
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going to be impact players. And
you know what, Steven might be behind

601
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.079
a couple of players right away.
But my goodness, Carter Bryant, if

602
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.760
you saw him in the McDonald's All
American Game, you saw some of his

603
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.280
high school tape out of California,
I mean, this kid is ready to

604
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come in and contribute right away.
All kJ okay, okay. So now

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that you know that both of you
guys his time, now you know that

606
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.000
love is coming back. But you
lost these two kids. Grade me,

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I think it's probably a B plus, you know, I mean, I

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think it hurts to lose a guy
like Phillips, who I thought was a

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very you know, high caliber player, high ceiling player, especially as a

610
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.159
shooter. But you know, that
was something that's going to happen, and

611
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.880
it always sort of felt like it
was either love or synd On right especially

612
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.039
with his decision to reclassify. If
he had stayed in twenty twenty five,

613
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.599
and we knew that he was okay
with staying in twenty twenty five. Different

614
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.119
ballgame, but he wanted to reclassify. And I think, real quick,

615
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:35.920
I can get your grade. Well, we'll get there in a second.

616
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.440
I think that Boswell Buswell's decision had
a little of love in it too,

617
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.880
right, exactly, especially with Bradley
coming on so strong in a tournament,

618
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.199
right and us seeing kind of the
inconsistency throughout the end of the season from

619
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.880
Boswell. Oh, Henry, I'd
give it. I mean, I'm kind

620
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.679
of biased because last year's maybe my
last year, but I'm giving it an

621
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.239
a. I'm trying to win now. I know Tommy can get good players

622
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.280
in the portal and the I'm not
worried about the future right now. I'm

623
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.760
trying to get the best players we
can. So you sold the farm to

624
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.079
get the thing done today, exactly. Okay, did you see the posts

625
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.679
by Boswell and his physique. Yeah, yeah, it looks great, you

626
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.360
think, and you're thinking yourself,
how come you couldn't do that too?

627
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.360
Bunch of legal piets, I guess
that's it's it's addicting, you know,

628
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.760
you get down there, right we
yep, and that was only with a

629
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.320
thirty days span. That's what you
said, right, right, right.

630
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.079
But it's also if you want to
take stuff serious, guess what you do,

631
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:30.199
you take it serious. And a
lot of these guys do that in

632
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.559
the off season. To be honest
with you, like, the off season

633
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.159
is a time. From covering the
NFL for three plus years. That was

634
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.239
one of the things that I noticed
coming back into organized team activities or OTAs

635
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.719
as they call them, or mandatory
mini camp in June every year, is

636
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.119
that these guys look stacked and the
quarterbacks looked stacked. Y. You don't

637
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.639
see quarterbacks ripped at the end of
the season because you know they're in playing

638
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.039
shape. They're in you know,
they kind of get that gut a little

639
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:59.039
bit. You focus more on the
football specific workouts in the off season.

640
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.159
You're lifting heavy and you're getting shredded. And that happens with NFL and college

641
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.920
basketball team and the one of the
big reasons why that is because they're getting

642
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.000
paid to play and you better be
ready or someone else behind you is going

643
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.880
to take your job. Exactly somebody's
working in the gym behind you at all

644
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.679
times, and here they are,
so I don't know. I don't know.

645
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.679
I like your thought, Henry,
I agree with your thought, but

646
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.480
I'm not gonna be sold on your
thought because because now you have to really

647
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:28.280
do it, you have to really
get by, get to the lead,

648
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.639
get to the final four, because
if it doesn't happen, it's for not

649
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.360
well separating today, Steve, I
don't want to get your thought on this.

650
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.920
What do you think of this transfer
portal class? Because you pull the

651
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.599
Horizon Ly Player of the Year in
Trey Townsend, who will I think everybody

652
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.840
thinks we'll be a starter coming in
right away. And then forward depth in

653
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.239
Tobya Waka from Tennessee, guy who's
played a lot of power five basketball.

