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It's just another example, another feather
in the cap for how Gavin Newsom has

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saved the day with California Healthcare.
So there's a story locally about a birthing

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center in Ti Larry County. Adventist
Health to Larry has closed its maternity ward.

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So I think this must be in
or near the city of Tilarry.

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To Larry County's expectant mothers, says
the story in GV wire have one less

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place to receive maternity care. As
of Thursday, a drop into Larry County's

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birthrate and the number of planned births
at Adventist Health to Larry led the decision

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to close the maternity ward, a
hospital official set after the close, mothers

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wanting to deliver their baby in a
hospital will have to go to Visalia,

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Redley, or Hanford. Adventist hopes
to be able to reopen again through local

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partnerships with health advocacy groups clinics,
said Kiyoshi Tomono, a Partnership and well

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Being executive at Adventist Health Central California
Network. But closing the department follows a

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trend in California of maternity wards shutting
down because of lack of demand. Hospital.

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Births have declined by sixty percent over
the past year at Adventist Health to

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Larry, and the hospital can no
longer sustain these services, said Tomno.

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This decline in births at Adventist Health
to Larry aligns with a significant drop in

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the birth rate into Larry County and
a significant decrease in births in California.

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More to Larry mothers are relying on
the emergency department. After the hospital closed

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in twenty seventeen, Ogyan's got in
the habit of not sending their patients to

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then to Larry Regional Medical Center,
said Heather van Housen, patient care executive

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for Central California Network of Adventist Health. Berths at the hospital came nearly all

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from mothers going into the emergency department, which Van Housen said is less safe

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then having a planned birth. In
twenty twenty two, the hospital provided services

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for twenty berths. By twenty twenty
four, that number had decreased to eight.

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If you want to do things and
do things well, you need to

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have to do more than five a
month, said Van Housen, who added

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that the ideal number was closer to
fifty. The hospital network explored a partnership

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with healthcare clinic Altura Centers for Health
to work with ogyn doctors in connecting them

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in their patients with Adventist Health.
Maternity wards closing all over California, Hilary

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is hardly the only hospital to close
its maternity ward. Matthew Beeler, the

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chief strategy officer with American Advanced Management, the health system taking over operations for

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Madera Community Hospital, said the company
is holding off opening the maternity ward at

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that hospital because of few planned berths. In the past decade, nearly fifty

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California hospitals have closed maternity wards.
Calmatters reported half of those closings came in

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the last four years. The trend
in Florida, where the state's legislature this

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year enacted a law allowing doctors to
deliver babies via c section outside of hospitals.

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According to the Kaiser Family Foundation,
the idea was to lower costs and

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give pregnant women a homeier birthing atmosphere. Now, the thing is there is

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it's not like Central California, though, has homere you know, birthing center

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atmospheres for people. So what's going
on here? I suspect what's happening here

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is part of this bigger problem with
medical and the way that Democrats and Gavin

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Newsom have sort of managed the entire
system of healthcare for lower income people in

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California where basically we have this problem. We have a lot of lower income

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people who need health care and can't
afford it themselves. So how do you

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do it? And basically what Newsom
has done is he has doubled down,

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tripled down, quadrupled down, quintupled
down on medical as medical as the blanket

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solution for everyone in California who needs
healthcare, extending and extending and extending and

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extending medical eligibility. And I think
Democrats in general, not just in California,

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but nationwide. Democrats in general have
realized Medicaid is super popular. Medicaid

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expansion, the expansion of Medicaid eligibility
that happened under Obamacare, has been a

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very popular aspect of Obamacare. It
gives you coverage, It gives you some

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kind of baseline coverage, and Democrats
love it. Democrats also like using it

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as a political cudgel against Republicans.
You all remember when David D. Valadeo

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lost his seat in Congress for two
year stretch. How TJ. Cox beat

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him for one two year cycle?
How did he do it? David Valadeo

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voted to repeal Obamacare early in the
Trump years, and Valadeo was able to

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run on and TJ. Cox rather
was able to run on. David Valadeo

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voted to take away medical coverage from, however, many tens of thousand,

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hundreds of thousands of people who live
in his district. That's simple fact of

