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to all kinds of free stuff,
good good entertainment app It's Cabinet's Danny,

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It's me Mike Siroy, and we're
gonna do this thing now. All right,

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this is probably waiting for epic failure
it and all over it. I'm

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not even gonna set it up because
I've reset it up multiple times. I'm

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gonna quickly reset it up. I'm
gonna reset it to him right when I

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get on the phone. But uh, it's a guy I worked with thirty

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years ago, thirty two years ago, if I do my math correctly.

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We worked at a golf course together
in Sarasota, Florida. I remember being

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a cool guy. He really helped
me understand the game of golf. Compressed

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the ball with your irons, hit
down into it. H But he was

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a NASCAR fan. I was going
to the Daytona five hundred. I believe

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that you're Derek Cope one. He
said, hey, man, can you

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bring me something back? I'm like, sure, who's your favorite race car

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driver? And he said, I
don't know, Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt.

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It's a big ask. It's the
And I'm like, well, I'll

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see what I can do. My
dad got us pit passes were kind of

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right in all the good stuff at
Daytona. I got Richard Petty's autograph on

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the back of this pit pass,
the King, and he was cool.

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He was signing for everybody. Dale
Earnhardt crashed in the last lap. He

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famously could not win the Daytona five
hundred. He was at one of the

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lowest moments of his career and he
was walking through the pits. The intimidator

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mustachioed scary, and I said,
well, my friend Ron Gilligan said this

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was his favorite driver, so I
went for it. I was a little

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kid. He autographed the back,
so it's a pit pass with both the

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King, Richard Petty, and Dale
Earnhart written on the back of it.

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I drive all the way back to
Sarasota, I go to work, and

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I hand it over to a guy
named Ron Gilligan. I don't regret it.

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It felt good to do something nice
for somebody, and I think from

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when I remember, he was excited
to get it. I haven't really made

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much of an effort to find him, but we yesterday tracked Ron Gilligan down.

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He doesn't know what this is.
Because we talked to a coworker of

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his yesterday. We're going to cold
call him right now and tell him this

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whole story. There's a chance he
blinks and says I have no recollection of

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that. He may not even agree
to be on the radio. Yeah.

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I'm gonna a lot of different ways. I'm gonna try to just kind of

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sneak that one buy him. So
let her up. We were told yesterday

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that he'd be here, be in
the office today, cold calling Ron Gilligan.

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If you're just to everyone, pins
and needles, okay, run,

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okay, it was three yesterday.
It was three or four. Come on,

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after that setup. We told him
it was dangerous. Okay, it's

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climb back. Just that right.
It's a big auction warehouse. Huge.

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Look at their website, My god, massive, Look at a Ron Gilligan.

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Please, this is younger Ron.
Can I help you? This is

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the son of the original Ron Gilligan. I suppose all right. My name

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is Mike Siroy, and I think
I was a coworker of I believe your

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dad's then about thirty years ago in
Sarasota. That was me then, that

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was me? Okay, Ron,
My name is Mike Siroy, I'm hosting

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a morning show in Dallas, Texas. We are live on the air with

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me and my buddies Kevin and Danny. How are you doing, my friend,

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I'm doing well. Thank you.
You had two minutes to chat with

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us, sure, so were you
gonna? This is all nice, This

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is all kind. There don't to
worry about. Here. Was it Laura

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Loake Country Club that you worked at? Yes, it was all right.

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My name is Mike Siroy. I
was a little blonde, blonde teen and

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we worked together in the cartbarn and
golf operations. That is correct. Do

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you have any recollection of that name
or that person? I can't put a

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face to it, but I remember
Mike, and sorry, I can't do

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better than that. After thirty years. That's quite all right, thirty two

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years, if I do my math
right, And to credit you, I've

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always had you in my head as
the man who we were on the back

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of the range right next to Monica
Sellis's house. That's exactly right, and

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that was this is awesome. That
was the day. Yes, any of

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my friend's Dana, you have no
idea how excited we are we trying to

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track you down for twenty four hours. And we've heard this story for years.

