1 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,519 We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Jasinski, 2 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:23,120 culture editor here at The Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,760 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on Twitter at fdr lst 4 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:31,399 mixture, subscribe wherever you download your podcast into the premium version of our site 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:38,280 as well. Long awaited return of Christopher Bedford right now he has rum. 6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,679 It is not yet afternoon time, and he's back from his honeymoon. Chris, 7 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,399 I'm relaxed, I'm easy, I'm feeling good, well sunned. He 8 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,399 had a jaunt across Italy, and I think it is having a hard time 9 00:00:52,479 --> 00:01:00,000 letting go of the vacation because again, he just poured a glass of rum. 10 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,599 I do have to shake some habits. Um. I was working really 11 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,519 hard to get in good shape for the wedding, and when I can, 12 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:10,599 I accomplish it. And then when I not, not my way I want 13 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:12,400 to be, but much better than I was when I got engaged. And 14 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:17,040 by the time I got back, I was like walking at the door to 15 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:21,079 dinner and one of my shirts didn't fit. Interesting because one of the things 16 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:26,799 I've heard it's employmentally, but one of the things people say, I haven't 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,519 spent a time of time in the Europe at all, but one of the 18 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:32,400 things people say when they come back is that they actually feel like they ate 19 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:34,640 a lot, but they feel better and they feel like they've lost weight because 20 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,319 the food isn't as chalk full of chemicals and processing. It isn't and you 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,000 like you don't, you don't feel you don't get sleepy and feel bad after 22 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,719 eating a plate of pasta there, which is very different from experiencing in America. 23 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,519 But most of those people probably aren't ordering between two people, you know, 24 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:59,640 three antipastas, two pastas, a secunde, a bottle of wine, 25 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:05,760 and two j just divos at lunch. Yeah, Dinna saying I like, 26 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:08,759 I like you took a brief pause and then added at lunch. But I 27 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:15,560 mean we're also walked because I hate cabs and they're also hard to get in 28 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,759 Rome. But at least it was hard for me. Someone else is going 29 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,159 to write it and like you idiot there everywhere we walked like five miles a 30 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,840 day to the point yet my my legs are still still killing me. Old 31 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,840 man, oh man, old man, Well, Chris, congratulations on your 32 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,360 wedding. Are you glad you had it took good time on your honeymoon. 33 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:37,840 Um. The other thing I would add is Chris and his now wife Sarah 34 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,039 are both really into cooking and really into food. You said, actually, 35 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,240 you think Sarah's favorite meal of the entire trip was in Umbria wild boar raised 36 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,719 wild boar. Yeah, and just we pulled into this medieval town, Spoletto. 37 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:53,240 Almost all the towns in Umbria are medieval like. They're really still within 38 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:58,719 the walls of the old fortresses. And it's amazing a bunch of Italy, 39 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 you know, as much as they seem like they don't have their stuff together 40 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:07,840 nowadays, for a thousand years they were just warried city states, and most 41 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:09,479 of the towns still like show that. You can see the walls and their 42 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:15,080 churches inside. It was brave as wild boar was one of her favorites, 43 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,439 and that was the kind of the food of the countryside. And we stayed 44 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,520 out. There was a lot more meaty, a lot of mushrooms, a 45 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,800 lot of truffles. We got pigeon at one place, which was better than 46 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:27,800 quail. Really, I really loved it. It was phenomenal. We can 47 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,840 guse some pigeon out in the street here in Capitol Hill. I wouldn't eat 48 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,360 a DC pigeon. I don't think. I don't think they've been they've had 49 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,960 the proper diet. Yeah, but you know the Riley family every Thanksgiving they 50 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:46,039 fry pigeons appetizers. Your friend Sean Riley, who's over at the American Conservative 51 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:50,840 They hunt them off their farm in Delaware and eat pigeons. That's some American 52 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:57,960 conservatism right there. Instead of raw egg nationalism, it's pigeon frying conservatism. 53 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,800 The original art of cooking had had a recipe for pigeon. Interesting. Yeah, 54 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:09,719 most of the country was not eating like subway pigeons. The town where 55 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:14,120 I grew up in Wisconsin does an annual raccoon feed where they cook up a 56 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:15,879 bunch of raccoons. Raccoon Oh yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, 57 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:19,639 I wouldn't eat DC raccoon suf No, again, not the proper dyet. 58 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:26,199 Garbage pandas well, speaking of garbage pandas speaking of the filth that has come 59 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,959 to dominate America's cities. Once again, there's a war simmering. We wanted 60 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:36,680 to talk about Chris because you resentally moved out of the district and we've talked 61 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,800 about this bit of a few times over the last couple of years. It's 62 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,240 really sad, not just what's happening to DC. I'm sure people around the 63 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,399 country have experienced it in their cities as well. Chris is having trouble with 64 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:51,079 the mic stand but I think you dropping, I know, you have to 65 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:54,720 