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Usually do a combination of stuff,
right, But there's there's a lot here.

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So there's two that I'm gonna kick
to the back, and there's this

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first one that I'm just gonna put
all three together. So there's two three

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Sony stories and then just two mc
overall stories. All right, So we

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put Sony together because it's kind of
like a whole kid in kaboodle here.

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So we didn't cover this. But
after whenever me and Dylan didn't newscast,

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it was like on a Friday,
they dropped some article and some of like

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some of the changes going on Sony, where the Silk Show that's no longer

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Amazon, they're gonna shop it around. I think that show's like, Dad,

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it's not gonna happen. This was
more time but like, oh,

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like Speramaneur, that's happening, Da
da da. And then buried in this

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article they put that. And again
there's not been more talked about this.

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I'm sure there will be, but
buried in this article and it's from Hollywood

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They put that as of now or
from some certain date that Lord and

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Miller. They had this certain deal
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animation yet did but that deal's been
extended or changed or whatever it may be.

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And I guess the word going around
right now, so Lord Miller.

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Obviously they directed the leg and movie
that got them big. They kind of

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directed the solo movie. And then
I'll say that got kid kaboodle and then

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not no, not kikabile, that's
someone else that just got cucked. Yeah,

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I got kicked, it got cocked, It got kicked, it got

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cucked. Whatever came say where you
gonna think of it? Definitely did.

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And then obviously they didn't direct Spider
Verse, but they are pretty much the

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overseers of that universe beyond Across and
uh into right, So they they and

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they wrote them as well. So
that's been a big I think that's been

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like a big fan cast for a
while, like, oh, wouldn't be

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great if they would do that,
but that just never happens because we go,

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well, Sony's Sony, and that's
not gonna happen. But that's the

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word going around is that they are
now the overseer seis of Marvel Animation,

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television and film, and now I
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but I just wonder because we've talked
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say, how come they've not announced
anything past Craven and Venom, And I

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feel like this makes sense now because
maybe they're getting their ducks in a row.

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But also some other Sony rooms that
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around that article since we did.
Our last newscast was we've heard this before,

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but looks like it's getting doubled down
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Dance skip ahead twenty five seconds if
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really care it's just the plot,
no spoilers, but I guess it's Toxin.

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You know he's coming back. You
know we set him up in number

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two. He's going to be after
Peter Parker. So you probably thinking,

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man, this is exciting Spider Man
coming into the Venom universe crrectly and you

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can just wait a second, oh
yeah, yeah, wait yeah, line

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yeah, aget in line yeah,
appalling. What you can do is you

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get you think you're getting really excited, right, oh Spider Man? Which

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Spider Man is going to be?
No, it's apparently Talksin's coming after a

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ten year old Peter Parker because he
knows that he's gonna become Spider Man,

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so Venom's gonna protect him. And
now, in a separate story, the

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rumor is Sony and this. I
don't know if this is tied to Laurd

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Miller or whatever is that they want
to bring Toby and Andrew back, but

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it's not necessarily for the MCU,
so I don't know if that's like,

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oh, they could do their own
thing with them. We're gonna do this.

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The Planet says they they're working on
a new ideas to get them integrated

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with their universe. I don't know
if that means with the current ven Craven

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morbysing. I don't know if that
means what we're kind of hoping that.

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Even last week the producer said that
this Venom is the last Venom movie,

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So maybe that means Lord Miller are
gonna hit like sort of a reboot button.

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So throw a lot out here,
but I'm gonna go Kirkling because he

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had his hand up while the teacher
was talking. But he did have his

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hand up, so you got a
clarification. A question about the Sony stuff.

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Again, some of this is a
mix of like s Tier to like

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see Tier. So it's all over
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together in the Sony Power Hour.
Yeah, I know. The reason why

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I had my hand and said Toxic
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I have seen in theaters. I
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not remember that at all. That
is just completely wiped. Remember the cop,

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the cop that was af from the
whole movie and then at the end

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he gets hit. It was like
some symbiote juice or something symbio juice and

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then he's like okay, but like
he was just like they didn't really show

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like you would expect them to do
a post credit and like, oh it

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feels so good. They never did
that. They just show him like get

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hit, and you're We're like,
I think we even talk about this on

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the review. We're like, oh, he might end up being something,

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and I think he's the name of
the character that becomes Tox. And so

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yeah, they did set up talks
and very poorly en Venom too. Yes,

