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afternoon, everybody, Welcome to I

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's

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jagn Zos. I woke up this
morning thinking, okay, j who we're

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gonna get for Wednesday show today?
I realize it's only Tuesday. What's the

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summer end? Can we just take
the summer technically, technically, it's not

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summer yet. June twenty, in
another seven days, you got another week

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of spring. It's starting to feel
like summer out there, though there's still

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in a vacation. From my vacation. I was out headed to a breakfast

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at six o'clock this morning. It
was already its already worked was it was,

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it's gonna be warm this weekend.
Yeah. Bad. Now we've been

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we've been, we've been boiled.
We've been lucky. It's it's it's not

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been horrible. Um, you know, we were lucky down a rocky point

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a week after week before last week, we see we got some great weather.

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You know, the day that we
golfed, it was a light breeze

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and it was in the low eighties
and it was beautiful. So yeah,

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we've been fortunate. And look by
this time we've had a bunch of one

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hundred degree jays and you know,
we're it's okay. And you know what

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if you take if you go take
a walk like at dusk, it's awesome.

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It's yeah, it's been great.
So yeah, okay, well here

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we are Tuesday. Got a pretty
good show. We have a lot to

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talk about. How about them Nuggets? How about them nuggets? Even Look,

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the game looked horrible, but it
was a good game towards competitively.

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Yeah, no, you know,
I had it on most of the way.

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Ended up run I did run out, go out and run an errand

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right as it was, it was
ended. But um, it was a

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good game. You you collected a
little from your friends the draft Kings.

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Yea, I threw out a little
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I hit that. So um,
good day, a good man, good

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day, good day. So it
was it was fun. It was good,

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good NBA and we kept us talking
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yeah, you know and and it
was a good series. I think,

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um it was a good playoffs.
I mean, I mean overall the playoffs

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overall, we're fun watch, you
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storyline there, you know, the
Lakers storyline with with Lebron Lebron, you

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know, the Warriors and all their
drama. You know, they didn't get

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you know, the Suns. You
know, everybody thought the Sons were gonna

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win the West and and then you
know, and then they couldn't pull it

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off. So there was a lot
to talk about it. We talked about

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it a lot, and it was
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now. So now we continue on
for baseball. We have a couple of

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months before we get to you a
football, uh you a basketball. A

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lot of things going on. Congrats
to uh, to Aaron Gordon and to

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Zeke Nagi. Yeah, well you
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was, I got, I got
curious. They are the ninth and tenth,

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ninth and tenth players out of Arizona
to win champions I think the uh

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Javier Morales and Justin Spears said kind
of did a list like that ten only

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ten. I thought it was more
than I'm looking at I'm looking at an

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easy central story that lists. I
mean it's Gordon and Naji, uh,

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Andre Goodallas, Steve Kerr, Richard
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uh Sean Elliott, lukewal Right.
Okay, so maybe he was talking about

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list or the number of titles.
Yeah, yeah, this is the number

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of guys. I mean kur Her
has seven. You know, well ker

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won through I think he's got four
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Um Iguodala has four, Uh Walton
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both got one, um Jason Terry
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know, obviously Nagi and Gordon haven
one. So there's a bunch of championships.

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But ten guys have won those championships. And again Kerr with seven.

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He's crazy. So right, well, I'm trying to fread what no Kerr

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has. No, Kerr has nine
because he's got five as a player,

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he's part of three with the Bulls, two with San Antonio, and then

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four as a coach. That's nine
greens he has. That Is that right?

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Probably right? He's got a number
of them. He's got a number

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of He's justined for the for the
Hall of Fame. I think someone had

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mentioned that a couple of months ago
because of what he's done, not so

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much on the court obviously as a
player, although he did a lot with

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that and now was just as an
administrator, president of the sons Um and

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everything else sets involved. Yeah.
His Wikipedia says he's got nine. Yeah.

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Just so, like we said,
three with three as a player,

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three with the Bulls, two with
the Spurs and then um then four as

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a coach with the Warriors, you
know. And was he ever a star?

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No, but he was an important
player well on all those teams.

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I'll go with Zeke Naji, who
didn't play minutes, but he's a champion,

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right, yeah, so you know, but look that I mean that,

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you know what, And that's a
really good number for Arizona. Will

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always be able to throw that out
there too. Uh. Two fans,

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two recruits, a lot of other
people. So what we missed one Judd

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Bush, he's the ten. Okay
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some more. Okay, So here
here we go again. Here we go

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again. Let's start through. Okay, the two the two today? Yes,

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okay, okay, So you got
you got Naji and Nagy and Gordon's

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two. You've got Igodala. That's
three curs for Jefferson and Channions six,

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Jason Terry Is seven, Elliott eight, Walton nine, Bushler ten. Okay,

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Brian Williams, Brian Williams Chicago.
Did he win one? I was

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there, I was everyone create the
shot. Oh yeah, there he is

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right there. I missed william Yeah, I think that was left left.

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Yeah, yeah, when you when
you said Buschler, Yeah, okay,

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I didn't get to this last paragraph. Yeah. So it's got Buchler and

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and and Brian Wood. That's eleven
eleven players with right. That's that makes

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more sense because I knew I saw
you Levin. I didn't remember, okay,

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Okay, yeah, I didn't scroll
down far. There was a big

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freaking ad in the story and I
didn't get down to that last paragraph.