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I've known Mikey for like twenty years
and he's always told this story and

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we rot to get to it.
But Kevin and I are like just I

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mean, it's like we've got Kareem
abdul Jabbar on the phone or something.

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Ron Gilly, I remember the day
that we were hitting on the back of

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the range and you were a good
golfer and you got me to hit the

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hit down on the irons and really
compress the ball. And in my head

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at some level I kind of credit
you with getting me to properly hit a

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golf ball. Well, thank you, and you're you're exactly right. And

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that was a rare day. That
place was so exclusive and we're barely allowed

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to hit golf balls at the golf
course. I just told them earlier.

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I actually got fired from that place. I don't even remember an old guy

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named Aubrey, but I broke Oh
yeah, this is awes yep. I

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remember Arey Aubrey was the one he
was stick to tens and twenties in his

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right pocket and just put his ones
in his left pocket and try and screwy

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about all the kids. Out of
their tip money. Yeah, we pulled

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our money and he would have the
five and ten dollars pocket back left right.

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Yep. I remember I was older
than you guys, and I actually

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called home and it said something to
my mother about what was going on.

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She says, well, don't get
yourself in trouble and get fired. I

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said, this is a bunch of
bs. So I called Aubrey out,

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and then Aubrey and I didn't get
along very well after that. At least

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everybody got their fair shake. Well, I got fired indirectly by Aubrey because

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I broke his wooden chair the day
that the Orlando Magic got the number one

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pick overall, meaning they would get
Shaquille O'Neill. Oh, that's funny,

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it's funny. Yep. I remember
Aubrey. And then was Bob, Bob

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Dombroski I think was his name,
was the guy was like in charge of

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us? Okay, that's right,
there was a Bob. Was he the

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GM that scared us? Yep?
Yeah? And Aubrey was always the one

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that was is the church goer and
holier than now and stealing from us?

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Yep, exactly right. I hope
I don't offend anybody on the air that

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tracks. Actually, that's all pretty
much what I said. All right,

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well, amazing. I'm happy to
talk to you Ron. I know you're

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doing well. You're in Pennsylvania,
you got an auction house, and we'll

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be glad to pub it a little
bit later. But the main reason I

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wanted to have you on is because
I brought you a gift once and this

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is sort of a seasonal gift because
yesterday was the Daytona five hundred. Do

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you have any idea what direction I'm
going with that? No? I always

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went to the Daytona five hundred.
What did you bring me? Was it

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a hat? No? No,
I went with my dad, who was

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a boat racer, and he was
sort of off. Yeah it was something.

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Yeah, it was a signed Was
it a signed press pass from dal

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Oarnhardt? Whoa okay, yes,
holy crap, yes, validated once again.

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What it was exactly was I was
going to Daytona. We had talked

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a little racing, and I asked
you who your favorite drivers were, and

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you say Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt. That's correct. And I said all

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right, and I went there and
because we had a pit pass, I

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got Richard Petty to autograph it.
Early in the day I saw the King,

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and then after Dale Earnhart had crashed, I said, screw it,

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my man, Ron Gilligan, that's
the second driver, and I got both

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Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt Senior to
autograph the pit pass, and I went

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back to Sarasota and I gave it
to you. Yeah, I guarantee I

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have that somewhere in my collection of
items. I'm actually going to go find

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it now. You mentioned that,
well, amazing. I would love nothing

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more than to just see a photograph
of both sides of that pit pass to

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ensure that it didn't all happen in
my head. But I'm glad you kind

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of remember. Oh I do remember
now, yep, yep. But it

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took me a second. I knew
you got me something signed. That's what

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it was. So Ron, how
old would you have been about this time,

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because Mike you had been twenty three, So Mikey, you were probably

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what like sixteen? Maybe probably sixteen? Yeah? Is that right? Yeah?

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Okay, Okay, that's awesome.
So my question was to Mikey earlier

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or yesterday, It's like, I
wonder if you giving him this, you

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know, what's prop now. It
might be I don't know, worth a

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few bucks if that was maybe starting
the end or created the inspiration for you

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to get into the business that you're
in now. I know what started me

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to get in the business I got
into is Mikey and I working down there,

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and I wasn't going to make much
money doing that. I was doing

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so I can back home and got
in the auctioneering business, which is the

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best thing I ever did, really, And now I played golf once a

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year, believe it or not.
Oh, come on, he had a

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sweet swain. I mean, we're
very lucky. We're busy as we are.

