Deborah, with her thirty years of being an entrepreneur and creating over seven companies,
knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that
decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself
and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited
possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that
only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs
deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know, the
stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success.
Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z
to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be
blown away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. I am so
excited. Yes, you are recognizing a different environment for the show today.
Welcome listeners and viewers to Mission Accepted cast. We are actually in my beautiful
downtown living room and being Couver Canada with Chloe Morgan, international DJ and incredible
singer. You're gonna hear more from her today. But I just want to
say thank you because our show is because you guys do what you want to
do and what you need to do, and that is share, follow comment.
I love the comments that come in. So thank you very much for
being dedicated. You know that we talk to people that are on a mission,
and predominantly I know that you're on a mission too, because you wouldn't
be here just laughing at us having a good time with our trials and tribulations
of making our way, making our passion, our mission. So thank you
for joining and thank you for joining the show today. Thank you for having
me. Absolutely I love it. You know what I was thinking this morning
when I was getting ready, because that's what we do the best. I
always say the best times are in front of my mirror. And I was
thinking about how we met, and I was thinking, you know, there's
one thing about there's one thing about this whole new world of collaboration. It's
like, you got to meet, you gotta meet. I mean, even
when you were here today, I'm like, oh my gosh, you got
to meet deep you know what I mean, because you guys are just in
the same field and you know that you vibrate the same that there's you know,
a shared experience to be had, and I just I just love this
whole thing. And I really literally was just on a friend's page and I
was like, she popped out at me, you know, you popped out
at me. And I kind of clicked through and I was like, who's
this? This is a local girl that I do not power boating, power
of tagging, the power of tagging. But I just happened to be on
someone's page. I mean, and here's the thing, I don't have a
lot of time, Like, I'm not a by nature school person. Yeah,
it was someone that had made a comment, Oh, they wanted me
to check out their new book, and so I was like, okay,
well I want to go check out who they are, and you know,
into like their friends and I was like, who's this girl? Right,
And then I'm like, this girl's local and here we are, so welcome
to mission accepted and welcome into my life. Yeah, well thank you.
I mean, And you know, I just really appreciate people like you t
because I think a lot of like people these days, they're afraid to make
those connections, they're afraid to like take those steps. And I think we're
very like like mind in that way. We don't let fear kind of like
stop us, you know, from making those connections. So I really really
appreciated you reaching out and I was like, this one's really cool, you
know, and you right away we're like, I'm going to have you part
of what we're doing. So, yeah, that's really really awesome. Now
that's a good point because I think that there's different times in our life.
I think as we get wiser, I'll just use the word wiser, we
kind of get braver. I know. I was listening to and careless.
Yeah, careless about what people think. Yeah, absolutely, and you're like
reach out, don't reach out and not taking it personal, not taking it
personal, right. We've got so much going on in our lives. There's
so much going on in our lives that if someone sends us something, I'm
sure you and I both do our best to get back, even if it's
like, hey, super busy right now and call me at the end of
June when my project's over or whatever it is, and then call back at
the end of June, like people have things going on, and just not
taking it personal, right and recognizing that humans are humans. So absolutely yeah.
I think that's probably one of the biggest lessons is not taking things personally
because it's not about you, you know, it's always about them. It's
like what they're doing, what they're struggling with. And the thing is one
thing I heard this a long time ago or maybe a few years back,
was people are literally thinking about themselves. They like they're worried about what they're
doing, how they're coming across, Like they're thinking, how was I in
this situation? They're not thinking and we're the ones thinking, like how was
I? What are they thinking about? As soon as you get past that
and you're like moving forward like that, you can't And I think in like
you can't get stuck in any type of situation. You just got to like
let things kind of move, you know, and just kind of you've got
to go through things and like not hold onto to things. You know.