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Okay, So there you go.
But that's that's an impressive number for a

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program like Arizona. Yeah, well, you know, one of those blue

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bloods. I'm not gonna start.
I'm not gonna start because I've convinced you

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to Nate more. We've got we
we've we've we've kind of come to a

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nice little happy medium there. Yes, I just leave that damn alone.

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Let the sleeping dog lie Steve,
come on, man, summer, we're

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gonna poke the bear somehow, well
you are poking the bear. Don't poke

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the bear. Okay, So ahead, Yeah, we're talking about your guests

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are Yeah. So we got Jenny
Dalton Hill as Jenny Daland when she played

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at Arizona, three time, three
time national champion, All American, a

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National Player of the Year, Hall
of Famer, uh and uh and now

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an announcer for ESPN Softball broadcast.
So she'll come on talk a little bit

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about, you know, the just
the softball season in general. See what

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she thinks about what's going on in
Arizona um and uh and some of that.

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So, you know, again one
of the all time grades uh in

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Arizona softball during that nineteen nineties hey
day when they were winning the champion.

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Yeah. And she asked when I
talked to her yesterday, she says,

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okay, uh, sure, what's
the topic, because they always want to

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know they're gonna spring something on me. Yeah. So I said, okay,

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we're gonna talk about the state of
college softball as it is nil,

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which, of course they was not
there when she was there. Uh,

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and then and maybe talking a little
about Arizona softball words come and come and

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come to now and just you know
the world of college sports. Yeah,

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um, she hasn't. She's on
the ESPN. She has all these thoughts

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and she is one of the better
players to ever play her right, so

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her name is on the fence,
right, yea, I'm a fantastic player.

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Fantastic player. And then who did
you say that? And then Kelly

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Pears she doesn't win? You know, she does win. She's over at

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the FC two song women have gotten
started, and uh, she just keeps

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winning. Uh, as as you
know what we talked. Did we talked

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to her after her No, we
didn't. We never talked at the point

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points four in the rule. I
think she'll she'll Yeah, Kelly Beer frequent

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guess we you know, we have
fun talking to her. She she keeps

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us in lying pretty much, and
we are we're always glad to have her

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on the show. So so Kelly
Peers. So it's a Jenny Dalton at

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three fifteen, Kelly Beers at four
or fifteen. So there you go.

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I'll fine, man, I'll fine. You know, it's funny. We

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were talking how how much stuff happened
while we were on on that break that

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we took, and you know,
it's kind of like you get to summer

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and you think, Okay, things
are going to die down. They're not

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gonna die down, especially with all
the stuff that's going on with UH with

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UH, with the TV deal and
stuff like that. But we don't have

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to stay on our toes on three. Yeah, right, right right?

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Did you hear any more fallout not
fall out or thoughts on president? Yeah?

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It's funny because you know, I
go to my That's Breakfast club that

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I work with Jesday morning, and
again I got it from both sides,

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right. I got a guy who
says, you know, God, I

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really hope we don't go to the
Big twelve. Hope as on the space

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here, I like, man,
I can't wait. I wish you would

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just go to the Big twelve right
now. And it's really weird, isn't

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don't you think though? Because I
know where you sit and I don't really

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care. I'm like Nico, and
Nico's like me, Um, it's a

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it's a win, it's a win. I don't know if it's a win

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win, it's a win, it's
a win if they go to the Big

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twelve. Is it a win if
they Yeah, because if they're not,

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if they don't wind up in a
crap pack twelve, that does nobody cares

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about, right, And if they
don't wind up in the Mountain West or

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the Whack, then we're good.
Okay, So say just saying that,

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that's all I need. Do they
stay? If they stay in the Pac

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twelve or ten, is that a
win? Yeah? Yeah, if everybody

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else stays, okay, so it's
a win win. Yeah. They look,

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the ten teams they've got left is
good. It's better if they get

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San Diego State. I don't know
how much better it is if they get

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SMU, but I do believe it's
it's a better league with San Diego States.

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There's more, you know, there'd
be some such California. They've got

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a great stadium. We love going
to San Diego. San Diego State has

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kind of always been arrival. I
mean, Steve, there was a time

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that Arizona played San Diego State in
the seventies when Arizona was still in the

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Whack. It was the biggest game
of the year. Sure an Arizona went

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out and beat them. And um
they uh, they were like Big West

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or something like that. But it
was a big deal because San die say,

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it was pretty good back at that
time. It still are and it

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was. It was. It was
like when Arizona played Texas Tech back in

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those days. Again, that was
a big deal for Arizona to go.

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It was a step up for Arizona
play Texas Tech. It was a step

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up back then. Parson play San
Diego State. Yeah, no, I

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don't disagree, and I think I
think I do. I think there'd be

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a great addition if they went back
eleven, if there were eleven teams,

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If they had eleven, I'd be
perfectly fine with that. In fact,

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if if they do stay in San
Diego States added, that's a game I

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want to go to. You know, I travel everywhere with the teams before.

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I don't as much now, but
I would make that trip every year

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for selfish, selfish reason. Maybe
even go to the basketball game sometimes.

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Yeah. No, right, have
you been? It's crazy. I haven't

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been. I haven't. Those those
student athletes, those students in the building

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are crazy. Yeah, I think
that. I think San Diego ST.

