1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,680 If you've been told to pull up your socks, then make sure it's a 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,240 pair of TNT socks. The TNT shop is now open at TNT Radio dot 3 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:16,800 Live. Patrick Henningson and TNT All right, folks, welcome back, welcome 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,120 back, We're now we're number two. Thank you for rejoining us. Thank 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,359 you very much to international human rights lawyer Arnold Devilay in the previous segment, 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,440 really kind of lifting the lid on this whole Nazi pedigree in Canada, and 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,200 it goes way back. There's a lot of detail. There will be packaging 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,240 and featuring that interview later in the week at twenty first Century Wire, so 9 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:41,880 look out for that. Hello to everybody in the TNT chat room. I 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,880 hope you guys are doing great today. I'll be interacting with you momentarily, 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,960 but before I get there, I want to welcome onto the stage our next 12 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:54,399 guest. He is a best selling author. His name is Jay Dyer and 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,320 his website is Jay's Analysis. Also author of many books. Now we'll have 14 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:03,000 an opportunity need to hear about those titles at the end of the segment, 15 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,560 but he's on the line right now from the United States. Jay, how 16 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:10,040 are you Joan mall Patrick. Thank you for having me. Bad glad to 17 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:11,840 be here with you. No great to have you, Jay, And I'm 18 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:19,480 sure you're watching with great interest and maybe some amusement at this sort of the 19 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:26,719 political folly that just continues to unfold, and looking at the election cycle that's 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,959 coming in twenty twenty four, it seems Jay that it's very likely, looking 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,319 at the media reporting the narratives, the Democrats are very much going to be 22 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,519 run. If Trump is running, they're going to be running on January sixth, 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,159 and so we can't have him in an office anymore. He tried to 24 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:47,040 overthrow the government January sixth, et cetera, et cetera. You know the 25 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:53,519 script by now, But this is interesting how January sixth has been weaponized and 26 00:01:53,640 --> 00:02:00,319 so effectively, And it does draw some historical compare arrisons, and I want 27 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:06,000 to talk to you about that. Plus just the level of co intel pro 28 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,280 now through events like this, it's it's kind of reached a whole new level. 29 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:14,000 I thought this was a trend, a deep state trend that might kind 30 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:16,639 of maybe you know, die on the vine because of all, you know, 31 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:21,080 social media and everything's so transparent now. But it seems to have gone 32 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,639 the other way. Jay, there seems to be more co intel pro more 33 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:31,159 LARPing with federal informants and various shady actors playing these roles in public. So 34 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:35,120 I want to talk to you about that as well. But on the January 35 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:39,879 sixth front and just look putting this into historical context, what are your thoughts 36 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:46,120 on this? I think too. To me, it always was suspicious. 37 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:52,919 It looked like something that would be just perfect for the kind of operation that 38 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,360 apparently they did, which was a kind of trap that was set for, 39 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:00,520 uh, you know, the patriot crowd. We know that for many many 40 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:05,879 years one of the examples of co and tell that people have forgotten about his 41 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,039 pat con, which is the the right wing fundamentalist arm of this strategy, 42 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:16,159 where you really set up and weaponize these different groups, these different sects. 43 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:22,599 Some of these you could think of things like Timothy McVay and Ellerheim City which 44 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,759 was run by Feds. You could think of situations like Christian identity movements. 45 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,439 I think Elahim City was a version of that, and those are always really 46 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:37,520 ripe for honey trap, you know, honey honeypot type situations. I don't 47 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,960 know about honey traps. They are always really ripe for honey trap. Uh, 48 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:46,280 you know, honey honeypot type situations. I don't know about honey traps. 49 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,639 Don't think it's any good look at women amongst them, but they're all 50 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,639 pretty ghastly. But can we think back to again, you know Bo Bow 51 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:57,439 Grits Grits or whatever his name was. He was one of the early pat 52 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 con guys that was really you know, he wou put on this costume of 53 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,000 fifty medals that he had won in Vietnam or whatever. It was all very 54 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,719 you know, cartoonish and larpie and it was always you know, I think 55 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:14,759 in that situation that was sort of a QAnon before QAnon, right where you 56 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,720 had this idea that there was the the white hats in the system that we're 57 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,240 working secretly to to save everybody. And then you know, QAnon played a 58 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:27,920 key role in the January sixth event, which you know, pretty obvious to 59 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,120 me and I'm sure to you and many others. It was clearly something that 60 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,639 was intended to mislead and dupe people into thinking that you know, if they 61 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,240 went into the Capitol, they could you know, do something set up some 62 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:43,079 kind of new provisional government. You know, I mean, who knows what 63 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,600 all nonsense to QAnon people were believing and we're being told. But they also 64 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,800 had, as you know, you know, an army of basically provocateurs and 65 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,800 and agit prop agitation people in the crowd. Uh, that's all pretty much 66 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:00,839 come out. I have not seen that footage, but I have a friend 67 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:05,079 who works with Tucker who has actually seen the entire all of it, so 68 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,279 he had to watch all of it when before Tucker did that special and it 69 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,360 said, you know, it's pretty obvious when you see the totality of the 70 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:18,240 footage that Tucker had that this was, you know, clearly a staged event 71 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,560 to a large degree. And when you have these mobs of people, you 72 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:26,040 have you have a spectrum, you have you know, fads running around, 73 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,759 you have kuks, you have clowns, you have agitators, you have people 74 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,120 that are probably not that bright, and then they just sort of go along, 75 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,240 they're coaxed into it, and it becomes, as you said, this 76 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,720 giant spectacle, a new nine to eleven, which is completely ridiculous. But 77 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,160 I thought your parallel to Reichstag is relevant because in the Reichstag event. As 78 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,079 I think you said on your show the other day, they really just burned 79 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,079 a building and then blamed it on a you know, mentally retarded guy that 80 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,759 they said was a communist, and it provided a great pretext for crisis and 81 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:08,439 then emergency powers. And really that's the elite maschinations for all of these events, 82 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,399 right, It's always crisis and then crisis management. You know, brazil 83 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,160 Ski even talked about this a long time ago. Kissinger talks about this, 84 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,399 so you know, this is this is their basic game plan of what they 85 00:06:17,439 --> 00:06:24,279 do is in order to remove to move things to the next level of loss 86 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:29,240 of liberties and loss of personal sovereignty and rights, you need a giant crisis. 87 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,920 The crisis then furthers the end goal that you had from the outset, 88 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,600 and certainly January sixth was was a big part of that. And so no, 89 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,079 I'm not surprised that there. I mean, basically, this is Biden 90 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,720 has made this his entire platform. You know, remember when he stood there 91 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,720 with that weird red and black fascist background, and I mean, this is 92 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:55,759 really and this is all to combat fascism, right, to combat Trump's fascism. 