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it is time for the main event. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us tonight

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for this episode. Joining us from
West Texas, it is Kevin from Texas

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and good evening again, sir,
how are you doing good evening? Good

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evening, George. I'm doing good. It's great to have you on the

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podcast. Thanks for reaching out as
we always do. Please do introduce yourself

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to the audience. Yes, so
to everybody out there hearing. My name's

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Kevin M from West Texas, Opasso, born and raised here. M thirty

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one years old and I was very
excited to find this this podcast. I've

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been down, as we like to
call it, the rabbit hole, probably

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for about a year. UM,
but I've always been very inquisitive about all

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these things that you know, they're
trying to indoctrinate us with. UM.

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Wasn't a very sure believer of NASA
space moon landing. This was very hard

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for me to swallow and accept.
But you know, I thankfully I met

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a brother of mine. He's one
of my best friends right now, and

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he's the one that basically once we
talked about it one evening, he was

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like, Hey, let me show
you a couple of things that I think

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might interest you and sure enough it
just it. It was almost like confirmation,

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um to the to the feeling that
I had that something just wasn't quite

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right, if I know you understand, George. But um, yeah,

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UM, I am from uh from
opatso UM. I love this this city.

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I was in austin the last two
years. Um, and we just

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moved back fortunately just because of a
family and uh you know, we uh

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had to make that that move.
But it's been, uh, it's been

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awesome just to experience, um,
you know, the community I am.

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I went into the website as well
too. I've chatted a couple of people

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in there, and you know,
I'm just kind of like getting my my

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wheels going and all this. You
know. Um, I think you had

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am a guest. I think not
too long ago. I think in two

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episodes before, you know, he
was talking about he's all about you know,

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action. UM. I'm kind of
like that too, you know,

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I want to do something, be
done with this. But I also,

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UM, I love I love speaking. I've always been really good at speaking,

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and I think I've always used my
voice to you know, get the

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point across and try to be somewhat
of a leader. But you know,

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I'm just very honored to be to
be here with you and thank you for

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inviting me. Well, it's absolutely
a pleasure to have you. And we

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need more of these voices. We
don't have enough voices, and I'm so

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happy to see people because this is
even in the truth community. I will

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honestly say that I have noticed in
the last almost four or five months,

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people are starting to let down their
guard just a little bit. I did

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I do a live show once a
year on my other podcast, and it's

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very large audience, and one of
the callers even brought it up, and

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I kind of poked my eye in
the chat room to see if we were

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going to get any Oh, here
we go with the flatter and it wasn't

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people who were making jokes about heliocentrism. So I do believe that we are

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on a bit of an offensive.
We are, I do honestly leave we

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have a little momentum on our side, and we need to continue to keep

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it rolling. Certainly. Certainly,
um I feel it too. I feel

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there's some some momentum grasping right now
with with society and with obviously so many

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things um going on right now in
the in the world. You know,

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Um, I'm pretty sure you might
have seen. But I just you know,

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obviously yesterday with the whole SpaceX thing, you know, I know,

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we'll get into that with topics and
stuff, but that was just something I

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saw right away, and I was
just like, you know, oh,

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well, you know, they're trying
again. They're trying to go through you

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know, through the through the firmament. They're trying to do all this funny

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stuff, and you know, um, I actually took some notes. I

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was watching some of the videos earlier, but with time, you know,

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right now, I'll get into that
as well, just to kind of point

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out a few things that I,
you know, I saw, and I'm

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just like, it's kind of funny
they're showing this and showing that, you

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know, and you know, with
numerology and a lot of stuff like that,

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it just just doesn't add up.
No, it doesn't add up at

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all. You meant, going back
to your your upbringing and always you know,

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questioning the official narrative and when you
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just enough to look in to the
flat earth, you know, the possibility

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that maybe just maybe we're not on
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Um, was there a particular item
in a video or what was the one

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thing where you really thought, Hum, maybe those folks aren't as crazy as

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as we think they are. Well, you know, kind of I guess

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my upbringing. You know, my
my father he's a Vietnam veteran, so

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growing up with him, you know, it was a very military style home.

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Sure. Um, it's kind of
like, you know, make sure

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you do good in school, you
know, you handle all that stuff,

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you know, but going to school, I mean growing up and you know,

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trying to take these tests and do
these things that they were asking.

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You know, I'm not gonna say, you know, I was a complete

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dummy, but uh, you know
I did my best in school, and

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I was you know, I studied
a lot and took the test to the

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best. But for some reason,
every time I you know, got into

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with you know, when it talked
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it just hey, I guess I
was one of those people that I wasn't

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really intrigued much like I was just
like, okay, cool, I'm reading

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this mcgrawl hill book. You know, it's got pictures and showing me stuff.

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And I had to take you know, name all the planets, all

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of stuff like it. To me, it just was kind of like,

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okay, sure, but you know
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I always questioned. I was like, well, why are we learning about

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this? You know? And uh, you know, how true is this?

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Like I guess it just was something
that just didn't sit right with me,

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you know. And and again,
you know, I was I was

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born in the nineties, so again, all this the system that they took

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over, the education, all that
stuff was already implemented. Yes, well

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within the time I was already there. So there's no way that I can

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you know, comprehend it as as
I do now. But same with that,

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you know, at some point it
just you know, once I finally

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started going down through all this stuff, now I realized why I wasn't so

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intrigued and so poled to to you
know, want to believe all this stuff

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and and learn it. And you
know, I wasn't so fascinated with it.

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But now it just kind of makes
sense because it you know, there's

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just so much things that that doesn't
doesn't make sense. And I don't I

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don't want to beer off or anything, but I just kind of want to

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lead off with you know what kind
of made me think all this stuff is

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sure. I saw the videos,
you know, I've done all the videos,

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looked at the videos, but one
thing stood out to me. And

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I've I've talked to some you know, family members, um specifically, when

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I talked with with my friend Matthew, who's the one that, uh,

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he's the one that basically you know, opened the floodgates for this and he's

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the one that very pretty much you
know, solidified all this stuff in my

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mind. And I was like,
wow, man, it makes so much

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sense. I was trying to tell
him. I'm like, you know what's

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funny is that, you know,
for thirty one years old, and I

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am you know, if we if
we draw, we draw a pigraph,

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you know, we do a PI
graph, and we're doing a percentage of

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scale of like one hundred percent.
And let's say, what they're teaching me

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about the history of Earth, it's
only about to say, I'll run it

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out to even like thirty percent,
right, thirty percent of the knowledge right

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of Earth as it was. But
then the other seventy percent, you know,

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all religions, all backgrounds, everybody
believed that the Earth was flat?

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Why is it that I am going
to go ahead and start believing and learning

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the stuff that on a pie chart
is only thirty percent? You know what

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about the other seventy percent? Like
what happened? Like? Why am I

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not learning what seventy percent of our
total you know knowledge of Earth has been?

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But yet you want me to learn
the thirty percent? Sent It just

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didn't sit right with me, you
know it just it's something to make you

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think that, you know what,
if I was born in the eighteen hundreds,

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you know, how would my mind
work? I think there was a

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there was I saw a video of
this group of people. I guess they

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were interviewing some some lady that I
guess she was. She went to school

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in the nineteen nineteen tens or nineteen
twenties or something, I can't remember,

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but they had asked her a question. They said, hey, when you

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went to school and you learned about
the earth, what did they teach her

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was? And sure enough she was
like, they taught us the earth was

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flat. So I'm like, okay, this is a you know, a

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person that just not too long ago, probably about one hundred years or so,

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admitted that they were teaching that the
earth was flat, you know,

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So it just got into my mind
and thinking, I'm like, okay,

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well then I'm born in this era
and this time, and they're teaching me

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about something different, like what happened? What changed it all? So that's

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where it just kind of just you
know it definitely, it was kind of

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like a eerie sense of feeling like
it was just like something didn't didn't didn't

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feel right. And from that point
on, it was just kind of like,

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you know what I need to I
need to do more research. I

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need to I need to figure out
what's going on here, because it doesn't

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feel right that they're trying to teach
us something, and you know, they've

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taken over the whole education system.
I mean, I've listen. I've been

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listening to all your podcasts, all
the episode. I've listened to other people

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too. It's just I'm I'm done
founding when people want to believe in the

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system, they still want to be
stuck and all that and believe it,

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but they don't think for themselves and
be more of a critical thinker and think,

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you know, what, how are
people learning? You know? On

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hundred years ago, two hundred years
ago, well, how were they learning,

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you know, and why is it
that what I'm learning right now is

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correct and right? It just doesn't
it doesn't sit right. Um. I've

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used another example kind of like a
biblical reference, and UM, I know

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it can mean so many different different
things, you know, but when it's

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talking about you know, I'm pretty
sure I can't. I can't recall it

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right now. I can't look it
up right now, but taking some notes

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down, but it was, you
know, the narrow path, the narrow

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path and the White Path. And
I've tried to tell this with a couple

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of family members and I was just
like, just just think about it,

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said, you know the narrow path, fuel will make it, Fuel go

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through it. You know, fuel
understand it. It's it's just the narrow

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path, right, And the White
Path it's just where it's flatted. So

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many people, so many different ways
to ax sit. So I kind of

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put it in perspective, was like, what if the narrow path was,

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you know, to say, the
flat earth concept, and the White Path

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was you know, the global concept. Right. You know, we got

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heliocentric on one side, and you
know, we got a geocentric sism in

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one side, and I'm just kind
of like, you know, of course,

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everybody's gonna believe the white paths.
It's an easy path to believe what

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they want you to believe right now. But the narrow path, you know,

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not everybody's going to accept it.
That's why nowadays, if you walk

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like you know, we said,
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haven't met and you just start,
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there's a slash, They're automatically just
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the white path, you know,
they don't want to go to the narrow

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path. So it's just so many
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in about a year of fully looking
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just in a way it's kind of
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I don't consider myself all. I'm kind

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of like you know, in the
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it's just I think about the youth, and I think about, you know,

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the younger generations that come to these
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teams. You know, if I
was fooled at that time, how much

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more fooled are they? So it's
almost like such an importance that for the

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there's people such as myself that we
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understand, you know, open their
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be more critical thinkers. I mean, I think you had a guest not

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too long ago with saying he was
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you know, when I went to
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you know, critically think anymore.
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they oppose whatever's being said there,
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they can't think for themselves. You
got to follow the answer, study

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the answer, because it's the way
it is. Yeah, but they they've

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rigged the game too, is um. You know, the way the education

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system is set up now is a
lot of the financing is based on certain

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testings. So uh, instead of
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think critically and and so on and
so forth and maybe try to debunk things

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like how you're supposed to in science, um, that they just you know,

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um, you know, educate the
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time. You know, I think
in Texas it's called the Star test.