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Would be a great So if if
you've got what they've got. Now you're

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at San Diego State, I think, yeah, I think it's a it's

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a league that's worthy of discussion,
you know. And then then just start

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playing the games, you know,
go play some teams from the other conference

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to see how you do. Yeah, and and let let all that decide

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is it a good conference or not. The only thing that we're waiting on,

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right, there's the TV money,
right, and and that's a super

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second. It's a great TV that's
that's a sum it's a great TV deal.

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Okay, it's Tuesday, it was
Wednesday, nothing changed. But what

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the TV deal decides is whether or
not the league's sure. Sure, of

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course, that's the important TV deal. Not so much how much they're getting,

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because they're not going to get anywhere
close to compete with the Big ten

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and that SEC. That so to
sit there and say, well, you

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need a gain ground on him,
No, if you can be in the

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neighborhood of well, Big twelve and
the ACC, and that's how much money

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you're getting. You and you've got
your eleven teams, and you've got a

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spot in the College Football Playoff,
and you know, when you're still Arizona

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basketball, you're fine. Don't you
think that if a good deal had been

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available months ago, last week,
whatever, it would have already been done.

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Yeah. Now it's like, what
are you're gonna find where the cross

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is going to come from? That's
where a lot of the angst is coming.

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Yeah, you guys would have signed
on the dotted line a long time

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ago if you would have had something
worth signing on the product around with that.

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Definitely steve that. I mean,
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what they're looking for. So that's
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the question isn't do they say they
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I don't know what they see and
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or if they're you know, if
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the numbers, they've seen some numbers, sure, okay, So if they're

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Colorado has seen some numbers. If
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be gone. Right, they're not
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So the numbers are good enough for
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now, but they're obviously not good
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worked out yet for them to sign
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maybe there's maybe there's three or four
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I'm not signing that, and everybody
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hostage on whatever deal is going to
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and I know, it's not gonna
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and probably because of the situation of
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in the Pac twelve than others initially, but eventually that's where everybody eventually,

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that's right, even in five years
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it's already toime, Okay, that's
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and that's you know, it's gonna
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gotta figure out how you're going to
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We have Jenny Dalton Hill, ESPN softball

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analysts and former All American at D
How are you, Jenny, I'm doing

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great. Guys. How are you
tonight? We're doing fine. Thank you.

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I know you're a busy woman on
the road. What do you make

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of Oklahoma's dominance? I remember a
team back in the day when there was

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a lot of red and blue dominance. Yeah, I'm gonna say this Oklahoma

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team looks up reminds me a lot
of those teams back in that played their

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busson being able to win on the
games in a row and go on those

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win streaks and be able to be
national champions at the end of the year.

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So I'm guessing you saw them enough
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so good? Why? What's the
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it brings true to what coach Candrea
put together back in the nineties. That

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rockter that's extremely deep and able to
get through whether it's injury or just an

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off day. Also great coaching that
prepares the players for every situation that they

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may come to. And then just
a very consistent mindset that steps in with

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office to view every single day,
and they are one hundred percent prepared for

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everything that they come up against.
They've practiced at a high level and at

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a faster pace than the game.
So when they step in against like a

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Nigerie Kennedy at Stanford throwing seventy five
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them. Which is crazy to think
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still execute it at a high level. But Oklahoma is one of those teams

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that's prepared for anything that comes out
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the pitchers well as a player,
you destroyed them. In fact, what's

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going on with the pitching today.
If you don't haven't, you're not good.

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Well. I think what happened is
athletes across the country that they need

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to come into college and be senior
life. And more than any, coaches

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that are developing their players sometimes get
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player develops and continues to improve.
The hard hearted they choose to transfer rather

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than stay and ride the laurels of
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And so some coaches come up short
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to leave the program and actually other
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the country, everybody was surprised to
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or put her name in the portal
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season, her second in a row. And so I think across the country,

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athletes are starting to realize that maybe
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it's about mental health too, And
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portal to transfer out of the most
successful programs country. Right. No,

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and that's that's one of the interesting
issue that facing right now. You know,

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we had that we had to hear
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of the best players on the team, including the leadoff hitter, uh you

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know, went to UCLA of all
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the heck? And you think about
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But but yet still a team like
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and you know, with so many
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is how Mike Andrea and Arizona changed
softball, oh, you know, along

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with UCLA and made everybody get better. But then all and so everybody was

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better, and everybody's winning championships.
They were all over the place, and

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all of a sudden, Oklahoma just
rises above everybody else. How do you

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suppose that happens, that that one
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it all together. Do you think
about it? You look back to what

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coach Candrea was able to do Arizona
back in the nineties. That he was

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a very consistent approach, and because
we were so successful, we were getting

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great recruits. He was training us
to challenging us day in and day out.

