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Hey, everyone, It's Tuesday,
April twenty six, twenty eleven, and

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you were listening to the Giant BombCast
on Ryan Davis joining me, Viney Caravella,

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I ain't no cheese eater. What
does that even mean? I don't

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need cheese, Patrick Kleppick, I'm
a rat eight cheese and bread shoe acre

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cheese stands alone as previously established.
Indeed, thank you, Omar. Little

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Jeff Gershman out on assignment. Guy's
news hat on, He's got his Newsy

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news hat. Really, he's down
in La shooting some bonus round with Jeff

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Healey, says Michael Pater Pater anyway, Y Caravella, Yeah, man,

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how was your Easter weekend? Buddy's
great? I didn't I almost forgot it

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was Eastern Yeah, get on,
Scarbrough here, I look at you.

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Your cousin's here here. Oh man, it's Easter, isn't it? Happy

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Easter? Gosh? Hiding the eggs
the sky pole before you realize what you're

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actually talking, What are you doing? Why are we? Why are you

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eating fish? Why are I skyping
with really white dresses on? Everyone?

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Why are you skyping in church?
How do you have a Wi Fi connection

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in church, it's like you're here. Uh yeah, so it was.

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It was kind of you do anything, that's right. I asked you earlier

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if you did anything easter ish or
pass over ish and yeah, and you

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said that you ate an egga bagel
on Saturday. But yeah, that's We've

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got him both one shot bam.
I thought was really really funny. I

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wanted to repeat that joke for other
people to hear it. It still plays,

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I think, so yeah, I'm
happy with it. So yeah,

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that was. That was kind of
And talk to my folks about Easter and

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you know what it means to us. And then then I played through Mortal

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Kombat. Mortal Kombat I resurrected Brad
Shoemaker. You might want to take note

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here. Yes, he's gonna spoil
the end of Mortal Combat for you.

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You really care. I'm guessing that
I could probably figure out how it ends.

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This is what you don't know.
What you get for being off the

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grid for five days. It was
worth it. I feel like I'm making

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my way through I don't know,
season two this year or video game,

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so i'd be portal too, and
Mortal Kombat didn't be so calm. Wait

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what was the season finale of season
one. I'm trying to the dragon age.

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Really. Yeah, I don't know
what else came out earlier this year.

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It's not a great cliffhanger. Is
that space it was? It was

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that was real early. I feel
like this all came out in big chunk

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and now kind of through. You're
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Yeah, I gotta get them behind
me and move on. Last week

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was so action packed for all involved, Brad, even though you were not

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here for the fucking end of the
goddamn world, sitting here waiting preview of

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the no Internet apocalypse. Yeah,
yeah, you didn't even get to seat

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any of the site down for days
upon days upon days. I was in

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a place with no internet period.
Yeah. I don't believe that, dude.

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It was exist. It's no zero
internet, no Internet portal too.

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You can actually you could go to
the lobby and get a real bad Wi

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Fi connection. Really, I didn't
even bother you were in Maico. Cool.

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What part of Mexico Colt Island of
the Gulf Side has the cheese?

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Well, judging by by Brad's magnificent
brown suit, I would say the cheese

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was you saw the suit. I
saw it was a fact. You know,

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it looked great. I thought,
I thought he weren't really well.

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I had to get sized up on
that suit. Yeah, a suit,

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and by the time it came in, they had to order another suit I

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got. I got a lot of
gem time ahead of me, especially after

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that. Oh my god. Have
you ever been to an inclusive resort?

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Uh? No, Oh my god. Yeah, they're like eight open bars

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all over the place. Yeah,
there's like a buffet open twenty hours a

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day. Did you have an open
bar in the pool? There were?

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Every pool had every in the center
of the pool, every pool a bar

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in the Pooloat over to it and
get drink. Orders drink in the pool,

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Yeah, I mean the hands drink. There's a bar in the middle

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of that. Literally they're over There
are stools underneath the water and you can

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sit on So you're in the pool, sitting at the bar and they're serving

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up I mean, okay, So
why would you leave When I was really,

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really young and I figured out what
I'm says, I pretty much never

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left. Yeah, they may dump
their drink in the pool, I hope,

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So no, you do, hope? So well, you know,

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it's Mexico. They're probably keeping that
ship highly chlorinated anyway. Yeah right,

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I got out unscathed on this trip, and several people were taken down real

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but not local bugs. I think
I had drank enough to uh eradicate un

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But yeah, I thought it was
It was a goofy suit on the on

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the groom's men. But I hope
he doesn't listen to this. But Jason

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warttwell, yeah that's good. No, no, no, that's that's the

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and that's the only one. That's
the only one that matters. That's the

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whole why. That's why you should
actually have kind of shitty like bridesmaids look

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great. Yeah, you want the
main players to look awesome. It's a

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fun looking couple like you want as
many comments about he's just christ The brides

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Mays also actually looked lovely but excellence. Well, I hope he had fun.

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That we were here flying by the
seat of our goddamn pants, just

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trying to make anything up that we
possibly could. Patrick over here was posting

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links to Google docs. Yeah,
just writing up stories like I got a

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O where to put these I got
there's no website to make them highlight of

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my career. Getting other other websites
to link to my Google docs but crediting

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it two giant bombs. Good.
It's a good way to end my first

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week. I feel like I feel
like everyone pitched in and uh and made

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last week work in light of very
meta meta media coverage. Indeed, like,

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how do you how do you provide
coverage when you have no website to

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provide coverage with quick looks of quick
looks, we figured out a way.

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That's right. We were sitting there
providing you didn't even see any of this

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show when he walked in. Was
morning here it was. I had idea

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about it even down zero, Absolutely
it was. It was insane. We

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were sitting there doing live streams of
quick looks we had recorded the day previous,

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talking over those quick looks and commenting
on what happened as we were recording

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those quick looks. It got real
bad that quick. It's funny. I

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was looking at the analytics stuff today
and that's just sad. When you see

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the traffic graph just bottom out,
literally cruising, cruising, cruising, it

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just looks like it looks like there's
a cup sitting in the middle of your

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your traffic graf, just like empty
vessel, just like, wow, really,

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nobody, nobody got it. We
had we had zero zero. Well

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at least there was like an inverse
bell going on. At least it went

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back up on the other side.
At least didn't bought them out and stay

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there. I haven't never really checked. It's only been up for like twenty

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four hours at this point, right, a little longer than that. What

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a Saturday night? Didn't it was
it Saturday? It was Friday? No,

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it was Saturday. It was it
was down all day Saturday or day

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Friday. I'm really said that I
missed this. It was Dave did like

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you know, forty eight hour telephone. Yeah, radio calls today. We

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did that end on Friday night.
He was doing it on Saturday as well,

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only for a little bit on Saturday. Yeah, he picked it back

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and he was like keep going.
Yeah. So yeah, I tried calling

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you guys on Friday on Friday and
on Friday Friday evening. Yeah, I

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was on for a minute and then
I couldn't get through him, And no,

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I call it like twice us and
just just rang and rang and rang,

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and then wow, we figure out
how to have like a voicemail or

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something on that line. You know, there are a lot of callers.

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It would be a full mailbox.
That computer would crash even more. I

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don't know if that stuff stored locally
or it probably it doesn't. No,

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it's probably all on that somewhere.
Yeah, it's easy cloud. Yea,

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hopefully on Amazons. Yeah, so
we fucking the fucking cloud told you guys,

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you did maybe because you told us
and they were just like check it

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out. Maybe it was us,
Maybe we broke the cloud. We were

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the last, like sight on the
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like, all right, we got
all this others like tested was up screened.

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Was just like you gotta get to
the core of the infection, right,

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You're peeling back layers like okay,
wasn't this damage? Okay, well

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we have getting down to it,
like what the fuck? And then it's

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just hateful black little core at the
middle of this machine that won't die.

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It is a bomb exactly, it
was, and it was dropped by Amazon.

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So uh, you know, I
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tech world here, like our engineers
have set Amazon's done well by us previously,

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and we're gonna stick around with them. But yeah, well and the

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reason that you saw so many sites
using them is because they are extremely cheap

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and other than you know, this
one instance, they have been pretty extremely

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reliable. And I guess it's not
like other huge sites weren't using them.

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Reddit was down, for Ye down, four Scars down, cors down,

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there was. Yeah, there was
a huge number of sites that that were

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affected by this whole thing. We
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longer. It's a good learning experience, certainly, And I feel like we

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still, you know, did our
good God damned us to continue providing something

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to our users even when we didn't
have a website. So that tournament,

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Man, how much fun was that? How much goddamn fun happen again?

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And that was you know that was
supposed to happen during T and T and

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right that whole thing exploded, that's
right, And yeah, it was it.

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We got to the point where,
like you started having more meltdowns and

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here was like, yeah, whatever
I find and not even not even related,

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it's not even unrelated. Don't oh
staplers broken up, can't staple anymore?

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Every yeah, yeah in the cloud. Yeah, So we had a

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really exhausting kind of end of the
week. Well, That's the thing is

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like when I would to bring it
back around. You know, Portal two

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and Mortal Kombat came out last week, but after all of last week's insanity,

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that felt like a lifetime ago,
Like it was like a month ago,

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right that Portal two and Mortal Kombat
came out, and Brad still hasn't

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finished it. Well, uh,
we we got a lot of Moral Kombat

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in last week, just all around
the board. So I jumped into it

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again this weekend. Yeah, and
uh and finished Moral Kombat the story?

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Did you bub done it? Easy? No? You finished it? I

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did finish. Get my asswhipped on
these two v ones if they are pretty

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rough, killing me, killing me, and they're killing my resolve, because

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I'll keep on getting it because you
need, like you need to win four

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rounds. Yeah, essentially in a
row. Even the early ones are tough.

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Yeah, even the early ones are
aren't real slouches. I'm still in

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the first Like I'm on the Luke
Kang stage of the first tournament, which

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I think is probably the end of
MK one' sill. I'm still I'm definitely

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still in MK one. Uh.
But they can be rough, but it's

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just what's just you have to be
so defensive. It kills me resolve because

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I'll get down to like I'll have
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guy that's down to just a little
bit of a live bar, and he

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still beats me out, and I
feel like I just expended all of this

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energy like really fighting these like I'm
really fucking fighting these guys, and and

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you know, pulling out as many
of the you know, scrubby bullshit moves

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as I know how to do with
whatever character they have to be tossing me

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in with. Well, that's also
kind of the problem too, is that

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when you get stuck on those matches
that you can't just like swap over to

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your go to guy, you know
what I mean, Like if you're still

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with the character you don't like,
yeah, like you're just you're just kind

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of stuck. But I did kind
of like that, especially when I got

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to the very very end of the
game. And uh, I don't think

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this will be a spoiler for anyone, but you fight, you fight some

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certain dudes. People have been probably
bitching about the boss m Yeah, so

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when you're finding Shao Khan, it
was really hard and so but you can

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look it up because everybody has to
fight him with the same guy, right,

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so at least you can hit the
internet and be like, dudes,

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what did you do? Like I
know you had. Anybody who beat this

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game had to beat it with a
certain guy. I heard Cohn kind of

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falls back to Mortal Kombat's Super Cheap
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this one. I feel like it's
fun to fight against, but I heard

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Cohn is literally just fuck you.
It wouldn't be a Mortal Kombat game if

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you didn't have to cheese the last
boss to beat him. Yes, So

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I just wound up cheesing shoulder thing. He does, the shoulder thing,

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he does, the kind of like
glowy invincibility thing where you were like,

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for no reason, this time you
hit him, he just shrugs it off,

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and it's like, what'd you do? Uh? So, yeah,

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I kind of wound up cheezing him
a bit and then beat him and put

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the controller down. But then I
picked it back up immediately and started with

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the Challenge Tower stuff and some of
the other stuff in there. Try playing

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against the Gary and Will and Jeff
online doing like the King of the Hill

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stuff with the connections were a little
weird to cut messing up, so it

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didn't spend for ever. The net
code is little well, so I wonder,

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like, uh, I wonder if
it is like just the net code

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is the issue, because it's definitely
something that catches blame. But there's no

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PSN right now. Yeah, still
as of this recording and probably will not

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be for several days. It seems
like that's going to continue to be the

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case. Maybe, which again that
you know this that was happening while all

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this other ship was going sideways like
down unrelated, but also all this Amazon

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EC two stuff is down. Warcraft
Warcraft went down for a couple of hours.

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It did Warcraft actually go down or
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down? Okay, So like servis, I think maybe if like you were

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already in you could keep going.
I think log in stuff. Oh yeah,

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yeah, alright, fine, I'm
never taking another vacation again. And

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like what you did, tripped over
the plug on tequila and the internet.

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of yea. So so I just
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granted, I mean you know you're
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have both at their disposal or went
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you are still hears or you could
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pre planned or if that was just
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really I didn't realize when that announcement
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yes, but I know, whatever
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to see Microsoft move that quickly.
Gotta get your cheese as an organization,

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my impression of them was not that
they were nimble to be able to do

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that. Yeah, try and get
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Yeah, freak cheddar smokers, cheddars
that you can't see that in San

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Francisco. That's not cool. We're
talking about can't eat cheese, don't Google

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eat cheese. Safe search on apparently
search down with some good Lingo dictionary.

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uncomfortable situation, you got to keep
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an image search for that term.
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for for the most for as inoculus
as uncomfortable situations sounds, you will

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find some great clip arts, some
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of uncomfortable situations if you keep the
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yes, can you log in and
play portal? No, so that

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that's actually the thing that seems to
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If you try to log into Netflix, for example, it asks you

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for your log in information, but
if you let it fail a couple of

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times, it will just bypass the
log in. You know what, It

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worked because it's not tied to your
account. It's just asking you to log

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into PlayStation network as go into this
Internet SCE. All you need for Netflix

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on a PS three is APS three
on the Netflix count. It's like there's

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no disc serviced. They're just doing
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do for Oh yeah, it's not. It's not like with Xbox live where

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it's like the only gold members as. Once the log and fails, it

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just lets you go through. You
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news stream if you have it still
turned on, is getting stuff. So

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it sounds like it is all tied
to whichever authenticating the accounts, which is

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actually a fair least scarier prospect.
I only had it fail, Like I

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tried out the Netflix thing, I
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just kicked me straight into the app. So that's good because I like the

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Netflix. On the p S three, it's good. You can still play

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Portal offline, right, but you
couldn't. You couldn't cash it in if

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you the code. All right,
but but you if you have a PS

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three disc, you can play the
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yeah absolutely absolutely yeah. I did
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portal and then they finished it and
now here's what they ending to port too

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is. But then you can't log
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it's to get to the team.
So I when I finished it on PC,

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do I if I when I can
log back in on the PSN,

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will I get those trophies? No? I think it's the only the other

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way, right, So I guess
well, I'll find out because I played

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through it with PSN down, and
then I'll find out if that will sink

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over and give me all this stuff
on Steam. I think it happens.

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Well, but it wouldn't have been
connected. Well not you, not in

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your case, but but because we
played it, we did co up on

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the little Tuesday shein dig we did
last week. Remember you were playing You're

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playing on Jeff's account on the p
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I see, I'm pretty sure I
remember, like your trophies were popping on

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the TV, but on my side
and Steam, I could see you Chef's

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account. But I'm also getting those
steams. Wondering if when it clicks back

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on, will it take all You
don't think I get trophies from playing on

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Steam? No? No, highly
definitely not to play through again. Yeah

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that's it. Yeah, it's commentary. Yeah I tried, and they were

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like, man, those things are
so long games play. Yeah, okay,

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okay, okay, are they still
Are they still doing their commentaries where

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they're just like little in the World
you have to go up and activate.

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Yeah, I kind of wish they
were. Those were just tied to I

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mean, I love the concept,
but I wish they were maybe just tied

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to like floor Suggars, just kind
of as you're walking along, So I

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just stuff would just pop in maybe
a little more naturally. Yeah, sometimes,

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but there there's like so specifically trying
to get you to look at a

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thing for them to comment on,
right like this door here. Yeah,

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although I have definitely like I haven't
gone all the way through and all of

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the dev commentary in two, but
in the first one, like you could

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miss rights. Well. Also,
maybe I might be remembering it incorrectly,

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but weren't the audio sources like positional
within the world, Like if you walked

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away from it, didn't it fade
out? I don't remember that. I

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haven't gotten that. I don't needed
to go back when I replayed it.

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I didn't put on the dev commentary
because I was stupid. But that's a

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fun game portal two. Yes,
I agree really, as it also made

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me realize that Half Life is the
only like video game fiction I actually really

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like give a shit about, Like
I actually really really like that world and

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want to know you want to read
a Half Life book? I probably would.

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That's probably the only one I can
think of it, I would actually

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go and read outside sources. I
I think Portal is why I care about

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the half Live fiction at this point. I think I think the color that

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aperture science brings to the yang of
Remember the first moment you saw that blackboard

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in Portal one and you saw like
the bar graph with black mesa under it,

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and you're just like, oh shit, this guy's know what black mesa

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is. They're in that uni Like, yeah, like that made me,

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Yeah, that totally made me care
more about half life. But yeah,

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I feel like now I feel like
I understand your pain of wanting to talk

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about stuff but you can't really say
anything. Yeah, each it is.

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It is still way too soon.
Everyone, this play can go fucking that

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one part? Yeah right, Yeah, that's it's fun. It's definitely.

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It's good. It's yeah tight.
It's a nice length too. It doesn't

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really overstay. It's welcome, but
it's much you know, it's a good

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it's a good length. Yeah,
it feels a long game and it's varied,

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which is nice. The girth is
that I'm not waited too long and

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just like, yeah, you always
do, Brad, you always do.

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And then I pushed on, think
about baseball. I pushed on through Dragon

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hits too. You're not done with
that yet? No, don't, don't

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our account our accounts. I don't
know yet. I don't. You have

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to stop talking about Dragon. I
don't even run the show, but you

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have, so every every time you
sound more and more depressed and Dragon,

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Are you just doing it just to
finish it? Now? No, Like

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I gues said, I'm still interesting. I think I must think it was

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an unconvincing argument. Well, it's
it's just, uh, it just seems

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to keep going. You have I'm
getting the stunt, so you just have

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to finish what you started. No, I like, like, I'm you

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think realistically you could just put it
down. I could for sure. Yeah,

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well well, I mean I beat
two other games in the meantime,

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so like I put it down,
spent my weekend playing more. But you

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knew you'd come back. Yeah.
I've put too much hour, too much

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time, and I think I think
I'm close. So you can't just put

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You can't walk away from lying.
I could. I would give you stop

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whatever I want. I would give
you one hundred dollars to not finish Dragon

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Age two really ever ever, ever. Ever, you can never finish Dragon

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I'll pitch money into that, all
right, So what if there's like I've

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got backers, what if there's like
awesome st gosh, I don't know.

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You can never play it and find
out. Why would you want to do

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that to me? I want to
see if you could played it on three

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seasons. No, you can never
play Dragon Age two. I could do

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it. You could never play Dragon
Age two? Can I watch somebody else?

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I kind of read a wiki.
You can read a wiki. I

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think I got the best sword in
the game. Think of all those unfinished

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done, Just think of all those
samey unfinished. Remember what if there's one

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more dungeon that you haven't seen yet? If there's the content hear the end,

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you're actually an hour from the end
of the game. Oh there's this

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great fight and all this cool original
assets comes together. That's true at all?

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They just stopped. I shouldn't have
to pay you. Well, like

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the stories, all right? Like
I said, it's okay, one hundred

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dollars next time next that's that's in
USDs. It's American. How many folds?

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Nah? You know I wouldn't take
it because you can't. I could,

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no, you couldn't. I got
I got some paces that sweetened deal.

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How many paces you talk? Yea
thousand? Fuck man, that's some

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cheddar. That's some cheese. You
can eat that cheese. Uh. I

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feel like I played something else,
But I can't think speaking of my games,

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I haven't finished it. Maybe Brad, you finished on a plane?

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Have you been late? And yet
no unund future even crack my DS open

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on this trip? Did you bring
in three ds? I didn't look at

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a screen wow with any kind except
the screen door out onto the beach.

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That that was right. Yeah,
that's a piece of business, thank you.

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Uh yea, I played more Clash
of Titan heroes magic magicians heroes you

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mean might and magic clash of heroes. Yes, really still enjoying that.

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Yeah. Uh we're able to get
over the like fuck you achievement hump.

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Actually a lot of people trying to
do in saying that you can select your

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campaign after the fact. Yeah,
back, and there's like a dungeon you

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can grind. The world has like
one place where you get random. But

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is that after the whole thing?
No? No, like anytime specifically speaking

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to the achievements, I guess you
can go back and stuff. Okay,

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you have to exit out of your
game pick, but that works in PERP

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too, right, you can always
go back to whatever. So like,

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I don't understand. I haven't tried
it, but I guess you can go

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back in there, fight your way
and grind it out a bit and then

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save it and then exit and be
able to pick up where you were last

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time, because you're basically re entering
a completed job, different with a different

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character, right, with an an
independent level. I don't know. I

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haven't tried it. May i'll try
it. I don't there there's enough people

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that said there's a way to do
it. Yeah cool, so yeah,

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then want to check that out again. But man, of the achievements are

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still rough. But I don't care
that the gameplay is fun. Yeah that

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game is a hell of a value. Yeah that's like that's gotta be.

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I mean, granted it has retail
roots on the DS, you know,

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sold in a box. Have you
seen the DS graphics? But yeah,

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I saw comparison to check it out. Oh yeah, it's it's crazy.

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It was in the Neo Gap thread
last week, like they win and like

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redid everything in that game. It's
it's impressive. It's not up as it's

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like that explains the gap because that
game came out in what like nine on

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the DS, like a long long
time year and a half year and a

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half at least. Yeah, that
has to be wise. So it's not

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even like, oh, we had
these high raised art assets that we were

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working from completely. Characters are in
different poses and everything. Oh wow,

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crazy. The units look they're way
more cartoony and like, you know,

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the bears look like little little baby
bears. Yeah, it's kind of bananas.

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So yeah, that it cames just
long, it'll take you a while,

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it's sure, sure does. Yeah, it's I mean I think I'm

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in like twelve hours or nine nine, ten hours? Oh wait, And

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and in Portal two, you only
did the single player. You haven't touched

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the cooperative play yet. No going
to though. It's kind of waiting to

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get through that single player before.
And I wasn't sure how the narrative stuff

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worked, so I wouldn't sure if
stuff would I will spoil this, Yeah,

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I don't think it does, right, Uh, you might as well

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wait though, Yeah, although I
Steven Tatillo from Kataku has been talking about

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how he's recommending folks play the co
op first, and I was, yeah,

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which is which people have been I
think understandably yell at at him about

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it like you are crazy, and
I tend to agree with him. I

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mean, is it positioned chronologically as
like a prequel or something. Don't talk

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about it, yeah, I just
don't say anything. Just mouth shot too

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early. Yea, I shouldn't fair
enough. If you want to know,

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go listen to the Portatoo spoiler cast. I just go play the game.

