WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.040 Hey, guys, this is Laura vand Award. I played Kara Kent slash 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:48.000 Supergirl on Smallville and you are listening to Always Hold On to Smallville. Welcome 3 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:51.920 to Always Hold Onto Smallville. This podcast we talked about each and every episode 4 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.280 of the Young Superman show. They're rapping two thousand and one to two thleven 5 00:00:55.359 --> 00:01:00.600 on the WB and the CW unless we don't. It's another super Erman Special 6 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.040 number twenty one. Breaking news, my friends, because we were going to 7 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:11.079 record this month's Always on the MCU yesterday due to real life circumstances for a 8 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:14.079 lot of us. Actually we delayed it one day, and I'm glad we 9 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:23.760 did because Superman and Lois not that Sirman Lewis Superman and Lois Saiman leg if 10 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:30.640 you've coming out in ten years, yes, exactly right, let's go. 11 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:36.159 But they officially cast Superman and Lewis Lane in the gun Verse? Is that 12 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:41.120 what we're calling it? That we're calling it, I mean, I mean, 13 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.079 it's probably not the best idea to call anything the gun Verse in the 14 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:48.519 state of affairs that we live in in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty 15 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:51.400 three, but you know, we're like, hey, you know what we're 16 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:53.959 recording always on the MCU tonight, let's talk about let's do it. This 17 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.799 is a quick Superman special for breaking How often do we do breaking news? 18 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.799 Not always on the small Fore we're talking about a show that ran from two 19 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.599 thousand and two thousand eleven. As you all know, that's right on the 20 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.879 w Yeah. I don't say slash every time. It's funny when I go 21 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.639 back in the older ones, I'm like, welcome to Always hold on to 22 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:21.639 Smallville. I am your hosts man. Yes, welcome to Always. Well, 23 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.879 I should have kept this voice the whole time, But when I get 24 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:29.280 excited, I start talking faster and higher, and I'm like, God, 25 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:36.159 the cast Superman. Yes. So the news we're talking about is Superman Legacy 26 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.520 from writer, director, head of DC Studios, from the twist in mind 27 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:47.520 of James Gunn himself as you Really Want to Taste Superman and Lois Lane for 28 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:53.560 his new film Superman Legacy, and he has cast David corn Sweat as Clark 29 00:02:53.639 --> 00:03:06.199 Kent and Rachel Rosmahn, Yes, the fabulous, the marvelous Missus Maizel as 30 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.719 Lowe's Lane. And I look at these people, I'm like, yeah, 31 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.919 that's pretty good casting, Like I look at David coursweat, I'm like, 32 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.960 that's Henry Cavill, right, My my, My wife certainly thought so. 33 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.159 Um no. She she came down of Thursday like, hey, Jeff, 34 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.759 they finally cast the new Superman. Do you want to see him? And 35 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:24.960 said yeah, And I held up a picture of my phone and she thought 36 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.280 I was playing with her. She was like, is that him? I 37 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.000 was like, yeah, this is him. She's like, that's just younger 38 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:35.199 Henry Cavill exactly. That's it. Either that or it is like his younger 39 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.599 brother or something. Yeah, Like if if Henry Cavill had to be recast, 40 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.719 this is the guy who casted with Right, If if if Henry Cavill 41 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.120 played John of the Keynausperman Lewis, then they had to replace him in season 42 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.719 three, you go and you cast David because that's the same dude. I've 43 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.439 never found another person who looks more like another person, and this guy looks 44 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:59.159 like in recall I'm serious and yes, he looks like kind of Tom Willing 45 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:00.000 two. And they all and be like, well they all look like Superman. 46 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.759 Yeah, but there's everybody can see it. Everybody can see that it's 47 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.120 kind of like Henry Cavell. And that's just because Hendry Cavell didn't look like 48 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.680 Brendan Ralph. But they both look like Superman, you know what I mean. 49 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.960 Tom Willing didn't look like Chris de Reeve, but they both look like 50 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.720 Superman. Uh, you can go to tylerd Hecken looks nothing like either of 51 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:19.759 them, but he looks like Superman. So like, there's there's all these 52 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:24.240 ways you could have gone, and he went with the guy that looks just 53 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.800 like the guy who you fired. And I don't think that's the best look. 54 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.079 I wish this guy all the best, right, but this is the 55 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.199 worst possible guy you could have cast if you wanted to keep the Internet off 56 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:39.519 your back. And here we go, strap in, my friends, because 57 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:46.879 Superman Legacy comes out win twenty twenty five, right now, Yeah, Superman 58 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.560 Lives is gonna come out in nineteen ninety eight. So let's not get let's 59 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.920 not get it out of hers. I mean, it came out like a 60 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:56.519 month ago or like a few weeks ago that we're getting everyone's saying, we're 61 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.680 not here to talk about that. I think this look, this guy looks 62 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:02.160 like super Bad. I think that's good casting. I've never seen him in 63 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:10.920 anything but good Autumn. And then uh, Rachel bros Had is in The 64 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.759 Fabulous Miss Maisel, which I've seen marvelous forever. Lance. Have you seen 65 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.199 that show? Yes, it's a great show, and she's great in it 66 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.920 um as as you could see from all the awards that she's won for it 67 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:25.279 um. And then she's also great like I've I noticed her first when I 68 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.279 was watching House of Cards back in the day. Um, and she was 69 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:30.959 great in that as well. So that's where I saw her, Okay, 70 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:32.519 because I was a big House of Cards fan. Yeah, so she was 71 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.920 in that. So uh, she's been on my radar for for a while 72 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.279 now. Um, she seems like she's good for the part. Again, 73 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.000 I think this, like, I agree with you, like cool casting. 74 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.879 Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see kevit. Have you seen The 75 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.160 Fabulous Miss Mael? I have marvelous missus Maizel. There's a literation in the 76 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.839 title that's kind of where I'm at, like with Lances, kind of where 77 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.399 I met with it. It's just like they looked the part. Okay, 78 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.920 please just make a good movie, that's all I just I just want to 79 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:04.439 watch an entertaining movie. I don't need it to be super inside baseball nerdy. 