Wow, wonderful stuff from David Knight. Remember you can get the Christmas album
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and remember anything you contribute over at David Knight's Rock Finn channel, everything
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you know, it just is an amazing and wonderful pleasure to be here with
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on the backside of Twitter at guard Goldsmith for the kind words from yesterday's show.
I really appreciated that. And I want to say a big couple words
of appreciation of Karen Carpenter and the Rock Finn Chat. She mentions that satisfaction
of teaching. One day, I gave a lecture about heart attacks to second
graders because they were curious about it. I drew pictures of the circuitory system.
It was spur of the moment, but what a hoot. The students
were enthralled and some also some great from Wes Robertson talking about what Greg Abbott
can do. Abbott can end the illegals coming through his state anytime constitutionally just
by nullifying federal dictates. Well again, you know, I hope that the
outlines they gave about the Kentucky resolutions. And James Madison also in letters mentioned
that it's supposed to be a state purview. That eighteen seventy five cha Long
decision is as bad as the dred Scott decision, as bad as the Roe
v. Wade decision. It warps the perception of the constitution and so many
people start to think that that's the way it should be. And then of
course everybody starts to argue over the one size must fits all. So very
interesting stuff. I really want to thank everyone in the rumble chat as well.
That one person says, too bad Bitchhoot doesn't have the money behind them
that Rumble has. Bitchhoot has always been solid. I like Bitchoot as well.
And high Boost mentioned Trump and he says Trump used Facebook in twenty sixteen
to win, but it was used against him in twenty twenty. Kind of
well, yeah, you know, I think it's going to be very interesting
to see what happens in this next election. But I have no vested interest
in this whatsoever. I do want to welcome, however, a man who
has been watching this longan than I have, and has been one of my
big heroes for a long time. He's our guest now on the David Night
Show. He is James Bouvart, coming to us from just outside the swamp
of Washington, d C. On The David Knight Show. James, welcome
to the program. I see the symbol for you. I think we've got
audio and welcome and congratulations on your new book. Last, writes James Beauvard.
Thanks very much, thanks for having me on, having me back on,
and thanks for plugging the book. And yeah, I was I was
trying to figure out whether or not to use the video today and I thought
it might overwhelm viewers that have two photogenic guys on the screen. Well,
thank you, thank you, James. I don't have the beard. I
couldn't grow the beard the way you do. But yes, I know we
would probably count your blessings on the beard. Isn't that what isn't that what
the Ministry of Truth is all about. Nina Jenkovitch was there to stop us
handsome guys from getting too much airtime. Right, I don't know entirely what
she was supposed to do, but she was. I mean, she was
great for comic relief. I mean, it's always good to have to have
a woman who's whose videos included who asking who exactly? Kind of filled the
blank to become rich and powerful. Yes, I wouldn't use that verb because
you've got a family friendly so but it was great to see online. It's
like, you know, I guess you know the Biden White House, when
they were vetting her for that appointment, forgot to ask one important question,
does she sing? Maybe they'll have to put that on the application for him
from now on. Right. Well, the nice thing is, once they
booted her, everybody thought the Ministry of Truth was done, but it wasn't.
They brought in Michael Chertoff. Well yeah, I mean, it's just
it's amazing that he would have any credibility in washing after the things he's done
and the lobby lobbing he's done. But uh, no, I mean you've
heard I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, I heard Jim that
he wants people to pass through an airport scanner before they can get online to
speak. I think that's his new gimmick just to saw more scanners. Yeah,
well, you know, you've got to find some use for those damn
airport scanners. Hell haven't done any good as far as catching weapons and bombs.
So I mean, I've, you know, had I've had some memorable
experiences for those scanners with the TSA. And that's right. I've tried to
settle accounts. Hey, I tell you, James Bovard is our guest.
Folks go to Jimbouvard dot com and follow him at Jim Bouvard on Twitter.
And the new book is great, and I know that you wrote about your
recent experiences with the TSA. It hasn't changed. It's not any more secure.
We know that every few years they would have their studies on how many
bomb like materials would go through, and even ABC News would do their own
studies. It never changed, despite the increasing budget, despite the daily,
minute by minute, person by person encroachments into the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth
Amendment, the sixth Amendment, the Eighth Amendment, so many things. And
that lets us look at Last Rights. And I want to bring this up
to all the audience, everybody. Last Rights the latest from Dames Beauvard and
has a picture of the Capitol building with the razor wire and the fence just
in the foreground, and of course on the back. I showed this at
the start of the show. Everybody, the armed goons protecting our liberties,
isn't that? Oh, I'm sorry, they're protecting the politicians from we people.
Tell us are free. James, You've got a lot in this book.