tighten the knob. Yeah, ain't too much in Italy. It can't hold 66 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,839 us it up. But Eric Adams is engaged in feud right now with Joe 67 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:04,920 Biden here in the district. There was a congressional here and basically JD. 68 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Vans and some of the Republican senators. I'm just sitting here wondering if you're 69 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,160 gonna if the filth that has come to take over our cities is going to 70 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,480 be the crime or the immigrants to see where you where. No, no, 71 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,279 no, no. That's what got Tucker in trouble. He said that 72 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,240 they're making American dirty er yeah, dirty. Yeah. He got in some 73 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,040 trouble for that. He definitely got in trouble, that's what That was one 74 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,399 of the ones that catalyzed all the advertiser boycotts, like one of the original 75 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,480 when he took that primetime slot that catalyzed a lot of the original corporate advertising 76 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:42,680 that illegal immigrant slitter how dere he well I was talking about. I mean, 77 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:47,439 so there is It is true that part of the feud between some of 78 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:58,639 the Blue cities and um the Biden administration and Republicans is because of the Greg 79 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,079 Abbott decision and the run Santa's decision. And I think Doug Doocey did this 80 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:09,879 in Arizona as well, to send migrants illegal immigrants. In most cases, 81 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,319 some of them probably have valid asylum claims, but that's a minority of this 82 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:19,160 massive influx of people. These are these are young men. So but I 83 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:24,839 think the broader theme here is a breakdown of I don't want to say law 84 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,600 and order, but I would just say order. It's just outright chaos in 85 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,360 New York City. Texas is not a sanctuary state. Texas doesn't want one 86 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:38,759 hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants pouring over its border. I think there are 87 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,240 sanctuary cities in Texas. There are sanctuary cities like Austin, I think, 88 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,759 but they're not a sanctuary state. And these immigrants are poored over whether they 89 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:53,040 get lectured by these northern mayors and they said, you know what, you're 90 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:57,879 a sanctuary state. A city. New York has literally said that has been 91 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,279 fighting. I'm not sure if it ever passed to give it legal are going 92 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,399 to the right to vote. They basically made them citizens, so take them 93 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,480 right and they can't handle. I mean, that's the thing about New York 94 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,839 is New York's services are always strained. I mean, mayors lose election for 95 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:17,680 not being able to plow the streets properly. That's why during COVID when everyone 96 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,240 was like, oh my gosh, the hospitals are completely overrun. It's like 97 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:25,279 with New York City, the emergency rooms are a capacity on a Tuesday. 98 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,000 It's it's just a very busy city. It's a lot of humans, and 99 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:32,079 they sending these illegal immigrants here at a significantly smaller portion that are coming over 100 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,240 the southern border has completely overwhelmed them. Eric Addams, who made this rule 101 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:42,160 as a sanctuary now it doesn't like it well. And he's openly critical of 102 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:46,439 Joe Biden. And he's got county commissioners Republicans and the suburbs, and he 103 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,319 started shipping them to these Republican counties of the suburbs, and those Republicans like 104 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,319 those citizens, like, what the hell are you doing? Absolutely not. 105 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 This is not our problem. This is your problem, and it's causing this 106 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,879 all this squabbling, and they've turned on It's funny he's turned on Joe Biden. 107 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Now Joe, he's not really turned on him. He's been somewhat critical 108 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,319 Biden's completely failed policy. So they kicked him off of the reelection team. 109 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:16,959 Yes, I mean, a young, probably rising black politician and mayor of 110 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,120 New York City kicked off of Joe Biden's re election team. It's kind of 111 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,519 wild. So yeah, this is from Axios, just this one. I 112 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:28,759 wondered if you were reading something or just taking a picture of me. Nobody 113 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:35,879 needs that. Yeah, I was documenting her rum infused podcasting. Oh no, 114 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,600 yeah, now I have to sneeze. I'm allergic to Christmas bad jokes. 115 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:45,799 Is there another one coming? Maybe you only get one? Bless you, 116 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:50,960 bless you? That was it. You keep making bad jokes. I'm 117 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,759 gonna keep sneezing. The allergy is very real. But this is from from 118 00:08:54,759 --> 00:09:01,200 Anic Plague. You know, um how they phrase It's kind of funny. 