Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Poker Go Podcast.
My name is Donny Peters. I am joined by my man Tim Duckworth.
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a disaster. This country is a disaster. But let's get into the poker
stuff. On today's show, we're going to talk about the PGTPLO series that
just wrapped up. We'll also go into the PGT leaderboard because there are some
updates there. The World Series of Poker announced it's Tournament of Champions for the
w SP circuit, so we'll hit on that because there's been a lot of
pushback, i'll say, from people on social media. We got to hit
on the debut of the Savage Average. Hit took place recently at WPT Rolling
thunder, so we got that. An interesting prop bet came up between Robert
Koon and Sean Deeb that is currently underway. We'll hit on that. I
want to know if Tim would be able to do it himself. We got
to touch on the US Poker Open, which is going to start in just
a couple of days. I think we should do a little fantasy something,
Okay. I think we should do fantasy for all our series. Okay.
And then I guess we'll hit on the Texas Poker Open, so why not.
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Likely in December, could also be in January, not sure yet, but
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All right. First things first, PGTPLO series just wrapped up pretty good turnout.
Overall. We were missing some faces, but we also got some new
guys in the mix, so all in all, I think it was a
pretty good turnout from start to finish. You know, the the PLO guys,
I think they've held up their end of the bargain. The players,
I mean better than the mix game guys. That's what I'll say. That's
my hot take coming out of it. So, mixed game guys, I'm
looking at you. You're the ones who pushed for us to have two mixed
game series last season. You're the ones who pushed for us to have it
again this season. But the numbers haven't been that great. I mean they've
been good, but like not as good as the first one. Right,
Yeah, series has been holding a little bit more steady. Right. I'm
going to quickly run through the event winners and then Tim and I can just
kind of hit on more of them as we go. There were ten events
as part of the PGTPLO series. Alan Lee won the first one one hundred
and sixty one thousand dollars. Elis Parsonen finished pro and Absolute Plo Crusher won
the second event, which he defended his title from the series before PGTPLO series.
He took home one hundred and thirty one thousand dollars plus another thirty two
five hundred dollars in bounties. Daniel Negranu won event number three, continues his
hot year one hundred and forty seven thousand dollars for him winning event number three
Sammy Sippola won event number four for two hundred and forty thousand dollars. Ronald
Kaiser, the Dutchman who now lives out in la won event number five for
eighty thousand dollars plus eighty thousand dollars in bounties. That was a progressive bounty.
Dylan Wiseman, when we talk about the PGT leaderboard coming up, we're
going to talk about him because he is the top dog. Spoiler alert.
He won at number six for just under two hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
Sammy Sipple up back in the Winter circle for event number seven, took home
one hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars and then two hundred and thirty nine thousand
dollars in bounties. Another PKO as part of the series, another two time
winner, Helis Parson and the Finns just absolutely crushing PLO as is expected by
I think everyone in poker. He won at number eight, did Parson in
three hundred and forty eight thousand, six hundred dollars. There seth Davies his
first ever PLO cash, which is a wild to think about. He won
the twenty five thousand dollars championship event. That was event number nine on the
schedule, five hundred and twenty two thousand dollars for him, and then James
Calderero, who we don't see too often in the studio, but happy to
have the big show here. He took home the final event of at number
ten. He won just under fifty seven thousand dollars for that. All right,
what do you got for me? Sa, I got a lot of
stuff. I'm gonna start with Alan lay Plo Crusha, the best Lee brother
in poker. Yes, you heard that right, Tommy Nam It's all about
Allen le He's had thirteen PGT PLO series cashes in I would say he's probably
played twenty eight ish events. That's pretty damn good. He's got that one
victory. Also plays our mixed game series, also plays the Arie high Rollers
held in here, the PLO ones you mentioned, Sammy. He won two
hundred and thirty nine thousand in boundies, right, yeah, which is what
two and a half times what he won first place. He'd beat Jim.
He beat Jim Callopy heads up, Yes, Jim Callop. He won one
bounty three thousand dollars. So the thing of that swing it was an early
like it was an early bounty or somebody hadn't busted anyone else. Yeah,
so think about that swing where he could have potentially swung another, you know,
one hundred and something thousand dollars. That's pretty crazy. Sat Col though
the Big Show and then ten he doubled I think ninety six times heads up
against Alan Lee to win that. That my little anomalies from the PGTP loosers.
Yeah, so of course we always do a series leaderboard for all of
our series. The winner of this one was Sammy Cippola. Kind of a
little bit of a breakout. I mean, I mean, if you follow
the high stakes scene, specifically leaning towards Polam and Omaha, you likely know
who Sammy Cippola is. But a little bit of a kind of lataral Guera
esque breakout in terms of like he's a straight plo player, comes here,
does extremely well. He had those two victories, he had four cashes overall.
He also finished second to Seth Davies in the twenty five thousand dollars Championship
event, taking home a good chunk of change there when you include the bounties
that Cipolo won in the event number seven victory that he had. Then he
cashed for more than a million dollars at this series, so really really,
really awesome showing out from Cippola. He came over with Elos Parson and Jones
Cronwitter. You know that grew uh Mickey Duek boy in that group. Yeah,
the boys, well, Yanni, Yanni, you can mine and I
believe had a child, so he was out. He was you know,
they had to send him to the bed a child a month ago. Well
whatever, it doesn't matter. They had to send him to the bench and
they said, Sammy, let's go. You're in. You're in the game
the better PLO players, I mean clearly because he just came out on top.
So yeah, Cipolo came out on top of the leaderboard, gets a
ten thousand dollars PGT passport as a bonus prize, Elis Parson and got second
on the leaderboard. So the Fins just as it taking all that money and
gone Beckerson as as expected, as expected for sure. I did speak to
Sammy after he had finished second. Him and Seth was sitting at the bar
chatting a little bit, and I was kind of informing tell me about the
passport, and he he asked, you know how I can use I said,
you know, we're gonna do another PLO series in October, you know
probably then if you can come, possibly another one hundred k. I said
the one hundred k and his eyes lit up. So I'm like, okay,
let's lock him in for that. I did tell him about the World
Series and how we have you know, plethora. I'll pay a lot of
high role is in this very room. And he said that he might not
be coming for the World Series. So if you're out there, you know,
trying to put him on your draft team, on the ADB team,
he might not becoming he's having a baby. He's gonna be put on the
bench with Yoni to have a shot. So he may come for a little
bit of the World Series. He said, he's not really sure. He's
gonna, you know, obviously talk to his partner about that and figure out
the logistics. Yeah. I mean, overall, again, I think it
was a good series, really good turnout. A lot of the regulars here.
You know, we even got josh Ari, who is you know,
just got married over the weekend and is probably on some honeymoon in some you
know, luxurious, lavish place, probably some really hot weather Caribbean destination,
who he knows, but he did come out for for a chunk of it.
It was really well. I finished second to Ronald in that the PKO
so well, yeah, he might he blew that heads of believe. I
mean, he had just such a lead he did to play. And not
not that Ronald's a bad player. Ronald's a very very very good hero player.
And you know, but he he just had Josh had such a lead
and just could He did leave very angry. I did notice that. Yeah,
I mean I think I think that one was like it was there for
the taking for sure, loss of any play. Yeah. So but ef
at number six winner, we got to touch on him as we transition over
into our next topic, that is Dylan Wiseman. So he won e at
number six at the PGT PLO series for what was his third victory of the
twenty twenty four PGT season. All of Wiseman's success throughout the PGTPLO series allowed
him to move into first place on the PGT lead aboard. I'm going to
quickly run through the top five. We got Dylan Wiseman up on top one.
Thousand and forty seven points. David Coleman has nine hundred and thirty seven
points. Notably, he's been on nine thirty seven for quite a while now.
He did play a couple of events. Yeah for sure. I'm just
saying he just hasn't really had the results. Sammy Sippolo, with all his
success from the PGTPLO series, has moved into third place with seven hundred and
forty nine point points. Daniel Legranu leap frogged a couple people to get up
into fourth place. He's got seven hundred and sixteen points, and then Kristen
Foxen has six hundred and sixty six points and she rounds out the top five.