80 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.759 I don't need to be like, oh I know this thing from this 81 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.759 particular. I'm not that guy. Just make a good movie. I just 82 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:14.279 want to see a fun Superman movie, that's all. And if it needs 83 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:17.040 to connect to a universe, sure, but please just make a good movie. 84 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:23.480 I want to go see a good superhero movie because it's getting harder and 85 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.360 harder for me to enjoy, Like every what are you talking about? You 86 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:31.360 like everything I did until he saw until I saw the last one. It 87 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:35.079 broke me. Oh man, this is a nerd awakening. He's finally coved 88 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:41.279 to our level after years, all this optimism. It's just it's just I 89 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.720 don't know, man, it's just like it's cool, Like you know, 90 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:50.519 I do you know? We got a saying down in Texas that is perfect. 91 00:06:55.319 --> 00:07:02.399 Shame on, shame on on on you and you, sir, I've 92 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.199 never thought about that. Have missed that president, but I do. I 93 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:11.000 missed that president because I have a meme to share with you keV later. 94 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:15.399 By the by the way, yes, yes it's a good one. Not 95 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:21.199 republics oh Man. All right, Well, hey, congratulations to David corn 96 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:26.439 Sweat Yeah, and Rachel's hand. I think we're all like, yeah, 97 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.839 those are two great castings. I can totally see both of those actress as 98 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.759 those characters, even though I haven't really seen much. I know a lot 99 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.639 of the Internet has been like, oh, this person, this person. 100 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:38.279 Like I've been talking about David corn Sweat for for years. Yeah, you 101 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.399 know, I've still never seen anything that dude's been in. Yeah, I 102 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:44.839 know I haven't, and but I but I like, I actually really liked 103 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:46.800 that though, because I have a chance to associate him with Superman forever. 104 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.040 Yeah, you know, I'm saying, like he can be Superman. I 105 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:51.959 don't. I don't look at him and say, well, this is someone's 106 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:57.480 so playing Superman might not Superman now, So I'm excited about that. And 107 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:03.519 same thing with Rachel brons him. Yeah, critically, he caname actress. 108 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.439 I mean that Mazel, Miss Mazel is like a period piece, so it's 109 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.600 got that kind of like nineteen forties says look that you know Lois has I 110 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.800 mean these because these characters are invented then, right, so they could lean 111 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.959 into that. They could A lot of the pictures they use are from like 112 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.759 Mazel when she's wearing like, you know, like stuff that you could He's 113 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.560 like, okay, I can see, I can see. Yeah, lois 114 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:22.959 looking like that. I mean it reminds me of Christian Bale when he was 115 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.759 cast a Batman. Everybody was a Christian Bell's Batman. It's obvious, and 116 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.559 this is similar to that. Yeah. So then I think back to like 117 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.759 Manna Steel and I'm like, they cast Henry cow I'm like, okay, 118 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:41.200 well that was the perfect choice because people wanted Tom Willing, people wanted Brend 119 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.600 and Ralph a third option, the guy they already cast a Superman who went 120 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:46.840 back and forth because he had been cast years ago on and off in and 121 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.080 Rend and Ralph or both one and two for years and like Superman fly By 122 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.279 Days and G and J. J Abrams all that stuff. So I was 123 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.039 like, oh, good, finally he's getting his shot right. Good for 124 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.360 him. And he looks just like Superman and he's a big fan. He's 125 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.200 really knowledgable at everything. I like, when you talk to Henry Keelbusterman, 126 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:07.399 he's not like, well I read Superman for all seasons. It's like, 127 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.000 yeah, that's great, but it's like, but he's talking about like for 128 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.600 Tomorrow, Like he has a deep knowledge of the of the character, and 129 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.799 I find that refreshing. Yeah. Well, the funny thing is, like, 130 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.919 you know, not like back in the day, that was the that 131 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.039 was the go to Superman book that everybody would say that they read like exactly, 132 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.080 and but now nowadays it's like I've read Supermall Star Superman. It's like, 133 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:30.360 guys, there's stories, there are other books. I don't know much 134 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:31.639 bad Batman, but you know what I read Batman? You're on and the 135 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.320 Dark Knight returns, and I think I think I know a lot about Batman. 136 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.919 Now, did you read Nightfall? Though I did read Nightfall when he 137 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:46.720 came out. What about Nights? I think I started to fall off end 138 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:54.720 They all, what are the incredible Batman trilogy? You could do? Right? 139 00:09:54.799 --> 00:10:00.759 You do Nightfall? Nights? Question the Knights end? Right? Yeah? 140 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.519 Because of an issue five hundred wasn't not because I have to having the 141 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.279 fold out issue had Azrael and had Batman, and it's like crippled Bruce Wayne 142 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.279 has to come back and beat badass quote unquote badass new cybernetic suit Batman. 143 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.399 Because you know what, nineties hardcore isn't so cool after all and that was 144 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.120 like the message of night anyway, damn it, can't you just make it? 145 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.559 I don't give a shit about Batman Brave with the bowld Okay anyway, 146 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.320 um cut all that outs, fine, now keep keep it, but that 147 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.720 keep leave that in. Can't wait for that. Robin Cathy's Damian. I 148 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.960 swear to God. I swear to God. If they make Damien the only 149 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.000 Robert the only in first Robin, I will not go see this movie. 150 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.960 I swear to God. I'll do it. Man, I'll do it. 151 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.519 You know they will have a night Wing and and let me don't you scared 152 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.000 to all exists already? Right? How Superman twenty five years old, his 153 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.440 fourth Robin Yeah, WS hates Dick Grayson keV who was his ten year old 154 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.879 son. That that's another thing that you kind of missed out on and stuff. 155 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.840 They for some reason to hide the exacts at DC and Warner Brothers do 156 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:11.960 not like Dick Grayson. That sucks. The president, the publisher of DC 157 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.840 back in like twenty to eleven, tried to get have him killed like several 158 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:24.639 times. Yeah, it's true. Oh, anyway, Amy Adams o Damy 159 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:35.639 Adams as an actress, but as los Lane perfect, like she's great in 160 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:43.639 the fighter. I always think of that Clifton no my poem by Amy Adams. 