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This is Later with Lee Matthews,
The Lee Matthews Podcast more what You Hear

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Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive. The
nominations are out. Film critic Ryan Jay

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is with us to talk about these
nominations, and Ryan, I apologize in

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advance. We here in Oklahoma are
just a tad bit giddy for all the

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love the Oscar seemed to be showing
Killers of the Flower Moon as well you

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should. That film is a masterpiece, agreed. And one of the things

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that I love about it is when
I see DiCaprio with de Niro, even

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when they're in character so beautifully in
character. I sit there and I see,

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Okay, this is the master and
the student. This is you know,

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Plato Aristotle going on here. It
really is, and especially under the

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direction of one Marty SCORSESEI who just
you know, under the title of most

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nominated director in history, previously tied
along with Spielberg. It's a shame and

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it's a little bit of a snub
that Leonardo was not nominated in the Leading

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Actor category. But that film,
wow, it really is. That's the

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kind of movie, even though you
know, everybody knew it was long going

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in but a little bit you know, you know a little bit about the

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premise and that it's a true story, but you go in and at every

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moment you're almost leaning forward into the
screen. It's so well done for a

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movie to be as long as it
was and not feel that long. We've

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all been to the movies that were
ninety minutes and felt like they were seven

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hours. So what they did with
Killers of a Flower Moon is a true

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accomplishment. Well, speaking of which, that's how I felt about Oppenheimer.

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I felt it was about forty five
minutes longer than it should have been.

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Really okay, that's cool. I
you know, interesting about Oppenheimer is the

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way it unfolds. You know,
there's a lot of use of color in

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black and white and jumping back back
and forth in time and unfolds and even

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when and this is so typical of
Christopher Nolan as a director. And I

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do believe he'll win the and the
film will in Best Picture, but you

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know, he kind of he makes
very interesting creative choices to his credit,

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but also but sometimes at the dismissal
of what the audience would really want.

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You know what I mean in terms
of sound design, in terms of what

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we're seeing in certain moments, and
what you know, we want to see

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isn't necessarily what he's showing us,
because he's controlling what we have access to

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see through the power of what he
chooses to film in that moment and edit.

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Well, that honestly is why I
didn't enjoy the film. I felt

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the emphasis was more on the Communist
Party and the Communist Party potential influences than

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what actually did happen and the coming
together of two extraordinary men who are completely

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different, diversely, but they work
together for a common end. But that's

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not what they're judged upon. I
realize that they're judged upon how complicated it

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is and the story. And Robert
Downey June, you're almost unrecognizable, so

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good, Oh, no good.
I mean that man can do no wrong

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as far as I'm concerned. So
yeah, And he's been sweeping awards season,

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so he is the one to watch. But did you see Poor Things?

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I did not yet. I've not
seen that yet. I read about

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it. I do want to see
it, and I'm interested in it.

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Yeah, I'm not necessarily recommending it. It's not for everyone because it's directed,

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you know, by yu Roslanthemos.
And it's he's like an experimental filmmaker

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that somehow broke mainstream. I mean, there are plenty of them out there

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that do great work, but somehow
he just really sort of cracked the code.

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I guess after Olivia Colman won Best
Actress for the Favorite, one of

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his previous films. But it's just
what Mark Ruffalo did though in that supporting

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role category in Poor Things is really
really spectacular if you're a fan of his.

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Ah, but the movie, the
movie is not for everyone. Ryan

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Jay is with us. We're talking
about the Oscar nominations. I came home

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Friday and I had to work late. Lovely wife was sitting down in front

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of Barbie. My first instinct was, oh my god, no, And

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within a few minutes I was hooked. I was really entertained unexpectedly by that

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film. It's a good film.
That's the thing. It's that's the achievement

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is that it surprised us, you
know every other I mean, based on

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the intellectual property alone. It's it's
a surprise and it's interesting. It almost

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souldn't have been what it is,
you know what I mean, Like we

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don't when we see animated family films
or we see other live action family films,

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they certainly are winners if they can
appeal to all audiences, if they

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can have innuendo that speaks to the
adults in the room but still please the

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children in the room and the audience. You know, But what Bobby did

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on so many different levels in messaging, in color, in fantasy, in

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sound and music and story and plagnancy, it's like kind of unbelievable. And

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that's why. And also when that
happens, it doesn't always become a billion

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dollar, record breaking box office hit. So it is a real cultural moment

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and phenomenon in of itself. And
I'm glad you gave it a chance because

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it's certainly entertaining. That last scene, which I won't give away to me,

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was the best punchline of the whole
movie. Her last scene, Right

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as they went cut and the credits
rolled, I was rolling laughing. Yeah,

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yeah, seriously. I mean,
if we want to talk about the

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difference between fantasy and reality, I
mean, have at it, right.

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Ryan Jay's with Us, one of
America's most popular, nationally syndicated entertainment critics,

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were talking about the Oscars. There
seemed to me to be a lot

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of Best Picture nominees and an extraordinary
number of movies that were be considered comedies

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nominated. Yeah, that's a really
that's a really good point, because that's

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that is kind of rare. But
we do see some comedies, but I

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think they're also the kind of dramedy, if you will, And I think

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that turns really happens. That happened
in the genre of romantic comedy recently.

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Certainly we never really see those nominated
for anything when we talk about award shows,

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but just in general, in terms
of film genre, romantic comedy was

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one of the most popular genres in
history, but it somehow became stale,

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you know, in the early part
of the millennium, right, and we

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saw less and less of them,
or we'd see them and there would be

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a moment where it's it's cut with
some kind of tragedy, and that's sort

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of justified making a new rom com
because the formula has just become so stale,

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you know, where boymet's girl loses, girl gets you know, and

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predictable. So now we're seeing that
with comedies as well, where they're they're

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less comedies and more dramedies and less
of course they're a straightforward, will feral

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comedy. You know, a lot
of these kinds of comedies are more i'd

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say dramedies. But yeah, that's
that's even rarer to get in this Best

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Picture category. It's like they're sneaking
it in because usual. And I say

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that because it's very rare. I
don't think a comedy has one Best Picture

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ever, or if they have,
it's very rare. Gosh, I can't

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even think of one. I mean, as it is horror to win.

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That was a surprise that we built
back at and talk about the Lambs.

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Yes, absolutely, well, the
Oscar nominees are out, and before we

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go, I guess we need to
talk about Best Actor and Best Actress categories.

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Yes, definitely Leading Actor. I
mean I think it's really up to

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Killian Murphy or Paul Giamatti for the
Holdovers, or Killian Murphy's or Oppenheimer.

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It's between those two. There.
Actress in a leading role. You know,

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God blessed in that Benning, but
I don't think she stands a chance.

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It's going to be between Emma Stone
for poor things who's been sweeping and

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it really is sort of the role
of a lifetime just because it's such a

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again talking about that director and how
experimental he is. But the other interesting

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and deserving performer in that category is
Lily Gladstone, the first Native American acting

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nominee in history for Chillers The Flower
Moon. That's that's who It earned My

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vote. Well, she checked out
let really have it, share the love

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well, and she checks all the
boxes as well. She's it would be

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a first. The film is complimentary
to her story and to the story of

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Native Americans, and it illustrates it
all. And I know the Academy likes

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that kind of thing when they vote
absolutely, I mean, that's good for

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us to get the you know,
the first not only first nominee, but

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the first winner. I mean,
I hope they go in that direction.

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To be honest. We will see
Ryan Jay, one of America's more popular,

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nationally syndicated entertainment critics. Check out
his website Ryanjreviews dot com, and

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we'll see what happens come March with
the oscars. Thank Lee, thanks for

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