119 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,080 New York Eric Adams, the highest profile back black mayor in the country has 120 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,399 gotten so crosswise with the White House that he was dropped from Biden's twenty twenty 121 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,519 four campaign advisory board before it was announced last week. Eric Adams, they 122 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,960 say it reflects a new loan relations between Biden and the mayor, who was 123 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,600 set to be a key surrogate in the campaign. So I think one big 124 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:22,960 takeaway from that is this speaks to a war going on, not within the 125 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,399 Democratic Party, you know, the tug of war that always exists between the 126 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,200 activist base, this refringe activist base, and the kind of normy wing of 127 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,639 the party. This is a war within the Democratic Parties, like so called 128 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,879 mainstream wing between Joe Biden, Eric Adams, both figures who have been I 129 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:46,080 think swayed and seduced by the radicals in their own party in different directions, 130 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,279 who have been pulled by those activists that have worked their way into very high 131 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,639 positions in corporate media, in the corporate world in general, the kinds of 132 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:01,159 people who fueled what we saw happen twenty twenty. You can look at that 133 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:07,039 on their policies on these so called gender identity, their policies on crime um. 134 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,919 You know, Eric Adams obviously has moved towards like involuntary committing, et 135 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:18,559 Cetera's a long time police officer who has tried it, was trying to address 136 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,879 these very real problems, but also still faces these kind of new ideological hurdles, 137 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:31,639 and the Biden administration is unwilling to get over that ideological hurdle. Well, 138 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:33,679 that's the thing when it comes to when it comes to a legal immigration, 139 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,480 when it comes to the border, it's utterly absurd because all it does 140 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,360 for like, let's just make let's take their argument of open border to theological 141 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,919 conclusion or asylum to its logical conclusion um, and like give them let's say 142 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:54,480 we give them that argument hypothetically, they're endangering so many people's lives and emboldening 143 00:10:54,799 --> 00:11:00,879 cartels with their open borders policies. Period, They're putting so many people's lives 144 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,320 in danger. People are dying because of this, they're suffering because of this. 145 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:09,000 Is completely inhumane. So even on their own, by their own logic, 146 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:13,600 with their own argument, this all fails. It's just fully stupid town 147 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Like it's completely nuts. But it's just I mean, it's political mismanagement. 148 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,399 It reminds me of the conversation we had about how badly they bungled the East 149 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Palatine disaster, which should have been a slam dunk for Democrats, combining infrastructure, 150 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,639 pollution regulation like all of their favorite things. But they couldn't do it 151 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,879 because they're they're they're too stupid. And I also think that there's there's there's 152 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:41,639 aspects of them that just really don't like poor white Republicans there with Adams. 153 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,600 I mean, this surrounds me of something that maybe, like twenty three year 154 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:46,879 old me would have thought. I remember saying to a friend in an argument 155 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:52,919 of the bar about a liberal Republican who was who had lost the back end 156 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,000 of the GOP over a stance on guns. And my friend, who was 157 00:11:56,039 --> 00:12:00,639 much more moderate than I am, was saying, Hey, you need an 158 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,799 ally who cares, and I was saying, if you don't write on guns, 159 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,399 then what use are you. We're kind of Republican even, are you. 160 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:09,600 This is this is a simplistic argument of a young guy. Uh, 161 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,240 there's there's no point to you, Like you might as well be a Democrat. 162 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Just get rid of him, like Eric Adams would have done his job, 163 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,480 I'm almost certain of it. Maybe not, but very likely would have 164 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,480 done his job if the Biden administer, why why would they kick him off 165 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,960 the team when I have private disagreements and ask him to stump for you? 166 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:30,679 What's he gonna stump for Donald Trump or Ronda Santus. I don't think so. 167 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,600 But this is like political miscalculation. But maybe it's worse. I mean, 168 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,039 what, you know, how when we used to have the presidential of 169 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,279 the photographs back in like a normal time, but I'll like former presidents to 170 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,639 hang out together and there'd be pictures of like Bill Clinton, George W. 171 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:50,519 Bush, Jimmy Carter altogether H W. Bush And how Jimmy Carter never stood 172 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:56,600 near Bill Clinton did famously ice relationship really didn't like each other. That goes 173 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,960 back to when Clinton was governor of Arkansas and Jimmy Carter started shifting shipping refugees 174 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,600 to Arkansas. I can't remember where they're refugees from. And they put them 175 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,559 in a penitentiary to hold them, and there was a massive riot, including 176 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,879 people dying, and it was extremely unpopular with Arkansas. And Bill Clinton was 177 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:18,559 like, what are you doing to me? What you why are you sending 178 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,360 what you're putting right prison riots in my state? Don't you understand that I'm 179 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:26,960 like, I'm an a tenuous political position here, and it nearly derailed Bill 180 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Clinton's young political life and he never forgave him and he was openly critical of 181 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:37,320 Carter over it, and Carter didn't like that, and they literally Carter will 182 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,480 go to his grave not liking Bill Clinton and probably vice versa over that kind 183 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,720 of thing. So maybe there's something more to it. And I'm wondering who 184 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:48,399 leaked it taxios. I mean, did Eric Adams's team have receipts, like 185 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,840 the invitation is withdrawn, because they would take receipts to show that they can't 186 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:56,840 just be like this council that hasn't been formed. I'm not on it, 187 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,720 but I was supposed to be on it, ordered by this team do it. 188 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,519 And you know, it's it's interesting that that's insane. I think it's 189 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:09,000 interesting to see this through the lens of