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the matter is that Obamacare expanded hugely
the pool of people eligible for Medicaid in

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California. That's medical So Democrats really
like it, and Gavin Newsom comes into

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office. He comes into office with
these grandiose promises about he's going to have

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universal single payer California healthcare, and
he's blowing that trumpet before or he comes

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into office. Oh, I'm gonna
have universal health care coverage. Then he

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comes into office and all of a
sudden is hit by all the lobbyists from

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all the insurance companies, and magically, suddenly, all of a sudden changes

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his tune. The insurance companies do
not want to be run out of business

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in California, so what do they
do? Well, they convince Gavin Newsom,

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hey, instead of pushing for a
single payer system, why don't you

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instead just keep expanding medical eligibility until
every single person in California is covered.

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So that's what Newsom has done.
He expands and expands and expands and expands

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medical eligibility. And the deck of
cards that is medical just keeps getting taller

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and taller and taller and taller.
And I say it's a deck of cards

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because we can't afford to cover all
all of these people. It's not working.

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The insurance reimbursements that providers get from
taking care of medical patients isn't enough

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to cover the cost of care.
You're losing money on medical patients. It's

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not even a question of breaking even. You're losing money on medical patients very

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often, for very many different kinds
of fields of health care. And maybe,

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you know, maybe for if you
have one specific thing that you're doing

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that you can set up your clinic
and you're you can set things up,

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so it's that you know, you're
turning through x number of patients per hour

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doing this service at this reimbursement rate
on average, and you're averaging this many

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dollars per hour, and your costs
for your nurse practitioner or your doctor whatever

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are lower. Okay, maybe there
are some people who can make money on

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some things, but in general,
the imbursement rates for medical are so low

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that doctors, that hospitals, that
clinics are losing money taking medical patients.

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The only people making money off medical
are federally qualified health clinics. And why

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are they making money Well, because
they have a bunch of federal subsidization.

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That's the only way it works is
if they get a big infusion of federal

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cash on top of the state funded
reimbursements from medical. So this financial unsustainability

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of medical is leading to problems of
yes, you have medical coverage, but

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where do you go for care?
You have medical coverage, but where are

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you going to actually get your healthcare? In Madeira, where's your hospital?

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Oh, it went out of business. Madera Community Hospital went out of business.

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Why did it go out of business, Well, it went out of

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business because the overwhelming bulk of their
patients are medical patients. They don't have

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the same portfolio of investments that Valley
Children's has, which, by the way,

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we can talk about Valley Children's later
on in the show. They don't

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have the same portfolio of investments and
they don't have the same kind of philanthropic

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support that Valley Children's has. So
as a result, Madera community, they're

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taking care of all these medical patients, all these medical patients, and they're

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losing money on Eventually, the hospital
just became a financially unsustainable venture and it

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went out of business. And there
are other hospitals around California facing if not

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quite as dire, maybe they're not
quite shut down, but there are other

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hospitals in California facing the same difficulty. Now for us, you know,

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we right to life, I mean, we dealt with this in the area

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of prenatal and maternity care. Okay, so what are we seeing in the

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city of Fresno the dynamics of medical
And by the way, Gavin Newsom has

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ramped up this unsustainability of medical by
basically we're adding more and more and more

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people who are eligible for medical benefits
without being able really to increase the pot

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of money from the state to reimburse
providers for taking care of medical beneficiaries.

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And guess what, Gavin Newsom just
added another humongous Gavinusom in the state legislature

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added another humongous population of people who
are now eligible for medical illegal aliens.

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Everyone under a certain income threshold is
eligible for medical regardless of your immigration status.

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Right you can see the billboard.
I've seen the billboard driving south on

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the ninety nine in Spanish declaring,
you know, I forget, I forget

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the actual phrase it did, no
s importa status the emigression. I can't

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I can't remember exactly what the phrase
is in Spanish, but it's loudly proclaiming

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you're eligible for medical regardless of your
immigration status. So that's the situation.

