1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,839 Hello, Welcome to this Week in the Atlantic Coast Conference podcast for All Sportsdiscussion 2 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,519 dot Com. This is Jeff and you can follow me on Twitter at Talkin' 3 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:35,240 acc Sports. That's t A l k I n ACC Sports. Your podcast 4 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,240 moderator is Matthew and you can follow Matthew on Twitter at ASD Underscore, Hoky 5 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,880 Smash. I'm gonna turn it over to Matthew now as we get started in 6 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:55,840 a classic setup podcast, absolutely classic. For episode four hundred and seventy five, 7 00:00:56,079 --> 00:01:02,119 A major milestone, Jeff, A major milestone. And did you think 8 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:07,640 we'd be going this long? No, I can't say that I have. 9 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 But it's been a lot of fun all the way through, and I hope 10 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:14,640 we've got a bunch more to go. It's fun talking ACC sports with you, 11 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:19,079 Matthew. Five. We're gonna hit five hundred sometime later in twenty twenty 12 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,359 four, and that'll be the that'll be the big party zone. As Jeff 13 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,280 said, this is the podcast for Allsports Discussion dot Com. You can follow 14 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:30,480 our site twitter count at at all Sports d A c C. You can 15 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,879 follow Jeffrey Fan on Twitter at at talkin acc Sports. That's at t A 16 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:40,120 l k I n A C C S p O R T S. You 17 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:45,799 can follow me Matthew on Twitter at at at I'll start over here at as 18 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,680 T underscore Hoky Smash. Jeff said that already already, but we figured you 19 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,359 can repeat it and you can always go to it. I spent a little 20 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,560 more time at the at the site Twitter account. Excuse me, just get 21 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:05,799 our presence up a little bit more there. So, Jeff, this is 22 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,240 a classic version of the ACC podcast. So we're gonna go back to our 23 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:12,680 roots here. I'm gonna get some water in a moment because I'm kind of 24 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,159 coughing. Uh, tell us about yourself. Yeah, yeah, my name 25 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:24,240 is Jeff Finn. I'm a engineer by by day. I graduated from from 26 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,759 Georgia Tech, went to grad school at Clemson. So a lot of ACC 27 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:37,039 ties here started this, this, this blog and then the podcast with with 28 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:43,520 Matthew because I didn't think that the ACC had a lot of voices out there 29 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:50,080 that just covered the con the conference exclusively. I thought what was covered about 30 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,319 the conference was overly negative, and so you know, we wanted to bring 31 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,879 some some balance to that and and bring you know, some of the good 32 00:02:57,879 --> 00:03:00,759 things about what's going on in the a C see and you know, cover 33 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,800 cover to schools that that we follow closely, uh in the conference. So 34 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,680 that's kind of how the blogs started up. It's been it's been a lot 35 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:15,400 of fun and always have opinions out there on Twitter and putting out articles at 36 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,680 all Sportsdiscussion dot com and podcast and every week. Definitely, definitely, and 37 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,400 I think that we we give a different take than others because there's a lot 38 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:29,520 of team oriented blogs that are just one team only and this is one that 39 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,199 kind of covers every team of the conference. And we're all so we also, 40 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:38,439 as Jeff said, have our own our own teams. I'm an alumnus 41 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,400 of Virginia Tech, and you know, I'm you know, we are not 42 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,199 homers for our own schools. We can be very critical of our own schools. 43 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,240 We both have been very critical on this podcast and on the blog of 44 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,400 our schools, and anybody who follows us on Twitter or who reads our blogs 45 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:01,639 can can certainly confirm that we're not or not homers in any respect. We 46 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:05,479 certainly tell the truth about We certainly tell the truth about that. So Jeff, 47 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,800 let's get right into it, man, Let's get right into it. 48 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:17,519 Which acc football team was the most disappointing team in Week nine, And we're 49 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,360 going to liner on in the moment. I want to get your take, 50 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,720 your first take on this on the first first half of this question, and 51 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,000 we'll go to the second question. Yeah, I think if you're looking for 52 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,720 a disappointing team, I'm gonna I'm gonna start with with Clemson. You know, 53 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,199 on the road at at NC State, you know, tough, tough 54 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:43,920 environment to play in, no question, but that was an NC State team 55 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,240 that that's got a lot of issues offensively, and you know, it was 56 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:51,199 just more of the same from what we've seen from Clemson most of this year. 57 00:04:53,519 --> 00:05:00,839 You know, decent defensive effort, but so mistake prone on off and 58 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,480 it's just a multitude of issues with the Clemson offense. It's it runs way 59 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:10,839 deeper than some of the inexperience from from CADE club. Nick at quarterback, 60 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,600 who doesn't seem to be progressing, but the issues run much deeper than him. 61 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:20,120 There there are no playmakers on the offense, no receivers step up. 62 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,959 They can't stretch the field. And when you're playing a quality defense like NC 63 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:30,120 State and you can't stretch the field, and you can't put any pressure on 64 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,839 that defense, you're you're in big trouble. And you know in this game 65 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:41,120 they got down twenty four to seven. Offense looked looked completely inept, a 66 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,240 little late rally to make the court score a little bit closer than what it 67 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,639 was. But for Clemson team that's just trying to turn the season around, 68 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:54,759 it was a pretty listless performance in my opinion at NC State, and and 69 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:58,279 you know that's who they are. They're four and four, two and four 70 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,199 team right now, and they're simply just not very good. I'm very disappointed 71 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:08,480 by the effort out of Clemson this week. Can we I'm going to add 72 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:13,399 on a I guess they would say a runner up now, not to say 73 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:15,480 that I'm not. I'm happy for the happy as hell for you, Jeff, 74 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:19,560 that that Georgia Tech beat North Carolina. You know I was rooting for 75 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,480 you every step of the way there. I wanted that to happen for Georgia 76 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Tech. But North Carolina is at the point where they're in what is it? 77 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Is it? Jeff? Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this the 78 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,240 sixth season for Mac Brown? Is that right? I think this is season 79 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,199 number six, and I'm glad you pointed them out, Matthew, I know 80 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:44,839 you're going to get into it, but oh, did North Carolina's defense did 81 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:47,160 they lay down? Oh? It was bad. I was ready to rip 82 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:55,319 them. Go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead. I mean I was 83 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:58,439 going to get into tomorrow when I you know, with North Carolina, when 84 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,720 we get into the surprising teams of the weekend. But I mean that was 85 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:12,360 I almost watched that game in disbelief that. I mean, they absolutely got 86 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:17,000 trucked in the fourth quarter of the game. Georgia Tech ran for two hundred 87 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:24,720 and forty five, two hundred and forty six yards in the fourth quarter. 88 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,759 I mean, on a night that Georgia Tech honored Paul Johnson, he must 89 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,480 have been you know, I think there were a couple of throwback performances this 90 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:35,319 weekend in the ACC and I know one of them was from Virginia Tech. 91 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:41,519 But that was a throwback fourth quarter for Georgia Tech. I mean, they 92 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,040 just took North Carolina soul in that fourth quarter and ran them over. And 93 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,879 man, if you're North Carolina, if you're a fan, you gotta be 94 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:56,759 wondering what happened to your defense, because they just they looked exhausted confused, 95 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,800 and I'm not sure a T has played a worst quarter of defense this entire 96 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,639 season in the ACC than, you know, than what North Carolina did in 97 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,399 the fourth quarter. That was atrocious. I have nothing more to add there. 98 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,720 I'm going to answer our next question first, and I'll just be real 99 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,800 quick with quick with it, and you can take the ladder, because here's 100 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,759 the thing. I know, Virginia Tech played well. I missed the entire 101 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:30,879 first half of that game. I was really impressed with Louisville's performance versus Duke 102 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,159 this week, Jeff. I mean, they were ball hoking on defense. 103 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,759 They did not force things on offense. They showed that they could play a 104 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,799 I guess you could say, I want to say, a ball control sort 105 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,600 of offense. They showed that they could run the ball if they had to. 106 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:54,919 They gave they weren't over aggressive, they didn't do dumb things on fourth 107 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,799 down and try to be over aggressive. They just took what the Duke defense 108 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,360 gave them, and they grinded out a win against the very well coached Duke 109 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,720 team. And I believe this is the first ever ranked opponent that Louisville has 110 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:15,080 shut out at home. And that's I think I read something about that the 111 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,919 first top top twenty five team, and it was a very impressive performance from 112 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,200 Louisville, and they've got to be sitting. They got to be sitting in 113 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,879 a spot where they're probably if I'm betting on my on teams to get to 114 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:33,919 the ACC championship game against Florida State, Louisville is probably my top choice right 115 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,240 now because they're playing some some really good there's some really good football. But 116 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,840 I know you've got another team that you want to talk about. Yeah, 117 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,559 I mean Louisville at home is I mean, they're they're good anywhere, but 118 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:54,320 at home they're just a different team. And you know, we know what 119 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:58,639 they did against Notre Dame, breaking breaking that ACC thirty game regular season losing 120 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:03,399 streak to the Irish and Irish they have a really good football team. We 121 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:09,399 know what Louisville did there, and another impressive performance against a quality duke team, 122 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,639 and like you said, Matthew just went in different ways. I don't 123 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:20,720 think anyone in the ACC outside of Florida States has consistently played at a high 124 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:28,159 level like like Louisville has. And and you know that there you have to 125 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:35,600 admit that's that's a good, good football team, especially in Cardinals Stadium. 126 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,080 You know, they had the kind of fluky loss to to Pittsburgh where I 127 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,080 think Louisville kind of went into that game spent from the emotion of the Notre 128 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Dame game, you know, and and there's still a growing football team, 129 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:56,200 but really impressive game against against Duke. And and you know that doesn't happen 130 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,919 often to the Duke Blue Devils under under Mike Elko, to where you never 131 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,759 even felt like Duke had a chance in that game. That's how well Louisville 132 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:11,960 played, you know, another team, two other teams, and that I'll 133 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:15,519 let you you know, take over for Virginia Tech. But I'll just say 134 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:18,960 a brief sentence about that. I mean Friday night that that was a vintage 135 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:26,279 or Thursday Night that was a vintage Virginia Tech Thursday night, mid two thousand 136 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:33,120 performance. I mean their defense, aggressive, explosive plays on offense, and 137 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:37,240 uh, I mean just a great performance in Brenton, Prbably has has Virginia 138 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:41,600 