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See you run. We saw the
website. You run an get pubbet,

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I'm pubbe whatever you want. Man, we got a big audience here

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in Dallas. Oh. I just
do everything local. But it's great to

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talk to everybody in Dallas. I'm
glad to help. I think I actually

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got fired because Aubrey was friends with
some assistant pro hated my guts because we

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used to get in so much trouble
down there, and I think he said

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that I was stealing golf balls out
of Monica Sellus's bag. My god,

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right, yep, that would be
like him to do that. Yeah sucks.

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Yeah, Aubry sucks. That's the
thing is, see when you were

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and Ron knows this, when you
work at a golf course, like you're

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working there so you can play free
golf, you know, and they were.

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It was a kind of a new
course. It was beautiful, I

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remember, very kind of exclusive.
But they wouldn't let us out there at

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all. No, you couldn't do
anything. Yeah, well damn it,

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Ron, that's amazing. Honestly,
I've had your name in my head for

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a long time, mainly because you
taught me how to hit an iron properly,

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but also because of that Dale earnhart
h Richard Petty thing that I remember

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giving you thirty two years ago.
Oh I'm glad I could remember all that

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and verify all your truthfulness. Thank
you with Ron's recollection of detail and facts.

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I mean, but Mikey even told
us earlier about Aubrey is like,

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yeah, you had the one dollar
pocket and the five dollar part pocket,

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but I mean Ron's only difference is
it was a ten and a twenty dollars

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pocket. Oh yeah, yeah,
he was definitely he was definitely knew what

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he was doing. Ron. You
may not know it, but you're a

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legend here in DFW. I mean, our listeners are like, we're getting

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like instant feedback. I can't believe
it. The real life Ron Gilligan on

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the phone. People were asking for
his autograph, Like, we've been talking

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about you for a couple of days. For longer than that, Ron,

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because I've had a show on and
off in Dallas for almost twenty years,

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and every time Daytona comes around,
we'll kick around some old stories and I'll

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always tell that one about how because
that's an incredible you know, Dylor Hunt,

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Richard Petty's a pretty cool thing to
have on a pit pass for sure.

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And I'm like, I had it
and I gave it to this guy

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who said he was fans of them
both. So I bring up the story

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a lot, and it's obviously a
memorable name, Ron Gilligan. So yesterday

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I was like, we're gonna we're
calling Rodn Gilligan and someone texted, Oh

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my god, you're gonna effing get
Ron Gilligan on the phone. Yeah,

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right, what do you think that
press pass would actually be worth? I

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mean, you probably have a good
idea of being in this type of business

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in the NASCAR World. It probably
worth good money. I'm going to I'll

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have to find that thing you got. Whenever you're off the air, give

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me a buzz back. I'll get
your number, and if I will find

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that, i'll text your photo of
it. I would love to just see

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a picture of both sides of that. I can do that. What a

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day. That's really cool. Honestly, I feel very very happy to talk

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to you. Great memories, and
honestly, he's right, there was some

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If you work at country clubs,
there are some mean people and some shooty

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people. But I remember and when
you're sixteen, someone who's twenty three is

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like older and yeah, cool,
And I just remember Ron being a really

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cool dude who took good care of
the youngsters. And it's just good to

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hear from you and really cool to
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Man, I want me to say
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at the country club, Mikey,
what I've learned about if I go to

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a restaurant and tip, I learned
everything I learned at that golf course.