We can't be in the past or too much in the future. We can
have those goals, dreams and aspirationations. But I think it's really something powerful
about literally being present and that is actually where the magic, the miracles,
all the beautiful stuff happens is in this very present moment, which is really
interesting because you know, I'm a little bit of a music fan and for
me, people feel love bit, love bit, and even my chapter in
the book, which of course you're in the book, and we're so grateful
for you being in the book, and you're doing so much more around the
two sixty two project, which we'll dig into and a little bit. But
you know, on my chapter, I wrote music as my therapist. And
the reason why I did that is because music does exactly that, right,
It like brings me in for some reason. Music just takes everything out of
my brain and I just hear the lyrics, and I know. Sometimes it's
interesting because my son will go that he hears the beat, right, He's
just like the beat, and I'm like, dude, and we've all done
it. I'm like, that's not the that's not the line. He's like,
really, I'm like, no, I hear the words, he hears
the beat. But even this morning, right this morning, I was like
getting ready. I just came through a big project, and I'm like,
you know, getting excited for you to come today, and I'm like,
I need to ground myself, and I stuck on super Tramp and I'm like
and I just heard the words and it brought me into today. I wasn't
really thinking about anything else of it today and well, we're going to get
done today. But so interesting that we talk about being in the moments.
Music for me is it and you're all about music. So let's dig into
that a little bit, because when I heard your music, I was like,
you absolutely need to be in the project or the project we're talking about,
as you all know, is the two sixty two book and the Stand
Up, Speak Up Summits, which is all about standing up, speaking up
and showing up. Yeah, and we're so fortunate that you're going to be
singing. You're gonna be singing at the advantage. You're going to be singing
at Ocean. It's a big public launch at the Biltmore and next year right
the weekend before Valentine's and so bring that love. You're gonna bring the love
what it is, right, Yeah, And that's what I learned about music
is actually, you know from some of that sheally the Motown greats, I've
been privileged to be able to like work with actually actually can call my family
now like Shaka Khan. She just saw Shaka Kana when I was in Los
Angeles, a month or so ago, and that was incredible, you know,
and just meeting you know, and being able to like steward those relationships.
Actually sorry, not mother, her sister is like my mother. She's
like a second mother to me. And so she's been amazing when it comes
to like counsel mentorship, you know, within the industry. But music,
what I learned from Linda McCrary actually, who's sung with people, you know,
lots of people in the gospel, you know, community of music,
like some of the greats, like she talked with Billy Graham. Anyway,
she said to me, she's like, you know, music has got to
be sung from the heart. Yes, you know, and that is where
the greatest music really comes from. And so when we listen to music that
has more of a negative sort of like you know, vibe, and I
don't want to like sort of pinpoint genres. But you know, it's not
it's not a secret that hip hop, you know, actually, when hip
hop was created, it came from like that love, loving the community,
building relationships. It was like it came actually from that love vibration. But
as time has gone on, the messages change. I think we can all
agree with that. In hip hop music right, and so it's it's brought
a lot of like negativity where there is that wasn't what it was about in
the in like originally what hip hop was about. It was like, you
know, bringing love to the community and helping one another and all those things.
And so but that is really where music, I believe, really needs
to come back to. And I think artists really need to tap in to
that place of you know, love within themselves because it really starts from the
journey starts from within. You can't find it externally. It's like no man
or person or baby, no one is going to make bring that love to
you. You know that only you can really find deep within. And I
think that that's such a journey, Like what where you just talked about It
is such a journey, But I was the love within is such a journey.
And I think by nature we do get external like we do feel love
to hear or pulled in a certain direction, and it helps build on that.
But I think as you have a few days back to back on this
gorgeous planet of ours, that you start to realize that there's times where you
need to deep deep, and you need to pull it from yourself. You
need to love yourself because look at no one, no one, no one,
No matter how much money, how much success, how much experience,
how much this, how much that, no one gets to sidestep the journey
of self love. No one also gets to sidestep the journey of things that
happen. They're out of control, the out of control things that happen.
Like we get our hearts broken no matter how good we are in our craft
or what it is that we do, no matter how great projects that we
do, Like, we have these experiences where our heart gets dinged, our
heart gets broken. You know, we go to work one day in a
job that we absolutely love and the company's closing. We all have those dings,
right, and then that's what kind of force us to have that conversation
inside which I'm a huge believer in journaling. But look, you've had a
really interesting journey, and let's talk a little bit about how you came upon
singing. I know when I first met you, you're like, yeah,
you know, I was an a group end in London and doing this and
doing that, And I'm like, wow, you've had a really a varied
path, as many of us have. And the endurance. I mean our
show, we talk a lot about the mission. It's not I don't think
it's so much about I need to do this, I'm so excited. It's
about seeing that five years later. It's about the mission and the journey that
it takes you on. So maybe share with us, because yeah, so
I mean I did share with you obviously that I was in a girl group,
girl band, we were starting to Warner Brothers. But it actually my
journey started a long time before that. I would say I've been on the
stage since I was about four, you know. I started doing, you
know, with dancing at ballet and tap and then I was playing like a
violin from like I think probably five or six something like that, but singing
as long as I can remember, you know, And I always knew.