161 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.639 She's a great actress. But like, oh, well, you don't 162 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.840 look like Lois Lane at all. I know you'll dye your hair or something, 163 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:56.000 right, Oh you're you won't. Oh okay, great, I just 164 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.039 I don't understand why you just didn't die your hair black. Because Rachel Rosina 165 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.200 had looks exactly like los Lane, like Bitsie Tullick off the page looking. 166 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.080 I'm like, thank you, Like, I don't know, call me a 167 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.480 fanboy, a comboot guy, whatever, like I like it when these characters 168 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.120 look like they did and the stuff they've been in for eighty years, because 169 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.120 I want to see those things brought to life. I don't think that's too 170 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.960 much of her request, So anyway, let's know what they as. Then 171 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.480 you look back Brandon Ralph, I'm like, oh, that Tom Willie's not 172 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.240 gonna do the movie. Oh well, we'll get a few years of Smallville. 173 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.440 And that guy looks a like Superman. Great Kate Osworth. What from 174 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.919 Into the Blue or Blue Crush or one or the other. I don't I 175 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.240 get those movies confused, surely, she'll dye her hair, right, No, 176 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.039 she's gonna wear a wig and have a huge forehead because she's wearing a 177 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.679 wig and be a twenty two year old who has a six year old child. 178 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.159 Doesn't make any sense. Rose Byrne should have been los Lane. Yeah, 179 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.240 and Superman returns. Yeah. So just I'm just thinking about like I'm 180 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.399 like, Okay, so these two as a set, I'm like, that's 181 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.279 the best set of two actors that they look exactly like the characters, Like 182 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.039 you could you could use these promotional images of them as the characters and not 183 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.440 have to change anything. So like that's great. I love that. I 184 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.519 love that. When when we got the announcement by James gun making the new 185 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.440 DCU and everything, I remember in our group chat, I was like, 186 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.000 hey, I'm actually I'm excited. I I'm excited for a fresh start. 187 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.360 I can take my kids, and my kids are excited about it. By 188 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.759 the time James Gunn announced the like what January was it? Last day January 189 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.919 we had. I had just got through all the m few that I could 190 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.919 take, which was Infinity War with my kids, from Iron Man to Infinity 191 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.080 to Endgame, and uh, I was like cool, why I can do 192 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.919 it with my other you can do it my kids. They're excited. They're 193 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.440 in the superheroes now, and like I'm genuinely excited. I liked to casting. 194 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.840 They look great. I've seen a couple of clips of h Clark like 195 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.720 doing other roles, and I can see where he can, you know, 196 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.440 implement those same skills in that. But like I'm just like, just just 197 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.519 be good, Like, just make a good movie. That's where I'm at 198 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:54.159 now. I just want to see a good movie. Here's the thing though, 199 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.399 with that, you were saying, like they just had like just make 200 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.240 a good movie. It doesn't need to be X Y or Z if it 201 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.240 If it does X Y Z, that's great, but just let's make a 202 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.080 good movie first. Well here's the problem with that, keV. They don't 203 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.600 have the luxury of being able to do that for this. There is so 204 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.399 much writing on this for them, right, for the studio, for the 205 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.320 brand, that there's a lot of pressure on them to to get this right. 206 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.600 And it can't be just right. It has to be amazing. It 207 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.840 has to be It has to it has to like capture the hearts and minds 208 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.000 of everybody. It has to make a whole has to be a billion right 209 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:37.360 now, are you talking about the Flash or you're talking about Legacy? Yeah, 210 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:39.320 you know that. You know ass movie was supposed to do that as 211 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.759 well. And and since that movie was asked, um, it's put this 212 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:50.000 movie, this upcoming movie, this upcoming new before we get to this, 213 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.039 what do you talk about reboot? Because because even though the Beetle is the 214 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:56.720 first character in DC Studio, Superman Legacy is the first film again, they're 215 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:03.679 half asked of attempt reboot. For all this stuff has put Superman Legacy in 216 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:09.039 this position where it has to be everything all at once and has to be 217 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.759 extraordinary like for for and all of these things that hit all these metrics and 218 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.519 hit all these bars to to save the brand, right, And unfortunately it 219 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.000 does not have the luxury of just being you know what, let's just make 220 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.360 the best movie we can. It can't, it cannot. This movie can't 221 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.600 survive being outstanding, like not being not outstanding. It has to be And 222 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.559 if it's just man, if it's just you know, like that was pretty 223 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.480 good, I might go see it. I might might get it on on 224 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:37.840 Blu ray. It can't be that. It has to be like the best 225 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:43.480 thing that we've ever seen man, y'all feel again once again with the stuff 226 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:54.440 right, so ked it. His eyes were open. If if you hear 227 00:15:54.559 --> 00:16:00.720 certain people saying the Superman Legacy is one of the greatest comic movies of all 228 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.759 time, their favorite film of the year, and probably maybe the best film 229 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.559 they've ever seen. If you hear all that leading up to stumm a Legacy, 230 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:12.120 are you're gonna believe that? No, especially James, the head of 231 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:18.759 the studio, just had to set because I learned that nothing I care. 232 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.320 I learned that James Gunn is a businessman, that's all. Like, he 233 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.799 had to say those craps to get people to go see that movie, and 234 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.720 it didn't work. I would I would disagree, though. I think that 235 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.399 was a major miscalculation on his part. If you think about think about that, 236 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.000 all these movies were made before he came onto the head of DC Studios, 237 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:38.960 right, Yeah, So all you had to do was say, hey, 238 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.279 we're looking forward to Disham two, looking forward to The Flash, looking 239 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.519 forward to Blue Beetle, looking forward to Documan too. We hope you guys 240 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.159 enjoy that film. All those films, and then of this year, we're 241 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.960 turning to the page start a new chapter. I hope you guys enjoy it. 242 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.919 That's all you had to say, all you had to say, But 243 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.759 instead, instead for months you come out here and you say, this is 244 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.160 the greatest you will you will forgive Ezra Miller of all their sins after you 245 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.799 see the flash. That is what I was told. People looked me in 246 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:14.200 the eye and said, you forget the fact we were. We were a 247 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:23.400 hoodwinked, bamboozled. Let us astray hoodwink hoodwinked. So that's unfortunately, that's 248 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.759 correct. A lot of y'all fell for that oky dough. It's been like 249 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.000 in the biggest Okay dough that they threw it, as was Michael Keaton. 