WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.679 Welcome to the Occult Rejects in this episode. I'm very happy to have on 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.560 this guest. He had me on his show recently, and I will say 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.960 it was actually like a really really great discussion. I had a really good 4 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.039 time on his show. Not that I don't on other shows. I'm always 5 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:18.679 happy to go on other shows, but uh, I don't know, I 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:20.719 don't know if it was a New York thing or whatever, but like it 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.320 wasn't uncomfortable, it wasn't weird. It was like, this was just a 8 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.000 cool chat bullshit with some dude. I just meant, you know, So 9 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:29.679 I really wanted to get him on my show. And I am a fan 10 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.519 of people who write books. So I'm a fan of, you know, 11 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.320 people who take the time to write books. You know. I think that 12 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.640 is I mean, I'm trying to like work on one myself and it's probably 13 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.000 only going to be like maybe the most one hundred and fifty pages. And 14 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:42.920 even I find this like daunt thing, you know, but it has to 15 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:47.159 be like it's a passion for me to finish. So I guess I can 16 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.320 relate with that, you know, And I find I just I just find 17 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:54.439 that that's cool when people have a passion and complete something that takes a long 18 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:57.560 time. You know, I feel that there is actually like heart and soul 19 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:02.159 put into that. And I figured, why not have him come on and 20 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.319 I guess kind of like talk about like what even got you into writing it? 21 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.840 And this and that and before I introduce you, and I'll showed up. 22 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.079 I did forget I wanted to introduce. I got Lisa with me today, 23 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:17.519 the Mad Scientist co hosting, and the guest himself finally have me running 24 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.599 my mouth. This is why I hate intros. I hate intros which had 25 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:26.599 Daniel Christos from Ballbusters as the guest. And what is up, my man? 26 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.760 Let everybody know what your deal is before we get into the topic. 27 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:34.519 Just let everybody know where they can find you. You show any topics that 28 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.760 you I mean, not topics, any sites or anything links. Just let 29 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:42.359 just let everybody know. Please, Yeah, no problem. So, oddly 30 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.560 enough, I have a site that for the last ten years has been devoted 31 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.200 to my hot sauce business because I had a store in old town San Diego 32 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:56.280 for about seven years and so it's called Semper Fry Fry. That's awesome, 33 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:01.519 Yeah, that is great. So I just recently put up a podcast tab, 34 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.920 and on there you can see the podcast player. There's a link to 35 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:07.560 the book, and there's a calendar of when I'm going to be on other 36 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.319 people's shows and when they're gonna be on Mind, so they can kind of 37 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.919 know when to tune into Rumble, which is basically the main place. But 38 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:21.599 I got kicked off of Twitter so long ago that I actually had to use 39 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.479 my girlfriend's phone number in order to get back on because they had completely blacklisted 40 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:29.000 that number. Oh I'm using it different, Yeah, I don't even Yeah, 41 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:35.039 even even the YouTube account is under like uh like meeting. I had 42 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.639 to make a whole new email accountable and have somebody in another country. Well 43 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.039 I had to research, so just ended up being accounted made the account, 44 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.879 so I didn't even ping the same ipadris. Wow. Yeah, Hey that's 45 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:47.680 clever. Hey, you gotta get any way to work around it, right, 46 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.800 And so yeah, I'm under disguise. Well I wrote it out disguised 47 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.960 disguise, like under disguise. The limits because I can't even use Ballbusters on 48 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.479 there because they'll they've done it, They've taken it down before Christ. So 49 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.639 it's called discus. It's like at disguise limits because they took the out of 50 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.039 the center. But that's that's where I'm on the Twitter. Yes, and 51 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:15.159 I'll uh, i'll add all your links too or if anything, Uh do 52 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:19.479 you have a link tree? No, well I'll just addle your links on 53 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.280 the bottom anyway for when the show drops. But uh yeah, and the 54 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:30.000 book he has Prescraft Beyond Babylon ball Buster's Book. So I mean, I 55 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.520 guess, I mean, I guess probably self explanatory. When you started getting 56 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:38.240 into conspiracy theories, you probably came across Bill Cooper, but like his uh, 57 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.319 I guess, like what what was like made you want to write about 58 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:45.199 this situation? If you don't mind it's weird because as soon as I saw 59 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.800 the title Behold a Pale Horse, I put that book off because I was 60 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.680 like, I don't want to be preached Thatt. This is kind of like 61 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.039 rigidly just crap. It's nothing like that at all. But I just had 62 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.599 that preconceived notion that somebody's gonna fill me with a bunch of you know, 63 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.520 your into hell, and I was I didn't I didn't want that. So 64 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:08.879 I think I read Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustas Mullens first, and 65 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:15.000 I read like Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, and then obviously Common Sense 66 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.360 and stuff like that, and just one book would lead to another and I 67 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:23.480 would start researching that. But I finally got around to Behold a Pale Horse. 68 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.319 And it even took me a couple of years after reading that to find 69 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.240 his old Hour of the Time broadcasts, and there was a channel on bit 70 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:36.240 shoot just called the Hour of the Time, and I think I might have 71 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:42.279 probably listened to all of them at this point. I pretty don close and 72 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.120 I came across his Mystery Babylon series and I would driving back and forth to 73 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.800 San Diego for the store from Yuma, I would, uh, just listen 74 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.800 to the podcasts, right, and I can just hear it. So I 75 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.560 got a lot of a lot of time in on that among other people. 76 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.519 But so the way I wrote the book is he introduced kind of like the 77 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.120 topics, and then I go into my research on it. So it's kind 78 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.319 of like a side by side thing. And not not every chapter is like 79 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:10.279 that, but when he had something to say about it, and he could, 80 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.079 you know, say it, and I don't have to go too deep 81 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.160 into it because it's already been mentioned. Then I can focus on other things. 82 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.279 And so it's kind of like my way of working alongside Bill the only 83 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:25.040 way that I can because he's not here anymore. Yeah, what do you 84 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:29.120 think is up with I mean, I know this is jumping right into it 85 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:30.879 already, but like, what do you think is up with his death? 86 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.720 Yeah? I don't trust Doyle. I can tell you that Shamiley. I 87 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:44.079 don't buy that whole story that the police chief came to his house to protect 88 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.680 him from something happened happening to him too, and that's why he found out 89 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.639 after the fact. I think it was I think that he wasn't inserted into 90 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:57.319 his life on purpose, for for a purpose to monitor him. And it's 91 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.439 almost like a handler in a sense, maybe something like that, but yeah, 92 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.319 damage control. Yeah, like a confidant, like almost like it's worse 93 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.560 because it's really deceptive, you know. Yeah, I don't know if that's 94 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.120 true, and I don't want to be liable for saying something like that, 95 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.639 but I have suspicions. And so it's a theory of yours, you know 96 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.240 that you can want. Yeah, And in the way they say that it 97 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:24.600 went down and Doyle describes it in one of the documentaries about how the police 98 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.319 finally like you know, said that they intentionally showed up there one night playing 99 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.399 clothes, playing huge speakers in a in a truck to try to get him 100 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:40.199 out there because he had I guess some kind of understanding with the property owners 101 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.839 around his area on the top of the hill to watch over their stuff because 102 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.920 teenagers are breaking fences and animals are getting loose and stuff like that. So 103 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.800 he would do that as a courtesy. He would take care of their property. 104 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.399 If somebody was out there drinking and doing stupid stuff, he'd go out 105 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.160 there and you know, get him out of there. So they lured him 106 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:04.279 out of his home and then as he realizes that they're playing closed cops doing 107 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.920 this, he gets back into his vehicle and he's trying to drive back up 108 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:13.279 to his house and they try to ram him, and he pushed one guy 109 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.439 off and he didn't you know, run him over anything and push him off. 110 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.680 But by the time he gets to his house, they I guess in 111 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.759 their orders they said don't let him back in. That's in order to kill 112 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:28.680 yeah, and he's they're saying that he was one legged running running because they 113 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.879 had like the fake leg right, and somehow it turned around with a thirty 114 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.920 eight special and shot a guy in the head as he's running. There's no 115 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.600 fucking way in the angle, doesn't make sense. And there you see a 116 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.399 bullet hole through like a parked card that he had bought for his Another suspicious 117 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.680 character, his daughter who showed up in his life towards the end too. 118 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.319 And somehow they knew the whole day out of the house of what he had 119 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.600 there. But yet she claims she never told them anything. She just said 120 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.040 Dad would try to ask me. So there's all kinds of mess up stuff 121 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.120 going on with that. But I don't think he I think he was portrayed 122 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.920 a lot, and I think that's it's pretty a sad, tragic thing. 123 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.560 And you know what happens with these idiots, these cops that go out and 124 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.920 do stuff like this, they end up shooting themselves, shooting each other all 125 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.079 the time. I think the guy just got dinged by somebody else who wasn't 126 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.199 paying attention, and they blamed it on Bill. The guy didn't die, 127 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:22.920 but he did get shot in the head. That's that's what I think happened. 128 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.560 Because even if we look at so many of these other other instances where 129 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.600 they'd go to raid somebody for no good reason, somebody gets shot, they 130 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:31.720 blame it on the guy, on the person that they went after, and 131 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.799 this usually then the shoots the guy. So it's they're just that bumbling. 132 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:43.600 They're not really good at what they do. No, oh, in the 133 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.320 morning. This morning, I'll be like, oh, yeah, you want 134 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:50.399 to know how good we are. They like the Witching Hour for some reason. 135 00:08:52.440 --> 00:09:00.000 Yeah, that's the best frie for real. You read The Pale Horse, 136 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:05.039 so with the chapter missing or with the chapter included, So why have 137 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.879 they took out? Yeah? I have the five hundred page one. I 138 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.440 know they have like one that's like four hundred and sixteen or something like that. 139 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.960 I think they took the Protocols of Zion out of one of them. 140 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.360 Yes, that might have been something to do with also copyright, because I 141 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.159 know they were publishing that again as well. So I did read the whole 142 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.679 thing with that in there. And uh, as best as you can get 143 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.480 from a PDF, like whatever his documents were that were, you know, 144 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.200 looked like they were scanned in an old copier that were at it look like 145 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.879 I've what I can make out of it. Wasn't always write and focus or 146 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.720 some parts or cut off. But yeah, like I saw the stuff with 147 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.000 like Keno in there towards the end and all that stuff. So was there 148 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:46.759 anything like in that chapter that was, you know, worth wanting to take 149 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:48.559 out? Yeah? It was it like anything we're like, Oh, I 150 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.440 could see whether they took this out or what. Yeah, I mean, 151 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.320 it couldn't be the fact it was just on Zion that it's good enough. 