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It's Tuesday ninth, twenty twenty four. That was my best jen Ochilla impression.

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Because my name is Jeff Bagelor and
this is the Giant Bombcas. We

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are powered by NZXT and we've got
Jen and Dan Reichert on assignment in a

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city made famous by a single fictional
boxer. That's what they have. That's

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all they have. Their absence is
felt, but it is filled by a

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threesome of fine foul, starting with
the one and only Jeff Grubb. That

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was a Janet Choa impression. I
don't know, you know, my allergies

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have like really kicked in this morning, and I try to make it perverted

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enough to be a Jana Schoe of
impression. That's my big complaint there.

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We'll get to perversions in just a
little bit. You're doing well. I

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find it doing great. Yeah,
doing real well. Glad to be here,

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Glad to be back on the BombCast. Played out, played a video

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game for everybody after I didn't finish
putting together the news. So that's gonna

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be a fun section. It's gonna
be a good right time. Well,

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we'll see if we have time for
video games, but we're gonna talk to

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Nikki Grayson. Next, how are
you hello? I'm good. It's nice

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out. It's gonna be seventy five
today. The fact that it will be

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warmer in New Jersey brings me great
pain. It's warmer here too, and

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it sucks. Fine, we will
pivot to the last person on the program

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today, Turbo Sean. How are
you probably colder than the rest of y'all

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up here in Wisconsin? And let
me just say your jan needs some meta

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mucil good? Yeah? That really
you could feel everyone just sort of turning

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off their podcast, couldn't you feel
everyone? We'll fix the post. We'll

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fix it. I'll skip the guest
this week. Here's the thing, we

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already got him. We already got
the downloads, so it doesn't even matter

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play. We can't. We can't
see how far you get? That's right,

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that's R S S. Yeah.
I feel like it's it's evolved a

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little bit beyond that. But sure, Spotify, Spotify, listen, we

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got you. So look Spotify cops. We don't care what they do over

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there, nose cops. Look everyone, the sun, the moon. They

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fucked, okay, they banged,
and in their fuckery a shadow was cast,

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and that shadow gave birth to a
grubblet. Isn't that right, Jeff

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Grubb, That's how it works.
That's the story that I read every night

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before bed. That's right. Yeah, I was. That shadow was right

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on top of me. It got
it got up in my business, and

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it was incredible. It actually really
did blow my mind. I was expecting

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it to be very cool. I've
seen some like annular total eclipses where it's

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like there's still that ring of fire. Anular is not a perfect solar eclipse,

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right, So total, a total
eclipse is it blocks the whole thing.

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An annular solar eclipse is where it
doesn't quite like it is covering the

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Sun, but there's still that ring
of fire because it's like ninety eight percent,

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it's not fully covering that. And
that's when the moon's further away,

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so it looks smaller to us.
So this was a total eclipse, and

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it really did block it out,
and it got much darker than I was

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expecting. I could see Jupiter,
i could see Venus, and it was

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just it was mesmerizing. It was
three and a half minutes. It really

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did blow me away. I'm very
jealous. Eclipses are incredibly cool. There's

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something sort of like there's something a
little sort of like selfish about in eclipse.

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Do you know what I mean?
No, I don't, please tell

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me more. The way I look
at an eclipse is sort of just like

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right place, right time, Oh
for sure. So you're just like and

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you're just like, hey, like
we're here and it's only happening for us

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in this little one hundred and fifty
mile wide sort of roadway that went northeast

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up this country. And it's just
such a weird thing that these celestial bodies

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just sort of like cast shadows.
I mean, it's amazing if you think

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about it, Most moons on most
for the most of the other planets in

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our solar system wouldn't work this way
because it's the Moon is going to look

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much like much smaller compared to the
Sun ex actually further away, and our

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moon is like when it's at this
distance, is like four hundred times closer

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than the Sun, and it's four
hundred times bigger than it. So it's

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like they lined up perfectly. And
that is a you know, a lot

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of things are like that's a cosmic
accident. It's like, no, that's

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just the way life works. Eventually
it just kind of fills in all these

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gaps. This is one of those
cosmic accidents that's like we just lucked out,

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and that's why it works. That's
what I'm saying with this sort of

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cosmic look, it has to be
an accident, because how the fuck did

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Ohio get the best of Yeah,
the next one. The next one's in

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Iceland. The next one that's like
people can conceivably get check and after that

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two years from now is crossing over
Spain. And I'm like, so that

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that would so Iceland. It's the
same one we're talking about right now.

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Yeah, I got really into it. She was like we should Okay,

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you've seen the thing, so yeah, that makes sense. I was like

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thoroughly uninterested, like not giving shit
in the world. Then he posted that

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pick. I'm like, oh,
that probably was really cool in person.

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Yeah, I entered the pick is
close to it, but man, it

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really does. Yeah. I can't
imagine. We had about ninety percent wallpaper

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you download for your background of your
computer in nineteen ninety five, Like that's

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how cool it looked we had We
had about ninety percent. I you know,

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it got darker for sure, but
like you still you could mistake it

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for an overcast day. It wasn't
anything like really weird. It definitely got

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like a little cooler for sure.
Yeah, that's the most meshed up party.

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It's like, man, the sun
is important. It get real cold,

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turns out, what fucked go away? It get cold, is what

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I noticed about yesterday. But it
really was fascinating where you're just sort of

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like, so you know, around
three twenty, it was like where it

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was covering the most and we saw
we were able to see this guy with

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no clouds, and I was looking
through the glasses and I was like,

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wow, that's wild. And then
it got really overcast really fast. A

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big wave of clouds came in to
the point where the glasses couldn't see the

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sun anymore. Right, No,
but here's what was cool. Like again

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I did not stare at the sun, but like it was so cloudy that

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you sort of you were able to
kind of like see it in your periphery,

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right, you were able to see
a crescent of the sun in your

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periphery. Cool, which I thought
was like so fucking wild. Yeah,

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and it was really really a special
thing. But you're right, like that's

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when I talk about it being selfish, right, Like we are lucky that

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the moon is the size it is. Right, If it was a bigger

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moon it wouldn't or smaller moon it
would probably just be like a bull's eye,

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honest, a further way, yeah, right, or like whatever,

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all these amazing sort of things have
to line up for this to work out.

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It also feels pretty sick. Yeah, it also feels so primitive too,

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like in a way that is like
we is kind of sick, Like

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I everyone I knew was outside looking
at the big ball in the sky huh

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and like that own, like that's
so sick, Like it's it's awesome that

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we've we've developed technologies such that we
can look at it. Because we only

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got like fifty five percent here in
La just because it's a globe. Did

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you know that the Earth is round? That's not what this proved. This

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did not prove that. Okay,
so we only got some of it,

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but it still was like it was
fucking sick. I was like, it

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is nuts that, like, I
the perspective that I have on this event

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that is also happening at the same
time it's three thousand miles away, is

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so fundamentally different, but also still
the same thing. Like it's just really

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it's a really cool bonding experience from
like a humanity perspective. Yes, it

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was very well. Problems for a
men for a second. Nine, Yeah,

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it was your There was just a
lot of cheering when it happened,

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and like at the moment of what
totality is when it especially it was like

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when period like, oh my god, this morning, I was just watching

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tiktoks of like people cry like weeping
when and I was like, yeah,

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like fuck, yeah, actually yes, I don't know if I would cry,

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but look you react beautiful. It's
beautiful in your own way. Right.

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It made me a little emotional,
yeah, and made me feel like

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small and yet part of something and
it's like, oh my god, like

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I I'm standing here, that thing
has to be there, The Earth has

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to be here, the Sun has
to be there, and it's like all

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those other planets are also like in
perfect alignment to the sides of it.

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It just felt that cosmically special.
And then you could see how like you

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know, science scientists and like going
back for a very long time of being

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able to protict eclips, sure,
but that that like information was guarded by

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the by the elite, and they
would use that to keep people in line

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and be like, hey, if
you don't like come to the church or

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whatever, if you don't come to
the temple, I'm gonna blot out the

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sun. And that's why I got
a little mad at the eclipse. I

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got mad because well I saw the
eclipse. I saw the eclipse, and

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I was like, you know what, motherfuckers like two thousand years ago,

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this is really the source of all
of our problems, isn't it. This

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is certainly why people were able to
take advantage of each other, and just

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part of it because not be able
to explain it in any reasonable way and

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instead, uh, you know,
it came up with something insane to control

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people with. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. That smallness that you mentioned,

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Greb is like this ship would be
obviously would be happening if we were here

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or not. Right, So it's
like it is it is beautiful, yes,

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that we are here to experience it, but also being able to control

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the information about the thing that is
happening becomes so important because again, if

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the sun went away, it would
be crazy. Yeah, last eight minutes

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until the sun until the three servings
of Tuna in eight minutes I saw the

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documentary Sunshine. I know what happened
when we have to reboot the sun I

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just not go inside. And then
my cat was sleeping the whole time.

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So it's like, okay, so
some parts of nature respond to it.

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We're freaking out. I love that
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But a cat's just like just chills
and then he wanders always like sub

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dude, and for a second that
just wanders back. I think because the

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cat was just Garfield, is that
not? That's basically a cat's not going

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to do game this morning with the
Emma on Monday. So I love it.

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I don't know what you're talking about. What we didn't really get much

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like even in eighty percent, we
didn't get like ship changing eighty percent is

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cool to see, like when you
see it, right, you looked at

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it, right, did you not? No? Because I just didn't care.

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You don't go outside? I was
outside? Or did you are your

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classes? Are you well? Because
I've seen one before with the same amount

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of totality, and I was like, been there, done that. Yeah,

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I've seen before, So I was
like, yeah, whatever, I'm

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not gonna go out of my way
to stop on doing. Motherfucking Charles Barkley

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last night during the n cua A
Finals was basically calling everyone who looked at

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the eclipse a fucking loser. I
want to say that. Someone was like,

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oh, you see the eclipse,
Charles, and he's like, what

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am I fucking loser? I couldn't
believe. I was like, man,

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I really love his takes on hockey. He's a huget. He's an bigger

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hockey fan than he is basketball.
And he's like, eclipses are for fucking

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nerds. Where was I've touched the
boob before. I don't need to go.

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I don't need to go look at
the sun for it now. And

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Alf it was like wow, phoenix, okay, yeah yeah, but it

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was anyways anyways because for me,
you know, it's it's it was like

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a cloud passed over basically that that's
that's like the change that happened. It

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was alrighty, cloudy day, so
whatever. I did notice one weird thing

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that I never thought about because I
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know, like running some errands.
I look at the ground. I know,

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shadows looked weird. Yeah, yeah, I never thought to like especially

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yeah, it was. It's not
really notice about on like big ones like

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buildings and cars and stuff, but
like thin ones. I noticed it because

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I saw the shadow of a power
line and it looked like a streak.

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It was like like for the tech
heads in the room, you know,

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when like a DLSS or like some
other upscaling in video games like breaks down

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and there's like a rail behind Finnock
is rendered oddly. I was like,

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Oh, I'm seeing this like video
game thing in real life. That's flack.

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But I don't know, I guess
because it's like technically multiple light sources

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or something. I don't know exactly
how it works. But yeah, there's

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like I think the lights bending around
the moon a little bit more than maybe.

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Yeah, but whatever it was there
was like it wasn't even like even

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it was almost like I know,
some of had like a it's like stagger.

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It was really weird. But yeah, that that was That was a

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cool thing. I was like,
Oh, that's that's more interesting. Why

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the hell's going up? Yeah over
there? Yeah, I it like it

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started looking strange outside at about like
it started looking strange outside like around eighty

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percent, but it starts looking like
abnormal, like you don't see this any

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other time, Like, you're right, it's cloudy day up until about eighty

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percent. Then I like took the
glasses off, looked around at like ninety

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percent and it looked like an alien
planet. So that was pretty neat and

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and then but really it is all
about the totality. That moment is the

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thing I will be for sure yes
to get and actually seeing the seeing the

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like the little line of like the
you know, the the crescent, like

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it's smaller. Yeah, in real
time, that part was sick, even

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at fifty five, right, because
you could see the very tippy corners of

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them like getting like just a little
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those going and then having it like
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just looking around and be like,
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it just was. Yeah, Mike
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like a religious experience for him.
For sure it was legitimately, Yeah,

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like I'm sure we get it.
Yeah, I'm shot in the library like

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this drug that you have to travel
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STEP's legit talking about Iceland and dude, I'm not joking. We were talking

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about it last night, and I
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was like, can we go with
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like, yeah, we should,
Yeah, absolutely, we absolutely should because

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I want to go to Iceland number
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to be an eclipse there, then
like why not? Although it's going to

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be really crowded because of that,
but yeah, but that's that's why we're

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choosing Iceland in that Spain, because
all the European Spain. Yeah yeah,

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all that these coasters are going to
go to. Yeah, yeah, true,

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but it's way worse. Well,
it's fine. Uh. Mike is

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also suggesting we go to Disney World
in twenty years for the next US one,

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and I could not disagree more with
that suggestion, Like, you keep

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me alive, I'll go with you, all right, it'll be undern't be

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underwater in twenty years on a boat? Yeah, sure. Property only the

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tip of the Magic Kingdom seen from
what we're doing. That's it. Uh.

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Speaking of Minati, I just wanted
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It's a Jurassic Park thing. This
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with Jeff Garb, could you unpack
this? I just want to talk about

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this real quick. I know it's
a video game podcast, and you know

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how much I like to talk about
video games, but I just want to

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talk about this Jurassic things. Yeah, I just want to talk about this

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Jurassic Park thing really really quick.
Please. Yeah. Yeah, So,

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our friend Ben Hanson over at the
Minmax Show has an opinion that is factually

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incorrect. Yeah. I'm not sure
it's just being in the wrong. Yeah.

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I seem to lean into telling people
when they are just fucking incorrect.

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But I have the clip and it's
important to talk about. Like they were

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just talking about the flea circus that
he had that was his first attraction John

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Hammond, and he's like, you
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people bought into it. And she's
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So is this So is your sense
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like, and the power that you
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And then here you guys should hear
this. Let me turn it up.

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Oh yeah, by the power of
this place. But I made a mistake

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too. I didn't have enough respect
for that power. And it's out now

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this line all right, then Ben
goes on, I can't tell you I

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didn't watch this episode. I just
saw this clip. I want to go

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watch the episode. I was watching
a bunch of Instagram. Yeah, but

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yeah, I think he's like reading
an email. But he basically says he

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agrees that when she says it's out
now referring to a power, that power.

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He believes that they are all like, yes, they're referring to the

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metaphorical bit, but they are shifting
to talk about the electricity at the park.

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Why will fucking would do for body
listeners? Jeffer grabbed his head,

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Nikki is shaking their fists, Sean
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is how I feel. I'm so
glad for it. Is you also much.

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It's such a weird conclusion to draw, like, it's not weird when

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you're eight, it's weird when you're
good become an adult, and I just

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misunderstood, I tweeted back at it. I replied, I was like,

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look, I saw this movie when
I was like eleven or twelve for the

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first time, and even that didn't
occur to me at that time. But

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I could be a little charitable and
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you're just like a young dumb kid. You instantly think that you know,

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she's talking about electricity in that moment, but of course not, of course

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not, because the power is of
playing god. Right. Most people are

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trying to argue that she is.
She's doing a little fun play on words

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conre okay or maybe the right wrong. We've run multiple polls, no,

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not. Most people are saying overwhelming
everyone agrees with us. I haven't seen

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any poles. Is that really It's
like you can bind no and both and

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it's like maybe a quarter of the
vote. I don't. I don't think

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it's a double entendre because it would
be a veritable of sense. Right.

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But even so, it would be
nuts for her to try to force one.

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In that conversation specifically that she is
having with John Hammond, had been

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a joke in there like that that's
crazy, correct, Like imagine John Hammond

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was like, just for sure,
we're talking about what I did here,

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right, We're talking about what I
did, hear, not about the problem

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of like literal electricity and like all
the all the fences going down, right.

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She she would never do that,
just for like as a person,

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that character would not do that wouldn't
do it, and Steven Spielberg was because

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they are talking about a power of
nature that is being unleashed and in this

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thing you can't control, and that
is such a completely opposite idea of And

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we have electricity and we no longer
can use it. It has become incapacitated.

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One goes up, the other goes
down. You cannot actually make those

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puns work together, or that pun
work together. It's illegal. It's illegal

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to try and make them dog It
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Hollywood to write or make a movie
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trying that would just be an isolated
thought. It doesn't go anywhere. Yes,

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part of the plot of the movie
is, but like it doesn't even

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flip it out in the way that
they did. It's still almost impossible to

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it for it in the way that
Ben does. I don't understand it would

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be truly for it to be that
way. Lord Dern was acting way too

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serious in that moment. How did
you look? Again, the power had

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been out for quite some time.
Yes, this was not the thing at

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the table that they were that move. It's not happening. I just found

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that to be so amazing that we
had to touch on it because holy ship

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balls. Oh well we have to
touch on because Ben listens high. Ben,

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we need to tell you. Yeah, no, this was not just

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to take Ben down. I just
found it to be such a funny thing.

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It just so happened. It came
out of Ben's mouth. I would

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have let it go pretty quickly after
posting it, but then there were people

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that were like, I think Ben's
right, Well, but who were those

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people? Do you know? Do
you know? Damn it? Just so

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we should have a we should have
an employee review with cal Do you know

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how for for real, do you
know how wrong you have to be to

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get Austin to roll out of ye
like posting prison that he puts himself in

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being dumb right now? Do you
know how that is? Like Austin who?

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Loston Walker replies, I didn't know
time you get my man, Austin

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Walker to come out and be like, hey, listen, folks, we

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can't do this like you fucked up, like you just have fucked up.

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It's so true. And Dave Lang
honestly to be like ye talk about anything

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other than ship posting, says out
like free out like out of its cage.

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The power parentheses, the sublime might
of dinosaurs and the incredible hubuistic science

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which brought them out of time is
no longer contained. In fact, that

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containment was always an illusion, which
is how this line actually starts. Yeah,

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Austin, you forgot it? Like
yeah, Like, if you have

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to get him to turn his brain
on such that he does this to you,

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you've made a mistake. Okay,
to be fair, Ben replied to

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that, like, oh, this
isn't looking good that that damn Wait a

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second, I don't think I could
put that back. Do you know what

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Dan thinks about this? By the
way, I'm really no. It's too

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late. It's too late, like
the situation's compromised, Like we can't even

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contaminated. I think would admit so
we don't know, don't we don't know?

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I think I think he'd get it
right. I think I posted this

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to Twitter. I'm glad I had
this opportunity when I posted this Twitter.

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I said this is more bananas than
anything Dan Ryker has ever said. And

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I stand by that for one reason. For one reason, because when Dan

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says something insane or does something insane, it's because he's attempting something he has

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had zero interest in. And his
whole thing is if he has zero interest

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in it, it's like it's like
it doesn't exist him. And I get

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why that. Some people are like, no, that's crazy, how can

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you live your life that way?
But I've come to understand that for this,

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this is something been is active.
He's making a podcast about this.

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He's actually engaged. They just watched
the movie, they're talking about it,

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and he seems to deeply care about
it. To then have this conclusion,

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I'm like, but what movie were
you watching? But what's going on here?

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From understanding point, also, Dan
has a film degree. He would

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one hundred percent no the logistics behind
this line. So yeah, maybe,

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I think, but we'll give anybody
a film degree apparently. Though also in

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this podcast, Ben Hanson said he
wants to make a play about the botched

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reveal of Borderlands three. I have
to listen to this podcast see what's going

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on over there. I don't know. Somebody Judge and Chat said that what's

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happening? What does that mean?
Our men, our man Ben Hanson could

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kind of just do whatever he wants, making a third border Lens. They're

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making the Yeah, yeah, the
farming making one. I really enjoyed the

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photos you posted of Mike's brothers laughing
point of crying. I like got over

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to the house and Mike and his
friend were there, and I did the

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same thing with him, and I
like, I didn't get pictures because they

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were both laughing. But then their
brothers really just could not handle it and

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they were cracking. And to be
fair, both groups like Mike and his

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brother or Mike and his friend and
then both of his brothers. But I

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told both of them before I started
asking the question. They were like,

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they don't think it's about the electricity, but each time it was so great.

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So yeah, you can look at
like, uh, you know both

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sides of the coin here, right, Like sure it awoken Austin Walker from

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his deep slumber, but also now
we know how to get him out.

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Yeah right, you know, got
to see both sides of that coin.

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Is all all right, I've been
reminded this is a video game podcast,

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and that's what we're gonna do right
now, talk about games. That's the

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wrong button. Nailed it in one, all right. I'm just gonna get

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some of my bullshit out of the
way, if you don't mind. I

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played the Stellar Blade right on time. Yeah, I'm super curious about what

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your thoughts are about Stellar Blade?
Are you really that that makes me feel

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good? I think it's I think
it's fun. I think it's really cool.

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And you know what, it's sexy. These people are. It's hot.

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It's some hot things happening. I
don't know, like there's seems there's

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also a lot of like awful things
happening, and the and the the sort

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of paradox of like hyper violence and
also like hotness is interesting, you know

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where I'm in conversation in this video
game. Yeah, they they really just

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you know, I'm almost like stop
talking and worry about yourselves because there's a

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terrible ship happening. Ah. I
I really enjoy this sort like this game.

