WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.880 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.839 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are 3 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.960 get off our show, idiot, the kids are crying or turn off. 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.679 The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold 5 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.879 Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be with youure adults, but they're really 6 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:28.359 not. Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding 7 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:45.479 me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee? All right, Good afternoon, ladies 8 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.280 and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome in Happy Tuesday Coffee and company. 9 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:53.479 That's us. We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety, 10 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.399 taking you up till six o'clock. My name's Nick Coffee. Nice to meet 11 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:03.239 you. Kind of. In fact, people who listen I feel like they 12 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.879 know me. I mean to some extent, not personally, but like you 13 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:08.640 know, it's if you listen, even just a little bit here and there, 14 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.400 there's got to be some level of a connection. That's why you you 15 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.120 know, that's why you tune in, even if it is for maybe a 16 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.439 few minutes every day. But I still, you know, I guess we've 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.239 never technically met, but hopefully we do. The other voice you're gonna hear 18 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.079 today is the company man, mister John Alden. And what a rare day 19 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.920 today we've got. As we start to show all three local teams have landed 20 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.959 a transfer today, we'll start with the latest and easily the biggest deal, 21 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.879 and that's Javon Hadley. I mean, I don't just so you know John 22 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:45.239 Omar Ballei Arizona transfer who committed to the Hoosiers little but didn't even want him. 23 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:47.680 Oh yeah, I definite, he don it. They probably called him 24 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.519 and told him, don't even worry about it. He's not a fit. 25 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:53.439 He doesn't style of play just it's not a compatible fit. Therefore, I 26 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.319 just think, you know, they probably said, look, just go ahead 27 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.480 and enjoy your mother Bear's pizza in Bloomington, and you know, maybe we'll 28 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.799 see in. It would be the Bahamas, wouldn't it. Oh yeah, 29 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:05.959 the Bahamas. Both would be great. But yeah they're going to the Battle 30 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.120 for Atlantis, which is in the Bahamas, not Hawaii. But either way, 31 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.680 uh, Javon Hadley, which I will admit this is one of those 32 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:16.560 guys yesterday that I briefly mentioned because he just kind of got lost in the 33 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:20.800 in the mix. And what I mean by that is his recruitment throughout the 34 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.479 portal. I mean, it was covered, but it wasn't necessarily you know, 35 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.319 I mean, it just didn't. Of all the names that Louisville is 36 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.000 in on when it comes to players that are transferring, and trust me, 37 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.960 there are a lot, you know, He's one that was mentioned. But 38 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.759 it seemed to be working pretty quickly, right Like, I think as soon 39 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.520 as Louisville appeared, you know, as soon as it was out that Louisville 40 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:44.719 was involved, then he was on campus for a visit that visited. That 41 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.360 visit I believe ended either last night or this morning. I think it was 42 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:53.840 this morning. Pat Kelsey gave out the signal, which when I say the 43 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:58.159 signal, I feel like every coach maybe not every coach, but a lot 44 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.960 of coaches have a they send out on social media, mostly Twitter, that 45 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.039 is an indication of a commitment coming because they can't obviously announce it because these 46 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.000 get these guys have to actually sign some type of documentation with the school before 47 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.199 Pat Kelsey in the university can publicly comment on them at all. And I 48 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:25.039 think Pat Kelsey's his signal is really really really well done. So he posted 49 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:30.560 a wink emoji, which that alone is like a sign right, and then 50 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:37.240 it is an Apple Music link for a Zach Bryan. I guess is it 51 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:39.520 his album? No, it's so Zach Bryan, who, of course I'm 52 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.520 not a huge fan of, but he's super popular and he's I mean, 53 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.159 I'm not saying he's not good, but he to me, again we've talked 54 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.039 about him, he's sad. He's a sad guy. Right. Everything he 55 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.240 does is sad john and it all kind of sounds the same. But he's 56 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.199 like super talented, Like his voice is great, he's a good writer. 57 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:58.479 To me, it's just kind of sad. So he has an album called 58 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.479 Elizabeth that came out in twin and it's uh, I think it's I think 59 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.520 that's the name of his mother. But anyways, one of the songs in 60 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:11.080 that album is called Revival, which, if you haven't seen Pat Kelsey's you 61 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.480 know hashtag the UFL men's basketball hashtag on social media is revival, but it's 62 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:20.199 not spelled like the song here for Zach Bryan, it's spelled I think they 63 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:25.720 do R E V I double V I ll E and then there's kind of 64 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:30.720 like some customization as far as which words are capitalized. But that if that's 65 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.120 going to be a sign that's pretty cool. Maybe he gets clever, Maybe 66 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:35.879 he does other things that you know, maybe he does something fresh each and 67 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:40.360 every time, which he's going to have to really get those creative juices flowing. 68 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.439 Because he's now landed two transfers as far as newcomers, and I guess 69 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.240 the others are newcomers as well, but those are guys that followed him to 70 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:53.480 Louisville from Charleston. So four players in the mix right now, and we 71 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:57.839 will have there's thirteen scholarship, so I guess that's nine players left. But 72 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.800 just to tell you a little bit about this man, Javon Hadley played at 73 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:04.959 Colorado the last couple of years and was productive for them. You know, 74 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.240 they were a good team the last couple of years. I mean, they 75 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.000 didn't have any big deep tournament runs, but again, you know, I 76 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.000 think it's safe to say they were in fact a good team. But this 77 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:18.720 past year he averaged roughly twelve points a game and shot fifty four percent from 78 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:23.600 the field. Has an interesting story, so he is from the Minnesota area, 79 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:28.639 and he was AAU teammates with two guys that happened to get a whole 80 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.560 lot more attention than he did on that AAU team, and that was Chet 81 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.480 Holmgren and Jalen Sucks. So he ended up going to I think Northeastern, 82 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.240 a D one school right out of high school, and didn't play much there. 