Hey, guys, this is Laura vand Award. I played Kara Kent slash
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record this month's Always on the MCU yesterday due to real life circumstances for a
lot of us. Actually we delayed it one day, and I'm glad we
did because Superman and Lois not that Sirman Lewis Superman and Lois Saiman leg if
you've coming out in ten years, yes, exactly right, let's go.
But they officially cast Superman and Lewis Lane in the gun Verse? Is that
what we're calling it? That we're calling it, I mean, I mean,
it's probably not the best idea to call anything the gun Verse in the
state of affairs that we live in in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty
three, but you know, we're like, hey, you know what we're
recording always on the MCU tonight, let's talk about let's do it. This
is a quick Superman special for breaking How often do we do breaking news?
Not always on the small Fore we're talking about a show that ran from two
thousand and two thousand eleven. As you all know, that's right on the
w Yeah. I don't say slash every time. It's funny when I go
back in the older ones, I'm like, welcome to Always hold on to
Smallville. I am your hosts man. Yes, welcome to Always. Well,
I should have kept this voice the whole time, But when I get
excited, I start talking faster and higher, and I'm like, God,
the cast Superman. Yes. So the news we're talking about is Superman Legacy
from writer, director, head of DC Studios, from the twist in mind
of James Gunn himself as you Really Want to Taste Superman and Lois Lane for
his new film Superman Legacy, and he has cast David corn Sweat as Clark
Kent and Rachel Rosmahn, Yes, the fabulous, the marvelous Missus Maizel as
Lowe's Lane. And I look at these people, I'm like, yeah,
that's pretty good casting, Like I look at David coursweat, I'm like,
that's Henry Cavill, right, My my, My wife certainly thought so.
Um no. She she came down of Thursday like, hey, Jeff,
they finally cast the new Superman. Do you want to see him? And
said yeah, And I held up a picture of my phone and she thought
I was playing with her. She was like, is that him? I
was like, yeah, this is him. She's like, that's just younger
Henry Cavill exactly. That's it. Either that or it is like his younger
brother or something. Yeah, Like if if Henry Cavill had to be recast,
this is the guy who casted with Right, If if if Henry Cavill
played John of the Keynausperman Lewis, then they had to replace him in season
three, you go and you cast David because that's the same dude. I've
never found another person who looks more like another person, and this guy looks
like in recall I'm serious and yes, he looks like kind of Tom Willing
two. And they all and be like, well they all look like Superman.
Yeah, but there's everybody can see it. Everybody can see that it's
kind of like Henry Cavell. And that's just because Hendry Cavell didn't look like
Brendan Ralph. But they both look like Superman, you know what I mean.
Tom Willing didn't look like Chris de Reeve, but they both look like
Superman. Uh, you can go to tylerd Hecken looks nothing like either of
them, but he looks like Superman. So like, there's there's all these
ways you could have gone, and he went with the guy that looks just
like the guy who you fired. And I don't think that's the best look.
I wish this guy all the best, right, but this is the
worst possible guy you could have cast if you wanted to keep the Internet off
your back. And here we go, strap in, my friends, because
Superman Legacy comes out win twenty twenty five, right now, Yeah, Superman
Lives is gonna come out in nineteen ninety eight. So let's not get let's
not get it out of hers. I mean, it came out like a
month ago or like a few weeks ago that we're getting everyone's saying, we're
not here to talk about that. I think this look, this guy looks
like super Bad. I think that's good casting. I've never seen him in
anything but good Autumn. And then uh, Rachel bros Had is in The
Fabulous Miss Maisel, which I've seen marvelous forever. Lance. Have you seen
that show? Yes, it's a great show, and she's great in it
um as as you could see from all the awards that she's won for it
um. And then she's also great like I've I noticed her first when I
was watching House of Cards back in the day. Um, and she was
great in that as well. So that's where I saw her, Okay,
because I was a big House of Cards fan. Yeah, so she was
in that. So uh, she's been on my radar for for a while
now. Um, she seems like she's good for the part. Again,
I think this, like, I agree with you, like cool casting.
Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see kevit. Have you seen The
Fabulous Miss Mael? I have marvelous missus Maizel. There's a literation in the
title that's kind of where I'm at, like with Lances, kind of where
I met with it. It's just like they looked the part. Okay,
please just make a good movie, that's all I just I just want to
watch an entertaining movie. I don't need it to be super inside baseball nerdy.
I don't need to be like, oh I know this thing from this
particular. I'm not that guy. Just make a good movie. I just
want to see a fun Superman movie, that's all. And if it needs
to connect to a universe, sure, but please just make a good movie.