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The hiccup that happened at Arizona was
coach Candrea ended up taking the Olympics

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position as a head coach, and
that took him away from the recruiting piece,

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which gave a ripple in that recruiting
tide, and that little ripple was

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enough for other teams to start stepping
up and challenging the Wildcats. I think

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it's going to come down at Oklahoma
to a ripple. What the ripple that's

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going to disrupt Oklahoma. With Oklahoma
and Patty Gasso getting near the end of

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her coaching career, that will cause
a ripple that change over, whether it's

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to her son JT. Gasso,
who was an assistant coach right now,

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or to some other amazing coach that
will take over that program. These teams

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across the country are looking for the
ripple or the little wrinkle that will allow

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them to sneak in and get the
next type. What a great observation,

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great obstation. I don't even think
about that. And everyone talks about the

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sec and the money they have,
and given your travels to these places,

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I'm assuming you've been to Arizona since
the new facility has been built. Do

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they still stand up to the other
other ones out in the country. Well,

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and if you think back when the
stadium was opened back in nineteen ninety

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three, it was a premier facility. No one else in the country has

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facility as good as Arizona. And
with the money that has been invested,

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not just in female sports, but
in Olympic sports across the country, you're

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seeing an elevation of not just facilities, but also the play that is being

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existed around the country. So when
you look at Arizona's facility now, is

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it a premier facility? You bet
it is. It definitely has been camped

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up with those inside spaces the covering
for the fans to get a little bit

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of shade and the Tucson heat.
And I'm so impressed with the way that

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the field looked up in the inaugural
Pact Weel Tournament. So looking a little

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a little, a little closer to
home. Since we talked about hlin Brand,

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you know, Arizona missed the tournament
for the first time in forever.

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Um you know, struggles with pitching
and some other things. But you know,

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when you see Arizona, where do
you think, can you say where

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the program is at? And you
know, not so much what's missing,

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but what do they have to do
to kind of regain sort of the foothold

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that they had out here. Well, there were just some missteps in conference,

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a struggle to tie winds together.
I think the pitching staff had a

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really difficult time this year of just
putting together quality hittings that led to quality

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games. The hitting was trying to
out hit some pitching mistakes. That's that's

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not trying to take anything from the
athletes that were playing the game. We've

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got high faulty athletes that were maybe
starting to lose some confidence as the game

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got harder and the season went off. So there's been some changes on the

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staff. You're bringing in a pitching
coach from LMU, You're bringing it a

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hitting coach from out here this side
of Mississippi. A fast Bloomer is a

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great hitting coach. He has a
great mind for the game. He prepares

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his teams well. I've known him
for tenter fifteen years. He was a

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high school coach. I live in
Kentucky. He was a high school coach

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here in Kentucky, and he was
He's been a travel ball coach forever.

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He coached at South Carolina, most
recently also at Duke and he's prepared his

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players very well offensively. And I'm
excited to see the way that he stepped

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into Tucson and is able to kind
of take over the rank that have maybe

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been a little bit loosely kept his
lem So let me ask you, I

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think I could correct me if I'm
wrong. You were part of the big

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streak, big streak that you had
that held on until this year. Yes,

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I was the last one, the
last one that we were able to

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hold on to it. And then
how how was seeing that good? Saying

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goodbye at one and two? Don't
you I'm a firm believer that this team,

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your team would have been able to
hold up against this Oklahoma team.

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I'm that the team of nineteen four
would have given Oklahoma run for its money,

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and I think that we would have
actually pulled out a championship against them.

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That team in nineteen ninety four hit
so many home runs, was confident

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in the circle, great solid defense. I mean there were there were no

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hold in our game in nineteen ninety
four. Maybe the better team was ninety

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five, but we lost UCLA the
championship games where that championship actually been descended

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because it's all violations by UCLA.
But more than anything, if you put

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Oklahoma two thousand and twenty three against
Arizona nineteen ninety four, toe to toe,

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I pick Arizona every time. Well
when you I just I just called

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up the roster. I'm looking at
that, I'm like, holy cow.

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I mean, just you know Susie
Parr, Nancy Evans, Laura Spinosa,

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Leo b I mean, the legends
obviously you uh you know, Amy Shelliville.

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Just the legends of Arizona softball from
that that period of time, and

405
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.240
the whole bunch of you bunch of
seniors and wow, you look at that

406
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.920
lineup. You go, how do
you not you know, how do you

407
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.759
not say, well, who you
could beat anybody? She talks about this

408
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.839
with you. She only had Tanya
Harding, who she faced her in the

409
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.039
in the championship game. And you're
right, I mean she was ineligible or

410
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.400
from Australia and they would have had
another one. How many did you win?

411
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.559
Three? Right? We won three? But if you if you actually

412
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.039
get Arizona the ninety five champions and
we worked five in a row. Yeah,

413
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.839
yeah, yeah, you don't who
to blame all this? Mike Kendrea.

414
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.480
No, I will never blame that
guy. He is the godfather of

415
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.640
softball. He is my favorite coach
ever in the history of the sport.

416
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.960
I would I would do anything for
that man. No, but I'm saying

417
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.000
he created this. Yeah, teams
are are like Arizona like back in the

418
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:23.000
day. Yeah, very much.
Funch to see him still involved into so

419
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.240
on, helping the athletics apartment and
kind of being eyes in this guy to

420
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:33.119
help these coaches. Navigator really curgulent
collegiate atmosphere. Well, what was the

421
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.599
first thing you said to him the
first time you talked to him after he

422
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.400
announced his retirement. What did you
say, like, what are you doing?