83 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.040 Then he went Then he went to JUCO route Indian Hills Community College, 84 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.839 which I'm a nerd for JUCO basketball as somebody who briefly, you know, 85 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:51.199 was on a junior college basketball team. Didn't play much, but you know, 86 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:54.000 he's one of those guys that I think you could say as a late 87 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.319 bloomer, like he looks like a grown ass man compared to what he looked 88 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.279 like just a couple of years ago when he was coming out of the JUCO 89 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.360 ranks. So productive at Colorado hit the portal had a lot of options, 90 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:08.120 and it sounds like it came down to Louisville and USC. So Javon Hadley 91 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.439 is in the mix. He's a six to six guard, but if you 92 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.879 watch some of his highlights, he is someone that is I would say, 93 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.199 uh he I wouldn't call him a guard slash forward. Maybe that is the 94 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.560 way I should describe him as far as what I've seen. But you know, 95 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.680 he can He's a guard that'll post up because he's got some size. 96 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.199 He rebounds really well. In fact, you know, if you look at 97 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.759 if you look at his numbers, I mean pull up his rebounding numbers, 98 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.879 because you know, I think he was I want to say he was one 99 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:43.120 of the more you know, productive rebounders for Colorado. So again, good 100 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:47.879 news. They've got many more visits scheduled this week. So two down and 101 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:53.319 we'll have uh, you know, we'll have one more, uh many more 102 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.800 to go, I should say, And excuse me for you know, scrambling 103 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.160 here. I'm just trying to make sure I get the correct statistics here, 104 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.879 because let's be real, like a lot of you probably have never heard of 105 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.800 this guy. And that's okay. Doesn't mean he's not a good player, 106 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.600 doesn't mean that you're not a diehard fan. It's just this is different. 107 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.480 Man. Keeping up with all these new players is gonna be and it'll be 108 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.959 like that every year, but this is different. Louisville is going to have 109 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.680 next year, I imagine at minimum twelve new players on this team. That 110 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.480 none of us had ever heard of before, you know, the portal opened 111 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.920 up and all these guys you know, became available, and now maybe you 112 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.160 end up getting somebody in the portal that you are familiar with because you watched 113 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:35.519 him play here. Maybe they played against Louisville. But again, it's it's 114 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.560 uh, you know, it's it's hectic, and we've got the football portal 115 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.160 too, which, by the way, we'll get to that coming up here 116 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.480 soon because there's already been some some gossip going on on Twitter, some some 117 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:51.720 conspiring I believe, to spread information that's false about Jeff Brahm and the bag 118 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:56.040 that he's dropping to get all these players. And I think I have a 119 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.319 pretty good intel here as to what exactly played out. But it's start with 120 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.040 the report from twenty for seven sports that was just not true. So again 121 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.279 we'll get to that a little bit later on. But again, Javon Hadley 122 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.279 eleven and a half points a game, six rebounds, two and a half 123 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.879 assists, shot fifty three percent from the field, which is pretty that's just 124 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.319 that's a really productive and efficient stat line. So twelve points roughly, and 125 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.240 also he shot it, you know, he shot forty one percent from three, 126 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.920 which you know, to be honest with you, is is really impressive 127 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.079 from a number standpoint. But a lot of people would say, well, 128 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.159 hey, maybe it's misleading because he didn't shoot that many, and maybe you 129 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.320 see it that way, but you know, he did shoot forty eight of 130 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.720 them. I mean, that's not like you're shooting, you know, for 131 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.519 a game. But he was twenty of forty eight from three. So that's 132 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:45.559 a guy who can knock it down when he gets good shot. So a 133 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.559 good pick up here. I don't know where he ranks in the transfer portal 134 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:54.200 rankings that are out there, but a good addition, no doubt. And 135 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.919 then again Omar Ballet, I think it's Omar Ballow Ballow, I said, 136 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:01.840 I'm sorry, and it was. It wasn't like I was forgetting his name 137 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.120 because you know, he didn't come to Louisville and he didn't make the visit. 138 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.120 But you know that was a guy who ESPN had is the number one 139 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.279 player in the portal for Indiana. And I'm only bringing up the Indiana guy 140 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.120 first instead of get before we get to the Kentucky thing, because we had 141 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:22.159 a caller yesterday call in and ask, you know where Louisville's nile resources compares 142 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.960 to to others, And I'm pretty sure I gave a long winded non answer 143 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.559 to then just say, I don't think we're ever going to really know, 144 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:35.559 because it's all gonna be private information. It's and honestly, I still believe 145 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.480 that in well, nil is clearly very important. We all know that. 146 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.799 But I still believe some of the numbers you hear are just not real. 147 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.879 I mean, maybe I'm maybe I'm just you know, in the weeds on 148 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.399 that, but I just don't think some of these guys are getting the money 149 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.600 that they that they you know, that people think they are. But either 150 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.480 way, I think the louis is going to be really competitive and being a 151 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.879 really good spot. I wouldn't say that they have more money than anybody in 152 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:01.279 college basketball for an il, but I think they're gonna be in a really 153 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.120 good spot. I think they'll be in the upper tier where they land. 154 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:09.480 I don't think we'll ever know, but it sounds like Indiana may in fact 155 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.840 be like the absolute leader in that regard. And I'm not saying that to 156 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.360 act like, well, Bollo wanted to come to Louisville, but Indiana just 157 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.240 paid him too much money, trust me, I don't. I mean, 158 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.759 I think since he scheduled his visits, I think everybody expected Indiana to be 159 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.720 the school where he lands, and that's what happened. But I'm sure you're 160 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.200 hearing the same thing, John, like when it comes to nil, who's 161 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.399 your the hoo's your fan base, the who's your supporters, the donors? 162 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:37.360 I mean they got, they got, they got the bag, Yeah they 163 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.000 do. I don't have any inside information, but if you look at the 164 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:45.159 way that Mike Woodson has attacked the Portal, specifically the last two seasons, 165 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.200 He's been able to get some of the top guys. Doesn't get everybody that 166 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.159 he wants, but I think they go for the heavy hitters pretty early on, 167 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.399 at least from what I've noticed in his first two seasons with the Portal, 168 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.879 and he typically gets those guys, especially the Biggs Khalel where being last 169 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.120 year and I got Omar Ball. I mean, let's be real early in 170 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.360 the portal, which I guess we can still call this early. College basketball 171 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:11.919 season just ended eight days ago, but Mike Woodson has landed the early stages 172 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.480 of these rankings the number one player in the portal for two consecutive years. 