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You're watching your worst friend brand new
faces. I'm your host, Matt and

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I'm joined today by my friend and
co host Shane. What's up today we

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have a very special guest with us, young lady in Spoiled Ivory. You

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can find Spoiled Ivory on Twitter at
Spoiled Ivory, Instagram, I am Spoiled

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Ivory, loyal fans Spoiled Ivory,
and on my free cams. Spoiled Ivory

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Underscore links to everything is going to
be in the episode description. So if

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you didn't understand that, or if
you're not a good speller, I get

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it. You're one of our audience. Uh not a great speller, go

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into the episode description. Figure it
out, Ivory. Thank you very much

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for coming on with us today.
Oh thanks for having me so right off

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the bat, let's figure it out. Your however many years old and it

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clicks in your head and you go, I really want to get into adult

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films. I want to start doing
something in the world. When is that

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and what is the first thought that
goes through your head? Okay, So

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I actually have a background in search
engine optimization. I come from like the

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marketing world, or I did for
a year before it burnt me out,

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and I said the ROI. I
did the research on the ROI of this

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and was like why not, like
you know, like comfortable and like,

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don't get me wrong, I have
been you know, I've done things that

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have I would have gone back and
not done over ten years. But it

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helped me find my niche like my
category. Okay, Now, I mean

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where you doing marketing for? I
mean you don't have to say names obviously,

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but was it like a major corporation? Was it like a marketing firm?

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Was? Yeah, it was kind
of like venture capitalists. Okay,

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start out well, so and I'm
going somewhere with this. What was your

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gig there? Like did you have
like were you I don't even know what

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marketing I started out. I started
out as a freelance writer, Like I

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literally wrote those like shitty like paragraphs
of nonsense on the Internet you look through

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and you're really looking for like information, and they're cluttered with links ads.

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If you try and look at them
on mobile, your ship just kind of

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crashes. So you mean like those
articles where it's like okay, okay,

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That's where I started and eventually I
ended up. I think my official title

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was press coordinator, an outreach specialist, so I was like the head of

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a department. So where I'm going
with that is there of all the girls

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we've interviewed, we've read a lot
of them at this point, major names,

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new place, just breaking in everything. I know, it's really shocking

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we've gotten here. Like, I
mean, one minute, you're just fucking

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watching yourself get three downloads and then
yeah, two hundred and seventy episodes later.

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Yeah. Yeah. But all the
girls we've talked to, they all

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tend to have a common trend.
So it's either a psychology background or marketing

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or advertising background is what I've picked
up on. And I'm just I'm wondering

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if there's when you're working in marketing, if you think to yourself, like

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if the click, like I said
before, is like, why the fuck

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am I marketing this company over here
when all these other people are cleaning up?

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I know I'm good at marketing,
Why don't I just market myself?

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Yes, that's kind of what happened
at a certain point. You know,

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I was being overwork and underpaid,
so I was like really doing what three

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people should have been doing, you
know, within one week, and honestly,

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like I One of the steps along
the way to press coordinator was I

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was a research a research specialist.
Okay, Oh, I would just go

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in and research facts on all sorts
of different stuff, so like you could

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find something relevant to link the bullshit
you don't want to click onto. Okay,

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okay, so right, that makes
sense. So wow, that sounds

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like a really stupid job. It
really was. Was that just like soul

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crushing? Yes, the amount of
the amount of information I have on cosmetic

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dentistry, we'll never read my brain. And that alone that into a career.

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Moved to Saudi Arabian do teeth.
Yeah, like, yeah, not

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for me. Let me, let
me ask because that's actually an interesting question

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about that. So are you gathering
random facts like you're writing an article or

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whatever about Taylor Swift and you really
need to push somebody to a travelocity or

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fucking Expedia link or something like that, So you'd be like Taylor, who's

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gonna be uh, who's seen vacationing
with a boyfriend and Travis Kelcey in you

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know, Spain, blah blah blah
blah blahhh, and then in Spain you

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put that link right or somewhere near
Okay, it's all about relevancy, and

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at that time, like we were
attempting to use small businesses and the articles

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on their website to gain traffic by
like linking legitimate news, so it was

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kind of a reverse okay, okay, So we were kind of like,

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if I link like NBC in the
same article that I've got like this cosmetic

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dentistry, like the algorithm would move
a higher order the relevancy of the sources.

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So I don't hate you as much
as I hate the YouTube people who

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put up like this person's performance from
the Grammys last night, and I go,

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all right, let me click and
watch this, let me see this

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performance, and it's just somebody with
still shots going uh Taylor Swift performed last

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night at the Grammys, and he's
like, hey, man, if you

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could fucking die, I would like, yeah, not either. I just

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want to watch the performance. I
don't want to see still shots of these

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fucking people anyway, It'll see Taylor
Swift Grammy's performance in parentheses, Yeah,

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all caps. One of my favorites
is like, I'm gonna let you finish.