93 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,319 Yeah, that when he launched his campaign, I think it was April 94 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:05,360 of twenty nineteen he released a video saying and it had this solemn music. 95 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:09,720 I don't know if you remember seeing it, but and then he's I was 96 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,040 I was ready to retire, and then I was called to bring the save 97 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,759 the soul of our country because Charlotte'sville happened. And that's another one, Jay, 98 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:23,800 Charlotte's feel very suspect. I don't know if you observed any of that 99 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,839 at all. I do recall it, and I remember watching a lot of 100 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,279 videos and seeing and you know, they got what they needed there with the 101 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,639 unfortunate death of Heather Higher that. You know, this gave the perfect pretexts 102 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:42,720 that at that time that the dissident right movement could be shut down because it 103 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:46,800 was now shown to be violent. And as you pointed out, this is 104 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:50,040 the older model of cointelpro If you go back to the Civil rights era, 105 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:57,160 when you had left groups, leftist groups that were how legitimate critiques and concerns, 106 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,959 perhaps anti war, perhaps you know, black panthers, you know these 107 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:07,360 kinds of groups. What the establishment did was that they would send in people 108 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,680 who had the task of radicalizing and really, you don't need a whole lot 109 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:15,879 it doesn't require you know, people going in and having to blow something up, 110 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:18,439 although it might I think that that's probably what's going on with with the 111 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:22,319 weather underground situation, but it could be something as innocuous as just getting people 112 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,720 to march with their guns on display, and so the abound format. Richard 113 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Ioki got the Black Panthers to do that, and that successfully, you know, 114 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,879 basically emasculated them from having any power influence because people then saw the pictures 115 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,440 of all they're a radical group and they're you know, marching on the street 116 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,519 ready to kill everybody. Now that doesn't mean that I agree with any of 117 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,200 the necessary necessarily with any of these positions. It's just that these groups are 118 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,399 very useful, as you you know, you know this from you know, 119 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:58,720 we went and looked at investigated the Bundy event and we saw a very similar 120 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:03,039 pattern there of agitators and weirdos and creeps running around and it's sort of acting 121 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,639 foolish and trying to get people to do stupid things. And it's a very 122 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,080 basic strategy, but it's very real. And so that's what they did in 123 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:16,039 the in the in the sixties of the contal the student movements, get them 124 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,360 to act stupid and radical. Then then you can destroy their public image. 125 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,879 And it's not any different for what the establishment does now with the right wing 126 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,120 groups. And they did it, and then they did the same thing with 127 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Islamic groups. You know, we think about the newburg Sting documentary where they 128 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,279 created a fake mosque and you know, had brought in this looks like a 129 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,879 CIA guy to run the whole thing and get everybody thinking they're going to blow 130 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,320 up a military base, just really ridiculous plans. But oh and then the 131 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:46,679 establishment comes to the rescue, which was the plan the entire time. So 132 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,720 yeah, this is a repeated pattern. And once you see the pattern, 133 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,399 it's pretty obvious. And I think that it was probably going on at Charlottesville 134 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:58,679 as well. Yeah, reichstat I think the name of the German communist was 135 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:05,840 Marinus Vanderloube and apparently, yeah, mentally disabled. And you know what's interesting, 136 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:09,639 you mentioned Charlottesville had just a fun fact here, not fun, horrific 137 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:16,559 fact. Actually James Field, who was tried and convicted for the murder of 138 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,039 Heather Higher in Charlottesville, there was a lot of information that was not basically 139 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,360 aired during the trial that only came out after it was kept from the Defense 140 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,320 wasn't allowed to air it. And that was James Field. The driver of 141 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:39,960 that car was on anti psychotropic medication, diagnosed schizophrenic. His mother was a 142 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:46,559 schizophrenic from the age of six. Okay, I'm always in special sort of 143 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,320 class at whatever. So clearly a marginalized individual who was groomed through the sort 144 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,399 of you know, American X type neo Nazi group. With the photograph on 145 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,320 social media, it was all kind of very It all happened almost like in 146 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,039 the storybook fashion. And then this happened at Charlotte. I just thought that's 147 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:11,559 interesting. We're talking about Reichstadt, and there's obviously more more parallels there than 148 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,559 one would care to to notice if you're only just taking a quick plance at 149 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,639 it. But that's kind of horrific really when you start looking at that depth 150 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:26,759 of it. Yeah, it's very you know, there's no concern for the 151 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,960 cost of human lives or you know, truth has nothing to do with any 152 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,600 of that. It's really just politically motivated, pure power politics. And I 153 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:43,120 did a talk recently on forty plus publicly admitted false flag events, and you 154 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 could say, you could you could argue that these are really just a form 155 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:50,279 of a kind of false flag where you're really just trying to get some juicy 156 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:56,960 clip or some juicy event that portrays the group that you want to target as 157 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 the bad guys. But I mean there's been at least and I mean there's 158 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:03,519 more than in this list, but these are just the publicly admitted ones. 159 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,639 And so this goes all the way back, you know, at least one 160 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,120 hundred years, where you can look to Japan engaging in a false flag to 161 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:13,200 start wars with China. You can go all the way up through you know, 162 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,840 the British. British were very adept at using false flag events, and 163 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:22,879 so it's an old strategy. You can just apply the maybe the bigger geopolitical 164 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:24,759 use of it, you can just apply it on a smaller scale to these 165 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,759 kinds of events where you know, we think back to that I think it's 166 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,919 the two thousand and eight G eight protests and there were cops, you know, 167 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,200 disguised as protesters and then the cops go and they bust out windows and 168 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,320 they end up you know, shutting down the protests or the basis on the 169 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,080 basis of what the cops did, or you know, the twenty fourteen my 170 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,919 don You've got people sniping people and then that causes the big hullabaloo and then 171 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:58,159 it's pinned on the opposition. So this is just a classic military and media 172 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,440 strategies. You can even say it's a it's a media tactic. Yeah. 173 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,600 So you have the false flags. Be interesting to see that list you gave, 174 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,919 by the way, that would be quite instructive. So you have the 175 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:15,120 pre war false flags used to trigger for war. That's one type of false 176 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,200 flag. But it seems like the really insidious ones are the domestic ones to 177 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,240 shift power within a country or within Europe for instance. And what comes to 178 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,039 mind there, Jay is Operation Gladio. What are your your thoughts on that 179 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,720 topic. Yeah. I remember discussing Gladio with you, maybe many many years 180 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:39,480 ago, and I was fairly new to the topic back in twenty fourteen. 