1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Check it out college football on the West Coast. This is Get Off My 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,880 Pylon, a look at the PAC twelve and more, part of the College 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:18,719 Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network. Here's your host, Matt zemon Welcome to 4 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:23,239 the latest edition of the Get Off My Pylon college football podcast, part of 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,320 the College Gridiron Coast Coast to Coast podcast network. This is your host, 6 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:33,399 Matt Zemik. College Gridiron Coast to Coast features podcasts from the Big Twelve the 7 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:38,079 Big Ten like you want to hear Mark Rogers in Big Ten Paradigm for Michigan 8 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:43,880 and Ohio State. For example, Yards and Stripes has Army Navy not too 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,119 far away now Yards and Stripes looking at the service academies. Check out all 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,000 of the great college Gridiron Coast to Coast podcasts on our network. Get Off 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,200 My Pilon looks at college football on the West and so we're getting down to 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 the nitty gritty PAC twelve in Mountain West and let's hit the big topics and 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,560 of course the really big story. Washington Oregon State, Big time game. 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,480 It was not played well, but it certainly was close. It certainly was 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,719 dramatic, and when the smoke cleared, and when the rain cleared in Corvallis, 16 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:21,879 Washington stayed unbeaten. And it's a continuation of a theme not just for 17 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:29,079 the Huskies but for throughout college football in the various conferences that the top teams 18 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:34,200 are not dominating, they don't look great, but they're winning, they're not 19 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:40,480 losing, they're avoiding the land mines, they're avoiding the trip and the tricks. 20 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:46,200 Washington certainly didn't look great. The Huskies were once again there for the 21 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,000 taking. But you know, we've been saying this for several weeks now, 22 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:53,040 and I certainly thought Oregon State was gonna win and Oregon State was not good 23 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:01,120 enough, and Washington really managed to buckle up on defense and keep Oregon State 24 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:06,239 at bay. The Beers seem to control the ball for nearly the whole second 25 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:12,080 half, but they scored only ten points. And so even though Washington got 26 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,120 shut out in the second half and scored only twenty two points for the game, 27 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,039 it was enough to win. And that's what matters. And people are 28 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,639 going to have a very familiar debate between the eye test and the resume, 29 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:30,080 and you know, looking at the eye test, Washington doesn't blow you away, 30 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:37,360 but the resume the actual results. Washington's results are better than anyone else's 31 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 in the country. They have the win over Oregon, they have the win 32 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,680 over Utah, they have the win now over Oregon State. On the road, 33 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:51,039 they have a road win at USC and US he's not very good, 34 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,319 but like us, he's still a seven and five team. Like, that's 35 00:02:54,319 --> 00:03:00,240 not a bad win, it's just isn't a great win. But Washington since 36 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,879 win at Arizona keeps looking better and better and better. So like, the 37 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,400 Huskies have the best collection of results in the country, but they're not gonna 38 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:15,439 blow you away with the eye test. And it's that familiar debate that we 39 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,919 have every season in college football. You know, well, what would Washington 40 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:24,719 be favored on a neutral field against Georgia. Of course not, no way, 41 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:30,479 it would never happen. Georgia would rightly be installed as a solid Vegas 42 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,400 favorite over Washington at least a touchdown, maybe nine points, maybe ten. 43 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:45,240 But do you rank teams based on Vegas odds and what you predict would happen, 44 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,639 or do you value the results and the quality of competition that you play 45 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,400 and beat every week? And Washington has that quality. Washington in a deep 46 00:03:55,479 --> 00:04:02,319 Pac twelve has the better collection of results. You know, this was a 47 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:09,199 down year for Tennessee. Tennessee's not very good this year, Kentucky not very 48 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:15,959 good this season, Florida not very good, LSU not very good, not 49 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,560 terrible. But you know, the Tigers are an okay team, They're not 50 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,560 not especially good team. And we certainly thought that LSU would win ten or 51 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,439 eleven games this season. Hasn't happened now. Of course, if Georgia beats 52 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:33,879 