the war inside the mainstream wing of 190 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,960 the Democratic Party, because in Congress this week they hauled and I think for 191 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,240 really good reason. Right Like, we talk about DC not just because we 192 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,000 live here, but because it's the federal city. It represents our government, 193 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,639 it represents our culture, it represents our society, and it's doing. Gosh, 194 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:26,759 I hope it doesn't represent our culture and society. It absolutely represents our 195 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:31,240 culture and society in both the sense that it's supposed to and the sense that 196 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,559 it actually really does for all of its flaws right now, Like all of 197 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,759 the faults that we see on the streets of DC right now are reflective of 198 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:43,159 cultural failures in the United States. So I think, as sad as it 199 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,320 is, it does represent those problems ways. I mean, you get more 200 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,159 of American culture driving to the country an hour outside of DC. An indirection, 201 00:14:50,159 --> 00:14:52,480 any direction is a better You know, a lot of people live in 202 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:56,559 America's cities, and they are responsible for the poor governance of those cities. 203 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,639 Sadly enough, it's in the last nine in the last seventy two hours in 204 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,639 d See, I think a ten year old was fatally shot while driving with 205 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,639 their parents in their car. Yeah about a straight bullet. I think a 206 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,240 twelve year old was grazed by a bullet, was sleeping in their bed. 207 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:16,519 A seventeen year old, just basically an adult was shot to death in front 208 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:20,919 of Roosevelt High School. I think there have been five carjackings in my little 209 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:28,200 neighborhood where where I used to live and sew in a house. It's absolutely 210 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,720 wild. I meanwhile, we have traffick cameras everywhere as the mayor launches her 211 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:37,240 project zero for Zero Deaths and traffic Accidents, which really just means a lot 212 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:43,360 of revenue for tickets initiative. Well, the murder rates skyrockets. It's really 213 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:46,639 sad. And every time I come back to the city. I tell you 214 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,399 what I Aside from the steakhouses, I truly don't miss it, like at 215 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:52,080 all, the steakhouse Hill. I used to walk around Capitol Hill, and 216 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 this is where I want to live forever. I'd like to have a house 217 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,279 here and maybe like a little place I can get away too, on the 218 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:02,600 shore, like an eastern shore or something as like my retirement goals. I 219 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,240 don't. I don't like being here anymore, even even in the nice parts 220 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,120 of Capitol Hill. And I was, I know, I was on kind 221 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,759 of like the works Drift part of Capitol Hill. But this, uh, 222 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:17,200 these nice parts even are getting crazy. The Peabody, Uh, the elementary 223 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,200 school that my stepson was enrolled in, awful place, absolutely evil place. 224 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,000 But it's supposed to like the top school on Capitol Hill. It's public and 225 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:29,000 there's a lottery system, and people, rich white women who are extremely liberal, 226 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,639 by the way, hire high paid consultants to get their children in there 227 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:37,120 for like the local minorities. There was a police incident involving a homeless person 228 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:38,240 in front of there. The kids were frightened. We're not allowed to go 229 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,080 into school. There was tape that the school wouldn't even tell them what was 230 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,159 going on. It's on Lincoln Park. Yeah, it's absolutely wild. There's 231 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:49,720 always been some trouble, Like I remember one of Mike Lee's staffers got mugged 232 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,440 for all the office laptops in Lincoln Park, like ten years ago. But 233 00:16:55,399 --> 00:17:00,600 it's gotten significantly worse. And the voters in Philadelphia just put in a an 234 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,799 a mayor who's in favor of stopping frisk, and like didn't like run. 235 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:07,160 I'm like, I'm gonna be tough on crime. And then institute is stopping 236 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,960 frisk, which is like a super controversial policy for whatever reason. But it 237 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:12,559 ran on that you think the primary, right, It was on the prime 238 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Yeah, which is the election. Yeah, the Democratic nominee. But then 239 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,000 I am ruting Aunty I will stop and frisk teenagers platform, Yes, but 240 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:25,440 This is why I think it's important because then in Jacksonville, the one like 241 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:30,240 major American city that had a Republican mayor, I'm endorsed by de Santis just 242 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,799 lost to a Democrat. Chicago just elected to send us through in that endorsement 243 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:40,359 too, I don't know. I mean, you would want way ahead of 244 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,680 her, keep a Republican mayor In one of your biggest primary it was Trump 245 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Trump candidate versus Oh you're talking about then that was like way ahead in the 246 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,079 polling. I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's got involved in that. 247 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,599 And then you look at you know, you can look at the pivot 248 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:57,720 from London breed in San Francisco. You can look at New York going from 249 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:03,240 de Blasio to Adams. Then you can look at Chicago going with Brandon Johnson. 250 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:06,920 The explicitly anti lawn or your candidate is. I think it's tribal. 