WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.439 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to 2 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:29.399 nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. All right, let's get it started 3 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.880 hour number two here on a Monday afternoon. Hopefully everybody had themselves a good 4 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.799 weekend, beautiful, beautiful weekend. I feel like it was like the official 5 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:41.520 kickoff of the spring season. Warm weather, a lot going on opening day 6 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:46.719 for a lot of little league baseball leagues out there, and Derby will be 7 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:51.240 here before you know it, and we will we'll discus. You know. 8 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.600 Somebody on the text line earlier asked me if you know we're going to get 9 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.880 into football with the spring game coming up on Friday. Look, no Bay 10 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.319 is a bigger fan of Jeff Brohm than me, And I'm excited for the 11 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.920 spring game, looking forward to seeing not only some of the great players they 12 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.280 got back from last year's ten win season, but also some of these guys 13 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.439 in the portal that have arrived and been here for a few months now. 14 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.439 Like it's exciting, but like I can't preview a spring game and make it 15 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.719 anything other than, you know, a waste of time. And it's not 16 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.159 because you know, I'm not excited and I'm not familiar with the personnel, 17 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.040 but like it's a scrimmage where you play your own play. I mean, 18 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:30.879 it's you know, to me, it's a big event. And I used 19 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.159 to be very much anti spring game, not like I wanted him to cancel 20 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:40.879 it, but before Sadderfield got here, you know, it just became you 21 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:46.000 know, in the spring usually hit a little bit of a wall. In 22 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.640 fact, in a previous world, you didn't have the portal and nil and 23 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.400 that kind of stuff that could really keep you talking college sports year round on 24 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.439 platforms like this for a lot more of the calendar year. So then you'd 25 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.040 shift just bring football, because you know, we're not a pro market, 26 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:05.920 you know, when college basketball ends. You know, I know there are 27 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:07.759 some really some people that really like the NBA, but it's it's not a 28 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:10.879 big talking point around here, so you shift to bring football. And I 29 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.599 remember thinking like, there's I don't know if there's any way possible to like 30 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:21.400 talk spring football through March and April and like make it entertaining and compelling conversations. 31 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.599 So I'm excited for it, But just to give you heads up, 32 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.800 like other than mentioning it's coming up on Friday, other than mentioning you know 33 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.319 some names in the portal which we're gonna get to here soon, because Louislle 34 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.639 will lose some guys to the portal tomorrow when it opens in football, and 35 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:37.879 I'm sure they're gonna have some guys in the mix that are I mean, 36 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:40.360 look, I'm not gonna accuse anybody of doing anything they're not supposed to do, 37 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:44.360 but there's a lot of guys that enter the portal that you know, 38 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:46.360 they already know where they're going. And it wouldn't shock me if Louis was 39 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.560 one of many schools that already has a pretty good idea of some guys that 40 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.840 are gonna be available that they're gonna go get. I mean, John, 41 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:59.400 you're a broadcaster like myself. How would you, I mean, you got 42 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.840 any advice if I wanted to make spring the spring football game like a talking 43 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.120 point, like I just you know, as much a it's not a game, 44 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:08.919 Yeah, it's an event. I like, I've always liked the idea. 45 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:10.800 I think you threw this out last year, and maybe you threw it 46 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:15.960 out years ago. Is play an FCS opponent in an exhibition game instead of 47 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.439 the spring game. Yeah, I mean that would be and you you know, 48 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.680 I don't know, maybe you wouldn't be able to give them the financial 49 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:27.120 compensation that they would get for coming in in September, but you know what, 50 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.520 that's a gift to them anyway. They shouldn't be you know, beggars 51 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:30.719 can't be choosers. And I hate to sound rude, but like literally, 52 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:38.840 that's what that game is. So anyways, like Bobby Patrino and Charlie Strong, 53 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:42.919 they had spring games and it was cool, especially whenever there was momentum, 54 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.520 right, but the game itself wasn't a real talking point. Well, 55 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.080 then Sadderfield got rid of the spring game. I don't know if you guys 56 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:52.719 remember that or not, because he does his spring football in like February, 57 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.159 and it just led to where they didn't have one an app state and by 58 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.120 the time he wanted to pla play one if they were going to play one 59 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:02.960 here, which he never wanted to. But if he if he was going 60 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.199 to play one here on his same timeline, it would have taken place in 61 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.240 like the end, like it would have taken place like when it's cold outside. 62 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:14.240 So I remember I remember initially thinking, Okay, I don't you know, 63 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:15.759 here's one thing I'll defend saturfillm on. I don't really think the spring 64 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.279 game is that important because it's really not about like the team's going to get 65 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.040 better. But you know, fans don't really get to learn anything about their 66 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.639 team anyway. And here's where I was totally wrong. It's a marketing event. 67 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:30.519 It is to continue to build hype and excitement and momentum for your program 68 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.079 when you have you know, however many months you have where you go without 69 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.639 a game. So it's not I mean some maybe some fans can learn about 70 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.319 their team during a spring game. I mean you certainly can't hear. There's 71 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.720 great updates that you get from spring practice from folks like Jody Demling, those 72 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.000 guys, uh, Matt mcgavick. So there's good info to be had. 73 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:51.439 It's just not necessarily what I would you know, consider to be suitable for, 74 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:57.560 you know, a drive time talk radio show. But it's it's an 75 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.560 event, like if you go out there, you have a good time, 76 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:04.120 the beer are flowing, maybe you're doing some tailgating. You know, the 77 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:09.639 weather's perfect. You know you see you see your new quarterback Tyler Shuck out 78 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:14.560 there throwing touchdowns. Uh you see, I mean I doubt that they'll let 79 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.560 I doubt they let Ashton Galotti get loose and tackle somebody in the backfield because 80 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.680 you know that could really hurt somebody because he's that