173 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.960 I mean he did. That's why now Hunter Dickinson, I believe he was 174 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.360 the number one last year. I was not. Well, yeah, he 175 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.600 ended up being that, But that's why I said early stages. That's true, 176 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.080 like when you you know, let's be real, even if it's considered 177 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.960 to be early as far as how you're putting together your roster, I mean 178 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.159 people, you still need to be active, right. So this is a 179 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.840 guy that a lot a lot of schools wanted was in the portal. And 180 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.080 the reason I just think it's fascinating is because I could be wrong, but 181 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.559 I think a lot of the NIO money that Indiana has is not from a 182 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.000 collective. I think it's just people who got money and they're like, hey, 183 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.000 let's show me. Let me know what I need to do here to 184 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.480 make this work, and we'll get it. We'll get it situated. So 185 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.240 uh yeah. And the other addition is a guy that I don't think anybody 186 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:56.639 knows anything about, and that is Colin Chandler. And I guess you could 187 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.720 say the same about the other players. I'm not trying to disrespect this kid 188 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.799 who's transferring to Kentucky, But when I say nobody knows anything about him. 189 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.000 There's no stats to pull up, because this is a young man who was 190 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:11.399 a recruit in the twenty twenty two class and he committed to b YU number 191 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.879 thirty three overall in the country at that time top forty is depending on where 192 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.159 you look, and he committed to be WYU, but he never played because 193 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.679 he's been away on a two year mission and will make his college debut as 194 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.879 a freshman in this upcoming season. So you know this is a I mean, 195 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:31.279 I don't know, I'm trying not to, but you know, the 196 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.799 rivalry's kind of back on right, Like I'm I'm gonna probably at times be 197 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.799 a little more petty than I've been in a while because this being labeled as 198 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:46.600 like a big get, all big time edition, huge massive git for Mark 199 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.799 Pope. He already had him, like he didn't, I mean, he 200 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.879 already had this guy, like he was already committed to Mark Pope and he 201 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.639 followed Mark Pope to BYU, Like this isn't like whow I mean? And 202 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.720 look, what are you gonna do? Act like you're not happy that your 203 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.120 new coach got a player, Like I'm not saying anybody should like dump on 204 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.279 it. But man, it's just weird with Kentucky fans. What I mean 205 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.519 by that, I'm not saying you are weird as a Kentucky fan. I'm 206 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.519 just saying the dynamics here, like, if you're somebody that's really into recruiting, 207 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.639 and trust me, I know a lot of people aren't. In fact, 208 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.399 i'd say a good chunk of people who do tune into too shows like 209 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.399 this one on their way home from work, they probably don't really follow it 210 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:28.279 much at all. But this is the kind of guy that if you landed 211 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:33.000 him under your previous coach, he would have been probably one of your worst 212 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.679 recruits and you would have said, yeah, I'll probably transfer in a year, 213 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.080 or if Louisville was to land the exact same guy a year ago, 214 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.120 two years ago in the Caliperi era, that's a cute little player. Was 215 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.639 he four star? Like That's what they would have said, and we all 216 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:54.639 know that's true. And now that's like, oh massive, git kids really 217 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.320 good and I don't know anything about it. Maybe is great, but you 218 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.679 know, he's a top forty ish recruit. And I'm sure we'll get some 219 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:07.879 specifics on this because you know there are a lot of great, hardworking media 220 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.440 members that cover Kentucky, some of them I'm friends with. They'll get information 221 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.440 on this kid because that's what they do. But when you're on a mission 222 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:16.960 trip, like I don't think you're supposed to play, I don't think. 223 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.240 I don't think this guy's played basketball in two years? Has he? I 224 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.960 mean, that's a good question. So this guy's gonna be a like a 225 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.960 twenty year old freshman, right, Yeah, it's very weird to think about. 226 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:31.279 So, you know, I don't know anything about him. He's apparently 227 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:37.080 a I think he's like I think he's like a wing slash guard and who 228 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.960 knows, maybe he's a star. But I just today was like the first 229 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.639 day where it hit me like, wow, this is gonna be different, 230 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.279 because you know, that's exactly what they would have done as a fan base 231 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:54.519 in the previous regime, right, Like, uh, oh, man, 232 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.279 that's cute recruit. He's a nice little player. Like just just the the 233 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.600 I mean, I wouldn't even call it like a backhanded compliment, like it's 234 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.480 just clearly being a you know, being snarky, and you know, I 235 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.919 think anybody that would typically get a player that's in the top forty should feel 236 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.519 good about it. But Kentucky was on a different level. And now they're 237 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.639 going to be doing things so much differently because Mark Pope has really made it 238 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:24.159 clear that he's gonna push and push and push for guys who you know only 239 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.080 you know he's given you the typical coach speaks stuff as far as like, 240 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.960 you know, he wants players that want to play here for Kentucky, that 241 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.200 understand what it means to wear that uniform and all that. And I'm not 242 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.080 being critical of him saying that stuff because I actually think he's saying it and 243 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.480 believes it because that's what he did. But it's so different than the way 244 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:48.720 they've operated for fourteen years, so much different, And it's also reminded it. 245 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:54.799 Look, if your coach goes about it one way, he's your coach. 246 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:58.559 You're gonna ride with him as your guy. If a different coach goes 247 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.360 about it a different way, same situation, but it's just a drastic difference 248 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.559 in you know, how they're going to go about it. Like, for 249 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:11.320 example, I think we pull up this quote because last night he had his 250 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:18.000 Coaches Show, which I believe you guys heard on on has and one of 251 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.320 the things that stood out as far as his you know, as far as 252 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.919 his quotes, was that, you know, he doesn't want to let me 253 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.320 pull it up here because I don't want to misquote mister Mark Pope, but 254 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.080 here's what he said. Quote, we don't want to trick kids into coming 255 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:34.799 here. We want the right kids who will live and die to wear the 256 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.919 Kentucky uniform. There's no issue with that quote at all. But that can't 257 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.720 be your sales pitch when you're going after five star players. I mean it 258 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.639 can, but you've got to have other things. And I'm sure they're going 259 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.759 to have more involved, more more you know, things to sell than just 260 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:49.679 that. Like it's not like, hey, uh, here's your audition. 