152 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.840 I don't know, you know, right, it was funny because he tiptoed 153 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.639 around that a lot. I noticed it. And this is one of the 154 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.879 things that I don't understand, except for maybe because al Weener, the guy 155 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.720 who was you know, the head of the radio station that you know, 156 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:15.320 helped him out and got him going and stuff like that was Jewish. I 157 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.000 think maybe he just treaded lightly. I don't know what the real reason is 158 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.679 behind that, because if you do any of this research, you're gonna end 159 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.279 up landing in the kabbala and you're gonna end up seeing these connections going up. 160 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.799 If you don't, I mean, he would talk more about the Jesuits 161 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.039 than he would about and he's very rarely talked about that either. It was 162 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.279 always communist, socialist, Marxist this, But who made those people up who 163 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.159 are comprised of that? You know, what are the majority of the Bolsheviks, 164 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.480 you know, and it's he also, I think held on too much 165 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.679 of the mainstream narrative of World War two, if you know what I mean. 166 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.159 And you know, the focus over here in Germany paid no attention to 167 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.519 the mass slaughter going on in Russia, you know. But that's not to 168 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.759 criticize. I don't know what his reasonings were for that, but I definitely 169 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.279 didn't have the same restraints when I wrote the book. And it's not to 170 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.200 go after anybody or you're this so therefore you must be that. No, 171 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.840 it's not that at all. But there are you know, instances where you 172 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:20.399 have to consider that the Lurrian Kabbala set the stage for Zionism to come about, 173 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:28.240 the you know, taking an active role how the Sabotans after being kind 174 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:35.679 of what do they call it, disillusioned by sabbatized, you know, he 175 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:43.279 decided to go go Muslim to see Yeah, that's that's how people like Dwight 176 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:45.519 York, I mean, Dwight York must have seen him do that, you 177 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:46.440 know, Red read that he pulled that off. He's like, oh, 178 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.320 I can keep changing whatever religion my cult is and they'll just keep following me. 179 00:11:52.639 --> 00:12:00.840 Wait, now we're going crypto. We're going to so so came about 180 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.919 because of that. And then you you know, if you follow the line 181 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.720 there, so these crypto Sabatan, it's not so much crypto Jews with crypto 182 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:13.039 Saboteans because they were heretical according to mainstream jew you know Jews at that point, 183 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.320 and uh, they would be ousted out of towns if they found that 184 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:24.200 you were Sabatan. They started, uh well they actually somehow got interact were 185 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:31.639 interacting with Jacob Leebowitz or Jacob Frank and they started teaching him the mysticism. 186 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.480 The Sufism is all over both of those two people. Sufi mysticism is a 187 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.519 huge part of it. And that gets into Spain too, Like there's a 188 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.639 real heavy concentrate stuff, and I don't think people get there, like when 189 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.360 I would say it's probably most certain that Ignatius or an ego of Loola was 190 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.440 a Morano like Hugo's Bass Royalty. I go look at the fu history of 191 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.519 Spain, would you. There's there's Phrenician burial areas, and it's like, 192 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:05.120 what are you talking about? Stop it? But so Jacob gets brought up 193 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.240 by basically under the wing of the Donba, and there's a guy named Barukia 194 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:16.840 Russo who he also said he was a reincarnation of so self proclaimed schizophrenic Jacob 195 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.320 Frank said he was Jacob from the Bible, he was a reincarnation of sabataize 196 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.039 Zev. And this guy Russo that the third one most people don't really talk 197 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:31.759 about. But then he goes on and just turns everything from dial setting one 198 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.440 to dial setting ten and breaks the goddamn knob off, you know. And 199 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.440 it's everything that we hear about, you know, the quote unquote elite and 200 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.360 these types of people all looks practice or what we consider Satanism to be. 201 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:50.039 That's a complete description of Jacob Frank's frank Ism, where they were duties to 202 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:56.080 drink blood, to wife, swap, incest, child, rape and torture 203 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.879 all that stuff, and it's part of magic, their magic, their way 204 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.440 going about it. I have to say, I mean accord according to like 205 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.639 the information that we have, they seem to have been pretty open about like 206 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.360 being into like screwed up shit. Yeah, Yeah, it was basically like 207 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.320 they from when I got out of the frankt out of those people, like 208 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.799 I think we covered them a while ago. They seem to have just wanted 209 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.120 to like kind of like push push it to one extreme, to like break 210 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.639 the system by degrading man, instead of like bringing this up to make a 211 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.480 change, We'll just fucking bring in the end times faster. Right, So 212 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.600 the choice is can we make all men great? That's a little bit hard. 213 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.840 It's a lot easier to corrupt all men, right, So they went 214 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:43.720 after all positive forms of systems. So whether they're religious or governmental, they 215 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.840 wanted to destroy all positive systems, right, that's part of their credo, 216 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:56.600 their you know, their decree, their modus operandi. And when Jacob Frank 217 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.799 was kind of getting pressure from his surrounding, he decided, hey, they 218 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.679 the Donmo went went to Islam, We're going to go Catholic and Christian. 219 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.559 Twenty six thousand people under his influence, including himself, got baptized, and 220 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.919 then he infiltrated that direction, you know, into that. So it's not 221 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.399 like the Roman Catholic Church was holier than that. If you look at the 222 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:26.279 history of the popes, begin with they had some pretty uh questionable roots to 223 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.000 say the very least. So I don't know what people think of that, 224 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.799 but it's you got to kind of look at it for what you see, 225 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.600 Like hope is it the third pop Boniface. There's some really interesting, horrific 226 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.559 characters out there. I don't and none of them have ever recognized our constitution 227 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.919 or us being independent. So that kind of ties into the whole Connor information 228 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:52.120 thing too, you know, the thing you were saying before about like you 229 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.399 know, the stuff not being in there, or maybe like why he didn't 230 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.000 focus so much on all this stuff. You know, things that I've even 231 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.919 just seen like amongst the conspiracy community. I probably really wouldn't even be thinking 232 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.639 of this if it wasn't for odd Man saying something last week when he was 233 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.919 on my show. But like, I mean, I've seen it with other 234 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.639 people, and I have seen like kind of divide. I mean, there's 235 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:22.120 so many different pockets of little communities and groups in podcasting and truth and conspiracy 236 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.200 or occult but like I have seen some people like almost draw a line with 237 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:32.519 Zionism, you know, like the odd Man had told me since he started 238 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.120 covering it. There's certain shows and people that I would deal with him anymore, 239 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.960 And I was like mind blown. Actually, I was just I just 240 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.480 I didn't think we associated with new people like that. I guess he does, 241 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.519 you know. I didn't ask him who it was either, I didn't 242 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:47.120 want to know, but uh, you know, I was just like a 243 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:48.679 little surprised. I was like, God, damn, like really like you 244 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.840 then, I fucking with you because you've been like covering Zionism recently, and 245 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.360 it's just, you know, could that I don't know, maybe that guy 246 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.639 was dealing with the same like could have been dealing with the same ship back 247 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.799 then. I don't know. Yeah, it's possible. And that's that's that's 248 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:08.640 a good point. Which really weird about it is it's not exactly and I 249 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:11.240 do think there's a reason for that though. I think the pushback is because 250 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:17.839 there's something there right exactly, and there's and it's not like all Jews are 251 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:22.319 Zionists. That's another misconception. So you know, you could ask a Jews 252 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.240 what's zion and some of them be like, I really they couldn't even tell 253 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.200 you, right, They'd be like it's like an idea, Like they couldn't 254 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:33.400 really probably pinpoint something that would make you actually convinced that they understood what zion 255 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.440 is. Or they'll tell you that it's not right to force the hand. 256 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:44.640 It should come about naturally through God's own time frame, not yours. Right 257 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.680 if you if you think you should be the one pushing it, then it's 258 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.839 a it's a contract of man, not of God. So therefore it kind 259 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.359 of makes itself no and void. Right. And then when they when they 260 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:03.720 when the job, the j Frankists, if you will, when they converted, 261 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:10.519 you see them like people like Swedenberg Zinzenzorf. The Brethrens started popping up, 262 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:14.960 right. You had the the Asiatic Brethren, you had the Moravian, 263 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.400 which I think we're an offshoot of the Bohemian, and then they created the 264 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:25.359 Plymouth and the Exclusive Brethren. For all these parents were in either the Plymouth 265 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:30.039 or the Exclusive. So that's that's straight up Sabatinism right there, or sabotin 266 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.480 Frankism. So God knows what his childhood was actually like, you know, 267 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:40.240 no, I think it wasn't. His parents supposedly Quakers as well. I 268 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:45.759 think I think the puritanical side of these Brethrens is what might stand out. 269 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:51.920 So I think maybe that's where that that sense comes from, because apparently they're 270 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.559 very strict, but at their core they were Francists. Well, you know, 271 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.480 I was going to say, this is just my opinion, and this 272 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.039 is from covering When I covered Skinwalker Ranch, that ended up turning into like 273 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.519 four or five I think five maybe six part series something like that, crazy 274 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:08.960 long. It was probably about a year and a half ago, maybe two 275 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.920 years ago on the Occult Rejects. The reason it ended up turning that into 276 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.759 that long is because when we started looking at a lot of the people associated 277 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:22.440 with Skinwalker Ranch, the property, or anybody covering anything over there, more 278 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.240 than half or a large amount of them were all Mormons. Oh wow, 279 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.000 And I was like, yo, what I mean? I understand Utah's Mormons, 280 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.880 but like you also have to realize Mormons also think that there's little spaceships 281 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.880 up there, you know, some of them. So you have to staw 282 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.960 wondering what's really going on with the UFOs around Skinwalker Ranch. But I forgot 283 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.480 where out when I started like looking into like a lot of these Mormon people 284 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:49.200 and just like starting to like look through Mormon lineage, Like you started getting 285 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.400 a lot of them in the Quakers, like coming over here in stuff like 286 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.000 around almost the same time, you know, frame, and like a lot 287 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.400 of them, like I feel like a lot of them when they were we 288 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.559 have to remember this country, it was basically like a refugee for religious people 289 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.880 that were getting fucking having problems practicing their religion wherever they were. It could 290 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:14.039 have been for a negative reason, or there could have been a justified reason. 291 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.799 Maybe this person's fucking weird. You know, you have no idea, 292 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:21.160 but we got large amounts of people coming over here like that. And I 293 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:25.960 do think that there was people who were occultists or even part of secret societies 294 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.720 that were covering themselves underneath those religions as well. Absolutely, so like what 295 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.799 you were getting at too, I have to really question what kind of upbringing 296 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:40.119 the Croley even really have exactly. And what's funny is that he was kind 297 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.160 of guided by a hand the whole time, because he ends up going into 298 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.440 the Golden Dawn, and if you trace that back, you're going to see 299 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:52.200 that they lose people had roots and sabotinism as well, from one direction or 300 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.559 another. So it's like he got brought back into the same type of thing 301 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:00.160 just a little bit more without the mask on it, you know, so 302 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.079 it's kind of it's kind of interesting how that all, how that all turned 303 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:10.400 out. Have you done much work on the Golden Dome before? Not really, 304 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.680 but like there's a book out there that covers some stuff, and I'll 305 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.640 read something from it if you know mine. It's uh it says, ah, 306 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:26.240 we come back again to that offshoot of the Asiatic Brethren, and the 307 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:30.279 freighter is Lucius of the early nineteenth century, in which buller Lytton is said 308 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.880 to have been initiated. The Golden Dawn was governed by the Secret Chiefs, 309 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:41.240 where set said to direct the activities of the order through spirit communication. The 310 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.240 Secret Chiefs were related to both those of the Strict Observance and the descended Masters 311 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.559 of Bolovatsky. And then they say the Golden dun was at that time led 312 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:55.400 by McGregor Mathers, which we all know that the Secret Chefs, that's Secret 313 00:21:55.440 --> 00:22:00.480 Chiefs. And then then you get it into this again when you talk about 314 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:06.039 the Brethren's, is that like the Hermetic Order, the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light 315 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.640 that was Sabotine. It's like it's it just it's everywhere, like that's that's 316 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:17.279 one of those things that cuts through all these other even like Christianity and all 317 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:22.960 these sects that were allegedly very strict in Christianity, like they had a secret 318 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.559 they had some secrets going on there. Well, even like some of these 319 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:29.960 secret societies. Like even like I mean with the OTO, I really might 320 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.880 be grasping when I say the astramargentum, but like I could at least speak 321 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.119 with the OTO initiations, like as you go up, they'll be like almost 322 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.359 like they will almost like getting like names specific where it's like now you know 323 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:47.480 you're having knights templar being mentioned in there, or certain like I wouldn't say 324 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.759 it's like another degree, but it's like an add on. I forgot this 325 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.640 a term fucking for it, and I'm screwing it up. But I mean 326 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.720 there's like things that other roles and names and positions that you can take before 327 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.559 you're actually moving to another degree or maybe arts of moving to the next degree 328 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.079 that you will. They do have like names to them that just go back 329 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.519 to other things, you know, And I think they they even have like 330 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.079 supposedly the Illuminati something that I forgot the way they word it. But I 331 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.920 mean, so some people think the OTO is automatically the Illuminati now, which 332 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.519 I yeah, I don't know about all that maybe, but part of it 333 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.200 anything, it's probably just like because I think the Illuminati, like became the 334 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:27.839 Philadelphi's, they became the the Ami Reunis. There were all kinds of different 335 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:33.720 sects after quote unquote the Big Lodge went down or whatever, so they were 336 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.079 already everywhere else anyway, just under different names, doing the same thing. 