good. But that's gonna 81 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.439 get your juices flow into where you just look at that in That was fun, 82 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.639 that was exciting, and you know what you tie it to is Louisville 83 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.720 football. So it's super important to have that just to get people, you 84 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.759 know, just to give them that off season event check in if whatever you 85 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.720 want to call it to, you know, remind them, Okay, here 86 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.920 we go, like we're coming off a ten win season, no reason we 87 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.839 can't find ourselves back in the AEC Championship game next year. So love the 88 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.519 spring game, looking forward to it. But I just don't, you know, 89 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:49.920 it's a me thing. I don't really know how to say. Nick, 90 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:54.079 Yeah, I made a future's bet. Okay, I picked Louisville to 91 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.480 win the a SEC next year, did you I did. I hope I'm 92 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.800 not putting some curse on them by doing so, but I did it. 93 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.759 Man. I hope Jeff's not listening, because if he is, you know, 94 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.360 he's thinking I'm not practicing hard enough. I can't let the company man 95 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.639 down. I got to deliver for him. I like that. I'm doing 96 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.519 it too. I'm gonna do too. I'm not not a futures guy, 97 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:15.399 but I'll do it. I've never done futures until I was like, we're 98 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.639 at the college basketball offseason. I've got a little bit left in the account, 99 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.439 not enough to really withdraw. Let's make a couple of futures. Best, 100 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:25.000 let's one of them. Let's do it. Love it all right. 101 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.600 So, as you could expect, the vast majority of our first hour was 102 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:34.319 was discussing the basketball situations for both sides of the rivalry. Started the show 103 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.639 by saying, we're kind of picking up where we left off on Friday, 104 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:45.480 because now we have officially started our first week here with both programs. I 105 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.000 guess officially, you know, in this new era, Pat Kelsey's been on 106 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.199 the job for the last couple of weeks. It'll be I guess three weeks 107 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.560 coming up later on. In fact, it'll be three weeks to the day 108 00:06:54.879 --> 00:07:00.680 on Thursday, whenever he hosts a five star Top ten recruit, which there's 109 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.120 already a couple of people UK fans claiming, well, Nigga thought freshmen didn't 110 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:09.879 even matter anymore. I never said that. But you know, you're always 111 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:15.000 going to see college basketball staffs recruit freshmen. That's always going to happen. 112 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.199 Now, will they shift more priority towards players in the portal? Sure, 113 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:25.040 it's happening as we speak. Everywhere's doing that. I wouldn't be surprised if 114 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.839 there's some programs out there that still like to live in a world where they're 115 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.399 going to keep everybody and every player they bring in as a freshman's going to 116 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.079 develop. But that's just not the reality. But like, if you're gonna 117 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:40.439 get in with a freshman to join me, if you're going to pursue one, 118 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.800 I mean, just consider Louis a situation. I mean, they've got 119 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:48.600 ten scholarships to fill. Pat Kelsey's not bringing any freshmen. He was recruiting 120 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.920 at Winthrop with him, understandably, so Kenny Payne and his staff didn't recruit 121 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.600 a damn person, so they got scholarships to give. And oh, by 122 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.519 the way, a top ten player is now available because John Calipari left Kentucky 123 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:07.560 for Arkansas. So Jaden Acquaintance, how about that? That's right? That 124 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.959 time, Jaden Quaintance, he is a top ten player. He's only sixteen 125 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.720 years old. Five star, he's a six to non center, just a 126 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.120 really good athlete. I'm not going to give you some fake analysis like I've 127 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.199 been in the film room breaking his game down. But you know what I 128 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.399 did. I saw highlights and I happen to trust those that you know cover 129 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.079 this world of recruiting, and he is a consensus top ten player. You 130 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.600 never know anybody's going to work out and develop. Trust me, There's been 131 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.480 many examples of dudes who were superstars at the college level that didn't have the 132 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.000 credentials that this young man has. There's plenty of guys that have had similar 133 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.759 credentials and they stunk. So you just never know. But man, I 134 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:50.639 just think Pat Kelsey being able to within just days of quaintance asking to be 135 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.679 let out of his letter of intent. And by the way, I'm pretty 136 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.080 sure when he considered let me just double check here, Yeah, when he 137 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.399 signed with Kentucky, I mean it was all Nike school It was Kentucky, 138 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.200 Florida, Ohio State, in Missouri, and then at the end it came 139 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.200 down to Missouri and Kentucky. So those are all Nike schools. Well, 140 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.600 Louisville's got the bag and they've got a connection here. And that's not to 141 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.559 say that like if if this kid somehow ended up committing to Louisville, I 142 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.960 mean, he'd be huge. Talk about a first big time slam dunk for 143 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.480 Pat Kelsey, because not only would we be getting one of the highest rated 144 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.679 players to ever commit to Louisville, he would also be taking a guy that 145 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.320 Kentucky still wants, right, like they're gonna I don't even know what direction 146 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.159 Mark Pope's gonna go in when he builds his roster, right because I don't 147 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.440 know enough about him as far as you know how many I mean, I 148 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.840 don't even how many roster spots he's gonna have, Like how many players are 149 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.519 Kentucky on Kentucky's roster are left? I mean, they're gonna bring it. 150 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.200 Reed Shepherd hadn't at the portal, but read Sheperd's probably can go to the 151 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:50.519 NBA. Bradshaw's going to Ohio State, Wagner. So again, I don't 152 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.440 know where Mark Pope would direction he's gonna go. But like any let's put 153 00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:01.639 it this way, there's not a single not a single program in the country 154 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.000 that would not take this kid that wouldn't want him. So if Pat Kelsey's 155 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.639 able to somehow get it done, that'd be amazing. I'm not even sure 156 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.919 if Kentucky's believed to be in the mix here. I mean, some people 157 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:16.000 think he's going to follow Caliperry to Arkansas, which wouldn't shock me at all. 158 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.440 I'm not predicting that Quaintance ends up at Louisville, but the first visit 159 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:26.200 he's taken after his decommitment is to the University of Louisville. And I think 160 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.200 this day and age with the transfers, you want to be the first visit. 