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So Gavin Newsom's adding in another huge
population of people into medical. Meanwhile,

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the state is facing a seven three
billion, however you want to slice the

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math budget deficit. Now, it
seems like there are some other factors that

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may be in place specifically with this, with this maternity ward at Adventist Health

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to Larry, Adventist Health Larry closed
its maternity ward. Part of it seems

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to be so many mothers are just
going to the er to deliver rather than

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going through the normal procedures at the
maternity ward at Adventist and so basically they

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were like well, if we can't
sustain this ward, if we don't have

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people going there, but why are
people going to the emergency department to deliver

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their babies? Well, very often
what's happening. I think the dynamics of

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what's happening is you have more and
more women who are on medical and you

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have fewer and fewer options for clinics
or docs or nurse practitioners who are willing

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to take medical patients because they lose
money. And this vicious cycle gets worse

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and worse and worse where fewer docs
want to take more and more patients.

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So if the first appointment, if
you realize you're pregnant, and your first

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appointment you can get is like two
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out, you might not come.
Especially if you're kind of in a chaotic

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like home situation or something, you
might not come. It's over twenty percent

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of women in South Fresno who get
no prenatal care at all before they deliver

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their baby. The first time they
see a doc for their pregnancy is when

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they crash the ober At community or
at Saint Agnes and apparently at Adventist into

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Larry, which is how most of
these women are given birth. They're given

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birth by just they're pregnant, they
haven't seen a doctor the whole pregnancy,

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seemingly, or that they haven't had
any kind of consistent care over the course

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of their pregnancy, and they're crashing
the maternity er right when they're about to

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deliver. So this is just yet
another example of where and I'm not saying

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there's an easy answer here, but
we're just doubling and tripling and quadrupling down

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on the medical solution for everyone's healthcare. And I just don't I don't see

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how this is sustainable. When we
return, we'll talk about Gavin Newsom's broken

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promises about single payer health care.
That is next on the John Girardi Show.

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Story about the birthing center in to
Larry being closed down. Adventist Health

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to Larry at its birthing center and
it decided to close down for lack of

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demand. All these women are going
to the er to deliver their babies.

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And I'm connecting this to the broader
problem of medical in California that Gavin Newsom

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has just decided that medical and expanding
medical eligibility to basically everyone to cover up

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all the holes of all the different
populations in California that didn't have health insurance.

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Gavin Newsom's just decided, Oh,
I'll just expand medical eligibility and then

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I'm done. I've accomplished single payer
healthcare now, or excuse me, I've

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accomplished the goal of universal healthcare,
specifically, not single payer, which is

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what Newsome campaigned on in twenty eighteen. In twenty eighteen, when Newsom's running

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for governor, he said, oh, oh, Democrat politicians always talk the

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talk about single pair and then when
it comes time to deliver, they always

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kick the can down the road.
I'm not gonna do that. And then

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he proceeded to do precisely that.
So let me talk about that, about

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this broken promise by Newsom of about
single payer health care. Now, let

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me just be clear. I am
not saying single payer health care is good.

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I am not saying single payer health
care does not come with enormous risks,

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dangers, as well as enormous cost. Okay, it would require a

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massive tax increase. It would.
It's a massive, massive undertaking. But

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there is a certain kind of internal
coherence to it that does not exist with

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Gavin Newsom's let's just expand medical strategy. All Right, Gavin Newsom is basically

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in this position, this awkward position, where he he he can't. He

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feels as though he just cannot increase
taxes that much more on Californians. We're

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already the most overtaxed state in the
Union. He is incredibly reliant on a

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very small percentage of the California population
whose tax revenue is propping up the whole

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system. If they all move,
this whole thing becomes unsustainable, or if

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they move their assets out of California, or whatever happens, this whole thing

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becomes unsustainable. He's basically reliant on
about one hundred thousand super high income taxpayers,

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you know, maybe high investment income, high whatever income, whose capital

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gains taxes and income taxes are sustaining
the whole shebang. And frankly, we

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might be at the point where Newsom
has already ticked them off so much that

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we are now in unsustained ability mode. I mean, the state budget this

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year is looking like it's gonna have
a seventy three billion dollar deficit. Now

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that we're out of this La La
land we were living in where in twenty

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twenty two we had a budget surplus, and Newsom was like, oh,

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happy days are here to stay.
No, we had a surplus because we

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had a huge infusion of COVID cash
from the federal government. That was not

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the norm. That was the deviation
the last two years of running deficits.