261 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:52.679 You got to show ish that you'll die to wear the uniform. Like I'm 262 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.200 not saying that's the approach that Mark Pope is going to have, but I 263 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.639 don't really think that's what five star players who know they command humongous amounts of 264 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.000 money through NIL are gonna want to hear. And I think that's why you've 265 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.799 had players that have met with Mark Pope and decided to leave. I mean, 266 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:14.920 Boogie Flanned gone, He'll probably Indiana involved there at all anymore, because 267 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.799 I don't I haven't heard anything. It probably means not right, I would 268 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.279 assume, I would assume you're correct. I hope. I wish they would 269 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.240 get involved because I wanted him to need Indiana the first time he picked Kentucky 270 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:26.079 over Indiana, didn't Yes, and Alabama. Those was the top three. 271 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.559 So you know the other guy, Billy Richmond from up there in New Jersey, 272 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.599 the Purvis guy, which means that this man will probably uh, Billy 273 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.640 Richmond will probably follow Cal to Arkansas, I would think. So. I 274 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:45.119 don't know. It just it was I mean, I mean, I suspected 275 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.240 that this is sort of this is the kind of brand that you'd have with 276 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:49.119 Mark Pope. It was gonna be a lot different than Cal. But just 277 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.599 to kind of see the Kentucky fans. And again, I'm not even making 278 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.079 fun of him. This isn't like I'm not even really rivalring. It's just 279 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.680 that's a drastic difference to it than what it used to be. All Right, 280 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.519 So here's what we're gonna do. I do want to get some football 281 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:03.920 stuff coming up here on the other side, because we've got sp the Louisville 282 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:10.119 spring game coming up in a few days, and today's the day where players 283 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.319 can officially be in the portal. I think the process for that started yesterday 284 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.319 the day before, but now it's officially open. And in the last couple 285 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.000 of days, even before this morning, there was another report from I think 286 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.400 on three sports. We've had on three sports and twenty four to seven sports 287 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.079 put out information. I guess reports I should say about players transferring. They 288 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:37.640 just ended up being wrong, and it's got some Louisville fans suspecting that maybe 289 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:42.240 there's some kind of a you know, they're worried about Louisville, right because 290 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.200 Jeff Brohm did, in fact do really well on the portal last year, 291 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.720 did really well, you know, so far this year. Obviously, things 292 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:55.680 are changing now because it's back open and Louisville's now losing guys that have already. 293 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.079 I mean, Penny Boone, the transfer from Toledo Mac offensive player of 294 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.480 the year. He's in the portal, and I don't know if he started 295 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.039 it, if he started telling people this, but there's some misinformation out there 296 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.720 that the reason he is transferring is because he did not get the money that 297 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.599 he thought he was going to get through NIL, which I feel confident in 298 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.400 saying that that is not true at all, has nothing to do with it. 299 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.519 I mean, honestly, the reason he's leaving is because he's not near 300 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.440 the top of the depth chart. And if I was him and I only 301 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.039 had what one year to play, maybe I would want to do the same 302 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.039 thing. And would you want to let would you want the narrative to be 303 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.160 went to Louisville from Toledo, and he couldn't. He couldn't emerge as the 304 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:44.079 top guy with a back with a running back room that really doesn't have a 305 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.000 I mean, he's the most proven guy of the of the guys that were 306 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.039 here this spring, and I think he was third at best on the depth 307 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:56.200 chart. So, you know, little fans man, we're crazy, and 308 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.599 sometimes it's an issue for us where we just look like absolute psychopaths. But 309 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:06.359 as soon as it became clear that Brandon Marcella, who's a really respected reporter 310 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.039 for twenty four to seven Sports, as soon as it was quite clear that 311 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:15.039 what he put out there was just completely wrong, the Louisville fan base went 312 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.440 after him all over Twitter, x whatever you want to call it. And 313 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.200 now it's just you know, and it's just turned into where we're we're on 314 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.640 high alert to see if anybody else is going to, you know, put 315 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:29.880 out information that's just not true, because here here is something that is in 316 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:36.559 all seriousness potentially an issue. If the if the the perception is that you 317 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.799 are talking big money in IL but you don't have the funds to back it 318 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.079 up, that's not a good look. Even if it's like not true and 319 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:47.640 it's been disputed and everybody knows like that, noise being out there for a 320 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.119 certain amount of time can just make people believe that when you're selling an IL, 321 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.880 it's not real, like it's not real money. So but then again, 322 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:56.279 if we're gonna be we're going to take a step back and look at 323 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.720 this entire thing for what it is, the portal and INNIL. It's an 324 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:06.200 absolute disaster. There's no there's no regulation, there's no way to know if 325 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:11.839 anything's real and what's not. I mean, it's it's crazy and I kind 326 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.640 of love it. I kind of love it. All right, let let's 327 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.079 get to our first break. We'll come back on the other side. Keep 328 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:18.799 this thing rolling along and get it his coffee and company and we are feel 329 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.279 about Thornton's right here on sports talk seven ninety. I gotta be honest with 330 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.160 you, this is actually one of his more upbeat, faster songs that I'm 331 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:30.160 aware of now I know he has I look, I won't claim to know 332 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.839 all of Zach Bryan's catalog, but now get to see. Now it's getting 333 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.400 a little slower and sad. I can't imagine what this show is gonna be 334 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.319 like at Bourbon and Beyond. Is everybody's gonna be crying out in the field. 