WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:07.839 Breaking down all the excess at alls. It's Steve Riverra and Jakin Salves. 2 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:14.359 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:17.280 back to our on the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.280 Rivera, he's Jakin's house. Nobody else with us, So you got breaking 5 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:26.399 news. There we go. This is high on the Ball, breaking news 6 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:31.079 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, um, we'll just start with 7 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:36.840 a couple of couple of downers for some Arizona Arizona athletes. Um Stanley berry 8 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:41.000 Hill who got caught up in in a gambling thing, got suspended. He 9 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:46.600 has now been released by the Lion. What a great dude too, Yeah, 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.359 great dude. You know, you know when you're when you're a guy 11 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:54.399 who's fighting for a job and stuff. Can't do that right now. We 12 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:58.280 talked about this, actually talked about this yesterday because all this stuff went on 13 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.240 and I when I was stayed, you talked about that too, Yeah, 14 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.200 that you know, he got guys, you just got to be smart enough, 15 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:08.959 Stanley. He was halfway within the rules. NFL players are allowed to 16 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:14.480 gamble legally or you can't gamble in the NFL. But you also can't gamble 17 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:19.920 from a team facility, and he was at the team facility. You can 18 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.400 tell where people are. If you've been on one of these gambling sides, 19 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:29.640 you know, you have to give them access to your location so that they 20 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:34.000 know you're in allegal gambling state, so they know to the yard where you 21 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.439 are, and you know they g offensive places. So he wasn't supposed to 22 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.879 be betting from the facility. It came out that he was. He got 23 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.120 suspended. Now he's been released. Let me ask you this because I saw 24 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:48.760 that I was stuff coming back yesterday and I'm thinking you you're not surprised to 25 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.640 what that's happening. No, well, yes and no, because you know 26 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.680 we had Adam in here who worked you know when gambling was legally you know, 27 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.359 he was working in the AT fight department. He said, the number 28 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:02.519 one thing, the number one rule in working in an athletic department where you're 29 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.280 an at whether you're an athlete or a staff members, you can't gamble. 30 00:02:07.960 --> 00:02:15.280 You can't on sports at all because because there's so many NC double A sports 31 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.560 that you know, you can't gamble of football. You can't camble on back 32 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.719 because They're like, if you're in the NFL, you're just football, right, 33 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.439 But you're in a college, you're in a college athletic program. You 34 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.560 got all the sports there, so you can't gamble on it. They just 35 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.439 say, do not gamble on anything. People get fired. Rick new Heisl 36 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.319 famously got fired for just being in the March March Madness. Pool Right lost 37 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:40.240 his head coaching football coaching job. So I'm surprising that people continue to be 38 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:45.960 done all right. I mean, twenty six athletes at Iowa State was the 39 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.560 last number I saw. Fifteen at Iowa all gambling. We're not supposed to. 40 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.280 No, we haven't heard anything, but there is a criminal investigation of 41 00:02:55.319 --> 00:03:00.280 some sort, I think at Iowa State or one of them. What are 42 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.039 they shaving points? Now? Is that what we're what we're what are they 43 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:07.400 doing? But the bottom line is you can't gamble. So I'm surprised that 44 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.800 kids, anybody thinks they can get away with this. What I'm not surprised 45 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.360 about is that you know, people are trying to, you know, figure 46 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:22.360 away around this. If your college athlete just lay off, just don't It's 47 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.240 as simple as that, you know, But you know, people kill people 48 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.960 and they know they're not supposed to be they do, so what are you 49 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.000 gonna do? But um, anyway, Stanley Burial, it's too bad and 50 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.759 he's probably not gonna give another shot either. I would because because of that, 51 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:38.479 because because of that, you know. So that's too bad. So 52 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.599 let's see what happens. Um. Also a Jade Leville, the guard from 53 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:49.520 Arizona women's basketball who was drafted thinking the sixth round, I think the last 54 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.520 round of the the w NBA Draft. She was released today by the Seattle 55 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.680 Storm. So she's looking for a job. Let's see if she wins them. 56 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:01.199 And how many people at the Phoenix? Mrker? Is it just uh 57 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:10.840 just Sam Thomas sometimes Kate, that's it? Um. A couple of deaths 58 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:15.600 in the family. Um uh uh Joe cap who worm spartan warm spot in 59 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:19.759 my heart because I loved him when he was playing, uh with the with 60 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:24.199 the Vikings. He was just he was a guy who didn't look like he 61 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.120 could or should be a quarterback. His his his passes were always wobbly, 62 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.959 he didn't have an arm. He was kind of clunky, uh, a 63 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:36.120 little awkward, but he got the Vikings to a super Bowl against the Chiefs. 64 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.120 Um. Then he he had played at Cal, went on to become 65 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.959 the coach at Cal. Was famously the coach and that uh in the the 66 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.040 play the kickoff in the Stanford Cal game. Uh, he was the coach 67 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.000 of that. He's the one who called, uh, you know, the 68 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:57.360 the lateral play that they did just scored that touchdown. He was also the 69 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.000 coach that started the downfall of the eighty three Arizona team that was undefeated, 70 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.199 went to Cal, was up twenty six to three, ended up tying the 71 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.000 game, and then that team went into the pooper. I'll give you a 72 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.279 couple more tidbits on him. What'd you call him? Clunk passes? Yeah, 73 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:14.920 he was the clunky guy, awkward kind of guy. Yeah, guess 74 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.519 where he was born in New Mexico, Santa Fe, New Mexico. In 75 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:24.000 fact, his book because I knew that as a kid. I think his 76 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.519 book was one of the first ones I've ever read as a kid, like 77 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.399 a young kid, thinking he was just dude from my home tim hometown. 