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I learned that a guy that worked
for himself and made his own money would

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hand us five dollars as fancy you
can get out of his pocket. And

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the guys that their parents worked and
made the money or their grandparents made the

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money. And these people didn't do
anything in their life. They couldn't get

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a dollar out to give you for
taking the clubs out of the car or

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cleaning their clubs for them. And
I've always made my own money, and

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I've always taken good care of people
out and about tipping wise, I learned

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that from that job, Hey,
Amanda, that I try to be a

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very good tip for myself. I
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but maybe it's working in that industry. Uh, set us. You

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need to give me a call on
college football season. I'm located about in

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the shadow at Penn State Beaver Stadium, So whenever Texas is back up on

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top of Penn State is again,
we'll talk some more. Let me tell

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you this. I don't I wouldn't
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but I grew up with before I
met you and to this day,

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and I'm great friends with Manny Diaz. You're departed, right, Yeah,

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yeah, he grew up in Miami. We we all went to school together.

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Well, we just lost him to
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he was made. Our defense was
outstanding this past year. Yeah,

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he's a stud. Ron Gilligan,
man, I can't believe that the Ron

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Hey, Ron stannhold our producer JJ
will get your cell phone number so Mikey

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can text you. Yeah, good
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hell? That is like the best
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Ron is awesome. I make a
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Rob freaking yeah gill So he had
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exactly your age. It's insane,
so awesome, dude. I'm so happy

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because even when I said it,
he was like, I don't know,

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you bring me a hat or something. But then he stopped me. Wait

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a minute. Yeah no. By
the way, he sounds like he could

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have been on dragnet. Yeah,
dude, what a great fifty. That's

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the power of a landline. Dude. Yeah, but that too, like

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if you someone brought up something from
twenty five years ago, another thirty thirty,

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thirty two years, Well, it's
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that's that's want to see it.
He probably knows pretty close to where it's

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at too, of where it is. I remember how they signed it like

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kind of diagonally. I just I
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held it in thirty plus years.
How do you feel right now? I'm

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really stoked, man. It's good
to I mean, it's cool to hear

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just some memories of working there and
just the money thing with Aubrey. I

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don't know, it's but just somebody
that you haven't actually spoken to in over

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thirty years. And to have that, I mean it took a second or

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two, but not long. Ye. To have all that, the clarity

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and the memories and the recognition come
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that conversation, that's got to be
a really kind of a cool feeling,

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like being reunited with a long lost
family member to a certain degree. Yeah,

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I remember being a cool dude,
cool dude, and he still is.

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I thought he was about to invite
invite us up to Penn State game

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for the white out. Yeah.
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look, man, it sounds like
you're doing really successful. You don't have

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time to play. You gotta put
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Just a little bit a scratch the
start show, throw it out,

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your uh your it maybe your theory
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on purpose and it works now because
no one sees websites like that. Ron

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sounds very old school. I kind
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seemed kind of yeah, it seems
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and just said, you know what, this website works right works on.

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That was cool. Good job,
Ron, so cool that you Ron Gilli

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super tas real quick the President's We'll
do it next and the talk backs.

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Olivia Rodrigue is twenty fantastic. Oh
vampire song, I'm a fan. Flay

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up. She just turned twenty JJ. We cranked my audio up for a

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minute. I'd like to do one
hint because I made a little playlist for

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Mike. I haven't sent it yet. I'm curating a pop playlist for you.

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Uh, not that I'm god of
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like you would like Olivia Rodrigue like
I think you would like it. He

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likes the Vampire song. I love
the Vampire song. Kevin's making you a

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mixtape. I am. I'm making
Mike a mixtape. Do you think maybe

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you wouldn't like it. I don't
know. Maybe you think it sucks.

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This is here you go. This
is Olivia Rodrigue for you, Mike,

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I think you like everything. I
listened to it. Give it a chance,

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Danny on bass for you, domb
Really easily you found a new girl,

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and it only took a couple of
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you want it. It gives me
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sto it now. It just hit
me as like our audience is going.

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I like her. Sound man just
played the Vampire song. I would have

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instantly been happened. She had definitely
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I think here we go with more. This is Kevin's favorite. I love

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Olivia Rodrigo. She's great. Well, you love Paramore. I love Paramore.

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They're great. I didn't know she
was nineteen twenty when I saw that

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performance. Do you be Grammy?
Do you feel I don't know guilty?

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No, I wasn't horny watching her. I thought it was a great performance

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and a cool song. She doesn't
look young to the this much horny?

