WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:30.239 Hello everybody, and welcome back to Disconnected. I'm here with Ross from Saturn's 2 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:34.000 Core Audio and Video, which, in my opinion, one of the most 3 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.960 exciting and interesting partner labels of any of your syndrome. Ross, how are 4 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:41.359 you doing today? I'm doing well. Happy to be on the show. 5 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.399 Always enjoy your videos. So thanks for having me. Thanks. That means 6 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.399 the world. I mean, I was shocked when you said you watch. 7 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.280 It's so weird when you hear somebody that's, you know, running one of 8 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:57.280 these labels that they share that they've seen something like this. And I think 9 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:02.000 that a brand like Saturn's Core will ever get enough love. And I am 10 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.920 always happy to share that appreciate it. So, I mean, Saturn's Core, 11 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:08.400 how do you how do you get into this from the very beginning? 12 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:14.359 Have you always been into physical media? Oh? Yeah, I mean I 13 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.239 mean look at the background first of all. Yeah, I mean this is 14 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:23.239 all VHS. Started buying vhs like in eighty seven. I would say that's 15 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:30.120 when I first started buying movies basically, and then you know the massive, 16 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:36.599 massive VHS collection, upgraded everything onto DVD, upgraded everything on the Blu Ray, 17 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:41.760 upgrading everything onto UHD. You do, but still have a lot of 18 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:49.719 love for VHS and the analog format. Obviously, the analog format is a 19 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.640 great question because a lot of people tend to scoff at Saturn's Core. So 20 00:01:53.680 --> 00:02:00.040 what, how would you like describe the specialty behind Saturn's Core. Well, 21 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:06.760 I mean Saturn's Course started actually in twenty fourteen, right, and it was 22 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:15.360 a VHS label. So basically I was licensing VHS rights for movies mostly shot 23 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:20.599 on video, but some that were shot on film, underground stuff that I 24 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:25.400 was a fan of, and just releasing very limited runs twenty five pieces, 25 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:34.680 thirty five pieces and just selling them online. And you know, did well 26 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.879 with that and then I really never thought that it would turn into a Blu 27 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:46.039 Ray label. But here we are, and yeah, I mean very happy 28 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:52.439 with the way things are going. So but yeah, I mean, look, 29 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.400 shot on video movies, it's never going to be for everybody, you 30 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.520 know what I mean. I mean these movies were reviled at the time they 31 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:07.360 came out, regardless of how innovative they are. People just could not wrap 32 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:09.840 their heads around the format because for some people, it's not a movie, 33 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:17.439 it's a video. For me, I mean, I grew up renting dhs, 34 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.280 and that's when I fell in love with movies. And I guess based 35 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:30.800 on growing up in the late eighties early nineties with MTV and cable access, 36 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.520 like video never bothered me, Like I just instantly accepted it. When I 37 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.759 rented you know, stuff like video violence and death Row Diner and redneck zombies, 38 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.360 you know stuff I rented in the eighties, Blood Culton boarding House, 39 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:51.840 I just instantly accepted it. And as you know, a fan of underground 40 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:59.280 music and punk music, to me, it was like a very attainable format. 41 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.960 You know, you did need studio backing, or you didn't need you 42 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:11.840 know, studio execs or notes or test audiences. It's just you were only 43 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:16.199 limited by you know, the filmmaker's imagination in his pocketbook. And somehow these 44 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.360 movies would end up in the video store, like right next to Kerry or 45 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:26.680 like whatever the studios had to offer. So really sort of the last bastion 46 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.720 of you know, that drive in era, that film hucksterism, where all 47 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.519 kinds of things were just sort of popping up on shelves and people were renting 48 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:44.120 these things unbeknownst. But I feel like since then that a lot of a 49 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.160 lot of people are not so put off by that format anymore. I feel 50 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:51.240 like some people are coming around to it, and then there's a huge audience 51 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:56.800 of people that just love shot on video movies like period. Right. But 52 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.240 yeah, it's not for everyone, and we get it. That's fine. 53 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.839 And you, I mean you still do some of the VHS stuff, right, 54 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:09.720 Yeah, I mean we put out one VHS last year. We're definitely 55 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.399 gonna do some this year. They're usually tied to like some kind of event 56 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.879 that we host or something where they start exclusive to the event and then whatever 57 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:24.759 is left over we kind of put into our store and sell the rest off. 58 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:29.639 But yeah, we plan on doing some things that are VHS exclusive, 59 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:35.279 so that's hopefully going to continue. Interesting. I'm kind of taken by what 60 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.439 you just said a moment ago about the last bashion of the DIY aspect and 61 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.439 talking about growing up with punk and perhaps that's why a lot of what I 62 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:49.600 have inside of me and I've never really approached this so pardoned me. But 63 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:54.279 my mind's blowing a little bit. I grew up in like the indie punk 64 00:05:54.319 --> 00:06:00.839 scene in southern California, so I've always been attached to SOOV stuff in an 65 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.399 odd way. I've not been able to put it into words, but thinking 66 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:08.519 about that, I mean, this is truly like the garage show of cinema. 