So Dylan Wiseman notably takes over the top spot. He's the first player
to get more than a thousand points over the course of the season. He's
the first player to win more than one million dollars from PGT events this season.
Now, Sammy Cippola, if you include the bouncing money that he won
from the PLO series, also has eclipsed one million dollars. We don't technically
count the bounty money as prize pool money, but Wiseman still got their first
so that doesn't matter. Wiseman has three wins and nine cases on the season.
Those nine cashes, he's tied for the most with Daniel Legrandu. Those
three wins, he's tied for the most with David Coleman. So, Dylan
Wiseman, you know, he is known most as a PLO player, but
did extremely well during the Mixed Game series. Joked coming into the PLO series
that he's now a Mixed games pro and a PLO recreational player. Right now,
I'm guessing he's going to be a no limit recreational player or no limit
pro for USPO. I mean be he can obviously play USPO or played no
limital right, I'm guessing because of how well he's done this season, his
positioning on the leaderboard, he's going to for sure play at least the opening
group of events at the USPO, So the five K, the ten k's
whatever, you know, and then probably go I'll see how I go from
their type of thing, and that'll be his approach. But uh, but
yeah, what do you offer me on the leaderboard? Move over, Sean
Dabe, because Dylan Wiseman is the best all round poker player in the world.
Oh, my god, no limit hold him victories, mixed game victories,
PLO victories. Sean Daep's sitting over there and you know, New York
wherever. He is sitting on his auswatching TV, lifting some weights and eating
a salad. He's lost his touch. All he does. He's played the
World Series. He can only handle these soft World series of poker fields.
He can't come in here, he can't compete with the best. The best
players in the world play here in the studio. Sean deeb, you were
not one of the best players in the world, and I don't think he
will be ever again. Well well, I mean that's just an idiotic I
know you had laid on thick there, but I mean, come on,
I'm back. I'm back with my takes. Jylan Wiseman is, of course
an extremely well rounded poker player, and I think he's he's showcasing that,
you know, more in these recent months, the recent year, so,
you know, showing out in the mixed game stuff. He knows his limitations
too, because he has said, you know, like I don't think I
can beat the you know, in the higher mind. No limits. He
doesn't feel like he has any edge. He feels like he's you know,
obviously a weak spot, but he's admitted, I'm running hot. Things are
going my way. I'm gonna take some more risks I normally would, and
you know it's paid off in events that are not his his forte which is
mixing no Limit. But yeah, he's getting it done. CODs are following
his way, and it shows a thousand and forty seven PGT points and he's
hottest start to this to the season, he could possibly yeah, and given
everything that that's coming up, you know, USPO, of course I would.
I would expect him to play at least four or five events at the
USPO and then again he'll he'll see how he goes from there. Not sure
if he's going to head down to Texas or not for the Texas Poker Open,
but you know, obviously wait to see there. Of course, the
summer is going to be huge for Dylan Weiseman. There is a lot of
PO events on the Wissity schedule. Of course, he'll be in every single
one of those, from the one k is to the fifty k. Yeah,
he'll be in there. He'll probably fire a lot of the mixed game
stuff, especially if he does continue to run hot, right, He'll he'll
certainly be in there. You know. Even if if Dylan thinks that he
might be not as good as some of the best players in the world in
terms of like Nolamit hold him and the mixed game stuff, you know,
but he obviously excels in PLO. He's the type of poker mind that I
think can figure it out right, and and the edge is not that great
between those players, right, so I think he can do just fine overall.
So so I would I would hope that he fires a lot across the
world series of pograms right now, give me a price twenty five K fantasy
Dylan last month. I mean I would need to know his volume. You're
just a lady's volume thirty dollars. Yeah, but like, but I'm outlining
his volume from a Dylan Wiseman poker playing perspective versus a ws P twenty five
K perspective. Yeah, the pint, you know, so so yeah,
whatever the price is, it's got to be more the Sean da Let's move
on. No, there's no shot. Also, in regards to Dylan Wiseman,
you touched on it earlier, there are nine PGTPOO events this year at
the Studio. Okay, so there's that. There's also five NOL and hold
him events, but but yeah, I mean Dylan Wiseman will have a lot
of stuff to play during the summer, you know, if he thinks he
can basically get his fix across I don't know, ten to fifteen, maybe
fifteen to twenty World Series of Poker events and then have those nine PGTPO events.
There's also going to be some PO events. I believe it's part of
the Wins schedule. So there's there's a good amount of stuff that that I
think can can keep Dylan Wiseman satisfied, which which makes me a little bit
more cautious than maybe I would be regarding his twenty five K fantasy price,
just because if he's if he's not going to be going like one all in
on on WSFP only stuff and he's going to be venturing elsewhere, then then
maybe I tick him down five to eight dollars or something like that and we
go from there. But I think overall he's going to be a pretty good
bye. We had him on our team two years ago, I think the
first year at the at the Horseshoe. He got COVID halfway through the world
procus, so you know, what are you going to do there? But
yeah, I mean, but it's also like it's one of those things where
he's he's known. Now, he gets drafted. Look up what he got
drafted for last year, and we I think we got him two years ago
for kind of cheap. I think he went up in price last year if
I remember correctly, although I could be wrong on that. And then this
year, especially if he continues to run hot, if people continue to talk
about him, if he continues to do winter photos with with his fiance standing
on his shoulders, then six dollars last year, Okay, we got already
six dollars. Look at that ten cash. He'll go for twenty to twenty
five this year, I think would be would be my guess. I think
he's probably worth it if he can give you fifteen to twenty, like that's
the floor for WSP events. I think that's that's probably all right. I
mean, he's just that type of good, especially in the plo stuff.
So yeah, all right, So that's the PGT leaderboard. Again. We
have Dylan Wiseman on top with more than a thousand points. He's the only
player up above one thousand points. We have David Coleman, Sammy Sippola,
Daniel Legroanio, and Kristen Fox and rounding out the top five. All right,
WSP announces that the WSP Circuit Tournament of Champions is going to be at
the Commerce Casino in La So, this entire circuit stop is going to run
May tenth through twenty fourth. The series is going to have one point seventy
five million dollars in guarantees. I think the main event is a million dollar
guarantee. And then the series also includes the WSP Circuit Tourna of Champions which
takes place May twenty second to the twenty fourth. And then that has a
separate million dollar free roll prize school attached to it which includes like all ring
winners braced the winners of like the recent year, basically the recent season of
the circuit. So so yeah, now a couple things here. It gets
announced. First, the WASP announces the ws AP schedule. Within that press
release, they say that they're going to announce the Tournament of Champions because the
Tournament Champions was not included on the schedule, and it has been in recent
years. You know it has been held elsewhere, which I think Chad Hollowy
did a good job of pointing out, because people have really revision is history
where they're like, it's always been in Vegas. We'll know it hasn't been,
okay, So first of all, let's just stop there. It's been
in Vegas recently, yes, okay, but it hasn't always been there.
So let's just you know, put that out there now. They did say
in the press release with the schedule that it will be announced I believe they
said March fifteenth, yes, and they didn't announce it on March fifteenth.
There was some people that are like, hey, where is this week goes
by? Two weeks go by. They finally announced, Okay, and it's
in La at Commerce Casino. So the beautiful Commerce casino. Listen. I
love the grungey Commerce casinos, the big Poker Pit. I like it.
I like like it because it's like grungy, and I'm like, yeah,
this is like, this is it. This is where I go grind,
Like, yeah, grind, grunge. Let's go La like people getting pissed
off yelling at you, like, let's go seventy thousand things on the menu.
To eat, you know, like I'm in so a lot of people
mostly like the you know, the way circuit crowd, and there's a lot
of those people that frequent those events. There's a lot of ring winners,
there's a lot of people kind of chasing this all that sort of stuff.