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Different states have their own very issue. It was it is star now,

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um when I took it back and
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or something ta K Yes, I
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much now Like before it was only
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it's almost like thirty something credits to
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so much more for them to memorize. Yep. And that's what it is.

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It's education has become memor memorizing versus
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challenging you know, them to write
certain things, get you know,

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based their opinions on certain things.
Let them find the answers, you know,

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challenge the books. And when he
talked about mcgrawl hill, if you

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look at the history of people who
have owned that second sorry, the second

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largest book distributor in the world as
far as educational books, right behind Pearson,

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I mean Gazolaine. Maxwell's father owned
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mid eighties until he died and I
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the Massada offed him, and then
Leon Black from Apollo Management. He had

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direct ties to Jeffrey Epstein. So
the people who who are you know,

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running the people who make our textbook
are not good people. And you know,

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the same people who tell us we
live on the globe are the same

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people who tell us that if you
don't get a certain jab you're going to

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die. And if a guy wears
address, he's a woman. So these

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are all connected, and that's what
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world, you know it. I
think just two days ago. Um,

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you know I was talking about this. It's just and and I hate to

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reiterate, but I know we've been
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Is weren't Von Brown? You know? Um, it's and I just you

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know, I did my research too, and I figured I'm like, okay,

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I'm from Opasso, and Opasso has
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it's anymore. I can probably fact
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largest fort in the United States.
I'm not for sure. But Fort Bliss,

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you know, Um, it's it's
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I mean, they got NASA,
they got you know, I had to

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research and I actually found out that
um, you know, once Project paper

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Clip happened and all this, you
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including himself. You know, we're
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launching of the V two rockets at the

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White the White Tense uh in New
Mexico. It's right. So to me,

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I'm just kind of like, you
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dots and and that's why I feel
like something you know, just me and

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personally in my personal experience, it's
kind of like wow, you know,

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I'm here, like this connects me
to that history, like I know it,

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like you know, but this is
this is someone that that again,

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you know, when I tried to
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and they were kind of like,
you know, their eyes kind of opened

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up wide, and I'm like,
yeah, I'm like, you thought they

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won. I mean, you thought
they lost, but you know, really

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what they did it came over here
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whole NASA did this whole thing,
even did um. He served as a

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spokesman for like I think three Walt
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it's just kind of like, you
know, like he had his footprint

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in all these things. And I'm
like, how do you expect how do

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you accept an organization that was led
by someone that wasn't it was what an

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SS officer too. I mean,
I'm like, you know, as long

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as I say the Nazi words,
they're just like whoa, you know,

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bad guy. I'm like, yeah, but yet you accept an organization right

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now that was pretty much kind I
have found it created, you know,

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led by this person that's that's evil. You know, how do you not

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see the evil in that? And
then so many members will be like whoa,

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okay, that kind of they kind
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and I'm like, yeah, it
shouldn't. But people don't do the

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research. People don't don't don't want
to. You know. It's like what

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you've been saying. Television. You
know they television, they tell you what

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they want you to see, that's
right, they program you. Yeah,

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I've stopped watching news as much as I

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did because, you know, growing
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you know, I want to I
want to keep up to date what's going

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on, But I didn't realize that
when I'm trying to keep up to date,

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I'm really just listening and looking at
what they want me to see and

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believe. So I've recently stopped,
you know, being so like you know,

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up in the morning, watch the
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I do it now because I want
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of the story. I'm not going
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if I don't know what's going on
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I do it now from a different
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Like I said, I'll I'll kind
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what they're saying. Then I kind
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little bit. I'm like wow,
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the SpaceX, you know, yes

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with you know, I saw the
video. I saw it. How it

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just and you know, so they'll
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where they were they were showing like, you know, for some reason,

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to me, it was just like
why are they showing us some of these

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snippets of like you know, uh, they'll show you like the fish eye

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lends. You got to see the
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just momentarily and then they switch off
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and then sure enough boom. You
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engine. But you see, they
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already pre pre programming your mind to
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with the engine. Oh this is
the reason why you know, something didn't

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go right because of the engines.
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I don't think there's nothing to do
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super high intelligent you know, sciences
whatever, rocket sciles, and they're gonna

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have a problem with something that big
the way it was kind of flipping and

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doing a certain you know, at
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I'm gonna tell you honestly, I'm
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around with the firmament, something,
you know, it just didn't allow it.

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that's just me and what I've done

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the research and how I have a
different perspective. But people will see them

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and be like, oh, you
know, it was a fifty fifty didn't

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go right. They knew this was
going to happen, so you know they're

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gonna try again and hopefully by you
know, twenty twenty five, you know

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we got Artemis three going. I
mean, it's just so much, George,

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It's just so much that when you
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you kind of just see the thing
and it's it's it's a madness.

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I mean, three billion dollars on
the contract for Artemis three for the moon

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landing. Yep, it's three billion
dollars, that's right. And the same

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people who are in on that are
the same people who are in on the

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military industrial complex. It's all about
the money. It's all about the power.

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By the way, did you see
when they when they when the cameras

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zipped to Elon, he had his
hands together doing the old pyramid sign.

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Yes, yes, yeah, you
can't make this stuff up now, you

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definitely cannot. It's oh man,
it's that. My family was asking me,

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They're like, well, you know
what, what's your whole big deal?

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Why do you want to know to
what will it change? I'm like,

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I'll tell you one thing. What
it'll to me, what it impacts

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is that we talk about, you
know, well, you know, if

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they finally come clean, just like
in that level documentary talk about you know,

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they'll come clean. Oh, I'm
sorry, we'll pay you back money.

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Sure, that's fine. You know, it might not happen to my

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you know. But the problem is
that this is money that people are you

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know, not receiving for other things
that are most necessary right now in the

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world. Talk about seventy two million
a day. I think it was for

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NASA. UM. That's that's money
that you know, being thrown into some

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project like the three billion dollars for
something that we're gonna end the moon.

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I honestly don't what we never even
win. We and three billion dollars when

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there's so much poverty, there's so
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here in our realm and our earth
that needs the most attention. We're talking

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about programs for helping people how to
you know, learn how to garden,

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how to self sustain, um,
problems with with our criminal justice system,

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all that stuff. You know,
that's money that could go into uh,

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you know, the prisons for for
you know, reformats and all these things

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to like help you know, um, help people. You know, get

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get prepared before they get out.
Um, so that you know, recidivism

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is you know, it's not such
a big thing. It just cuts that

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down. It that's money that we
could be using for all that. And

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to me, it's just like that's
that's what's impactful, is that we're everybody's

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being brainwashed to you know, go
ahead, don't worry about your taxpayer is

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going to go out to this because
you know what, we're going to the

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moon and guess what in a few
more years after, we're going to Mars.

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When people take a hook line and
sinker and yet you know, something

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happens out here or here that's orchestrated, you know, and we're running crazy

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for toilet paper and chicken and eggs
and milk and all that stuff. And

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when they're not teaching people how to
be self sustainable, like you said,

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you know, naturally so that we
can we can provide for ourselves. Um,

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it's it's it's so much control.
I'm telling you. Just recently too,

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I've been trying to not debate,
but I'm trying to get push all

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these little ideas and information to my
family members and trying to let them know

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you'd be like, you know,
we're not running out of resources. But

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that's what it is, is that
they do all this because they don't want

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to lose control. You know,
you're you're dependent on a government for almost

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absolutely everything. But it wasn't made
that way. I believe our creator,

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you know, my goddn't just it
just he didn't. He didn't intend for

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us to to live this way where
we're dependent on the government. Like no,

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everything here in this earth was here
for us so that it doesn't run

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out. You know, we have
the resources, the means to be able

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to self sustain, survive, and
live on. But that's the problem is

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that they they don't want to lose
that power, you know, so they're

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not going to come clean any day
soon. I believe that they're gonna say,

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oh, you know what, yeah, we fake this. They're going

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to keep pushing it off. I
mean, just like all the presidents before

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since I think it was Obama,
but they've been telling oh, in the

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next year, we're gonna go here, and the next year, and in

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the next year the next president too, and the next kick the can down

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the road exactly, and and keep
people just kind of you know, hooked

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in there and just don't worry about
it. Next year we'll be here.

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I kind of had a funny thought
of my mind. It's kind of like

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the I'm in Texas and I know
some Texas listeners and they're this, and

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they might be they might not agree
with me with this, but I'm not

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a Dallas Cowboys fan, but they're
kind of like the Dallas Cowboys. You

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know, this is our year,
this is our year. You know,

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this is ours. But there's just
there's just so much information, George,

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and I'm just happy that, you
know, um, at least in my

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life, whether I go today,
tomorrow, or whenever it's my time,

409
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.640
I'm not gonna leave and depart this
where I'm knowing that, you know.

410
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.920
Oh, I never had the chance
to go to Mars. Know it's not

411
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.160
like that. And that's why I
think since I was growing up, since

412
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.640
I was a young kid, I
never I didn't fall for that. It

413
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.119
was hard for me to believe,
you know, Oh my goodness, even

414
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.880
though yeah, we're you know,
in the Solar system, we're hurling across

415
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.319
you know, the universal and stuff
like it. Just I don't know if

416
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.240
there's some people out there, maybe
there is, Maybe there isn't. But

417
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.799
I believe there's some of those that
just now, especially the young ones,

418
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:32.000
you know, the young generation.
It's just hard. It wasn't it wasn't

419
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.519
easily digest digestible for me. But
once I opened up, this went down

420
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:41.400
the rivle. It's still just clicks, you know, and it just if

421
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:48.200
you allow yourself to have an open
mind, you know, it's it's so

422
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.480
revealing, you know, And I
just hope that I can, you know,

423
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.480
do my part, you know,
Like I said, I try to

424
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.559
do my part with people that I
me. You know, I've learned not

425
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.880
to go straight to that. We
can't go straight to flat earth because that's

426
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:11.559
all we got, Yeah, and
I've learned how to do that, and

427
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.359
it's actually worked. Um, I've
been able to you know, work my

428
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.319
way around with that. And I
see that, you know, once we

429
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.759
have the tools, necessarily the right
words, you know, the right ideas.