337 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.880 So you'd have to trace each one of them forensic style to see where they 338 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:47.400 where they went from there, you know. But going back to that Brotherhood 339 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.279 of Light, like they talk about the Oto and the Right of Memphis and 340 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:55.680 mister him being involved with that, and so I mean they also say that 341 00:23:55.759 --> 00:24:00.519 like people that claim that the Resocutions now that's there, they do that for 342 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.519 giving themselves clout, And that might be why they bring up names like the 343 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.720 Knights Templar too, because I think it's a way of you know, substantiating 344 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:15.519 themselves or legitimizing themselves as having these deeper roots when there's probably nothing that's original 345 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.359 at a certain point, or at least a lot of it isn't anymore. 346 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:23.720 It's not from the core of the earlier beliefs. They get rerouted a lot. 347 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:26.000 I mean, what's the good thing you didn't get to Elen? Was 348 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:33.039 it the eleventh degree in the otio the fun sodomy degree. I think I 349 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.960 believe it or not. I think that may even start popping up before then. 350 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.039 I don't know how to but no, I haven't gotten that far. 351 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.240 It's like, congratulations, you've made it, now, bend over. There 352 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.279 is just guys, there's some weird stuff in some of the one of the 353 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.079 degrees they get into the homunculous and all that weird shit. So like, 354 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:57.240 yet, if you're actually like talking about like the brain, you know, 355 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.720 it could be so many different things. Something I was gonna say, Oh, 356 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:06.559 you know my opinion. I have been questioning it lately. And I 357 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:10.440 even think Lisa might even agree with me on this because of like the stuff 358 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:15.480 that we've been covering and and stuff. She's been privy to actually see stuff 359 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.599 that Crowley has like written himself. She's gone to you know, the library 360 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.039 and actually like looked at his hand notes of writing vision in the voice. 361 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:30.480 So you will see right, yeah, yeah, so you will see things 362 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:36.799 that you won't see in his book. And I'm starting to wonder if it 363 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:41.920 was possibly a Rosicrucian order, but just not the Rosicrucians. They just took 364 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:48.920 a different name because he's too fixated on Rose and it's not always his girl, 365 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:55.440 right, you know. And I just and just I also find like 366 00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:00.400 the whole Rose thing just a very common visual when you're experiencing magic the way. 367 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.599 But I do think, I do think it's quite possible it could be 368 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.920 possibly like a Rosicrucian order in itself that's just been rebranded. Yeah, And 369 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:14.240 you know where I get that thing about the rosecretions from is actually from Proofs 370 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.039 of the Conspiracy by John Robison, which was written in seventeen ninety five. 371 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.839 It was back then that he was saying that they were often using certain names 372 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:27.279 for clout And that's seventeen ninety five. I can only imagine what they would 373 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.319 be doing at this point, right. Everything's commercial. So I don't know 374 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:36.119 what you've come across on that, Lisa, But have you have you gotten 375 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:41.720 there's this book called transi Humanism, The History of the Idea by David Livingstone 376 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.039 that this is a great book for like a lot of I've heard of that 377 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.200 information all at once, and you can trace the lineage a lot. I 378 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.079 found this book after I wrote read I wrote mine, of course, So 379 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:52.319 oh was that when you were like, damn, I can I put so 380 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:57.720 much? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah I definitely checked that out. So 381 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.279 yeah, Like what Nick was saying is that you see because they have all 382 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.599 his handwritten journals, you know, in the collection, and then they have 383 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.839 the first print of the vision the voice that's like typed out, and then 384 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.599 from there you know the subsequent editions or whatever, and you see where he 385 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.599 has gone in on the first edition that was written in circle specific words and 386 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:29.079 like made sure that those were capitalized. And it has nothing to do with 387 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.400 oh it was the beginning of a sentence or it was the name of somebody. 388 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.319 No, it's just arbitrary words where he says he wants is capitalized. 389 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.680 But then you would flip the page and it's the same word, but he's 390 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.160 not asking for it to be capitalized. So it's almost like there was a 391 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.839 pattern to it, or there was code to it, or he's trying to 392 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:52.599 emphasize that particular word in that particular paragraph to mean something. There was that 393 00:27:52.680 --> 00:28:00.279 and then the repetitions of certain words that occurred consistently and constantly, and then 394 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.720 with the handbook, you saw like a bunch of doodling, like kind of 395 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:10.319 like like he's trying to work something out, math like he's probably doing them 396 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.400 on the words. There was there was there was a bunch of math. 397 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:17.000 There was a bunch of almost like calculations, but there was a bunch of 398 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.519 doodling, and it was almost like you then you look at the next page 399 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.200 over, which for me, and not that I'm the same person, but 400 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.519 that when you're writing a journal, I don't skip pages like I just keep 401 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.599 writing, just flip the page and keep writing. But he reserved that one 402 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:37.640 page on one as a way to either edit or think things through or whatever. 403 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.720 And so it was so to me that was vital, that empty page 404 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.039 of what he doodled, and then it worked over to the next page. 405 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.920 That's pretty interesting. I don't know if that makes any sense, but there 406 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.119 was there was a method method to the madness. But there was an actual 407 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.599 legit methodology to his writing. And so I definitely think everything was calculated. 408 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.880 Everything there was specific. He was so huge with it had to be. 409 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.400 He was fixated on Jamata. He really will How close are you allowed to 410 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.079 get to it. Can you touch him and look through him, pictures of 411 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.160 him everything. It's just unfortunately you have to get permission to show them. 412 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.079 They're actually copyrighted I And that's to me. I would have covered this shit 413 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.279 already. Yeah, No, I just want to interrupt you before I forget. 414 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.839 And the reason why I'd say I would have covered this shit already simply 415 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.839 for the fact that she found him dropping the fucking N bomb and saying fags 416 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.240 or something like that in his own writing, in his own writing. So 417 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:38.519 I'd love to know what the far left lip tards think about their master Crowley 418 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:45.720 dropping words like that in their writing in his writing. Yeah, I can't 419 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.119 wait to show that without having to have it taken down. And you're like, 420 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.640 oh, copyright permission shoes. And it was something else, And he 421 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.519 wrote a letter to somebody and it was almost like in rebuttal, because I 422 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.960 think this person had asked him for an interview and he he was upset that 423 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.359 he was softball these questions or that he was asked types of questions and it's 424 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.000 like, what you're wasting my time almost that, you know, And then 425 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:15.359 the whatever was put out in terms of the interview was not technically what he 426 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.200 was happy with. And so it was in response to that that you know, 427 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.519 oh, I guess you have to cater to these people, and that's 428 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.720 why you asked me these questions and you had to put these things out. 429 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.799 And then that was the title of that letter and they have it typed out 430 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.599 and that's part of the state that's with the collection. But yes, to 431 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.599 answer your questions, they have his journals. You can touch them, and 432 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.200 it was it was odd because you can touch them and it's you can see 433 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.839 where he's very passionate about certain topics, where the actual intention of the pen 434 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.119 is harder on certain parts, and then where others it's not. You can 435 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.799 tell where he's writing swiftly, and you can't really make out what he's writing 436 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.319 up here too, like your mental process thing, for sure, I think 437 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.240 be true. Definitely think so there was you could tell like even in his 438 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.039 journals it was planned, like there was so much going on in his brain. 439 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.279 Usually when you write journals, you're just freestyling it, right, just 440 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.559 hurry up and get it down because it's in my brain and I'm trying to 441 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.559 capture it. But with him, it almost seemed like there was a method 442 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.519 to it all, and then he numbered them as well. That was another 443 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.079 thing. I think there was something else that we talked about. But I 444 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.279 have a whole list of all the little intricacies of the things that I noticed 445 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:36.440 of those journals themselves. To me, I think those journals are more valuable 446 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:42.359 than what was written in the books. I think you actually yet personal relationship, 447 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.119 kind of like digging into somebody's diary that you're not supposed to. I'm 448 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.720 pretty sure if I was to touch them, I would probably would have been 449 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:57.799 wearing gloves and tongs, so I didn't get anything into my Well, it's 450 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.119 funny. It's funny you say that, because you know, when I requested, 451 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:05.160 because you have a better request in all kinds or whatever. I think 452 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.079 they were expecting somebody different than she got to look at the tyrot cards you 453 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.680 used to use and everything. Yeah, and that's good. I'll just say, 454 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.720 you're not pasty white with tattoos all over your face. What do you 455 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.440 do in here? They told me that, they said, because when I 456 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.400 requested, they were they said something I don't know what it was, and 457 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.400 they were like, we were expecting somebody with like purple hair and all tatted 458 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.039 out and I was like, sorry, I'm sorry, but yeah, they 459 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:37.680 said that people you know that that's the stereotype that when they got the Crawley 460 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.440 I guess collection, they were they knew that that type of traffic was going 461 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:49.400 to start coming in. But what first popped in my mind when you said 462 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.279 that just certain words were capitalized and they weren't in other places is the reason 463 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.359 why I asked if you could touch them, is could you go from one 464 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.000 end of the book to the other just write down those words that are capitalized 465 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.920 and see if they make any sense in a different sentence. I told I 466 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.119 told Nick that. I was like, there is a code. I know, 467 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.359 there is just the way it is, and you know, and the 468 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.160 thing is, I got there at nine. I left a four thirty, 469 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.319 you know what I mean. And it's like, well, you know, 470 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.359 that could be like there's not enough time that could be for his writing to 471 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:20.759 know like when the cipher ends and