WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.679 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.839 two SAD at iHeartRadio Station. A good afternoon. Welcome down to the Ball 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:24.960 now on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host, Jagan Zales. I'm 5 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:28.519 not solo today, but my partner, Steve is on the road headed to 6 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.039 the Alabama Arizona game up in Phoenix. He's trying to beat the traffic so 7 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:36.600 decided to get an early start. So in his place tonight today, I've 8 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:43.240 got my friend, my son, former sports information director at Arizona, covering 9 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.759 football, women's basketball, among other things. Adam Gonzalez. Adam, thanks 10 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:49.039 for being here, of course, thanks for having me. I appreciate you, 11 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.759 man. I know you probably see too much of me as it is, 12 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:55.560 but I do appreciate you being here. It's a big day for Arizona 13 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.920 Athletics, both from with the recruiting signing day to day and then you got 14 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:03.920 a big game with Alabama tonight. Yeah, and the women's team playing Gonzaga 15 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.280 right now down a point just started the second quarter. Yep. Playing them 16 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.120 tough. So it's the twenty twenty two nineteen Gonzaga. But Arizona, you 17 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.840 know, you know, doing pretty well right now. That Hall of Fame, 18 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.439 the Jerry Clangelo Hall of Fame Classic up in Phoenix. It's the same 19 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.840 event that the men are playing in tonight. Schedule for nine o'clock ASU women 20 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.760 a SU men are also playing in this thing. You're gonna be uh, 21 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:27.760 you're gonna say it for the whole game. I am. I'm not. 22 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.480 I'm probably not even gonna take a nap to get there. I'm gonna watch 23 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.439 the game and just trying to stay awake. I'm gonna gut it out. 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:38.280 But today is a big, a big day for at least for Arizona football. 25 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.159 Jed Fish and his crew signing a class of when I left the press 26 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:47.760 conference a little bit ago, they signed twenty guys, a combination of high 27 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.480 school recruits, a couple of transfers, a couple of guys who had flipped. 28 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.319 They got a big time quarterback out of Phoenix. And you talked about 29 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.879 a lot of that, and uh, and you know he's got We've got 30 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:01.239 play some of his comments here in a second. We want to let you 31 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.519 know, we do have Ryan Hansen joining us at about three twenty to talk 32 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.759 about the game tonight with Alabama. Ryan, as you know, was the 33 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.680 color analyst on the radio next to Brian Jeffery, So he'll give us his 34 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:19.479 thoughts on the Albate Obama game tonight. And then in the second how we're 35 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.439 gonna bring him Matt Modena, who will give us some of the specifics of 36 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:27.479 the Arizona class what he thinks of it. It's not as highly rated as 37 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.560 some of the other classes have been, but as you'll hear Jed say, 38 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.479 they went out to fill some needs and that's what that's what they were trying 39 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.439 to do. And that's a good place for Arizona to be in. Where 40 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.080 As before you just wanted you just needed good players. Right now they can 41 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:45.159 address certain goals exactly exactly. And that's really what pretty much what he said 42 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:49.599 today because he was asked, okay, so your first real recruiting class, 43 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:51.879 so not the one that he had to work on when he got here, 44 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.719 but his first full class. They focused on the offense, and the offense 45 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.439 took the big leap, that's the twenty twenty two, and then he got 46 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.039 the twenty twenty two classes really in the heart of the team so far. 47 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:07.319 Last year they focused on defense. So based on all that, Jed was 48 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.919 asked, Okay, so what is the theme of this class. What were 49 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:16.120 you guys looking for? This class really filled a lot of needs for us 50 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:22.599 in terms of depth and be able to really build the program the way we 51 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:27.319 wanted it to. We wanted to make sure we always had a great quarterback 52 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:32.039 as number one. Right Currently in our quarterback room we have the Freshman Player 53 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.120 of the Year in the PAC twelve of twenty twenty one, and the Freshman 54 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.319 Player of the Year of the PAC twelve in twenty twenty three, and now 55 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:43.039 we have an elite freshmen coming in. So we were always going to be 56 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:47.639 able to build our quarterback class. We wanted to make sure we continued in 57 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.560 our running back room to replace We needed to replace two there three really when 58 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:00.520 you count Stevie Rocker and then Mike Wiley and dj All moving on. When 59 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:05.360 it comes to receiver, you know we're only losing just Jacob Cowan. And 60 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:11.120 then defensively, as we've talked about, we want to get youth to then 61 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.479 push the older guys, and then we want the older guys to teach the 62 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.720 youth in the d line, and then at the linebacker position, we