251 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,160 It's like super tribal for especially I mean the choice in Philadelphia. Maybe to 252 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,720 an outsiders like trying to really think about it, it's like a law and 253 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:18,160 order candidate versus not a liberal a lot of out candidate, or it could 254 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,759 look at it as a black candidate, versus an Asian candidate, and like 255 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:26,160 how people really vote. You could look at in Chicago. I remember just 256 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,200 kind of rolling over in bed and Sarah was hard at work already, and 257 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,160 she's like, this race is really close. I'm like, no, it's 258 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,960 not. There's no shot that Chicago is going to elect a white guy to 259 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:42,119 arrest people and fix its problems versus a black canda. It's just America. 260 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:48,160 On race lines in the cities particular, and on political lines in the suburbs 261 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,279 and everywhere else, it's gotten so freaking tribal. It's like people don't care 262 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:56,279 anymore. So it worked out I think in this case in Philadelphia, but 263 00:18:56,319 --> 00:19:00,680 I don't think it's gonna work out for Philandodoer in Chicago, where the progressive 264 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,119 group that backed the new mayor just released a plan for what they want to 265 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,799 have the mayor do, and the first page of it literally is titled First 266 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,000 we get the Money. It's a list of all the taxis they want to 267 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,359 do. We're in trouble in this country. Yeah, and again I think 268 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:25,880 a lot of this is not. That's why you see tension between you know, 269 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:32,400 the Brandon Johnson's and like moderates that are also Democrats. You know. 270 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:36,920 That's I think that's where this is really really interesting, because there was a 271 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,359 period of I don't know, maybe ten years, like second Obama term until 272 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:48,160 post twenty twenty where the Democratic Party was completely myopic and thought there would be 273 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:56,200 really no consequences other than cashing virtue signal checks and just you know, depositing 274 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:02,599 virtue signs border policy and crime. Um. And I was also thinking particularly 275 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:07,640 of the gender identity positions as well, all of these things that they took 276 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,880 on cultural issues. Um, well easy, It's like it's like supporting in 277 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,839 God, we trust on coins. Yeah, consequence right, right. So 278 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,759 they're they're working on they're they're closing up to Silicon Valley and they're working on 279 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:26,559 Dodd Frank and um, what they're doing in the meanwhile just absolutely insane radical 280 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:32,359 gestures towards things on gender identity. Like that's an Obama era policy that came 281 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,240 out of his Department of Education via dear Colleiague letter that radically transformed the way 282 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,839 every single school that received public funding in this country. So almost every school 283 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,079 governed itself in terms of bathrooms and locker rooms and single sex spaces. It's 284 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,119 like seeing a nation actively engaged in heaping up its own funeral power. They 285 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,759 changed. They thrust college campuses into absolute chaos with their kangaroo court policies that 286 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:57,279 were also via a dear Colleague letter from the Department of Education. And then 287 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,559 even the left, and especially the left. You had Emily Yaffi writing in 288 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:04,200 The Atlantic, you had the Washington Post editorial board, all these people criticizing 289 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,640 those policies, and suddenly it's like Joe the Biden administration is trying to figure 290 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,039 out what to do with them, trying to kind of have it both ways 291 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:17,720 on those policies, even though they're still they still can't bring themselves to divorce 292 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:23,039 themselves from these insane, radical activist policies. And that's where I think it 293 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:26,319 gets interesting. They're gonna get away with it because Republican voters are going to 294 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:32,279 nominate Donald Trump again. Okay, flush that point out. Well, there's 295 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:38,559 there's no consequences. I mean, Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen in large 296 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:42,119 part because a lot of black voters stayed home and a lot of moderate, 297 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:47,319 moderate voters detested Hillary Clinton, and no one thought Donald Trump was going to 298 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,200 win. He's not going to get a forty six percent. Again, he's 299 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,880 got a strong feeling significantly lower than that. So Republicans are most likely unless 300 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,880 the Senus changes the game dramatically, which it's going to be very difficult for 301 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,480 him to do, but possible, is going to win the nomination and then 302 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:11,240 it's going to become a contest of Trump versus Biden again. And Trump's just 303 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:15,920 got too hard of a ceiling. So, like these polls and the same 304 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,400 thing in Chicago, the same thing in Philadelphia, the same thing in California, 305 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,119 the same thing in Los Angeles, They're not going to elect Republicans. 306 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,000 They might. I like, if you can get like the right race to 307 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,519 appeal to the two our extremely tribal, tribally racial voting blocks right now, 308 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:34,319 maybe you could kind of turn around with some moderation, like like we might 309 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,000 see in Philadelphia, but we might see in New York. But it's a 310 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:45,440 Republicans aren't really aren't aren't posed to pounce. I guess, as political might 311 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,720 say, they're not. What's the alternative, Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell's, 312 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,400 Well, the alternative, I think would be if we're talking about some of 313 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,160 these contests on a state level. There's an interesting question of like de Santis 314 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,200 one originally, I mean now post twenty twenty, we think of Florida. 