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But the best video. Oh yeah. We were just doing a we

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were recording our comedy show before this, and we referenced the jay Z did

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the same thing last night in a
sense kind of. He was up there

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going he was accepting another award,
and he was saying, look, I

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don't know how someone could have more
nominations than anyone or more wins than anyone

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in the history of the Grammys,
which is Beyonce and not win Album of

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the Year. Right. Uh.
Anyway, we gotta get back to you

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about you, not this random shit. This is not the A D D

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Hour with Shane and I both have
I mean for that too. To be

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honest, A lot of my job
is like, is very much this okay,

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So tell me talking to losers on
the internet that fucking wins, you

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know, I mean, like really, what I do I consider to be

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like the the oldest and most like
honest transaction of all time. Sure,

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it's very like nobody has a misunderstanding
about what they want and nobody, you

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know, nobody has to give something
that I don't want to give in a

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perfect world. Yes, yeah,
this is where we're operating. Yes,

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yes, in my on my level
your word choice, I have made it.

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I have achieved that. When I
was twenty and I started doing this,

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I was doing shit I absolutely would
not do now and go ahead,

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wow, like not just cam why
it's just custom video wise kind of?

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It didn't put my brand. I
didn't know what my brand was yet,

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okay, and I want to dive
into that because you have an interesting brand.

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If you I have no problem with
you fighting with that. But you're

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more than welcome to just pop that
off if you don't want bothering. It's

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totally up to you. I was
listen, I was planning on it at

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some point fair enough where HP my
mouth shut. Yeah, well we'll let

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her get to it in moments,
right. But what you were saying there

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was something heard her is talking to
losers like us, something saying losers were

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not losers were avin Award nominees.
Let me ask you this, What was

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the stuff you did early on that
you were against and then I want to

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start talking about your brand. I
don't even want to say against. Okay,

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it just was it. It didn't
feel you know, when something hits

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in your gut professionally that like I
have the drive and inspiration to do this.

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Sure, so for me, the
very basic like cam girl foundation of

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like you know, solo masturbation girlfriend
experience where it's like very like just a

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virtual escort sure, which I mean, trust me. Sometimes it's frustrating because

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there could be a much larger bag
waiting for me at the end of that

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train, but it doesn't longevity wise, keep me focused and yeah, well

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the early customs are a good way
to just kind of like get your handle

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on a camera and get your face
literally posing in front of the camera and

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all that. So it's like what
I want to on the culture itself,

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right, Yeah, it is like
something you have to adapt to. It's

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like I feel like probably after a
while you get to a point where it's

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like maybe you realize like it's the
first time you're like, you know,

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I don't want to do this request, you know, like yeah, it's

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not something on your at at flat
out no list, but you know what

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I don't feel like saying. And
there are guys anymore, there are you

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know, there are still certain things
that fall into the gray area of where

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I'm at and what the offer is
and like you know, every you know,

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everything has a price up to my
hardline, you know, like my

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herd line is not my soft line. Let me answer, Okay, that

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is a question. We get into
and then I want to get into your

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niche because in how old am I
twenty five years of hugging my dick,

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I've never heard of your niche before. So we got we got to dive

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into that. But what are your
hard lines? Where would you say your

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hard line? You know, where's
the gray area start? And then where's

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the go right? You know,
I'll give you a hard lines are like

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obviously some very basic things like race
play, no age, well, h

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play. I will say this,
there are people that do it for me.

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It's a non starter. Okay,
Okay, you don't necessarily cast Judd

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no I, No, I do. I judge the shit out of those

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I have a very I don't think
it helps make what the reality of that

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is outside of the adult world not
more rampant. Oh you mean like seventy

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year old dentists Mary and twenty year
old Asian broads. Well o, No,

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I mean down to like the sea, like the baby fetish. Okay,

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that's to see, That's what I
was going to ask. I was

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fires up, like that's a hard
ack line for me. Like, no,

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I was going to say, as
I get older, I'm thirty six,

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Now I could see myself, Like
I'd like to hear a girl tell

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me she's eighteen blah blah blah blah
blah. But we've heard requests where it's

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like, tell me you're thirteen.
It's like, hey, how about I

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tell the FBI you said that?
Like are you talking about is that what

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you're talking about in race? Or
I'm not talking about young college girl in

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a plaid skirt. Sure you're talking
about young girl scout in a plaid script.

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Yeah, or like the guy wants
to be a baby and like,

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okay, that's just see that one
that's less predatory and more no, but

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it can always flip. You never
know what's going on. Yeah, I

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got attacked by a baby one time, so that's fair. I agree.

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What about what about like, well, my kind of age play is like

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you would have to pretend to be
much much older. That's that's fine with

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me, That's okay, Like it's
all about it's all about like your mental

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ability to consent or the fantasy thereof
Oh well see you might have a little

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dementia. Well okay, we're going
into like relative care. Yeah then I

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think I mean I can work with
you, but like I'm going to need

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you to stay on camera that this
was consensual first, okay, okay,

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okay, Ivory, I sent you
the money through Venmo now here. I

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need you to go out and get
a walker. Okay, Like stranger things

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have been request What is the strangest
request I've ever gotten? Oh gosh,

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the strangest request if you don't think
of a scenario, so I will.

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I will say this. There is
somebody on my free camps that always comes

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into my room and wants me to
smoke a cigarette and use a hair dryer

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at the same time, which sounds
like a disaster to me. Sounds like

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his mother was doing that in the
sixties. Yeah, yeah, I know

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a lot of it. I always
I'm like, well, who hurts you?

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Sure? Yeah? Who blamed you
with a hair dryer and cigarette?

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You know? Not to get graphic, but there was a guy that really

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enjoyed me watching him do a certain
substances. Not to get graphic, what

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is what are the substances? Was
he railing lines of ship like what is?