67 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.360 This is the sort of thing that you know, is the house show 68 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:16.079 of it. It's it's below indie basically. Yeah, And it was really 69 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:21.079 the same time that I started going to you know, punkin hardcore shows in 70 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.879 like ninety three ninety four. That's when it really took off. Yeah, 71 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:31.160 is when the SOOV thing in my eyes sort of exploded. You know. 72 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:35.399 I mean in the eighties you had a lot of movies that were shot on 73 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:41.040 video, but there wasn't like a unified scene, and there wasn't fanzines and 74 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.879 stuff. I don't think the filmmakers really knew one another. It was all 75 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.560 just sort of like happening here and there. But you know, in that 76 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:54.680 era in the nineties, like mainstream horror was awful. I mean, you 77 00:06:54.720 --> 00:07:00.120 know, it was just all like bad sequels and Stephen King adaptations. And 78 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:06.160 then you know, I started to stop reading reading Fangoria because like it had 79 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:10.759 you know, the Adams family on the cover, And that's when I discovered 80 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:16.560 film threat and alternative cinema and Drakuelina and all these magazines and started buying the 81 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:24.439 movies from the ads, and my head just exploded. Like ninety four, 82 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:28.600 particularly as you could probably see from Saturn's Core, We've probably released like ten 83 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.439 movies from nineteen ninety four and there were more coming. I just feel like 84 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:36.279 that year was so amazing. I just kept buying things that just blew my 85 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:42.000 mind. And so that's really like, you know, I mean, I 86 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.120 continued on all the way, you know, through the two thousands and watching 87 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.720 and loving shot on video stuff. What's funny is you mentioned you've done ten 88 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:54.720 from ninety four. You've happened, as far as my count is correct, 89 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.639 through the partner label, put out ten so far. Yeah, we haven't 90 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.839 really then, but with your eleventh already announced for this month, so I'm 91 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.279 curious, how do you make the jump from VHS to Vinegar Centron partner label. 92 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:16.240 Well, that came essentially from the documentary that I co directed with my 93 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:22.360 partner in Saturn's Core, which is William Hellfire, the legendary underground filmmaker. 94 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:28.800 We made a documentary called Mail Order Murder. We submitted it to many distributors 95 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:35.399 to try to find distribution, and one of the people that are groups that 96 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:41.720 responded was OCN and we signed a deal with them for distribution, and it 97 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.840 was right around the time that they were doing partner labels, starting the whole 98 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.600 partner label thing, you know, expanding it from beyond AGFA and some of 99 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:54.840 the others that were already there, and that that's how it happened, and 100 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.840 we decided to give a go to putting shot on video movies on Blu Ray. 101 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.240 You know, based sort of around the first ten or fifteen minutes of 102 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:11.240 Male Order Murder is sort of like trying to encompass the entire like camcorder movie 103 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.440 movement, like in the span of ten minutes, like right, So I 104 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:20.759 think based on that was sort of like, you know, are people interested 105 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:26.879 in these things? And they definitely are, whether or not they're interested in 106 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.919 them on Blu Ray as a whole another discussion, I guess. I watched 107 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.960 Male Order Murder again last night. This is my second or third time watching 108 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.759 it, and for those that haven't seen it, highly recommend it. It 109 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:45.440 is it is pretty much my favorite type of documentary and it's kind of hard 110 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.840 to it's not like a genre, but it's one of those things where it 111 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.440 is a group of people that I knew nothing about at that time, but 112 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.240 you can sense the sheer passion about what they were doing and how attached to 113 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:03.279 what they were and there's nothing negative about it at all. It's all presented 114 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.639 with a this is what was happening. They're happy. Look, how amazing 115 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.720 this is. Tadah, that's it. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. 116 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:24.679 If you're from New Jersey. It's sort of I don't know, we just 117 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:30.399 kind of took it for granted basically, and you know, it's just wave 118 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.080 is a thing that you know, everybody in Jersey knows about for the most 119 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:41.440 part, especially if you attend conventions and stuff. But he quickly realized that, 120 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:46.840 like, nobody outside of New Jersey really knows about this, and that 121 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.639 is what sort of spawned the whole thing. I mean, not to toot 122 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.159 my own horn, but I think that I may be one of the only 123 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:03.679 people that has been watching and buying and collecting wave movies, not for any 124 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:09.240 sexual proclivity whatsoever, just for the fact that to watch them as like brain 125 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:16.679 melting cinema, and so you know, I have probably two hundred and fifty 126 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.240 original wave tapes, which I was outside of like some pervert old man, 127 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:28.240 that's probably the largest play with collection that there is. But yeah, I 128 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:35.159 just I just always enjoyed watching that group of people have to, you know, 129 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:41.639 interact in the parameters of what some financier decided that, you know, 130 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.200 they should do that day. And I like the sort of played pretend aspect 131 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:52.720 of it. And obviously my partner William worked with Wave and directed Wave features, 132 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.759 and so when we hooked up and became good friends, I just was 133 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:01.000 constantly talking about Wave. We started watching Wave movies and I wanted to write 134 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:05.600 away book, and he convinced me that we should make a documentary, which 135 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.679 is what we did. I say, why not both, It's clear the 136 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.879 way you directed this that there is an obvious passion in it, and I 137 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.320 can't imagine how great a book could be, and so many of the stills 138 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:22.240 that could litter those pages. I'm assuming that there's a treasure trove of history 139 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.039 backtor Well, yeah, I mean, as you know, it's it's a 140 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:30.759 catalog of nearly four hundred features. We probably used about ten percent of those 141 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.840 features and clips in the movies, so it's never ending. I could still 142 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:41.720 be pulling clips for that documentary. It's a never ending treasure trove. I 143 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:48.720 guess to me, I think that this is the obvious clear way to get 144 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.360 into Saturn's