315 00:23:02,319 --> 00:23:06,559 It's almost a joke to think of someone like Andrew Gillham winning the governor's race 316 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,839 in Florida. But he and Florida itself is no longer a joke. I 317 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,440 mean Florida man like Florida was thought it was a kind of a crime ridden 318 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,599 retirement community with Disney World, with Basalt, Florida did not have a very 319 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,359 good reputation. The idea that if you told a time traveler from twenty thirteen, 320 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:29,039 like, hey, in ten years, Texas is going to be following 321 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,240 Florida as like the leader of the GOP what right, right right? And 322 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Florida itself has only had that transformation because Ronda Santis, I shouldn't say only, 323 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,839 but in large part because Ronda Santas won a race by the slimmest of 324 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,319 margins for governor of that state, and because she didn't run a very strong 325 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:55,039 campaign when you ran a very maga campaign. I remember I remember at the 326 00:23:55,079 --> 00:24:00,799 time being frustrated with how he didn't seem to be fighting Andrew Gillham properly, 327 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,599 literally literally in order you having meth head. As it turns out, IgE 328 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,480 if that'll come out when he was actually governor, Man, I wonder what 329 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,359 happened to that Ronda Santas guy. I'd be like rob Ford, Remember Rob 330 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Ford. I'm sure the Day Caller was all over the Rob Ford Sr. 331 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,920 Love that guy. Yes, well, so that's I think an interesting question, 332 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,839 right that you have distansis winning by the slimness of margins, transforming a 333 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:32,160 purple state into a pretty deep red state. Obviously, COVID was a total 334 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,720 game changer for Florida. People moving to Florida. You had just a change 335 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:40,680 of attitude because of crime and what people were seeing with crime around the country, 336 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,640 what was happening at the border under Joe Biden, etcetera, etcetera. 337 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,839 There's a lot going into this, but the point is Republicans in Florida, 338 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:55,119 Conservatives in Florida successfully capitalized with messaging and legislation on those policies. And yeah, 339 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:03,079 remember I spoke to the incoming speakers class Republicans and Florida legislature like two 340 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,279 years ago. This is because of you. You did this. No, 341 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,839 but Chris Bedford secretly transformed Florida into a conservative eye the way, very appreciative 342 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:17,079 of my references to the Thirty Years War. There's a big win. As 343 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,599 I remember just going down there and they put together this advertisement like Florida's open 344 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,759 for business, and they had like these state legislators like grilling or jet skiing 345 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680 or soft and they're coming in and saying Florida's open for business. Come on 346 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,240 down. And it was like, by far the most professionally produced and actually 347 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:36,799 good and not cringe at all local state party added ever seen. And it 348 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,400 was it was like part of the whole Republican Party of Florida has kind of 349 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,720 gotten a lockstep and just moved forward in the direction with the Santis and it 350 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,400 was it was really impressive. You know, a lot of times state legislatures. 351 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,319 I actually love interviewing them state party chairman and other people when you're on 352 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,480 the road because they're not like DC people, like really honest and they'll tell 353 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,079 you the reality situation, like they know their stuff right, like they actually 354 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:06,119 understand the policy fights in legislation. But it's rare that there that they have 355 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,160 such smooth operations as it's not down there. Well that's yeah, that's interesting 356 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:17,160 too. Gillam is a figure that I think is Biden asque in that Um, 357 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,559 I shouldn't know, Biden is wrong, Biden's the wrong comparison. But 358 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,240 I meant in terms of having this tug of war, being a figure in 359 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,160 the tug of war between the like activists left and the sort of mainstream. 360 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,119 Gillem was really liked by the media. It was really championed, I think 361 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,960 by the Democratic Party because he's able to be put forward I guess progressive messaging 362 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:44,720 while also being kind of an establishment darling because of the political the strategic things 363 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,759 they're able to do that. There was so much that I tried to rehabilitate 364 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:51,480 him, Like six months ago, I was a GQ or somethody just spread 365 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,519 up. Did they really I missed that? Yeah, everyone decided to just 366 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,880 ignore that one his wife, he's still married, I recall. I think 367 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,119 I couldn't be mistake. Oh well, good for them, that's great. 368 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:07,880 They're sickness and in health. I hope they're doing well. But so their 369 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Democrats have lost political capital in states like Florida by not owning these issues. 