423
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.440
Or it's about time, or what
were your thoughts on that? The

424
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:53.079
crazy things about coaches retirement with I
was actually calling the super Regional that Arizona

425
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.839
was playing it. I caught wind
that this was probably going to be it

426
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:03.599
for coach Camprea, and more than
anything, it was an emotional moment for

427
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:10.400
me to think, how do I
call coaches last super Regional and give it

428
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.799
the credit that is due to honor
a man that means so much to me

429
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.319
and sent him off to the with
the College World Series in the right way.

430
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.519
And at the end of the game, he looked up at the booth

431
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.359
and I caught his eye and I
kind of like verbalize down to the field,

432
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.559
I want to come down there,
and he gave me the big hit.

433
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.920
I got to go on the field
with the team after the game and

434
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.000
just gave him a big hug and
let him know how proud of him I

435
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.839
will. Yeah, so you're looking
at almost thirty years ago. Sorry to

436
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.880
say that to Jenny, but but
the NIL has changed the game so much

437
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.400
and hear me, hear me out
for this because we've had a few of

438
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:52.000
the big time athletes here recently,
guist who want a couple of NCUBLE titles,

439
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.200
who he had, Delaney Citizennel who's
won a who's won a Golden medal

440
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.319
and ncuble titles, And they're not
seeing the NIL money like the guys in

441
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.640
the football team and the basketball team
of course, but we're thinking the women

442
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.240
softball players back in the day,
you guys would have crushed at one in

443
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:14.759
NIL. But even the minor sports
people are not getting the money. Well,

444
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:19.559
and I think it's that's a better
vocabulary on what's really going on across

445
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:27.720
the country. NIL gives players opportunities
to take money doing camps, clinics,

446
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:34.039
signing autographs, doing appearances. That's
NIL. That's getting paid for your names,

447
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:40.400
your image, and your likeness.
What we're seeking across the count is

448
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.599
paid to play right and take a
play is illegal. Back to me,

449
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.599
one of the biggest state of this
whole thing is it's being labeled NIL.

450
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.559
But that's truly not what NIL is. So if we look at what NIL

451
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:59.799
is, athletes have the opportunity to
take advantage of their team image and likeness

452
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.920
commercials or running clinics and camp,
selling apparel with their name and invitement.

453
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.880
But it's getting confused by the general
public by pay to play, which is,

454
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.640
hey, we'll give you fix thousand
dollars to come here, or we'll

455
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.359
give you one hundred thousand dollars,
or we've even seen players get a million

456
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:22.359
dollars to come and play. And
that is very different from the nail conversation.

457
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.440
And that's and that's a great clarification
because it has gotten mixed. Something

458
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.480
can Steve and I talk about it
like that, But you know, to

459
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.519
to I think out there, you're
correct. You know, nil to everybody

460
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.279
means just players getting money for whatever
reason, being hu all right, for

461
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.119
whatever reason. Uh, And that's
not what the intent was. And now

462
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:43.880
you've got you know, you got
college folks. And we just talked to

463
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.759
doctor Robbins yesterday wanting the federal government
to step in and take care of this,

464
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.839
and I'm like, what, why, why do we want to do

465
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.519
that? But it kind of made
sense when he sort of explained it.

466
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.599
But you know, what do you
see as the future for that and the

467
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:00.240
transfer portal? How that's changed the
game? Oh, what you're seeing is

468
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.640
where junior college players used to go
to junior college, whether it was the

469
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.079
clear ups at some academic issues or
just get them into a higher level.

470
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.640
Junior college players would go to junior
college for a year or two and then

471
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.400
transfer into the Division one ranks.
Now what you're seeing is players going to

472
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.519
the mid major label mid major level
and then doing the exact same thing,

473
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.880
but it leads those four year rules
high and dry. After developing these players

474
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.559
for two as they leave those programs
leave holes that are hard to fill,

475
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:40.079
and then they move on into a
top ten programs. That to me is

476
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.720
a travesty. I think that that
is going to kill our sport. It's

477
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:49.599
going to create superpowers that were never
meant to be. If you truly were

478
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.039
meant to play at the top ten, I wish that those schools would pick

479
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.799
you up then. But what we're
seeing is top ten programs are going in

480
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:04.759
and are picking some of those e
LaDue level athletes that have developed at the

481
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:09.000
mid major level and bringing them to
their programs to push their agenda. But

482
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:14.239
the problem is what that does is
is devastating the programs that they leave.

483
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.280
All right, No, we talked
about this last week. The rest of

484
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:22.679
the small schools are the Oregon donors
of the bigger school exactly. Yeah,

485
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.679
and you thought hurt Arizona stuftball this
last year as two players departed at the

486
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:32.679
UCA and how as two fun player
how Arizona Wildcat leaves and wears brue and

487
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.039
blue and gold. I have no
idea because that one hurts my heart.

488
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.039
Right, Jenny, thank you very
much. Great stuff, great stuff,

489
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.519
Thank you, thank you guys.
All right, Well, Jenny Dalton Hill

490
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.280
with some great information. I love. I loved she's on the spot with

491
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.199
the NIL stuff. Yeah, where
it's it's it's totally doing what it's not

492
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.320
supposed to be doing. Right,
we've lost track, as we said,

493
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.440
of what it's supposed to be.
NIL has become just players get money,

494
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.840
whereas as she said, the intent
was for players to go out and figure

495
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.360
out a way make some money with
their name, image and likeness. For

496
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.000
now they're making money because of who
they are. All right, let's take

497
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.679
our breakwhen and come back, we'll
talk more about some of that stuff and

498
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:24.280
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545
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Steve Rover, he's checking Ollas so
good to touch to Jenny, great insight

546
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.960
on a few things, you know, I would I went back and look

547
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:55.920
at the record of that of that
team, made a big deal and as

548
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:02.480
right and solved the sever that got
to be Oklahoma won sixty one and one.