Alabama in the SEC Championship game, like that would be a real high end 53 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:40,639 win because Alabama has turned the corner under Nick Saban, looking like Alabama's gonna 54 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:44,759 finish the regular season eleven and one. So if Georgia beats Alabama, then 55 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,160 we can revisit the conversation. But right now, right now, Washington certainly 56 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:55,120 has the best collection of results. You could also put Ohio State into that 57 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:01,079 conversation with the wins over Notre Dame and and also Penn State, But of 58 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:05,680 course Notre Dame was not nearly as good this year as many people anticipated, 59 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:11,160 so the value of that win also has to be put in context. There 60 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:17,120 are certain limitations surrounding that particular result, so Washington, you know, has 61 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:24,879 not looked extremely impressive. The Huskies keep playing at like a B C plus 62 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,360 level where they're vulnerable. They're there for the taking, but no one can 63 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,879 take them down. And it's something that we've seen with Florida State. It's 64 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:35,959 something that we've seen with Georgia, you know, which struggled against Missouri and 65 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:42,399 Auburn and a few other opponents. But no one's been able to find the 66 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:46,639 secret sauce to be able to outplay these top teams for sixty whole minutes and 67 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,759 make the handful of plays that are going to make the difference. The top 68 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:57,639 teams are managing to survive each and every week. You know, Ohio State, 69 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,759 file State has not been dominant. I mean that game again, Ohio 70 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,079 State played against Penn State. If a Penn State scoop and score is not 71 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:12,560 nullified by a holding penalty in the secondary, Penn State wins that game in 72 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,600 Columbus, Ohio State scored only twenty. You know, Michigan's offense was not 73 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:20,759 very good against Penn State. Michigan didn't throw a pass in the final two 74 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:25,800 and a half quarters of that game in Happy Valley, and the Michigan offense 75 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:30,720 was very limited, but Penn State offense couldn't do a darn thing. Michigan 76 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:34,120 wins there, So you know, the Wolverines are also part of this dynamic 77 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,519 where even if their offense is struggling, they're able to shut down the opposing 78 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,360 offenses that they're going up against. I mean, Big Ten offenses throughout the 79 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:50,040 conference have been poor this season, so lots of unbeaten teams that haven't looked 80 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,040 dynamic, haven't looked elite. I don't think there's a single great team in 81 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:58,279 college football. Georgia fans are going to say, hey, we were back 82 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,120 to back national champions and we've looked great in recent weeks. Well, Georgia 83 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,079 did look great in recent weeks, but over the course of the full season. 84 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,800 You know, that Missouri game was extremely close the whole way, and 85 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:18,040 the South Carolina game was a question midway through the third quarter, and Georgia 86 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:25,480 and Auburn were tied late in that game in Jordenhare Stadium earlier in the season. 87 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,319 This Georgia team is significantly weaker than twenty twenty two. Now that that 88 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,839 doesn't mean that Georgia isn't the best team in the country, because I'd say 89 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:39,480 the Bulldogs are. You know, Georgia should be considered like the team, 90 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,800 the team to beat, and you have to beat the best in order to 91 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:46,519 be the best. It's like Georgia looks like the best team in the eye 92 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:54,319 test, but certainly not as convincing as last season. So relative to this 93 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:58,519 year's field, Georgia is the best. But that doesn't mean Georgia is just 94 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,879 as good as it was last year. No, this is clearly a weaker 95 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:07,879 Georgia team. Twenty twenty two Georgia with Stetson Bennett and that particular collection of 96 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,120 talent handles twenty twenty three Georgia quite easily in my mind. But we're not 97 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,199 playing the twenty twenty two season. We're playing twenty twenty three. So Georgia 98 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:20,360 looks like the best team, but there are no great teams, and Washington 99 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:26,120 is one of a few unbeaten teams that just keeps finding ways to win each 100 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,680 week. Let's dig into that Oregon State game a little more. One of 101 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,320 the big stories coming out of this game in Corvallis is that, you know 102 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:43,240 dj Uyangalawa, He's had a solid year overall at with Oregon State, and 103 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,720 you know, the Oregon States lost to Washington State earlier in the season. 