Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Boys review. This
is episode four, season four, the Good Double There of the Boys.
I'm the clown Prince of Squirting Tres now I'm joined by the whale Cake.
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episode four here, I think this was another really good episode. I don't
think it like I was gonna say great, and I could probably even say
great. I feel like I want to save great for when it's some of
those like all Timer Boys episodes, Like if I were to make a list
of the top five episodes, this wouldn't be in here. But it's like
kind of everything it needed to be. I think there's lots of big stakes
going on, even the stuff with Homeland, and that feels like it could
be a side mission, feels very important. There's new development with characters.
I do like that. It just wasn't a like I think The Boys always
does good with this, but there can always be episodes where like a few
things happens and it's just there's some character develpment that you feel like you're kind
of I won't say stagnant, but somewhere close to that, and shows gonna
happen all the time, and I feel like the first three weren't that,
and this one definitely wasn't a halfway point. So I think there's lots of
good developments going on here, ones that I would have never even predicted because
they just represented in this episode. So no, I thought this was another
good one. I'm enjoying the way the show's going. I do think for
people, which is, you know, fine, because we talked about this
last week and even the crayer has But I feel like now more than ever,
especially with one storyline, the show's getting the most political it's ever gotten,
like real world political too. Not even the sense of like, oh,
we're you know, like eluding this as Donald Trump and stuff like that.
They're like literally having a superhero deal with laws and issues that are very
hot and heavy still for some reason nowadays here. So yeah, So I
guess if you're in that camp, probably wouldn't be a fan of it.
But no, I've enjoyed everything. I don't really have many consc Actually this
one, there's a couple of storylines that something I've popped up. I'm hoping
they're kind of resolved or they're gonna be bench for a little whiles they don't
have the interest. I will say, like this is a non spoiler,
This is a minor spoiler, but I don't think it's a major one.
I have been surprised at how little we've seen Jeffer Deine Morgan in this show.
I thought like he had the two scenes in the first three episodes,
and he wasn't in this one. So I just felt like, not that
they were telling me, oh, hey, he's gonna be a big character,
but I thought he would be in these more and he hasn't. Really,
So again, that's not like an actual comment I would bring against the
show. That's just me because I like Jeffer Dean Morgan is like a where
is this guy? Like? I like Jeffer Deane Morgan has some good chemistry.
But sure, but yeah, I know for cons, I don't really
Maybe when we talk about them, I'll have something, but I don't.
I like this the way the shows, like the direction that's going. I
think we're set up for a hopefully good finale. I don't know what they're
gonna do because obviously season five is coming that's the finale, so I'm not
sure if season four is gonna end on a much more of a bigger cliffhanger.
The boys don't tend to do that, so but yeah, overall,
I'm still happy with Uh, what's going on here, Taylor? Are you
in the same camp or you got a bad week for you? No,
I'm happy. I think that this episode just felt like classic Boys. I
think that it's it's great that the show can really just sprout up its own
kind of side tangent story here and just really deliver. I feel like this
could be like there's really no filler episodes, even though they may try and
have those filler episodes, and the Boys they all just for the plot at
character development and just have great action and humorous moments in them. And this
this just felt like that Classic Boys that I really really liked, and I
got some answers, got some questionable things, and yeah, just Homelander,
it is just always delivers. He's always scary. When he walks into a
certain situation, you just know like, ah shit, it's not going good
for the people around him right now. So I'm I'm I'm yeah. I
thought this was a really really good episode. Yeah, No, I think
that's a good way to put a even like I said, the Homelander stuff
could be that. But all right, we're gonna get in a spoiler,
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So, I wanted to talk about this just because I feel like last week
we left off on it and we got it confirmed with Sage and the Deep.
We're talking about what's going on with Sage right because she's like vegging out
and she didn't seem like herself. She's eeeting chips, laughing at dumb shows.
Well, we got the explanation of the uh the uh, which you
figured out last week because Lula Bobby to him. We're like, why is
this? And again, last week was great. They just showed a little
bit and I didn't really even think about that. She talked about some of
her powers. Is that the you know, if her brain regenerates and it
can be completely fine. So she's never not thinking. She did not come
up with plans all this stuff. So she asks him, uh, and
then also promises that she can, you know, throw some ass fucking his
way, and that gets The Deep right on board. But that's the that
she can just kind of like veg out to not be a hero for a
bit. Is literally she's gonna vege out, and yet the botomy and then
her brain will heal. I don't gonna happen now. I was worried when
The Deep was doing it, just because I feel like, not that he's
gonna purposely do anything, but that character has extremely bad luck and it's kind
of an idiot sometimes, so I was worried he was gonna really mess this
up. But uh yeah, it kind of made sense that in the episode
she was an asshole tone the whole time because she's just thinking, but they
did this. I do think this is gonna come into place somehow. Whether
someone uses it against her, I don't know, but we got our answer.