I want to go see a good superhero movie because it's getting harder and
harder for me to enjoy, Like every what are you talking about? You
like everything I did until he saw until I saw the last one. It
broke me. Oh man, this is a nerd awakening. He's finally coved
to our level after years, all this optimism. It's just it's just I
don't know, man, it's just like it's cool, Like you know,
I do you know? We got a saying down in Texas that is perfect.
Shame on, shame on on on you and you, sir, I've
never thought about that. Have missed that president, but I do. I
missed that president because I have a meme to share with you keV later.
By the by the way, yes, yes it's a good one. Not
republics oh Man. All right, Well, hey, congratulations to David corn
Sweat Yeah, and Rachel's hand. I think we're all like, yeah,
those are two great castings. I can totally see both of those actress as
those characters, even though I haven't really seen much. I know a lot
of the Internet has been like, oh, this person, this person.
Like I've been talking about David corn Sweat for for years. Yeah, you
know, I've still never seen anything that dude's been in. Yeah, I
know I haven't, and but I but I like, I actually really liked
that though, because I have a chance to associate him with Superman forever.
Yeah, you know, I'm saying, like he can be Superman. I
don't. I don't look at him and say, well, this is someone's
so playing Superman might not Superman now, So I'm excited about that. And
same thing with Rachel brons him. Yeah, critically, he caname actress.
I mean that Mazel, Miss Mazel is like a period piece, so it's
got that kind of like nineteen forties says look that you know Lois has I
mean these because these characters are invented then, right, so they could lean
into that. They could A lot of the pictures they use are from like
Mazel when she's wearing like, you know, like stuff that you could He's
like, okay, I can see, I can see. Yeah, lois
looking like that. I mean it reminds me of Christian Bale when he was
cast a Batman. Everybody was a Christian Bell's Batman. It's obvious, and
this is similar to that. Yeah. So then I think back to like
Manna Steel and I'm like, they cast Henry cow I'm like, okay,
well that was the perfect choice because people wanted Tom Willing, people wanted Brend
and Ralph a third option, the guy they already cast a Superman who went
back and forth because he had been cast years ago on and off in and
Rend and Ralph or both one and two for years and like Superman fly By
Days and G and J. J Abrams all that stuff. So I was
like, oh, good, finally he's getting his shot right. Good for
him. And he looks just like Superman and he's a big fan. He's
really knowledgable at everything. I like, when you talk to Henry Keelbusterman,
he's not like, well I read Superman for all seasons. It's like,
yeah, that's great, but it's like, but he's talking about like for
Tomorrow, Like he has a deep knowledge of the of the character, and
I find that refreshing. Yeah. Well, the funny thing is, like,
you know, not like back in the day, that was the that
was the go to Superman book that everybody would say that they read like exactly,
and but now nowadays it's like I've read Supermall Star Superman. It's like,
guys, there's stories, there are other books. I don't know much
bad Batman, but you know what I read Batman? You're on and the
Dark Knight returns, and I think I think I know a lot about Batman.
Now, did you read Nightfall? Though I did read Nightfall when he
came out. What about Nights? I think I started to fall off end
They all, what are the incredible Batman trilogy? You could do? Right?
You do Nightfall? Nights? Question the Knights end? Right? Yeah?
Because of an issue five hundred wasn't not because I have to having the
fold out issue had Azrael and had Batman, and it's like crippled Bruce Wayne
has to come back and beat badass quote unquote badass new cybernetic suit Batman.
Because you know what, nineties hardcore isn't so cool after all and that was
like the message of night anyway, damn it, can't you just make it?
I don't give a shit about Batman Brave with the bowld Okay anyway,
um cut all that outs, fine, now keep keep it, but that
keep leave that in. Can't wait for that. Robin Cathy's Damian. I
swear to God. I swear to God. If they make Damien the only
Robert the only in first Robin, I will not go see this movie.
I swear to God. I'll do it. Man, I'll do it.
You know they will have a night Wing and and let me don't you scared
to all exists already? Right? How Superman twenty five years old, his
fourth Robin Yeah, WS hates Dick Grayson keV who was his ten year old
son. That that's another thing that you kind of missed out on and stuff.
They for some reason to hide the exacts at DC and Warner Brothers do
not like Dick Grayson. That sucks. The president, the publisher of DC
back in like twenty to eleven, tried to get have him killed like several
times. Yeah, it's true. Oh, anyway, Amy Adams o Damy
Adams as an actress, but as los Lane perfect, like she's great in
the fighter. I always think of that Clifton no my poem by Amy Adams.