I was like, this is what I'm going to do, Like I always
have known that. It's never been a point in my journey that I've been
like, what am I here to do? I've never been that person.
I've always known exactly what I was here to do. And I think obviously,
like as time goes on, it does shape a little bit different,
and I think I think what I've learned throughout the journey is it is not
really about me, It's really about other people. It's about how we can
help this planet and how we can yeah, just stew it better relationships and
how is our gift serving somebody else? And I think that that's where the
shift has been from like self to self less, and that's I think as
the journey goes on, it should really become more and more selfless, right
because I listened to something of it the other day and this guy was saying,
when you become selfless, you're not thinking about yourself anymore. You're not.
You're not, so therefore fear is non existent. You're not worried.
You're not worried about like when's my next job? And like how when am
I how am I going to pay for this? And like you're not thinking
about all those things because you're thinking about other people. You're thinking about serving,
so you're not You're you kind of come out of that space of fear
and into yes, selflessness. So but yeah, the journey, but you
know started from when I was four, and you know, I've been on
Like I said, I've been on stage from a very very young age,
and I you know, I got scholarships into I was doing all of this
all throughout school, Like when school was done, I was then going and
doing more classes like after school, you know, singing classes, dance classes,
acting class, all of it. And so I was kind of definitely
like groomed as those from like a young age. And then I ended up
getting a scholarship into like one of the top stage schools in London, and
I trained there for two years and then my mom was like, there's this
audition that's coming up. You should go for it. And I was like,
Mom, it's for a girl group. I don't want to be in
a group. I don't want this. I'm a solilo answer. It's like
that's not what I want to do. But anyway, she convinced me to
go. I was in a very low point actually at that time because he
was like a father to me. My uncle passed away. I'd seen him
literally every single day of my life and the day was born. He invested
in me my career. He would take me to all my singing classes and
dance classes, like we would walk together and like I was always with him.
And then he ended up having a it was an aniurysm, and like
everything just you know, like kidney failure. Like everything just happened in one
day, and it was like my whole world just like blacked out, and
I went into like some serious depression I started developing. And I mean it
was before that I started developing an eating disorder, because my mum has already
gone through at this point, like two divorces, you know, and I
was sexually abused as a child and like things. You know, that added
to the place of me wanting to control something right, And when my uncle
passed away, it was like the thing I just held onto. I was
like with this thing, yeah, I mean it it served me. Not
in a good way obviously, but it served me in the sense of like
some type of comfort, something I could control, you know, where everything
was out of control, I was able to grasp onto something. And you
know, I obviously went on that journey, which was like over a decade
long journey of trying to come out of like that place of depression, having
an eating disorder, all those things and everything that ties ties around that problem.