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What is? No? I mean
actual drug or what I could allegedly

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what looks like drugs? Who is? And then he he wanted to shove

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hot cheetos up his urethra whoa crushed
them with a boot? Oh my god,

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I just need the audience to know. I held back because we try

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and not bring up politics on here, but I was going to ask you

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how Hunter Biden doing what you said? He wants to watch you rail line

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or watch them rail lines. Again, not political, just just just topical.

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So you actually did this. You
crushed this guy's cheet o'cock. So

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it went from me watching him do
it on the internet. You're doing like

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a real time session, Like,
what's what's a real in person? Yeah?

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In person? Okay, So like, and I'm very selective about how

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I do that. There's a lot
of safety precautions involved in like anything surrounding.

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It's going to meet somebody in person, and it's typically I typically have

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a long standing online relationship with them. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen them

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face to face. I'm like,
I can kind of gauge whether you're a

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complete psychopath or not. And even
if they are, like secretly and you

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you're not wise enough to pick up
there's so much evidence that even if they

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get you, he's caught, you
know, because of all the communications and

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everything else, and will be avenged. Yeah, I've got backups after backups

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on like you know you're not getting
away with it. But yeah, that's

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one of the weirder ones. I
would say another like that that's just popped

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into my head. I did a
video of like Penteclastal like snake dancing Christianity

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like speaking in tongue. Oh I
love that. See that's cool. I

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like I like it because I'm very
sacrilegious, like religious rama on ten still

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like yeah, I was like ging
into that one. I'm I'm feeling you

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on that. But it's just I
I agree, like the anti religious stuff

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is cool. But do you do
you have like a thing where it's like

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when you hear like some crazy requests
where it's like, holy shit, I

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would have never thought of that.
I'll give you an example where my wife

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got one where it's a she had
to suck God's dick. So she's in

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a nun's outfit and she it's like
a POV blowjob where she blows God as

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a nut. Yeah wow, Yeah, creative minds. And I remember thinking

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like that's awesome. You know that. I mean honestly though, the idea

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of that bait like that would sell. Yeah, as a general clip sure

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would sell. What's your favorite idea
someone's given you? Like you're like your

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favorite like, oh wow, I
never thought of that, hypnoes. It's

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honestly, like, nobody's ever given
me an idea better than my own.

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All right, let's talk about it. Then, let's jump into it.

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Your niche, your little piece of
the internet you carved out for yourself,

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is what is there rad a hypnosis? Okay? And what the hell does

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that mean? A rock band?
So it's a very niche topic and it's

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also very difficult to work your way
around some of the legalities of it,

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Like you have to in certainly because
state by state it's like you have to

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be licensed. So I have to
start by asking, like, do you

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you understand this is all for entertainment? I have no like I have no

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actual training in like therapeut dignosis to
throw the waiver lines up, Yeah,

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like I do, and like I'll
be I'll tell you there are there are

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situations where I'm if I didn't,
I would be wondering about what would happen.

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So are you like a lawyer commercial
where they're like, You're like,

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I'm only licensed in Kentucky, Pennsylvania
and Virginia. Ye, that was like

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you know when I when my website's
finally back up and run and get like

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that's the fine rent. Yeah,
okay, all right, fair enough those

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states just in case, like,
there's never a situation where you shouldn't think

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about worst case scenario content. Well
that's how could this so how could it

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go wrong? I'm guessing I'm guessing
it's a consent issue, right, is

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the concern? Yes, it's a
consent issue. So it's more about like

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you know, if you want to
parallel it to giving somebody, somebody something

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in their drink that makes them less
able to access their inhibitions. Okay,

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So it's about taking somebody's like free
will away. Oh okay, Okay,

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that makes it a leal problem.
Now, so what if what if?

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Okay, so what if we you're
just filming content like and it's and it's

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consenting adults? Is it? Is
it a legal problem for people to portray

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a scene of somebody losing their No, no, no, no no.

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But what happens is a lot of
the clip sites these days, a lot

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of like campsites, like you can't
hashtag hypnosis, you can't hashtag it like

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they've just blacked that, you know, it's blacked out, and or they'll

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remove it for their own to save
their own asses for sure. Yeah,

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they're covering themselves. So we're seamless
as child porn, right, So like,

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yeah, it's just crazy that's in
the same group. I mean,

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but I get the reasoning because,
like, as somebody who is coming up

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into owning a what like I bought
a website recently that I plan to make

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like very thinndum oriented and not just
like that saying that. So so in

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the hypnosis play though, is it
always okay? So it's it's dynamic,

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so I can attach it to any
fetish you have. Okay, So say

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you have a foot fetish, I
can use that and come up with a

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dialogue or like a way to like, you know, kind of play the

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role and integrate your fetish into it. So I like girls who speak Chinese.

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Listen, Hey, Chinese girls can
also be hypnotized. So I guess

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she could hypnotize me into thinking that
her English was perfect Mandarin. Okay,

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that's but like that, I'd like
it's working. I can't understand you at

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all, honestly, that that hits
so close to home in terms of like

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how out there, like really well
are in terms of what they want?

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Which you know, I'm not here
to king shame. No, no,

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but I'm pretty good with letting just
words flow. I don't really need a

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script at this point. Sure,
I've kind of done it so many times

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where I have like a it's almost
like a mad lips that doesn't filled out.