181 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:46,480 I've been reading a lot more on Gladio of late. There's a really great 182 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,120 book by Paul Williams that talks about the history of Gladio and organized crime and 183 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,879 the Vatican and entities like the Jesuits and Opus Day and the Vatican Bank. 184 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,480 It's a great book. I would also have the the Daniel Ganser book that 185 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,120 everybody's probably familiar with, which is kind of a pH d thesis level book 186 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:09,840 on the history of it, and it's a it's good to tie this into 187 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,080 you know, we were talking about these kind of clownish larpie role playing groups. 188 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Well, there was a recent the FBI informant who turns out he was 189 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:28,000 the guy running the so called neo Nazi organization, the biggest one in America, 190 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,519 and his name was what is that guys? So the group was found 191 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:39,080 by Cliff Harrington and Robert Brannon in the nineteen in nineteen seventy four, and 192 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,840 it's an offshoot of George Lincoln Rockwell's original American Nazi Party of NAT. By 193 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,000 the way, I've read that Rockwell was also I think this is a FED 194 00:14:46,039 --> 00:14:52,639 if I recall, or co opted to some degree. But this more recent 195 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:58,559 group, it turns out that the Harrington figure was a long time FBI informant. 196 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:03,720 And that's not any surprise because you know, this is this is just 197 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:07,799 how this stuff works. And every time we look to these really clownish sort 198 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 of you know, if you probably saw the Patriot Front people a few months 199 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,679 ago, you know, marching and wearing there they basically look like ANTIFA, 200 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,399 but instead of black, you know, they're just decked out in American flags, 201 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:24,960 right, so very very cartoonist. They all look like buff Feds. 202 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,320 They don't look like you know, the Antifas, all these noodle stick people 203 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:33,440 and then the Patriot Front or all these buff you know, they look like 204 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,639 FBI guys or military guys. So it's they're pretty it's pretty transparent when you're 205 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:43,559 aware of this stuff. But these and these groups seem to pop up out 206 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,559 of nowhere. Right. We just saw for example, the bone Head guy, 207 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,200 I think he's bone face guy. Yeah, and that Rachel Blevins did 208 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,039 a good art piece on him, talking about how he's just in there saying, 209 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,759 yeah, the FBI and the CIA, they fly me around to Ukraine 210 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,679 and then they fly me back to or and I run this group. And 211 00:16:02,759 --> 00:16:06,720 so suddenly this group pops up right when, uh, you know, Elon 212 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:11,240 Musk is said to be creating and causing, you know, Nazi movements to 213 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:15,759 rise and through through free speech on Twitter or x. But yeah, so 214 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,639 this is again there's a repeated pattern that I know, you know, for 215 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,879 so many years of media coverage. Every time there was somebody who engages in 216 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,000 I don't know, but every time, but almost every time, somebody's engaged 217 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,960 in some wild shooting event or loses their mind and a terror event. Oh, 218 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:37,279 they just happened to be a long time on the FBI watch list, 219 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,039 the FED watch list, the Foreign intelligence watch list, and well, well 220 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,200 we watched them, we were you know, we we we knew what they 221 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,200 were up to, but there's not much we could do. And it's always 222 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,279 something like, well, we don't have the jurisdiction, we don't, we 223 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:52,759 can't, you know, the laws don't allow us to just to just do 224 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:56,000 anything. Well, we all know that's a bunch of bunk. And because 225 00:16:56,039 --> 00:17:00,320 these situations are very, very useful, and that's the key to glass ideo 226 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:06,200 and gladiol really has its origins in paper clip. Ironically, because everybody's talking 227 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,039 about paper clip today because of what you were talking about the first hour, 228 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:17,400 the Trudeau faux pap going on there and this is now now I noticed operation 229 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:26,079 of paper clips trending on Twitter and SS was trending last night. Now it's 230 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:32,160 going to paper clip already. Amazing. Yeah, So basically, the fascinating 231 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,960 element of this is that people don't know in the post war period, uh 232 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Rynard Galen, the famous SS believe it was a general. He had set 233 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:48,319 up probably one of the most extensive and elaborate and effective spy networks throughout Europe. 234 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:55,440 And when the Nazis lost basically the OS, the OSS, basically Bill 235 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,160 Donovan and Dullus and Frank Wisner said well, hey, we'll give you clemency 236 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:04,480 as an individual, but you're going to hand over your entire spy network to 237 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:11,400 us. So he did that, and then what happened was he got clemency, 238 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:15,440 and then the CIA based would become to say they basically took over all 239 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,920 of those old Galen networks, and that becomes what we call Galen org. 240 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:26,920 And then Frank Wisner, who is also the brainchild behind Operation Mockingbird, he 241 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:32,039 sets up what's called the Office of Policy Coordination, which has this innocuous name, 242 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,279 but it's actually the CIA's black opposite division, and so they take over 243 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,279 the these networks. And these networks, by the way, have been set 244 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,799 up also in the Ukraine. So if we're wondering where and why there's all 245 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:49,720 the Nazis in Ukraine, well this the Galen organization has set up a pretty 246 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:55,079 extensive network there when you know, the idea was that at that time, 247 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,519 tiny mustache man would come in and he could take over Ukraine and use that 248 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:04,359 as a bulwark against Russia. So that network though was not just in the 249 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,759 Ukraine or in Germany, it was basically all throughout Europe. And so you 250 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:14,400 had people in Germany running this network like Franz Ola, Hans Auto. These 251 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,880 are former SS guys. They were all trained by the CIA, and then 252 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,559 they they got money from the CIA. They were again nothing really changed. 253 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:29,119 They just formed the new Western German intelligence network of the B and D out 254 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,839 of Galen's network. So that I mean, you look up on Wikipedia, 255 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,160 the first head of a German Western intelligence post post World War two was Galen. 256 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:45,000 So the so called you know Liberal West was really just a bunch of 257 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,279 the same networks putting on a liberal face. And that's why GLADIO was so 258 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,759 successful as a strategy of tension terror operation. And that's what we see these 259 00:19:56,759 --> 00:19:59,720 mass shootings and we would see these big, big terror events and all that. 260 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:03,960 It really echoes all of the information that was part of GLADIO, which 261 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,200 didn't come out until nineteen ninety one or ninety two, and it's pretty fascinated 262 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,440 because there were there were people at the time who didn't know what it was 263 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:17,920 called, but that we're writing books in the late eighties and early nineties, 264 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,160 and they had already made these connections. The guy that writes they wrote the 265 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:29,200 original book on the Papacy and the Vatican Bank and this connection the name of 266 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,519 its God's Bank or something like that roversal Calvy story. He didn't know about 267 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:37,599 Gladio, but he was he was beginning to understand that the Bologna bombing connected 268 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,759 to this network of the strategy of tension people. And then you get nineteen 269 