WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:08.199 Deborah, with her thirty years of being an entrepreneur and creating over seven companies, 2 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.080 knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that 3 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:16.359 decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:20.280 and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited 5 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:25.280 possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.480 only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.479 deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know, the 8 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.759 stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. 9 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.320 Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.119 to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.439 blown away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. I am so 12 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.920 excited. Yes, you are recognizing a different environment for the show today. 13 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:02.840 Welcome listeners and viewers to Mission Accepted cast. We are actually in my beautiful 14 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:10.439 downtown living room and being Couver Canada with Chloe Morgan, international DJ and incredible 15 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.000 singer. You're gonna hear more from her today. But I just want to 16 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:17.159 say thank you because our show is because you guys do what you want to 17 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.439 do and what you need to do, and that is share, follow comment. 18 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.519 I love the comments that come in. So thank you very much for 19 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:26.879 being dedicated. You know that we talk to people that are on a mission, 20 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.239 and predominantly I know that you're on a mission too, because you wouldn't 21 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:36.159 be here just laughing at us having a good time with our trials and tribulations 22 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.840 of making our way, making our passion, our mission. So thank you 23 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.719 for joining and thank you for joining the show today. Thank you for having 24 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.920 me. Absolutely I love it. You know what I was thinking this morning 25 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.079 when I was getting ready, because that's what we do the best. I 26 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:52.439 always say the best times are in front of my mirror. And I was 27 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.840 thinking about how we met, and I was thinking, you know, there's 28 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.879 one thing about there's one thing about this whole new world of collaboration. It's 29 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:02.640 like, you got to meet, you gotta meet. I mean, even 30 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.239 when you were here today, I'm like, oh my gosh, you got 31 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.120 to meet deep you know what I mean, because you guys are just in 32 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.159 the same field and you know that you vibrate the same that there's you know, 33 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.199 a shared experience to be had, and I just I just love this 34 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.039 whole thing. And I really literally was just on a friend's page and I 35 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.719 was like, she popped out at me, you know, you popped out 36 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:24.960 at me. And I kind of clicked through and I was like, who's 37 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.520 this? This is a local girl that I do not power boating, power 38 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.280 of tagging, the power of tagging. But I just happened to be on 39 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.560 someone's page. I mean, and here's the thing, I don't have a 40 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.719 lot of time, Like, I'm not a by nature school person. Yeah, 41 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.599 it was someone that had made a comment, Oh, they wanted me 42 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.879 to check out their new book, and so I was like, okay, 43 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.199 well I want to go check out who they are, and you know, 44 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:49.319 into like their friends and I was like, who's this girl? Right, 45 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.000 And then I'm like, this girl's local and here we are, so welcome 46 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.520 to mission accepted and welcome into my life. Yeah, well thank you. 47 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:59.639 I mean, And you know, I just really appreciate people like you t 48 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.199 because I think a lot of like people these days, they're afraid to make 49 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:08.280 those connections, they're afraid to like take those steps. And I think we're 50 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.439 very like like mind in that way. We don't let fear kind of like 51 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.680 stop us, you know, from making those connections. So I really really 52 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.400 appreciated you reaching out and I was like, this one's really cool, you 53 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.439 know, and you right away we're like, I'm going to have you part 54 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.439 of what we're doing. So, yeah, that's really really awesome. Now 55 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.400 that's a good point because I think that there's different times in our life. 56 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.759 I think as we get wiser, I'll just use the word wiser, we 57 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.639 kind of get braver. I know. I was listening to and careless. 58 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.280 Yeah, careless about what people think. Yeah, absolutely, and you're like 59 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:46.240 reach out, don't reach out and not taking it personal, not taking it 60 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.199 personal, right. We've got so much going on in our lives. There's 61 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.240 so much going on in our lives that if someone sends us something, I'm 62 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.400 sure you and I both do our best to get back, even if it's 63 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.280 like, hey, super busy right now and call me at the end of 64 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.199 June when my project's over or whatever it is, and then call back at 65 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.840 the end of June, like people have things going on, and just not 66 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.719 taking it personal, right and recognizing that humans are humans. So absolutely yeah. 67 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:13.039 I think that's probably one of the biggest lessons is not taking things personally 68 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.920 because it's not about you, you know, it's always about them. It's 69 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.600 like what they're doing, what they're struggling with. And the thing is one 70 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:24.480 thing I heard this a long time ago or maybe a few years back, 71 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:30.240 was people are literally thinking about themselves. They like they're worried about what they're 72 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.319 doing, how they're coming across, Like they're thinking, how was I in 73 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.399 this situation? They're not thinking and we're the ones thinking, like how was 74 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:40.199 I? What are they thinking about? As soon as you get past that 75 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.040 and you're like moving forward