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And that was I think that was
pretty much it from listen that spoiler cast.

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If I'm gonna go listen to the
spoiler cast, you can listen to

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the spoiler cast. There's spiders Spider
Man in here. Damn it, Brads

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point spiders. It's gonna fall on
my hair. I biter and my hair

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once. How could you find it? Who says he still in the family.

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I shook it out. It turns
out. It turns out Patrick's actually

407
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.359
bald. What are you doing this
thing? He's gonna man, He's gonna

408
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:26.279
try and this is unprecedented. He's
just gonna kill this little leather bound note.

409
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.559
You know, I couldn't find moleskins
anymore, and people people like stopped

410
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.599
carrying them because oh well, I
guess I always buy them at Borders,

411
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.759
which are frequently going out of business. Oh yeahs anymore. I just went

412
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:44.480
to a Borders that was I was
trying to buy a movie, so fuck

413
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.160
you Borders. People said something like
they're totally environmentally devastating or something. Yeah

414
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.319
like that. They they cure the
leather and like one vat and then dump

415
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.839
that vat into like the seat or
something like that. I don't something crazy,

416
00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.279
only bikes. I like the size. I like him. I like

417
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:07.119
a good mole skin to wrap my
cheese around it. Note Padstad call it

418
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.759
like a marble mole skin. I
believe. No, I know it's a

419
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.079
it's a it's a brand, but
like, what is it about the brand

420
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:19.039
that like other Nope, it's elitist. Hemingway uses him. Oh yeah,

421
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.519
he used he uses him. He's
dead. What's he got bit by a

422
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:29.519
spider? Bill Hemingway, Yes,
Jimmy Hemingway. Yeah. Forward for there

423
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.000
looking up at that spider body the
rest podcast, because I just think it's

424
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.839
gonna fall in. Uh, let's
move on because I'm done now. Marked

425
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:42.160
this white room, the blood of
the spider, this pristine room, I'd

426
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.640
say it was pristine, just white. That's all you played, star,

427
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.880
I think, so all right?
Moving on Patrick Kleff, Well, I

428
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:53.200
wish I could play Portal two kop
but PSN is down. But I guess,

429
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.119
well it's got split screen, yeah
on this PS three one. It

430
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.359
does on the three sixties, so
I would imagine I would have it on

431
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.359
the play Stage three as well.
That is the best console version, so

432
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.160
says Valve. I wonder, I
wonder if girlfriend friendly and I believe it,

433
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.599
Yeah, I mean Gabe said that, yeah, like at a Sony

434
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:15.279
first conference. Yeah, in credible
place. But I saw some screenshot comparisons

435
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.759
online that made it look The p
S three version looks strikingly better. I

436
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.599
mean it looks nice. I mean, yeah, I played that little bit

437
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.359
of the p S three version.
We were like last Tuesday, but I

438
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.519
spend do you want to see it
on a PC? Now? So good?

439
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.480
It does look really nice of PC. It doesn't feel like I did

440
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.759
it the right way beat on the
PS three And then I'll go and play

441
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.039
it on someone's PC just to see
what I missed. Right then, feeling

442
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.640
sad when I like, oh now
all right, we can't talk about portal.

443
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.119
No, uh oh, I got. I bought a crapload of games

444
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.640
because there were the Eastern iOS sale. That's on my iPad. Well about

445
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:56.400
that space, Yeah, that's good. I bought the iPad port of Max

446
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.519
and the Magic Marker, which is
a we wear game from like a year

447
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.400
ago. It's like your play us
a little dou and use the Wimo to

448
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.440
draw objects to like mess around with
the physics and the environment. But every

449
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.200
time I played it on the Wii, it made more sense if I could

450
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.039
touch it. So now it's on
the iPad and it was a buck,

451
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.759
but now it's probably like five bucks, which really is not that much money.

452
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
was a little wonky because it's fun

453
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.000
to draw the objects, but you
still have to press, you know,

454
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:23.880
touch buttons on the screen to move
left to right and to jump, and

455
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:30.359
that stuff doesn't work really well when
you have to press buttons. Nothing.

456
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:38.680
I'm just making clandestine messaging with people. That's all I'm doing. Work over

457
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.720
here, that's all. Ooze.
I bought Uzu this weekend for no good

458
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.960
reason. Crazy Visualize you have a
good reason, said something about cats.

459
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:48.880
Oh yeah, I was at a
house where there are cats and I wanted

460
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.640
to make the cats freak out.
It does ten finger multi touch, so

461
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.400
like you do this and you can
actually change the like the color palette when

462
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.319
you move your hands around. It's
great thing to talk about on a podcast.

463
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.880
Is this visualize so you can see
it's making like the lines fatter of

464
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:11.240
thin are gonna vet super thin?
Is something, isn't it? If he

465
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.039
used to, you can just like
make them going to the little balloo ball

466
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.119
around and yeah, it's I mean
it's a toy, but it's such.

467
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.599
It's a fun toy. No like
your screen saver. Thank you. Yeah,

468
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:23.640
let's see. I then I played, I put like three hours of

469
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.519
Monster Tail, that game from the
Henry Hatsworth guy. Yeah we quick look

470
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.839
at that. Yeah, look,
I looked really awesome. It look pretty.

471
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.559
I understand in fact that it looks
awesome. Dot dot dot awesome.

472
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:41.599
It has it has an unfortunately terribly
generic title, but it's it's us.

473
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.519
It's like Henry Hatsworth. It uses
like a really interesting use of the two

474
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.839
screens, like very very few games
on the DS actually use the second screen

475
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.480
for like any anything interesting. Giant
button. Also, it was like a

476
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.960
cross between something and cave storys totally. It's like Metro with Pokemon. Yeah,

477
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.640
because like you're you you like,
yeah, you've got your little creature

478
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.960
on the second screen and you're Pizza. Yeah. You're using these items to

479
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:08.319
level them up and give them do
abilities, and then you're kind of going

480
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.400
through a skill tree based on that, and on the top screen you're doing

481
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.640
like, you know, a really
beautiful looking like two D action platform or

482
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.799
just like Henry Hatsworth. I think
I liked Henry hats Worth more because I

483
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:25.160
just liked playing it was like a
variation of Tetris attack on the second screen,

484
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.519
which was which was Henry Hatsworth.
Did all of you play Henry Hatsworth

485
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.839
did? Not? Really? Unfortunate
my favorite, like my favorite game from

486
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.440
two thousand nins. Just I kept
hearing that it got so abusive as you

487
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.079
went on, But that's like the
four hours in the game. It's worth

488
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.759
playing. It gets it does,
Yeah, it does get shitty. There's

489
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.200
specifically adding it's the third level boss. It's like the underwater one. Yes,

490
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.519
some fat lady, Yes, Yeah, I persevere and I beat that.

491
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.680
Uh well, I mean it's only
gets more difficult after that. I

492
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.000
felt like that game like I'd love
all of the ideas, but the actual

493
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.519
it's very overwhelming. Well it's actual
back and forth between mean the like platforming

494
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.519
stuff and then going into the puzzle
game stuff, like I felt like it

495
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:12.279
never had it can never find any
momentum because there there was this like very

496
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.559
intrinsic start, stop to the to
the two types of action which is the

497
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.400
opposite and monster tail because they kind
of get rid of you having to actually

498
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.279
do anything on the second Like it's
there, but all you have to do

499
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.039
is when you've you've got your items, you're collecting, is you're running around

500
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.680
and all I have to do is
use your I was using your thumbs.

501
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.079
You don't actually have to like put
your hand down and grab the stylus and

502
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.880
just direct your monster over to the
items, rather than having to go participate

503
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.640
in a whole second game on the
second screen, which kind of disrupts.

504
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:38.839
And that's like your platforming flow,
and that's super tough when you have a

505
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.119
game where the two mechanics are one
of them is all right, run around

506
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.079
with the dpad and buttons and then
all right, stop and now go to

507
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.480
stylus. So that's you know,
you're never entirely comfortable in one or the

508
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.319
other. It doesn't work one hundred
percent because that screen is just not responsive

509
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.720
enough, Like it's just a finger
for a finger, Like it's it's not

510
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.039
like an iPhone or I pad where
it's gonna respond to every touch. You

511
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.559
kind of got to, like the
film att it a couple of times.

512
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.359
But it's a lot of fun.
I kind of I kind of had that

513
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.759
problem with with a commie den on
the on the DS, so you were

514
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.000
trying to touch it rather than getting
your stylist. This thing had to add

515
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.480
the stylist out, so it was
like, Okay, I'm running around the

516
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.119
world using regular controls and then you
know, switch over to the other way.

517
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.920
I just I want you to commit. I want I want this either

518
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.599
to be a styliss game or a
not styliss game. Yeah, you know,

519
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.440
anything else here? What was the
name of the game again? Monster

520
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:34.559
Tail? Monster Tail? Dream riffed
you play on? What had I had

521
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.000
it shoved in my DS light because
I had forgotten like, yeah, well

522
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.960
I've forgotten my my power chord somewhere, but I it's in my three DS

523
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.240
now because I just play it like
when I'm competing for like the twenty minutes

524
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.839
on the on the bart. Uh. But yeah, that my three DS

525
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.200
battery seems to be getting worse and
worse. I can't tell that's just like

526
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.400
actually happening or I'm just noticing it
more because I just don't open it and

527
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.799
then it just dies on me like
two days later. It doesn't. That

528
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.559
game scales pretty well, like it's
got pixel art, So the pixel art

529
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.360
looks a little bit better than some
of the three D stuff. Is that

530
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.719
kind of where where people have seen
the shake out where it's like the the

531
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.360
I think it's game to games judgment
was the opposite, but I tried all

532
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.880
of two games, so I think
it really just depends. Some of the

533
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.920
art styles look fine, some of
them look kind of shitty. I hope

534
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.800
maybe in a software update they could
just like provide you with more options for

535
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.599
how it's interpret present the game and
and sort of tweak it. So,

536
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.239
well, let's let's walk before we
can run. Just let's get the shop

537
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.920
going first. Yeah, let's get
the website so you can download your Mega

538
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.280
Man Legends prototype version. Let's let's
get the fundamental functionality. There are like

539
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.679
three items on the main interface where
it's like touches like, yeah, it

540
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.400
doesn't work yet, just give us
a minute. No, hold, just

541
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.440
just hold on, okay, just
late late May. We'll get we'll get

542
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.239
you. We got you. But
it's in three D. Yeah, not

543
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.320
down here though. You gotta look
up there and it's a three D.

544
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.920
It's that looking down. Yeah,
I gotta go lay down. Can't touch

545
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.239
the three D. Just stop trying. Maybe you'll forget about this other stuff.

546
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.519
And Brad didn't play anything. He
don't know I did. I did

547
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:16.679
some paintball in the jungle, really
like a hundred degrees jungle. It was

548
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.360
pretty rough. You want do you
want to know about donkey show? Ye?

549
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.199
What else? No? Yeah,
no show. We didn't actually go,

550
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.840
but there was I didn't think even
existed there, but there was definitely

551
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.480
a moment where some ill business was
getting gotten up to. Certainly, please

552
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:43.760
tell me witness when we got in
a taxi cab and someone said, suddenly

553
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.239
things seemed to be looking up,
but it didn't actually turn out. I

554
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.039
would say that things are spiraling wildly
out of control. Roll out of there.

555
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.480
You're like, no, fuck you
guys, No, they're only eight

556
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.960
people in that cabin. We were
only about half of them knew what was

557
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:04.039
actually going on. Nobody could quite
seem to decide or maybe admit if they

558
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.920
were actually excited about the prospect.
It's a bunch of Oh you don't want

559
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:15.400
to admit if you are, it's
a hell of a story. Yeah yeah

560
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:21.480
I could. Yeah, no,
no, no, maybe we're just under

561
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:22.960
strict orders as long as we didn't
disfigure the groom's face. You know,

562
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.559
I don't think it was pretty much
fair game. Uh, you're just caving

563
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.400
away in Mexico for for other Americanos
to head down there. Very possible,

564
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:38.239
very possibly. There's a list of
people heading back down to Mexico. Johnny

565
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.760
V's down there this week. Oh
no, really he's talking about I read

566
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.559
it. I read it off Adams
Twitter, and oh that's right, Johnny

567
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.840
found out. I'm not going to
that. Yeah, where are they going?

568
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.679
Uh yeah, let's not. Let's
not divulge that. You could build,

569
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.280
you could bleep them. It's not
gonna say where they're going. I

570
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.440
don't know. I don't know where
they're going. Somewhere in Mexico, alright,

571
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.599
moving on some sort of resort towny
type thing somewhere. I'm sure it's

572
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.920
what you're doing. That's right,
nice old resort. Wherever there are pools

573
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.440
with bars, that's right. And
then I'm sure there will be pools with

574
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.840
bars. And actually they were talking
about like a house nearby or something.

575
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.639
So I mean, at some point
you can't tell somebody to please just bear

576
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.559
with me. Get on this plane. Stop asking questions. Where we Adam,

577
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.079
where are we going? Just just
trust me? No, no,

578
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.480
no, And it was at that
point you have to see, I got

579
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.360
this ticket from Mexico, Adam,
what's going on? I specifically blew someone

580
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.760
else's bachelor party surprise, because I
thought that person knew that it was happening

581
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:42.199
already, and so I was all
like, hey, man, have fun

582
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.639
in Tahoe, and he like turned
to his friends, we're going to and

583
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.320
I was like, oh god,
damn it, I was. I was,

584
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.480
you know what, I was surprised
because it was Craiku Yava. It

585
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.039
was Craiku Yava's bachelor party that I
blew in front of Adam, and so

586
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.239
I thought, like, you know, eves were coming forthwith with because I

587
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.719
thought it was just gonna get burgered
to death for that one. But that

588
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.000
didn't happen, so thank god.
Well, Hopefully I'll check with you after

589
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.079
this podcast, but I think Cat's
out of the bag. No, No,

590
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:15.480
you're right. I think you're right. I think you're right. I

591
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.039
think you're right. So good best
of luxA, Johnny V. Yeah,

592
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:21.480
and uh call up Brad if you
haven't any want to know where some good

593
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.599
action is down to be. No, No, they're in a different they're

594
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.719
deffinitely. I know you're just being
funny. What's that? You're just being

595
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.440
funny? But they're still a farwer
A way out of Mexico is a small

596
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:36.159
place I've never been. You've never
been to Mexico. I've never been to

597
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:42.199
Canada, not even Niagara Falls.
Why would I go to Niagara, California.

598
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.440
I've never been to China. I've
been to Chinatown, Yeah, close

599
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.880
enough in New York. No,
I haven't been. I haven't been to

600
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.280
New York City since I was.
There's a Chinatown. There's Chinatown like Ohio.

601
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.599
No, you don't and nowhere in
the well, I mean I don't.

602
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.159
I don't think there is a town
called Chinatown, you know, I

603
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:08.159
don't think you go to Chinatown Chintown, USA. You go to Google maps

604
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:14.119
and I bet you get San Franco. I bet it's location basically get San

605
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.079
Francisco. Yeah, I don't know
who knows the mystery forever who has the

606
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.440
better Chinatown. I know you're gonna
say New York. No, you know,

607
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.000
I think San Francisco Chinatown. Really
yeah, it's like, is that's

608
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:30.480
kind of definitive chinatowntown. I frankly
think that Clement Street is more Chinatown than

609
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.400
Chinatown. Oh yeah, I mean
Chinatown in a way is not China's little

610
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.599
novelty Chinatown. It's like tourist Chinatown. It kind of is like but if

611
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.599
it's and I don't know, Clement
Streets where you can just go haggle over

612
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.000
like ducks, roasted ducks hanging in
the window. I think you could do

613
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.239
that. You can do that China. That's all you do out there.

614
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.000
Yan Francisco is a pretty big Chinatown. Like this is a huge Chinese population

615
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.599
in all of San Francisco. So
I mean that's just I mean, that's

616
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.920
that's China. Burbs is really what
street is Like, Yeah, there's a

617
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:07.679
density of of you know, of
Chinatown, but you'll get just more China

618
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:13.239
you go out to the burbs,
so it's more spread out. You know,

619
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.320
let's less souvenirs and stuff more just
like every day. Sure, there

620
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:22.079
are still plenty of bullshit shops every
street. If you need random Chinese goods,

621
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.480
quite right, it's a bag of
random change. Here's twenty bucks.

622
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.880
If you need, you need like
plastic backpacks and folding chairs and a couple

623
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.199
of waving cats, and boxes of
pins, and mop and a mop and

624
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.880
a sword and this this or a
plastic sword, both a real sword and

625
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.119
a plastic sword. Yeah. If
you need some cleaning supplies, you say,

626
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.760
giants kimono, giants apparel, you
need a Yeah, you need some

627
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.119
giants apparel. You need an alarm
clock, set of ornamental teacups, and

628
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.719
is this all in my twenty gift
bag? That's probably like five so far.

629
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.079
Keep going. You need like very
tiny shoes, you mean, like

630
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.280
like like novelty, like like like
baby shoes, like baby shoes they have.

631
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:15.280
Yeah, there's They're just the shops
where it's like fucking anything and everything

632
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:16.519
that you could possibly imagine, whatever
we could get our hands on. We're

633
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.599
a bunch of trucks tipped over exactly
this stuff in a store. Toilet paper,

634
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.719
Yeah, a bunch of blouses,
some some questionably stuff kids toys like

635
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.960
full of that, like beaty you
might, but you're not misspelled. Coloring

636
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:39.400
books off brand, spider Man comics
and stuff, spider Man, you know,

637
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.599
spader Man, video games, everyone's
favorite video games. Gosh, I

638
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:52.639
played some video games. I play
oh Portal two like three times, like

639
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.039
two and a half. Yeah,
like like two and a half times.

640
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.800
We just played a little bit of
the next big thing. We did,

641
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.519
just play a little bit cool thing. Yeah. It seems like a very

642
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:07.239
traditional point and quick Yeah, yeah, I think so. I believe they're

643
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.920
French from what I saw. It's
really runaway guys, right, Yeah,

644
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.199
are the Eastern European. No,
they're either French or Spanish. Oh wait,

645
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.039
maybe they're Spanish. It might be
Spanish. Non American. Yeah,

646
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:27.039
some sort of European, but some
decent dialogues. Still snappy, yes,

647
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:32.480
despite the non nativeness of it.
But very very very traditional in the like

648
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.920
you're got a pixel hunt, like
not in that way, but in the

649
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:44.360
like going to go through a lot
of like just not like the streamline,

650
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.920
kick back and relax and but I
mean it's it's sort of you're right,

651
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.800
it's not a streamline, but there's
something to be said for like, all

652
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.480
right, dude, just chill the
funk out for a second and enjoy the

653
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.480
conversation. Well, and and I
feel like they were really, at least

654
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.320
in the early going in that game, they're really bring a lot of information

655
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.800
about the setting in the context because
it's a setup. So it's kind of

656
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:12.440
like a Golden Age of Hollywood where
monster movies are extremely popular, except that

657
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.320
monsters are real. This sounds awesome, So they're like, it's all happened.

658
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.079
It all starts at this, but
yeah, so it's like the yeah,

659
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.039
you know, the monsters are the
stars pretty much. They're trying to

660
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.719
get well, they have certain amounts, so there's some monsterism and so there's

661
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.320
some monsters that's happening, and you're
playing as this reporter who might be a

662
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.440
little crazy but kind of how that
is coming a little bit off, Like

663
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:42.159
it's just kind of a lot of
personality. Yeah, sometimes we didn't get

664
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.400
very far, but but it's the
kind of thing where it's like you're like,

665
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.000
that was weird. That's kind of
random, but it happens again.

666
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.239
You're like, Okay, you're you're
building something here, and like I like

667
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.119
that. I like it when it
when it doesn't just like here's everything that's

668
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.519
happening right up front, Like it
was kind of teasing out some stuff like

669
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.280
we're gonna keep calling back to this
one Joe over and over again, and

670
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.800
you know, stuff is gonna eventually
make some more sense. So I found

671
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.880
I found it initially intrigued for sure, what else play? It's just so

672
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.840
much MK. Yeah, it just
it's kind of tired after the tournament and

673
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.719
hearing the game all day. I
kind of needed like a like a break.

674
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.639
That was what the weekend was for. Yeah, that was your no

675
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.679
m K zone, okay zone.
But now I'm ready to get back into

676
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.599
it that. I just want to
say again that that tournament was so much

677
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.280
goddamn fun to participate in. It
was good match. Have to throw that

678
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.079
funt against Gary to get back in
the control room. Yeah, you know

679
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.199
we I may have when I initially
made those brackets. You know, I

680
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.639
didn't think about the implications of both
you and myself and Drew and Drew All

681
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.079
being in it when we were going
to it was fun. He beat me

682
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.519
fair and square televise it that way. What would I have done if I

683
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.960
had been here? You wouldn't have
been in the scrub lag you would have

684
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.000
placed out, you would have down
commentary with Jeff probably yeah, okay,

685
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.239
Yeah, for Jeff, he just
had to sit there and not play.

686
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.960
I think he well, he wound
up playing the winner of this one,

687
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.199
which is a smoke on smoke metal
where you had no idea what was going

688
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.039
on. I don't know how they
knew, yeah what was and I was

689
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:13.480
and I was like loan commentator at
that point. I'm like, I'm just

690
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.320
gonna put the mic because I really
can't tell. And the mass came down

691
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.519
to like a sliver of life between
the two close alexis you Yeah, Brad,

692
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.960
you played a little bit against him
earlier. He's got a little bit

693
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.760
of skill. Yeah, he knows
what he's doing. If I learned anything

694
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.639
from that, that term is that
if you know how to use those teleporting

695
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.719
guys, yeah, that will get
and you don't you don't and you don't

696
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.480
know how to there's a lot if
you don't use. There isn't abnormally high

697
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.280
number of teleports in the New Mortal
Kombat. There is a lot of characters.

698
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.519
Notice the Ninjas, not even just
the Ninjas, though there's a lot.

699
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.079
There's a lot of teleports, especially
if you count like teleports that sort

700
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.440
of make you come in from another
part of the screen, not just like

701
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.159
disappear reappear, but like says Malinas, drop kick or whatever, like dude

702
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.079
character and all those prey upon if
you don't use block, Like, if

703
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.000
you aren't using block, they're gonna
get you everything because if you if you

704
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.920
block those, that's a significant window
to to take advantage. But if you're

705
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.199
not learning block, then screwed.
But it was fun just having everyone in

706
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.639
the office super excited about about playing
some MK and I guess it wasn't really

707
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.159
happened since Street Fighter four. Getting
the this is this was way bigger.