stops and something else changes or something you 472 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.480 have no idea. I mean, there could be something beyond that for real, 473 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.880 right, It's like even like like the next phase. If the words 474 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.880 don't make you know, like grammatical sense in a row, then you have 475 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.519 to ask yourself, Okay, what is the Then you go back to Nick 476 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.119 and like, what's the jama you know, the jamatia value of each one 477 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.319 of these and in relations with one another, and see if there's some kind 478 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.839 of other code there. Right, there's so many ways it could be, 479 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:49.720 or it could just be random. I don't fend them with him. Maybe 480 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.720 he's like, somebody's gonna mind fuck my shit so much. I'm gonna do 481 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.559 this now, Yes, exactly, and this is just gonna mind fuck people 482 00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.200 one day down the road. I know it. He did like the than 483 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.160 that, And I think a lot of times, like I like, we 484 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:06.000 kind of got into our when we first talked Nick that I think he purposely 485 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.000 was leading people astray if they would, because if you can manipulate as well, 486 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:13.760 screw them literally, you know, have fun with them and use them 487 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.000 as whatever, you know, peon toys. That he would. But I 488 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.159 don't think he had a lot of respect for the majority of the people that 489 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.400 were as followers. I think he was a kind of you know, spiteful 490 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.440 towards a lot of For him to call use the word fags when he was 491 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.280 bisexual, this is like weird, it's for emphasis. He said like, 492 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:32.760 it's like, but not only really mean him, but he's calling you a 493 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:38.440 weak you know. Oh even I think he's considered his followers even slaves to 494 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.920 the gods himself. I do think he's thought that. M I think when 495 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.320 you, when you look at how much just the intricacy went into just journal 496 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.199 writing, you you do develop that he was some sort of a genius, 497 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.679 very or highly intelligent. Let's just go with that, right, highly intelligent. 498 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.519 And I wonder how much of when you surround yourself with people that basically 499 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.320 just repeat everything you say or just believe everything you tell them. I think 500 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.199 it grows foul in your mouth at some point that you're no longer being challenged, 501 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.840 that the people around you are just basically becoming parrots, and that you 502 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.800 are not growing or because you're intelligent, you crave that intelligence, you crave 503 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.239 that growth. So yeah, I mean, just imagine if nobody has anything 504 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.239 to add, like nothing, no input, nothing, They're not bringing anything 505 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:27.079 to the table of themselves and they're not even questioning what you say. You 506 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:29.079 may you may as a lead them off a cliff like a pied piper, 507 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:34.280 right this sucket whatever, If you're gonna if you're gonna follow me. You 508 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.679 just gave me license to take you wherever the hell I want to take you. 509 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.800 You know, That's what I think is like should even be like thinking 510 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.320 about that today? Yeah, oh what made me make this correlation? But 511 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.559 like I was kind of thinking about how like you know, magicians or you 512 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.119 have like all these like all right, you have all croll these books, 513 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.960 he's got all these levers, and you do have like other people have put 514 00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.760 out o this stuff, and like in a sense, in a way, 515 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:01.960 if they're really occultists, you know, then they're the real deal, which 516 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:06.719 I do think there's some of them out there where what you're putting out if 517 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.800 you're really I guess, trying to do the best. It's almost as if 518 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:19.199 people scientists putting out research papers that's actually legit showing like you know, evidence 519 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.599 of something. Oh you know, it's like they're trying to advance on an 520 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:27.960 idea or a theory. How is this done? And I haven't seen much 521 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.000 advancement in a long long time really when it comes to magic, Like you 522 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.760 really don't see people kind of like coming out and saying like some of the 523 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:38.440 weird outlandis stuff that I say, and I know I'm not the only one, 524 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.719 but like you're not hearing that kind of like as people's experience with magic. 525 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.320 So in my opinion, like how far is all this knowledge that they've 526 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.159 gotten or given us so that we're getting either being misunderstood, it's just fucking 527 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:57.119 garbage or mind fucking us, you know, because we're not we're not we're 528 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.920 not handing anything back in and being like here, this is for the next 529 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.679 generation of people to hopefully get you any father. That's not happening, right, 530 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.639 that hasn't happened in a long time within occultism and magic. So like 531 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:14.199 there's a fucking problem. Yeah, there's something. There's a problem with the 532 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:19.400 paperwork, with the scientific paperwork that's been published in magic and occultism. There's 533 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.440 something wrong with it. And if they and if those people got fed up 534 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.960 with that, that scenario, that atmosphere, and they decided, you know 535 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.719 what, let's screw the next few generations up because they're not going to even 536 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.519 look into whether or not we're telling them the truth. Yes, really, 537 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.920 there's some apologists out there for Crowley that uh, so many of them. 538 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.400 Oh yeah, there was just one woman I can't remember. So Yo's I 539 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.679 never met the fucking guy. I never spent the imagine you spend at least 540 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.280 ten minutes in his fucking head. No, that's impossible. We don't know 541 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.360 who he is. So how can you cook for a guy like that? 542 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.440 Right? In which in what she said is when he's saying these things about 543 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.119 the seven year old blonde boy as being the best there, she's like, 544 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.079 oh, and that he's done this a hundred and eighty five times in the 545 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.199 year or whatever. She's like, oh, she was talking about the orgasm. 546 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.159 Yes, I'm like, give me a fucking break. I mean, 547 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.519 like he could be plained about it because he was covered. He was you 548 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.039 know, he was intelligence. These people were eating out a bomb in his 549 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.880 hand and he was And when people say, oh, paper clip Nazis, 550 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.519 I'm like, do you not understand what Croley was doing? Like paper clip 551 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.599 Nazi? My ass Like, this guy was the one who revived all these 552 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:30.000 ancient mystery school like torture methods. It wasn't just it wasn't just paper clip. 553 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.719 He had to understand what was going on with Nazism for him to give 554 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.840 Winston Churchill the peace sign to defeat the swastika. He understood what was going 555 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.880 on? I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 556 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.400 like he I mean so like, but like you never heard him say anything 557 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.039 about it, did he? But if he understood what was going on, 558 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.599 In my opinion, you'd realize this is a magical mind fuck. Why aren't 559 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.280 you calling it out, you know, if you're actually caring about humanity not 560 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.280 being fucked even more? No, because magic should be about taking off the 561 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.760 chains, not throwing more on your followers. Yeah, and what do you 562 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.159 think about the Lusitania? Because he went over on it twice and then apparently 563 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:13.360 the plan was made. I don't know, I don't know have even said 564 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.039 you you know, it's it's it's interesting how UFOs got real big after he 565 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:20.719 supposedly died too. Yeah, he went around opening portals into walking away. 566 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.960 It's probably had something to do with it, all right, I would love 567 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.280 to let's uh, we kind of veered off there a while. Let's get 568 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.920 back to you when you're a book man. I'm sorry topic no, no, 569 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:31.840 I mean it's still this is a great chat. But I mean I 570 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.760 do want to go back to you. You're the guest, you know, 571 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.559 and you got this book, so I didn't want you to you know, 572 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.559 promote it a little bit more. One thing I did notice about uh, 573 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.960 you know, it's funny, like even Behold the Pale Horse. I never 574 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.159 really fully read that book, but one thing I did think was funny is 575 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:55.000 that it was hugely popular in prison and amongst gang members. And I think 576 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.440 it was because it's like, oh yeah, we're like it was a way 577 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.840 for them to hate the government even more, like forget about like the kilos 578 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.719 I was selling. It's like, oh, well, you're corrupt at a 579 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.679 cult system, so now it's like your fault. I'm in here, but 580 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.199 you know what I'm saying, but you know it's your fault. I shot 581 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.159 the fucking dude down the street because this is my turf, you know. 582 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.840 But like it, it seemed to be real big in prison when I had 583 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.960 time prison. I think Cooper actually may have commented on that before that you'd 584 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.079 be surprised what type of people have read his book and actually are supporting, 585 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.000 like and wanting to learn more. And he would have he would have support 586 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.039 in all the strangest places if he ever needed it. No, there was 587 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.079 a lot of a lot of his stuff going around that I noticed, sure, 588 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.360 and like in this book, like I actually bring in. At first, 589 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.719 when I was reading this guy's book, Mascheme Hole by Michael W. 590 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.119 Ford, I had no idea that there was an order nine angles connection. 591 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.079 It just Babylonian magic and that was it. Babylonian Magicschume Hole. So I'm 592 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:04.039 reading this thing and I'm learning some stuff, and Niggashita is this uh deity 593 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.559 and it's the conducia symbol. It's the two snakes coil it and this thing, 594 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.920 it's like, so forget about this staff of Hermes, forget about this 595 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.199 Sclepias, so forget about you know, mercury. This is where this ship 596 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.599 comes from. And this thing was like the plague giver. So that's what 597 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.000 they adopted for for allopathy. So they're straight up telling you right in your 598 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:22.480 face if you go deep enough in the history, and it all comes from 599 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:28.440 Babylon. It's telling you what we're doing to you, right in your face. 600 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:35.119 And I'm holding an imaginary staff in my hand. I think that's really 601 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.360 anybody, but it's it's like I can even if you want me to read 602 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:44.880 that little quick spy, it's a line and I'll show you the picture real 603 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.599 quick too. For those of you on the podcast will get a lot out 604 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.320 of this. Uh so on this that one side, that's like a glass 605 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.320 or like some kind of chalice, right, and then you'll see the Pazuzu 606 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.719 on the other side. You get illustrations in this book. Yeah, a 607 00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:06.119 couple in a this is coming from asking Hall says as a as a healing 608 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:10.440 god, Ningozita is symbolized as the crowned serpent, the wise one who brings 609 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.519 fertility of mind and body. Ninguzeita is also able to ravage the land with 610 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.760 plague and fever as well, much like Pazuzu. His manifestations are varied, 611 00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.719 yet usually always appeared as a serpent in some way. And then it says, 612 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.679 however, the god of war, plague and the underworld, who later 613 00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:35.320 resides with the Rishkagal for half the year is Nergal probably and this is me 614 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:40.119 talking, probably because he gave the Curator of the dead so much business. 615 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.159 And then Rikala is the name of the Babylonian underworld, as in the home 616 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.320 of many demons, monsters, and many take the form of serpents and dragons. 617 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.280 They will at times feed on the etheric substance of mankind, which is 618 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:59.760 best put as highly high intensity emotions such as fear and anxiety. They can 619 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.840 all also cause sickness and death by poison and plague. The brotherhood of death. 