Tech really playing some good football. I know you'll get into that one, 139 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:46,759 you know, and then the last impressive team from the weekend, you know, 140 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,720 got to give it up. For for you know, my guys there 141 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:54,679 at Georgia Tech. You know, who can figure figure them out at this 142 00:11:54,879 --> 00:12:00,559 point? You know, twenty point underdog Miami, they found a to win 143 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,120 twenty point favorite against Bowling Green. They lose, They lose at home, 144 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,679 you know, in ugly fashion to Boston College, and then come back, 145 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:13,720 you know with their best performance of the season, you know, knocking off 146 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,759 North Carolina. I mean, who had tons to play for. They were 147 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,600 coming off a loss against Virginia and you know, right out of the gate, 148 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,360 they're up fourteen to zero in four different times during the game. North 149 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,879 Carolina had a double digit lead in that game, and they just couldn't put 150 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:35,120 Georgia Tech away. A great performance from Georgia Tech running back Dante Smith Haines 151 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:41,799 King, who's had a really fine season at quarterback for Georgia Tech defense that 152 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 you know, it's been pretty maligned. It's not a great defense. No 153 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:52,919 one's going to confuse that still managed to hold North Carolina to fourteen points in 154 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,039 the second half, you know, and made a couple of opportunistic plays against 155 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,080 that great North Carolina offense. And you know, Georgia Tech now is four 156 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:09,919 to oho under Brent key against ranked teams in the ACC, which is pretty 157 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,039 astonishing, you know, given what he took over by no means are they 158 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:18,240 a finished product. I mean, they've got to find a way to be 159 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,200 a more consistent team and to you know, play up that level more often. 160 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,600 And you know, when we get into the ACC schedule for next week, 161 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:28,000 we're going to see what they can do against Virginia on the road. 162 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:35,000 But I mean, really impressive performance. Their offensive line probably played their best 163 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:41,879 game since Paul Johnson was there. Just ran over North Carolina's defense. Jeff, 164 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,320 I'll let you get into Virginia Tech because that was impressive. Thursday. 165 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,919 I have a couple questions for you, Jeff. How many yards rushing do 166 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:56,960 you think Syracuse had against Virginia Tech. It was two hundred and forty six 167 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:03,200 yards fewer than Georgia Tech had in the fourth quarter against North Carolina, which 168 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:09,840 would be zero. How many sacks did Virginia Tech had against Syracuse? Jeff, 169 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,279 trying to remember it was either seven or nine. They had eight sacks 170 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,000 eight, okay, at seven the game before. They've had fifteen sacks in 171 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,600 two games in Virginia Tech is probably in the top five in the country. 172 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:39,720 In quarterback sacks. I haven't seen that in several years as an aggressive ball 173 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,799 hockeying defense, and they seem to be. They seem to be turning it 174 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:46,559 on at the right time. I mean, they're just there. They've been. 175 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:52,240 Here's another question I have for you, Jeff, what do you think 176 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:58,120 Virginia Tech would have one or two more wins if Kyron Drones was starting the 177 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,039 very first game aim of this season. Jeff, I'm actually dead serious about 178 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:09,159 that. Yeah. I mean, he gives them an element that that Wells 179 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,120 just couldn't give them with his feet. I mean, he can make he 180 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:20,480 can make plays that you know that Virginia Tech just couldn't get those kind of 181 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:24,320 plays earlier in the season. And you can see the team feeds off of 182 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,600 his ability to make plays. And he's a great he you know, he's 183 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:35,600 kind of reminds you a little bit of of Tyrod Taylor. You know, 184 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:37,759 they're Virginia Tech. I mean, he's got a lot to get up to 185 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,320 that level, but I mean he kind of reminds you, he reminds me 186 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:48,240 anyways of Taylor. And you know that you got Virginia Tech. It's just 187 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,279 they're playing with a lot of confidence, Like you said, the defense, 188 00:15:52,600 --> 00:16:00,440 you know, with a real throwback performance against against Syracuse and uh, you 189 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:07,399 know, unbelievably, Virginia Tech hold holds the the holds their deathity in their 190 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,360 own hands to get to the ACC title game. It's kind of crazy. 191 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:15,879 But so I have muted expectations on that part, and Jeff only because Virginia 192 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:21,039 Tech's pretty much done all that at home. They got to go on the 193 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,720 road to Louisville next week. I know we're going to talk about that, 194 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:30,000 but that's you know, I you know, it's interesting. I didn't think 195 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:34,759 we'd be in a spot where, you know, Virginia Tech could potentially be 196 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:40,279 favored in three of its four final games. But I think that that's where 197 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,039 Virginia Tech is at because Virginia Tech is probably going to be favored at home 198 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:49,480 against NC State, who has the and this time I think, you know, 199 00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:55,360 Virginia Tech actually almost beat NC State last year and had no playmakers on 200 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:03,000 offense, not and they actually they should be favored in three of its four 201 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:07,119 final games. I would think that Virginia Tech will be favored against BC. 202 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,400 I think Virginia Tech will be favored against u v A. I think Virginia 203 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Tech will be favored against INCA NC State. The only game that Virginia Tech 204 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,200 won't be favored at is is that Louisville. Would you agree with that? 205 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Yeah, I mean, I think the only one that that Virginia Tech will 206 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:30,119 go