250 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:30.039 Because there's so many of y'all out there, it's like, oh, man 251 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.920 Keaton, Allie and Keaton. It's like it's just it's just like the Wizard 252 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.599 of Oz, y'all, did y'all not learn anything from that? Pay no 253 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.400 attention to the man behind the curtain. That's exactly what Keaton was for this 254 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:45.119 movie, and y'all fell, hook line and sinker for it. This is 255 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.119 where we are. Unfortunately, Unfortunately, regardless of what I thought, the 256 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.119 quality of the film was going to be for the Flash. Did I think 257 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.680 he was going to do as poorly as it's doing. No, I am 258 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.559 shocked. I am shocked, and I am proud of movie. Go any 259 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:06.039 audience of this world first seeing through the nonsense. You know, I can't. 260 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.119 I can't believe, like you people out there must be way more too 261 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.039 than I thought, because I thought somebody would see this. I'm like, 262 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.599 yeah, Michael Kayden has been affleck because you know I thought, you know, 263 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.400 that's what I'm thinking. I just I can't. But it's it's breaking 264 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:23.119 records for how poorly it's doing because it doesn't matter. Like at this point 265 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.359 in watching, James gunn bad business man for saying it doesn't matter if I 266 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.720 came out Kip, Yeah, not a good businessman, not a good marketing 267 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:36.000 strategist. Yeah, like it just it just doesn't factor into anything. We're 268 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:37.359 not going to see a sequel, so I don't care about the characters. 269 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.480 Like it's just I mean, even if we weren't going to see a sequel, 270 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.519 like we wouldn't we didn't care about the characters. Yeah, I'm just 271 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:47.640 mad that they tried to use that story. So now if we get another 272 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:52.119 Flash movie with a actual person who should be the flash they already have. 273 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.559 Like if you're like, oh, well they're trying to take like they just 274 00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:00.519 should have canceled that movie. You can't do that though, Like I don't 275 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.839 know, but but you know, as far as Superman, like, I 276 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:08.000 am excited because I this is the most sweaty I've been about comic book characters 277 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.359 with Superman movie coming out, like still came out. I was just like, 278 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:17.759 what terminology is that sweaty? Sorry video game terminology. I'm into it. 279 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:18.759 I'm into it man, it still came out. I was like, 280 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.720 Okay, cool, I'll go check it. You know, I'll go. 281 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:26.440 I'll go watch it because I knew Henry cavill as the Count of Monte Cristo 282 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:29.519 UM because I love that movie and he was, uh, you know, 283 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:37.200 the young Mondego and that I thought might as well have been. I'm genuinely 284 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.559 excited to see what I hope is going to be a fun, hopeful everything 285 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.599 they've been saying, this is movie's Superman supposed to be. I really want 286 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:52.599 to see that um in a movie in a modern eraror so. I'm cautiously 287 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.119 optimistic, but I am not putting my emotions into all these things like I 288 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.160 have been. I'm too old for it now. My heart can't take it. 289 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.240 I would love to go see a Superman movie and have it be like 290 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:03.640 critically acclaimed. Everybody love it, right, it'd be fantastic, right, 291 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.279 like oh we're back right Superman. Right, but just just what they needed 292 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:12.559 to take a break, you know, like like shut it down, let's 293 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:18.000 go along, all right, as Lances said in many a group chat for 294 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.279 the last few years now. But really, though, how do you just 295 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.920 roll into this after the nonsense it's been coming out this year and it's just 296 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.240 gonna get worse y'all. I was trying to think about, like, you 297 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:30.000 know, I was like, man, come on and take because like you 298 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.920 generally, you are really ultimately things, you like everything, And you know 299 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.160 what's been a factor in my descent into madness. And it's not the movie's 300 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.759 fault. It's my fault. I gotta get off Twitter. Twitter is Twitter 301 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.400 is ruining superhero movies for me, because if you don't like it, you're 302 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.920 an idiot. If you love it, you're an idiot. It's just I 303 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.680 just I just can't, like I can't do this of course anymore so like 304 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:55.799 maybe I'll just not try to listen to anyone's thoughts about any movie and to 305 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.759 just go watch it. Well, kay, I think if you just go 306 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.839 by Rode Tomatoes, you should be a kay. That's what I've learned. 307 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.839 Lance you you hate Batman U Superman? Right, that's correct. Okay, 308 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.559 it has twenty seven percent Rod Tomatoes. That's not this crecent, not twenty 309 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.920 seven percent. I wouldn't give it in twenty seven percent, No exactly. 310 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:29.279 Now maybe maybe thirty nine okay seven. With all these things, I always 311 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.559 trust my gut in my own eyes with these things, and I'll trust my 312 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:34.119 own brain and and granted, like yeah, you are all right. Like 313 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.880 some of the stuff that you see on Twitter is uh is ridiculous. But 314 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:42.559 to quote yourself, right, Twitter is not a real place. And so 315 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.279 I can I can swim through that, and I can wade through that, 316 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.880 and I and and it's not a real place, but it takes up so 317 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.319 much for my real time. I don't know like I can exist in it 318 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.200 because like why have you guys, and like other like side chats going on. 319 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.400 I'm waiting for us to migrate to like WhatsApp or something like I'm like 320 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.279 can we just get off of this because there for you guys, I created 321 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.680 a Twitter for this podcast. Back, okay, set me free, man, 322 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:18.680 hey man, let's not go there. Oh we're off a raiser. 