335 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:48.279 So no, I mean I it's I think honestly this if you are 336 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.640 on Spotify and you like my wife listens to Zach Bryan, Morgan Wallin, 337 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:59.839 Josh molloy, and I like, you know, I don't dislike any of 338 00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:03.079 these any of those musicians really, although I'm not huge Morgan Wallin fan and 339 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.720 I dislike him. It's just there's not many songs of his that I would 340 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.640 say that like I'm a fan of. Has nothing to do with him as 341 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:12.039 a person. But that's kind of It's not a new genre necessarily, but 342 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:17.599 like slower, very low and I don't mean low production, I just mean 343 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.759 not a whole lot into it other than like a good very folky yeah folky, 344 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:25.200 yes, exactly like slow folky like that's that's that's the new wave, 345 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.359 I think, and he's I mean, he's the leader of it. My 346 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:30.759 wife likes this guy named Noah Kahn. I'm sure you've heard of him. 347 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.599 I think I've heard the name. And look, I'm not saying he's not 348 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:38.079 good meaning Zach Bryan, but either way, he's insanely famous right now, 349 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:41.359 is he not? Like he's Oh, he's on top. So anyways, 350 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.119 the reason where we're playing that is because Pat Kelsey gave us a signal this 351 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:52.799 morning on Twitter with a iTunes, Apple Music link to that song Revival, 352 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.559 and I'm curious if that's just, you know, if that's gonna be the 353 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.640 new norm. All right, So real quick, some breaking news that I 354 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.039 know at least one of these names we have we've discussed, but four more 355 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:08.559 additions to the staff. But are these are not necessarily assistant coaches, but 356 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:14.839 director of Ops Mitch Johnson. He's following Kelsey from Charleston. Same thing with 357 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.799 Braden Connor, video coordinator, and then Jermaine Ukeagbu. I believe this how 358 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:22.680 you say that he's going to be the director of player Personnel and an assistant 359 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.799 coach and then Peyton Siva, director of player Development in Basketball Alomni Relations. 360 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.079 I'm so happy for Peyton, really really awesome to see him get this opportunity. 361 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:37.119 Nobody better to represent Louisville basketball than Peyton Seva. Nobody, in my 362 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:42.079 opinion, could better at this stage of their life and career sell what the 363 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:49.480 Louisville basketball experience is to future players, current players. And I'm happy for 364 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.599 him, and Louisville basketball is better with Peyton severa around. I mean, 365 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.920 that's corny and whatnot, but I believe it. So congrats to him, 366 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.000 and I guess congrats to the others. I don't know them, but happy 367 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.640 to have him aboard. All right. So it's a good question that comes 368 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.839 in, and I'm glad somebody asked this question because it's not something I would 369 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:08.599 have thought I would I wouldn't have thought to bring this up, but it's 370 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:14.200 it's probably something a lot of folks are wondering, and that is, if 371 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:18.640 a guy commits to a school in football, signs early and like enrolls early 372 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:22.359 and then leaves, like, do they get in il, Yes, they 373 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.599 do. If a transfer. If you know, for example, Penny Boone, 374 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:32.319 the running back from Toledo. He transferred to Louisville in the winter, 375 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.039 and he's been here since and he's transferring now he's back in the portal. 376 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.160 So what was he roughly, you know, four months or something. You 377 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.440 know, he received some type of nil money. Now, I don't know 378 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:48.960 how it works anywhere else, and I'm not really sure how it works at 379 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.400 all, to be honest with you, but I do know the Louisville Collective, 380 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.359 the five or two circle, they're not giving out like a big lump 381 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.920 sum of money up front. I mean, I think it's like installment payment, 382 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.720 and it's yeah, So let's be honest. This guy who came here 383 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:08.079 and is now leaving, just like Trent Flowers did in basketball, Like they 384 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.839 took money and they didn't you know, they didn't provide a service. Right. 385 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.240 But that's where it's so stupid, because technically, because of how this 386 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.680 has to be done, there's no contract. They're not paid to play basketball. 387 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:23.920 They're paid to just be who they are exist and that's it. So 388 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:32.319 it is wild how the power in college athletics, for every bit of its 389 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:37.240 existence. Until two years ago, the players had zero power at all. 390 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.599 Now they have it all. They have every bit of power, because yeah, 391 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.200 that seems just like shit. Even though even though there's like specific rules 392 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.160 and whatnot, as far as you know what you can and can't do, 393 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.880 I mean, what are you gonna like if you're a fan, it's like 394 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.519 well, or if let's just say you're you're a coach or you're I mean 395 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.400 again, this is where it gets even more stupid. Technically, coach and 396 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.000 play. You know, coaches and people that work for the actual school, 397 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.559 they they aren't allowed to have any involvement in NIL. It's got to be 398 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:12.039 like a sidebarred kind of thing to where they have no control over what money 399 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.519 these guys get. And I'm not saying that they should, but if you 400 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.440 were to have a coach that would step in and say, hey, somebody 401 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.759 tell that NIL collective, nobody's getting a dime unless they you know, they're 402 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.519 here for a full semester and they go through practice. Well okay, I 403 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.640 mean you can do that, but you'll then not get players because that matters. 404 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.079 Now. It's just it's crazy how much different it is. And like 405 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.640 it or not, you have to be healthy in that in that component of 406 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.839 NIL, or you will not get good players and you will probably not win 407 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.920 at a high level, and let'st I check. That's what everybody wants to 408 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:52.440 do. And there's a longer conversation not for today about how and I'm i'm 409 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:57.160 I'm not criticizing anybody because I'm I'm part of this, but college sports fans 410 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:02.759 who love their program, you can make a case for, like a financial 411 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:08.480 standpoint that like we're the biggest suckers of all time because you know, we 412 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:14.559 pay money, We pay a donation and I'm not let me back up, 413 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.759 not we. I mean, I'm saying we because I'm a fan, but 414 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.920 I'm I'm I'm I'm I don't have the money to pay for season tickets or 415 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.519 anything. And I'm very fortunate to be able to get credentialed and go to 416 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.240 the games and stuff that I that I don't want to cover in that kind 417 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.319 of thing. But you pay a donation just to get a season ticket. 