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I don't know what it is,
but it has a style that kind

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of like feels like there's so much
energy and and and time and and craft

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and thought put into like the stylistic
sort of like you know, everything has

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this almost like Grecian sculpturing to it, right the spaceships where they come in,

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and I love that sort of stuff, and then they kind of like

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throw a lot of it away,
you know, and I just want to.

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I'm curious to see, like,
is this part more part of this

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you know, world building, storytelling? Like, is that what we're gonna

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be doing here? I don't really
know. I don't think you can tell

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fully from the from the demo,
uh if we're I think it's a great

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looking game. I think, uh, you know, moment to moment action.

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I could see myself already getting a
little frustrated with the with the parry

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block button and how that plays with
the overall like combat. Yeah, I

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don't. I should never have to
hit a button to pick something up.

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I don't know what we're doing.
Okay, cool, Okay, Yeah,

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it's just so weird that that's what
they like sort of lead with. I

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don't. I don't know why,
but hey, it's that's pulling from the

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near side of things, specifically making
it feel RPG all right. Turboshaw on

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the apologist for Stellar Blade. He
keeps yelling at me for being two woke

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all the time. Sorry, but
I'm into it. I think it's I

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think it's one of those games where
like it is going to be like a

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turn the mind off game, right
where I don't have to think too hard

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and I'm just gonna have fun fighting
some really ugly looking things. I think,

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did you get to the boss?
I got to Yeah, so that

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I got to the boss. Okay, yeah, I thought that boss fight

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was pretty good in terms of like, okay, now the mechanics are all

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singing together, it makes sense,
like yeah, yeah, I think I'll

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be curious to see, like what
the final game is sort of on board,

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you like, I always feel like
demos, they do they the path

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to tutorial is a little the weird
thing. The weird thing here, apparently

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is this this demo is going to
enable you to pick up from where you

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left off the demo just okay,
that obvious in the beginning because of that,

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yes, yes, beginning. Yeah, uh yeah, I'm into it.

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I dig what it's doing, and
uh it is a sharp looking game,

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and I like, you know,
I like the world. I like,

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I just want to you know,
for me, I always need that

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to be like fleshed out in a
meaningful way. I need that to tell

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a story for me. But again, I'm not going to be hanging on

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that. I think I'm more in
tune with the sort of like stylistic and

407
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all of the combat. So we'll
see. Yeah, I'm surprised, but

408
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.920
I do like it. I'm still
in that place where I think this game

409
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.359
is going to be fun to play. I think that, and I do.

410
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.359
I also think that, Yeah,
there's a lot of sexiness in the

411
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.039
game, and there's no, you
know, nothing wrong with that. I

412
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.480
think there is a lack of sort
of depth or subtext to all that.

413
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.319
It's like it's a kind of just
on the screen. And if there isn't

414
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.720
any subtext, it is going to
be something that is resonance of these people

415
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.000
making this game, playing Near Automata
or playing some of these other games that

416
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.039
they are that they're pulling from,
pulling it like, hey, we want

417
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.119
to do the thing like that game, and you know, there's kind of

418
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.200
nothing wrong with that either. There
is room for that, especially for it,

419
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.559
because it's like any that's serious.
It's just a game trying to have

420
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.799
a good time. And I think
I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna be

421
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.440
able to have a good time with
it. I doubt this is gonna be

422
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.599
a game that I'm going to be
thinking about a lot when I'm done with

423
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.440
it. And again, nothing wrong
with that. That's not like some slam

424
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.559
against it, but I think that's
what it's going for. It certainly feels

425
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.079
like the style over the function for
sure, right, and like, hey,

426
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.920
that's okay, I'm not gonna lie. Like I'm thinking to myself,

427
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.680
I'm like, man, you gotta
be wearing like more armor or something like

428
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:30.880
we're seeing too much does have like
the gameplay ramifications like it apparently does make

429
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.480
your character more damageable, I suppo, I suppose, yeah, And then

430
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.400
the way to stop that is to
put on a sweater, and the sweater

431
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:44.079
just just to like just below her
nipples, so just like a real sweater.

432
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.000
Well, all the best sweaters,
so like that. Yeah, you

433
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.839
know, no complaints, all right, So that's that. I'm also doing

434
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:56.119
more Fortnite. I'll i myself in
now level fifteen because I played that games

435
00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:02.160
with my son and most of his
friends, and that is definitively not strange.

436
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:08.200
We've all moved on talking about that. Are you Battle Royale? Yeah?

437
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.480
So we're doing Battle Royale and then
one of the friends of the friend

438
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.640
is like, we have to do
this other, you know, two v

439
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:22.400
one game and it's basically this sort
of like sandboxy thing where everyone has like

440
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:29.640
their own corner and then it's just, you know, just like a seems

441
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.759
like it seems like, yeah,
it seems like some sort of like server

442
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.519
made I do of love that stuff. Blocks already back of our congratulations as

443
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.559
well. I've definitely, like you
know, walked back and I was like,

444
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.240
you, guys, battle Royal is
what we should be doing. I'm

445
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.480
an expert. Listen to me,
and they all sooner or later fall in

446
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.519
line. So we've been playing that. But Nikki, You're so right.

447
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.599
The difficulty has begun to ramp up, and the and the victory Royales are

448
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:07.400
now a little bit parky and like
it's funny because my kid's now having a

449
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.519
reckoning with like strategy. Yeah,
but what do you mean I'm positioning?

450
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:21.440
Yeah, I'm like, hey,
you gotta stop just running out in the

451
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.799
middle of nowhere, in the middle
of a wide open field blast and you're

452
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.519
what do you think is gonna happen? Bud? Yeah, what do you

453
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.319
think is gonna happen? Imagine you
did that on the soccer field or on

454
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.160
the You can't do that. Yeah, So, uh, you know,

455
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.400
sort of like teaching strategy, I
guess for sure. And I think the

456
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.640
thing that I think the thing that
Fortnite does really well. Is that the

457
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:44.880
penalty for making a mistake because there
is so many and I fro. I

458
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.079
think the balance of this has gotten
much better because for a while there were

459
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.720
items in the game that would like
kill you very quickly and it felt bad

460
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:57.240
to have happened to you. And
I still I wouldn't say it feels good

461
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.759
to get one shot or like lit
up immediately like that, but like now

462
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.640
it is so thoroughly like a you
fucked up. Therefore you are being punished

463
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.119
now for the mistake that you made, like here is here is why and

464
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:15.480
how that is happening, which I
think is sick. And like also sometimes

465
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.839
the person killing you is John Cena, so like you can't get too mad,

466
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.039
you know, like that's totally I'm
not mad, like Peter Griffin is

467
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.279
just like yeah, you know,
like whatever, you can't get mad at

468
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.799
that. So it's like it.
I think it as as an educational tool,

469
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.119
like legitimately and actually for like understanding
how to play other kinds of games

470
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.839
and the ways that you have to
think about putting yourself into situations, how

471
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.680
you get yourself out of situations,
the moment to moment in that game there's

472
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.880
so much you could be doing that. I think it is like as an

473
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.559
er game for folks, like and
as an er game for your kid,

474
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.559
like, can't pick them better?
I don't think. Yeah, Yeah,

475
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.359
it's it's been while to also see
how quickly he's just picked up all the

476
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.720
vernacular, Like you're just like all
commons, you know. He's like,

477
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.360
I hate common guns. I'm like, yeah, he's like, he's like

478
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.000
I only he's like, I only
run purples, maybe a green. Oh

479
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.360
that's my favorite gun. Check this
out. I'm just like, wow,

480
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.480
Yeah, you are moving at the
speed of light and I am just sort

481
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.800
of here to watch. It's been
fun. It's definitely been fun. Are

482
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.880
you still going back and forth ofteen
zero build and build or the Yeah?

483
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.880
I think so. I sometimes if
we will, it depends on who we're

484
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.760
jumping in with. If we do
it ourselves, we do build, but

485
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.880
he's got a buddy who likes to
play with no building. I prefer no

486
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.880
build too, are you? Yeah, you're not building? Are you?

487
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.320
Because I just don't want to do
that for you. They're like I don't

488
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.480
want to do it and I don't
want to deal with it. Yeah,

489
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:50.360
I feel like anyone older older than
actually seventeen years old doesn't can't build.

490
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:55.239
I don't think the brain is wired
that way. Yeah, yeah, a

491
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.199
little bit more there. It's always
trying to shoot someone after fucking castle sprout

492
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:07.079
up? Like what like I really
like my daughter's like I can't like walk

493
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:08.199
into a hotel room without them being
like, all right, and now we've

494
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.599
made a flort. I'm like,
it was thirty seconds. What'd you do?

495
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.760
Like, you just do this every
room you walk into and basically yes,

496
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.199
So like they want to be building
constantly. So a game that like

497
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.760
and then you and then you can
vote and you're like, I'm never gonna

498
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:29.400
build another thing. That's the Yeah, that's awesome. All right, Uh

499
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.159
grow up. Tell us about a
game that I've been really looking forward to,

500
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.800
Children of the Sun. Yeah.
So it's a game. I play

501
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.880
that demo and now it is out
today, I believe at the very least

502
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.079
this week. And it is a
sniper game. But all you can do

503
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:51.519
is this sniper is uh, basically
circle around a camp an encampment that has

504
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.559
your targets, and you can go
left or right and this reveals the targets

505
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.360
and you can mark them of course, to make it easier to find them.

506
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.559
You can also mark things like,
oh, there's there's a bird in

507
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.159
the air, you can mark them, or a fish in the water and

508
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.440
stuff like that, and they'll play
around with that later. You can mark

509
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.239
gas tanks on cars. And really
the whole thing about this game is you

510
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.960
are going to fire one bullet.
So what happens if there's like a dude

511
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.519
in the house and a dude outside
by the car and there's no way to

512
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.039
get them in straight line. Well, this game is not about that.

513
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.519
It is about shooting into one dude. And as soon as you hit that

514
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.840
target, the game stops, or
it basically slows down a lot and enables

515
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.159
you to turn the bullet and then
go into the next target, and then

516
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:30.920
turn the bullet and go into the
next target. They then begin layering on

517
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:36.679
It's yes, it feels a lot
like Wanted, but they add a lot

518
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.800
of stuff on top of that.
Where once you have the bullet fired and

519
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.840
it hits a target, yeah yeah, you can sure you can aim over

520
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.000
there at the other person. But
what if there's like a fence there,

521
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.760
Well, it's like you can actually
aim above that and then hit the left

522
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.519
trigger and this will slow down time
while you're in mid air, and then

523
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:57.320
you can adjust that the trajectory of
the of the bullet slightly in its flight.

524
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.280
Eventually you get some other stuff on
top of that as well. But

525
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.920
the core gameplay of like this puzzle
solving mechanic and finding ways to, you

526
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.800
know, make sure you can get
a bunch of headshots as quickly as possible

527
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.159
so you can get your score multiplier. And this is how I am playing

528
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.400
the game now, where I'm like, I'm looking at the leaderboard and I'm

529
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.039
like, oh, I want to
make sure I have a higher score than

530
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.880
Tam. Of course, so I'll
go back and I'll play it four or

531
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.639
five times, trying to maximize things. And there's situations, so okay,

532
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.719
if I fire at this one target, this will give me good positioning on

533
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.960
the rest and then I can go. I can go shoot another target that's

534
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.719
on the other side of the camp. That'll scare two of the other guys

535
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.880
and they'll start running towards the car
where someone is already sitting, and they

536
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.280
once they get near the car,
I'll shoot the gas, take on the

537
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.880
car, blow up the whole thing, kill all of them at once.

538
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.239
And I'll get huge bonus points.
And so figuring out how to manipulate manipulate

539
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:52.400
your environment to get these targets in
specific positions so you can do as much

540
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.079
damage as quickly as possible is the
whole game. And it's been really fun

541
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.360
so far. I'm super into what
this game is putting down. It's also

542
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.440
got a really cool style where like
there's mini games where your characters just like

543
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.760
cleaning their gun and it's like this
that you do like these slow interactions of

544
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.840
like you know, pulling out the
pistol or whatever, pulling out the chambers,

545
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.400
and then it turns into like this
weird old arcade game while your character's

546
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.039
still cleaning their gun, like this
is what's happening in their head, where

547
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.159
you're controlling like a bullet on a
two D plane. It's it's got a

548
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.880
lot of style. It doesn't get
in your face with story. There is

549
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.320
usually a little setup intro video for
most of the levels, but those gott

550
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.119
go by pretty fast and then you're
just in the action and it's like,

551
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.800
Okay, how can I figure this
out? And I'm yeah, like I

552
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.480
said, I'm very down with it
lately. Even Oh sorry, go ahead,

553
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:38.840
No, I was gonna say,
like, the first thing that you

554
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.679
uh, you know when you're describing
the first thing that pop in my head

555
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.239
was super hot. Yeah, it's
got super hot lives. Yes, it's

556
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:51.639
got super hig vibes. Yeah.
Absolutely, I think it's Yeah, you

557
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:52.920
know, they're not gonna play exactly
the same, but you could see how

558
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.840
these are like branching paths of similar
ideas into it. Sorry, Nick,

559
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.480
Oh, No, I was gonna
say, yeah, I've been thinking about

560
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.679
Neon White a lot over the course
of the last two weeks for some reason,

561
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.719
because I was like, damn,
remember that video game. You know

562
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.320
it was good. It should have
made more of that, But it sounds

563
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.639
like this kind of maybe scratches some
of that itch a little bit. Maybe

564
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.320
it definitely, I mean, it
definitely does in some ways because I am

565
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:22.159
leaderboard chasing. It's not about like
just raw action is like, Okay,

566
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.119
I tried something, it didn't work. How either how can I make that

567
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.360
work? Or I'm gonna have to
figure something else out, And it's a

568
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.239
little bit less like in Neon White. I'm like, go go go,

569
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.679
brain off, brain off, go
go go, And I love that that

570
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.639
is one hundred percent where I want
to be when I'm playing a game.

571
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.800
This game is a little bit more
like no, you go, you're gonna

572
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:40.960
you're gonna have to think about it. But then, at least at the

573
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.159
very least for me, it is
rewarding once you do figure out a really

574
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:46.719
cool method to get these characters to
behave in the way you want them to.

575
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.679
So it has what I need to
get out of a game like this.

576
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.880
And then to see the score at
the end of the kind of like

577
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:57.719
I think the little hump there for
me at the beginning was figuring out how

578
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.599
that scoring mechanic was working. And
then like I thought I did pretty good.

579
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.840
It's like, okay, well,
it's very important to keep the multiplayer

580
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
multiplier going. That means getting these
kills as quickly one one after the other

581
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.719
as possible while the meter's dropping down, so you can't like take a long

582
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.039
time to like aim your bullet.
You kind of have to whip it around.

583
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.079
Which actually I'm like, oh,
I should be playing on mouse,

584
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.639
because playing on the scene is fine
making it work. I should probably be

585
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.559
playing on mouse. I'm trying to
get the best score possible, and then

586
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:28.519
it's like the next most important thing
is getting multi kills or getting head shots

587
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.360
and as opposed to chess shots or
occasionally they'll have like glowing parts and that

588
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.880
enables enables you to get special bonus
abilities later on in the game, and

589
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.079
you could do more with that.
So yeah, it's it's a it's a

590
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:43.119
cool game, and it's it's got
a really cool vibe, and I think

591
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.159
it's doing enough to keep me like
attached to the leader board chasing, and

592
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.880
I think if you sprinkle on all
of those factors, that's the kind of

593
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.800
thing. It's like, Okay,
yeah, this is a solid, well

594
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.760
made game, well made game that
understand what understands what it needs to be

595
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.960
cool, very good. All right, I need to check that out and

596
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.400
we might be doing something with that
later, right, Yeah, we'll probably

597
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.199
get it on the site at some
point. Yeah, we'll do something excellent.

598
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.400
Uh, tell me someone about Yellow
Taxi goes room Grub. Did you

599
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.400
end up playing this? I did
play. I played a bunch of this,

600
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.039
I am did you? I played
the demo? So I wanted to

601
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.920
talk it over a bit with you? All right, So why don't you

602
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.920
start and then I'll kind of like
answer your questions if you have questions to

603
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.280
go beyond what's in the demo.
Okay, So Yellow Taxi Goes Room is

604
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.119
an interesting game. It's basically a
three D platformer, kind of a retro

605
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.519
style collectith On three D platformer.
But you're not playing as, you know,

606
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:40.239
a Mario Asonic, you know that's
our answerpomorphic just person walking around.

607
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.159
You're playing as this wind up toy
car and so you are doing You're playing

608
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:51.159
a platformer where you're constantly either driving
forward or going in reverse and then just

609
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.679
turning left and right. It's a
very interesting control scheme. And then it

610
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.920
just plays like you expect a three
D platform to play, like especially I'm

611
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.960
getting big like three D Sonic game
vibes from this in the way I would

612
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.440
have been set up, Like you
get a line of rings and Sonic to

613
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.119
sort of direct you this way,
you get a line of coins in this

614
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.800
game to tell you, hey,
go over there next. It's very wild

615
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.519
visually. They're going for like this
retro esthetic which pro tip turned on the

616
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.039
CRT filter and turned down your game
resolution too. Four ADP and it just

617
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.000
a retro game. It's very cool. How fun? Yeah, but you

618
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.280
get started getting other abilities. I
don't know how deep it goes in the

619
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.239
demo at least, I think you
only get a mid air dash, which

620
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.800
which is kind of cool because your
tax will just like pause in mid air,

621
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.559
spin around, and then dash forward, and that allows you to sort

622
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.840
of if you chain it together,
you can cancel that and they'll give you

623
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:50.920
a little hop and that's your jump
in the game, is canceling your dash.

624
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.880
There's a lot of really unique movement
options in this game that you wouldn't

625
00:42:53.880 --> 00:43:00.760
expect out of a three D platformer. My big thing is that it's very

626
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:06.400
visually busy once you start. Me. Yeah, I'm I'm looking at this

627
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.800
trailer and it is. It is
wild. There is a lot going on.

628
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.280
It is if I'm not mistaken,
it's I think it's Is it published

629
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.880
by anyone we know? No,
I think it's just like some Arcade and

630
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.280
those awesome guys. Is the publisher? Okay, Yeah, it's definitely.

631
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.639
It looks like the kind of game
you would like expect Evolver to publish.

632
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.119
It's one, you know, one
of those games in sort uh in terms

633
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:35.000
of the sense of humor and everything
that's going on there. But it's all,

634
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:37.360
yeah, it's a lot to take
in. It starts out very like

635
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.280
a very sonic, very like coastal
sort of area, and you're kind of

636
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.920
just like going from this major platform
so the next one collecting a little bit

637
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.039
stuff, but then it puts you
into this city where you are playing crazy

638
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.079
Taxi. Basically they you know,
do the joke there, but there's all

639
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:58.519
this shit happening around you. Is
so just absolutely bonkers. But there is

640
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.679
a demo, so I think people
should go check it out and see if

641
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.840
this type of humor and style is
for them, because I think it might

642
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:07.880
be a bit much for me.
I actually play the full game, but

643
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.800
I thought it was a really interesting
concept at least. Yeah, So I

644
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.159
have the full game and I've been
playing it, and I it took me

645
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:21.320
a minute to like understand all those
movement options that I did have, especially

646
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.760
because it's like there is no just
straight up jump. You're gonna have to

647
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.840
like maneuver your vehicle so it's in
certain parts of the level so you can

648
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.519
access other parts of the level,
and usually that's going to mean you're gonna

649
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.519
need a ramp at least as far
as I like at my skill level with

650
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.159
this game, And like I have
said, I like not jiving with it

651
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:38.559
immediately. At my skill level,
M like, okay, I could see

652
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.559
there's something over there. I could
see there's something over there. If I

653
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.719
can get to that ramp, I
can hit my midair dash and get over

654
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.000
there maybe, And if I can
hit the brake, I'll be able to

655
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.559
stop on that tiny little platform and
get the collectible that's up there. And

656
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.320
figuring that stuff out is pretty satisfying. But I find myself a lot of

657
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.440
times being like, oh, I
wish I had a jump I kind of

658
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.000
just wish I had a jump button
that would make this a little bit east

659
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.239
your spring tires or something like that, something like that. And now I

660
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.400
mean I do there are opportunities where
it's like, okay, I was able

661
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.559
to basically almost like drive up this
wall and get to this really rare collectible.

662
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.000
So that's up there, and that
felt really cool, and those moments

663
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.039
are neat. But like Sean said, the levels are so visually busy.

664
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.119
I'm not like picking out the cool
opportunities. It's just kind of all washing

665
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.719
over my eyes. I'm like,
Okay, I guess I got to get

666
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.639
all these coins and all these people. I guess I could talk to most

667
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.599
of these people, they're just kind
of saying random stuff. It feels a

668
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.599
little it feels like it kind of
needs an editor a little bit. It

669
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.199
just needs to be paired back here
or there and kind of like focus in

670
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.440
on the fun for the player and
at least that in the first couple levels

671
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.480
that I played, That's how I
felt. But it does. It's got

672
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.599
a real great style to it at
the very end. Definitely cool. All

673
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.719
right, and that is out now
go check it out. Yeah, another

674
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.199
game out today? Yep, Sean, I don't know if we ever gave

675
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.440
you a Pokemon corner again and now
whether you like they're not let alone a

676
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:08.159
room to hang out in with Pokemon. But what's going on? Okay?