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:47,200 ninety one or two Committee of three hundred book by doctor John Coleman. The 270 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,920 first two chapters basically talk about Kissinger running these operations in Italy, but he 271 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,920 didn't know yet that it was called Gladio. And then when Paul Williams wrote 272 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:04,599 his book in twenty fifteen, enough information had come out that basically Kissinger was 273 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:11,279 running especially Gladio in Italy. So this effectively gave the CIA and via Kissinger, 274 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,799 total control of the Italian government. Because Licio Gelli, who was the 275 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:22,559 headman in Italy for Gladio, the head of the P two Lodge he basically 276 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,359 answered directly to Kissinger. So so, more and more information has come out 277 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,759 that really vindicated a lot of the people writing about this in the late eighties 278 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,960 and early nineties first theorizing about it. A lot of Gancer's book in indicates 279 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:40,720 this as well, and that all ties into again these these fake fox Nazi 280 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,599 networks, because it's really it's not really any different now. It's the same 281 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:48,079 power structure, the same networks that are still there, for example in the 282 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,799 Ukraine, that can be utilized and called upon. And so every every time 283 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:56,359 this, you know, this information comes out in examples like what we just 284 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,200 saw with Trudeau, right, and the media turns around, Oh, there 285 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,759 are no there are no neo Nazis in Ukraine. It doesn't exist, even 286 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:07,640 though it's like a gigantic portion of Gladio and the Galen organization. You know, 287 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,720 we have people you know clapping these former cheering on former SS individuals. 288 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:15,119 Well, but it doesn't exist, you see it, There is there are 289 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,920 no Nazis in the Ukraine. Yeah, So as far as Italy goes, 290 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,240 a country like that, I suppose typical for Europe at the time, but 291 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:30,680 it was the strategy of tension to demonize more of the because obviously there was 292 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:37,680 some very well established and insurgent communist parties throughout Europe. What was that the 293 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,440 main focus or was there more that was a big part of it. I 294 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:48,440 think also the CIA had longer designs to really steering use the Vatican down the 295 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,279 road, and that's what we've seen, especially in the last few decades, 296 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,759 because Colby is the first to go. He's the CIA station chief in Italy 297 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:00,799 before he goes on to run the Phoenix Probe and Vietnam. And when he's 298 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:04,440 in Italy he's the one that's really brokering the deals with Pious of twelfth to 299 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,039 ensure that if the CIA gives money to the Vatican Bank and helps them essentially 300 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:18,799 win the elections as you're mentioning there for the Christian Democratic Party versus the communist 301 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:23,319 Christian Democratic Party, religious becomes kind of an adjunct of the CIA over there, 302 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,119 and they want to ensure that there's not any leftist turn in Europe, 303 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:36,119 which could then allow for the supposed Soviet Stalinist Soviet invasion of Europe. Right. 304 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,279 So this is, as you know, the just the auspices for wag 305 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:42,400 Gladio's necessary is that will Stalin could at any moment, you know, infiltrate 306 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,480 or excuse me, invade Europe. So we gotta have these stay behind units. 307 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,279 And they weren't just in Italy or German and they were all throughout Europe. 308 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:53,200 You had these basically trained black ops cells that could engage in all manner 309 00:23:53,240 --> 00:24:00,440 of sabotage, assassination, false flag, mass shootings, content, all those 310 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,720 things were on the table. And one one famous example that came out was 311 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:11,599 the Eldamorrow kidnapping and that was that was according to Coleman, and I think 312 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,960 the later information and the Williams book back set up that was run by Kisser. 313 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:22,720 The Kisser basically was telling Morrow, your your plans for Italy don't align 314 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,079 with our plans for Italy, so uh, either stop or you're gone. 315 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:30,519 And so what they did was they used one of their fake groups, the 316 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,680 Red Uh, the Red one of the Rebrigads. The Rebrigads were used to 317 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:42,640 then kidnap and and assassinate Morrow because Morrow had plans that would have actually benefited 318 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,680 the Italians. And so the main, the main issue here is that that's 319 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:52,720 not what the designs of the Western power elite were at that time for Italy, 320 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,920 they wanted to at least some people theorize that what they wanted to do 321 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,839 was experiment with austerity and collapse in Italy, and so they wanted to see 322 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:07,240 if they could move Italy into you know, culling and the industrialization. Not 323 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:11,160 that Italy was a powerhouse of industry, but they tend to for whatever reason, 324 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,839 they want to use state as small nations like that. I think, 325 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,599 you know, look at Kouf. You know, Italy was chosen as kind 326 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,160 of one of the early test beds for rolling out a lot of the COVID 327 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,319 nonsense a couple of years ago. So yeah, definitely, yeah, And 328 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,319 that's I think that's because they had, you know, the West had much 329 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,440 like Germany, you know, post post World War Two, they had significant 330 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:41,480 sway and almost almost total control of Italian, the Italian government through this secret 331 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,559 you know, Gladiol structure that the Kissinger was running. Yeah, I know, 332 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,799 definitely there's what you call deep state. That's for Italy. There multiple 333 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:55,680 deep states. I would think between the Church, the factions of the Church, 334 00:25:55,759 --> 00:26:00,640 the Jesuits, the Lodges, plus the intelligence agents. He's plus plus 335 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,400 plus. Uh, there's there's quite a lot there, So, yeah, 336 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,079 that would be the ultimate multi layer cake when you're talking about this, Italy 337 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,680 is definitely one of the big case studies. Yeah, and that's why the 338 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,200 terror was necessary, because it was you know, it was a key element 339 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,559 of destabilization. And yeah, I mean that's that's what the you know, 340 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,559 Gladio doesn't just do that there, It does that in other places, I 341 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:32,759 think pretty effectively. And most of the Gladio writers, as you know, 342 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:37,079 they they speculate that or uh, don't of a speculation. They make a 343 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:44,039 pretty good case that the strategy of tension model was just really copied and pasted. 344 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,160 You could argue that even in Vietnam there was a kind of strategy of 345 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,680 tension techniques that were used with the Phoenix program. Some of the Phoenix Program 346 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,920 people were also involved in Gladiol. I think of people like Colby himself for 347 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,440 example. Colby is again the one that really set up that relation and ship 348 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,079 between the Vatican Bank and the CIA, and I think the deal was after 349 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:10,480 all of this, there was a huge economic collapse right after all this stuff 350 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:15,559 came out in Italy about Gladiol, then the mafia superstructure that was in place, 351 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:18,680 A bunch of them got arrested in the in the early eighties and the 352 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,440 economy collapsed, the bank that these Gladiol banks went under. A bunch of 353 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:30,640 Vatican connected shell companies went under, and so according to Williams, this allowed 354 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,240 the Western power structure elite to step in and say, hey, we're happy 355 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:38,759 to bail out your Vatican bank for a few billion dollars. You're going to 356 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,160 do what we did. We want now and this is where you begin to 357 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,400 see according to now, this is fascinating. This is according to both pro 358 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:56,200 Western CIA writers like John Kaylor's book on the KGB relationship with the Vatican as 359 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,200 well as Paul Williams, very critical of the CIA in the Cold War period 360 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:07,559 Gladiol but both of them basically vindicate the usage of John Paul the second as 361 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,880 a key CIA figure. And this is why John All the second was pretty 362 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:19,759 much meeting consistently with both Kissinger and not Colby. Who's who's the other? 