into as probably being a prohibitive underdog is against is against Louisville. And 207 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,599 we talked about how good Louisville is has been at home, and that's going 208 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,000 to be a real tall task for Virginia Tech to go in there and come 209 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:41,519 out with a win. But I mean, all three of the other games 210 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:48,559 are definitely winnable, and is the Boston the Boston the other all three of 211 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,200 the other ones are in Lane Stadium. No, they've got to go to 212 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,640 Boston College. But I still think that I still think that Virginia Tech will 213 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:02,640 actually be favored going up there because and so here's why I say that Boston 214 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:15,640 College gives up about as many sacks as as Wake Forest or as Syracuse and 215 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:18,440 Virginia you know, they they're they're gonna be they're gonna be going after that 216 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:22,720 quarterback. They're gonna be going after that quarterback, you know. And so 217 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,599 I I feel I would feel that Virginia Tech probably will be favored going up 218 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,640 there because they just have a they have a better I think they have a 219 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,759 better I think I have a better defense. I think they certainly they have 220 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:38,799 a better defense than Boston College. You know, So it'll be an interesting 221 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,279 it'll be interesting, but I think they'll be fair. I think that they'll 222 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:44,960 be favored in three of the four and if they were to come you know, 223 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 if they were to come out and finish seven and five, they might 224 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,799 be considered one of your ACC teams in the second half of the season that 225 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:56,319 you know performed Well, yeah, yeah, that's that's true. And I 226 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:02,240 mean who at this point in the season would have had your ACC standings with 227 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:06,279 With Virginia Tech in third place, in Georgia Tech in fourth place at the 228 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,799 moment, it's pretty crazy at and it is pretty crazy. So Jeff, 229 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:14,480 let's get to week ten, man a week ten ACC football, Which which 230 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:17,279 game you're looking forward to? Which game Gamber games are you looking forward? 231 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Well, I'm pulling up this the schedule here that there are a couple of 232 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,480 it. There's there's a number of intriguing games here. I mean, you've 233 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,680 got you got games that I think are just going to be absolute blowouts with 234 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:41,079 North Carolina playing Campbell, Florida State going to to Pittsburgh. Uh. But 235 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,240 you look at you know, what should have been one of the tops games 236 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:51,519 of the entire season. You're just wondering if Clemson has anything they can do 237 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,759 to stay in it with with Notre Dame. I think this is a really 238 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:00,519 bad matchup of a game for for Clemson. You know, they're going up 239 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:04,599 against a Notre Dame defense that that shut down Ohio State and and their roster 240 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:11,559 of all American UH wide receivers. But still the games in Death Valley, 241 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,359 and you're wondering if if Clemson, you know, for the first time the 242 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:21,200 season, can can knock off Equality, uh, you know, knock off 243 00:20:21,319 --> 00:20:26,880 a quality opponent. A couple of other games, I think Georgia Tech Virginia 244 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,839 is a down the under the radar game. You know, both of those 245 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:37,079 teams you know have been you know, have pulled off upsets of North Carolina 246 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,200 in recent weeks. Virginia came within an eyelash of going down to Miami and 247 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,640 winning. They've been kind of a hard luck team, but I think they're 248 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,160 improved. Georgia Tech, you know, absolute roller coaster. You know, 249 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:53,759 let's see if they can follow up their North Carolina win and go on the 250 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:59,319 road. They they've got to find a way to to to win two more 251 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,799 games for them to get Bowl eligible. I think Miami and NC State is 252 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:11,680 a really intriguing game. I think Miami has put the Georgia Tech kind of 253 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:15,920 debacle loss behind them, you know, and then you know, they also 254 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,799 lost to North Carolina the week after. But now they've they've won a couple 255 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,119 of games in a row, going to overtime late in games, and and 256 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,279 I still think they've they've got a ceiling that they haven't returned to since that 257 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,799 they played it early in the season. And you know, with the issues 258 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:36,640 North Carolina has offensively, you don't know if Peyton Wilson, they're they're all 259 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,160 American linebackers, is going to be available. But you know, going to 260 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,799 Carter Finley is a difficult place to play. It's gonna be at night. 261 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:51,480 Uh. That's that's an intriguing game for for some of the for Bowl positioning 262 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:52,720 there and to see, you know, which one of those two, you 263 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:57,039 know, does Zenz State find an offense to go along with their defense? 264 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:00,599 Can can Miami put their third win in a row together. I think that's 265 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:07,359 a really intriguing, uh, Saturday night game. I will be interested to 266 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,880 see if Syracuse keeps dropping off the map. Jeff, Jeff, that's what 267 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,680 I want to see. Because Boston College is coming to the j m A 268 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:22,640 wireless doing and wireless wireless doing and Dolman. I think that it'll be interesting 269 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:26,279 to see whether whether whether you know, because if they lose that game, 270 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:30,839 you're gonna see a lot in the Syracuse fan gate based starting getting getting getting 271 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,359 pretty restless. And they used to be those guys need those two teams used 272 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000 to be really big rivals in the Big East, And if they lose to 273 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:41,839 Boston College, you're gonna see you're gonna see some people who get really really 274 