620 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.880 I think we all know that means like right, the soul bones and 621 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.880 people of that nature assumes this role, and many invoke and may invoke these 622 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:19.039 ancient demons in magical workings as hoper agents and their eugenic coling agendas. And 623 00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.880 it says another rendition to Pezuzu from the Pezuzu blog shows his member as the 624 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.199 snake itself. Here he also has a scorpion tail. The venoms of both 625 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.239 snakes and scorpions are widely used in toxic poisonous pharmaceuticals. And I won't use 626 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:35.320 that other word, but you know that thing that you get poked in the 627 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.920 arm, So I think we're going to be yeah, yeah, it's a 628 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:45.079 sea celtic biotech and crops inceessicides, pesticides, including but not limited to any 629 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.679 means, by any means, round up which also contains gly foss a. 630 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.320 I'm almost done. And then it says the sex organ being the administrator of 631 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.679 venomous poison is not unlike that of the single fang or syringe. And then 632 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:05.559 on this page. There's a picture of good old Clinton's Arkansas there, so 633 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.079 I've said on that one. So vapfha met right says the Bafmett child predator 634 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.920 here with the erect penis in the form of a caducius, or as some 635 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.719 may describe it, the allopathic medical symbol. So either the semen of the 636 00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:22.320 wicked one has healing powers like we probably told a girula to ourselves pertaining to 637 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:28.119 our own or they're plainly telling you they're injecting an evil seed into you and 638 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.719 your children. The fact that he she is erect in the presence of two 639 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.360 children should tell you something else about baff Matt and those who would identify with 640 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.000 the symbol being that the rot of Sclapias had but one serpent or snake. 641 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.280 I believe what is actually being depicted here is the staff of Hermes, the 642 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.800 trickster and god of merchants and thieves. Mercury serves the same role as Hermes, 643 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:53.519 and the Mercury aspect ties into alchemy as does Hermes. So may argue 644 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:59.360 the staff is Mercury's if you don't know the two deities are feeling the same 645 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.400 position. I would go so far as I say they are attributable to Loki, 646 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.559 the mischievous trickster. In some of the tales, Loki got his kicks 647 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:15.119 from deceiving people into murdering their own children. Maybe reconsidering, maybe reconsider the 648 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:21.039 schedule and protect your children from it at all costs, he said Loki, 649 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:27.440 because you know, he would from things that I have right in people's work 650 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.880 on hermetic kabbala, they would associate him with Hode, which is they do 651 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.280 say has a trickster like aspect to it. And you know, hermes a 652 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.280 toad to HOODI would still even fit there. And on hold, you do 653 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:44.880 get the hermaphrodite as a symbol, so like even in that sense, you're 654 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.599 still getting like the male and female, so I mean, and then you 655 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.679 have children there. I mean that that in a sense could be showing the 656 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.480 male and female aspect in that sense as well. And it's even making me, 657 00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.880 you know, besides many other you know things, I'm just trying to 658 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.480 say. You know, it's just interesting, you know how that old kind 659 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:06.760 of does line up symbolism was And on the lower level, people who are 660 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.039 walking by it, they're going to see two children. And this this go 661 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.760 meant to like shock the fucking sight. Anyway, it's meant right, yeah, 662 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.519 but are they going to notice that that symbol there is supposed to be 663 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.760 an erection in the presence of children? That's you know what I mean? 664 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.880 Yeah, click, I mean there's even more offensive if you actually look at 665 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:29.480 it a little bit too long, you know. No, for sure. 666 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.440 I remember even when I was in uh, I was in Salem, even 667 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:38.760 the last three times I went, I was like, oh, I think 668 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.880 they had like a I don't know if it was like a church of Sainting, 669 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.639 that they had some kind of place there where you could actually go and 670 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:46.960 see their bahamett. I was like, oh, I'm going to go. 671 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.880 I'm going to go. And I still was just like once I got there, 672 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.079 I'm like, no, I'm not going, Like I can't even pull 673 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:58.119 myself to do it. Like, I'm just like, this is so silly 674 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.159 you wanted to have it. Store that's right across the street from a Catholic 675 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.000 Catholic church, and there's a giant statue in there. There's all kinds of 676 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.599 those wax you know that things that you do ceremonially, all kinds of stuff 677 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.440 they can sell there, and it's all kinds of daphamets and other kind of 678 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.639 weird looking demon thingies. And I don't know what else are depicting for, 679 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.719 like, you know there whatever they call that thing that they do with the 680 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:23.559 Day of the Day of the Dead and last, but there's all kinds of 681 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:30.920 stuff. There's there's a life size demon female with you know something. I 682 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:37.639 don't know what she is, but she has detailed preston a couter right there 683 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:44.960 is It isn't really hard to do because I'm five five, but it looks 684 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.280 like chilling there. Do not touch I'm like, yeah, no problem, 685 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.000 put my arm around it. Take a picture. Yeah, there's probably something 686 00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:58.159 market they're obsessed with that. Yeah, that part is there. Yeah, 687 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.719 And I don't know if is that Is that a female though, or is 688 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.719 that yeah? Yeah, yeah, because all I ever seen is the straight 689 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:10.639 up skull depictions. Yeah. They than they have the Catarina, which is 690 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.480 the Day of the Dead girl. Yeah. I'm glad you pronounced it because 691 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.679 I wanted to build it as good as you. That's funny because whenever I've 692 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.599 ever thought of that or seen that, it's always just been like a face. 693 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.400 I don't think like the thing is is because I've I'd normally seen it 694 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.840 tattoos, so it's never been a body with it. It's always just been 695 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.599 the phase. Yeah, and I think that was something else I didn't know 696 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:36.119 about until I went to prison, of those tattoos. I'm not gonna ask 697 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.039 steroids. Steroids. I've talked about it always so before. Yeah, yeah, 698 00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.079 yeah at the time it four dicks for soon on a steroids on the 699 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.199 internet. Ah, that's nothing. It was a skid bit. It help 700 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.519 help build the character, can tell you that much. It definitely. It 701 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.840 was definitely a fucking experience and not one I expected. I maybe I'm lucky 702 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.280 or whatever, but it's still was a bizarre I was just like, Yo, 703 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.719 this is prison, Like is that one of those things where you go 704 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.719 in with a what do they call it? A yeah, a minor in 705 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.519 in one thing to come out with as a as a doctorate and some other 706 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:22.440 yo. You know. Yo. There was people then that were like that'n 707 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.760 this is a crazy shit. I'm so sorry. I'm not like trying to 708 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:29.480 get over you or anything like. Yo. There was because I remember because 709 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.280 it was even like a dude who like didn't even come in for steroids, 710 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.599 but like somehow got obsessed with them. And he was from New York as 711 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.760 well, and I ended up running into him. I actually ended up living 712 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.840 in his room for a little bit until he left. But like and then 713 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.440 once he found out that, like I was into steroids, and like I 714 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.880 was like making them, you know, I was like fucking turned my kitchen 715 00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.280 into a lab and I was actually like taking the hormones and adding it to 716 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.960 the oil, you know, all that shit, but bottling it up, 717 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:02.840 you know, and making So like this kid was like before he met me, 718 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.360 he was already like this kid was legit taking classes there because you can 719 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:14.079 actually take you can take some pretty impressive classes if you actually have like prior 720 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.519 whatever credits or if you were in college. But there's some serious classes there. 721 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.280 And he was like taking like chemistry classes and shit where he was gonna 722 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.639 start like making stubboids. But like besides him, you know, so like 723 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.000 when he met me, he fell in love and like was under this illusion 724 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.159 that we're gonna like start this shit up. And I'm like, dude, 725 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.320 I'm not coming back here, Like I'm finding a different way. I'm just 726 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.920 not coming back here. Dude, you you just did ten years and like 727 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.719 and like no, not for nothing, for nothing, that's a egg on 728 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.440 this dude or anything. But like he got popped for two guns, and 729 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.559 like he was from I think it was the Bronx of Brooklyn. He drove 730 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:57.719 to like Kansas. He drove states to go hand the feds guns. Oh, 731 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.360 like Yo, they didn't even have to leave them their fucking house or 732 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:05.119 their station, naking. You came to them, man, Like, you're 733 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.960 really fucking dumb. I would never commit a crime with you, criminal? 734 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:15.079 INTI what you're literally for two fucking guns? You put them in your car 735 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.039 and drove states, which fucked you even more because now every state you went 736 00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.559 into and went through is federal? Man, Like, are you that fucking 737 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.280 dumb? For two I'd be like, yo, bro, sorry, you 738 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:32.000 gotta come here. And then like the amount that I would even attempt to 739 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.639 make it worth traveling with, I'd really have to question who the fuck are 740 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.159 you too? Like come on, I was just like, dude, like 741 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.000 you're having problems. You can't sell that shit in the streets in Brooklyn, 742 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.960 right, Like what the fuck? Like you're a stupid criminal. But besides 743 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.599 him, there was tons and tons of people that literally were like learning failed 744 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.719 fucking attempts from prisoners thinking they were gonna do it the right way when they 745 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.239 get out, and that screw up like them. I was just like, 746 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:00.960 yo, Like, these people are in here because they didn't do it right, 747 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.239 and you think now you're going to do it right when you get out, 748 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.920 when you already have a record and the fence are gonna be fucking watching. 749 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.360 You're probably the first year or two anyway, it's so funny. No, 750 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:13.199 like, just fucking stay here, tell him you don't want halfway house 751 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.000 and hang out for a while. Don't go home? Do you remember that 752 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.000 line in American history? Actually, he's like embarrassed. What do you mean 753 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.639 embarrassed? Nobody in here got away with anything? What are you embarrassed about? 754 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.760 You stink to it? Chilly kill. We all got busted. Obviously 755 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.039 we weren't that great at what we were doing. We thought we were, 756 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.920 but there was a rat. No, we fucked up somewhere. It's like, 757 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.320 so you want me to work with you when I get out. Haven't 758 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:39.800 you seen the movie Blow? How did that end? How did that? 759 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:46.280 Yo? I was in with him? No? Yes, yes, he 760 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:51.760 was in four Diggs Jesus, Yeah, holy shit, Yes, I met 761 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.840 him he made me feel bad for him in that movie. At least It's 762 00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:57.920 like, I'm gonna do this my daughter, and I was like, got 763 00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.920 me here because I have a daughter. I was like, that would be 764 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.519 very upset. He was a grumpy dude about that situation. I imagine, 765 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:10.880 I imagine being given male he get pistol Off sometimes an interesting character, but 766 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.559 I think he's stuck to his guns. I'm pretty sure he left prison and 767 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:20.320 disappeared. Yeah, they have no idea where he is. That's good. 768 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.199 Yeah, I don't know. Man, Like, you mess with the wrong 769 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:30.440 chick and she puts a wedge between you and your family. Right sucks. 