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That's the norm, much to Jerry
Dyer's chagrin, because of course, in

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twenty twenty two, when we had
a surplus, that's when Gavin Newsom promised

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him, Oh, yeah, we'll
give Fresno two hundred and fifty million dollars

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for downtown revitalization efforts. Here's the
first fifty million. And then twenty twenty

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three, Ah, we have a
deficit. Sorry, I'm not going to

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give you the second installment. Twenty
twenty four, Ah, we have another

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budget deficit. I'm not going to
give you the second installment this year either.

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So now we're two years behind and
guess what, Jerry, I don't

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think that money's ever coming all right
anyway, So again I'm not I'm saying

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single payer healthcare is crazy expensive and
would require some kind of tax increase,

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and the argument in favor of doing
that is, well, the healthcare system

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in general is so expensive that yes, you would increase taxes, but you're

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cutting all kinds of costs as far
as the actual provision of healthcare. So

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it's sort of a reshifting of costs
towards the wealthiest one percent. And the

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problem is that, well, the
wealthiest one percent have agency, and maybe

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they will move if you do this
to them. So I think Newsom came

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to this conclusion, especially given that
the people he most needs to keep happy

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if he wants them to raise funds
for him to run for president, they

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didn't really want this. Okay,
the ultra super wealthy whose money he needs

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to run for president in twenty twenty
eight, they probably weren't crazy about this

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either. And the insurance companies.
Now, what do we mean by single

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payer universal healthcare. Well, in
healthcare ecosystem you have payers, providers,

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patients. The provider is the doc
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The patient is the patient, the
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is kind of the circle of life
for the practice of medicine. The patient

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has some form of insurance from either
an insurance plan he pays for himself or

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that his employer pays for as part
of his compensation. So the health insurance

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company gets those premiums, the provider
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the payer gives money to the provider. So that's the circle of life patient

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payer provider. In California, we
have multiple payers, all different kinds of

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private companies quasi private, public and
medical and medicare and other kinds of government

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health insurance, so we have multiple
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all the payers except for one,
and that one payer then controls everything with

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a provision of care, and there's
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It eliminates all the cost It eliminates
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also has problems that now the state
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But it does also accomplish universal coverage
in a way that's sustainable. It's taking

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all the tax revenue from the super
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to sustain this system that's caring for
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it has a kind of financial sustainability. The problem is it's at the expense

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of a massive increase in the taxes
on wealthy people, and Newsome just wasn't

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willing to go that far. So
instead, what has he done, He's

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just increased medical eligibility. We maintain
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Medical just becomes a bigger and bigger
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more and more and more beneficiaries that
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and more and more money pay The
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premiums into medical that are sustaining this
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pay payers has to come from tax
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with the additional number of people who
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added illegal aliens to that list.
So Newsome opted for, i think,

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the easier option so that he could
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done it. Everyone in California's covered. But he did so in a way

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that's just financially unsustainable. And that's
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hospitals going under, of maternity wards, closing of huge percentages of women not

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getting any prenatal care. It's because
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down on this fundamentally unsustainable system for
providing healthcare coverage for Californians. All Right,

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when we return, another hit piece
on Valley Children's Hospital, I dig

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into it. That is next on
the John Girardi Show. We've had this

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huge spate of hit pieces against Valley
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so. Basically, all these hit
pieces to say Valley Children's is giving way

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too much money to its CEO,
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that its executive compensation is too high
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et cetera. And this a lot
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coming from Gary Brettefeld and Miguel Arius, who particularly tried to call out Lisa

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smit Camp. Lisa Smithcamp sits on
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and Brettefeld and Arius took the time
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she should you know, she's on
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so inappropriate that they're spending so much
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hospital, a charitable hospital that relies
on philanthropic support and grant support like this

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seems inappropriate. They called for investigations
into whether Valley Children's was misusing medical money

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for all this executive compensation, and
I have pushed back on that, and

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I think all of these criticisms I
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thing, the attacks on Lisa Smitcamp, I think, in particular are misguided.