So not too many scenes, but to anything add on Stage and Deep
this week, there's still there's still Sterio couple wasn't a one off, so
it looks like they're a coupling together. So yeah, it's just it's funny
how she's almost like it's it's like a Jeckyll mister Hyde situation where it's like
an alter ego sort of speak, where when she's in her super smart mode,
she's just super revolted and pissed off with the deep and yeada YadA YadA,
and she's very different, and then when she does lebotomy, she turns
into this completely different, h like individual. And Yeah, it's funny because
I realized after the fact that I messaged you after we did that review,
like, oh yeah, this is what it is, which is just it's
really fucked up and crazy to think about just to do that to yourself just
so she can get chill and relax and yeah, just just wild, just
wild. But their their dynamics, their dynamic is interesting, Taylor. What's
interesting is that router that he got is a not not doing its job anyways,
Hayor you're back, what what's interesting about their dynamic? I'm back.
You didn't even freeze for me. You're still moving. I thought I was
here the whole time. No, you were frozen. You're like, oh,
what's interesting, and then you're I stopped talking. You're like, well,
you know what is interesting? This router? I was like, this
is a weird change of topic. No, you definitely anyways go continuing interesting.
Uh, just their relationship, it's it's just yeah, it's I love
that they've been able to just introduce a new character and just have a character
we're so used to just kind of connect with her and the whole dynamic.
So yeah, I think she's definitely become very very intriguing because too she's just
she's watching from behind the scenes, and she's given Firecracker like lines, and
we don't also know exactly everything that she's kind of dished out with Firecracker,
im assuming in retrospect now the pregnancy thing, which we'll talk about, is
what the information was that she gave to Firecracker, and Firecracker was all gey
about it. But she's she just sits there and she watches how things play
out, and seeing how Homelander was kind of in a back seat at this
time in this episode, I do feel like, Okay, she's still playing
the game, but how far, like, how well is she manipulating everyone?
Right? Now, because I do feel like she's in it for herself.
I think she's doing a great job manipulating every but I think they're kind
of moving around the piece that she wants. She seems happy. I do
think, like I said earlier, that somehow maybe the boys will find out
about this little bottomy thing and that's something they'll strike and take her out.
I think she'll be dumbed down, so I feel that could be deeple like
let it slip or something like that, and that's how it goes. But
yeah, I still want to know her endgame. But I think right now
we have lots of stuff going on where there might be other shows that are
halfway through that I'm a little worried about where this one. I'm not too
worried where might Okay, I think we'll get enough here to justify me understanding
what Stage wants. Where Homelander we know now we talked about last week,
like why does he feel the need to go back to where he was created?
What did you feel about this? So honestly, Homelander was all by
himself this episode. He went back to kind of his WEAPONEX. What did
you think about all the Homelander stuff in this episode. I love his origin
focus and yeah, well, there's not really any proper prompt for this,
I'd say, unless he just was feeling No, I think there is because
they remember his like Cole, I think there is now last week I didn't
think that, but his whole ego or himself, the mirror is talking about
how he's still human, and I think that this like him going back there
and even that lady talking about how he's human, I think it's almost him
trying to take those parts out. So I think he was still having flashes
of the people that hurt him or fucked him up, so it's like,
oh, if I kill them, they're no longer an issue, which we've
seen Homelander try to do that multiple times, and it doesn't matter if he
kills him, it's still an issue. But I think that's what he was
trying to do, is trying to kill off any humanity, and that thinking
about that origin place brings out humanity because he thinks about being scared or picked
on or teased or just like tortured, and he feels little then. So
I think that's why he went back, was to try to eliminate that any
feeling but I think, like she said, they bred him that way.
Unfortunately, right, he's always gonna feel that. So M No, he's
convincing himself that he's working on it, but I'm not necessarily buying that because
he keeps on having to do these acts to prove to himself that he has
evolved from that, but he's not otherwise. And the doctor calls him out,
right, Barbara calls him out like, oh, why are you here
then while you torturing these people because you it's what these therapists did to you.
It's just how you need to have that human affection because we knew we
couldn't really control you. You could have broken out any time. The whole
sequence of him being down there was just on edge and just him putting the
guy in the incinerator. It was fucking brutal, Frank and then him making
Marty just beat off and just yeah, like get hard or otherwise I'm gonna
lazy your dick off. It's like fuck. And he did that and then
that woman threw up everywhere, which I never liked seeing. But yeah,
and that's an interesting dichotomy, right, because he's done a lot. He's
killed instant people, he's been very violent, he's sexually assault people. So
Homelander is really on paper, like i'd say one of the if you're just
talking about comic books, films, and TV, I don't want to go
there because I'd have to really brainstorm. But I'm telling him just comic books,
I think he's easily like a top three like Despicable like Character, Marvel,
DC, whatever Image, whatever comics are out there, Homelander is just
the worst. Right. So it's interesting because I think they do a good
job of he gets this back to this origin thing and they tell all these
stories of what they did to him, and really there's nothing justified about like
us as the viewers, we do or you should feel bad for Like I
know they're testing his powers, but still they like lock this kid in an
oven for hours, right, or they do this to him. So it's
like one, you do see how he's a little fucked up. It's not
an excuse, but you do see that because there's other characters that were experimenting
on and they're bear Like look at a Koes from Tepic Camiko. She's somebody
that was had experiment on in season one, was a mess. And then
she's slowly kind of reforming, even though she was just recently hammered in an
episode. But she's I think in a much better situation than Homelander is,
like as far as a person goes. But I think that's what they did
a good job of. When they're explaining all these things that they did to
him. It's not that I didn't feel bad or I felt bad for Homelander
now and like, oh, I'm with him. I did feel in the
sense of like I didn't care if he killed these people because it's like,
yeah, you guys all did this to kids, right, But I think
it's about how brutal and how embarrassing Homelander is. That's what takes across the
point where I think they do a good job of. You might feel like
an inkling of just sadness for him, right you think about he was a
kid, No kids should have to go through any of that, right,
and he was experimented on. But then when you see what he does do,
that's where it goes the other way. If he's going to such extremes
to embarrass people or hurt people, you can't really sport him. Anthony Stars
fucking just laughing, like the Joker in this episode. He was unhinge in
this episode and did a very good job. So I think they walked a
very fine line of showing these sad origins that are very tragic, but then
also just striking back in a very like because to me, if you want
to landed and just lasered them, I don't think I would have really felt
much remorse because, like, I know, they're just regular people and scientists,
but then they are still experimenting on people and putting through a bunch of
pain, right, So I think if they did that, you almost might
have like a hero moment for Homeland or of like that's what is any difference
of Homelander doing this versus like Wolverine when he does an X one right when
he finds people like experimented on him and fucks him up, Like, there's
no difference. It's just the difference is he's wolver He's not making people jack
off and you know, do all these sort of weird things and play like
shoot the paper ball and then you know, so that's that's the difference.
But I do like it, and I'm happy that they got to it right
away because not that I'm impatient but I think if this would have they would
have build up to this and this would have happened later on the season,
it wouldn't have the same impact because I think there's only two episodes that had
like him having the quick flashes. So I'm glad we didn't have to wait
around forever for it, or I'm glad this feels like this was like a
the reverse where it could have been like a multiple episode thing where he was
there. I'm glad this was like a one and done kind of storyline.
It's like the fly for Breaking Bad. He was there, he made his
peace, he killed some people, well actually he killed everybody except for that
female doctor, but he killed them in front of her. And that room,
the bad room, is just filled the blood. So again, and
I think that shot of Homelander going up in the elevator covering blood, smiling,
I think another point is it just just showing how truly unhinged he is
because he would do these things. He killed like Starlight's friend last season,
but he would do these things a bit more Inconnito or when he had the
power. This is just he's just really almost doing whatever. You know,
He's just he is off the leash, and that's where it's just the thing
of Okay, when is it gonna happen? I still feel like, especially
with season five happening, I felk at some point he is just gonna snap
and start just just really killing civilians and stuff like that. I could be
wrong, but I think that also just further showed his descent into madness.
So yeah, yeah, no, I agree that scene of him just leaving
Barbara down there the doctor and just he's looking around in the vault and it's
just all dead bodies, Like I can only imagine if this was like your
first, like week on the job. The Homelander shows that brings you ice
cream cake and you start you're eating it and then all this happens fuck,
which I like because I don't I did rewatch it, So sorry, I'm
getting this fact wrong, but I if I am getting wrong. I think
the only person that had called them John, he'd it's funny Deep and him
got hit. Their real names dropped for the first time last season. I
think the only person that called him John was Mave and he didn't do this,
but I did like the whole No, it's not John as Homelander,
like he's just that completely because again he's trying to like erase that human part
of him, right even though it's still there. There's still a bit of
him that's human. So I did like that touch. The other touch I
did like was may will transition war in him as well. But uh,
at some point a train needs to get some V in this episode, so
he goes the Homelanders place, and again, Ashley, I'm telling you,
last season she helped save Mave, she's wanting to quit. Now she's going
taking shits and Homelanders leaving floaters leaving floaters, which I wonder like this,
who like when Homelander keep getting home, be like, why the fuck is
there just like a shit in my uh toilet all the time. But again,
I'm not saying she's gonna be on the same level of a train where
she's gonna go join the boys, even though I actually think Ashley with the
boys would be very comedic. But I feel like it's not like the deep
in Homelander. I don't know if she's completely irredeemable, and I just feel
like I think something's gonna happen. I think we're just getting little hints of
not that she's on our side, but she's it's like the the fucking General
Hucks thing. I don't need you to win, but I need Kylo renda
loser. I feel like it's like that, and I think she's going to
do something so her name enter and both not saying anything, but yeah,
do you think Ashley? Because I think we kind of think that, okay
us Homelander will get killed at one point, probably the deep because he had
multiple chances to redeem himself and he really is and he's still kind of a
piece of shit guy. Maybe I'll still come a train. He's picking the
side of the boys. He seemed like he's starting to redeem. Do you
think with Ashley we're gonna get that? Or do you think by the time
we get to the show, is she gonna go down with the ship?
Or should she a character that they may keep around because she could pop up
in a gen V and other spin offs and stuff like what do you think
that the fake is for Ashley? Like in long term, Well, it
depends what this deal is that a train made with her, right, because
we don't know the fallout of that conversation. They both caught themselves or caught
each other sorry in Homelanders apartment, So I'm curious what that will be if
maybe A Train's pitching, like, hey, you know, do some work
here for the boys if you want to get back at Homelander. Yeah,
and I won't tattle tale, So I think that there's a few few possibilities
going that way. But I'd like to see her become like semi good at
least working with the boys. I think that would be a lot of fun.
But yeah, she's obviously got a lot of resentment. Yeah, I
like I said, my perfect world, I'm always down for writing me she
just gets killed, so I'm always down to see where the ranting's gonna go.
But my perfect world is she helps with the boys and they keep around
and she's, like I said, a good character. You can plug in
a gen V or any of those spinoffs whenever you need that. Condoin So
and an a Train, he's still being a mole. So I'm liking that.
I'm liking that we're fully now just a the train is on the good
side now, and I like that him and Hughey finally because he had even
the last season, though, A Train did apologize and it was a heartfelt
one. Like he actually for two one season one two he never was heartfelt.
For this one he was, but again he almost apologized. He pretty
much apologized again and who he has accepted because he got on the v but
I think I can't remember. Oh it was just Butcher when they were talking,
having a conversation about moving on and just accepting things. It is this
case of okay, it ended tragically he ran over Rob and his girlfriend.
But at the same point, what else are you gonna do? He is
helping you now, so you're just gonna have that resentment or you're gonna,
you know, try to buckle up and work with him to be on the
team. So I like everything that's happening. I do worry for a Train's
long term goals because I feel like he could be someone that might die than
this season. I think he might give up some bigger information and then Homelanders
is gonna fuck him up or something, because I don't know, I could
just see that happening. But again, I'm happy that a Train is now
on his redemption arc. I'm happy too. I think it's it makes the
character a lot more enjoyable, and I'm curious to see how it unfolds too,
because he keeps complaining about sister Sage being kind of locked in on him.
So it's only about our time before he does get found out. Well,
someone's gonna catch him, not New Noir, but somebody is gonna catch
him doing something. So yeah, it'll be interesting what happens. Like I
said, him and you we are good. Speaking of Hueie, he wasn't
doing much this episode, like he wanted to get the V but uh,
the biggest thing is there. They've said that Simon Peg is like six sick
and he's gonna die. So HUGHI has this idea to give him V not
temp v V because he's hoping that this can you know, do something with
his powers. Butcher, who it's funny for the first time the show,
I feel like Butcher is the one that has like, well he has a
storyline, but it's just so minor, like I'm gonna die and I'm just
gonna do what I can't before I die. Like it's almost like just he's
just kind of around because he's seeing Becca. But he did reveal that he
did try to take Compound V and it didn't work and it just actually made
process go quicker. His yea, his dying so not good for him.
But yet he's seeing Becca, I think more and more as these episodes go
on. It so I think that's a sign of him slipping and losing it.
But uh, he gets the V. He or sorry, Hughie gets
the V. He's gonna use it on his dad. Butcher had that good
talk of tell him not to do it. Maybe old Butcher wouldn't have,
but he talked him out of it. But then he leaves to go to
the washroom, and it felt like he was a very kind of clunky scene
where all of a sudden you look down and it's in his bloodstream. So
I guess they're insinuating that his mum, Oh totally yeah, I got the
V and put it in and it's just like, I know she probably knows
what V is, but I so I feel like that's like a risky thing
because you don't know exactly what this is. Well, she's an employee for
I guess so, but that's what I meant, like, I guess she
just knows that that's what we'll do. And yeah, so now some that's
something where it's like a storyline is completely unsuspecting really likes some of the stuff
we got there where they informally it is probably gonna die, and she hugs
him and he kind of embraces it for a little bit, then kind of
realizes it's his mom, his deadbeat mum, so gets him to mess off.
But yeah, what do you think is gonna happen here with Hugh's dad
having some powers now potentially you know, fight Homeland. Oh yeah, fight
Homelander. Well, I mean it'll be pretty interesting. I'm curious what exactly
his powers are going to be. I really thought that they were gonna kill
him off in this episode, and I thought I was quite surprised when hue
comes back and you see the blue going through the tubes and thinking, holy
shit, she she actually did it with a kind of a I won't say
evil look on her face, but uh, non regretful, and i'd say,
like a tad scary. So I don't know what's going on with her.
Yeah, Like I don't know if I can still trust her at all
at this point, Yeah, because of just our history with Hueye, but
uh yeah, maybe she's she's got her own objectives, like sister Sage,
right, her own motivations. Yeah, get out of here, cirkling with
your your meal. I'm gonna getna bam this user. You know, look
at that. He's keeping it up more than I am. Yeah, uh
yeah. So we got that going on. Another Huey development in a way
where so they star Light is she's doing her campaign things, still working on,
you know, trying to bring down the Homelander fans. The Firecracker has
now been giving like pretty much a Fox News type of show. It's talk
show, hope it's up great with her in the fucking deep just singing I
can't remember what it was, but singing us some sort of belong Yeah,
some sort of eighties seventies song. It was good. And then the boys
think they got her dead to rights because they found footage of her getting it
on with a fifteen year old boy. She doesn't care. She's like,
oh, I'll just go announce it right now, which she does, and
she uses as a sympath sympthy way, and she uses it as like a
perfect transition to about like, oh, you want to talk about the danger
and safety of kids, Well, let's talk about Starlight who had an abortion.
So I this is part where I said, this is where it gets
very political because the whole Superhero Registration Act, those things superhero because like whatever
you want to say, if they're making Homelander be like Donald Trump, Donald
Trump's like not killed anybody in the public, like in the public, right,
So that's where these are big leafs where this like abortion is like a
huge topic in every country, I feel like, right especially in North America.
And it's like especially a couple years ago to America where you coud get
a votion abortions anywhere, but then they overturned Rowe versus Wade, and then
it's like some states don't do it, some states do an only a certain
amount of time. So it's like still like a big issue, especially in
the States. So like I said, if you don't like the politicalness of
these shows, then it's it's it's very much leaning that direction. And if
you don't want that, then I get it, I guess, and if
you want to tune out, But again it doesn't bug me because I'm fining
political stuff and I just feel like the boy says been political. This is
just the most that's been and the closest has been the home. And that's
what Firecracker issue reveals for medical records. I don't know if I bought Starlight
going down there and almost murdering her. I thought that was like a I
don't know if it was warranted. In my mind, I thought Starlight Nanny
would be smart enough. I get that she's so mad, and I get
what they are doing. They're definitely making tons of illusions to like my body,
my choice when she's talking about like her paperwork being out there and actually
I have to relive it, like tons of stuff that is vital, and
I'm like, people don't doesn't have to say, but like for me,
I'm somebody that's pro choice. So it's like they are putting them in a
certain perspective in this show. And then so she beats the show of Firecrackers,
So I like that. As far as she's losing support of the public,
I thought they went a little overboard of I said. I thought Andy
would have been able to control her emotions better than just destroy Firecracker, especially
at that point. We're not season one, Andy, we're season four now,
but or Annie, so we'll see. I think it was almost used
as a plot device. But what I did like was because they tell them
and other people find out on the News. I did like that they reveal
that Huey was a part of the decision, because I was really worried they
were gonna get back and he was gonna be mad and then they were gonna
be broken up again for like like last season where they've broken up for three
to four episodes, then they get back together. So when he's like,
oh, that was our choice, like we talked about, I was like,
oh, thank goodness, because I just I didn't Right now, there's
so much good stuff going on. I don't need another Huie and Annie aren'tetting
along because x Y and Z. So overall, like I said, I
don't know if I bought her going so hard on Firecracker. I get she
was mad, but overall, the whole segment of Firecracker, Hueie, the
abortion Annie, I liked the I liked the whole thing. And now Annie's
lost some support. So how do you feeling about those ones? Yeah?
I think it was It was a pretty strong blow against Annie because we had
her setting up an alliance with what was his name. He's like the politician
running for president, run for president, Yeah, and so he's trying to
take out the head popper below him. So he's he's cut that off now
with her because she made it gone. Yeah, the support's gone. She
made a stunt like that on live TV with the camera men. And so
the abortion too, not so much for like right or wrong, but it's
like she specifically grew up they are against that and from her values, we're
clearly she doesn't share those values. But that was another reason as well too,
right, because she looks kind of like a like a fraud or something
for doing that. But I feel like she's not been in her mom's community
for many years, like since this show started. So it's interesting too because
you have I mean, Ryan's the only natural born soup, right, so
it wasn't supposed to be a thing, and here is start like getting pregnant.
So that's interesting, right. I feel like the baby would have to
go to a term though to know if it was a soup though, right,
it could have just been a person again, right, But yeah,
yeah, but no, I think every I think everything was going on with
Firecracker kind of stoken that fire a little bit and trying to it's great and
taking this character. Yeah, and I think she's she's pretty good. Yeah,
And I think everything with them just sitting up across the shop from uh
where they're working, Like it's just so much. They don't even have an
audience, but they're making it look like it's a big out with the way
the cameras are set up in their performance on stage, So there's a lot
of dynamic going on there, and her trailer too with that like sparkly gun
and like the drugs hidden inside there, and there's they're snooping around and yeah,
so I don't have much else to add, just that it's it's I'm
glad, I'm with you, that I'm glad Hugheye and her are on the
same page, are both where I don't need more of a dynamic in there,
just because it feels like too they're both venturing down their own paths for
a lot of this, Like I feel like they've joined forces and some problems,
but Hughey's dealing with his dad on his own and Starlight is dealing with
the world on her own right now. So they've definitely got a two tower
situation going on where they're a team, but they're on different places of the
Middle Earth there. So I wasn't gonna ask you about Sneeker on the trailer
because that's the only thing with Butcher I wanted to talk about. So Firecracker
has some sort of help her bodyguard and stretch and everything fun little fights in
there. Butcher used the extinguisher to break his arm. Stuff. Who the
fuck killed that guy? Because what happens is Butcher's on the ground and he's
getting choked out and it fades the black and then when he wakes up,
that guy's body is ripped to shreds. What do you think happened? I
think it was a Butcher because you see a focus on like the worm things
moving through his head, right, So I think that there's just something and
he blacked out. He doesn't know what happened. So I feel like there's
something going on with him. He we already know he took He didn't take
Temp V. He actually took like the compound V. Yeah, so that's
very crazy, and I feel like it's definitely just a different power that he's
got that he's not sure about. So yeah, because I was trying to
think like if a train already wasn't on the good side, I thought,
oh, maybe it was him, and this is him like getting it out
there that he is gonna help the boys, but he's already the boys.
He wouldn't wouldn't have to do like a sneaky scene, so I couldn't.
Really. The only one that also popped into my mind was Ryan because he
said the Homelander of he doesn't want Butcher to get killed. They had that
moment where they bonded over the food and the games. I could see a
moment where he landed because he's ripped up the way like Homelander could rip someone
up, right, And you're right about the worms, there's something going on
there. I'm not sure if that could just show sickness or power, but
if there's anybody, if it is, that's my guess is that it was
Ryan saving them. So and we didn't see Ryan this episode. That was
my other reason why too. He wasn't with Homelander, he wasn't with the
boys and stuff, and that could be something. And then now, is
it a stretch that Ryan would fucking kill one just kill someone purposely and then
also ripped them apart like that? Absolutely, I think that is like a
big jump to like for a kid to do that, but this is the
Boys. They could do it, and I could understand if people didn't like
that writing of because he's supposed to hopefully turn good and be on our side.
But in this episode, if you just twear some of the complete pieces,
I could see someone having a problem with it. I just need to
see the execution of it going forward. Yeah, yeah, anything else on
Butcher the boys just still being the leader to talk about them, still the
leader brought Butcher back in, and I like how Butcher he's just he knows
what's going on, Like he's calling Starlette out, like why has Firecracker got
such a beef with you? And yeah, Starling it's like, well,
yeah, nothing, I don't know. Yeah, I think for the time
that he's like back with the boys. I don't even know if we needed
it was a minor storyline, but still I don't think we even needed them
throwing him out for a little bit. Yeah that way, like I thought
he was getta get thrown out, he'd pair with Jeffrey Dean Morgan's agency,
and that's how they'd bump into each other as they're on the same mission.
But your guys are the boys that I'm with. Whatever Morgan's character is,
right, But they didn't do that, and we still haven't seen Morgan yet,
so I yeah, I don't know. It's yeah, it's interesting.
I'm curious of which route they're gonna go down there, so we'll see the
other Oh am, I forgetting I was just gonna bring them up. I'm
sorry. We have seen Morgan by just me like, we haven't seen him
officially recruit Butcher yet. Sorry I misspoke there, right, Like, we
just haven't seen that collection get together yet, right, So ah, god,
there's another one. Go. Yeah. So she had that dueled that
girl, and that's more of the trafficking stuff. I was happy with the
amount that was in there because, as I've said before, those storylines don't
do much for me. So I've had it with that one, and I
was happy, happy enough. I'm not really invested in Frenchie's story. It's
not because he's gay, as people like you know pointed out, like with
Star Wars and the Boys this week of like how much stuff of like,
oh, I'm not watching anymore because I did as I said last week,
there was multiple times in the show that they had inferred that he was with
men. So I know it's nothing like I don't think the storyline's bad of
he's with this guy and the guy finds out he kills his family, because
hey, I'm with the guy too. If I find out someone killed my
family, I'm not It doesn't matter how good a blowjob they're doing, like
you're gonna of gonna beat you up a little bit. Yeah, I don't
know. It's not bad, but I'm just not. I guess I'm just
not invested in it. I guess I'm just like. I think it's also
because we just met this guy character, and I just feel like the chemistry's
out there. We haven't time to really grow with the relationship, so I
think it's fine. I did like that character's reaction. I liked it.
It wasn't like, oh, you know, I understand I like to just
beat the shit of them and said, oh, if I ever see you
again, I'm gonna kill you. Do I believe that. No, I
think they'll probably find a way to get back together somehow. But like I
said, if it's a good, if that's a resolution, I guess I
don't know if I can say it's good because it's like what we're doing for
episodes. But yeah, what do you feel about Camico and uh Frenchy storylines
right now. Yeah, Kamiko, I love the buddy buddy kind of storyline
here with Huie and her and just the you know the fact that her past
is kind of coming down to bite them in the button she's giving like the
crash course on survival to Huey with the shield and the box cutter and all
that which worked definitely saved his life. And she took a grenade like to
the gut and she's just exploded in half and then healed up. That was
just crazy, absolutely crazy. But yeah, as far as it goes with
Frenchie, I'm I'm not sure where exactly the story will go to now,
Like he's just yeah, he told the truth. And we got a little
bit backstory too, because it turns out that his partner was there at the
time, hiding under the bed, and so there's the identifying guard foot gardfoot.
Yeah, so there was definitely some stuff going on, and that just
it does make it more traumatizing for Frenchie. But yeah, I just I'm
not sure what this serves because I don't think we're going to pursue this relationship
moving forward, and I'm not sure so I think they'll get back together somehow.
Really, I think Frenchie will save him or some ship and then they'll
like understand where he's coming from. Of course that's a family killing veto if
they save it. Yeah, all's forgiven if you save me. So because
she also still works with Anne Annie, right, Like, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what's gonna happen with Annie's camp after this whole beatdown.
As we saw this episode, people are pulling out that president hopefully to be
elected was so maybe there won't even be like a group base camp of her
supporters. But if there is, he is there. So I imagine they'll
bump to each other a couple more times. Even if they don't end up
dating again, I can see them at least having like a like a Mia
Kolpa like okay again, not forgive you, but like I understand, and
then move on never talk to each other, you know. So, Yeah,
is there anyone or anything we're missing from this episode that you can think
of? Oh, I got Homelander, God, Chey's dad, Kimic Coo
and then firecrackers start like yeah, I don't think we are black, nor
wasn't in any gems from New Noir. So we'll have to wait and see,
is the brief moment because Sister Stage is kind of giving everyone the run
down the plans, and he rocks up like I talked to you real fast
and she's like, nope, poor New Noir, just like the kicking,
kicking bag of the whole entire team. So yeah, I'm looking forward to
to see like can he fight, does he have any powers, or if
he is really just an actor? And I'm because I feel like, whether
it's this season or next season, there's gonna be like a big fight and
someone's gonna square off with no War and she's like kill him super easily,
and they'll be like like, isn't this guy's gouna be a bad ass like
Winter Soldier type? But yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen to you.
We don't Yeah, we don't even know if he has a soup.
I guess you're right. Yeah, so yeah, we will see. I
don't think I got anything else. I think that pretty much covers it.
Yeah, I think so too. I think we cover most of the stuff
because it's like like we said, I don't think it's not like a basic
episode. There's developments, but they're all kind of straightforward there, so yeah,
yeah, no, I'm I'm enjoying, Like I'm very much enjoying.
I think I'm like, I think I'm like underplaying it. But I think
it's just like I would have bigger things, all bigger things, say when
like big developments happen, or like the pilots or the finales. But it's
just like there's a certain quality I expect with the boys, and they're just
hitting it and it feels so good, especially when we live in a time
where like for me, like Star Wars that's up and down, Marvel shows
are up and down. You know. The Boys, it's just like it's
now that it's chicken suit for the soul because you get some senior guys fucking
wanking it and getting his dick lasered off. But it's it's almost averse that
if I had more to say it, probably the show could be in trouble
unless it's a big development, but like because there'd be all these complaints and
so far have no complaints like they have these, and even stuff that might
be like predictable, it's like it's predictable in the good sense of the story
has to go this way for it to make sense, you know so,
and stuff like Homeland are going to his origin, frenchyeing, that boyfriend breaking
up. I'm glad that these things are happening midway through the season already,
so they're already we can get into new stuff or dive in that stuff more
down the road. It's not like, like I said, I worried that
they were gonna kick the can a bit on that Homelander origin thing, but
no, it's it's done with now, you know so, And I think
it was the right amount. I think one episode's god like whatever, one
episode his runtime, that was good, Like, I don't think there's any
more there they could have done and it wouldn't get redundant. So yeah,
we will be back next week for episode five. See what fucking power who
his dad gets? Because that was before homelanders ending. That was the big
thing. He opened his eyes if we didn't be clear, he opened his
eyes. He's alive and looks like he has power. So not sure what's
gonna happen there, just even in general, and that's one it's gonna be
good to see. Uh God, what's this? Why? Uh? Why?
I forget his name? Scott what is his name? Who was he?
Actually the place? His dad Simon Peg, Sam Peg, thank you.
I don't know why since Scott Peg, but Sam Peg Like that's also
gonna next week out a new dynamic when he's awake and his ex wife's there
with his son and everything. Right, so I think again already, it's
like we know what's gonna happen next week is the Superpowers with him? And
also just like what's the dynamic of these three back together as it was clearly
a damaged relationship. So yeah, I forgot to mention a quick interjection.
At the rally with Firecracker, they did some name drops like Kanye and they
draw John Voight's in the Yeah they did, Yeah, I can't remember who
they yeah, yeah, right, Kanye was the one that they're like,
oh Kanye, and then like cut away to show him not on there,
which you never know with this show if they would have been there or not.
A Tran's movies going to production. They showed some stuff with him and
will Fare like promotion stuff, which that was funny. So that's good stuff
and oh that's the thing to you have. I also just liked Atran going
through Homelander's house, just being like like he didn't say this, but just
his face, Like this guy's fucked up, like all the things he's keeping.
And imagine, if you don't have the context, you're like, what
cubes? Yeah, baby Mill, who is this fucking guy? So who
knows. We'll see what homelanders up to next week. So yeah, Episode
five will be back and it will not be boring. Bye.