161 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.039 Doesn't mean you're gonna, you know, get everybody who visits first, 162 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.360 but you get your first chance to sell now some some say you want to 163 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.799 get the last visit. I guess it really just depends on the type of 164 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.240 kid. But I think if you're a high school kid, you got years 165 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.639 to take visits, right, you're being recruited for no joke years. If 166 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.039 you're a transfer, you're not. You know, the clock's not taken to 167 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.320 where you have to make a decision, you know, within forty eight hours 168 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.240 after you hit the portal. But it's much more of a sped up process. 169 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.039 So with that said, like maybe this kid will reset and completely start 170 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.200 over and hear from everybody, which he probably will. He's a top ten 171 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.440 player, meaning he's going to see who's got the most money. But this 172 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.320 would be be huge for Pat Kelsey and we'll see what happens. He's gonna 173 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.360 visit on Thursday. And as far as who else is going to be in 174 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.519 the mix for him, I don't know. Maybe it ends up being Arkansas, 175 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.320 maybe he goes in place for Cal, which again that was who he's 176 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:31.639 committed to coming out of a you know, prior to Cal leaving. So 177 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.039 the connection here again, I'm not bringing this up to say that Pat Kelsey 178 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.200 wouldn't deserve credit, but I would say, you know, maybe just maybe 179 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.080 without this potential connection, maybe the visit doesn't even get scheduled. But that 180 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.039 is the assistant one of the assistant coaches that was announced last week on the 181 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.720 staff. He is a he was a He was at Charleston for I believe 182 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.519 one year. His name is Thomas carr Well. He was the coach at 183 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.720 Word of God Academy and the Carolinas there prior to jumping to Charleston. Well 184 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.000 that's where Quaintan's place. He plays for Werf Got Academy in Raleigh. So 185 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.559 I mean that's big news, no doubt. All right, So speaking of 186 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.840 portal visits all that kind of stuff. For those who don't know Omar Balle 187 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.200 is that? How is that? How? I think it's that a Hoosiers 188 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.360 are saying it. I don't I've heard it said different ways. I would 189 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.679 probably say Omar Ballow for now, just because he has the U in his 190 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:24.960 first name. But I can see why you would say Omar Balow or any 191 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.720 other name. Honestly, I'm trying to find like a video clip here of 192 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.639 like a highlight where the announcers, will, you know, say his name 193 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.799 and we can you know, who knows. Maybe they're doing it wrong too, 194 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:41.320 but let's see what we got here. You can hear the action Ballow. 195 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.320 We'll just call him Ballow Ballow and it's big baller Ballow. Yeah, 196 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.279 big baller Ballow. So he averaged thirteen points, ten rebounds, shot at 197 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.480 sixty something percent from the field. Really good player. He's visiting Indiana right 198 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.960 now. He's the number one player in the portal according to ESPN, and 199 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:01.559 his next visit is scheduled to be liewill tomorrow he will visit he's visiting Indiana 200 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.360 from I guess, uh, from yesterday to tomorrow. Yeah, and then 201 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.919 he's supposed to make the trip south to Louisville and uh. The momentum is 202 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.840 clearly in the in the hands of the Hoosiers. According to those that cover 203 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.200 recruiting. Did you see who else you guys are recruiting in the portal we 204 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.840 had? We have a ton of guys. Ryan Conwell, Indiana State, 205 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.320 Connor Hickman from Bradley. We just got we'll talk about a local name. 206 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.360 Who is it? Do Thierro? That was? Do you think about game? 207 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.960 I don't really have much thoughts on him. I mean, if he 208 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.240 wants to flirt with Indiana, I'd take him. Yeah, I think for 209 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.159 where you guys, you know, really want to I want to polish things 210 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.960 up at I don't think he's a good player, you know, good role 211 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.679 guy. And maybe he ends up being a really good player, but I 212 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.960 would I'd be shocked if he doesn't follow Cal to Arkansas. But yeah, 213 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.279 apparently Indiana is is in on him, all right, so I think that's 214 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.200 probably you know, we'll get into some of the other names, but this 215 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.279 is something I wanted to to get to before I forget about it. So 216 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:01.000 one of the players visiting Louisville later this week is a young man by the 217 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.120 name of Ali Khalifa from BYU. Have you followed this at all, John, 218 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.919 No, sir, okay. So look, I'm not one for conspiracy 219 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:16.240 theories, and I don't have any clue what's true and what's not. But 220 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:22.399 this smells. The smells like a lob demark Pope to make it look as 221 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:30.679 if he is gonna get an early w over Pat Kelsey because you know this 222 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:35.559 dude, Ali Khalifa. He's down to Kentucky Louisville in a return to BYU. 223 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.080 So if he's visiting and like that's real, then I guess there is 224 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:46.960 some interest. But the guy is six' eleven on the half year side, 225 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.039 two hundred and seventy pounds. He's from Egypt. I mean, his 226 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:56.000 his numbers are not good five point seven points, three point seven rebounds, 227 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:01.919 four point four assists per game ross, nineteen minutes per game, in fact, 228 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.720 less than nineteen minutes or less than twenty minutes per game. But he 229 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:13.120 I mean, I'm not kidding you. This might in fact be the insanest 230 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.039 stat line I've ever seen from a seven foot big man. Five points, 231 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.759 three rebounds, four assists in nineteen minutes a game. But he shot thirty 232 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.159 eight percent from the field. If you're a big guy, you're shooting thirty 233 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.519 eight percent from the field. I mean, can you not make a layup 234 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:35.600 if you're not dunking the ball? Apparently he doesn't shoot it well from three, 235 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:37.039 but like he made thirty percent of them as a big guy. So 236 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.200 just a very odd stat line for this guy. Who again, if you 237 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.799 only a average five and three for Pope in twenty minutes a game. I 238 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.360 mean, by the way, this isn't like a young guy that you're about 239 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:52.080 to see explode. He's been playing college basketball for I believe this will be 240 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.799 his fifth year. So I don't know why Mark Popen won him. Maybe 241 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.240 he just wants a role guy. But like you would think Mark Pope would 242 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.759 understand that at Kentucky, like you need to go get really really good players. 