Because when you have a problem like that, your whole world revolves around
it, you know, like any addiction, it always revolves around that one
thing. Because again it's not about being it's about thinking about yourself again,
right. And actually it was interesting I was talking to at that time when
I was really struggling. I was talking to a pastor and he said,
you know, there's he was explaining about like me, like the condition emy
and I don't want to obviously like you know, but he was saying,
because obviously everybody's got their struggles and some of it can be psychological. Some
of it is stuff we can't control. So I'm no judgments or anything in
that sense, but he was saying, think of the word me. He
said, it's me, right, it's thinking about you. He said,
when you take that focus off of you and place it on something else,
that will really really help you. And that was something that did speak to
me, you know, and like little pieces obviously that have kind of formed
the picture to healing and wholeness. But yeah, and then from then,
after my uncle passed away, I was in that place of depression. Went
for this TV show that my mom was like, you got to go do
this. I was like, and I ended up getting through, and I
ended up getting keep getting through the like each stage and I'm like, Okay,
this is getting serious, you know, and then I ended up making
it to the live shows and making it to the finals, and I was
like a couple of girls out of getting into the actual band. And then
we ended up getting signed. The girls that didn't get into the group,
but we got signed, oh okay, and then from there, you know,
that was like a year and a half. I think I was with
the man, you know, just it didn't work out different. I think
it's really difficult putting a group of girls together, you know, because you
have different ideas and visions. And I think, honestly, like really successful
bands, you have to know your role, right, people don't know their
role. All kinds of problems can stem from that in any business. I
think, in any in any cooperative car, you're doing a project of people
don't know where they start and where they stop. Yeah, absolutely, because
then it's like, yeah, but everyone's treading on everyone's yeah, and then
everyone's like trying to fight for their autonomy. Yeah right, So yeah,
I think any any scenario, but absolutely, particularly I think when you're in
a media form, you know, like it's a media form and everyone has
trained for that spot. So even I don't know the other girls, but
if you were mostly solo artists coming together who are used to having presents,
right then, knowing that line that would be yeah, there definitely would be
a challenge. Well, we know some of the bands make it, and
some bands know for all sorts of reasons, right yeah, And I think
so after I left that experience, then I took like ten years of still
you know, trying to do what I was doing, but not being like
I wasn't a full time artist. I was like, you know, having
to work all these other go back to normal job. Yeah. I was
like I got to leave the country because I'm like everybody knows me because I've
been on this big TV show. I couldn't get a normal job. Like
I'd go out. People were like you hear that girl from the glob and
I was like, I'm working in a restaurant right now, Like this is
not working. And thankfully, like at the time I had, we filmed
a video in Vancouver. That's what brought me here originally, and I met
somebody on set and so I ended up moving out here, you know,
being with this person. It didn't work out, but it was kind of
like I would say, when I came out here, it was like I
took that time to like heal, you know, just really heal and kind
of grow a bit as an artist too. And actually what ended up happening,
and this is how the whole eating disort of sort of wrapped up,
was my so my second father, who married my mom. He adopted me
and my brother and had two more children with my mom. He ended up
having cancer and passing away, and I went back to see him, and
I was like, and we had actually fallen out for a few years and
then we'd sort of reconciled, and then suddenly he was like gonna die of
cancer. So I went back there obviously to spend time with him, and
I was in shock, like I could not believe what I was looking at,
Like I'd never seen anyone that thin as well in the flesh. And
I looked him and thought to myself, like, he can't help what's happening
to him, but I can help what's happening to me, you know,
And I think that when he passed away, it was like I think,
I was like, I can't live with this anymore. I can't like this
person had no control, you know, them passing away, and I was
desperately trying to like not pass away, but yet I have control. I'm
slowly killing myself with this problem, right, And so that was it for
me. It was like I actually ended up going up for prayer because I
was always losing my voice. I ended up going for prayer and the pastor
prayed for me. And even though I didn't get my voice back straight away,
the bolimia like it was like it was cute in that very moment.
And I've been trying and working on it for years, you know, I
was in counseling like years before that, you know, So it was definitely
a journey. It doesn't it can suddenly happen overnight, but it's usually like
a journey to kind of get there. And so yeah, from that moment,
it was like I just started. Really I was like, that's it
now, like I've got anything holding me back. I'm going to go to
Los Angeles. I'm going to you know. And then I was like because
I wasn't really dealing with my inner trauma, so instead I was like picking
up marijuana and other drugs and like trying to fill that gap now that the
eating disorder wasn't feeling. And then eventually like it just came to a head,
right. It was like I finally hit my like biggest rock bottom,
you know. In twenty fourteen, it was like my life was a complete
mess. I had lost everything, went back to the UK with literally a
suitcase full of clothes to my name. I'd lost everything, the home that
I'd built, everything, and went back home and was like I got to
do something in my life like this is I was suicide or I did not
want to live because it was like everything was just a disaster, and I
ended up reconnecting, reconnecting with God. At that time, I was actually
prayed for. It was one of the most powerful prayers I think I've ever
Like people at about ten people lay hands on me and I was literally like
shaking, like to a point that I was like like there's some stuff like
this like being broken off with me right now, this is like insane.
But it was from that moment that I was like, Okay, I got
to live my life for God now, like on a serious level, you
know, because I've made my connection with God like years and years and years
before that. Anyways, but you know, the walk isn't a straight walk
like this at times. But but this is this is the mark. I
think that was like, Okay, I'm going to be serious now. I
need to be serious because my life is like I don't want to live anymore.