like that, you can't And I think in like 76 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.480 you can't get stuck in any type of situation. You just got to like 77 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.920 let things kind of move, you know, and just kind of you've got 78 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:55.439 to go through things and like not hold onto to things. You know. 79 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.480 We can't be in the past or too much in the future. We can 80 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.839 have those goals, dreams and aspirationations. But I think it's really something powerful 81 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.959 about literally being present and that is actually where the magic, the miracles, 82 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:11.720 all the beautiful stuff happens is in this very present moment, which is really 83 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.519 interesting because you know, I'm a little bit of a music fan and for 84 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.480 me, people feel love bit, love bit, and even my chapter in 85 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.360 the book, which of course you're in the book, and we're so grateful 86 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.639 for you being in the book, and you're doing so much more around the 87 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.560 two sixty two project, which we'll dig into and a little bit. But 88 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:30.800 you know, on my chapter, I wrote music as my therapist. And 89 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.959 the reason why I did that is because music does exactly that, right, 90 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:38.759 It like brings me in for some reason. Music just takes everything out of 91 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.879 my brain and I just hear the lyrics, and I know. Sometimes it's 92 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.959 interesting because my son will go that he hears the beat, right, He's 93 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:47.800 just like the beat, and I'm like, dude, and we've all done 94 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:49.759 it. I'm like, that's not the that's not the line. He's like, 95 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.040 really, I'm like, no, I hear the words, he hears 96 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.560 the beat. But even this morning, right this morning, I was like 97 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.759 getting ready. I just came through a big project, and I'm like, 98 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:00.800 you know, getting excited for you to come today, and I'm like, 99 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:02.560 I need to ground myself, and I stuck on super Tramp and I'm like 100 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.639 and I just heard the words and it brought me into today. I wasn't 101 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.279 really thinking about anything else of it today and well, we're going to get 102 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.639 done today. But so interesting that we talk about being in the moments. 103 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.199 Music for me is it and you're all about music. So let's dig into 104 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.040 that a little bit, because when I heard your music, I was like, 105 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.959 you absolutely need to be in the project or the project we're talking about, 106 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:25.800 as you all know, is the two sixty two book and the Stand 107 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.279 Up, Speak Up Summits, which is all about standing up, speaking up 108 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.839 and showing up. Yeah, and we're so fortunate that you're going to be 109 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.120 singing. You're gonna be singing at the advantage. You're going to be singing 110 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:39.040 at Ocean. It's a big public launch at the Biltmore and next year right 111 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:45.199 the weekend before Valentine's and so bring that love. You're gonna bring the love 112 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.079 what it is, right, Yeah, And that's what I learned about music 113 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:53.319 is actually, you know from some of that sheally the Motown greats, I've 114 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.000 been privileged to be able to like work with actually actually can call my family 115 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.240 now like Shaka Khan. She just saw Shaka Kana when I was in Los 116 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:06.600 Angeles, a month or so ago, and that was incredible, you know, 117 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:12.079 and just meeting you know, and being able to like steward those relationships. 118 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.680 Actually sorry, not mother, her sister is like my mother. She's 119 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.680 like a second mother to me. And so she's been amazing when it comes 120 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:24.959 to like counsel mentorship, you know, within the industry. But music, 121 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:30.000 what I learned from Linda McCrary actually, who's sung with people, you know, 122 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.680 lots of people in the gospel, you know, community of music, 123 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.800 like some of the greats, like she talked with Billy Graham. Anyway, 124 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.839 she said to me, she's like, you know, music has got to 125 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.319 be sung from the heart. Yes, you know, and that is where 126 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.399 the greatest music really comes from. And so when we listen to music that 127 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:53.720 has more of a negative sort of like you know, vibe, and I 128 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.519 don't want to like sort of pinpoint genres. But you know, it's not 129 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.560 it's not a secret that hip hop, you know, actually, when hip 130 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:07.240 hop was created, it came from like that love, loving the community, 131 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.519 building relationships. It was like it came actually from that love vibration. But 132 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.399 as time has gone on, the messages change. I think we can all 133 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.639 agree with that. In hip hop music right, and so it's it's brought 134 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.319 a lot of like negativity where there is that wasn't what it was about in 135 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.319 the in like originally what hip hop was about. It was like, you 136 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.720 know, bringing love to the community and helping one another and all those things. 137 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.679 And so but that is really where music, I believe, really needs 138 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.200 to come back to. And I think artists really need to tap in to 139 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.960 that place of you know, love within themselves because it really starts from the 140 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.600 journey starts from within. You can't find it externally. It's like no man 141 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.279 or person or baby, no one is going to make bring that love to 142 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.519 you. You know that only you can really find deep within. And I 143 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.039 think that that's such a journey, Like what where you just talked about It 144 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.480 is such a journey, But I was the love within is such a journey. 