654
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.360
And then a really strong, sharp
shooter in Anthony del Orzo, guy who

655
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.920
can pour in twenty points a game
and get just really hot from deep.

656
00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:00.000
I'll bet you, I'll bet you
your first paycheck, when your next paycheck,

657
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.880
that he won't score twenty points of
games. There's a guy that's coming

658
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.760
back that's going to take a lot
of the shots. It's like lut when

659
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:14.480
he like Michael Jordan. Who's the
only guy to prevent Michael Jordan from scoring

660
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.280
more than sixteen points a game or
averaging sixteen points a game. Who can't

661
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.360
tell you his coach his coaches?
Coach lut was the same thing with Sean.

662
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.519
Sean had the free reign when he
had a chance to go free reign,

663
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.199
but Luke didn't want anybody going crazy. Everybody was a team type of

664
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:36.519
thing. We'll see if Caleb averages
nineteen twenty points a game, that means

665
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.199
that he's still the same Caleb Caleb
Love. Do you want the same Caleb

666
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.000
Love putting up sixteen seventeen shots a
game. Maybe you don't. Maybe you

667
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.639
want it more that sixteen or fifteen
point mark. But I think one interesting

668
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:52.159
thing about last year's roster construction is
we kind of get wrapped up into this

669
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.320
traditional roster construction for college basketball,
and what do most high level college basketball

670
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.599
teams have. It's a shooter coming
off the bench, one of the lethal

671
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.119
shooters that can come in and get
hot and drop four or five threes.

672
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:10.000
Henry, Welcome to the ball.
You're on the air grafter near you,

673
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:16.480
guys. This is a Gabe less
diminished voice. Gabe conciding how you guys

674
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.840
are doing good? Good, Gabe, what do you think about today's news.

675
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.840
I'm very happy in regards to Caleb
Love coming back. So so far,

676
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.880
so good, but the means so. The one thing that I was

677
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:37.519
gonna call in regards to is a
passing Bell Walton. You know I express

678
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.800
this on the show quite often.
I wasn't too big of a fan in

679
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:50.639
regards to Belle Waltson with his daily
tenantics in regards to how he does when

680
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.920
he was announcing the Arizona gamespod,
I'm just gonna, well, my my

681
00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:04.360
condolences for the Walton family and I
and we I think we gonna I think

682
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.280
when we got we are going to
miss him very much. And this is

683
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:15.440
coming from a person who surely has
his fair criticism in regards to Bill Walton.

684
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.079
Yeah, I think to be fair, Gabe, you're not alone with

685
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.280
that. I said, uh,
yesterday there or so after he had passed

686
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.639
that. Uh there he had his
critics and you you, yes, you

687
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:32.079
were one admittedly, but nobody nobody
disliked him. You know, everyone loved

688
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.360
him. They just didn't like how
we handled things on the radio. But

689
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.199
even then even them are saying we
loved him. Yes that makes any sense

690
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.519
because you loved him, you just
didn't like what he was doing. Yeah,

691
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.159
when he when he talks about the
flauna and the fauna of the Norn

692
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.840
desert or anything like that, I
mean I would to be I mean,

693
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:59.280
if he would be doing a podcast
with with a person who studies wildlife,

694
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.800
subscribe to that podcast because my major
is zerology and I'm gonna get a master's

695
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.079
degree in that, so so I'll
be the first person to talk to listen

696
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:20.400
to Bill Watson talk about the floora
fauna, about about any different eco system.

697
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.960
But my pet tree is you're supposed
to do a basketball game. Dude,

698
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.599
come on, can you at least
just talk about the game. Yeah,

699
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.000
you make a good point. I
mean it did feel like a podcast.

700
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:34.920
Well gave thanks for calling. I
hope you get better take an alogy

701
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.760
pay you bear down the Arizona Go
Cat. Thanks. We were talking about

702
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.800
what we're talking about the roster construction
or well you're your shoot off the bench.

703
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:46.519
They probably have that. They probably
they didn't have that last year.