430
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.920
Um. And I think this is
probably why you know, this this

431
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.880
momentum that we feel is increasing because
of that, because we have people such

432
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.519
as yourself. Um, there's a
couple of other um, you know,

433
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.720
YouTubers and other people that I've seen
obviously before they get taken down or whatnot.

434
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.519
But um, they're they're I've aulgene
all this information that's helpful to the

435
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.480
community, to us, to help
us, you know, so that one

436
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.400
we're on the streets, we're able
to make connections, make relations with people,

437
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.440
and sure enough, little by little
we can teach them this stuff and

438
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.119
then they're a little bit more you
know, open minded to effective. Huh

439
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.440
okay, that makes a little sense, you know, as opposed to back

440
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.359
in the day. Obviously everybody's just
flatter, flatter, flatter. So yeah,

441
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.839
obviously it was a quick way to
just kind of, like, you

442
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.920
know, let people just oh yeah, no, I mean I've heard it.

443
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.759
I think you said to yourself that
you just weren't. You know,

444
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.839
for a while you didn't know about
so much flat earth and stuff. But

445
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.839
you know, once you found the
right information, then you know, that's

446
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.559
the key to understanding all this.
Yep. And I think if if you

447
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:34.079
leave the bread crumbs, and if
you excuse me one second, I thought

448
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:41.759
I was going to say sorry about
that, folks how to sneeze, But

449
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.480
it's important that you leave good breadcrumbs. And as Kevin was saying earlier,

450
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.759
you have to break the ice and
at the same time, they have to

451
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.039
be willing to the old You can
lead a horse to water, but it's

452
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.279
up to them to drink it.
You've made a couple of great points and

453
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:02.119
two particular points on it. To
kind of expand on number one with the

454
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.240
news. One of the things that
I found tricky once when when you kind

455
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.400
of fully wake up and realize that
I always thought news, Uh, you

456
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.079
know, you'd wake up in the
morning, turn on your Fox News or

457
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.359
your MSNBC or whatever it is that
you'd watch, and you'd have your coffee,

458
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.599
and you'd you'd walk out the door, like you said, full of

459
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:27.640
information and ready to debate your your
your co workers around the water cooler,

460
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:34.079
which turns up being some trivial stuff
that is completely lies and that you know

461
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.519
is another task as a truth or
you're like, well, now I have

462
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.759
to discern what has really gone on
every every news story. When you're fully

463
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.079
awake, you realize these news stories
are meant to evoke certain emotions and get

464
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.319
you to try to think a certain
way. And I always, now that

465
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.119
I'm awake, I look at news
as an acronym a northeast, west south.

466
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.759
They want your brain to be scattered
in off woard directions. It's that

467
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.960
there's a fine line between misinformation,
uh, you know, being misinformed and

468
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:07.119
uninformed. That's kind of the area
where I find myself trying to be right

469
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:14.440
there between being misinformed and uninformed.
Correct. Yes, I mean it is.

470
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.039
You know, like I said,
I don't I don't pay attention to

471
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.799
news in that way anymore. Yeah, but I do it like I said,

472
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.920
because you know, you gotta know. You gotta know the enemy.

473
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.680
You know, when you're going about
it, You're not just going to show

474
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.640
up, you know, blindly.
You gotta understand where they're coming from,

475
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.680
it, what angle. So I
do it in that sense now, you

476
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:37.039
know, just to like I said, to see what they're really telling people

477
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.440
out there exactly exactly. You have
to know the enemy. That is a

478
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.920
big one. The other thing you
really hit a home run on. And

479
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.720
this is the rabbit hole that I've
been going down as much as I can.

480
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.440
Certainly, at some point during World
War Two, I'm thinking around nineteen

481
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.319
forty three, we started getting some
of the German intelligence, and some of

482
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:04.960
that intelligence we came across was New
Swabia and the information that Germany had on

483
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.039
Antarctica. Because we're talking about a
four year war. I mean, some

484
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.920
of these guys had been away from
their family for four years and then the

485
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.519
next year you're going to load up
and then and send all these battles literally

486
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:23.480
battleships, this, this entire fleet
down to Antarctica. So I'm thinking that

487
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:29.079
they knew they went down there and
they validated there is the firmament, because

488
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.559
if you start shortly after that,
you nailed the hammer on the head.

489
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:39.440
Nineteen fifty five was Man in Space
with Warner von Braun and uh Walt Disney.

490
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:46.079
And Walt Disney was a thirty third
degree Freemason. So I think between

491
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.079
you know, forty six and the
early fifties, we went from science to

492
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:57.920
science fiction. Yep. And and
it's true that's one thing that I've also

493
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.320
talked about two when I try to
you know, um commence peoples, like

494
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.719
you know, when they're a thirty
third degree, how many of our presidents

495
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.519
I can't even do the facts here
right now, but if you look back

496
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.639
in the history, how many presidents
were of the thirty third degree? You

497
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.199
know, they're all they're all part
of of this, you know, freemasonry,

498
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.639
Like they're all part of this this
thing and they're it's no coincidence,

499
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.599
none at all. But yeah,
I mean when Antarctica, I mean just

500
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.599
itself. You know, when you
try to argue with someone or you try

501
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.719
to tell them and they're like,
no, no, they that doesn't make

502
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:32.119
any sense. They just probably don't
want us to go down there. I'm

503
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.760
like, well, why you know, why why did you know? However

504
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.599
many countries, you know, I
think it was thirty forty different countries.

505
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.639
You know, they all get together
and they say, okay, you know,

506
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.199
let's not letting nobody in there,
and you know, let's hold this

507
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.400
key, this power, this this
knowledge that we know something, so that

508
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.719
we could just have them look here, not there where they're supposed to be

509
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:59.320
looking. You know, I think
it was your one of your guests.

510
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.840
I love that that he talked about. Think it was a chrism he was.

511
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.840
I think it was him. He
was talking about the uh, you

512
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.000
know, how how how they do
meetings. You know, they go behind

513
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.079
a closed door and there's no cameras
and stuff. And he said, you

514
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.440
know, it's just like your your
children. You're not gonna tell them,

515
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.320
you know, you're not going to
discuss everything that you need to do or

516
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.800
what's really going on right in front
of them. You go out to the

517
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.840
basement, you go out to the
backyard, and then and then you come

518
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:24.480
back inside. When I try to
tell people, I'm like, you know

519
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.519
that that's what happened right there,
Like, oh, well, you know,

520
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.599
we have to trust him, okay, trust him, but but why

521
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.880
you know? They're like, well, what do you mean you can't go

522
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.199
to Antarctica? And now I can. I'm pretty sure if you know,

523
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.320
I had the millions of dollars,
I could probably go there. I'm like,

524
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.039
yeah, good luck, buddy,
you can't do that. And then

525
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.840
they're just like, well why,
And then we're like, exactly, this

526
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:52.440
is exactly why we're on writing now
on what we're trying to uncover, what

527
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.199
we're trying to, you know,
get them to reveal, to understand that

528
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:02.280
there's a reason why they don't.
I honestly believe, you know, what

529
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.960
was it? Um? General Bird? Was that his name? Um?

530
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.039
You know everything you talked about,
Um, I honestly believe it's true.

531
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.960
You know, I obviously believe it's
true. It's this, this world is

532
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.039
uh, it's it's it's massive,
you know. UM. I think I

533
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:27.199
was hearing something else earlier to they
were talking about you know that the maps

534
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.280
the way they're outlined, that they're
not entirely true. You know, they're

535
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:31.480
a little edgy, a little sketchy
here like that. But the way that

536
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.360
the continent there, that's not exactly
how they are, you know, because

537
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.239
how true can we be of that? You know? And that that talks

538
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.239
about, you know, the the
grandness of God, you know, and

539
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.800
and how great this this place is
that He made for us. There's a

540
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.719
um, there's and and I'm telling
you I growing up here, born and

541
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:58.719
race here in the past. So
um the Franklin State Mountain Park. Um,

542
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.960
there's a uh, there's like a
top peak that you can you can

543
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.039
climb right and there's an area that
you can go up and they call it

544
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.400
Monday's Gap, which is most people
go you can go up there, and

545
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.559
you can run up there and then
it kind of does a U turn and

546
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:15.599
then laps back back down. But
if you have a you know, park

547
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.039
ranger someone, they can take you
up past Monday's Gap. You know,

548
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.519
some more intermediate type of hike.
You know. Now you're kind of grabbing

549
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.639
on rocks and using your knees and
stuff to climb up and you get up

550
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:34.000
to this the highest peak of the
mountain, right, And I remember I

551
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.519
now remember now I was talking to
this with my coworker, with Matthew,

552
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.320
and I told him, I said, wow, man, I said,

553
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.199
I'm just remembering something right now.
I said. When I went up there,

554
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:49.480
I was about maybe fourteen fifteen years
old, and we went up there

555
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.559
as a part of the it was
the Opasto Police Explorers program, right,

556
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.960
and we went up there as a
group. I was in the group as

557
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.760
well. And when we got up
there to the top, you know,

558
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:07.559
the scenery is I remember now.
It's just there's places where you could see

559
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.760
the white sense area. Then you
go a little bit more further back and

560
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.079
you can see where Cloudcroft begins,
where the pine trees and Redoce and all

561
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.599
that and and just a three sixty
view. You know now that I remember

562
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.920
it in my mind, it's like
when they try to talk to you about

563
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.679
the curvature and like you know,
the drop and also like now I live

564
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.519
onund like there was no such thing
as no courage. I mean I'm talking

565
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.559
about from more past. Why I
could see all the way where in New

566
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.559
Mexico and Cloudcroft where the pine trees
begin. You could see the coloration of

567
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:44.159
the land from desert white sands,
a little bit more brown and then suddenly

568
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.320
green. You know, I don't
even know how long, how far that

569
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.239
is, I mean, but I
would love to try to see, if

570
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.719
you know, somehow we could measure
that and see that, and I would

571
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.360
be able to measure. And that's
from my own eyes, not an iPhone,

572
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.960
you know, camera. No,
this is with my own ocular vision.