677
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.960
So first of all, First of
all, so I realized what I was

678
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.519
doing timestamps for the last BombCast.
I never mentioned the name of the show

679
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.199
that I'm watching, which is kind
of important for a TV show, Like,

680
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.440
yes, it's Pokemon, but the
new one is a Pokemon Horizons.

681
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.800
But I want to sneak this in
here because I have a video game thing

682
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.440
to talk about. What that show
just keeps going places I don't expect,

683
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.679
Like I mentioned the whole like the
main character has some issues she's dealing with

684
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.760
and everything. But a few episodes
later, the cast of the show is

685
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.719
very eclectic and they're all like riding
around this airship is how they get around.

686
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.679
So it's a very like a whimsical
classic anime sort by they're going for

687
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:54.119
very colorful cast of characters. They're
all very different, different things going on

688
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.559
there. Even it's cool to see, I know a lot of shows are

689
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.320
doing it's cool to see fucking some
gender roles a little bit. You know,

690
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.280
they're like, yeah, you know
what, Dad can't be the one

691
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.559
that's good cooking clean, That's that's
cool everybody. So I like seeing that.

692
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:13.639
But like one of these examples is
this very nurse joy character, got

693
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.599
the pink hair and everything. She's
a doctor, and but her thing is

694
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.800
like she's always wearing like this punk
rock outfit. She's always wearing like leather

695
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.280
jackets and like goth dresses and stuff, you know, big vibes of like

696
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.000
the doctor from Persona five. And
it's like, what's going on with this

697
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:30.480
character? Why why is she like
that? And they address in the episode

698
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.079
where she's like, my whole family
is pokemon doctors. I was born into

699
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.079
this. I was forced to go
down this path. They put me at

700
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.679
a Pokemon center right out of school. I didn't want to be there,

701
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.599
so I ran away from home.
And I'm on this journey now because I

702
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.239
want to take care of while Pokemon. I've never had a choice in all

703
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.760
this, and I'm taking back my
life. I'm like, I'm sitting here

704
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:57.159
pajamas on with my cereal saturnymore.
I'm like, man, I expect Pokemon

705
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:02.880
had me crying in my cheerios over
existential Wait, so is the implication?

706
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.360
Sorry, and I'm so grateful for
you sharing this moment, but it does

707
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.920
raise a large question that I have. Are the nurse Joys and Officer Jenny's

708
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:21.480
a race of people? Basically,
Okay, good question. They're all family.

709
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.280
It's it's a very silly family.
They're all family in some way,

710
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.519
shape or form. That that's the
because you know, they had to explain,

711
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.480
well, why does the nurse in
Pokemon Round Blue always just look like

712
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.199
the same person. They're like,
oh, because they're all like cousins and

713
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.480
sisters and they all look like that, and they mean talk about video are

714
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:52.320
the true Are there male or gender
non conforming? Even the nurse Joy family.

715
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.079
You know, they reproduce sexually.
You have to assume, right,

716
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:04.239
you have to assume that's is much
scarier. So yeah, like like that

717
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.960
guy up in the north of where
the male was born in the woods.

718
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.599
Yeah, I think some dude in
a chancey are just like popping out all

719
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.039
these nurse joys or something like,
oh maybe that's what's in the egg.

720
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.519
Yeah, that's what's in the egg. Anyways, But to retie in the

721
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:29.960
video games, the European International Championships
for Pokemon happened over the weekend. Wherever

722
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.960
that whoever like major the best Pokemon
again? Did he win again? You're

723
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:42.079
an idiot, so whenever basically want
to know, Well, these national championships

724
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.079
happen, like you know, everyone
gets the itch. It's like, oh,

725
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.599
yeah, I want to play the
video game because whatever, well all

726
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:53.440
of us fans, all of us
nerds. Uh so I I want to

727
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:57.800
play Pokemon TCG Live, which I
kind of fell out of love with a

728
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.039
little bit there, but like the
virtual hard game video game right there,

729
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:06.239
because the person who won that was
using my deck, like the deck that

730
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:10.239
I run very unique. Yeah,
yeah, it's a good question. Yeah,

731
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:17.400
I get like huge these tournaments,
these tournaments pay ridiculous nowadays, Like

732
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.000
you can kill it how much?
Like ten grand? That's nuts to get

733
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.519
it last place or for first place? I first place, just like I

734
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.320
think that might be what regionals even
pay out now, like, and it's

735
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.159
even higher for like gnats and stuff. It's crazy how much they're paying out

736
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.679
nowadays. What's the most anyone's ever
won because you're yeah, that's whatever the

737
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:46.079
payout for worlds would be, which
I I don't know my head, I'm

738
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.519
just thinking like ten grand, it's
like all right, but like how what

739
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.159
would it cost to get you there? Like what are we dealing with?

740
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.480
That's the thing. Like if you
go to everyone, obviously it's not worth

741
00:50:54.480 --> 00:51:00.079
it. But if you're like keep
in mind, regionals happen like several times

742
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.239
a month, and it'll be like
there's one in Ohio, there's one in

743
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.920
Wisconsin, there's one in California.
They're all over a place. So if

744
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.559
you win your local regionals, it
basically costs you nothing to go and you

745
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.599
win. However many thousands it is, it's so that's so much they used

746
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:22.239
to pay nothing, yeah, nothing
or less. So now the prize pool

747
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.119
for twenty twenty four acumulative prize school
is a half a million dollars. If

748
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.400
you come in first at Worlds it's
fifty k. Second is thirty k,

749
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:37.639
Third and fourth get twenty k.
Fifth through eighth get fifteen thousand dollars.

750
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.360
That doesn't make any sense. Why
would fifth through eight whatever? Yeah?

751
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.519
Why not? Sure? Yeah?
Well because your participation trophies. Am I

752
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:51.000
right? Because you're wrong with the
way the bracket wokie. Those are all

753
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:55.079
these same woki month. If you
finish fifth through eighth, you've all finished

754
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.280
in the same place in the bracket. Yeah, that's like you you get

755
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.320
the elite you crushed at the same
time. But considering like back in my

756
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.199
day, it would be like you
could win a major championship and they're like,

757
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.159
cool, congrats, here's like two
booster boxes. See you next time.

758
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:15.679
Here's a hat when I won my
day. Huh, Jeff, I've

759
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.920
been playing the TCG competitively since two
thousand and four. Actually, back in

760
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.840
my day, when I won my
my regional and bi regional, I mean

761
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.679
it was at the one Toys r
US Babe Blade tournament. They gave me

762
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:36.320
a fifty dollars Toys r U S
gift card that I immediately used on more

763
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:44.079
bay Blades with that gift card I
bought. That was the first series of

764
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:49.400
like those smaller metal ones that they
released was at that time, and those

765
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:53.360
were fucking ringers. Dude. They
were so heavy, like it was impossible

766
00:52:53.760 --> 00:53:00.239
to get take take someone's ankle off. Baby. Yeah, yes, yeah,

767
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:01.880
my fucking bab blades. We should
get into bay Blades. I feel

768
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.639
like Janas said this before on the
website. We got to get into bay

769
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:09.719
Blades. We can have a baby
blaider. I think blades are I they're

770
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.559
cool. They're no longer like cools, is what he's about to say?

771
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:25.079
What the fuck? Fuck stun locked
me there. He's the only one who

772
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:29.480
can get away with that on this
gas. He said that there would be

773
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:37.039
competitive these traders have spikes on them. That'd be sick. No, I

774
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.880
feel like Mikey doesn't care about them
anymore. He's like, those are just

775
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:45.480
pops. I mean it's because they
are. They are stupid tops like,

776
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.960
but like he's just he's like,
we're done. It is as done.

777
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.079
It is as primitive as looking at
the sun during the eclipse. No,

778
00:53:52.199 --> 00:54:00.639
I think that maybe cooler. I
think that sure is maybe I mean are

779
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:04.199
kind of like, you know,
collecting any bands, like you know,

780
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:09.519
like shoes, because like shoes are
functional, like but they're just still their

781
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:15.039
shoes. Yeah. But like I'm
with you with like they're all not bespoke,

782
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.119
but they're all like the hell will
have their own unique design and like

783
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:21.280
that's kind of fun and you can
mix and match like all the three pieces,

784
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:22.920
Like I like that, and you
can let it rip, you can

785
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:29.159
let it yeah, hell yeah,
I want I want fifty dollars from Attack

786
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.000
of the Show once? Uh and
uh, hell yeah you're rich? What

787
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.840
what what was the show? Yeah? She said my hair was nice.

788
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.559
Oh hang on, I picked it
out. I picked it out before I

789
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:44.199
think she was being paid. You
did not win fifty dollars. And this

790
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.239
is us. This is a different
story, you know when Sean is your

791
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:53.039
fucking manager. A better memory and
it was like you want a pizza Hug

792
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:57.079
gift card? Yeah, I want
a pizza gift card for fifty dollars.

793
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:01.719
Very different. It all It all
fun turn intois at the end of the

794
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:08.320
day. So yes, it's just
very important. Yeah. Uh do you

795
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.519
I okay, how many times were
you on Attack of the Show? I

796
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.719
think just that one time. I
mean that was like as like a call

797
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:19.199
in, like a fame guess,
like a media hit. No, no,

798
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.639
no no. I was on the
Twitter wall a hand for you a

799
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.400
handful of times. That was my
whole That's the reason I have Twitter.

800
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:30.360
Wait what really the who? They
had a TV on the left side or

801
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.079
the stage right side of that set
that was a vertical television and it just

802
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:39.480
was tweets that like a producer was
looking at the hashtag and then would pull

803
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.599
the tweets up onto the thing and
then like you would watch the show and

804
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.320
then tweet, like do a live
tweet and then like that was That's why

805
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:51.119
I have Twitter, because I was
trying to get on the on the TV

806
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.119
board. That's fair. Yeah,
I want to say I did it three

807
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:58.920
times. You were on the program. I was on it. I was

808
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.119
part of like the talking head that
had refrigerator segments on attack of the show.

809
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:09.880
I missed those, Nikki you about
I'd talk about the iPhone, you

810
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:15.840
know, good that was cold,
but that was really refrigerators, I know,

811
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.280
uh huh uh No. I think
the first one I ever did was

812
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:29.320
talking about like Ghostbusters. I'm probably
clean shaven when we're this is like pre

813
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:34.920
twenty ten. I want to say. I remember having to stay so late

814
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.320
in the goddamn city because they were
on the West coast and I had to

815
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.400
go to like a satellite place around
Times Square and they were like, can

816
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:45.159
you just stay till like eleven o'clock
in the city and not go home and

817
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.800
just do And I was like,
sure, why not? Olivia munn The

818
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.679
only time I've done one of those
like satellite studio calling things was for Chinese

819
00:56:53.760 --> 00:57:00.159
State Media Come again cool. Chinese
State Media had like a cable channel was

820
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:06.360
kind of like their equivalent of BBC, like World Service. Yeah, they

821
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.639
had me on to talk about Fortnite
and PUBG. I think, yeah,

822
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:13.559
do you like Did you like doing
those things? Do you like talking head

823
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.320
stuff? It was weird. I
mean it was fine. I didn't like.

824
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:19.480
I wasn't like, oh, well, this is my future or anything,

825
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.719
but I was like, yeah,
this is fine. I'm not I

826
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.159
didn't like having to drive into the
city to do it. That sucked.

827
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:28.719
Yeah. I always grappled with the
idea of like, this is gonna do

828
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:35.079
better things for your career and then
simultaneously be like who fucking watches television?

829
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.280
Are? Yeah? It's like this
will be in front of the most eyeballs

830
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.760
anything you've ever done. Is also, none of those people care about the

831
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.639
figure talking about exactly they will.
You are being used to like help them

832
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:57.360
understand because they're geriatric and irrelevant.
Huh, I'm sorry, CNBC. Whatever,

833
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.400
Right, Well of the games we
got going on before we take a

834
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.039
potty break, did we We talked
about Content Warning. We played it on

835
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.360
DPF last week, we talked about
it on BCR. I don't know if

836
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.400
we want to talk ye any more
about it about a little bit more here

837
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:15.280
for the main show. Content Warning
was a lot of fun, real quick,

838
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:16.880
Sean Nikky, do you think back
of Our would get motion stick with

839
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:22.360
you? Yes, there's for the
exact same reason there's no crosshair, so

840
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.920
fuck me, really, I think
you would. I think it would fuck

841
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:30.639
you up. Wait, that's not
it's not. It's not universal like I

842
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.119
think it was just that was the
end of the game again the company.

843
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:40.079
But it's mostly I'm assuming yes it
will because it's this exact same style and

844
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:46.320
vibe of hen Bob and like I'm
motion and stuff, I'm willing to jump

845
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.559
into it. I'll take one for
the team, Thank you so much for

846
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:53.280
your service. You got it,
You got it. But yeah, Content

847
00:58:53.320 --> 00:59:01.000
Warning is a lethal company like which
is funny, and the goal is to

848
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:07.320
create a video that gets a lot
of views that is scary. You go

849
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.280
down in this bell, this diving
bell, into a place called the Old

850
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.559
World, which is just hell.
It's just hell. There's monsters down there.

851
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:24.079
There's here in Pittsburgh. There's monsters
down there. The refrigerator parry is

852
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.719
down there also, and he wants
to just take you anywhere. But I

853
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:34.320
think the monster design is really funny, Like it's all very silly. Like

854
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.239
the tone of the game I think
is far enough away from Lethal Company.

855
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:43.639
Legal Company is like the joke is
like, oh how dire this is right

856
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:49.400
right, and it plays with that. But Content Warning is like, oh

857
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.199
it is very bright and silly.
When you're above ground, you go downstairs,

858
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:57.320
it's all gray scale except for you
and the other like the player characters,

859
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.960
which I think is like such a
good bit because you can always tell

860
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:06.360
when a person is getting attacked,
like regard if you're doing a quick scan

861
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.880
left to right. And like I
was posting some of the videos that we

862
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:16.320
filmed to TikTok over the weekend,
and like it's the visual language in that

863
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.320
game is so strong because you can
so very much tell when a person is

864
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:25.519
being attacked. But yeah, you're
going down there, you're filming monsters and

865
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.320
ski spooky things. And then there's
items in the game that you can buy

866
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.239
that like modify it. So it's
like you can get a googball, which

867
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.519
just creates a ball of goo that
slows a monster down. Or you can

868
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:43.440
buy microphones, which work because it
has proximity audio, so if a person

869
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.840
has one of the reporter mics,
it can go really far away from the

870
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.760
camera but still speak into it and
be audible. There's a boom mic.

871
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.000
There's like a soundboard which is very
funny that has a bunch of like silly

872
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:57.159
preloaded sounds. There's a green screen
that you can go like cycle through what

873
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:02.199
feels like a million JPEGs to film
little pre and post role stuff. It's

874
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:07.239
really fun. It's silly, it's
like hearted. It feels like you can

875
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:13.400
get in and get out without like
really being the penalty. I think that

876
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.320
I felt when we would lose in
Lethal Company felt made me kind of feel

877
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.800
a little bad because I was like, oh, we did do all of

878
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.880
this work and we have these huge, like these huge pieces that I'm like,

879
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.280
oh, we have to we have
to get this out. We have

880
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.840
to get this out. But turning
it into the one camera that you have

881
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:34.239
to work with and it still lets
you save the video even if you don't

882
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:38.559
recover the camera, which is huge. I just think it's really smart.

883
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:45.079
It's a it's a smart it's a
smart iteration on this idea. And it's

884
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.599
only eight bucks if you haven't played
it. Yeah, I think I think

885
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:53.760
what really like since it for me
is the everything is set up to encourage

886
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:58.960
the players to start acting like YouTubers
very quickly. We kind of like didn't

887
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.760
miss a beat once we were what
was going on, ye, and then

888
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.960
everyone's like, and here's what this
looks like to me, And it was

889
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:08.159
like it was just everyone's shouting in
their stuff and shouting catchphrases or doing weird

890
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:13.960
intros or just having a different idea
for the video and being so excited by

891
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:15.320
I like, when we get back, we're gonna watch this video and I

892
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.039
bet it's gonna be funny. And
it always made us laugh. I don't

893
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.679
know I got of context post that
thing to YouTube. It's a real YouTube

894
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.320
video and obviously it's not gonna work
that way, but like if you were

895
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:28.239
watching it, everyone was having a
good time. Everyone's like very excited to

896
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.880
see those videos when we got back, and that made us like one of

897
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:31.960
like, okay, well we are
going to get the boom mic and do

898
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:36.480
stupid stuff and have the clapper going
across the screen the entire time. And

899
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:42.119
I really enjoyed myself. It was
fun to see the audience really be happy

900
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.760
to that game as well. And
I'm like, yeah, I'm like jam

901
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:45.559
Dan, once you guys get back, we should try it out back.

902
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:51.519
You can risk your your you know, your your barf bucket next to me.

903
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:54.880
It's fine, it's fine, just
turn usually, you know. Yeah,

904
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.320
yeah, technically, I mean,
look, the world is my barf

905
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:04.239
bucket. Yeah, you got hands. I do wonder if there's a mod

906
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.840
so we could do the same thing
we did with the Lethal Company and have

907
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.599
like, you know, eight nine
people. Yeah, I think I've seen

908
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:14.000
that too, So I have a
new theory about the motion sickness. I

909
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.480
think it's also mouse and keyboard.
I think mouse and keyboard do it more

910
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:24.199
than because it's faster than your body
would normally move. I'm gonna I'm gonna

911
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:37.559
act like that wasn't an insult.
It wasn't. I'm sorry, free look,

912
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:47.880
okay, I move quickly when I
need mostly when there are sharp blades

913
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:53.559
on my feet. About it,
I'm not fucking old, okay. Even

914
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:59.519
the people Fortnite with we're like,
who's the other guy? It was like,

915
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:01.800
oh no, it's my dad.
They're like, really, he's not

916
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:09.960
bad, one of the good ones. He's not. So he's okay.

917
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.400
I just feel like I'm stepping on
every rake in the fucking backyard right now.

918
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.199
All right? Uh yes, I
but okay. I think there's something

919
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.239
about like I don't know, mouse
and keyboards just like the way to get

920
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:24.880
like I always rock on, you
know, And I don't know what it

921
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.920
is, like varying factors right like
like, yeah, you're away from the

922
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.360
TV, you can have a different
like you know, field of view and

923
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.280
a different like speed at which you're
moving the camera and stuff like that.

924
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.679
All those things affect you differently.
Because when we were doing CS that the

925
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.800
latest CS update, I was good, I was good to go and I

926
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:45.199
was mousing keyboarding the ship out of
that. Uh So I don't know,

927
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:54.800
all right, thank you for the
comment. Nikki is trying. I was

928
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:59.599
just trying to say, do you
move a mouse because of mouse acceleration?

929
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:03.320
You're neck doesn't have neck acceleration.
It's not like it's not like it scales

930
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.960
up. And we all know I
have no neck. Okay, all right,

931
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:14.800
take us a break. I have
no nets him today seriously that I

932
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:16.679
know you didn't mean a Nikki,
but I have no neck. You've got

933
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.480
it. Everyone always says to me. You're just shoulders and chin and that's

934
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:30.119
it. You got a neck,
it's there. But this is normal perfect

935
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:36.159
neck in there somewhere that rules ship. All right? What are the games

936
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:41.480
we got before? Uh? I'll
hit a one two here. I'll just

937
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:45.320
follow up. After my soul searching
from last week. I did find the

938
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.239
video games I want to play right
now, Unicorn Overlord. I am still

939
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:54.440
playing that handheld mode, which means
that I am not very far because I

940
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.360
get like an hour in before Bad
before fall Asleep. It's a weird game

941
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:04.159
to not be on PC because it
combines tile based stuff with RTS elements,

942
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:09.000
and so frequently I'm like, I
kind of just want to click on the

943
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:14.719
thing instead of switch, have a
touch screen, you know, a touch

944
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:20.199
screen. But yeah, that's why
I said it. But I don't know.

945
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:25.599
I can't That's the thing I can't
imagine for a variety of reasons playing

946
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:30.280
this game on like PS five or
Xbox, like having to pause the action

947
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:35.519
cycle through your units with like the
D patters on or move that cursor around

948
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.079
with the analog stick. It feels
a bit clunky, and so they're early

949
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.559
on. There were some moments where
I would have to like figure out how

950
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.599
to was the quickest way to get
to this unit, cancel their movement,

951
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.480
and then send them to this other
place instead, and it just felt a

952
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:56.039
bit awkward. But I don't know. I learned it. I got over

953
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.880
that, and now I'm having fun. But it does feel very like old

954
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.760
school fire emblem, like more of
GGBA era fire emblem. Maybe to a

955
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:09.519
fault sometimes because there are things that
they label as side quest optional stuff.