370 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:17,200 And I think Eric Adams is frustrated that Eric Adams of the party are frustrated 371 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,880 by that, both politically and like genuinely ideologically. Eric Adams is a guy 372 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,440 who comes from a police background, looks at the city under build A Blasio 373 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,880 and says, obviously, we need to do some things. But he's not 374 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,440 able to like really fully do everything because there's still this they've replaced their actual 375 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,720 moral beliefs with new ones because they were never that deep seated in the first 376 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,000 place. Because if it's not sort of rooted in something that you believe is 377 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,359 fundamentally true. And when I say that, I mean God or I mean 378 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:56,079 order in all of these like first principles, if you didn't have that in 379 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,000 the first place, then Christ just showed me a picture of Eric Adams and 380 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,440 as his wife. So how Andrew Gilram's marriage survived and out of scandal. 381 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,720 But I immediately you're good at that because you're on a really good role. 382 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,519 So well, I'm just saying, if you don't have those first principles, 383 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,400 And I think what we've learned is that in the twentieth century, a lot 384 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,640 of people just grew up without those first principles and were easily swayed by what 385 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,240 came in the twenty first century. In this like new religion of radical postmodern 386 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,160 leftism, A couple there was a couple of new religions of radical new religions 387 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,480 in the twentieth century. But I mean, if you decide I met in 388 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440 the twenty first century. Yeah. So if you've decided that sex and gender 389 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,799 identity are interchangeable, and you have staked ten years of your politics on that, 390 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,759 and if you have decided that we need to decriminalize, we need to 391 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,319 do X, Y and Z, and you've made that a really like a 392 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:52,119 fundamental part of your ideology, and your ideology is your morality, then you 393 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,599 can't easily let go of these things. I think the thing is a cential 394 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,319 lie. And I've gotten an argument with friends of ours, editors in chiefs 395 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:04,279 of websites I think that are considered conservative and stuff over this issue. They're 396 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,599 like, oh, let's live and let live. Who cares? Why do 397 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640 you care? I think the gender thing once you can get an entire population 398 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,119 and it's children to repeat after you, what I see is not real. 399 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,519 Yes, what I don't see Israel yep, Like fact up is down, 400 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,839 down is up? I mean, it's it's really basic. Once you can 401 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:27,720 get people to openly speak the lie and attack those who attack those who are 402 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:32,119 like what yep, Then you can really convince some of everything. And when 403 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:36,799 you can get the Democratic Party to have utter lawlessness on the border but claim 404 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,400 because they have they're still customs and border patrol, etc. When you can 405 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,000 get the Democratic Party for a year to follow the defund the police line and 406 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,559 then trot out the geriatric president the United States and say we don't want to 407 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:52,240 defund the police. A couple of years later wanted to defund the police. 408 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,480 They are like they are. They are rooted in absolutely nothing except some like 409 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,160 very very radical lies, like the sex and gender one is a good one 410 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:10,640 that America is systemically and on. You can't rehabilitate the like fundamental racism that 411 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:15,119 is built into the system of our government. And so there are some I 412 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:22,279 think, you know gen X and Boomer Democrats who maybe had values that actually 413 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,079 were deeply rooted and they have rethought some of these things. But the people 414 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,960 that are our age and younger than us who are now coming up as voters 415 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:37,079 in the workforce, who were raised on this like very thorough post boomer postmodernism, 416 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,759 like post Howard's in ideas about the world that there is no God, 417 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,640 that it's a truth is relative. I mean, I think this fundamentally comes 418 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640 down to the idea that truth is relative. You can believe that somebody's God 419 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,720 is real without believing that God is real, because it's your truth versus their 420 00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,160 truth. I mean, things that just absolutely don't make sense. Then you 421 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:02,279 are installed with a software that's going to glitch out. And I think you 422 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,799 see that in the Democratic Party, they just like it is utterly incoherent. 423 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,759 And this isn't to say that the Republican Party is truly the party of God 424 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,680 in law and order and all of those things. I think we see this. 425 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,279 This has bled deeply into the Republican Party because it's bled deeply into the 426 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,640 American population. And you're right, Chris, that we don't just like the 427 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,599 cities are very very different. And Charles Murray wrote about this and coming apart, 428 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,599 that's for all of these socioeconomic reasons that what's happening in the suburbs, 429 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,880 what's happening in rural America is different. But what like it or not. 430 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200 You know, a huge percentage of the country lives in the city. It 431 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,880 lives in our cities, and a much bigger percentage than that is affected by 432 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,519 what happens in our cities, and it's a it's reflective of I think that 433 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:47,480 that very very very deep problem in our culture more generally. And that's why 434 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400 I think sadly when you look at what happens here in the district where you 435 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,559 have Mariel Bowser, a corporate Democrat who even won over the heart of Christopher 436 00:31:55,559 --> 00:32:00,319 Bedford and the vote of Christopher. Now that was a strictly self preservation