145 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.000 And I think by nature we do get external like we do feel love 146 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.559 to hear or pulled in a certain direction, and it helps build on that. 147 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.720 But I think as you have a few days back to back on this 148 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:18.120 gorgeous planet of ours, that you start to realize that there's times where you 149 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.600 need to deep deep, and you need to pull it from yourself. You 150 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.879 need to love yourself because look at no one, no one, no one, 151 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.799 No matter how much money, how much success, how much experience, 152 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.960 how much this, how much that, no one gets to sidestep the journey 153 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.559 of self love. No one also gets to sidestep the journey of things that 154 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:43.080 happen. They're out of control, the out of control things that happen. 155 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.200 Like we get our hearts broken no matter how good we are in our craft 156 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.960 or what it is that we do, no matter how great projects that we 157 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.639 do, Like, we have these experiences where our heart gets dinged, our 158 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.840 heart gets broken. You know, we go to work one day in a 159 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.480 job that we absolutely love and the company's closing. We all have those dings, 160 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.720 right, and then that's what kind of force us to have that conversation 161 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.919 inside which I'm a huge believer in journaling. But look, you've had a 162 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.399 really interesting journey, and let's talk a little bit about how you came upon 163 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.799 singing. I know when I first met you, you're like, yeah, 164 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.399 you know, I was an a group end in London and doing this and 165 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.559 doing that, And I'm like, wow, you've had a really a varied 166 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.759 path, as many of us have. And the endurance. I mean our 167 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:24.240 show, we talk a lot about the mission. It's not I don't think 168 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.080 it's so much about I need to do this, I'm so excited. It's 169 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.960 about seeing that five years later. It's about the mission and the journey that 170 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.399 it takes you on. So maybe share with us, because yeah, so 171 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.879 I mean I did share with you obviously that I was in a girl group, 172 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.600 girl band, we were starting to Warner Brothers. But it actually my 173 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.000 journey started a long time before that. I would say I've been on the 174 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.360 stage since I was about four, you know. I started doing, you 175 00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:00.480 know, with dancing at ballet and tap and then I was playing like a 176 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:05.039 violin from like I think probably five or six something like that, but singing 177 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.240 as long as I can remember, you know, And I always knew. 178 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.759 I was like, this is what I'm going to do, Like I always 179 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:13.679 have known that. It's never been a point in my journey that I've been 180 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.480 like, what am I here to do? I've never been that person. 181 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.360 I've always known exactly what I was here to do. And I think obviously, 182 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.399 like as time goes on, it does shape a little bit different, 183 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.399 and I think I think what I've learned throughout the journey is it is not 184 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.320 really about me, It's really about other people. It's about how we can 185 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:43.120 help this planet and how we can yeah, just stew it better relationships and 186 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.799 how is our gift serving somebody else? And I think that that's where the 187 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:52.919 shift has been from like self to self less, and that's I think as 188 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.279 the journey goes on, it should really become more and more selfless, right 189 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.480 because I listened to something of it the other day and this guy was saying, 190 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.879 when you become selfless, you're not thinking about yourself anymore. You're not. 191 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.960 You're not, so therefore fear is non existent. You're not worried. 192 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.720 You're not worried about like when's my next job? And like how when am 193 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.639 I how am I going to pay for this? And like you're not thinking 194 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.960 about all those things because you're thinking about other people. You're thinking about serving, 195 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.840 so you're not You're you kind of come out of that space of fear 196 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:30.000 and into yes, selflessness. So but yeah, the journey, but you 197 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.919 know started from when I was four, and you know, I've been on 198 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.120 Like I said, I've been on stage from a very very young age, 199 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:39.600 and I you know, I got scholarships into I was doing all of this 200 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.840 all throughout school, Like when school was done, I was then going and 201 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:48.120 doing more classes like after school, you know, singing classes, dance classes, 202 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.759 acting class, all of it. And so I was kind of definitely 203 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.759 like groomed as those from like a young age. And then I ended up 204 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.159 getting a scholarship into like one of the top stage schools in London, and 205 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.440 I trained there for two years and then my mom was like, there's this 206 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.440 audition that's coming up. You should go for it. And I was like, 207 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.440 Mom, it's for a girl group. I don't want to be in 208 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.519 a group. I don't want this. I'm a solilo answer. It's like 209 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.440 that's not what I want to do. But anyway, she convinced me to 210 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.039 go. I was in a very low point actually at that time because he 211 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.200 was like a father to me. My uncle passed away. I'd seen him 212 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.320 literally every single day of my life and the day was born. He invested 213 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.200 in me my career. He would take me to all my singing classes and 214 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:37.120 dance classes, like we would walk together and like I was always with him. 215 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.720 And then he ended up having a it was an aniurysm, and like 216 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.600 everything just you know, like kidney failure. Like everything just happened in one 217 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.840 day, and it was like my whole world just like blacked out, and 218 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:58.360 I went into like some serious depression I started developing. And I mean it 219 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:03.200 was before