323 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:27.559 But yeah, he's handsome and he's six foot four. Let's go Superman is 324 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:32.279 bigger than me. Now, I'm ready to watch David corn sweat. He's 325 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:37.079 six foot four. Rachel Brosnahan five foot three. I love it. That 326 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.559 is quite a high difference. That's like you and Jess, Kevin. That 327 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:45.480 is exactly me and Jess. I cannot wait to see that because, like, 328 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.359 that's one of the things one of the reasons I really liked Henry Cavill 329 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.200 Superman because he was like, like he was just a massive human, Like 330 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.079 he's just a big guy. And I don't think this Superman needs to be 331 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.759 as jacked as Harry Cavill. I don't think anybody's be that jack. That's 332 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.440 just scary. By the way, Davin corns At six four, Chris Reeve 333 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:08.160 six four, cool tall, has men into play Superman. Rachel Brosenhand five 334 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:12.599 three, Margaret Kidder five seven. Uh, that gives you just a little 335 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.519 bit more context for what their high difference is gonna be. It's that it's 336 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.400 that Superman for all seasons. High difference. But Cod Brooks is taller than 337 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:25.400 Tyler. Yes, and so is Michael Cutlis. Yeah, I'm like, 338 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.440 come on, Jesseph really coming around on Tyler Ecklan. I love him a 339 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.160 super red but like, like, you guys know how much crap I gave 340 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.160 him for brend and Ralph being like for just taller than yes, and they're 341 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:37.440 doing it. They're putting him in positions to fail. You know, they 342 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.640 need to shoot him like Tom Hardy is. I'm taller than Tom Hardy, 343 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:48.880 right, I am my mom, Kevi, you talk about you and Jess's 344 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:56.160 high difference. I'm jealous because Sarah and I are basically the same heights because 345 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.440 I iced to use his equals. Oh look at that saved right there. 346 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.319 I am interested to see um. Like I hope we just get a crap 347 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.000 town of clark Kent. I just I just want a lot of Clark Ken. 348 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:18.519 I mean, as as I've said many times and several times, I 349 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.200 if it's good, that would be wonderful. Right, I'm not rooting for 350 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.599 it to fail, but if I can, if I can tell that it's 351 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.319 not going to do well because of four decision making. Uh, and I 352 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:32.119 call it out. It's not my fault. Do you think this is going 353 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.960 to do well or not? Less? What do you think? I don't 354 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.759 know. I can't. It's it's too it's way too early to tell, 355 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:38.880 way too early to tell. But but the thing is, they have a 356 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.279 steep hill to climb with with this. As as as as I've already you 357 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.880 know, laid out earlier, this has to do so many different things because 358 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:55.920 of you know, how damaged the brand is because of past past failures and 359 00:24:56.119 --> 00:25:00.359 passed bad decision making and passed uh you know, poorly the execution, poorly 360 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:06.119 executed planning, right, Like, you know, they have to this. 361 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:10.480 This movie has to do so much heavy lifting for so many different things, 362 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:15.160 and the pressure of all of that might kill this. I mean, I'm 363 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:19.200 just I'm just being real. Mhm. No, you're right. There really 364 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.880 is no way to know. Um, Like they're they're they're in an O 365 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.359 two count right, like this is what this is? This that's true? 366 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:32.119 Now, when they when they rebooted with Mannis Steele, that was like, 367 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:37.400 well, Chris Nolan ended that Batman story, so I really can't continue that 368 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.119 and all that was there was like Green Lantern and there were Superman returns, 369 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.079 and people wanted to go in a different direction at the time, and they 370 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:45.759 would Superman returns, they would have been a sequel of Brian Singer had just 371 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:52.480 like stayed on task, which, as we learned in t Yes Disgrace Silo 372 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:57.160 director Brian Singer, Actually that's correct. Um Valkra is pretty good movie though. 373 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:03.000 Actually, but no, I mean they were they were ready to go. 374 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:03.799 I mean it was green lit, right, I mean, there's gonna 375 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.640 be Sumer returns too. They just didn't get around to it, and so 376 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.720 like it just kind of petered out. And then then they didn't, you 377 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.039 know, Man of Steel. So Man of Stel didn't have a lot to 378 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.200 overcome. I mean think about that, right, Super returns, oh six, 379 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.680 Man of Steel twenty thirteen. Yeah, it had it had time. 380 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:25.279 You had two critically acclaimed Batman movies in between those two, and then you 381 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.519 had Green Letder. It's like ever, oh crap, you had Jonahaxa forgot 382 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.799 the worst coming movie all the time, but no one even knew that existed 383 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.079 other than people like us Lance. That's true. So anyway, this is 384 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:41.640 like having to overcome so much in such a quick amount of time. But 385 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.039 but and here's the key. Here's the key. Here's the key. The 386 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.119 same creative people who were involved in the stuff now, right, they didn't 387 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.839 take Brian Singer and hey, you're directing Man of Steel and by the way, 388 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.079 you're in charge of all the DC movies moving forward. For example, 389 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.720 right with James Gunn, it's like, hey, I know you're doing a 390 00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.440 lot of stuff here already. Why don't you just keep doing that stuff? 391 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.599 And you know, and then I think that's that's It's like the Batman. 