363 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:27,480 The Catholic CIA director just went blank in Casey Colby, kate Lin Casey Yeah, 364 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,759 so uh yeah. John Paul was meeting pretty regularly with Casey and Kissinger 365 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,599 to to basically be used as the symbolic figure in the Cold War, and 366 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,799 this is actually why you see him, you know, in a lot of 367 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,039 these sort of stage publicity photos that the CIA organized to set up to you 368 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:49,000 know, help sort of further the idea to follow the Wall. And John 369 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:53,640 Paul's the key symbolic figure that helped in the CIA win the Cold War. 370 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,759 But the reason that that was all, you know, the Pope was so 371 00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:04,319 subservient to all of that was because of this basically Vatican bank takeover and money 372 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,279 that had funneled in from the West from the CIA. No, this is 373 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:14,519 E're opening up some very interesting segues. Now. I'm with author Jay Dyer 374 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:19,640 from Jay's Analysis dot com. We're talking about well clandestine subterfuge on a global 375 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,680 level, operation Gladio and more. Look, we're going to take a quick 376 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,240 break here with TNT Today's News Talk, but we will be right back after 377 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:34,039 these messages, so stay right there. CNT Radio's Jeremy Now and jem warfare. 378 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,960 At least in Brazil. The reason why I sit in not Europe is 379 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,519 because in Europe they don't know what a woman is anymore. Brazil, I 380 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:44,559 still do, yes still, but wait some more years, it's changing. 381 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,599 They also start changing the language, making it lettins stuff using the suffix a 382 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,279 or women and o or men or masculine words. They would just simply use 383 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,079 an x ever and that's very common already in Mexico, and they're also starting 384 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,759 to do this in Brazil. So Wocas is a big swamp. It's gett 385 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,079 into Brazil as well. But until now, they still know what a woman 386 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,079 is Brazil, which is which is a good thing. Europe they don't. 387 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,160 I'm telling you that you could be a woman. I mean you're probably a 388 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,240 woman in Europe, or you just say hero woman. They have to accept 389 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:19,759 it. No, not in Africa is about to say we are the last 390 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:23,119 bastion of hope. When it comes to that, come to Africa and ask 391 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 somebody what a woman is and they're just laugh in your face and they don't. 392 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,640 They don't even know what wolcas. If you talk with them about wolkers 393 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,759 and they're like, what the heck and you explain to them, they're like, 394 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,920 what the heck. Oh, it's something their culture will not allow. 395 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,039 Jeremy now Today's news Talk T and T Radio. We've come so far as 396 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:47,599 a nation, we are the envy of the world and our future is limited 397 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:52,079 only by our belief in each other. Now we have a choice debate. 398 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:57,200 Do we give into guilt and division or do we say no, no to 399 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:03,440 those who want to divide us. I've decided to vote no because the voice 400 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,680 will divide us. No to those people who think all Indigenous Australians think the 401 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:14,519 same. We are not all the same. And there's a lot of us 402 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,160 original people that are voting no. No to those who want to change the 403 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,559 rule book of the country. Why let them divide us because we are all 404 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,559 Australians. We are one mob. Come on, Australia, let's stay united. 405 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:37,039 Vote no to the Voice of Division. Authorized by Matthew she In Advanced 406 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:44,920 Australia, Canberra. This is the Patrick Henningson shell on TNT Radio. All 407 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,400 right, welcome back, Welcome back, leadsure, gentmen, in the final 408 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,920 stretch of the final hour here of this live broadcast on a glorious Monday on 409 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,119 TNT Today's News Talk. I'm your host, Patrick Henningson, pleased to be 410 00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:02,240 joined on the line right now with author, philosopher and really good geopolitical commentator 411 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:07,359 Jay Dyer is with us from the USA. Right now, Jay, how 412 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:13,119 are you doing. I'm good. Thanks for asking, Patrick, I'm just 413 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,519 sort of you. We were talking about Francis. I didn't see that Francis 414 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:21,640 had said, don't stop sending the guns to Zelenski. That's interesting too, 415 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,759 because Francis is always talking about how we need to be disarmed, and he's 416 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:30,839 supposedly against the death penalty. But but I guess for Zelenski there's an exception. 417 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,519 There's an exemption, there's a dispensation, there's a papal dispensation, and 418 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,400 he can fight, he can have self defense. Yeah, this is the 419 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:45,359 Jesuit pope here, Pope Francis Burgoglio. I can't pronounce his. Archbishop Vegano 420 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:52,759 calls him by that name, Brogolio. I can't pronounce it properly. Well, 421 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:59,000 you know, he's interesting too because he factors somewhat into maybe not directly 422 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:06,079 Gladio, but all Condor, which was the CIA operations. And I guess 423 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,799 he was in Argentina, right, he was the cardinal from Argentina. Is 424 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:15,920 that right? Yeah? And so you know Condor had to do with the 425 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,160 CIA support for the right wing operations down there, many of which ended up 426 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,559 being very brutal, and Francis received a lot of criticism when he was elected 427 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,279 to the papacy because of those older connections. My suspicion is that, you 428 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:37,759 know, as a prominent Jesuit and being in that kind of a role connected 429 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:45,000 to Operation Condor, he was probably long ago co opted or or you know, 430 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,519 figured out how the world really works from this the band foont of this 431 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:52,319 power structure. He also had as his mentor. The guy's name escapes me, 432 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:58,640 but his mentor is really close friends with Cloud Swap. So his mentor, 433 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,759 Yeah, his mentor was a famous liberation theologian who's really good buddies with 434 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,840 with Klaus, and so you know, it's not not to me, it's 435 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:15,119 not surprising anytime I see Francis really just totally Maybe he really goes the light 436 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,039 years beyond anything that we even saw people like John Paul the Second or Paul 437 00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:21,639 the six. I mean, he's really he takes it to the next level. 