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thanks for the clarification there. Uh, there's not a lot in here

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that I really like from your news
that you're telling. Even Laura Miller Spider

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Verse guys, if they're like the
the big cheese now at Sony for the

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bad thing. It's not. It's it

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not like big names. I mean, Spider Verse is the big name to

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it. But unfortunately, you know, apologize to those gentlemen, but like,

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I just didn't really know how much
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therefore I didn't get like super excited
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I love those Spider Verse movies.
I think they're absolutely fantastic and hopefully

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they can really cook up some magic. And those were hierarchy roles that they'll

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they'll be and maybe not the best
choice of words there, but yeah,

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they'll they'll be on the thrones and
that that is exciting. I think I

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just fixated too much on the plots
that you're giving me that I was a

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little bit taken it back by.
I just I don't like when we're going

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back to like a younger version of
these characters and we have Venom that has

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to save. Yeah, it's just
these are pre them, right, This

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is not like their first move wasn't
like, hey, let's let's do Vetom

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three. I feel like this is
in response to more BSA Adam Webb and

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like, hey, maybe maybe Sony's
finally realizing we got to do something.

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And you look at Spider Verse movies
that are doing very well, especially that

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last one, maybe they're like even
if it's just them being dumb and like,

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oh they make money, put them
there, they might fall backwards into

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a win for ones. Yeah,
yeah, whatever it might be. Hopefully

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it turns out well. But just
that idea of like, I don't know,

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I think it's just too it's too
close to I'll pull like end of

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Joker for example, like when when
Joker is like somehow indirectly responsible to like

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Bruce Wentton's parents like dying, Like
well, we just like retroactively like change

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certain things for a certain story.
I think I just aren't really a big

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fan of when they do that.
But yeah, I don't know. I'll

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just I guess I'll wait and see
and judge it as it comes along.

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But uh yeah, no, no
two thumbs up for me on this never

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familiar given me if if they come
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they're not in for Secret Wars,
but we want to do someone with Toby

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and Andrew because I was gonna say, Oh, you're just gonna say,

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oh, just give them awn movie. But I'm just trying to say,

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like, I don't even know.
I just don't even know how that works

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when like integrated in the universe.
It's just like, yeah, we got

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that universe that I don't think many
people are into. Like the only thing

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I want from them is like,
hey, if they're not Pound on a

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Tom is their own Soulo films.
But I don't think we live in a

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world where that's gonna happen. Maybe
they're looking at this because they released all

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those Spider Man movies again, and
the hall ones have done the worst,

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and then the Toby and Andrew ones
have done better them. I could also

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argue that those hall ones have been
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the reason why people are gonna go
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see those two Raimy ones, but I

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wouldn't have gone back to see Holme
because, like I've just the first one

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came out in twenty seventeen, Like
I'm not dying to see Homecoming again,

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right, So, but I could
see that being a Soley move, like,

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oh, look at it. I
don't think I think there is money

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in them, but it's just and
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And that would make me feel good
because they do good with this multiverse stuff.

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So if they find a way to
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Like leading up to the film release,

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I just don't really trust the studio
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quality, even though it has like
you know, Toby and Andrew and I

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love their inclusion in No Way Home, but that was that was a different

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can of worms. And like even
just when you said that, the notes

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that I just saw, like Sony
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time. So yeah, it's not
really like a new thing. So it

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doesn't really do that much to to
spark some excitement in my life. But

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you know, if the day finally
comes and we do get that and it

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is an exciting periom, maybe get
some good script details and whatnot, and

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that's the thing it's like they want. But it's just like I don't know

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how bad they want it, you
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really want Toby and Andrew or specifically
yeah, because as I've said before,

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after now Way Home, they messed
up the play was you do exactly like

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what they did with Matt Reeves and
Patterson, You or Pattison, where you

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just give him a deal, make
him be producers, You pick who you

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want, like we'll work with you
to find a writer, a director like

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whatever, like you bend over backwards
to make it work. And I feel

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like they're not, or if they
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poorly, and of course I like
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I don't believe for a second Andrew's
coming back unless there's like a good story

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attached. Yeah, Toby, I
think as long as the check's big enough,

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he'll be back. Like I think
Toby could fight like Eddie brought like

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Toper Grace's bet him again and he'd
still be like, well, as long

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as the check clear as I'm there, Like I don't think Toby whole Like

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I'm not saying he has an enjoy
spart man. I just feel like Andrew's

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more like artistically motivated, where I
don't think Toby is as much. I

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think he's down for kind of whatever. You know, he makes some good

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points about Toby, I feel like
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it just seems like the like the
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around that No Way Home time it
was fire hot and you never just like

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No Way Home. How many years
ago is that now? Twenty twenty three?