549
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.840
Well, that uh ninety four Arizona
stotball team won sixty four and three.

550
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.360
Who did twost They lost to Resno
State. Who's who's good at the

551
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.840
time. I remember that UNLVKA and
Washington and they won the they won the

552
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.480
they won twenty three and one in
the conference. That's with you know,

553
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.840
some good, really good teams that
you know, even back then UCLA was

554
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.360
you know, four, sixteen and
six, but they won twenty one,

555
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.719
twenty three and one in the league
in the league, sixty four and three,

556
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.199
swept through the College Rolls Series without
claffs, without losing the game.

557
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.360
But again, look at the names. Susie Para, here's the whole roster.

558
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:44.000
Susie park Carry Dolan, Leah O'Brien, Nancy Evans, Susie Duarte A,

559
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.559
Michelle vol Jennie Dalton, Laura Spinoza, Valerie Sepea, Christo Gomez,

560
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:52.000
Andrea Dode, Brandy Shiver, Michelle
Martinez, and Leah Brons. I mean,

561
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.800
how many of those names do you
just know of the tip of your

562
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.400
time, most of them from talking
about Arizona emotional and the legend that they

563
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.360
they built that was and that was
already the machine had already started right well,

564
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.119
the year before that, the year
before ninety three, um, they

565
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.599
won a nationally they won the national
championship for a middling forty four and eight,

566
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.639
and then they go sixty four and
three. Then the year that she

567
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.639
was talking about where they lost in
the championship cheating bruins, they won sixty

568
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.159
six and six. Yeah, so
yeah, you know, Anthony and Anthony

569
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.880
and I always talked about that because
we were both there when he won his

570
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.719
first one in ninety one, I
think it was ninety one. With that,

571
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.440
you know, it was kind of
like a group of girls women who

572
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.840
were just kind of they're playing really
well together. Back then, it was

573
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:43.119
a small ball, small ball moving
across, get on somebody over the game

574
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.719
of change or was that's what the
game was. But you know, the

575
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.320
next year, the last year Jenny
Dalton, Senior year they won fifty eight

576
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:55.000
nine one, another national championship,
and um did not win the league.

577
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:00.000
So you know, great, Uh
initially Washington won league. Okay, so

578
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.079
crazy, I don't remember that,
but okay, unbelievable. Unbelievable, no,

579
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.079
fantastic. And the game has changed
so much since then. Well it's

580
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.199
kind of reverted back to them because
they used to crush it. Jenny crushed

581
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.360
it. Loris Panosa crushed it.
All these home run hitters, Yeah,

582
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:19.239
knock in the day. But that's
the problem. That's that they're having the

583
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.920
gap between in the pitching and his
white You know, either you have it

584
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.119
or you don't. There's kind of
like nothing in between. Sure, you

585
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.480
have the staff that can get you
through. Either you've got the great picture

586
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.239
or you don't have the great pitch. No, it'll be interesting to see

587
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.159
a friends with Oklahoma, Right,
they lose their best picture and they thought

588
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.519
who was gonna be around next year
and help them win another national championship.

589
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:45.000
Let's don't cry for Virginia, don't
cry for Argentina. Oklahoma we find But

590
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.400
so that's Arizona's had some players,
right, They have some pretty good players.

591
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.679
They just didn't have that pitching.
So we'll see. You know,

592
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.199
they've got two freshman pitchers coming in, so we'll see if if they're actually

593
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.400
that good and can pitch at the
college level right away. Kind of hard

594
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.280
to do, um, you know, and you know, it was like

595
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:06.719
we were talking with Dandy Lopez last
week. There's there's players in college you're

596
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.639
twenty four years old. You know, you're an eighteen year old freshman.

597
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:15.239
You're playing against somebody six maybe seven
years older than you. Wasn't um,

598
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.159
I think we saw there's a college
basketball player it's gonna be twenty seven years

599
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.800
old. Yeah, and it's not
named Jordan Brown, and it's not Jordan

600
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.760
Brown or who's the other one,
Baker? Yeah, uh no, that's

601
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.639
not it. That's what makes college
basketball freshman as good as they are,

602
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.320
how special they are, because they're
coming on as eighteen year old Boswell seventeen

603
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.440
Boswell who has this performance and is
unshakable and has this very consistent year against

604
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.519
the grown men that he's playing against
or the older guys that he's playing against.

605
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.079
Once again, you know, seventeen
years old, what were you doing

606
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.639
at seventeen? I was still going
to like roller skating. You're getting in

607
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:58.480
trouble with your dad. Actually I
was getting I was getting in trouble and

608
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.280
my dad not knowing it. Right. But your brother's probably a different day.

609
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.559
Probably brothers, that's for a different
day. Okay, anybody want to

610
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.400
call. We have about nine minutes, ten minutes five two o four one

611
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:13.280
six seventy four forty we'd like your
call. If you haven't called before,

612
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.320
just give us a quick call.
Uh, let us know how we're doing.