So it was that year of healing and like going to everything that you
possibly think that I would need to go to to receive healing. I was
there at it like deliverance ministries, Bible studies, like counseling, like whatever
you could think of. I was there. I was literally like I'm going
to die. Yeah, I don't want to live anymore. I was literally
that low. But in that year, I learned to DJ, and yeah,
I learned to DJ, and even after two months of learning to du
j, I started approaching clubs and I was like, hey, you know
DJ from Canada, like I did not know what. I was like,
yeah, DJ from Canada, and they were like, oh, this girl
seems like you know, and of course they gave me like opportunities. But
then they're like she could have been doing this either just like not that great
or like she can't have been doing this this long, but so obviously it
takes time to get you know, doing everything. And it was literally one
year after I was prayed for I came back to Canada and my career took
off here. Like I've never worked another job since twenty twenty fifteen. Okay,
wow, twenty fifteen, I've been full time back in the music industry.
So if you take that back, I mean you said twenty fourteen you
went home with the suitcase and you were like, you know, emancipated.
It sounds like you were pretty you know, empty on the inside and definitely
and then by twenty fifteen that's quite a you know, that's quite a short
span when you think about recovery, when you think about recovery and getting yourself
back up, and good for you for walking in and like I can DJ,
I got this. I'm from Canada. So they're like, well,
we don't really have we can't really resumeate that because it's in every country.
But it reminds me of virtual friends and when he's like just say yes and
figure like, say yes and figure it out afterwards, right, So it's
experienced. Yeah, yeah, and I think you know, I'm like definitely
of an experienced type of person, Like I'm one of those people You've just
got to throw me into it and I'm gonna figure it out. Yeah.
Wow, that's quite a story, thank you. There's a lot of transparency
in there, you know, there's a lot of vulnerability and transparency. And
I know I've been talking to a lot of women lately and there's about sharing.
Does it help my career? Does it hinder my career? Are people
going to be drawn towards me because now I'm standing in this direction versus that
direction? Is it like even you know, people that have had abuse in
their background, or people that have had addiction in their background, or people
that have had had had had had had and they get to a place in
their life where like, Okay, I'm ready to share it or I never
want to share it. Did you go through any of that? I mean,
you just you just shared with us. Thank you so kindly, because
you know you're a beacon, right, so beacons tend to go you know,
I know my message isn't going to just maybe heal one person, It's
going to heal a lot of people. Did you go through any of that
that? You know? The power of your testimony, The power of your
testimony is like is powerful, you know, And if my story can help
somebody else, than I won you know what I mean, I already won
you know I already won, and so for me to be able to share
this experience, I do really believe though, I think you've got to be
on the other side with a lot of it. Otherwise you could be sharing
things that you're not necessarily through yet and could still be a trigger factor,
like you know, something that can set you back. So, you know,
I've always been quite you know, I've always been a very honest type
of person. I definitely went through when I was like doing drugs and all
that. I went through a time of completely like silencing myself and being more
like you know, hush hush, that wouldn't open up. But I think
it was like I was just trying to hide. It was trying to hide,
and I was being silenced as well for sure, like you know,
by fear and all kinds of stuff that was going on. But I definitely,
you know, as I shared more of my experience, it actually it
creates freedom because it allows you to be free to be able to share it.
It's like the moment that you break silence, right, It's that she
is freeing, yes, And I think the transparency can also give somebody else
freedom. It can you know, when somebody else is like they're like wow,
Like if she can do it, I can do it. Like if
she can be honest, then I can open up, I can share.
So I really hope that, you know, my message inspires people that way
to you know, obviously work on the things that they get to work on
to help to overcome, but to be able to share so it can help
somebody else. It's like your your pain is somebody else's game. Your mess
is your message. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I know we're
coming close to time. So a couple of things quickly share with that I
have I know, right, I have a couple of questions I want to
ask you that are kind of off. And there's one question I have to
ask you because it's just it's what we do in the show. But so
tell us, okay, where now, what's going on? How can we
hear you? How can we this? Like, tell us what's going on
for you now? And would you planning this? Yeah? Well I'm becoming
an author, yes, I know, international best selling art there soon to
be. Oh, she decided how to do just you know, go in.
She's in a book of two hundred and sixty two women of Gunpchen creative
and Media and entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs and women of history, which is a little
secret and surprise. Yeah, I'm still for bringing me into this. It's
you know, it's a new avenue. It's it's amazing. You know.
