1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,719 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Boys review. This 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,400 is episode four, season four, the Good Double There of the Boys. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,879 I'm the clown Prince of Squirting Tres now I'm joined by the whale Cake. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, if this is your first time listening, you 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,679 go back last week we had all three episodes. We did that one big 6 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:30,359 batch. There a whole bunch of reviews, so we'll get right down into 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,000 it. We'll talk about this episode and I'll go first because here Field is 8 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:37,880 making the thumbnail. But yeah, we'll be here for every week for the 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,640 Boys. So now we're at the halfway point, which is always crazy with 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,079 Amazon when they do these drops, it always feel it feels weird, like 11 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:46,640 we're halfway done. But yeah, we're reviewing all the big June shows other 12 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:49,520 than The Bear, we're not reviewing that, but we're reviewing Aclight, reviewing 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,200 House Dragon, so if you like those, go check those out. We 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,679 also got Siquest still popping off, and lots of red shows Alien right now 15 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:00,320 the X Men retrospective. So June and July are some very review heavy months, 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,400 and I feel like if you look at the feed, there's something there 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,959 for you, So go check one of those out and let us know and 18 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:08,879 you know, leave this review or anything like that. But yeah, so 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,719 episode four here, I think this was another really good episode. I don't 20 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:15,319 think it like I was gonna say great, and I could probably even say 21 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:18,680 great. I feel like I want to save great for when it's some of 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,319 those like all Timer Boys episodes, Like if I were to make a list 23 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:23,239 of the top five episodes, this wouldn't be in here. But it's like 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,560 kind of everything it needed to be. I think there's lots of big stakes 25 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:32,640 going on, even the stuff with Homeland, and that feels like it could 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,079 be a side mission, feels very important. There's new development with characters. 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,040 I do like that. It just wasn't a like I think The Boys always 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,959 does good with this, but there can always be episodes where like a few 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,280 things happens and it's just there's some character develpment that you feel like you're kind 30 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:52,079 of I won't say stagnant, but somewhere close to that, and shows gonna 31 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,280 happen all the time, and I feel like the first three weren't that, 32 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,879 and this one definitely wasn't a halfway point. So I think there's lots of 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,799 good developments going on here, ones that I would have never even predicted because 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,760 they just represented in this episode. So no, I thought this was another 35 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:08,000 good one. I'm enjoying the way the show's going. I do think for 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,039 people, which is, you know, fine, because we talked about this 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,319 last week and even the crayer has But I feel like now more than ever, 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,599 especially with one storyline, the show's getting the most political it's ever gotten, 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,680 like real world political too. Not even the sense of like, oh, 40 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:23,840 we're you know, like eluding this as Donald Trump and stuff like that. 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,639 They're like literally having a superhero deal with laws and issues that are very 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,680 hot and heavy still for some reason nowadays here. So yeah, So I 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 guess if you're in that camp, probably wouldn't be a fan of it. 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,639 But no, I've enjoyed everything. I don't really have many consc Actually this 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,479 one, there's a couple of storylines that something I've popped up. I'm hoping 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,759 they're kind of resolved or they're gonna be bench for a little whiles they don't 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,759 have the interest. I will say, like this is a non spoiler, 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,199 This is a minor spoiler, but I don't think it's a major one. 49 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:59,360 I have been surprised at how little we've seen Jeffer Deine Morgan in this show. 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,159 I thought like he had the two scenes in the first three episodes, 51 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:04,360 and he wasn't in this one. So I just felt like, not that 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,439 they were telling me, oh, hey, he's gonna be a big character, 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,080 but I thought he would be in these more and he hasn't. Really, 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,280 So again, that's not like an actual comment I would bring against the 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,960 show. That's just me because I like Jeffer Dean Morgan is like a where 56 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,360 is this guy? Like? I like Jeffer Deane Morgan has some good chemistry. 57 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,919 But sure, but yeah, I know for cons, I don't really 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,360 Maybe when we talk about them, I'll have something, but I don't. 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,680 I like this the way the shows, like the direction that's going. I 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,120 think we're set up for a hopefully good finale. I don't know what they're 61 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,960 gonna do because obviously season five is coming that's the finale, so I'm not 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,199 sure if season four is gonna end on a much more of a bigger cliffhanger. 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 The boys don't tend to do that, so but yeah, overall, 64 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:44,919 I'm still happy with Uh, what's going on here, Taylor? Are you 65 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:46,840 in the same camp or you got a bad week for you? No, 66 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:52,560 I'm happy. I think that this episode just felt like classic Boys. I 67 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,719 think that it's it's great that the show can really just sprout up its own 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,919 kind of side tangent story here and just really deliver. I feel like this 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,919 could be like there's really no filler episodes, even though they may try and 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,599 have those filler episodes, and the Boys they all just for the plot at 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,280 character development and just have great action and humorous moments in them. And this 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,639 this just felt like that Classic Boys that I really really liked, and I 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,920 got some answers, got some questionable things, and yeah, just Homelander, 74 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:27,240 it is just always delivers. He's always scary. When he walks into a 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,040 certain situation, you just know like, ah shit, it's not going good 76 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:35,040 for the people around him right now. So I'm I'm I'm yeah. I 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,560 thought this was a really really good episode. Yeah, No, I think 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,160 that's a good way to put a even like I said, the Homelander stuff 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 could be that. But all right, we're gonna get in a spoiler, 80 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:47,319 so after this we'll take a little ad break, right, here, so 81 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:49,800 I've not seen that, So come back a later date and then we'll be 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:56,240 right back. All right, we are back and as usual, if you 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,360 want to get this episode AD free before you might have just heard of ad 84 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,800 You could get that right now if you join Patreon. When you do that, 85 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,399 you support us. We are independent content creators, so you get to 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,560 add to that, so stuff like side Quest, extra Newscast. The reason 87 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:12,199 we can do all these reviews is the extra help. 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So August 97 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:46,879 or and if you want to and and it'll be live on YouTube. We'll 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,160 hit the at the time later. And yeah, Patreon is the best way 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,720 support episodes. Add free early and get exclusive episodes on there. Right now, 100 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:57,240 there's a I don't even I don't even know. Since we've been doing 101 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,879 like the Phase two and whatnot, I don't know how many exclusive episodes are 102 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:02,199 there, but there is. I'm not gonna say hundred, but I feel 103 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:06,519 like we probably are there soon if we do like one a month, I 104 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:10,399 don't know. I'll do the math another day. The boys. Uh, 105 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,560 So, I wanted to talk about this just because I feel like last week 106 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,319 we left off on it and we got it confirmed with Sage and the Deep. 107 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:21,759 We're talking about what's going on with Sage right because she's like vegging out 108 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,720 and she didn't seem like herself. She's eeeting chips, laughing at dumb shows. 109 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:30,600 Well, we got the explanation of the uh the uh, which you 110 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,199 figured out last week because Lula Bobby to him. We're like, why is 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,319 this? And again, last week was great. They just showed a little 112 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:39,399 bit and I didn't really even think about that. She talked about some of 113 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:44,040 her powers. Is that the you know, if her brain regenerates and it 114 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,560 can be completely fine. So she's never not thinking. She did not come 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,079 up with plans all this stuff. So she asks him, uh, and 116 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,720 then also promises that she can, you know, throw some ass fucking his 117 00:06:56,759 --> 00:07:00,399 way, and that gets The Deep right on board. But that's the that 118 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,920 she can just kind of like veg out to not be a hero for a 119 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:05,879 bit. Is literally she's gonna vege out, and yet the botomy and then 120 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:10,600 her brain will heal. I don't gonna happen now. I was worried when 121 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:13,720 The Deep was doing it, just because I feel like, not that he's 122 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,439 gonna purposely do anything, but that character has extremely bad luck and it's kind 123 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:19,160 of an idiot sometimes, so I was worried he was gonna really mess this 124 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:23,240 up. But uh yeah, it kind of made sense that in the episode 125 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:26,639 she was an asshole tone the whole time because she's just thinking, but they 126 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:30,240 did this. I do think this is gonna come into place somehow. Whether 127 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:32,000 someone uses it against her, I don't know, but we got our answer. 128 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,120 So not too many scenes, but to anything add on Stage and Deep 129 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:39,519 this week, there's still there's still Sterio couple wasn't a one off, so 130 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:43,480 it looks like they're a coupling together. So yeah, it's just it's funny 131 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,639 how she's almost like it's it's like a Jeckyll mister Hyde situation where it's like 132 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:53,360 an alter ego sort of speak, where when she's in her super smart mode, 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 she's just super revolted and pissed off with the deep and yeada YadA YadA, 134 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:00,560 and she's very different, and then when she does lebotomy, she turns 135 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,560 into this completely different, h like individual. And Yeah, it's funny because 136 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,680 I realized after the fact that I messaged you after we did that review, 137 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,120 like, oh yeah, this is what it is, which is just it's 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,000 really fucked up and crazy to think about just to do that to yourself just 139 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,959 so she can get chill and relax and yeah, just just wild, just 140 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:28,360 wild. But their their dynamics, their dynamic is interesting, Taylor. What's 141 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:33,000 interesting is that router that he got is a not not doing its job anyways, 142 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,799 Hayor you're back, what what's interesting about their dynamic? I'm back. 143 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,360 You didn't even freeze for me. You're still moving. I thought I was 144 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:41,120 here the whole time. No, you were frozen. You're like, oh, 145 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:46,159 what's interesting, and then you're I stopped talking. You're like, well, 146 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:48,480 you know what is interesting? This router? I was like, this 147 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,759 is a weird change of topic. No, you definitely anyways go continuing interesting. 148 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,799 Uh, just their relationship, it's it's just yeah, it's I love 149 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,799 that they've been able to just introduce a new character and just have a character 150 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,000 we're so used to just kind of connect with her and the whole dynamic. 151 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:11,039 So yeah, I think she's definitely become very very intriguing because too she's just 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,440 she's watching from behind the scenes, and she's given Firecracker like lines, and 153 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,120 we don't also know exactly everything that she's kind of dished out with Firecracker, 154 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,080 im assuming in retrospect now the pregnancy thing, which we'll talk about, is 155 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:28,679 what the information was that she gave to Firecracker, and Firecracker was all gey 156 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,080 about it. But she's she just sits there and she watches how things play 157 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,039 out, and seeing how Homelander was kind of in a back seat at this 158 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:39,600 time in this episode, I do feel like, Okay, she's still playing 159 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,159 the game, but how far, like, how well is she manipulating everyone? 160 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Right? Now, because I do feel like she's in it for herself. 161 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,960 I think she's doing a great job manipulating every but I think they're kind 162 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,759 of moving around the piece that she wants. She seems happy. I do 163 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,759 think, like I said earlier, that somehow maybe the boys will find out 164 00:09:56,799 --> 00:09:58,679 about this little bottomy thing and that's something they'll strike and take her out. 165 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,840 I think she'll be dumbed down, so I feel that could be deeple like 166 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:05,759 let it slip or something like that, and that's how it goes. But 167 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,320 yeah, I still want to know her endgame. But I think right now 168 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,559 we have lots of stuff going on where there might be other shows that are 169 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,240 halfway through that I'm a little worried about where this one. I'm not too 170 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,759 worried where might Okay, I think we'll get enough here to justify me understanding 171 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:26,279 what Stage wants. Where Homelander we know now we talked about last week, 172 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,559 like why does he feel the need to go back to where he was created? 173 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,159 What did you feel about this? So honestly, Homelander was all by 174 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,840 himself this episode. He went back to kind of his WEAPONEX. What did 175 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:43,480 you think about all the Homelander stuff in this episode. I love his origin 176 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,559 focus and yeah, well, there's not really any proper prompt for this, 177 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,559 I'd say, unless he just was feeling No, I think there is because 178 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,440 they remember his like Cole, I think there is now last week I didn't 179 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,600 think that, but his whole ego or himself, the mirror is talking about 180 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,919 how he's still human, and I think that this like him going back there 181 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,960 and even that lady talking about how he's human, I think it's almost him 182 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,279 trying to take those parts out. So I think he was still having flashes 183 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,600 of the people that hurt him or fucked him up, so it's like, 184 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,480 oh, if I kill them, they're no longer an issue, which we've 185 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:20,679 seen Homelander try to do that multiple times, and it doesn't matter if he 186 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:22,360 kills him, it's still an issue. But I think that's what he was 187 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:26,759 trying to do, is trying to kill off any humanity, and that thinking 188 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,080 about that origin place brings out humanity because he thinks about being scared or picked 189 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,440 on or teased or just like tortured, and he feels little then. So 190 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,840 I think that's why he went back, was to try to eliminate that any 191 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,320 feeling but I think, like she said, they bred him that way. 192 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:46,360 Unfortunately, right, he's always gonna feel that. So M No, he's 193 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,000 convincing himself that he's working on it, but I'm not necessarily buying that because 194 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,440 he keeps on having to do these acts to prove to himself that he has 195 00:11:56,519 --> 00:12:00,600 evolved from that, but he's not otherwise. And the doctor calls him out, 196 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:01,679 right, Barbara calls him out like, oh, why are you here 197 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:07,200 then while you torturing these people because you it's what these therapists did to you. 198 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,000 It's just how you need to have that human affection because we knew we 199 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,399 couldn't really control you. You could have broken out any time. The whole 200 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,000 sequence of him being down there was just on edge and just him putting the 201 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,879 guy in the incinerator. It was fucking brutal, Frank and then him making 202 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:31,759 Marty just beat off and just yeah, like get hard or otherwise I'm gonna 203 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:35,360 lazy your dick off. It's like fuck. And he did that and then 204 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,120 that woman threw up everywhere, which I never liked seeing. But yeah, 205 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,600 and that's an interesting dichotomy, right, because he's done a lot. He's 206 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,080 killed instant people, he's been very violent, he's sexually assault people. So 207 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Homelander is really on paper, like i'd say one of the if you're just 208 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:54,960 talking about comic books, films, and TV, I don't want to go 209 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,360 there because I'd have to really brainstorm. But I'm telling him just comic books, 210 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,240 I think he's easily like a top three like Despicable like Character, Marvel, 211 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,320 DC, whatever Image, whatever comics are out there, Homelander is just 212 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,240 the worst. Right. So it's interesting because I think they do a good 213 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,679 job of he gets this back to this origin thing and they tell all these 214 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,279 stories of what they did to him, and really there's nothing justified about like 215 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:24,440 us as the viewers, we do or you should feel bad for Like I 216 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,039 know they're testing his powers, but still they like lock this kid in an 217 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,360 oven for hours, right, or they do this to him. So it's 218 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,000 like one, you do see how he's a little fucked up. It's not 219 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 an excuse, but you do see that because there's other characters that were experimenting 220 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:43,759 on and they're bear Like look at a Koes from Tepic Camiko. She's somebody 221 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,679 that was had experiment on in season one, was a mess. And then 222 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,159 she's slowly kind of reforming, even though she was just recently hammered in an 223 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,200 episode. But she's I think in a much better situation than Homelander is, 224 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,039 like as far as a person goes. But I think that's what they did 225 00:13:56,039 --> 00:14:01,000 a good job of. When they're explaining all these things that they did to 226 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,679 him. It's not that I didn't feel bad or I felt bad for Homelander 227 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,200 now and like, oh, I'm with him. I did feel in the 228 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,039 sense of like I didn't care if he killed these people because it's like, 229 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,399 yeah, you guys all did this to kids, right, But I think 230 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,679 it's about how brutal and how embarrassing Homelander is. That's what takes across the 231 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,240 point where I think they do a good job of. You might feel like 232 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:26,039 an inkling of just sadness for him, right you think about he was a 233 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:26,759 kid, No kids should have to go through any of that, right, 234 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:30,840 and he was experimented on. But then when you see what he does do, 235 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:33,080 that's where it goes the other way. If he's going to such extremes 236 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:39,200 to embarrass people or hurt people, you can't really sport him. Anthony Stars 237 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,159 fucking just laughing, like the Joker in this episode. He was unhinge in 238 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:43,840 this episode and did a very good job. So I think they walked a 239 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:48,399 very fine line of showing these sad origins that are very tragic, but then 240 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,399 also just striking back in a very like because to me, if you want 241 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,480 to landed and just lasered them, I don't think I would have really felt 242 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,279 much remorse because, like, I know, they're just regular people and scientists, 243 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,159 but then they are still experimenting on people and putting through a bunch of 244 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,279 pain, right, So I think if they did that, you almost might 245 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:09,320 have like a hero moment for Homeland or of like that's what is any difference 246 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:11,720 of Homelander doing this versus like Wolverine when he does an X one right when 247 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,960 he finds people like experimented on him and fucks him up, Like, there's 248 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,399 no difference. It's just the difference is he's wolver He's not making people jack 249 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,279 off and you know, do all these sort of weird things and play like 250 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,840 shoot the paper ball and then you know, so that's that's the difference. 251 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,919 But I do like it, and I'm happy that they got to it right 252 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:33,360 away because not that I'm impatient but I think if this would have they would 253 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,360 have build up to this and this would have happened later on the season, 254 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,000 it wouldn't have the same impact because I think there's only two episodes that had 255 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,320 like him having the quick flashes. So I'm glad we didn't have to wait 256 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,039 around forever for it, or I'm glad this feels like this was like a 257 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,879 the reverse where it could have been like a multiple episode thing where he was 258 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,039 there. I'm glad this was like a one and done kind of storyline. 259 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,159 It's like the fly for Breaking Bad. He was there, he made his 260 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,879 peace, he killed some people, well actually he killed everybody except for that 261 00:15:56,919 --> 00:16:00,519 female doctor, but he killed them in front of her. And that room, 262 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:03,519 the bad room, is just filled the blood. So again, and 263 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,600 I think that shot of Homelander going up in the elevator covering blood, smiling, 264 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:11,919 I think another point is it just just showing how truly unhinged he is 265 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:15,480 because he would do these things. He killed like Starlight's friend last season, 266 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,639 but he would do these things a bit more Inconnito or when he had the 267 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:25,080 power. This is just he's just really almost doing whatever. You know, 268 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,000 He's just he is off the leash, and that's where it's just the thing 269 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,840 of Okay, when is it gonna happen? I still feel like, especially 270 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:33,159 with season five happening, I felk at some point he is just gonna snap 271 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,879 and start just just really killing civilians and stuff like that. I could be 272 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:41,039 wrong, but I think that also just further showed his descent into madness. 273 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,720 So yeah, yeah, no, I agree that scene of him just leaving 274 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:48,240 Barbara down there the doctor and just he's looking around in the vault and it's 275 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,879 just all dead bodies, Like I can only imagine if this was like your 276 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,360 first, like week on the job. The Homelander shows that brings you ice 277 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:00,919 cream cake and you start you're eating it and then all this happens fuck, 278 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:06,200 which I like because I don't I did rewatch it, So sorry, I'm 279 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,079 getting this fact wrong, but I if I am getting wrong. I think 280 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,640 the only person that had called them John, he'd it's funny Deep and him 281 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,920 got hit. Their real names dropped for the first time last season. I 282 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,319 think the only person that called him John was Mave and he didn't do this, 283 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,160 but I did like the whole No, it's not John as Homelander, 284 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,279 like he's just that completely because again he's trying to like erase that human part 285 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:29,440 of him, right even though it's still there. There's still a bit of 286 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,119 him that's human. So I did like that touch. The other touch I 287 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,640 did like was may will transition war in him as well. But uh, 288 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:40,359 at some point a train needs to get some V in this episode, so 289 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,160 he goes the Homelanders place, and again, Ashley, I'm telling you, 290 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,599 last season she helped save Mave, she's wanting to quit. Now she's going 291 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,960 taking shits and Homelanders leaving floaters leaving floaters, which I wonder like this, 292 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,519 who like when Homelander keep getting home, be like, why the fuck is 293 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:00,440 there just like a shit in my uh toilet all the time. But again, 294 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:04,160 I'm not saying she's gonna be on the same level of a train where 295 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,200 she's gonna go join the boys, even though I actually think Ashley with the 296 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,359 boys would be very comedic. But I feel like it's not like the deep 297 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,440 in Homelander. I don't know if she's completely irredeemable, and I just feel 298 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,039 like I think something's gonna happen. I think we're just getting little hints of 299 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,640 not that she's on our side, but she's it's like the the fucking General 300 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,079 Hucks thing. I don't need you to win, but I need Kylo renda 301 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,519 loser. I feel like it's like that, and I think she's going to 302 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:33,200 do something so her name enter and both not saying anything, but yeah, 303 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,839 do you think Ashley? Because I think we kind of think that, okay 304 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:38,599 us Homelander will get killed at one point, probably the deep because he had 305 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,119 multiple chances to redeem himself and he really is and he's still kind of a 306 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,759 piece of shit guy. Maybe I'll still come a train. He's picking the 307 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:48,119 side of the boys. He seemed like he's starting to redeem. Do you 308 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,400 think with Ashley we're gonna get that? Or do you think by the time 309 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,319 we get to the show, is she gonna go down with the ship? 310 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,880 Or should she a character that they may keep around because she could pop up 311 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,640 in a gen V and other spin offs and stuff like what do you think 312 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,839 that the fake is for Ashley? Like in long term, Well, it 313 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,920 depends what this deal is that a train made with her, right, because 314 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,440 we don't know the fallout of that conversation. They both caught themselves or caught 315 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,240 each other sorry in Homelanders apartment, So I'm curious what that will be if 316 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,880 maybe A Train's pitching, like, hey, you know, do some work 317 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,119 here for the boys if you want to get back at Homelander. Yeah, 318 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,559 and I won't tattle tale, So I think that there's a few few possibilities 319 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:33,000 going that way. But I'd like to see her become like semi good at 320 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,119 least working with the boys. I think that would be a lot of fun. 321 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,799 But yeah, she's obviously got a lot of resentment. Yeah, I 322 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,839 like I said, my perfect world, I'm always down for writing me she 323 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,359 just gets killed, so I'm always down to see where the ranting's gonna go. 324 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,440 But my perfect world is she helps with the boys and they keep around 325 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,440 and she's, like I said, a good character. You can plug in 326 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,680 a gen V or any of those spinoffs whenever you need that. Condoin So 327 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 and an a Train, he's still being a mole. So I'm liking that. 328 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:02,160 I'm liking that we're fully now just a the train is on the good 329 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,000 side now, and I like that him and Hughey finally because he had even 330 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,559 the last season, though, A Train did apologize and it was a heartfelt 331 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,880 one. Like he actually for two one season one two he never was heartfelt. 332 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,920 For this one he was, but again he almost apologized. He pretty 333 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,400 much apologized again and who he has accepted because he got on the v but 334 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:25,279 I think I can't remember. Oh it was just Butcher when they were talking, 335 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:29,440 having a conversation about moving on and just accepting things. It is this 336 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,279 case of okay, it ended tragically he ran over Rob and his girlfriend. 337 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,440 But at the same point, what else are you gonna do? He is 338 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,839 helping you now, so you're just gonna have that resentment or you're gonna, 339 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,319 you know, try to buckle up and work with him to be on the 340 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,359 team. So I like everything that's happening. I do worry for a Train's 341 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,920 long term goals because I feel like he could be someone that might die than 342 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,079 this season. I think he might give up some bigger information and then Homelanders 343 00:20:52,079 --> 00:20:56,279 is gonna fuck him up or something, because I don't know, I could 344 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,599 just see that happening. But again, I'm happy that a Train is now 345 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,240 on his redemption arc. I'm happy too. I think it's it makes the 346 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:07,920 character a lot more enjoyable, and I'm curious to see how it unfolds too, 347 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,920 because he keeps complaining about sister Sage being kind of locked in on him. 348 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,519 So it's only about our time before he does get found out. Well, 349 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,759 someone's gonna catch him, not New Noir, but somebody is gonna catch 350 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,720 him doing something. So yeah, it'll be interesting what happens. Like I 351 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,839 said, him and you we are good. Speaking of Hueie, he wasn't 352 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:27,119 doing much this episode, like he wanted to get the V but uh, 353 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 the biggest thing is there. They've said that Simon Peg is like six sick 354 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,799 and he's gonna die. So HUGHI has this idea to give him V not 355 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,799 temp v V because he's hoping that this can you know, do something with 356 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,559 his powers. Butcher, who it's funny for the first time the show, 357 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:45,400 I feel like Butcher is the one that has like, well he has a 358 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,160 storyline, but it's just so minor, like I'm gonna die and I'm just 359 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,319 gonna do what I can't before I die. Like it's almost like just he's 360 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,039 just kind of around because he's seeing Becca. But he did reveal that he 361 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:59,880 did try to take Compound V and it didn't work and it just actually made 362 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,079 process go quicker. His yea, his dying so not good for him. 363 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,799 But yet he's seeing Becca, I think more and more as these episodes go 364 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:10,680 on. It so I think that's a sign of him slipping and losing it. 365 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,599 But uh, he gets the V. He or sorry, Hughie gets 366 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,119 the V. He's gonna use it on his dad. Butcher had that good 367 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,559 talk of tell him not to do it. Maybe old Butcher wouldn't have, 368 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:22,680 but he talked him out of it. But then he leaves to go to 369 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,480 the washroom, and it felt like he was a very kind of clunky scene 370 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:29,200 where all of a sudden you look down and it's in his bloodstream. So 371 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,359 I guess they're insinuating that his mum, Oh totally yeah, I got the 372 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,960 V and put it in and it's just like, I know she probably knows 373 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,279 what V is, but I so I feel like that's like a risky thing 374 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,599 because you don't know exactly what this is. Well, she's an employee for 375 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:44,640 I guess so, but that's what I meant, like, I guess she 376 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:48,279 just knows that that's what we'll do. And yeah, so now some that's 377 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,079 something where it's like a storyline is completely unsuspecting really likes some of the stuff 378 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,319 we got there where they informally it is probably gonna die, and she hugs 379 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,359 him and he kind of embraces it for a little bit, then kind of 380 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,720 realizes it's his mom, his deadbeat mum, so gets him to mess off. 381 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,519 But yeah, what do you think is gonna happen here with Hugh's dad 382 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,319 having some powers now potentially you know, fight Homeland. Oh yeah, fight 383 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,599 Homelander. Well, I mean it'll be pretty interesting. I'm curious what exactly 384 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,039 his powers are going to be. I really thought that they were gonna kill 385 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,359 him off in this episode, and I thought I was quite surprised when hue 386 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,079 comes back and you see the blue going through the tubes and thinking, holy 387 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,960 shit, she she actually did it with a kind of a I won't say 388 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,799 evil look on her face, but uh, non regretful, and i'd say, 389 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:36,599 like a tad scary. So I don't know what's going on with her. 390 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,079 Yeah, Like I don't know if I can still trust her at all 391 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,880 at this point, Yeah, because of just our history with Hueye, but 392 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:48,440 uh yeah, maybe she's she's got her own objectives, like sister Sage, 393 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,240 right, her own motivations. Yeah, get out of here, cirkling with 394 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:56,319 your your meal. I'm gonna getna bam this user. You know, look 395 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,039 at that. He's keeping it up more than I am. Yeah, uh 396 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,079 yeah. So we got that going on. Another Huey development in a way 397 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,119 where so they star Light is she's doing her campaign things, still working on, 398 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,680 you know, trying to bring down the Homelander fans. The Firecracker has 399 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,640 now been giving like pretty much a Fox News type of show. It's talk 400 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,400 show, hope it's up great with her in the fucking deep just singing I 401 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,720 can't remember what it was, but singing us some sort of belong Yeah, 402 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:36,720 some sort of eighties seventies song. It was good. And then the boys 403 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:41,200 think they got her dead to rights because they found footage of her getting it 404 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,160 on with a fifteen year old boy. She doesn't care. She's like, 405 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,480 oh, I'll just go announce it right now, which she does, and 406 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:49,000 she uses as a sympath sympthy way, and she uses it as like a 407 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,519 perfect transition to about like, oh, you want to talk about the danger 408 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,839 and safety of kids, Well, let's talk about Starlight who had an abortion. 409 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,440 So I this is part where I said, this is where it gets 410 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:06,160 very political because the whole Superhero Registration Act, those things superhero because like whatever 411 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,960 you want to say, if they're making Homelander be like Donald Trump, Donald 412 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Trump's like not killed anybody in the public, like in the public, right, 413 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,319 So that's where these are big leafs where this like abortion is like a 414 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,119 huge topic in every country, I feel like, right especially in North America. 415 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,960 And it's like especially a couple years ago to America where you coud get 416 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,480 a votion abortions anywhere, but then they overturned Rowe versus Wade, and then 417 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,000 it's like some states don't do it, some states do an only a certain 418 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,559 amount of time. So it's like still like a big issue, especially in 419 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,640 the States. So like I said, if you don't like the politicalness of 420 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,920 these shows, then it's it's it's very much leaning that direction. And if 421 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,160 you don't want that, then I get it, I guess, and if 422 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,880 you want to tune out, But again it doesn't bug me because I'm fining 423 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,880 political stuff and I just feel like the boy says been political. This is 424 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,799 just the most that's been and the closest has been the home. And that's 425 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:57,920 what Firecracker issue reveals for medical records. I don't know if I bought Starlight 426 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,720 going down there and almost murdering her. I thought that was like a I 427 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,799 don't know if it was warranted. In my mind, I thought Starlight Nanny 428 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,160 would be smart enough. I get that she's so mad, and I get 429 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,640 what they are doing. They're definitely making tons of illusions to like my body, 430 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,799 my choice when she's talking about like her paperwork being out there and actually 431 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,200 I have to relive it, like tons of stuff that is vital, and 432 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,079 I'm like, people don't doesn't have to say, but like for me, 433 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200 I'm somebody that's pro choice. So it's like they are putting them in a 434 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,559 certain perspective in this show. And then so she beats the show of Firecrackers, 435 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,079 So I like that. As far as she's losing support of the public, 436 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,200 I thought they went a little overboard of I said. I thought Andy 437 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,240 would have been able to control her emotions better than just destroy Firecracker, especially 438 00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,400 at that point. We're not season one, Andy, we're season four now, 439 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,039 but or Annie, so we'll see. I think it was almost used 440 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:48,720 as a plot device. But what I did like was because they tell them 441 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000 and other people find out on the News. I did like that they reveal 442 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,799 that Huey was a part of the decision, because I was really worried they 443 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,440 were gonna get back and he was gonna be mad and then they were gonna 444 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,680 be broken up again for like like last season where they've broken up for three 445 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,720 to four episodes, then they get back together. So when he's like, 446 00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:07,680 oh, that was our choice, like we talked about, I was like, 447 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480 oh, thank goodness, because I just I didn't Right now, there's 448 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,400 so much good stuff going on. I don't need another Huie and Annie aren'tetting 449 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,799 along because x Y and Z. So overall, like I said, I 450 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,720 don't know if I bought her going so hard on Firecracker. I get she 451 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:23,079 was mad, but overall, the whole segment of Firecracker, Hueie, the 452 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,799 abortion Annie, I liked the I liked the whole thing. And now Annie's 453 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,559 lost some support. So how do you feeling about those ones? Yeah? 454 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:36,000 I think it was It was a pretty strong blow against Annie because we had 455 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:40,759 her setting up an alliance with what was his name. He's like the politician 456 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:42,839 running for president, run for president, Yeah, and so he's trying to 457 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,240 take out the head popper below him. So he's he's cut that off now 458 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,759 with her because she made it gone. Yeah, the support's gone. She 459 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,799 made a stunt like that on live TV with the camera men. And so 460 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,759 the abortion too, not so much for like right or wrong, but it's 461 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:03,880 like she specifically grew up they are against that and from her values, we're 462 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,359 clearly she doesn't share those values. But that was another reason as well too, 463 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,319 right, because she looks kind of like a like a fraud or something 464 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,440 for doing that. But I feel like she's not been in her mom's community 465 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,000 for many years, like since this show started. So it's interesting too because 466 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,039 you have I mean, Ryan's the only natural born soup, right, so 467 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,279 it wasn't supposed to be a thing, and here is start like getting pregnant. 468 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,480 So that's interesting, right. I feel like the baby would have to 469 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,880 go to a term though to know if it was a soup though, right, 470 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,440 it could have just been a person again, right, But yeah, 471 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,599 yeah, but no, I think every I think everything was going on with 472 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,880 Firecracker kind of stoken that fire a little bit and trying to it's great and 473 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,519 taking this character. Yeah, and I think she's she's pretty good. Yeah, 474 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:55,079 And I think everything with them just sitting up across the shop from uh 475 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,160 where they're working, Like it's just so much. They don't even have an 476 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,680 audience, but they're making it look like it's a big out with the way 477 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,440 the cameras are set up in their performance on stage, So there's a lot 478 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:10,279 of dynamic going on there, and her trailer too with that like sparkly gun 479 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:15,519 and like the drugs hidden inside there, and there's they're snooping around and yeah, 480 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,960 so I don't have much else to add, just that it's it's I'm 481 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,480 glad, I'm with you, that I'm glad Hugheye and her are on the 482 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,200 same page, are both where I don't need more of a dynamic in there, 483 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,160 just because it feels like too they're both venturing down their own paths for 484 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,519 a lot of this, Like I feel like they've joined forces and some problems, 485 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:37,799 but Hughey's dealing with his dad on his own and Starlight is dealing with 486 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,720 the world on her own right now. So they've definitely got a two tower 487 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,200 situation going on where they're a team, but they're on different places of the 488 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,359 Middle Earth there. So I wasn't gonna ask you about Sneeker on the trailer 489 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,920 because that's the only thing with Butcher I wanted to talk about. So Firecracker 490 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,160 has some sort of help her bodyguard and stretch and everything fun little fights in 491 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,960 there. Butcher used the extinguisher to break his arm. Stuff. Who the 492 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640 fuck killed that guy? Because what happens is Butcher's on the ground and he's 493 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,279 getting choked out and it fades the black and then when he wakes up, 494 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,440 that guy's body is ripped to shreds. What do you think happened? I 495 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,279 think it was a Butcher because you see a focus on like the worm things 496 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:18,319 moving through his head, right, So I think that there's just something and 497 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880 he blacked out. He doesn't know what happened. So I feel like there's 498 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,880 something going on with him. He we already know he took He didn't take 499 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Temp V. He actually took like the compound V. Yeah, so that's 500 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,279 very crazy, and I feel like it's definitely just a different power that he's 501 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:40,000 got that he's not sure about. So yeah, because I was trying to 502 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,799 think like if a train already wasn't on the good side, I thought, 503 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,480 oh, maybe it was him, and this is him like getting it out 504 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,680 there that he is gonna help the boys, but he's already the boys. 505 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,240 He wouldn't wouldn't have to do like a sneaky scene, so I couldn't. 506 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,839 Really. The only one that also popped into my mind was Ryan because he 507 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:02,200 said the Homelander of he doesn't want Butcher to get killed. They had that 508 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680 moment where they bonded over the food and the games. I could see a 509 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:11,160 moment where he landed because he's ripped up the way like Homelander could rip someone 510 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:12,640 up, right, And you're right about the worms, there's something going on 511 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,559 there. I'm not sure if that could just show sickness or power, but 512 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440 if there's anybody, if it is, that's my guess is that it was 513 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:22,920 Ryan saving them. So and we didn't see Ryan this episode. That was 514 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,200 my other reason why too. He wasn't with Homelander, he wasn't with the 515 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,359 boys and stuff, and that could be something. And then now, is 516 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,839 it a stretch that Ryan would fucking kill one just kill someone purposely and then 517 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,039 also ripped them apart like that? Absolutely, I think that is like a 518 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:41,960 big jump to like for a kid to do that, but this is the 519 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,519 Boys. They could do it, and I could understand if people didn't like 520 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,000 that writing of because he's supposed to hopefully turn good and be on our side. 521 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,400 But in this episode, if you just twear some of the complete pieces, 522 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:53,599 I could see someone having a problem with it. I just need to 523 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:59,039 see the execution of it going forward. Yeah, yeah, anything else on 524 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Butcher the boys just still being the leader to talk about them, still the 525 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,200 leader brought Butcher back in, and I like how Butcher he's just he knows 526 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,880 what's going on, Like he's calling Starlette out, like why has Firecracker got 527 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,400 such a beef with you? And yeah, Starling it's like, well, 528 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:19,599 yeah, nothing, I don't know. Yeah, I think for the time 529 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,920 that he's like back with the boys. I don't even know if we needed 530 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,319 it was a minor storyline, but still I don't think we even needed them 531 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:30,039 throwing him out for a little bit. Yeah that way, like I thought 532 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,559 he was getta get thrown out, he'd pair with Jeffrey Dean Morgan's agency, 533 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640 and that's how they'd bump into each other as they're on the same mission. 534 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,759 But your guys are the boys that I'm with. Whatever Morgan's character is, 535 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:45,960 right, But they didn't do that, and we still haven't seen Morgan yet, 536 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,599 so I yeah, I don't know. It's yeah, it's interesting. 537 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,160 I'm curious of which route they're gonna go down there, so we'll see the 538 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,440 other Oh am, I forgetting I was just gonna bring them up. I'm 539 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,839 sorry. We have seen Morgan by just me like, we haven't seen him 540 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,440 officially recruit Butcher yet. Sorry I misspoke there, right, Like, we 541 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:12,640 just haven't seen that collection get together yet, right, So ah, god, 542 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,000 there's another one. Go. Yeah. So she had that dueled that 543 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,920 girl, and that's more of the trafficking stuff. I was happy with the 544 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,119 amount that was in there because, as I've said before, those storylines don't 545 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,880 do much for me. So I've had it with that one, and I 546 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:31,240 was happy, happy enough. I'm not really invested in Frenchie's story. It's 547 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:36,240 not because he's gay, as people like you know pointed out, like with 548 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,519 Star Wars and the Boys this week of like how much stuff of like, 549 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,160 oh, I'm not watching anymore because I did as I said last week, 550 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,599 there was multiple times in the show that they had inferred that he was with 551 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:51,480 men. So I know it's nothing like I don't think the storyline's bad of 552 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160 he's with this guy and the guy finds out he kills his family, because 553 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,079 hey, I'm with the guy too. If I find out someone killed my 554 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,400 family, I'm not It doesn't matter how good a blowjob they're doing, like 555 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:05,359 you're gonna of gonna beat you up a little bit. Yeah, I don't 556 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,480 know. It's not bad, but I'm just not. I guess I'm just 557 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,639 not invested in it. I guess I'm just like. I think it's also 558 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,920 because we just met this guy character, and I just feel like the chemistry's 559 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,400 out there. We haven't time to really grow with the relationship, so I 560 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,519 think it's fine. I did like that character's reaction. I liked it. 561 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,079 It wasn't like, oh, you know, I understand I like to just 562 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,679 beat the shit of them and said, oh, if I ever see you 563 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,800 again, I'm gonna kill you. Do I believe that. No, I 564 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,880 think they'll probably find a way to get back together somehow. But like I 565 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,760 said, if it's a good, if that's a resolution, I guess I 566 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,039 don't know if I can say it's good because it's like what we're doing for 567 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:43,119 episodes. But yeah, what do you feel about Camico and uh Frenchy storylines 568 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,679 right now. Yeah, Kamiko, I love the buddy buddy kind of storyline 569 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,519 here with Huie and her and just the you know the fact that her past 570 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,760 is kind of coming down to bite them in the button she's giving like the 571 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,840 crash course on survival to Huey with the shield and the box cutter and all 572 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:07,760 that which worked definitely saved his life. And she took a grenade like to 573 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,280 the gut and she's just exploded in half and then healed up. That was 574 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,840 just crazy, absolutely crazy. But yeah, as far as it goes with 575 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,840 Frenchie, I'm I'm not sure where exactly the story will go to now, 576 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:25,840 Like he's just yeah, he told the truth. And we got a little 577 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,800 bit backstory too, because it turns out that his partner was there at the 578 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,440 time, hiding under the bed, and so there's the identifying guard foot gardfoot. 579 00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:38,280 Yeah, so there was definitely some stuff going on, and that just 580 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,880 it does make it more traumatizing for Frenchie. But yeah, I just I'm 581 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,679 not sure what this serves because I don't think we're going to pursue this relationship 582 00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:51,360 moving forward, and I'm not sure so I think they'll get back together somehow. 583 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,079 Really, I think Frenchie will save him or some ship and then they'll 584 00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:59,480 like understand where he's coming from. Of course that's a family killing veto if 585 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,280 they save it. Yeah, all's forgiven if you save me. So because 586 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,119 she also still works with Anne Annie, right, Like, I'm not sure. 587 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,440 I'm not sure what's gonna happen with Annie's camp after this whole beatdown. 588 00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:14,480 As we saw this episode, people are pulling out that president hopefully to be 589 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,960 elected was so maybe there won't even be like a group base camp of her 590 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,519 supporters. But if there is, he is there. So I imagine they'll 591 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,320 bump to each other a couple more times. Even if they don't end up 592 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,360 dating again, I can see them at least having like a like a Mia 593 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,599 Kolpa like okay again, not forgive you, but like I understand, and 594 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,519 then move on never talk to each other, you know. So, Yeah, 595 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:43,760 is there anyone or anything we're missing from this episode that you can think 596 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,480 of? Oh, I got Homelander, God, Chey's dad, Kimic Coo 597 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:54,599 and then firecrackers start like yeah, I don't think we are black, nor 598 00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:59,840 wasn't in any gems from New Noir. So we'll have to wait and see, 599 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:05,800 is the brief moment because Sister Stage is kind of giving everyone the run 600 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,079 down the plans, and he rocks up like I talked to you real fast 601 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:13,519 and she's like, nope, poor New Noir, just like the kicking, 602 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,079 kicking bag of the whole entire team. So yeah, I'm looking forward to 603 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:21,960 to see like can he fight, does he have any powers, or if 604 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,239 he is really just an actor? And I'm because I feel like, whether 605 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,119 it's this season or next season, there's gonna be like a big fight and 606 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,679 someone's gonna square off with no War and she's like kill him super easily, 607 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,280 and they'll be like like, isn't this guy's gouna be a bad ass like 608 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,639 Winter Soldier type? But yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen to you. 609 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,400 We don't Yeah, we don't even know if he has a soup. 610 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:45,199 I guess you're right. Yeah, so yeah, we will see. I 611 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,519 don't think I got anything else. I think that pretty much covers it. 612 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,079 Yeah, I think so too. I think we cover most of the stuff 613 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,679 because it's like like we said, I don't think it's not like a basic 614 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,519 episode. There's developments, but they're all kind of straightforward there, so yeah, 615 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,199 yeah, no, I'm I'm enjoying, Like I'm very much enjoying. 616 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,800 I think I'm like, I think I'm like underplaying it. But I think 617 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,920 it's just like I would have bigger things, all bigger things, say when 618 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,719 like big developments happen, or like the pilots or the finales. But it's 619 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,920 just like there's a certain quality I expect with the boys, and they're just 620 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,719 hitting it and it feels so good, especially when we live in a time 621 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,719 where like for me, like Star Wars that's up and down, Marvel shows 622 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400 are up and down. You know. The Boys, it's just like it's 623 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,599 now that it's chicken suit for the soul because you get some senior guys fucking 624 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,039 wanking it and getting his dick lasered off. But it's it's almost averse that 625 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,079 if I had more to say it, probably the show could be in trouble 626 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,079 unless it's a big development, but like because there'd be all these complaints and 627 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,960 so far have no complaints like they have these, and even stuff that might 628 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,760 be like predictable, it's like it's predictable in the good sense of the story 629 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,519 has to go this way for it to make sense, you know so, 630 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,800 and stuff like Homeland are going to his origin, frenchyeing, that boyfriend breaking 631 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,400 up. I'm glad that these things are happening midway through the season already, 632 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000 so they're already we can get into new stuff or dive in that stuff more 633 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,400 down the road. It's not like, like I said, I worried that 634 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,239 they were gonna kick the can a bit on that Homelander origin thing, but 635 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,400 no, it's it's done with now, you know so, And I think 636 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,840 it was the right amount. I think one episode's god like whatever, one 637 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,360 episode his runtime, that was good, Like, I don't think there's any 638 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,280 more there they could have done and it wouldn't get redundant. So yeah, 639 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,719 we will be back next week for episode five. See what fucking power who 640 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,840 his dad gets? Because that was before homelanders ending. That was the big 641 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,039 thing. He opened his eyes if we didn't be clear, he opened his 642 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,159 eyes. He's alive and looks like he has power. So not sure what's 643 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,440 gonna happen there, just even in general, and that's one it's gonna be 644 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,440 good to see. Uh God, what's this? Why? Uh? Why? 645 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:44,320 I forget his name? Scott what is his name? Who was he? 646 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,079 Actually the place? His dad Simon Peg, Sam Peg, thank you. 647 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:50,280 I don't know why since Scott Peg, but Sam Peg Like that's also 648 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,000 gonna next week out a new dynamic when he's awake and his ex wife's there 649 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,599 with his son and everything. Right, so I think again already, it's 650 00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:00,079 like we know what's gonna happen next week is the Superpowers with him? And 651 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,280 also just like what's the dynamic of these three back together as it was clearly 652 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,280 a damaged relationship. So yeah, I forgot to mention a quick interjection. 653 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,280 At the rally with Firecracker, they did some name drops like Kanye and they 654 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,519 draw John Voight's in the Yeah they did, Yeah, I can't remember who 655 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,760 they yeah, yeah, right, Kanye was the one that they're like, 656 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,840 oh Kanye, and then like cut away to show him not on there, 657 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960 which you never know with this show if they would have been there or not. 658 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,320 A Tran's movies going to production. They showed some stuff with him and 659 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,519 will Fare like promotion stuff, which that was funny. So that's good stuff 660 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,280 and oh that's the thing to you have. I also just liked Atran going 661 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,599 through Homelander's house, just being like like he didn't say this, but just 662 00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:43,599 his face, Like this guy's fucked up, like all the things he's keeping. 663 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,440 And imagine, if you don't have the context, you're like, what 664 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,239 cubes? Yeah, baby Mill, who is this fucking guy? So who 665 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,079 knows. We'll see what homelanders up to next week. So yeah, Episode 666 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,559 five will be back and it will not be boring. Bye.