392 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.640 It's a completely separate thing with Matt Reeves. That's why you can be like, 393 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:08.599 oh well I really like the Batman, then keep all right, and 394 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.000 that's that's a separate thing. But this is like there's so much carryover and 395 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.680 it's so vague reboot, and I think that's that's been hurting it, yeah, 396 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.119 because because people this is more of the same, right, Yeah, 397 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.200 it's like hurting it. Technically, it's not like if you have to sit 398 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.759 down and explain that, Like if you have to sit down and explain why 399 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.720 putting a baby in a microwave is a bad idea, you've already been a 400 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:33.480 bad decision. Okay, you didn't show the same thing. Do you guys 401 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.200 think that now that like I mean, obviously we still got what blue beetle 402 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.400 and aquamanto and in else that's it. That's it. So do you think 403 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.519 now that like those those all be done by this year? Do you think 404 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:47.319 now James Gunn may shift his tone a little bit to being like these things 405 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:48.759 are great and I and he's like, well not now, this is like 406 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.319 okay, because it seems like he's just playing ball because they're Warner Brothers and 407 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.640 he worked for them, and he kind of has to be like, oh, 408 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.599 you know, but you don't you don't have to say it's the greatest 409 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:00.640 movie ever seeing you know what I mean? Oh no, no, no, 410 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.039 no, no, I do what you're saying. But you really overplayed 411 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:08.160 your head. Yeah yeah, because now like he's he's lost like a lot 412 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:14.880 of a whole lot of credibility. Yeah. Well apparently, which again hurts 413 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.240 him in the long run because he's the guy that's in charge of this new 414 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.920 Superman project. Right, And so if the same guy that was saying that 415 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.400 the greatest movie of all time was a superhero movie of all time was the 416 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.119 flash and we all know that it isn't um. Then it's like, well, 417 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.519 how are people going to take his word when he's talking about how great 418 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.640 Superman legacy is. Man, Well, I can't wait for him to hire 419 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.880 Michael Rosenbaum and get all those fans back too. You know he's he's gonna 420 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.359 do. That's a great that's a great Sigreif I do want to talk about, 421 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.960 like Luthor casting that, there's been lots of rumors both Scars Guard brothers 422 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.640 are apparently up for it. Tarzan and it the cloud It's not the name 423 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.000 of the clown Jaws, is not the name of the shark? Is it 424 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.839 the name of the cloudy Penny? Why isn't it? Yes? Yeah, 425 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:56.720 oh no. When you when you said, uh, the other Scars, 426 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.640 I thought of, uh, that's the same one from the Worman right, 427 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.000 that Viking movie that came out a couple of years ago where he looked like 428 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.880 a mountain of a man. Yeah, the Northman's really good, by the 429 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.599 way, Yeah, it's amazing. One of the Scars Guards is the Northman. 430 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.640 I don't know what he is. I just know it from God Zilo 431 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:21.359 versus Can and of course Tarzan. Yeah, isn't. So those two are 432 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.400 all I ever see is the Nicholas Holt. Yeah, okay, that's what 433 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.799 Nicholas Holt, who the poor guy. He tried it out for for the 434 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:34.039 Batman didn't get it. He tried out for Top Gun Maverick didn't get it. 435 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.279 He tried out for Superman apparently didn't get it. Um, Honestly, 436 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.519 that's fine because like, oh yeah, yeah in several films, and you're 437 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.680 like Ben Affleck was dear Nope, I'm like, first of all, that's 438 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.960 that's close to Ben affleck solo Batman movie we're ever gonna get and I've always 439 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:56.119 liked it, So that's fine, right, Justice, Hey, Michael Clarke, 440 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:03.119 Duncan was a Badasslex Luthor, let me tell you r to live somebody 441 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.119 Eldwhiz does. But you know it would be a great legs Uthor. Michael 442 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.240 Faspinder, you know, I'm I look at the cast of X Men. 443 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.400 I'm like, that's the one you're gonna pick to play likes Luthor. Right, 444 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.359 I'm fine with him not getting it, But I don't know. So 445 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:22.119 the Scars, Guards and Nicholas Holt are all rumored right now. Okay, 446 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.039 So despite Michael Rosa Vot's best efforts to get his friend Jade's Gunn to cast 447 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.720 him as Lex Luthor. I don't think it's gonna happen. He needs the 448 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.319 money. I mean, as we can tell from you know, talking about 449 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:37.839 Damn. Now, I will say no funny we were kind of joking about 450 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.279 earlier, but this is the night of the season finale of Thank God. 451 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.400 Not the series finale in a good way, yea, but the season finale 452 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.359 of Superman Lewis. And uh, Michael cutlets the current les Uther on that 453 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:53.319 show head of tweet and he said, Joseph the record on the next looks 454 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.279 Luthor, y'all are talking about the next next Looks Luthor. Enjoy Superman Lewis 455 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:03.519 season finale starts soon. Hashteck sorry not sorry, which which which I really 456 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.799 appreciate because you know, as I mentioned in our like when we were talking 457 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.400 earlier, when this news broke, it's like, that's great, but like, 458 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.000 couldn't they have waited another day to do this? This is this is 459 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:17.440 the third time that the movie to Division has tried to steal the shine of 460 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.640 the DC heroes on TV, which is another bad move by their by their 461 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.880 by their team. Uh, and it's other poor management and also just disrespectful, 462 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.640 right, Like why does this continue to happen? The Sea the season 463 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.440 finale, which you know, a couple of weeks ago could have been the 464 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.440 series finale of this TV show would have been would have been upstaged by the 465 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.680 fact that the like you know that you know, James Gunn and his new 466 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.839 movie Universe had casted their people. This The same thing happened on the debut 467 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.880 of The Flash um and then the same thing almost happened with like the Flashes 468 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:52.119 series finale when that ass movie Oh he's starring the same character came out around 469 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.079 the same time. It's like, what are you guys doing? They don't 470 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.880 know you like just like again like generally the left hand is not know what 471 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.200 the right hand is doing. Yeah, well, well the thing is like 472 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:08.079 Steve Stephen Mill's right look all right, Like there their continued disrespect of of 473 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.480 of anything that is not on the big screen is so apparent, and it's 474 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.759 like look y'all, like like all of y'all are doing the same stuff, 475 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.359 right, but like there's this there's this increase of of you know, want 476 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.480 to be prestige that is given towards the movies. And I get that movies 477 