243 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:04.399 Everybody needs a role guy. But like you know, the fact that 244 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.480 he could take up a spot in the portal and maybe Nile resources just seems 245 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.960 odd for Kentucky. But it also seems odd for Louisville, Like Louisville needs 246 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.200 depth, So maybe that could be their play here. But like if we 247 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:19.480 got to really, you know, sacrifice some of the bag, why would 248 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:27.240 we go after this guy? So the scenario here where Louisville's really on him 249 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:32.279 and really wants him just doesn't make any sense to me. Now, maybe 250 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.679 they did, in fact talk and they set up a visit, and now 251 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:41.759 it's just positioned to where he's clearly gonna follow Pope to Kentucky. Like, 252 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.240 to me, it's stupid that like that would even be a thing. But 253 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:52.519 then again, the pettiness of this rivalry has us doing a lot of stupid 254 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.240 stuff, right, And I'll tell you what though, not that he would 255 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.159 choose Louisville over Kentucky, but if he did, I mean, that would 256 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.879 be probably infuriating to Kentucky fans. You can't even bring your own player. 257 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.319 It would Entucky, I think it would, but it wouldn't. Like the 258 00:17:03.359 --> 00:17:07.119 optics of it would be like what the hell, But the other side of 259 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:11.519 it would be like we can live without this guy at by us five points 260 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.480 in three re I mean, how are you seven foot tall and you shoot 261 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.079 thirty eight percent from the floor. That's insane to me, Like, I 262 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.359 don't even understand how that happens. So you know, I'm not one for 263 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.480 conspiracy theories. I'm just not. But I will say this like that, 264 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:33.599 just that just smelled funny because I've not I mean, I'm looking here at 265 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.519 twenty four seven Sports Jody Dimmling, who is as connected as anybody when it 266 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.640 comes to reporting on these kind of things, transfers, recruiting, that kind 267 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.759 of stuff. You know, if he's got him listed at his visit, 268 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.440 you know, I would imagine that if like this visit is not really even 269 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.920 going to happen, it's just a it's just a a like a stunt to 270 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.559 make it look like they're in the mix so he can then go to Kentucky 271 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:53.079 and act like Louisville missed out on a player. I kind of feel like 272 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.359 Jody would know that. But then again, this is the wild wild West 273 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:57.279 when it comes to recruiting in the portal. Like you know, I mean, 274 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.680 you don't really know who's prioritizing anybody, right, Like I learned this 275 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.000 during Max time. You know, they were in on some players that they 276 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.079 just called to like talk to, and you know, kick the tires essentially, 277 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:17.359 right, and that turns into such and such player tells me he's hearing 278 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.119 from thirty schools. Those thirty schools are not all offering that kid, but 279 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.279 like there's not there's just so much gray area as far as what what which 280 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.759 players are or you know, I guess you know, when they list their 281 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.799 top four or whatever, I assume that's their top four. So I guess 282 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.400 you have a little bit of transparency as far as the way they're looking at 283 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.599 their options. But I mean, I just would be it would be a 284 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.400 really avoidable l that you have to take if this kid like visits Louisville and 285 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.920 like Loo because again, one, why would you want him not to say 286 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:49.559 he you know, because you need bodies. But I feel like there's there's 287 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:56.359 enough players in the poral right now, and Louisville is clearly involved in talking 288 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:57.559 to many many of them to where I just don't feel like this guy would 289 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:02.400 be a high priority. But could it be set up as the first easy 290 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.079 win for Pope? Your level headed John, you're mature like, is that 291 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:08.680 it's an easy win for Pope, But like, who even thinks to put 292 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.559 that in motion? Right? Like just petty people. I guess, I 293 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.319 guess. I mean again, I agree with you. I think you have 294 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.200 to have role players, and it may seem weird to make it a priority, 295 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.480 but you still got to fill the roles. Put it this way. 296 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.599 This guy hit the portal, I believe the day that Mark Pope left BYU, 297 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:32.920 and his numbers are like, are not impressive, and you probably assume 298 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.039 that he's going to go lower or he may follow Pope to be a role 299 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:37.720 player because he likes being a role player for Pope. Like, if you're 300 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.640 Kelsey, why would you even want to get involved? And here's my answer. 301 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.200 I don't think that they're involved with this guy. They may have called 302 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.440 him or something, but I just don't. Look. I know what I 303 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.480 would sound like if this guy averaged twenty one points a game last year, 304 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.000 and you know a different story. This guy's not even any good, it 305 00:19:55.039 --> 00:20:00.799 appears again his numbers are insanely just they make no sense. All right, 306 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:02.680 quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling 307 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.319 along again at his coffee and company. We are feel but Thorias, I'm 308 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.000 not sure why I'm talking so fast right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety 309 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:15.599 No surprise There's been many asking if Louisville will go after DJ Wagner, who 310 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.640 has entered the portal. And I mean, I'm not going to say the 311 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:23.240 guy so bad at basketball, Louisville like better not even you know, pursue 312 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.200 him at all. But to me, I just you know, I mean, 313 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.720 in his one year at Kentucky, he was a fine player, but 314 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:40.359 he wasn't great elite by any means. He was pretty good. And there's 315 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.119 guys in the portal that have played more basketball, more experience, a little 316 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.759 more dynamic than DJ that I would I mean, I would rather than go 317 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.599 after a proven transfer that's put up some good numbers for a few years in 318 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:57.119 college than DJ Wagner. It's no disrespect to DJ, but I tried not 319 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:03.599 to sound like such a hater like during his season, because you know, 320 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:08.640 he wasn't It's not like he was terrible. He wasn't a Scalabisia, PJ. 321 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.000 Washington. PJ Washington was great, e J. Montgomery. So I 322 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.160 was thinking of a guy that played for Kentucky that was, you know, 323 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.720 a really highly regarded kid, but just wasn't very good when he got to 324 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:22.200 college. You know, DJ Wagner was a fine player as a freshman, 325 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:27.160 but he was probably talked about more than any recruit that has come to Louisville 326 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:32.799 or Kentucky in a long long time because of the obvious situation and because of 327 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.440 the Kenny Payne higher and all that. But he was I mean, he 328 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.119 just wasn't really a big factor for Kentucky at all. So he'll have interest. 