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I get it. We have outlines
on how we do interviews, and

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then I add my own being asked
to that was asked for. Okay,

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all right, so okay, are
you all right? Are you hypnotizing them

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every time? That is the It's
not the other way around. You wouldn't

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have it that way. So are
you? Is this all right? Again?

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Within the realm of weird? Uh? Not weird of me not understanding

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is what I should have said.
No, but I get it. You're

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a domb. You're a domb every
time. Yes, I am a dom.

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You are just a dumb yeah,
yes, okay, you don't switch

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at all. There's no submissiveness in
you. What if the dude look like

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broads? I will say this,
Okay, I do girl girl situations.

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We're all do the full on nude
because I mean, it's enjoyable to me.

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Oh so you don't need to get
full on nude with the guy situations.

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No, do you get nude at
all? Oh well, I'm gonna

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say this, Okay, I there
is a tier of clientele that could access

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that. Okay, it's not it's
not anybody walking into my my free camps

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room without you know, with tokens. Sure, it's it's the guy with

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a beamer, I understand, the
Mercedes multiple Okay, it's usually like,

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honestly, my my target demo is
usually like just retired. Okay. Oh

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yeah, see that's who I age
play as. Yeah, just so who

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how do you advertise this if all
the things are like cutting you off at

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every turn, I'll tell you what. They would not let us post or

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videos on X videos at all whatsoever, even though we had some of the

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biggest name porn stars in the world, because they said, oh, well,

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you don't have any nudity. This
is a porn site. So we're

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like, hey, well, what
if we can find some form of nudity

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on some of them? Because like
I'll be honest with you, me and

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Shane, I'm not going to ask
somebody like goth Charlotte, like, oh,

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you got to take your top off. That I mean, I'm not

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doing no, no, but I
get it. Like this was kind of

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like, I'll be very real.
This was kind of my compromise between like

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to hold my dominance totally understand,
totally, we appreciate. I know you

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want to see it. I'm fine. Like for the exposure, I'm fine.

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Like the value is it could possibly
be equitable enough, So like there

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are shots where I will you know, I do do topless things, okay,

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topless only boom down. Yeah,
yeah, it would be a tragedy

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if you didn't. If I'm being
honest with you. Yeah, I mean

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like I've just been too blessed and
not sure. That would be like if

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I had a twelve inch stick and
it was thick and I was like,

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I don't know, man, I
really just think you're going to die wondering.

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Yeah, that's a fair point.
Let me just plug in one more

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time on Twitter at Spoiled Ivory,
Instagram, I am the Letters, I

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am Spoiled Ivory. Loyal fans Spoiled
Ivory and check her out on my free

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cams. Show up with a lot
of tokens and lie about what kind of

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car you drive. You find her
at Spoiled Ivory Underscore on my hit Me

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with the Luxuries. So how far
are we taking this? Is this your

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career or are you going to build
it independently? And it's my career.

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I have not worked a single other
job in ten years, Okay, makes

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sense. Are you looking to expand
anywhere else, like shoot for any major

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site or okay? Yes, So
I finally feel now that like I have

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like a firm grasp on like you
know, there's a line between my personal

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persona and who I show up on
CAMAS and I finally feel very comfortable with

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kind of the intermashing of the two. Yeah, Like I feel very based

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in what I know are my hardlines, my soft lines, what I'd prefer

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to do like creatively on my own, what my ideas are, and that

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you know doesn't come without I would
say, at least five years like on

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and I'm I'm speaking like on and
off in terms of like I could have

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been gunning at forty hours a week
the whole time, and sure been in

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a different place noway, but you
were doing comquires some downtime. It requires

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a break every once in a while, sure, like constantly, you know,

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flooded by messages on the internet from
strangers. Does like takes a toll.

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Huh, It's a toll even if
you don't respond. It's just the

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natural like response to having to acknowledge
it. Sure, right now, I

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get that, Like I ignore every
text my mom or dad sends me.

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But when I see them piling up
in my inbox, I'm just that's when

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you know you need to like,
yeah, hasn't died yet, you know,

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right, like who died? If
you call me? Because you know,

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like I'm not picking up. So
so we talked on Twitter when we

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were putting this together, and you
generally not that you don't love them.

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You prefer more of the independent artists
and creators and performers and stuff like that.

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It seems like right a wrong,
Yeah, no, you're not wrong.

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No, Like I respect and honor
women that have like inspired me to

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be my own boss. Okay,
because there are a lot of companies out

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there that are taking, you know, fifty five percent of the cut on

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a cam site of what you make, and to me, that is just

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ridiculous. Yeah, no, I
would agree. They like they built the

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infrastruction all the content, you know, Yeah, you know, they're not.