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:52,119 restless. Yeah, and Syracuse, you know, they they're really struggling right 275 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,400 now. They've been blown out now four straight games. They're the only winless 276 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,839 team in the a c C. They're they're struggling moving the ball, they're 277 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:07,359 struggling on defensively. I think they're gonna have They're gonna have to beat Boston 278 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,400 College if they want to save Beno Baber's job. Uh. You know, 279 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,960 this is a team that started started the year four and oh and and now 280 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:21,400 it's four and four and they're they're they're looking at another second half collapse similar 281 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,200 to the last season. I know, North Carolina gets the most publicity, 282 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,640 you know, for collapsing in the second half of the season because they get 283 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,839 they they've gotten so high up in the rankings last year nine and one lose 284 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,680 their final four games this year, six and oh, losing two in a 285 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,599 row. But you know, Syracuse is definitely on that same you know, 286 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,079 same things kind of happen into them too, with the fast starts and then 287 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:49,799 just just struggle, you know, getting to the finish line. And yeah, 288 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:59,359 that's a huge game for Syracuse. Jeff. Next week man Week ten 289 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,079 National college football. I mean, we've got so many good games on this 290 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,079 schedule, which is what are some of the games you're looking forward to next 291 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,559 week? Next week in week ten, because there are a lot of real 292 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:17,960 this is a stellar week next weekend, Jeff for college football. What are 293 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,559 you looking forward to? Yeah, I think I think two of the games 294 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:30,160 that that are really going to be interesting with national playoff implications is Washington going 295 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,559 to USC. I know, you love love the Huskies, but they have 296 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:41,839 gotten by on They have not played well since beating Oregon. They they they 297 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:49,680 were on the ropes this this past weekend. It just escaped me just for 298 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,160 a second. Who they were playing. Oh yeah again, I knew it 299 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,720 was like Stanford. Yeah, and then also against Arizona State and and in 300 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:02,119 both of those games, I mean, it went deep into the fourth quarter 301 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:06,279 with the game still in doubt. And I think you talked about it on 302 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,880 Twitter. You know, with their inability to run the football, it's putting 303 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,119 a lot of pressure on Pennis to quarterback too, you know, to keep 304 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:22,039 Washington above water. USC oh, oh my goodness, one of the worst 305 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,480 defenses in college football. This this could be. I mean, this could 306 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:32,680 be an absolute shootout. That's what USC is hoping for because they're not going 307 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:36,720 to stop They're not going to slow down Pennis at all in this game. 308 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,640 And the scorge of boards is just going to be, you know, lit 309 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:45,240 up in this game left and right. But USC came within a two point 310 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,160 conversion of losing to Cal this weekend. That that's that's that's a team with 311 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,799 absolutely no defense. But you know, they got Caleb Williams at quarterback. 312 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,359 Great quarterback matchup. There, and uh, I think Washington is going to 313 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,039 have to run the table, you know, to get into the the playoff. 314 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,799 I don't think they can afford to lose a game, so that that's 315 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,720 that's a big game on Saturday night. And then you got l s U 316 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:15,799 and Alabama. You know, talk about you know, Alabama slipping back a 317 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,000 bit. They beat they beat LSU, They're gonna end up in the SEC 318 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:26,240 title game most likely. And you know that puts them within one game of 319 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680 making it back to the playoff, even though it seemed like they had slipped 320 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,160 over overall savings got them kind of squared away. And and LSU is another 321 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:41,480 team you know with their quarterback Jayden uh Daniels that you know tends to struggle 322 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,559 on defense as well, but you know with a guy like him at quarterback, 323 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,759 that that should be a great matchup Saturday night as well. I'll give 324 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,160 you one. I'll give you too, Jeff. How about I give you 325 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:59,759 two. Kansas State is gonna I think they have a good chance to beat 326 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,920 I'd like it better if the game was at Kansas State. I think I 327 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,799 think if you're playing ball control sorts of stuff like they'd like to play. 328 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,440 I think they have a good chance to go in there and win. I'm 329 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,759 not calling it yet, but I think that I would not surprise me to 330 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:23,319 see them win next week. The other one is under the radar, and 331 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:30,400 I think you may enjoy this. You're in state rival South Carolina. Yeah, 332 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,960 they're losing to Jacksonville State this week, Jeff, I hope. I'm 333 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,240 picking Jacksonville State to beat South Carolina this week and for the game Cocks to 334 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,119 go to and seven. They're not going to a ball this year. There 335 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,920 you go, Jeff, that would be a stunner and that would put Shane 336 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,880 Biemer on the mega hot seat if he lost to Jacksonville State. Well, 337 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,279 you know what, Rich Rodriguez is a better coach Thance Bieber. He is, 338 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,640 and he's going to win this week. They are a better team. 339 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:18,240 They got South Carolina. It's a fourteen point yep, because I'm fourteen point 340 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,839 favorite and picking I'm picking Jacksonville State the way. Hey, we remember when 341 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:29,319 Jacksonville State went down into Dope Campbell and knocked off the Seminoles. So they're 342 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,240 not afraid of