573
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:06.639
I was able to see that far. There's no better feeling, you

574
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.320
know, once you're down in this
rabbit hole and you finally remember your experience

575
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.599
in the past, and I'm like, wow, it was right there in

576
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.599
front of me the whole time.
Yeah, precisely. I had the same

577
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:21.320
thought. And bringing back divisions from
Manitou Springs in Colorado, you could see

578
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.679
the Kansas. You could see forever, and it was the horizon was completely

579
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:28.440
flat. There was no curvature whatsoever. But again, we have to be

580
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.280
I wasn't at that part of my
life where I was willing to open my

581
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.840
mind that far quite yet, unfortunately. But now I'm you know, I'm

582
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.840
really hoping in the next year I
can I still have friends back there obviously,

583
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.320
and I'd love to go back and
climb it one more time and take

584
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.840
a picture, and that would be
a keeper for sure. Oh you know

585
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.960
I am now that I said,
I moved back now and now that I'm

586
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.639
I'm here, I'm it's in my
bucket list, like at the top of

587
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.119
it, I'm like, I need
to go back up there. Game because

588
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.320
you could do it. It's usually
about a if you go like at seven

589
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.880
in the morning, you get up
to the very top, probably about like

590
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:07.159
twelve o'clock and then coming down is
about to like three four, so almost

591
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.400
in a days work. But still
I'm like, I'm gonna go do it.

592
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.559
I'm gonna take some pictures. That's
awesome, you know, I want

593
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.599
and I want to share it with
you know, with the community and anybody

594
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.440
else I might ask and just be
like, look, how is this possible?

595
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.079
Exactly? It's with the math.
Their math. It's it's it's their

596
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:28.000
math. And of course they'll bring
up refraction and all this other uh scientists

597
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.400
and what are you gonna do.
Two things I really want to again go

598
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.320
back on that you mentioned. Number
one. Shout out to Paul who emailed

599
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.840
me on April twelfth and he shared
this with me. I may have come

600
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.039
across it before, but I don't
recall it. One of the main parts,

601
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.159
you know, they talk about you
if you spend the however many thousands

602
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.840
of dollars, they'll fly it a
chilly or whatever, and then they'll take

603
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.559
you to the little ceremonial part of
Antarctica where you know, they have the

604
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.840
thing in the ground and the penguins
are there. You take your picture and

605
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.320
you head back. I didn't know
the two names of the islands, and

606
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.320
I look these up. This is
legit. Shout out to Paul. One

607
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.719
of the islands is called Deception Island
and the other one is called Roth's Child

608
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.000
Island, and it is named after
Jacob Roth's Child. So and you guys

609
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:21.360
can look it up and verify for
yourself. It's it's one hundred percent legit.

610
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.360
So shout out to Paul for pulling
it out to me. That's big

611
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.960
time. You can look it up
right on the old Wikipedia. It's right

612
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:34.079
there. The other big thing is
one president that nobody ever talks about,

613
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.239
and me too. And he was
a Freemason, and it's interesting because he

614
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:45.639
was the thirty third president and Harry
Truman was a thirty third degree Freemason.

615
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.760
Now listen, he I think he
became president that day Lincoln was shot to

616
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:58.039
Lincoln assassination. Let me just fact
check myself while I had my computer right

617
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.280
in front of me. It was
April feenth. I was wrong. Okay,

618
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:07.039
maybe the twelfth was the Titanic.
But Truman was inaugurated, which is

619
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:13.639
weird, April April twelfth, nineteen
forty five. And he was given his

620
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:20.400
thirty third degree freemason on October nineteenth, nineteen forty five. So I mean

621
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.360
six months after he was in office
he became a thirty third degree Freemason.

622
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.199
And he was president from forty five
to fifty three, all of this while

623
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.159
high Jump and all this other stuff
was going on. Wow, and you

624
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.519
said April fifteen, Remember you were
seeing earlier. I think in another episode

625
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:43.039
you're seeing April fifteenth to April nineteen. Yeah, that's usually yeah, Yeah,

626
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.760
That's why I do the live show
for April nineteenth. That's a very

627
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:51.559
significant date with you know, the
Satan worshipers. For lack of better words.

628
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.480
You look at what happened at Waco
in Oklahoma City. They were both

629
00:43:53.480 --> 00:44:00.239
April nineteenth events. The Columbine shooting
was April twentieth, of course. Wow.

630
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.519
I mean it's just it's almost like, you know, it's almost like

631
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.920
a spin in the face sometimes it
feels that way, you know, like

632
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:14.039
it is, but it's the same
humanity. It's right under our nose.

633
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.760
We we just refuse to look at
it exactly. I mean the deception,

634
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.639
you know, like the deception like
it's just wow, like you know,

635
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.079
it's right there, like like they're
not afraid to tell you, like right,

636
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.599
like you know, look here haha
on your face. And it's like

637
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.199
but but people just think, oh, what a unique name. You know,

638
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.280
it's it's definitely uh, it's struggling. Like I said, you know,

639
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.760
um, there's just so much,
so much information out there needs to

640
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:52.159
be you know, understood and not
be misled because I think that's the problem.

641
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.599
Uh, you know, you know, it's just it's really bad.

642
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:01.079
I mean just with with everything like
you you were talking about the bud Lie

643
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:05.079
commercial stuff like that. There's just
so much information out there that you throw

644
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.039
out there to keep everybody distracted.
Precisely, Yeah, with the dude and

645
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:13.199
the dress on the beer and everybody
for a week. Yeah, I mean,

646
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.719
you know, instead, like we
should be talking about all this,

647
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.920
like I said, because it's to
me, like I said, it's it's

648
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:24.119
troubling because especially in the education system, it's you know, they don't teach

649
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.840
you know, these young kids about
um, you know, how to handle

650
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:35.440
your finances better, you know,
how to you know, learn trades,

651
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.039
learn things that are going to be
beneficial. You know, they're they're they're

652
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.400
not they're not doing none of that
stuff. They're they're limiting what we're able

653
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.559
to do for ourselves, and they're
creating, you know, more dependency on

654
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.400
like you know, uh, robots
and and things that are you know,

655
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.960
do our jobs. And you know, so children don't don't grow up with

656
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.440
that initiative to to want to to
learn things and to do it for themselves,

657
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.320
because they're just kind of like,
oh what do I need it for?

658
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.360
You know, there's technology now,
yeah, I don't need to you

659
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:10.639
know. I mean back in the
day, I still remember my dad used

660
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.519
to take us on trips. You
know, we used to go everywhere,

661
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.239
um and Roswell basically almost all all
of New Mexico. Um. I've been

662
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.039
through all those areas and visited Silver
City, all these places, you know,

663
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.960
but I remember that my father back
in those days, he had a

664
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.280
map, you know, foldable map. Absolutely, we didn't. We didn't

665
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.960
even have a Tom Tom back then. We had a straight up map.

666
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.199
It was a map, you know. And it's like if if you try

667
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.599
to introduce that nowadays to you know, let's say, uh, and I'm

668
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.079
not saying that all youth is you
know, ignorant, they're not done.

669
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.679
But the scale of it, you
know, if you hand it to someone,

670
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.599
they're just gonna be like, what
do I do with this? You

671
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:51.360
know, I'm lost. I can't
get to my destination where there's food,

672
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.519
water and supplies. You know.
Let me just pull on my phone.

673
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.880
Oh but you don't have a phone. Oh well, and I guess you

674
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.960
know, I'm goner. That's why
I drive a stick shift. I can

675
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.280
leave my windows down and I'm not
have to worry about anybody stealing it.

676
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:08.400
That's so true. No, you're
right, there's all those things that we're

677
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.519
just we're moving away from it,
you know, and it's it's scary to

678
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.119
see, you know, because you
know, when we think about it,

679
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:21.800
like I said, we don't know
when when the time's coming, you know,

680
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.039
we don't know at any time.
We don't know if it could be

681
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.920
tomorrow or one hundred years, We
don't know when. But at the rate

682
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.719
that we're going, you know,
with our society, with our civilization,

683
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.559
the way that we're going, it's
it's scary to see that, you know,

684
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:43.639
all this power is is being given
to just an organization. You know.

685
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.719
I mean, like I said,
Matthew had taught me to said,

686
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.440
you know, they're trying to take
all this power like by you know,

687
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.599
twenty thirty. You know, they're
they're trying to get you know, created

688
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:58.119
a one world you know, power
with and all that stuff. And I've

689
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.199
seen, you know, he's shown
me so many different other documentaries. I've

690
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.519
like I said, I could sit
here only and talk about so many different

691
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.440
things because I've I've been down a
blessed to be for like, you know,

692
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.280
almost a year. But you know, it's it's scary. It is

693
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:19.079
scary, you know, and we
we we need to get we need to

694
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.480
put all this information out more.
You know, people need to you need

695
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.400
to start waking up kind of like
the matrix, right, give them that

696
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:30.480
a red pill, right, that's
right. And there's some people say,

697
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.480
well it's twenty thirty it's it's way
down the road. Listen twenty fifteen.

698
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.320
When you say twenty fifteen, that
seems like a couple of years ago.

699
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.360
Twenty fifteen was eight years ago.
We are only six and a half years

700
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:47.880
away from twenty thirty exactly. And
it's I mean, there's just so many

701
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.679
things. Uh. Like I said, when I try to, you know,

702
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:53.440
talk to whoever I want want to
talk to, I don't. I

703
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.559
don't. I don't go straight.
I dropped the bread crumbs and do all

704
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.880
this stuff. But it's like you
show them little things I've told them about,

705
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:06.000
like you know, the the the
preconditioning of so many things. You

706
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.880
know, and I never thought about
it. But when they when you learn

707
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.440
it about it, it's like kind
of like the globes and stuff. And

708
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.159
when they teach you, like you
know, you know when I've led off

709
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.159
with this before with the universal pictures, right, and I'm like, what's

710
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:17.920
the first thing you see when you
see in a movie? They go,

711
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.320
yeah, oh, it's like that
universal I'm like, yeah, but not

712
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.119
the universe. But what is it. It's like, Oh, it's it's

713
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.840
the Earth, you know. That's
I'm like, that's what you think it

714
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.880
is? There it's like, yeah, well, that's that's our earth,

715
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.639
that's us. And I'm like,
and you see it every time you see

716
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:37.199
a movie, you know it.
It's preconditioning your mind. And then there's

717
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.159
their way of telling us the truth. Every time a Disney thing kicks off,

718
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.159
it kind of throws the firmaman at
you, that little sparkly thing over

719
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:46.960
the top of Disney that pops up. Yeah, what did you say?