that I started developing an eating disorder, because my mum has already 220 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.720 gone through at this point, like two divorces, you know, and I 221 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.360 was sexually abused as a child and like things. You know, that added 222 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:16.120 to the place of me wanting to control something right, And when my uncle 223 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.039 passed away, it was like the thing I just held onto. I was 224 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:26.600 like with this thing, yeah, I mean it it served me. Not 225 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.320 in a good way obviously, but it served me in the sense of like 226 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.039 some type of comfort, something I could control, you know, where everything 227 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.399 was out of control, I was able to grasp onto something. And you 228 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.519 know, I obviously went on that journey, which was like over a decade 229 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.440 long journey of trying to come out of like that place of depression, having 230 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:52.000 an eating disorder, all those things and everything that ties ties around that problem. 231 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.720 Because when you have a problem like that, your whole world revolves around 232 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.480 it, you know, like any addiction, it always revolves around that one 233 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.519 thing. Because again it's not about being it's about thinking about yourself again, 234 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.559 right. And actually it was interesting I was talking to at that time when 235 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.440 I was really struggling. I was talking to a pastor and he said, 236 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:20.639 you know, there's he was explaining about like me, like the condition emy 237 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.519 and I don't want to obviously like you know, but he was saying, 238 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.159 because obviously everybody's got their struggles and some of it can be psychological. Some 239 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:33.480 of it is stuff we can't control. So I'm no judgments or anything in 240 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.320 that sense, but he was saying, think of the word me. He 241 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.720 said, it's me, right, it's thinking about you. He said, 242 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.519 when you take that focus off of you and place it on something else, 243 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.279 that will really really help you. And that was something that did speak to 244 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.440 me, you know, and like little pieces obviously that have kind of formed 245 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:58.039 the picture to healing and wholeness. But yeah, and then from then, 246 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.480 after my uncle passed away, I was in that place of depression. Went 247 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.200 for this TV show that my mom was like, you got to go do 248 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.720 this. I was like, and I ended up getting through, and I 249 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:12.360 ended up getting keep getting through the like each stage and I'm like, Okay, 250 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:17.120 this is getting serious, you know, and then I ended up making 251 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.879 it to the live shows and making it to the finals, and I was 252 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.159 like a couple of girls out of getting into the actual band. And then 253 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.879 we ended up getting signed. The girls that didn't get into the group, 254 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.240 but we got signed, oh okay, and then from there, you know, 255 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:34.720 that was like a year and a half. I think I was with 256 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.679 the man, you know, just it didn't work out different. I think 257 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.960 it's really difficult putting a group of girls together, you know, because you 258 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.720 have different ideas and visions. And I think, honestly, like really successful 259 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.399 bands, you have to know your role, right, people don't know their 260 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:56.360 role. All kinds of problems can stem from that in any business. I 261 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:02.080 think, in any in any cooperative car, you're doing a project of people 262 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:06.359 don't know where they start and where they stop. Yeah, absolutely, because 263 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.759 then it's like, yeah, but everyone's treading on everyone's yeah, and then 264 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.400 everyone's like trying to fight for their autonomy. Yeah right, So yeah, 265 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:18.119 I think any any scenario, but absolutely, particularly I think when you're in 266 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.319 a media form, you know, like it's a media form and everyone has 267 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.880 trained for that spot. So even I don't know the other girls, but 268 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:30.880 if you were mostly solo artists coming together who are used to having presents, 269 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:36.319 right then, knowing that line that would be yeah, there definitely would be 270 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:37.559 a challenge. Well, we know some of the bands make it, and 271 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.960 some bands know for all sorts of reasons, right yeah, And I think 272 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:47.680 so after I left that experience, then I took like ten years of still 273 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.039 you know, trying to do what I was doing, but not being like 274 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.119 I wasn't a full time artist. I was like, you know, having 275 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.039 to work all these other go back to normal job. Yeah. I was 276 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.880 like I got to leave the country because I'm like everybody knows me because I've 277 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.200 been on this big TV show. I couldn't get a normal job. Like 278 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.039 I'd go out. People were like you hear that girl from the glob and 279 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:10.319 I was like, I'm working in a restaurant right now, Like this is 280 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.960 not working. And thankfully, like at the time I had, we filmed 281 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.079 a video in Vancouver. That's what brought me here originally, and I met 282 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.759 somebody on set and so I ended up moving out here, you know, 283 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:25.680 being with this person. It didn't work out, but it was kind of 284 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.920 like I would say, when I came out here, it was like I 285 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.319 took that time to like heal, you know, just really heal and kind 286 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:38.960 of grow a bit as an artist too. And actually what ended up happening, 287 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:41.640 and this is how the whole eating disort of sort of wrapped up, 288 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:47.680 was my so my second father, who married my mom. He adopted me 289 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.000 and my brother and had two more children with my mom. He ended up 290 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.240 having cancer and passing away, and I went back to see him, and 291 