First of all, I know you've been working on this for a long
time. How long ago did you start to think, Okay, I'm going
to get this book out, because this is a crucial time to have this
book released shortly before COVID. Actually, I was trying to tie a lot
of things together that I've been writing about for years. I mean, this
is this is a flashback to nineteen ninety three, ninety four when Lost Rights
came out, the book that preceded this it's and it was a round up
of a lot of the federal, state, and local atrocities and abuses back
then, and folks said I was much too cynical, and it's kind of
like, you know, I don't think so. But it's sad to look
back in the nineteen nineties almost as like if it was a Golden Era for
freedom. Oh, isn't that It's bizarre, isn't it. I mean,
it's like it's like going, it's going. It's like going from one abusive
relationship into a world relationship. And let you know, and then you say
yourself, gee, I had it better off when I was, you know,
when I was getting beat up this way. It's ridiculous. It's like
going. It's like drowning in water versus drawing a quicksand it gets worse.
It just gets worse. And and you know, they keep using these rationales
where the government gets caught at something. You know, we see James Clapper
testifying in front of Ron Wyden, and Widen already knows that they're surveiling people
because they've got this snowed in information. It just hasn't gone public yet,
and all of a sudden boom, what happens, he asked him, is
the NSA collecting data on people? No? And then Ryden gives it.
Widen gives him a chance to get out of possibly perjuring himself, which he
just did. And he says no, And he said, well not knowingly,
Like no, you were doing it knowingly. That's what the is about.
That's what the whole pie of thing is about. And it's not just
Section seven O two. It's a very concept of it's not in the Constitution.
It's strictly prohibited. And the prohibition doesn't mean that it only applies to
the government invading Americans' rights. It's anybody's rights. They don't have the ability
to scan somebody in Sweden, just like they don't have the ability to scan
somebody in New Hampshire. They just don't have the power. It's amazing to
me, James. You have so many things here. Can I run through
a little bit? Thank you so much. Pardon the spectacles here. I
just wanted to make sure I look like Charlie Robinson, the great Charlie Robinson,
a great podcaster, and so in the book Everybody just released from the
Libertarian Institute, and I hope you will check it out at the Libertarian Institute
website. As you mentioned here, you have in the introduction Tyranny Comes to
main Street. Americans today have the freedom to be freedom in quotes and this
is very very important to me, James. And I'm so glad that having
you know, as a teenager I picked up one of your books. You
know, I'm like ten years behind you or something like that, and I'm
like I like this guy, and now I know you, and I'm like
I like this guy. And you always Yeah, you keep getting the bat
on the leather, you keep hitting it man, It's great. Okay,
that's a new Hampshire phrase. Yeah, absolutely is. My daddy used to
play for the Red Sox, their farm team. Yeah, yeah, they
used to do. They were called the Hooligan Squad. It was before World
War Two and he never Yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. Americans today
you say, have the quote freedom end quote to be fleeced, groped,
wire tapped, injected, censored, ticketed, disarmed, beaten, vilified,
detained, and maybe shot by government agents. Politicians are hell bent on protecting
citizens against everything except Uncle Sam. Ah. It's that wonderful social contract,
isn't it? As America? Is America becoming a cage keeper democracy where voters
merely ratify the latest demolition of their rights and liberties. And you cover in
this book. It's not just a wide array. It's as if you're using
a logical syllogism from point A down to point fifteen. What letter is that?
You know? M something like that you talk about seizure fever, the
war on gun owners, licensed to kill, the COVID crackdown, catastrophe,
School's gone wild, ten thousand czars, subsidies and subjugation dominate, and yeah,
be careful what you wish for. States and corporations dominate, intimidate,
control, taxation and tyranny. No place to hide, see no evil democracy,
mindless, Ministry of truth, ah, the Singing Singing Spirit, Spirit
of Nanny Jenkowitz, American Gestapo, Ronamock, and Last Chance for Liberty.
Concluding things with tons of endnotes. So, James, you put this together.
It's a lot of work. In addition to the articles you write.
I don't know how many articles you write every week. Do you have a
certain set number that you put out every week? James, No, I'm
you know, with the book being done, I'm aspiring to have three or
four out for a week. But I have a question for you on the
book. Is that a paperback or a hardbacked version? This is the hardcover?
Okay, okay, because I haven't seen that. I was trying to
find it. I mean Amazon was supposed to have it and they, you
know, I don't know, But so where did you order that from.
I can't remember if I got this through the Libertarian Institute website. I went
to Amazon just so I could get it shipped over more quickly. Yeah,
well, you know, it looks good. I'm just I was trying to
get some hardbacks, and I've got paperbacks, but I will track those down.
Oh, this is absolutely fantastic, James. I got a few of
the items I'd like to discuss with you, and I've bookmarked each one far
away. Okay, we've got chapter three, the war on gun owners.
Of course, I was talking about the way that so called red flag laws
or contrary to half the Bill of Rights, punishment without any trial, Second
Amendment, third Amendment, fourth Amendment, fifth Amendment, sixth Amendment. Then
we've got license to kill. And this is really something else. It goes
back to the nineties, a lot of different things with the Justice Department,
and how so called reform was never actually instituted, and as they often do,
the reforms that they claim actually give them permission to do even worse things
to us. Then we're talking about the American Gestapo run amok, that is
the FBI. So if you'd like to pick any one of those for our
audience, and if anyone has any questions for James Bouvard, put it in
the Rock Fin or Rumble Chad. And if you're watching on David Knight's twitter
feed, I can also check those in a little while, but we'll go
with Rockfin and Rumble Chad. James, is there any one of those you'd
like to hit first? You know, I don't have any specific preference on
the FBI the American Gestapo. That was a phrase from President Truman right in
his diary, I think in late nineteen forty five, maybe forty six.