big, big game environments. You know, they've bade it 343 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,359 to the FCS playoffs. Several times. They've They've lost at Indyshus several times, 344 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,559 of course. But you know, I'm not sure that I don't I 345 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,079 see, I'm not I think, I think, I think uh. I 346 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,160 don't think Shane Bieber is going to be in South Carolina Carolina very long, 347 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,559 Jeff. I don't think you have to worry about losing the South Carolina this 348 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,480 year, Jeff. As bad as as bad as things are going for Clemson, 349 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:03,480 it's going much worse in South Carolina. Yeah. I don't know if 350 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,880 if clemes into any position to any overlook anyone on their schedule the rest of 351 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,960 the way. I'm with you, I'm with you. But you know, 352 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,160 after they lose to jack State this week, the bottom is going to be 353 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,039 dropping out there. Yeah, that that would that would drop the bottom out. 354 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,200 There's no question about that. If that happened, we'll see if I'm 355 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,960 right, We'll see if I eat my words. But I I will take 356 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:36,559 I will take a Rich Rodriguez coaching matchup against South Carolina any day of the 357 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,000 week. Again, especially against Shane Bieber. I think I think that they're 358 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,160 I think there, I think that's gonna be I think that's going to be 359 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720 an intrigue. That's gonna be an intriguing game. So let's me let me 360 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:49,880 see. I want to I want to see if there's one other one, 361 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,000 one other one that I that cut my eye would potentially be Missouri against Georgia. 362 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,319 I mean, I know Georgia is a heavy favorite there. I'm wondering 363 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,720 how long Missouri can hang in there. What do you think about that, 364 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:10,559 Jeff, Yeah, I mean it kind of looks like, you know, 365 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Georgia is starting to hit on all cylinders again. This seems to be about 366 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:18,119 the time of the season where they start gearing up for their playoff run. 367 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,359 And and and I mean, I think Missouri can go in there knowing that, 368 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,559 you know, they competed really well with Georgia last year and had an 369 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:33,480 even chance to knock them off. But even without brought Bowers available for Georgia, 370 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,680 I think he's he's still going to be out. Uh. This just 371 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:44,480 feels like Georgie is just two loaded for Missouri and Georgia's you know, they're 372 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,799 they're they're getting that point in the season where they're i mean, their schedule 373 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:52,720 has been you know, uh, pretty pretty below average. We'll say, 374 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,759 you know, to be honest, it's it's been it's been a totally dreadful 375 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:03,640 schedule. They but you know, and Missouri is probably one of the better 376 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,359 teams that they're going to face on their schedule, and they are a good 377 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,440 team. They might be the second best team in the SEC SEC East. 378 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,960 But I just don't think they're I don't think they're equipped to go into Athens 379 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200 and not them off. That would, I would add, be a stunner. 380 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,759 Fair enough, fair enough, So I actually think Washington will beat you 381 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,599 as siege, Jeff. But I think Washington is either going to lose to 382 00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:33,400 Utah at home or they're going to lose it to Oregon State on the road. 383 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:37,640 And your your buddy, DJ, he's playing pretty well for the most 384 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,240 part in Oregon State. He's playing pretty well. He looks like a different 385 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:48,119 quarterback. Yeah, it definitely helps to have, like some some receivers that 386 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:55,599 can get open Oregon Oregon State, did you know they take it on the 387 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,079 chin this this weekend against Arizona. But you're you're right. I think that's 388 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:06,960 gonna be a really tricky game, uh, for Washington to go into the 389 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:12,759 Corballas and and win that game. And Kyle, you know, Kyler Willingham's 390 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:17,279 a pretty good coach at Utah and he's a good he's a good game preparer, 391 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,279 you know, so him, you know, he'll he'll be ready when 392 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,279 he takes his guys to Seattle too. So both of those are going to 393 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:30,359 be tough matchups. If they could make it through USC Utah and Oregon State, 394 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,400 and I don't think they will. Uh, they'll win the Apple Cup. 395 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,839 They'll they'll destroy Washington State because you always get up for your rival and 396 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,680 that's at home. But I don't know about the I don't I don't know 397 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,519 if they can make it through. I don't know if they could make it 398 00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:51,880 through. I had concerns about them about being so one dimensional on offense, 399 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000 and I was telling Matt Zemick, I was like, man, at least 400 00:32:54,119 --> 00:33:00,200 do the justin flinty JETSUITEP. You know what I mean? I mean, 401 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:06,000 because if that simulates at least simulates the running some sort of a short pass 402 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,599 running game and gets your athletes in space. And they weren't even doing that, 403 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,759 you know, And I was like, oh god, you know, 404 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,680 so you know, we'll see how long they can last. But that you 405 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,359 know, the coaches that you know the coach certainly has people excited there in 406 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,599 Seattle again, and it's been a long time since they've, you know, 407 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,680 since they've been really excited about a football team and had a football team to 408 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,039 root for this late in November, so it's you know, football is fun 409 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,680 when what when Georgia went Virginia Tech and Washington and these teams are good, 410 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,359 you know, are good that have been traditionally been traditionally been pretty good. 411 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:45,799 So, Jeff, if I had to give you your