All right, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome to this glorious but
hot Monday afternoon in the Tri States. Reds Baseball kicks off about five forty
tonight, Reds and Pittsburgh. What dramatic games in Milwaukee, of course,
the Reds have now lost eight consecutive series to the Brew Crew, which is
not good but extremely competitive. And a relative is second base. Gordon Vettererino
always told me, when you're on second base and you anticipate a single,
you take a walking lead, take two or three more steps, and then
when the ball is hit with two houses, takeoff. I'm not sure that
happened, but nonetheless, Reds lose two out of three. Back at it
in Pittsburgh to night. But until then, Brian Hamrick, welcome to the
Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian, how are you. I'm good, Thanks
for getting this for Cunningham. We're gonna talk about the main streets of Madisonville.
But before we got there, a little birdie whistler in my ear that
you went to see the Rolling Stones. Tell me where were they? Mick
Jagger, what about Keith Richards, Ronnie Woods, Bill Man, Charlie Watts,
May not have been there. Keith Moon may not have been there,
Brian Jones may not have been there. But tell me about the Rolling Stones.
Tell me the story. Oh, this was a I'll tell you what.
I've seen him a few times. I think this was the best.
I think they were better than I've ever seen him before. The setup was
great. It was in Cleveland, so we were at Cleveland Brown Stadium.
I don't know how many people that things hold polls that it was jammed to
every seat that was available. You didn't have the behind the stage, they
didn't sell those, but the entire stadium was jam packed mostly you know,
like mostly buzzers my age. You know. I think I was one of
the younger people. It was one of the only places I go anymore where
I'm the younger guy, you know. And I know that was good by
younger people because I took my three boys who had never seen him, and
I'm just like, this is like rock history. Look, you cannot you
know. The first concert ever took him to was Paul McCartney and they loved
that. And uh and so I took him to see the Rolling Stones and
they were they were blown away. And these guys, I mean the setup
they had there. It was christy. You could hear every guitar string and
we were up you know, and you could see the whole thing. And
those guys they they didn't Yeah. I got to tell you, man,
I hadn't lost a step since the sixties. They looked and sounded awesome.
And they're the eighties, right yeah. Yeah. Now when I say looked
awesome, I mean the show looked great that they the guys look like you
know, they you can tell they've had a few years. It was interesting
because Mick Jagger, they they you never saw a close up of him.
They had like they would shoot him at best from about the knees up.
That's about as close as you ever saw on the big screen. Mick Jagger,
he's like he learned the same thing I did on the TV. I
said, none of these head and shoulder shots for me. I don't want
to scare the kids. Well, the thing is, you talk Tony Bender
tells me the Beatles are the greatest rock band of all time. And I
tell Tonis, I agree, the music over those ten years, But you
talk about sixty years making Hiss, selling out stadiums. Mick Jagger, Keith
Richards especially to me, that's on president. I can't imagine any other rock
band ever going sixty years and selling out stadiums. I may put the Rolling
Stones out of the Beatles at this point. I might do it. It's
amazing. I mean, yeah, it's a real toss up for what you
know. The Beatles opened the door and did so many kind of different things
with music that weren't being done, hadn't been done and thought of. But
like you said, the long jevity of the tone, I mean, it's
a heck of a quandary really to have two that you would have to say,
But which really is at the top of the I mean, there's so
many other great you know that and those guys climbed up, you know,
the Chuck Berry you know way to get there, and the great you know,
Elvis and the people that came before them. But yeah, to talk
about rock and roll bands, I mean, they're certainly, you know,
got to be among the well, I don't know who else you'd put really
in a conversation with those two. And that said, let's talk about the
mean streets of Cincinnati. There are some narrator wells and misinformed that believe crime
is way down. Talk about Madisonville, what happened there, Bramble Park shooting.
You're working that plus this pervert trying to pick up kids. Brian Hamrick,
You've been there for a long time. The mean streets of Cincinnati never
been so mean. Explain the investigation of the Bramble Park shooting in Madisonville.
Well, you know, they're trying to figure out who came down there.
Here here they are. You know, these folks that are out there in
the community are trying to put on They're trying to do what you need to
do to make your community safe and nice and somewhere. You know, kids
have something to do, people can go out. I mean, this is
you know, one of the measures that you take to get and get to
the steps and get to the peace that you want. And in the middle
of it, here comes somebody with a gun, some numbskull who wants to
open up fire. Who knows, you know, at this point we don't
know if somebody was targeted. Is this something they just did because they were
trying to get a laugh out of it? Where they looking for somebody in
particular? These are the kind of things that the police are trying to track
down right now. There were apparently no officers at the event, but the
chief was talking about that yesterday saying, look, we can't be at every
single event. You know, there's events all over and we're spread pretty thin.