78 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:32.240 But in the pro he was a pro football quarterback. And I'm thinking, 79 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:34.279 you see, I could do it. I know I could do it. 80 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:39.879 So I read this story on Joe Cab being born in Santa and famously was 81 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:44.759 in one of the all time great sports movies, The Longest Longest he had, 82 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.160 the Longest Yark, the original I'm looking at his chase now, yeah, 83 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.240 yeah, yeah, he was in the Original Longest Yark. So just 84 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:55.399 somebody that you know, I kind of grew up. Yeah. Yeah, 85 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:59.319 that's complications of dementia, which is yeah, that's just the worst. That's 86 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:03.920 how But he quarterbacked calt to Rose Bowl. Then that was the last time 87 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:09.199 they were in the Rose Bowl in nineteen fifty nine. So, um, 88 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:14.720 all right, and then also Denny Crumb has passed away three i think eighty 89 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.519 six six six six final fours of Louisville, two national titles. Um, 90 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.560 genuinely good guy. He's the one the tournament to a blue blood. Yeah, 91 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:28.879 yep, there's the thing. There's a there was a college football report 92 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.680 did a blue blood analysis that I got to find again, okay, we'll 93 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:35.519 have that conversation. And basically Arizona they don't they only have like five. 94 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:43.720 It's it's a it's a small girl. Yeah yeah. But Denny Crumb, 95 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.879 who again, you know, good guy by by all accounts, you know, 96 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.079 people love sure. I mean he was famously well, one of Wooden's 97 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.639 assistants, right, I think right, he was back in the day. 98 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.879 Right, he was a John Wooden assistant got Louisville to the Promised Land. 99 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.319 So, um he was in there. Um. You see women's golf has 100 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.879 mentioned. Um they are tied for fourth at the NCUBA Regional. They're in 101 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:12.360 Raleigh, North Carolina. But it's bunched up fourth out of twelve, but 102 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.560 you have to finish in the top five. They're tied for force. So 103 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.800 basically they're in the top five, but only by a stroke. North Carolina 104 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:24.959 State leads at minus six ACU A second and minus four and Wake Forest at 105 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:29.800 plus one Arizona pro due a plus two than Florida State plus three TCUO plus 106 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.120 fourth. They're all bunched up. That's after two rounds. You one more 107 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.639 round tomorrow. Top five go to the national championship, which will be played 108 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:43.680 here in uh in Phoenix. All right. Um. The interesting note this 109 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.879 just came across a little bit agoing. This is probably more of a conversation 110 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:53.199 than breaking news, but uh, the story was done. That's it was 111 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:57.639 basically about Washington football by Christian Capel, who one of the one of the 112 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:05.560 Washington fan bases As reports that twenty or fifty two percent of the twenty twenty 113 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:13.720 one Pack twelve recruit football recruiting class has gone into the transfer forty fifty two 114 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.519 percent. You have transferred out. More than half of the guys that were 115 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:24.879 recruited to Pack twelve schools are gone after two seasons. That's a little worse 116 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:30.279 than the divorce ry are a little bit better. I should say two years. 117 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:31.840 I wonder what the wedding, the marriage things up in two years. 118 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:35.639 No, No, that's a lot. And I don't know if it's because 119 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.840 of being unhappy or because of NL, but I would assume it's time play 120 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.120 time unhappy. You know, guys who have an extra year to play, 121 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.960 you know, can go somewhere and they say, Okay, you know, 122 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.559 I still got four years left, I'm gonna go here, or I still 123 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.080 got three years, I'm gonna go here. But twenty twenty one recruiting class 124 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:01.600 fifty two percent gone after two seasons, So people who are basically sophomores eligibility 125 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.360 wise, right out of here, I thought that was a really really interesting 126 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:07.799 stat um. Okay, we got to circle back to this because we reported 127 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.320 this when it happened. But matt Araiza, the punt god from San Diego 128 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.360 State and a couple of years ago, got caught up in a in a 129 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.080 the Bills, right, so yeah, he had got he had been drafted. 130 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:26.039 Uh pretty hot sixth round pick. Was an alleged gang rape when he 131 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:31.600 was in high school. Um charges were never filed. Uh. He the 132 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.559 same as Jaden Delora. There was a lawsuit, his name came out in 133 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:41.759 it. Uh, the Bills released him immediately. Acrossecutor from the San Diego 134 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.720 District Attorney's Office has come out and said that there in their investigation, they 135 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.639 determined that he could not have been at the at the at the side of 136 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.639 the rape at the time of the rape, that he had left this party 137 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:58.360 and they have video evidence that he was no longer there when this thing happened. 138 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.360 Crop, your whole life has been screwed up. And then and then 139 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.759 the lawyer for the for the victim is saying that they're not going to be 140 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.679 bullied into dropping the lawsuit and that the case is going to trial and that 141 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.840 they are going to it. Says we will force a rise at a talk 142 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.519 whatever that means. So they're not letting him out of the lawsuit. But 143 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.879 the but the San Diego prosecutor said he was not there and they have proof 144 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:24.399 of that. So whatever that means. Okay, do you see what the 145 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.720 Tiger Woods is going through? Yeah? Again, still worse tight Tigers. 146 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.720 You know you know what he just needs. He just needs to stay single. 147 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.799 Hey, be away, Tiger. If you're gonna listen to me, 148 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.200 this is what you should listen to me about. One thing. Tiger starts 149 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:48.159 a million or otherwise interesting stat heading into the heading into the Sun's the Sun's 150 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:56.320 game tonight. Um, only two pairs of teammates in NBA history NBA history 151 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:03.679 have put together thirty five plus points each in back to back games. Obviously, 152 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:09.159 guess who two of them are. Oh, the only other teammates to 153 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.559 do that ever, Jerry West and Elgin Bayley. So they're going for three 154 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.960 tonight, but they're in Denver. He thinks that would have called you. 155 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.840 He called yesterday. I goaded him into calling us. What he said, 156 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.159 Uh, he said that this son's gonna kick their butts and they they they're 157 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:31.519 two and two. Played at home. I would I love you steal me 158 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.639 a dinner? Yeah, I I I you know, I kind of I 159 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.200 called him out, told him I had to call it. Yeah, yeah, 160 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.080 but he called yesterday. We had a little had a little chat. 161 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:48.559 He still feels pretty confident about about sons sons for him. Hey, you 162 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.879 know what, come on, man, I mean you know, uh, 163 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.360 you know what do you of course he's gonna he's gonna stick with this guy, 164 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.480 all right, Um, big game Boomer comes out with the best college 165 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.240 mascot in every state. Okay, this will be interested. It's a map 166 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.720 of the map of the United States. Got the best mascot? Does it 167 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.559 say why or otherwise than just it's just a map with the with the best 168 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.200 mascot. This will be interesting. Let's go through the PAC twelve. Okay, 169 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.960 because there's what every one, two, three, there's five states in 170 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:26.120 the PAC twelve County Washington, Oregon. You see Washington, Oregon, Sistornia. 