708
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.840
This was way bigger because there are
way more people accessible, We're interested in

709
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.519
it, uh from at least you
know, within the office here of non

710
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.840
fighting game fans uh. And then
getting the you know, the the betting

711
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.840
brackets, the betting pool up and
getting people invested in that sum I thought

712
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.400
was fun. And an initial upset
where I took out Alex, everyone was

713
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.400
very it was nothing but upsets.
The entiretia, the entire bracket, just

714
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.360
like I knocked Coots out and everyone
was sure Coots was gonna take it.

715
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.320
He was the Odds on the Far
Away and he was. He was practicing

716
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.599
that Katana all day and I was
scared because Katana is it's a It's a

717
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.880
tough one if you aren't using your
blocks. But music come out. That

718
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.239
was fun. That was damn fun. Ye get used the mic and all

719
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.239
that other dumb stuff that we did. Did you play anything else? Oh

720
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:14.199
god, I'm trying to say I
played some h Did you actually play dead

721
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.840
Space? You just download it?
I just do it was a dollar Keep

722
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:23.800
playing words with friends, I don't
know. Keep buying games on my iPad

723
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.559
and not playing, not really not
really playing them. That's the problem with

724
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.519
dollar things. Oh yeah, yeah, I hear, that's good enough.

725
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.039
Yeah, I throw a dollar at
dead Space whatever. Never mind, I

726
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.239
still have dead Space at dead Space
to fucking motion. That is funny that

727
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.440
you bought dead Space, I guess. So. Yeah, that's a little

728
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.920
weird. I've bought Metro twenty thirty
three this morning. Yeah, that woke

729
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:52.039
up. I love that game.
I need to go check it out.

730
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.760
Ghost Train, I say, I
don't know what that means. I want

731
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:01.519
to bullets for money. One of
my favorite moments from that year. Yeah,

732
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.280
so I'm excited. Maybe next week
here a little bit of that about

733
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.480
that. Yeah, don't don't don't
put that game. Don't put that game

734
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:14.320
on hard or anything. Rageted down. I should finish fall Out before I

735
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:19.280
finish that anyway. Veto short isn't
You didn't finished New Vegas? No,

736
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.480
I never did. That's a good
finish too, I know it's all I

737
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.199
can factor that. Games like fucking
all about the finish. See what happens

738
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.719
when you cheat? Yeah, you're
yourself. Yeah, oh I forgot You

739
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.480
cheated? What I forgot that?
You cheated your way through? What did

740
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.559
you do? I didn't finish it, so I didn't choot my way through.

741
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.079
I opened up the console. I
gave myself some stuff. Don't shake

742
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.320
your head whatever, I didn't finish
the game. You should do that in

743
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.039
Dragon Age open up the console.
Yeah you really do. Yeah, but

744
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.960
you gotta you gotta which we call
you gotta do like a separate you know,

745
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.320
short cut to enable the console.
That's too much work for me.

746
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.480
I don't want to do that.
Instead, you'll just played sixty five hours

747
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.280
of the game and hate yourself.
Whatever, Dragon Age, I don't let

748
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.480
up Dragon age, have the dog's
eyes on the side of its head,

749
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.159
or I'm not clipping into a mountain. There's other problems. There's no mountain

750
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.000
that came from that. That's right, it did. It totally did.

751
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:20.000
Because you'd rather have like polished mediocrity
than flood brilliance. Yes, no,

752
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.679
I'm not saying one is better than
the other. I'm saying I was able

753
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.360
to tune and fall out to compensate
for that. There's no there's no adding

754
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.639
content to There's no there's no drop
down command for make more dungeons. This

755
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.880
was a new wallpaper on this dungeons. Some of these textures just take the

756
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.760
fallow textures. Bred you finished Fallow
up Vegas. I didn't really start it,

757
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.079
fired it up on the PC.
You just see what it looked like.

758
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.199
Okay, I finished that. He
really felt like going to the DLC

759
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:51.360
though, deal he's terrible. Was
it only dead money? So it was?

760
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.239
It was really bad at ghosts in
it? Right? Yes, basically

761
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.559
basically yeah, I'll wait for the
new DEALC. When I was done,

762
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.119
I was like unlike followed three,
where I was like, I'm I'm in.

763
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.480
I want to play another thirty hours
Like New Vegas. I was just

764
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.760
I'm done with these combat mechanics.
Well, so I mean I had to

765
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.480
my again, like I had very
little in the way of glitches, and

766
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.639
I had my game tuned in such
a way that I didn't have to do

767
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.239
that much fighting. Like that's what
I mean. Like I enjoyed it,

768
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.800
but as like I like, I
shouldn't be enjoying the other parts of this

769
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.280
game more if like these mechanics were
part of like an actual sequel rather than

770
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.800
just like a story expansion. Yeah, I mean I thought this, but

771
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:34.000
I thought the story was really good. Next weekend and you went through and

772
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.239
got all the different endings of that, because did you. Yeah, I

773
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.320
had I had a Yeah, it
doesn't lock you in like pretty early on,

774
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.159
no, not like not like I
mean, I had to roll back

775
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.079
a couple of hours. But it's
not too bad. But it's not the

776
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.559
same way as like Fallout three was, as far as you can put off

777
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.800
those choices to like way way way
later. That's also and then you just

778
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:58.079
save and then you've got like three
hours you have to go through again.

779
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:00.920
Yeah, only only like probably half
hour if you just pump everything up,

780
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.400
probably give yourself all the best guns
and warps to the place you gotta go.

781
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.079
But this's the thing, is like
that game, it isn't hard.

782
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.280
It's not like I was like,
once you've got all the dialogue. It's

783
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.960
just kind of like I said,
I don't have to combat or I'll die

784
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.039
with those two side guys. Yeah, you just walk through the game you

785
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.559
got. When you've got your two
homies with you and they're you know,

786
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.199
well rested and well armed, you
barely have to fight. The only thing,

787
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.199
the only thing I'd use the console
for it, in all honesty,

788
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:32.119
was lockpicking, putting on my lockpick
skull because I hate I hate when shit's

789
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.639
locked and I can't get in.
Don't like your three points off. Yeah,

790
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:38.599
it's like, well like you never, you're never gonna go back.

791
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:43.000
Never, You're not gonna go back. And and then I did use it

792
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.239
for a couple of times, just
warp around like a goddamn fucking mountain because

793
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.000
I was like, I can't I
don't know what They did have a count's

794
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.599
in New Vegas where I just didn't
know how to get to the location,

795
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.280
and I spent twenty minutes just like
traversing mountain climbing. Basic three was way

796
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.480
worse about that. I never had
a problem with that and fall, So

797
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:05.239
it's kind of one when you're just
like no clip both inside those mountains.

798
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.400
Uh, that's where they hide all
the rest of the glitches. It's a

799
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.599
it's fucking talent there. You don't
want to start people with heads on upside.

800
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.559
It's just another realms whipping people and
like people with arms on their heads.

801
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.719
It's crazy and I love I still
every time Scorpion comes into or exits

802
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.880
a room in Mortal Kombats in the
main story is so fucking funny to me.

803
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.000
I'm so glad I got all that
backstory filled in now, at least

804
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:34.559
in the new one, I feel
like I'm up to date. I don't

805
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.119
know, I don't know if backstory
is the right word for that mythology,

806
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:43.719
mythological basis foundation. None of it
was written back then, though, like

807
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.639
they contrived so much stuff for the
story mode. They just like characters are

808
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:51.000
in places they shouldn't because they didn't
exist at that point and like a bunch

809
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.760
of weird But even then they kind
of like when they introduced like Kung Lao,

810
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.960
they don't justify it, but they
almost imply that, yeah, that

811
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:00.360
guy was there, You just didn't
get to some of those games. Yeah,

812
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.960
they're like you roll into the first
tournament like Quanji is just hanging out.

813
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.920
Yeah like that. I think it's
it's close enough, not accurate,

814
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.559
but they've but they've been rich.
There's no timeline, and they've also been

815
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.280
rewriting that timeline every time they fucking
make a new game. I guess we

816
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:20.679
need a new reason for a tournament. Yet it's made it the last one.

817
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.079
We're gonna make more. There's new
Elder Gods, Elder gods too.

818
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.840
They're from there, but they're from
the Elder God realm. So inside where

819
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.840
the Elder gods are from, why
they made war gods, there's another realm.

820
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.719
I mean, they do a pretty
good job making that stuff seem Yeah.

821
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:36.119
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's
not a coherent storyline. It's just

822
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:42.679
horribly inaccurate. It's the rich tapestry
of Mortal Kombat fiction. You say,

823
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.880
you're saying it's not historically accurate.
It is exactly. This is an interpretation

824
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:51.639
of the story. So you don't
think fucking based on reimagining. I think

825
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:57.639
sub Zero and Scorpion are super fucking
old. Sure, there's like three sub

826
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.719
zeros in that and the yeah,
that's always been the Oh really, there's

827
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.719
always a zillion sub series. I
didn't know Nube was a sub zero that.

828
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.280
I think that happened way later.
That happened after that, dude,

829
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.159
that's like three games old. But
yeah, happened. It happened way after

830
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:19.920
I checked out. But they have
stated that in the past after three it

831
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.360
was No, it was way later
than that. It was like somewhere on

832
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:24.119
the PS two Xbox. I think. I think most of that stuff is

833
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:30.000
drawn from let's just let's use Brad's
where it's the tapestry, right, the

834
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.400
threads of the moral comment, you
know, like Jeff was saying last week,

835
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.320
all that story stuff previously was three
lines at the bottom of an unattract

836
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:43.280
screen on Arcade Cabinet, Like it's
just justification to have a character not necessarily

837
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.239
storyline, right right. It is
kind of funny though, at the end

838
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.840
of of MK nine, I guess
it leads, right. I only know

839
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.320
this from what you guys were doing
with the other Moratal Kombat games in the

840
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.800
lead up, like the really bad
ones. I guess the deception and yeah,

841
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:05.599
I guess it picks up right at
the end of three. I guess

842
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.199
when you what were we doing on
Wednesday? What game were we playing?

843
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.880
Remember Wednesday week? Yeah, it
was a Shallon Monks. No, that

844
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:20.840
was on Fridriday was Salon Monks Man. It still looks shell remarkably good game.

845
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.360
I think that game not on XBLA
and PSN midway doesn't exist. Time

846
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.559
against you man, find a way, find a way, all rights,

847
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:38.199
good fun. I also played some
dusted off some Assassin's Creed Brotherhood Man for

848
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.480
the Da Vinci stuff. Yeah,
for the Da Vinci stuff. I still

849
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:46.679
need to get me good. The
delC were the first It's is not this

850
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:52.039
is better than that, It's it's
it's bigger and has more kind of story

851
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:58.159
hooks to it. Visit like worth, but I keep I'm definitely running into

852
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:00.519
more of like one of the things
that I felt like they did a really

853
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:05.239
good job of kind of tamping down
in Brotherhood that that was more annoying and

854
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.280
Assassis. Creed and Assassi created two
which were like hard past fail conditions for

855
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.440
the missions that you're on. Like
I felt like in Brotherhood it was all

856
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:20.639
about the gradation, like you're okay, yeah, yeah, you're your hundred

857
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.320
percenting these missions rather than like past
fails like Okay, you got you know,

858
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.519
geting get all this, someone saw
the mission, but you still got

859
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.639
through it, so that's enough,
but you won't get the exactly. I'm

860
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.599
finding way more missions within this set
that are like nope, you got seeing

861
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:42.199
game over, and it's very unsatisfying
when when that happens, they checkpoint you,

862
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.880
Okay, do they give you at
least like you don't have to redo

863
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:50.079
the whole mission? Right? Sometimes
sometimes I remember, even just from that

864
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.079
quick look running into that problem.
Yeah, it was more of that stuff.

865
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:53.880
Yeah, we did that quick look
at the da VICI stuff and I

866
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.559
went back to it and yeah,
that that same problem kind of persists some.

867
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.000
But if you're still planning Brotherhood online
that introduced there, Pete, did

868
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.840
you more math? There's still people
I didn't throw in, but I wouldn't

869
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.320
be surprised. I mean, that
game's like pretty singular as far as multiplayer

870
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.840
experience. We go back to that
for another TNT at some point. That

871
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:15.000
was a fun Maybe we've ever done
it twice? Did we do? We've

872
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.159
we've maybe not for a full TNT, but we've totally played that on MULTILEA.

873
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.400
I think we did the beta once
at some point, I remember,

874
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.280
I don't know. I know we've
yeah, I don't I remember the context,

875
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.559
but we've done at least two of
those. Maybe we do like the

876
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:31.119
greatest hits at some point. Maybe
maybe maybe World's full of Maybes. Yeah.

877
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:37.800
To make sure that my my PlayStation
three would correctly play MK shellon Monks

878
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.599
and MK special Forces, last week, I booted up a little Tony Hawks

879
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.559
pro Skater three for the PlayStation two
and totally went online and made a server

880
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:51.880
and it fucking totally worked, and
it blew my goddamn mind. Didn't you

881
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.199
play with people too? Yeah?
But yeah, how did you do you

882
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:57.400
start a server? A? Yeah? But did you did you tell people

883
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.320
one on Twitter and said I'm playing? Maybe oculously there were other people just

884
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:06.360
waiting waiting for someone to create a
server. So like this like basically like

885
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.679
the central server, like the master
servers Coast East Coast is dead. So

886
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:13.199
like when you first say, like, hey, let's get a game going,

887
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.199
it's like searches search as searches times
out, it's like, all right,

888
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.320
no, there's no master server.
But then it still brings up that

889
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.719
main list of like East one West
one, and you can go into there

890
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.159
and you can just start a service. All right, well I'm the server

891
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:30.679
now. I was just amazed that
because that game has crazy network options because

892
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:36.679
it came out before the PS two
network adapter came out, so they supported

893
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:40.400
all sorts of weird like third party
network adapters. You go buy like a

894
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:45.519
weird little smc ethernet adapter and plug
it in through USB to the front of

895
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.880
your PS two and it would make
that shit work, and it works just

896
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.800
with the PS three. Yeah,
So I just I just you know,

897
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:52.920
I want to. I was curiously
like, what happens if I put this

898
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:57.320
into my pstwe I didn't even think
and try and go and it was totally

899
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.519
able to just map all that shit
to the regular network in your face on

900
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.000
the p S three, which is
pretty that's actually kind of amazing, kind

901
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:07.000
of amazing, kind of amazing considering
kind of the layers of emulation that you're

902
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.519
going through with a PS three playing
PS two games. Uh, I was.

903
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.000
I was a little bit impressed,
and that game is still fucking dope.

904
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.840
So for T ANDT this week,
we're playing Tony Ox first Gator three

905
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.239
Ready, right, either get out
of PS two or hope you have a

906
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.480
backwards capatable PS three, because yeah, Xbox Live is down, so there's

907
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.159
no fucking way we could play the
Xbox version. Xbox Live is dawn.

908
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:38.599
Yeah, no, we didn't really
sweep well, you know, I heard

909
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.840
about it later on a couple days
later we heard that it was taken down.

910
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.280
I think even like currently, I
was like, what the fuck is

911
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.159
going on? Xbox Live to go
down? I've got something in my head,

912
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.760
lets me know whenever Xbox Live goes
down, partner God, damn.

913
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.000
That's right. That was That was
the heart, That was the harbinger.

914
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.440
That was it, that was where
it started. Yeah, it was all

915
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.760
downhill or sort of. It was
a hill, a weird series of coincidences.

916
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:08.039
It was. It was absolutely that, but we went through it all

917
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:13.440
right. That's talk about news.
Patrick Kleppick. Yeah, the ship is

918
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.480
going on in news other than everything's
breaking. We're gonna be playing a new

919
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:21.519
Nintendo console at E three. Holy
crap. So Nintendo has gone out and

920
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:25.840
confirmed the I guess what started off
as a game informer informed leak. Yes,

921
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.079
or they're like, we know a
guy and we trust this guy,

922
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.920
and he says there's gonna be a
new Nintendo because the guy in the streets

923
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:36.159
in Minnesota and they found him,
they found Prince. I wish that was

924
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.880
a Prince. I know the internet's
dead, but what about the we And

925
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.119
he's like, no, there's gonna
be a new one of those. Yeah,

926
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.480
it's gonna be playable at E three, like we're gonna get and like

927
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.760
they like Nintendo even clarify that it's
not just there will be playable demos up

928
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.320
on a stage, like people will
be playing it. They're not just gonna

929
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:57.320
tie it to a bunch of women. I wouldn't not count that. Maybe

930
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.320
they'll drap a whole TV. Yeah, and a console. Real women,

931
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.000
it's a real is a bunch of
dudes, giant dudes. Just check it

932
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:12.159
out to HD, like I think
you check it out at the d Do

933
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.800
you think do you think they hurriedly
cobbled together a more significant presence for this

934
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.079
thing based on all the stuff leaking? Do you think the additional play was

935
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.880
for this thing to be out there
and this playable at this early stage.

936
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.719
Uh? Maybe maybe. I mean
they rushed things together for the three DS

937
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.719
two, but I expect that was
to be announced at E three last year

938
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.800
anyway, but they announced it because
they knew that financial papers in Japan,

939
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.719
we're going to disclose that it existed
because they were looking at like the production

940
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.920
lines. Uh, this is a
pretty much the exact same scenario. Yeah,

941
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:45.559
it's similar scenario subdued like paragraph of
text just was like oh yeah,

942
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:47.320
yeah, yeah. I mean they
did at least disclose that. The reason

943
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.599
they don't have any sales projections like
in their financial data is because it will

944
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:58.119
not come out until after next April
at least, so the original rumors or

945
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.360
that it might come out next fall. If it's coming out after April,

946
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:04.559
that does maybe not next fall,
but at least we're not going to see

947
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:09.079
it till next summer holiday twelve.
You think they would show it to two

948
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:13.320
E three's before we bought be able
to buy one? Yeah, because I

949
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:15.679
think because it seems like an I
love to see a good summer console launch.

950
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:17.719
That would be neat. I think
because for a while, because I

951
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:24.440
think, what your launched, Oh
that's surprise right after three go buy it?

952
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.920
What? That's maybe a good this
maybe a good reason for people to

953
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.320
not try to go after a summer
line. I can handle a surprise launch

954
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.760
of something a little more elegantly perhaps, I mean they're probably like by announcing

955
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.360
it this early, showing it this
early, they leave themselves a whole lot

956
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.119
of options. But what they could
do, you know, if it proves

957
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:45.920
to be really maybe they do they
push it up to summer and one of

958
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:50.199
the territories and they just roll it
out like they but be like, there

959
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.480
is no there's no way that they're
going to have any competition for another two

960
01:02:54.599 --> 01:03:00.079
years at least, Like there's no
Sony and like stuff, no interest and

961
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.960
meeting them to compete with that like
and know pretty much has the field to

962
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.840
themselves for the next couple of years. And I feel like they're no stranger

963
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.840
to announcing hardware that we don't see
again for like two years. Like they

964
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.039
like they can show they have no
problem showing something different than like a vitality

965
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.199
sensory should but they should the we, they should the we. Like two

966
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:22.679
years before where it came out they
did it was like I don't think so.

967
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.559
I think they were talking about it. It was called the Revolution then

968
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.440
at TGS, so that would have
been September or October. They showed them,

969
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:34.400
they showed the controller for the first
time. Then it was playable at

970
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.880
E three, and then it rolled
out in November, so it was about

971
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.360
a year in change, so about
announced in October, So it could be

972
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.039
the same cycle here announced in Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah,

973
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.119
if it if it's possible that next
three three would all be all the launch

974
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.239
titles, if there's going to be
a summer I mean, if if they're

975
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:51.400
gonna have anything to show at E
three here for for as you know,

976
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:53.119
tightlipped as they've been, and if
this is going to be you know,

977
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:59.400
post April twelve, as soon as
I expect like tech demos here, I

978
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.039
obviously I expect working title, working
title, working title on absolutely everything.

979
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:10.880
There's no way exists fucking Pokemon HD
working title, Mario HD working title.

980
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:15.440
I expect totally Mario Galaxy HD,
that's the big reveal. Yeah, yeah,

981
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:16.679
Well, I don't think they'll do
another Galaxy thirty to two. You

982
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:21.480
don't think the charge you for they'll
charge you for the one we're talking about

983
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.000
the same game in HD, Well, they'll they'll do one and two as

984
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.400
as like an HD bundle. Well, if we're lucky, this thing will

985
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:30.559
just play old Wei games. Who
knows, we'll see because if you look

986
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.159
at those emulators the same assets the
way Nintendo design them for the Wei.

987
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:38.679
Because of the resolution, if there's
a way they can just upresive, it's

988
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:42.559
certainly possibly to render those games at
higher resolution because people are doing it.

989
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:45.400
You know, would be better if
Nintenna could just charge you for them again,

990
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.719
because that really makes a lot more
sense. But it's sticking with it

991
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:53.440
with some sort of like electronic shop. Maybe possibly what if there's an unlock

992
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.599
code to like you put your old
one in and then you have to buy

993
01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.960
like a five dollars HD unlock code
to play it. Give me on the

994
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.559
get ready on the phone. I
gotta go. They have a phone on

995
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.119
that iPad. So no, So
this isn't that. I mean the three

996
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:11.280
DS got basically announced in the same
fashion of just very It was a press

997
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.760
release, just kind of put out
there. Yeah, And in that case,

998
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.000
they got ahead of Yeah, they
got ahead of the rumors getting out.

999
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:17.880
They just said, all of a
sudden, we're making a three D

1000
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:23.119
hand I don't think anybody had actually
they knew that there. They were already

1001
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.840
getting ramping up to produce the handheld
for the test units, so they knew

1002
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.639
that people were going to see a
three D display and so they just got

1003
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:30.920
ahead of it. Yeah, they
kind of did the same thing here.

1004
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.400
They Nintendo has one more press conference, I think it's next week in Japan

1005
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:39.719
to talk about stuff, so it's
possible they'll be a little more about it

1006
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:43.719
before. But they haven't said anything
about what it is except that it won't

1007
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.960
be three D most of them because
they can't. They can't control the display

1008
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:51.519
like they did. They mentioned anything
about the controller, NA, nothing,

1009
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.760
No, but it will be It
sounds like all we know is it'll have

1010
01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.599
buttons, a sensor, and a
touch panel of some sort or at least

1011
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.159
a display. But I'd be surprised
if it wasn't a touch panel. And

1012
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:08.280
it will be HD. That's confirmed, the system will not. I wouldn't

1013
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:13.039
say confirmed, it's impossible. What's
actually what's actually more what we don't know.