She's a great actress. But like, oh, well, you don't
look like Lois Lane at all. I know you'll dye your hair or something,
right, Oh you're you won't. Oh okay, great, I just
I don't understand why you just didn't die your hair black. Because Rachel Rosina
had looks exactly like los Lane, like Bitsie Tullick off the page looking.
I'm like, thank you, Like, I don't know, call me a
fanboy, a comboot guy, whatever, like I like it when these characters
look like they did and the stuff they've been in for eighty years, because
I want to see those things brought to life. I don't think that's too
much of her request, So anyway, let's know what they as. Then
you look back Brandon Ralph, I'm like, oh, that Tom Willie's not
gonna do the movie. Oh well, we'll get a few years of Smallville.
And that guy looks a like Superman. Great Kate Osworth. What from
Into the Blue or Blue Crush or one or the other. I don't I
get those movies confused, surely, she'll dye her hair, right, No,
she's gonna wear a wig and have a huge forehead because she's wearing a
wig and be a twenty two year old who has a six year old child.
Doesn't make any sense. Rose Byrne should have been los Lane. Yeah,
and Superman returns. Yeah. So just I'm just thinking about like I'm
like, Okay, so these two as a set, I'm like, that's
the best set of two actors that they look exactly like the characters, Like
you could you could use these promotional images of them as the characters and not
have to change anything. So like that's great. I love that. I
love that. When when we got the announcement by James gun making the new
DCU and everything, I remember in our group chat, I was like,
hey, I'm actually I'm excited. I I'm excited for a fresh start.
I can take my kids, and my kids are excited about it. By
the time James Gunn announced the like what January was it? Last day January
we had. I had just got through all the m few that I could
take, which was Infinity War with my kids, from Iron Man to Infinity
to Endgame, and uh, I was like cool, why I can do
it with my other you can do it my kids. They're excited. They're
in the superheroes now, and like I'm genuinely excited. I liked to casting.
They look great. I've seen a couple of clips of h Clark like
doing other roles, and I can see where he can, you know,
implement those same skills in that. But like I'm just like, just just
be good, Like, just make a good movie. That's where I'm at
now. I just want to see a good movie. Here's the thing though,
with that, you were saying, like they just had like just make
a good movie. It doesn't need to be X Y or Z if it
If it does X Y Z, that's great, but just let's make a
good movie first. Well here's the problem with that, keV. They don't
have the luxury of being able to do that for this. There is so
much writing on this for them, right, for the studio, for the
brand, that there's a lot of pressure on them to to get this right.
And it can't be just right. It has to be amazing. It
has to be It has to it has to like capture the hearts and minds
of everybody. It has to make a whole has to be a billion right
now, are you talking about the Flash or you're talking about Legacy? Yeah,
you know that. You know ass movie was supposed to do that as
well. And and since that movie was asked, um, it's put this
movie, this upcoming movie, this upcoming new before we get to this,
what do you talk about reboot? Because because even though the Beetle is the
first character in DC Studio, Superman Legacy is the first film again, they're
half asked of attempt reboot. For all this stuff has put Superman Legacy in
this position where it has to be everything all at once and has to be
extraordinary like for for and all of these things that hit all these metrics and
hit all these bars to to save the brand, right, And unfortunately it
does not have the luxury of just being you know what, let's just make
the best movie we can. It can't, it cannot. This movie can't
survive being outstanding, like not being not outstanding. It has to be And
if it's just man, if it's just you know, like that was pretty
good, I might go see it. I might might get it on on
Blu ray. It can't be that. It has to be like the best
thing that we've ever seen man, y'all feel again once again with the stuff
right, so ked it. His eyes were open. If if you hear
certain people saying the Superman Legacy is one of the greatest comic movies of all
time, their favorite film of the year, and probably maybe the best film
they've ever seen. If you hear all that leading up to stumm a Legacy,
are you're gonna believe that? No, especially James, the head of
the studio, just had to set because I learned that nothing I care.
I learned that James Gunn is a businessman, that's all. Like, he
had to say those craps to get people to go see that movie, and
it didn't work. I would I would disagree, though. I think that
was a major miscalculation on his part. If you think about think about that,
all these movies were made before he came onto the head of DC Studios,
right, Yeah, So all you had to do was say, hey,
we're looking forward to Disham two, looking forward to The Flash, looking
forward to Blue Beetle, looking forward to Documan too. We hope you guys
enjoy that film. All those films, and then of this year, we're
turning to the page start a new chapter. I hope you guys enjoy it.