720
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.920
You said, Hollywood gives us,
Yeah, the lies in the media and

721
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.800
truth in Hollywood. Yes, yeah, and it and it is and it's

722
00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:00.679
just you know, um, it's
tough. It's tough, George, But

723
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:06.400
you know, I'm just glad that, um, I'm able to have all

724
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.360
this knowledge. And one thing that
I will touch touch on greatly is you

725
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.599
know, um, I think my
friend Matthew for this, because he did

726
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.719
say it was like, you know, reiterate the fact of you know,

727
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:22.519
discernment. The gift. It's a
gift, you know, I feel it's

728
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:27.960
it's a gift because we we were
given this gift. You know, I

729
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.840
feel I was given this gift to
understand, you know, discern all these

730
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.079
things. But it's a gift to
be able to use right now you know,

731
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:45.280
to to use it and appreciate it
because it is it's almost like you

732
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:54.039
were given this gift of vision to
be able to help others remove that you

733
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:59.360
know, that that bail from their
eyes, you know. And and I'm

734
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.679
I'm grateful. I've gone through so
many things in my life and obviously you

735
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.320
know, I won't go into detail
of that stuff, but it hasn't been

736
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:10.840
an easy life. But I'm truly
blessed and grateful that God has helped me,

737
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.599
and He's helped me in so many
ways. He's been there with me.

738
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.440
I know he holds me by the
hand and carries me in the right

739
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:22.760
direction. And I know to this
day that this right here, where I'm

740
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.360
at right now is not by you
know, some coincidence something. No,

741
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:31.639
it's it's it feels right because it's
his gift to connect people in this world

742
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.920
that I believe. You know,
we're on the narrow path, you know,

743
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.840
I'm not on the white path,
because that's the easy way in life.

744
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.400
The things that are the truth in
this life, they will set you

745
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.360
free. But it's hard. It's
hard, and nobody wants to do it.

746
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.199
Because if it was that easy,
when I try to you know,

747
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.400
convince my family members too. It's
like, well, why aren't we all

748
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.320
just thinking the earth is flat?
Then? Why isn't it not the earth

749
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.440
is flat? And to the globe
people or people that believe the earth is

750
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:05.320
ground, and you know, we
think that they're crazy, you know stuff,

751
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:10.559
Why isn't it not like that?
Yeah, you know, it's it's

752
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:15.039
it's it's a blessing, you know, I feel it is. And I'm

753
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.199
just thankful, you know, to
have this information because yeah, surely my

754
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:24.159
children, you know, I have
a have a daughter, and uh,

755
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.880
I hope, um, as she
gets older, I hope that I'm able

756
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.480
to you know, feature this stuff
through the discernment that God gives me and

757
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:37.519
hopefully I'm able to help her understand
these things. And I have faith that,

758
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.599
um, she'll be able to also
you know, pass this on hopefully

759
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.760
once she understands it, because you
know, these these generations that are to

760
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.880
come, they're they're going to be
here after us, and we just got

761
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:54.360
to hope that they're you know,
making the right choices and helping you know,

762
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.119
fight you know, the evil.
It's always a good versus evil fight

763
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.760
in this world. It's all principalities
in a spiritual warfare, you know.

764
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.639
Yeah, it's that's exactly what it
is. It's it's good versus evil.

765
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.039
And if you're going to teach your
children anything, discernment should be. It

766
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.239
is certainly in your top three because
if you look what they've thrown at us

767
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:22.320
the last three years, discernment can
literally save your life, Yes, sir,

768
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.159
and that's do you want to go
down the narrow way and be the

769
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.639
odd man out but still have your
health and your your faith and not that

770
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.840
if you went the other way you
didn't have your faith. Don't please misconstrume

771
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.239
me. But um, everything that
comes from your your television is meant to

772
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.719
deceive you. You know. Every
now and then, of course they're going

773
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.320
to sprinkle in some truth with the
lies, because if they if they straight

774
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.719
up lie to us every single time, people would eventually catch on. And

775
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.360
that is at the core of Deceit
is to take a little truth, mix

776
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.960
it in with a little lies,
just enough to deceive you to get you

777
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:01.519
go down the path that they want
you to go down. Exactly. I

778
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:06.000
mean it's hard for them to keep
up with their lives now, yeah,

779
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:07.119
exactly. Just like when you were
a kid, you told a couple of

780
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.960
FIBs and you're trying to remember what
you said to mom last time, and

781
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.119
you end up, you know,
getting yourself caught eventually, and the technology

782
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.639
as well with it too, you
know, I mean we've we've seen so

783
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:22.719
many I mean it's just some some
crazy dump stuff, you know, when

784
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:24.719
they've talked about also we lost all
the you know, the data and all

785
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.599
this stuff. We don't have that
technology anymore. Okay, all right,

786
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.079
well but we have technology back then
in those times, but then now we

787
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:36.840
don't have it. You know,
they know that they there's going to come

788
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.679
a time when they're not going to
be able to keep up a technology.

789
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.679
You know, people are asking,
well, when they do do this,

790
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.320
you know, when they go to
the moon or are they do an orbital

791
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.639
pass or whatever, are they going
to do a live feed? And you

792
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:50.800
know they're going to tell you no, probably now we're just do a couple

793
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:52.920
of cut ins here and kind of
well, of course, because you know

794
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:54.320
that there's so much technology out here
and people that are going to be able

795
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.800
to recognize a live feed and be
able to see like it doesn't look right.

796
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:06.719
They might even see a couple of
air bubbles. You know, I've

797
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.840
seen all those videos, I've seen
all the Nazi stuff, and then it's

798
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.519
just you know, the wires and
all this stuff, and I'm just kind

799
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.639
of like, you know, that's
why the people that have not seen that

800
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:22.840
stuff they believe it. But it's
not until you see it that do that.

801
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.440
Then do you believe And you're just
like whoa, Like wait, because

802
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.679
it's there, all this information is
there. It's there for us. We

803
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.000
could see it, and there's people, like I said, as yourself that

804
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.920
are helping us see that. But
the problem is that that's what I'm saying,

805
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.440
is that youth or humanity is they're
losing the initiative to go and get

806
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:45.719
online and look it up. Instead, they'd rather be on their social media,

807
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.599
they'd rather be doing other things,
other different vices that are you know,

808
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.320
constructed and created there by the government
to keep you busy so that you

809
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.559
don't go in there and look at
all this stuff up. Yeah, that's

810
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:02.239
that's the problem. Indeed, our
priority and Kevin just mentioned about the water

811
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:07.639
bubbles, U ta take post the
podcast for a second and look up NASA

812
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.679
Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory. A lot of
these things they film are right there in

813
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:15.639
Houston, Texas thirteen thousand Space Center
Boulevard. You'll see things that look like

814
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:21.199
the ISS and uh, you'll see
people underwater doing their training. And then

815
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:24.639
you'll also see a very famous picture
of George hw Bush being wheelchaired in and

816
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:29.280
in the background, Uh, you
see that one of the guys who quote

817
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:34.239
unquote was on the isssu standing in
front of a green screen. YEP,

818
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:37.599
I mean the movie what was then
Interstellar and all this stuff. Like when

819
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.840
I when I try to I use
this also for like a convincing argument.

820
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:44.800
I'll tell them be like I'm like, okay, well, I mean if

821
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.320
you know they could do this,
you know with Sandra Bullock or whatnot,

822
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.719
you know, and you see it
in your own TV and you're just like,

823
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:55.079
wow, that looks so real.
I'm like, why can't ask to

824
00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.760
do that? Also? And yet
you don't know who at the next whoever

825
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.800
the astronauts are, whoever you know, you see them, you don't know

826
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:06.519
them, so you don't think that
they're a movie actressing. But they're doing

827
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.440
exactly the same thing that Sandrew Bullock
was doing, So why can't they do

828
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:13.960
that and make you believe that they're
also in space? So then you know,

829
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.119
they'll sit there and they're kind of
their brain will kind of be,

830
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.599
you know, clicking a little bit
and be like, well, I don't

831
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.679
know, I mean maybe, I'm
like, oh maybe. Every time I

832
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.880
hear them say the maybe word,
I counted as a win. I do.

833
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.920
I taliate it all my little you
know, because it's better to hear

834
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.440
that maybe than no, no,
no, Because once you got them at

835
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.639
maybe, you're just kind of like, okay, you know you you planted

836
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:43.039
the steed now that means yeah,
and eventually got them think exactly, and

837
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.519
you see that as a part right
there that helps us. You know,

838
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:52.679
I understand that critical thinking aspect of
life that I think every human being should

839
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.800
have. We don't do it as
much. There's not a lot of critical

840
00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:01.360
thinkers in this world because sometimes their
upbringing, you know, they were oppressed

841
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.440
or they were abusishness, so they
don't they don't want to go back to

842
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:10.079
that because there's a negative connotation to
their experience, you know. But if

843
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.440
you help them you don't understand that
hey, it's okay for you to ask

844
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:19.360
questions, it's okay for you to
think on your own. Then it allows

845
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.199
that mind to grow and be able
to say, well, maybe maybe it

846
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:27.000
is this other way, because all
I've been ever taught is that it's just

847
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:32.079
this way that's right, and there's
legitimate meaning to the truth will set you

848
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:37.800
free, because you know, for
May flat Earth was that last part of

849
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.599
the puzzle. And just like Manley
P. Hall said, there was a

850
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.800
great veil that fell, and I
realized, I only answer to God.

851
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.199
Right, I'll respect man's laws and
everything, but I only answer to God.

852
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.920
I don't I don't have to go
to the Constitution to say I have

853
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:53.880
freedom of speech. God gave me
the right to have freedom of speech.

854
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:59.480
And they've been very smart about how
again, which like you said, through

855
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:04.960
the education system, how we always
refer back the government said I can do

856
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.159
it right, And that's that's kind
of how they get a hook line and

857
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:12.280
sinkers to completely depend on them.
And even going way back to what you

858
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:16.360
said thirty minutes ago, is about
how they want us to depend on them.

859
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:22.000
People freak out when there's a shortage
of something at the grocery store.