1014
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:16.199
It'll definitely be HD, but it's
whether they choose to. You know,

1015
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:19.920
right now, three sixty MPs three
level hardware, you'll be making money

1016
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.440
day one, which is what Nintendo
does with all their consoles. Do they

1017
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:28.159
choose to go with that hardware and
make money day one or to go with

1018
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:30.840
or not a stick a loss you
can get you could get hardware it's more

1019
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.639
powerful now, and you would you'd
still be making money. But they're making

1020
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:40.480
more money if they're using hardware from
five years ago, and they're still going

1021
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.840
to be able to get ports of
those HD games for the next two or

1022
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.880
three years that Sony and Microsoft are
waiting to see what they do with their

1023
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:49.719
consoles. So so I think we
mentioned this last podcast. I think it

1024
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:54.280
was a really good point. Do
you think that they took a lesson from

1025
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:58.599
having such a unique control scheme and
this time they're going to move towards being

1026
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.719
able to port stuff from the their
systems more easily, not have to redesign.

1027
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.960
And my theory is this is going
to be the hardcore console that people

1028
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:09.440
kind of want it because they tapped
out eighty million we units and so they

1029
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.360
took the casual as far as they
could go. But the casuals that they

1030
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.119
found out they're only going to buy
maybe one other game afterwards, Like they

1031
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:20.039
didn't find a success as big as
WE Sports other than we Fit, and

1032
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:24.159
so they could not get the casuals
to buy the software, But the hardcore

1033
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.480
will buy the software. So if
they're if they're acknowledged the Microsoft and Sony

1034
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.119
filed them down the motion path with
this one, if they take it back

1035
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.880
and match, they know if they
play to the hardcore, doesn't matter how

1036
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:38.480
much the hardcore Nintendo fans bitched and
moaned about the last five years. They

1037
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:42.159
will come right back if they make
the games that they want. And I

1038
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.320
think they're in a position where they
could play to the hardcore for the next

1039
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.840
two years, get some good will
back, see what Sony, Microsoft decide

1040
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.280
to do. And then they just
throw another curveball, like they just played

1041
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.280
to their bass for the next couple
of years, and they make a red

1042
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:59.840
one, yes that's right, or
blue it's like three years. I don't

1043
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:03.239
want to get I don't I don't
want to speculate what color, What color

1044
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:09.199
is the new Nintendo's platform? But
no, no comment. Base color.

1045
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:13.280
That's the hardest thing. Base color, that's the hardest base color. Silver.

1046
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.199
I didn't like those three silver Silver
GameCube was silver. No purple,

1047
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:23.359
not not at launch, purple purple
an ugly purple. Silver didn't come out

1048
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:27.079
for a while. I still have
my custom painted game cube. Your Panastanic

1049
01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.319
DVD game cue, whatever, that
thing was calm. Oh no, I

1050
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.960
didn't get the all the Gods a
queue. Yes, that thing was fucking

1051
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:38.279
sick. What thing was crazy?
I really wanted to get one of those

1052
01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:43.359
at the time. What did the
black GameCube come out? Uh? That

1053
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:45.159
was a launched thing, wasn't it
was? It? Was? It?

1054
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.960
Sure launched? Purple? Yeah,
the silver one came out a while afterward.

1055
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.159
Silver one was ugly too. Yeah, all the game? Can you

1056
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.600
get a different color? Way?
That red? Red? Black? Yes?

1057
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.399
Okay? Black ones took a while, though, I think they if

1058
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:03.279
they did a like New Super Mario
Brothers we Bundle, that's a red one.

1059
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:08.479
I think maybe there was at least
a red box. I know for

1060
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:13.359
New Super Mario. We we use
are not to be seen. We used

1061
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:16.479
to be tucked into the odd corner
of your entertainment center and then occasionally wake

1062
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:20.680
you up at night with the blinding
blue glow. I'm just curious to see

1063
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:24.960
what it'll look like like. Nintendo
console designs are so weird. I'm gonna

1064
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:31.760
say the official new color is clear. Oh not see the hard way I

1065
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.319
used to have. I used to
have one of those phones that you could

1066
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:47.920
see thee There would be like a
small neon coil. Yes, the dopest

1067
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:58.600
the topic consumer electronics Industrial boss right
against my gifts Spencer Gifts. Clear plastic

1068
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:02.520
is so much worse than like rush
metal or wood paneling or anything else you

1069
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.600
can come up with wood paneling.
It's hard to think of it's not white.

1070
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.479
At this point. It's also just
weird to imagine we're playing a new

1071
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:14.119
console like it's been a long time. I'm ready, I've been ready ready.

1072
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:16.359
Yeah, I mean just kicks it
off officially, But however this plays

1073
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.880
out determines what you know the pace
of when you see the other consoles and

1074
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:29.920
ugliest Nintendo console U N sixty four
really purple game cube that I really like.

1075
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:33.520
It was cool like a little pand
I do. I like the little

1076
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.399
disc. I think the colors were
were less than great. I'll about the

1077
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:43.000
Pikachu N sixty four, Yeah,
that's pretty things but at least built,

1078
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:46.159
at least it was smaller than the
original and sixty four it was it was

1079
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.000
they shrugged sixty four from them,
Yeah, they shrug it down for those

1080
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:53.920
weird Pikachu and sixty fours. It's
just that weird hump on the N sixty

1081
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.800
four and like it has had these
little feet out in front like it was

1082
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.359
presenting to you. It was just
I think the fat DS is the untent.

1083
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:03.319
Yeah, okay, well well if
we're talking hand let's let's let's talk

1084
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:05.840
consoles, because that's what we're talking. I think the Super Fam Colm is

1085
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:14.000
the prettiest Intendo console. Red and
gold, that's the famm. Oh yeah,

1086
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.239
super Fam colms got nice curves.
Forget what's super super com is super

1087
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:24.800
rounded? Right yeah? Yeah,
take a super as but sleek purple buttons

1088
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:28.319
on it too in America, So
why does Nintendo like purple? Nintendo does

1089
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:33.720
go crazy for purple. This nest
doesn't age well nothing like more depressed optimizing

1090
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:38.399
plastic notwithstanding, Like it just doesn't. It was never a nice looking ness.

1091
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.079
Yeah, it was the Japanese one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1092
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.640
The Super Fam Colm looks completely different. Well, what's what's the color

1093
01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:46.840
schemes. It's like all gray basically, but it had like a it had

1094
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.640
like a coble with colors like blue, green, red, and yellow motif

1095
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:54.720
and like the buttons on the face, buttons on the controller were all four

1096
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.960
of those colors instead of just purple. Uh. And that with like the

1097
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.319
logo had that on the console,
and it just it was It was a

1098
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.159
nice sleek curve design. I used
to ogle that thing in the ninto No

1099
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:09.359
Power so much. I liked that
the GameCube had a handle. I liked

1100
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:13.800
the lunchbox aesthetic on that just because
Yeah, I mean, you do it

1101
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:17.039
just because it's so stupid. I
like it because it because it stores nicely.

1102
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.760
Now, like once it's off your
shelf, it's store is very neat

1103
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:24.079
and like the closet. But you're
never gonna like skip down the hall like

1104
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:29.960
swinging your arms. All it has
to do is evoke that like that's the

1105
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:31.479
only point of that handle. It's
not that you're actually gonna pick it up

1106
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:34.199
by the handle and take it everywhere
with. Yeah, I've used the handle

1107
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:38.439
like functionally, like to bring it
places, like when we have to we

1108
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:40.800
just have to bring it to the
studio and stuff. I would use the

1109
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.239
handle. It's okay, it's fair. Yeah, it was clean, clean

1110
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:48.960
and sharp, but I appreciate that. Yeah, I missed the day.

1111
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:53.960
I missed the days of non slot
loading. Uh this drives as well.

1112
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.119
Yeah, I want to put something
on a spindle. Have you ever put

1113
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.199
a GameCube game into your Wii.
God know where to put it. I've

1114
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.960
never done it. I've never done
it because terrified of it. I'm terrified

1115
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:08.560
of I'm like, I'm looking,
I'm like, I'm just never gonna get

1116
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:10.680
this disc back right, Like,
I'm gonna try and put this in and

1117
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:15.840
it's gonna imagine if how would you
get it out here? I'll hear that

1118
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:23.079
drive noise, that click, did
you hear some motors? Some serve like

1119
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:29.039
nope, hold on? Did my
We just laugh. It's stuck. It's

1120
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:31.119
it's eating my cap. I don't
think. I don't think I've ever played

1121
01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.239
I've like put a GameCube disc in
there, but I don't know if I've

1122
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:40.319
ever played a GameCube game on my
Yes, that's a scary proposition to me,

1123
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:43.479
a GameCube game would I want to
go back and play? So how

1124
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:45.000
far back do you do you expect
intended to go for you know, for

1125
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:50.319
backwards? Gud, Let's just let's
just make full blown speculation one of the

1126
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:57.159
reports so that it wouldn't maintain GameCube
and functionality. What I'm actually, what

1127
01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:59.640
I'm cused about is what stored unit
they go with? Is it gonna be

1128
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:04.680
a blue rap thing or did they
go with something else. I can't imagine

1129
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.640
them going making you know what if
we're gonna if we're gonna say, you

1130
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:11.319
know, if they're but they're they're
they're a courting third parties. They gotta

1131
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.600
have a high definition Nintendo has along
aboard the slow loading disc format, So

1132
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.079
if they can do anything to get
away from that, I think they will,

1133
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:21.000
Like they load times are like an
athema tooth and Nintendo experience. You

1134
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:25.039
know, I'm just gonna throw it
out of here. Yeah, exactly if

1135
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:29.119
it's the fucking nineties again, not
carts carts, but like the thing they're

1136
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.720
doing with the MGP, you know, yeah, see something along those lines,

1137
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:36.119
some kind of proprietary like flash format
or something. I mean, but

1138
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:41.159
you know, effectively solid solid state
media, not ROMs per se. But

1139
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.439
I think it'll have an Ethernet port
on it. Probably probably not. I

1140
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.159
mean they'll cross that bridge already,
right, cut it off. There's not

1141
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.720
one on the weed, right,
that's the thing. A couple of USB

1142
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:59.840
three point zero ports on it.
No, that'd be cool. You can

1143
01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:04.079
do some cool stuff if that ever
gets ratified as a standard completely wireless controllers.

1144
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:13.600
No charging, Probably not actually it
was. Chris Cohler wrote a story

1145
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:15.960
on Wireless Week making a good argument
why the touch screen makes the most sense

1146
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:20.880
because Nintendo has a history of presenting
an idea and then pulling back and or

1147
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:25.399
canceling projects because they want to wait
for the next one to differentiate, like

1148
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:29.680
how they canceled star Fox two after
it was done because they didn't want to

1149
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:33.479
promote polygonal games on the snest because
they wanted that to be part of an

1150
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:38.960
n sixty fourth thing. And then
they made a big deal about connectivity between

1151
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:43.279
the WE and the DS early in
the Wee's life and then dropped it.

1152
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.680
No, they were gonna do it
for Remember, you were gonna be able

1153
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:47.920
to download like DS games through your
WE. Those games were going to talk

1154
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.960
to each other. The only game
that used was sorry and GameCube. They

1155
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.960
did. They dropped that quick,
but they were the reason it was going

1156
01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.039
to work better with WE and DS
is it's all wireless. The whole problem

1157
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.079
with the GBA stuff was there there
was one There was one game. It

1158
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.880
was a Pokemon Battle game where you
could pick the moves on the DS.

1159
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.560
But the Cohler's argument was that they
dropped that because the motion stuff was cool

1160
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.680
enough if they wanted to do connectivity, save it for the next console so

1161
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:17.199
that it makes makes it like an
actual tangible difference in what you're doing with

1162
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:21.039
the gameplay. It adds a little
credence to the idea that you would use

1163
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:26.079
your DS as control for three DS
is a prerequisite for using this console,

1164
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:28.840
or if it's not a precause,
if it's optional, like what if you

1165
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:30.880
say what you say, you can
go buy your art? What if you

1166
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.319
could go buy a console use your
DS as the controller. But if you

1167
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:38.800
want, like the HD control,
like maybe to have a nicer touch display,

1168
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:43.079
maybe it now like there isn't there
there is an opportunity where you that

1169
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.840
could be your controller, but that
you could just buy a nicer one,

1170
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.319
like you could play your game at
home with your nice controller and then take

1171
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:57.399
that experience on the go with your
DS and it's all connected day one.

1172
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.840
They just need to make some fucking
games, doll like, that's what happens

1173
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.800
a Skyward Sword, we swan song. I guess if they're not going to

1174
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:09.039
push it till Fault has to be
out this year. It was supposed to

1175
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:13.800
be out last year. They can't
keep holding that. I've heard this before.

1176
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:16.680
I think I think it was during
the last selling. It would be

1177
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:23.239
completely fucking insane if that game didn't
come out this year. But you gotta

1178
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.359
give them something else, like you
gotta give the people that bought like the

1179
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.920
hardcore Player, because there's nothing else. They have to launch something to put

1180
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:30.760
out a ten pole this year at
this point, at this point, you

1181
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.560
give them Skyward Sword, and then
you just dump the Wii as a machine

1182
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:39.720
and everything just goes into WE two
for next year ninety nine. Buck the

1183
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:42.560
wee you do, and I bet, I bet that pushes him over one

1184
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:47.520
hundred million eventually, if you could
buy your family at seventy nine dollars we

1185
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:53.680
Sports Machine. I just don't.
I just don't know how Nintendo gearshifts from

1186
01:17:54.239 --> 01:18:00.359
the five years of super casual Nintendo
kind of back into the you know,

1187
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.119
they basically need to come come back
into you know, sness era, hit

1188
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:08.359
making, third party and those developers
never went anywhere though, Like people are

1189
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:12.279
lifers and Nintendo so all those guys, but they haven't been there, but

1190
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:15.079
the output hasn't been you know.
I agree that actually getting back into that

1191
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:18.760
could be like kid Icarus is an
interesting experiment in getting some of that together,

1192
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:21.760
right, Like, maybe they're getting
maybe you'll see some of those designers

1193
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:26.600
doing that stuff on three DS first
as they're sort of like getting back into

1194
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.960
the mode of making But yeah,
like but even just like that third tray,

1195
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.319
traditional action games have changed a lot
since Nintendo is making more than just

1196
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.920
like Mario Gala Mario game every couple
of years and there, and they are

1197
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.520
going to need that, you know, they're gonna need that third party support

1198
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:45.119
that they have not really had the
same level of since the nineties. And

1199
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:47.119
if they want third party support and
they're making an HD console, that means

1200
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:53.520
that the controller has to have comparable
buttons to everything. It's gotta it's gotta

1201
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.600
be port friendly. Does that mean
dual analog sticks on whatever you got?

1202
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.840
Maybe? I mean at least or
at least or an analog stick and a

1203
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.880
touch screen so you can kind of
mimic another shop on the screen in the

1204
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.079
middle. That's what it's gonna be. Well, it's gonna be like a

1205
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:13.840
three DS basically. Yeah, we
just one screen. Yeah, that's it.

1206
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:16.039
I'm totally I think I'm down with
this. Three can I can imagine

1207
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:20.359
that and I can imagine the three
DS. It's gonna be a game Boy

1208
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.479
with the new system. Yeah,
so they'll they'll include a game Boy with

1209
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:30.399
the new system. Basically, well
not have an analytic game Boy Advance with

1210
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:38.920
because it's a micro Jam, a
Ness Max and an sp together. My

1211
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:43.319
prediction, here's my one prediction for
this thing. Can't we can't really nail

1212
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.479
that anything. Oh no, no, this is this is here's my one

1213
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:51.399
prediction. Proprietary HDMI port on it. So you can't just plug a regular

1214
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:55.760
HDMI cable. You're gonna have to
plug the video you're talking. You're gonna

1215
01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:00.520
have to plug some kind of Nintendo
proprietary port that has a regular AHMA on

1216
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:02.920
the back end. But on then
it'll be it'll be the same plug that

1217
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.199
they've used since this nest. They'll
keep using that same plug. Is it?

1218
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:10.399
Is it just an hd machine with
composite cables bundle in the box.

1219
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.119
Used to say they'll support hm I
at all, They might just stick It's

1220
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:15.520
funny, but like that's what the
PS three did, right, Yeah,

1221
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.159
yeah, yeah, because I was
buying off the shelf HTMI cable and stick

1222
01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:25.279
it in your PS three, right, But they still come with composite cable

1223
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:29.199
what you're talking about is a proprietary
connector that goes into the console. That's

1224
01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:31.479
what I'm guessing, inquiring you to
buy a cable from. Or it'll be

1225
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:35.920
like mini Hdmi, which is might
as well just come up with a connector

1226
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.720
maybe it'll be hd based he because
they just don't like making it easy,

1227
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.239
and it'll it'll do four ADP and
they'll say HDM HD motherfucker, check it

1228
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:47.760
out. It's just an HDMI cable. It's not actually I a resolution.

1229
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:56.199
That's not I tell me about it. It's eed enhanced dysfunction. Too young

1230
01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:00.319
for that. What what's going on
at Activision? Patrick? Sounds like all

1231
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.119
sorts of crazy shits. Oh yeah, I published to some experts from a

1232
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:08.560
couple of memos that I'd gotten a
couple of months back. There was nothing

1233
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:12.239
totally like revelatory in them. But
the call of duty stuff was kind of

1234
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.840
interesting about how pretty much after the
Infinity Ward stuff happened, everyone kind of

1235
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.720
asked themselves. It was a common
question of you know, you know,

1236
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:23.319
isn't call of duty essentially becoming like
what Katarga was like, has a real

1237
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.680
big spike, Yeah kind of,
and we're ringing it for everything, ringing

1238
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.359
it for it and then and then
you just you know, sort of rang

1239
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:31.720
it for all it's worth. And
so in this activision memo there was actually

1240
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:33.920
like it's it was laid out as
a question and answer, and there was

1241
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:38.840
actually a question that said, you
know, aren't we doing to call of

1242
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:45.439
duty what we've you know, which
is great that those questions conclusions. Yeah,

1243
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:47.119
and like it's it's it's in this
it's in this memo that's presented by

1244
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:51.760
an executive who's you know, memo
speak is very bizarre because they're trying to

1245
01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:56.960
be more honest than they are and
their public statements. But also they're still

1246
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:00.319
doing pr to their thousands of employees, so well they also have to know

1247
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:01.800
that shit's going to get out at
some points. Yeah, but it is.

1248
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.520
It is good. Yeah, it
is good to see that they were

1249
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:10.119
asking. But but yeah, essentially
their logic was, uh, what hasn't

1250
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:14.760
happened yet? And that's in summary
the memo hasn't happened yet, they I

1251
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:17.239
mean, which seems to be to
not be too much of a dick the

1252
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:21.079
kind of activision way it is there. To their credit, they said,

1253
01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:26.039
the one differentiating factor is that it's
a shooter, and the first person games

1254
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:30.000
we know that, but we know
it's a shooter. That game that was

1255
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:35.319
not a shooter. I think I'm
pretty sure I have. I have piles

1256
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:41.800
of research on my desk that heavily
suggests that Guitar Hero was not in that

1257
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:47.960
confirmed suggested. My assistant tells me
this game is clearly she's got young kids

1258
01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:53.159
a shooter. Yeah, brought in
Timmy. Timmy said it is not.

1259
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:59.079
It was not, probably probably not. She was definitely probably not. It

1260
01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:01.479
all faired us, though it was
was the leading edge of a very short

1261
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:06.079
lived bubble, and I don't think
he yeah. I mean, rhythm games

1262
01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:10.399
in general had clearly looking back,
you know, hindsight, being twenty twenty,

1263
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:14.199
they had a pretty short shelf life. But first person shooters have been

1264
01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:18.359
around, and they will continue to
be around, or even modern military will

1265
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.039
be around forever. But at least
they have some reason to think that,

1266
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:25.600
you know, no doubt the style
of game will be perpetuity. I don't

1267
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:29.800
think we're the only ones feeling a
little fatigue right now. Yes, especially

1268
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:32.279
Yeah, it kills Ze, bullet
Storm christis too. I was just I

1269
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:36.079
need to play something else, and
even just playing portal to the first person

1270
01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:41.239
but wildly, Yeah, I didn't
feel the fatigue that I've felt with It's

1271
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:44.000
not a first verson shooter, I
know, but the first person game,

1272
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:45.680
I guess, I guess. My
My point is that I'm tired of the

1273
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.920
first person shooters being made. I'm
not tired of the first person respective in

1274
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.079
any respect. I'm just well,
I mean, part of the problem,

1275
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:59.039
and this is probably something that that
you know very likely wouldn't make it into,

1276
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:04.680
would not its way into an activision
executive perspective is how many other games

1277
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:10.800
that are coming out that are making
Call of Duty feel older just by existing?

1278
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:14.119
How many? How many games are
taking notes from Call of Duties so

1279
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:18.159
directly that it's making you more tired
of Call of Duty without there even being

1280
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:21.760
more. Yeah, Call of Duty
might not be getting lesser on quality necessarily,

1281
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.479
but because you're seeing all that stuff
scattering everything else by virtue of that,

1282
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.199
at that time next quality comes around, it's like, yeah, they

1283
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.760
can't just like we have a new
story setting in the Call of Duty universe

1284
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:35.960
with the same mechanics, Like damn
if they announced Modern War for three,

1285
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:40.520
which is all the same tropes like
that, How like, I don't see

1286
01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:45.720
how that's it'll sell. It'll sell, but I don't know. I could

1287
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:51.039
see, I could see the beginning
of the end, and especially since they

1288
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:57.039
have such so much to fucking prove
right now with you know, the new

1289
01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:01.800
and improved Infinity Ward. Yeah,
and I just, yeah, this is

1290
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.279
the make or break year for that
franchise. Yeah, But I guess the

1291
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:09.279
question is even if even if Call
Day starts to go on a you know,

1292
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.880
sort of a downhill slant, like, what replaces it? Like,

1293
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:16.119
I don't know what's what's responding to. I don't know, Like I mean,

1294
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:18.560
because fundamentally, what made Modern Warfare
is such a you know, I

1295
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.319
hate the term game changer, but
it was because the multiplayer was so different.

1296
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:25.479
At this point, no one since
Modern Warfare has even attempted to do

1297
01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:29.079
anything other than just ape what Modern
Warfare did. Like, I keep waiting

1298
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:30.560
for someone to come in and just
be brave enough to rather than say,

1299
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.560
well, it's easier just to do
modern Warfare, like, let's let's do

1300
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:38.399
multiplayer. Well, I feel like
we're still going through the process of Hey,

1301
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:42.439
this was you know, a pretty
revolutionary thing that that got implemented in

1302
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:47.199
the persistent, the perk and the
persistence rpging like the multiplayer, and I

1303
01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:51.680
think we're still in the phase of
seeing that applied to non FPS genre multiplayer.