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They don't have a studio shooting my
free cams studio porn. I mean,

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my freakams has been great. Sure, I'm gonna be honest. I've

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been to ABN I worked for I
Want Clips at the Booth in twenty eighteen,

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and I also have been to the
Exotica with my free cams. Okay,

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the way that they treat their mind, like just from my personal experience

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as Ben Stellar, Okay, awesome, awesome, can I can I ask

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it? And not to spite the
thing you just praised so deeply, But

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I've been trolling the cam sites obviously
looking for new people to be able to

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interview and talk to. That's the
experience I gave my wife. That's how

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you found me did online. But
it's why I sit there. Sure,

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let me ask why does it seem
like chatter Bait has so many more people

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in their rooms than my cams?
Okay, so my I think there are

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a lot of different factors going on
here. So like they have reached oh

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megal status stupid exposure on the internet. Okay, So like when you type

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in poor and chatterbaits first page,
you know, so like they're you know,

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they have the highest amount of viewers, and then like women, you

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would think like A to B means
I'm going to get more money if there

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are more viewers. The quality of
the viewers, gotcha? Not the same?

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Gotcha? Got how invested that the
viewer isn't like actually getting to know

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you and forming like because there is
like a bond like even with like people

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that are in my room every day
to like you know, it's like any

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customer relationship. Sure, the customer, they come in and you go.

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But professionalism of just like them showing
up and always like a regular at the

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ship club generation. Sure, oh
look, Jim's here again. He likes

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when I hypnotize him and puts my
feet in his mouth. Yeah, and

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that's like, you know, when
you're ready to fucking just like tap out

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because it's so dead or like you
know, like that, those are the

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people that show up and keep you
going. Sure have you ever received anything

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in any inbox ever that has actually
turned you on? Oh? For sure?

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Really? Now, what is it
a chick? Is it a giant

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dick? Is it a dick in
a cage or something like? What turns

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you on? I mean I really
consider myself to be very sapio sexual.

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I don't know what that means.
Is that I think that's like I'm attracted

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to intellect. Oh, isn't that
pan sexual? No, that just means

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like across the board jumper walk doesn't
really matter, okay, safety sexual.

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Where my like where I get turned
on is when somebody can challenge me with

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their own intelligence. At you sound
like a tough woman, I am.

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Yeah, that's how you dumb from
the possession, Like I don't s for

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fools. Really well, I'm the
Internet, like I do it every day

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anyway. Like if I said,
like, this is the price for this

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on my tip menu, and you're
like, what does the cost when I

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have it sitting right there? Wait? Are you telling me you don't want

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to haggle over your pornography content like
it's a Bangladeshi market somewhere. Yes,

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wow, that's new. Actually most
we want to enjoy that. Yeah,

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you don't want to treat the content
you work. It's super hard for like

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a Marvel ride, Yeah, like
this a little stale. A lot of

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my work is live like sessions,
like private sessions or custom videos. Okay,

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so I have you know, like
my typical like stick on my free

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cams is not. I think it's
the twenty to the eighty percent in terms

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of like people are there to see
me and like get in touch with me

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about content. Okay, they enjoyed
the thrill of seeing me, you know,

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online because they've done private sessions with
me. Sure, okay, so

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I get a lot of that.
And you know, I've also met people

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that have been like, at certain
times a large percent of my income,

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especially starting early. Sure, what
is uh, what is a fetish you

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have not yet been able to tackle
on film or in person or whatever,

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something where you're like really sliding out
of your seat to try and get this

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done, but it just hasn't come
to fruition yet. I'll say, like

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the one that I've been asked about
a lot, which I like, in

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my head I know would make money, sure, but like bad for the

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brand. It's like also over a
year, the like I get hypnotized,

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Okay, see see I see the
I don't know, maybe that dynamic.

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I see the appeal in that more
than the other one. I don't like

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the idea of like being hypnotized and
then someone tickles me or something or I'm

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not as I understand right, Sure, Sure, Sure, I think I

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came into the adult industry under femdom
okay, So like really a lot of

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femdom women would not even show up
wearing this, like the topless thing would

407
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:27.680
have been a no go, so
good okay, So I didn't even realize

408
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.559
that. So that's how little I
know about fem doom in particular, because

409
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:37.480
right I'm into church chicks who are
like I like, like a chick who

410
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.200
can be dominant and badass or whatever. But I always liked the idea of

411
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:46.720
like a switching roles type of thing. Like we we interviewed Suki Sin recently,

412
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:54.599
who I think of as like a
chef's kiss on that one. Yeah,

413
00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.279
I know, but she's she's beautiful. Yeah. I find that she

414
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:06.279
has that balance where it's like,
you know, she's she's dominant in the

415
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:15.720
sense that she's she she's like forth
right, and she's able to communificate very

416
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.240
clearly, like what she wants and
what she desires and and all that stuff,

417
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.839
but at the same time she can
take thirteen inches life. That kind

418
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:31.119
of like where like career wise,
I will say, like I've opened myself

419
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:37.599
up to the idea of more things
as I am a more established brand Okay,

420
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.880
so like when I feel like things
aren't going to take away from like

421
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:49.400
my like an initial ten year bill
presence on the internet. Sure, well,

422
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.960
all right, so let's let's give
you a mulligan. Though. Let's

423
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.119
say you're going to shoot a scene
and in this world there's going to be

424
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.440
no one turned off by it.
What is right? What is that scene

425
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.960
you want to do? Because it
doesn't sound like you would want to be

426
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.480
the hypnotized person in that. You
know it doesn't, but at the same

427
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.280
time, it's like always the one
thing that you think is going to give

428
00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.840
you an dick that like I like
personally turned me on, like you know,

429
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:17.639
like you never know. Okay,
I really like hot women. I'm

430
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:23.679
big on hot women, and I
would like to like do group like they

431
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:30.000
have like what they call like posing
hypnosis. So you go in and you

432
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.519
like have somebody freeze and pose them. I'm able to leave that stance or

433
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.480
you can re jib I actually just
did a clip I will be releaseding sooning

434
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:46.920
like this where you pose them and
then you know it's it's intended to look

435
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.960
like you're taking advantage of them.
Okay, see this this, but but

436
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.440
you're not actually you know you're not
actually taking advantage, but I thought it

437
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.480
was like you're fucking a mannequin.
But I mean, honestly, in my

438
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.199
brain, that's what it feels like, Like that's the IMF this is.