860
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:25.079
Oh my gosh, there's not enough
of this because it's not at the grocery

861
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:30.039
store. And instead of us figuring
out alternative ways to supply yourself with these

862
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:35.159
type of things. We just keep
going to other grocery stores because even so,

863
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.159
even if you hoard so much of
X, Y or Z, whether

864
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:42.719
it be rice or corn or whatever, it eventually could run out. What

865
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.360
are you doing personally to be able
to replenish your stock? Make sure you

866
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.639
know, if it's at all possible, grow your own food, not just

867
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.119
because you can supply yourself, because
you know it's not having all that nasty

868
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:58.639
GMO stuff in it, exactly.
Big, I mean, I agree with

869
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:04.639
that completely. My grandfather, Um, I remember when I was a child,

870
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.920
he uh he had a he had
a garden in his backyard and uh.

871
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.400
He passed away when I was about
maybe eight years old, so I

872
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.159
was very young. But I remember
that growing up with him, like I

873
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:19.559
would. I would go back there
with him in the weekends and go back.

874
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.480
He'd be back there like six seven
in the morning, you know,

875
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:29.519
watering rake and doing all stuff.
He had all kinds of different um vegetation

876
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.079
and fruits and trees and all this
stuff, you know, and it was

877
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.960
it was beautiful to me because I
was like, we don't got to go

878
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.440
to the store down there, and
you know, and and and and buy

879
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.679
something like I just pick it out
of the tree and it was fresh natural,

880
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:47.960
you know it. It's let me
tell you, it's so scary because

881
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:54.760
I worked through the pandemic right when
when it hit in March. Um I

882
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.559
was still here in Opasso, So
I was working here in Opasso, and

883
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.639
and I worked at a grocery store
and when it hit, you know,

884
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.920
they give us these little papers that
said you're an essential worker. Um and

885
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:07.360
I remember our bosscut and it says
he's like, hey, which is kind

886
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.280
of funny because it's funny that they
knew this was already gonna happen, right,

887
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.199
They already had those papers ready to
go. Yeah, they had him.

888
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.320
And I remember they called us in
and one of my um my boss,

889
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.119
he called me. He's like,
here, you need to sign,

890
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.800
you know, sign a paper too
that they were giving us this too,

891
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:23.800
which was kind of funny at the
time. I was like, okay that

892
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.079
let me be saying. He's like, carry this with you if it happens

893
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.440
or if it doesn't, you know, but just have it on you because

894
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.159
you'll be an essential worker and you'll
be able to come through here and and

895
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.320
work. But at the time,
I was like, come through here.

896
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.239
What you're making seem like I gotta
go through the DMZ or something like what

897
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:42.639
what are you talking about? Like
I gotta you know, and he was

898
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.679
just like just holding and sure enough, I think it was like a couple

899
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:46.639
of days there or the next day
or something. You know, They're like

900
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.880
everybody stay home. Nobody moved unless
you're an essential working and goal. So

901
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.480
I was just like, okay,
grab my little paper. I stuffed it

902
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:59.440
in my backpack. Um. I
lived relatively close to I was like probably

903
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.559
about I minute walk away from from
my work. So I ended up walking

904
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.840
and I'm going through this empty lot, sure and others two police units and

905
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.559
there in their vehicles, and I'm
walking by, and sure enough, they

906
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.639
roll up right next to me and
they look at me, and I think

907
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:17.840
they didn't really question me so much
because I was wearing, you know,

908
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.079
my uniform with the hat and the
logo of the store right across the street.

909
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:23.320
So I just looked at me and
they said, hey, you worked

910
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:27.320
there, and I was like,
um, yeah I do. And I

911
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.800
started getting my paper out and so
I kind of opened it up and they

912
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.159
were just like okay, no,
no, you're good didn't even look at

913
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.880
it, and it's but they're just
like, yeah, you're good, go

914
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.199
ahead. So you know, I
was just like, okay, that's that's

915
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.960
weird, you know, like what's
going on. But what I'm trying to

916
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.000
get to the point is that once
we had people going in there shopping,

917
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:47.480
like when you work there and you
see everybody coming in and you know they

918
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.280
don't have the freedom to be out
and about when they go in there,

919
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.480
it was like almost chaos. You
know, they're walking and they're trying to

920
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:58.039
buy this. There was fights and
suing here and there, you know,

921
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.079
over this and that, like and
you know, I'm trying to work through

922
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:06.119
it. And it was just kind
of like something to see in a lifetime

923
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.119
where you're just like, you know, hey, what's going on. You

924
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:10.480
know, like they're they're finding over
something I think is not going to be

925
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:15.880
available when the next truck's coming out. Oh but wait, there's no truck

926
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.320
now coming out because the shipping a
part of the you know, the factory

927
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.960
is closed out too, so now
they don't have you know, they're not

928
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:27.599
going to be here anymore. And
so it was just something that's very scary

929
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.199
to see the dependency of people,
you know, not just the control of

930
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:35.159
the government that you know, kind
of felt like a martial law, you

931
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.519
know, can't leave your house,
you know, all this other stuff.

932
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:45.000
But there there wasn't an uh a
snowstorm that hit in Austin in twenty twenty

933
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.480
one, I believe, and they
weren't prepared. I think you might have

934
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:54.000
heard of it, my daughter,
Yeah, yeah, I actually was there,

935
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:58.239
and it was horrible. I mean, our apartment was like you know,

936
01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:00.920
it was all electricity, so electricity
went. We have no means,

937
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:05.039
but I thankfully again, I worked
at a at a grocery store there,

938
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.840
and I remember that we were called
in to go only like five of the

939
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.400
show. It was only three cashiers, myself and another groceries person, and

940
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:19.519
nobody wanted to, you know,
come to work because I mean the condition

941
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:23.280
of the drive was just horrible.
You know, you couldn't drive. It

942
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:28.400
was all ice everywhere. So there's
a long line of people waiting outside.

943
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:30.039
They're just bagging open the doors.
We need to get in by stuff.

944
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.840
I'm like, I can't let you
in, like we don't we don't have

945
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:34.960
money, like we don't have the
keys and stuff. So they said,

946
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:39.760
there's only one person that's that has
the combination, and she's willing to come

947
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.000
over here, but her parents said
that they're not allowing her to drive.

948
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:47.000
So if anybody wants to go,
you know, you guys, somebody can

949
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:50.000
go and pick her up. So
I was like, okay, you know

950
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.400
what, I need to get stuff
for me too, so let me go

951
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.719
pick her up. A long story
where she came back whipping the store.

952
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:00.840
The hordes of people. It just
something think you wouldn't ever see, but

953
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.960
you will only see in like a
movie. These lines were long, all

954
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:08.639
the way to the back. I
walked the store in the beginning, was

955
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.480
able to get a couple of stuff
put it to the side. By the

956
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.280
end of the night, this store
looked like an apocalypse, like empty shelves

957
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:20.400
everything. There's people sitting standing outside. They're arguing. They're like, come

958
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.199
on, you guys, gotta let
us in. There's still one hundred and

959
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:27.360
fifty people waiting outside and cold.
I got two hundred people inside of the

960
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.760
store, and then one of our
players couldn't close the door, so I

961
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.199
said, here, I walked over
there, closed the door. I said.

962
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.440
People are like mad, They're like, hey, man, you gotta

963
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.639
think about our children. You gotta
think about it, you know, as

964
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.159
we gotta get food too. And
I looked at him, I said,

965
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.119
look, let me tell you something. You need to relax, because you

966
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:44.719
got to think about us too.
We've been working here for like almost twelve

967
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.760
hours straight, trying to help as
much people as we can. I said,

968
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:48.360
you want me to think about your
children, I said, you got

969
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.880
to think about mine too, and
the people that I need to take care

970
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.679
of as well too. We need
to relax, calm down because this is

971
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.840
getting out of hand. You know, we gotta get these people out to

972
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:00.800
and it's probably gonna be another two
hour If I let you in, I'm

973
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:01.719
never getting out of here. I
said, that doesn't work like that.

974
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.599
So they were like, you know
what, some people are like, yeah,

975
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:06.679
guys, let's relax, let's go. And I say, they were

976
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.519
like, are you gonna open up
tomorrow? Say yeah, we'll open up

977
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:12.840
again tomorrow, but we need to
get out of here first, and and

978
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.320
and you know it was handled.
We left. But again it's those situations

979
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.159
to to drive the point of this
is that you see how even a single

980
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:29.119
ice storm or something like that can
have people, you know, lose their

981
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.960
sense of civility, you know,
they're they're they're just the dependency of it.

982
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:40.639
And now just to put into thought, imagine something really great, as

983
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:45.840
a war here in this country,
something like that happens. I mean,

984
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:47.920
those were just ice storms and a
pandemic that was you know, creative and

985
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.880
it, but you imagine something in
the scale of that. It's scary to

986
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:56.599
see that people can't think for themselves. That's right, they can't. They

987
01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:00.880
can't do things on their own because
the government take directions and run with it

988
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:05.400
without even questioning it or like you
said, using discernment. And I think

989
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:10.599
that that whole the last three years, I mean, obviously it had a

990
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.840
lot of goals completed, but I
think it's a lot of it was also

991
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.400
more conditioning for the next one because
people will I still think people ninety percent

992
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.920
will still be quick to comply.
Is that is that I've been hearing that

993
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.280
a little bit bigger. I think
I'm gonna hurt it. Is that something

994
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.719
that they're they're planning to do him
again? Oh yeah, they listen.

995
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.280
Fauci told us before in twenty seventeen, he said, during this administration,

996
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:36.480
and he said several times over the
last six weeks that next year we're going

997
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:39.760
to have another one. And next
year is the next election, so it

998
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:45.519
certainly makes sense. Wow. I
mean yeah, that's well, and that

999
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.960
if they spend that with a war
on top of it, it's going to

1000
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.559
be mayhem. Well yeah, I
mean didn't they say something like that to

1001
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:55.239
distract? I mean they did all
this during the twenty twenty and all this

1002
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.920
stuff to you know, get somebody
out of office and all the stuff.

1003
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.320
They do this purposee for a different
an angle. You know, they got

1004
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.840
something in their hand right here,
but they're holding something behind their backs.