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That was zero horny. Jerkson profars
thirty Mikey, don't stick me in the

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eye and say that you want this
much horny. I've never that much horny.

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That's much horny, Okay, mane
under six. I didn't have a

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boner watching her performance song my Grammys. I just thought it was a cool

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song. JJ just made stink face
and you said boner. Okay, who's

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Profar? Jerkson? Profar is thirty
There we go, Rihanna's thirty six.

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She's saying you nasty now. Danny
had boner patrol when she did the pregnant

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Super Bowl halftime show. What she's
divine? She's absolutely divine. I think

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I could say not she is.
But there's something about Rahoney really oh boy,

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but you know what it is.
It's I think she would just beat

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the absolute crap out of me.
Yeah, you know why, because I

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deserve it. God, that was
telling you watch this watermelon head. Jeez,

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someone wants some femdom. I know
why you want to crush. Now,

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don't bite your bottom lip after you
say that he does. That's right,

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baby, come and get it.
He wants someone to tell him he's

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a disgusting idiot. Pig. You're
the pig. I could not keep up

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with Rihanna. There's no way,
leap up? Yeah, no one could

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she rolls deep he he's have Rockies, probably having our time keeping up with

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Rihanna as soon as possible, Rocky. Yes, Miles Tyler's thirty seven Miles

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Tyler. Oh, you're clapping for
miss Teller, Aaron Rodgers fan. He's

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one of Aaron Rodgers buds right justin
Verlanders forty one and if you want,

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you can see about a minute of
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There's that video out clapping cheeks.
Really pull that up. Stefan Marburry's

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forty six up. Strawberry came out
with affordable Basketball. Shoot. Hell yeah,

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he did thirty five bucks for a
minute. Yeah many times? Is

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Donald Trump played basketball? Why that
come because he's selling high tisketball shoes?

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Yeah, gold basketball shoes. Dude, all right, I know you want

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to pair. Oh I do want
to pair. Let me tell you the

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racket on top of the racket,
on top of the racket. Uh huh.

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So I was looking at the eBay
yesterday, looking at final sales prices

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four thousand dollars for some of these
some of these eBay these things don't get

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delivered until July. Like, even
if you won the pre order and paid

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the four hundred dollars, you don't
get the shoes till July. They're waiting

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for the reissues if you ever get
the shoes. But even if you do,

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there are multiple accounts on eBay with
zero feedback that are selling these for

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four plus thousand dollars in credible zero
feedback, meaning they didn't win the damn

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shoes. They're never getting the shoes
if you buy them from someone with zero

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feedback. They started that account to
sell you a pair of shoes that doesn't

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exist yet and that they will never
have. It's amazing. I wonder where

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they get four g's and cash out. I wonder where they learned their business

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model from Aubrey. From Aubrey,
I don't know from Aubrey at what's the

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country Club? Laurel Oaks, Laurel
Oaks. Andrew Sho's fifty seven. He's

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Billy on Melrose Place. Also,
yeah, he was married to Amy Woaba

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whoa wombach whoa back Ammy warm back
no woa bore. She started having interactions

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sexually with her co anchor TJ.
Holmes. What's his name? You're telling

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the story of America Affair. She
the woman in the Good Morning America Affair,

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was married to Andrew Shoe Billy from
Melrose Place. Good. Cidy Crawford's

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fifty eight Good, There we go
Old fifty eight, Yeah, forever,

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Fritz Stewart's sixty, Charles Barkley sixty
one, the round Mound of rebound,

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nicky Yeah. Mitch McConnell is eighty
two eighty two. Huh, he is

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just pausing, screen saving, pausing. He's tired, pH let him leave

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him be. Oh, I I
am tired. His thoughts just came back.

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He's good now. Uh. And
Kurt Cobain would have been fifty seven

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Christina. Tough day for Christina.
We'll hold out a thought for her coming

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up next. Let's go. I
gotta call around Gilligan Off the Air Presidential

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Explosion, Part two. Plus.
You've sent in some very funny talkbacks so

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far today. I know I've been
tracking them. We'll get those to you

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on ninety seven to one. The
freaking