They took issue with the fact that one the announcement was late. Then the
announcement was late, and a lot of people pointed to a press release from
last year when the World Series of Poker said that it would return to Vegas
this year. Yeah, so that was an issue. People are just saying,
you know, generally it's just easier to have it in Vegas during the
World Series of Poker. I think I would agree on that. Yes,
there's also the California tax situation where I believe it's if you're not from California
and you cash, you're like slapped with an instant like seven percent tax and
you can try and get that back, but it takes a while takes back,
Like, yeah, it takes a while. It could be like multiple
tax Yeah, I mean that's just that's that's why, like, you know,
we've at the PGT, I've talked about let's you know, why don't
we try and go somewhere to California, Like we're always like, well,
taxes, like people like people have gotten hip to the tax thing now and
they're like whatever, I'm not gonna bother with the California events. So so
that's the sort I think in Hyde roll is it's more of an issue because
of the ROI yeah, so so yeah, I don't know what are your
thoughts on this overall? Where do you where would you put it? Where
do you think it would be? Vegas? Baby? Come, Okay,
let's say let's say here's here's on the schedule that you mean. Listen,
it can't be it can't be apples to apples because I don't think it is,
although I don't know, but I'm assuming it's not. So let's say
Commerce Casino is offering you five hundred k, or you can do it in
Vegas, but it's on your own time. But I'm still doing Vegas.
Yeah, I'm just I'm just wondering, like, at what point is it
like, is that number two million? Is that number five million? Is
that number a million? Is that? You know what I mean? Like,
at some point it makes sense to take the money. Yeah, I
mean if they're adding a million to the prize pool, it would be it
would it would I think it would convince people. If you said we're going
to come us, it's not a million dollar free roll, it's a two
million dollar free roll. I think you're more likely to buy some like Goodwill
and more likely players will come. My biggest issue is obviously the late announcement.
Like, let's put aside the even though they said it in Vegas,
they already made this decision. They should have been released simultaneously with the WSP
schedule. Now I know there's probably contracts, I'll say that it should have
been released. It should be released when they announced the WSP circuit schedule.
Yeah, they don't. They don't announce like the events at every single stop,
but they say these are the stops, and then the last stop is
this, and this includes the Tournament of Champions. Now, maybe that's in
Vegas, maybe that's commerce, maybe that's somewhere else in the world. Oh
who knows, right, But like, that's how I think you would want
to do it because I think, again going back to that original announcement that
people pointed to when they they all they said was it was going to be
in Vegas during during the doubsit, so people had like, Okay, well,
if I like chase a little bit here and there, I'm always gonna
end up in Vegas. Now people are like, wait, now I got
to go to La Yeah, Like that's kind of frustrating for a lot of
people. It is frustrating, But if they had had some more time,
because I feel like once the WSP schedules out, a lot of people are
planning that series. They're also so booking flights, planning accommodations and stuff.
And now if you're if you're like, look, if you're West Coast space,
you can figure it out. If you're coming from New York, or
you're driving from Florida, or you're flying in from wherever because you want to
bracelet. Now you have to come in a week early to play the TOC
in another city, so you have to either spend some money on changing your
flights or book another flight and more accommodation. That's more of an issue to
me than the tax, because I think it's a free roll. Whatever you
win money away, it's kind of a double tax. You're not getting taxed
on having to go somewhere pay extra money flight, accommodation, you know,
all that sort of stuff. It's not I it's not that cheap to stay
in California. Yeah, that thing to me, brothers me in more what
bothers me? And I'm you know, I'm going to I guess be picking
a fold at WSP is that they they made an announcement saying who was qualified,
and it excluded the twenty twenty three WSB Bracelet winners. Now then they
release the list of players and they keep updating it. I don't understand why
it can't just be updated when they can't be one hundred percent accurate when they
make this announcement, like, I don't to me, I don't think it's
that hard. And then they decided to add the WSB Bracelet winners. So
it was it a you forgot that they were supposed to be part of it
in the press release and now you're adding them, or you felt bad so
now you're adding them. Either way, I think, like, you know,
if you're trying to plan a release or a press release on something as
big as this, you should have all your eyes doted or your teas crusts.
That list should be one hundred percent accurate up to that point. I
don't think it's that difficult. With the data that's out there and you are
the WSP, you can keep track of these results. So that to me
left. We saw it here in person in the studio. We saw people
that had qualified but that weren't on the list. They were pissed, like
wow, so I don't get to go so like and then they get added
and they're like, Okay, now I'm fine, but you leave this bad
taste in people's mouth. Even though it gets resolved, they're just like,
it's just like a shitty kind of situation. So that kind of bothers me
the really the most. Actually, yeah, I guess I got to say
that. I think I was wrong because didn't I say that this would be
the hundredth bracelet event on the podcast? You flowed the idea that that would
add this to the schedule as the hundredth of bracelet. Technically it's is there
still a bracelet? It is a bracelet. And if we go on previous
instances where WSP added an event to the series midway a couple of years ago,
maybe the second last Rio one, it became the last event number,
but it was in the middle so technically this should kind of be a event.
Does this count as like a bracelet or like the I'm saying in terms
of like getting us to a hundred, Like, I don't think I would
classify this as a hundred even though it's negative one. I don't think so
it is it's a hundred bracelet. So yeah, I mean that's it's it's
really interesting to see the pushback. Now, Is anything going to happen?
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen this sort of stuff before where
the playing community gets mad at something. You know, they're all up in
arms on social media, they're voicing their complaints, et cetera. But are
they all just going to show up at the end of the day. I
think so. So oh, they might skip the first ball. Like I
would say that it's hard because it's hard because listen the other side of this
argument, and you know, I think it's worth mentioning because there are always
two sides of an argument. Is end of the day, they're giving a
million dollar free role. I mean yeah, Like you know, it's like
that's still a lot of money that's up for grabs, and I know they
might have like lessened, like what the buying equivalency is in recent years and
whatever, like, but still, I mean it's a million dollar free roll.
Yeah, and I think I wouldttach another part of that argument in that
if you are playing, if you are planning to play in the million dollar
free Real Tournament Champions, then I would think that you would also go out
for a part of the series. I mean, they have a I think
it's a six hundred dollars they're calling it the house forming event. That's an
opener, five hundred k guarantee. You have the main event that's I think
it's seventeen hundred dollars buying, which is always their main event million dollar guarantee.
So you know, there's gonna be some good value from some people out
in LA because there are a lot of tournament players that are out there.
So if you're on the better side of a pro poker player or even like
a very serious recreational who's very good, like, I think you can still
go value hunting out there overall. So I don't think it's like the worst
situation in the world. But yeah, if it was my choice, it
just would have been in Vegas because one, I mean I always try and
come at things, maybe to my detriment at times, but like pr branding,
marketing first, I mean that it puts the best eyeballs on it to
have it as part of the World Series of Poker, right, Yeah,
Like I feel like that's where you want to do it, and you want
to like you come to us as the production team and say, hey,
this is something we want streamed for sure, like this is something we want
to highlight, like or let's kick off the world series with it, you
know, because if it's not going to include the bracelet winners from this upcoming
summer, well then you just kick it off right at the beginning. Yeah,
you know that sort of thing. I have an idea that I could
almost have it be. You could have it in a way like the opening
week could kind of be like Champion Celebration week because you have the Champions of
the Union, you got the Tournament of Champions, like you know, boom
boom, like everything kind of in that opening weekend or whatever. I have
an idea like, obviously I don't know how the money works, and I'm
assuming they take you know, there's a portion of the RAKE that is set
aside for the TC, but I think it would be cool if it wasn't
a million dollar free roll, it was like a fluctuating number. So what
I mean is as the circuit grows and you have entries and you're pulling money
from each entry, the free roll starts building. So this start of the
season, the free rolls zero dollars, right, you guarantee a minimum a
million. But then there's a world where if the circuit is popular, and
that should be the goal if you're running the WSB circuit, that you want
ear on your increase in numbers. In atten DAEs that the freeroll could be
one point one three six million, right, Like that'd be kind of cool
that if you hit targets you give, you start giving a bit more back
to the players, so it increases the free You would want to for sure
set a minimum set down and go above that, which I think is is
it does incentivize people to like really play. Yeah, I mean, I
think that wouldn't be a bad idea. So so yeah, I don't know.