1304
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:56.640
We're still seeing that sort of persistence
and there's value in that. There's

1305
01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:00.720
they're absolutely it absolutely does you know, extend the life of a player experience

1306
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:02.800
and give you some greater sense of
investment in it. And you're doing that

1307
01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:05.279
in you know, racing games,
And yeah, I don't think we'll turn

1308
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:09.119
around from that. I think there's
no but but but I'm now it's the

1309
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:11.840
standards. So it's not what I'm
saying is I don't think it's quite the

1310
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.399
standard. It's because it's it's we
were definitely reaching the point where if you

1311
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:18.159
see it in FPS, you go
or whatever. But if you see it

1312
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.439
in a non FPS, it's still
like, oh that's kind of cool,

1313
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:24.039
that'll make this more fun to keep
going blah blah blah. Like it still

1314
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:30.159
hasn't become just industry wide standard.
Pretty close get getting there, but I

1315
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.039
think that's like still like a year
off. I read some interesting quotes from

1316
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:39.640
game Noble, and I am heavily
heavily paraphrasing here is well no, no,

1317
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:42.439
this although it is not on your
list because dude, we can talk

1318
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.720
about it, totally talk about that. But uh, it was something to

1319
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.560
the effect of that that our the
role playing is no longer like like to

1320
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.319
use like a food analogy. It's
no longer a meal. It's basically a

1321
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:56.039
sauce that you add to other kinds
of meals, you know, like the

1322
01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:59.199
I think you're specifically talking about like
Bywaar and stuff like this is gonna break

1323
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:00.479
Vinny's heart, you know, but
is basically saying that, like that style

1324
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:06.479
of sweeping epic role playing game is
done like purely for I guess like financial

1325
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:10.800
reasons. You know, they're so
expensive to make and the returns are diminishing,

1326
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:15.399
so like those elements are better sprinkled
on like quicker and more accessible sources

1327
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:20.399
of experiences where they can enrich shooters
like genres, that more people are more

1328
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:25.239
willing to play Borderlands, right right. I mean, I think that there's

1329
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:28.000
one thing that we can all take
away from this, having you know,

1330
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.359
all been doing it for years,
is nothing's ever done. Everything comes in

1331
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:32.760
a cycle, in a wave,
and he's just when you see what is

1332
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:35.920
that thing? I'm curious if it's
if if the rumors, if you assumed

1333
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:41.920
the rumors of Bungees working on sort
of an online MMO is shooter thing,

1334
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.920
and that Blizzards Tightened project is also
something like that, it kind of seems

1335
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:50.239
like maybe the space is moving from
the lesson from modern warfare is persistence is

1336
01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:56.800
important? How can we make persistence
a larger part of the entire experience?

1337
01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:01.560
And if online like MMO shooters should
be cool, like Planet's Side was a

1338
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:04.680
cool idea, and if the game
didn't work that well, and I think

1339
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:09.560
you have stuff like a need for
speed, like uh, kind of blending

1340
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:13.439
that online offline experience into kind of
something. And I think you'll see to

1341
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:15.520
see more and more of that.
But you know, everybody gets bored of

1342
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:20.000
something. Eventually, I think we'll
see the grand epic role playing game come

1343
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:23.760
back. Uh, it'll it'll start. I mean, look, we're playing

1344
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.760
adventure games. We're playing, we're
playing you can't count to John Row.

1345
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:30.319
You just gotta find someone to make
them. Yeah, it's got to be

1346
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:33.520
cheaper and fastest games. They found
a better way, right, And I

1347
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.840
think you'll see that happen across the
board. And you know, I think

1348
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:40.960
first person shooters will do the same
thing. They'll we'll all get tired of

1349
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:43.600
it. Somebody will will turn the
switch a little bit to something else,

1350
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.079
and we'll keep doing it. Uh. But you know, gamers are like

1351
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:49.399
the most fickle crowding things come in
and out of fashion very quickly. You're

1352
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:55.920
not about that, yeah, frankly, you know, speaking about adventure games,

1353
01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.560
they've been back longer than they were
gone at this point. There there

1354
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.479
was the heyday in the late nineties
and then you know, early odds everything

1355
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:06.760
bottomed out. But then it was
only a couple of years after that that

1356
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:12.479
Telltale was you know, up in
operation and cranking out their episodic adventure games.

1357
01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:15.880
And it's even that whole time Lucas
Arts was trying to reboot Sam Max

1358
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:19.479
like two or three times, but
in non adventure game formats, like they

1359
01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.840
were doing it badly. Yeah.
The thing I'm kind of curious about is

1360
01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:29.159
like StarCraft obviously doing pretty well,
right, and so okay, arts games

1361
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:31.560
didn't really start flooding the market,
didn't really see I mean, some some

1362
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.560
different kinds of tower defense stuff have
come out, Like that seems to be

1363
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:39.439
the angle people are going with,
like we want again with that persistence of

1364
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:43.840
like you know, uh there's online
stuff and uh stuff like, but just

1365
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:47.399
that that old school late nineties like
base building art style not so much more

1366
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:50.079
like Trench and the other things we're
seeing where it's like, well, you

1367
01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:54.479
know, like the relic stuff started
moving towards like a hero model without a

1368
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:59.199
lot. Yeah, building an economy
more base strategic RPG than I don't know

1369
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:02.359
StarCraft was we case because they built
that as like intentionally as an inaccessible,

1370
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:05.840
highly highly competitive I don't sport like
activity. Yeah. I mean, like

1371
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:14.680
like StarCraft doesn't even represent a genre
it represents Yeah, unless unless you happen

1372
01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:17.600
to be the license holder of StarCraft. I don't think you can really cash

1373
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:24.039
in on StarCraft, even if you're
a commanding conquer. Apparently, even if

1374
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:30.039
you're a commanding conquer. Although I
guess there's the smoke out there that they're

1375
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:34.000
working on something. It's so weird. I feel like like the ashes of

1376
01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:41.039
the studio like ignited and there's something
smoldering somewhere. You know, it's like

1377
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:45.079
from the ruins there's entirely dead.
Yeah, threw a lip butt into a

1378
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.560
trash like a breeze came by,
right, and it's just like just enough,

1379
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.520
I think we could do this again. But it hasn't even been dead

1380
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:58.159
that long. No game came out. What four came out last year?

1381
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:02.760
Yeah, let's not talk about that. Was it really twenty ten year?

1382
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:08.760
Yeah? So you're so you're takeaway
from this whole Activision thing was it's the

1383
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.479
first person shooter. First person shooters
are popular. Yeah, they're popular.

1384
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:16.640
This one's still popular. And when
this one isn't popular, hopefully we got

1385
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:21.680
something else. Matt mentioned in the
memo is like they went through like their

1386
01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:26.119
things that they're looking towards, you
after, like a big one was Bungee's

1387
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:30.359
next thing, Like I think I
think they're looking possibly is that to be

1388
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:33.439
their transition even though that's not their
IP. Yeah, who's gonna say what

1389
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:38.600
their business terms are? They're going
to position that as you know, I'm

1390
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:42.439
sure that I'm sure the terms are
very favored toward them, even if even

1391
01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:46.039
if they don't own the IP.
But I that's something they can move over

1392
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.520
towards, even if they don't have
something wholly owned to go to yet.

1393
01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:54.479
I wonder if sometimes like they just
big companies like that like the EAS and

1394
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:59.479
Activision, big publishers are are when
things start getting stale, are looking for

1395
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:01.319
people to break a genre, even
if they have no interest in it at

1396
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.560
all, even if it's like a
competing company to be like, great,

1397
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:08.680
you just opened up a new market
like rhythm games or something like that,

1398
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.880
Like we can get into that,
we can start making new games in that

1399
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.159
channel. Uh, even if like, even if they're not making money from

1400
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.439
it initially. I wonder if it's
just something like like kind of sweat on

1401
01:32:16.479 --> 01:32:18.960
the brow, like we weren't really
sure where we're gonna go, but this

1402
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:21.520
whole modern military thing looks good.
We can make a lot of money for

1403
01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:25.359
that for five years. Like,
thank you guys for kind of paving the

1404
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:28.039
way on there. I mean,
nobody knows, you know, nobody's got

1405
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:30.359
a crystal ball. I mean,
if if we in this room could tell

1406
01:32:30.399 --> 01:32:32.880
you what, you know, the
next big thing, do it, we

1407
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:35.359
wouldn't be here right now. It
would be rolling in piles of money.

1408
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:41.479
Piles of money. Next big thing. I've heard that those are always those

1409
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.079
are always big. Actually, it
turns out French money. That might be

1410
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:48.640
a good segue into the valve stuff. Yeah, I think gave Newell apparently

1411
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:55.079
knows what the next big thing is
knives. Yes, yeah that. Jeff

1412
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:59.159
Kiley launched an iPad app last week
final hours of of Portal two, and

1413
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.520
there's a lot of nuggets about sort
of what Valve was thinking about going forward,

1414
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:08.760
and one of them was that uh
he again paraphrase and but basically said

1415
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:14.880
that Portal two could very well be
Valve's last single player uh solitary experience.

1416
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:18.840
I wasn't really expanded on what that
means, but it sounds like they are

1417
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:26.439
very much thinking that in some capacity
you will always be connected to other players.

1418
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.159
But what that means exactly, I
don't think that necessarily. I don't

1419
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.319
think that the logical conclusions that well, all their games are co op or

1420
01:33:33.399 --> 01:33:36.520
even all of their games have a
I think they're thinking a couple of levels

1421
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:42.159
above that. They just want players
to influence your experience. They're thinking about

1422
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:46.079
the top level, you know,
that is hats that is right up there

1423
01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:51.479
on the top, very top,
very tops the hats. Can't wear hats.

1424
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:57.560
I can't wear hats either. I
bought a straw hut. Did you

1425
01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:02.199
was the kind that is like the
like edges on it? So no,

1426
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:04.800
it was a little cleaner than that. I think they called them sombreros.

1427
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.119
Did We did talk them down a
little bit, though, Oh you gotta

1428
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:11.399
have talk down a hat. And
you guys they gave us, They gave

1429
01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:14.600
us because they gave us a beautiful
deal. In their words, they will

1430
01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:16.479
always give you the white man's price. When the first show up, they're

1431
01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:18.640
like, no, get out of
my face with that. Yep, yep.

1432
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:23.319
Less than that, that's too much
straw hats the future, get what

1433
01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:27.600
you can. So you're you're basically
saying half life mmo, great, Yeah,

1434
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:31.680
it's the headline breaking breaking, you
know what. I think they could

1435
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:39.800
release half Life branded line of farts
and people would be so excited about some

1436
01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:44.760
new goddamn half life content yea of
any kind. It was. It was.

1437
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:46.840
It was weird because like all the
all the Portal stuff, like they're

1438
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:50.479
people like super sad about Portal,
but people like, okay, but the

1439
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:55.079
half life stuff. We'll play this
until we get into their half half life

1440
01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:57.720
in here. What about episode three, about halfway three, the minute that

1441
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:00.359
people found that little image of the
Gmail and on the Portal two countdown polls,

1442
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:02.560
they forgot the Portal two was coming
out, and they were just like

1443
01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:06.359
oh my god, just like yeah, yeah, yeah, just complete meltdown,

1444
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:10.880
complete refocus, like I will trade
in this entire new game for like

1445
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:14.840
two sentences about what you're doing with
this other thing, anything, anything at

1446
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:18.640
all. And they finally dropped that
bomb, like it's just gonna and it's

1447
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:23.359
weird because it again, it has
now been longer since the first Weight,

1448
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:28.239
since the weight from Half Life to
Half Life two episode episode two. Okay,

1449
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:30.479
maybe maybe not to the episodes,
but to the game to Half Life

1450
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:32.880
two kind of have to you kind
of have to consider the episodes, given

1451
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:36.159
it that was supposed to be Half
Life three one, two, and three

1452
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:41.600
and then that kind of went off
the rails. Yeah, it's only been

1453
01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:45.560
three years and changed since since episodes. They playable product called half Life was

1454
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:49.039
out fair enough, but so the
other thing. I don't know if you

1455
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:51.439
got this or not, but didn't. He also mention that they were working

1456
01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:57.119
on some like super top secret,
top level skunk works project of his own.

1457
01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:00.520
No, I read that that was
like sort of the last that was

1458
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.000
before Portal. That was like he
aboarded Portal too or whatever. Yeah,

1459
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:06.479
like I read a brilliant gameplay mechanic
that they won't talk about, but it

1460
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:11.680
is not in Portal too. M. I read that, Man, there's

1461
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:14.560
a lot of stuff about parenting,
a bunch of stuff I read on I

1462
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:16.359
didn't see this an actual news story
accurate it is, but I saw,

1463
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:20.359
like message board chatter was that there
was like a repeatable time mechanic like Braid

1464
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:26.359
style, like sort of creating multiple
instances of yourself. And but I thought

1465
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:29.199
I also read that he has like
some crazy, like five year project going

1466
01:36:29.279 --> 01:36:32.239
on that like wouldn't I wouldn't I
didn't get would not be surprised, I

1467
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:35.720
mean just by the app, I
guess if you want to know more so

1468
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:39.600
here in spout. I mean there
was there was some quote from now like

1469
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:41.840
a year ago that said, over
the next couple of years, we will

1470
01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:45.399
announce things that you would not have
been predicted at the compoint, and we

1471
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:47.119
haven't gotten to that point, like
Portal two, you were gonna make that

1472
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:51.479
like whatever. Now, I'm curious, like Doda, Doda, I didn't

1473
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:57.560
exactly expect, but I'll be curious
to see what comes what comes after that.

1474
01:36:57.640 --> 01:36:59.920
They're not just sitting there and counting
steam money like they've been. They

1475
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.520
they've been so low key for the
last couple of years post Orange Box,

1476
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:08.279
like I mean there was left for
dead, but that those were like that

1477
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:14.119
was was that turtle Box or whatever
into like whatever Valve Proper has been working

1478
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.039
on, like they've been doing more
than Portal Too. And I think it's

1479
01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:19.520
possible. But hopefully we're at a
point where like we'll see a lot.

1480
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:24.479
I'm just being I think we're turning
a corner on I mean, I just

1481
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.359
I just want to say that because
I hope it's true. I actually have

1482
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.039
no evidence or I would just love
to be a E three And there was

1483
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.920
two Valive projects anounced that I'd be
real nice. This is a big Valve

1484
01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:40.319
booth. One of those projects is
Steam too. Damn it. We've created

1485
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:45.840
the sequel to Steam you guys,
episode one not backwards compatible. All right,

1486
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:49.159
you lose all your right, that's
right. We're gonna need you to

1487
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:54.159
upgrade your account to Steam two.
You're gonna lose all your ship for Steam

1488
01:37:54.199 --> 01:37:59.000
one, but you can rebuy all
the stuff FIRSTEAM one is available in Steam

1489
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:03.439
too, just the corkage fee and
we'll bring it over for we were stuff

1490
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:08.960
going to transfer between the Nintendo machine. Probably not. I'm still I'm still

1491
01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:12.399
waiting for them to make good on
DSiWare, transfer it over. I'm still

1492
01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:16.880
made in front of make good on
DSiWare. Boom good finger gun. Yeah,

1493
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:21.439
oh what else is going on there? So canceling handhelds, Yes,

1494
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:28.319
there's there's a there's D word that
DS light Yeah, DS light Uh.

1495
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:31.560
Apparently well on Nintendo's statement to me, it was more just like, well,

1496
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:34.119
you'll be able to buy them,
uh, and you know, steady

1497
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:39.560
quantities going forward. They're not going
to run out, which is basically them

1498
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.640
saying, yes, we've ended production, but they're playing out there. Not

1499
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.079
a lot of people are buying d
S lights, so we got a ton

1500
01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:46.520
of those nights. It's not like
they're going anywhere if you want it,

1501
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.279
because it's already I mean you're talking
like because there's a light that's three revisions

1502
01:38:53.359 --> 01:38:56.760
L three D. So at this
point, if you want a d S

1503
01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:00.840
light, it's and and this is
and this is anecdotal entirely, but I

1504
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:05.079
was in a number of electronic stores
over the weekend, and three ds is

1505
01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.920
are out there. You don't you
don't need to go too far to find

1506
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:15.239
yourself. Then they undersold, Yeah, they didn't hit their four million projection

1507
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:19.079
didn't they They got to three point
six one million, which they said they

1508
01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:23.680
layed partially in the earthquake. They
said that people were just kind of that

1509
01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.520
happened around that time, and then
people just sort of decided, we don't

1510
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.479
want to buy things or three DS
is or not what we need to spend

1511
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.880
our money on right now. Yeah, I could see in Japan that well,

1512
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:38.119
well whatever it was out for.
Yeah, yeah, you're saying that

1513
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.680
people outside of Japan were bummed about
the earthquake and didn't want to buy three

1514
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:45.239
DSS. That's maybe stretching, and
that's maybe a little bit of a stretch

1515
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:49.479
Nintendo. And then yeah, the
PSP go canceled in Japan, but not

1516
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:55.399
in North America. What Yeah,
they're still producing them for North America,

1517
01:39:55.479 --> 01:39:59.760
but not for not for but in
Japan. One would assume, yes,

1518
01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:02.920
that is that is the case.
You know, it's possible with that is

1519
01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:08.560
completely off base speculation, but it's
that if they're only going to release the

1520
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:12.520
NGP in one territory this year,
yeah, that that you would close down

1521
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:15.880
production, you would let the PSP
goes go out of stock in Japan because

1522
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:21.479
you're gonna be releasing the MNGP in
Japan this year. You'll close down PSP

1523
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:26.600
GO production for America later because it's
not going to launch later this year in

1524
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:29.800
America. But people say that would
be my interpret but people still aren't buying

1525
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.039
the PSP GO, So nope,
no go. You should just no go

1526
01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:38.520
PSP go. Nicely done. You're
you're finding your pace here really quickly,

1527
01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:41.479
matric. I'm pretty impressed. And
that was I wrote that down in my

1528
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:47.359
note that one really joke comes up. Even the other notes these are all

1529
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:51.840
just bad wait for applause. Yeah, okay, we don't have an we

1530
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:57.079
don't have a soundboard in here.
Applause break, applause break, not yet,

1531
01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:00.560
knock on wood and off. That
means you want one or don't.

1532
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:04.079
Yeah, you're getting such a bad
place. So the psyche goes down for

1533
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:11.039
a whole week. Then we got
to resort to it some sound iPad Apple

1534
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:16.199
sounds. I bet, oh god, we were almost there. Anything else

1535
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:21.119
happened with the news came close.
Were already we already kind of did PlayStation

1536
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:24.960
network. That's down, all right, What you want to talk a little

1537
01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:29.399
bit about the why or the yeah, I guess run through the speculation on

1538
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.119
so ps ps N went down last
week, Yes, right around this actually,

1539
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:36.039
I think the on Thursday was that's
when we realized we weren't gonna be

1540
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:43.039
able to do Mortal Kombat. Yeah, right for TNT. And then at

1541
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:46.159
that at that point, PlayStation Europe
and put up a short statement saying that

1542
01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:51.840
they blamed it on outside interference because
as a result of geo hot. That's

1543
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:56.479
the hacker's name, right, the
the guy George Hot. Yeah, the

1544
01:41:56.520 --> 01:42:00.399
guy who hacked the Blue So much
love that I found out that geo hot

1545
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:04.840
is just short for George Hots.
I thought it was some bullshit, no,

1546
01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:09.279
because I heard people are geo hot
because it sounds like zero cool or

1547
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:14.800
yeah, definitely sounds like like like
internet nonsense, something from an IRC channel

1548
01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:17.840
in the nineties. Yes, geo
hot sounds like someone's fucking BBS handle.

1549
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:21.800
For sure. I gotta collect the
geo hot traded geo hot. The first

1550
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:26.520
article that I read that said geo
hot real name George Hots, I'm like,

1551
01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:30.000
what really, that's awesome. Yeah, that makes me love the name

1552
01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:32.000
geo Hot. Yeah. I don't
even have to quote that in stories because

1553
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:36.359
you've already said geo hot by the
time you said George. Yeah, so

1554
01:42:36.399 --> 01:42:42.000
anyway, because so because of that
lawsuit, which ended up getting settled amicably

1555
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.199
between the two, Anonymous sort of
declared, we're gonna hack Sony. Yeah,

1556
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:48.359
so they the initial response at least
Sony kind of was like kind of

1557
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:53.600
nudging, Yo, those guys did
it. An Anonymous quickly said, no,

1558
01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:57.680
no, we didn't. They they're
just Sony's bad and like they're just

1559
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.840
their servers are terrible. So then
we pretty much have heard nothing about it

1560
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.159
since, you know, the it's
been down all weekend long, so it

1561
01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:06.359
almost usually takes full credit, like
when they bust shit up, right,

1562
01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:09.960
Yeah, I mean it's hard to
take the you know, yeah, the

1563
01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.680
credibility of a hacker group, but
usually if they were, they want to

1564
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:15.439
take credit for something like that.
I mean, it's pretty big to take

1565
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.199
it down for at this point,
four or five days, possibly longer.

1566
01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:23.119
Yeah, so it doesn't sound like
it's that. And then pretty much Tony's

1567
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:26.800
been just on lockdown mode ever since. They you can access Netflix because that

1568
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:29.279
doesn't go to the log in,
and we talked about the other stuff earlier

1569
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:31.279
that doesn't use the log in sort
of infrastructure, but it kind of seems

1570
01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:34.800
like there's something tied to that log
in and your account information. But the

1571
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:39.359
scary thing is that today there was
a someone It was a PC World asked

1572
01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:42.600
to Sony Japan's folkstrees and like,
so it was my credit card stuff safe?

1573
01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:45.920
And they were like, we don't
know yet, which is not a

1574
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:49.560
great answer. That we'll get back
to you on your credit card information getting

1575
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:55.239
compromised because we're not sure. Didn't
run. You just put your stuff back

1576
01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:57.880
in, didn't you. It wasn't
an offer a bit or is that just

1577
01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.079
that new PS three We had to
enter your your credit card we had to

1578
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:02.680
buy something recently and it wasn't stored
up. Oh no, that's just because

1579
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:05.920
I had to. I had de
authorized all of the because I had hit

1580
01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:13.119
my max like five PS three's authorized
to use my PSN account stuff. Yeah,

1581
01:44:13.199 --> 01:44:16.960
just from yeah, so I just
I was able to get Sony to

1582
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:21.680
I guess they won't normally do this, but they weren't able to wink wink,

1583
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.640
yeah a little bit of that.
So you so you're saying you took

1584
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:30.000
down this was week this weeks and
weeks ago. Back up. Everything's back

1585
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:31.920
up and fresh for the picking.
Damn it. That was me I did

1586
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.920
that. Sorry, guys, No, I want to be able to again.

1587
01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:39.479
I'm a PlayStation Plus member, motherfucker's
I want that ship working went up

1588
01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:43.079
time, I went up time.
And I also want some sort of recompense

1589
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:45.520
for this crazy downtime. Yeah,
well that's assuming that it had like comes

1590
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.520
up anytime soon, like when you're
ready recompense. Yeah, you want,

1591
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:54.000
you want? That was that word
out, that's right, the dictionary dot

1592
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.680
com over the day the day recompense. I was waiting for that when they

1593
01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:03.600
come up episcope end. Uh.
Actually, I'm just I'm not gonna lie

1594
01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:08.039
to you. I'm staring at a
great big picture of fatality on my iPad

1595
01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:12.600
right now. See can tell because
it's his fatality next to it. That's

1596
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:15.079
some speakers or some per referral that
he's sponsored. He's wearing a shirt.