That's all you had to say, all you had to say, But
instead, instead for months you come out here and you say, this is
the greatest you will you will forgive Ezra Miller of all their sins after you
see the flash. That is what I was told. People looked me in
the eye and said, you forget the fact we were. We were a
hoodwinked, bamboozled. Let us astray hoodwink hoodwinked. So that's unfortunately, that's
correct. A lot of y'all fell for that oky dough. It's been like
in the biggest Okay dough that they threw it, as was Michael Keaton.
Because there's so many of y'all out there, it's like, oh, man
Keaton, Allie and Keaton. It's like it's just it's just like the Wizard
of Oz, y'all, did y'all not learn anything from that? Pay no
attention to the man behind the curtain. That's exactly what Keaton was for this
movie, and y'all fell, hook line and sinker for it. This is
where we are. Unfortunately, Unfortunately, regardless of what I thought, the
quality of the film was going to be for the Flash. Did I think
he was going to do as poorly as it's doing. No, I am
shocked. I am shocked, and I am proud of movie. Go any
audience of this world first seeing through the nonsense. You know, I can't.
I can't believe, like you people out there must be way more too
than I thought, because I thought somebody would see this. I'm like,
yeah, Michael Kayden has been affleck because you know I thought, you know,
that's what I'm thinking. I just I can't. But it's it's breaking
records for how poorly it's doing because it doesn't matter. Like at this point
in watching, James gunn bad business man for saying it doesn't matter if I
came out Kip, Yeah, not a good businessman, not a good marketing
strategist. Yeah, like it just it just doesn't factor into anything. We're
not going to see a sequel, so I don't care about the characters.
Like it's just I mean, even if we weren't going to see a sequel,
like we wouldn't we didn't care about the characters. Yeah, I'm just
mad that they tried to use that story. So now if we get another
Flash movie with a actual person who should be the flash they already have.
Like if you're like, oh, well they're trying to take like they just
should have canceled that movie. You can't do that though, Like I don't
know, but but you know, as far as Superman, like, I
am excited because I this is the most sweaty I've been about comic book characters
with Superman movie coming out, like still came out. I was just like,
what terminology is that sweaty? Sorry video game terminology. I'm into it.
I'm into it man, it still came out. I was like,
Okay, cool, I'll go check it. You know, I'll go.
I'll go watch it because I knew Henry cavill as the Count of Monte Cristo
UM because I love that movie and he was, uh, you know,
the young Mondego and that I thought might as well have been. I'm genuinely
excited to see what I hope is going to be a fun, hopeful everything
they've been saying, this is movie's Superman supposed to be. I really want
to see that um in a movie in a modern eraror so. I'm cautiously
optimistic, but I am not putting my emotions into all these things like I
have been. I'm too old for it now. My heart can't take it.
I would love to go see a Superman movie and have it be like
critically acclaimed. Everybody love it, right, it'd be fantastic, right,
like oh we're back right Superman. Right, but just just what they needed
to take a break, you know, like like shut it down, let's
go along, all right, as Lances said in many a group chat for
the last few years now. But really, though, how do you just
roll into this after the nonsense it's been coming out this year and it's just
gonna get worse y'all. I was trying to think about, like, you
know, I was like, man, come on and take because like you
generally, you are really ultimately things, you like everything, And you know
what's been a factor in my descent into madness. And it's not the movie's
fault. It's my fault. I gotta get off Twitter. Twitter is Twitter
is ruining superhero movies for me, because if you don't like it, you're
an idiot. If you love it, you're an idiot. It's just I
just I just can't, like I can't do this of course anymore so like
maybe I'll just not try to listen to anyone's thoughts about any movie and to
just go watch it. Well, kay, I think if you just go
by Rode Tomatoes, you should be a kay. That's what I've learned.
Lance you you hate Batman U Superman? Right, that's correct. Okay,
it has twenty seven percent Rod Tomatoes. That's not this crecent, not twenty
seven percent. I wouldn't give it in twenty seven percent, No exactly.
Now maybe maybe thirty nine okay seven. With all these things, I always
trust my gut in my own eyes with these things, and I'll trust my
own brain and and granted, like yeah, you are all right. Like
some of the stuff that you see on Twitter is uh is ridiculous. But
to quote yourself, right, Twitter is not a real place. And so
I can I can swim through that, and I can wade through that,
and I and and it's not a real place, but it takes up so
much for my real time. I don't know like I can exist in it
because like why have you guys, and like other like side chats going on.
I'm waiting for us to migrate to like WhatsApp or something like I'm like
can we just get off of this because there for you guys, I created
a Twitter for this podcast. Back, okay, set me free, man,
hey man, let's not go there. Oh we're off a raiser.