956
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.800
I'm like, this is like a
tutorial for how to play a class of

957
01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.800
character that doesn't feel like it should
be optional content. But I get that

958
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:19.880
they want to give you the choice
if you want just like get straight into

959
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:24.719
the more story stuff. I don't
know, but I am a joyant it's

960
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:28.239
a fun tactics game. It's vanilla
ware, so obviously it's got style to

961
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:32.000
it, and it's great in handle
mode outside of like learning how they're assigning

962
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.480
all the bunsner I think, yes, Jeffrey Grub, do you think I

963
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:42.840
would enjoy this game? I feel
like it's a game you would once the

964
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.800
tactics click, you would be like
down, but would probably fall off of

965
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.719
it eventually. Okay, all right, there's nothing else because I have a

966
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:57.920
very anime with a not great story. The story is very paper think just

967
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:02.480
like yay, verily, we must
capture the kingdom. It's like so surface

968
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:09.199
level medieval stuff. Yeah, you
can skip stuff. So if you just

969
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:11.880
want to pack demos, I'll try
it. I'll try it. Try the

970
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:16.520
demo out. It's it's a weird. It's a very weird feeling tactic scheme,

971
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.640
but once you get in the flow, it's like you can actually like

972
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:21.279
start getting you know, it's pretty
snappy once you get the hang of.

973
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.439
In school. But the other game
I've been playing, like I mentioned,

974
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:29.000
I would move on to you'll hear
about like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. Yeah,

975
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:32.079
don't know about it. I've heard
this game that's a pretty good game.

976
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:38.000
Huh. Yes, it is like
I'm coming coming off a Person of

977
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.159
Three reload. I keep drawing comparisons
there for so many reasons, if nothing

978
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.119
else, they're all under the same
roof. But man, I had such

979
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.520
a blast. Like Sunday night,
I didn't even make progress in the story.

980
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:54.760
I was just wandering around. Do
they make it clear what city you're

981
01:08:54.800 --> 01:09:02.159
in or is it just like Hawaii. It's because they're like, very explicitly,

982
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.960
Yokohama, this is where you are. Yes, you get to America

983
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.279
and they're like, you're on ho
in Hawaii City. Yeah, I think

984
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.920
they show I love that. Yeah, yeah, I think they fictionalize it

985
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.960
so much that they maybe like don't
reference it too much at least. But

986
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.560
no, it's really fun. I
just uh I met Danny Trejo. That

987
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.800
whole scene was really awesome. Like
the acting in this game and the I

988
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:33.479
assume motion capture is like fantastic,
is really really well done. The music,

989
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:38.600
like, dang, the Yakis series
I've already I've always known to have

990
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.880
good music, especially some of the
older ones. There's some bops like Cuse's

991
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.239
theme and everything that a lot of
people know. But there's even just random

992
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.479
songs like there's this. I got
to a point in story where like a

993
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:53.159
band of the Barracudas who like kind
of don't know to not mess with EG

994
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:57.119
and the crew. They show up
and the Barracuda theme song kicks in and

995
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:01.840
it's like ding ding ding barracud I'm
just like jamming out with this random grunt

996
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:06.479
battle and this came a so much
style. I really have a fun time

997
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:11.600
with the one issue I'm kind of
having with it. I still think this

998
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.760
is the problem I had with Yacis
of seven. I still think that the

999
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:20.239
battle system can be a little too
analog for its own good. Where sometimes

1000
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.079
I will try to line something up
and like the arrow will point in a

1001
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:27.800
specific direction. I'm like, okay, so this will be knocked back into

1002
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.680
my teammate, or like it'll knock
them into a specific object or healing AoE

1003
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:36.319
stuff, Like they're in range right
and then they like saunter out of range.

1004
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:42.159
Sometimes things just don't quite line up, even when the game tells me

1005
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.479
that they should, and that's kind
of annoying. I get why they're doing

1006
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.359
it, because it's you know,
trying to pay homage to like the beat

1007
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.560
them up roots of the series,
but it can be a little frustrating.

1008
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:56.840
So that's something that it is more
frustrating early on, you get like as

1009
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.960
your characters build their social links between
one another, you will be able to

1010
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.560
do more and more with those characters, like helping each other out. That

1011
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:09.159
sort of mitigates that. But early
especially the like lining things up the area

1012
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:12.520
of effect healing things, that's something
you just kind of have to get used

1013
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:16.079
to. We're like, uh,
okay, I probably should just heal myself

1014
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.319
and try to get as close as
possible, because if I try to heal

1015
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:20.399
someone else, she's gonna run over
there, and unless I know they're all

1016
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:24.680
clumped together, I don't want to
take the risk of her running over and

1017
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:26.720
like kind of missing everybody. So
I want to make it a little bit

1018
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:30.079
more predictable. That is a little
bit frustrating, but also like on the

1019
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.560
flip side of that, I got
so good at, like when you would

1020
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:39.840
start group fights. Sometimes if you
roll up on the enemies and they're all

1021
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.920
clumped together, if you move fast
enough before they split up, I would

1022
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:47.720
be able to like throw a grenade
or fromage to like six people. And

1023
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:51.079
that was really fun because it felt
like I was like I was moving fast

1024
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:56.319
enough through the menus to beat them, like to beat the to beat them

1025
01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.840
the set up, which was really
nice, but yeah, it is.

1026
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.239
It's really good. I hope you
don't hit the wall that I hit.

1027
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:10.199
I am noticing, So this is
something I know. Lucy talked to DCM

1028
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:14.119
during the room in multiple this happens. Yeah, and Nikki you brought up

1029
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.359
on BCR the R day. But
it does feel a bit grinding in the

1030
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:23.479
sense that it feels like I'm always
a little under leveled and you could do

1031
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:25.520
you could do a lot to get
over leveled, but then the game will

1032
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.359
make sure once again you will be
under leveled again at some point, Like

1033
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.760
I'm learning the link which you should
be here and here, you should have

1034
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:34.720
this level in these this gear,
and that'll happen three four times throughout the

1035
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:36.760
game. Right. Yeah, So
I went I went through the you know,

1036
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:41.479
the factory area, and it's like, hey, you should be level

1037
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:45.600
thirteen and have two star equipment before
you go through here. I was like,

1038
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.359
all right, well, eachy's thirteen. The other guys are like twelve

1039
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.760
almost thirteen. I have like mostly
two star gear, like I should be

1040
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.760
good. Maybe it'll be a slight
challenge, like I'm used to turn bas

1041
01:12:55.880 --> 01:13:00.159
RPG's, I'll figure it out.
I was expecting a little bit of challenge

1042
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.399
and I got my ass handed Jimmy. I was like, I had to

1043
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:06.359
use all my like good healing items
and everything, and I came out of

1044
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:13.119
there with money and stuff and like
all of my resources gone. And so

1045
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.880
many RPGs they really thought about it. So many RPGs you just never use

1046
01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:21.479
all of your inventory. So I
guess maybe that's what they were thinking,

1047
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:25.720
is that they scale things in a
way where they do make you use all

1048
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.560
of your resources. They make you
think about you have X amount of money,

1049
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:31.319
you have x amount items that you've
picked up, you need you actually

1050
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.239
need to strategize before going into a
fight. You need to prioritize what to

1051
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:38.079
bring in and like figure out how
to spend these resources. And when I

1052
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:39.680
thought about that way, I'm like, Okay, yeah, I think it

1053
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.279
is just a challenge at least so
far. I am curious to like how

1054
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.279
much of a wall you get to. I will say this is one of

1055
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.560
many games that's reminded me this year
that if you don't play our a lot

1056
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:55.079
of RPGs, some people don't know. If he gives you a lot of

1057
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:59.920
safe slots, you use those sure, And that like that was that was

1058
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.520
something that I had to actively start
changing in the way that I was playing

1059
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:06.199
the game because I was like,
oh, it's just this is how that,

1060
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:09.159
this is how they want me to
do it, Like they want me

1061
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:13.920
to do this, like the thing
that I because I started, I picked

1062
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.880
it back up and have just been
literally like running around to like like familiar

1063
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:23.720
refamiliarize myself. M I. The
thing that I will say about this game

1064
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.640
is that I don't feel stronger than
I did when I started. It is

1065
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:33.720
that just how these ones are like
these I'm at the end, like I'm

1066
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:38.920
I'm I'm basically at the end,
and like I don't know if it's like

1067
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:45.920
maybe I haven't been as experimental with
the classes like yet with the job,

1068
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.399
like I have swapped them around,
like everyone is doing something different and I've

1069
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:56.159
tried and you're you're taking those skills
them, but like it doesn't feel like

1070
01:14:56.319 --> 01:15:00.800
it just feels like I'm Pokemon has
the same issue for me, where it

1071
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.119
feels like you get the guy and
then you like come out with the move

1072
01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:06.000
set and then you use the same
moves and then you're like, okay,

1073
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.600
well here the moves like yeah,
So I think the the more power I

1074
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.720
felt came from the drink links that
would make all my characters like they would

1075
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.119
Okay, hey, I'm going to
we can like team up and do an

1076
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:24.000
attack and someone else. Once they're
down, we'll do we'll do a follow

1077
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.680
up attack, and and all those
other stuff will kind of like latch onto

1078
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.039
one another and make every attack that
one that much more powerful. And I

1079
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:36.600
don't know, I thought some of
like the higher skilled job class abilities felt

1080
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:42.000
felt more powerful. But yeah,
overall, anytime you're like just fighting characters,

1081
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:45.479
if they are appropriately leveled to you, yeah, you're gonna feel about

1082
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.680
the same throughout the entire game.
So yeah, I think games feel I

1083
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:53.279
think I think I think the positional
stuff is almost misleading because this is very

1084
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:57.199
much a traditional JRPG, and I
mean to the point that you know,

1085
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:00.840
each's obsessed with dragon quests and talks
about it all the time, and uh,

1086
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:02.960
you know, Yu is seven,
So I think that's just that's what

1087
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:08.079
they're going for. And traditional t
RPGs usually are Okay, you're you're a

1088
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.640
little bit stronger. Now you got
a better version of this move. But

1089
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.159
then eventually the enemies are going to
like start to scale up to where you

1090
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.680
are, and that's sort of the
give and take the flow of this type

1091
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.359
of game. So yeah, yeah, I think Rub's right. A lot

1092
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:26.560
of where your power comes from is
in finding those new ways to play through

1093
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:30.720
the stuff you'll lock with, drink
links and whatnot. Did you all use

1094
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:36.880
the football job? Yes, that's
a good one. That's a good twenty

1095
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:43.000
hours into this game and I'm still
learning. Still it's still tutorialize. Are

1096
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.520
you in Hawaii? Also? Apparently, I'm sorry, folks said that they

1097
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:53.319
mentioned that it's all Honolulu a lot, so yeah, like Hawai City.

1098
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:56.760
Yeah, they might have mentioned that
like at the start and just having to

1099
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.119
say because yeah, it is always
just Hawaii. Yeah, I am where

1100
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.439
did I leave off? I left
off, uh searching for a Khane.

1101
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:14.000
I'm like finding out where she works. Okay, very good, folks,

1102
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:19.520
More Giant BombCast After this, we'll
get into the news. See what kind

1103
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:25.279
of news Grub has made and curated
for the show. All this and more

1104
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:32.159
after the break, be right back. Welcome back to the Giant BombCast.

1105
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:41.000
We're having fun here and who cares? Who cares if my neighbors decided to

1106
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:45.520
mow their lawn right as we're recording
the next part of the podcast, ship

1107
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:48.680
Man, I don't care. You
know, it's their prerogative. It's their

1108
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:56.600
lawn. They can do whatever they
want. Maybe, I guess, so

1109
01:17:57.079 --> 01:18:02.199
we'll share the street. We've got
news, We've got Jeff Grubb. Let's

1110
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:11.880
do this all right. First story, everybody, Uh. On the return

1111
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.600
from wrestle Mania, Jan Ochoa's flight
has been diverted because his plane is full

1112
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:27.000
of ship. From the Twitter account
of Jan Jerome Ochoa, well, flight

1113
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:31.239
home is getting diverted because it is
literally full of poop emoji. Oh maybe

1114
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:34.239
it's just full of the poop emoji. Listen, you're right, That's why

1115
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:39.720
I said it. I wanted this
is very this is very important. We

1116
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:43.760
have someone on the ground. Follow
tweet here from one Mike Minati. My

1117
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:49.960
bad. Oh again, get it
your source of everyone's problems. We know

1118
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:59.840
you've never heard of this. Did
he get into the air? I mean

1119
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:09.439
I think so well, so much
poop came out fly above toilet from South

1120
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.840
Market. They can't they can't,
just like, uh, you know,

1121
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.960
this is my Dan Reyker question.
They can't just like open up a hatch

1122
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:21.520
and like us, it must be
that the toilet has become a biohazard and

1123
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.520
they don't have the ability to clean, Like legitimately, they don't have the

1124
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.880
ability to clean the toilet such that
another person can use it. Right,

1125
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.359
But what I'm saying is, like, certainly there's some sort of like exit

1126
01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:44.920
hatch the Yeah, Like, can't
they just mathematically determine where the payload would

1127
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:51.399
land over some sort of Yeah,
that's just gonna happen. I mean,

1128
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:58.279
there's a reason we call them the
fly literally want to dump our ship on

1129
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:01.680
that. The three tabs I hope
and have opened that aren't the news?

1130
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:06.880
Are my taxes? Jen talking about? This is ship, plane and the

1131
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:12.279
script to Jurassic Parts. So that's
that's my life. It's cool. That's

1132
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:16.359
actually cool. That's a trifecta achieved. Listen, I did shape my life

1133
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.720
so it would be exactly like this. So I'm glad out here. Absolutely,

1134
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.520
don't do your taxes whatever they're already
done. I just got to pay

1135
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.960
him now. I'm a bit all
right. Getting to the news. There's

1136
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:32.800
a rumored new socom game that could
be in the works. Another entry in

1137
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:38.039
the Socom franchise might be in the
works. Basically, someone spotted on a

1138
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:41.800
late actors resume. I believe the
actor is David Veitch, who passed away

1139
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:44.239
a couple of years ago. But
they looked on his resume, I suppose

1140
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.319
on LinkedIn and saw a mention of
a game called so Coom one one one.

1141
01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:51.399
People are like, well, maybe
he just put on him or his

1142
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:56.399
representatives put a game on there that
he'd been in previously, and they just

1143
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.479
didn't know what it was called.
They went back looked at all the credits

1144
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.239
for all the pre games. They
didn't see David Veach mentioned in any of

1145
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:04.720
them, So thinking, okay,
maybe he did some work, which apparently

1146
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:09.920
this work is voice acting and performance
capture, and maybe it's for like a

1147
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:14.279
so Caom show or something or something
along those lines. People have not been

1148
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:16.720
able to track it down. So
based on this, people are assuming we

1149
01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:20.880
are getting a new Socom. My
opinion is that's pretty weak. It's probably

1150
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:25.119
not happening at least not based on
this. Yeah, how do you all

1151
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:30.079
feel about so Calm? And you
need to touch Grass is what I think.

1152
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.479
Wow, Jan is rolling in his
race. Jan biggest Socom fan I

1153
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.760
know. I don't even know if
he likes Socom as much. He likes

1154
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:43.600
the idea of Socom really, I
like, so, I like Socom as

1155
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.279
an idea from the nineties, and
like that's it? Is it even?

1156
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:58.319
Is it from the two anything?
Yeah? No, My entire Socom experience

1157
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:02.039
is that on in the eighth grade, we did a trip up the five

1158
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:06.439
uh to Sacramento, and then we
came back down and half of the bus,

1159
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:11.520
the boys, was playing so Calm
on the plate whatever. So Calm

1160
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:15.279
was on the yeah, and then
the back half, which was the girls

1161
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.199
in the gaze And I just was
in the back there, not really thinking

1162
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:28.720
about what that meant. But I
was back there were playing Mario say,

1163
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.920
I would yeah, I would have
been. You think it makes make you

1164
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:43.319
think do some digging, but yeah, like who cares? Yeah, Like,

1165
01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:46.319
I don't think it's a story,
right, whether or not this is

1166
01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:51.960
happening. Do you all think that
so Calm has the juice the days No,

1167
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:58.680
Siphon Fielder has more juice, I
would say, so, like do

1168
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.960
that? Yeah, And it's not
like, you know, have to disturb

1169
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:08.560
the grave of some actor in the
process. That is the most nuts to

1170
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.479
be is like this is what this
rumor is based on. Yes, and

1171
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.600
it's also why are they imagine being
so down bad for Socom that you're like,

1172
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:20.479
let me think of a guy who
could be in so calm and then

1173
01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:26.720
you find this dude who is dead
and then you're like, it's just nuts.

1174
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:31.920
What I'm trying to think of what
a new Socom would even accomplish for

1175
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:36.479
Sony at this point because easy is
it a PlayStation five and maybe PC game

1176
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:41.880
and you have to go up against
Fortnite that's everywhere or whatever, or Pug

1177
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.840
that's everywhere. Call of Duty that's
everywhere. Well that that's my big thing

1178
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.079
is like so many people who don't
know what's so comms a video game series

1179
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:50.880
are gonna be like, oh,
well this is just a Call of Duty

1180
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:54.760
knockoff, right, and they're not
gonna be under twenty five would just be

1181
01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:59.439
like huh yeah. Like SOCOM was
important back in the day because of what

1182
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:03.159
it did for multiplayer gaming as respective
platforms. On PS two it was,

1183
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:08.039
you know, your doorway to online
shooters just with the you know, with

1184
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:11.319
the headsets, you could talk to
people. That's where people first communicate a

1185
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.720
lot of people's first communication with other
people online with voice wasn't so calm?

1186
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:17.720
Yeah exactly, or the PSP version
like Nikki mentioned, you know, like

1187
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.960
kids were played on the bus and
like older people would I think love them

1188
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.840
head online? You would do that. But nowadays it just feels like there's

1189
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:30.960
no reason for it to exist outside
of some people have asked for it,

1190
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:36.159
but I don't know, like you
Ghost Recon Advanced war Fighter three, Yeah,

1191
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:48.560
that's what I want. Three three
called gros Groks fcks Dash three.

1192
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:57.479
Would you prefer them to make another
SoCon game or another kills It? Oh?

1193
01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:00.920
I would kill them Personally, I
would definitely prefer a SO com because,

1194
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.439
like I know, what I just
said makes it seem like nobody cares,

1195
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:09.920
but so actually has a unique place
because it's tactical. Kill Zone four

1196
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:15.600
is the one I'm actually going to
get into. Yeah at this point,

1197
01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:21.000
the one. This is the one. Uh well anyway. Shout out to

1198
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:30.960
Reddit user keck and keck and Cock
for touch Grass and Cock. Okay,

1199
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:35.000
yeah, all right, Well moving
on. Two upcoming PlayStation Plus classic titles

1200
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:39.039
have seemingly been revealed a new trop
this. I'm bringing this up because I

1201
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:43.119
think it's weird. Uh. A
new trophy list for Medieval has been spotted,

1202
01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:46.119
suggesting that PS one title could be
soon made available on PlayStation Plus.

1203
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:50.159
And that is like the p S
one version of Medieval, not the remake

1204
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:56.640
that game. Yeah, they just
right, and then's so that but they're

1205
01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:00.000
not doing that one PlayStation Plus Classics, which they would do it for Classics,

1206
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.800
but and then the other well the
other gay doesmatics. That's the one

1207
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:09.079
I want to talk about. Yeah, yeah, why why why would you

1208
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.720
do I don't know, why would
you do that? Yeah, it's a

1209
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:15.680
little from a perspective of good to
keep this game play it like the original

1210
01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:18.479
version of this game playable on more
things, great, awesome. I do

1211
01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:20.239
remember the other game, this one. I'm like, yeah that, I'll

1212
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:24.840
play this Rebel Assault to the Hidden
Empire. That one's like the very FMV

1213
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.520
one. It's got some fun stuff
in there. But how do you all

1214
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:32.239
feel about the subscription services that you
are or are not subscribed to these days?

1215
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:36.960
Including PlayStation Plus, Xbox Game Pass, things like that. Do you

1216
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.279
guys have all of them still?
Because I I just was on the PlayStation

1217
01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:43.800
five the other day and I was
about to like play a game. Oh

1218
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.960
yeah, it's a PS Plus game
I got. I ended my subscription and

1219
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:48.760
I'm like, oh, I'm just
gonna turn this off rather than resubscribe.

1220
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:53.680
So you so when you turn off
PlayStation Plus, don't you lose You lose

1221
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:57.239
everything. You lose access to the
games that you got through the PlayStation Plus

1222
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:00.880
subscription previously, and then you could
lose access to like their library of games.

1223
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:03.840
But when you subscribe, you get
them back. Yes, that's for

1224
01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:06.960
you, Yes you do, Okay, because I remember there wasn't there like

1225
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:14.399
a time where there was a really
caveat where like not it wasn't terrible.

1226
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:16.760
It's just like if you're not subscribed, then you can't like claim them,

1227
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:19.479
and then if they're gone, you
can't go back in time and claim them.

1228
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:26.520
Okay, okay, that's what it
was weird compared to games with gold

1229
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.520
over on Xbox, because on Xbox
you just had those games permanently in your

1230
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.479
library. When you write it's like
this, yeah, this is actual like

1231
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.279
subscriptions as we know them nowadays,
where you need to claim them in the

1232
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:42.920
period and then you only have it
when you are subscribed. And but then

1233
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:45.680
on top of that, then there's
the library of games where you don't have

1234
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.239
to claim them. It's just like
the Library games, right and confusing.

1235
01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:59.119
I only I have Game Pass Ultimate
until the sun explodes. I think I

1236
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:04.960
literally have Games Insultsman until like twenty
twenty twenty six, because I like they

1237
01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:09.239
remember they were doing that thing where
you can upgrade the dollar a dollar a

1238
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:13.800
dollar yea. So I went to
Costco and I bought two years or three

1239
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:18.000
years of Mark of Gold, and
then I canceled my game pass put the

1240
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:21.399
live account, and then I so
I'm good on game passes with twenty twenty

1241
01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:27.039
six. Thank you ten cent for
paying for that. And then I also

1242
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:31.880
have the Nintendo Family Plan, which
I don't I don't really know why I

1243
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:35.600
have that because I super don't use
any of that. But there's like eight

1244
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:40.159
people in that like under or not
right, but there's like a handful of

1245
01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.000
people under that umbrella, so like
I feel obligated to keep paying a couple

1246
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:46.359
of bucks so nothing you go online
with Mario card. It's so funny that

1247
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.840
you think I have the gumption to
ask these people who are under the umbrella

1248
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:54.720
to give me the money. You
know, you're the one, You're the

1249
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:59.720
hood of the account. Okay,
I go, yeah, I'm not gonna

1250
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:04.119
hunt down out for eight dollars,
like come right, and like is it

1251
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:10.359
a lot of money? Yes,
but like I can't. I can't be

1252
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:13.239
fucked to d that. And then
I don't have PlayStation Plus. Like if

1253
01:29:13.239 --> 01:29:15.880
someone is like I want to play, like if we play Hell Divers this

1254
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:19.800
week, like I'll have to re
up on PlayStation Plus for the month and

1255
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:26.119
then I'll cancel it again. I
just like don't have subscriptions really in general,

1256
01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:30.319
because I just buy them as necessary, like it which God got to

1257
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.840
download all my PS plus saves because
hey, fun fact, you can't access

1258
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:36.479
your cloud saves unless you are currently
subscribed to PS plus. Yeah, dumb,

1259
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:42.279
that's so slimy. Yeah, but
I mean I believe Nintendo does it

1260
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:44.920
too. I think it's dumb there
for the record, But yeah, I

1261
01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:47.439
don't subscribe to PS plus because I
just usually don't play on console. I'm

1262
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:51.319
not subscribed to game Pass because I
subscribe when there's a game I want to

1263
01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:54.319
play on game Pass. You know, I just you know, drop the

1264
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:58.439
ten bucks whatever it's cheaper than buying
the game. And then I mean really

1265
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.279
anything else, even in I kind
of just don't subscribe too much. Occasionally

1266
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:05.359
I'll do some bundle if it's like
this and this, and we'll give you

1267
01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:10.159
a discount. It's like three months
for five bucks or something. I'll try

1268
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:13.920
that. Yeah. Usually I don't
know. I just it is nothing I

1269
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:19.560
need really meshes with that, I
would argue most of these subscription services.

1270
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:27.439
Maybe I think Xbox righted the ship
in a way where like they successfully elevated

1271
01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:35.479
the idea of game pass as this
sort of like Dane date thing right where

1272
01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:39.520
they were able to like equate it
to that sort of thing. So I

1273
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:45.000
think they probably won the messaging battle, whereas the PlayStation experience is mostly in

1274
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.279
limbo, right, Well, the
place experience is you get that when you

1275
01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:53.119
need to play online, and yeah, that's there. And then and then

1276
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:56.199
like you know, ten percent of
those people are like looking at the deal

1277
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:57.880
like all right, I'm going to
get it. I'm going to get it

1278
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:00.640
so I can play online with my
friends. And then they look at the

1279
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.359
tiers like if I pay you a
little bit extra, I get some extra

1280
01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:05.000
shit. Yeah, I'll do that. I think it's like it's just a

1281
01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:08.960
step up for the people they've already
converted for the same reason that they've been

1282
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.760
converting people since the beginning, which
is sure, I want to play Call

1283
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:16.720
of Duty and that's it. So
well, you don't even need PS plus

1284
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:23.119
for free to play games anymore,
right for you? Right in the traditional

1285
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.760
call Duty? Yeah right right?
Yeah, so like war Zone and then

1286
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:30.520
like fort nine and whatnot, So
most people nowadays probably actually aren't paying for

1287
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:35.159
PS plus on PlayStation. Yeah.
I mean I think I think there's been

1288
01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:40.560
some numbers out there. It's like
kind of pretty steady around. I want

1289
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:45.199
to say, forty million ish,
okay, just big numbers, that's so

1290
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:49.960
a lotular. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Remember I was I was

1291
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:54.560
trying to explain if someone remember when
PlayStation Network was down for like a month

1292
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:58.000
and a half. Yeah, yes, I was trying to explain to a

1293
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.840
person who is like he was like
so thoroughly unplugged. Thank you for your

1294
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:05.399
service, by the way, Greb, thank you. I was trying to

1295
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:10.319
explain it to someone, and I
like, I still felt like I was

1296
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:16.079
down playing how crazy that was.
It was so crazy? Must the nuts

1297
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:20.640
just nuts? Like they just couldn't
it was off. Yep, they got

1298
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:25.800
hacked so bad they unplugged everything.
Yeah, and that's that was their solution.

1299
01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:30.239
So I remember learning about that like
the following year, because I played

1300
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:33.720
on three sixty at that point and
I was like, fucking oh, this

1301
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:38.079
didn't affect me. That's why I
didn't hear about it. Okay, yep,

1302
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:41.520
that was yeah, that was a
wild time. Yeah, all right,

1303
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:45.319
seventy dollars games may go the way
of the Dodo believes. Saber ceo

1304
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:49.640
Saber Interactive CEO Matthew Cars believes that
seventy dollars games will eventually become obsolete as

1305
01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:55.119
developer seek to cut costs and risks
in an increasingly challenging Triple A games market.

1306
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:59.199
Saber with studios like Nimble Giant,
three D Realms and possibly four A

1307
01:32:59.319 --> 01:33:02.520
games, depends on what happens with
them. An Embracer is seen as a

1308
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:08.920
middle market publisher between independent studios and
Triple A publishers. Karch cites Hell Divers

1309
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:12.960
two as an example and explains that
the upcoming Space Marine two is priced that

1310
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:16.920
seventy dollars due to concerns over perceptions
of poor quality. He predicts that games

1311
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:21.079
will become more affordable over time due
to the high risks associated with expensive Triple

1312
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:26.760
A titles and the need for reduced
costs. Carch acknowledges the major shift in

1313
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:30.159
Triple A development with thousands of jobs
cut in the industry, and basically,

1314
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:34.600
so, yeah, I get what's
happening there, but yeah, let's do

1315
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:39.159
a check in on this seventy dollars
games. We are a few years into

1316
01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:45.279
this console generation where seventy dollars games
became the norm. It feels like we

1317
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:48.680
have not backslid in any real way. And yeah, there are other options

1318
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:50.760
out there, like a Hell Divers
two that comes out. It's like,

1319
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.119
yeah, we're a forty dollars game
because we want to get as many people

1320
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:58.720
playing online as possible. That feels
like a notable exception to the rule.

1321
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:00.159
And I don't know, I don't
know if I agree with this. I

1322
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.960
feel like these companies are going to
get to take as much a profit as

1323
01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.079
they possibly can, and that means
keeping costs for the consumer as high as

1324
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:10.399
possible. What do you all think? And yeah, yeah, I just

1325
01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:16.079
think that like the way that the
economy on this works is that the game

1326
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:23.560
comes out at seventy dollars, but
it's so rarely is seventy dollars forever exactly

1327
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.359
that, it's like, and they
build that into the financial modeling that they

1328
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:30.520
do when they price, when they
figure out how much the game is going

1329
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:32.359
to cost from the jump, right, like they know that three months later

1330
01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:36.239
they're going to put the game on
sale at twenty percent off, fifteen percent

1331
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:42.479
off whatever, whatever, with only
Nintendo being the company that's like, no,

1332
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:46.000
like this shit is gold, like
you, it holds its value forever,

1333
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.239
like we don't know how to lower
it. Yeah, yeah, we

1334
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:54.680
need that button broke, but they
never the button. I'm not going to

1335
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:58.199
start looking for it now, and
it's just like yeah, like okay,

1336
01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:02.840
Like I don't know. I feel
like people for people for whom the ten

1337
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:10.119
dollars jump was a big gap,
like a big jump already probably weren't buying

1338
01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:16.399
games at launch anyway. So I
think do you think that those people now

1339
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:19.640
by the game when it drops to
forty instead of like waiting for thirty,

1340
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:26.319
Like do you think that do you
think that maybe everyone sort of slides up

1341
01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:29.800
a couple percentage points? I think
that's what there's that I think that gets

1342
01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:31.479
to put in the model a little
bit. Not everyone, obviously, You're

1343
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.800
any sort of price pressure is going
to be felt by some percentage of the

1344
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:44.000
audience. Absolutely, So I think
what really this charch over Ataber Interact Cyber

1345
01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:46.479
Interactive is getting at is that developers
are going to have to get more creative

1346
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:49.720
with how they present their games because
that idea of like Space Marin two needs

1347
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.279
to be seventy dollars, because if
we release it for fifty dollars, people

1348
01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:56.159
are going to get it in their
heads that it's not a real big video

1349
01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:58.600
game, not a big video game. It's a video game, but not

1350
01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:00.000
a big boy video game. And
it's like, okay, Yeah, if

1351
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.720
you are in that situation where you
can't even like put out it at the

1352
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.279
price you want to because you're afraid
of perception, you're gonna have to like

1353
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:11.680
begin telling new stories as these companies
going forward. But you know, we

1354
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.880
are very like, the price is
the thing we think about the most.

1355
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:16.279
You know, we're having the conversation
about the subscription stuff, and it's like

1356
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:19.159
that's what we're thinking about. It's
like, yeah, the cost and cares

1357
01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.720
what's in there. The cost is
what I'm worried about. And so I

1358
01:36:21.720 --> 01:36:25.439
think, yeah, these companies are
going to have to get more creative.

1359
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:27.760
I don't just I just don't know
what that looks like. It's going to

1360
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.520
take time to figure that out,
though. I think I think Nikki was

1361
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.479
right though. I think if you
were already not buying full price games,

1362
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.880
the ten dollars didn't change anything.
And oh yeah, for sure. I

1363
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:42.319
say this as someone who you know, had grew up having to like constantly

1364
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:46.960
sell games forward the next game and
so like even Penny pitching up until honestly,

1365
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:50.079
relatively recently, Grub, I've told
you all the time, I still

1366
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:55.199
like buying sell physical games, like
if I have to to save the money,

1367
01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:59.399
and I don't know, even to
me, I'm like, ten dollars

1368
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.279
doesn't change much. That's not like
a world of difference. I was either

1369
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:05.960
going to buy this game at launch
or I was gonna wait either way.

1370
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:10.199
I don't think it's moved the neal
that much. Granted, there's, you

1371
01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:13.800
know, there's all the economics we
could talk about about how that ten dollars

1372
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:17.439
isn't going to people who need those
sures, which is a whole different conversation.

1373
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:21.239
But I just think most people this
hasn't affected them, Like I am

1374
01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:25.319
fortunate enough now to you know,
get a lot of games and not having

1375
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:27.800
a pay for them. But then
when my friends want to play with me,

1376
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:30.239
like say Call of Duty, when
they they really want to play in

1377
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:32.640
Modern Warfare three with me, based
on the way I was talking about,

1378
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:36.119
I was like, guys, you
know, it's seventy dollars for like basically

1379
01:37:36.239 --> 01:37:40.239
DLC And they were like, yeah, but this is this is like my

1380
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:43.520
purchase for the fall, So like, sure, whatever, it sucks,

1381
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:45.119
but yeah, I'll pay the seventy
bucks to play with you. So that

1382
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:49.640
that just hasn't really changed. And
yeah, I don't think the small change

1383
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:58.680
has affected people's purchasing decisions. Yep. I think it's also like a psychology

1384
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:01.560
too. I think like the price, you know, it kind of gets

1385
01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:08.359
built into like the optics of like
what the the sort of like average game

1386
01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:12.439
buyer kind of like you know,
does in their heads of like oh,

1387
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.520
you know, in terms of budgeting, and I mean you tell us grub

1388
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:21.479
like the spent is spending down in
a way that like would point to I

1389
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:26.399
mean, I know what Carts is
saying, because it's more of like,

1390
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:34.079
hey, the market can't sustain a
seventy dollars price, just from like what

1391
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.640
we've seen in the last you know, six months or so, right,

1392
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:43.279
Like, but I but I do
think you're still gonna have You're still gonna

1393
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:47.479
have people charging seventy dollars for certain
games as like a matter of principle,

1394
01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:51.680
you know what I mean, as
a matter of Like this game is without

1395
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:58.880
it doubt the full maximum retail price
that we can charge, right, Like,

1396
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:03.520
this is worth it. The seventy
dollars makes us display confidence that it's

1397
01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:08.239
worth it. I don't know,
There's a lot of contributing factors. I

1398
01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:13.439
think the point of this is more
saying that the middle of the road sort

1399
01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:16.319
of stuff, right, the games
that sit in between Triple A and n

1400
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:20.119
D, Yeah, might not be
able to get over. And what you

1401
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:24.199
have to when you like think about
pricing those games though, right like it

1402
01:39:24.279 --> 01:39:27.800
is you have to beat you're beating, You're going up against free Like.

1403
01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:31.960
This story is in direct conversation with
the with the story from a couple of

1404
01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.600
weeks ago that was, like,
people are playing games that are over five

1405
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:41.680
years old. Usually sixty percent of
games that people spend their time on,

1406
01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:44.880
or the sixteen percent of aunt of
time people spend on games are on games

1407
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:46.000
that are more than six years old. Yeah, yeah, so it's like

1408
01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:50.119
they've that's that money. They're not
even thinking about it, right, Like

1409
01:39:50.159 --> 01:39:54.760
it's already been spent. It is
so far in the past, so like

1410
01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:59.000
you have to go up against games
that people have already spent money on or

1411
01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:03.760
they are free. Yep. And
I think that's so backlarer to answer your

1412
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:08.600
question about like, oh, like
our sales down not a lot of games.

1413
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:13.000
But I think what happens is the
problems get exacerbated, so like a

1414
01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:16.319
suicide squad comes out and when it
misses, it misses hard. Yeah,

1415
01:40:16.399 --> 01:40:21.239
And I think that people make that
decision pretty like firmly, because hey,

1416
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:25.439
seventy dollars looks a little bit bigger
than sixty dollars, but if it was

1417
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.039
a game you were going to buy
anyhow, people pay that money. So

1418
01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:31.720
I think that it just makes the
gap even wider, which I think then

1419
01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.319
makes these games that are in between
in like you know, the biggest games

1420
01:40:35.319 --> 01:40:39.600
in the littlest games feel like they
have no home because they really don't.

1421
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:42.560
I think that's the reality is that
these games are getting too expensive to make

1422
01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.319
To like sort of be in the
middle of the road, you need to

1423
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:48.359
be a bigger hit. You know, and I guess obviously there's a couple

1424
01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:51.319
exceptions there, Like I think Dead
Island two is gonna be the one to

1425
01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:54.600
keep going back to whar It's like
that one probably made a lot of sense

1426
01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:56.800
based on its budget. It just
didn't make a lot of sense when it

1427
01:40:56.800 --> 01:41:00.960
was under Embracer. I guess I
did really think of that when now that

1428
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.479
we have seventy dollars games, that
means projections are going to naturally be higher.

1429
01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:05.720
And so yeah, like you said, when it misses, it's going

1430
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:09.680
to miss even harder than if it
was a sixty dollars game and they miss

1431
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:15.399
those sales, It's like infinite growth
is fucking bullshit. Yeah, who something

1432
01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:19.000
doesn't It doesn't sound right to me. It seems it seems fake and unsustainable

1433
01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:24.640
to me. Every day new baby
is born, they get buy my go,

1434
01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.359
right, and no one ever died, ever dies. That's yeah,

1435
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.560
that is so crucial is that nobody
born with money? Yeah, nobody ever

1436
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:33.760
dies and everyone has the same amount
of money. Yeah, babies are born

1437
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:42.600
with dollars ready, every baby is
born with a gaming budget. All right,

1438
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:45.399
let's get some real news now,
Star Wars Outlaws. The story trailer

1439
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:49.199
came out. The release date is
August thirtieth. It is coming to of

1440
01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:54.800
course, Xbox consoles, PlayStation five, Amazon Luna, and PC via the

1441
01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:58.600
Ubisoft launcher. I did not get
a chance to watch the story trailer got

1442
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.840
launched right when we were starting the
show, but I'll check it out.

1443
01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:02.920
I'm excited about this one. Uh. There was rumors that was like even

1444
01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:05.840
gonna come a little bit like earlier
than that, but it's like, I

1445
01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:10.439
don't know, August thirtieth, they
still wait summer times, really expecting yeah,

1446
01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:14.720
summertime. Yeah. Yeah. I
pulled it up and was looking in

1447
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.439
the corner of my eye while we
were talking about the last topic, and

1448
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:21.039
it looks good, Like I I
don't I'm not the Star Wars nerd that

1449
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.600
grub is. I'm sure you would
pull more of its. I'm interested to

1450
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.279
see what you had to say once
you take a look at and you know,

1451
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:30.119
can listen to it everything. But
man, that's a pretty game.

1452
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:34.640
Yeah looking games. It's in Snowdrop
right, Snowdrop. Yeah. Good.

1453
01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:38.960
And so that's a theme with the
Ubi South there. So I'm looking forward

1454
01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:43.880
to speaking of memberships like boy playing
that with Ubi Soft plus that I'll probably

1455
01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:46.199
be a good deal. Yeah,
good point, right, Yeah, and

1456
01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:49.000
it's like you could probably get through
that game pretty quickly and you have you're

1457
01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:54.680
one month of ubstuft plus and played
Avatar and stuff. Once the person go

1458
01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:59.039
for it, does anyone sidle up
to the side of it like a speeder

1459
01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:02.680
door and then shut it? I
don't think I saw that. No,

1460
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:10.680
damn, it's not snowdrop to me. Then pop so hard. When that

1461
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:15.560
that Division trail had First Division gameplay, when they when they when that dude

1462
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:18.239
fucking closed that door, I was
like, this is yeah, that's what's

1463
01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:20.800
if. I have no idea why
that fucking did it. For me,

1464
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:26.119
I was like video games are back
for me. The First Division trailer was

1465
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:28.399
always like, wait, they're going
to do the thing, aren't they Where

1466
01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:30.039
it's like every Ubi stuff trailer back
then was like Okay, here's a mission,

1467
01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:32.520
here's a mission, and then we're
gonna pull out and you're in a

1468
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:38.479
world and there's other people. Yeah, that's like, yeah, okay,

1469
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:44.119
you've done this time now, especially
when they have the gamers speak going on

1470
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:47.239
as a friendly A division had that, they were like a little bit toned

1471
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:50.199
down, but they still had that
Yeah. Good good trailers. You'd be

1472
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:56.920
doesn't know what they're doing. Battlefield
twenty forty two is ending, and EA

1473
01:43:57.039 --> 01:44:00.319
has laid out plans for the future
of the Battlefield franchise. Battlefield twenty forty

1474
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.680
two's a seventh season marks the end
of the game's active development. EA and

1475
01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:10.479
Dice are shifting their focus to future
projects, with Motive Studio joining the franchise

1476
01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:14.479
to work on upcoming titles in the
series. The decision comes after two years

1477
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:17.000
of updates and improvements to twenty forty
two. Man, it's already been two

1478
01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:19.600
years, which launched in a rough
statement, I thought it was longer.

1479
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:28.159
It seems like a lifetime perception of
times is like the Tornado War game,

1480
01:44:28.279 --> 01:44:31.880
Like that's the Yeah, that's where
you fight the fucking Tornado. See that

1481
01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:39.439
was That was twenty thirteen by Motive
Studio, known for the Dead Space remake

1482
01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:44.479
and Star Wars. Squadrons, will
collaborate with existing Battlefield studios worldwide to create

1483
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:49.119
a cohesive universe encompassing both multiplayer and
single player experiences. The studio is also

1484
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:54.960
continuing development on its upcoming Iron Man
game, So Motive is the latest studio

1485
01:44:55.000 --> 01:45:00.960
kind of get sucked into the Battlefield
of Vortex. Yeah, you really want

1486
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.840
is all of your cdios to like
fall and turn into call of duty support

1487
01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:10.520
CDOs because really, well forgot division
in the Battlefield, right and for Battlefield,

1488
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:13.760
which is you know, kind of
having some rough go of it.

1489
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:17.279
Yeah, and that's the that's the
one that I always wondered about Battlefield was

1490
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:19.800
like what twenty forty two, I'm
like, yeah, that game is gonna

1491
01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:23.199
come out, it better be free
to play, because yeah, a world

1492
01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:27.560
of super shooters, and that it
was not. It's oh, oh you

1493
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.319
think you could still do this your
battlefield. You're not call of duty.

1494
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.479
We learned that a long time ago. Even call of duty is not called

1495
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.520
Yeah, yeah, but call of
duty still can still seventy dollars every year,

1496
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:42.479
right and even but even so,
like you are starting from such a

1497
01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:45.720
disadvantage out of the gate, like
you're not even yeah yeah, the moment,

1498
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:49.039
and the moment has so thoroughly passed, right, like the moment where

1499
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:56.199
the market was strong enough to support
two of these first military first person shooters

1500
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.159
at the same time that basically there
was a time there wasn't time, Like

1501
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:04.039
that moment is gone, Like I
think that window has closed. Can you

1502
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:15.520
for me name any story beat from
a single player battlefield? Oh? Absolutely

1503
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:19.880
not. Maybe the maybe Battlefield one. I was like the one where you

1504
01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:23.760
go to rescue the tank and I'm
like, nope, that's Call of Duty.

1505
01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:29.399
Maybe Battlefield one like the first thing
I would I would recognize it.

1506
01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:33.000
Could not reiterate it to you at
all. That's tough, Like we should

1507
01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:38.760
have just don can we play co
op Bad Company two? Is that that

1508
01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:42.800
one was good? I like,
I love that. There's probably a way

1509
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:45.520
to do that. Battlefield three.
Battlefield three was the best one. They

1510
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.399
should have just every year. They
should just really re release back. I

1511
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:51.600
played a lot of three back in
the day. Yeah, because at that

1512
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:55.840
time it was so distinct from Call
of Duty. It did feel like a

1513
01:46:55.840 --> 01:47:00.319
difference experience. But was that the
one which was the one I had to

1514
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:05.119
like persistent online connection issues for like
six months? Was that four Medal of

1515
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:11.079
Honor? I don't remember honors a
lot back then. Yeah, I think

1516
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:15.520
I think it was four. That
sounds correct. Man. That was like

1517
01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:20.159
the PlayStation one era of like,
oh my god, war is amazing,

1518
01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:26.199
Yeah, Oh my god, oh
my god. World War two was like

1519
01:47:26.479 --> 01:47:29.640
so important to relitigate. Oh,
like, we have to, we have

1520
01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:31.960
to. What about the three where
they had Hardline and they're just like,

1521
01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:41.199
right, do some cop ship.
And the thing about Hardline though that I

1522
01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:47.960
didn't really like it. There was
something about the scale of those maps that

1523
01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:55.880
felt a little like and you could
like take on them. Yeah, yeah,

1524
01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.319
totally all right. The App Store
guidelines are now going to allow game

1525
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:05.000
emulators finding. Apple is updated its
app Store guidelines. Music streaming apps in

1526
01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:10.239
the EU can now redirect users to
external websites, and game emulators are now

1527
01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:15.079
allowed on Apple platforms. The changes
come after the EU Commission find Apple for

1528
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:18.119
abusing its market position. Spotify and
Apple Music are mentioned in the context of

1529
01:48:18.159 --> 01:48:23.479
the EU Commission ruling. The update
also includes changes such as allowing mini apps

1530
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:27.520
and game streaming. So, hey, that's that's pretty cool. Emulators are

1531
01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:29.840
legal, and they were just like, we're not going to allow allow you

1532
01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:32.640
to do this. Uh, and
that was that was the end of it.

1533
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:35.960
And Apple's draconian about this stuff.
They just completely shut these things down.

1534
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:40.039
Uh, this is a good sign. And once again it's like man

1535
01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:44.319
EU regulation shaking them loose and forcing
them to do something that's not just dumb

1536
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:47.279
as hell. Uh. So that
that's that's really cool to see. Android.

1537
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:50.039
On the other hand, like emulation
has kind of had like a backsliding

1538
01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:54.079
because of all the nint where a
lot of a lot of emulators are like

1539
01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:59.119
afraid to put their stuff on an
Android now. So it was Google's getting

1540
01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:01.439
really weird about the play story and
in a way that like I don't really

1541
01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:04.920
Google a weird company, but like
they're they're getting weird about the play store

1542
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:10.760
in a way that is like they're
trying as Apple is getting their ass handed

1543
01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:15.840
to them in Europe and and here
and here, I have so little faith

1544
01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:20.279
in the Department of Justice but likes
so thoroughly crossing my fingers, but like

1545
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:25.119
I'm with you too, But the
deal this is the first time that I've

1546
01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:30.760
read like a DOJ diatribe where they're
like they're kind of making very like us

1547
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:36.039
points, Like I'm like, hey, someone under fifty's working there now absolutely

1548
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:41.439
you know it's this about the green
bubbles. Yes, yeah, it's outlined

1549
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:45.359
in it too, and and the
watch. It's like they but they make

1550
01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:49.920
like very cohesive arguments in a way
where you're like, did they fucking outsources?

1551
01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:57.000
Yeah? It feels it feels legitimately
informed. Yes, in a way

1552
01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:02.239
that's wild, Like we're slowly moving
past the generation of the flashing twelve o'clock

1553
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:06.000
on the VCR, right, you
know what I mean, and like this

1554
01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:11.119
is where we're It's like, oh
my god, okay, yeah, well

1555
01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:15.520
we'll see see, yeah, we'll
see And emulation at least is going to

1556
01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:17.760
soften on the App Store and that's
good that What that really means is a

1557
01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:20.640
lot more development will happen in that
scene as people be like, hey,

1558
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:24.359
we could do stuff on Apple.
Now that's kind of a big place to

1559
01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:28.000
put these things out at. So
keeping people interested in making emulators is going

1560
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.920
to be important in the long run, and that'll be something there. Xbox

1561
01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:36.439
is moving full speed ahead on the
next gen hardware. Microsoft is diligently developing

1562
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:42.399
the next generation of Xbox hardware,
aiming for the most significant technological advancement it's

1563
01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:46.720
ever had. Xbox president Sarah Bond
confirmed this, hinting a new Xbox series

1564
01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:50.199
hardware this year. Images of a
white, digital only Xbox A Series X

1565
01:50:50.279 --> 01:50:57.000
resurface recently. Xbox is also investing
in game preservation and forward compatibility. Sony's

1566
01:50:57.039 --> 01:51:00.600
mentioned a PlayStation five's late life cycle
indicates that Xbox Series X Slash S's also

1567
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.960
approaching the end of its current generation. The key point here being like,

1568
01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.079
so we've known about the hardware that
they were like going to announced later this

1569
01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:10.800
year. They mentioned that, and
they also mentioned they would have the biggest

1570
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:15.279
technological technological advancement so far. There's
been a recent thing where now Sarah Bond

1571
01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:19.479
has talked about this backward compatibility team
ARM and it's ARM. Well, yeah,

1572
01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:23.960
it seems like it might have to
do with ARM. So they had

1573
01:51:24.079 --> 01:51:27.159
they had a backward compatibility team that
got a lot of stuff up and running

1574
01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:31.319
on the current Xbox Series X and
s uh and before the Xbox One,

1575
01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:36.439
from Xbox three sixteen Xbox games.
They've basically cashed out what they can do

1576
01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:42.880
with those games for whatever reason,
mostly legal reasons, so they wound wound

1577
01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:45.119
down that team, where like that
team was no longer like an active thing.

1578
01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:49.279
They're bringing it back up, and
maybe that's because they got some Activision

1579
01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:53.239
games. Now that makes some sense. It seems like they are they are

1580
01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:56.520
setting this up for a larger scope
than that, And to me that suggests,

1581
01:51:56.520 --> 01:51:58.920
well, hey, you have a
bunch of games that right now run

1582
01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:01.760
on Xbox series X and S.
What if the architecture changed, would you

1583
01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:04.319
be ready for that? This seems
like this is a step to get them

1584
01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:08.319
ready for that, whatever that might
look like. And to me, it

1585
01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:10.439
still sounds like that might be ARM. I don't know, Sean, I

1586
01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:12.920
know you're curious about this kind of
stuff. What do you think? No,

1587
01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:15.319
I definitely think that's what they're heading
towards, because you know, if

1588
01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:18.920
all those lead documents are true and
they are eventually moving towards that architecture,

1589
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:24.359
they're going to need a translation layer
for the current games. Like for if

1590
01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:29.079
anyone doesn't know, basically what we're
talking about here is if they're moving from

1591
01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:33.439
what's effectively a PC processor to the
type of processor that's in your phone.

1592
01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:39.199
You know, those two program types
are not compatible. You can't install an

1593
01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:43.039
EXE on your phone or whatever,
so you need a translation layer, like

1594
01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:45.680
say the Steam Deck uses to play
Windows games on Linux, you know,

1595
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:49.479
a different operating system. That's what
they're going to have to do eventually if

1596
01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:55.439
they do transition to ARM, like
say Apple did for all of their products,

1597
01:52:55.479 --> 01:53:00.680
now, which you know, Apple
has proven that it's it's credible,

1598
01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:10.079
like one or like the M series
of chips is like I I I feel

1599
01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:15.560
like I have not experienced a jump
like that since Mac went from power PC

1600
01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.560
to Intel. And even when I
was a kid, I was like,

1601
01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:26.640
oh shit, like we're fucking playing
with different gas now. But like as

1602
01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:34.920
an adult cojin adult, this Intel
to m like crazy killed. I cannot

1603
01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:40.760
kill this laptop. I can do. I can do anything on this MacBook

1604
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:45.239
Air for like ten hours and it
won't die if I do nothing but have

1605
01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:53.880
Chrome open and and messages fucking forever. It's a It's so good. That's

1606
01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:59.720
the beauty of having effectively mobile architecture
in a bigger, uh higher power device.

1607
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:02.880
Any efficiency it's yeah, it's still
so efficient that it's just basically using

1608
01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:06.279
all that for battery life or what
have your lower power consumption. It's really

1609
01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:11.000
cool. And by the way,
you know, we talk about like RESIDEVIL

1610
01:54:11.039 --> 01:54:15.079
four on iPhone and stuff nowadays,
the only reason you're getting stuff like that

1611
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:19.920
is because Apple's ecosystem is unified now. It's all running out the same chip.

1612
01:54:19.960 --> 01:54:24.039
It's all run on the M chips, So they make that stuff for

1613
01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:27.720
maco ass. But then they're like, yeah, but also it just runs

1614
01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:31.119
on like you know, the iPhones
and iPads, like with a little bit

1615
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:34.159
of work that we put in,
So why not also put there. That's

1616
01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:38.119
why you get stuff like that,
And that's what Xbox is eventually going to

1617
01:54:38.159 --> 01:54:42.399
be moving towards that they hand in
that direction is Yeah, any form,

1618
01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:46.359
any physical form that a quote unquote
Xbox can take will now run all these

1619
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:53.000
games, including these legacy ones through
backwards compatibility. Yeah. And it's so

1620
01:54:53.039 --> 01:54:55.439
people are going to be wondering,
Hey, you talk a lot about power

1621
01:54:55.479 --> 01:55:00.119
efficiency and mobile devices. Well,
real quick, those M one chips M

1622
01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:02.960
three now are in their desktop PCs
as well over an Apple, they're and

1623
01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:08.960
all of their computers across their entire
stack, and they're very very powerful if

1624
01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.880
you get like the you know,
the desktop or like the very very top

1625
01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:16.039
of the line of the top line
MacBook Pro or whatever. The trajectory that

1626
01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:19.319
these two things, X eighty six
and mac our Arm are on is that

1627
01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:24.000
the ARM is getting more powerful faster
than X eighty six is getting more efficient.

1628
01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:27.399
Right now, X eighty six is
still way more powerful if you have

1629
01:55:27.479 --> 01:55:30.199
built something directly for it and take
advantage of everything it can do. Sure,

1630
01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:33.920
but that's not going to last for
much longer. We are pretty much

1631
01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:36.479
getting to a point where, like
right now, M three is running things

1632
01:55:36.520 --> 01:55:41.119
faster than X eighty six because things
are built right directly for it and they

1633
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:43.000
could take more advantage of it,
and Apple is really good at that.

1634
01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:45.920
But one day it feels like ARM
is going to be able to enable that

1635
01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:50.560
for across the board for everybody,
and at that point, you're gonna be

1636
01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:54.319
sticking with X eighty six because it's
what you always used. Why would you

1637
01:55:54.319 --> 01:55:57.840
want to be in that situation?
At least having the opportunity to make the

1638
01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.680
decision to go to ARM is going
to be a position that all these companies

1639
01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:02.079
are are going to want to be
in. And if one company does that,

1640
01:56:02.159 --> 01:56:04.960
the other one doesn't, and that
enables them to make a very very

1641
01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:11.079
powerful handheld gaming device that takes over, they're going to have a huge advantage.

1642
01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:12.920
So you don't want to be left
behind on that. That's what all

1643
01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:15.680
this is really about, right.
X eighty six processors are stagnant at this

1644
01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:20.399
point. That's why you see trickle
down effects like and video move and video

1645
01:56:20.520 --> 01:56:27.640
moving into a frame generation on their
graphics cards of like generating frames through AI

1646
01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:30.560
and everything like that to boost your
frame rates. It's because CPUs can't keep

1647
01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:34.760
up in the high end and right
PC gaming space. It's also why you

1648
01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:39.479
have things like why the PS five
is in the situation it's in and going

1649
01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:43.159
into PS five Pro, why is
the processor not improved? They could have

1650
01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:46.720
theoretically what broken backwards combatibility? So
what had to put some work in there?

1651
01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:50.239
But at the same time, in
terms of like costs for them to

1652
01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:55.520
produce, the efficiency jump hasn't been
there yet for them to move on to

1653
01:56:55.600 --> 01:56:59.439
a more efficient processor that would be
better at the job. It's all yeah,

1654
01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:00.920
just all all the advancements are happening
in ARM and I think that's why

1655
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:05.359
you're going to see more companies doing
it, like Xbox also at least it

1656
01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:10.880
on the like the M series of
chips. They work the way I think

1657
01:57:11.079 --> 01:57:14.920
computers all right, the way I
thought computers worked, which is you just

1658
01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:17.680
put more stuff on top of it. Like the only difference between an M

1659
01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:21.640
one regular or like an M three
regular and an M one Pro and an

1660
01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:26.399
M one Max is just how many
of the chips there are on top the

1661
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:30.560
ship. They just put them next
to each other and they're like, yeah,

1662
01:57:30.640 --> 01:57:33.039
three times is good because we put
three of them in here, it's

1663
01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:40.239
like, oh okay, like sick
the U and for the X eighty six,

1664
01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:42.880
those chips are pretty much getting as
big as they can really get.

1665
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.039
This is the limited limiting factor that
that Sean was talking about. So the

1666
01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:48.159
new technology is going to be three
D stacking, which is like taking these

1667
01:57:48.159 --> 01:57:51.279
little chiplets and instead of putting them
side by side, they're gonna start stacking

1668
01:57:51.279 --> 01:57:55.640
them on top of one another,
and that'll have it. They've already started

1669
01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:57.680
doing this in a lot of ways, but they're going to do this across

1670
01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:00.640
all those little chip different chiplets that
are that are in there, and that

1671
01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:02.520
there'll have. Yeah, there'll be
a lot of like thermal concerns with all

1672
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:06.039
that stuff. So we'll see if
it's able to keep up with ARM.

1673
01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:10.720
But as far as I think Xbox
is concerned, being able to have the

1674
01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:13.359
option to go in the direction of
ARM when they so choose, it's going

1675
01:58:13.399 --> 01:58:16.199
to be very important. And that
translation laters layer is going to unlock that

1676
01:58:16.319 --> 01:58:20.199
for them, right they you can't
not have backward capatibility, Like listen,

1677
01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:24.600
you want to change the shived over
to ARM, fine, but the games

1678
01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:30.039
I bought better still work and they
know that last thing here, well one

1679
01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:32.920
more thing after this. I guess
the US video game hardware market peaked in

1680
01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.159
two thousand and eight. This was
a tweet from Mattis Mitella over at Sircana

1681
01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:40.640
and I just like want to want
to bring this up. He's like Sheriff,

1682
01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:45.760
console purchases is increasingly swinging to older
folks. Zoomers care less about consoles

1683
01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:49.520
than prior gens and Generation Alpha,
which we can't call them that, they

1684
01:58:49.760 --> 01:58:56.479
never care that. I think,
yes, every video game company is thinking

1685
01:58:56.520 --> 01:59:00.720
about expansion beyond console because they have
to. And they're a chart here that

1686
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:04.920
you guys can see where it's just
basically consoles. Video game hardware spending in

1687
01:59:05.000 --> 01:59:10.600
terms of dollars reached a peak in
two thousand and eight, and we've not

1688
01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:13.680
come close to that peak, even
when even like with inflation, because these

1689
01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:16.319
are not adjusted for inflation, so
we've not come close to that. Nicki

1690
01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:20.319
Grayson gian By anything else happened in
two thousand and eight. Yeah, so

1691
01:59:20.479 --> 01:59:25.760
listen, there were some issues with
the whole economy, But honestly, there's

1692
01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.920
a couple of things that happened.
It was one the economy just completely fall

1693
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:31.520
apart, fall apart globally. And
also the iPhone came out. Yeah,

1694
01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:36.119
the phone came out. Yeah,
the phone came out. Imagine. Yes,

1695
01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:40.680
recently I was thinking about, like, imagine how much money Epic would

1696
01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:46.239
have if they had Fortnite on the
iPhone? Yeah, and money, think

1697
01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:49.079
about that, Just like think about
what if Fortnite was on the iPhone.

1698
01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:55.199
That's that's impossible. They can make
that happen. Yeah, yeah, no,

1699
01:59:55.279 --> 01:59:59.560
obviously, Like that's the the the
mile marker, right, is like,

1700
01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:02.640
oh, smartphones, just smartphones in
general, right, but just to

1701
02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:09.600
showing people that like devices can be
agnostic and to the point where and it

1702
02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:13.960
can get you like sixty percent of
the way they're seventy percent yeah, right,

1703
02:00:14.119 --> 02:00:16.199
And that's where like you know,
gen Z was like, this is

1704
02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:18.760
the primary device I'm gonna use most
of the time. And for kids,

1705
02:00:18.800 --> 02:00:21.560
it's like, why would I ever
want anything else If you're not gonna be

1706
02:00:21.560 --> 02:00:26.119
on my phone? I don't care
about you that And and so that's where

1707
02:00:26.159 --> 02:00:30.000
a lot of these console manufacturers are
finding themselves where it's like it's impossible to

1708
02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:32.319
bridge that gap with these new new
generations of gamers because they just have no

1709
02:00:32.359 --> 02:00:36.640
affinity for this way of doing things. As the eldest millennial, I do

1710
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:44.840
have a uh a pretty direct line
of communication to Generation Alpha and by that

1711
02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:50.439
I mean my Fortnite crew and correct
and Generation Alpha whenever you're playing with them.

1712
02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:53.159
All right, Gen Alpha, let's
get in, Like, where's my

1713
02:00:53.199 --> 02:01:00.479
Gen Alpha boys? That's good.
Not yet, they don't they're not allowed

1714
02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:09.760
to have phones yet. But huge. It's cool because when I tell them

1715
02:01:09.800 --> 02:01:14.479
I'm playing on PC. So again
this is anecdotal, but their reaction to

1716
02:01:14.640 --> 02:01:20.439
that is like I somehow own a
space shuttle. Like when I say,

1717
02:01:20.439 --> 02:01:25.439
like, no, I'm playing on
PC, they're sort of like what because

1718
02:01:25.479 --> 02:01:29.520
the toy streamers right are are on
PCs and they have the big powerful rigs,

1719
02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:31.000
and that feels like, oh,
well, that's something rich people have,

1720
02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:33.880
like exactly. I think they I
think they see that as some sort

1721
02:01:33.880 --> 02:01:41.319
of like symbol of affluence, you
know. But they are precious about consoles

1722
02:01:41.319 --> 02:01:43.960
though, too. I mean I
think most of them have switches. Like

1723
02:01:44.039 --> 02:01:46.600
that is the thing that kind of
doesn't count here. Yeah, yeah,

1724
02:01:46.640 --> 02:01:49.000
for sure, right, but like
yeah, you know, I don't know,

1725
02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:53.600
I find that to be interesting.
You know, it's a little it's

1726
02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:56.600
a little hyperbolic. To be like
Alphas may never care, like okay,

1727
02:01:56.720 --> 02:02:00.159
maybe, I mean I think they
probably won't, and like the way that

1728
02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:04.119
loyalty, it's even like a loyalty
or like a default mindsetting where it's like,

1729
02:02:04.119 --> 02:02:09.239
for me, gaming is consoles,
even if someone like primarily primarily these

1730
02:02:09.319 --> 02:02:12.359
days, I'm playing on my Steam
Deck PC and then some switch. When

1731
02:02:12.399 --> 02:02:14.800
I think about games, I'm thinking
about a video game console, and I

1732
02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:17.600
just don't think they're doing that same
thing, going to be software, yeah,

1733
02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:21.239
in a way that battle Yeah,
yeah, it's just a different interpretation

1734
02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:26.520
of kind of the same thing.
I think it's just like the different way

1735
02:02:26.560 --> 02:02:31.119
in which you ingest the software right, right, and then then you know,

1736
02:02:31.520 --> 02:02:33.800
you do look at these the dates
on this. It's like, yeah,

1737
02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:36.600
two thousand and seven, two thousand
and eight, Nintendo was selling the

1738
02:02:36.640 --> 02:02:42.520
Wii and the DS and both were
massive, massive success. Is over one

1739
02:02:42.560 --> 02:02:45.239
hundred million for each, and so
you look compared to today, the switch

1740
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:49.359
very successful, but it doesn't come
close to If you match up both the

1741
02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:54.399
Wii and the original DS, it's
like, yeah, we have to we

1742
02:02:54.479 --> 02:02:58.159
have to point the finger to we
you a little bit for that downturn.