438 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,199 I guess I should say. So, I want to ask about this 439 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,440 side of things, you know, the sort of the left, the environmental 440 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:35,039 movement, the Greens. Normally people are not going to associate this with intelligence 441 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,639 agencies, but if you look at the I believe the work of Daniel Ganzer 442 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:45,599 with I believe it's NATO's secret armies. In his work he talks about at 443 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,679 that time, the US was trying to get nuclear tipped cruise missiles stationed in 444 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,159 Europe. I think Minuteman missiles, not minute Man, but there's the type 445 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:59,679 of a cruise missile that had nuclear capabilities to it. And and then the 446 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,320 C and D was was was a big anti nuclear campaign group which kind of 447 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,519 emerged popularity in the seventies and eighties, and so that you also saw the 448 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:15,280 and that radicalization from other terror activities than bait or mine offers and all these 449 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,440 other groups. Yes, all competing for headlines. This caused it more of 450 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:27,400 a general clampdown that kept other groups off the street. But then again they 451 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,639 would have had to infiltrate, infiltrate all these other groups as well, just 452 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,199 you know, the the FBI's equivalents in Europe in order to kind of control 453 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,199 them so that they're doing the right thing, so to speak. But what 454 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,400 in terms of that side of the story, and you know, green environmental 455 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960 groups, nuclear campaigners, what what what are some of the things that you 456 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,159 have learned in that area. Yeah, absolutely no difference. I think the 457 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:59,679 Bottom Mine Hoff Red Army Faction and the Red Brigades and the Weather Underground. 458 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,840 Interestingly, the more I think about it, there's pretty similar patterns with radical 459 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,360 groups that appear to have, you know, funding from sources that are suspicious, 460 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:15,760 dodgy, not that concern with environmentalism or liberalism, So you know, 461 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,679 where's this money coming from? You know, these are these are supposedly poor 462 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,679 hippies, you know, people that want to save the earth, tree hugging, 463 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,800 granola eating people. They don't typically have a lot of money and arms 464 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,039 on hand, but lots of these groups end up suddenly having that. And 465 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,159 I did an interview recently with Sammy the Bull. We've been doing several podcasts 466 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:45,159 and beyond his takes on JFK and Marilyn Monroe and you know, the organized 467 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,960 crime relationships to those events, which he's pretty candid about, not that he 468 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,679 was involved, but that he heard about things and thinks to the organized crime 469 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,880 and the intelligence stages we're working together on those. He also says that he 470 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:05,320 had spent time in prison with one of the Weather Underground people, and in 471 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,599 that case, the Weather Underground guy told him that he was always mystified by 472 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:15,199 the fact that you know, people like Bill Ayers were able to escape trouble 473 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,800 go on to become professors, run foundations and write books about a lot a 474 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,800 lot of the you know, the underlings and the dupes that you know that 475 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,920 they took the heat. So they were basically the tad seas I guess for 476 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,840 these kinds of operations. But I was reading about bottom mine Hoff recently and 477 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,840 I didn't realize that. I think they had attempted some kind of prison break 478 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,480 for one of their one of their girls after the so called terror events that 479 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:47,239 they were engaged in, and that was very similar to the Weather Underground prison 480 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:53,000 breaking timp CIA CIA operative Timothy Leary out of jail. So if you bomb 481 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,639 the police stations in the jails and trying to break your friends out, I'm 482 00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,760 gonna I'm gonna get suspicious. But I think, you know, you start 483 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:07,880 to see these patterns of the radical groups being used by people who are not 484 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,679 that radical, so they're they're just useful dupes and patsies. Yeah. I 485 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,719 always thought Bill Ayres would have fit the perfect mold for a you know, 486 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,320 covert federal informant or some type of operative. And that's the same Bill airs 487 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:28,280 if I if I recall paid for Barack Obama's higher education tuition or something like 488 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,519 this. Yeah, they have very close relationship with the Obama's Obama's mother. 489 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,679 So I mean, I'm just saying it's, uh, you know, quite 490 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,159 a network. Well, I think you mentioned many years ago the character of 491 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:47,519 course smaller in regard to the bottom mine hoffs because here you have this guy 492 00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:52,119 who's this radical leftist, you know, he's a maoist, and then he 493 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,920 becomes suddenly neo Nazi down the road. So you know, these are these 494 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,639 are odd, they're not add if these are suspicious people, but you know, 495 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,800 if they're operating, if they're operating for the establishment, then it makes 496 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,679 perfect sense. So I don't know if that's exactly the case with this guy. 497 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:15,880 I just think it's interesting that when you look into these guys the things 498 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,239 are involved in assisting in the prison escapes and trying to you know, blow 499 00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,280 blow holes in the jail and get people out, and trying to get them 500 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:29,119 to engage in you know, violent actions. That's typically you know, federal 501 00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:34,480 informants are allowed to do that. In fact, the BBC presenter, I 502 00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,760 don't know if he saw this the other day. But I forget the guy's 503 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,400 name, but he's he's a BBC presenter. I guess he's fairly well known. 504 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,480 The environmentalist guy who's saying that it's time for environmentalists to engage in illegal 505 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:53,119 actions. And he basically says something like, it's not something that I'm feeling 506 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:58,119 cold too, but maybe you'll cold to it. Right, it's not and 507 00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,800 that's not incitement, isn't right? Right? Yeah, he gets away with 508 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,800 that because he's a BBC presenter, but he's have you seen that video? 509 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,719 It's it's pretty comical. No, I please share you with me. I 510 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,079 will. He's reflecting on He's like, we've time and again it's exactly the 511 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,320 same lines that we hear from Greta time and again. We've seen all politicians 512 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,960 won't listen, they won't heat our words, they don't want change, they 513 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,360 don't want to take action on climate. Well, maybe it's time for people 514 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,760 to take illegal action. Not me, but maybe you need to. We're 515 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,800 tired of your empty words. Oh my gosh. Yeah, they love it. 516 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,000 These tropes never go out of style. They're very effective. Yeah. 517 00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:45,239 So yeah, it's they're you're talking about the chameleon, right, Going from 518 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,079 far left suddenly showing up as a Nazi, and the one that comes to 519 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,760 mind, and this is like major black mirror territory we're getting into here. 520 00:40:53,800 --> 00:41:00,239 But Sarah Ashton Cirillo, formerly Michael John Cirillo, the English language spokesperson for 521 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:07,719 the Ukrainian military who's trans, turned up a couple of years ago trying to 522 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:14,119 infiltrate the Proud Boys as a trans far right kind of young character or whatever. 523 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,760 Before that, it was a bloke with a wife and kids, and 524 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,039 then shows up in Ukraine as a blonde, as a woman with man boobs, 525 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:29,599 and you know, a trans spokesperson suddenly wiggles their way into the Ukrainian 526 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:34,719 Ministry of Information and doing these totally over the top videos. I mean, 527 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,159 it was crazy, and recently got sacked. They finally had to basically let 528 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:44,559 them go because it was a huge embarrassment and then became an embarrassment for the 529 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:49,239 State Department. And I'm looking at this thing and this story is crazy. 