171 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:33.000 I'm gonna take no, that's mascot. He's pretty looking, good looking 172 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.559 at lah Okay, the bear, who do you think it is in the 173 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:43.279 state of Colorado? Uh? Buffalo, Yes, in the state of Washington. 174 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:50.440 Uh. But the Washington in the state of Oregon. Yeah. The 175 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:56.840 duck in the state of Arizona. That's a tough one tough alright, one. 176 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.480 I think I see that. I think I see the devil more than 177 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.600 I do the Wildcat. So the Wildcat Arizona. Wow, Yeah, I 178 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.759 like that. I like that. Okay. In the state of Alabama, 179 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:16.360 who you gotta go with, Alabama? Auburn's got the war Eagle, dude, 180 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.200 Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say Albert Night. Then I said, 181 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.480 well, it's obvious, it's not a trick question. Okay, Texas, 182 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.840 I gave it up. Yeah, but that's a cool mask. He 183 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.360 looks good. He looks goods Okay. In New Mexico, Thelobo, all 184 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.960 right, Globo, even though they shouldn't. Hey, I didn't not even 185 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.519 claim an enemy shoe anymore. So many issues. I'm sure you saw what's 186 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.039 going on. Last let me let me say no, I won't say it. 187 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.919 I won't go ahead, no, no, because I'll say I got 188 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.679 a minute left. So Aikin was here, right, what is the name? 189 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:54.360 That was? Basketball player that was here and making he played maybe a 190 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.559 few games, and then he left mysteriously ends up at New Mexico State, 191 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.799 and then it's part of this mess, right, he is part of this 192 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.320 part of a big part of it. What the hell. I mean, 193 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.919 no one's ever said what he left here right officially? No, officially, 194 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.240 and then he goes over there and then creates messes over there. Come on, 195 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.519 come on the mess it's a mess over there. It's just all over 196 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.279 the place. Yeah, all over the place over there. Yeah. Yeah, 197 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.200 um, it is what it is, just but it's not a good 198 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.840 man. What about Florida, Florida, Miamim. Yeah, they've got the 199 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.679 it looks like a duck, but it's not a duck. What they call 200 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.559 you. It's got a weird name, you know. Okay, all right, 201 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:37.840 let's take a break. We're gonna have a Corey Williams to come in 202 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:43.159 and talk about Tucson Summer Pro League, his league for youth that are gonna 203 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.159 be playing out this summer at this at the Gregory Grey School. But also 204 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.960 ask him a little bit about oh wait, wait, wait, he just 205 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:52.519 texted me he can't do for seventeen Apparently he got into him. Four thirty 206 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.080 five thirty five. Okay, so we'll be back then we'll head out of 207 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.840 here. We'll take your calls. 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Obviously the coach at the basketball coach at USC's collecting 262 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:18.400 some talent. Yes, people were saying that USC. There's already some people 263 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.039 picking USC to win back twelve next year. They have talent with Bronnie. 264 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:25.720 Is it Ronnie gonna be there next year for the year. Now he's two 265 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:27.680 years, he's a twenty twenty four recruits. So here's the way to you 266 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.119 yeahbly not this coming year with the next Okay, Dennis Rodman's son is gonna 267 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.799 be head to transfer the Rodman in the tent. Now he'll play next year. 268 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.519 And he was he was really good. I mean, he's you know, 269 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.880 if you recall he was. He hit a bunch of three pointers in 270 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.359 that second half against Arizona down here to win that game for those guys. 271 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.480 He was really good. Right, So we'll see if the coach tell me 272 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:55.519 his name. I forget stuff already. Uh Andy, who's who's highly thought 273 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.200 of when he got there, hasn't really done what he was. He's been 274 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:00.599 close, right, He's been close. But that's some good teams. He's 275 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.279 had some good talent, but he hasn't He hasn't gotten gotten over the right. 276 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.200 So now maybe he's got some talent enough talent to do that. Yeah, 277 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.960 you noticed that there's no transfers from you UCLA leaving basketball right from that. 278 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.079 But they lost a lot of guys, lost a lot of guys. 279 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.880 But still they've lost their they lost their whole starting line up to uh to 280 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.359 the draft, to the robson the draft intelligible. But still you know how 281 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.119 people in this town hate, yeah, hate the coach. Well, well, 282 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.759 there was a there was a thing yesterday that we talked about. It 283 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.599 had I think Brian Peterson. I saw us to schools and how many transfers 284 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.400 Arizona had five transfers. Well, Ucla at zero, then a couple of 285 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.799 schools had four, then Arizona had five. Yeah, schools are nine eight. 286 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.559 Yeah, yeah, I know schools. It's it's a crazy time. 287 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.960 Like you said, fifty two percent, two percent of the football recruits from 288 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.839 twenty twenty one all have left there. I like you, Steve, but 289 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:57.720 I don't want to be with you, so I gotta go. It sounds 290 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.319 familiar that, all right. So okay, so I dug that, I 291 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:04.000 dug this back up, and I mentioned it a little bit of breaking as 292 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.640 we should talk about it. So College Basketball Reporter, which does similar things 293 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.359 to what Big Game boomers, Okay, they put out they're all time college 294 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.039 Basketball Tier. Will we fight about this? No? I don't think no, 295 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.720 because you know what I'm kind of you're following me a little bit softening 296 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.079 up. I get good. I like it. I like it, all 297 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:29.039 right. So they listed blue bloods next in line, next four out. 298 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:33.000 I think I've seen this because I've seen this before. Great programs, the 299 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.319 programs, respectable programs. Other blue bloods. Okay, Kansas, Duke, 300 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.519 Kansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA five five blue bloods. That's it 301 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.519 and correct okay, and those are all yeah, okay without it, that 302 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:55.079 says next in line, Louisville, Yukon. Okay, who else you canill? 