704
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.039
I mean because you couldn't trust kJ
Lewis from outside last year. And I

705
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.960
think he's really developing his jumps out. Maybe in the off season. He

706
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.800
has that capability. Jane Bradley has
that capability, but neither showed it at

707
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.679
a really high clip from deep last
year, and it showed all year,

708
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.559
well not all year in January January
on, because November December looked very good.

709
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.079
I think they wanted Polias Moraskus to
play a bigger role. If you

710
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.320
had asked Tommy Lloyd before the season, no question, they very much wanted

711
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.400
Poulias Moraskus to play a bigger role, be that sniper off the bench.

712
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.360
Maybe Delorzo is that guy because he's
proven it at the college level if you

713
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:20.599
can play defense, because Moroscos could
not, and he could shoot it though,

714
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.119
So there's a nice little trade off
I think with Moroscos leaving and Philly

715
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.199
b you know, leaving with two
new guys coming in, Henry, I

716
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.239
hope you do get your president as
your senior year and get at least to

717
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.880
the final four. It would have
been nicer in Phoenix, all right,

718
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.920
Henry, Yeah, final four,
Henry, you got to be about twenty

719
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.480
one twenty. It hasn't been since
two thousand and one they got to the

720
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.360
final four, So you were not
even born, say, wouldn't you like

721
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:45.960
to go out on university and celebrate
it next year? Wouldn't have been quite

722
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:52.239
as fun without being arrested, Without
being arrested exactly, dude. But I

723
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.280
know you're a good kid, Henry. You're not gonna be doing it any

724
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.840
crazy jumping on cars and stuff like
that. So we'll see see what Tommy

725
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.559
does. Now. The balls in
Tommy's court, it is because he has

726
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.960
a loaded ten, loaded the roster. What's he gonna do with it?

727
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.719
Yeah, and then we talked about
the rotation a little bit earlier. How

728
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.079
does that ten shrink to eight or
how does that twelve shrink to ten?

729
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.679
Kind of as they go out on
November December. Okay, so Sott,

730
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.559
you want to play. You're you're
the tenth guy and you're pretty good.

731
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.960
You can be happy. Depends how
many minutes I get, you know,

732
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.119
it depends if there's a there's thirty
minute starters or if there's twenty minute starters.

733
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.039
You know, if you're the if
you're the tenth guy, you know

734
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.679
you're getting five to eight. Maybe
you're a tenth guy for a reason.

735
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.280
Yeah, so you gotta have to
make really good on that minutes or you're

736
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.159
gonna be unhappy. Right I'm checking
right now to see what the h to

737
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.679
see what the minutes distribution was last
year for for Arizona individually, I think

738
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.360
Caleb Love led the team in minutes. He did at thirty two point two.

739
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.039
I'd like to see that maybe around
twenty eight. You know, Pelo

740
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:53.840
Larson had thirty minutes a game.
That was that was a pretty good number

741
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.360
for him, somebody who can do
it all. But I'd like to see,

742
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.760
you know, some of those starters
a little closer to twenty eight,

743
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:06.159
maybe six minutes. Boswell was he
let's say twenty seven point one twenty seven,

744
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.800
and that was maybe too much.
Bradley about eighteen ish twenty. So

745
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.840
Bradley got up there, and so
I'd kind of like to see Jaydon Bradley

746
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.559
maybe be one of those highest usage
guys because I don't know if you truly

747
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:22.280
have a one behind Jayan Bradley to
come off with about j kJ was a

748
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.800
little bit shorter than that. He
was eighteen pointeen, and then Crevis at

749
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.760
twelve point two. Okay, so
you're looking at if they're gonna be about

750
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.880
twenty four twenty six, that means
they're going to be blowing out teams two

751
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.880
potentially. But I mean it depends
how much you can trust your second unit,

752
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.199
because if they mesh their second unit
more than just putting all three guys

753
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.840
in at the same time like they
did a lot last year, it's a