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.359 get they get bigger budgets, they make more money. I understand all that, 478 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.119 but like, you can't treat everybody else like crap, like they don't 479 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.400 matter, right, which is my one of my biggest problems with the Hollywood 480 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.599 machine in general, right, because it's actively discriminatory against so many different things 481 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:46.119 and only wants to perpet only wants to to pump up certain things. We 482 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.640 got to stop with this, you know, thinking that one thing is so 483 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.319 super great and then ignoring the fact that when other people do similar things that 484 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.720 is automatically not We can't be actively discriminatory against things. I hate that stuff 485 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.000 absolutely. By the way, what do you think of Michael Colits just like 486 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:07.799 suthor Lance? Sorry no I did, I've seen up to the scene where 487 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.279 he's at their porch yelling at Lois. That was a good seed. Yeah, 488 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:21.119 yeah, completely shifted gears. It's like, damn, that reminds that. 489 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:28.559 That reminded me of the Popeyes guys act six face red fe So words 490 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:35.079 could fetch this here. We told that story of podcast somewhere, look it 491 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.160 up. My favorite favorite memories with Lands is sitting in a Popeyes once and 492 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.240 then the other time the other time. Actually, I guarantee we told that 493 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.960 story because I knew we told that story in the Wizard Rold episode we were 494 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.359 driving back from Austin when we almost died in the Popeye Chicken Sandwich. Hype 495 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.039 was real, y'all. Think the hpe of the Flashers roll. I'll tell 496 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.880 you what. Some hype. The hype for the Popeye Chicken Sandwich that was 497 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:02.880 legit. They shut that Popeyes down early. No, something that I'm realizing 498 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.360 about, yah know, something that I'm realizing about. Like like, so, 499 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.400 like you know, you asked hey things about Lex Luthor. We're talking 500 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:15.280 about this earlier with the Flash. Um, so you know everyone knows I'm 501 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.639 just now getting into comics, like you know, and I'm only just reading 502 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.719 comics basically off what shows I'm a part of. So like when people are 503 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.239 like, oh, what do you about this Lex Luthor? I don't know 504 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.039 if I know how Lex Luthor is supposed to be. Every time I've seen 505 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.280 Lex Luthor, Ye're like, that's not how he asks the Flash, that's 506 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:30.760 how he really is Superman. That's not how it really is. Okay, 507 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.119 Batman doesn't kill so like, I don't know, how are you supposed to 508 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.480 be the answers the DCN mid universe An yeah, I mean yeah, so 509 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.840 like like like I have all seen them all in the cartoons, but every 510 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.960 live action in iteration, I've seen these characters. For some reason, they're 511 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.679 like, we gotta make it our own, and that's not really liked by 512 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:51.599 a lot of people. So the closest live action when we got is Rosenbaum. 513 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.719 Yeah. Well, and and like that's the Lex Luthor. I like 514 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.239 not because it's Michael Roseamama Smallville. I just enjoy that kind of character if 515 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:00.480 any of those guys because like you know, it's like, oh, you're 516 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.840 like a Scars guard or like Nicholas holds up for it. But those are 517 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.360 great actors. They should do great, but if they're not directed due, 518 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.119 well, then they're gonna suck. Jesse Eisenberg isn't a bad actor, but 519 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.840 they made him act silly. That's why I don't like them. So like 520 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:13.559 if you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, 521 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.000 he's not as bad as he performed in that movie. You know what I'm 522 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.559 saying, He's kind of huh, he's kind of a one hit Wonder as 523 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:22.599 far as oh sorry, not one hit wonder. He's kind of like a 524 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:28.920 one pitch picture. He's like he's Michael Sarah. Yeah, remember he was 525 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:35.880 like, oh yeah, the Nichael Michael Sarah knockoff right now, he's you 526 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.880 know, yeah. I just I just I just want to see good, 527 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.800 definitive versions of these characters that I could just kind of get behind and not 528 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.800 not feel weird when I watch them. Like is like someone was telling me, 529 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.000 like a like somebody when I went and saw the Flash that early screening 530 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.800 someone was leaving and he was like, the Flash isn't even like that, 531 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.880 that is correct? And I was like, oh, you know, I 532 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.559 was was walking out and do it after when they thought about it, and 533 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.119 I was like, oh, you know, you know, and he's like, 534 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.840 the Flash isn't even like that. Like the Flash is like a smart, 535 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.960 like strong, like like you know, like guy, he's not some 536 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.039 doofist running around all the time. Like oh well, I've only ever seen 537 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.559 the Flash be insecure and unsure of himself because that's the only flash of Vertine. 538 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.119 I thought of the cartoons, well you need to watch the nineteen ninety 539 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:27.039 Flash KIF. Yeah, yeah, they should have to and in the head 540 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.480 maybe they I cannot believe. I cannot believe the c w let Ezra Miller 541 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:37.519 be in their flash but not let any of the c w K. This 542 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.119 is what I just talking about, just talking about about this stuff, because 543 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.519 it's all it all goes down to just I got his right back off. 544 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.199 I'm sorry, um, but let's let's supercasting, right, you know, 545 00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.599 super low loser Michael Cutletz uh Like I said, I always on seros kind 546 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.599 of his son's and anarchy thing twenty Like, I lance, like, what' 547 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.320 you think before U that we came out with that episode, and he's like, 548 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.840 it's like a Selens of anarchy Lex. That's exactly what I said. 549 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.639 I always expect him to get on a motorcycle and drive off after me. 550 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.760 Yeah, Ron Perlman is a Lex luthor. That is what which is you 551 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.440 know, it's a different take. We'll see. The thing is we've seen 552 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.000 him in two episodes so far, and it's like a guy who's been in 553 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.199 prison for over fifteen years, and we'll see like he's talking about season four, 554 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:28.840 right, he's a series regular in season four yea. So if they 555 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.480 go back to Metropolis and he's like the Lex Luthor. If he shaves his 556 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.800 goatee because they're they're a shave to have a clean shaven, bald headed Lex 557 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.840 Luthor apparently, then we'll see. But there's there's a lot more to come 558 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.679 from this character, and we'll see. I mean, he's not the top 559 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.960 of my list, he's on my bottom of my list. He's fine service, 560 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.320 Will is getting the job done. I agree with that. There's so 561 00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.480 many ways they could take Lex Luthor right. And then in the Superman legacy, 562 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.159 like I hope they just again look at the DCAU as the blueprint. 