530 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,239 This is just pure insanity. But what I'm saying, Jay, is that 531 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,960 in the era of social media and the ability to publish these videos and do 532 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,360 all this LARPing on Twitter and these different platforms, This is like next level 533 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,760 stuff compared to that type of activity was, you know, thirty forty fifty 534 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,840 years ago. You might get a couple of headlines in the paper, you 535 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,760 might get a blurry interview with sixty minutes or some deep throat parking garage interview 536 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,800 or whatever. Now it's like all in your face all the time on Instagram 537 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:27,119 and everything. So this, this Ashton Cirillo phenomenon, to me just typlifies 538 00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:34,039 the total chaotic nature of this sort of LARPing in the twenty first century. 539 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,880 Now, maybe I'm Ada Lue here. Is this the Ukrainian spokesperson that was 540 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:46,079 talking about the Russian devils need to be crushed? Yes, yeah, American, 541 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,679 Yeah I saw that. Okay, yeah, Yeah. It's bizarre to 542 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,360 me that it's almost like, you know, and then Zelenski wants Marina Ramovich 543 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,480 to be the ambassador I mean for the children. This is for Yeah, 544 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:06,000 this is just wild. I mean it's maybe there's is there is Are they 545 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,239 insane or is there a method to the sincanty That's what I'm always trying to 546 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:14,000 figure out, or they're trying to just figure it out themselves and they're just 547 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:15,920 going for it. But it was. It's interesting that they would choose, 548 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:23,320 if you believe that this Ashton Cirillo character was is LARPing for the deep state, 549 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,440 that they choose somebody in a protected class, i e. A trans 550 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,599 absolutely so that that looked like that was the angle, and this is how 551 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:36,559 it was able to kind of persist. And then at some point it reaches 552 00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:42,280 this saturation point and becomes like a massive embarrassment for everybody, and then all 553 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,400 of a sudden, nobody wants to talk about it. It's literally brushed under 554 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,800 the rug. You don't hear their name anymore in any of the press. 555 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,599 So it's like, but but we're seeing you see this time and time again, 556 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,480 So you can't like the prow Boys, Oathkeepers, JA six, A 557 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,960 lot of informants, very high profile, have huge social or media followings, 558 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:06,280 and yeah, you can't hide or you have to kind of play out your 559 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:15,360 role digitally as well as for government agencies or whoever you're working for. Yeah, 560 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,039 I think that in a lot of these cases with these groups, the 561 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:22,960 key element that we have observed over the years is that you want to if 562 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:29,000 you're the establishment, you want the voice the face of these groups to be 563 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,400 somebody cartoonish and clownish. Right, So what the informant or the provocateur or 564 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,400 the what they want to do is to get the really most radical element of 565 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,800 a group or a sect or a you know, activist collective or whatever. 566 00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,199 You want the most radical one to really become the face of it and to 567 00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,960 push the envelope to push over to the window that well, everybody else is 568 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,039 not really following the agenda except for this you know, super radical guy. 569 00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,679 He's the true believer, and so we've got to match his actions. Maybe 570 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:06,719 let's make him the vocal frontispiece, the face of the group. And this 571 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,679 functions very well to uh, to control the group. Why they would want 572 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,079 this person to be I think maybe this has to do with the strategy that 573 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:21,119 they've been using since this war in the Ukraine kicked off, was that let's 574 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:29,920 paint the Ukraine side as the uh, the rainbow flag and trans side. 575 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,679 If you remember they were they were doing that early on. If you if 576 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:36,960 you support trans rights, then you're with Zelinsky total. This is the war 577 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:43,119 of you know, the transvestites versus Putin's fascism, right, they were characterizing 578 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,880 it that way. So maybe they're they're thinking that if they continue to, 579 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,360 uh, you know, make this association, then people in the West will 580 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:57,760 default to not just siding with Zelinski, because I'm sure they know that this 581 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,639 has a this is a time, This is not gonna last forever, This 582 00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:07,599 conflict will come to an end at some point, but people will have remembered. 583 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,360 You know, when I put out my Ukraine flag out front of my 584 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,280 porch in uh, you know, Tampa, Florida, I was also hoisting 585 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,599 up my Trans flag along with it. And I'm not joking either, Like 586 00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,920 when you drive around. We drove through Orlando the other day and we were 587 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,679 drive through different neighborhoods and I noticed quite a few hous not many, but 588 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,159 the houses that had Ukraine flags hoisted up also had Rainbow and Trans flags hoisted 589 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,079 up. So there is this, there is this association in people's minds with 590 00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:46,719 you know, Zelensky somehow represents the trans and gay rights agenda, which I 591 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,960 suppose in a loose way he does, but the two don't really bear any 592 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,119 connection. But they do bear a connection for I think the longer plans of 593 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,320 the deep state. Yeah, that makes sense, and it makes even more 594 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:06,119 sense that they would put an Ashton Sorillo character into that role to make it 595 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,480 an existential issue, you know, fighting for the existence of that rainbow flag. 596 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,440 Putin wants to snuff all that out, and he wants us all to 597 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,079 be you know, heterosexual, binary, traditional societies. We need to we 598 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:21,920 need to stop him. Zelenski's our man, and Ashton Sorillo's there to kind 599 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,159 of you know, well, most Americans don't know anything about Ukraine, and 600 00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:28,639 so how do we tie them into having a concern. Oh, we make 601 00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:31,119 it a quote humans, human rights issue. So pick the you know, 602 00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:36,840 the latest cause the lab it's not BLM, it's it's it's trans rights. 603 00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,320 So, yeah, that's true, and a lot of antifas supporters, they 604 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:45,480 will reflexively support Ukraine, it will be pro war, they'll reflectively support. 605 00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,000 You can almost predict. That's the scary part. Jay. Now, this 606 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,199 this this social political engineering operation that's been cultivated over the last you know, 607 00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:00,000 twenty to thirty years, has has been very successful. You can almost predict 608 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,960 when you meet someone what they're slate is what their you know, profile pictures 609 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,880 will look like. If you scrolled back on their on their timeline for the 610 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,719 last ten years, you can almost predict what issues they're going to support who 611 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,119 they're you know, like right there, all the current things completely lined up 612 00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,559 in it right there, and almost like that's what it has to be. 613 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,760 You have to kind of it here. We're becoming a very tribalistic society in 614 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:32,239 that sense. Yeah, I think this is an element that people have overlooked, 615 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,000 which is we know about dividing conquer, but dividing conquer is not really 616 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:44,199 just about uh, you know, racial identity or socioeconomic identity. Right. 