329 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.799 I mean, he will still be able to probably go to an elite 330 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:52.839 school because he is still being you know, he still has that. He 331 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.960 had good enough numbers as a freshman, and there was so much hype surrounding 332 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.039 him coming out of high school and his numbers again nine points a game, 333 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:06.119 three assists per game, twenty nine percent from three to forty percent from the 334 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:10.319 field. I mean, he was a solid freshman at best, but he 335 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:14.519 was I think very much below expectations because again he was one of the number 336 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.519 one guards in the country. So I don't know where he's gonna end up. 337 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:18.799 If he ends up like coming to Louisville, and he wants to come 338 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.759 to Louisville, then you know, if pack Kelsey wants them, then cool. 339 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.960 But like I'm not, I don't see any real value in going to 340 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.759 get him, And honestly, I don't even think Kentucky fans would care if 341 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.880 louisvill went and got DJ Wagner like there was never really like he never really 342 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.079 he was not their guy this year at any point. I mean, he 343 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:44.119 was their fourth best player at best. In fact, he wasn't their fourth 344 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.200 best player really, he was their fourth best guard. It was Shepard, 345 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.160 Reeves, Dillingham all kind of collectively here throughout the season. So I don't 346 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.279 know where DJ Wagner's gonna end up. But I'm not somebody thinking, oh, 347 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.440 pack Kelsey better pick up the phone. Can we still utilize milts reallyationship? 348 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.759 I mean, I just I bet he ends up. And by the 349 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.039 way, the reports are that he's gonna he's gonna be wide open, but 350 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.640 I would guess that he'll probably end up following Cal at Arkansas or maybe just 351 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.680 winning a total fresh star because I think at times Cal played him more than 352 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.759 he should have because of the arrangement and just the relationship. When I say 353 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:23.319 arrangement, I just mean clearly there's guys who when you commit to Caliperry Kentucky, 354 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.920 I mean, I'm sure he's gonna coach you hard, but like you're 355 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.000 not going there to sit the bench. There's freshman who I mean even DJ, 356 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.400 not DJ, but justin Edwards. Like that guy. That guy was 357 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.200 not productive at any point this year for them on a consistent basis. I 358 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.599 mean, he had had a few games here and there, but like he 359 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.400 was still starting. And you can't convince me it's not because that was an 360 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.960 arrangement. So you know, maybe Cal and him will reunite in Fayetteville, 361 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.680 or maybe he'll just completely start over and you know, end up elsewhere. 362 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.759 But now that I'm thinking about it, DJ Wagner, I mean he was 363 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:02.279 one of the top players in the twenty twenty three class. I mean some 364 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.720 of them had him ranked I think like number one. Well he signed an 365 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.880 do you remember he signed an NIL deal with Nike, And can there be 366 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:18.079 a I mean, listen to the listen to these players that signed with Nike 367 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.240 UH during their senior year, like before getting into UH, you know, 368 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.000 like before they ended up while they were while they were highly regarded recruits, 369 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.039 some of them in fact, some of them were. Some of them are 370 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.200 recruits, some of them were not. But they Nike signed five student athletes 371 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:42.039 nil deals. Caitlyn Clark Hailey Jones of Stanford. Ju Ju Watkins, who 372 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:45.160 was a superstar this past year in the women's game as a freshman, ended 373 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:51.640 up going to USC. She's phenomenal. Bronnie James, I mean, Bronnie 374 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.480 James could not play basketball and get a Nike deal because he has billions of 375 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:02.920 followers, seemingly and he's Lebron jameson DJ wag like talk about one that sticks 376 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:07.839 out more than another as far as any real brand representation for Nike, And 377 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.359 I guess some will say the same with Bronnie James. But I'm not talking 378 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.640 about production as a player. I'm talking about like relevancy. Bronnie James could 379 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:22.240 probably do nothing and stay very much relevant because his father's Lebron and it's already 380 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.599 out there that Lebron wants to play in the NBA with his son. So 381 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.400 like it wasn't it didn't need to be talked about a whole lot because nobody 382 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.960 needed to be mean to DJ Wagner. But like he was a big time 383 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.599 bust. He didn't come anywhere near being as good as what everybody thought he 384 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.960 would be, and it worked out because honestly, the guards that were around 385 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.519 him were better and you know, we're probably more productive than anybody would have 386 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.799 expected, especially Dillingham and Shepard. But yeah, as far as where he 387 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.319 ends up, I have no clue. All right, five two, five, 388 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:53.680 seven seventy nine hundred is the number. If you guys want to jump 389 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.839 in and join us on the phone lines, Let's go to Josh Josh Suare 390 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.200 on Sports Talk seven ninety. How are you hey? How's it going, 391 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.880 Nick Man? I listen to y'all every day. I'm a ride home from 392 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.319 Mark. Thank you. I really like your show, appreciate it. I 393 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.599 got two things. The one is I wasn't excited when Kelsey got hired. 394 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:17.240 The man his energy, and I'm just real excited. Man. I didn't 395 00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.920 even go to a free game last year because we suck so bad. But 396 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.880 I'm pretty pumped up. Then my second question is, maybe you know, 397 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:29.759 maybe you don't. How is our nil money compared to like Kentucky or Yukon? 398 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.400 Do you know? And y'all have a nice day. Thanks, thank 399 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:33.599 you, Josh. I appreciate the phone call, appreciate the con words. 