1597
01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:21.520
It's crazy, that's not fatal.
Yeah, some photoshop job, yeah,

1598
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:26.439
they clearly. Well it is a
picture of Bill Gate's face. I was

1599
01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:30.359
just thinking about Home the other day, about how long it's been since you

1600
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:33.399
had logged into home, about is
that home was home still around? I

1601
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:36.840
did? I did at G four. The stories would have been like a

1602
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:40.760
year and a half old now,
but I did, Like I never used

1603
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.880
home, didn't give a shit,
And it's like who uses it? Because

1604
01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:46.279
I know it makes a lot of
money. Really yes, yes, successful

1605
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:50.680
somehow so so so the basic way
it's successful is that it has a core

1606
01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:56.720
user base that goes in all the
time and buys everything. So it doesn't

1607
01:45:56.760 --> 01:46:00.239
have a real widespread appeal, but
the people that are in it's kind of

1608
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:03.199
second lifefish, and that the people
that are in there, they are everything.

1609
01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:08.520
They are engaged as hell. Yes, yeah, that's crazy. I've

1610
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:12.600
never thought the answers to bring up
that questions. It's only very valuable to

1611
01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:18.079
marketers, like it's seen as as
a very viable because they don't need They

1612
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:21.840
haven't really needed to do any more
work on it because as as it stands,

1613
01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:26.319
like the people that have passed judgment
on it aren't going to go in,

1614
01:46:26.479 --> 01:46:30.039
Like, there's nothing you can do
to make that place like real interesting

1615
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:32.239
to anyone that doesn't already think that
the idea of going into this virtual world

1616
01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:36.840
with ugly avatars and dancing. But
I spent I spent. I did a

1617
01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:41.359
whole month where I tried to spend
I would spend an entire evening just wandering

1618
01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.520
around Home, just asking people why
are you here? I win everything,

1619
01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:47.680
and they have real customized I mean, they just it's a place for them,

1620
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:51.880
like they have a friend group.
It's essentially their IRC channel, or

1621
01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:56.279
it's just their message board, and
it's free. You know, it's obviously

1622
01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:58.840
a huge selling point for unless you
want to pay like fourteen ninety nine for

1623
01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:01.119
a couch. I added up all
the iteism in there one night when I

1624
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:04.680
was in. It's just ridiculous how
much stuff is on there, but people

1625
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:08.600
buy it. So I've gone to
GDC sessions where they're like, we know,

1626
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.800
the perception is that Home is a
giant, failed piece of crap,

1627
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:15.920
but it's actually actually it's incredibly I
always heard it's just a marketing testing ground.

1628
01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.600
I had always heard like that.
Marketers and advertisers freaking love Home.

1629
01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:23.720
I'd always heard that end of it
to be true. And if you think

1630
01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:29.600
about it, you know you're in
a way. All of the Avatar customization

1631
01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:32.520
bullshit that they sell on the three
sixty is no better, in fact,

1632
01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:36.840
is way worse than the Home stuff, because at least Home there is a

1633
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:40.960
place to run around with your dude
with all the stuff that you just a

1634
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:44.039
dashboard. Yeah, on the three
sixty, it's like I can go down

1635
01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:46.560
my friends list and see what my
friends look like at that point, but

1636
01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:49.359
you can't really like that stuff doesn't
even show up most of the tight Yeah

1637
01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:54.279
exactly. Even then, there's like
there's no there's nowhere to go and do

1638
01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:57.279
stuff with your avatar. These as
a number of places that anybody that's not

1639
01:47:57.399 --> 01:48:00.800
you can see the stuff the avatar
is wearing is very limited. On three

1640
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:03.359
six Yeah, I never really noticed
that. Uh well, like Home just

1641
01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:06.680
seemed like it was just a secreted
away thing that like nobody ever clicked it.

1642
01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:11.039
It's it's it's because it's because they
just have this you know, this

1643
01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:14.560
audience that just loves it and they
just it's also never gone out of beta.

1644
01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:15.960
It's one of those like I should
go back. It's been a year

1645
01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:18.439
and a half since I did that
series again check come back to Home.

1646
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:23.000
So that's down obviously, right,
that must be maybe that's on a separate

1647
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:27.840
server. I want to see what's
up at home. I want to go

1648
01:48:27.920 --> 01:48:30.479
and go do it do a new
home quick look? Can you imagine just

1649
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:31.760
the pe check out. I'll go
back, all right, the folks can

1650
01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:35.520
make a video series out of this, the folks having like Home withdrawals like

1651
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:39.119
I can't fucking get into Home.
I don't know what my friends are doing.

1652
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:42.680
I always thought Home would be cool
if they just went the whole matrix

1653
01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:46.439
route of like letting you make gigantic
rooms that never end and like, you

1654
01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:50.600
know, just like, yeah,
well maybe just give one random person at

1655
01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:54.359
home, just like Debug as well, let's have a dragon, you know,

1656
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:56.680
just like all sorts of crazy stuff. I mean, I checked back

1657
01:48:56.720 --> 01:48:59.520
into Home like last year at some
point, and the thing that really struck

1658
01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:06.439
me is that it felt just as
small and limited and like Beta Testy it

1659
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:11.039
did when it first launched. But
it's again, go boot up Second Life

1660
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:15.079
like not any different. Really,
It's just isn't it is? But it's

1661
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:17.840
the same, you know, it's
a smaller version of that. It's just

1662
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.000
it doesn't matter that it's JANKI and
that it doesn't work. That's why.

1663
01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:26.479
Actually, like it's endearing to those
people. They like that it's janky and

1664
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:30.680
weird, and they like that nobody
comes there because they don't have to deal

1665
01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:34.840
with other people weird. It's weird. Yeah, Anyway, we just talked

1666
01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:40.039
about PlayStation for twenty minutes we're talking
about Yeah, I don't know what it's

1667
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:42.720
gonna be back up. It could
be weeks, like if they're if they

1668
01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:46.760
have if they have to rebuild a
log infrastructure, weeks, depending on how

1669
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:51.520
paranoid they are about you can't they
want to remember this is Japan, and

1670
01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:57.520
can people play so Calm. That's
that's ludicrous. You can't play So Calm.

1671
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.439
You can't do portal co op,
you can't do h combat like a

1672
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:03.960
bunch of on last If just came
out like Sipper got screwed, mag didn't

1673
01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:06.199
work out that well, and all
of a sudden, still count four launches

1674
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:12.319
and then PSM goes down. Socom
three had a similarly sit launched too,

1675
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:15.880
So last two So Calm games not
all this confrontation. I'm sorry, that's

1676
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:19.560
right, thank you. Silcom three
was a ps two that was a Plant

1677
01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:24.000
six joint. It's a different developer. But the last two, last two

1678
01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:27.319
three series is yeah, yeah,
yeah, that is a real shame.

1679
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:31.000
Yeah. Can you imagine being like, you're not really looks like and they

1680
01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:35.239
just lost their lead designer to that
happened today. We just put out an

1681
01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:41.439
online focused game and then the platform
that we are exclusively available on lost its

1682
01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:45.560
online. All three all three of
the major releases last week, we're billed

1683
01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:48.760
as best on PlayStation. Yeah,
more combat got extra content pointed out all

1684
01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:51.199
the Steam stuff. Yeah, I
didn't even I didn't even think about it.

1685
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:56.159
Like all those games are like mar
keps three releases and should have been

1686
01:50:56.159 --> 01:51:00.840
a kick ass weeks. So Calm
all right, I mean at least MK

1687
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:04.319
and Portal they could sell units on
other platforms and like, so Calm is

1688
01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:06.239
like no, no, no,
this is but this is yeah, this

1689
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:10.520
is why it's extra bad for Sony. Yeah, well like kind of like,

1690
01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:12.840
yeah, obviously a bummer for everyone
involved. Like, hey, you

1691
01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.880
know we release Scambling your platform and
your platforms all fucked up. That's good.

1692
01:51:15.039 --> 01:51:17.439
I mean, they gave you very
compelling reasons to buy those games on

1693
01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:20.560
their platform. This is this is
it made us still come as a campaign.

1694
01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:24.840
But you're not it's not where you're
not. You're down there. You're

1695
01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:28.399
just hoping the campaign's a fun distraction, like you're there, right. It

1696
01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:30.239
seemed more fully fleshed out than what
they've done in past, So Calm games

1697
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.560
of just like bots or whatever.
But that's what I like when you say

1698
01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:36.000
weeks and you just imagine you you
are throwing every resource you can to get

1699
01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:40.600
this. Yeah, I mean being
irobolic. But the fact that they're not

1700
01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:44.880
giving any any any date or timeline. Yeah, there's there's no reason to

1701
01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:46.800
think that it couldn't be. I
wouldn't. I wouldn't think that Amazon web

1702
01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:54.720
hosting would go down for days at
hours. Yeah, so you know what,

1703
01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:59.600
fucking now, anything is possible.
You know, literally anything can happen

1704
01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:02.119
now. You know what, the
best servers that's right for Amazon is the

1705
01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:04.760
one that just went down, because
there's no way that shit's going down.

1706
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:09.840
You're saying that the server we're on
right now is probably the most clean to

1707
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:13.399
that one, because we are good. Everything's new, all fail safes are

1708
01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:15.760
put in. They're checking that one
every day. You're just looking at it

1709
01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.319
all the time. It's waiting for
it. Just blank. Did that not

1710
01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:23.960
blink? Shit? Write write it
down your moleskin every time you think it

1711
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:29.399
didn't blink blank. That sounds like
a test. Yeah, this is this

1712
01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:33.079
sony thing is bizarre. It's crazy. Well, and it's it's crazy.

1713
01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:39.840
The you know the lack of information
for you know, being like you have

1714
01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:43.119
to wonder if that's what we're getting, what are like how much information or

1715
01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:45.239
developers getting. You know, guys, you know people, you know,

1716
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:46.880
people like Insomniac working. You know, if you look at what's happening is

1717
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:49.960
something like a SOCLM. If you're
Insomniac and you're looking at you know,

1718
01:52:50.119 --> 01:52:54.439
well, we're making as for exclusive
game too, and thinking like the non

1719
01:52:54.840 --> 01:53:00.520
enthusiasts like player base going on going
online to find out what the hell is

1720
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:03.760
going on. It's just down the
people who are who aren't wired into like

1721
01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:08.560
fucking Twitter accounts and you know,
nowhere to look for information like that.

1722
01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:11.039
It's like, I want to try
on my p S three and play some

1723
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:14.079
fucking Call of Duty. You turn
that on and you're like, why can't

1724
01:53:14.079 --> 01:53:17.239
I fucking play Call of Duty on
my PlayStation three? Or ISPs getting phone

1725
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:20.640
calls of like it's not connected.
We don't know, sir, it works

1726
01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:24.479
from here. Oh yeah, I'm
sure there is this weird ripple effect of

1727
01:53:24.760 --> 01:53:30.520
like customer service in all these other
weird tangential areas know all about the fact

1728
01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:36.199
that PlayStation network is down right,
there's already like pat answers in India somewhere

1729
01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:40.479
the dude that knows, like,
are you trying to get on the PlayStation

1730
01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:43.199
network? Yeah, that shit isn't
isn't working right now. That's not us.

1731
01:53:43.359 --> 01:53:46.560
That's not us. That's not your
ISP's Please call Sony customer service at

1732
01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:51.439
one and exactly. That's that's not
your ISP, that's not your router manufacturer.

1733
01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:56.079
That's not your computer manufacturer, your
neighbor stealing your internet. No,

1734
01:53:56.479 --> 01:53:59.560
that's not Comcast. Your computer doesn't
have a virus. No, no,

1735
01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:05.119
be sure it's not Dell. Well
it could, but that's not this unrelated

1736
01:54:05.479 --> 01:54:11.159
your your kid did not fuck up
your internet? Or did he? Or

1737
01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:14.119
did he? He also touched your
tools? Compete the shit out of him.

1738
01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:19.199
He's been touching my tools. He
also hid the clicker. Goddamn kids

1739
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:24.760
touching my fucking tools. Uh,
he's gonna turn into a therapy session in

1740
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:28.760
about two minutes. Did you touch
the tools, Vinny, Oh god,

1741
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:31.399
don't touch never touched you. Never
touched the tools. Two things you don't

1742
01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:35.000
touch. He touched them once.
Never. Lesson learned, I'm touching the

1743
01:54:35.039 --> 01:54:38.960
tools. Don't touch the tools,
and don't touch the fucking remote. Right

1744
01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:44.000
man, I gotta find that fucking
clicker, click the clicker. God damn

1745
01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:48.880
it. Anyway, let's keep going. I like this. I had something

1746
01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:51.960
else. I had one more thing. Oh yeah, so EA announced what

1747
01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:58.439
they're No, it was a survey. But before we move on from Peter

1748
01:54:58.960 --> 01:55:03.039
announced what they're online pass was going
to be for Alice Madness Returns. Oh

1749
01:55:03.159 --> 01:55:05.279
that, Oh that was kind of
cool. Yeah. I thought I was

1750
01:55:05.359 --> 01:55:10.680
heading off at the eas EA Sports
subscription thing that. Oh no, No,

1751
01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:13.279
that's the more recent thing. This
is the older things. Yeah,

1752
01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:15.079
sometimes I just work. Yeah,
this one's weird. So's it's the online

1753
01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:19.680
passford Alice Madness Returns for the p
s three and three six sixty. But

1754
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:24.560
in order to download the original Alice, which they're porting, you have to

1755
01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:28.960
have the online pass to download it
through an in game menu in the game.

1756
01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:31.720
So like, so you're going to
pre order get a code to download

1757
01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:35.520
it for free from the Xbox Life
marketplace, like you if you were going

1758
01:55:35.560 --> 01:55:41.439
to buy Madness Returns. You cannot
get the XBLAPSN version, at least probably

1759
01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:44.640
till a later date. Well,
they're even saying like if you get a

1760
01:55:44.720 --> 01:55:48.000
copy of Madness Returns and you don't
have the pass for it, within Madness

1761
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:53.520
returns. You can still pay ten
bucks to get this port of the original.

1762
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:57.159
The menu it's not going to be
accessible. It still strikes me as

1763
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.279
like a really compelling way to handle
this, this whole online pass, you

1764
01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.800
know, kind of the project that
they're going for, because that game is

1765
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:08.520
fucking impossible to find in in reasonable
means on the PC. Like, that's

1766
01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:11.960
a that's a weirdly rare ass game
that got a box copy factor sealed.

1767
01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.880
You still that fur hundred fifty bucks
without breaking a swip? Somebody hit me

1768
01:56:15.039 --> 01:56:18.600
up. It's not a very good
game. Get the fuck out. Have

1769
01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:23.840
you played it? Come on?
Some people love it. It's the day.

1770
01:56:23.840 --> 01:56:26.279
It's interesting because it's a very polarizing
game. I would be willing to.

1771
01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:30.479
I mean, it was a third
person game made in the Quake three

1772
01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:35.560
engine, which is not designed for
the Quack three engine. Yeah, I

1773
01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:39.279
played a recently. I don't think
you were here when we talked about playing

1774
01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:41.720
it. I booted it up not
more than like two or three weeks ago.

1775
01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.319
It doesn't hold up. The cut
scenes and stuff are still cool.

1776
01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:49.159
The atmosphere, yeah, but man, it's it's maybe one of the worst.

1777
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:54.359
Like it just looks so jank.
It's bad. It's bad. I'm

1778
01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:57.680
sorry, Brad because I had better
memories too, and I was like,

1779
01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.279
I'm gonna play it through Alice.
I remember this being awesome. Wait where

1780
01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:03.920
did you get it? I had
it installed still, yeah, yeah,

1781
01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:06.199
just on my I couldn't even find
the disc anymore. I was like,

1782
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:10.039
crap, I don't even know if
this will I can't find my other copy

1783
01:57:10.119 --> 01:57:12.680
of it. I lost the disc
for that, but of coase have the

1784
01:57:12.680 --> 01:57:14.760
sealed one, but I don't want
to open it just to know. You

1785
01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:16.720
should make I don't know what the
copy of protection stuff is, but I

1786
01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:19.119
can like maybe zip it and give
it to if you want to try it.

1787
01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:24.319
Uh. But yeah, man,
it's it's kind of the worst.

1788
01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:26.560
Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't
hold up at all. Yeah, I

1789
01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:29.920
see if they do any sort of
cleaning up in this port, Like,

1790
01:57:29.960 --> 01:57:31.279
well, it never came out on
consoles right now, this is the first

1791
01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:35.359
time it's gonna appear. They were
porting it and then canceled it. So

1792
01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:39.279
kind of the weird emission of all
this is that the PC version, which

1793
01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:42.560
is coming day and date with the
PS three and three sixty versions of Madness

1794
01:57:42.600 --> 01:57:45.880
returns. Uh. They just said, they haven't said what they're gonna do

1795
01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:47.920
with it. I don't think they're
saying you're not. They didn't say no,

1796
01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:54.520
but all they said yes to for
this was the console versions, which

1797
01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:57.319
is I don't know, interesting.
I guess it would be amazing if they

1798
01:57:57.359 --> 01:58:01.880
went back and at least tightened some
of the three. That is doubtful.

1799
01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:05.319
I mean, that is doubtful.
It's just adapting the movement and camera to

1800
01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:10.840
anallyog sticks would probably go a long
way. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

1801
01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:13.840
yeah. I mean, it's still
gonna be a ten year old game no

1802
01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:17.319
matter how you how you cut it. But it's it's interesting and I feel

1803
01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:21.800
like it's it's it's a good way. It is. It is a value

1804
01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:28.319
adding way to approach this idea of
we want to sell new copies of I

1805
01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:32.119
get better than locking uh content,
you would they would typically be there or

1806
01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:35.760
something like that, like this is
a value added to the product, absolutely,

1807
01:58:36.520 --> 01:58:39.920
and then they'll probably just a month
later, let you buy it on

1808
01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:43.000
Xbox Live. It's like it'll already
be there. They'll just unlock it.

1809
01:58:43.079 --> 01:58:46.279
It's no longer an incentive to buy
the game first month. And so we're

1810
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:50.039
talking about the good will. Let's
talk about this EA Sports subscription model.

1811
01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:54.520
Yeah, so it's part of a
survey. Yeah, so there was a

1812
01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:57.079
survey that I got picked up by
a bunch of sights. It was basically

1813
01:58:57.119 --> 01:59:00.359
just they're looking to do a value
add for the sports games. That would

1814
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:01.479
I don't have all the details in
front of me. Like, one of

1815
01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:05.520
the more compelling arguments was that by
subscribing to it, you would get at

1816
01:59:05.560 --> 01:59:09.640
you would be able to download the
games ahead of the retail release, and

1817
01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:13.520
that upon the retail release, it
would you'd have to go buy the disc.

1818
01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:15.600
So if you were paying like say
thirty bucks a year for access to

1819
01:59:16.239 --> 01:59:19.920
all of the E sports games five
days ahead of release, but then upon

1820
01:59:20.079 --> 01:59:25.079
release, those digital versions don't work
anymore. You have to buy the disk.

1821
01:59:25.239 --> 01:59:28.479
But all your stuff, your saves, your achievements, will carry over

1822
01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:30.520
into that disc verse. You're paying
for a bunch of demos. That's not

1823
01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:33.000
the only thing. I'm just giving
you an example of, Like that's one,

1824
01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:35.159
right, but you don't get any
you don't get any progress out of

1825
01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:40.680
demos. No, but and it's
also like potentially the full version of the

1826
01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:44.640
game. Those also don't force you
to buy the I don't know, it's

1827
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:46.720
a weird there was. Some of
the other ones were like more regular for

1828
01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:49.399
if you think about it, like
this is for someone who was playing full

1829
01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:54.079
seasons of Madden. Sure, this
is for someone for whom five days with

1830
01:59:54.159 --> 01:59:58.359
the game is not enough to like, quote you finish a campaign that's not

1831
01:59:58.560 --> 02:00:00.720
the kind of sports game. Aren't
really like that. But you didn't like

1832
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:04.239
ten bucks off the retail copy or
anything, right, defful So you basically

1833
02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:09.640
just paying for a time limited period
of early access. Yeah. Like some

1834
02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:12.159
of the other stuff was you know, getting uh, you know, more

1835
02:00:12.159 --> 02:00:17.199
access to roster updates, ensuring that
you know DLC will carry over to the

1836
02:00:17.319 --> 02:00:21.680
next product rather than you having to
repurchase that DLC. Again, I don't

1837
02:00:21.720 --> 02:00:24.840
have all this stuff in front of
me, but the stuff it's not cheap

1838
02:00:24.920 --> 02:00:27.920
like they were the different price and
models we're going up to like twenty nine

1839
02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:30.640
ninety nine. But again, it's
not just for a specific game. It's

1840
02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:32.319
that, you know, if you're
buying all these A sports games every year

1841
02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:38.439
anyway, what's another thirty dollars to
The argument against that is that why can't

1842
02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:41.840
you they just make these value inside
of stuff anyway, rather than making you

1843
02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:45.840
pay thirty bucks on top of it. I'd be curious to see, like

1844
02:00:45.520 --> 02:00:49.319
if if they are talking about this
as a full on EA Sports package,

1845
02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:53.960
like what's the crossover from game to
game? Like? Yeah, where where?

1846
02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:57.439
Like? What games do they see
the most amount of crossover between there?

1847
02:00:57.479 --> 02:00:59.079
And the people are going to buy
all of them? Like are the

1848
02:00:59.159 --> 02:01:03.039
soccer fans all so buying Madden?
Like what is the like if if there

1849
02:01:03.159 --> 02:01:08.079
is crossover, what is the other
EA Sports game that the tiger crowd is

1850
02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:11.439
buying? Like, you know,
what where are they attaching they have?

1851
02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:15.279
I imagine that probably Madden is the
lowest common denominator of all of those.

1852
02:01:15.439 --> 02:01:19.920
Yeah, so it's it's gonna be
Madden. And but I'm where's NHL I

1853
02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:25.560
think is more than Madden at this
point? I'm sure I mean go worldwide,

1854
02:01:25.560 --> 02:01:29.720
absolutely for sure. But those those
titles don't do use sales anyway,

1855
02:01:29.840 --> 02:01:33.159
Right, nobody's buying last year's Madden
like those those things always seem to die

1856
02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:36.680
at the used game sales. Well, I mean yeah, yes, and

1857
02:01:36.720 --> 02:01:41.960
that's also because they shut down those
servers every year because oh yeah, and

1858
02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.359
the roster updates and not not just
a year out like they let it go

1859
02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:48.640
a couple of years. But it's
part of the reason that EA has all

1860
02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:53.119
of their own like the EA games
Net stuff. Why you have to have

1861
02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:56.560
that separate fucking log info your games
is because they're running their own servers.