617 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,639 The dividing conquer, for example, in classic Marxism is the working class versus 618 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:57,000 the you know, the bourgeoisie. Now, the that has morphed into identity 619 00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:02,239 politics of every shade of every form, and that would be the It's weird 620 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,920 how they've tied it to flags. You know, there was a Saturn live 621 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,920 skit many years ago though that was pretty funny where Andy Sandberg was just making 622 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:15,480 fun of different kinds of flags and how everybody's sort of identified with absurd types 623 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,960 of flags, and it was just a really kind of silly, absurdist, 624 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,639 saturate out live skit. But it actually is insightful because what they've done now 625 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:29,599 is given everybody the ability to choose your own flag. It's almost like a 626 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:34,199 consumerist commodity. It's completely divorced from you know, who you are as a 627 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,679 person, where you what country you come from, your family, your family's 628 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,440 heritage of religion. That's all kind of been discarded. And now the flags 629 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:49,199 are in one sense, you could say consumerist identity with Hollywood or Star Wars 630 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,679 or Marvel type nonsense or Disney. But now it's even to you know, 631 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,199 your sexuality, you pick your flag. You know, let's let's make our 632 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,960 own flags at our own will for or whatever identities we make up. And 633 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,000 it's just a perfect kind of not only is an identity, it also allows 634 00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:15,159 for a kind of pseudo self righteousness where you can champion some cause that you 635 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:19,039 feel as just or you feel as right. And I've had a lot of 636 00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:22,239 debates over the years with all kinds of different people, and in most cases 637 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:25,320 people won't have any reason or explanation as to why these are just causes. 638 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,800 They just think that it is. They just think that they're right. They've 639 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,480 not put much thought into well, why do I believe that something is right 640 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:36,519 or wrong? Why do I think this is a just cause? Is it 641 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,639 a just cause? Why are the Fortune one hundred, who you know, 642 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,920 leftist ten years ago thought was the enemy. Now they're the champions of whatever. 643 00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,199 You know, the Fortune one hundred tells them to do it, tells 644 00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,800 them to put a rainbow flag out of it, tells them to put their 645 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,920 bio as a black square in honor of BLM, which ended up being a 646 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,760 giant fraud, money laundering operation. As ever running, Uh, you just 647 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,880 do it right, you do it because that's how you signify that you you 648 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:14,559 are a socially just person. So social justice has has replaced the old ideas 649 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:20,559 of religious justice or objective morality in the sense of you know, people having 650 00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:25,199 a religious perspective. Now the new religion is the civic morality. Social justice, 651 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,159 UH, and identity politics, none of which has any basis, is 652 00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:35,840 all completely arbitrary, completely absurd. It is divorced from reality's postmodern because you 653 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,519 know, you can identify as one thing one minute and change your identity the 654 00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:43,960 next minute, So there's absolutely no connection to reality. And I actually think 655 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,760 this is I think there is evidence from Tavistock and Sri that this is like 656 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:57,119 an intentional uh. They want to cause mania. So the stabilization isn't just 657 00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:06,400 gladio and bombs and shootings. Decabilization is destabilizing, the demoralizing the population. 658 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,760 Yeah, that's what they call in fifth generation warfare. The exactly the cognitive 659 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,800 infrastructure, yes, which is between your two ears. Yes. Well, 660 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:22,039 the NATO dog document on Cognitive workers said, much like Klaus said, this 661 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:28,719 isn't just changing your thought process, This is changing your brain itself. Yeah, 662 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,159 yeah, isn't it. Marshall McLuhan said, the medium is the message, 663 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,519 So you know how the information is being transferred, how it's being handled, 664 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:45,320 what what platforms you're using that that rewires your brain basically right, and 665 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,760 also to eventually get under the skin and change your very DNA like Klaus said, 666 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,840 yeah, well that's it. That's that's an interesting concept because there's a 667 00:52:53,880 --> 00:53:00,599 whole field of science about DNA being programmed by you, by your will, 668 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,559 whatever direction you're going in your environment in the world, that's going to shape 669 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,320 you know, your teenage which is which is an alternative you could say, 670 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,719 an alternative study of genetics, but it's actually got a lot of traction in 671 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,360 recent years. Epigenetics, i think, is one of the terms that's used 672 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,159 for that. That's really interesting, you say that because there's actually a good 673 00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,960 scientific segue to that, So maybe there's there's a lot more there than people 674 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,239 realize. Yeah, I was just looking back at between two ages that resents 675 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,039 getting looked at that in a few years, and within the first fifteen pages 676 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,360 I think it's page fifteen, he talks about that when the technocratic era is 677 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,880 really in place, they will actually alter human biology itself, and so he 678 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,440 kind of hearkens back to Island of Doctor Moreau by H. G. Wells, 679 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,639 and he says that, you know, humans are plastic, they're malleable. 680 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,719 There's no such thing as human nature. And since there's no human nature 681 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,960 and the plasticity a man, he says, yeah, basically, the elite, 682 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,159 the technocratically, we'll be able to mutate man into whatever form they want 683 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360 to make him, essentially just a sort of malleable cog in the machine. 684 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,480 So it's again one of these things that pretty much in all the global elite 685 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,920 texts that we've lectured through. Yeah, they're pretty consistent about this. Jacque 686 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,400 Atili has a whole chapter about being put into the global brain, Brazilski talking 687 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,079 about it. I mean, they're all pretty consistent with that Klaus in his 688 00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:29,360 twenty eighteen book talks about it. That's what I think. I think. 689 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,320 I think we're suffering from that now as a civilization, that global brain, 690 00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:37,320 global group. Think there's tons of this going on right now where people just 691 00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:43,719 immediately will just fall right into a groove that's already been carved out for them 692 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,599 and without without even being conscious of it. I see this so often now, 693 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,079 how globally not just and that that might explain that all the global crisis 694 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:57,840 and the global reaction, how efficient it's been hurting the global hurt if you 695 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,119 will. So, I think there's definite more to explore in that area. 696 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,000 Jay. I think this is a rich vein to tap into right here, 697 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,440 and hopefully you'll be doing more of that in your work, and I hope 698 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,400 we can continue this conversation in the future. Before we go, just a 699 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,880 minute left, Jake, give a shout out about your books, where people 700 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,840 can find your material, how they can get engaged with you. Yeah, 701 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,920 you can go to my website Jason Allisons dot com and you can get access 702 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,639 to the archives there for four ninety five a month. You can also get 703 00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,400 the books in the shop. My wife's books are also there. I have 704 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:37,199 a big six hundred page book out with all the geopolitical and theological essays from 705 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:39,159 the last ten years, all kind of collected in the one book called the 706 00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:43,800 Red Book, and you can find me on Rockkin on Twitter under my name 707 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,679 Jay Dyer. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much, and also thank 708 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,599 you to ar No Devilay. In the first hour, I'm your host, 709 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,360 Patrick henningson top of our news headlines coming up. See you guys tomorrow, 710 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,119 the same time, same place, all the best