754
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:49.000
different different look. Need I remind
you what conference are getting into? Yeah,

755
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.920
so he's gonna play his best dudes
to win those games. Ye deep

756
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.320
conference. So if you're the tenth
dude, met like I said, you're

757
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:58.400
not gonna be in those games much
because there's a reason why you're the tenth

758
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.079
dude, right, right, So
there's the there's that trickery, right if

759
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.519
that's the right word. Who am
I going to play? How much do

760
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.440
I trust him? And I know
he's good, but and if he's not,

761
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.519
if he's not happy, it was
nice knowing you because we live in

762
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.480
the world of I'm out of here
if I'm not happy, Right, But

763
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.800
you know, I think Tommy Lloyd
does a very good job keeping people engaged

764
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.000
throughout the season. I know there
were some issues with Boswell last year with

765
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.719
you know, some of the some
of the conversations, some of those tough

766
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:30.079
conversations and of the things the broadcast
camera cop between them. Well, guess

767
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.840
what. Guess what if you're the
coach and your player is not doing what

768
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.519
you ask of him, guess what
you do you coach him? Yep,

769
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.599
you had a boss or I had
a boss. We all bosses. Guess

770
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.599
what if you don't do what they're
asking, Guess what they do they tell

771
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:49.599
you, or guess what you don't
work for them anymore? That's called And

772
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.199
now in the nil, guess what
you're getting paid X amount of money,

773
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.480
which is not just a small X
amount of money. You're getting paid to

774
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.480
do this and do it very well. If you don't do it very well,

775
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.280
guess what you gonna get replaced?
Right right? And we could see

776
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.800
we could see college. We could
see this team evolve in such a different

777
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.159
way than this past year's team did
because it was starting five same at the

778
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:13.360
beginning, the same at the end. We could see a guy, a

779
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.519
guy like Carter Bryant in those first
couple of games against you hadn't even mentioned

780
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:21.199
his name Western Tech State play five
minutes a game, and then you could

781
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:22.760
be starting a March Basters game by
the end of the year. These players

782
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.800
develop, especially under staff like Tommy
Lloyd has at Arizona. Do you think

783
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.840
can you guys are both young,
the kids, I know, we're generational,

784
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.639
and I you know, I used
to be this way too. The

785
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:37.639
kids understand that now cause you're getting
paid very well, don't screw it up

786
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.760
and you have to work your ass
off to because you're getting paid a lot

787
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:44.039
of money. I think there's a
lot of factors that kind of involved with

788
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.760
that. And Henry, you might
know a little bit more on the one

789
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.360
to one level how much AAU has
affected that as well. But I mean

790
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:58.119
this AAU culture has created sort of
an American basketball culture where people look out

791
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.440
for themselves very much summer league level
and even to some extent at the high

792
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:06.159
school level. And so this could
be their first real opportunity, you know,

793
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.400
even some guys that have transferred to
this could be their first real opportunity

794
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.719
to play on a cohesive unit,
to play for a culture like Tommy Lloyd

795
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.119
has established in Arizona that is very
team forward. How does that translate to

796
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.639
all these guys. I think it's
different for every guy, and they're not

797
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.920
used to that culture exactly. You
know, I'm used to be the guy

798
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.519
I am the guy on the team
that they relied on to score. What

799
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.000
do you mean to tell me,
I'm not that guy anymore? Right,

800
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.400
right, when we talk so much
about Tommy Lloyd's offensive teams, but this

801
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.159
is a guy that harps and harps
and harps and harps on defense. I

802
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.440
mean, Arizona was so efficient defensively
last year. And if you want to

803
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.280
come in here and you don't play
defense, you're not gonna play. Henry.

804
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.960
We gotta go, We gotta go, Hendry. I hope you didn't

805
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.400
take any of your breaking news that
we take a lot about it. So

806
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.320
we're gonna take a break. Now, come back, get the Henry's breaking

807
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.320
news, and then we're gonna have
a couple of great guests on the other side.