1862
02:01:56.560 --> 02:01:59.039
They're not just doing it a peer
to peer. Well I thought they just

1863
02:01:59.119 --> 02:02:01.560
did that one time. Know,
they shut They EA puts out like shutdown

1864
02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:04.880
notices on their games for servers,
for all their stuff, not just the

1865
02:02:04.880 --> 02:02:09.199
sports stuff. Was the last one
that shutdown? Like NBA Live pretty regular

1866
02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:14.159
Oh they shut down NBA Live O
seven or now you can't get any of

1867
02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:16.039
those achievements. Yeah, there's that
one achievement, remember that. Yeah,

1868
02:02:16.159 --> 02:02:20.239
so that's so yeah, last year
that game shut down. And but I

1869
02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:23.840
thought that was I thought that was
like one sweeping thing. I didn't realize

1870
02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:26.199
that they do that. They do
well. They do those sweeps regularly.

1871
02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:28.920
They'll come out and say, all
right, here's a handful of EA games

1872
02:02:28.960 --> 02:02:32.600
that we're taking the servers offline for. It's a little gnarly A little bit,

1873
02:02:32.840 --> 02:02:35.960
yeah, a little bit. I
mean especially it's it's more gnarly for

1874
02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:41.479
stuff that's but I imagine it's it's
also like these are games that literally no

1875
02:02:41.640 --> 02:02:44.680
one is online. And also these
games come out annually, like they're the

1876
02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:47.319
model is built on. Sure,
the annualized stuff, I don't I don't

1877
02:02:47.399 --> 02:02:51.439
mind so much because if you are
into Madden, you're there for the truth,

1878
02:02:51.520 --> 02:02:55.279
not like dedicated to Madden No.
Seven. Well, you're true to

1879
02:02:55.319 --> 02:02:58.399
the like you like you want the
full football experience, you want the see

1880
02:02:58.479 --> 02:03:00.079
the roster and all that other ship. That's where I feel like they should

1881
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:03.039
go with the subscription stuff is like
here, you know what, guarantee me

1882
02:03:03.159 --> 02:03:06.680
ten years of Madden and give me
like a hundred bucks off or something like

1883
02:03:06.760 --> 02:03:10.319
that, and I guarante I will
prepay. I think that's what people kind

1884
02:03:10.319 --> 02:03:13.239
of want out of it, is
that these games shouldn't be sixty dollars every

1885
02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:16.760
year, considering how similar, like
how incremental the upgrades. Yeah, but

1886
02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:20.479
if like if you maybe pre pay
ahead of time for a subscription, you

1887
02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:25.439
know, get a discount one,
give me something for being a valued customer

1888
02:03:25.439 --> 02:03:28.720
who's gonna buy them every year anyway. So it just once you give me

1889
02:03:28.760 --> 02:03:30.159
a little little something here. I
mean, not not to sell them,

1890
02:03:30.199 --> 02:03:32.359
sure, I mean they do go
into the change mechanics, you know,

1891
02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:36.119
and stuff like that. But they
do find like the releasing it early is

1892
02:03:36.199 --> 02:03:40.079
sort of like EA's way, like
it is the way if those if those

1893
02:03:40.119 --> 02:03:43.159
games locked before you have to buy
the disc. But they're also sort of

1894
02:03:43.199 --> 02:03:47.359
implementing the technology now just to give
a big ef detail, like they're already

1895
02:03:47.399 --> 02:03:50.520
getting their users lined up, getting
used to it, and then one of

1896
02:03:50.520 --> 02:03:53.920
them once they can make, you
know, turn the switch. You know,

1897
02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:58.199
they're ahead of other publishers on on
doing that. So four or five

1898
02:03:58.279 --> 02:04:02.239
years and they're not on Xbox there
is already doing it. Yeah, whatever,

1899
02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:06.560
he has got their e A store. You're terrible things about it.

1900
02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:10.920
I bought one. I bought Spore
from them once never again. Oh yeah,

1901
02:04:11.319 --> 02:04:14.920
that's right. That was a nightmare
experience, wasn't. It charged me

1902
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:17.239
like an extra five bucks for doing
it too. Don't oh to be able

1903
02:04:17.239 --> 02:04:19.840
to download it in perpetuity through the
future, because it was one of those

1904
02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:24.319
like the weird stuff where when you
first download when when you first buy it,

1905
02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:27.199
like for the fifty or sixty bucks, you get it this one time

1906
02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:30.640
or like ninety days or something to
download the you know, install file.

1907
02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:35.000
After that it's gone. I don't
know that ship was weird anyway. Yeah,

1908
02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:42.039
uh, let's move on from news. Let's uh, it's nothing.

1909
02:04:42.039 --> 02:04:44.520
What's going on? What I was
gonna say about the PSN is a ten

1910
02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:46.560
weeks. Do you think Sony will
acknowledge it during an E three press conference?

1911
02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:53.680
Think Jack Trenton's gonna make some joke
about PlayStation Network going down? Depends

1912
02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:56.720
on how long it's down, Okay, I think that's my guess. Is

1913
02:04:56.840 --> 02:05:00.600
my guess is given how severe with
the breach teams or at least the implication

1914
02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:02.560
that they will not want to make
light. Yeah, this is not the

1915
02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:05.119
joking matter. Yeah, I don't. I feel like Sody's been okay in

1916
02:05:05.159 --> 02:05:09.720
the last two years of Yeah,
yeah, totally, Like but that's like

1917
02:05:09.840 --> 02:05:14.159
early leagues of shit. That's different
from, like you kind of clismic failure,

1918
02:05:15.680 --> 02:05:17.319
like something that a team worked out
for the last three years of their

1919
02:05:17.359 --> 02:05:20.079
lives, Like like, this is
a major blow to a publicly held company.

1920
02:05:20.279 --> 02:05:23.319
Know, they're not going to go
in there and joke. That's put

1921
02:05:23.359 --> 02:05:26.239
that out there, just kind of
thinking, thinking ahead of another another an

1922
02:05:26.279 --> 02:05:28.760
E three prediction, Yeah, well, I don't know, I don't know.

1923
02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:30.359
I'm not so sure on that one. See through we two No,

1924
02:05:30.560 --> 02:05:35.319
that wasn't me. No, No, I'm saying proprietary hdmi pora. How

1925
02:05:35.520 --> 02:05:44.640
hard is Jack threatened punching someone right
now? Just just punching them into ghosts?

1926
02:05:45.520 --> 02:05:48.279
Questions? How many people is he
punching simultaneously? I just imagined he's

1927
02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:51.680
got to line them up and just
punching through them every appendage. I suppose

1928
02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:57.560
he's got a Swiss playing like knife
hands, like kneeing a guy in the

1929
02:05:57.600 --> 02:06:04.159
gut. That's right, yeah,
justut And then he's put your hand on

1930
02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:08.680
the table. Maybe maybe hired Lance
Henderson and come do it with him,

1931
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:12.000
because you and hire that gouty to
do anything. He's like making a point

1932
02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:15.199
each time he does a finger,
you know, he's like, what do

1933
02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:19.359
we say when we started this?
We never have down stability, network stabilities,

1934
02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:27.560
like right through the top of the
get my surfs up. I mean,

1935
02:06:27.640 --> 02:06:30.319
all all the real calamity is going
on in Japan right Like that's where

1936
02:06:30.319 --> 02:06:35.039
all the infrastructure and that's what's going
on. What's going on. He's got

1937
02:06:35.159 --> 02:06:45.760
three sleeves rolled up right now,
Damn rolled up a pant leg. He's

1938
02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:48.960
like, shit, he's gonna he's
gonna buy home. He's wearing sandals.

1939
02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:55.359
He's living death row. Fuck?
Are there any new games this week?

1940
02:06:55.760 --> 02:06:59.239
Yeah? Dark Spore is out this
week. That exists. I hear good

1941
02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:02.680
things about that. Do you like? Yeah? If you like? Yeah,

1942
02:07:02.840 --> 02:07:10.800
Dungeon Crawlers set somehow in the Spore
that's got the sport Creature Creator Creature

1943
02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:14.279
Creator? Is that? Is that
retail? Is that box copy or that

1944
02:07:15.680 --> 02:07:17.960
everything? Can I get that on
this PlayStation three? Nope, that's a

1945
02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:23.399
that's a PC only, is it? Okay? P's the only product that's

1946
02:07:23.479 --> 02:07:26.920
kind of the only box thing worth
talking about that's out this week. UTA

1947
02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:30.239
is putting Outland out. That game
looks real good. Yeah, I've played

1948
02:07:30.239 --> 02:07:33.199
a little more of it. Uh
does it play as good as it looks?

1949
02:07:35.800 --> 02:07:41.840
I don't think I could talk about
that just yet. It does look

1950
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:43.640
really nice. I do really want
to I want to play it though,

1951
02:07:43.800 --> 02:07:47.079
Okay, acknowledge, I just want
to put that out there fair enough.

1952
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:51.319
But yeah, not not a lot
of retail release system riding hot off last

1953
02:07:51.319 --> 02:07:56.319
week. Keep playing Portal in Mortal
Combat. That should keep you happy,

1954
02:07:56.359 --> 02:07:58.960
at least for a little while.
Let's take a look at some older stuff.

1955
02:07:58.960 --> 02:08:01.079
I think this week. Maybe it's
so if we had some stuff last

1956
02:08:01.079 --> 02:08:03.560
week and the last week. Yeah, we we missed some stuff last week.

1957
02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:05.159
I now know that Sega is in
fact sending over a copy of the

1958
02:08:05.199 --> 02:08:09.800
conduit too, so we can check
that out, braffluent under the radar.

1959
02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:15.239
Yes, dude, if you if
you were not holy crap MK or portal

1960
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:18.720
last week, you stealths that on
shelves though that was on shelves last week.

1961
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:24.439
Okay, yeah, man, of
course I'm supposed to know this stuff

1962
02:08:26.000 --> 02:08:33.960
according to people, according to organizations
that sell those things. All right,

1963
02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:39.199
let's talk about some emails. Oh
man, every week, all this pressure.

1964
02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:43.920
I don't even I didn't even look
at even Viny I always Vinny always

1965
02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:52.800
just eyeballs you so hard to low
outs. I like that BombCast at giant

1966
02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:56.199
bomb dot com. First email comes
in from Jacob in Austin, Texas.

1967
02:08:56.319 --> 02:09:01.960
Dear BombCast with the wee success for
with the Weee's successor reportedly coming out about

1968
02:09:03.039 --> 02:09:05.359
this time next year. Do you
think this will force Microsoft or Sony to

1969
02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:09.680
move early into a new set of
hardware despite their recent statements that they believe

1970
02:09:09.760 --> 02:09:15.800
they have ten year machines, Can
we throw out the whole like ten year

1971
02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:20.279
cycle fallacy? Already. Like,
I don't think it's well, it wasn't

1972
02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:22.439
true during the PS two and it's
not true in the set of the p

1973
02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:24.680
S three. It's just a thing
they say. Well, I think when

1974
02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:26.960
they say that, they're not saying
we're not going to put out another piece

1975
02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:31.560
of hardware for ten years. It's
this thing will have a like irrespective of

1976
02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:35.159
anything else we put out afterwards,
this thing will will maintain for ten years,

1977
02:09:35.159 --> 02:09:37.479
which which has been true for the
PlayStation and the PlayStation two only has

1978
02:09:37.479 --> 02:09:41.479
been very good about supporting their hardware
even after they've moved on totally. There

1979
02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:43.800
doesn't mean there won't be a PlayStation
four for ten years after the PS three,

1980
02:09:43.800 --> 02:09:48.119
PlayStation two games came out last year, came out this year, the

1981
02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.840
sing Star games I thinks still come
out. Yeah. PS two games still

1982
02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:56.159
get produced. So like, that's
that's what they're really talking about now now,

1983
02:09:56.640 --> 02:09:58.359
But let's let's get to the actual
question here. Oh I thought that

1984
02:09:58.479 --> 02:10:00.920
was the question. No, no, no, I mean the real the

1985
02:10:01.000 --> 02:10:03.399
real question is this, does this
force their hand on the next system.

1986
02:10:03.640 --> 02:10:07.680
I mean, it's less about continuing
supporting the old system and rushing out the

1987
02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:11.840
next one. We talked about it
before, but I don't. I don't

1988
02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:15.279
think so. I think they have. They have R and D going,

1989
02:10:15.880 --> 02:10:18.319
have had probably had R and D
going for about two years now on their

1990
02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:22.439
next system, So I think I
think they're probably I would have. I

1991
02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:26.640
think I think a most because everything
I've been reading and I have heard about

1992
02:10:26.680 --> 02:10:31.840
is that they're projecting twenty fourteen for
like their their next stuff. My guess

1993
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:35.880
is they but they won't give or
they shouldn't give Nintendo two Christmases. But

1994
02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:39.039
I think Nintendo gets twenty and twelve
all of themselves. But I think it's

1995
02:10:39.079 --> 02:10:45.520
pretty realistic to expect maybe Microsoft m
pull the trigger by thirteen. I always

1996
02:10:45.560 --> 02:10:48.439
thought twenty twelve announcement twenty thirteen.
I mean, you don't think that this

1997
02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:52.800
like if they give them enough time
that this could be like the nasty Dreamcast

1998
02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:58.199
window of too late to one party
to relate to the to the next.

1999
02:10:58.399 --> 02:11:01.720
For Nintendo. Yeah, yeah,
it could be. I mean, grant,

2000
02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:03.199
I don't think they care. They're
not in the same position that Sega

2001
02:11:03.359 --> 02:11:07.039
was in. I just Nintendo.
Nintendo has much more goodwill with their franchises,

2002
02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:09.640
and their franchises sell much more than
Sega's ever did, and do you

2003
02:11:09.720 --> 02:11:13.760
think do you think the pandering to
the base in the way that the base

2004
02:11:13.840 --> 02:11:16.600
wants is enough to sustain Nintendo for
two years? Sure? Like they don't.

2005
02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:20.920
They don't need more like than a
couple of years out of this hardware.

2006
02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:22.560
Then they'll find a way to change
it up again. And keep in

2007
02:11:22.600 --> 02:11:26.960
mind, even though the wee has
not been selling great recently, Nintendo is

2008
02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:30.159
still liquid as fuck. Sure,
well, it's also sets. But they've

2009
02:11:30.199 --> 02:11:33.359
hit a ceiling. Sure, I
see they have eighty millions. I mean

2010
02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:35.199
that market had well from software wise, that market turned out to have a

2011
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:39.079
much lower ceiling on it than they
would have hoped. Yeah, but they

2012
02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:43.760
make their profit on every console,
right Nintendo does, Yes, but not

2013
02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:48.800
as much profit as zillions of copies
of games. So it's certainly desirable to

2014
02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:50.520
make money on hardware. But like
you really want to sell a whole bunch

2015
02:11:50.600 --> 02:11:54.640
of licensing feats, you don't have
to do anything for that. Yeah,

2016
02:11:54.640 --> 02:11:56.560
but they didn't pushing out schlock on
the shelves. And that's why, I

2017
02:11:56.600 --> 02:12:01.520
mean, it's it's it seems pretty
direct causing a fucking fact there. Yeah,

2018
02:12:03.800 --> 02:12:05.159
so so we think you know moreready? Three? I mean, and

2019
02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:09.239
so we like it's is it is
it gonna if it they managed to make

2020
02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:13.560
another phenomenon like We two, which
seems unlikely. But if they're able to

2021
02:12:13.640 --> 02:12:16.880
produce another thing that makes everyone freak
out the the same way that we did,

2022
02:12:18.560 --> 02:12:22.840
then I think you'll see stuff get
pushed up. That's all, you

2023
02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:26.399
know. But it's just really hard
to know. It's we're talking twenty fourteen.

2024
02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:30.479
That's that's a distance. But I
also just feel like we are.

2025
02:12:30.880 --> 02:12:35.319
We are in the goddamn wilderness of
of this industry as far as the cycle

2026
02:12:35.399 --> 02:12:39.079
is broken, Like the cycle that
we've been in for the last like fifteen,

2027
02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:43.680
yeah, twenty years, like doesn't
exist anymore. It's it's they you

2028
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:46.239
know, they did just do big
pushes for Connected Move, but I don't

2029
02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:50.239
know that that means they're not ready
to just go on to the next thing

2030
02:12:50.319 --> 02:12:54.439
already. I can't. I can't
tell. No, it's kind of terrifying.

2031
02:12:54.560 --> 02:12:56.880
It seems like these systems are still
making a lot of money, so

2032
02:12:58.079 --> 02:13:01.960
it does game or I mean that's
the thing that we wasn't able to do,

2033
02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:05.840
is that people buy lots of software
for their three six season few threees.

2034
02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:07.279
They don't do that on we and
I think they tend to want some

2035
02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:11.920
of that. I still keep fucking
buying DLC for Harmonics games for reasons I

2036
02:13:11.960 --> 02:13:16.840
can't even justify it byself. I
wouldn't bought the goddamn Xbox three sixty keyboard

2037
02:13:16.920 --> 02:13:20.159
over the weekend. Was I thinking, I don't know the key tar?

2038
02:13:20.439 --> 02:13:24.840
The yeah about that? Now?
The game stop bought at a store,

2039
02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:28.760
So that was that was? That
wasn't even like a drunk Amazon purchase.

2040
02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:31.359
No, that was I went to
several stores. I went. I went

2041
02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:33.640
to a best Buy and they didn't
have any And I'm like, all right,

2042
02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:37.159
what were you thinking after the first
time life told you you don't need

2043
02:13:37.199 --> 02:13:41.359
to buy this? Well, I
was really pissed at. Let me say

2044
02:13:41.359 --> 02:13:48.680
a thing or two about about best
Buy. All right, there's customer service

2045
02:13:50.239 --> 02:13:56.600
is important, at least at least
to me, Like if I'm gonna if

2046
02:13:56.600 --> 02:14:00.880
I'm gonna bother going into your physical
location and not just buy it from a

2047
02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:03.319
robot on the internet and have it
show up in my house a couple days

2048
02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:07.079
later, like I kind of want
some sort of customer service and watching two

2049
02:14:07.119 --> 02:14:11.119
people who don't know the products,
like at best Buy, it's the worst

2050
02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:16.520
because all of their like in store
computers, for the for people to use

2051
02:14:16.600 --> 02:14:20.279
for for like their employees like look
up products on it's just their fucking website,

2052
02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:24.279
and watching other people poorly use their
own website and in me, I'm

2053
02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:26.800
sitting here like I know your website
better than you do. I know how

2054
02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:31.079
to get the sole search results that
you're looking for. That should not be

2055
02:14:31.199 --> 02:14:33.520
the case here. You should have
some sort of cool text only screen where

2056
02:14:33.560 --> 02:14:37.119
you're like only hitting in like three
letter abbreviations and you're like like, oh,

2057
02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:41.920
yeah, that's you know, that's
it's been ID number us. You

2058
02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:43.760
know three six, five nine four
or five six seven eight. Yeah,

2059
02:14:43.760 --> 02:14:46.560
we've got three of those in stock
gets in the back. Look at one

2060
02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:48.840
of those four. You're like,
I want like that sort of raw data.

2061
02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:52.079
But they're just like typing in rock
band as one word and me standing,

2062
02:14:52.520 --> 02:14:54.399
no, it takes two of these
people. And then when when when

2063
02:14:54.439 --> 02:14:58.520
you guys says typing rock band two
words, and it's like just walk bad

2064
02:14:58.760 --> 02:15:01.520
yeah, and like the first page
come up and it's just the games doesn't

2065
02:15:01.560 --> 02:15:03.159
even go on to the next page
goes no, we don't have it must

2066
02:15:03.159 --> 02:15:07.760
be discontinued. Are these teenagers no, these are these are grown men,

2067
02:15:07.920 --> 02:15:13.800
and just I was just infuriated by
like, so your assumption is from from

2068
02:15:13.880 --> 02:15:18.760
you badly using your own company's website
is oh that thing must be discontinued because

2069
02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:20.880
I couldn't find it on the first
page. Yes, as far as walk,

2070
02:15:20.880 --> 02:15:22.520
I'm like, I wasn't even gonna
fight the issue. I was like,

2071
02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:24.399
okay, you don't want to sell
anything, great, I'm yeah,

2072
02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:26.359
I'm like, yeah, I'm done. I'm not. You didn't even point

2073
02:15:26.399 --> 02:15:28.760
it out. No, that's awesome. No, I'm like, yeah,

2074
02:15:28.760 --> 02:15:33.239
okay, No, I didn't need
anything from you today. Wow. So

2075
02:15:33.359 --> 02:15:37.439
then I went to the game stop, where where I found the keyboard was

2076
02:15:37.800 --> 02:15:41.199
even ten dollars cheaper than I could
have gotten it at Amazon. How much

2077
02:15:41.560 --> 02:15:45.000
forty it was? It was sixty
nine on Amazon and it was fifty nine

2078
02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:48.880
at the game stop. So the
copy just the keyboard. So I'm like,

2079
02:15:48.960 --> 02:15:52.079
fucking bonus getting a cheaper in store. Let's do this. And then

2080
02:15:52.159 --> 02:15:54.920
the dude recognized me and was super
cool about it. So it was just

2081
02:15:54.079 --> 02:16:00.439
like this is Wow, that's a
it's a win uh winning winning play winning

2082
02:16:00.520 --> 02:16:03.000
hand by a game stop in that
case. Yeah, just like we had

2083
02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:07.680
it cheaper. Dude knew who I
was. Wow. And I didn't even

2084
02:16:07.720 --> 02:16:11.600
go into that game Stop after them. So yeah, mark mark on the

2085
02:16:11.640 --> 02:16:13.039
board for fucking game Stop. I
know I shot on them and the retail

2086
02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:18.960
experience that I get from them pretty
often. Wow. But I'm man enough

2087
02:16:18.000 --> 02:16:22.720
to give one to games So I
will say they had it cheaper. They

2088
02:16:22.800 --> 02:16:26.520
had it, although I would have
I would have I would have torn that

2089
02:16:26.600 --> 02:16:30.720
store apart if they didn't have it. Should you should have asked the guy

2090
02:16:30.760 --> 02:16:35.200
to use his website just to test
the skills if they hadn't. That's the

2091
02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:37.600
thing that's I think. That's thing
is I think they have like real computers

2092
02:16:37.639 --> 02:16:41.319
back there. I think they can
actually look shit up and not just google

2093
02:16:41.360 --> 02:16:45.040
themselves gonna go to best Buy's website. Sometimes, you know, you don't

2094
02:16:45.079 --> 02:16:48.959
take any kind of solace in the
fact that you were witnessing the death of

2095
02:16:48.040 --> 02:16:52.799
brick and mortar stores. Well just
kind of maybe realized. Because I was

2096
02:16:52.879 --> 02:16:56.719
also over the weekend, I also
wanted to to watch all of the screen

2097
02:16:56.799 --> 02:17:01.760
movies to get ready for four,
which I then also went so I had,

2098
02:17:01.840 --> 02:17:03.719
I know, so I had to
Screams one and three borrowed from from

2099
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:07.719
Matt Rory, but they had Netflix
the second disc, so I'm like,

2100
02:17:07.719 --> 02:17:13.000
shit, i gotta figure out how
to get trying to find a DVD copy

2101
02:17:13.319 --> 02:17:16.280
of Scream two. It's not streaming, Uh no it is, which ended

2102
02:17:16.360 --> 02:17:20.360
up being what I ended up doing
was going through my Xbox and just streaming

2103
02:17:20.399 --> 02:17:24.239
it. But I was sort of
thinking, like I realized, like if

2104
02:17:24.280 --> 02:17:28.000
it's not a new release, like
where do you buy a DVD's there's there's

2105
02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:31.879
no place to go, yeah,
like game Stock or you know, best

2106
02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:35.200
Buy has a pretty meager DVD section
at this tower. There's no tower that

2107
02:17:35.280 --> 02:17:39.680
tear that doesn't exist, Like there's
you go. You go to Amazon if

2108
02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:41.280
you want an old DVD because it's
the only place that fucking still has them,

2109
02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:45.680
which the for best Buy. It
makes me using that kind of crazy

2110
02:17:45.760 --> 02:17:48.600
of like if you're gonna bother having
a physical place to get a thing,

2111
02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:52.920
then you should have the things to
get Like it's almost like it's almost like

2112
02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:56.000
they're like, oh, well,
no one's buying this older stuff from us,

2113
02:17:56.000 --> 02:17:58.159
because they're buying all from Amazon,
so we don't even need to stock.