770 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:37.960 Oh well, anyway, prison memory was the energy of the No No, 771 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.159 it was funny. Listen, it's at the time sucked. But I mean, 772 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.079 at some point, I think in order to make it through, you 773 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.960 have to start looking at as like just one long drawn out comedy until it 774 00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.840 ends, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot of you know, 775 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.840 I'll even say I met some of the funniest fucking people in there, because 776 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:58.920 eventually you have to like just to deal with this fucking retardedness of prison, 777 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.159 you know, to even deal with the people that you're in there with, 778 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:06.039 because sometimes they're even worse than the fucking corrections officers. You have to like 779 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.320 just constantly be finding ways to like pull pranks, say silly shit, do 780 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.079 dumb stuff, troll all the motherfuckers, you know, start up a fucking 781 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.920 bullshit, fucking you know, little bullshit story and watch it fucking turn into 782 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:21.119 a fucking fight three days later. You know, there's all sorts of things 783 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.760 you'll do in prison to like laugh and and get away. You know, 784 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.920 I guess to deal with your time. But uh, it was definitely an 785 00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.079 experience, you know what I'm saying. And I I mean, I guess 786 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.000 I didn't want to have to lose two years to it, but like, 787 00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:36.039 it definitely has opened my eyes. I guess to like ways that the world 788 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.199 is that I didn't know because I was never subject to it, right man, 789 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.920 you know. Yeah, that's uh, it's the weird stuff is when 790 00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.840 you're oh, oh that's offensive to you as well. Sorry, I wasn't 791 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.800 supposed to go to the bathroom. Just now got it by bad. It's 792 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:55.199 like all kinds of stupid things, like oh, I only spent a couple 793 00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.880 of months, but that was something stupid. Oh my God, I'm see 794 00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:00.960 I was okay, I was out a low, So I guess like that's 795 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.719 what made it like when I say it was like even just bizarre, Like 796 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.000 there was just things going on there that I just was not thinking was going 797 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.079 to be acceptable or loud or just out in the open, and I was 798 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.400 just like whoa. So like you know, like it really was a very 799 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.679 different experience than going to like a medium, where like all of a sudden, 800 00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:22.000 now you had to start kissing everybody's fucking ants around you. Yeah, 801 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:23.440 for no reason. I just came in. I don't even fucking know you. 802 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.199 For all I know, you fucking like eight kids on the fucking weekends 803 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.079 or diddled kids. It just didn't get caught for that. Just because you 804 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.000 didn't get caught for that didn't mean that you did it. Didn't do it, 805 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.400 you know what I'm saying. So like I'm just supposed to respect some 806 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.280 other fucker for no fucking reason and sign there bullshit and think like them. 807 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.239 It gets real fucking weird and mind controlled in prison from the prisoners, I 808 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.239 think. I think the biggest takeaway I had from that is I don't ever 809 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:53.320 want to do another burpie O. It's like whenever it's like, now you 810 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:57.480 just killed the end. Now you just killed it. Fucking burpiees bro. 811 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:04.119 I never once hit them again once I got out. Never once. I 812 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.320 like, fuck no, I remember I'd be doing that ship with my boys. 813 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.679 Like sometimes they'd get up early and do like shit before breakfast, and 814 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.599 like there was one kid that I knew, like he had he had a 815 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.280 really good thing going on, but like he did burpies and I hated it. 816 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.360 And like every once in a while when i'd go, I'd be like, 817 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.880 what the fuck did I fucking come here again? And it's like now 818 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.400 I got to stay or I look like a fucking pitch. So I'd be 819 00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.159 like I hated purpis by the time I left prison. Dude, they had 820 00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.320 some stupid rule like if you're thirty four, if you're thirty four and above, 821 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:31.400 you don't have to do them, but if you're not, you have 822 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.760 to do them with it. I'm like, what the who makes these fucking 823 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:42.000 arbitrary cut off lines whatever? Somebody who was thirty four all across America or 824 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.639 doing burpies and across the pitch. That's That's the only thing that's gone through 825 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:47.760 my head. Yeah, yeah, right, they're paid for that. I've 826 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.719 seen people. I've seen people come out and actually get like YouTube channels going 827 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.559 off of like jail workouts. Yeah, so funy. They need to do 828 00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:05.679 something they can't get employed, go fuck so funny. Yeah. I remember 829 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.440 when I got out. I got out and like one of my boys I 830 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.920 used to like hardcore WT the gym with him. Another guy from New York 831 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.880 that I met, cool dude, and uh, I remember what he got 832 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.079 out before me, but he had much more time. And I remember when 833 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.360 I got out, he was like sending me like you would do channels and 834 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:22.760 he was like, yo, dude, He's like these motherfuckers are making money 835 00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.039 off of fucking jail workouts on social media. And I was like no, 836 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:30.119 he was like yo, He's like, I don't even think this guy went 837 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.880 to jail. And he's like sending me shit. He's like, look, 838 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.760 he's like, I don't think he even went to jail. He's like sending 839 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.119 me like personal shit he's trying to find on him. I'm like, what 840 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.400 the fuck, dude, I calm down. It's just fun. It was 841 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:44.480 so funny, though. There was a whole fat for that during the lockdowns, 842 00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.360 right and they called it bodyweight exercises. That's right, that's right. 843 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.079 They did so you couldn't find any any of the weight stuff. But to 844 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.079 save your life because everything was already bought out to do the body weight. 845 00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:00.920 Yeah, those good times. Luckily I had my stuff, but yeah, 846 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:05.760 it was Uh. I hated that. That's what that was the downfall of 847 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.960 the store. By the way, it is two years after that, which 848 00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:09.000 is like the War of Pitraition. I finally I was like, here's the 849 00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:15.719 keys. Oh yeah, but it's all good because we're probably gonna start up 850 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.000 one here Yuma, closer to home. I actually got us out of California 851 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:23.760 because of our first wellness check with our daughter and like, oh, you 852 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.559 know what time it is, don't you? I go, yeah, you 853 00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.480 know what time it isn't because you're not doing that, motherfucker. So I 854 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.800 didn't wanted my daughter to be constantly harassed or us to be harassed or pressured 855 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.480 into getting those things we can't talk about. Oh my god. Really. 856 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.440 Oh. I moved us three hours away and I just went back and forth 857 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:51.039 to the store. After that. My family's oh well that was twenty sixteen, 858 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.440 and it was just like, well, you know what, it is 859 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.760 and go beat red when I told me wasn't going to do it, like, 860 00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.760 uh yeah, chances are they killed my two month old other with those, 861 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:06.559 you're not touching my daughter with them. So that was that. And 862 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:08.159 after that I just started looking and I was like, well, the closest 863 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:12.880 place on the other side of any border would be Yuma. So that's what 864 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.440 we did, and I just made the commute. Had to pay way more 865 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.920 in labor because I wasn't just right around the corner anymore. So I had 866 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.679 to you know, trust it to employees and stuff like that. So it 867 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:28.360 was it's worth it. She's doing very well and she never had to have 868 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.800 one of those, so good. Nice, yeah, nice, very great. 869 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.960 Something I did want to ask you now, like with your book, 870 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.079 are you kind of like going into like things that he'd like may be covered 871 00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.599 and maybe going into them deeper. I didn't get to look at the bookyet. 872 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.000 You just sent it to me lastnight. There's no way. I'll give 873 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.320 you a quick scenario of the chapters and just so he does pop up a 874 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:52.000 lot, but not so much that it's saturated, like it's still my book. 875 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.119 I mean a lot of it's my research. But if there's something like 876 00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.880 that he said that I really resonated with, and it was one of his 877 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.559 things. I'll let him speak for himself in the book. And uh so 878 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.239 there's a lot of this sort of transcribed like the Darkness in your Deduction. 879 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.039 There's one called darkness and that's kind of like the set the setup for his 880 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:16.440 Mystery Babylon series. But then I go right into Edmund Ronine, who wrote 881 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:22.039 the book The Master's Carpet or Maha Bone. And Edmund Romaine was like a 882 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:31.079 very well respected, very highly regarded freemason who was apparently finding lost information and 883 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:36.559 trying to like give the structure back into freemasonry, and then he stumbled up 884 01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:42.239 across some information that he didn't like too much and he kind of became one 885 01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.280 of the worst enemies. And whether that was contrived or not, I don't 886 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:49.320 know. But Edmund Renine kind of stands out a saying like this is the 887 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.119 cult of ball over and over and over again. You know you're gonna be 888 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.519 You're gonna be tied to the cable toe of Satan if you, uh, 889 01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.599 if you when you enter these by your own free will in accord, you've 890 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.079 you've surrendered yourself to the order. It's it's very he he doesn't mince any 891 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:07.760 words when he talks about it. So I go into that a lot, 892 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:14.400 and then I go into the Ugraic text for the Cult of ball One one 893 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.480 chapter called us a spider does not stick to its own web, talking about 894 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.639 how, like they meant, they master and manipulate everything, but they don't 895 01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.880 get caught up with the real bults of their own bullshit, right uh Bablon 896 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:29.519 and the mystery schools, morals and mysteries, a little bit of a a 897 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:34.119 little bit of a Albert Pike in that. And then I go through some 898 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.840 of the Masonic initiation, like the first the first entered a prince of this 899 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.559 one, and then some of the Widow's Son, which is the amount of 900 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.159 Masonic account of Hiram a biff going into Egypt, a little bit the oral 901 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.199 and written Kabbala, and then I start talking about Isaac Luria said, this 902 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:51.760 is where it really starts to kick off, is like the lorin Kabbala Jacob 903 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:55.159 Frank And then we start talking about Ignatius, Ignacius of Loyola, the Knights, 904 01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.320 Templars, Hospitaller, and the Holy See in the Child's a very interesting 905 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:07.039 connection there because after Napoleon pretty much beat the piss out of them, they 906 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.519 took a huge I don't even think it was a low and I think it 907 01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:12.800 was just given to them by the Rothschilds. Like in today's money, it 908 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.840 was like ridiculously phenomenal modes. And some might see that as being the Rothschilds 909 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:22.280 own them, but I think it's Rothschild's were servants to Rome, and whatever 910 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:28.559 their bloodline was back in Rome, I think still prevails that you can see 911 01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.119 old paintings of them with what looks like the star of Saint Sylvester THESS across 912 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:36.000 the Saint Sylvester or the eight point is a cross of the Knights of Malta 913 01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:39.239 one or the other that they're wearing. So that's either given to you as 914 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:44.519 naokolad for your service to Rome, or it's indicating that you're part of an 915 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.639 order. So if you if you're wearing that, you're not you're not a 916 01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:52.280 You're you're a servant to them. You're a protector of that order, right, 917 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:57.880 So call yourself a Jewishionist or a Francist if you want. But I 918 01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:02.000 think Rome is still by proxy running the show. This is an interesting it's 919 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:07.119 an interesting symbol looking at it now, mm hmm. And then I go 920 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.000 into the Dome of the Rock, the Stone of Foundation, the Kaba, 921 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.760 and the black Stone of Mecca and get into some of the Saturn stuff there. 922 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.800 Oh, they can't just square Saturn. Sam Walton even pops up his 923 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:23.480 little walmarts. Oh wow, yeah, ai parasites, demons or same same. 924 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.519 So there's all there's all kinds of stuff that's covered here, and then 925 01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.719 you know, a whole lot of jumping off points for the next book to 926 01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:32.480 get into greater detail. And then we're gonna get into eugenics in the next 927 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.000 one. And oh nice eugenics. I guess that comes straight out of like 928 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.920 the Kabbala as well, and because delirious, I think eugenics is a deeply 929 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.760 underlying thing amongst a lot of cults too. Absolutely, And then you have 930 01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:51.119 like dormatism was just let's let's let's legitimize the Kabbala. Let's let's you know, 931 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.159 these people are dragging us down because they're primitive. Yeah, I think 932 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:57.880 I think you like killed the whole island worth full of people that were quote 933 01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:02.960 unquote bringing the mankind down he was like genocidal maniac. And then Thomas Huxley 934 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.480 was the guy who basically was the They called it the bulldog of the Arminism 935 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:12.159 because he was the one who was a better orator and was able to, 936 01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:15.000 like, you know, stand on stage and have their little Jesuit theater performance 937 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.360 where they pretend like they're having a conversation naturally and convince a crowd of a 938 01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:26.840 bunch of lead idiots. And it was all about destroying Christianity and destroying whatever 939 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.480 you want to think about that, but destroying anything that And again I have 940 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.559 to always measure this with the Roman Catholic Church was fucking evil. They were 941 01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.239 despotic, and they were ruining people's lives constantly. So you could understand why 942 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:43.360 there be animosity to that. But is that the same as Christianity? Probably 943 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.480 not, No, not at all, at least not these days. But 944 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:48.400 then you go back and you look at yourself, well, who are the 945 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:51.840 Christian pioneers, who are the Lutherans, who are the Protestants? It's like, 946 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.039 oh, wow, Rosicrucians. Huh he stamped up with the Rosicrucian symbol, 947 01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.039 did he? Yes? See, that was something we even came across. 