core for anybody that's looking through any of these that have been released 145 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.120 so far. And obviously we only have ten here with an eleventh on the 146 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.759 way. But one big thing that you brought up already is making the jump 147 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:05.080 for mesov so Blu Ray. So I'm curious how and I'm not gonna put 148 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.639 this down that this is not meant as a gotcha or anything like that. 149 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:15.080 What do you use to rationalize putting shot on video on Blu Ray? Well, 150 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:20.240 to me, it just seems like that that's the format that everyone likes 151 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:26.639 to watch their movies in at this point, right, And I definitely feel 152 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.559 like there's I mean, there's been lots of companies that were doing them on 153 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:33.360 DVD, like a lot earlier than we were, of course, but there 154 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:41.919 seemed to be some back and forth about does anybody want this on you know, 155 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.639 SRS Cinema has been doing them on Blu Ray for a long time, 156 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.879 Ron Delly, But I think the most eye opening would probably make Flix. 157 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:56.399 Jared Bookwalter, I mean the results that he was getting on his releases was 158 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:03.440 pretty eye opening. And you know, if you uh, you know, 159 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.919 you can only do so much. As we put the warning on the boxes, 160 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.320 they're they're limited to the you know, to the format. You know, 161 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.360 you can only do so much. But you have to keep in mind 162 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:22.679 that these features were most cases edited using equipment that every time you laid music 163 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.519 in, every time you laid effects in, you're going down at generation, 164 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.840 down a generation, down a generation. So the versions of these movies that 165 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.360 we've all been watching for years, whether they be on DVD or vhs, 166 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:39.759 are third fourth generation in some cases. And when you use the technology that 167 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:46.000 you have now and do basically what you know we did with Shattered Dead and 168 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:54.000 take the original tapes and replace each shot which you know the director Speoter McCrae 169 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.480 oversaw and did. I mean, the results are pretty amazing. So, 170 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.679 I mean, certainly polarizing movie has its fans, has its taters, and 171 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.799 that's fine, but I think it's hard to deny, based on the DVDs 172 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.720 and tapes that have come out, that that is a huge jump in quality 173 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.919 from what we've seen previously. And the other thing is that you know, 174 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.080 we can load these things with special features like endlessly We're putting entire second movies 175 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.759 on there for people, trying to load them up with as much content so 176 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:35.559 that it's basically the be all end all release until the next format comes, 177 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:37.639 whatever that may be, then you'll get all of them on one disc. 178 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.320 Right. So, you know, when I'm talking to filmmakers and trying to 179 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.960 convince them to, you know, so let us put their movie out, 180 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.120 I basically say, you know this is let this be the be all end 181 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.960 all. Let this be a snapshot into that era of when you were making 182 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.759 this. So we want everything. We want your short films, your music 183 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:02.080 videos, your photos, you're you know, anything that you got, your 184 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:06.679 industrial videos and commercials, and like we can just load all that stuff on 185 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.159 the disc because we're not using the space to house you know, four K 186 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.559 transfers. So well, you took one of the things I was about to 187 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.840 say is I've had a lot of people ask me why, you know a 188 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.200 lot of the shot on video, Why would I buy it on Blu ray? 189 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.159 You know, we don't need it. It's not getting any quality uptick. 190 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.720 And there's two things I always tell them. The first is that DVD 191 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.440 is a lot more scratch resistant. They are way more prone to wear than 192 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.600 blue rays. The format itself, it is leaps and bounds, and a 193 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.960 lot of people that haven't made that jump truly don't understand that. Yeah, 194 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:44.960 but the storage man, that is the biggest argument is I I was really 195 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:51.279 ready with this long list of thank you simply to you, because the amount 196 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:56.440 of content on some of these discs is fucking mind blowing. It is ridiculous 197 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:02.960 what is on here. And I mean literally multiple films, tons of you 198 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.599 know, behind the scenes featurettes, interviews, an old late night you know 199 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.559 showing up on some public access TV show. It's incredible everything you're getting for 200 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:17.880 these And I think that alone is enough to welcome this as like a win 201 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:23.000 for archival reasons, right, that's another reason. Yeah, Yeah, I'm 202 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.160 blown away. I really wish people would actually make the jump into check some 203 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.279 of these out and hence wanting to have you on here. I've been wanting 204 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.079 this for a long time, and I really once I got a couple more 205 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.279 under my belt, I was like, Okay, now I can finally come 206 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.519 up and talk and reach out. And I mean, this is I think 207 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.519 legitimately one of the most important partner labels that we have right now. Because 208 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.960 of how much could be lost if we don't shine a light on some of 209 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.440 these creators. Yeah, and and with a lot of these movies, you 210 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:56.319 know, we're scanning and encoding these master tapes and I mean we're baking them 211 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.680 because they're destroyed to get the image off of them. So like, this 212 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:06.880 stuff is on the verge of disappearing, so let's preserve it, let's archive 213 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.279 it. And for the people that love this stuff, which is a large 214 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.880 audience, they they love having this stuff with the fancy slip cover and stuff 215 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:21.079 exactly. It's you know, like I said, it's not for everybody, 216 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:26.000 and that's fine, but and I'm seeing that, you know, I think 217 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.200 it's helping to turn the corner seeing that, you know. I mean, 218 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:36.240 Severn just put out a shot on video movie on Blu Ray, so you 219 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.519 know where previously all of theirs Interivision stuff was DVD. So I think we're 220 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:47.000 gonna see more of it, which I think it's cool. I agree, 221 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.319 And I think that a lot of that as you guys to think for it. 222 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.839 So I'm curious because I enjoyed this so damn much. Is there anything 223 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.119 else like this in your future? Any other documentaries you want to work on. 224 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:06.559 I mean that is uh, definitely something we want to explore. I 225 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.839 mean we're still you know, the Saturn's Core thing has kept us pretty busy, 226 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.440 I'm sure, especially with the amount of releases we've done. But you 227 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.680 know, we certainly plan at some point of doing a now a documentary. 