400 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.799 Yeah. I as far as Kelsey, I mean, yeah, he's his 401 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.599 energy, his enthusiasm. I don't know if it's gonna lead to a bunch 402 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.519 of wins. But man, it's infectious. He can fire people up and 403 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.680 believe it or not, that's part of this job. Getting people excited, 404 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.039 engaging with your fans, and selling yourself, selling your plan, what you're 405 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.799 gonna do. You know, all that stuff is super important, especially you 406 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.200 know, when you don't have the opportunity to go win games and give people 407 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.279 results to where they can feel like, you know, hey, you're doing 408 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.240 good or you're doing bad. So by the way, FIBO two f's seven 409 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:08.359 one seventy nine hundred is the number if you guys want to jump in and 410 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.079 give us a call. But yeah, as far as nil, I mean 411 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.440 Louisville right now, I mean, perception is reality, right, and I 412 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960 do believe like this is not just a perception thing. I think there's some 413 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.240 truth to it. Louisville has a lot of good resources within IL, but 414 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.279 I don't know if their resources are like elite compared to this school or that 415 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.279 school. I just don't know. I mean, I don't think we're ever 416 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.920 going to have at any point full transparency as far as you know, the 417 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:45.359 salary caps that programs have. I mean Louisville's very public match. What is 418 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:51.440 it called a campaign where the Fibo two circle is asking for donations and memberships 419 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.839 and when they get to when they get to one million, Rick Keeber, 420 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.000 if Glow Brands is going to match, and that'll give you two million dollars 421 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:04.400 from NIL for men's basketball just from that campaign. That's not counting other money 422 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.799 that is going to be available from the five O two circle, Like, 423 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.119 that's not just that's not just the money that the Fibo two circle has altogether. 424 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.039 That's just for this one campaign that they're doing. And also, you 425 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.599 know, there's six figures worth of NIL money that was set aside for men's 426 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.279 basketball last year that Kenny Payne did not use. So I think they're in 427 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.519 a really good spot. I think they've got money. But as far as 428 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.480 how it compares to other programs, that's what I really don't know. And 429 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:34.240 it's gonna be I mean, it's gonna I mean not to people care that 430 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.720 much about it, you know, because fans are always going to be chesty 431 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.680 and want to claim that they're the top dog and they're better than this program 432 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.599 in that program. But I think you're gonna hear a lot of the top 433 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:49.559 tier programs, Louisville Kentucky being two of them. The Kansas' is the heck 434 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.960 Arkansas. For sure, they're not an elite program to that caliber, but 435 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:57.880 you know they got money, so you'll probably hear about about it, innil 436 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.000 resources being great here, great there. You may see fans in acting like 437 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.720 nobody's nobody's topping us when it comes to the Nile money in the bag, 438 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.839 But I don't think we're ever gonna actually know if any of that's true. 439 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.680 I think, well, I mean, you'll see players going to schools, 440 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.640 and that'll tell us right away if in fact, you know, that'll tell 441 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.319 us right away in fact, there's good money there because there's certain commitments that 442 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.119 you just simply know if you're not coming correct with the bag as they say, 443 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.000 you're not going to get these players. But to answer your question, 444 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.559 I feel like Louisville is in a really good spot, and you know that 445 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:30.400 was their plan. You know, we'll see if it works out. But 446 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.759 I think Josh Hurd's plan was to go on the cheaper route with a coach 447 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.000 as far as salary, and you know, have a lot of folks that 448 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.440 typically would be giving money to help pay for a buyout of a coach that 449 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.680 you're gonna go higher, or maybe just help you with a donation that can 450 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.119 help go towards the coach's salary. That kind of stuff, I think you 451 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.240 know, and I don't know this for sure, but to me, it 452 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.960 seems as if a lot of the noise towards those high level donors and boosters 453 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.119 like Rick Heaver that you know want to help and want to support and they 454 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.599 have the means to do so. I think it's hit clearly. Look, 455 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.000 we're gonna go get a coach that we don't have to pay big buyout because 456 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.440 he's coming from a place like Charleston, and we're gonna give him the tools, 457 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.960 and I guess one of those tools is the bag, and we'll see 458 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:14.119 what he can do. And obviously they've landed one commitment so far. That's 459 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.400 not somebody that followed him. But I wouldn't be shocked if in the next 460 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.559 couple of days we get some commitments, or maybe by the end of the 461 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.920 next probably the beginning of next week, I would say there's a good chance 462 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.799 they have at least three more guys on the roster, which you know that'll 463 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.720 put him at about halfway there. All right, real quick, some breaking 464 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.759 news that came out just a few minutes ago. JJ Trainor, who of 465 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.759 course played here for four years now in the portal he has picked to Paul, 466 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.839 So he's gonna go play for Chris Holtman. So best of luck to 467 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.960 JJ. Great guy. Really really hate that his career at Louisville was the 468 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.799 four years that it was just because of everything. Man, his first season 469 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.039 as a freshman, you know, he's playing where they got the glass up 470 00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.240 like we're at a hockey game. You remember that, right, the COVID 471 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.319 year, and then of course two years of actually, no, his second 472 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:10.200 year was the will JJ, I'm sorry his freshman year, Yeah, it 473 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.799 was the Carly Jones year. And then the next year Mac left mid season. 474 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.759 Just kind of a wasted year all around, with Pigeeze finishing the season. 