303 00:21:55.319 --> 00:22:03.960 Um? Number of championships? Uh you um, number of championships? 304 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.079 Hold on, you caught me off guard here I have to go um um 305 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.279 tell me Indiana, Oh, Indiana, And that's kind of yeah, Bellanova 306 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.960 okay, Michigan State, Okay, perfect sense. So what are they doing 307 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.279 in fives? No? Not necessary? No, not necessarily. So she 308 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.960 says, the next four out, So that's ten. So that right there 309 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:27.240 is ten, okay, next four out of the of the conversation. What's 310 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.599 as blue bloods? Next in line, next four out out of the conversation. 311 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.799 So that's the Arizona is likely in this. Arizona's probably likely in this. 312 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.359 Who I want to say, Texas, but I'm not sure that they 313 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:48.279 deserve that. Florida maybe no um man man man man man mision, Michigan, 314 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.839 Michigan, Oh House State State, Arizona give me think, old grumpy, 315 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.960 fart head coach, you just retire. Yeah, that makes sense. 316 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.400 But Arizona is in the top fire in the next four they're in the top 317 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.640 fourteen. Yeah, yeah, I agree, which to me, I guess 318 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.839 no, because you know what, I'm not willing to call Michigan in the 319 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.480 house state of blue blood. I would, I could see, I could 320 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:17.200 category ize Syracuses a blue blood. So yeah, but they've only won one 321 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.559 tournament, right, This is a This is a much tighter definition of a 322 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.960 blue blood. And I'm I'm okay with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 323 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.960 yeah. And your argument. I'm slapping into your argument too, because 324 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.920 you said top fifteen and I said, no problem with that. But it's 325 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.279 not it's not in that blue blood. It's a great program without a reputation 326 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:38.240 of a great program. But so the next category he calls it, they 327 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.720 call it great programs. Okay, Texas, Texas, there's there's one, 328 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.000 two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine. 329 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:48.319 Geez, you get throw the whole thing in there. Texas seventeen programs. 330 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.640 The next year, Oregon, um, you've got Nope, during the next 331 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.519 year after that as well, Holy We'll give me. There aren't anymore pack 332 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.559 Oh, there's one pack. Yeah, there's one pack twelve team in there. 333 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:07.279 Who Washington, Utah's in there? Basketball? Yeah, yeah, they 334 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.039 got a final foreign Okay, yeah, but they were didn't win. Cincinnati, 335 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:18.400 Gonzaga, Arkansas, Marquette, Houston, Illinois, North Carolina State, 336 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:26.279 Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Maryland, Virginia, Utah, Perdue, 337 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:32.400 Wisconsin, Florida, u n l V. Come No, Oregon in 338 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.519 the Oregans in the next round. Yeah, Oregans done more than than a 339 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.079 lot of those teams out there. Tanks. They've got Cal in there. 340 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.599 No, there's no way they got Temple, Oregon, LSU, Cal, 341 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:51.240 Baylor, West Virginia, San Francisco. Uh no, wait a minute, 342 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.400 I thought that was Gonzaga. But that looks like Gonzaga. I think they're 343 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.559 flowed after the first fourteen. And if you're gonna put so many in their 344 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:07.799 Organs, not in their Texas order Dame Texas, Memphis, Iowa. Who's 345 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:14.359 Georgetown, Georgetown, that's Georgetown under great programs. Look, then you got 346 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.000 Gonzaga a stepula, Come on, come on. The last twenty years, 347 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.480 Gonzaga has been one of the most successful programs in the country. Yet twenty 348 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.720 five years and be speaking of your your boy, Andy Enfield. They've got 349 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:29.279 in the last in the last row, says respectable programs you've got You've got 350 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.200 Stanford in there, You've got USC in there. Uh, Xavier is in 351 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:41.160 there, Tennessee Alabama, Missouri BYU West Virginia in there. Uh I saw 352 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.359 what see West Virginia hire. No, West Virgia is not on this list 353 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.960 at all. That's a who's whose list? Is this? They're called College 354 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.640 Basketball Report, They're a Twitter feed. Okay, I'm not too sure about 355 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.640 that list is in there at the bottom. I'm not sure about that list. 356 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.759 I mean, come on, Georgia, you have to you have to 357 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.359 agree with that. And comes Stanford has gone to fine and four and the 358 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.680 last some years, I mean they beat Arizona, who ninety eight, They 359 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.440 got further than Arizona. Oregon has had a better program over a lot of 360 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:12.079 those schools that you mentioned, Temple and all these what But you know, 361 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:17.240 Oregan has only been good though for a few years. Okay, well most 362 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:22.119 recent was the last time Temple was any good? Yeah, long time, 363 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:30.599 a long time since since the last time he was choking Calipari. And I'd 364 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.160 say that joking but it's true. Didn't really happen. It really, that 365 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:41.759 really did happen. Steve to prove a point, you honor. All right, 366 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.759 so there you go. I just thought to bringing that up. I 367 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.960 have to. Yeah, you know, I think the flow beyond the first 368 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.559 fourteen because that list of eighth or whatever it was, that's kind of wish 369 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.799 you watching. Yeah, the frings with the first after the fourteen, the 370 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.480 big that's kind of well, you can throw a lot of teams in there, 371 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.400 right, you're right, right and not be wrong, but team right. 372 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.319 If they put some teams you can move, you know, you can 373 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:10.160 these these Uh, it's like putting Nebraska and Free It's like putting Nebraska in 374 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.920 in the top twelve and they haven't done something in a long time. Yeah, 375 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.839 but they're still Nebraska in our world. Yeah, in our world, 376 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:23.160 right in the kids were your son's world? Nebraska? What exactly exactly? 377 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:30.960 The all right? Um, okay, it looks like the NBA is gonna 378 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.960 invite this. According to the Wildcaster that Zulas to Ballas may be invited to 379 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.200 the co draft combine. Wow wow, but could this let me ask you 380 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:41.359 something. If we have three and a half minutes before we get to courty. 