439
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.559
I just explained this to my wife
the other day, because she helps me

440
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.679
produce this show. But she great
in bed, but she is a prude

441
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.920
when it comes to watching and talking
about this stuff. Explain to her free

442
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.360
use the other day, which like
the use, I think my new favorite

443
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.440
fetish. It's cool. Yeah,
okay, so explain that to me.

444
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.519
Okay, ready, I just want
to get you were you were standing up

445
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.719
typing on that computer, right,
You're just type in blah blah blah,

446
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.280
and you have like a skirt on
or something, and then somebody, not

447
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:42.559
me, uh not. In my
fantasy, somebody would come up and just

448
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.320
kind of slide it in you and
give you some pomps. Go ahead,

449
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.800
go ahead, I'm into that.
Okay, here's the thing. You don't

450
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.320
break your concentration. You're still got
to get I gotta get these emails,

451
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.960
and these numbers aren't going to crunch
themselves. One of my favorites is like

452
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.199
a girl playing Nintendo Switch that's a
free ye. And it's like it's like

453
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.719
she's not phased. Mm hm nope. Yeah, it's like she there's no

454
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.159
phase. She's still playing freaking Mario. She might not even know she's getting

455
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.440
fucked right, Yeah, Like it's
like you're not even there. I think

456
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:21.639
it's it's it's its own brand of
ignore ignore fetish okay, ignore fetish type

457
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.320
thing. Yeah, Like I think
it's like the dismissal of you even like

458
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.719
I don't care if you have a
fourteen inch dick. I'm still fucking Like

459
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.920
that's a good word, dismissal.
But you know what's great on the other

460
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.400
side of it too, for the
mail in that case, it's almost like

461
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.280
there's no judgment. I don't know. Maybe I'm going off my own history

462
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:43.159
here, but I'm like, there
isn't There isn't though, Like it's like,

463
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:47.320
if you like to be honest with
you with my personal like relationships c

464
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.840
NC love it, Like, if
I'm comfortable enough with you to where like

465
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:57.599
we've developed a dynamic, I will
be submissive in my personal life. Okay.

466
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.760
See that's what I was going to
ask you if that was just your

467
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.280
on screen definite concrete personality or if
in your regularly life to switch on switch

468
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.679
off. It's hard because it's so
genuine to me on both sides, Like,

469
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.920
and to be honest with you,
I'm mostly I'm ninety percent of the

470
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.440
time I'm dating women. So you
know it that brings in something different to

471
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.519
the scenario as well, makes sense? Yeah, sure makes sense. So

472
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.960
I'm considered usually a top I'm not. I'm typically the one opening doors and

473
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:37.159
like chivalry is not dead, like
just see and my image doesn't give that

474
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.159
from the jump. So it's kind
of like a shock for a lot of

475
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.440
people. Yeah, I'm very I'm
I'm the opposite. I'm very fluid,

476
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:51.199
Like I let Jen pay for everything, right, and then she can open

477
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.159
all the doors for me, and
like it's nice, it's great. It's

478
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.559
a princess life. I love equality. It's good. I am a little

479
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.400
princess. So let's let's do some
of the let's do some of the basic

480
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.360
questions that the porn guys are interested
in here because I find this stuff very

481
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.400
fascinating. But also there's people who
are just kind of like into the hypno

482
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.519
thing. I'm just sure, I
just don't understand that the hypno thing is

483
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:22.000
really just mine, like erotic mind
play based off their own fetish sure,

484
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.320
oh it makes total sense to me. Yeah, it's like for me,

485
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.440
fendom bindom, Like there are very
few people get off of just sending you

486
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.320
money for no reason. Yeah,
it's like the humiliation, it's the degradation,

487
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:42.440
it's you know, whatever it is
that they're into, attacking a cheeto

488
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.920
in it. Yes, I mean, you know, rainbow of colors in

489
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.159
terms of variety to choose from,
but it's what it's dynamic, which also

490
00:38:52.239 --> 00:39:00.440
makes it I'm able to sustain a
new fresh take on it. Gotcha,

491
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:05.679
gotcha, it doesn't get stale.
Okay, all right, So the basic

492
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:10.360
porn questions, Uh, how what's
the most amount of people you've ever been

493
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:19.800
with at once? Four? Okay? The genders or is everybody fluid?

494
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.320
Uh? There was a mail involved, one mail, three chicks? What

495
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.440
do you do win the fucking lottery
that day? How that works out?