1005
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.480
Yeah, they did one hundred years
ago. They did the same thing,

1006
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:10.239
just in reverse. They had a
world war from what nineteen fourteen to nineteen

1007
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:13.280
seventeen, and then they had a
pandemic in nineteen eighteen to you know for

1008
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.359
a couple of years. So they've
run this playbook before, just in reverse.

1009
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:20.880
Wow. I mean it's they do
say history repeats itself, right,

1010
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:26.600
Yeah, it's the semi family lineage
in charge that's just passed down generation to

1011
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.920
generation the playbook. And I was
going to say, do you believe that's

1012
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:33.319
something that that's what the you know, the occults the Freemason and stuff like

1013
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.720
they have this playbook, sure that's
scripted it out, and do you believe

1014
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:41.239
that that's something that you know,
they have with them, that they possess

1015
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:46.520
that obviously we can't get to it. But if we could get to it,

1016
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:53.600
what then it's a that's the million
dollar question for sure. It all

1017
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:57.800
starts with us just getting out,
walking away from the program and not complying.

1018
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.520
That that was the biggest thing I
screamed on other podcasts for three years.

1019
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.199
Stop complying, for goodness sakes,
stop listening to people who don't have

1020
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:09.960
any control of your life. And
it's true, because they control you everything.

1021
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.199
I mean, there's so many people
going out that you know, they

1022
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:15.680
were talking about the you know,
going to the court system and all this

1023
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:17.800
stuff. You know, some people
are you don't need a lawyer, You

1024
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.680
don't need a lawyer, open all
this stuff. You know, you can

1025
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:25.439
do this yourself because ultimately all those
people are there to serve you, you

1026
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.880
know, just like all these public
servants. But again become to a point

1027
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:30.840
where it's like they no longer serve
us. We're the ones serving them.

1028
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:35.840
That that's what they believe. Absolutely
where were their minions and you know,

1029
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:40.880
what that's not right now that I
don't know how how people can wake up

1030
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:44.800
every morning and be okay with that. Yeah, you know, supposedly when

1031
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.680
this country was founded, you were
supposed to step away from the private practice

1032
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.760
and you know, serve around or
two and you know, the senator,

1033
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.159
the state representative or whatever, and
then go back to private practice. But

1034
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.319
you see how that's just been a
manipula, aated like everything else in our

1035
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:05.720
world, and it's abused and it
seems like every four years somebody's running on

1036
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:09.840
term limits and it never happens,
and none of it does. It's just

1037
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.000
it's just empty promises over and over
again. It is because it's what the

1038
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.560
same things, right, they promise
you the same date, They debate over

1039
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:20.439
the same things or the same reasons, the same causes, and nothing ever

1040
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:25.760
gets done. And you know it, actually it gets worse, and it

1041
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.880
does. And you know, I
think someone said it in one of your

1042
01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:31.239
podcast he said, it's just like
you know, left wing right wing.

1043
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:33.920
I don't care. He's like they
need each other to flap. Anyways,

1044
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:39.000
that's right, it's the same corrupt
bird, that's for sure. I wanted

1045
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:42.239
to ask you. We got about
twenty minutes left. Had you gone down

1046
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.520
the rabbit holes before you got the
flutter Earth like the nine to eleven and

1047
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:51.439
the JFK and the nineteen sixty nine
with the Apollo missions. No, I

1048
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:57.000
actually hadn't gone down with them.
I hadn't like researched it or looked into

1049
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.000
it. But again, I think
it was just my intuitive side. Um.

1050
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.840
I obviously you know, saw it
and felt it and didn't do something.

1051
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.640
But then every now and then you
look at uh. I looked at

1052
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:11.319
YouTube videos here and there in the
years afterwards, and you know, just

1053
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.119
see certain things where there was like
you know, they're showing that there's like

1054
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:17.359
C four going off. Um,
you know, all these things happening.

1055
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:21.800
So I didn't really dive into it. Um. I wish I had,

1056
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.920
though, I think maybe that would
have helped me go down the rabbit hole

1057
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.560
a lot sooner. Yeah, And
that's that's what's really interesting to me,

1058
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.439
because I'm starting to meet people where
h flat Earth is one of their first

1059
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:35.359
rabbit holes, and I find that
really really interesting. Well, it's it's

1060
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:39.720
I mean, it's kind of like
the pillar. Oh absolutely, it's the

1061
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.720
old you know. Yeah, if
anybody ever asked me like well, why

1062
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.279
do you go with that? Why
not go with I'm like, well,

1063
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.039
because that's the pillar of it.
It's the old Age, like it's it's

1064
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:51.119
from it all started. I said, you know, you know Copernicus unless

1065
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.800
like you know it just it's the
pillar of it. Um. I was

1066
01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:00.359
in UH. I was in fourth
grade. Actually, I remember Miserable Eagles

1067
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:05.319
class. And I was thinking about
this the other day too, because I

1068
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:10.399
was like, you know when that
happened. I remember I was in in

1069
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.479
my UH, I was in our
apartment and my dad turned on TV.

1070
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.760
So I first he was like whoa
when I walked in there, and I'm

1071
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.720
like, what's going on? And
you know, he's showed us. And

1072
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:24.239
sure enough when I go to get
dropped off in school, Um, they

1073
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:30.840
they they had um TVs everywhere like
they wanted to show you this. You

1074
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:33.199
know, I think about this also. It's like they they they they sat

1075
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.680
you there and they there was no
learning, There's no you know, go

1076
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:39.319
back to math quiz, go back
to whatever. No, just sit here

1077
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.640
and watch this. You know again, it's it's no choice, you you

1078
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:45.359
they they didn't give me any choice
whether I wanted to see this or not.

1079
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:49.000
You know, it's kind of like
again like the preconditioning, you know,

1080
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.840
the indoctrination, like see this,
so that you know what's going on,

1081
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:59.119
what we want you to know.
So it's just something again that when

1082
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:02.680
I was young, you don't think
about those things because obviously you're they're taking

1083
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:08.000
advantage of that that you're young,
you know, fresh mind, we can

1084
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.039
manipulate it however you want to.
But as you get older, all these

1085
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:14.239
things come back and you're just like, you know, now it makes sense

1086
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.800
absolutely. I mean, your mind
is you know, you're basically handed over

1087
01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:23.680
to the state from the time you're
you're six until you're almost eighteen, if

1088
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:28.159
not eighteen, I mean you're talking
twelve, and if you go to college

1089
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:32.119
up to sixteen years of in a
doctrination, and then you get so busy

1090
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:35.439
with your family and work, you
don't you know, for some people,

1091
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:39.199
they don't get the chance to even
go down the rabbit hole to the thirties,

1092
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.000
forties, fifties or how old it
is. And obviously in some cases,

1093
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:46.119
the older you are, the more
difficult it is to deep program yourself,

1094
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:51.920
and the old saying it's harder to
tell somebody that they've been lied to

1095
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:55.920
than to say hey, you know
then just to straight out lie to them,

1096
01:13:55.960 --> 01:13:59.119
and that is a big part of
what these guys do to us.

1097
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.159
You know, I'll make this rapp
it. I won't take too long with

1098
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:05.840
it because I know we haven't limited
time, but I will say that my

1099
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:12.119
my biggest challenge has been my father. Like I said, he's a Vietnam

1100
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:17.159
veteran. He was born in forty
nine, and he's been the biggest challenge.

1101
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:20.279
When I I think it was about
maybe a few months back, probably

1102
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.720
three four months, I try to
talk with him. I had tried to

1103
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.840
sit down with him and try to
get to him, and oh boy,

1104
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.319
good luck trying to talk to a
seventy year old man that's had seventy years

1105
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:35.680
in the doctrinational all this stuff that
he's you know, he for everything.

1106
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:40.760
He was just like no, no, no, that looks Air Force and

1107
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:43.199
ass they're not gonna lie to them. They do all this stuff. This

1108
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:45.760
is what they go to school.
Like. It was hard, but I

1109
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:47.760
had a good couple of little gut
punches in there, you know. I

1110
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.239
want to say that was kind of
like he kind of like stumble a little

1111
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:54.520
bit and was just kind of like
quiet and then well, you know,

1112
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:57.159
at the end, he was just
like, well, what does all this

1113
01:14:57.199 --> 01:15:00.720
mean anyways to you? What does
it matter if it's if it's true or

1114
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:04.600
not, you know, whether the
earth is flat or around. And I

1115
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.560
remember just sitting there and telling him, I said, you know what,

1116
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:14.520
bad I said, it matters to
me because it's part of my history.

1117
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:16.800
You know, you had your history, you had a role to play in

1118
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:20.720
this life. And we're coming to
a point in our lives. You know,

1119
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:25.279
as we go into a new generation, new generation, we have different

1120
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:30.399
roles. So it matters a lot
to me because if it is true,

1121
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.840
if it isn't true, you know
what, guess what I want to find

1122
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:40.479
out why I want to have the
free will? You know, I think

1123
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:45.000
that's what ultimately God's gift to us
was that, you know, it's free

1124
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:51.359
will. He didn't he didn't make
didn't he didn't make us. He didn't

1125
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.439
he didn't make our author to impose
on us. You know, they're free

1126
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:58.560
willing us to make us choose,
you know what they're telling us to do.

1127
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.319
We're in this for a free will
choice to choose what we wanted to

1128
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:06.760
believe, whether we're right or wrong. You know, that's our life.

1129
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:09.560
And when I told him that,
he was just kind of like, you

1130
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:11.960
know what, okay, And I
said, so, do you believe it

1131
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.720
now or no? He's like,
I'm not too sure yet, you know,

1132
01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:16.960
but he's like, I appreciate the
way that that you're thinking, and

1133
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:20.479
you know, um, until I
see it, I see it, you

1134
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:24.199
know, I'll believe it then.
And I'm like, okay, fair enough.

1135
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:30.159
Is he completely on board with the
moon landings and everything? Um?