381 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.440 Um, would this be more of a surprise or which you would be 382 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.960 in the biggest surprise Dylan Terry, because at this time last year we're thinking, 383 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.359 uh, he's just gonna test the water. He's gonna there's no way 384 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.799 he's gonna stick around, he's gonna come back. Or is this more surprising 385 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.119 that he gets drafted, that he gets that he's going this far in he 386 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.759 could possibly get drafted, he's going to the combine. Well, if he 387 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.640 goes to the combine, you know he gets the chances, yes, exactly. 388 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.039 Which one is more surprising because last year, you know we said, 389 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.720 okay, he's just doing the test of waters, blah blah blah, and 390 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:18.359 then he gained some steam. It's difficult, Yeah, but you know Dalon 391 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.119 Terry was not the Pactall Player of the Year. True, but you know 392 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:29.119 that that Dalon Terry has more NBA potential than a game than in Zulas because 393 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.000 he can do though. That's why I ask which is more surprising Zulus? 394 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.920 Zulus needs to work on his outside game. Well, if he goes, 395 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.440 if he can go over and show that he's got an outside game, maybe 396 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.720 he will. He'd been sleeping not sleeping at all the last well, but 397 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.240 he was playing a position where they didn't want him to do that. Sure, 398 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:48.519 but you still have to do it. I mean, you still have 399 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:51.680 to go and do it if you're gonna do it at the next level. 400 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.160 Because his game is does not translate. It does not again be tweener, 401 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.119 right, He's not. He's not. He's Michael Wright a little bit out 402 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.839 of the Michael right from the premier because they're gonna say, I mean, 403 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.799 they're gonna say that he's he's not six to eleven. He's probably gonna be 404 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.240 six nine and a half. It's like Peter Sex for the first time when 405 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:18.480 SI when the Who's a Memphis? Who's Who's Sibonis? Memphis Memphis? So 406 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.920 people are seeing him for the first time because they were playing in the playoffs 407 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.200 right now, and people there's a kid on the Memphis that looks a lot 408 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:30.200 like Azulas No duh no, no dub where you've been, right and Azulas 409 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.480 not Siboni. Yeah exactly, so I I yeah, I mean, I 410 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:38.480 mean, nothing's changed as far as but he's gonna get his chances, which 411 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.960 is fantastic more than you thought, right, right, more than I thought. 412 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:47.319 Yeah, good for him. All right, Hey, okay, I've 413 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:48.640 got another minute. So because we got to make sure we get to we 414 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.839 get Corey at the right time. So um oh, here's an interesting thing. 415 00:29:53.960 --> 00:30:00.039 So the Georgia football team has declined their White House invitation. Wow. 416 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:07.079 I'm just opening it up to see why. Wow. Um it says the 417 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.920 date suggested is not feasible given the student athlete calendar and time of year. 418 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:17.799 However, we are appreciative of the invitation and look forward to other opportunities from 419 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.039 Georgia teams movie forward. They were trying to get him there. On June 420 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.839 twelve. I was with the University Bears on a basketball team when they went 421 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:33.519 to see Um Clinton. I think Clinton, Yeah, Um looked more provincial 422 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.079 presidential than than the president. Right, But the kids had a great time, 423 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.279 because come on, how many come on, how many times you do 424 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.680 that? Yeah? You did did it once? How many times? I 425 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.119 didn't get to go to the White House visit? But I actually was there 426 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.920 for there was a big reception that te he helped sponsors if I got to 427 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.759 go to that, but I was not at the actual White House. It's 428 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.960 just not what you think. It's small. It's like the rooms that it's 429 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.279 a small room people. Yeah, very well, that was what you said. 430 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.279 Because when we said, you know, we'd love to sponsor an event 431 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.839 with the you know, Arizona Congressional delegation, you said, well you can, 432 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.400 but you're not going to the ceremony. 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Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app Just Surgery I 492 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:36.000 on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to Ying the Ball here on Fox 493 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.199 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagonzos. Now have Corey Williams, 494 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:44.639 former UA hoopster back in the day and the Two Sounds Summer Pro League 495 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:49.000 founder. How are you, Corey. I'm doing good again. We're doing 496 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.760 fine. Thanks for joining us. What year are you in now with this 497 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.559 program? Oh, there's our nineteenth summer coming up. Nineteenth summer. Who 498 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.239 would have thought that, right, you've done very well with it. I'm 499 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.599 sorry, you've done very well with it. Who would have thought nineteen years? 500 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.159 Oh? Absolutely, It's been a great situation for us, and I 501 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.880 never would have thought we'd been going this long. But we've had a number 502 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.960 of people in the community that have opened doors and supported with sponsorships, so 503 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.960 it's been great. What's the primary goal of this why you do this for 504 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.280 obviously a really good reason. What in your mind are you trying to achieve 505 00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.239 with this program in the summer. Well, to be quite honest with you, 506 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.320 I'm just basically I haven't trying to recreate my youth. I mean, 507 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.039 now, I was a very fortunate kid. I played basketball in the Chicago 508 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.039 suburbs during the eighties. It doesn't get any better than that. I mean, 509 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.800 I grew up playing at parks, I grew up playing at rec centers. 