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Three years? Oh wow? Three? No, you said how many

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years? I said, okay,
sorry, I was saying twenty twenty and

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then you said, yeah, twenty
twenty one. It was the movie that

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brought back the box office, and
yeah, they missed on all that.

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And now Emma Stone it's gonna cost
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oscar, So she's gonna cost more
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You know, they makes her first
again, first which one oscar? What

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was their first oscar for a Lawland
right? Okay? Yeah? And then

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just for four things now, so
again that rate's gonna go up. Yeah,

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and then Spider Man Movie with Andrew, she'll get an oscar for that.

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Wow, that's huge, guy,
This is what it's called. Spider

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Man Movie with Andrew. That's probably
the placeholder name. So Dylan, there's

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a mix of this stuff we've double
before. That's slightly new. There's some

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new stuff in there. How you
feeling? What do you what? I

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got a second question asked, but
you go first. It would be an

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overstatement to say that I'm on the
fence. This is all. This is

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all not looking good for me,
This is not exciting. The Venom thing,

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I'll quickly throw it aside because I
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So like that plot sounds like something
they would do. Sure, I don't

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know, but I haven't seen that
second one yet. Does it excite me?

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Not really? I don't know who
toalxin is. I feel like i'm

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pretty knowledgeble on Spider Man. I
don't know that character though. So the

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Child of Venom and Carnage, well, it's all right, that's kind of

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cool, but yeah, not that
exciting. Stronger than them all, Toby,

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Toby and Garfield, they're not coming
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back to the Sony Verse. Oh
so okay, I was gonna say,

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you're not as zero percent on like
Secret Wars and stuff. No, No,

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that's that's looking prime. Yeah.
I think in the Sony Verse,

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though, I'd go two point three
percent chance. It's very unlikely that they

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would do it. And are you
talking about just strictly the Veni verse or

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just anything like even Toby doing a
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that's a like dead in the water. I yeah, I don't think Toby

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would want to do that through the
Sony side of things right now, nor

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Garfield. I don't think either of
them would. So if that was a

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BS meter question, yeah, it
would be very low odds on that one

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happened. I think with Toby,
the not the only way I think a

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good way to get him back,
because I think you gotta have the whole

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gang back, though, like Don
says, to be on board, Raymi

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like you gotta go, she's coming
back, and she just no, she's

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lying. No, she said no. You know why she's not lying because

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she says they pay really well,
so that she said that legit interview.

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She's like, I would do you
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like her stock just went up after
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the time, Now's the time,
you know. I don't know, we'll

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see, we'll see, Raymi.
I just feel like if you get the

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three of them together, you know, because like, hey, we live

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in a world where somehow what is
it to thousand and four? So Ramy's

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in Marvel in Marvel like Disney Marvel's
backbucket, But I don't I don't see

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him switching sides again. Twenty two
years later, we're getting a Lord of

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the Rings movie with Peter Jackson any
circus and those people back right, it's

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not impossible. And I think if
you're putting on the board Spider Man four

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and Gallum the Hunt for Gollum,
which one am I picking in the draft

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every day, the movie draft,
it's spreading for every single time. As

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far as what what was? How's
Sony doing money wise? Like do they

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have the money to burn through and
pay all these people a lot of money

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to do this stuff? I think
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don't make so much money, like
Venom makes a good profit, Spider Verse

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does okay, but then there's other
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Across was huge. Across was like
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and then the last two Spider Man
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like a mixed bag. I guess
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toddling and stuff, right, Yeah, so personally from him, he makes

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it and they take it right back
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know, Phil Lord and Chris Miller, not people I'm very familiar with,

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but I went to the great old
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the Spider Verse stuff. I feel
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have on your resume. Like to
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to be like kind of the leader
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a lot of animated stuff, which
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maybe they're not as well rounded as
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picking out some stinkers here, but
they also produce, They produce strays,

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They produced Cocaine Bear, so they
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and I don't know what a lot
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the current Sony does like the Spider
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gave them a lot of money to
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the live action, like just the
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because there's so such a lack of
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there's gonna be three Venom movies,
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some of these characters like Morbius Madam
Web haven't been in in terms of like