But yeah, he's handsome and he's six foot four. Let's go Superman is
bigger than me. Now, I'm ready to watch David corn sweat. He's
six foot four. Rachel Brosnahan five foot three. I love it. That
is quite a high difference. That's like you and Jess, Kevin. That
is exactly me and Jess. I cannot wait to see that because, like,
that's one of the things one of the reasons I really liked Henry Cavill
Superman because he was like, like he was just a massive human, Like
he's just a big guy. And I don't think this Superman needs to be
as jacked as Harry Cavill. I don't think anybody's be that jack. That's
just scary. By the way, Davin corns At six four, Chris Reeve
six four, cool tall, has men into play Superman. Rachel Brosenhand five
three, Margaret Kidder five seven. Uh, that gives you just a little
bit more context for what their high difference is gonna be. It's that it's
that Superman for all seasons. High difference. But Cod Brooks is taller than
Tyler. Yes, and so is Michael Cutlis. Yeah, I'm like,
come on, Jesseph really coming around on Tyler Ecklan. I love him a
super red but like, like, you guys know how much crap I gave
him for brend and Ralph being like for just taller than yes, and they're
doing it. They're putting him in positions to fail. You know, they
need to shoot him like Tom Hardy is. I'm taller than Tom Hardy,
right, I am my mom, Kevi, you talk about you and Jess's
high difference. I'm jealous because Sarah and I are basically the same heights because
I iced to use his equals. Oh look at that saved right there.
I am interested to see um. Like I hope we just get a crap
town of clark Kent. I just I just want a lot of Clark Ken.
I mean, as as I've said many times and several times, I
if it's good, that would be wonderful. Right, I'm not rooting for
it to fail, but if I can, if I can tell that it's
not going to do well because of four decision making. Uh, and I
call it out. It's not my fault. Do you think this is going
to do well or not? Less? What do you think? I don't
know. I can't. It's it's too it's way too early to tell,
way too early to tell. But but the thing is, they have a
steep hill to climb with with this. As as as as I've already you
know, laid out earlier, this has to do so many different things because
of you know, how damaged the brand is because of past past failures and
passed bad decision making and passed uh you know, poorly the execution, poorly
executed planning, right, Like, you know, they have to this.
This movie has to do so much heavy lifting for so many different things,
and the pressure of all of that might kill this. I mean, I'm
just I'm just being real. Mhm. No, you're right. There really
is no way to know. Um, Like they're they're they're in an O
two count right, like this is what this is? This that's true?
Now, when they when they rebooted with Mannis Steele, that was like,
well, Chris Nolan ended that Batman story, so I really can't continue that
and all that was there was like Green Lantern and there were Superman returns,
and people wanted to go in a different direction at the time, and they
would Superman returns, they would have been a sequel of Brian Singer had just
like stayed on task, which, as we learned in t Yes Disgrace Silo
director Brian Singer, Actually that's correct. Um Valkra is pretty good movie though.
Actually, but no, I mean they were they were ready to go.
I mean it was green lit, right, I mean, there's gonna
be Sumer returns too. They just didn't get around to it, and so
like it just kind of petered out. And then then they didn't, you
know, Man of Steel. So Man of Stel didn't have a lot to
overcome. I mean think about that, right, Super returns, oh six,
Man of Steel twenty thirteen. Yeah, it had it had time.
You had two critically acclaimed Batman movies in between those two, and then you
had Green Letder. It's like ever, oh crap, you had Jonahaxa forgot
the worst coming movie all the time, but no one even knew that existed
other than people like us Lance. That's true. So anyway, this is
like having to overcome so much in such a quick amount of time. But
but and here's the key. Here's the key. Here's the key. The
same creative people who were involved in the stuff now, right, they didn't
take Brian Singer and hey, you're directing Man of Steel and by the way,
you're in charge of all the DC movies moving forward. For example,
right with James Gunn, it's like, hey, I know you're doing a
lot of stuff here already. Why don't you just keep doing that stuff?
And you know, and then I think that's that's It's like the Batman.