228 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:25.359 It's just a matter of finding the right topic and at you know, I'm 229 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:29.640 with you, you know, I love movies, documentaries about making movies, 230 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.160 so it would probably be something in that vein. But we're still kind of 231 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:38.279 writing the Wave of Mail or Murder. We were just nominated for a Fangloria 232 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:44.839 chainsaw Award for Best Documentary, so I saw that's awesome. Uh, curious 233 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:51.319 on that too, the way the documentary was made. How how do a 234 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.680 lot of these people look back on their work, because some of them, 235 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.720 some of the bigger names, you can tell that they they look at it 236 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.799 fairly fondly, and a couple of them with minor like why anybody into this? 237 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.480 But uh, what what do you get the general feel from a lot 238 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.960 of these people. I think it's a mixed boat. You're talking about the 239 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.799 people from Wave that are like in Mail or Murder. Ye, I think 240 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:17.880 it's a mixed boat. I mean some most of them look back obviously, 241 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.400 look back on it fondly. Anyone who doesn't wasn't said no, you know 242 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.960 what I mean, like I don't want to appear in your doc write so 243 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.319 which was very few. It's probably like two people that said though from from 244 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:38.519 the Wave Gang, because Gary is still making Wave movie, you know, 245 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:44.279 and like it's all the same girls, like they're still doing it, so 246 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:49.279 obviously it's not a thing that they look back on poorly. And obviously, 247 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:55.559 you know, the interesting thing is that they all became scream queens like their 248 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.359 their job is acting, you know what I mean. So like they got 249 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:04.680 their star doing some silly shit with Wave for sure, but like now they're 250 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:11.880 you know, actresses that act for a living. So you know, I 251 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:17.880 think most all look at it fondly. And you could see some of them 252 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.839 think that it's good work and some of them think that it's ridiculous work, 253 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:26.480 and you know, both have their merits. So one of I mean, 254 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.720 the scream queen aspect was one of my favorite parts of the documentary. When 255 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:37.079 you had somebody show up at a convention and suddenly have notoriety from literally doing 256 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.279 if I understood it right, literally one film. Yeah, and that, 257 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.160 I mean, that's such an amazing turn for somebody to go from away film 258 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:52.359 into scream queen status. The nineties was an interesting time for scream queens. 259 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.640 I mean, obviously, you know we had Linea and Brink and Michelle from 260 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.759 the eighties. But you know where I am in North Jersey, We're right 261 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:06.039 by Chiller Theater, and Chiller Theater was wild, man. I mean, 262 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.720 you could be a scream queen and not even have been in a movie there. 263 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.839 We're just like scantily clad girls there, like signing autographs like it didn't 264 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:18.720 really matter. It was a very interesting place for the creation of instant scream 265 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.880 queens. You know, the wild wild West of scream queens. I love 266 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.319 it. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean the big thing. Have 267 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.480 you guys even missed a month with the release since you put out Mail Order 268 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.480 Murder? I don't put out so many. I don't believe we have, 269 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.119 but I could be wrong, but that that is such an immense accomplishment for 270 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.359 jumping in feet first into something like this, I mean with Mail Order Murder. 271 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.839 Obviously, on a documentary like that, you hope that you're going to 272 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.079 get the interest, but to follow that up with I mean, we're up 273 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.720 to already ten more releases, and assuming there's a lot more on the way, 274 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.599 that is an incredible start. That's amazing. Thanks. Well. I 275 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:06.920 mean a big part of it is the filmmakers that we're working with like our 276 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.680 friends. They're my friends too, you know what I mean. So, 277 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:14.799 like, there are people that I've been communicating with as a fan for many, 278 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.960 many years, and in a lot of cases, in the case of 279 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:26.519 Psychosisters and Savage Harvest, we did them on tape already, so there was 280 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.920 already a relationship there to say, hey, we have this opportunity, are 281 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.920 you interested in doing this on Blu Ray? And so a lot of it 282 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:41.000 was just sort of like checking back in with people to see if they were 283 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.079 interested in wouldn't be I mean, you know, the audience for these things 284 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:53.039 was always so small, and now is the opportunity for probably hundreds of people 285 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:59.480 to check these movies out, and you know, probably hundreds of them are 286 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.240 going to hate it and never want to see another movie by that filmmaker. 287 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:08.400 But there is gonna be a majority of a small majority of people that are 288 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.759 gonna be like, wow, this is cool, Like I want to see 289 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.440 what else this guy or this gal made, and you know, check out 290 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.599 what they're doing now, because a lot of these people are still making movies 291 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:25.400 today. So I don't necessarily want to have you go through every single one, 292 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.720 But is there certain releases that stand out as maybe not just somebody's entrance 293 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.720 into so OV, but maybe an entrance into Saturn's core that represent you personally 294 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:41.279 more than any of the others. Well, obviously the wave stuff we've done 295 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:51.880 is very decisive, but I mean, I our aesthetic is basically either really 296 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:59.519 innovative stuff or like really brain damage stuff. So we're kind of like it's 297 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.880 one or the other. And that's sort of where you know, my love 298 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:10.319 and film altogether kind of is. So you know, I mean to me, 299 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:18.680 Shattered Dead is one of the greatest, most innovative, thought provoking, 300 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:25.160 never mind shot on video films, just independent films, zombie film like no 301 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:32.119 other. And this is the back for everybody that doesn't have it, and 302 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:37.000 so, uh, you know, Scooter's work is really amazing. The movies 303 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:42.119 of Charles Pinion, Red Spirit Lake and we await, I mean, Charles 304 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.160 is someone that I've been a fan of for a really long time, and 305 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:53.799 you know it is not only part of the shot on Video Universe, but 306 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.480 was also you know, tapped into the sort of New York underground on cinema 307 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:06.880 transgression scene. So really great soundtrack, very interesting cast if you're into underground 308 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:15.160 movies, and just super innovative and weird. Brad from Vinegar Syndrome was on 309 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:19.720 here just a few weeks ago and really talked up Burglar from Hell. What 310 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.440 do you what is your personal history with that one. I have a pretty 311 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:32.079 deep history with Burglar from Hell. Obviously, I'm a fan from the VHS 312 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:38.480 days, and I screamed Burglar from Hell at the Alamo Draft House here in 313 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:45.640 New York, and we did that several years ago, and then I screamed 314 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.359 it again at the Morning Drive In Outdoors on the Giant drive in screen, 315 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.359 and so I've been kind of pushing Burglar from Hell along and singing its praises 316 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:02.880 over the years, and so doing it we did it on tape, and 317 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.880 doing it on a Blu ray was sort of a no brainer. What was 318 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.960 holding us back was that the Masters were believed to be destroyed, oh no, 319 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:17.480 Superstorm Sandy, so there was really nothing to work with and then Lo 320 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.680 and Behold, like Kiss met. Right around the time that the Saturn's Core 321 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.200 Thing Blu Ray thing happened, the director Phil Hermann found a box in his 322 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:34.039 closet with the SVHS master of Burger from Hell and he's never before released the 323 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.839 debut the Wrong Side of the Town, Wrong Side of Town, which is 324 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:42.240 also on the disk, and a few others. So the masters were just 325 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:48.920 recently unearthed, and that's what prompted us to do a Blu ray. That 326 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.039 is amazing. And from what I remember, Sandy seemed to take out like 327 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.039 a crazy amount of masters, and not just like smaller things like this. 328 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.759 There's a lot of random ass movies that were just lost during that storm. 329 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:07.799 Yeah, certainly here on the East Coast we hear that a lot from filmmakers 330 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.480 when we reach out for either art or masters or things, you know, 331 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.599 with tapes obviously destroyed and it's just like you know, with film, it 332 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.960 happens. So that was a wild week. I it was, I believe 333 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.640 it was twenty twelve when that happened. I worked for the federal government and 334 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:32.079 I was a part of some leadership training thing and I had to fly into 335 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.119 d C twice and the second time. I flew in on Sunday, and 336 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.519 that was the weekend that Sandy hit. So I went there and I was 337 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.559 staying in the hotel right next to FEMA headquarters. Yeah, that was a 338 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.759 weird time. I lost like half of my seminar because of the storm. 339 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:56.079 Yeah, so obviously you have all kinds of stuff. Oh there is this 340 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.640 one got announced and all kinds of people were up in arms over what it 341 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:07.480 was about. Why don't you share some thoughts about Duck? Okaycre Yeah, 342 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:15.599 I mean Duck is a movie that is very infamous here on the East Coast. 343 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.559 Obviously, it was directed by William Hellfire, who is the co owner 344 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:26.240 of Saturn's Core and my directing partner on Mail or Murder. And it's probably 345 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:33.839 his most known film because it was made literally weeks after the Columbine tragedy, 346 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:40.319 and it's again it's a very decisive film. You know, some people are 347 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:45.319 appalled by it, and people say that it shouldn't exist, and you know, 348 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.839 and I don't really feel that any movie shouldn't exist. You know, 349 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.599 if the drive Ins were still alive, there would have been a Columbine movie. 350 00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.359 There would have been a nine to eleven movie. You know, exploitative 351 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:07.880 movie. So that's what Duck is. And obviously, you know, William 352 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:14.880 was arrested when making it, and so it got all over the news here. 353 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:22.960 It was on every news station, hard copy and Nancy Grace and and 354 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.119 you know, I mean, we had all of that news stuff, and 355 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:32.480 we have the masters for Duck, and you know the he has the rights, 356 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:37.200 So it was one of the Yeah, it was one of the first 357 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:44.160 things that we discussed when we wanted to start doing Blu rays was doing done 358 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:49.799 so and every time it comes out its controvers It was when it came out 359 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:56.319 on DVD, it was pulled from Best Buy, and it's just everywhere it 360 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:03.359 goes still because you know, from what it was made to now, the 361 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.759 school shooting thing has not gotten any better. It's just got worse. So 362 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.960 it continues to be controversial everywhere goes. And again it's not for everybody, 363 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:18.599 but we think that it's important and worth checking out. So I pretty much 364 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.240 feel the same way about any type of movie like that. And it's important 365 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:29.279 to really remember how much art can play a role in I mean shared like 366 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.160 Catharsis, as a society, as a country, as a family. There's 367 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.000 so many different things, and people have a different way to cope. And 368 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.680 you don't have to watch everything. You don't have to. I mean, 369 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.279 if it puts you off, don't watch it. But there's you know, 370 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.359 one thing I say on here all the time is that everybody is Every film 371 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:52.480 has been somebody's favorite film, and even something like Duck somebody has found an 372 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.559 immense appreciation for sure, guaranteed. Yeah, So for you as a person, 373 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.880 maybe outside of SOOV, what are some some other major films that have 374 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:07.359 shaped you? I mean I like all kinds of stuff from the uh you 375 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:14.279 know, artsist fartsist art films, the you know, Criterion stuff too, 376 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:19.680 obviously, the you know, dregs of the cinematic bottom of the barrel. 377 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.720 But you know, some of my favorite filmmakers are probably you know, outside 378 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.480 of the the you know, s O. V. Realm Are, Lars 379 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:37.480 von Trier, Alejandro Jodorowski, Andreas Lawawski. But you know, I mean 380 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.799 I love Argento and Folci and Sergio Martino and all the Italian stuff and all 381 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.920 the classic horror that everybody loves, like Carpenter and Craven and all of that 382 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:59.039 stuff. So, uh, just about everything. I'm probably more tough on 383 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.319 mainstream stuff than I am. You know, like I'll I'll get in there 384 00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.400 and you know, critique a Christopher Nolan movie, you know, real good. 385 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.880 But you know then I'll come home and you know, watch splatterfuck. 386 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.240 So you almost have to critique those movies, I mean, take them down 387 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.200 a notch, make them understand that they're just a movie, just like everything 388 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.799 else. Right, And I watch I mean pre Pandemic. I went to 389 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.440 the movies every week. I see all the art house movies that come out, 390 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:29.599 and you know, do my little top fifteen list every year. So 391 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:36.880 I'm watching everything both genre and you know, our house pretty much. So 392 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.720 that's fantastic. I again just want to share how much I'm excited that stuff 393 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.920 like this continues to come out. It is again, I don't really understand 394 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.119 why the whole shot on video on Blu Ray is controversial, especially when you 395 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.079 dig into why there's so much that you can fill on these discs and the 396 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.160 storage alone is mind blowing that you can do with it. So I thank 397 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:07.239 you. I commend you for Saturn's Core. Obviously it's called Saturn's Core Audio 398 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.280 and Video. What other stuff can people look into to support you that's not 399 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.599 on the VINEGERSONERM website because obviously a lot of these people are going to one 400 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.519 site and buying everything and calling it today. But you're bigger than that. 401 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.719 Yeah, I mean, we have a big cartel site where we put the 402 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.960 tapes in and stuff. Most of our stuff was super limited, so it's 403 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:32.559 mostly sold out, but there are a few where the directors did not request 404 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.000 them to be limited, so there are some tapes on there that people can 405 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:44.840 buy. Beyond that, I contribute to other companies discs and stuff. I 406 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.960 do a lot with make Flix, Jare book Walter do a lot of commentary. 407 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.880 I write all the liner notes for his releases and stuff like that. 408 00:34:54.519 --> 00:35:00.440 And beyond that, you know, we Saturn's Core is the co host year 409 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.880 along with lunch Meat magazine for the VHS Fest at the Mahoning drive In, 410 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:09.320 so anyone that's on the East Coast. It's a two day thing where we 411 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:17.440 play VHS error movies at the drive in on the huge outdoor screen projected from 412 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.920 VHS tapes, So we literally put the tape in the VCR and then it 413 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.400 plays on the giant drive in screen and we bring out guests. We've had 414 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:32.920 Liney Quickly and Fred Olin Ray and Mark Polonia and Jared Bookwalter and lots of 415 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.280 people that directed Saturn's quorter movies like Eric Stanzy and pe Chack Alone and they 416 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:44.159 DISTI own and we do it every year. It's July eighth and ninth at 417 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.480 the Mahoning drive in. This year, you line up and guests have not 418 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.800 been announced, and it's two days. During the day, it's a giant 419 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.440 physical media swap meet, so I mean it's mostly tapes and tape training, 420 00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:01.480 but there are lots of DVDs and blue rays there that is awesome. I 421 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.920 got to ask, how does something like Burglar from Hell play for a crowd 422 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.880 at a drive in. I mean, people that come to that event know 423 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.800 what's up. You know, they know that they're going to watch some pretty 424 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:17.480 brain damage and ship. So the more brain damaged it is usually the better 425 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:23.880 it goes over. So Burglar from Help played great, and uh you know, 426 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.719 like I said, we played Savage Harvest on the giant outdoor screen and 427 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.840 uh, you know, we've done all kinds of stuff, killing spree and 428 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.559 all kinds of wild stuff. That is another one. A lot of people 429 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.079 complained that it was coming out on Blu Ray and we're saying this is shot 430 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.159 on video. Why is it on Blu Ray? It's not shot on video. 431 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.880 That's one of the biggest misconceptions the entire micro budget movie scene. Is 432 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:58.039 that Killing Spree and Truth and Truth or dare shot on video. I don't 433 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.880 know why, but I don't get it. Just the thing. All you 434 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.400 gotta do is go on IMDb and click the button that says format and you'll 435 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.119 see there's a bunch of them. I mean Leaf Jonker's Darkness, which were 436 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.360 shot on Super eight Wisconsin. I've seen like Horror Hound Magazine put that, 437 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:20.280 like top sovs and others, The Abomination and you know a lot of Super 438 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.159 eight stuff seems to get sort of mixed in. I mean it's similar aesthetic. 439 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:30.360 But yeah, no reason that Killing Spree should not be on You're right, 440 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.039 and it looks great. I mean that new release that just came out 441 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.000 from TerrorVision looks fantastic. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, No Resistance you just 442 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.679 announced that one. Can you dive in and try to get some people hyped 443 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.880 up for that, maybe sell some copies. Sure, No Resistance is one 444 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.719 that I it's from nineteen ninety four, and it's another one that I saw 445 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.599 right around that time that just totally blew my mind. I mean, at 446 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.719 the time it was a a cyberpunk thing, so it seemed very futuristic, 447 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.480 and now it's sort of, you know, not so futuristic, but it 448 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.840 still was very prophetic in a lot of ways about what was going to happen 449 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:22.000 with technology. And the director, Tim Thompson is an incredibly intelligent, smart 450 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:29.000 guy, and I had contacted him about doing a tape way back and we 451 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.119 were just talking and talking about it and never got around to it, and 452 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.280 then when the Blu Ray thing came, it was like a perfect opportunity to 453 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:42.360 do it. But you know, obviously it gets comparisons to Blade Runner and 454 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.920 stuff, but yes, it's it's shot on video, so it's it's not 455 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.719 Blade Runner, but it's definitely you know, I I usually put it in 456 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:59.840 the realm of like dead Beat a don it's probably Yeah, it's probably the 457 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.119 first thing that we've done that is you know, sort of in the action 458 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.039 realm and in the sci fi realm and kind of less horror. Definitely not 459 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:15.599 slasher, but if you like the boundary pushing innovative s ofv stuff that we've 460 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:22.800 done, like Shattered Dead like the Charles Pinion stuff. No Resistance like fits 461 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.079 in that aesthetic like so perfectly. And I think that the reason why people 462 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:35.639 are a little unsure about it is because it's like never been released on physical 463 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.119 media basically, right, it was released on a VHS tape but was like 464 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:46.360 basically just distributed regionally around Texas. So there has never been a DVD and 465 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.559 obviously has never been a Blu ray and the tape, I mean, I 466 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.400 have one, but I don't know any other human besides the filmmakers that happen. 467 00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.599 So, and we're gonna be doing a lot of that Saturn's core. 468 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.840 It's something we did with the v Chess releases that I want to continue with 469 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.760 the Blu rays is basically putting out stuff that has never been out period, 470 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:15.639 either was distributed through mail order or just regionally or in some cases never at 471 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:22.920 all. So there's gonna be more of that stuff coming. But yeah, 472 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:30.360 if you like edgy cyberpunk action stuff, No Resistance is a hot ticket. 473 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.760 And the trailer looks great, genuinely looks like a very exciting release for you 474 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:42.840 guys. Again, loaded all kinds of commentaries and interviews and music video featurettes. 475 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.320 I think I saw on there just all kinds of stuff on here and 476 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.920 it's region free, so anybody can purchase this one, multiple music videos looking 477 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.920 at it now, trailers. So he was a Houston He's from Houston, 478 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:58.960 right, I know it's set in Houston. Yeah. Yeah. Did they 479 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:00.960 have a big scene like that to what's that? Did they have a big 480 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.400 s of v scene down there? There were somewhere, but yeah, yeah. 481 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.880 But you know, with Tim, he kind of had a little group, 482 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.920 was a lunatic fringe. His writing partners are the actors in the films, 483 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:24.320 and they had a little collective. They made No Resistance. They did 484 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:31.760 another short afterwards that was part of one of the Creature Realm movies, which 485 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.320 was like a shot on video anthology that Kevin Lindamith made. So that's the 486 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.800 only other Tim Thompson thing that's kind of been released on vhs and stuff. 487 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:50.760 But this definitely has the best I would I would say the best featurette that 488 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:57.760 we've had on any release so far. The Cyberpunk You Jimbo featurette with Tim 489 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:04.480 Thompson is pretty amazing. The whole history of the project with tons of photos 490 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.639 and like the whole backstory of the whole production. So that's the kind of 491 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.360 thing I love. I can't wait to dive into that one when I get 492 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.840 it at the end of the month. Again, I'm going to link the 493 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.440 store below and other than that, other than linking all the releases or is 494 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.199 anything else you want people to share get excited about for the future. I 495 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.840 know you can't reveal any titles, but anything that you can tease or allude 496 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.639 to. I mean, we've got a lot coming and you know, we're 497 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.280 going to continue to do it as long as they let us do it, 498 00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.760 and you know, we hope people dig it. And you know, I 499 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.760 just want to thank everybody that's been checking them out. And you know, 500 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.320 I mean people that love shot on video movies are the easy ones to get 501 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.480 because everybody wants this stuff. You know, has the overall has the response 502 00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:04.480 been decent? I'm I'm happy, you know. You know, some of 503 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.000 our slipcovers are getting low in numbers and stuff, so I think people are 504 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:16.239 are checking stuff out, and you know you can usually get them at conventions 505 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:21.159 and stuff, you know where vinegar syndromen c end titles are set up, 506 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.880 so a lot of people are checking them out that way, which is really 507 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:30.320 cool. And again because of O c N. You can get these literally 508 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.519 Amazon, you can get them through tart last I checked, right, they're 509 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:38.480 all for sale yeah, Amazon, targeting on Target, Walmart online obviously. 510 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.400 You know. Wait, I can't get Burglar from Hell in store at Walmart 511 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.840 be able to special order, no slipcover. Uh yeah, that's right. 512 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.880 Again. I there's not much else I can do other than you just constantly 513 00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.079 praise you because there is so much that you can feel. The passion and 514 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.119 the connection to a lot of these come through, and when when a label 515 00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.119 comes out that genuinely gives that off, it is so exciting and so easy 516 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:13.320 to attach to because you if you watch enough of them, you feel like 517 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.719 you're involved. You feel like you're somebody that has immersed themselves in this culture, 518 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.119 in this brand and been a part of it. And you, even 519 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.320 just ten releases deep, are clearly giving that off. Thank you. Yeah, 520 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.599 And I mean, you know, Bill and I are curating the saturns 521 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.440 core stuff, and like we're just releasing movies that we like. So everything 522 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.239 that we release, you know, we're not looking to release every shot on 523 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.000 video movie ever made, that is, but we're just trying to put stuff 524 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.800 out that we love and kind of say, hey, you know, this 525 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.719 one we think is important. Check it out, see what you think. 526 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:53.400 You know. So everything that we put out comes with my sealing of approval 527 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.480 anyway. It's genuinely a movie that I love that I'm very passionate about, 528 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.519 which is why I, you know, weasel my way into the commentaries and 529 00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:08.320 everything. So, uh, last, just last ditch pitch out of the 530 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:12.639 ten that'll come out already, is there one that maybe people are not appreciating 531 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.840 as much as you think they should and you hope they jump onto. I 532 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:23.119 mean, I feel like they've all been appreciated about the same. I guess 533 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.719 probably one that we didn't talk about, a Savage Harvest, which you also 534 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:37.119 have a long long history with. It's you know, Eric Stanzy is still 535 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.360 making movies that are totally incredible, and he's to me, is just like 536 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.239 the indie Cronenberg. Like the guy just has been making movies since the early 537 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.639 nineties and he just puts one out every two or three years and they're all 538 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.079 amazing. They're all genre, but you can watch his progression as a filmmaker. 539 00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:02.119 Like obviously Savage Harvest is like unevil dead type ump with chainsaw violence and 540 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.079 demons and all kinds of crazy shit. But like he is, you know, 541 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.840 at this point, he is making like really challenging, thought provoking genre 542 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:19.719 fair So Savage Harvest is a good place to start with with Eric's work, 543 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.760 and then just I recommend everybody just follow it to where he's at now. 544 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:29.800 His latest is called In Memory Of and it's absolutely amazing. So I love 545 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.719 his stuff and I'm really happy to be working with him. So it's one 546 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.400 of the cool things about not just shot on video, but a lot of 547 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.480 the indie stuff that seems to go into the radar for a lot of people 548 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.880 is the the budget limitations really kind of inspires that the obvious creativity that is 549 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.920 required for some of these because you want shots, but you don't have one 550 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.199 hundred thousand dollars to make a shot, so you have to go and find 551 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.760 a way to you know, literally, like in Mail Order Murder, you 552 00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.559 smear cow liver across your belly to make it look like you're being ripped apart 553 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.440 or something, and it's it makes it that much more tangible in such a 554 00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:07.639 beautiful way. At the end of the day, Yeah, you could see 555 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.639 a lot of innovation and stuff, and you know, a lot of thought 556 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.239 put put into stuff, and then on the flip of the coin, there's 557 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.400 like there's no one to censor anybody and be like no, like you shouldn't 558 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.840 you know, have sex with that ventral I was dummy, Like, you 559 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.519 know, like there's just anything can happen in some of these and some of 560 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.079 them are just so jaw dropping that like they hurt your brain. So and 561 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.639 then, like I said, that's kind of the the the gamut that we're 562 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.719 running is like, you know, really what we consider to be important. 563 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.280 And you know, I'm not going to sit here and tell anybody that sororitians 564 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.679 sorority slaughter is like an important piece of work. It is what it is. 565 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.320 It's you know, they wash a car for like six minutes, you 566 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.280 know, but there was nobody there to be like, no, you can't. 567 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.039 You can't wash a car for six minutes, you know. So it 568 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.960 is a brain damaging, you know, in the same way that champagne and 569 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.760 bullets is. You know, it has its charm, so right, that 570 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.639 is something to keep in mind with a lot of these things. Obviously they 571 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.039 had a reason to be made. Most of them have found an audience, 572 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.239 and perhaps you could be a part of that audience. So please check out 573 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:21.920 Saturn's Core all the links from the description below. Ross, thank you so 574 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.840 much for your time. I've appreciated everything. You're fantastic. Thanks Ryan, 575 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.880 thanks for having me on the show. I appreciate it happily. Hopefully we 576 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.360 can talk again soon and until next time, Like I always say, from 577 00:48:31.360 --> 00:49:00.159 one collector to all of you, have a good night. Tell me no