I'm interested to hear people's thoughts. Man, I've obviously have heard a
lot of thoughts out out there on social media. So yeah, I mean,
we'll kind of see how it goes. I'm guessing the end of the
day, it's still a pretty good series overall. You know they're going to
get big numbers. It is Tournament Poker, it's a big brand, that
WSP circuit, it's out in LA, it's at commerce, so you know,
they got big guarantees on everything. So I think overall the series will
will have a good turnout and then kind of lead right into the World Series
of Poker, which is you know, if this is going to end if
the Tournament Champions takes place twenty second through twenty fourth of May, I mean
this is that's going to be a week until the ws P at that time.
Speaking of California, I mean kind of the Savage average debuted at Rolling
Thunder WPT Rolling Thunder at Thunder Valley in northern California. So this tournament was
the idea of Matt Savage, friend of the podcast. Not sure if he's
a friend of me anymore, but a friend of the podcast. After my
my take on this event, he might not be your friends of the Oh
wow, Okay, So what this is is it's a tournament where everyone starts
with fifty big blinds. There's a fifty big blind average to start the tournament.
Over the course of the tournament, there are no tournament clocks in terms
of like the time level, right, normally you're like, okay, every
level sixty minutes, every little forty minutes, whatever it may be. No,
in this tournament, the levels increase based on the big blind average,
which is determined of course by the number of the players in the field.
The big blind average never below fifty big blinds, so you just play,
play play if it if it ever gets or if it gets too high,
right, then they put the put the blind up. Yeah, yeah,
and then they you know, you continue on, but you're always keeping like
the big blind average, never below fifty big blinds, I believe is what
they're doing with this. The first one, again was at thunder value.
It had ninety one entries. I actually forget the buy in now that I
should have wrote that down in my notes, but anyway, ninety one entries
within the first or sorry, within the registration period. One third of the
field was eliminated, which makes sense because you're not starting as deep. You're
only starting fifty big blinds deep. A lot of tournaments you're two big onine
ZB your three hundred big mine z, but like it's just it's insane,
right. The longest level, I think this is all from Matt Savage put
it on Twitter. The longest level after registration closed was two hours and fourteen
minutes. The shortest level was thirty two minutes. The average level was forty
four minutes. So that that average level falls right in line with like what
you see at this sort of price point, you know, you get normally
it's like a thirty minute at this price point, which I think this was
what six hundreds, I can't remember exactly. Can you look that up for
me? Just look up Ben Ludlow because he made the found table alongside Jeff
Platz. Shout out to those two guys best friends. They probably colluded the
whole way to the damn fountain. So anyway, average level was forty five,
so it's probably really yeah, five hundred plus seventy probably so anyway,
so yeah, so when you get that that sort of price point, I
mean, I think that's perfect. The tournament lasted just under thirteen hours.
There was a heads up chop Savage posted himself said not much that he'd changed.
Ben Ludlow again got second place after that heads up chop. He said
his favorite part of it was how deep they were at the final table.
He also said that he loves playing meaningful poker from the start. Lesser experienced
players didn't adjust accordingly to being deep late, which you know, if you're
a better player then you can certainly take advantage of that, and that heads
up play was too deep that he said there was a seventy five big blind
average heads up, which is insane. Got to speed that up for sure.
Jeff Platt also made the final table and said that he agreed with what
Ben Ludlow said. He echoed playing meaningful poker from the starts, that it
was nice to play deep at the final table and towards the endgame. So
it seems like people enjoyed it. It seems like it worked out pretty well.
I'm curious to see where it goes from here now. It is definitely
going to Seminal hard Rock in South Florida as part of the Seminal hard Rock
Poker Showdown coming up later this month on April twenty second. They're going to
have a six hundred dollars buying fifty thousand dollars guaranteed Savage Average tournament. So
We'll see how it goes there. I would say that Thunder Valley is a
tournament room that I think the staff is certainly on top of things, very
much more attentive, which you have to be with this tournament. I would
probably say the same of the Florida crew, you know, just knowing what
they've done in the past. Now, of course maybe that change is going
forward with how they handle this, but I'm guessing they handle it perfectly.
So yeah, I'm curious if you think it's going to catch on, Like
do you think this is going to be a thing where we're removing tournament clocks
more on poker? I mean it all. It seems like the biggest thing
that I think is caught on recently is well, one, clocks in poker
have certainly caught on a lot of places use clocks also, like mystery boundaries
have certainly caught on. Like those are the two biggest things to me.
I mean, mystery boundies are if you have a series, you have a
mystery boundie, Like that's just what you do, right, So are you
now like if you have a series you have a savage average or is it
something does it take on? So does it take on the mystery bounty approach,
where like it's like, if you have a series, you have one
of these tournaments, or does it take on the big blind ante approach where
it's like, this is just the way it's going to be from now on.
What's your opinion? Which way does it go? Well? Because at
first everyone was like big blind antih like, well, okay, we'll try
in this event, will try in that event. Now it's just the norm.
That's just what it is. Is it become the norm or does it
become more of a novelty event. It's a novelty event and that shows that
the fact that only ninety one play is played. Yeah, but you got
it first of all, you got to start somewhere. Sure, I would
gay, I would probably bet that thunder Value lost money on this event.
What wow, right Covering Dealers, you said it one forty ohs. I
don't think it will catch on the fact that it was done at thunder Valley.
I think Ben Irwin is willing to try things, willing to work with
their partner, which is great. Now we're going to see savage average of
the world series the PGT tried. Probably not and maybe it will be it
like a thunder Valley and WPT friendly slash family stops. The idea is interesting.
It probably does need some tweaking. Obviously, it's the first time it's
ever run. I bet you there'll be some small changes for seminal and wherever
it goes next. I just think that industry operators, and I'm including ourselves
in that, I'm including Matt, including all the tours out there, knows
what works, right, We know what works, but sometimes we try and
get fancy. We sometimes you know, look, we've done that as well
with some stuff we've done in the PLO series. We know it works.
Just keep it simple and kind of just yeah. We always start antying work
and then eventually somebody, well we're still handy. It's just I'm just wondering,
this is still running to ternament, This is still I get a different
way to do it. It's just that, do we need to reinvent the
wheel on something like this? I don't think we need to. My hot
take, I think this does. Okay, go ahead, give you a
hot take. My hot take is, did Matt Savage invent this to keep
himself relevant? You can't be a question. Your heart take has to be
a take, and my take is he created this to stay relevant. He's
not. People think he doesn't do anything at the WPT things. He plays
too much golf, He does nothing with a WSP anymore, barely plays any
poker. This is his shot at becoming relevant once again in the poka industry,
now that it's not two thousand and three. That's my heart take.
No, that's that's a ridiculous take, your second ridiculous take of this podcast.
You're just ramming. My take is this, If this does catch on
and become a thing, it is going to be detrimental to poker in the
long run in terms of getting more recreational players into the game because recreational players
cannot play deep, elaborate poker. They can't. I get what you're saying.
Okay. Which Ryan, producer of the podcast, has been on this
take for years. It is the first. He is the first to be
on it as far as I know, he's been on it forever. I
know some other people have picked it up at times. I don't know exactly
who was first with it, but I'm giving rich Ryan credit because I want
to. He's always said that the WSP manim in structure is too good and
hurts the quote unquote dream for recreationals because once you get deep, you know,
day six, day seven, et cetera, the res have no chance.
I mean, yeah, you might get unknown players in terms of like
name brands, but they're all still generally very very good, right. I
mean, who's like the kind of the wild card that broke through recently.