And she actually used the word tired in the summer's beginning, and we're
already tired talking about the number of you know, people that they need and
that they're still trying to fill some of those voids. But you know,
that's not something you exactly expect to hear from your chief or from your police,
like we're tired getting tired. It's much to hear that. Well,
that's because there's so little crime. You know, they're tired because they have
so they eat donuts all day, they got nothing to investigate, and they're
tired. Chief Thiji said, we need help. I can't imagine right if
one or two individuals are cranking off twenty to thirty shots and no one saw
anything in hundreds of people. Do you believe that. Do you think there's
a fear of coming forward? Oh? I think that's still out there.
I mean it's still out there, and it's something that you know, a
lot of these folks that we see out on the street all the time talk
about you know, Mitch Morris and pastor Peterson Mingo and these guys, they
talk about that concern. But they and I think they've done better over the
years to try and make people more comfortable about coming forward and anonymous tips and
these sorts of things. But that's still something you know, snitches get stitches.
That's something that's still is out there and it's still a concern and you
know, people fo afraid to come forward. Even now. Like I said,
I think it's better than it was, but there that still is.
That's a dark cloud looming over the business of investigation people trying to you know,
get answers on what happened or something like this. According according to the
police, there were two witnesses of the shooting told the police there was a
fisticuff fight broke out at the event and gunshots rang out. They were unsure
if the gunfire came from those fighting. Roughly thirty shots were fired. Witnesses
said there were hundreds of people in Bramble Park and Madisonville, including many children,
many babies. Five were injured. One is in critical condition and at
this point they're asking silence is a form of violence. Does anyone who has
information or may witness this tragic event, we asked you please come forward Cincinnati
and should be upset this is happening repeatedly the other there were other drive by
shootings last week. There were three drive buys over a two day period.
To my knowledge, no one's arrested for that. In your long hit,
you've been out of it for twenty five or thirty years. Do you think
there's more of these events happening now than ever before in Cincinnati? You know,
just on a basis where I'm looking at, you know what, without
any looking at any statistics, it seems to me like we're seeing more of
these than we've ever seen before, especially these ones where people drive up fire
off a bunch of shots. You know, that eleven year old over in
the West End was killed that way. They never have figured out who killed
that eleven year old. And this sort of thing just seems to be like
prevalent, you know, Like you said, there's so many of these things
that we hardly even you know, cover some of them anymore, because you
know, if nobody gets hit or somebody just shot in the leg, you
know, it's like, yeah, that's just another one. But a lot
of times we'll get the audio recording of these things and you'll hear sounds like
a machine gun. It's like, you know, you'll hear these things going
off. So so these people have access to some pretty high powered weaponry stuff
that's not legal already. You know, you'll you'll because you can hear it.
They're like machine guns and uh it's and they don't care. They don't
care where they shoot. There's no uh concern for human life whatsoever. And
the folks that are doing this, uh, a lot of these folks are
really young. They have no idea, no real concept, and you know,
whatever kind of life they've had growing up has basically conditioned and have no
no concern for or regard for anybody else. And they'll just fire randomly and
and and and none of them can shoot, I mean none of them.
I don't care, you know, nobody. Then they may have guns,
but they don't know anything about guns, you know, They just they know
how to turn it on and how to make it fire. They watch the
movies. They turn their gun sideways and they spray into a crowd of people,
you know, because they've seen it. They think they think this looks
cool, you know, and you know, and it's it's from the beginning.
A lot of these folks are involved in this, you know, it's
in the entire They grow up in a culture unlike anything that probably most of
us can imagine. From the you know, time they're very young, they're
they're they're talking to people. The people that they talk to are involved in
this sort of thing. They begin to you know, get enamored with this
lifestyle and and when they do, that's what they aspire to. They aspire
to be feared. They aspire to be you know, like what they consider
their heroes, these guys that either went to jail or already got killed.
And they have no concept really what they're doing, have no they have no
idea what the endgame is on it. They just they just like the hearing
and now in the minute and this kind of you know, in their mind,
they're getting some sort of you know, street cred or respect out of
this, and that's what they shoot for. That's their goal. Like other
kids want to be doctors or lawyers or you know whatever. Well, Brian
Hemrick, what's needed is faith and family. Fathers formed family structures, and
the great majority of those are victims. The great majority kind of know.
The answer is that we don't have family structure, we don't have faith anymore.
The churches are empty, and fathers are not in the home, and
government pays dads not to become involved with the mother, and they go from
an event to event, and until family structure is rebuilt, until there's a
sense of faith, this will continue. You can try the swimming pools and
the midnight basketball, you can try the peace rallies and all that kind of
stuff, but there's too many young men running around without family structure, without
education. And one of the best things they have is lots of battle wounds.