2114
02:17:58.200 --> 02:18:01.920
It's like they they are agents in
their own demise. It's like Blockbuster.

2115
02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:07.479
Yeah, exactly, just pretending that
the model isn't eroding their previous model

2116
02:18:07.479 --> 02:18:11.639
and they don't have to change.
But but it's a completely different culture as

2117
02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:15.040
well. This is a big old
tangent, right, but like it's I

2118
02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:18.559
think it's different when we grew up
in an age where you're like, shit,

2119
02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:24.360
this store in like New York has
copies of Scream one on like DVD.

2120
02:18:24.559 --> 02:18:26.799
I'm gonna buy this right now that
that doesn't exist anymore, or like

2121
02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:31.200
it has a copy of like you
know, uh, Super Mario Brothers,

2122
02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:35.840
like sealed in a box. Like
that's crazy because there is no eBay,

2123
02:18:35.239 --> 02:18:39.239
there is no Amazon. Uh,
you have to find something physically, and

2124
02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:43.200
like once you find that like crazy
little store in your neighborhood or something.

2125
02:18:43.319 --> 02:18:48.520
But those crazy little stores existed,
existed the things, but they don't anymore,

2126
02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:52.600
like the good Will. But but
it got to the point where it's

2127
02:18:52.639 --> 02:18:56.639
like if I need something now,
I literally can't go to a store and

2128
02:18:56.680 --> 02:19:00.159
get it. They're all out of
business. I was seeing the thing like,

2129
02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:03.040
Okay, I hit the best Buy, they didn't have it. I

2130
02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:05.440
tried going to the Borders, which
is in the process of going out of

2131
02:19:05.479 --> 02:19:09.079
business, and they didn't have it, So I'm like, Okay, where

2132
02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:11.159
else do I go in this area? I'm just like, well, there's

2133
02:19:11.840 --> 02:19:16.600
no all the video rental stores have
closed down like that. It's it's a

2134
02:19:16.719 --> 02:19:22.239
it's a weird. It's like,
as media rich as everything seems to be

2135
02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:28.239
right now, actually trying to go
and buy physical media is fucking kind of

2136
02:19:28.360 --> 02:19:31.959
hard unless you're just doing it through
a robot. I don't know why you

2137
02:19:33.079 --> 02:19:37.879
buy physical and media when in this
case is because he's just streamed it.

2138
02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:41.959
In the end, Yeah, eventually
I was like, all right, everyone,

2139
02:19:41.239 --> 02:19:43.680
it's probably a lot cheaper. I'm
gonna three bucks. It was like

2140
02:19:43.760 --> 02:19:48.120
three bucks for the stream rental it
was in you know, t APHD.

2141
02:19:48.440 --> 02:19:52.520
You won, that wouldn't have gotten
any of that. And again, like

2142
02:19:52.559 --> 02:19:56.840
I'm struggling. I'm trying to support
this brick and mortar system and they're like,

2143
02:19:56.079 --> 02:20:00.399
no, ditch it, no we're
not. And I was actually kind

2144
02:20:00.399 --> 02:20:03.959
of blown away also, like I
feel like maybe this is another weird failing,

2145
02:20:03.479 --> 02:20:07.920
kind of blown away that there was
no reissue of those movies with screen

2146
02:20:09.159 --> 02:20:11.159
coming out. Well, it's it's
a tip. It's a typical thing.

2147
02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:13.600
You put out a new movie you
do, like you know, DVD and

2148
02:20:13.639 --> 02:20:16.760
Blu ray reissues of the old movies. Well, it seems like it's shame

2149
02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:20.600
like because you couldn't get those movies
on demand either, Like I thought at

2150
02:20:20.680 --> 02:20:22.520
least i'd be able to do that
and they didn't exist. Yeah, it

2151
02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:26.479
seems like maybe a little bit they
think that you want to get it after

2152
02:20:26.600 --> 02:20:30.840
the fact. But they are available
on like xboxes with the Zoom store,

2153
02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:35.200
on I stream three through Amazon on
that Roku. So so like that solution

2154
02:20:35.319 --> 02:20:39.840
exists. Scrammed you know, that
doesn't take up big box retailers, physical

2155
02:20:39.879 --> 02:20:41.799
stores, brick and mortar, and
we just solve that mystery. The only

2156
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:46.520
thing good about brick and mortar places
and big box retailers is they're usually next

2157
02:20:46.559 --> 02:20:48.479
to like an Applebee's or maybe like
a Burger King or something like that.

2158
02:20:48.760 --> 02:20:52.959
And you're in a car already,
So like that's that's that's not a good

2159
02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:56.719
thing. That's pretty pretty much the
only thing they got going for him.

2160
02:20:56.920 --> 02:20:58.159
Like, you're out there, you're
spending too much money already, might as

2161
02:20:58.159 --> 02:21:05.159
well just go to friday Is and
get some yourself. Yeah, the teenagers

2162
02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:09.920
just treating me like a piece of
shit. Sticks my face. Split this

2163
02:21:11.280 --> 02:21:16.319
blooming onion with myself. That's right, there's a right except now they put

2164
02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:18.680
except now they put the caloric content
on the menu on everything, So no,

2165
02:21:18.760 --> 02:21:22.559
I know how much blooming onion they'll
put it on any sort of major

2166
02:21:22.719 --> 02:21:28.120
change thing, right, restaurant,
Yeah, they've got to put like color.

2167
02:21:28.520 --> 02:21:31.760
Go into a Go into a fast
food place sometime. Go look up

2168
02:21:31.760 --> 02:21:37.200
at like the fucking value menu.
I don't want to see you won't eat

2169
02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:39.440
food ever again. Over time,
it was empirically shown to make no difference,

2170
02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:43.120
though they tested it in some markets
and some fast food places on zero

2171
02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:46.399
change in the buying patterns. Really, that's super interesting. I mean I

2172
02:21:46.559 --> 02:21:50.239
was thinking about it talking to Jesse. We should, like she and I,

2173
02:21:50.479 --> 02:21:54.559
we should make a site that charges
food by calories of food and see

2174
02:21:54.600 --> 02:21:58.440
if that, like a whopper would
be like seventy blooming onion would be across

2175
02:21:58.479 --> 02:22:01.280
the men. Yeah, I think
it's the worst. So like not necessarily

2176
02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:05.399
dollar per calorie, but like,
you know, how much how much does

2177
02:22:05.440 --> 02:22:07.959
this cost you to feed you this
many calories? I don't wonder if that

2178
02:22:07.959 --> 02:22:11.120
would change, but I will say
that that, like, even if it

2179
02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:18.520
doesn't change buying patterns, it does
increase overall shame. Yeah, you like

2180
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:24.719
it anyway. I can't believe I
just bought like two thousand calories worth of

2181
02:22:24.799 --> 02:22:28.680
saying, oh my god, prettier. A prettier word is awareness. But

2182
02:22:28.799 --> 02:22:35.079
yeah, well like I feel.
But though it's it's both my shamplebees,

2183
02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:37.200
it's it's shame speaking buy more.
At that point, though, are like,

2184
02:22:37.239 --> 02:22:41.680
well fuck it, I'm in anyway, pig. Just go ahead,

2185
02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:45.559
get a second one, do it, Just keep piloting it in whatever.

2186
02:22:45.600 --> 02:22:48.479
It's gotta be a human cap right, can only like just four thousand calories?

2187
02:22:48.559 --> 02:22:52.239
Man, I tried to discover it
this weekend. That's why you just

2188
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:56.879
never found it. Slick the lining
of your body so you just can't actually

2189
02:22:58.000 --> 02:23:01.879
saturate anymore. Sidebar really enjoyed Scream
four great, yep, because went and

2190
02:23:01.920 --> 02:23:05.799
saw in a movie theater. Much
better than two Dame three Nope, you

2191
02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:07.559
know what, much better than two
and three? And I was also a

2192
02:23:07.559 --> 02:23:11.360
little prosdent. It was three.
We turned that corner. Then Craven.

2193
02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:15.600
So you want to hear something crazy. I don't know who in this room

2194
02:23:15.639 --> 02:23:18.840
knows this. Wes Craven is seventy
one. That's about right, it's not

2195
02:23:18.879 --> 02:23:22.040
that crazy. It's in the seventies. I mean, you know the first

2196
02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:26.840
the first Nightmare on Elm Street,
which was not his first horror movie,

2197
02:23:26.239 --> 02:23:33.840
is like eighty three. Yeah.
Yeahs that you just imagine as timeless,

2198
02:23:33.879 --> 02:23:37.360
you know, like what's Craven's never
going anywhere. He's just making bad somebody

2199
02:23:37.559 --> 02:23:39.040
somebody. At some point, someone
will just buy his name and keep putting

2200
02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:43.120
out the movies. He has a
son. His son's making bad movies too.

2201
02:23:43.079 --> 02:23:46.079
His son. Did I saw a
Craven name show up in the last

2202
02:23:46.280 --> 02:23:52.360
he did? He did the remake
or did the sequel to the remake of

2203
02:23:52.399 --> 02:23:54.920
The Hills Have Eyes? Oh?
I heard the remake was pretty good.

2204
02:23:54.000 --> 02:23:58.399
The remake was fantastic. Yeah,
but that's ah right aha? Did Prana

2205
02:23:58.479 --> 02:24:01.319
three D? Yeah? And Mirrors, which is not very good? Yeah,

2206
02:24:01.319 --> 02:24:05.559
I heard that also, but The
Hills and Eyes is a good remake.

2207
02:24:05.760 --> 02:24:09.799
Should read more emails? Okay,
email, I feel bad, We're

2208
02:24:09.840 --> 02:24:16.280
like way past time and one email
retail tangent yea or yeah, it's it's

2209
02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:18.799
it's relevant. It's we had some
Grandma's cookies at the start of this podcast,

2210
02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:24.239
and we know that they're expired.
Uh, Michael m in Brooklyn,

2211
02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:26.920
Hey, BombCast. I was looking
at the cover of Portal two and couldn't

2212
02:24:26.959 --> 02:24:31.959
find a published insignia anywhere. I
know EA published their previous console releases.

2213
02:24:31.040 --> 02:24:37.760
Is Valve self publishing all their physical
media? Uh? Completely accurate. I

2214
02:24:37.840 --> 02:24:41.959
think it was more of a distribution
deal for the last couple, because it

2215
02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:46.280
is it. It's not part of
the A partners. I don't know that

2216
02:24:46.360 --> 02:24:50.159
for sure. When Valve first got
involved with them, like for the Orange

2217
02:24:50.200 --> 02:24:54.120
Box stuff, it was pre partners. Partners didn't exist. Well, actually,

2218
02:24:54.159 --> 02:25:01.200
partners has been around for I think
the modern incarnate and like the public

2219
02:25:01.280 --> 02:25:05.920
facing Carnation. That's what I mean
that when they were acquiring like Bullfrog and

2220
02:25:05.040 --> 02:25:09.959
dismantling those studios, like A partners
existed, it just was wildly more like

2221
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:11.760
an internal I mean, I guess, you know, I guess their relationship

2222
02:25:11.799 --> 02:25:16.559
with Criterion early on was probably a
partner's type thing because they did not own

2223
02:25:16.600 --> 02:25:18.719
that. I don't I don't think. I don't think Valve's ever taken advantage

2224
02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:24.799
of the full extent of the partner's
experience, like the marketing or anything like

2225
02:25:24.840 --> 02:25:26.719
that, which is I mean all
I mean all partners is to its fullest

2226
02:25:26.760 --> 02:25:33.000
extent, is basically a like developer
publisher relationship where they don't acquire the developer

2227
02:25:33.120 --> 02:25:35.280
or the ipsarily I mean maybe sometimes
the IP. But I think what is

2228
02:25:35.559 --> 02:25:39.079
the point is like Hea, he
loves to buy studios on own everything.

2229
02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:41.600
Well, and that's why like MTV
game Is partnered for rock Band, was

2230
02:25:41.680 --> 02:25:46.040
because there was no reason for them, as an essentially small publisher, to

2231
02:25:46.159 --> 02:25:48.760
acquire a distribution network. Right.
So that's what I was going to say,

2232
02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:52.159
that the rock Band thing was just
like he was helping them distribute that

2233
02:25:52.239 --> 02:25:54.040
stuff, but like MTV Games was
technically the publisher, yes, of the

2234
02:25:54.120 --> 02:25:56.600
rock Band stuff, And I want
to say the Valve stuff is more like

2235
02:25:56.920 --> 02:26:01.280
probably pretty similar. Valve is handling
much more of the operation itself. Yeah,

2236
02:26:01.360 --> 02:26:03.600
yeah, is helping you just put
stuff out anyway. I noticed that

2237
02:26:03.719 --> 02:26:07.120
when Portal three sixty came in here. Yeah, there's no EA logo on

2238
02:26:07.159 --> 02:26:11.799
that box anywhere, but nor when
you start the game up. Yeah,

2239
02:26:13.280 --> 02:26:20.040
but dude, I don't know.
That's a good question. Good question.

2240
02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:24.520
I know that I know that we
were contacted by e APR at least once

2241
02:26:24.879 --> 02:26:26.600
about that game. So they were
they were, Yeah, they were a

2242
02:26:28.280 --> 02:26:31.360
very very like backseat kind of role. It seemed like they also did a

2243
02:26:31.399 --> 02:26:35.159
lot of like the pr for Left
for Dead. Yeah, they definitely definitely

2244
02:26:35.360 --> 02:26:39.200
helped out with Left for Dead one
and two quite a bit. So maybe

2245
02:26:39.280 --> 02:26:46.040
just as Valve chooses to exercise it's
right to use them right, Well,

2246
02:26:46.040 --> 02:26:52.239
I mean they're they're clearly like airing
further and further into making steam beyond everything,

2247
02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:56.280
And they made their own that portal
TV add. Valve was gonna give

2248
02:26:56.319 --> 02:26:58.639
it to someone else, so they
decided to make it in house because they

2249
02:26:58.680 --> 02:27:01.760
can make changes faster. They've built
that TV add themselves. Really, Yeah,

2250
02:27:03.159 --> 02:27:05.639
they knew that if they gave it
to someone else in order to get

2251
02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:09.040
changes to the you know, the
company that would make that stuff, they

2252
02:27:09.040 --> 02:27:11.120
would take too long to make the
actual like real time changes that a company

2253
02:27:11.159 --> 02:27:13.959
like that was. They just made
the TV add themselves, all right.

2254
02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:18.360
Nextino comes in from Matt c Hey
bomb Cast, my good friend and bomb

2255
02:27:18.440 --> 02:27:22.559
Cast listeners. Sam got shot in
the leg with a shotgun while wearing a

2256
02:27:22.719 --> 02:27:28.000
Spider Man costume yesterday. Oh I'm
so sorry. I understand. His prognosis

2257
02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:30.360
is good, but he will have
to undergo a bit of surgery and have

2258
02:27:30.520 --> 02:27:33.719
some kind of recovery process. It
would definitely lift his spirits. Snow that

2259
02:27:33.760 --> 02:27:37.360
you're all aware of a situation and
are pulling for him sincerest, thanks,

2260
02:27:37.280 --> 02:27:41.719
So yeah, I don't think pulling
for him is the prop is the best

2261
02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:48.520
line there, Paul. Oh God, and he sent me a link to

2262
02:27:48.319 --> 02:27:54.319
a new story concerning us. I'm
sorry. His name is Sam Sam,

2263
02:27:54.760 --> 02:27:58.200
So Sam, assuming assuming this is
non hoax. Uh, goddamn Sam,

2264
02:27:58.280 --> 02:28:01.760
get better soon. Sorry that sounds
real bad. I hope he's just like

2265
02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.920
called a little stray buck or something
that it wasn't like a the story.

2266
02:28:07.000 --> 02:28:11.319
Yeah, the story here coming from
and it's a bad and it's a backstory

2267
02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:16.360
and NBC four I dot com so
this is I believe the local NBC station

2268
02:28:16.639 --> 02:28:20.520
for somewhere. This is a new
story about this is a new story about

2269
02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:22.840
this event. So maybe we can
find out why he was in a spider

2270
02:28:22.840 --> 02:28:24.399
mans. No, it's it lays
it out very plainly. A man is

2271
02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:28.200
shot while Colombs, Ohio. A
man is shot while filming a superhero movie

2272
02:28:28.200 --> 02:28:33.799
in a Clintonville home yesterday Sunday evening. Sam Vesti, twenty three was wounded

2273
02:28:33.840 --> 02:28:37.680
while a gun discharged Vesti costume to
Spider Man was with two friends who frequently

2274
02:28:37.719 --> 02:28:43.200
make amateur superhero movies. Authority said
medics responding to a home on the four

2275
02:28:43.239 --> 02:28:46.159
hundred block bla blah blah blah.
All right, so they were they were

2276
02:28:46.360 --> 02:28:50.360
making that didn't know it was loaded? All right? That's I had to

2277
02:28:50.399 --> 02:28:52.799
say, Sam, you're an idiot, but get better soon. Yeah,

2278
02:28:52.799 --> 02:28:58.319
I'm gonna have to go with you. Don't fuck around with the loaded Casey

2279
02:28:58.399 --> 02:29:01.760
may Age unknown was examining a shotgun
that was being used as a prop the

2280
02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:05.360
Three Fun The shotgun was not loaded. Maybe you should look in the chamber

2281
02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:09.239
and actually see. Yeah, that's
that's a rough mistake to make. Ask

2282
02:29:09.360 --> 02:29:11.959
someone that knows how to use a
gun. Well, well, I'm sure

2283
02:29:11.040 --> 02:29:15.000
these guys have been around guns.
It sounds like if they're whipping them out.

2284
02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:16.399
But like I'm gonna saying, after
one y'all gets shot in the leg,

2285
02:29:16.520 --> 02:29:20.799
I bet that they scale back the
amount of gun play one would hope

2286
02:29:20.959 --> 02:29:24.159
like in their project. That's real
lucky Sam, I counter blessings on that

2287
02:29:24.200 --> 02:29:28.000
one. He just got dinged in
the leg, because no doubt, damn,

2288
02:29:28.600 --> 02:29:35.200
that's a checking out. No Spider
Man movies worth that one. But

2289
02:29:35.280 --> 02:29:39.799
there was a Paul hanging over each
and every Spider Man production. Yea,

2290
02:29:39.520 --> 02:29:46.799
spider Man, there's the curse spider
Man. Spider Man, that's spider I

2291
02:29:46.840 --> 02:29:50.239
mean, I've looked a couple of
times. That's better to make sure it

2292
02:29:50.280 --> 02:29:56.920
hasn't Spider Man on Broadway post spider
Man two man, that new movie.

2293
02:29:58.559 --> 02:30:01.719
Man. Have there been e worts
from the new year first of the Spider

2294
02:30:01.760 --> 02:30:05.520
Man get well and Sam? Yeah, watch those guns look him up.

2295
02:30:05.920 --> 02:30:09.920
Either way, don't play with that
shit. It sell props. You just

2296
02:30:11.040 --> 02:30:15.920
saw that orange tip off or something. I don't do that either. It

2297
02:30:16.200 --> 02:30:18.799
just don't just don't Spider Man don't
need guns. Bad guys don't need guns.

2298
02:30:18.840 --> 02:30:22.799
Look around with guns. Come on? Yeah, in general, good

2299
02:30:22.840 --> 02:30:28.239
idea. Play some video games for
Christ's sakes for once. All right,

2300
02:30:28.280 --> 02:30:30.600
that's it for the show. We've
gone way too long, I call it.

2301
02:30:30.879 --> 02:30:33.399
Patrick. Thank you for coming and
joining us once again as always a

2302
02:30:33.399 --> 02:30:39.280
pleasure. Yeah, and uh hope
the site stays up for your second week

2303
02:30:39.360 --> 02:30:43.200
here news lose news is tough to
do without a side, but you know

2304
02:30:43.319 --> 02:30:46.360
it would always Google docs to the
rescue. It was exciting today to look

2305
02:30:46.399 --> 02:30:48.840
at the site and be like there's
a bunch of new news shit on here

2306
02:30:48.200 --> 02:30:52.200
because he was actually able to post
it, yeah, instead of just like

2307
02:30:52.719 --> 02:30:56.840
right up and then I guess the
docs save the file and then that'll be

2308
02:30:56.639 --> 02:31:03.600
so yeah. And uh, Brandon
Vinny, Yeah, don't sell your orange

2309
02:31:03.639 --> 02:31:05.600
tip off Ryan. You're right,
that's probably illegal. Yeah, I bet

2310
02:31:05.680 --> 02:31:09.079
that it is very legal. Yeah, don't do anything that he says.

2311
02:31:09.120 --> 02:31:13.760
Don't eat cheese unless you're around,
don't be a cheese eater, don't take

2312
02:31:13.840 --> 02:31:16.760
care of all Right, the show
is over. Thank you guys for let's

2313
02:31:16.760 --> 02:31:18.959
say We're back next Tuesday with the
other dishes of the jad Bob