went 63 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:23.399 back to the youth because of the fact that we have Jacob Manu justin flow. 64 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.920 Then we have Tay Brown, then we have Kamu, now we have 65 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:31.079 Stacy Bay coming in. And then in the secondary, we really loaded up. 66 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:35.279 We loaded up with guys in the secondary because all of our secondary is 67 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:40.319 returning, but all of them are moving on probably are the safeties for sure 68 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.000 at the end of the year. So the theme is continue to get better 69 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.560 and continue to build depth that soon that this group will be able to take 70 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:54.399 over and become the stars of the team. So so really, I mean 71 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.040 that, you know, when you get to where they are, they're ninety 72 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.000 three, they obviously have a really good team. You're just and that's that's 73 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.480 a sign that there's no desperation. It's not like, as you said, 74 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:09.399 just trying to get good players at every position. Right. It's funny when 75 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.959 he started off with the quarterbacks, it reminded me of rich Ardriguez saying he 76 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.439 likes to collect quarterbacks exactly, and he had a collection. Oh yeah, 77 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.800 but no, it's a it's a good place to be in for sure. 78 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:25.759 It's a place that Arizona hasn't been in in a bit. Yep. And 79 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.759 I'm sure this was not necessarily to say it wasn't a stressful, you know 80 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.000 time recruiting this class, but a little less stressful, I would imagine it 81 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:39.680 seems like maybe easier too, well maybe easier when and that gets you're, 82 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.240 you're really you're, you're, you're taking us right into the next thing, 83 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:46.120 because you know, he was asked, what was it? What's the difference 84 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.519 between the way you had to recruit and what you were selling when you got 85 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:53.480 here versus what you're selling now. And I don't know if you'd call it 86 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:58.800 easier, but it's certainly different. We have a better understanding of our team, 87 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.920 and we have a better understanding of our needs and wants. So as 88 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:08.879 we're able to go out there to the landscape, we're able to share specifically 89 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.160 with the player, this is how you fit into our system, this is 90 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.560 who you would be replacing one day. So watch him, look to see 91 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.360 what that looks like. Take an eye and see do you like the way 92 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:27.240 t Mac produces? You know, do you like the way Jacob Cowing produces? 93 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.720 Do you like the way Jonah Coleman produces, Okay, well, those 94 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:35.360 guys are juniors next year, you would be an incoming freshman. Do you 95 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:41.879 like the way Isaiah Ward as a pass rusher Ephesians Price Sock as a corner, 96 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.920 to Carlo Davis as a corner, Jacob Mono is a linebacker. They're 97 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.360 all juniors next year, and now we're able to point the players and they're 98 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.680 able to say, do you like the way they develop? Do you see 99 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.839 how much better they've gotten? You know, how does a player come in 100 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:00.000 here that has had no offers and become a first team All Pac twelve linebacker 101 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.920 in two years? How does a player come in here that had minimal offers 102 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:08.199 that chose to come to Arizona, brought three of his teammates and become the 103 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.879 freshman player of the Year and be on the Heisman watch list for a year 104 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.759 from now. It's a development of the players. And now we could sell 105 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.800 the development rather than talk about, hey, if you come here, we 106 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.600 will develop you. Now we're able to show them how players and our team 107 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.839 have developed. That's a big deal, one hundred percent. You know, 108 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.000 in two years he's established really a solid track record for for what they can 109 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:35.199 do here because he's got these guys who you know, have become you know 110 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.920 who they are. Jacob Mine is a perfect example. You know, we 111 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:45.879 had what we had, but talk about you know, did you think Jacob 112 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:47.879 Mine was going to be really good? I can't remember if it was Lamont 113 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.360 Hunley or no. I take back, it was Donnie Salem, your linebacker 114 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.560 you know from the eighties, said what did you think of Jacob Mine? 115 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.240 Said? I thought he was too small? You know, I just thought 116 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.279 he was too small. And I watched him running around up and he's proven 117 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.319 that he's not too small. Even though he's not a big linebacker, what 118 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.120 he's been able to do shows that his size hasn't mattered. And here's the 119 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.399 thing. The good teams. Everybody says, oh, you know Ohio State, 120 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.560 Georgia, Alabama, those guys, those guys get all the best recruits 121 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.759 because you know, they win the championships. That's not true. They get 122 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.399 the best guys because they send the most guys in the NFL. Right, 123 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.480 