answer, ask you 412 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920 this question today, give me your answer, Jeff, who plays in the 413 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:57,759 ACC Championship football game? To day, Well, it seems almost impossible not 414 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,920 to think that Florida State's going to be in that game. Jordan Travis, 415 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,719 I just don't see him. You know, if you're gonna knock off Jordan 416 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Travis Benson and that group of wide receivers, you're gonna just have to have 417 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,639 a spectacular performance. I mean, they have a few issues defensively, but 418 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,159 even their defense is starting to come around. And you know, I think 419 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:28,239 we go through a whole ACC podcast, you wouldn't even barely talk about Florida 420 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,599 State because they're just they're kind of on cruise control now. And Jordan Travis 421 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,159 is getting healthy, you know, from the shoulder injury he suffered against Boston 422 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,079 College. He's starting to look like the guy that was in the fourth quarter 423 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,559 of the LSU game. And so it it seems almost impossible that they won't 424 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:52,079 be there. So you're really looking at who's their opponent gonna be. And 425 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,400 it looked to be, you know, probably realistically a two team race between 426 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,400 North Carolina and Louisville. But you know, North Carolina taking that that really 427 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:08,760 stunning loss to Georgia Tech has has put has put Louisville in a great position 428 00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,000 now to get to that game. I think Louisville, we look at the 429 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,519 end of their schedule. I know, they played Virginia Tech. Uh, 430 00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:22,400 they got to go to Miami. Uh, and it got Kentucky at home. 431 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:27,719 And I'm trying to remember their fourth game on their schedule. Uh it, 432 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:35,519 I'm gonna have to pull that up real quick to see who's the fourth 433 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:40,239 game left on their schedule. And we've already talked about how how dynamite they've 434 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:53,239 been at home. Uh, gret this appeer of course right when you want 435 00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:00,920 to pull it up, you know, have it in front of it. 436 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,039 They played Virginia, Jeff in Virginia, okay, you know, and you 437 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:14,000 gotta like Louisville at home against against Virginia. And even if they lose down 438 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:19,320 at Miami, Miami already has two acc losses, probably will lose in Tallahassee 439 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:29,719 to Florida State. So I mean Louisville's Louisville isn't really is in really good 440 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,239 shape. They knocked off Duke, who was another one of their close competitors. 441 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840 I do wonder what if they do end up tied since they don't play 442 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,320 North Carolina, if they both end up with two losses, I'm gonna have 443 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,320 to look up what the tiebreaker is. So you know, North Carolina is 444 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,400 not completely eliminated, but it sure do us feel like Louisville is going to 445 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,000 be Florida State's opponent in the a SEC Championship game. I agree with you. 446 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:58,039 I agree with you. I will be interested to see how they handle 447 00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:04,960 Prosperity Jeff by Prosperity, you know, I'll be You know, I'm wondering 448 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,719 what Brom's cooking at Brom's cooking up for the aggressive defense that Virginia Tech's gonna 449 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,039 bring in there, you know, what I mean, because it's gonna be 450 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,360 I mean, they're gonna be you know, they're gonna be right. They're 451 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,920 gonna be really aggressive when they come into when they come into Louisville, when 452 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,320 they come into Louisville next week. There's a guy, particularly Jeff that I 453 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:34,719 want to mention on Virginia Tech's team from these on the defensive line this year 454 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:42,480 because he's just he's just been terrific. Antoine Powell Ryland, the transfer from 455 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:46,199 Clemson, the kid from the kid from Portsmouth, Virginia. He's just been 456 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,159 amazing. And he's gonna be on the All a C C team at least 457 00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,719 one of the All ACC teams. Do you agree? Yeah, I think 458 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,559 he has a has a great chance to be on one of the All ACC 459 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,280 teams. He's gonna give them a hard time. I think in Louisville he's 460 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,840 gonna give somebody a hard time there. Now, Rom has turned out pretty 461 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,559 good, Jeff, because he had a good offensive line when he walked in 462 00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:16,199 the door. You know he's got you know, he turned out pretty good 463 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,719 there and he and then he brought a couple of good players in the portal. 464 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,280 But he his offensive line was not there when he came in there, 465 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,119 you know, and so that was a good thing for him. And that's 466 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,960 certainly part of their success this year is having an offensive line that that you 467 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,400 know, where they can win in the trenches and stuff like that. But 468 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,920 what the you know, I'm I'm still shocked, and I'm sure you are 469 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,760 too a little bit. I'm still shocked at what they did the Notre Dame, 470 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,800 you know, I mean, yeah, you have to you have to 471 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:55,320 be I mean, Notre Dame is a is a couple of drop interceptions from 472 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,840 you know, knocking off Ohio State. We saw what they did to USC 473 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,320 and and and Louisville just dominated them in the and from the third late and 474 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,119 the third quarter into the fourth quarter. I mean, they got on a 475 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,280 roll. And like we said earlier, you know, outside of Florida State, 476 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:19,679 no one has played at the ceiling that Louisville has played, uh this 477 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,320 year, and when they get rolling, they're really good. And they've they've 478 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,159 kind of touched that ceiling a couple of times this season against Notre Dame. 479 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960 They played very well against Duke, you know, shutting them out. And 480 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:37,280 like you said earlier, you know, you looked at Louisville earlier in the 481 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,840 year. It's just kind of an explosive team, you know, with with 482 00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:45,760 thrash and plumber and and big plays and fast and I mean they just they 483 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:53,639 just grounded out against a good Duke defense with with you know, with that 484 00:39:53,840 --> 00:40:00,760 running game and and that was you know, an element with your our Jordan, 485 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,440 you didn't really think that they had. And so you know, Louisville 486 00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:10,360 is fighting in different ways to win. Different speeds on offense, very aggressive 487 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,519 on defense. I mean, Jeff Brom's right up there with with Norville. 