104 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:50,240 That wasn't Uyangalaway's fault. Oregon State scored thirty five points in that game. 105 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:54,799 That that was a game in which Oregon State had a rare off day on 106 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:01,960 defense, and so Uyangalawa generally did his for most of the season, but 107 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,519 this was a spotlight game. This was a statement game against Washington would Uyangalaala, 108 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,519 who came to Clemson, you know, in pursuit of national championships, 109 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,559 being the successor taking the torch from Trevor Lawrence. You know, he certainly 110 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:26,120 envisioned national championships in his career at Clemson. That was the bar being set 111 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,840 for him. I mean, when you go to a program such as Clemson, 112 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:33,840 when you go play for Dabos Swiney, you're playing for national championships. 113 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,080 And so after the failures of the past few years, Uyangile transfers to Oregon 114 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,519 State. And we talked about this in the off season, and we talked 115 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,399 about it early in the season as well here on the Get Off My Pylon 116 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,399 College Football podcast with Jonathan Smith, head coach at Oregon State, would he 117 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:58,240 be able to turn DJ uyangala into not just a decent quarterback he did that, 118 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:01,440 but a great quarterback, quarterback who could reach the next level, a 119 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:07,759 quarterback who could really transform everything for Oregon State. Could he lead this program 120 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:13,720 to the top of the PAC twelve and you know, author a story which 121 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:20,039 would make huge national headlines. Would Jonathan Smith's big gamble on dj uyangala A 122 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:28,159 become one of the great turning points in Oregon State football history? Would it 123 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:33,120 reshape this PAC twelve season? Well, we got our verdict, We got 124 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:37,240 our answer very clearly in this game against Washington. It was a loud and 125 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:43,240 resounding no that uyangalale A did not play anywhere close to the level he or 126 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Jonathan Smith hoped for. And it was really bizarre to see late in the 127 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,799 game in the fourth quarter twenty twenty, Oregon State just needed a field goal 128 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:58,320 to win. The Beavers had a chance to be very methodical in terms of 129 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,399 how they move the ball down the field. Didn't have to take big chances 130 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,039 in the passing game like they should have been working the tight ends in the 131 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,720 middle third of the field. They should have been checking down to running backs 132 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:16,360 going for five yard six yard patterns like those passes should have been there. 133 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:22,519 That's what Oregon State and Jonathan Smith and the offensive brain trust should have been 134 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:28,960 pursuing. But instead you saw uyangli Lay chucking the ball down the field left 135 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:35,600 sideline, right sideline. Oregon State was throwing the ball twenty thirty yards down 136 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,320 the field. Like, that's not dj Uyanglay's game, it's not his style 137 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,639 of play. It's also not the way Oregon State generally plays offense. It's 138 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:50,360 not the way Oregon State usually structures its passing game. And so it was 139 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:54,120 really very weird. And Jonathan Smith for all the ways in which he has 140 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,759 made Oregon State a legitimate factor in the PAC twelve and in the world of 141 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,399 Coast football, I mean, there's no question that he's made a great difference 142 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,919 at Oregon State. This is a nine win program generally, Like that is 143 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,480 an amazing achievement in Corvallis, with the resources you have there, with you 144 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:18,120 know, being such an out of the way place in the country. To 145 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:22,440 turn Oregon State into a nine win program, that's an exceptional piece of coaching. 146 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,840 And so John Smith certainly has established himself as one of the better coaches 147 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,639 in the United States. But if that having been said, Jonathan Smith has 148 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,240 struggled this year. Jonathan Smith has really missed the mark a number of times. 