I'm really really thankful for all the beautiful blessings and opportunities that are coming up,
you know. So I'm actually going to be just I'm creating a master
class where I'm going to be able to share my gift and like lead other
people to like learn to DJ and performance. So that's one of my projects.
And she's a lot better at DJing now, just f y Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely from the beginning. Yeah, there's
been a huge and I did get some proper training. I did train myself,
you know, I trained my but then I was like, I need
to like level up here, and I'm always about leveling up. Yeah.
So I'm going to be releasing a lot of music this year. I already
started releasing music last year and the year before actually, but there's gonna be
a lot of music coming out this year. So I'm working with a team
in Houston. I'm actually managed by my producer slash manager in Houston. Amazing.
They work with like so many incredible mainstream artists, and like they took
me on and you know, it's been amazing them developing me and what I'm
doing in my music. And it's beautiful because my music now that I'm writing
with them, tells a bit more of my story. It's a bit more,
you know, like in detail of you know, even like my relationship
with my uncle. I've got a song about him that's like my own.
And what makes it so universal is it brings the audience into the song.
It's super cool. It's like one that you definitely here at a festival,
like you can actually we created it so even at the end of the song,
it sounds like a crowd is singing. It's so cool. That is
very cool. So, yeah, lots of new music is coming out this
year. My Masterclass, I'm really excited about that. I'm actually going to
be starting a clothing line too, very cool. Yeah, I'm working with
another brand and we're doing like a pop up line. So We've got like
things happening for that events this year. We're going to be releasing that this
year. I'm also going to be starting a makeup line. I'm not giving
you all giving it all you but mainly it's all going to be around my
music. So even like with my clothing, like it's all going to be
music related, going to be bringing in like lyrical content and just uplifting,
inspiring messages, you know, because you know, I was saying to you,
I think that I'm here to be. I think my messages. I'm
an overcomer, you know, Like that's been the story, that's been the
threat cup anything that you throw at me, I'm going to overcome that situation.
You know, I've gone through so much, but that has been like
the kind of the the Yeah, that's kind of tie the whole thing is
that I've been able to really overcome every situation and that has definitely got to
come through in the music as well. So yeah, it's gonna be I'm
just trying to think of anything else. I mean, there's a lot like
events, lots of events coming well, We've got We've got I want to
make sure that you're traveling. Yeah, June six, June six and Vancouver
at Billies you're gonna be spinning and singing built more for us on the eve
of February as well, and we're gonna be giving everyone in the show twenty
twenty five. Yeah, so we get our twenty twenty four and twenty twenty
five. So and you know what else during the year. Oh yeah,
absolutely a lot of great things. And I know that we've got everything in
the show. Now where to find Jill In case someone's listening as they're driving
right now pull over before you do this and wants to look you up,
please just tell them your website and then I've got one last question for you.
Absolutely, so you can find me at chloemorgan music dot com and all
of my social handles on there. Mainly my music platforms is Chloe Morgan Live,
One Word and Instagram because everybody's on Instagram. It's Chloe Morgan Official.
Absolutely. Okay. Look, so let's shift gears a little bit. Yes,
two completely different questions, and one you're gonna go that's not completely different,
but it is when you take you out of your world of music and
put you into the world of music, okay. But one is business aside,
something we don't know about you or something like something on your bucket list,
like just just a bucket list, like you know, we're big believers
in what you say about comes about And here's the interesting thing, right you
want something, you're looking for something like right now, I am Tracy Chapman
on my screen saver because I want you to come participate in this party that
we're doing. You know these hundreds, what do we got like four thousand
women that have come to the summits three million? And so I got Tracy
Chapman's on my phone. So my big ask of the world right now is
get that girl on my phone. Okay, So a bucket list, something
that you want right now? S throw it out there because you never know,
like you never know, Oh, could it be something in the career
or something just yeah, I mean a bucket list, like if you look
at your treasure maps or your journals or a long term it could be something
fifteen years from now, it could be personal, it could be anything.
Just something on your bucket list. Well this side, I mean I would
say instantly like at all, like I want to at the world for sure,
that's definitely I think probably a goal, but I think on bucket list,
well goal bucket list. I want to do an autobiography. Okay,
okay, my life? Nice? Yeah, that is nice. Nice?