496
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.760
Honestly looking back? Must have Okay, all right, fair, well,

497
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.960
I don't know. It depends on
what they did to it. They crushed

498
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.079
ches. I was fucking six hours. I don't know, man, No,

499
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:42.039
listen, when there's that much going
on, like I'm sorry, but

500
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.159
you can only extend yourself so much. I see, I would are you

501
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.039
talking about hammer you because I would
assume No, I'm just assuming the whole

502
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.440
party of the unit. Like it's
very over stimulating to have that many to

503
00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:02.639
break off. Yeah, and if
you get out of your zone then it

504
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.880
gets weird. You have to like
stay very engaged. I get it.

505
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.480
Just a time limit on that and
take some molly keeping like really though,

506
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.679
like you know, if you need
to, you know, use vitamins too.

507
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:24.119
There's drink drink orange juice. Yeah, yea. How about uh anal

508
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.360
into it? Not into it?
Never gonna be into it, possibly could

509
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.119
be into it. I would be
shocked if I ever did any anal content

510
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.400
to uh what about okay, all
right, just keep this between us.

511
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.800
What about like personal life stuff you
into that? There? No, okay,

512
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:46.199
so it's just not I mean also
drink like women are not super keen

513
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:52.320
on wanting anal like, that's not
something that you got to remember. We've

514
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.199
talked to girls who uh women women
that like women, women that are premiery.

515
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.719
Yeah, you gotta talk to James. You should. You would like

516
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:08.760
my wife, I think I'm sure
she's pretty shell yeah, she deals with

517
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:14.119
this shit. Yeah, you's a
nice thing. She is definitely eighty twenty

518
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.159
women. I just was I was
twenty, got in there, yeah,

519
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.679
oh yeah, you were close enough
on that borderline. You were in that

520
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.400
gray area of like is that a
lesbian? Yeah, yeah, transition,

521
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.280
yeah, something you know, caught
and stuck yeah yeah, high pitch by

522
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.360
small dick. Yeah that guy yet
could be a chick. I don't know.

523
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.119
You know, it's weird because my
wife is into like like dudes who

524
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:42.119
look like Tyresee you know, remember
from Too Fast, Too Furious. But

525
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.360
she told me she's like, you
know, if I was single again,

526
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.519
I would probably just date women.
And I was like asking about her type,

527
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:54.039
and I was shocked because her type
is like of woman is like U

528
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.480
is basically a dude. It's basically
like a skinny like the stem like the

529
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:10.840
stud study is that study she fucking
loves Kailani. Yes, that's giving yes,

530
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.840
okay, yeah, and it's like
I can't give stem or I can

531
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.960
give complete like pin up feminine,
Okay, I would never ever want to

532
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:29.480
look more masculine, like like I
may give up energy where I'm wearing like

533
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:34.719
a well cut blazer with nothing under
it, you know, like there's lines,

534
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.760
it's a it's a finesse. You're
not a pants suit girl, generally

535
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.719
not generally. No, okay,
fair enough? Uh, Shane, would

536
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.239
you like to ask your question that
you always Yeah, we should start taking

537
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.960
bets on it. By the way. Uh my answer is she's gonna say

538
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.280
no, I'm going to say it
depends on the situation. Fair enough.

539
00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:05.159
Okay, do you like piss well, am I pissing on or so?

540
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.960
It depends on the situation, doesn't
it. Yeah, we're gonna start keeping

541
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.039
count one for Shane. Well,
I'm Milania, you do for sure any

542
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.800
day? Oh? Nice? All
right? Cool? Yeah, I prefer

543
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.960
to be Milani. Yet I actually
find that when I'm having to Milani as

544
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.639
someone when I have to make the
pee tape and I have to perform,

545
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.000
I get stage. Yeah, I
really can't pee in front of the people,

546
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.079
but I do expect people to pee
in front of and on me.

547
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.559
Yeah. No, Like, there's
definitely something out there on the internet from

548
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:46.639
ten years ago of me doing a
PC for sure, if you can find

549
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.079
it, you found you found the
Easter Egg, because I can't even find

550
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.199
it. Okay, fair enough,
we'll find it. Yeah, but uh

551
00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:02.800
yeah, as far as wet work
goes, like what am I Am I

552
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.599
losing here? He's like, is
it wet work? Is it water works?

553
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.599
Because wet work I thought was murder
Well I think there was. Okay,

554
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.320
I think I'm connecting to horrible bosses
if you yeah, yeah, yeah,

555
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.559
I have or like they go in
and and he's just there to like

556
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.519
literally piss on them. Yeah,
he was like, this is not what

557
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.440
I thought wet working about. That's
probably sticking in my brain. I seen

558
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.599
it. I will urinate on you
for a certain amount of money. Yet

559
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.920
there you go. Hell yeah.
Uh. Now to wrap this up,

560
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.199
tell us what is the website idea? I mean, you don't have to

561
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:45.719
give out any specific details, but
do you have a plan that is gonna

562
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.679
be something so unique or so special
or so well designed that it's gonna draw

563
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.800
people in? And then how do
you plan on advertising it? So really,

564
00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:00.360
I mean my advertisement system at first
is going to be integrating people that

565
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:06.280
I know and have known in the
business for multiple years that I want to

566
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:13.039
be cornerstone faces to draw. Okay, So then I want to bring those

567
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.559
people in and say like, hey, what like you know, I know

568
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.840
what my desire, like desires for
what I would want on a website are,

569
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.960
I want to gather a dynamic group
of those people and get a very

570
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:37.320
you know, get a very succinct, fluid, social and transactional gotcha have