418 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.000 That doesn't get you the season ticket. To donation just gives you the ability 419 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.559 to buy season tickets, and then that's a big expense. Well, you 420 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:42.240 know, now you've got players that you know clearly, you know you can 421 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:48.000 still watch and support, but like all the push from the people who know 422 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.799 what they're doing and know how important it is. It's encouraging fans to donate. 423 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:52.480 And it's not you know, you don't have to donate a ton of 424 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.640 money. It's not like you're putting up thousands of dollars every month. I 425 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.759 mean, you can do that if you want, but people care so much 426 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:07.000 about the college basketball the college football program that they love, they'll do it. 427 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.839 They'll pay because they care that much. In a way, that's awesome, 428 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.319 but it's also like, damn like it what point like? I mean, 429 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.599 it's just like the schools should have to pay the players, in my 430 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.279 opinion, But I know why they can't do that. I know why because 431 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:19.960 that would make them employees, and that would muddy this thing up to war. 432 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.039 College athletics, to be honest with you, would not exist anymore. 433 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.440 And I know some people say, well, hey, it's already pro sports 434 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:27.759 now, and you're right, but I'm just telling you, if we ever 435 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.960 got to the point where these college athletes were deemed to be employees of these 436 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:38.160 universities, it would make it so much different than I mean, it already 437 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.519 is different now, but I think it would be like this is actually much 438 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.039 better than if they ever became employees in my opinion. All right, it 439 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.599 is coffee and company. 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I 449 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.440 think he's gonna be a fifth year guy. He is coming off of a 450 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:29.240 season where he averaged roughly twelve points six board, shot fifty four percent from 451 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.119 the floor. Just a good addition overall. And then one thing I forgot 452 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.880 to mention. I think it was in his first year at Colorado, not 453 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.160 this past season, but the season before he was the guy who wore that 454 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.880 really cool looking black mask. Have you seen that? John? I haven't 455 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.160 googled Javon Hadley's name because he had I think a broken nose or a broken 456 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.000 bone in his face maybe. So he wore this mask, and I swear 457 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.039 it looks like it looked like a batman mask. I don't think he wore 458 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.559 it this past season, but like if I was him, I just wear 459 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.599 it for like intimidation reasons. I would too. It looks bad ass, 460 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.160 doesn't it. I like it. So Hadley's in the mix for Louisville. 461 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.640 He visited yesterday, and you know, he's one that I mean, I 462 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:10.200 remember seeing Louisville was involved here, but it's just there's it's tough to keep 463 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.200 up with. But either way, I'm glad that they landed this guy because 464 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:15.279 I think he can help and they need. You know, when I say 465 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.279 they need all the help they can get, it's not like, hey, 466 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.440 we'll take anybody off the street, but they are completely rebuilding an entire roster, 467 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.400 and you know, I think the two additions they've landed outside of those 468 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.599 that have come from Charleston, and I think those guys are going to help 469 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.720 as well. But so far, so good for Pat Kelsey and then Kentucky 470 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.160 they landed. I mean it's a little different because I let me ask you 471 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:38.599 this, John, and I do you think others see it the same way 472 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.440 I do as far as like when you have guys that follow you from your 473 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.319 school, like it's not to say that you know, it was a foregone 474 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:48.799 conclusion that was going to happen, But to me, that's not really like 475 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.640 landing a guy like big Z transferred from Kentucky to Arkansas yesterday. To me, 476 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.400 that's I mean, that's that's an addition. It's a newcomer, but 477 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.240 like the coach is not really doing this same thing as far as I mean, 478 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.960 it's just not the same. Yeah, it's a weird balance because if 479 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.240 you lose the guy because it's BYU that he's coming from, it's not seen 480 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.079 as a big deal. But because you bring him to Kentucky, you almost 481 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.640 had to gass him up a little more. Yeah. So Colin Chandler's following 482 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.079 Mark Pope to BYU. He never played at b YU because he was on 483 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.680 a two year Mormon mission. So he's a former top forty recruit from the 484 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:29.519 twenty twenty two classes not played college basketball, and you know, they got 485 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.440 to start somewhere because right now, I mean, who I think the only 486 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:38.960 two guys on their roster right now that are like, you know, and 487 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.039 one of them like, let's be like Rereed Shepherd is still considered to be 488 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.079 on the roster because he hasn't declared for the draft yet. But I'd be 489 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.240 highly shocked if he doesn't go to the NBA. But then again, there's 490 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.079 a weird connection here. Mark Pope played with his father Jeff, and you 491 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.720 know, I guess crazier things have happened, but he is believed to be 492 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:57.559 a top five pick. And I just don't know how you could not go 493 00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.119 to the NBA if you're a top five pick. But one thing I'll say 494 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.559 about I'll say this for later about Read Shepard because I don't want him to 495 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.160 come back. He's too good. And I'll be honest with you, I 496 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.759 think Reed Shepherd is potentially one of the most likable players that has ever played 497 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.440 for the University of Kentucky. And there's been other guys that have played for 498 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.960 them that I don't think are bad people. I like their game, but 499 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.839 like, I don't cheer for him I can't help but want to like read 500 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.839 Shepherd because he just seems awesome and he's a really good player. But there's 501 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.079 one thing that not enough people are talking about as far as like what could 502 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.920 potentially get him to come back, And I'll get to that later. But 503 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.839 then Omar Ballo is Abalo. I was looking up a pronunciation guy earlier because 504 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.400 I was curious. It looks like it's pronounced you Mar Bollo. We did 505 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.759 play this sound yesterday and they called him Babo, and they, you know, 506 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.400 would call him the action, so we'll just call him Bablo. But 507 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:51.039 he was at one point, yeah, big ball or ballow big in every 508 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.319 way, seven foot, two hundred and sixty pounds. But he transferred Indiana. 