It's a completely separate thing with Matt Reeves. That's why you can be like,
oh well I really like the Batman, then keep all right, and
that's that's a separate thing. But this is like there's so much carryover and
it's so vague reboot, and I think that's that's been hurting it, yeah,
because because people this is more of the same, right, Yeah,
it's like hurting it. Technically, it's not like if you have to sit
down and explain that, Like if you have to sit down and explain why
putting a baby in a microwave is a bad idea, you've already been a
bad decision. Okay, you didn't show the same thing. Do you guys
think that now that like I mean, obviously we still got what blue beetle
and aquamanto and in else that's it. That's it. So do you think
now that like those those all be done by this year? Do you think
now James Gunn may shift his tone a little bit to being like these things
are great and I and he's like, well not now, this is like
okay, because it seems like he's just playing ball because they're Warner Brothers and
he worked for them, and he kind of has to be like, oh,
you know, but you don't you don't have to say it's the greatest
movie ever seeing you know what I mean? Oh no, no, no,
no, no, I do what you're saying. But you really overplayed
your head. Yeah yeah, because now like he's he's lost like a lot
of a whole lot of credibility. Yeah. Well apparently, which again hurts
him in the long run because he's the guy that's in charge of this new
Superman project. Right, And so if the same guy that was saying that
the greatest movie of all time was a superhero movie of all time was the
flash and we all know that it isn't um. Then it's like, well,
how are people going to take his word when he's talking about how great
Superman legacy is. Man, Well, I can't wait for him to hire
Michael Rosenbaum and get all those fans back too. You know he's he's gonna
do. That's a great that's a great Sigreif I do want to talk about,
like Luthor casting that, there's been lots of rumors both Scars Guard brothers
are apparently up for it. Tarzan and it the cloud It's not the name
of the clown Jaws, is not the name of the shark? Is it
the name of the cloudy Penny? Why isn't it? Yes? Yeah,
oh no. When you when you said, uh, the other Scars,
I thought of, uh, that's the same one from the Worman right,
that Viking movie that came out a couple of years ago where he looked like
a mountain of a man. Yeah, the Northman's really good, by the
way, Yeah, it's amazing. One of the Scars Guards is the Northman.
I don't know what he is. I just know it from God Zilo
versus Can and of course Tarzan. Yeah, isn't. So those two are
all I ever see is the Nicholas Holt. Yeah, okay, that's what
Nicholas Holt, who the poor guy. He tried it out for for the
Batman didn't get it. He tried out for Top Gun Maverick didn't get it.
He tried out for Superman apparently didn't get it. Um, Honestly,
that's fine because like, oh yeah, yeah in several films, and you're
like Ben Affleck was dear Nope, I'm like, first of all, that's
that's close to Ben affleck solo Batman movie we're ever gonna get and I've always
liked it, So that's fine, right, Justice, Hey, Michael Clarke,
Duncan was a Badasslex Luthor, let me tell you r to live somebody
Eldwhiz does. But you know it would be a great legs Uthor. Michael
Faspinder, you know, I'm I look at the cast of X Men.
I'm like, that's the one you're gonna pick to play likes Luthor. Right,
I'm fine with him not getting it, But I don't know. So
the Scars, Guards and Nicholas Holt are all rumored right now. Okay,
So despite Michael Rosa Vot's best efforts to get his friend Jade's Gunn to cast
him as Lex Luthor. I don't think it's gonna happen. He needs the
money. I mean, as we can tell from you know, talking about
Damn. Now, I will say no funny we were kind of joking about
earlier, but this is the night of the season finale of Thank God.
Not the series finale in a good way, yea, but the season finale
of Superman Lewis. And uh, Michael cutlets the current les Uther on that
show head of tweet and he said, Joseph the record on the next looks
Luthor, y'all are talking about the next next Looks Luthor. Enjoy Superman Lewis
season finale starts soon. Hashteck sorry not sorry, which which which I really
appreciate because you know, as I mentioned in our like when we were talking
earlier, when this news broke, it's like, that's great, but like,
couldn't they have waited another day to do this? This is this is
the third time that the movie to Division has tried to steal the shine of
the DC heroes on TV, which is another bad move by their by their
by their team. Uh, and it's other poor management and also just disrespectful,
right, Like why does this continue to happen? The Sea the season
finale, which you know, a couple of weeks ago could have been the
series finale of this TV show would have been would have been upstaged by the
fact that the like you know that you know, James Gunn and his new
movie Universe had casted their people. This The same thing happened on the debut
of The Flash um and then the same thing almost happened with like the Flashes
series finale when that ass movie Oh he's starring the same character came out around
the same time. It's like, what are you guys doing? They don't
know you like just like again like generally the left hand is not know what
the right hand is doing. Yeah, well, well the thing is like
Steve Stephen Mill's right look all right, Like there their continued disrespect of of
of anything that is not on the big screen is so apparent, and it's
like look y'all, like like all of y'all are doing the same stuff,
right, but like there's this there's this increase of of you know, want
to be prestige that is given towards the movies. And I get that movies
get they get bigger budgets, they make more money. I understand all that,
but like, you can't treat everybody else like crap, like they don't
matter, right, which is my one of my biggest problems with the Hollywood
machine in general, right, because it's actively discriminatory against so many different things
and only wants to perpet only wants to to pump up certain things. We
got to stop with this, you know, thinking that one thing is so
super great and then ignoring the fact that when other people do similar things that
is automatically not We can't be actively discriminatory against things. I hate that stuff
absolutely. By the way, what do you think of Michael Colits just like
suthor Lance? Sorry no I did, I've seen up to the scene where
he's at their porch yelling at Lois. That was a good seed. Yeah,
yeah, completely shifted gears. It's like, damn, that reminds that.