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The Valley Children's has more than one
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than one on departments or wings of
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Lisa Smithcamp is on, like I
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not a board that is concerned with
executive compensation. They don't review approve executive

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compensation. That's just not it's more
of a it just does not have anything

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to do with executive compensation decisions.
So Lisa Smithcamp has no oversight for that.

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That's not within her domain. Also, I think the allegation that there

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could be misuse of medical funding for
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that is just very very implausible.
What the medical funding the Value Children's receives

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is in exchange for services. Okay, you provide care for a patient who

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is a medical beneficiary, you get
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in the last segment, medical does
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you know, from a pure dollars
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patient walk through the door with private
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you see a patient walking through the
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purely from a dollars and cents perspective, you say, ah, darn it.

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Why because medical just it has a
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fund reimbursements for medical and the pool
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just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Funding for medical is not growing commensurate

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with that pool of people, so
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a nightmare to deal with, and
you're probably in many cases, Valley Children's

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is losing money on its medical patients, which, by the way, is

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about seventy percent of its patient pop. So to argue that medical funding might

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have somehow inappropriately funded executive compensation the
medical funding that Valued Children's get, they

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lose money on most of their medical
transactions. Okay, yes, in the

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aggregate over the course of a whole
year. The number that the total amount

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of money that Value Children's receives from
medical looks like a very big, impressive

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number, right, I don't know
what the number is, but let's let's

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don't I don't even know if this
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Value Children's gets one hundred million dollars
per year from medical Well, Value Children's

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probably spent one hundred and twenty million
dollars in costs to get that one hundred

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million dollars in reimbursement. Okay,
Now again I don't know if those numbers

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are even close to the right scale. But you see what I'm saying.

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Whatever they're getting from medical funding at
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breaking even or losing money. So
the idea that it's medical funding that's you

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know, allowing that that's goosing their
executive compensation to higher and higher levels,

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that allows Todd Suntrapak to make you
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and blah blah blah blah blah.
No, that's not what's happening.

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That's not how it works. That
that doesn't make sense. As far as

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the financial picture of Value Children's.
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be sustainable financially is not because they're
getting money hand over fists from medical.

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Nobody's getting money hand over fists from
medical. The reason they're financially sustainable is

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because they have a very successful portfolio
of investments and they have really strong palanthropic

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support. That's why they're still doing
well. And I guess the people who

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are complaining about Valued Children's having a
large portfolio of successful investments, I would

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ask them, well, what would
you rather have a hospital that's working,

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that's open, that's still taking care
of kids at a really high level,

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that has a big portfolio of successful
investments that help fund this operation, Or

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would you rather have Mederic Community Hospital, which is serving a similar as so

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far as socioeconomically, a similar patient
demographic. Okay, about seventy percent of

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Valued Children's patients are medical patients.
You're losing money on your medical patients.

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Maderic Community was probably a similar percentage. The only difference is Valley Children's is

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open and Mederic Community ain't, so
which is better? And also Valued Children

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Yes, they're paying their executives a
lot, but here they are in this

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very difficult market. It's a more
difficult market than San Diego. It's more

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difficult market to make things work.
There's a much poorer community doing as good

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a job as big time children's hospitals
in big time, much more higher socioeconomic

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parts of the state. Like,
yeah, there should be good executive compensation,

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and a lot of this is the
be looking, you know, not

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understanding how stuff was lined up,
as far as we had two years worth

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a bonus in one year or this
or that. Basically my assessment of it

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is, I just don't think that
the executive compensation that Value Children's is providing.

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I just don't think it's that excessive. I think a lot of especially

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when you're not just focusing on Centrapac, but other executives at the hospital.