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.319 I was like, and we had actually fallen out for a few years and 292 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.680 then we'd sort of reconciled, and then suddenly he was like gonna die of 293 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.759 cancer. So I went back there obviously to spend time with him, and 294 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.880 I was in shock, like I could not believe what I was looking at, 295 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.319 Like I'd never seen anyone that thin as well in the flesh. And 296 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.599 I looked him and thought to myself, like, he can't help what's happening 297 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.480 to him, but I can help what's happening to me, you know, 298 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.160 And I think that when he passed away, it was like I think, 299 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.000 I was like, I can't live with this anymore. I can't like this 300 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.559 person had no control, you know, them passing away, and I was 301 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:36.039 desperately trying to like not pass away, but yet I have control. I'm 302 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:40.440 slowly killing myself with this problem, right, And so that was it for 303 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.559 me. It was like I actually ended up going up for prayer because I 304 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:51.079 was always losing my voice. I ended up going for prayer and the pastor 305 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:56.359 prayed for me. And even though I didn't get my voice back straight away, 306 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.200 the bolimia like it was like it was cute in that very moment. 307 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:03.519 And I've been trying and working on it for years, you know, I 308 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.160 was in counseling like years before that, you know, So it was definitely 309 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.480 a journey. It doesn't it can suddenly happen overnight, but it's usually like 310 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:17.640 a journey to kind of get there. And so yeah, from that moment, 311 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.839 it was like I just started. Really I was like, that's it 312 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.799 now, like I've got anything holding me back. I'm going to go to 313 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.039 Los Angeles. I'm going to you know. And then I was like because 314 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:30.519 I wasn't really dealing with my inner trauma, so instead I was like picking 315 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.839 up marijuana and other drugs and like trying to fill that gap now that the 316 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:40.839 eating disorder wasn't feeling. And then eventually like it just came to a head, 317 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.079 right. It was like I finally hit my like biggest rock bottom, 318 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.599 you know. In twenty fourteen, it was like my life was a complete 319 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.119 mess. I had lost everything, went back to the UK with literally a 320 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.319 suitcase full of clothes to my name. I'd lost everything, the home that 321 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:02.680 I'd built, everything, and went back home and was like I got to 322 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:07.119 do something in my life like this is I was suicide or I did not 323 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.559 want to live because it was like everything was just a disaster, and I 324 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.079 ended up reconnecting, reconnecting with God. At that time, I was actually 325 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.240 prayed for. It was one of the most powerful prayers I think I've ever 326 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.920 Like people at about ten people lay hands on me and I was literally like 327 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:29.519 shaking, like to a point that I was like like there's some stuff like 328 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:33.319 this like being broken off with me right now, this is like insane. 329 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.000 But it was from that moment that I was like, Okay, I got 330 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.519 to live my life for God now, like on a serious level, you 331 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.039 know, because I've made my connection with God like years and years and years 332 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:47.920 before that. Anyways, but you know, the walk isn't a straight walk 333 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.839 like this at times. But but this is this is the mark. I 334 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.119 think that was like, Okay, I'm going to be serious now. I 335 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.079 need to be serious because my life is like I don't want to live anymore. 336 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:04.920 So it was that year of healing and like going to everything that you 337 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:10.200 possibly think that I would need to go to to receive healing. I was 338 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:15.079 there at it like deliverance ministries, Bible studies, like counseling, like whatever 339 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.119 you could think of. I was there. I was literally like I'm going 340 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.960 to die. Yeah, I don't want to live anymore. I was literally 341 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.200 that low. But in that year, I learned to DJ, and yeah, 342 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.079 I learned to DJ, and even after two months of learning to du 343 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.960 j, I started approaching clubs and I was like, hey, you know 344 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.359 DJ from Canada, like I did not know what. I was like, 345 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.279 yeah, DJ from Canada, and they were like, oh, this girl 346 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:44.839 seems like you know, and of course they gave me like opportunities. But 347 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.680 then they're like she could have been doing this either just like not that great 348 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.440 or like she can't have been doing this this long, but so obviously it 349 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.599 takes time to get you know, doing everything. And it was literally one 350 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:00.279 year after I was prayed for I came back to Canada and my career took 351 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:07.759 off here. Like I've never worked another job since twenty twenty fifteen. Okay, 352 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.279 wow, twenty fifteen, I've been full time back in the music industry. 353 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.000 So if you take that back, I mean you said twenty fourteen you 354 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.359 went home with the suitcase and you were like, you know, emancipated. 355 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.079 It sounds like you were pretty you know, empty on the inside and definitely 356 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.440 and then by twenty fifteen that's quite a you know, that's quite a short 357 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.279 span when you think about recovery, when you think about recovery and getting yourself 358 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.279 back up, and good for you for walking in and like I can DJ, 359 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.160 I got this. I'm from Canada. So they're like, well, 360 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.839 we don't really have we can't really resumeate that because it's in every country. 