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the GA and understanding who those characters
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they're bringing any Madam Web people back, but maybe they want to let it

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was Morbous, I don't know.
I think you could easily integrate him into

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like a Spider Man movie, bring
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from the old Guard. So I
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and like, I think Tom Hardy
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think that's a good call if they
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box office perspective and that he's just
a big star. So yeah, I

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think they could cherry pick and people
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don't know, I feel like there's
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casuals in terms of like, oh
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it in its own universe? Is
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it just his own set on the
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stuff. We know what it is, of course, but I think you

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can kind of get away with doing
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do a reboot. But if they
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which I don't think there's many,
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could see them just like, yeah, don't acknowledge the man of Web stuff,

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but put it in the costume and
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just recast her and not worry about, Yeah, the optics of like,

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oh there's another character that just make
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the GA just looks at it all
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because then yeah, all those off
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and stuff. You're so I don't
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I was gonna ask you. How
would you like what your next step would

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some stuff, change other things and
whatnot. What about you, Kirkle and

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what would you you know? I
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yeah, just like I don't think
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now. I think it's one of
those things where you do, Okay,

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start your new universe. What are
the movies you want to make? You

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want to make probably hopefully a Spider
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random characters as the leading character.
And I don't know, maybe like they're

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they've done one or two of these
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and you bring a venom in and
you can bring Tom harder, but

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like it doesn't have to be immediate. You know, you just keep them

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in the keep them on the bench
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for when you need them some things
before you go Kirkland Strewer, Mike says,

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Shanley Woodley could easily come and play
Finally MJ or Finally play MJ.

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She could. I still think the
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something, and yeah, especially because
I just feel like if we get a

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Spider Man four or Amazing spider Man
three, they're like a fuller center off.

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I don't think it's like and here's
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I guess she I would be just
find her. Who is Shalne Woodley?

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She filmed scenes, but they cut
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was supposed to be an amazing SPERIERN
two. If you look it up on

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Google, you can find her.
She had scenes with Gunn and Stacy,

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she had scenes with Peter and everything. So yeah, that was supposed to

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be something always says he won't come
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I don't think that's gonna happen.
Getting the charter money probabs some of the

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earlier s pups insane that they have
Craven the Vault, which the studio I

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can'mera who was a producer of the
movie or a CEO camera who was so

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just take it away from me completely, but it was someone associated that movie

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said they moved into Christmas because they
think people are gonna want to go see

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it again and again, which sir, I'm telling you Christmas people are not

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gonna want to be seeing Craven over
again. Then again, that's just like

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I'm so curious, so that's gonna
do. And then yeah, Mike brings

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up a very sad point Keen Vultures
is forever trapped and that's Sony worse.

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Now that'd be when I just would
be fine, just forget and just put

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them in there. But something to
a spider Man, right mm hmm,

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same thing you correctly. Before we
move on, what would you if you're

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a Lord Miller and they're saying not
even just what do you do? Like

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what let's say it does and with
Venom and Crave not and I just like

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those only movies production then now like
you gotta clean slate, like start bringing

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in some some hood spot here,
some start bringing in some like success to

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these movies that aren't just Venom and
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Uh? I mean, I like
what Dylan was said, where you

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just can maybe focus on Spider Man
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you know, I like Madam Webb
for where she's appeared in different media,

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is not the full length feature film, but maybe stick to just some some

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more well known names, and I
think you can kind of expand off of

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that. I thin I think it's
not working out where they're trying to introduce

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a new well not a brand new
character, but a character that's not very

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well known to the general audience and
then just try and do like a single

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film with them. I think maybe
more collapse could could work out more.

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I know, you can really run
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you know, multiple at least somewhat
well known actors portraying like certain characters as

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opposed to just doing one big bill. But yeah, I don't know,

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because I do, I do want
to live in the world that they can

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just like tell a bunch of different
Spider People stories that isn't just Peter Parker,

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like whether it's who like whoever.
But I'm trying to Spider people though.

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That's the Yeah, that's that's exactly
what I was going to start doing.