I mean John Hesp, that's exactly who you know, Like he's like but
he's like the only one you don't. You just don't get this like craziness
anymore because it's it's too good. They're so deep, right, Like it's
just so I'm taking the Rich Ryan take, and I'm expanding it to this
in that if every tournament were to move to this, like the REX would
have no shot if you're playing if you're playing fifty big blind average from the
start to the finish of a tournament, like I understand at the start,
like, yeah, you're a little bit shorter than normal, but over the
course of the tournament the average stays at fifty big blinds. I mean,
the professional players are just going to eat the recreational players alive. So yeah,
I feel like maybe the fixes it starts fifty. Maybe it says one
hundred bb average and then it like it slowly like increases so goes or decreases
one hundred and ninety eighty seventy sixty to fifty. So when you get to
the found table, maybe you're at thirty big ones, which is still a
lot. You know, if you're at the final table at thirty big blind
average at a final table is pretty deep overall, So you could stop making
at the start, you know, as you get as you get to like
half a final table, then yeah, thirty big bind I mean I certainly
also on the other side, like I hate like when you get everyone's got
ten to fifteen big bndes and it's just silly, Like you know, I
don't like that about some of our events. How it just basically gets to
like if they play for so long, they're also good, they're also worried
about ICM, Like I mean, it's part of it's fascinating, yes,
to see how these guys maneuver those sort of situations, but also part of
it is like it's just crapshoot, and you know, we want there to
be a lot of skill involved. So I think from a like I almost
feel like the savage average would work well like in PGT type of events where
it's more pro heavy, elite player heavy, and like that's what we're trying
to sell, like these are the most elite players in the world, Like
it's been told to us, like we want this to be the PGA of
poker, Like those are the best golfers. Yeah, like we want these
to be the best players, right, So then maybe this sort of thing
works better here, But for a six hundred dollars buying event, I don't
know if it works so much in terms of like you might play it once
or twice, but then you might realize, Okay, I'm not gonna win
because I'm not going to beat the good guys. Yeah, because it's just
once we get deep, I just kind of had no shot type of thing.
So so yeah, so that's my take there. I would like to
see it continue to be offered as you know, kind of a one off
novelty event is part of every schedule because I do think that variety helps and
there are going to be some people that like this sort of thing. So
so yeah, that's that's where I'm at with it. So again, the
next installment of the Savage Average is Monday, April twenty second, down at
the Seminal hard Rock as part of the Seminal hard Rock Poker Showdown. It's
the six hundred dollars buying fifty thousand dollars guarantees, so we'll be checking that
out. I mean, I know it's not on the rundown, but I
mean we might as well hit on it. You brought it off right before
I hit record. It does kind of tie in here because it does have
a tie to Matt Savage. You said you're getting a little fomo from WPT
Voyage. I am. I mean, listen, I'll tell you this.
They do a damn good job of creating fomour always has. It's something they
have certainly always cared about, and quite honestly, like at least when I
was there, like literally, it was like make people miss not being there,
Like that was like a goal from the marketing department. That's what That's
how you approach things. You want to You want people to see photos,
see videos, see posts on social media and be like, man, I
missed out. Now I'm feeling different from you. Listen, it does look
like a good time, but you're scared. I don't know. I'm just
I'm just anti cruse ships. Why would I want to be locked up on
a cruise when you can just send me to a resort somewhere I can do
the thing with the possibility of leaving and the possibility of not sinking into the
ocean. Great, Oh my god, Okay, I agree with the results
Trump's cruise. I kind of like if you went to a venue and you
literally never left the venue. I like to leave the venue. The World
Series of Poker for us, well, no, because I like to leave
the venues and I don't very barely, very barely leave. But I live
at home. I don't live at the World Series. Point the reason I
have Pharmo and look, I had toyed with going. The problem is it
is sandwich directly between a PLO series and we're going to discuss a lattle bit
our upcoming USPO and Texas per grew up in. So this is my week
of just catch actually downtime slash catching up with work. So that's one reason
next year I will make sure we have events space out of it more because
I think it would be fun. I'm not going to go play the five
k ma in but I think they play and I wanted better in terms of
because it left from Florida. Yeah, so it should like leave seminole and
then seminole. No, No, I disagree. I think it should be
off to something either way. It should be seminal right before seminal right after
this is it does voyage, then they go to Chalktaw then they're going to
seminole. Seminals on right now. Oh but it's not the WPT seminal.
Is this is this? Yeah? But like is WPT not Like is there
a partnership done with seminole. No, I think it's just this is a
standalone so I know. But I'm saying, like can they can you bring
that back? Like can you have one? Like yeah, can you do
away with another? Like if it's like okay, like maybe there's some relationship
where seminoles like no, we only want two WPT events a year, Okay,
Well how about it's this one that way we compare with the boy.
I think I think that would have been a lot better. If you have
seminole, it ends you know, you have the next day to get to
the boat. You're going to have a lot of people at seminole playing the
main event, go on this cruise, play the cruise, and then maybe
you have some time off after that on the on the series. Yeah,
I looks it looks fun like we have a lot of friends on there,
we have a lot of colleagues on there, we have it looks pretty cool.
Would be a cool idea to play some poker on a boat, just
like the old party poker days of the early WPT season. Yeah, you
know, I'm just not a go on a cruise type of guy, so
I agree, i'd but I think it looks. It looks it does They're
they're doing a damn good job of making it look good. And this has
certainly been something that I think Adam Pliska has always wanted forever, you know,
and and he got his wish and he made this happen. So kudos
to him and the team for putting this on decent turnout and beat the guarantee
overall. So yeah, you know, I think I think it was I
think it was good overall. You know. The only other thing that I
would say like that I might change is Originally when I heard about this idea,
I just assumed it was like families, but it's not okay, but
they have a partnership with the Virgin. The Virgin cruise ships are all adults
only. That's the thing. Get a different partnership. Yeah. I was
also thinking actually on my drive down here to the studio today, it just
popped into my head. So, now that you have this partnership with the
Virgin the cruise ships, can you do a WPT at Virgin here in Vegas
or like? Does that infringe upon any sort of partnership that you already have
in place. You've done stuff at the Venati. I would there is stuff
at the wind Like. I'm sure there is an as long as a different
time. I'm sure there's. I'm sure it's in the we deal enough with
Leo to know that. I guarantee you. Yeah, But there's also aren't
there other Virgin properties around the world. I let's find out. I don't
know. Isn't it called Virgin hotels? Bro? I mean, come on,
Richard Pointon does whatever he's wants? Can you have an event on his
island? I don't know sure. The al Elgin, the Alpha Quarter,
the Alpha Quarter is as it's now being known, Chicago, Dallas, Edinburgh,
Glasgow, Las Vegas, Nashville, New Orleans, New York, and
then are coming soon in sow Miami, Orleans, Miami, Denver cummingson,
Yeah, but you have to think it also has to be in a spot
where there's gaming allowed, So New Orleans, for example, I would I
would be all in on an Edinburgh w p T. I love that.
That's where I want to go. I mean they've done UK I p T
Edinburgh, So yeah, Nashville, Tennessee. No, there's no gambling there
like casinos Dallas. Well, that would be too close to chucktow anyway,
that wouldn't be that'd be like you have, they have to establish one of
those cars. Yah, I want to Chicago. Look up, look up
the New Orleans one. Does it have a casino? They have casinos in
New Orleans, doesn't Pitches doesn't look like it. But anyway, anyway,
that's in the city. Like Tim, the take is that they're making it
look like a damn good time. Yeah, for sure, great show the
marketing to them for for doing that. You know, the world Woar Tour
has always put marketing and branding kind of kind of number one on there,
just like a priority. So they're they're doing a damn good job because it
does make you it doesn't make you be like, hmmm, you know,
maybe maybe I would want to go there. It's New Orleans Hotel looks pretty
dark though not saying that, but it looks pretty sick. Well, I
need to put a casino on there, all right, So let's hit on
this prop bet before we get into the USPO and Texas Poker open stuff.