948 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.079 I mean, we might even see more of it moving forward with another 949 01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.880 person were going to cover. But like the stuff that me and her have 950 01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:10.599 touched on. With Rosicrucianism, you get Lutherans, and it was a Protestant 951 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:15.039 Calvinists, yes, Calvinists, yes, Calvinists. Yeah. And the weird 952 01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.119 thing is it's like like one was like supposedly not like cool with it, 953 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:24.039 but yet you had people who were into Rosicrucian shit friends with both. So 954 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:30.039 I don't know, like which gets really weird is In that seventeen ninety five 955 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:31.920 book I'm telling You, I'm telling you about the Proofs of the Conspiracy by 956 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:41.119 John Robison, he outlines how so supposedly the Free Masonic Order is an enemy 957 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:45.159 of the of the Jesuits. But when they got you know, disbanded, 958 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.719 if you will, and then reinstated later in eighteen fourteen, they found their 959 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:51.199 way into the Free Masonic lodges as and they used them as a shield, 960 01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:55.960 right alongside Protestants who went in there because they were fleeing the fucking Jesuits. 961 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.480 So what the hell is going on with these? Like everybody was little enemies 962 01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.119 would murder each other smash your babies head on a rock, you know the 963 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:09.159 pointiard all these things that they say in their Jesuit oath, and yet they're 964 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.760 hanging out together in the Masonic logist because something else was going on there. 965 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.079 And after the seventeen eighties it was called Frankism, that's what was going on 966 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:20.760 there, and it was galvanizing all that stuff. It's very strange, very 967 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:25.960 strange stuff. Yeah, there's something up with Like, I just feel like 968 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:31.320 there's a lot of religions that really do tie back to you were occultism in 969 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.800 the sense of secret society is it's just very weird. And for me to 970 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.480 say, like Laryn Kabala and the Francis like, that's what I was going 971 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:43.039 to ask you. More like revival of ship that was going on Babylon Swumer, 972 01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:45.639 you know, like the priest Kings, the priest Craft, all that 973 01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:49.519 stuff. It's just hey, let's just let's just it was like, hey, 974 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:53.760 I just outlined the game plan. Let's go, let's go score a 975 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.360 touchdown, you know something like that. It was just they had they were 976 01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.920 organized at that point. And you said that Lowian Cabala too, right, 977 01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.519 just now, yeah, Isaac Gloria, Yeah, it was funny even you 978 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.159 know, it could have been something that Lucks brought up that was like the 979 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.400 one unfortunate thing. Sometimes with covering something with like somebody else, you may 980 01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.920 not really absorb everything they are covering because you didn't cover it. You know, 981 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.800 you didn't look it up yourself. So maybe lux might have mentioned something 982 01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.840 about it, and I just don't remember. But when we were even covered 983 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:26.599 the frankests, I mean, like I knew that he had his own kind 984 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:30.440 of version of Kabbala that he was using, because I even think it's cramming. 985 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.039 I guess take it for who it came from. But even Blovotsky even 986 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.880 said that that version of Kabbala was the most corrupted. She said it was 987 01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:43.960 the most corrupted version you could be using. So like I never I took 988 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.480 that quote that she talks about it. Yeah, right, so it's like, 989 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.119 yo, even if she's saying that, you might have to like really 990 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.920 question, you know, but then again, you know she's another ocultist. 991 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:55.800 You never know. But like I did find that interesting, But like I 992 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:59.760 never really knew the name of the style of Kabbala that he was using. 993 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.760 I'm sure, I mean, I don't know how maybe I don't remember from 994 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:08.000 the Francas, and I heard somebody else recently say it last week and now 995 01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:12.559 you today, and I've never heard it until recently. So what's funny about 996 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.920 the Luring kabbala quote unquote, is that it was just a collection of Isaac 997 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:21.319 Luria's papers that his followers like organized and it later became known as the Lurian 998 01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:27.359 Kabbalah. We were in there about the you know, the breaking of the 999 01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.680 vessels and the husks and the profane and all this other crap, and you 1000 01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:34.560 know, having the Chakaina kind of wilding and the crap with us and all 1001 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:39.680 this other stuff. So having to wed that out and get getting rid of 1002 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.880 everything, kind of basically crushing everything and sending all energy back to source and 1003 01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:49.079 the big redemption through sin, if you will. But here's another interesting thing 1004 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.000 of the other book that I was talking about, transhumanism. Actually, David 1005 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.960 Livingstone is going to be on Friday with me. It's Crowley was born to 1006 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.000 a wealthy family which belonged to the Plymouth Brethren, six ers of the Moravian 1007 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:08.359 Brethren of Count Zinzendorff. After reading Arthur Edward Wade's book Black Magic and the 1008 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:12.640 past end of packs, I think it says, which hinted to the existence 1009 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.960 of a secret group of initiates who dispensed truth and wisdom to the worthy. 1010 01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:25.640 A young Alisair Crowley wrote Wait and was directed to read Eckertausen's book. Crowley's 1011 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:30.079 search for the for the secret Wisdom eventually led him to become a neophyte in 1012 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.239 the Golden Dawn. So this, this is how it goes from the Brethren 1013 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.319 that we know are Sabotine Francis straight straight into the Golden Dawn. Like he's 1014 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:41.640 being led into the Golden Dawn with with Purpor, which purported to be the 1015 01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:46.800 visible and earthly outer order of the Great White Brotherhood. So that's that's pretty 1016 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:54.159 interesting. And apparently Crowley also was convinced that he was the readincarnation of a 1017 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.520 Leifis Levi, Yeah, who died the same day or the same year he 1018 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:04.439 was born. Always makes me think of Willcox thinking he's a reincarnation of fuck 1019 01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:09.800 some guy that he always claims to be reincarnation, Not David Wilcock, not 1020 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:16.399 that guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's like a conspiracy dude. Yeah yeah, 1021 01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.680 he claims that he's like sock. I can't believe I forgot it out 1022 01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:26.159 that it's not even funny, like you know, just burns sense and run 1023 01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:28.479 through the tall grass. It's I can't with that, dude, I can't 1024 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:35.760 joke. Oh man, yeah, did you? Uh? I know I 1025 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:41.439 had mentioned at the beginning when it comes to like you would probably know more 1026 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.119 than me with Bill Cooper. But like, isn't there actually a lot of 1027 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:47.119 things that he was talking about in that book that like has kind of like 1028 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:53.000 taken place or we're headed in those directions. Oh yeah, yeah, there's 1029 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.399 a lot that you know. I have another shirt that I made, not 1030 01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.840 this one, but I wore when I was on with Michael Adams, so 1031 01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:01.359 I got to I got to be on like his his main stage, like 1032 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:05.159 through through one of these things. But it says Bill Cooper was right on 1033 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:08.880 it. And the reason why I made that shirt is because I went, 1034 01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:15.279 I got uh do you call it press passes media passes to go to the 1035 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:19.199 Las Vegas Reawakened Tour, which is like an a doctor nation camp for pro 1036 01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:24.199 Trump and you know, Christian Zionism. Before it even happened in October, 1037 01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:29.039 they were already sending the stage for that shit, and you know, working 1038 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.920 everybody through the merchants stands on the way out the door too. Of course, 1039 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.600 each time there was a new speaker by the book, by the book. 1040 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.800 Uh but what was I talking about? Oh yeah, so I saw 1041 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.920 a bunch of people walk around with these shirts. I said, Alex Jones 1042 01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:45.680 was right on it. I'm like, Alex Jones stoles steals everything thing from 1043 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:48.319 all other people. I'm like, he doesn't right about anything or his people. 1044 01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:55.279 His handlers tell him what to say exactly, exactly exactly. I'm glad 1045 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:59.720 you said that. Yeah, why what everybody says? Alex Jones on my 1046 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:02.239 show always like yeah, okay, Yeah, it's like I have to worry 1047 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:04.359 about like what they're gonna say. And it's like, you know, do 1048 01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:08.680 I laugh at this or do I just like sitting here like oh okay, 1049 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:12.319 brilliant man. Yeah, that brilliant man is definitely not just an actor. 1050 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.279 Yeah, you know what, you know what is listen. One of the 1051 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.560 even to get on him, but like even one of the funniest things I 1052 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.680 think is is like yo, at one point he was even denying that Bohemian 1053 01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:24.880 Grove was up to anything, and I was like, motherfucker, it was 1054 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:29.079 technically you who showed us what was going on, and now you're denying that 1055 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.199 they do anything or they have any of importance. Make up your mind, 1056 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:35.119 man. Yeah, back when it was okay to talk about Zionism, apparently 1057 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:39.479 in a different era, in a different decade, he was all about screaming 1058 01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:40.960 out of it. And now he's like no, no, no, no, 1059 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:48.560 no no no, he's talking to other people. Impression. Yeah, 1060 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.760 he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like a really entertaining Mark 1061 01:12:51.880 --> 01:13:00.399 Levine. Yeah, if they're like to and he takes off the glasses that 1062 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:06.000 guys thoughts fucking spas it out. I mean you would be you would be 1063 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:10.359 burned in with a lot of pressure if you knew what was making the frogs 1064 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:16.640 gay. Oh ye, I'm sorry. Right, so let's let's get back 1065 01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:21.039 to I guess that's not the real thing, but that's what it does with 1066 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:26.479 truth, right. It's like atrozine doesn't just do that the frogs adene Atrezine 1067 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:30.920 messes people up. And plus you're getting shot with things that have, you 1068 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.720 know, maybe different sexes of dead babies in it being injected to you, 1069 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:40.840 confusing your your your biological makeup. So he's making something that's true into something 1070 01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:44.560 ridiculous and clowny so that people don't look at it anymo. And I think 1071 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:46.079 that's how he washes truth, and that's how he ruins truth, is that 1072 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.000 when it comes from the crazy man, it's no longer valid to anybody. 1073 01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:54.680 That's exactly what's going on through a lot. I'm glad you saw it that 1074 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:57.399 way. I'm not even gonna go into it anymore. But I think what 1075 01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.399 you're seeing right there is being done by a little of important people. It's 1076 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:05.720 keeping people totally ignorant to ship that's really fucking deep and important. That's just 1077 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:10.720 my opinion. Yes, all right, So back to back to Bill Cooper 1078 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.720 some of the things, Yeah that was made. They made the shirt. 1079 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:16.520 You made that shirt, that's right. Yeah, I totally got yeah, 1080 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:21.319 yeah, yeah, the Bill Coopers was uh was right shirt. So I 1081 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:27.159 just it was funny that I had happened to be on Uh. So there's 1082 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:30.000 an Infloor's connection with with Mike Adams. Mike Adams is decent to me. 1083 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.239 He's nice guy to me. Right, So I was on the thing and 1084 01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.199 I had a chance to be sitting back. I was actually made it on 1085 01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:39.199 Info Wars myself too, due to somebody else's show. I was on that 1086 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:43.880 twice twice, not with him, but liked to other people on his whatever 1087 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.399 they told me was gonna be on Info Wars. I was like, yeah, 1088 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:48.720 it's and because he has that connection, I just thought it was great, 1089 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.720 like you know, payback. Not only did I get to wear that 1090 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:59.119 shirt, but I got to talk the deserving amount of ship about uh Stu 1091 01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:06.079 Peters and his little contrived interview with brother Nathaniel, where you know, Zionism 1092 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.560 is a nothing burger and so are the tunnels and all this other shit. 1093 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:11.439 This white watch that they were doing. I'm like, yeah, really, 1094 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.760 so let's talk about that for a second. Yo. That shit in New 1095 01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:15.439 York they cover that up with like in a day, Yeah, of course. 