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I was still you mentioned that that's
not really happening anymore. I want

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to live in that world that we
can get those projects and then maybe somehow

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be connected but not necessarily like at
the end of each project linking to like

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we're gonna see them in this next
project, like have this world that is

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connected, intertwined or whatnot. But
maybe it's like a I don't know down

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the line when they have like a
big almost Avengers like meetup. Because there

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is just so many fascinating Spider People
that you could really do like a full

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universe with just them, but I
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And at this point, I don't
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Spider Man project because it's been so
long since I've seen just that done really

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well. So Spiders movies, you
know, Yeah, those those are like

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the exception, Like I want to
have like Spider Gwen from like those stories,

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and just focus on her adventures.
Like I am so much more interested

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in that than Craven than Venom three, knowing what we're what we've gotten,

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where we're going, and just just
yeah, like I don't really see a

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lot of shininess on the horizon.
So I have pretty damn low expectations right

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now, which is really unfortunate because
Spider Man's my guy, and just like

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those characters that come from that universe
is so interesting. I mean, I'm

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wearing wearing a web hat right now, and I'm like, I have no

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faith in the webs Web universe.
Well, I kid, you have faith.

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Obviously. It's like gonna be five
games suproduced, but I have Spider

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Man four. I think they're gonna
I think they'll make sure it's at least

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quality, you know, start level
stuff in there. I like, you

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know, is there any of those
things more than throwing Daredevil in there for

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it to be quality? No Daredevil
auto paths for me, one scene,

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but no. But I feel like
for you, Kirk, at least like

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the Hall of Movies you've liked to
really enjoy. Oh yeah, I love

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those. It's been it's been a
while though, and like it's not like

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we have a new one coming out
next year. The rumor is that's what

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they want, is they want out
for twenty twenty five, and they're not

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even shooting. There's some distance from
what they want. Is there are four

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movies and four MCU movie next year
with Spider Man. So the rumor going

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right now is that Blade and Fantastic
Forgan pushed, Blade will just get pushed.

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Blade is never coming out. Apparently
it's going in that movie. Yeah,

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that was I didn't include the notes, but some other MCU stuff was

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that it's going through rewrites again and
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which, man, that movie is
gonna just fucking so not ready for that

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review. Like again, I'm very
excited for I don't know what the cutoff

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point is, but that Disney plus
stuff we have left like Agatha, Ironheart

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and then like the movies that were
filmed. I guess it's just Captain America

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because Thunderbolts they did stop before the
strike. But like Captain America is in

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that window of like, well,
we just gotta get out there, we

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gotta we gotta get movies, gotta
get flowing. And yeah, and that's

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why again, what you said Kirkling
from what they want what happened. I'm

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sure they want Toby and Andrew.
That'd be great. But I get with

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this rumor, I always have to
point out and this is still like a

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C plus rumor, but still I
always gonna point out these rumors are never

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ever about them getting a solo movie. It's them in Secret Wars, it's

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them in Spider Man four, it's
them integrating the Spider Man universe. I

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still, if I could have one
question answered, I'd have to think hard.

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But to Kevin Foggy and we're in
a room, drink a little line.

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Ricky's we're having a good time.
He loves Adrenna chrome. He's talking

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about Jenna Chrome two. I will
put you in there, Foggy. We'll

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recast so you can be Hunter.
Now you'd be producer. But if I

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get asked in one question, I'd
have to sit down and maybe we'll do

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that cast one day, or just
like a subject of Brandon bar like what

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will we ask certain developers, directors, whatever. But I think at least

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in the top three would be what
is the deal with Sony and the MSU

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and Spider Man? Because I just
want to know are Sony's hands tied or

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are they fucking idiots? Because if
they were to tell me, hey,

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they made some deal where as long
as there's sharing, you can't do a

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solo Spider film like Spider Man's film, whatever that is, Man, Miles

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Moraus, Tolby, whatever it is, then I'd say, Okay, I

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don't know if that deal was a
good idea, but at least I understand.

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But if there is never a deal
in this whole time, they could

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be pumping out Gwen's Stacy movies or
Miles Morause movies. I will never ever

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understand that even just cast a bunch
of no names, find good actors no

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names, keep it to a lower
budget and go like look at Apes,

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Like the Apes is like still a
big budget, right, but that's one

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sixty. They kept away from that
big two hundred plus because there's no stars

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in that movie and no disrespect to
the people. I think they're oh Antigue

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fre Allen, they're gonna become stars
because they're great, but they didn't have

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to break the bank to go and
like, well who's the hot young star?

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And I know, so it's just
like I would love to know because

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again the new rumors like all they
want to integrate in the Sony universe,

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you would think, and they're gonna
make soul films. So that's never it.