149 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:41,879 We recall a few weeks ago that inexplicable fake field goal at the end 150 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:46,200 of the first half against Arizona, you know, faking a field goal when 151 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,080 there was no time left. You know, if you're faking a field goal 152 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,879 and there's at the very end of a half, you don't have time for 153 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:58,320 another play after that fake. Now, normally, when you fake a kick, 154 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,360 there's time after the fake, So if you get a first down in 155 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,759 the red zone, well then you have time to then get a touchdown on 156 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:11,440 your subsequent series of downs, continuing the possession. But when you fake a 157 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,679 field goal at the end of a half, you don't have You getting the 158 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,279 first down doesn't matter because the half's over. You don't have a series of 159 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:24,759 downs. So Jonathan Smith with that blunder which dearly cost Oregon State against Arizona. 160 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,519 He now follows that up with this really inexplicable deep passing game late in 161 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,799 a two point game against Washington, a game in which Oregon State and Washington 162 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,240 both committed lots of mistakes in the rain. They neither team could hold onto 163 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,159 the ball. Oregon State with a bad snap leads to a safety, which 164 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:52,399 becomes the final margin of victory, a two point game for Washington. So 165 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,279 credit the Huskies in their defense for standing up to Oregon State in the trenches. 166 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,919 That's where Washington won this game most centrally, but also Oregon State let 167 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,840 Washington off the hook to a certain degree. Jonathan Smith and Oregon State and 168 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:11,159 djangole A not bringing their best, not the best coaching, not the best 169 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,799 quarterback play, not the best passing game. So once again, top team 170 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,399 in the country doesn't play its best, but the challenger could not take advantage. 171 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,960 It's a theme in the Pac twelve. 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But the other thing about USC will strength coach Benny Wiley also be 212 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,759 fired. And a lot of people at USC, I'm certainly one of them, 213 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,200 think, you know, USC needs to make a move on its strength 214 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,000 coach. It's not just an Alex Grinch problem. It's also what Benny wants 215 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:06,000 problem. That USC offensive line was hammered by UCLA much as it was hammered 216 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 by Notre Dame a month ago. The US he is a soft team, 217 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:11,519 not just on defense but also on offense. So we're going to see just 218 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:17,799 how many changes USC makes. It can't just be defensive coordinator for Lincoln Riley. 219 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:22,079 No official word yet if chip Kelly has been retained by UCLA, but 220 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,880 all signs are pointing that way that that chip Kelly's probably saved his job for 221 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,240 one more year because he managed to beat USC, and beat USC badly, 222 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,519 so that is worth keeping an eye on at UCLA, and you know, 223 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:44,720 Oregon crushes Arizona State, so that so Oregon Oregon State on Friday in Eugene 224 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,839 in Auntin Stadium. The Ducks have the home field. If Oregon wins that 225 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,240 game, Oregon and Washington are going to have that much anticipated rematch in the 226 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:57,480 PAC twelve Championship game on Friday, December first in Las Vegas. And if 227 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,759 Oregon loses, Oregon State is able to knock off Oregon the Arizona Wildcats, 228 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:10,680 they could beat the Oregon the Arizona State sun Devils in the Territorial Cup, 229 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,440 the rivalry down here in Arizona where I Am Arizona could still make its way 230 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:22,519 into the PAC twelve Championship game. Wouldn't that be an amazing story for Arizona 231 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,079 to get to the PAC twelve title game, something no one had any remotely 232 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:33,039 anticipated before the season began. So that would be something the other PAC twelve 233 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,119 note. It's going to be a big twelve note next year in twenty twenty 234 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,680 four. But ham Rising has announced he's coming back to Utah for twenty twenty 235 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,519 four. That would certainly seem to make Utah the favorite preseason favorite for the 236 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:51,640 twenty twenty four Big Twelve Championship. Very decent chance you could have a Utah 237 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:59,039 Arizona twenty twenty four Big twelve title game with Texas and Oklahoma relocating to the 238 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,119 SEC next year. Obviously we'll get a chance to talk about that in the 239 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,519 off season. But had to duck in that word about cam Rising, the 240 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:15,480 other stories in the Western United States football, the Mountain West, and what 241 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,960 a shaker we had in Fresno this past weekend. Fresno State was eight and 242 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,920 