509 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.279 So all three local teams here adding players for the upcoming season, and 510 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.759 easily, you know, Indiana's got less spots to fill, whereas Kentucky and 511 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.519 Louisville. I mean you get outside of for Kentucky on the other and outside 512 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.599 of outside of Reed Shepherd, it's Jordan Brooks or Bake Jordan. It's something 513 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.319 Brooks, is it. There's a guy who trans who joined their team last 514 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.400 year from the ON three who I forget his name but he didn't play much 515 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.640 at all last year, and I'm surprised he hasn't hit the portal. But 516 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:28.839 anyways, on the football side, we'll save this for for when we get 517 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.759 back from the break, because again, I just wanted to make sure I 518 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.640 had the correct information here, because again we've had two different reporters from and 519 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:38.519 these are people who cover recruiting for on three sports in twenty for seven sports 520 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.759 that have put out information that is just not true. And I don't know 521 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.559 if well if we will ever get the full the full story as to how 522 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:53.440 this happened, but there's clearly some information being shared or I guess the source 523 00:33:54.039 --> 00:34:00.400 that is talking to various different outlets, various different reporters that either is making 524 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.599 stuff up or just hasn't, you know, incorrect information. And you know, 525 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.000 it's not a big deal because you know, Michael Gonzalez, one of 526 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.119 the best offensive linemen for Louisville, a guy who is maybe one of their 527 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.320 best players overall, one of the most valuable guys they have. He was 528 00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.719 in this report earlier today from Marcelo that you know, put put me in 529 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.280 a little bit of a panic because I'm thinking, you know, I think 530 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.239 they could live without him obviously, but I mean that would be losing like 531 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.480 one of your best players. And sure enough, like it was just completely 532 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.559 not true. So we'll get into the specifics of it on the other side. 533 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:31.119 But I do want to tell you guys about my friends over at the 534 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.920 Louisville Men's clinic because right now I know there's people listening that have probably thought 535 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.719 to themselves, you know what, my lack of energy, my you know, 536 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.039 being lethargic, just not really you know, losing my edge overall. 537 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.039 Like you probably just think, yeah, some getting older, right, you 538 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.719 know, this is this is being forty, this is being forty five, 539 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.440 whatever it may be, and you're right to an extent, but it could 540 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.920 be something that you could quickly fix. And that is about going to see 541 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.719 litule of a men's clinic and getting your testosterone levels checked, because low testosterone 542 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.440 can impact you in ways you'd never imagine. Not only can it make you 543 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.519 lethargic, it can I mean, if you ever had out of nowhere, 544 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.639 without really any change to your diet or your exercise, you start to develop 545 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.960 man boobs or something like that, it could be low testosterone and you know, 546 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.760 you think I'm joking, I'm not. Uh, it can impact your 547 00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.480 mental you know, you're you're your mental not only like mental fatigue, but 548 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.000 I mean it could it could lead to you being depressed. So testosterone levels 549 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.440 need to be at a certain level depending upon your age, and if they're 550 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.360 not there, it's not going You're not going to be in a great risk 551 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.159 of you know, something bad happening to you. Right your doctors probably won't 552 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.559 even really notice it because it's not something that's going to impact you. Uh 553 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.760 and and you know, lead you to leads you to be in the hospital 554 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.599 or kill you. But you know, I just don't think there's enough people 555 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.840 that realize that just by having your levels where they should be for someone your 556 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.599 age, it can it can just add so much to your life. And 557 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.079 that's what happened with me. So I can't recommend them enough. 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So I guess 567 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:42.039 to give you the latest on the Louisville football transfer portal situation. I don't 568 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.840 want to act as if there are some players that leave and like it's no 569 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.440 biggie, no big deal, but that's really I mean, that's how a 570 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.480 lot of this works, right. I mean, there are in fact players 571 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:58.400 that are going to transfer that just are leaving because they're not where they want 572 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.679 to be on the depth chart. Maybe they want more money, but you 573 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.239 know, and look, here's the thing. When it comes to players that 574 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:08.440 that you know, decide to to ask for more money or ask for a 575 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.400 certain level of money. You know, maybe let's say maybe you were a 576 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.440 starter last year and you were productive, and you're you're in position to be 577 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.440 a starter and you're in ale money is you know, five bucks and you 578 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.159 want ten. I mean, that's not a real number. I'm just I 579 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.880 don't even know what the going rate would be, to be honest with you, 580 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.199 you know, whoever's in charge of that. And that's this where it 581 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.199 just gets so stupid, because coaches aren't technically supposed to know and be involved 582 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.360 at all in the anile. Right. Well, I'm pretty sure they're the 583 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.440 ones who ultimately have to say so in how those resources are being used, 584 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.639 because if not, I mean, you think they're going to be out there 585 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.320 coaching guys and saying, hey, you know what did you know? It's 586 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.400 you know, it's just it's so it's a nonsense. It's so stupid how 587 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.679 this has to operate. But this is the way it is. So a 588 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.599 player may want more money, but it's just not in the budget, right. 589 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.360 It's it's not that they can't afford it. It's like, look, 590 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.760 we're going to use our money elsewhere because we just this, that's what we're 591 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.159 gonna choose to do. We think you're great, but if you choose to 592 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.519 leave, then so be it will have to go out and get somebody else. 593 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.760 And and and we're willing to do that because here's Here's where you know 594 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.559 it gets tricky, is that there's gonna be guys that enter the portal that 595 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.360 maybe don't want to leave, but they've been told that this is the best 596 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.000 that can be done for them from an nil perspective. And then they hit 597 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.519 the portal and they go check the market and see what's there. So again, 598 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.880 I don't want to just run through everybody that's in the portal. That 599 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.119 is that is, you know, big loss. He talked about Jermaine Lolay 600 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.760 yesterday. He's somebody that obviously, you know, never was really that productive 601 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.920 because he didn't play a whole lot. Here. Talented guy, but he 602 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.880 could never stay healthy. So he's on his way out. And then news 603 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.320 last night came down about Penny Boone, who is the former Toledo running back 604 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.719 who had a great couple of years at at Toledo. I believe he was 605 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.760 the MAC offensive Player of the year and I don't know where he ranked as 606 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.679 far as the newcomers that transferred in in December, but he was probably one 607 00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.000 of the top ranked guys. And Louisville clearly, you know, felt like 608 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.639 they went out and got a good running back after losing two really good ones. 609 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.159 To the draft, but they also feel pretty good about where they are. 610 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.559 You know, like, I think both things can be true. Maybe 611 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.519 Penny Boon wanted more money and that wasn't gonna happen, and it may not 612 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:21.159 happen because, to be honest with you, I mean, it wouldn't make 613 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.000 sense to give this guy more money given the fact that right now he was 614 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.599 not he wasn't really your lead running back. I mean, Donald Cheney, 615 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.039 the transfer from Miami is believed to be you know, he was, he 616 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.159 wasn't the main guy for Miami, but he was productive. He played. 