510 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.719 There are lots of adults that would open up the gym boys and you 511 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.519 know, I mean it all the way to University of Arizona without paying a 512 00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.079 dime to play basketball. And I never felt like, at a certain age, 513 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.000 a kid's participation in sports shouldn't be about money, it shouldn't be about 514 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.960 their resources. So for me, I go on to the community and I 515 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.519 spake my little tin Trump and trying to get people to help me out so 516 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.320 that we can give kids a great league, the great experience for not a 517 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.239 lot of money, because unfortunately a lot of sports now they you have to 518 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.920 pay have access to sports. And I'm not from that era. And even 519 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:29.960 though it's just one man in one city with one league. I just really 520 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.159 wish that things could be a little bit different than they are now for young 521 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.599 people, because sports gives you so much and it shouldn't depend on your financial 522 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:45.119 situation whether or not a kid gets involved. So what's your estimation of the 523 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.880 number of kids that have come through the doors for you? Oh, I 524 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.480 got to say, we're somewhere around this is so. I think we're definitely 525 00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.199 over a thousand kids easy. Maybe I take somewhere around twelve thirteen hundred kids 526 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.639 so far that we since we started the kids division. He talked about players 527 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.760 and two SOCCs from our pro league as a whole. Now we're talking about 528 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.440 i'd say maybe twenty five hundred and three thousand people right nineteen years and real 529 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.159 quick. Not included the guys, the older group that you had before, 530 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.800 but the younger kids. You know. Yeah, I'm sure you see him 531 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.679 now, many of them who have come and gone in high school basketball, 532 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.920 maybe even some playing college. Yeah, it's so great to see guys, 533 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.719 you know. I remember we built an album place for year age. When 534 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.480 he first walked in our gen I demanded paperwork on him. I was like, 535 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.159 there's no way, the thirteen he's like six seven at thirteen, but 536 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.800 he gave the team major And I've seen a lot of the young kid Titus 537 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.280 Palmer, who's having a decent high school career and looking to play afterwards. 538 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:52.239 When we see the kids go on and continue their career, it's just really 539 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.800 rewarding because for me, I know that when you're about Kate between eight to 540 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:00.800 twelve, eight to thirteen, that's when you fall in love with the sport, 541 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:06.039 and basketball gets harder for you as you get older. So if you 542 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.880 don't love it, kids are more out to quit if they're not in love 543 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.039 with it. So my job is to let them have fun, makes upball 544 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.599 in love with basketball so they'll stick with it as it gets more and more 545 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.079 difficult. Well that's where I wanted to go for a second. So what 546 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.719 you're trying to do is to give them an experience that they'll they'll remember, 547 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.159 they'll not not just treasure, but then also get something from it from a 548 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.719 skill standpoint and experience standpoint. Whether you're as you said, whether you're eight 549 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.119 years old or twelve years old, right, absolutely, I mean there's got 550 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.519 to be a reason for kids to step on the court. If they liked 551 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.280 the game, if they're playing with their friends. Us For me, by 552 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.920 sportsune and outlet, it was wait for me to kill time and hanging out 553 00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.880 with my buddy. So we just played basketball literally by default, that was 554 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.360 our primary outdoor activity. For young people, I feel like, you know, 555 00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.840 they got to have a reason, they got to be motivating it, 556 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.119 they're having fun. It's a lot easier to get them out there because the 557 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:09.559 true secret is all sports and most everything in life is all by repetition. 558 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.320 So if you like something and you're doing it a lot because you like it, 559 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.719 then you're going to get better. Whether you mean to or not, 560 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:22.000 you're doing because you're going to get the reps in. So our focus is, 561 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.800 let's let's get the reps in and the phone in the atmosphere. And 562 00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.239 you know that's that's really what's going to need the kid to further development down 563 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.559 down the road. It's funny you say that because, um, having been 564 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.480 a ballplayer, but you've been a bigger ballplayer. If you don't repeat and 565 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.880 repeat, wax, repeat rints and all that stuff, and you're right, 566 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.639 you know, it's just repetition, repetition and playing and playing that's how you 567 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.800 get paid better. I mean that's the secret sauce right there. It's the 568 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.480 secret sauce, and you have to disguise it because if you just bring a 569 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.480 kid in the gym and make them do the same thing over and over, 570 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:58.079 they're gonna get bored. They're gonna quit. Right But you know, they're 571 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.239 running, they're running the court, and they can lay ups, they're passing, 572 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.519 they're high fives, and every time they do something good, they're they're 573 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.400 cheering when they get a steal. They're getting the rep sin in the atmosphere 574 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.159 where they don't even realize it. And that's to be it what we try 575 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.719 to do. But you're a hundred percent right, Like getting a kid to 576 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:22.039 develop their skill at that age when they're not there's not a muscle development, 577 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.840 So there's no beer than to lift weights it, there's no good fee to 578 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.840 make them run sprint. They're too young for any of that in my opinion. 579 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.000 Now I know that there's parents who hire trainers at that age, but 580 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.920 I think middle school, you're you're wasting your time, you're rating your money. 581 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.840 The kids not even developing yet. So let them enjoy the game. 582 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.119 But I'm fun and then you can start with the skill development. And mustle 583 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.719 development to cardio and all that other stuff. They've got the rest of their 584 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.960 life to do that. So I just want the kids to come in and 585 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.880 have a good time and enjoy basketball, pressure free situation, pressure free environment. 586 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.719 So you had you had an event over over the weekend where kids in 587 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.800 come and you know, kind of experienced this for the first time. And 588 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.719 then is that to kind of help them decide if they want to come for 589 00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.599 the summer program? I mean, what was the purpose to put you guys 590 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.159 get over the weekend. Well, the other philosophy is that, you know, 591 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.280 we want a competitive league, so we want to space the talent out 592 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.039 and build the teams in the league even leacause the kids have the better experience. 593 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.679 So if we got a first timer on a team, we make sure 594 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.719 we have one or two first timers on every team. So there's kids at 595 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.800 every level playing against your life competition. So that makes it a lot better. 