563 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.239 I want to see a guy who's in charge of LexCorp And loves Metropolis and 564 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.960 Superman shows up and then he can't handle the uh, the attention being shifted 565 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.159 away from him, like you know, John Shay and Lewis and Clark. 566 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.719 That was his deal. That was a great leg south. He had hair, 567 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:08.599 right, he lost his hair later got it back, you know. 568 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.480 But that's let's go with that approach, because that's an approach that we never 569 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:19.559 really you know, get to see. So but yeah, that's uh, 570 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.320 that's your Superman Special update on the on the casting and other other stray thoughts. 571 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:30.639 Who about the DC. You m ricocheting all around the man, going 572 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.000 everywhere, can't No one is safe. Nope, it's now that O eight 573 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.199 right now over here for me? You know what the thing is? Man 574 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.960 like, I'm expected to love this and people are gonna get mad at me 575 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.400 if I don't. And that's right, that's unfortunate, right, it's what 576 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.559 do you mean you're excited about super legacy again? It's not your fault. 577 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:50.800 We know whose fault it is, Zack Snyder sault right like, no, 578 00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.280 see see other than that, you thought I was gonna go there, but 579 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.119 no, it's not his fault. Not taught, not entirely. God, 580 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.440 I want to be wrong. I want to kick ass. Well, the 581 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.960 thing is, Kevin, we do too. But the thing is I have 582 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.199 somebody callouses from from from putting up with all the badness. That's comfortable. 583 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:15.360 There's an old saying, yeah, exactly, there we are. So this 584 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.679 is this is the life of a DC fat joel m Are we going to 585 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:22.000 see it? Of course? Yep, no, they already. I have 586 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.320 had our minds changed before. You know. We're all like so anti the 587 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.599 Batman. The Batman's fantastic. Yeah, oh man, And I was happy 588 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.679 because I was giddy from day one. I was enjoyed it. I want 589 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.119 us all to enjoy something together, right, yes, yeah, and who 590 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.320 knows, maybe by the time legacy rolls around, I can go. I 591 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:43.400 could be in the theater with you guys. That's true. We'll see you 592 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.519 can be at our immediate midnight recording that we do with these things. Yeah, 593 00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.119 I was unofficially, that's true. He didn't call Kevin on the way 594 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.440 over from the flash, and of course he liked it more than us. 595 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.800 But it's okay. He's he's learning. Yeah, I'll think, Oh, 596 00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.320 man, where I do with my kids? Know? The worst thing you 597 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.800 do is take your kids a week before they gave him By Won't Get One 598 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.719 Free ticket? Yeah, in a week two he could have saved a hundred 599 00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:15.840 dollars man. Yeah, no, it's expensive, a bunch of what what 600 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.639 an insane promotion in week two of your movie By Will Get One Free Anyway, 601 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.960 tried to tell y'all, I thought I was gonna be here because we're 602 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.239 gonna do some man special. You guys are gonna be there. So I'll 603 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.280 just say this here, all this talk over the years of Lance and I, 604 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.639 oh, our friendship's gonna end watching the Flash. I thought, I 605 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.639 really though I thought I was gonna go down this way. I was like, 606 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:42.039 man, I mean I don't love it, but it's okay, and 607 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.519 Lance hates it. We're gonna talk about it on Mike. I'm gonna have 608 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.519 like defend it. And I'd be like, well, you know, I 609 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.360 know you're upset about this, Boe about this not a problem. Let's say 610 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.679 the work. It's incredible. How bad that was? No? Well, 611 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.360 I mean I was like, yeah, so I'm met with you to flash, 612 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.960 and I remember thinking like I I was put in the group chat, 613 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.199 I am the problem. I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna love it. 614 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.599 And I went and saw it and then all it took was me, like 615 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.639 I started talking when you guys called me, I started talking out the story, 616 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.239 and within like a few minutes, I was like, oh no, 617 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.079 this is dumb. Well, you try to write stories and you try to 618 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.599 think logical like A to B and you where I'll never finish the story because 619 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.679 I'm too bisy worried about stupidity stuff. But yeah, no, it just 620 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.559 it bothered me so much. But yeah, hey, uh that that's that's 621 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.239 one least thing we gotta worry about. I got to sit here and try 622 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:38.239 to make you think the flash is good. One thing we get all that's 623 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.480 that's all so fared off about it because it's like, oh, finally the 624 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.159 same thing, and imagine that y'all sometimes we disagree and we can all still 625 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.880 be friends. Isn't that wild? Apparently crazy enough time on Twitter, Becausider 626 00:41:52.960 --> 00:42:01.599 told me that's so there you go. There's your impromptu Superman special about the 627 00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:08.840 casting announces for Superman Legacy and all kinds of straight shots friendly fire about DC 628 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:13.880 on film along the way. Those aren't straight shots. Those are raimed For 629 00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:19.440 me, at least one shot won't kill lurra. Well, we'll be back 630 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.920 when they cast Lex live there, Jimmy Olson, Ferry White and the authority. 631 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:25.760 I mean, yeah, I guess we should. This will be a 632 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.000 thing. What well, you know what. We're gonna ride the train, 633 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.400 y'all. All right, We're gonna ride the Superman Legacy train all the way 634 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.440 to twenty twenty five. This is this is exciting. This is the fun 635 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:39.360 part. 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