1096 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.239 I think it was like the next day, weren't they there with some 1097 01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:20.359 ent trucks and stuff felling it in. Well. I think the guy who 1098 01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:24.600 owned the other building was the one who called them in the first place, 1099 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:29.399 because his foundation was getting like weak and he was hearing them doing some kind 1100 01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:31.399 of weird chanting and the walls. He's like, the fuck is this? 1101 01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.520 And they said, well, it was only fifty fifty yards long. I'm 1102 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:40.239 like yeah, but what other tunnels did it connect you? Asshole? You 1103 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.159 know, it's like doesn't matter what that tunnel was, it's like, what 1104 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:44.800 other things did it connect you? So there's so many tunnels that were just 1105 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.560 made just for the infrastructure around that to work. How do you know they 1106 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.000 didn't tap into one of those or something. You have no idea what that 1107 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:54.479 connects to, You're right, I mean that could go to anything. And 1108 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.359 he was saying that like this brother Nathaniel was saying, I don't I don't 1109 01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:00.279 care if they're what they were pulling out of their whis just for it's just 1110 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.239 a ritual bathouse. But you have to get down to the groundwater. And 1111 01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:06.399 if you just have a little bit of groundwater, you can fill the rest 1112 01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:10.760 with tap water, but you have to have that ritual groundwater. So even 1113 01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:15.439 when they're even when they're doing something that's sacred, they're still faking it and 1114 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:19.920 they're still they're still giving you the cheap copy of it, even to themselves, 1115 01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:21.640 because it's all, yeah, just put some tap water in there, 1116 01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:25.119 now they get the ground But that was his excuse, that's what it was. 1117 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.520 But it was filthy in there, Like, how's that a sacred place? 1118 01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:30.199 For a bath house, right, It's like, so he's like, 1119 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:31.039 I don't care what they pull out of there, So you don't care if 1120 01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:32.800 they pull out of blade matchrees. You don't care if they pull out, 1121 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:38.600 but that our seats. Like so if they're throwing rotting baby parts over their 1122 01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.840 shoulder when they were feeling this, that no big deal, right because rich 1123 01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:47.520 bathouse? Come on, man looking weird. That was some weird ship and 1124 01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:58.159 now you're canceled. I'm not allowed on. This is why nobody lets me 1125 01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:04.840 go. You're flying. It's just hilarious. Lisa, how are you? 1126 01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:10.359 I'm good. I want to ask you, so, what made you pick 1127 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:16.680 Bill Cooper for the book? What do you mean, hink? Because there's 1128 01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:21.159 so many, so much stuff has been circulating lately that has been originated from 1129 01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:26.000 him, because I've listened to enough of his work to know when people are 1130 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:30.239 taking something and it's all brand new when it's recycled forty years later, thirty 1131 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:35.520 years later, twenty years later. By he hat like stupeters, like Alex 1132 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:40.159 Jones who was stealing from him when he was still alive. And I'm pretty 1133 01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:45.279 sure his buddies. In Austin's version of Silicon Valley Are the is the reason 1134 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:49.640 why Bill Cooper's website went down, because when he was getting his cyber attack 1135 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:53.159 back in the day, he said, this is all coming from Austin, 1136 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:59.960 Texas. So, you know, just because Bill himself, it might be 1137 01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.079 time for someone else to remind people what a scoundrel he is. So you 1138 01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:06.399 know, that's the reason why I wanted. I wanted this generation to at 1139 01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:11.359 least know his name and know what he was about, so that they are 1140 01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:15.399 curious enough to look for his radio shows and stuff like that, because it's 1141 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:17.600 people don't usually pick up books, but they'll listen to something while they're doing 1142 01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.399 other stuff, you know. So I transcribed a bunch of his stuff in 1143 01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:25.920 here as well as the majority of It's like I said something that I put 1144 01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:29.319 together, but I just if it worked with what I was going to talk 1145 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.279 about, then I would let Bills speak on his behalf on certain topics too, 1146 01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.239 and then I would it'd be like a jumping off point for me to 1147 01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:41.560 continue on the conversation. And there you go. So you get to introduce 1148 01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.680 the real guy, and then if you actually see like the level of character 1149 01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:51.479 of him versus what we're being given now, it's like people set your standards 1150 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:56.000 higher, you know, don't go to the sleepy ass clown in the room 1151 01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:00.199 or the angry guy who wants everybody to get into a revolution like do and 1152 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:05.720 divide the country and have everybody like if you're that anti jew on your show, 1153 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:10.600 obviously, if you're still on and not canceled, it's because they want 1154 01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:15.000 people in the comments sections to reveal their thoughts so that they can they can 1155 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:21.119 threat assess them. It's a yes, a lot of that is analysis, 1156 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:27.840 I think. So it's like, I don't know, how about you just 1157 01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:31.000 regios standards hire. This guy was a real legitimate person. He didn't make 1158 01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.800 anything, barely off of what he was doing, barely sustained life. And 1159 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:40.000 you guys have all these guys in these huge, rich studios, and you 1160 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:42.720 think that that's natural. We tell the truth, don't. You don't get 1161 01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.039 very far? What do you tell the truth? You know? What's interesting 1162 01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:48.239 too, Like you know you did have I mean, I understand a lot 1163 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:53.520 of his stuff was still circulated, but like I do, this is my 1164 01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.159 opinion. There's a difference between somebody sitting in a chair behind a microphone and 1165 01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.079 somebody's willing to go to a place that's going to be surrounded by people in 1166 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.800 person. If you're a real fucking shady piece of shit, you might be 1167 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:08.119 a little a little iffy about doing that. Yeah, you know, it's 1168 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.720 funny you say that, because a lot of times Alex Jones has booked for 1169 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.960 a lot of these things he never shows. Ever. Sometimes I'll they'll say 1170 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:18.720 he lived like via some kind of virtual like a video like what we're doing 1171 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:24.199 right now. But that's even rare. Usually, like somebody like that goof 1172 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.640 Troop. What is his name? The guy with the weird hair. Forgot 1173 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:33.119 his name? Oh, the one Troyer I forgot his first name. Verne 1174 01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:39.079 Troyer is the midget guy from from uh from Austin Powers. This guy's some 1175 01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:43.920 other Troyer. I forgot his name. But uh yeah, so he's on 1176 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:46.000 Info Wars as well, so he usually he shows up instead of Alex. 1177 01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:49.479 But yeah, you're right, Like you had you had uh Bill Cooper going 1178 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:54.720 to Wimbledon Stadium back into like I think it was ninety three or something like 1179 01:20:54.760 --> 01:21:00.000 that was just before it was just before the the Waco thing happened, because 1180 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:05.600 there was Wembley Wembley Stadium, sorry, and it was it was some people 1181 01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:10.159 had approached him and asked them to help them because they said they're after our 1182 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.439 children, and he just took their stuff. He's like, I don't know 1183 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:15.840 what you want to do. I'm from America. He was in England, 1184 01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.680 obviously, and when he later opened up his briefcase, I was looking at 1185 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.279 it and seeing the aftermath of what happened to Awake. It was people, 1186 01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:24.600 it was people from the branch Ofavidians that were trying to get him to help 1187 01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:28.640 them. Oh wow, yeah, and he's like I have to. He's 1188 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:30.439 like, I have to live with that burden. So a lot of his 1189 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.279 videos were I'm sure a lot of his broadcasts were about, you know, 1190 01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:38.600 really sticking it to people for doing what they did to the to the Davidians. 1191 01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:46.479 M yeah, wow, pretty pretty uh heavy stuff, Bren Davidians just 1192 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.039 pop up. I don't know when I love it. Uh. I think 1193 01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:53.920 if if this is okay, maybe we'll just wrap it up here. Almost 1194 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.720 an hour and a half, twenty two minutes in. I had a really 1195 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.199 great talk man. I would love to have you back on again. Sure, 1196 01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:03.239 I'll have you wont in the future. Yeah, let everybody know again 1197 01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:08.119 where they can find your stuff. Again for the listeners. As usual, 1198 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.840 the links will be in the show notes, but let the people listening know 1199 01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.960 where they can find the stuff. In the private chat. I also put 1200 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.880 it up so you can see. It's the simper se m p e R 1201 01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:20.399 fry f r y LC dot com. And then you can go there. 1202 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:23.520 There's a podcast tab. You can just click that if you want to see 1203 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:25.800 the stuff, and then the book is there and all that stuff you feel 1204 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:30.359 like hot sauce, theree you go. Also, the Rumble channel is just 1205 01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:33.800 called ball Busters, but I do put the little thing between the two ways 1206 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:40.840 because it's but all busters apparently according to the people who speak Hebrew. I 1207 01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:43.760 actually made sure I learned exactly how it's said, because people are like, 1208 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.239 what is bail busters because that's not obviously not how it's pronounced, right, 1209 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:50.479 because but that doesn't make any sense, but it does ball Busters. It's 1210 01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:55.359 medically a joke. And I'm from fucking New York, so haha. It 1211 01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:58.600 was like, and I had to do the I had to do the Ghostbusters 1212 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:00.479 sort of legal, right, I had to do that. So now when 1213 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:02.680 I even first saw it, they quote me off. God, I'm like, 1214 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:06.600 oh wait, I think that's bus. They kind of playing off that 1215 01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:12.520 I have a little little paragraph of the book. Ron'm like, so this 1216 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:20.119 is how it's pronounced. Nice, it's anything else, any other links or 1217 01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:24.359 anything. The Rumble channel is, uh, you know, rumble dot com 1218 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:27.680 for it's last c Ford's Last Ball Dusters or you just click it, you 1219 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.680 know, and I'm on Twitter at all. Crap. It doesn't matter if 1220 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.560 you guys, If you find one thing and you find the description of any 1221 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:34.399 of my videos, it tells you, well, I'll have all your links, 1222 01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:36.199 and like, yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, but 1223 01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:41.520 I'll include all those. I'll include your Rumble, the the Twitter and whatever 1224 01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:43.720 else you want to send me. Some reason, I didn't get anything in 1225 01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:47.000 the private chat, so afterwards, just whatever where we're dming or wherever you 1226 01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:48.760 want to email it, however you want to get it to me, just 1227 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.920 send me whatever links you want me to use. And I got you all 1228 01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.319 right, And uh, Lisa, thank you very much for jumping on. 1229 01:23:56.520 --> 01:24:00.359 I appreciate it. Yes, yeah, meeting you always good to have me 1230 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.560 to you too, And I'm always looking for guests. So you guys, 1231 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:08.560 I don't know what you do, but if you just want to come on. 1232 01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:10.680 I mean, I you've had you on, Nick, you want to 1233 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:12.800 come on? Yeah, we can probably come on and cover a topic that 1234 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:18.359 we've actually covered. Fun Yeah, we save all our notes still to use, 1235 01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:21.479 and if you guys are the ones that are presenting the topic, it 1236 01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:25.239 gives me a chance to just kind of like ask the questions I have instead 1237 01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:28.720 of having to perfect It's it's different when three people are trying to contribute, 1238 01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.800 because it's like that anyways, you know, but it's it's better when you 1239 01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.079 can just be like, oh, that's awesome, but what about that? 1240 01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:39.640 You know, it's cool. It's a dare one. I'm still working my 1241 01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:41.960 way through. But that was really good. I was really enjoying that. 1242 01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:45.000 Yeah. Yeah, that went a lot better than I expected. And you 1243 01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:46.119 know, a lot of it was due to this, you know, stuff 1244 01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.880 that Lisa covered. I wasn't expecting any of that. I didn't even know 1245 01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:53.640 that about you know, Sid Barrett's father prior to like me even being just 1246 01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:56.279 in covering the topic. So I was like, oh, this makes it 1247 01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.399 even just more interesting now. So funny that he'd be like, you know, 1248 01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:06.279 into mycology or guy is a fun guess, right, isn't that weird 1249 01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:14.279 synchronous all off, and they left it all off as obituary, so that 1250 01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:18.159 is the weirdest part. It's like, yeah, no, the matrix is 1251 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:21.159 telling too much. We gotta gotta clip that part out, you know. 1252 01:25:21.239 --> 01:25:26.399 It's all right, Thank you, all right, yes, yes, so 1253 01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:30.319 uh yeah until uh yeah, thank you for coming on again, man again, 1254 01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:35.279 Beyond Beyond Babylon priest Craft. He's holding it up, ball busters check 1255 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:38.920 it out. The link for that will be in the bottom for sure. 1256 01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:42.920 And again, thank you will for coming on. And that's the end of 1257 01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:45.039 this one and until the next one, everybody be well later