596 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.800 So the purpose of the open run it's kind of a meet and greet 597 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.719 to kind of lightly evaluate the kids being where they're skill on with that so 598 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.800 that when we do start the league and we have our rosters, that we 599 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.559 try to have a competitive league. I think we don't obviously try to manipulate 600 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.119 the outcomes of the games, but we do want to build the teams even 601 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.239 so that the kids have fun. And you know, there's nothing fun about 602 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:58.599 twenty five point blowout at half time. I think that that's when a lot 603 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:06.400 of bad habits, chick in bad attitudes, kids get disconnected. And not 604 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.599 to sound old, but I think this younger generation is very, very sensitive 605 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:15.199 to how they look, and no one wants to be getting the shot block 606 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.000 and getting be thirty. I mean, kids just unplubed. They just something 607 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.280 they don't want to do that that play. You see the emergence of au 608 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.440 club ball, where everybody plays with their friends and the team full of good 609 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.800 players, so nobody quote unquote looks bad. Well, you don't get to 610 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.000 play with your friends forever. So I'm not a really I'm not really a 611 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.079 fan of that concept. But it's just me so I correct in saying this 612 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.920 that you are going to start a women's league now or a little girls league 613 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.280 now for the first time. Yeah, we used to be. We used 614 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.960 to be Agent ten through thirteen co ed. But the truth is I was 615 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.159 behind the times in that thinking because there were a lot of girls that didn't 616 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.719 mind playing with boys. But what ended up happening was we had you know, 617 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.480 there's such a talent and side difference between and eleven, a ten year 618 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.880 old and thirteen year old, and then I thought we started to be a 619 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.320 horrible girl player. So I was like, you know what, let's go 620 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.400 out on the limb and launch, you know, our first ladies division of 621 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.360 girls ten through thirteen. So we've got a good talent, spread, a 622 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.760 good age friend. Um, we've got some first timers, we've got the 623 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.400 girls that are obviously more skilled in advance. It's going to be a lot 624 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.800 of fun. And I told the girl that you guys are part of the 625 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.280 first year team, our first year in league. And I said, you 626 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.440 guys to get a chance to be historically the first year we've done a girls 627 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.079 division. I'm sure it'll get stronger and bigger and better every year from now. 628 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.360 When you when you're doing all this, are you are you seeing that 629 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.039 you know, youth basketball in Tucson, Uh, you know, is you 630 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.360 know getting really good? I mean you've got kids coming out. You know, 631 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.119 it's probably not Chicago, It's probably not you know some of these other 632 00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.360 places. That's sort of hotbeds. But how do you see the youth talent 633 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.559 improving here and how much of a part of that is what you're doing well. 634 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:02.480 I think Tucson has a ton of youth talent. What I've noticed is 635 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:08.199 because two Sign it's so big, it does come down to resources. The 636 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:14.079 majority of the kids, middle school aged kids, whether it's the South side 637 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.480 or the West side or the far north side. The kids that play in 638 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.079 our league over at the Gretlin School primarily are the kids who can get arrived 639 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.719 there. And that doesn't sound like much, but when you really think about 640 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.440 it, it's huge because there's a number there's numbers of kids who just can't 641 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.320 get that far over to the gym. So that's something that I me and 642 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:39.800 my staff were talking about the other day, like resources, having parents who 643 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:45.559 have the free time to drive law pick you up, your ability to get 644 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.840 two things determine the talent until two Sign is moted the talent And by no 645 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.480 means does my league represent all the talent that's in the two Side. There's 646 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.880 a lot of kids that unfortunately still can't get there. And we're working on 647 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.840 those type of solutions too, so we can try to get those kids over 648 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.440 to the gym. Yeah, well nights, Okay, we have a lot 649 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.639 of time left. But I wanted to ask you, how do people get 650 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.360 more involved? Now? Who do they find you? The website? Yea 651 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.519 reach out to me on the website. It's two s spl dot com. 652 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.800 If they go there my emails there, you can cheat the email and hopefully 653 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:23.760 we can connect. This league has survived because there are so many good business 654 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.800 people and Two Signs who don't mind donating a little money to help them leave. 655 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.320 And they have been with us since, you know, for the half 656 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.239 nineteen years. I have a group of friends that are known for a long 657 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.679 time, and then I just friends because they're sponsors. They literally come down 658 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:43.880 to the gym and they have a great time with us. And so it's 659 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.679 the two sent them approbly for a reason, because I want all the two 660 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.079 song to be a part of it. No matter what your business, no 661 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.760 matter what side of town you live on. We want everybody in that gym 662 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:59.960 having fun during summer and some of the best basketball. Well the basketball knows 663 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.840 because the kids now, but back in the day you had you had much 664 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.360 or must watch basketball. When the guys from the UVA came back with the 665 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:12.280 X guy, the Jts, the Richards would come back and destroy some of 666 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.840 the guys that were on the team. Now you had, you had a 667 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:16.719 lot of fun. Tell me you didn't. Oh, man, you know, 668 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.559 it's an unbelievable thing. It is almost too good to be true when 669 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.559 you talk about it and you think about what was actually taking place with current 670 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:29.159 wildcasts playing against former wildcat mixed in with the best guys in the city. 671 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.239 I mean, there were some great games, tons of NBA players, I 672 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.320 mean, standing room owning crowd. I mean, those those first years of 673 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.320 the Pro league were magical, and now everything's so much more developed. NBA 674 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.119 guys don't play summer league basketball anymore. They're too valuable, they make too 675 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.840 much money. Even college accolgue, unless you're talking about a few handful of 676 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:57.039 proms. College accoletes don't play pickup ball in the summertime much anymore either. 