475 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.880 And then you know, two years of Kenny Payne, and this past 476 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.839 year he got hurt and couldn't play. So JJ actually will have two years 477 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.160 left eligibility if he wants, and I wish him nothing with the best. 478 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:26.880 He's one of those guys that I know he loves Louisville, always will, 479 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:33.119 but anybody around the program for the last couple of years, and I mean 480 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.359 players, any of them wanting a fresh start is totally understandable. Speaking of 481 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.880 that, and we're gonna go to the phone Nunes in just a second, 482 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.720 I promise you. But just got me thinking. You know, the one 483 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.720 player that I've mentioned here and there that I think you could see come back, 484 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.799 although I wouldn't say it's like super likely, is Mike James, because 485 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.839 Mike loves Louisville and I think, you know, I could see him going 486 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.359 elsewhere, but like I think he you know, I mean, he feels 487 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.640 pretty good about Pat Kelsey clearly being able to give him a much better experience 488 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:10.079 at Louisville than you know, the previous coach did. So I'm not saying 489 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.200 for sure that he's going to be back, but I will say this, 490 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:17.039 You're not seeing a whole lot of reporting out there about schools that Mike James 491 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.599 is talking to and visits that are going to take place. So I mean, 492 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.279 I'll be honest, if they got Mike James back, I would consider 493 00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.240 that a big win. I mean, it's not going to you know, 494 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.680 get a whole lot of attention nationally, and I know Mike played for a 495 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.319 team, you know, two teams that were not very good. But I 496 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.960 actually think Mike could really thrive and you know, he's a solid guard. 497 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.680 Now, would he want to come back if maybe they go get some veterans 498 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.400 that are probably going to have a bigger role with bigger minutes than he's played 499 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.119 the last two years. That's a different conversation. But I do know this 500 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.279 about Mike. He loves Louisville. And I don't just mean like Louisville basketball, 501 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.400 Like he loves living here. He loves going to school here. So 502 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.440 maybe you do get him back. And despite how bad the last two seasons 503 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.240 were, he is somebody that like, he's a great guy. I wouldn't 504 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.400 claim to know him like on a personal level, where were hanging out every 505 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.039 day, But you know, you talk to enough people to work at u 506 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:06.319 of L, especially when they're around how bad things were the last couple of 507 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.519 years. Apparently he always had a great attitude and really mature for his age. 508 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.759 So I'd love for them to get him back. But see, all 509 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.559 right, let's go to the phone lines. David. David, you're on 510 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.759 Sports Talk seven ninety. How are you good, Nick? Thanks for taking 511 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.640 my call. Sure, I wanted to talk about that big man from BYU. 512 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.440 I too looked at the list and was looking at his stats, and 513 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:32.240 I was flabbergasted when I saw you only shot thirty eight percent from the floor, 514 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.960 thirty one from three. It almost it almost seems like it'd be hard 515 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.160 to accomplish that stat line if you like went out there and set out to 516 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.519 put up those numbers. It's very odd. It was, and she rebounds 517 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:52.000 a few points. But his assist number at check me and correct me if 518 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.519 I'm wrong. I think for assists were led Loidbill. Oh, you're probably 519 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.640 right, Yeah, probably. I mean, I've thought about that too, 520 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.680 But apparently as soon as I started talking about him, everybody mentioned, you 521 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.680 know, they don't think he should be a priority, but apparently he's for 522 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.599 a big guy, he could throw some dimes like DJ Burns. Well, 523 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:14.000 the only other thing I thought about, And I'm not a conspiracy theorist guy 524 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.559 at all, but and you are right, by the way, he averaged 525 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.079 nearly two more assists per game than Louisville's leader and assists that's what I thought. 526 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.719 I didn't check it, but that that's that's crazy to think about. 527 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:30.440 But I it doesn't tell me like he fits Kelsey's system, So I don't 528 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.519 know. I can't wait. Kelsey would would make would would put him in, 529 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.760 have him come in if he wasn't serious, because I don't think he 530 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.400 has time to pool around. No, he doesn't, you know, he 531 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.440 he didn't have time to be playing games, so he must seriously watch this 532 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.039 guy. I guess. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. It 533 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.000 doesn't make sense. And I'm glad you, David, appreciate the call. 534 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.719 I'm glad you said that because he doesn't fit this the way Kelsey plays. 535 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.239 And and also like if you just look at his numbers and you see guys 536 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.440 in the portal, without knowing any context of a coach leaving, you would 537 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.519 assume that that's a guy with one year left that's played for three years. 538 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.920 It's like, yeah, I'm going to go way down to the lower levels 539 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.079 of college basketball because I want to play and be productive. But I don't 540 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.199 know, maybe he ends up here and he ends up being a star or 541 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:15.920 something. But it just you know, that's a great point that I didn't 542 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.480 even thought about. That actually makes it even more suspect than anything, is 543 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.119 the fact that this does this dude doesn't look like he plays the way that 544 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.280 Pat Kelsey wants to play. But we'll see. All right, quick break, 545 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.440 we'll come back on the other side. Wrap up the four o'clock hour. 546 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.280 It is coffee and company, and we are fueld by Thornton's right here 547 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.960 on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, we were wrapping up the four 548 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.519 o'clock hour here on a Monday afternoon coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's here 549 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.079 on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right. So, fellas, if you 550 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.960 know that you've got to rectalletysfunction condolences, hate to hear it, but I'm 551 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.880 telling you there's a way to fix that. That's to reach out to my 552 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.239 friends at the Louisville Men's Clinic. Go see doctor Wood. And as far 553 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.280 as what that consultation looks like, I'm not quite sure, because you know, 554 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.320 if you know, you know, but they'll talk to you about how 555 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:07.480 common it is and give you the variety of options you have to treat erectile 556 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.880 dysfunction, and uh, it'll change your life because I would imagine if that's 557 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.679 something that you're dealing with, it's not a good thing. I wouldn't shock 558 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.559 me if it impacts your relationship with your partner, and nobody wants that. 559 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.320 So, uh, you know, it's not fun, but it happens. 560 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.239 It's life. And uh that's why I say, you know, they can 561 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.239 change your life because when you no longer have to deal with that and you 562 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.079 and you and your partner are back to business. If you know what I'm 563 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.320 saying, it's a beautiful thing. So go see doctor Wood Louisvill Men's Clinic. 