He said he was worried that the FBI was becoming a gestapo and that America
did not need that. That was just after the defeat of Nazi Germany.
Yeah, I see here. We want no gestapo or secret police. FBI
is trending in that direction nineteen forty five, wrote yep, yep. And
it's so he was aware of the damage of the danger and other politicians have
had some very eloquent statements on that over the subsequent decades. But the FBI,
you know, still has vast unchecked power. The FBI tried to throw
the twenty sixteen presidential election to Hillary Clinton. The FBI had a huge role
in helping Joe Biden win the twenty twenty election, and I don't know,
you know, there hasn't been any effective effort that I know of to put
a lease on the FBI for the twenty twenty twenty four presidential elections. So
you know, I don't see how I don't see how democracy survives this.
Well, you know, it's amazing because you can roll back so fluidly in
conversation to some of those things, and every one of those things you mentioned
the twenty sixteen right, So one of the things on which I was reporting
an MRCTV James was the so called DNC hack. Right. We know that
the DNC didn't give the computer to the FBI. Initially, they gave it
to CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike run by this guy Aparamov or something like that. I
remember the Atlantic Council. They came out with their report, which is absolutely
ridiculous. Bill Benni has mentioned that there's no way that the data could have
been transferred as quickly as it was transferred if it was done through phone lines.
It had to have been done on site with data sticks, flash drives.
And then this guy apara vamach or whatever comes out and says, oh,
it was the Russians, and that entire Russian Russians interference Russian thing carried
through as the Portman Murphy bill was circulating in twenty sixteen and got pasted in
that last NDAA that Obama signed in December of twenty sixteen, which created the
Portman Murphy Countering Foreign Propaganda Act, which helped give a lot of this money
to places like NewsGuard and Election Guard and all these different agencies that we found
were actually being funded by the FEDS. Simultaneous to that, we see the
FEDS now hiding information about like the Hunter Biden laptop and literally reaching out to
the New York Times to say, don't talk about this thing that we know
the hard drive had the chain of possession already set up. They knew it
was authentic, but they didn't want people to know about this, and that
is that's one of the softer things. But it had incredible implications, and
I was amazed that many people were unaware of the FBI's role in that.
Yeah, I mean, that's something the New York Post did great work on
and they have dogged that issue very effectively. It's it's frustrating to see how
much yes, the government still gets away with and talking to folks who were
moderates, liberals, democrats, or even undecided, their knowledge base on these
scandals is very and it's sort of like caught under conservative about the torture scandals,
like what that never happened? Right, right, So it's just you
know, and this is part of how the how the outrages snowball and you
know, they turned to precedence and there's almost no way to put a leash
on them. It's amazing, you know, we know that prior to say
this contemporary era we might be looking out of twenty sixteen, there were all
sorts of problems with the FBI, as we know, you know, whether
it was the Black Panthers, Martin Luther King Junior, and so many of
the different things that were instituted with the creation of the FBI right on through.
It's always been very, very sketchy. It's always been something where the
FBI on the surface carried this sort of mantle of pride and all this is
and a lot of the guys we go into the FBI think I'm going to
do the right thing. But there have always been very dark factions to the
FBI, and a lot of questions constitutionally about well, is it really excusable
to create a police agency for crimes that might happen across borders or is it
really just the maximum that the Feds would do would be to facilitate extradition between
states. And that's sort of the fundamental question about the FBI. But there
are other things that have happened recently. We've seen the FBI, and of
course the Department of Education being implicated at the Justice Department as well in possibly
investigating concerned parents who go to school board meetings and investigating Catholics who are traditional
and Catholic masses. Would you like to amplify on some of the other things
that you discovered as you wanted to put this together or throughout your life some
of the things that stand out for you about the FBI and just how inflammatory
it has become or how bad it was in the past. Yeah. Ah,
that's a very good question. The GIPT. Going back to the the
FBI and the Catholics, it came out earlier this year that the that the
FBI in Richmond other places had a secret campaign to infiltrate church services to quote
identify the bad Catholics. And you know, I don't. I'm not comfortable
at all with the FBI setting themselves up to be secret judges of who is
and who is not a good Christian or a good Catholic. You know,
this is you talk about a Pandora's box. And this is something it wasn't
just one knit with FBI agent who did this. This is something which got
approved at multiple levels. But one of the things that sticks in my mind
most vividly on the FBI was Ruby Ridge. You had the FBI send their
snipers out there, You had the FBI uh you know, the FBI snipers
were given an order to shoot to kill, basically shoot on site for the
adults that were being besieged agents. And then the FBI sniper guns down Vicky
Weavers. She's holding her baby in the cabin door. That age lawn.
Harrucci uh never was never received any sort of uh uh any sort of punishment.
In fact, he got advances after killing right yep. And so that
was something I wrote about and it was fasting to see the pushback. FBI
Director Lewis Free condemned me in public for for slandering FBI agents and the FBI
itself. But I later got hold of a five hundred page confidential Justice Department
report on their analysis of ruby Ridge, and the Jests Department had many of
the same condemnations of the FBI that I had as far as their their conduct
and their cover up of ruby Ridge. But you just said it publicly.
Uh, I said it publicly, and the FBI chief I thought that he
could squashed my reputation like a bug. Well you know you are you are
James Bouvard. And by the way, as we talk about last rites,
I want to mention I remember at that time Ruby Ridge. G Gordon Lettie
was doing his radio show. Oh he was great, Yeah, and he
was excellent on that Ruby Ridge issue and he would mention what you were talking
about. I remember him talking about your work on his show. And I
got to meet him a number of years ago, and he was very,
very nice to me. And uh, you know, I obviously going to
prison after the Knicks and Nixon issues and things like that, but he really
did a splendid job talking about Loanharreyucci, Ruby Ridge and Randy Waver and his
family. And I really appreciate the fact that you still you stood up for
those people. You know, David Knight was down there with UH, with
the UH down at Bundy Ranch when the Bureau of Land Management was trying to
wipe out the Bundy Ranch and take the over. They were sabotaging the water
pipes and so on. David was there at the standoff as the snipers had
their guns trained on them. He was right there. There's a section in
the book on the Bundy Ranch case and the FBI just just it's it's incredible,
and I don't it's it gets me choked up a little bit sometimes to
think about just how far people have it. You know, you get these
little, these little bubble ups of people standing up for what is appropriate.
They're standing up for their rights. These people at Bundy Ranch had a land
agreement when Nevada was a territory. And as I've mentioned, there is no
provision for the United States government to run land other than Washington, d C.
Territories and militaried garrisons. And as you know, when according to the
Constitution, territories become states, they're supposed to enter with, as they say,
all the rights and privileges of any other state, and there is no
mandate that they have to seed land to the government. And even if they
had to seed land, even if they wanted to seed land to the federal
government, the federal government has no provision in the Constitution to manage that land.
So all these areas Grand Escalante as I mentioned yesterday and David's show,
or the Bears, the Bear's Feet, or the Anwar, anything like that,
all these areas where they've opened up national parks or closed off anthracite to
help the lip Bo group for the Clinton administration, any of those things,
those were supposed to be up to the states. And since the Bundees had
an agreement from that territory of Nevada before it became a state, they were
grandfathered in, their family had grazing rights, and Feds were trying to wipe
them out. And it's amazing to think that the pop media could portray people
who were just trying to mine their own business, were just sitting there who
got invaded by federal agents, the FBI, the BLM with their tax funded
guns. They can portray the the Bundies as the flipped out aggressors, as
the wild gun totals and they were just defending their property and that sort of
I love to correct the record on that sort of thing, especially for peaceful
people like that. James. Yeah, and it was fascinating to see the
evolution of the federal court cases and the federal judges on that issue. Yeah,
there was a I think Judge Navro maybe Gloria Navarro. Yeah, it
was. She started out very much leading in favor of the FBI and the
FEDS, but by the time, at a certain point, there were a
number of very late revelations the FEDS made that blew their credibility to pieces,
and she basically threw the case out of court and gave the FBI a very
thorough cussing. Yeah, the discovery process there on every one of those was
so important. And of course, you know, I think James, it
harkens back to back to the days when they would try to have the kangaroo
courts during the Revolutionary era to take people away from their local juries, and
they you know, they try them up in Nova Scotia. That was one
of the things you wanted to have. Jury of your peers. People hear
this information. Even judges sometimes will stand up and say you know what,
this is just wrong. Uh and and and yeah, good for Judge Navarro.
I was I was really pleased about that, James, any other thoughts
in the FBI. I'd love to talk to you a little bit about something
tied to the FBI, that the war on drugs and things like civil asset
forfeiture. If that's problem, sure, go for it. Okay, Well,
let's let's talk a little bit about the so called war on drugs,
you know, starting up with Lyndon Johnson, but even before that, certain
statutes, a lot of the old jazz musicians finding that they, you know,
were running into problems with the law. We've got an idea that somehow
the person accused with some crime against others just for possessing a substance, which
is not a violent act of aggression against anyone, just the possession of a
substance or the sale to a voluntary, willing participant of a substance like drugs,
whatever it might be, that somehow, first any state agency, agency
of the state, in its normative sense, should be involved in stopping that
person from engaging in that peaceful activity. But on the constitutional level, the
superstructure of this on a national and historical level for the United States. James
Boulevard, We've got the so called war on drugs that has incentivized local police
forces, and even the Obama administration threw down a smoke screen with Eric Holder
in there, and you talk about some of this, some of Eric Holder's
background on this, the so called war on drugs, the seizure of people's
property, and how it incentivizes the local police to engage in these types of
raids because they can make tons of money, they get to keep people stuff.
Can you talk a little bit about the concept of civil asset forfeiture and
how you approach it in last rites James Boulevard. Yeah, civil asset forfeiture
means that the government come in and confiscate your property based on a mere allegation
that it might have been misused at some time in the past. And the
there was I think a dea agent who would say that the great thing about
asset forfeiture is is not up to us to prove anything and so so so,
the if a government agent stops you walking down the street and he says,
let me take a look at your wallet, and so he pulls he
pulls out your cash and then a drug dog comes up. The drug dog
alerts to the drugs supposedly on the on your currency boom, that's sufficient for
the government to seize your currency. However, the vast majority of American currency
has micro traces of drugs and sufficient to trigger a knine alert, and judges
have known that for thirty years. Judges have been condemning this a canine dog
currency seizure as a bunch of crap, going back to probably even before Bill
Clinton's presidency, right, but you know it's still there, and it's it's
almost like a Monty Python tests of whether or not a woman is a witch
if she weighs more than a duck, so she's made of wood. That's
it. That's it. Got a drowner. Maybe she was eating crunchy frogs.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's something I've always avoided.
Yes, yes, and James, let's I I mentioned this before you came
on. I've done this on my Liberty Conspiracy Show. But I'd like to
show this for the David Knight audience as I fill in for David Knight.
James Bovard is our guest, and the David Knight Show, everybody and place
your questions in Rock Finn Chat after we show this, get David's thoughts about
the conflict, the seeming by polar problem between the so called war on drugs
unconstitutional of course, and the so called war on terror, which has seen
such a destruction of so many of the rights that are supposed to be protected
by the US Bill of Rights. And James, I'd like to turn right
now to this. There might be a little ad that pops up. This
is from twenty years ago. It's Heraldo rivera on the ground in Afghanistan,
as US soldiers guarded the heroin poppy crop turn the fact that the Jerial government
is here, it is going, and as the opium trade the Taliban is
using it to intimidate the population. Joining us from Kalman Province is Roaldo Rivera.
Good morning to you, HAROLDO. Tell us what you've seen during your
days there in Afghanistan, Hi Allison, Dave ben Clayton. Yes, in
some ways, the Marines brilliantly executed invasion Amarja, this town in the middle
of Helman Province was the easy bar hard work. Now is governing this province
and province, as you suggest, that has become addicted to opium in many
many ways. That is the principal crop that is being grown here. The
Taliban lend the farmers the money they are indebted to the Taliban, they have
to grow the opium. Now, the Marines, in their success, are
in a sense of victim of their success because now the population is you know,
they have these opium fields and we are tolerating it. We are tolerating
the cultivation of the opium because we know that if we were to destroy it
now, the population would turn against the Marines and it would be a real
security risk. Let me introduce Lieutenant Connel Brian Christmas. He's the commanding officer
of the third Battalion, six Marines. Really a wonderful group of Marines here.
I know that you care deeply about this contradiction, the fact that here
you have one of the best fighting forces in the world ever mounted and in
the sense you're watching as this opium is being grown. I know it grinds
at your gut. How do you deal with it? What are you doing
about her? Well, frankly, this is part of the culture. So
while my grind in my gut, it's what they do. So it's very
interesting James, I bring that up, of course, knowing that they were
unconstitutionally there. Ron Paul offered a declaration of war. He got three votes.
Of course, he was not going to vote for it himself. And
I thought that it was important to bring that up because we have this bipolar
situation of the US government telling us they have this so called war on drugs,
then invading a foreign nation, occupying it for two decades, and as
they're occupying it, seeing the opium coming out of there increase and the proportion
of the world's trade going up to near ninety seven percent coming from Afghanistan.
Now, James, just a few weeks ago, I was reading about how
the Taliban, and again I'm not in favor of one group destroying the crops
of anybody, but Afghanistan is no longer number one on the export of opium
hoppy products. It's now something like me on mar or something like that.
They've dropped because the Taliban did get in there, and rather than doing what
the government told us they would do, which would be to take over the
fields and run them themselves, they're destroying the fields. And it is amazing
to me because we got people who are accustomed to the United States being in
Afghanistan, even some military members. I've spoken to them, and I've been
at airports. I've seen them in their fatigues and I say, oh,
are you heading out somewhere. They're like, yeah, I'm going to Afghanistan,
going to Iraq. And I say, listen, if you don't want
to answer this question, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, that's okay.
I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable. But I know you swear an
oath to the Constitution. Yes, you will answer to constitutional orders. Yes,
there is no declaration of war. The only way the president can send
troops out constitutionally is if there's a declaration of war. How do you feel
knowing that you swore an oath to the Constitution but they're sending you out in
a breach of the content institution? And their answer always is well, I
do what they tell me. And I think that that is sad and of
course very frightening. And I hope that, you know, I don't want
to be too explicit on it, but I hope that people will remember this
is the type of policy what we see right here on the screen, This
is the type of policy. You get when people don't try to keep tabs
on their own ethics and what is right and wrong and contradictory based on government
policy and what they were doing there. I wonder, James, if anybody
could say, gee, you know you are guarding those fields. Now,
we're going to come in and do civil asset forfeiture on the US military.
Now, because of course you're involved with a crime, we can just take
your jeeps. You think they would do that, James, Well, I
think it might be difficult to collect if there is something. And I don't
know how long you can stay with us, James, but I do want
to ask a couple questions from Rocky Excellent. Excellent, So let's head over
to Rockfin and rumble chat and and see what you have to say. Everybody
here on the David Knight Show. And here are some of the points that
are brought up over at rumbull A, rock Fin, we're seeing okay,
they're talking about Heraldo Rivera. Now, yes, someone brought up the plandemic.
The pandemic and the lockdowns. Love for you to be able to address
some questions on that regarding civil liberties. James and Michael Desalvio says we should
just grow it here in the United States. Very good point and hal nine
thousand Watson, I'm sure you understand the reference there, James. A little
dig on IBM says, oh American way, and they also say no war
on farmer drugs. Those are subsidized and protected. Let's talk about the locker
downs for second. James, you saw what was going on, and then
we'll talk about the Capitol Building maybe January sixth, because you visited there and
just seen the stark in your face police state appearance and practice there and how
things have changed. Do you have any thoughts about the United States government,
including various governors most of them, and legislatures, cracking down on people's civil
liberties, choosing essential non essential businesses, shutting things down with vaccine, passports,
the border. You've got to be jabbed, all these types of things.
There's a solid chapter in the book on the COVID crackdown craziness. You
know, I think one of the clearest lessons of the pandemic was it in
the long run, people have more inter fear from politicians than from a virus.
You have so many politicians who gave themselves dictatorial power. There were some
great Supreme Court dissents during the early part of the pandemic. I believe it
was just just as Gore such who was who was mocking the state of Nevada
for putting very very low limits for church attendance, but there were there was
a much larger limit for going to the casinos. And he said, it's
really difficult to reconcile the First Amendment with the He had a very good line
afterwards, trust me on that one. But there were lots of lots of
good court decisions, but the hysteria by the media, most of the media,
not all of it in favor of unlimited government power. And to see
how the media made saints out of people like Fuci in spite of all of
his contradictions, in spite of his flip flops, it was almost as if
groveling to the government was the only way people could be saved. Absolutely absolutely
right, and his elitist el signor approach, looking down his nose at people,
you know the way that you know. I wish ran Paul had gone
farther. I hope he continues to do more, not just questioning the gain
of function, but questioning any of the United States government involvement in the JAB
research. And of course they called those countermeasures, claiming they could do that
as a DoD type of preparatory thing against a potential attack by some foreign nation
developing a virus. But they're the ones who developed developed the virus and directly
through Eco Health Alliance, moving it from North Carolina over to Wuhan. So
all of it is unconstitutional. And here's the quote on page seventy seven,
folks from Neil Gorsuch, James writes in his new book Last Rites, available
at the Libertarian Institute, also on Amazon James Bouvard at Jim Bouvard on Twitter.
Politicians effectively promise to banish all COVID risk by obliterating individual liberty, but
according to the Centers for Disease Control, most Americans still contracted COVID despite quote
the greatest intrusions on civil liberties in the peacetime history of this country end quote.
As Neil Gorsuch declared in twenty twenty three, those lockdowns destroyed millions of
jobs, spurred hundreds of thousands of bankruptcies, and sparked far more suicides,
alcoholism, and drug abuse. Jim Everything from local schools and the teachers' unions
pushing for even more outside the school so called education. Everything from parents speaking
up about that sort of thing and the way that they were speaking up about
wokeism being detected by the DOE, then working with the National School Boards of
sieotiation to try to concoct a narrative that the concerned parents were somehow potential domestic
terror threats, and then getting the FBI to investigate them, which was halted
supposedly but not really when they got discovered, to the lockdowns, the JAB
passports, and as I've mentioned the use of HIPPA, the nineteen ninety six
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act supposedly to protect our privacy, but in between
pages seventy five and ninety five of the PDF, people can see how the
head of HHS can demand medical records from anybody who is medical in a medical
profession, who accepts Medicare Medicaid patients, to things like the people bringing in
things on trucks from Canada. You've got to be jabbed to all sorts of
things. You can prote for BLM, but you can't protest for your own
rights to protest unbelievable, unbelievable encroachments, and they cannot be forgotten. These
sorts of things have to be remembered, and they have to be fought.
They have to be fought on a local, state, and federal level.
And it just amazes me that so many people just allow these things to come
out and the lies. Fauci openly saying well, yes, I lied about
masks, and now I'm giving you a spurious reason is because I think they're
so important to have masks when everybody knows the masks aren't important. Just absurd.
What were some of the standout things as you went back on this,
because there's so much regarding the lockdowns and the lies from the federal government and
the constitutional side of things and people's rights. Well, there's yeah. I've
got a section in the COVID chapter on how the Biden White House brow beat
the FDA to force them to give full approval the pfizervacks for COVID because they
had to have that before Biden imposed his mandate for all Americans working for large
companies to get vaxed and to see the absolute contempt for anyone who did not
roll over in command. Shortly after Biden gave his speech in September twenty twenty
one on his vax mandates. Biden showed up on CNN and he said that
the only reason that people weren't getting vaxed because they want their freedom to kill
you with their COVID virus. And this is and these are lines which have
a lot never really showed up in the media radar screen. People do recall
that Biden promised that if you get the injection, then then you won't get
COVID. And that was a false statement even when he said it, because
the CDC knew there were a torrent of breakthrough cases, but the FEDS were
covering them up. But then the cover up collapsed absolutely, and we know
that even during the during the early testing, they then got rich of their
their control group, they end up giving them the injection. The whole thing
was absurd. And again, you know that goes towards my libertarian argument of
don't put your faith in the central authority that then can be gamed for rent
seekers to try to make sure their stuff gets through, especially when you get
that revolving door. And as we you know, we've discussed with your amazing
book, the Fair Trade fraud. Some of the biggest corporations have big incentives
to make sure that their competition is knocked out and they get either government contracts
or tariffs that will protect them or mandates to say you must use this product.
And this is exactly what Biden did. It's amazing to me to think
that people think that this sort of thing can be reformed without actually at least
questioning the very moral and ethical premises on which these people base their arguments that
you must be forced to pay for your own protection, because it doesn't work.
It never works that way. You're not going to get any satisfaction if
the agency that is supposed to protect you can just take your money at any
time. They're actually a protection racket, you know. And this is something
which compounds with the censorship stuff, because okay, so the Biden folks come
in and Biden was hell bent on persuading people that the COVID vaccines that were
had only emergency used approval were panaceas. And so what the Biden White House
did was cracked down on Twitter and Facebook and force them to suppress people making
jokes about COVID vaccines. If you only made some kind of meme on Twitter.
It's like boom, you were suppressed because it was like that. The
it was as if the COVID vaccines would only work if freedom of speech was
destroyed. That's absolutely right, James, absolutely right. And I'll point something
out to you. I don't know whether you've gotten to see his tweet today,
but Glenn Jacobs mentioned this on Twitter. I'll see if I can find
it, very very quickly on Twitter, he brought up I retweeted it that
since he is mayor of Knox County. Of course, he's the former pro
wrestler who played Kine and press funny here in New Hampshire bench Press five I
was. I was talking to him once at a conference. He told me
he's bench Press five twenty. Wow, are you kidding me? No?
No, holy So I'm not going to art with him. All right,
Well that's excellent. Yeah, let me see if I can find this tweet.
I don't I could paraphrase it, but let me see if I can
just give this to you, because he mentioned that Deborah Burks joined him and
other people who were involved with government in Tennessee in a closed door meeting,
and he mentioned that she told people that a lot of the information they had
about And I don't want to be too explicit here because I'd rather read what
he said, but I'll see if I can find it here. Yeah,
Burkes came to Knoxville in September twenty twenty. Is that the one? Yes,
that's it? Do you have it on yours? James? Yeah,
I have it on this Yeah, yeah, feel free to read that.
And yeah, yeah, Just quoting Glenn Jacobs, he says that in a
private meeting, Burks told us that bars and restaurants should be closed. She
admitted that the data didn't support it, but said it was necessary to quote
send a message about the seriousness of the virus. That's marketing, not science,
says Glenn Jacobs. Good job, Glenn, And he is a great,
great guy. In fact, I think we might have met either the
year you were up here for the U Libertarian Pork Porcupine Festival and Naomi Wolf
was here, or it might have been the year after that. But yeah,
a very good guy. And of course he lives down in Tennessee now.
And yeah, it's it's amazing to see the stuff that was going on,
and and Glenn fought tooth and nail to try to prevent those sorts of
mandates in his in Knox County, and good for him. And you know
it's it's you, you guys that come from the country, James, You're
still holding up the side for truth. It's redneck heritage. Yeah, and
you know I have some comments that were they're also showing comments now people are
watching us on Twitter. Previously it would be difficult to comment on Twitter.
You would have to go in, and just now people are commenting, I've
got thank you so much for watching the David Knight Show chs. Eight fourth
three on Twitter slash x and he mentioned Freeway Rick Ross and of course you
know the terrible things that happened to Freeway. Rick Ross cleaned up his life.
He says Trump might push for NATO to be closed as well. Well,
I wouldn't. Don't count your chickens before they hatch on that one,
my friend, I don't think they were going to see that happen, but
who knows. You can always be hopeful. And let's see over on rockfinchat
Scott Atlas had some very interesting things to say on the Highway or about Burke's
and Company. Scott Atlas was talking about the inner workings there and how he
kept getting shut out. They would start to have meetings even without him.