So Robert Kuhon I saw a post on social media from Robert Kuhn saying that
he was going to engage in a prop bet with Sean Deep against Shan Deep
a thirty day water fast. So deb gave Coon twenty to one odds.
Cohon is betting three thousand dollars to win sixty thousand dollars against Shan Deep.
Coun cannot consume anything other than water and coffee for thirty days. He can
drink. I think it's he can't drink coffee for two hours upon waking.
Or maybe it's he can drink coffee for two hours. Wrong, I can't.
It's written as he can drink coffee for two hours upon waking. But
I'm wondering saw me either that's he can only drink the coffee in two hours,
because coffee is a bit of an appetite suppressant. So wondering if that's
the case or if he needs to delay it. I'm guessing it might be
because they don't want him to have it be an appetite suppressant for the entire
day. So anyway, he can also consume electrolytes, salt, and vitamins.
I checked Koon's Twitter today. He's on day ten, so he's going
strong. At this point. I feel like he's just gonna make it.
I try not how like I've done a water fass. I think you've done
a water fass. It's terrible, It's brutal. No, it's not,
it's not. It's terrible for the first three or four days, and then
honestly, after that you just forget about it. I mean, he's I
think he said he's what ten days in? Is he about ten days in?
I think today's day. I believe he's in Costa Rica playing poker like
so that makes it tough for I think going in the tough spot. I
saw one photo where he was like out to dinner with people. That's tough.
I know. I don't know if I could do that, like you
just gotta say my waterfast like I was. I feel like I was dying.
I feel like I was dead. I had nothing in me. I
don't know I was gonna excited that the water fast. I've done some extended
juice fast and like the first two to three maybe four days are usually annoying.
That's when your body is really adjusting. You might get some headaches,
you feel really grumpy, all that sort of stuff. You know, your
energy levels are are low while your bottle body is still adjusting. But then
once you get past like that third or fourth day, it's kind of just
like the new normal and you can just go. I mean, I went
on a I went on. I know the juice fast is different than waterfast,
of course, yes, I think the longest water fast I did was
a week juice fast. I went on one time. I planned to do
a five day juice fast, and it lasted like eighteen days because I just
got to the point where I was like whatever, like let's just keep getting
calories and you don't get you get like fifty alleries of juice. I mean,
no, I understand, I understand, but I'm just saying like it's
like it's not that much, just a prefaces. He's starting weight was three
or five. Yeah, he has some fuel on his body to burn through,
so yeah, he still but he should make it. The fact that
there's a listen, there's a reason he was probably three h five, probably
ate a lot. Yeah, I mean nothing against Robert Cooper. That's probably
you get to three oh five, right, So you know that said your
body is used to consuming. Yeah, so I did mine. I just
think that in general, the fact that he was like, is willing to
risk three thousand to sixty thousand? Like, I just feel like, I
don't know. I just I got the sense reading through the tweets when it
was kind of being worked out and Kuon was talking about that he's a sure
bet to make it, like he's like, anyone want to bet against me,
let's go whatever. Like I was like, there's I think there's no
way. That was just the sense that I got there was no way.
I mean, could you do it if I was straight or five? Maybe,
well you couldn't do it right now if you want to do it right,
if you were to do it right now, okay, twenty to one,
but you have to wager something. What are you wagering I had long
to have to do it, four thirty. I get the coffee a bit
though, Yeah, you get coffee. Trying to see a coffee for the
first two hours upon waking, you can consume electrolytes, salt, and vitamins.
That stuff helped. The electrolytes help a lot. Well, no shit,
I would bet am I getting twenty to one? Yeah, so like
if you bet five hundred dollars, Like, is winning ten thousand dollars really
going to push you to do this? I'd probably be like a thousand bucks
thousand to win thousand. Kune did say that, like, you know,
because of the health stuff, the medical stuff that could happen in this,
he's going to be trying to see a doctor. I think he said every
week or maybe a couple times a week to go through with it. If
it was me, I think I would consult the doctor beforehand see if it
was okay, which I'm guessing it would be, and then I would try
and Max beet. Yeah, I mean you have a lot more experience than
Raub and me doing this, so yeah, I think you have a better
chance to do it. Yeah, I mean it's it's interesting. I don't
know why I might need to bet more money so it hurts me more,
and then I'm more likely to do it. It's also it's also a question
of where you are in life. And what I mean by that is like
Tim and I and I'm assuming a lot of people out there who are listening.
You have families, you have kids. You have to think about that.
I mean, I can't just do something that could possibly cause in the
most severe case, some death right in a less severe case but still severe
long term health implications right now if you're single, you don't have kids.
It's a different equation to some extent. Of course, Yes, you want
to avoid, you know, the ultimate tragedy of death. You want to
avoid any long term health risk, Yes, but you don't have to worry
about like doing so for your kids. It's only you type of thing like
so, so that would that would come into play for I think someone like
you know, you and I and a lot of other people out there,
whereas like you know, I can just say that I was a little bit
more crazy when I was single and didn't have a lot of responsibilities and to
worry about things like you can do whatever you want and it doesn't really matter
so much. In a way, you're kind of only hurting yourself, so
so that would be part of the equation here. But ultimately, I think
Robert Kuon's going to do it again. He's ten days in, he's got
to go thirty days total. So I think Sean Deeve is going to be
getting some of that money that he won from Bill Perkins for his way loss
bet and he's going to be sending it on over to Robert Koon in this
bet. So I think it's interesting, and I think again, you know,
we're never going to stop hearing about these kind of wacky prop bets coming
out of the poker world. I mean, poker people love to bet on
everything, so they're always going to find a way. So Robert Kuhne found
a way to get twenty one odds on a thirty day water fast and he's
often running. He's ten days in, all right. Coming up in a
couple of days, what April eighth, we have the US Poker Open eight
events, five thousand dollars is the opening buy in. The championship event is
a twenty five k. It's gonna be a lot of fun. We are
going to be live streaming every final table, plus bonus coverage possibly. Yeah,
so there's going to be a lot of What I mean by bonus coverage
is it could be some as I keep dropping my ring, could be some
day one covers that we're going to be doing. So be on the lookout
for that from us here at poker Go What I mean, what are you?
You're the one with your you know, your finger on the pulse of
this sort of stuff, So what are you hearing? What are you expecting?
Our turnout is going to be good? Is Phil Helm coming? Like?
What what are we getting out of the us PO? Who are your
first favorites to win the Giant Golden Egle Trophy? Like all that sort of
stuff. Fill Home ain't coming, is not coming? He played no pilo,
He played mixed, but he played some mixed no pilo. I was
very bullish on the USPO. Win at us PO last year, straight flush,
Yeah, so he's gotta gotta get in there. I was bullish on
the us PO until I saw how many people went on the voyage. They're
not going to come back. No, they're going to come back, but
you know, like that's dark. Maybe they skipped the first event well,
the second they skipped the first event, who cares, well, what I
mean, it's the It's the start of the series, so it means a
lot like starting well. Poker Cup we did a five. Okay, we
got one hundred and eleven entrants. I was hoping we would get more than
that, but I would say maybe somewhere in those same, very similar numbers
for poke A Cup. Obviously, we as in the PGT have had a
substantial break from Nolanman to hold him last PoCA Good Cup of event finished on
February third, so we're basically, you know, two months out since No
Limit. I felt like back then in January we kind of had too much
stuff going on with Kickoff, Last Chance, the Championship, and the Cup.
Now they've had some time rebuild bankrolls. Hopefully they'll will have better numbers
than the Polo Cup to kind of push the USPO even further. So yeah,
I'm always going to hope for the biggest numbers we can get. Yeah,
I mean, listen, I'm pretty bullish on the USPO in general.
For whatever reason, I just feel like the turnout is good every single year
for this series. I think the majors generally do pretty well, but most
importantly from the majors USPO and Poker Masters, which always takes place in the
second half of the year. So I know. The third major, at
least in terms of a series, is the Poker Rol Cup, but I
don't know, I kind of put that as the one b mostly because it's
newer than the other. The other one, you know, USPO and Poker
Masters are just a bit more established. So yeah, so I'm expecting a
pretty big turnouts. You know, I think it will be a good series
overall. So yeah, I mean, I I can't wait for it.