564 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.760 That's the website level Men's Clinic dot com. FAVO two four four four 565 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.880 four thousand. That is the number if you want to give them a call. 566 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.760 So you know, the uh, the for the football portal is gonna 567 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.239 open tomorrow, and you know, I wanted to wait till five o'clock to 568 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.760 get into this, but there really isn't a whole lot to you know, 569 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.800 to add because uh, Louisville is gonna lose Jermaine Lowlay to the portal that's 570 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.440 already public. But I guess technically the portal doesn't open to tomorrow, so 571 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.079 that's whenever I guess it'll become official. But you know, he's a guy 572 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.079 that could never stay healthy. Uh you know when he was in the PAC 573 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.719 twelve. I think it was either Arizona or Arizona State. You know, 574 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.039 just couldn't stay healthy. And a Louisville same situation. So you know, 575 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.519 I don't know where he's gonna end up, and Louisville probably is gonna want 576 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.320 some more depth on both sides up front. But Lowlay, that is the 577 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.599 name that that you know, there's a lot of hype around him because at 578 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.639 the time Louisvill landed him in the portal, it was a big get, 579 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:30.599 uh and it still was. It just you know, he couldn't he couldn't 580 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.239 stay healthy. So I'm not sure where he's gonna end up, but uh, 581 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.880 I think that's the biggest name that we're seeing as far as you know, 582 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:44.280 who who fans are are familiar with. And let me just uh yeah. 583 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.079 So the other names that you're now seeing that are out there in the 584 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:53.519 portal. Victor Cutler, that is somebody that initially was reported by On three 585 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.239 to be in the portal as an old lineman. He's now saying that that's 586 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:04.320 not happening. And I don't know what changed, but there were four players 587 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.320 reportedly entering the portal, according to Pete Knachos at on three yesterday, and 588 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.880 I think like three of them now have kind of since come out and either 589 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.159 said that that's a lie and not true, or they've said that maybe they've 590 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.400 maybe they've changed their mind. But again, they are going to lose some 591 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.000 guys. And it's not because anybody you know, did anything wrong. It's 592 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.880 just because that's how this works, right. I mean, you're going to 593 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.639 see guys move on who probably looked at the Spring as an opportunity to really 594 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.639 solidify their spot on the depth chart, and maybe it didn't work out that 595 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.159 way. Maybe a portal guy came in and and it just you know, 596 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.320 gave them the realization that they need to go elsewhere if they're going to try 597 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.480 to get real reps. And maybe spring wouldn't mean you know, it is 598 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.159 spring ball, right, you have fall camp and all that to battle, 599 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.599 but if you know, you know, and I look, these kids only 600 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.559 have these grown men who make money now playing the game. I mean, 601 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.519 they only have a certain amount of years where they can do this. So 602 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.400 anybody that wants to move on, like I don't, I don't at them 603 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:06.519 because you know, the ability to just change it up probably doesn't help a 604 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.719 lot of these guys because maybe if some some adversity hits and things get tough, 605 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.400 they can just run away and go somewhere else. And you're certainly going 606 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.800 to see players hit the portal three times and everywhere they go they end up. 607 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.840 Yeah, the problems kind of me like, maybe I'm not as good 608 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:21.719 as I thought I was, or maybe I'm not putting in the work that 609 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.639 I need to put in. And that's unfortunate, right because if they stuck 610 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.440 it out and thought through it, maybe they'd be better people down the line. 611 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.679 But at the end of the day, nobody has the right to tell 612 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.199 them that they can't do that. Like that's why you know the portal window, 613 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.599 I mean it closes at the end of Is it at the end of 614 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.199 April when the portal closes for basketball? Think it is. I believe it 615 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.159 May first. I guess it's May somewhere between May one, May third, 616 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.639 something like that, Okay, and then again tomorrow the portal opens for football 617 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.400 post spring, and it'll it'll close at the end of the month. So 618 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:58.480 this is just the window of time where you have the power to go portaling 619 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.159 if you will, and you can, you can leave. You know, 620 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.920 you can wait till whenever to make a decision. But the window is just 621 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.360 for you to be in there and be recruited, because if you try to 622 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.320 enter it after those dates, they're not gonna let you. But here's the 623 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.599 thing. Guys are gonna be able to transfer whenever they want, however many 624 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.000 times they want. Window of time won't matter because here's what's happening. The 625 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.519 NC DOUBLEA cannot win in court. You hire a lawyer, and your lawyer 626 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.800 wants to go to court and challenge the NC doublea's ability to tell you that 627 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.840 you cannot go to school as a student athlete and play anywhere you want. 628 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.840 So I don't mean I think guys are going to transfer as many times as 629 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:39.599 they want, and I think they're going to hit the portal whenever they want. 630 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.719 And that's just the way it's going to be. It's going to be 631 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.760 absolutely, you know, a free for all, which again I do I 632 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.000 do think that the players. Here's the and this is probably I'm gonna have 633 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.039 enough time to really get into this, but here's the issue here. If 634 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.519 the players are going to be able to do that, then they should sign 635 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:01.840 contracts. But because the NCI was so archaic, in their amateurism model, 636 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.639 they never ever did anything to kind of avoid this. Congress had to get 637 00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.840 in the way, and now you know, technically they're not being paid to 638 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.519 play basketball or play football at a school. They're just being paid to exist. 639 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.159 So because of this, it's ended up in the players having all the 640 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:25.679 power. So I don't really see an easy fix for it, because here's 641 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.119 what everybody's now aware of. You hire a lawyer, you tell the NCAA 642 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.719 will take it to the court. They're going to lose, and they know 643 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.920 that too. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other 644 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.360 side. Finish up strong. Here a final hour of the day coffee and 645 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:45.639 company, fuel by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety