WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:07.200 My name is Mary and I'm fifty seven years old and I worked as a 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:16.440 hairdresser, and I have had several experiences with sat squatch, my first being 3 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:23.039 when I was four years old. I had sort of a memory of well, 4 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.559 all of us kids had been playing down at this two story fort and 5 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:33.079 it was an open fort, and it was in the back of a neighbor's 6 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.719 house about three houses down, and it was in the summer, and all 7 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.679 of us were playing on this fort, and it was an open fort. 8 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.679 It had a first story that was just an open plank, and then it 9 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:49.039 had a second story with a ladder that went up to the second story, 10 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.840 and then just below it, it kind of declined and it went into the 11 00:00:53.960 --> 00:01:00.280 railroad tracks. This was in Portland, Oregon, and really close to the 12 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.000 city, but there was a lot of fruit trees and BlackBerry bushes and mounds 13 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:10.920 everywhere, and anyways, it was in the fall and all the kids had 14 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:14.000 gone to school, but being four years old, I was too young to 15 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:21.120 go to school. So my parents had a couple friends over and they told 16 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:26.079 me that we were moving and they were loading up a truck and just unpacking 17 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.799 the house or well packing up everything, and I decided I wanted to go 18 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.439 see that fort. So I went out the back door because both the front 19 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.120 and the back door were open, and I went out the back door when 20 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:44.560 my parents weren't looking, and I walked up to the sidewalk and I walked 21 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.879 down past the house and then down to the fort. And when I got 22 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.560 there, I just walked straight up to the fort. I never really looked 23 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.519 up. And when I got there, I was standing at the base of 24 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.719 the fort, and I looked up and I saw these hair covered beings. 25 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.680 And then I remember looking at him and thinking, well, in nineteen sixty 26 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.400 eight, their Planet of the Apes came out, and this was in nineteen 27 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:15.759 sixty nine, and so I looked up and I thought, maybe Planet of 28 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:20.000 the Apes is real, but these don't look like Planet of the Ape characters. 29 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.759 And then the next thing I remember is I'm walking back home and the 30 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:30.000 world feels just really large and big, and I walk into the house and 31 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.080 my dad's like, oh, there you are, and he picks me up 32 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.439 and he puts me on the fire hearth. That's what I remembered, and 33 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.719 all my life it's kind of haunted me, and over time I kind of 34 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.840 started to lose like how many of what did I see? And what did 35 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.280 it look like? And what did they look like? And of course then 36 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:54.800 I didn't remember anything else either as far as how did I get from being 37 00:02:54.840 --> 00:03:00.360 back at that four too, I'm once suddenly walking home, And so I 38 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:06.479 decided to seek out a hypnotherapist that works with people who have sasquatch experiences or 39 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:13.360 alien experiences. And I was hypnotized over like a three month period three times, 40 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.840 and I was able to recover all the memories, which is really good 41 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:22.000 because it makes me feel better to at least know what happened. I always 42 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.919 thought that maybe this was an alien experience, because I always associate missing time 43 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:31.280 with aliens, and I never thought that a sasquash encounter can have that same 44 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:36.039 effect to you. So I'm going to start off with you know, I'm 45 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.759 down at the base of the fort and I look up and what I saw. 46 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:45.280 I saw a male sasquatch, saw four sasquatches. There was a mail 47 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.479 one. They were smaller, They were not very big at all. They 48 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:54.439 were between say three and a half feet to maybe five foot tall. So 49 00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:00.759 there was a mail that was just right above me and then beside him was 50 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:09.960 a female than another female than a male, and they were terrified of me, 51 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.719 or they just looked at me like I shouldn't see them, you know. 52 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.879 It was kind of the look they gave me, and they weren't happy 53 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:21.759 at all about me being there. And the males you could tell that they 54 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.839 had pectorial muscles, and I couldn't see their feet, because I mean, 55 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.600 I'm really looking directly up at them, but you could see their pectorial muscles. 56 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.639 You could see their shoulders a little more bulky. The female ones. 57 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:39.319 They were shoulders were much more slight kind of and smaller, and they didn't 58 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.079 have any breasts, which kind of tells me that they were probably juveniles. 59 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.399 I never saw their feet, but I saw their faces, and their eyes 60 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.759 were well, they could see the white of their eyes, and they were 61 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:56.839 actually a light blue. The iris was a light blue. Their skin was 62 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.959 sort of brown, kind of a tan brown, kind of darker. They 63 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.639 had really like a burnt red at the base of their hair, and then 64 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:12.920 as the hair went out on the hairshaf longer, probably about four to six 65 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:16.000 inches on the arms and stuff, it went into a lighter almost like the 66 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:20.399 color of a golden retriever, but really being kind of more dark red at 67 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:27.800 the base and on their bodies. But then what happened next was the larger 68 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.519 the mail, which was closer to me, the juvenile mail, he jumped 69 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.519 down from the fort and grabbed me by the shoulders and he screamed into my 70 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:44.680 face. It was a very it's like a woman dying type scream, you 71 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.240 know, like you hear people describe. But that scream just went right through 72 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:55.040 me. And he let go of me, and I just staggered back and 73 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.480 fell on my butt. And then he put his fist on the ground with 74 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.759 one arm, and then with his other arm he grabbed the four the post 75 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:08.959 on the four, and he pulled himself up to the top with the other 76 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:14.160 ones like a monkey would do, kind of just all in one smooth movement. 77 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:20.439 And then what happened was, as I'm sitting on the ground across the 78 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:28.360 railroad tracks, an adult male staff squash comes out on all fours, not 79 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.680 in like a spider crawl, but kind of like how a cougar or a 80 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:39.839 cat would crawl, except for it rushed me and its fingers splayed out and 81 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:46.639 rocks were kicked up from its hands, and it growled at me and at 82 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:51.360 that very same time, the four juveniles grabbed the trees and went from tree 83 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:57.040 to tree. The four ran back from where that adult, so it's now 84 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:01.040 it's just me and the adult that they went into the black bushes where that 85 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:08.639 adult came from, and he was on all fours, and he growls at 86 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.439 me, just this really nasty growl, and I could see his teeth, 87 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.720 and he was he had darker hair, he had more chocolate brown. His 88 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:24.319 face was a little bit darker too, and his eyes were just really vicious, 89 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:28.480 and you know, scrunched up as he's growling. Of course, and 90 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.720 you know, I don't recall any kind of smell necessarily, but his muscles 91 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:38.759 were just big and bulky. But if I could put him at any kind 92 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.279 of an age compared to a human, I would say anywhere from you know, 93 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.639 like eighteen nineteen or maybe into his early twenties. So he was kind 94 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:53.560 of a young sasquash and lean, but extremely muscular, not a giant one 95 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:57.639 like you see the big giant ones or you know, not like Patty from 96 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:03.600 the Patterson film. But then he just turned around and he went back into 97 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:09.959 the bushes, and I remember specifically seeing his butt going back into the bushes 98 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:15.240 and he had really long hair on his back end, so it almost kind 99 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.720 of looked like a bear retreating, you know, except for it wasn't, 100 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:24.600 you know. And that was my first encounter. I sat there and I'm 101 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.720 pretty sure I got hit with infrasound, and finally I just got up and 102 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.960 I wandered back. And when I kind of came back too, was when 103 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:37.279 I was back on the sidewalk, and I, you know, it was 104 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.840 more aware at that point. I guess the infrasound had worn off, but 105 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.000 it just put me into a state of shock. So that's kind of why 106 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.440 I didn't remember it. I think my brain decided that I didn't need to 107 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:56.399 have that experience or not to remember all of it. And then my next 108 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.039 thing that I had happened was when I was in my late thirties and again 109 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.759 I'm in Oregon and my first husband and I we were going to go out 110 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:11.759 to eastern Oregon and that was our kind of our destination, and we decided 111 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.960 to go camping. Well, we were going to go up to Salt Creek 112 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.320 Falls that's off Highway fifty eight up in past oak Ridge or that sort of 113 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.240 thing. And I had my Corgy with me. He was not good with 114 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:28.120 other dogs, and when we got up to Salt Creek Falls to camp, 115 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.480 there was some people there that had pit bulls that were off leash, and 116 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.279 I knew that wasn't really safe for my dog because he was pretty aggressive with 117 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:41.039 other dogs and they weren't containing their dogs. So I pulled out the map 118 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.039 and we decided to go ahead and go up of another twenty four miles or 119 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.840 twenty miles, I can't remember how long it took up a logging road to 120 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.440 a lake called Blair Lake. We got up there and it was starting to 121 00:09:54.480 --> 00:10:00.320 get really dusky time, and we looked around and I remember thinking king in 122 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.120 my head, oh no, this is terrible, because there was a whole 123 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.799 bunch of ripe huckleberry bushes all around the lake, and I was really concerned 124 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.519 about a bear coming in. So we didn't have a camp fire. We 125 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.840 just set up the tent. There was no way to go back because it 126 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.320 was getting dust time, and that's windy, twisted. It's really pretty unsafe 127 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.000 to exit at that point, so we just kind of kept it low. 128 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.919 We went right to bed, and about one forty in the morning, I 129 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.720 wake up and you know, I look at my watch and I have to 130 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:35.279 go to the bathroom, but I hear coming off. So you go up 131 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.799 the logging road and there's there's the lake right there, but right off the 132 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.200 logging roads where I camp. And then there was about a sixty to seventy 133 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:48.799 degree incline up a hill, and coming off of that hill behind my tent, 134 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:56.240 I hear what I thought was elk. But when the elk, or 135 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.559 what I thought was elk, got to the road, it became three petal 136 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:05.080 things. One walked on one side of my tent, the other one walked 137 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.159 on the other side of my tent. I'm awake, my husband is asleep. 138 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.320 And the third one walks just at the curvature of the lake. It's 139 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.919 a very small lake, so it was still very close by. And they 140 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:22.320 all went from one foot to the other foot in sync with each other, 141 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.240 and the earth I could feel the earth moving, and it was the weirdest 142 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:33.039 thing. I heard no sounds as far as and no noise otherwise, and 143 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.320 they just kept going from one foot to the other foot in sync with each 144 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.080 other, and it made the I don't know, it was almost like a 145 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.240 rock of eye behaviy kind of you know, because I mean, after I 146 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.679 got over being kind of scared about it, and I had to go to 147 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.200 the bathroom really bad. So I kept thinking, well, I can't go 148 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.759 out there because if this is Elk. At that time, I just said 149 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.679 I couldn't even fathom sasquatch, and I was at a state in my life 150 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.440 where never had I had big foot on the brain. I mean, so 151 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.279 I had to go the bathroom, but I was I was worried too that, 152 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.840 well, if it is hell, you know, I could get kicked 153 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.879 in the head. You know, if I get out of my tent, 154 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.120 it might back kick me, and then you know that's not good. So 155 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:16.440 I thought, well, there's just no I'm just gonna have to hold it, 156 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.919 you know, and I'm not getting out of my tent. And then 157 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.399 you know, it lasted for about forty minutes because I kind of checked my 158 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.159 watch again when I just realized there was no more movement. The earth was 159 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.279 no longer moving, they weren't making the footsteps, and it just went quiet. 160 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:37.639 I never heard anything walk away, nothing, So I just forced myself 161 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:43.240 to go back to sleep and woke up the next morning like it's the dawn 162 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.080 of light. I didn't think to go look for tracks or look at anything 163 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.039 around me. I just you know. My husband woke up with me and 164 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.960 he's like, wow, that's the best night of sleep I ever had. 165 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.120 And I did try to shake him awake, but he just would not wake 166 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.399 up. So it was for me, only us. But yeah, we 167 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.679 got the tent together and packed up, and he drove and I fell asleep 168 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.360 in the car because I was up all most of the night. So then 169 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:15.480 my next encounter, I had moved out to Cottage Grove, Oregon, and 170 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.480 it was in March and it was just a beautiful spring day. So I 171 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:26.440 decided to take my dog up to see the woods. And she's a little 172 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:33.679 chihuahua docks and mix, and so I took her up to the woods and 173 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.960 I went up to this creek that's up in the mountains, and I felt 174 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.320 like I was just driving forever too. That was the weird thing about it. 175 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.840 It seemed like it should have been closer. I'd been to this creek 176 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.159 before, but I'm wondering, like, am I lost? What's going on 177 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.799 here? And so I get up there and I see that there's some road 178 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.440 construction, and so I talked I enrolled. My went and talk to this 179 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.000 guy who was working the road construction, and I told him, where's Bryce 180 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.360 Creek, you know, And he said to me, he's like, Oh, 181 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.000 it's just up here, the trailheads up here where that trailer is. 182 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.080 And I thought to myself, that's weird that there's a trailer there, because 183 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:16.480 you're not supposed to be up in the woods just off road on a trailer, 184 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.759 you know. So I thought that was really strange. But so I 185 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.519 thanked him, and he kind of warned me. He's like, you don't 186 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.320 be careful up there, and I thought, oh, that's weird that he 187 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.559 would say that, Like, you know, have they've been having problems, 188 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.720 you know, what's going on here. So I get up to the parking 189 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.639 lot and I'd been up there before, so I knew that you were supposed 190 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.840 to go up the road and there's the trailhead. If you go across the 191 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.120 creek, there's the trailhead that goes up there. But I know too, 192 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.000 at the beginning of the trail it's a lot up and down, up and 193 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.240 down before you really get to good views of the creek. So I'm standing 194 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.440 in the park lot and I look off and I'm like, well, I 195 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.840 could just walk up the creek on this side and I wouldn't have to go 196 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.519 up and down hills. And I didn't really want to stay very long anyways. 197 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.440 I just wanted her to see you know, she was found in a 198 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:07.120 homeless camp by a police officer in San Francisco, so she had never seen 199 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:13.440 the woods before. So I just walked into the creek there, and the 200 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.320 moment I stepped off the parking lot, this gravel parking lot and into the 201 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.279 woods, something was staring at me instantly, and whatever was staring at me, 202 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:28.960 it felt angry, very very angry, and so I turned my back. 203 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.720 There was a whole bunch of so there was the creek, and the 204 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.519 creek was really loud. It was a very shallow area of the creek, 205 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.080 kind of a wider shallow area, so it was very loud. But there 206 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.600 was a whole bunch of brush off to the side that you know, on 207 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.200 the other side of me, and that's where it was or whatever it was 208 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.639 that was staring at me. You know, I've been around cougars and bears, 209 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.159 I've been up in the mountains a lot growing up, but this was 210 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:02.440 really really different. And my dog kept looking at it too, and she's 211 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.600 looking at me very concerned, and I turned my back on it. In 212 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:10.039 my head, I just said to it, I said, I can feel 213 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:14.399 you watching me, and I said, don't scare me. I said, 214 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.440 I think maybe I know what you are, but I don't know. But 215 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.200 I don't want to see you. I really don't want to see you. 216 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:25.840 And then I said to it in my head, I said, I'm only 217 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.600 here to show this dog what beautiful place this is, and tell you what, 218 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.200 I'll make a deal with you. I'm just going to go up. 219 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.720 And I kind of looked up where I was going to walk to, and 220 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.320 I told it, that's where I'll go and then I'll turn around and i'll 221 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:48.159 come back. And so I started to walk, and it's following me because 222 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.480 it's still there, and I'm trying to show my dog. I'm taking my 223 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.559 dog and trying to pick up a stick and splash in the water. But 224 00:16:55.679 --> 00:17:00.559 my dog just keeps looking over at whatever's behind me, right and I'm trying 225 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.799 to steal a few glances. But I didn't really want to look at it. 226 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.680 I didn't really know what it was. I had an idea, but 227 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.640 so anyways, in the meantime, I'm trying to get over to the spot, 228 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:17.599 and I do. I finally get over there, and like I said, 229 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.680 my dog will not quit looking over that way. And when I had 230 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:26.519 my dog in the water and I was splashing the stick, the weird feeling 231 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:32.240 was that anger feeling with me turned to kind of a curiosity I could change. 232 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.200 I could feel this being's mood changed a little bit. I think it 233 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:41.480 was curious why I would like an animal like that, Like it was curious 234 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:47.480 why I had a relationship with that dog as weird as what. That's kind 235 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.279 of what I felt, anyways. But when I got up to that spot, 236 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.240 I just stretched and oh it was so beautiful looking in the forest, 237 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.640 you know, and I thought, God, I could just keep walking forever. 238 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:03.799 And when I said that, this big sense of dread bolt just went 239 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.839 right through me. And then it was gone. And I thought, yeah, 240 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.000 you know, if I thought I was talking to something back there, 241 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.799 I'm going to turn around and leave. And so I did. I made 242 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:18.400 my way back, and slowly again, my dog will not take its eyes 243 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.000 off, you know, she would look at the creek that she'd looked right 244 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.640 back behind me, like there was something following me, but again I didn't 245 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.440 want to see it, and again I stole some glances, but I didn't 246 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.680 see anything. But I got back. The word part was when I left 247 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.680 the forest, the moment I put my feet in the parking lot, everything 248 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:38.440 returns to normal. There's nobody watching me, Everything is just as normal. 249 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.880 So that was really weird. And so you know, I went by the 250 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.759 construction worker and I kind of waved to show him that nothing happened to me. 251 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.359 You know. So then after that, it's kind of like I had 252 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:55.680 the hitchhiker effect that people talk about. The next thing I remembered is I 253 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.480 found in my driveway where my husband parks his car too ourner snakes that are 254 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:07.279 in shape of the infinity, you know that symbol, but they're pinched like 255 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.480 someone had pinched it with fingers and left them there. And so that was 256 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:17.440 really strange. And then things got a little weird. I did get some 257 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.119 different rocks that I kept finding in my backyard and some really you know, 258 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:26.119 cool rocks. Eye so you know, it seemed weird that things like that 259 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:32.359 were showing up. And then there was one night or I was thinking, 260 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:38.839 oh my god, this doesn't really exist. You're thinking it does, but 261 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:44.799 it does not exist. You're just imagining it. You need to kind of 262 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:51.599 get back to being normal here. This doesn't exist. So the next day 263 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.880 I was playing my video game and I had a mic on, but it 264 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.079 was only like there's only one earpiece, and then there was a mic and 265 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.359 just a plastic piece on the other side, so kind of a half earpiece 266 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:08.480 on. And all of a sudden I heard a boom on top of my 267 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:15.160 house and then boom, boom, and something ran off my house. It 268 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.559 landed really hard, and I threw my headphones off, ran to the front 269 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:23.759 yard, and when I got there, in the back of my mind just 270 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.799 kind of my own voice, but a thought came, go down to the 271 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:32.680 field. If I go down safe houses, it's like five or six football 272 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.839 fields of grass. But something just told me to go down there and you 273 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.839 will see us. And I thought, no, no, no, no, 274 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.359 my house is damaged. It has to be damaged by how hard that 275 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:49.000 thing had landed on my house. And when it ran off, my dogs 276 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:55.200 alerted and every house down the street to the field all the dogs sounded off, 277 00:20:55.839 --> 00:21:00.000 so I know it wasn't just me that heard it, and so I 278 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.720 ran out to my back, and I looked up on my roof to see 279 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.000 what damage was done up there. But there was absolutely no damage, no 280 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.319 hair, nothing. It's almost as though I heard it or I imagined it, 281 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.880 you know, except where all the dogs were parking, all the dogs 282 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:21.680 sounded off, so that really it was kind of just like, hey, 283 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.920 we are real, don't you deny us? You know. It was kind 284 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:32.240 of the message I got from that. So then later on, so what 285 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:37.920 happened was I started, well, I had a friend who had a sighting 286 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:42.440 and I was jealous. I really was. I was very jealous of that 287 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:51.559 friend. And I was commuting to work, probably thirty minute commute in an 288 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.759 area of the woods that I go through to get to where I work. 289 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.039 Every time I went through that area, I would start asking myself. So 290 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.279 I ned, if you ever saw one, how would you want to see 291 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:07.799 one? And I kept thinking about it. It took me like, oh 292 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.799 gosh, three days worth of thinking about it. Every time I got to 293 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:12.720 that wood, I would think about it. I think, oh, i'd 294 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:15.559 want to see a big mail at a distance. Do you want to see 295 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:21.200 a younger male maybe closer, you know? And I finally settled on I 296 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:25.119 just on the third time, I just thought, I want to see a 297 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.519 female and up close that I would be comfortable with that. But I'm not 298 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:34.319 comfortable with seeing Maile. It would have to be a female. So the 299 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.960 very next night, and this was twenty nineteen, it was November eighth, 300 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.599 and it was at eight twenty at night, I'm sitting in my living room. 301 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.920 My husband's on his computer, and I have four dogs and two birds 302 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.880 and two kids. And the dogs were all asleep. And I look over 303 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:03.079 and my cell phone sitting right there, and I look over and I see 304 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:07.440 this foot go through. My curtains are shut. There's a sliding glass door, 305 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.079 and I see a foot come through the curtain, and then I see 306 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:18.880 the calf come through the curtain. And she just fully walks into my house. 307 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.720 And I cannot explain how she was able to do that. That's nothing 308 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:27.079 I explained. But I thought, well, I don't care. I want 309 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:33.319 to know what a female looks like, right, And so she's standing there 310 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.720 and she has these oh gosh, was she was solid solid black. She 311 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:44.920 had a lot of hair, her face didn't have much hair. But let 312 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.599 me just I'm gonna just start from the top because that's where my eyes started, 313 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.160 Yeah, she did have a little bit of a comunical head. She 314 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.759 was six seven sixty eight. I measured later because I had she stood underneath 315 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.759 my speaker, so I was able to measure her. But she had a 316 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:06.799 comical head. She looked pretty youthful. The hair kind of parted, you 317 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.359 know, down the middle, and then she had bangs coming down. And 318 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.920 then the thing about her hair was is that it was pitch black, so 319 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.519 shiny, and each hairstrand. Being a hairdresser, you know, I would 320 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:23.839 pay attention to this came to a wisp at the end. So that kind 321 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.319 of indicates to me kind of like you would look at your dog and look 322 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:30.000 at the hair on your dog and how it comes to a whisp at the 323 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.119 end, that it grows to a certain length and stops. And so she 324 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.720 did have a bang line that came down to her forehead. Now I don't 325 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.759 remember as I looked down her forest in the head, but I remember the 326 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:48.759 skin being kind of a little bit leathery and thick looking skin. But in 327 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.359 her case, she didn't look wrinkly at all, like you know, maybe 328 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.920 if you saw an older sasquatch, it would maybe have wrinkles. She didn't 329 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.599 have any wrinkles at all, so she looked very young, but just that 330 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.279 was extra thick. She did have a brow rich, but it was somewhat 331 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:11.480 subtle. The really weird thing about this one was her eyes. They were 332 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:18.400 very, very large. They were lit up blue, like a medium blue 333 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.799 that would be lit up sometimes you can see if you look at certain cats, 334 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.480 how their eyes light up like that. And it wasn't like it wasn't 335 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:30.720 reflection or anything. They were just literally kind of glowing like I used to 336 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:36.559 have a Himalayan cat with blue, guirly crystally light blue eyes. It was 337 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:41.960 like a cat's eye, and in fact, her pupil was almost cat shaped 338 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:48.200 too, like a cat. And in David Plotti's book The Tribal Bigfoot, 339 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.640 there's a girl in there, I think Annie, and it's an Indian name. 340 00:25:55.279 --> 00:26:00.359 But there's a picture that Harvey Pratt did of the eyes and the eyes 341 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.880 were so similar. And I saw that picture my heart just stopped because that 342 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.960 was kind of The face wasn't like the same, but the eyes definitely wore 343 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.160 and so if anybody has that book, that's kind of what I saw. 344 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.680 Anyway, So I avoided the eye contact with her. Because I knew she 345 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.559 was going to speak to me, and she looked angry, you know. 346 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.519 And one of the things she did when she first walked in, I forgot 347 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.000 to mention this, but she kind of was bent over just a little bit, 348 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.559 and she made a point of kind of shifting her shoulders and standing up 349 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.920 real straight, like she was telling me, we're just like you, you 350 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.720 know. Kind of she seemed ticked off. She didn't seem like she wanted 351 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.599 to be there, and that was one of the definitely feeling I could get 352 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.240 from her. But I did not look at her in the eye, and 353 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.079 so I kind of skipped. So I don't remember she has I remember she 354 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.480 had a brow ridge, but I don't remember if there was eyebrows or not. 355 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.519 I do remember looking at her cheekbones, and she had really high cheek 356 00:26:53.559 --> 00:27:00.359 bones, and she had hair, just a few pieces of hair on her 357 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:07.000 cheek. And then her mouth was really wide and it almost to jaw to 358 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:12.920 jaw, and her lips were really thin. Her nose was almost just a 359 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.799 sleight of nose. It wasn't really a very big nose at all, So 360 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.720 that seemed kind of weird. But the mouth was closed, and I'm glad 361 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.640 it was, because I think it was scarier to see it open or see 362 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:27.599 her teeth, but also as it went down to her jaw line, so 363 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.240 she really had a real angular face, you know, really high cheek bones, 364 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.880 very kind of narrow face. But when it got down to her jaw 365 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.440 line, all of a sudden, this short you know, just below her 366 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:44.359 jaw line on her neck was all the short black hair, like really short 367 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:51.039 black hair, and the hair going around her head was really long, like 368 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.599 I would say, anywhere between six and eight inches. And yeah, I 369 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.240 couldn't see her ears because there was too much hair there, so I could 370 00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.119 see where she would stay really warm. I did see one of her arms, 371 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.680 she had one on one side that I couldn't quite see, but the 372 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.759 other arm I could see, and she just held it down straight. So 373 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.039 as I started to look down her neck, I can see her shoulders, 374 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.160 which weren't very wide at all, probably no wider than any average female. 375 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:25.880 But her body was like just an athletic runner's body shape. And I looked 376 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:30.720 down at her breasts, and her breasts were they were a little bit more 377 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:37.599 tubular, like maybe oh gosh, three inches wide, and they came down 378 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:45.400 maybe oh maybe four inches long, but they did not lay on her body. 379 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.799 They actually were suspended, and she had black nipples, and her skin 380 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.119 was just really really dark black, and again that kind of leathery type skin. 381 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:02.720 And then her hands and her fingers. Her wrist was kind of slight, 382 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.680 but her fingers were longer than our fingers, and each finger tapered off, 383 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:15.400 and the nail bed was really thick and very rounded nail bed and not 384 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.680 very long, of course, but it was really thick, like yeah, 385 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:25.799 like a like an animal kind of thick, not not a claw. So 386 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:32.119 I looked down to her belly button, and she hadn't any belly button and 387 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:36.440 just washboard flat. There was almost there's like no fatter the skin. It 388 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.880 was just this leathery skin. And then as soon as it got down below 389 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:42.480 her belly button, you know, a couple inches below her belly button, 390 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.240 the hair starts up again so that you cannot see through. It almost looked 391 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.279 like she had bell bottom pants on, you know, And the hair was 392 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.480 really really thick. And then her feet were probably about fifteen inches, so 393 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.000 the hair kind of went down she parted over the top of the foot, 394 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:06.359 and her feet were about fifteen inches and her tone nails again were really just 395 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:11.720 like our tonails, but really thick and black. So that's what she looked 396 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:18.880 like. But so I went ahead and I looked back up into her eyes, 397 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.640 and in the back of my head I hear this her voice, and 398 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:32.640 she says to me, you see us now, like that really harsh voice, 399 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.559 and I just I automatically bowed my head, closed my eyes and I 400 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.440 said, thank you. You're beautiful to myself, you know. But I 401 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.640 was trying to get her to do the mind speak thing, I guess, 402 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:51.240 And when I looked up, there was nothing there. She was gone, 403 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.759 her energy was gone, her persona was gone. There was just nothing there. 404 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.480 And so that was that. And then the only other thing is after 405 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:07.559 doing this hypnosis, I came back for my third session with the hypnosis, 406 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.119 but about thirty days before, exactly to the date, I had been going 407 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:18.519 for a walk down to that field that's six houses down and it's about four 408 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.839 or five football fields wide, you know, or in the whole circumference of 409 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:30.039 it. And on the other side is a bunch of blackberries and scrub oh 410 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.720 that goes up for little ways and then it goes up into the woods. 411 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.319 But I was walking down there, and I walked down there almost daily because 412 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.960 I walk in the morning for exercise, and I go over there. You 413 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:47.319 know, it's spring obviously now it's getting closer to summer or it is summer 414 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:52.359 now, but everything's bright green. You know, there's blackberries, there's trees, 415 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:59.119 you know, deciduous trees, and standing right there is something that looked 416 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.920 like a redwood tree that was cut off maybe well to me, it looked 417 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.839 like it was maybe five or six feet tall. I'm sure if i'd gone 418 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.079 clear out where it was out, it was probably a lot taller. And 419 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:14.359 I'm like, that's weird. I've never seen that there before. And so 420 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.960 I went ahead and I just turned around. I walked away because I couldn't 421 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.720 get any detail on it, obviously, and I didn't really have the feeling 422 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.599 that it was watching me. It might had it. It's back to me 423 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.759 if it was a Sasquatch, I can't think of what else it would be. 424 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.559 But anyways, I walked back and went up to the next street that 425 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.519 also goes up to that field, and I walked around that way and I 426 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.000 get to that and I look over and it's not there, and I thought, 427 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.480 well, okay, that's weird. So I thought, well, I 428 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.279 don't want to go walking back up my street again to check it out because 429 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.960 I don't want the neighbors to think I'm weird. So when I got through 430 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.519 with my walk, I went back home, and the next morning I go 431 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:04.519 up the street and there's nothing there. So I decided to grab my binoculars 432 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.880 and I walked up there, and what I found it was weird. With 433 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:13.799 my binoculars, I scoped in on the blackberries and it looked like the blackberries 434 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.400 had there was big holes in it, but around the edgings of the hole, 435 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.000 it looked like the blackberries have been braided or twisted. So I think 436 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.640 animals and maybe sasquatches going up into those hills there, you know, it 437 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.720 just goes into distant woods. You know, not a whole lot is out 438 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.880 that way. There's no residences, nothing. There's a little bit of residence 439 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.200 going up into the country up there, but it kind of goes off in 440 