vote, 437 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:05,319 right, and she's testifying her second arm. She's testifying in front of 438 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,119 Congress where Republicans are criticizing her policies rightfully so, but she also is in 439 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,519 fights with the left here in Washington, DC because she wants to do something 440 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:20,200 crazy. Persons in the city council. She's like the bare minimum. But 441 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,119 there is good news that now finally, instead of someone who speaks truth to 442 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,519 power, we now get the APM Fox News slot Sean Hannity interviewing Caitlin Jenner 443 00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:35,440 about how Democrats are the real racists. So like, there is hope for 444 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,759 the republic. Yeah, but so you say that sarcastically, and then you 445 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:44,000 think, well, an institution like Twitter was captured by somebody like Elon Musk 446 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,519 and Tucker is not going to Day I buy and sell people like you. 447 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,680 And then Tucker is now going to be broadcasting without literally any corporate filter, 448 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,240 straight to that platform. That's interesting, Well, I'm interesting. That's like 449 00:32:55,319 --> 00:33:00,559 the Florida of the tech interestring. Like Tucker is to Twitter and Elon Muskin 450 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,839 and Tucker are to Twitter and Silicon Valley. What run to santasist to Florida. 451 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Yeah, I mean, let's I'm interested to see what Tucker is going 452 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:12,000 to do with that. There's a question like why did they do that on 453 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,079 Twitter? I think I think he rightly is saying I'm not going to shut 454 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,200 up, even though Fox lawyer is going to try to make me shut up. 455 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,119 And I don't think he wanted to sign a contract with anyone like Spotify 456 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,799 or something, yeah right away. And also, you know when you're if 457 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,880 you're a company like Spotify, you probably have to build in all the millions 458 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,359 of dollars the Fox is going to sue you for if you hire him and 459 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:38,119 break his contract. So that's I love that a lot of people get beat 460 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,079 up and pummeled by corporate media and told to shut up and do and I'm 461 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:50,400 really interested to see what the mixed iteration of Tucker is, what he puts 462 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,240 his energies forward. I mean, he was kind of sick of the TV 463 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,720 show, Like the television format was not his favorite format. And you can 464 00:33:55,799 --> 00:34:00,359 really tell that when you looked at the Fox Nation show man there and have 465 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,440 an hour long conversation with someone that was thoughtful and didn't have to be boom 466 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,440 boom boom boom commercial break, boom boom boom, commercial break. I think 467 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,400 he loved the monologues in the opening, and he really enjoyed some of the 468 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,719 interviews, but just the nature of television, which made for like a seven 469 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,360 year old attention span. You should be constantly shifting, constantly moving, thank 470 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,920 you, thank you. I think my last couple of interviewers on his show 471 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,639 were like two questions, Yeah, yeah, it's just rapid fire. Yeah, 472 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,800 so I'm interested to see, Okay, we're now. Now you get 473 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000 to choose what you want to do. You're you're not constrained by anything, 474 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,519 and people will follow you. I mean the viewers, the average viewership of 475 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,639 all of cable news just went up significantly when he was fired from one station. 476 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,920 And yes, I'm looking forward to it. Were people pinging you on 477 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:54,960 your honeymoon questions about Tucker less fortunately less by the honeymoon a lot, a 478 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,239 lot and leaked up to the wedding. Oh my gosh, a lot the 479 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:05,519 Tucker whisper ye were because he got so busy that we missed him. But 480 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,480 you know, I think on the thirty thousand foot level, there there are 481 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,239 two themes. So what we've talked about. One is institutional recapture, and 482 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,199 the second is how institutional recapture then can can shift incentives and institutions that plainly 483 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,360 cannot be recapture must be getting the long mark right, Like the New York 484 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,920 Times. Isn't that going to be recaptured by you know, like or Time 485 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,079 magazine is not gonna be recaptured by like Henry Louse right, Like this is 486 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:36,400 not happening, um, but by like the anti commies, Like that's they're 487 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,679 not retaking Time magazine. But the incentive structure at those institutions can shift by 488 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,280 the institutions that are recaptured. Anyway, That's the basic math as I see 489 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,039 it. Beautiful mounting on a truck, David Ezra maybe actually feel better about 490 00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:53,199 this? So wrong? What we've been losing for sixty years. You said, 491 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,760 yeah, we would only just begun to fight treads coming from all right. 492 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,199 Well, Christopher Bedford, exact editor over at the Common Sense Society, 493 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,320 thank you so much and congratulations. Thanks a lot. Glad to be back. 494 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,559 I bet you are. You got rum out of it. I have 495 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,519 to pregame. It's the Feast of the Ascension. It starts in two minutes. 496 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,559 You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm em 497 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,519 A Leijashinski, culture editor here at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with 498 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:29,920 more. Until then, the lovers of freedom and anxious for the friend heard 499 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:39,679 of fame by a reason, and then it raided away.