That reminded me of the Popeyes guys act six face red fe So words
could fetch this here. We told that story of podcast somewhere, look it
up. My favorite favorite memories with Lands is sitting in a Popeyes once and
then the other time the other time. Actually, I guarantee we told that
story because I knew we told that story in the Wizard Rold episode we were
driving back from Austin when we almost died in the Popeye Chicken Sandwich. Hype
was real, y'all. Think the hpe of the Flashers roll. I'll tell
you what. Some hype. The hype for the Popeye Chicken Sandwich that was
legit. They shut that Popeyes down early. No, something that I'm realizing
about, yah know, something that I'm realizing about. Like like, so,
like you know, you asked hey things about Lex Luthor. We're talking
about this earlier with the Flash. Um, so you know everyone knows I'm
just now getting into comics, like you know, and I'm only just reading
comics basically off what shows I'm a part of. So like when people are
like, oh, what do you about this Lex Luthor? I don't know
if I know how Lex Luthor is supposed to be. Every time I've seen
Lex Luthor, Ye're like, that's not how he asks the Flash, that's
how he really is Superman. That's not how it really is. Okay,
Batman doesn't kill so like, I don't know, how are you supposed to
be the answers the DCN mid universe An yeah, I mean yeah, so
like like like I have all seen them all in the cartoons, but every
live action in iteration, I've seen these characters. For some reason, they're
like, we gotta make it our own, and that's not really liked by
a lot of people. So the closest live action when we got is Rosenbaum.
Yeah. Well, and and like that's the Lex Luthor. I like
not because it's Michael Roseamama Smallville. I just enjoy that kind of character if
any of those guys because like you know, it's like, oh, you're
like a Scars guard or like Nicholas holds up for it. But those are
great actors. They should do great, but if they're not directed due,
well, then they're gonna suck. Jesse Eisenberg isn't a bad actor, but
they made him act silly. That's why I don't like them. So like
if you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean,
he's not as bad as he performed in that movie. You know what I'm
saying, He's kind of huh, he's kind of a one hit Wonder as
far as oh sorry, not one hit wonder. He's kind of like a
one pitch picture. He's like he's Michael Sarah. Yeah, remember he was
like, oh yeah, the Nichael Michael Sarah knockoff right now, he's you
know, yeah. I just I just I just want to see good,
definitive versions of these characters that I could just kind of get behind and not
not feel weird when I watch them. Like is like someone was telling me,
like a like somebody when I went and saw the Flash that early screening
someone was leaving and he was like, the Flash isn't even like that,
that is correct? And I was like, oh, you know, I
was was walking out and do it after when they thought about it, and
I was like, oh, you know, you know, and he's like,
the Flash isn't even like that. Like the Flash is like a smart,
like strong, like like you know, like guy, he's not some
doofist running around all the time. Like oh well, I've only ever seen
the Flash be insecure and unsure of himself because that's the only flash of Vertine.
I thought of the cartoons, well you need to watch the nineteen ninety
Flash KIF. Yeah, yeah, they should have to and in the head
maybe they I cannot believe. I cannot believe the c w let Ezra Miller
be in their flash but not let any of the c w K. This
is what I just talking about, just talking about about this stuff, because
it's all it all goes down to just I got his right back off.
I'm sorry, um, but let's let's supercasting, right, you know,
super low loser Michael Cutletz uh Like I said, I always on seros kind
of his son's and anarchy thing twenty Like, I lance, like, what'
you think before U that we came out with that episode, and he's like,
it's like a Selens of anarchy Lex. That's exactly what I said.
I always expect him to get on a motorcycle and drive off after me.