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:45.279 a different direction. So that's pretty much what I've seen. Those are a 441 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:52.759 lot of interesting experiences. Yes, yeah, i'd say they are. When 442 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.599 you had that first sighting Mirry when you were four, were you more curious 443 00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.640 about the sasquatch you were with and saw or fearful. Well, you know, 444 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.880 at first, it was wonderment. You know, when I first looked 445 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.719 up, it was just curiosity. You know. I think I was just 446 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:13.360 too young to be afraid. But when it jumped down and screamed at me, 447 00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.559 that's when the fear set in, and that's when you know, I 448 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.119 fell down and I was very fearful. Yes, it's really a shame that 449 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.320 they had to do that, because, after all, you're four years old. 450 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.159 What kind of a threat could you pose. There's no reason for them 451 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:34.119 to do that, exactly. I think that was just protecting their own Well, 452 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.480 they could have left, and even the fact that you were there without 453 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:38.960 them leaving. What kind of a threat is a four year old going to 454 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:44.800 pose? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they just didn't want humans to 455 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.559 be close to they're young, that's the only thing I can think of. 456 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.840 You might be right about that, but I still think that's way over the 457 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.159 top for them to do that. Shame on them. Yeah, you told 458 00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.039 us about the lost time you experienced as well. Do you think that missing 459 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:07.920 time was due to something they did to you or totally within I don't know 460 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.239 if infrasound can do that. You know, I don't know enough about it. 461 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.199 I would have to consult somebody that knows more about what I mean. 462 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.360 I've heard an infrasound making people sick. But I wonder too if it's just 463 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:25.119 the fact that our brains have a shut off switch when you're having an experience 464 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.760 that is meant to not harm you as you grow up, it just shuts 465 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.280 it out. That's a good point into all those points might be responsible for 466 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.599 what happened to you with the missing time. It's really hard to say. 467 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.519 Yeah, if I had to bet though, somehow, some way, I 468 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.880 think infrasound was responsible for that. Yeah. Yeah, because when that young 469 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.559 one screamed at me, it just felt like it ricocheted through my body. 470 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.440 All I bet it did. Yeah, they can be pretty powerful with their 471 00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:00.400 vocalizations when you want to see that hypnotherapist in't an attempt to recover the missing 472 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.440 time. Were you transparent with him about why you're actually there trying to undergo 473 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.719 hypnotherapy? Yes, yes, I told him about what was going on and 474 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.960 told him what I could remember and how there was never a day in my 475 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.840 life that I didn't remember or even thought about that experience. It's just that 476 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.960 I think as I kind of got older, I forgot obviously. I had 477 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.760 sort of that time where I finally got hit with the infrasound, So I 478 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:31.480 didn't remember that one jumping down from the form and grabbing me. But I 479 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.920 just remembered looking up at them, and I remembered it was several beings, 480 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.800 and that they were hair covered, and that they were afraid of me. 481 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.800 So that's what I remembered, and so that's what I told him again, 482 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.760 that is so strange that they'd ever be afraid of a four year old kid 483 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.199 like that, I mean, considering how powerful they were. Yeah, they 484 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.920 done whatever they wanted to do to you. It's just one of those things 485 00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.400 it's really hard to grab your mind around. Yeah. Yeah, it has 486 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.199 been for me too. And I think that the feeling I got was that 487 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.400 I wasn't supposed to see them. I wasn't supposed to be there. Yeah, 488 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.679 that might be behind it. The sasquatch you saw that day had blue 489 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.840 eyes. You said, did they have more of a human appearance or an 490 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:22.400 ape like one? More human? Yeah, totally human. They looked like 491 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:29.119 some kind of between some kind of animal and some kind of human. I 492 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.920 wouldn't say ape like, though, you know, they did have rounder faces 493 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.480 than like the one I saw them into my living room, but still the 494 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.639 eyes were very human, the nose, the mouth though, being that much 495 00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.800 larger. After having such a profound experience at such a young age, how 496 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.559 have you managed to have any sort of normalcy in your life? I don't 497 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:59.800 think life is too normal, but i'm you know, working with the hypnotherapist. 498 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.599 He's kind of taught me that it's an amazing life in it's an amazing 499 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.280 world, and just to don't be afraid, just enjoy and that this doesn't 500 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.559 have to mean because I'm like, what's going to be next, what's going 501 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.480 to happen next? And he's like, does there have to be a next? 502 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.239 Does there have to be something else? He goes, just enjoy the 503 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.400 ride. And so that's kind of how I'm handling it. That sounds like 504 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.800 really good advice to me. Can you remember if the male that approached you 505 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.360 from the tree line that day had a pointed head or a rounded head? 506 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:40.280 More rounded, yeah, more rounded the younger ones. The two males, 507 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.719 they had more rounder heads. One of the females had a little bit more 508 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:52.719 of a conical type head, but again it's not conical but saginal crest or 509 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:58.639 whatever they call it. One of the females had more of That was that 510 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.920 female with a conical head had bigger than the other sasquatch, including males. 