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It's never talking about for it.
It's people asking Kirsten or asking Sam

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and they're always like, yeah,
i'd like to do. But there's never

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rumors of like, oh they're trying, and it just I don't know,

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I would love you know, and
because maybe it's them too, maybe they

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go all well with Holland. We
don't want to put a competing movie up,

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but at this point we're gonna be
four or five years from No Way

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Home. It wouldn't have been competing
at all, you know, like the

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amount of space in between the times. So there's a multiverse out there that

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we're reviewing. The live action Gwen
Stacy movie starring Hunter Schaeffer, a super

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banger of a film. Times talk
about her is the main villain who so

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they got that, Yeah he could
be a good Harry Osborne. Oh hell

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yeah, just big it's just Sulburn. But he's yeah. Then again,

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I don't they do that because like
because then you're gonna have Tom Holland and

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Jacob Alordi who's India's ex like having
to be best friends and I don't know

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that's like it's a multiverse though,
you know, it's like and Tom never

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got together. So yeah, I
love that situation. Yeah, just use

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the entire euphoria cat Actually no,
I swapped that a LORDI take him out.

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Austin Abrams, fantastic, Harry Osborne
pick you could play like the friendly

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Harry lose it. Yeah, who
could? Lord Goblin? You'd be great

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Goblin? Know what? For some
reason, I don't want this, Yeah,

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Greg gob I don't want this,
but I feel like a LORDI would

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do a killer j Jonah Jameson.
Like, I'm not saying you do that

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with Jacob A lordy Oh, I
could see him with the CHOPU be a

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good like Tombstone. Okay, you
don't want to be ja jon but you're

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gonna make him Tombstone. I don't
think he's a good casting for j Jonah.

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Do I want to be Tombstone?
No? I want to have a

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bigger role. Let's let's find a
different one. Who else with that?

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So it's Eric Dane Craven Is that
Eric Dane would be a good Craven.

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I think Eric Danees the craven even
though he's super big white guy. No,

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make him, make him Norman,
make Norman, make Eric. You

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can just do that. Actually,
make Jacob a LORDI Harry Osborne and make

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same scene pissing on his glider and
everything like that. I gotta clean up.

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Boy, oh man, oh boy. And I don't think it works.

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Maybe he can just be adopted,
but I want uh maybe not.

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I was gonna first may make Coleman
Domingo Uncle Ben, but maybe I want

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a bigger role for him. I
mean, like Jacob already could also just

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be like Eddie Brock. I could
see that as well. Yeah, that'd

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be a good one. He could
do a good Venom. Yeah, yeah,

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I know. I like that.
You know what com Thompson? Yeah,

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flat, you know Colon Thompson become
agent, does become agent Vinom.

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Yeah, Coleman Domingo, I actually
am seeing like I could see him do

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a great doc Hawk. I could
see him with those glasses being that nice

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scientist. That That's what I'm going
with. Yeah, this is getting me

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excited. And just when I think
of the reality of what Sony is compared

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to where our imagination. Yeah,
there there's a Brandon buton they take the

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your fore cast and put in the
twenty different franch as Pirates, Star Wars,

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Lord of the Lord of the Rings. Oh my god, we're gonna

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save this because if your foury three
ever happens, which it's not gonna but

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if it does, we're gonna do
a bread Butter that month. And yeah,

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like making the whole e forycast into
the Lord of the Rings characters.

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That's that's a fun right there.
So oh and the other thing I was

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gonna say about Venom, Yeah,
that sucks. We've heard that before.

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What is even more incompetent is it's
so funny. There was rumors about Madam

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Webb that it was gonna feature a
plot about a young baby Peter Parker,

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and then it didn't and they reshot
some stuff. And we always talk not

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always, we just talked about it
once. It's been the mad Red review

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where it's weird where they like hint
around Peter Parker not showing them. I

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think at some point somebody just went, oh man, this is very similar

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to that Venom movie we're doing.
We should change this, and it's just

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why That just shows the state of
Sony inspier Man. Why instead of doing

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E Spiermen, we were doing two
movies focused on baby Peter not focused,

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but an element of baby Peter Parker
and ten year old Peter Parker, and

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both the more about a villain trying
to kill them because they got powers in

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the future, you know, just
crazy. Let's see I break, we'll

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talk about some trailers. We'll be
right back.