Okay, Well I kind of know this person in books that could probably help
you with that. Yes, I don't know, but it's that kind of
thing, right, I don't know us there right, So it's and that's
amazing that it's like it plants seeds, and I believe in that. And
so this is a question that we ask everyone, even if you're in the
field, and sometimes it gets a little tougher. Sometimes you know right away.
So look, the last question we asked on our show is if you
are on your way to a desert island, you and you you got this
nice suitcase, one suitcase, and you could slide an album in there other
than yours, and you know you're where you're going, there's a record player.
Obviously it's a desert island. Every doesnert island has a record player.
And you could only take one album with you. What could you not imagine
not ever listening to for the rest of your days? I don't, I
mean, and it can't be a soundtrack, and it can't be like your
playlist, like I mean, I would naturally say, I would naturally say
I love gospel music. Yeah, and I feel like gospel music would carry
you need to the end of my days, Like I mean, I would
love to say Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston. I could listen to them,
yeah, all the time, Like I just they're my two. I would
say that my two one of my two favorite artists on the planet. But
I think, you know, for me to know that I'm going to be
okay, I would have to listen to like a gospel album. I don't
know necessarily would just be good. I probably have to create the album my
favorite, your favorite, Okay, you're luck at the playlist? Yeah,
Oh my gosh, Like there's so much more. Even though we shared so
much today, there's so much more that we're going to dig into. And
I know this will not be the last time that we're sitting across in a
show, a TV show, a podcast show, or radio show, whatever
it is that we're going to be doing. Thank you so much for coming
today, Thank you so much for sharing the way that you did. So
glad that we met. And that's that's what happens. And you know what,
I think it's a really prime example of what happens when you stay on
the mission. Like I always say to people, there's a great Scottish proverb.
But I don't know why I'm pulling it up today. But it's like,
until you say yes, all unforeseen does not come into play. So
when you say yes, then doors open that would never have done. And
that's why, you know, there's people that are like, I don't know
if I can afford to do this, and not know if I can afford
to do that, and they're like, oh, you know, it costs.
I don't know. Just give an example. It costs like a thousand
dollars to do this thing, and I really want to do it for my
business and my career or my passion or whatever. And I'm like, if
you walked out the door today and you needed to buy four tires for your
car because for some reason, they're all you know, they're all flat,
they're all done so much, slash them or whatever, would you find one
thousand dollars? They're like yeah, And I'm like you can't, we can.
So I think until you say yes and push yourself through what's going on
over here, Da da da da, then the unforeseen happens. And I
meet you, and you meet me and you want to publish a book and
I get you in a book and who knew? Like who knew? I'm
sure you wanted an autobiography before you met me, right, you know.
And I think just to add to that stay just to jump on the pandwagon,
that is also being open, not necessary that it has to be exactly
how you think it should be, you know, just being open to it
possibly being a different way, because sometimes it's like we get we we want
to get to a goal, right, but sometimes it's not the way that
we think we're going to get to that goal. You know. Sometimes God,
I mean, God acts in mysterious ways, right, And I think
from what I've learned, is just like the open to you know, the
possibility of getting their way getting there a different way, because God knows all
the shortcuts, you know. I mean I will say a lot of it
is doing the work, like definitely, like there's something to be said about
you know. I think my generation, your generation, we came from work,
actually work ethic, I mean, to learn with it, you know
what I'm talking about. And I think that we you know, I enjoy
the work. I enjoy it because that is gaining me experience is by doing
it, you know, and just being open. And I think for me,
I think that's where things have really shifted and more has opened up my
world. It is like it doesn't have to be exactly how I think it
should be, Like I'm going to open myself up and like and just as
example of that, you know, my my manager and producer, he's like,
he's like, Okay, we're going to do this. And at first
I kind of like struggled with a few ideas you had, and then I
was like, I just said to myself one day, I was like,
let it go, Like you've got this far, but this is as far
as you've got yourself, Like, let the professional maybe tell you what you
think you know, because you can't just depend on what you think, like,
we need like lots of other ideas and things coming in. And the
thing is, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, try again.
There's always tomorrow. I mean it's not guaranteed, but it's like there is
always usually another try another try, try another way. All right, Well
we are going to wrap up today. Thank you so much. Thank you
so much for being the great listeners and viewers. And I know you're gonna
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