1743
02:02:59.199 --> 02:03:02.920
We can't we can't act like it's
this innocent platform, right, it's got

1744
02:03:02.920 --> 02:03:09.000
blood on it too long. Exactly
what we do with the fact that that

1745
02:03:09.159 --> 02:03:13.640
we burned very bright, very fast. Yeah, yes, that's true.

1746
02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:18.920
Yeah, the we U and three
DS online functionality a shutdown yesterday. Actually

1747
02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:24.439
that's a little story as well.
Uh hell out. Matt Piscito had one

1748
02:03:24.479 --> 02:03:30.520
other point, sean physical software accounted
for approximately ten percent of all US video

1749
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:34.119
game content spending in twenty nineteen,
back back in twenty nineteen. Well,

1750
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:39.239
yes, yes, across everything,
right, yes, in twenty twenty three,

1751
02:03:39.279 --> 02:03:43.680
that percentage fell to under five percent. Now that includes console portable PC,

1752
02:03:43.880 --> 02:03:46.159
cloud, non console, VR subscription, and mobile. So you think

1753
02:03:46.199 --> 02:03:51.560
about all the dollars literally everything including
mobile where you cannot get those games physically,

1754
02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:58.000
right Yeah? Yet yeah, right, trying hard, right, yeah.

1755
02:03:59.800 --> 02:04:04.439
End, Gauge games run great.
I've never seen an engaged cartridge in

1756
02:04:04.479 --> 02:04:08.880
my life. I've never had the
box, the boxes, but I've never

1757
02:04:08.920 --> 02:04:14.079
seen the card. I think it's
like a switch card. Yeah, yeah,

1758
02:04:14.079 --> 02:04:17.039
I see them once in real life. Yeah, so then it's a

1759
02:04:17.159 --> 02:04:23.119
it's not a cartridge, it's a
card. Never uh if we we know

1760
02:04:23.199 --> 02:04:25.880
this is happening though, but I
think the reason I bring this up,

1761
02:04:25.880 --> 02:04:29.479
Sean, is because I think these
are the numbers these companies are actually looking

1762
02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:30.920
at. I think when we look
at like, oh, the split between

1763
02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:33.359
physical and digital, when you put
out a game on a console, it's

1764
02:04:33.399 --> 02:04:36.319
like, you know, forty percent
physical, maybe sometimes fifty percent physical,

1765
02:04:36.359 --> 02:04:40.239
maybe a little bit more than that. Sometimes it's like they're they're looking at

1766
02:04:40.239 --> 02:04:44.159
the wider market, like there are
dollars being spent on digital, and physical

1767
02:04:44.279 --> 02:04:46.960
is like a five percent slice of
this overall market. And that's why we

1768
02:04:47.039 --> 02:04:51.199
are where we are, whole thing. That's why you get Remedy not putting

1769
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:55.319
out a physical copy of ellen Way
too. That's why I get Xbox not

1770
02:04:55.479 --> 02:04:58.800
on a physical copy of hell Blade
too, Like, yeah, that's because

1771
02:04:58.800 --> 02:05:01.640
it just doesn't make much sense because
it won't make them much money. Yeah,

1772
02:05:02.520 --> 02:05:06.880
and again not the weird thing,
right, is that that creates that

1773
02:05:06.920 --> 02:05:14.800
creates another business, which is bizarre, right, And I am I am

1774
02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:18.319
a bit doing these physical editions,
which is like which if you are going

1775
02:05:18.399 --> 02:05:23.560
to have a physical addition, I
think I am personally and this is because

1776
02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:27.199
I'm old and washed, but it's
like I want it to be nice,

1777
02:05:27.800 --> 02:05:32.359
like I think I've moved past the
here's a bright, fluorescent green box that

1778
02:05:32.439 --> 02:05:39.159
I'm displaying in my home. Yeah, a little bit. To me.

1779
02:05:39.239 --> 02:05:43.279
It occupies the same place as like, oh, we're going to print a

1780
02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:50.000
thousand vinyl for yes, I mean
games, just skip to that, right,

1781
02:05:50.199 --> 02:05:54.600
right, instead of waiting for physical
games to go away for ten years

1782
02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:57.159
and like, well, we started
printing vinyl again. It's like, yeah,

1783
02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:00.560
no, they saw that as an
opportunity and that's one they were going,

1784
02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:03.720
Yeah, and there will be a
market for that for quite some time.

1785
02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:05.600
I think, sure, But I
don't. But I don't think that

1786
02:06:05.720 --> 02:06:10.199
market is more than boutique, I
right, Like, I don't think that

1787
02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:15.079
market makes a dent. I mean, only the truly most perverted of free

1788
02:06:15.800 --> 02:06:24.439
spend time, money and effort hunting
down legacy physical media. Yeah right,

1789
02:06:24.920 --> 02:06:28.399
don't disagree, Yeah right, Like
the biggest freaks we know, Yeah,

1790
02:06:28.479 --> 02:06:32.880
the biggest freaks we know that we
we yellow shouldered, Yeah, disgusting,

1791
02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:41.039
exactly. We're above them, We're
above them, We're above that. Uh.

1792
02:06:41.359 --> 02:06:44.680
Finally, the last headline I have
here says Sean wants to talk about

1793
02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:51.359
paint. Okay, I love news, like, so this is news adjacent

1794
02:06:51.600 --> 02:06:57.640
it is a rumor. Uh the
Twitter account Midori, who you might know

1795
02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:03.279
as that Twitter account leaking everything Sega
doesn't mean what does marduri mean in Japanese?

1796
02:07:03.560 --> 02:07:09.800
Green? I think you Sentaori time
now I'm thinking Midori, like there's

1797
02:07:09.840 --> 02:07:15.680
like a paper company in Midori.
I believe it literally means green. Which

1798
02:07:15.720 --> 02:07:21.760
is interesting here because, uh so
this sware account often associated with Persona News

1799
02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:25.359
because they have that as like their
profile pick. They were talking about P

1800
02:07:25.520 --> 02:07:28.399
three rialo before it came out a
bunch but they seem to just know a

1801
02:07:28.439 --> 02:07:30.680
bunch of stuff about Sega, like
grow when you do gmm. This is

1802
02:07:30.720 --> 02:07:34.359
like the Twitter account those stories are
always talking about, right, I recognize

1803
02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:40.079
it. Yes, yeah, so
this account just tweets out randomly. Persona

1804
02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:43.199
six's color is green, and which
is something we've been talking about, like

1805
02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:46.319
what's the color going to be for
the next Persona game? And the reason

1806
02:07:46.319 --> 02:07:49.279
I actually want to bring it up
is because this interesting rabbit hole I did

1807
02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:55.680
not know existed about this image that
was released for Persona's twenty fifth anniversary where

1808
02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:58.920
it's all the characters in front of
a wall where they just dig graffiti.

1809
02:07:59.800 --> 02:08:01.439
And you can look this up it's
very easy, fine, because you just

1810
02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:05.680
look up like the green paint theory
or green bucket theory something like that.

1811
02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:09.239
Well, there's all these persona characters
standing in line, but then very prominently

1812
02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:15.760
featured is a paint bucket of green
paint. And so people are like,

1813
02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:18.079
what's interesting, Why is there green
paint? If like, all these characters

1814
02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:22.359
are associated with different colors and they
have on their hands, why is there

1815
02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:24.880
green paints? And so people are
trying to put one and two together to

1816
02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:30.600
figure out where this all adds up. This is the wildest shit because apparently

1817
02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:33.920
they were like, okay, does
the order mean anything? The characters are

1818
02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:37.319
standing in a specific order, and
so like yeah, and so it's like

1819
02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:41.960
you if you line up the game
with like what the character is like five,

1820
02:08:41.159 --> 02:08:43.800
one something something, They're like,
okay, well if the paint bucket,

1821
02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:48.560
if we assume that's the next one, that's six. It's wild because

1822
02:08:48.439 --> 02:08:54.479
forwards the order means nothing. Backwards, the order of the characters is the

1823
02:08:54.520 --> 02:08:58.720
hex code for the shade of green
and the paint buckets. And I was

1824
02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:07.439
like, this is so you told
this story because that has never heard anything

1825
02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:16.880
worse than his life. Green is
fucking grass. Okay, it was.

1826
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:24.960
I'm not sure you understand what the
section is or it all counts. It's

1827
02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:31.199
all good anyways, screen all right, I have another final update. Sorry.

1828
02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:43.119
Nicky is also wearing are what green
screens? J o'hoa underscore Jam Jerome

1829
02:09:43.279 --> 02:09:48.760
on Twitter at eleven o five a
m. Pacific time, tweeted in all

1830
02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:56.119
caps, You've got to be kidding
me. We went to Vegas. In

1831
02:09:56.399 --> 02:10:00.399
Las Vegas. He's taking a selfie. He's wearing an orange hootie with black

1832
02:10:00.479 --> 02:10:03.520
backpack and some noise canceling over the
year headphones. And he is standing in

1833
02:10:03.520 --> 02:10:07.840
front of a Wheel of Fortune spot
machine, which is the one ever one

1834
02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:11.199
just sits at. They just sit
at these like jan run away, what

1835
02:10:11.319 --> 02:10:16.319
are you doing so? Agress in
peace too? Wherever he's gonna have a

1836
02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:22.800
tough go, he might he might
want to drive to sef Believe it's like

1837
02:10:22.840 --> 02:10:26.479
a it's like a thirty minute difference. They couldn't have fucking stuck it out

1838
02:10:26.520 --> 02:10:30.039
for thirty more minutes, right,
like, how cus would you? Situation?

1839
02:10:31.760 --> 02:10:37.600
That's annoyingly close, that's frustratingly close. I have to land in macaren

1840
02:10:37.640 --> 02:10:43.640
and just be in the gross bah. I just wanted to share the headline

1841
02:10:43.640 --> 02:10:48.760
here. Persona fans lose it and
it says as Leak suggests next game's color

1842
02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:54.079
scheme, but really just focused on
the Persona fans. That's the important part,

1843
02:10:54.119 --> 02:10:58.199
you guys. I think this is
wild that people like went through these

1844
02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:03.000
likes to fear this out, Like, what the hell got to your hands?

1845
02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:07.199
I appreciate the brit was the bridge
too far? Like I was on

1846
02:11:07.319 --> 02:11:11.199
board with like a nido and then
you're like, but if you it's a

1847
02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:15.520
fucking RGB color color, where I
was like, that is wild. I

1848
02:11:15.600 --> 02:11:18.119
love the people who did it.
That's so funny. That's good. Yeah,

1849
02:11:18.159 --> 02:11:24.439
those meetings in the over at Atlas
must have been sick o mode to

1850
02:11:24.520 --> 02:11:28.640
be like, I'm gonna make the
bucket green and then if we put all

1851
02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:31.680
the animes in the numb in the
order, it'll be they'll be green.

1852
02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:39.319
Yeah. Wow, Well is that
it? Grub. That's it for the

1853
02:11:39.359 --> 02:11:43.600
news. The show's once again yours
Backlar, Okay, I will take it

1854
02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:46.359
from you with my hands. I
will place it on the side, and

1855
02:11:46.439 --> 02:11:52.000
I will let you bring us to
break on the other side. We've got

1856
02:11:52.039 --> 02:12:01.079
some emails. Stay tuned. Hey, it's emails. Get excited email time.

1857
02:12:01.119 --> 02:12:07.840
You could play the there we go. That's right, oh ship,

1858
02:12:09.800 --> 02:12:13.319
there we go emails. If you
want to email the show, you write

1859
02:12:13.319 --> 02:12:18.439
an email to BombCast at giant bomb
dot com and then uh usually Jane Ochell

1860
02:12:18.600 --> 02:12:24.000
goes through all them. I have
access to them as well, but I

1861
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:28.800
ignore them. Did you go through
these emails or was this or was this

1862
02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:33.560
a jam before a flight or something? Wait, oh, I thought you

1863
02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:37.479
did this. I think I know
it's jan because these are targeted as we

1864
02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:43.640
go through these missile strikes from Dan
right here. I don't have the Dog

1865
02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:54.399
the program. Somebody send a couple
of times. I just fucking raw dog

1866
02:12:54.439 --> 02:12:56.239
in this. I have no idea
what's going on? There you go.

1867
02:12:56.760 --> 02:13:00.680
It's the best way to podcast is
to raw dog. And one knows that

1868
02:13:01.279 --> 02:13:05.680
I'm excited. Uh No, the
emails are good. I do read emails.

1869
02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:07.520
I just have a I don't want
people to think like, oh,

1870
02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:13.800
Packler is above reading emails. Number
one, Yes, but number two I

1871
02:13:13.800 --> 02:13:18.399
I create a filter in my Gmail. Yes that I don't want to filter.

1872
02:13:18.119 --> 02:13:28.239
You don't seems, but there there
are certain keywords that will remain anonymous

1873
02:13:30.119 --> 02:13:39.800
that if you do no, not
talking. I'm sure yes, maybe.

1874
02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:41.680
Now you just have to send emails
and see if you can trigger them.

1875
02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:46.199
That's the game I'm playing. It's
an a ar g. This is the

1876
02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:50.800
game I've made for you. All. Okay, we're going to get through

1877
02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:56.000
these again. BombCast at giant bomb
dot com is the email address. Uh,

1878
02:13:56.079 --> 02:14:01.520
let's go to Corey from British Columbia. Corey said, Hello, my

1879
02:14:01.680 --> 02:14:11.359
wife. My wife eats shrimp tails
frequently, Jeff gasping. She thinks it's

1880
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:16.399
a good source of calcium. Can
we can check that. We can look

1881
02:14:16.439 --> 02:14:18.960
that up. She'll make us a
nice shrimp pasta for dinner and leave the

1882
02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:22.840
tails on. I will have to
pick through my food, remove the tails

1883
02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:26.479
and place them on the edge of
the plate. It's an actual source of

1884
02:14:26.560 --> 02:14:33.079
friction in our relationship. Sounds like
it. I hate this idea. There

1885
02:14:33.520 --> 02:14:37.520
may be a cultural component to this, since she was born and raised in

1886
02:14:37.600 --> 02:14:43.199
Japan. You gonna leave with that
now? I feel it just seems I

1887
02:14:43.279 --> 02:14:52.159
have no idea, and, out
of stubborn frustration, refuse to explore furthership.

1888
02:14:52.439 --> 02:14:56.439
Have you tried asking? Yeah,
like talk to your part gets just

1889
02:14:56.600 --> 02:15:03.439
ask and also like you you can
either ask or don't get over it.

1890
02:15:03.720 --> 02:15:07.119
This is this is the part about
relationships that people forget, is that like

1891
02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:13.239
you're with other people and they're allowed
to be weird in themselves. Yeah.

1892
02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:16.720
Also for sure. So like unless
you're eating the shirt pasta every fucking day,

1893
02:15:16.840 --> 02:15:20.479
which is probably not true, just
fucking get over like not to be

1894
02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:24.439
like, get over it, now, get over but get over it.

1895
02:15:24.720 --> 02:15:28.560
You'll eat the tails or keep picking
them out. We'll talk about it or

1896
02:15:35.359 --> 02:15:41.359
I am endlessly blown away hearing not
again, Corey, you sound great.

1897
02:15:41.359 --> 02:15:48.319
I'm sure you and your partner have
a fantastic relationship outside of crustaceans. I

1898
02:15:48.359 --> 02:15:56.560
think there's so many people that like, don't talk shit out there significant others,

1899
02:15:56.640 --> 02:15:58.560
right, I see it all the
time. People in the locker room.

1900
02:15:58.640 --> 02:16:01.479
They're like, oh man, I'm
just I'm not gonna say anything.

1901
02:16:03.079 --> 02:16:07.439
Okay, Well, continue to lead
your terrible life. Friend. I don't

1902
02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:09.279
know what to tell you. Yeah. The only way to make changes to

1903
02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:13.840
change stuff, you know, so
you gotta do something about it. It

1904
02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:18.359
also seems more funny than not,
so I do realize you're having a laugh

1905
02:16:18.359 --> 02:16:33.799
here, but go ahead, Seohn, Yeah, yeah, exactly, though

1906
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:46.479
you're trash. Look, I've I've
tried to rationalize the shrimp tail eating thing

1907
02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:50.520
as much as I could. I've
been as charitable as possible. I've brought

1908
02:16:50.559 --> 02:16:56.719
the conversation to many groups of circles, friends, circles, and nobody.

1909
02:16:56.280 --> 02:17:03.159
It's unanimously what you like. No
one in their right mind is like,

1910
02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:05.959
oh, you can eat them,
or like I only eat them if they're

1911
02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:09.639
fried, like Tempora. No,
nobody across the board is like the they

1912
02:17:09.680 --> 02:17:16.799
are shrimptails are like the fingernails of
the shrewd. Like, what are we

1913
02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:22.280
doing? Okay, yes, could
you digest a fingernail? Sure, it

1914
02:17:22.399 --> 02:17:26.760
goes through the poop. Yeah,
you know it ain't up in Chance Plaine.

1915
02:17:26.840 --> 02:17:39.559
Yeah. It's a cultural yes,
I think so, just like Bailey,

1916
02:17:39.440 --> 02:18:00.639
Just like Bailey Myers, Hey,
California. All right, so Shawn's

1917
02:18:00.680 --> 02:18:03.639
racist, get it, that's what
we're saying. We get it. That's

1918
02:18:03.639 --> 02:18:07.639
not what we're trying to be though. No, so we will keep shaving

1919
02:18:07.680 --> 02:18:13.399
the cultures exactly. That's the bigger
thing. Thank you. Calcium in the

1920
02:18:13.440 --> 02:18:16.799
tails. There's a lot of shit
in those tales though, like protein,

1921
02:18:16.840 --> 02:18:22.760
fiber, iron, vitamin B.
I would think ship is that what you

1922
02:18:22.840 --> 02:18:26.000
meant? No, that's not in
there. That's just me being a bad

1923
02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:30.200
swear boy. Yeah. But a
protein, viber, iron, vitamin B,

1924
02:18:30.319 --> 02:18:33.200
and calcium. That's that's what's in
the tails. Cool. I do

1925
02:18:33.280 --> 02:18:41.479
love shrimp pro shrimp. Okay,
next caller, next caller? Wrong show?

1926
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:43.719
You sit there. I'm like,
I'm not playing a voicemail. You

1927
02:18:43.719 --> 02:18:48.760
can understand? Yeah? Right?
Which show I'm used to hosting? Uh?

1928
02:18:48.920 --> 02:18:52.280
I'm a few episodes behind. But
I was destrut listening to you all

1929
02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:56.159
talk about the Peak Final Fantasy game
in episode eight thirty two. In my

1930
02:18:56.239 --> 02:19:01.719
opinion, it's either seven or tactics. No, Jen, not tactics.

1931
02:19:01.840 --> 02:19:05.639
Advance you sicko. It's better than
tactics. Though. Where I got destrut

1932
02:19:05.680 --> 02:19:09.799
though, was Grub defining Peak of
a Game series. He said that everything

1933
02:19:09.840 --> 02:19:13.600
after that entry in said series would
try to recapture the same magic as the

1934
02:19:13.639 --> 02:19:18.840
former release, which could only mean
one horrible thing. The Peak Final Fantasy

1935
02:19:18.879 --> 02:19:26.079
game was Kingdom Hearts. I mean, and they've been chasing that Mousho dragon

1936
02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:31.360
ever since. Why do you think
they haven't made a turn based mainline game

1937
02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:43.600
ever since? That's from but like
like a dragon infant w Wealth is doing

1938
02:19:43.680 --> 02:19:46.600
Okay, yeah, listen, I
don't want to. I don't want to.

1939
02:19:46.799 --> 02:19:50.040
Why do you got to put your
definitions on my desire to board turn

1940
02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:54.840
put them in a room like that, put me in a box, put

1941
02:19:54.879 --> 02:20:00.959
them in a box. But it
isn't like like Persona gets bigger with every

1942
02:20:00.959 --> 02:20:13.879
game, right, yes, okay, why did Kingdom Hearts ruined everything?

1943
02:20:13.799 --> 02:20:20.120
That's the world? Yeah, I
don't know. I'm I'm kind of happy

1944
02:20:20.120 --> 02:20:22.399
to be detached from all that.
Like I knew when Kingdom Hearts was a

1945
02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:26.120
thing. I I just I just
sort of, like, you know,

1946
02:20:26.719 --> 02:20:33.879
decided to sit it out. I
guess, like based on how old I

1947
02:20:33.920 --> 02:20:39.440
was and what I was into,
Like I I should be sick, but

1948
02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:43.639
I should be it missed me and
I'm I'm normal. Yep, yep,

1949
02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:56.280
I'm completely regular. Yeah. Yeah, all right, Well that was from

1950
02:20:56.639 --> 02:21:01.559
Buddy in Florida. Thanks Buddy.
Okay, next one, we got Jeff

1951
02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:07.200
from Quebec. Hey, Bombers and
Fighters. You're hired to come up with

1952
02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:09.200
a name for a new fighting game
franchise. The gameplay would be good,

1953
02:21:09.239 --> 02:21:13.239
but the publisher needs a game title
to outshine Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat,

1954
02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:16.920
tech In, et cetera. What's
the best possible name for a fighting game?