361 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.599 But it reminds me of virtual friends and when he's like just say yes and 362 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:48.160 figure like, say yes and figure it out afterwards, right, So it's 363 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.720 experienced. Yeah, yeah, and I think you know, I'm like definitely 364 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.720 of an experienced type of person, Like I'm one of those people You've just 365 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.839 got to throw me into it and I'm gonna figure it out. Yeah. 366 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.759 Wow, that's quite a story, thank you. There's a lot of transparency 367 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.799 in there, you know, there's a lot of vulnerability and transparency. And 368 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.720 I know I've been talking to a lot of women lately and there's about sharing. 369 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.240 Does it help my career? Does it hinder my career? Are people 370 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:21.000 going to be drawn towards me because now I'm standing in this direction versus that 371 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.359 direction? Is it like even you know, people that have had abuse in 372 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.079 their background, or people that have had addiction in their background, or people 373 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.720 that have had had had had had had and they get to a place in 374 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.880 their life where like, Okay, I'm ready to share it or I never 375 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.119 want to share it. Did you go through any of that? I mean, 376 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.319 you just you just shared with us. Thank you so kindly, because 377 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:41.880 you know you're a beacon, right, so beacons tend to go you know, 378 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.920 I know my message isn't going to just maybe heal one person, It's 379 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.039 going to heal a lot of people. Did you go through any of that 380 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.000 that? You know? The power of your testimony, The power of your 381 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:59.400 testimony is like is powerful, you know, And if my story can help 382 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:03.519 somebody else, than I won you know what I mean, I already won 383 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.200 you know I already won, and so for me to be able to share 384 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.440 this experience, I do really believe though, I think you've got to be 385 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.200 on the other side with a lot of it. Otherwise you could be sharing 386 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.920 things that you're not necessarily through yet and could still be a trigger factor, 387 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.519 like you know, something that can set you back. So, you know, 388 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.880 I've always been quite you know, I've always been a very honest type 389 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:30.240 of person. I definitely went through when I was like doing drugs and all 390 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.440 that. I went through a time of completely like silencing myself and being more 391 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.720 like you know, hush hush, that wouldn't open up. But I think 392 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.640 it was like I was just trying to hide. It was trying to hide, 393 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.880 and I was being silenced as well for sure, like you know, 394 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.880 by fear and all kinds of stuff that was going on. But I definitely, 395 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:53.119 you know, as I shared more of my experience, it actually it 396 00:25:53.200 --> 00:26:00.640 creates freedom because it allows you to be free to be able to share it. 397 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.880 It's like the moment that you break silence, right, It's that she 398 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.359 is freeing, yes, And I think the transparency can also give somebody else 399 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:12.480 freedom. It can you know, when somebody else is like they're like wow, 400 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.720 Like if she can do it, I can do it. Like if 401 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.359 she can be honest, then I can open up, I can share. 402 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.359 So I really hope that, you know, my message inspires people that way 403 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.599 to you know, obviously work on the things that they get to work on 404 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.759 to help to overcome, but to be able to share so it can help 405 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.559 somebody else. It's like your your pain is somebody else's game. Your mess 406 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:41.480 is your message. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I know we're 407 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.640 coming close to time. So a couple of things quickly share with that I 408 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.720 have I know, right, I have a couple of questions I want to 409 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.079 ask you that are kind of off. And there's one question I have to 410 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.079 ask you because it's just it's what we do in the show. But so 411 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.079 tell us, okay, where now, what's going on? How can we 412 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.119 hear you? How can we this? Like, tell us what's going on 413 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.759 for you now? And would you planning this? Yeah? Well I'm becoming 414 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.880 an author, yes, I know, international best selling art there soon to 415 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.480 be. Oh, she decided how to do just you know, go in. 416 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.519 She's in a book of two hundred and sixty two women of Gunpchen creative 417 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.960 and Media and entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs and women of history, which is a little 418 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.319 secret and surprise. Yeah, I'm still for bringing me into this. It's 419 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.880 you know, it's a new avenue. It's it's amazing. You know. 420 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.319 I'm really really thankful for all the beautiful blessings and opportunities that are coming up, 421 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.279 you know. So I'm actually going to be just I'm creating a master 422 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.359 class where I'm going to be able to share my gift and like lead other 423 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.200 people to like learn to DJ and performance. So that's one of my projects. 424 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.799 And she's a lot better at DJing now, just f y Yeah, 425 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.640 yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely from the beginning. Yeah, there's 426 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.200 been a huge and I did get some proper training. I did train myself, 427 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:00.720 you know, I trained my but then I was like, I need 428 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:06.240 to like level up here, and I'm always about leveling up. Yeah. 429 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.319 So I'm going to be releasing a lot of music this year. I already 430 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.599 started releasing music last year and the year before actually, but there's gonna be 431 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.160 a lot of music coming out this year. So I'm working with a team 432 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:23.759 in Houston. I'm actually managed by my producer slash manager in Houston. Amazing. 