And we go into certain parts of our community, the number of shots
you've taken in your body. You can point out the arm, the leg,
the hip, am in good shape. Look at us. I got
this, I got that, And that's what's important. And there's not a
sense of education, there's not a sense of a family structure, of a
proper family structure, not a sense of faith. And until those issues are
resolved, which may not be able to be resolved, all these other peace
get togethers and Maingo and the rest of them are well intended. I watched
I think it was on Channel five last week. The head er doc at
Children's Hospital, a very fine woman, said that we have to We're going
to have five hundred people shot this year in the city of Cincinnati and between
u See and Children's Hospital. It's terrible. And here it is the middle
of June. And when Fiji says we're overwhelmed, we're tired. We run
from event to event. We put up the tape, whether it's North College
Hill or it's Avondale or Madisonville, put up the tape. We try to
interview witnesses who are overwhelmed. We're going to have twenty thousand shots fired this
year in the city of Cincinnati, and we don't know who did it.
And when you're make an arrest, you go down to juvenile Court and Judge
Bloom releases them immediately and then puts it on the diversion docket and there's no
reporting of the crime. And that's where we are. Secondly, you did
a great report last week. I wanted to check with you this Monday afternoon
on this pervert trying to pick up kids. Explain what's going on there and
parents should be aware what's happening. Oh that was Yeah, that was up
North College Hill. So they got apparently some reports of a guy in a
dark the DAN, trolling through the neighborhoods, and so they were on the
lookout for this guy. I actually talked to one of the kids who saw
this guy. He pulled up to these kids. I'm guessing this kid must
have been like twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, and he had a
couple of his buddies with him that were over there near the North College Hill
Kroger, and the guy basically solicits them for sax kid, the twelve thirteen
year old kids, and they took off, went into the Kroger and told
the security guard, and then the security card reported it. And then I
talked to the kid's mom and she was like, you know, like every
nightmare of every parent, are like, what is going on? Because you
don't know. I mean, this guy's saying something is one thing that you
don't want to happen, But you don't know what this guy has in his
mind or what he might do next, what's his next step. Because a
lot of these kind of folks that had these kind of strange, you know,
notions about the world that might just be the first step, or you
know, it tends to escalate and you know, it's not too far away
from having an abduction, and then you know it goes from from this to
a you know, even more serious. So the North Talley Kill police last
year, we talked to them, Uh, they were working on it.
They said they were close to having maybe some sort of an announcement on it.
But that was last Friday. Uh, there still hasn't been any new
development on it as of this morning. Last I checked, Uh, there
was no new development on it. So but I got a sense that they
might be getting some information. Uh. I know that at least some of
the witnesses were coming forward, those kids were telling them what they what they
knew about it. And and again, like we talked about any other situations,
when when people will you know, stand step up and say, hey,
look, I'm not going to stand for this, this is what's going
on. Uh. And this family I talked to, you know, they
were among that group. It's like, we're going straight to police. We're
not going to have this this guy, you know, running around in our
neighborhood. And that's that's part of the solution to fix in it. Yeah,
part of the solution is in the North College Joe case, the community.
Once this guy arrested in Madisonville or Avondale or Evanston or the west End,
there's many sense well when that kid has gunned down, and with the
West End it's like, well, you know, you know, you know,
snitches get stitches. But this is the kind of an offense where North
College Show is going to come up and say, we can't put up with
this. But Brian Hammrick, we got to run. Thanks for coming on.
Crime is up, but reporting a crime and arrest are down. Those
are the facts, and many people don't want to hear that, but that's
the way it is. When the chief of police says we're tiring, well,
we run from event to event. We need more cops, more jails
and judges to lock people up. Brian Hammrick, once again, congratulations on
the Rolling Stones and Mick Jagger and it's fabulous and once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Brian, thank you very much.
Well, Bet yeah, you know, Mick Jagger, by the way,
is married to a woman named Hammrick, so it's it's kind of I think
it's in the family. Are you related to mix something? Maybe we got
to be related or all related. All the heads. I think he's got
about fifteen or twenty kids, he's got numerous models, and I assume his
new wife's about thirty years old or something, but probably about thirty. Yeah,
yeah, the runway model. I have the same problem he's got,
so I understand. But Brian Hamrick, thank you very much for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show. Give my best. All the folks at five.
Thanks again, Miss cunning Out, Thank you, Brian. Let's continue with
more. It's one thing if you're a pervert, okay, we'll turn you
out. But if you're simply a shooter at a Peace Park and Bramble and
Madisonville, well we have to be careful. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WULW