You know, I'm also kind of happy to I mean, this is not
like a knock, although I know it's gonna sound like a knock, but
I'm kind of happy to get back to some nolm and hold them. I
mean, it's just actually, I mean not that I'm knocking the mixed games
in the PLO, but like I want some them to hold them back in
my life. So let's go. So, you know, we you know,
we branched out for the last couple of months doing the mixed games and
in the PLO series, and and now it's back into the two card Poker.
Some might say it's boring, some might say it's not whatever, but
here we go. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So, so,
yeah, should we do what's we gotta do? A fantasy draft?
You pick three players, I'll pick three players. Most leaderboard points combined between
us wins US and we're betting? What are we betting? Coffee? How
many coffees? Five? Five? Jesus why not? Who cares five coffees
when we drink coffee every day? I'm going first, Yeah, us,
David Coleman. Fuck, that's right, baby, let's go. He's my
guy, I got. I picked him as the breakout player of the year.
He's second in the PGT leaderboard. Let's go, David Coleman, Alex
Foxin. You get to pick two. Chrissy Foxing, Wow, Okay,
I'm gonna go with Jeremy Osmas. Good pick. Yeah. I think I'm
pretty sure he's within the top ten of the PGT leaderboard. But I still
feel like he's been generally quiet. So well, he skipped some of the
paylo series because he son had a baseball tournament or socker tournament. Yeah,
but you know, just in terms of results, that's fine. And then
listen I gotta stick with the hot hand, mister, quality over quantity.
So I have I have David Coleman, Jeremy Osmus, Daniel and Grandio on
my team. Don't let me down, boys, don't let me down.
Boys. I'm gonna look at this. Can't let me down, like five
coffees writing on this. Did I tell you somebody stole my Starbucks? Yes?
Oh, I didn't tell you. I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta digress for a second. I go to Starbucks just today by the office.
I walk in because I'm gonna do it on my phone, and it's
like I know what I'm telling the people, But then I have a second
part of the story too, and they kind of are together. Is that?
So I go, I go to the registry, I order scam my
card whatever. I order a Venti cold brew, my typical order usually Grande
or a Venti Cold. There's two gentlemen behind me. I don't know why,
but I could just get the sense that they were not from around here,
but also like not like used to going to Starbucks a lot. I
just got that sense the way that they were kind of talking, looking at
the menu like whatever you I think most people that go to Starbucks that are
regulars, like, don't even look at the menu, you just know your
order as you go in. Boom boom, you're out. So they order
behind me. I'm standing so first of all, over by the register or
over by the pickup area, right where they have at Starbucks. I'm standing
like five feet back because a lot of people are kind of coming in and
out. There's people that have mobile orders whatever, like you don't want to
stand right up against it. There is a woman though, that is standing
literally right up against it. She's leaning against it. She looks annoyed,
like she just looks upset, annoyed whatever. She's standing there. The barista
is doing something for her, like blending a drink and like the aluminum thing.
She shows it to the woman. The woman says something, but I
can't hear it because of where I am. The barista goes back, blends
it some more, does whatever, comes back and shows the lady once again,
and the all I hear is the lady say, do I need to
come back and do it for you? And I'm like okay, Like what
is happening? So the maaris is like like whatever, She like turns around
and like you know, she goes back, she blends it more or whatever,
and then the lady says something like I'll just take it basically, and
so then the lady like puts in the cup and takes it, and then
the verisays, then, you know, after that lady leaves, she's kind
of complaining that the woman didn't like the consistency of like what she blended and
it was this whole thing. So that's happening. So while that's happening,
another barista puts a puts a hot drink on the counter and says, whatever
it is, you know, blah blah blah. One of the guys that
was behind me the line goes up and takes it. Okay, fine.
Then the same barista who just dropped off that hot drink goes back to her
station, does something, comes out with a cold drink. It looks like
my drink, fenti cold. She puts it. I don't know if people
know about the Starbucks pickup bery, but they now have little things that have
letters. She puts it right the d The other guy of the pair behind
me grabs it. She'd Now the woman doesn't say anything. She doesn't say
VENTI coldbrew whatever. She doesn't say Donnie, like whatever. She just puts
it down. The guy grabs it, and I'm like about to say,
excuse me because I'm pretty sure that it's mine, and he just drinks it
and he doesn't even he doesn't even look at the label. He just literally
picked it up and drink like this is Starbucks raw dogging it as far as
I'm concerned, Like, he has no he has no idea, like if
like maybe he ordered a Venti cold Brew and that's a cold brew with six
sugars in it, Like he has no idea what this is gonna be.
He just straight up drinks it, and I'm just like and then he like
taps the other guy on the shoulder and they just leave, and I'm just
like, well, I think he took my drink, but I don't really
know for sure, but I think he took it. So I'm like,
Okay, I'll wait another minute and i'll see. So same woman who just
dropped off that drink. She comes back out and she puts another cold drink
down, venting, she goes Venti eised Americano, and then I go I'm
like, yep, he for sure took my drink he probably ordered ventcy ice
to Mercano. He just took the colbrew but they're long gone, so whatever.
I go up to the register, I say, hey, you know,
you know, can you just check on my colder. I think that
other guy took it, but I'm not really sure, but whatever, So
they get me a new one, like right away. Not a big deal.
Now. Later at night, at like eight o'clock, I go to
the grocery store. My wife needs some things. I go to the grocery
store. I grab a cart. I walk in. First thing when I
walk in is it's like the produce section, fruits and whatever. She wants
me to get some strawberries and whatnot. So I have like some strawberries.
I think I put some potatoes in there, and some avocados in the top
part of the cart, you know, like where the kids sit. Yeah,
in the top part of the car. Then I'm like, oh,
let me go check on something else, which was like ten feet behind me,
like not even that far. So I just leave the cart right like
to the side of an aisle, up against something like, I suys I'm
not going to leave in the middle of an aisle, so I just leave
it right there. I go over to check on something. I come back.
I'm over there for twenty seconds. I come back. My cart is
not where it was, but there's a cart that's about five feet from mine,
but like turned at this weird angle, and I'm just like in my
head, I'm like, there's no way I left my cart like this,
right, I just wouldn't do it. And then I'm like, wait,
there's no strawberries and avocado and whatever in it. So I'm like, Okay,
what the hell happened? So I'm like looking around, like thirty feet
away from me, there's a couple with my cart going through like the deli
meat section and just putting deli meats and stuff into my cart, and I'm
just like, Okay, clearly they stole my cart, but like I didn't
have enough things in there that I was like, whatever, I'm not going
to care. But also I'm like their cart that they left that I then
took had nothing in it. So you took this cart and you didn't realize
you have strawberries, avocados and potatoes in the top part, not like it
below or you might not be able to see him. No, you just
took this cart started to walk around with it, are completely oblivious to the
fact that it was certainly not in the same area as you left your cart,
and now you're just putting stuff in it like you don't care, Like
I don't understand the thought process behind people to do this. You're justerries.
And really, I actually I did pick really good strawberries. I spent a
lot of time. And the thing about the fucking avocados, they only had
three organic avocados left and I took all three of them, so they took
my damn avoca. That's why they took They saw you take the avocado,
and like, man, it is absolutely, absolutely positively messing no, because
I was like, I'm not going to deal with this, Like it's just
awkward, Like what am I still say? You took my car, that's
what you said. They're already putting all their stuff in there. Whatever.
I'm just like, you know what, I'll just grab another Cardo'll carry on
with my day, get your al It was just very weird to me in
general that the Starbucks thing happened and the grocery store thing happened in the same
day, two similar situations, different venues, different parts of town, but
they both happened to me in the same day. In a way, I
was thinking, like Ashton Kutcher was going to pop out and say that I
was being pranked in bad What is happening in three is Yeah, maybe there
was another thing that happened. I did have to sit through that three hour
meeting yesterday. Good point. That was it. That was pretty frustrating.
But whatever. Anyway back to I don't even know what we were talking.
We're about to talk about Texas Technics, Texas Pokerup. Let's go. What
do you got. We're going to Texas. We are going to Texas Champions
Club. We're running a three thousand and eight thirty three hundred dollars buy in
main event, two million dollar guaranteed prize bawl. You will own PGT points
in this event. There's eight starting flights, four normal ones, four turbos
at night at one in the morning. It's going to be pretty huge.
It's at Champions Club in Houston, Texas. Great venue, great food,
great staff, great hotel. Really liked that property. Along with the thirty
three hundred dollars by a main event, there are seven high rollers. There's
going to be bang. Yeah, there's gonna be three one day kind of
turbos five fifty one hundred dollars buy limit hold them. You know, we're
doing the normal discounted rake for on time, so it's either fifty three or
fifty one. They're going to finish in one day. What's the main event
is at the final table. We are now onto our normal kind of two
day thing playdown on the Final table. We're streaming every day of the main
We're going to stream these final four high rollers. We have a five K
no limit, a five KPLO, a ten K no limit, a ten
kplow, lots of PGT points up for grabs, eight total events where you
can earn PGT points, lots of satellites for the main event. I think
champions are still ironing out some details, but there are turbo satellites, there's
milestone satellites. You know, we're talking two hundred and fifty dollars buy ins,
five hundred and fifty dollars buy ins to get into the thirty three hundred
dollars main event. There's also a four hundred dollars monster stack. There's a
three sixty multi flight at the very end of the series. There's an eleven
hundred Turbo. There's events for everyone. I advise you to book a few
nights. Champions Club come down, play the main, play, some satellites
play some mains for sure. Going to be juicy, Yeah, it has
to be. It's Texas. Yeah, it's Texas. It's going to be.
It's it's it's going to be a fun little trip. The series is
April twenty fourth to May fifth. The main event kicks off on the twenty
fourth, with Day one a shot clocks forty minute levels moving into sixty minute
levels streaming every day of the main event. Jeff Platt, Brent Hanks on
the call on the Pogo YouTube channel every day day one a coverage of the
main Day one, c so forth, et cetera, all the way on.
Supposedly he is playing some events. I don't know what that means.
Does that mean the main is and my role is maybe he's only playing some
cash games. I don't know bet he is coming. I've heard I've heard
some other names coming. Ki Chiwi, Osmas, Victoria, Liveshits might be
going down. I believe the foction's I've heard it falls at a good time,
right, you know, right before WPT Chalk TAW. So you know,
you can make kind of that sort of swing hit hit Texas, drive
on up to Chalk Taw, play that for the World Poker tourunt They always
get a really good turnout for that. Chalktaw events very popular, so,
you know, two very good you know, mid mid stakes price points for
those events, big guarantees on offer as you mentioned. Then if you're someone
who likes to play higher as well, you know, I definitely think it
does benefit you in terms of what's being offered on the PGT side. You
can grab some points there. There's gonna be a ton of them up for
grabs as things go. So so yeah, it's a nice little uh,
it's a nice little series. I hope it does very well, you know.
I know, we definitely have aspirations of taking the PGT outside of Vegas,
outside of the studio, and this is the first step in that direction,
our first try at it, you know, our first swing, and
it's a it's a fairly big swing with what we're doing here. So maybe
this is something where we can replicate it elsewhere. You know, I think
I've always thought a PGT type of series could do well in Texas. Yes,
but also Florida, I think is a possibility. Possibly somewhere on the
east coast, maybe another you know, I'm talking like northeast. You know,
it could be another opportunity. So yeah, you know, we'll we'll
see how it goes for this first one. But we all, I think
we're all very much well aware of how popular and how much growth there has
been on the Texas poker scene. So yeah, it's kind of only natural
that we try and dip our toes into that area, into that region and
really try and grab hold of it. I know that, Yes, it's
it's obviously one thing to go down there with lower buying stuff, you know,
and that's great, that's all well and good. But I think a
lot of these Texas people or people within that region have a lot of money.
Man. I think they're willing to blast off. So I think some
of these high rollers might be a little bit crazy. I actually just got
a text message from Champions Club, like a promotional text messages. They're running
Step one, Step two satellites Milestone Stateellite starting in seventy five bucks. You
know, win a seat into a thirty three hundred dollars buy in two million
dollars guarantee Ryan now at Champions Club in Houston, seventy five dollars. I
mean that's that's awesome. We don't need to go early and try and get
a seat. Yeah, you should go early and try and get a seat.
You got anything else for us? I think that's it. Okay,
cool because I think we've gone quite long here. Yeah, but whatever I
told Tim yesterday, I'm going to put it out there now. Oh here
we go, Well, here we go? What Okay? To continue,
I need to get better at doing the podcast, like in terms of like
the frequency that we're doing this. Yes, I agree, so going forward
every day from now. No, I can't. I can't just roll out
of bed and be Matt Burkey like I just I just don't have that time
and that much stuff to talk about. I can't. I can't do it,
you know. I mean we have shout out to well, he's got
a job too, he plays poker. I mean, listen, doing the
podcast every day like Burkey and those guys do that, that's a job,
trust me, a lot of work. So it's it's not easy by any
means, but you know, we got we have to just stick to once
a week. We can't be blowing this. And then of course, you
know, we'll have daily shows during the summer for the World Series of Poker,
which at this point is just going to be here before we know it,
because it's just it feels like every day that goes by, we're just
we're so much closer than just a day closer, you know. I was,
Oh, I mean, I guess quickly. I played the WSB Circuit
main events at Horseshoe. What I want to say is that I was in
the Normandy Ballroom upstairs on the I guess, the Jubilee side of Horseshoe.
So if you're looking at the Hall of Fame poker room that's called which is
the regular Horseshoe Casino poker room. If you're looking at it, right to
the left you have the Jubilee Theater, and then to the right there is
a cafe, and then right to the right of the cafe are two escalators,
one up, one down. You go up. That's where you go
up to the Normandy Ballroom. There's actually another ballroom above it if you take
another set of escalators up. But that first one to the right is where
they had the circuit events. And it was nice. I mean, everything
that I saw said that they were newly renovated. They looked newly renovated.
You know, everything looked updated. The carpets looked nice, et cetera.
They had fifty tables in the room that I was in. They had a
separate cage in there. They had fifty tables. They had a couple Caesar
sportsbooks, kiosks, they had a couple of massage chairs, et cetera.
So that's where I believe that they said they're going to be putting the deep
Sacks tournaments during the WSOP. I'm talking about the daily Deep Sacks, not
the you know, the bracelet events, but the daily Deep Sacks and then
also the satellites. So it's quite separate from you know, the main horseshoe
area for the tournaments and then also Paris, but it's it's a nice little
space that those people are going to have. There is also a hotel tower
right there and the elevators excuse me, come down like right onto that floor.
You can get off and walk right there. So if you're a guy
who comes out and you want to fire, you know, a handful of
daily Detach tournaments play some satellites, et cetera. I would say, and
you're going to stay at the Horseshoe, try and book that tower because then
it's just quick up and down. It's right there. So it was very
nice over there. I was pleasantly surprised. You know, last year when
they had the circuit event at the Horseshoe in Vegas, it was on the
main casino floor in the middle of the smoke. It was a giant pain
for those of us trying to play. The smoke was just way too much.
You had all the noise, the music from the people playing slot machines
and all that sort of stuff. But not this time. Is a very
good area up there, kind of set away from everything. You got your
own little space to play. And again they crammed fifty tables into that place,
so I counted them up, so that's quite a lot of tables.
So yeah, But anyway, that's the second time I kind of threw something
in here that didn't need to be in here. But anyway, we're gonna
get out of here. My name is Donnie Peters. His name is Tim
Duckworth, and we will talk to you guys next week, I promise next week