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A lot of these people have been
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are really successful, and you don't
just reset their pay scial because just

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for some arbitrary reason, ah,
we're paying them. No, these are

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great people doing a great job.
They've been there for decades. Keep paying

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them well. So we now have
this story from the increasingly irrelevant Fresno Bee,

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and the Bee seems to have sort
of established itself as we are going

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to be the attack dogs against Valley
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the Bee is becoming less and less
significant on the local stage. It

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is. I think it's only being
printed like three days a week. Now

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are coming up soon it'll only be
printed like three days a week. So

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here's the story. As Valley Children's
give back enough, Valley Children's Hospital,

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the largest pediatric hospital in central California, reinvested the lowest amount of money into

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its region when compared to the nation's
other largest nonprofit children's hospitals that have the

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same tax exempts charitable status. A
Fresno b analysis found the be examined the

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amount of Valid Children's reported spending on
what the IRS considers community benefit, such

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as free medical care provided to certain
patients. Well, it says provided certain

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patients, but that's the TYPO.
Located in Madera County, maybe get an

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editor. Located in Madera County,
Valley Children's is the sixteenth largest children's hospital

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in the US, with three hundred
and fifty eight beds. When compared to

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the nation's fifteen larger such hospitals,
Valley Children's came in last in how much

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it gives back to the community as
a percentage of total expenses, And it

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wasn't close. Now it has to
do with a few things. One is

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the kind of giving that's in this
one bracket of spending as opposed to other

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kinds of charitableivings. There's also the
problem of every kid in California is medical

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eligible, and up to now that
has not been the case with A California

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adults and b non California kids at
non California hospitals. So basically what this

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category of quote community giving a lot
of what falls into that bucket is basically

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providing free health care for people who
don't have insurance. Valley Children's doesn't do

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that as much because every kid in
California's got medical eligibility, so the amount

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of money that they're going to put
into free healthcare is smaller than would be

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the case at I don't know a
children's hospital. The Scottish Right Hospital in

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Dallas, Texas, where my dad
did his fellowship. It's a children's hospital

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in Dallas, Well Scottish Right in
Texas. They don't have the same level

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of Medicaid coverage for kids in Texas. They probably do more free healthcare provision

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for kids than Valley Children's does,
not because they're taking more poor kids or

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because they're so much more generous.
Scottish right would take Medicaid coverage. You

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know, they would take Medicaid coverage
too if they could get it. So

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even this, it just seems like
it's kind of a phony, blooney story

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by the Bee where they have to
acknowledge later on that yeah, Children's has

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stuff in other categories of giving,
not just specifically there. You know,

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they're in a different situation from say, again a hospital in Texas or even

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hospitals in Fresno that take adult patients. They are more adult patients that don't

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have coverage, So you know,
Saint Agnes is able to put more into

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that bucket of giving because they have
more of these adult patients who don't have

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coverage that they're just providing care to
for free. So I guess it.

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I'm this whole story about the Fresno
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obsession with it on the part of
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people. I just think this is
like, unquestionably the one hospital that is

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operating at the absolute highest level,
and this is the one that we're targeting

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for this big campaign to discredit it. I just find it bizarre. When

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we return, I warn my listeners
about the biggest scam this upcoming election season

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and every upcoming election season, signing
petitions. Don't do it. Next on

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the John Girardi Show, this is
a public service announcement for all you folks

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out there, especially you see who
maybe sometimes don't catch on to these various

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scam attempts. So I was going
through some tweets from Rand Paul, and

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Rand Paul in the US Senate has
been the chief foe of Anthony Fauci and

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has been I think one of the
members of Congress most critical of him and

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most critical in examining his conduct over
the course of COVID in a way that

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I think was admirable. And I
think that's a good role for Rand Paul,

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given that he's a physician, and
you know, he had a particular

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interest in this, and he had
a series of tweets about stuff with Fauci,

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and this says, sign my petition
to hold Fauci accountable, which made

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me roll my eyes. Let me
explain this to all of you. Don't

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sign petitions. I'm not talking about
like a petition to get like a California

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ballot initiative qualified, which where it's
like an official state form for adding your

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signe. I'm not talking about that. Don't sign online petitions. All you

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seniors who get angry about spam phone
calls, spam political texts, spam mail,

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you're the ones who probably are signing
these petitions. Don't sign online petitions.

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The only point of a politician asking
you sign this petition to build the

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wall, sign this petition to take
down Crooked Joe, sign this petition to

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tell doctor Fauci he's a son of
a gun. The only point of those

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petitions is to get your email address
and your cell phone number so that politicians

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can send you campaign ads. That's
the only points. So don't sign online

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political petitions. That'll do it for
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