They wouldn't even call on him once they found out what his position would be,
he wouldn't be there. And yeah, there's so many, so many
interesting things to discuss, James, what do you think stands out as you
think about all the stories that you have in there, is there something that
you would want to really stress to the audience one or two items here before
we close things off with you, and thank you for much. If you
have to go, go for it. I mean, thanks, thanks for
all your kind comments, thanks for the excellent questions. I guess the the
over overview I'd want folks to take away is just the fundamental principle of what
happens when politicians and government officials can claim control of your life. And then
once they have that established, it's an unlimited series of often idiotic dictates.
I mean, you think of TSA, what you've got to do when you're
flying. You think of the COVID lockdowns. You think of a lot of
other federal mandates that are helping wreck this country, wrecking our prosperity. You
think of how the government is destroying our currency, and people in DC don't
give a damn because they're mostly all very well paid. Uh. And there's
just so much damage that the that the political class is inflicting on the nation,
and people need to fundamentally re evaluate how they look at the US government
and American politicians. It's interesting. I was commenting on Facebook someone in I'd
had some posts from a few years earlier and there so I said, I
was replying to someone and said that said something like, well, well,
I hope that we can whip the political rascals in the coming years. And
Facebook gave me a warning for saying talking about whipping the political rascals, and
I was thinking, Okay, I guess that they're not familiar with Thomas Paine
saying that politicians were the most rascally group of humanity. But there is there
is this conservative effort to make people deferential to the ruling class and to make
it seem like the real problem is that people who talk about whipping the political
rascals not all the lies and abuses from the Washington elite. James Beauvard at
Jim Beaulevard on Twitter, your website. Great conversation recently with Tom Woods there's
just awesome stuff. Libertarian Institute. Everybody check out the Libertarian Institute. This
is a Libertarian Institute publication. And James, before you go, I'll refer
once more to that page seventy seven because you have that quote in there,
and this should be sufficient. Just this statement should be enough for people to
say, Okay, I need to fight back for truth, because we knew
this was false the minute he said it. Quote. You're not going to
get COVID if you have these injections. July twenty first, twenty twenty one,
President Joe Biden, and you wrote the COVID nineteen pandemic opened up Pandora's
box of perils to freedom, prosperity, and health. Though judges torpedoed a
few despotic decrees, politicians fanned pandemic fears to seize nearly absolute power. Despite
pervasive abuses, not a single government officials spent a day in jail for the
most politically exploited pandemic in American history. And James, their excuses about so
called public health run not only in conjunction with the nonsense of that man,
Joe Biden, but run counter to individual liberty. It's a consequentialist view,
and they have excused the attack on everybody's individual rights. There's no such thing
as public health. There's only individual health. And the minute someone tells you,
I'm in a group of people, we're in charge, and we are
going to decide what the public health is and what we can do to you,
they're immediately negating their own argument because you are just a member, as
everybody else is of this group. And if they can threaten you, if
they can threaten you, they can threaten somebody else who's not threatened today,
they can threaten him tomorrow, because they're always going to be there. Yep.
And so this is so important this book. Thank you, Hey,
thanks so much for the kind words. Thanks for doing a great job of
pulling out some of the best parts of the book. I really appreciate that.
Gardner, you got it, James, you got it. You know
sometimes I get I just I just get so appreciative of your work. James,
any any thoughts, people, Just to mention where people can find you
as you head off and continue working for various places. I've been doing quite
a bit lately for the New York Posts. I've done some stuff for Meazes
is Sude, Brownstone, American Conservative Magazine, other places which I should not
be forgetting, but I am. Well, no problem, James. James
Bovard is with us, and James, next time I bring you on,
maybe i'll play that Rifleman's soundtrack in honor of a great show of a guy
came from good country, country stock and fought for for goodness. Or maybe
I'll play uh, there's a song called high on Drugs about the drug war
and uh all on drugs. Hey, Hey, I'm I was. I
was trying to follow something my boy scout image that you know that was well,
well, James, thank you so much. Next time we'll also talk
about some of your personal reflections as you watch around the Capitol and saw some
of the very things that people can see just by looking at the covery of
your book, the razorwiter on the Capitol. Just a quick comment. The
photo in the covers was one that I took when I was on a hike
going around the uh uh the capital when it was uh, you know,
thousands of National Guard troops with M sixteens and camouflage, and it was like,
you know, I felt like, ah, American democracy, it's finally
being been perfected. Well, how dare you engage in photography without a license,
you Charlottean You you evil man? Don't you understand? And how did
you put these pictures out on social media? Nina Jenkovitz is gonna sing at
you, my friend, you better watch out well, it'll serve me right.
Thanks so much, Turner, Thanks James James Bovart, Folks, thank
you James Wovart so much for being a guest on The David Knight Show.
And boy he calls up the Glenn Jacobs quote right off the bat. Great
stuff. Everyone, have a terrific day. As we round off the program
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seen anything worse than what looks like a cold slash flu. But I've seen
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