488 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:20,280 It's probably your ACC Coach of the Year candidates right now. I'm with you, 489 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,159 Jeff, I'm with you, Jeff, open mic. What do you 490 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:29,800 got, Jeff, Well, it's definitely been a fun football season. It's 491 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,840 going to be a great November. You know, the playoff chases, playoff 492 00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,440 rankings coming out this month, but this time tomorrow. And we mentioned it 493 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,199 on last year's podcast, our last week's podcast where we were two weeks away. 494 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:53,760 We're now a week away from basketball season starting, and November December is 495 00:40:53,840 --> 00:41:00,280 my favorite sports time of the year when there's college football and college basketball ball 496 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:07,159 going. You know, can't wait to see you know how the ACC looks. 497 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,159 Duke should be should be dynamite. A lot of people are expecting North 498 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:20,400 Carolina to have a rebound. Clemson could could surprise some people in the ACC. 499 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:27,559 They got to transfer from Syracuse coming down. PJ Hall on that team. 500 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,239 Virginia looks looks a little bit underrated, but you know, you can't 501 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:37,079 count out Tony Bennett and that team. You know, Virginia Tech's been been 502 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,440 you know strong the last few years. So in Miami, of course, 503 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,760 we can't forget about what they've done. They've been the best March team in 504 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,440 the a c C over the last two years with an Elite eight and a 505 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:54,760 Final four under Jim layer Inega. So I mean, they're definitely going to 506 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,679 be in the mix again. So I'm expecting the ACC to be better in 507 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,960 the regular season that they have than they have been in recent years. They've 508 00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:10,440 been the best March team with the mar you know, best March record over 509 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:16,239 the last couple of years. You know, the only major Power five conference 510 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,480 to have a Final four team in the last two years, having three teams. 511 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,920 I mean, I guess you would call Yukon, you know, from 512 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:30,960 Power five in basketball to Power six coming from where they're at of but you 513 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:34,199 know, the ACC needs to be better in the regular season and kind of 514 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,119 you know, get back to where we're used to seeing eight or nine bids 515 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,480 in March instead of the you know, scratching to get five. But I 516 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:46,679 do think the conference will be better this year. It will be interesting for 517 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,760 me to see Matthew Cleveland in a Miami roster, Jeff, because I know 518 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,519 we talked about this over the summer, but I saw it in passing as 519 00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,159 I got I didn't see any It's this news that he went in the portal 520 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,679 basically across the river right to Miami, and I'll be interested to see how 521 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,760 he works out. I think he's gonna work out just brilliantly in Miami's offense. 522 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,159 I think he's I think that was arguably one of the best underrated pickups 523 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:29,519 in the transfer portal and it was within state, right Yeah. I mean, 524 00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:31,519 if there's been anyone that's been able to use a transfer portal in the 525 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:38,360 ACC in basketball, it's it's Jim Laherne in Miami, and you know that 526 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,599 should allow them to be one of the contenders in the conference. Again, 527 00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,320 I'm still I mean, I was still that was so under the radar that 528 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,239 I missed it. And it's just I think he's gonna I think he's just 529 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,519 gonna thrive in that and in that, in that, in that, in 530 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,960 that offense because he's that's up his guard so well. Jim Laarenega does for 531 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,639 you know, for just for for for to get points and things like that. 532 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480 He depends on them a lot, and I think he's gonna thrive in 533 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:13,360 Jim Larrenega's often. So I think it's gonna be fun. And this is 534 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,599 actually gonna give us a good chance to plug this this plug our next week. 535 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,920 Next week's podcast, Jeff, we have Tristan Freeman coming on here from 536 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,480 Bruston Brackets next week and he is he's going to preview ACC men's basketball with 537 00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:31,000 us, So that is going to be fun, you know, And so 538 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,960 I always look forward to having him come on the show. This is going 539 00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:37,079 to be his third time on the show with us, and he gets better 540 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,360 every time he comes on here, So I'm looking forward to having him having 541 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,639 him come on the show. Jeff. Yeah, that's gonna be a lot 542 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,440 of fun, and that that'll be what gets me into college basketball, because 543 00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:51,679 you know, I've only kind of been looking at it from afar. I 544 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,159 fairly haven't turned the corner. But we get Tristan on here, I'll be 545 00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,960 ready to go definitely. Well, Jeff, that's been great chatting with you 546 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:05,239 this week on a classic version of the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast, and 547 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,840 we will we will podcast again next week. Have a great week, Jeff, 548 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,679 all right, you two, Matthew. Bye,