433 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:30.400 They work with like so many incredible mainstream artists, and like they took 434 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:36.160 me on and you know, it's been amazing them developing me and what I'm 435 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.240 doing in my music. And it's beautiful because my music now that I'm writing 436 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.880 with them, tells a bit more of my story. It's a bit more, 437 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:48.480 you know, like in detail of you know, even like my relationship 438 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.880 with my uncle. I've got a song about him that's like my own. 439 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.400 And what makes it so universal is it brings the audience into the song. 440 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:02.359 It's super cool. It's like one that you definitely here at a festival, 441 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.680 like you can actually we created it so even at the end of the song, 442 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.480 it sounds like a crowd is singing. It's so cool. That is 443 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.559 very cool. So, yeah, lots of new music is coming out this 444 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.359 year. My Masterclass, I'm really excited about that. I'm actually going to 445 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:21.640 be starting a clothing line too, very cool. Yeah, I'm working with 446 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.279 another brand and we're doing like a pop up line. So We've got like 447 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.400 things happening for that events this year. We're going to be releasing that this 448 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:33.359 year. I'm also going to be starting a makeup line. I'm not giving 449 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.480 you all giving it all you but mainly it's all going to be around my 450 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.559 music. So even like with my clothing, like it's all going to be 451 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:47.640 music related, going to be bringing in like lyrical content and just uplifting, 452 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.240 inspiring messages, you know, because you know, I was saying to you, 453 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.599 I think that I'm here to be. I think my messages. I'm 454 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.960 an overcomer, you know, Like that's been the story, that's been the 455 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.039 threat cup anything that you throw at me, I'm going to overcome that situation. 456 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.720 You know, I've gone through so much, but that has been like 457 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:12.400 the kind of the the Yeah, that's kind of tie the whole thing is 458 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:17.680 that I've been able to really overcome every situation and that has definitely got to 459 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.599 come through in the music as well. So yeah, it's gonna be I'm 460 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.200 just trying to think of anything else. I mean, there's a lot like 461 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.799 events, lots of events coming well, We've got We've got I want to 462 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.839 make sure that you're traveling. Yeah, June six, June six and Vancouver 463 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:37.039 at Billies you're gonna be spinning and singing built more for us on the eve 464 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.640 of February as well, and we're gonna be giving everyone in the show twenty 465 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.160 twenty five. Yeah, so we get our twenty twenty four and twenty twenty 466 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.960 five. So and you know what else during the year. Oh yeah, 467 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.400 absolutely a lot of great things. And I know that we've got everything in 468 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.680 the show. Now where to find Jill In case someone's listening as they're driving 469 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.480 right now pull over before you do this and wants to look you up, 470 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.319 please just tell them your website and then I've got one last question for you. 471 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:07.720 Absolutely, so you can find me at chloemorgan music dot com and all 472 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.960 of my social handles on there. Mainly my music platforms is Chloe Morgan Live, 473 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.960 One Word and Instagram because everybody's on Instagram. It's Chloe Morgan Official. 474 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.519 Absolutely. Okay. Look, so let's shift gears a little bit. Yes, 475 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.240 two completely different questions, and one you're gonna go that's not completely different, 476 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.200 but it is when you take you out of your world of music and 477 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.920 put you into the world of music, okay. But one is business aside, 478 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:41.240 something we don't know about you or something like something on your bucket list, 479 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.319 like just just a bucket list, like you know, we're big believers 480 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.240 in what you say about comes about And here's the interesting thing, right you 481 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.519 want something, you're looking for something like right now, I am Tracy Chapman 482 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.880 on my screen saver because I want you to come participate in this party that 483 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.480 we're doing. You know these hundreds, what do we got like four thousand 484 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.359 women that have come to the summits three million? And so I got Tracy 485 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.119 Chapman's on my phone. So my big ask of the world right now is 486 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.640 get that girl on my phone. Okay, So a bucket list, something 487 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.799 that you want right now? S throw it out there because you never know, 488 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.920 like you never know, Oh, could it be something in the career 489 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.720 or something just yeah, I mean a bucket list, like if you look 490 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.240 at your treasure maps or your journals or a long term it could be something 491 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.119 fifteen years from now, it could be personal, it could be anything. 492 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.559 Just something on your bucket list. Well this side, I mean I would 493 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.960 say instantly like at all, like I want to at the world for sure, 494 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:44.000 that's definitely I think probably a goal, but I think on bucket list, 495 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.440 well goal bucket list. I want to do an autobiography. Okay, 496 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.480 okay, my life? Nice? Yeah, that is nice. Nice? 497 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.799 Okay, Well I kind of know this person in books that could probably help 498 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.440 you with that. Yes, I don't know, but it's that kind of 499 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.759 thing, right, I don't know us there right, So it's and that's 500 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.759 amazing that it's like it plants seeds, and I believe in that. And 501 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.000 so this is a question that we ask everyone, even if you're in the 502 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.400 field, and sometimes it gets a little tougher. Sometimes you know right away. 503 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.599 So look, the last question we asked on our show is if you 504 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.599 are on your way to a desert island, you and you you got this 505 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.920 nice suitcase, one suitcase, and you could slide an album in there other 506 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.079 than yours, and you know you're where you're going, there's a record player. 