511 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.079 The two males that were up on top of the ford, they were bigger 512 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.599 than the females. They were like, you know, one was probably like 513 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.639 five foot and the other one was probably four and a half foot. And 514 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:22.280 then the female with the conical head, she was bigger than the other female 515 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.840 who had more of a round her head. She was a little bit bigger. 516 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.679 She was maybe, oh maybe three and a half foot, and then 517 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:35.239 the other one is maybe three foot the other female. I see. Yeah. 518 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.519 The reason why I asked that is normally a conical head is a function 519 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:44.199 of size. Sasquatch that wind up having conical heads as adults, they normally 520 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.400 don't form until they atteen a certain size. So that's why I was wondering 521 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.079 if maybe that female with the conical sheep to her head might have been older 522 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.760 than the other ones and she was big enough to start having that conical sheep. 523 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.920 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, she was definitely older. 524 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.559 Then she was taller than the other female. And again that that conical you 525 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.079 could just see it starting to form a little bit. It wasn't, you 526 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.760 know, really much. But the one that walked into my living room, 527 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.760 hers was subtle too. Well, even the one that walked into your living 528 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.559 room wasn't all that big. I mean sixty seven sixty's she was when I 529 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.960 measured, it was like sixty seven. So to be all fairness, you 530 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.960 know, And I'll mention this too. About a year and two months later, 531 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.880 I had this lucid dream where I was walking out in the forest and 532 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.800 it was a moonlight night, and I walked to this opening in the forest 533 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.800 where it was just a circular opening, and I looked around at the trees 534 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.760 because it was really moonlight, and I saw this darker in the trees. 535 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.480 And when I looked at that area, this sasquash just came out again. 536 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.480 The one that came into my living room came out, and I said, 537 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.280 hey, how are you doing you? We were talking in the dream. 538 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.760 She was nice and friendly at that point, but she was also a lot 539 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.480 bigger, and I asked her, I said, how are you bigger? 540 00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:13.000 How you're much bigger than when you're in my house. And she said to 541 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.920 me, oh, she goes, when I came to visit you, she 542 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.320 goes, I was astually astral projecting. I made myself smaller so I could 543 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:27.599 fit into your house. But it was a dream. But it you know, 544 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.800 it's one of those dreams you don't forget either. Oh, I'm sure 545 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.599 you didn't forget it. Yeah, so maybe that explains how she got into 546 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.199 my house. I don't know. Yeah, that might be what was behind 547 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.639 it. It's hard to say, but I'm wondering though, Mary, did 548 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.079 you know that a lot of other eyewitnesses have reported seeing sasquatch walked through objects 549 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:52.280 and structures like your sliding glass door that's an actual structure, firm object, 550 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.280 including Tim Kimboo Baker. He reported seeing sasquatch walking into an impenetrable bush without 551 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:04.920 a single leaf moving. Yeah, you know, I'm I've heard stories of 552 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.119 things like that too. Of course, it piques my curiosity, especially after 553 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.360 this happened to me. It makes me wonder, like, if they can 554 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:17.519 astral project, would this be a way that they could. Let's say a 555 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.800 guy is in the woods and he's got his gun and a sasquatch comes out 556 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:30.280 and he shoots it, but it's just an astral projection, and it screams 557 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.480 and it runs off into the woods. And yet they go over and they 558 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.079 don't see any blood, They don't see anything there. Maybe it's astral projecting. 559 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.920 I don't know, it could be that. You know, I've thought 560 00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.519 there's so much through this. Maybe maybe that's a way of bringing themselves to 561 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.360 our awareness in a safe way for them. Because what I saw in my 562 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.239 living room was as solid and real as anything could be. Really it was. 563 00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.480 There was nothing transparent, There's nothing. She was there as far as 564 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.760 I knew. There was no smell, and I would think for her size, 565 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.360 I have wood floors. I would think I would hear creaking. I 566 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.360 would think my dogs would have woke up, but nothing of the sort. 567 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.760 If they can't astral project, it really makes you wonder what the limits of 568 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:22.400 their abilities are exactly. And also just having that hitchhiker effect when I went 569 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.119 out into the woods, thought maybe I was around one. I don't know. 570 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.280 I can't prove it, and I don't want to prove it. But 571 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.440 then having you know, all this stuff start happening at my house, it 572 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.400 hasn't been bad. But you know, I'm not afraid to go into the 573 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.760 woods, but I think I do have a heightened awareness. Now I can 574 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:46.320 understand why you would have one after these experiences. Why can't thank you enough 575 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.719 for coming on and sharing the details of those experiences with us, Mary, 576 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.800 I really appreciate it. Oh, thank you, thank you for having me. 577 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.519 Oh, you're welcome. Thanks against so much for your time, and 578 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:09.119 have a great night. That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with 579 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:14.480 Vic Candiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would like to be a 580 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.559 guest on the show, please go to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a 581 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:23.159 report. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, Have a 582 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:23.760 great night.