Yeah, Ron Perlman is a Lex luthor. That is what which is you
know, it's a different take. We'll see. The thing is we've seen
him in two episodes so far, and it's like a guy who's been in
prison for over fifteen years, and we'll see like he's talking about season four,
right, he's a series regular in season four yea. So if they
go back to Metropolis and he's like the Lex Luthor. If he shaves his
goatee because they're they're a shave to have a clean shaven, bald headed Lex
Luthor apparently, then we'll see. But there's there's a lot more to come
from this character, and we'll see. I mean, he's not the top
of my list, he's on my bottom of my list. He's fine service,
Will is getting the job done. I agree with that. There's so
many ways they could take Lex Luthor right. And then in the Superman legacy,
like I hope they just again look at the DCAU as the blueprint.
I want to see a guy who's in charge of LexCorp And loves Metropolis and
Superman shows up and then he can't handle the uh, the attention being shifted
away from him, like you know, John Shay and Lewis and Clark.
That was his deal. That was a great leg south. He had hair,
right, he lost his hair later got it back, you know.
But that's let's go with that approach, because that's an approach that we never
really you know, get to see. So but yeah, that's uh,
that's your Superman Special update on the on the casting and other other stray thoughts.
Who about the DC. You m ricocheting all around the man, going
everywhere, can't No one is safe. Nope, it's now that O eight
right now over here for me? You know what the thing is? Man
like, I'm expected to love this and people are gonna get mad at me
if I don't. And that's right, that's unfortunate, right, it's what
do you mean you're excited about super legacy again? It's not your fault.
We know whose fault it is, Zack Snyder sault right like, no,
see see other than that, you thought I was gonna go there, but
no, it's not his fault. Not taught, not entirely. God,
I want to be wrong. I want to kick ass. Well, the
thing is, Kevin, we do too. But the thing is I have
somebody callouses from from from putting up with all the badness. That's comfortable.
There's an old saying, yeah, exactly, there we are. So this
is this is the life of a DC fat joel m Are we going to
see it? Of course? Yep, no, they already. I have
had our minds changed before. You know. We're all like so anti the
Batman. The Batman's fantastic. Yeah, oh man, And I was happy
because I was giddy from day one. I was enjoyed it. I want
us all to enjoy something together, right, yes, yeah, and who
knows, maybe by the time legacy rolls around, I can go. I
could be in the theater with you guys. That's true. We'll see you
can be at our immediate midnight recording that we do with these things. Yeah,
I was unofficially, that's true. He didn't call Kevin on the way
over from the flash, and of course he liked it more than us.
But it's okay. He's he's learning. Yeah, I'll think, Oh,
man, where I do with my kids? Know? The worst thing you
do is take your kids a week before they gave him By Won't Get One
Free ticket? Yeah, in a week two he could have saved a hundred
dollars man. Yeah, no, it's expensive, a bunch of what what
an insane promotion in week two of your movie By Will Get One Free Anyway,
tried to tell y'all, I thought I was gonna be here because we're
gonna do some man special. You guys are gonna be there. So I'll
just say this here, all this talk over the years of Lance and I,
oh, our friendship's gonna end watching the Flash. I thought, I
really though I thought I was gonna go down this way. I was like,
man, I mean I don't love it, but it's okay, and
Lance hates it. We're gonna talk about it on Mike. I'm gonna have
like defend it. And I'd be like, well, you know, I
know you're upset about this, Boe about this not a problem. Let's say
the work. It's incredible. How bad that was? No? Well,
I mean I was like, yeah, so I'm met with you to flash,
and I remember thinking like I I was put in the group chat,
I am the problem. I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna love it.
And I went and saw it and then all it took was me, like
I started talking when you guys called me, I started talking out the story,
and within like a few minutes, I was like, oh no,
this is dumb. Well, you try to write stories and you try to
think logical like A to B and you where I'll never finish the story because
I'm too bisy worried about stupidity stuff. But yeah, no, it just
it bothered me so much. But yeah, hey, uh that that's that's
one least thing we gotta worry about. I got to sit here and try
to make you think the flash is good. One thing we get all that's
that's all so fared off about it because it's like, oh, finally the
same thing, and imagine that y'all sometimes we disagree and we can all still
be friends. Isn't that wild? Apparently crazy enough time on Twitter, Becausider
told me that's so there you go. There's your impromptu Superman special about the
casting announces for Superman Legacy and all kinds of straight shots friendly fire about DC
on film along the way. Those aren't straight shots. Those are raimed For
me, at least one shot won't kill lurra. Well, we'll be back
when they cast Lex live there, Jimmy Olson, Ferry White and the authority.
I mean, yeah, I guess we should. This will be a
thing. What well, you know what. We're gonna ride the train,
y'all. All right, We're gonna ride the Superman Legacy train all the way
to twenty twenty five. This is this is exciting. This is the fun
part. Though this reminds me of of crisis times, getting excited about hearing
news casting and like trying to figure out how they could method all up if
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