507 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.200 Obviously it's a desert island. Every doesnert island has a record player. 508 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.359 And you could only take one album with you. What could you not imagine 509 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:39.920 not ever listening to for the rest of your days? I don't, I 510 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.200 mean, and it can't be a soundtrack, and it can't be like your 511 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:53.880 playlist, like I mean, I would naturally say, I would naturally say 512 00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.160 I love gospel music. Yeah, and I feel like gospel music would carry 513 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.160 you need to the end of my days, Like I mean, I would 514 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.599 love to say Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston. I could listen to them, 515 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.440 yeah, all the time, Like I just they're my two. I would 516 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.840 say that my two one of my two favorite artists on the planet. But 517 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.280 I think, you know, for me to know that I'm going to be 518 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.639 okay, I would have to listen to like a gospel album. I don't 519 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.880 know necessarily would just be good. I probably have to create the album my 520 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.880 favorite, your favorite, Okay, you're luck at the playlist? Yeah, 521 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.000 Oh my gosh, Like there's so much more. Even though we shared so 522 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.239 much today, there's so much more that we're going to dig into. And 523 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.320 I know this will not be the last time that we're sitting across in a 524 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.960 show, a TV show, a podcast show, or radio show, whatever 525 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.760 it is that we're going to be doing. Thank you so much for coming 526 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.559 today, Thank you so much for sharing the way that you did. So 527 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.960 glad that we met. And that's that's what happens. And you know what, 528 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.800 I think it's a really prime example of what happens when you stay on 529 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.320 the mission. Like I always say to people, there's a great Scottish proverb. 530 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.599 But I don't know why I'm pulling it up today. But it's like, 531 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.719 until you say yes, all unforeseen does not come into play. So 532 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.400 when you say yes, then doors open that would never have done. And 533 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.599 that's why, you know, there's people that are like, I don't know 534 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:15.679 if I can afford to do this, and not know if I can afford 535 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.000 to do that, and they're like, oh, you know, it costs. 536 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:20.880 I don't know. Just give an example. It costs like a thousand 537 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.760 dollars to do this thing, and I really want to do it for my 538 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.320 business and my career or my passion or whatever. And I'm like, if 539 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.320 you walked out the door today and you needed to buy four tires for your 540 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.199 car because for some reason, they're all you know, they're all flat, 541 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.679 they're all done so much, slash them or whatever, would you find one 542 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.480 thousand dollars? They're like yeah, And I'm like you can't, we can. 543 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.840 So I think until you say yes and push yourself through what's going on 544 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.719 over here, Da da da da, then the unforeseen happens. And I 545 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.519 meet you, and you meet me and you want to publish a book and 546 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.960 I get you in a book and who knew? Like who knew? I'm 547 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.960 sure you wanted an autobiography before you met me, right, you know. 548 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.599 And I think just to add to that stay just to jump on the pandwagon, 549 00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:01.440 that is also being open, not necessary that it has to be exactly 550 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.840 how you think it should be, you know, just being open to it 551 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.360 possibly being a different way, because sometimes it's like we get we we want 552 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.320 to get to a goal, right, but sometimes it's not the way that 553 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.840 we think we're going to get to that goal. You know. Sometimes God, 554 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:20.159 I mean, God acts in mysterious ways, right, And I think 555 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.480 from what I've learned, is just like the open to you know, the 556 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.199 possibility of getting their way getting there a different way, because God knows all 557 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.719 the shortcuts, you know. I mean I will say a lot of it 558 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.880 is doing the work, like definitely, like there's something to be said about 559 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.679 you know. I think my generation, your generation, we came from work, 560 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.960 actually work ethic, I mean, to learn with it, you know 561 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.079 what I'm talking about. And I think that we you know, I enjoy 562 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.400 the work. I enjoy it because that is gaining me experience is by doing 563 00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.719 it, you know, and just being open. And I think for me, 564 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.760 I think that's where things have really shifted and more has opened up my 565 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.480 world. It is like it doesn't have to be exactly how I think it 566 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.920 should be, Like I'm going to open myself up and like and just as 567 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.000 example of that, you know, my my manager and producer, he's like, 568 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.280 he's like, Okay, we're going to do this. And at first 569 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.960 I kind of like struggled with a few ideas you had, and then I 570 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.360 was like, I just said to myself one day, I was like, 571 00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.440 let it go, Like you've got this far, but this is as far 572 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.639 as you've got yourself, Like, let the professional maybe tell you what you 573 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.360 think you know, because you can't just depend on what you think, like, 574 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.519 we need like lots of other ideas and things coming in. And the 575 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.039 thing is, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, try again. 576 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.639 There's always tomorrow. I mean it's not guaranteed, but it's like there is 577 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:52.079 always usually another try another try, try another way. All right, Well 578 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.840 we are going to wrap up today. Thank you so much. 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