1136
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:35.199
I guess, he says in this
time because I guess what forty nine he

1137
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:42.079
would have been twenty, right,
Yeah, so he I remember I asked

1138
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:43.960
him and I was like, how
how was it? Like, you know

1139
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:45.119
what do you remember it? He's
like, well, you know, it

1140
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:47.680
was nice. Everybody was kind of
gathered up. They talked about it,

1141
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.680
but you know, I didn't really
think much of it. He was like

1142
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:54.840
I just believed him. And I'm
like, just like that, and he

1143
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.560
was just like, yeah, I
just I just blew. I'm like,

1144
01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.439
but now that I'm telling you this
and I'm showing this all this, you

1145
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:01.920
don't BELI He's like, well,
maybe, you know, so there was

1146
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:06.720
a part that just it's never too
late, you know, But it does

1147
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:11.000
get a lot harder, indeed,
so older than they are, you know,

1148
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:13.920
because it's like you said, think
about all that pre program all that

1149
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.479
stuff. It's harder to deprogram.
Uh you know computer that has you know,

1150
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:19.520
eight percent of it's RAM and all
this stuff, you know, fed

1151
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:23.560
up and you try to clear it
a post to something that's only twenty percent,

1152
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:28.439
it's a lot easier, you know. So well, he's yeah,

1153
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:31.720
he's he's my dad, like I
said, and you know, he respects

1154
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.439
my views, and like I said, I respect everybody's views, absolutely anybody.

1155
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:40.039
And my mom's the same way.
She's uh, she'll be seventy six

1156
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.760
this year, and uh you you
and your dad's story and my me and

1157
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.359
my mom's story. They mirror each
other. And it's the same with respect

1158
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.960
you. I'm not gonna force my
mom to believe, you know, in

1159
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:54.760
a certain way. But it's for
me. The older I get, the

1160
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.079
more almost urgent it becomes because I
want to you know, I want to

1161
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.279
share the knowledge, and I just
want the truth. I don't care what

1162
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:06.399
the truth is in the end,
it's just it's just very obvious that we've

1163
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:11.000
been lied to for a very long
long time. So if you're in a

1164
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.880
relationship with someone and they continue to
lie with them, to lie to you,

1165
01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.399
You're not going to continue to believe
that person. So why do we

1166
01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:25.880
do the same with government? And
I understand that. I mean, listen,

1167
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.279
government goes all the way back to
Nimrod, you know, the first

1168
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:32.359
you know, some people call Nimrod
the first government in the world with a

1169
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:36.640
Tower of Babbel and everything else.
And since then it's been a power struggle

1170
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:41.760
of the elite to you know,
stay illuminated at the top, keep the

1171
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.520
lower class dumb and poor and fighting
amongst themselves. And they've done a heck

1172
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.600
of a job doing that. Oh
yeah, wells definitely. I mean we

1173
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:54.000
probably could have sat here and talked
about so much, so much things you're

1174
01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:56.279
in the Tower of Babel and all
the stuff to do. I use it

1175
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.560
as well too, and I try
to, you know, give them a

1176
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:00.840
little bit enlightening too to their thoughts
and just be like, you know,

1177
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.079
this is a fight that you know, it's been going on for for a

1178
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:08.560
long time, and uh, I
feel they know the truth and they know

1179
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:13.399
that some of us know the truth. But you know, they have control

1180
01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:16.560
over the masses right now, and
we hope that soon, you know,

1181
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:20.520
we get the truth. That's all
I think we all want. If if

1182
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.680
you sat down with a stranger at
a restaurant and you were able to lay

1183
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:29.159
down, if you could give them
three flat Earth fects, what are your

1184
01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:32.159
top three that you would lay down
to try to get somebody to at least

1185
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:38.720
consider a flatterth oh Man Top three? One one, I mean I would

1186
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:43.640
talk about you know, the sun, the local sun, you know the

1187
01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:46.479
rays. It's just something that just
I try to tell them, like how

1188
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:51.680
it's something that's ninety three million miles
away, you know casting you know light

1189
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:56.159
rais that are you know at an
angle so close? You know. That's

1190
01:19:56.239 --> 01:20:01.119
that's one thing that that I would
uh talk about. Um, you know.

1191
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:04.399
The other thing is uh. Number
two would be uh, you know

1192
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:10.199
the gravity, hoax, buoyancy and
density. That's all it is, you

1193
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:17.119
know. Um. And I believe
a third one would probably be you know,

1194
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.279
probably with the with the NASA with
the NASA Moon moon landing. You

1195
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:27.000
know those those videos just there was
a guy talking about saying that he saw

1196
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.000
he remembers as a child. They
would show these videos. It's kind of

1197
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:33.840
like scattered, sort of blurry movies
where it was like a voice narrating saying,

1198
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.479
you know, here we see venus, you know, and in the

1199
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:41.039
background or you know, but it's
showing this video from like so far away,

1200
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:44.600
like it's like, you know,
out there and it's telecasting this vision

1201
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:47.840
and then here is our blue marble
Earth and there's a moon. But then

1202
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.159
they're like, you know, I
would help them see like how does that

1203
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:57.319
technology exist back then but doesn't exist
now? You know? Yep? I

1204
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:01.479
think those you know, they're old
bangers for sure, and that would certainly

1205
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:04.239
get their attention. And I'm glad
you brought that up because this is a

1206
01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:10.760
second person an email I'm gonna bring
up in our conversation. So this young

1207
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:15.800
lady Kat from Massachusetts. She's actually
been a longtime friend of our other podcast,

1208
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:19.840
but she emailed the other day and
she made a great point because with

1209
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:28.079
gravity we talk about buoyancy and density, but to her it never really completely

1210
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:30.800
checked the box. But she said, what was the big question that determined

1211
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:35.840
up or down? And she said
in her research she came across electrostatic force,

1212
01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:41.520
which is governed by a law,
which is not necessarily a theory.

1213
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.119
So that's something that she says every
source I've looked at says the ground has

1214
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:51.600
a net negative charge, so anything
that is even slightly positively charged will be

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attracted to it according to the laws
of magotism. I just wanted to drop

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01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.880
that in there, and this is
one of the emails I'll be bringing up

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01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:01.199
in a podcast in the coming days. But it's a it's a great,

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01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:09.159
great little nugget there. Okay,
but yeah, I'm the same way.

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01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.439
Sorry, No, I'm sorry.
It just for some reason, it just

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01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:15.199
kind of cut off right now.
UM, I wasn't able to hear you

1221
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:17.439
fully. Um, I know you
were talking about um, I think it

1222
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.199
was from Massachusetts, and then it
just kind of cut off. Oh,

1223
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:24.279
I'm sorry, it's it's yeah.
For some reason, I don't know why.

1224
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:26.600
It's just I didn't catch the whole
part. In the next line it

1225
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:29.479
came back, I was like,
whoa, it's probably the dang NSA messing

1226
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:31.640
with me again. Um. She
was saying one of her one of her

1227
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:38.279
biggest stumbling blocks when she was researching
the flat Earth was gravity and it was

1228
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.399
bogus. But she also said that, uh, while like we say,

1229
01:22:42.439 --> 01:22:45.800
density and buoyancy answers a lot of
the questions. For her, it didn't

1230
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:51.119
completely check the box. So she
was kind of to research what determines up

1231
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:58.079
and down and she just discovered electrostatic
force, which she says is governed by

1232
01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:01.319
law, not just a theory.
And she says every source that she's looked

1233
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:06.479
at says the ground has a negative
charge, so anything that is even slightly

1234
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:12.000
positive charged will be attracted to it
according to the laws of magnetism. She

1235
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:15.039
goes on, I'll bring this up
in an upcoming podcast when I do the

1236
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:20.319
listener emails. But that's a pretty
good information. No, it sounds very

1237
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:24.319
interesting. Definitely, we'll be looking
forward to that. Yeah, for sure.

1238
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:30.479
So this is You've been a tremendous
guest, bringing lots of information,

1239
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:34.159
and I wanted to kind of give
you the last few minutes with any closing

1240
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:38.680
thoughts, but I should ask you
first, was there anything that we that

1241
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:43.239
you wanted to cover that we hadn't
touched on? No? No, Honestly,

1242
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.119
like I said once, anybody that's
been down this rabbit hole for I

1243
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:49.399
think maybe as long as I have, for probably even less, doesn't matter.

1244
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:51.560
It's just there's so much to talk
about it. We could go on

1245
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:56.520
for hours and hours, and you
know, I'm, like I said,

1246
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.560
I'm truly honored. Thank you so
much, George for you know, answer

1247
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.560
my email having me on here.
Um, you know it's anybody else out

1248
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:06.319
there. Uh, you know,
this is something great to be a part

1249
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:11.520
of. And uh, never stop
doing your research, you know, UM,

1250
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:15.359
have that initiative, you know,
make that free real choice to to

1251
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.520
think and be a critical thinker and
then and you know, seek the truth.

1252
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:23.319
You know, don't don't just listen
to what they they want to tell

1253
01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:26.560
you. But Julie, it's an
honor George, thank you for having me

1254
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.479
on here. Well, it's been
a pleasure having you. And uh,

1255
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.720
if you all, if Kevin's message
resonates and you want to reach out and

1256
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:38.319
uh have a chat with him,
I will have Kevin's email. Um it's

1257
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:43.159
Kevin dot Rodriguez five at g dot
Austin, CC dot edu. But don't

1258
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:45.479
worry about trying to write that down. It will be in the show descriptions,

1259
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.520
so you can copy and paste it
and send an email and reach out

1260
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:53.399
to Kevin and you can pick his
brain about some of the subjects that we

1261
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.119
talked about tonight, or maybe you
might catch him in the chat room or

1262
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:00.840
in the forum on the Flat Earth
files dot com. It's been a really

1263
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:02.920
great episode I hope to hear.
I hope we can do this again in

1264
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:06.159
the future. By the way,
I should mention Kevin, I've been I've

1265
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:11.800
mentioned this to a a few other
folks we've had on the program. I'm

1266
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:15.800
looking to do a round table in
the very near future to have a few

1267
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.039
folks on and we can just kind
of all go about and have some really

1268
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:21.359
good discussions. So I'll be reaching
out to a few of the folks that

1269
01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:25.720
we've had on in the past here
in the very near future. It's something

1270
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:28.840
I was hoping to get done by
now, but life happens. This is

1271
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:32.720
a pretty busy time of year for
us. So thank you so much for

1272
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.399
being a part of this podcast.
Thank you to all the listeners, to

1273
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:41.960
all the emailers. Keep dropping those
breadcrumbs, folks. If you wake someone

1274
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:45.840
up, they'll wake someone up,
and it's you know, it will continue

1275
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:49.640
this great awakening which we are really
seeing now. For Kevin, I'm George.

1276
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:53.359
I hope everybody has a great week. God bless you all, and

1277
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.199
until next time, my friends,
we will see you