617 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.480 But apparently he's really looked good in the spring, and I wouldn't be shocked 618 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.679 if he if they don't make another addition, which I know they're trying to, 619 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.760 but I wouldn't be shocked if he's one of your top ball carriers next 620 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.239 year, along with Murray's turner. And then you've got Kewan Brown, who 621 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:50.280 I know they really like. He played a little bit last year, was 622 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.840 really good in the Murray State game, which I'm not saying you can make 623 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.119 much of that. And then Isaac Brown's a freshman that they really like. 624 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.719 So they're gonna they're gonna go get more running backs. In fact, there's 625 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.400 guys that we've you know, we're already you know, it's already out there 626 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.440 that they're already talking to other backs that are in the portal. But here's 627 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.480 what I believe happened with Penny Boone. For those who don't remember, he 628 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.639 was at Maryland initially and he was not very good there, wasn't very productive, 629 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.559 didn't do a whole lot well. Then he went to Toledo, was 630 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.199 really good in the MAC, transferred to Louisville. And I'm not saying he 631 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.679 was bad and wasn't performing well. This is a guy they did not want 632 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:22.320 to lose. Trust me, this is not a guy they're like, hey, 633 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.360 see you later, we'll go get somebody else. So I don't want 634 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.400 to make it sound as if, you know, they didn't want to keep 635 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.039 the guy. But you know, he didn't do much here in the Spring 636 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.400 that would make it look as if he was going to be the lead guy. 637 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.960 At least it doesn't sound like. So that's not really that surprising, 638 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.800 given that he'd already been at the higher level before and was you know, 639 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.920 just another guy essentially. So we'll see where he ends up. You know, 640 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.320 maybe he goes elsewhere and he's a star and we'll be wishing that he 641 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.079 was here. But you know, I don't think this is somebody that you 642 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.760 just lost that like for example, Donald Cheney and Maurice Turner in my opinion, 643 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.320 and Kewan Brown maybe could probably go to Toledo and not be the MAC 644 00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.239 Offensive Player of the Year, but could probably rush for a thousand yards because 645 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.519 it's a lower level. So we'll see. Because what it comes down to 646 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.000 now is when you lose somebody, And this is so weird how it all 647 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.199 played out, because we're talking about losing a guy that never played for you. 648 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.280 But when you lose it out of the portal, now you've got to 649 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.719 go fill that spot, right, And that's where brom is always at least 650 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.239 I say always like it's been a ten year thing, but I mean so 651 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.960 far in his early time at Louisville. Regardless of where you want to look 652 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.239 at the portal as far as rankings, but if you just go look at 653 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.320 the caliber player they lose in the portal and the caliber player they bring in, 654 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.760 they bring in a lot better than what they lose. And I wouldn't 655 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.239 be shocked if they do the exact same thing right here. But have you 656 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.599 seen the Twitter accounts CFB headlines, John, I've heard you mentioned them before, 657 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:44.280 So I get them confused because there's all kinds of like college Football News 658 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.960 CFB, you know CFB Home, I think, yeah, I mean like 659 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.039 you know, Big Game Boomer. I mean, there's there's all kinds of 660 00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:58.760 anonymous Twitter accounts that are I mean fifth down college football. Yeah, like 661 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.639 just their nonsense, because it's not that you have to have you know, 662 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.840 your social Security number and a picture of your ID publicly on social media for 663 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.239 people to think you have credibility, but you have no credibility to an extent 664 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.239 whenever there's clearly no acknowledge, you no like you could be anybody and you 665 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.880 can say whatever you want and you could absolutely put any There's no hit for 666 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.519 accounts like this when they're wrong and they make stuff up because again like the 667 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.440 who's the heat falling on a non existent person? A person we don't know 668 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.400 who it is. So this this Twitter account, it's got like three thousand 669 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:35.440 followers and they've started to share information that is just from an I understand I 670 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.199 can't prove anything, but it's just not true. And that Louisville is losing 671 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:45.000 players in the portal because their quote unquote checks aren't cashing. And I don't 672 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.360 know. I mean, I don't know who knows who this person is, 673 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.039 right, I mean, I don't think it's it doesn't matter, but I 674 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:59.199 just wish Twitter wasn't like this, because it's truly the people will believe anything. 675 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.159 And that's not to say Louisville won't potentially lose players or anything like that, 676 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.920 because maybe nil money isn't as good as you know, Alabama or something. 677 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:16.840 But I think we now have very credible writers and reporters like Brandon Marcelo 678 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.559 of twenty four seven Sports, which I don't know who he got his source 679 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.400 from, but he since had to delete and really edit his article because he 680 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.119 had information that was just completely wrong. And I wouldn't be shocked if he 681 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.760 got it from a random Twitter DM. Like I don't know the guys some 682 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.519 of you. I shouldn't say that, but like, I just think it's 683 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:36.760 not take him as take him out of it. I think that's just where 684 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.880 we are right now with how people share news, you know, especially on 685 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.079 this platform. Our quick break will come back on the other side. Keep 686 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:46.480 it rolling along. Two more hours to go right here On Sports Talk seven ninety