571
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.800
you are these people that work within
your realm? Where are you going to

572
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.159
have to like train them? Okay, so the people that I initially would

573
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.880
involve have been doing this like a
long time, Like I mentioned Violet Doll,

574
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.199
Like Violet Doll went from like very
much being in a niche to like

575
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.760
now being able to, like what
I see from my end her being able

576
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.239
to do creative Okay, okay,
like yeah, play like things that like

577
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.480
she genuinely enjoys. Makes sense?
Yeah, yeah, and that would be

578
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:15.000
my goal. I'm gonna give you
a little advice that you didn't ask for

579
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.920
and don't need, but we've spoken
to enough people. You really have to

580
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.159
make sure when you're making content on
paper you have the exact right mindset and

581
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:29.400
what I think too, Like this
is working. Let's keep pumping this out,

582
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.039
Let's keep this brain going blah blah. But same thing as marketing.

583
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.440
You will hit a point possibly where
you go, fuck, this is boring.

584
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.559
This is yeah, yeah, I
mean I've hit that point in hypnosis,

585
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.960
like there's a specific crowd that is
very much just in it. Mm

586
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.679
hmm for the literal like mind control, Like they don't want you to be

587
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:59.079
like ten nine eight seven six,
you know, like follow us, like

588
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:04.039
they're into the very are you basic? Like not interesting for me anymore?

589
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.280
Even at that point, I could
do that with standing on my head.

590
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.760
By the way I was gonna if
I was funnier, if she had gone

591
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.480
down the one, I would have
smashed my head on my keyboard here and

592
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:19.639
really fucking let her know hereditary she
means business. I get that, but

593
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.199
it makes subtle sense. What I
was what I was going to say is

594
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:27.840
never limit yourself or limit your content
just because you know it sells. I

595
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.280
will say, Now that's exactly where
I am. And it's like I'm like

596
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:37.840
feeling different about how dynamic I can
make it and how much you know,

597
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:44.440
how far I can push the line, sure and retain my what I feel

598
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:51.320
it's like my professional acumen, level
of comfort. Sure now that you know

599
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.239
that changes over time, It really
does. So, Like they're like,

600
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.800
would you have caught me in twenty
twenty with my top off on a podcast,

601
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:07.559
maybe not especially note got to start
what I But I'm also good at

602
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:14.360
because I have the marketing background.
I see when something looks like something I

603
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:20.519
would want to watch fair enough,
uh not listen to the video on this

604
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.519
one is going to be excellent.
The audio on our side is going to

605
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:29.800
be real. Yeah, yea,
my audio bad. No, you're no

606
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.920
one's audio is bad. I was
commenting on our quality of conversation that Shane,

607
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.880
And yeah, yeah, but you
know what, I think we know

608
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.440
our audience at this point to our
audience from what I've seen in a lot

609
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.280
of the porn stuff, the interviews
we do and all that is like I'm

610
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.920
kind of getting the taste of it, Shane, of like the SIMP army

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coming out. Yeah, they like
the guy. They they seem like guys

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who really like the stars. They
come and listen to hear what the stars

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got to say. Yeah, but
but I'm also getting a little bit of

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that too. I'm getting messages.
I really love that interview with bo Wo.

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Who's good. People retweeting us who
I've never fucking met. These people

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like they have a dyna. You
guys have a social dynamic where you're able

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to come on a peer level.
Sure, yeah, and the artist is

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preped to provide like more comfortable candid
answers. Sure, you know, Like

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it's not like I'm in the hot
seat with Diane Sawyer, Like yeah,

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yeah. Well to be fair,
though, no matter how much I can

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prep someone, the girl still has
to pull off the interview which you did

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today spoiled Ivory. I would ask, would you like to discuss anything else

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you want to tell anybody? I'm
going to do your plugs, but is

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there anything else you want to say
you're working on or anyone you want to

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give a shout out to whatever.
I would like to give a shout out

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to Rockdums, which is my business
as partner who's Madam Tust. She runs

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a local BDSM social dungeon groupka base
where we are and if you search r

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O C D O M M ees
you will find that. Okay. And

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I'm also like there are a lot
of long term people like I Quin Lacy,

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who is now going by Quinn peaks, Like we did a lot of

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GGE content which opened me up to
a different market. There are certain people

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that just changed my mind on certain
things. Violet Doll is just like like

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inspirationally, Violet Doll is somebody I
would like to shout out as like an

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inspiration. And I think that's it, you know. I I think,

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like, really half of the job
is really just being yourself. Yeah,

636
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I mean, I think that's what's
taken us here too. I'm not trying

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to be anything other than the disgusting
pig. I am, ladies and gentlemen.

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Today we had with us Spoiled Ivory. You can find her on Twitter

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at spoiled Ivory, on Instagram,
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Ivory. On loyal Fans Spoiled Ivory
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to my free cams and check out
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pull out that. It'll be worth
there you go. Our listeners still

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half amex you know, No,
I know our listeners most of them,

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most of them are we We've had
some input. Ivory. Thank you very

645
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much for coming on with us tonight. Thank you for having me once again.

646
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Both of you guys, Shane and
Matt should get that. Yeah,

647
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you got it. You're good,
got us. Thank you for your worst

648
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.320
friend. I'm Matt. I'm Shane, thanks for listening. We will see

649
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.159
you next week. Thanks