677 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.559 So you think has changed so much in two thousand and four, two thousand 678 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:06.000 and fives m But you're right, those glory games were unbelievable. Anything about 679 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.599 the talent we had on the floor and the way the league was the structured 680 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.519 back then. Yeah, okay, just and maybe can you review. Having 681 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.199 you probably saw maybe fifty basketball games this year. What a crazy, crazy 682 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:22.840 season we saw. You know, it was a crazy season. And we're 683 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.320 talking about the Wildcats correct, correct and natural nationally, you know, with 684 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.400 what the Final four wound up being and all that stuff. Well, the 685 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:37.639 one thing that I noticed is not enough people pay attention to the transfer portal, 686 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.719 and a lot of people are driven are almost are guilty of it. 687 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.239 We follow the narratives delivered on Fox, ESPN and so on, and suport 688 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.679 and the blue blood still get all the games on national TV. They're the 689 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.679 ones that gets put in everyone's face about the season, and then everybody goes 690 00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.320 to sell out their bracket based on what they've been shown. All of a 691 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.400 sudden, Miami's been the final four as they used in the Final Four. 692 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:10.159 I mean, it's the narrative, doesn't reality, and that's always been March 693 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.679 madness. But this year was really crazy because I don't think anybody had those 694 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:21.840 number one to lose any Stow Arizona, get Penson. I mean, it's 695 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.599 not possible to watch all two hundred and something Division one programs and know how 696 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.960 to sell up your bracket correctly. But yeah, you're right, this year 697 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:34.199 was ridiculous because so much talent had shifted. The one consecutive thing was, 698 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:39.719 the one consistent thing was the successful teams had upperclassmen. That's never been to 699 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.480 change. If you gotta win four or five six games in a row, 700 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.960 you can't do it with superstar freshman. They got one foot in the NBA 701 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.760 already. They're not focused, they're not going to pliny. They don't know 702 00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.239 how to desfend. You can throw jump defenses at them and shut them down 703 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:58.639 for a game. You can't gamble on the guys that have the most notoriety. 704 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.519 You gotta go with guys you know how to execute the game plan, 705 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.639 and every culture call you that's upper classing. Yeah, and maybe finally if 706 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.679 you have and maybe finally, uh Corey m oh, you have a So 707 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:14.239 they lose in the first round. You mentioned that with Princeton. You went 708 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.239 through two of these things, I think in ninety three and then ninety five. 709 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.639 Did it this year it seems like it diminished the whole year. Everybody's 710 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.280 pissed. Yeah, yeah, give reasons, blah blah blah. In ninety 711 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.880 three when it happened, because you guys were very good, and then ninety 712 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.400 five. You know JB gets hurt, blah blah blah. Did it take 713 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:35.039 away from the success of the season. Unfortunately, Arizona is always going to 714 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.440 be a program they measure by the postseason. I remember we thought they were 715 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.320 going to ride in the streets the year that the street was broken. We 716 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.039 didn't make the postseason. Um, that's just the nature of the beast. 717 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:52.159 And you can't sit here and complain about that but enjoy sold out home games 718 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.239 when other teams in the conference can't even get three thousand people in the same 719 00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.800 So you gotta take the good with the bad. Yeah, Rizona will always 720 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:06.159 be judged by the postseason, but Arizona basketball will always remain popular for people 721 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.920 who too far to care about it. They're gonna come to every game. 722 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.880 It don't matter who Arizona's playing. The gym is going to be passed. 723 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.119 So yeah, you know that you're it can go back for your in the 724 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:21.039 tournaments. The thing about Arizona basketball in our day one, when we got 725 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.159 bounced in the first round, those groups, that's how the seiors went out 726 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.840 and the rest of the guys on the team are like, man, I 727 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:32.400 don't want that to be my senior year, So that was our motivating factors, 728 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.280 bouncing back from Santa Clair has then getting to the finer fuller the following 729 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.519 year, you know, you know, game and graduated and it was like 730 00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.079 okay, now froinally our turns along the show. So you have this ownership 731 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.559 of each season to what you hope with Arizona this year is the guy that 732 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:55.400 are remaining Hella Omar, they take ownership and want revenge for what happened in 733 00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.360 the past year. You know that's what you really want. Um, you 734 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.159 want your guys that are still with the pro ram to have a chip on 735 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.400 their shoulder and do everything to get back to that first round game and then 736 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.440 have a good run in next year's turn to me. Yeah, okay, 737 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.760 Corey, thanks a bunch. We're gonna share your stuff from the from the 738 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.400 league right on our page. We'll just gonna be more mentions starts it. 739 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:22.239 We're going to get like twenty seconds when is the start Jen third in the 740 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.360 first game. We've had our tryouts. But we can still have kids. 741 00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.599 He definitely had a lot more girls to the reading stuff. You've got young 742 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.840 girls that I want to let him know. Thank you. Hey, thanks 743 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.119 a whole bunch or appreciate you, appreciate your time. Harry Williams from you. 744 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.239 Big guy does a lot for the community, a good stuff and it's 745 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.719 great that he did. You know, he talked about, you know, 746 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.800 how he grew up in Chicago, what he's doing this here, you know, 747 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.719 to be to understand how meaningful it is to have a guy like Corey 748 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.719 Williams doing what he felt he needed, sure in Chicago, but he's he 749 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:53.559 brings it here and he has stayed here to sure. Did you go those 750 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.199 games back in the day. I want a few of the love you you 751 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.800 know. Uh, the Gregary School is were my going to school and stuff. 752 00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.280 It was always a blast, crazy competition. All right, man, 753 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.320 Steve, I'm glad you're back. I mean to appreciate, appreciate the fact 754 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:13.719 that you came back, and I'm gonna go party. Tend to stick around 755 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.400 for a while. Okay, Hey, thanks for being here today, everybody. 756 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.159 We'll be back tomorrow. You have a great evening.