two, New Mexico was three and seven. Yet New Mexico looked like the 243 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,160 eight and two team and Fresno looked like the three and seventeen. You know, 244 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,920 there was nothing fancy about New Mexico winning. New Mexico was just tossing 245 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,240 the ball, toss sweeps, just hammering the ball on the ground at Fresno 246 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,079 time after time after time in the second half, and was getting eight nine 247 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,440 yards a chunk, eight nine yards a play, just rearing back and pounding 248 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,519 the snot out of Fresno State up front and mixing in a few occasional passes, 249 00:20:55,039 --> 00:21:00,160 but mostly New Mexico just clobbered Fresno State upfront. This was a This 250 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:04,759 was just an old school physical domination. This was just you know, pounding 251 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,000 an opponent into submission. There was not any subtlety. It wasn't about being 252 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:17,279 more clever. It wasn't a beat having about having more finesse or the better 253 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:22,640 trick plays or wrinkles or exotics. New Mexico just beat Fresno State into submission, 254 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:29,640 a really stunning result, and so it gives Fresno State a third conference 255 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:37,920 loss. And you couple that with UNLV going into Colorado Springs trailing twenty four 256 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,480 to seven and then rallying to beat Air Force thirty one to twenty seven. 257 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,839 Air Force drove down to the UNLV ten yard line late in the game with 258 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:52,400 a backup quarterback who was more like the designated passer. Well Troy Calhoun, 259 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,640 the head coach of Air Force, seeing his offense throw the ball to get 260 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,240 into scoring range. He then goes back to his running for voterback and he 261 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:07,519 runs the ball a couple times. UNLV stuffs those runs and the passing quarterback 262 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,680 didn't come back into the game until it was fourth down. Air Force tries 263 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:18,559 one pass. It's no good. Troy Calhoun really misplayed his cards down there. 264 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,240 Late and UNLV makes the successful seventeen point rally on the road, and 265 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:30,240 so Barry Otamate and UNLV they are in line to play in the Mountain West 266 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:37,319 Conference championship game, and you have Boise State and air Force scrambling for that 267 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,440 second position. San Jose State not completely out of it. What a wild 268 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:48,079 turn of events. It seemed like Fresno State and air Force entering the second 269 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:51,960 weekend of November like it was clear cut that those teams were going to play 270 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,920 for the Mountain West title, and then they both imployed. Fresno State and 271 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:02,599 air Force both losing multiple conference games over the past last few weeks. What 272 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:07,000 an absolutely shocking turn of events in the Mountain West with UNLV playing for a 273 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:15,920 Mountain West title, an absolute shocker in the world of Mountain West football. 274 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Barry odem pretty much locking up Mountain West Coach of the Year for twenty twenty 275 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,400 three. What a wild time that we live in, especially with the Mountain 276 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:33,079 West, so Washington and Oregon they're almost there. Oregon needs to beat Oregon 277 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,680 State to create that monster rematch, and of course, if we get that 278 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,839 monster rematch, we get Michael Pennix and bo Nicks probably for the Heisman Trophy. 279 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:47,960 I know a lot of people think Jayden Daniels of LSU should be should 280 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,319 win the award. Li'm on record as saying he wasn't good enough against Jordan 281 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,640 Travis and Florida State. He wasn't good enough against Jaylen Milroe and Alabama. 282 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,880 The Heisman should involve numbers, but it can't us to be about the numbers. 283 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,039 Michael Pennox and Bo Nicks have set a higher standard with their teams and 284 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:11,920 the most important games of the season. I think it's still an open competition, 285 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,960 and Nicks versus Pennix Friday, December first, that could be the game 286 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,440 which decides the twenty twenty three Heisman Trophy. So this is Matt Zenak. 287 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,319 Thank you for listening to another edition of the Get Off My Pylon College Football 288 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,119 podcast, part of the College Greater on Coast to Coast podcast network, brought 289 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,839 to you by ticketsmarter dot com and the ticket Smarter mobile app. LWOS ten 290 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,240 for ten dollars off an order of one hundred dollars or more, LWOS twenty 291 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,559 or twenty dollars off an order of three hundred dollars or more. 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