613
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.119
Uh, you're Denver Nuggets, right, did you see the yo kits?

614
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.480
And they asked him, you know, are you gonna are you excited

615
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.400
for the parade? And oh you
missed that? No, I just got

616
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.679
the end. We say it's over
this goal. Yeah. No, Well,

617
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.719
you know, you know in the
press conference he was asking you are

618
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.519
you are you excited about, you
know, the parade? He said,

619
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.480
well when is the parade and they
said Thursday, and he said nope.

620
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:44.679
He wants to wait a minute.
Why are you not excited about about the

621
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:45.840
parade? He said, because I
want to go home. He wants to

622
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:47.639
go home. Yeah, I go
home. I want to be with my

623
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.119
family, that's my horses. And
I think he's actually not gonna go to

624
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.360
the purse. That's very funny because
when you heard him at the end of

625
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.119
the game, right, yeah,
well, how do you feel? It's

626
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.920
good fun We're done. Let's get
out of here, let's get out of

627
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:02.559
you. The job is done.
It's funny, though, Jay, it's

628
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.639
how it's how it is. You
know how it is back in eighty eight

629
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.400
or whatever. And I use that
because you've been to it. But when

630
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.159
Arizona and it's every day, it's
every day for six months, and you

631
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.599
get to this, it's every day. You're writing every day, you're doing

632
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.960
these things every day, you're trying
to find stories. And after six months

633
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:22.320
and after the ninety seven year,
they win it. And then you kind

634
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.880
of hit a wall and you're thinking, what now, because you've been doing

635
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.679
it every day, and then it's
then it's over. You said, God,

636
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.719
can I just breathe now? Be
left alone for a while and all

637
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.559
that, and that's what they're going
through. It's it's a long process.

638
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.519
And we're not We weren't even players, right, right, we were players

639
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.880
having to go to practice there.
Well, we did go to practice every

640
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.639
day, but we didn't have to. We weren't running, right, We

641
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.199
weren't running and we didn't have to
practice, but you know we were at

642
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.079
practice. But you know, I
mean, I I dam't told this very

643
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.639
million times. Flying on the plane
on my way home from Kansas City after

644
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.440
the eight eight Final four. I
mean, I'm on the way home and

645
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.320
already you that the Diamondbacks are I
mean, the Cardinals were coming to town.

646
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.840
Um, you know that the football
job is gonna be up, and

647
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:08.599
Dak McGruder was gonna go up to
Phoenix. He was going to cover the

648
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.280
car right, you knew. On
the plane on the way home, I

649
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.880
said, I'm getting out of basketball. Yeah. I hadn't even landed and

650
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.440
I said, I'm getting out of
basketball. I can't totally get it,

651
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.000
totally get it. It's a constant, it's a constant um. I remember,

652
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.599
just experience it real quick. I
went to the Olympics to cover the

653
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.599
Olympics for the USA Today and stuff. And it was a month long of

654
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.039
intense work every day and I'm going
through halfway of it in Australia, and

655
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.199
then increase, I'm thinking, I
don't do this anymore. I don't not

656
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.159
the sportsman. I just don't want
to do this anymore. Two weeks in

657
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.639
and it's Climber's remorse. You kind
of know what Climber's remorse is. You're

658
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.599
going halfway through and I'm never gonna
do this, and then you get to

659
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.800
the top and you think, God, I can't wait to do it again.

660
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.760
But you have to breathe first.
You have to breathe and relax first.

661
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.960
And I hope that you get time
to do it, because it's crazy.

662
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.119
I finding that. I was listening
on the Dan Patrick Show this morning.

663
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:07.039
They did a they did a poll
asking about Nick about Yokitchen his reaction

664
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.360
to winning the championship and just kind
of like they saying, you know,

665
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:16.400
do you think that's great or you
think it's sad? And of course it

666
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.559
was like to me, you know
what it was like to me in a

667
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.960
different sense. It was the youngest
quote about we lost, it's not the

668
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.679
end of the world, We'll move
on or what. Remember that great speech?

669
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.239
Yeah, it was. It was
from the heart. And guess what

670
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.880
two international players saying this, not
American saying right. So it's a different

671
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.480
perspective, right, And they grew
up differently with their sport, you know,

672
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.920
they they didn't grow up probably they
probably didn't grow up with fans like

673
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.440
we have here, you know,
wanting to set their houses on fire when

674
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.960
they lose a game. True,
we saw it up in Denver, right,

675
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.280
but ten people shotting the riots in
downtown. I didn't see that.

676
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.840
But I did see a video of
Aaron Gordon going out into the street with

677
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.639
no shirt on and he's jumping around
with like, dude, you're gonna get

678
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.119
hurt. And then I didn't realize. This is kind of how I didn't

679
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.599
realize this. But uh, yokitch
was a second round pick, late into

680
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.519
the second round. Well, yeah, they make about forty He got draft,

681
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:22.639
he got drafted. When his pick
was made, the NBA draft was

682
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:27.239
at a Wendy's commercial, his name
just came across that he had been drafted.