1955
02:21:18.079 --> 02:21:22.399
I suggest shoot fighter X. The
X doesn't mean anything. It's pretty

1956
02:21:22.399 --> 02:21:28.920
good. It's pretty good. You
can put any series of words together after

1957
02:21:30.040 --> 02:21:39.399
they released in night underbirth, rebirth
to you got it two? Oh,

1958
02:21:39.399 --> 02:21:43.200
that's it? Okay, there,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1959
02:21:43.239 --> 02:21:48.479
there it is. So we could
we can. I think we should each

1960
02:21:50.000 --> 02:21:54.879
give a word that we like in
order, and that'll be the name of

1961
02:21:54.920 --> 02:22:05.840
the game. All right, back
of our starts smack blood we wait in

1962
02:22:05.920 --> 02:22:11.559
that order, smack smack. Well, I guess that's the show title,

1963
02:22:15.200 --> 02:22:18.840
right right, yeah, right,
write that down. Smack smack, blood,

1964
02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:33.479
punch wet. That's okay, okay, that would be good. Isn't

1965
02:22:33.479 --> 02:22:37.600
that a game? Not any time
recently? Wait? What was what?

1966
02:22:37.600 --> 02:22:39.159
What game? I think of?
It's not a fighting game. It's like

1967
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:43.639
an action of game from it was
like your Dark Siders was that was?

1968
02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:48.799
That was Dark Sider with like the
three the three Horsemen, the four Horsemen

1969
02:22:48.879 --> 02:22:54.680
kind of it was just a game. It was three Horses three are you

1970
02:22:54.680 --> 02:23:01.879
thinking of? Are you thinking of
night Trap? Night Trap? It was

1971
02:23:01.920 --> 02:23:03.600
called Dark Siders. I thought it
was called something else, But that is

1972
02:23:05.159 --> 02:23:11.840
about the Dark Stalkers, which is
that where Morgan is from. Yeah,

1973
02:23:13.239 --> 02:23:18.399
smack smack, blood punch wet is
good. Yeah. I would If I

1974
02:23:18.440 --> 02:23:20.920
had to name a fighting game,
I would just call it blood Sport the

1975
02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:28.639
game. That's why I said blood
Let's Sport the No no, no,

1976
02:23:28.639 --> 02:23:31.319
no, Yeah, it would be
bootleg, but it wouldn't have any references.

1977
02:23:31.399 --> 02:23:35.280
There would be a character that kind
of looks like Jean Claude Van Damn

1978
02:23:35.319 --> 02:23:43.399
if you squint it, what if
you? Yeah, just call it fighting

1979
02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:48.120
stuff, you know. Yeah.
That's like half of what we do here

1980
02:23:48.200 --> 02:23:50.959
is like, hey, that was
a dumb name. We should do that.

1981
02:23:50.079 --> 02:23:56.000
Yeah, and that becomes a show. It's true. H Okay.

1982
02:23:56.360 --> 02:24:01.319
Next we have Jacob from Kansas Hello, on Disputed Heavyweight Bomb Squad Champions.

1983
02:24:01.600 --> 02:24:05.520
Since wrestle Mania just happened this past
weekend, I wanted to ask if the

1984
02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:09.159
Wrestling minute hasn't already been used up. No, I think we actually we

1985
02:24:09.200 --> 02:24:13.680
haven't hit the quote yet. Who
was your favorite mid tier wrestler to watch,

1986
02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:18.639
someone who never won the big titles
but was always around putting in work.

1987
02:24:18.799 --> 02:24:22.239
Mine was the Hurricane in the mid
two thousands, or Sugar Shane Helms

1988
02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:26.239
when he was in WCW. I
love this superhero gimmick and the theme music

1989
02:24:26.280 --> 02:24:30.840
at the time, I'm probably qualified
to answer this. I think for me

1990
02:24:30.920 --> 02:24:37.399
it was like Al Snow, like
loved Al Snow with his mannequin head that

1991
02:24:37.479 --> 02:24:39.280
he would do in ECW. Sure, maybe that's is that. I don't

1992
02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:43.639
know if that answer qualifies, but
he was definitely like mid mid tier dude.

1993
02:24:43.040 --> 02:24:46.520
I don't think he won stuff ever. He was just sort of involved

1994
02:24:46.520 --> 02:24:50.879
in a lot of storylines. And
he was also like not an absolute freak

1995
02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:54.600
in the way that like you could
watch The Sandman from Afar and also be

1996
02:24:54.639 --> 02:24:56.959
like, I don't I don't think
i'd ever want to hang out with that

1997
02:24:56.000 --> 02:24:58.520
person, where like Al Snow you'd
be like, yeah, I get a

1998
02:24:58.520 --> 02:25:03.920
beer with Al No, that might
be all right, Yeah, I I

1999
02:25:03.959 --> 02:25:09.639
really liked Raven's Nest. That the
wasn't that Raven. It was Raven,

2000
02:25:09.760 --> 02:25:13.799
Yes, Raven was the leader of
that stable. Yes, but I like

2001
02:25:13.920 --> 02:25:16.360
all of the characters in there,
including Billy Kidman. I think it was

2002
02:25:16.360 --> 02:25:20.680
just called Kid at that time,
big Kidman fan. He was. He

2003
02:25:20.799 --> 02:25:24.600
was like wearing georgs even before it
was like Emo boys, right, Yeah,

2004
02:25:24.639 --> 02:25:26.440
basically, yeah, they had feelings
and then they wrestled about it.

2005
02:25:26.479 --> 02:25:30.559
So yeah, they called themselves the
flock. It was the flock. Yeah,

2006
02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:33.719
yeah, that's right, the flock. That's right. Yes, And

2007
02:25:33.760 --> 02:25:39.280
then Raven was also kind of mid
too a lot. Raven was fun.

2008
02:25:39.719 --> 02:25:46.639
Yeah, I saw I saw the
Bubba Ray was that he did rest you

2009
02:25:46.719 --> 02:25:50.799
draft to match? That's cool?
Yeah, I like that. My favorite

2010
02:25:50.840 --> 02:25:56.879
made Carter is like Triple H like
John Cena, like those kind of guys,

2011
02:25:56.200 --> 02:26:01.959
Like they didn't really hit the big
time for me, but like I

2012
02:26:01.959 --> 02:26:05.120
think they've put in good work,
and I think at least a couple of

2013
02:26:05.360 --> 02:26:09.360
like maybe like the Rock, Like
I feel like you might have like a

2014
02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:15.000
career outside of wrestling if if you
wanted it. Hot take. Yeah,

2015
02:26:15.520 --> 02:26:18.680
all right, we'll see where that
goes. And Sean, you're completely detached

2016
02:26:18.680 --> 02:26:24.120
from wrestling? Is that true?
It's cool? I mean, look,

2017
02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:26.840
I who know, I was gonna
say that was gonna make some sort of

2018
02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:31.399
comparison of like who knows more,
whether Dan knows more about wrestling or Sean

2019
02:26:31.440 --> 02:26:35.200
knows more about Pokemon. I feel
like that's a pretty good, you know,

2020
02:26:35.239 --> 02:26:43.639
way more. Okay. Then Dan, I said, Okay, well,

2021
02:26:43.639 --> 02:26:46.559
now this is just I know,
I don't know, but this seems

2022
02:26:46.600 --> 02:26:52.520
like a decent there's something there.
Yeah, like, what do we get

2023
02:26:52.559 --> 02:26:56.280
to do that thing where where like
we say a word and then Mike and

2024
02:26:56.360 --> 02:27:01.000
Dan had to race to see who
could get it to Disney Wrestling faster?

2025
02:27:01.319 --> 02:27:07.479
That was fun. Yeah? No, but but oh this does feel like

2026
02:27:07.559 --> 02:27:09.159
something though, and it comes from
a good place. It's just the spirit

2027
02:27:09.200 --> 02:27:13.040
of competition. It's not like Dan
takes competition to a place that gets ugly

2028
02:27:13.079 --> 02:27:33.559
and awkward and weird and terrible that
before I have I have something else deposit.

2029
02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:39.239
What about the idea that nothing is
fair? Even professional sports aren't fair.

2030
02:27:39.639 --> 02:27:41.520
Nothing is fair? So why not
just do it and have fun?

2031
02:27:41.879 --> 02:27:48.040
Right, nothing's fair? Yeah,
let's go, Yeah, let's do it.

2032
02:27:48.959 --> 02:27:52.799
Okay, Well we've got content for
next week. I'm looking forward to

2033
02:27:52.840 --> 02:28:01.680
it. Uh final email Ton from
the Bay Area'll why have the backyard games,

2034
02:28:03.040 --> 02:28:07.959
football, baseball, et cetera not
been a remade? Who would you

2035
02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:11.079
like to see do it in a
perfect world? And what would you like

2036
02:28:11.120 --> 02:28:18.879
to see in that game? I
was I never really played these the backyard

2037
02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:22.440
Yeah, who's the who's the really
good player in those games that people have

2038
02:28:22.479 --> 02:28:33.079
a like Alberto Sanchez or something.
Yeah. Yeah, Like like I was

2039
02:28:33.120 --> 02:28:37.440
watching the Pat mcavie Show and J. J. Watt was on there and

2040
02:28:37.479 --> 02:28:41.760
he was wearing a shirt with that
character from the Backyard Baseball and I was

2041
02:28:41.799 --> 02:28:43.520
like, huh, It's just it
was never in my orbit. It must

2042
02:28:43.520 --> 02:28:50.959
have been like a PC thing mostly
thing. These games were great, like

2043
02:28:50.399 --> 02:28:56.399
as a child who was alive during
and the age like that the target age

2044
02:28:56.399 --> 02:29:01.799
for these. I've seen these streamed
a lot. They're really good. The

2045
02:29:01.920 --> 02:29:05.959
reason why that they haven't been remade
is unbelievably boring. Is just that,

2046
02:29:05.079 --> 02:29:09.840
like the company that owns the rights
barely exists anymore, so like even if

2047
02:29:09.879 --> 02:29:13.879
someone wanted to buy the rights,
it is hard to find them to them,

2048
02:29:13.920 --> 02:29:18.079
buy the rights from them, just
do a clone. That's the thing

2049
02:29:18.079 --> 02:29:22.959
that I'm confused about, is why
someone hasn't. It's like a perfect It

2050
02:29:22.079 --> 02:29:26.959
screams mobile game to me in like
a non derogatory way, but it's like,

2051
02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:41.639
yeah, for sure, yeah,
like and they're great. When you

2052
02:29:41.680 --> 02:29:46.360
google backyard Sports, by the way, Johnboum dot com is the second result.

2053
02:29:46.040 --> 02:29:54.360
Yeah, the wiki. Yeah,
they're really great. I would I

2054
02:29:54.399 --> 02:29:58.680
think that EA and they won't do
this because they won't. But I really

2055
02:29:58.680 --> 02:30:03.159
do think think that EA should have
been the stewards of this kind of game.

2056
02:30:03.399 --> 02:30:07.280
There needs to be a like an
or like a game that is maybe

2057
02:30:07.319 --> 02:30:13.840
above this in the NFL NBA street
category. They don't even make those nuts.

2058
02:30:15.600 --> 02:30:22.799
Yeah, I like, yeah,
ArKade sports games on real devices should

2059
02:30:22.799 --> 02:30:26.000
come back. Yeah, I wish
they would get back to it. I

2060
02:30:26.239 --> 02:30:28.680
know they keep trying stuff that's like
here, it's like NBA JAM. I'm

2061
02:30:28.680 --> 02:30:31.719
like, yeah, but a lot
of times they just aren't good enough.

2062
02:30:31.760 --> 02:30:33.559
If they were better games, people
would care more. So. Yeah,

2063
02:30:33.559 --> 02:30:37.120
it must be. It must be
tough trying to make one of those games

2064
02:30:37.319 --> 02:30:41.280
when the the ones that you are
using as inspiration or the basis were so

2065
02:30:41.600 --> 02:30:46.520
good. Yes, Like the idea
of doing a spiritual successor to NFL Blitz

2066
02:30:48.000 --> 02:30:52.760
is like an impossibility, right,
Like it almost Yeah, it can almost

2067
02:30:52.879 --> 02:30:56.079
exist exclusively in our collective mind.
Yeah, like it can't even be real.

2068
02:30:56.479 --> 02:31:03.479
Yeah, it's how I look at
that. Oh. Apparently, Apparently,

2069
02:31:03.559 --> 02:31:07.600
on their New Heights podcast, Travis
and Jason Kelsey said they were looking

2070
02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:11.479
into who has the rights for the
backyard football and backyard baseball games because they

2071
02:31:11.479 --> 02:31:15.200
want to bring them back. Oh
they want to be a hope they find

2072
02:31:15.280 --> 02:31:18.479
the guy who did this. They
probably they probably could make that happen,

2073
02:31:18.559 --> 02:31:22.159
right, You just put those characters
in there, those celebrities there, and

2074
02:31:22.479 --> 02:31:30.319
there that such a there's there's such
they're So you would be able to do

2075
02:31:30.399 --> 02:31:31.600
this correctly, which is to say
that, like you would be able to

2076
02:31:31.639 --> 02:31:37.360
get the NFL PA and the NBA
PA, like you get these player associations

2077
02:31:37.879 --> 02:31:41.840
to license the likenesses of the players, so like you would be able to

2078
02:31:41.879 --> 02:31:45.639
have like a yes, you would
have some kids, but then you would

2079
02:31:45.639 --> 02:31:48.280
also have these like licensed adults,
and I think it would work perfect.

2080
02:31:48.319 --> 02:31:52.360
Like there's never I don't know,
it seems silly this so many things you're

2081
02:31:52.360 --> 02:31:58.440
like money left on the table,
but like a sports game for kids seems

2082
02:32:00.600 --> 02:32:05.959
like a fucking no brainer. I
know, I know. Yeah, sometimes

2083
02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:15.000
weird shit just like gets left.
Oh yeah, dangling for whatever reason less

2084
02:32:15.000 --> 02:32:18.280
so a little bit, let's think
overall, But I don't think there's trip.

2085
02:32:18.680 --> 02:32:22.920
The participation in sports has trended down
for everything except for lacrosse for some

2086
02:32:22.959 --> 02:32:28.239
reason, mostly because lacrosse was so
small that anytime someone had no place to

2087
02:32:28.280 --> 02:32:31.040
go. But uh but uh yeah, exactly so uh and then uh,

2088
02:32:31.319 --> 02:32:35.239
you'll be happy to hear that the
coaches. When you ask high school coaches

2089
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:37.879
what's happening, they're like, well, there's no reset button in sports,

2090
02:32:37.920 --> 02:32:43.040
and these kids grew up playing video
games. And it's like, I wonder

2091
02:32:41.399 --> 02:32:46.079
why the involvement numbers are going down
and they always say they always say reset

2092
02:32:46.159 --> 02:32:48.680
button too. It's like, bitch, there has a been a reset button.

2093
02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:50.760
What are you talking about it?
Right? So old? Well,

2094
02:32:50.799 --> 02:32:54.840
because they were forty when ANYS came
out, I guess, and just understand

2095
02:32:54.879 --> 02:32:58.120
what a reset button does. It's
like, that's not reset in the stage.

2096
02:32:58.159 --> 02:33:00.559
That would be like you're starting a
whole new thing. You guys don't

2097
02:33:00.559 --> 02:33:07.879
know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's very upsetting to hear. I

2098
02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:11.239
think it's a combination of a lot
of things. I also think there's a

2099
02:33:11.239 --> 02:33:16.159
lot of parents who are fucking disaster. I'm gonna go ahead and say that

2100
02:33:16.959 --> 02:33:20.239
just based off the anecdotal exposure I've
had with soccer and hockey parents. Yeah,

2101
02:33:20.680 --> 02:33:26.959
they need to be hugged. How
frequently are you like blow like,

2102
02:33:28.040 --> 02:33:31.360
I guess blown away? I guess
by like the way that I can't imagine

2103
02:33:31.879 --> 02:33:35.639
having a kid at a thing and
then being around a parent who like completely

2104
02:33:35.680 --> 02:33:41.520
is missing the point of your child
being in sports. So I will say

2105
02:33:41.520 --> 02:33:52.639
this div is a hockey and soccer, and hockey is so wildly popular where

2106
02:33:52.639 --> 02:34:01.000
I live that you are able to
almost position and sort of manipulate the trajectory

2107
02:34:01.600 --> 02:34:07.399
so that you can find the normal
po with right like there is I will

2108
02:34:07.600 --> 02:34:09.799
I will say, I hope this
hasn't come back to bite me in the

2109
02:34:09.840 --> 02:34:16.040
as, but there is most certainly
a psychotic level that you can aspire to

2110
02:34:16.639 --> 02:34:20.920
where you're practicing five days a week
and you're playing four games a weekend,

2111
02:34:20.280 --> 02:34:26.959
and we the back of our family
will not be absolutely in that right so

2112
02:34:26.120 --> 02:34:31.280
like and but that's the thing,
Like, not everyone has the luxury of

2113
02:34:31.319 --> 02:34:33.799
like being able to find that place, I think, And it's a big

2114
02:34:33.840 --> 02:34:37.239
turn off. Like if if the
Triple A team is the only team in

2115
02:34:37.280 --> 02:34:41.079
your area, that's it. That's
what you're stuck with and your your you

2116
02:34:41.079 --> 02:34:46.559
you have to deal with the psychosy. But I mean they're everywhere. No

2117
02:34:46.639 --> 02:34:58.079
one is ever completely uh sectioned off
from all Nowhere is nowhere safe, but

2118
02:34:58.200 --> 02:35:01.000
you can rest assured you are safe
here at Giant bomb. What do we

2119
02:35:01.040 --> 02:35:05.879
got cooking and popping off the rest
of the week. Yeah, there will

2120
02:35:05.879 --> 02:35:09.520
be a Blake Club, I believe
tomorrow, so tune in for that.

2121
02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:13.719
Super Dan sixty four will return.
There will be some other stuff popping off

2122
02:35:13.719 --> 02:35:16.520
probably tomorrow. We'll see games mornings
of course the rest of this week.

2123
02:35:16.799 --> 02:35:20.680
On Thursday, we're playing Hell Divers
too. We're gonna have the Hell Divers

2124
02:35:20.680 --> 02:35:22.840
two going. There's gonna be an
update for that game. We're gonna check

2125
02:35:22.840 --> 02:35:28.000
in on that see it for ourselves. Apparently the machines, the automate automatons

2126
02:35:28.000 --> 02:35:30.760
have been defeated, so we'll go
see what that's all about. Uh.

2127
02:35:30.799 --> 02:35:35.280
And then on Friday we're gonna the
UPF could be a little bit different.

2128
02:35:35.319 --> 02:35:37.559
I think I'm gonna set up a
Fallout game with a bunch of mods and

2129
02:35:37.600 --> 02:35:41.520
make someone play it and we'll see
how that goes. We're not gonna tell

2130
02:35:41.520 --> 02:35:43.639
them what mods are in there.
They're just gonna play it and see what

2131
02:35:43.680 --> 02:35:46.959
happens. So that'll be UPF and
we'll have a BCR as well. We'll

2132
02:35:46.959 --> 02:35:48.120
figure out what that's all about.
That was a good one last week though.

2133
02:35:48.120 --> 02:35:52.680
I had fun doing that Console draft
always do, always could do another

2134
02:35:52.760 --> 02:35:58.879
draft, another mount rushmore. Oh
what's that? And the show turn it?

2135
02:36:00.000 --> 02:36:05.360
I mean, don't worry. We're
also gonna dump. We're also gonna

2136
02:36:05.440 --> 02:36:07.559
dump. I believe Kurt and Lavina
is gonna be joining us for the dump

2137
02:36:07.600 --> 02:36:13.920
truck this week. We are also
going to host a discord Q and A.

2138
02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:16.479
It's been a minute since we did
one of those, so I believe

2139
02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:22.879
that's scheduled, uh for Thursday at
twelve thirty. I just have to sync

2140
02:36:22.959 --> 02:36:26.120
up with Jen on that and make
sure we're all set twelve thirty Eastern time.

2141
02:36:26.879 --> 02:36:28.440
Uh. That'll be fun. Come
hang out there. That's always a

2142
02:36:28.440 --> 02:36:33.600
goofy little chat and yeah, we'll
be pecking away at the rest of the

2143
02:36:33.639 --> 02:36:39.399
week. Dan and Jen should be
back tomorrow. Unless Jen is in the

2144
02:36:39.440 --> 02:36:50.520
back of some pit bosses office for
his life negotiating some sort of scout transfers

2145
02:36:50.000 --> 02:36:56.559
for his freedom. That's gonna do
it for the Giant BombCast. Thank you

2146
02:36:56.600 --> 02:37:01.159
so much to Jeff, to Nikki, to shaw On. I'm Jeff as

2147
02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:05.040
well. We'll see you next week. Have a great rest of your week.

2148
02:37:05.079 --> 02:37:31.520
Everyone, Take care, Bye bye,