683
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.639
I didn't see that. Yeah,
that's again one of the storylines that

684
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.280
here's the guy who's a couple of
you know, uh MVPs, he's won

685
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.159
a championship. Now that when he
got picked, he was so it was

686
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:45.039
such a nondescript pick that the program
was at a commercial, at a Wendy's

687
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.119
commercial when his pick was made.
So funny. It's like it reminds me

688
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.559
of a few years ago, somebody
from from from my home state caused me

689
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.719
says, how come, how come
Arizona didn't recruit Curry? This is like

690
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.280
fifteen years ago or whatever it is. Well, the same reason why you

691
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.320
mixtually didn't recruit him. He wasn't
that good at the time, although he

692
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.760
was very good. He went to
Davidson. These guys turned themselves into superstars,

693
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.239
and he had that run in the
NCAA tournament. Think Elite eight right

694
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:13.480
at Davidson, and all of a
sudden people saw Steph Curry. It's like,

695
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.679
oh, where did this guy come
from? Well, he's been there

696
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.079
the whole time. You just didn't
know this same group, right, same

697
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.960
group. They're all back, right, they're all back, and they're top

698
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:28.480
ten team. I saw them as
high as sixths. And that's the same

699
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.239
reason why Denver snuck up on everybody. No one saw them or paid attention

700
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.039
to them because they're not in the
market you want to pay attention to.

701
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.239
So after all of the as we
talked about yesterday, after all of the

702
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.960
nobody was picking the Denver to win
the thing right up until the finals.

703
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:45.239
Then they thought, okay, now
that they're gonna beat the Heat. But

704
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.400
they were the underdog in every series
up to that point, well not the

705
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.280
first one, but you know,
once they got to you know, the

706
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:59.039
sons of the Lakers and so on, now the favorite to win the league,

707
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:00.840
and I bet against them. But
there's also gonna be a lot of

708
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.480
good teams out there as well.
Yeah, and people are gonna change their

709
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.480
stuff around. But but but if
you want to get them now, I

710
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:12.519
would get them now because we're five
to one, five to one whatever,

711
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.960
because you ain't gonna get a better
price than that. He guess it.

712
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.639
Okay, guess who's the next team
in the West? Is that? Because

713
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.360
you got the Nuggets, then you
got the Celtics, could be Lakers,

714
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:29.000
could be Lakers. No, you're
gonna Phoenix. Oh no, there's no

715
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.079
way, just no way, your
Phoenix fifty. Oh no, we're the

716
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:37.719
Golden sit a whole year with Kevin
Durant. That is happening. But ye

717
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.000
are there too many that roster has
to be unknown? Right yeah, with

718
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:46.480
with Chris Paul, I would not
put a dime on them fifty who's next?

719
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.159
And then the Warriors at ten twelve? Right right there? Put your

720
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.440
money there, Lakers also because I
think that the Warriors, if if that

721
00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:00.079
the worst they figure out their internal
problems, problem problems, or that that

722
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.159
could they could return again because they're
pretty good. They said, they admitted

723
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.960
the whole prap. Almost. Yeah, if what's the name could have right,

724
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.880
he made a preseason or whatever exactly, they would have been okay.

725
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.239
But you know how that is.
It's like a bad marriage or a bad

726
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.039
family. You got to fix those
things first. You think, I don't

727
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.119
know, I don't know, I
don't know, I don't I don't know

728
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.599
why. He's got a lot of
money, But they can find a player

729
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:31.039
like him somewhere up. They're still
pretty good. They're still pretty good.

730
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:36.239
They're fun to watch for sure.
That watch, you know, and you

731
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:40.880
feel like you feel like Clay Thompson
with another year and this time you know

732
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.440
this time of Yeah, they're still
kind of the same two. He's just

733
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.800
gonna find a couple of players,
a couple of big pieces. So you've

734
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.159
got Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks,
Sons, Bucks are good too, Warriors

735
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:59.400
and Lakers. That's saying seventy six
ers at thirteen what the Bucks? Huh?

736
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:07.000
Bucks are at six fifty's and that's
a good two. New coach they

737
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.280
got beat in the first round,
not to play for. Um, you

738
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.199
got the Clippers at seventeen hundred,
Maverick at sixteen, Clippers at seventeen heat

739
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:21.159
at two thousand, they were they
I think they were two fifty before the

740
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:27.079
season, two fifty the Heat were
Yeah to begin the year, two fifty

741
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:34.199
unbelievable. And then um, Grizzlies, Calves, Alicans. Yeah, Grizzlies

742
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:39.960
are done because Marandi who knows who? Yeah, So we'll see. Okay,

743
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.559
good first hour, good, good
stuff on Jenny appreciate Jenny Dalton.

744
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.480
Jenny Daltons. Yeah, correct,
you got three kids? Yeah, well

745
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.119
my SMI ex used to baby sit
the oldest a long time ago. All

746
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.719
right, you got twenty six years
ago. Think you got a big family.

747
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.199
Looking on her Twitter page, he
looks like a couple of them were

748
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.920
married. So oh well, because
there's some there's there's more than three kids

749
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.559
in the picture, and there's some
people that are looking at there might be

750
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.679
some marriages in there. So all
right, let's go take our break.

751
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.440
We'll be back. We've got Kelly
Pearce coming here to talk about FC two

752
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:17.039
song women at at four fifteen and
breaking news at the top of the hour.

753
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:17.719
We'll grab back