So if you're developing these guys, that's gonna show that's you're gonna give him 124 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.959 better players. Right, If you're getting guys in the NFL what's been the 125 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.320 big the big knock on Arizona for the you know, since the rich Rod 126 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.919 years. You're not getting guys into the NFL. How are you going to 127 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:37.759 get players? Because even rich Rod, even though he had some good teams, 128 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.600 those guys weren't going in the NFL. So you'd be right, didn't 129 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.159 make it into the NFL. You know, Andrew Solomon, who was you 130 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.039 know it probably had as great a freshman year as anybody. You know, 131 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.159 he didn't even finish his college career. His players were not going to the 132 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.720 NFL. Those receivers that he had, you know, Buckner and and and 133 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.759 and uh and uh, Austin Hill, Austin Hill and all those guys. 134 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.799 Know, those guys did not get into the NFL. And that's what these 135 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.360 guys are looking for. Absolutely absolutely, So I thought one of the one 136 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:13.200 of the more interesting uh what not what answers was you know his the the 137 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:20.240 u of A's approach to recruiting in the transfer portal, uh era, because 138 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.759 you have you know, you have Deon Sanders, who's on one extreme where 139 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:28.279 he's building his team in the transfer portal. Really isn't you know, making 140 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.679 very little effort to get guys out of high school. And then you got, 141 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:39.080 uh the guy from Clemsonosweeney, who doesn't want to recruit the portal and 142 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.440 he's trying to build it all entirely on high school players, and his program 143 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.360 is deteriorate. Well, I think with Colorado they have to go transfer portal 144 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.320 first, Like that's just kind of the position they're in. You need if 145 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.159 you want to make it quick, which is kind of how you have to 146 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.000 do it these days. You have to go transfer portal and then once you 147 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.120 kind of have a base right there, that's then you can start going a 148 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.039 little more heavier high school. I understand, And I wasn't trying to play. 149 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:03.840 He's going to do it like that from now on, because you know, 150 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.120 Jed turned his program around great quickly through the transfer portal, but he 151 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.399 also went out and got a whole you know, some great high school recruiting 152 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.879 classes. But here's not how he talked about what his approach is and what 153 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:22.759 the program's approach is to recruiting high school and the portal. Our freshmen are 154 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.879 juniors from twenty twenty two, So why would I go out in the portal 155 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.559 and go take a junior rather than or a senior, rather than a guy 156 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.519 that's been with us for three years or two years going into three knows our 157 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:39.039 system and can lead our program. The guys that are out there portaling, 158 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.200 in my opinion, are out there portaling because people left their program and they 159 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.200 need to fill spots, or they're deciding that high school recruiting isn't that important. 160 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:48.399 I don't see it that way. I think where job as college coaches 161 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.960 is to recruit high school players and develop high school players, and then if 162 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.639 you need to fill a need, you go ahead and go fill in need 163 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.480 with a portal player, be a free agent, so to speak. The 164 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.440 best football teams build their program through the draft in the NFL, and then 165 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.000 they use free agency as a way to supplement a spot or two, similar 166 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:16.120 to what college football has become. The draft is recruiting and free agency would 167 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.919 be the portal. I would much prefer to train than retrain, and I 168 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.120 would much prefer to coach a player that walks in our building, that wants 169 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.480 to be here as a high school kid, that we can develop and we've 170 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:35.080 proven and we've shown our commitment to those players, and those players can be 171 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.919 in our program and our strength and conditioning program and our training program, and 172 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.240 I think it's a testament to our staff that people don't like to leave here. 173 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.200 And I think what you'll see is our team continues to get better because 174 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.679 guys don't leave here. You know the tail end of that comment, yeah, 175 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.960 because you know whats right where Arizona fans we're always thinking the worst, 176 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:01.639 and we're thinking Jed could leave at any minute and would start all over again. 177 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.240 But the tail end of that comment kind of got me believing that he's 178 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.759 kind of dug in here a little bit because he you know, he wants 179 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.799 to do this with this program and bring in players, and then he's not 180 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.960 bringing in players and tell them you know, we're gonna here develop you, 181 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.039 and then he's gonna take off somewhere. Well, what was his first mantra? 182 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.639 It's personal, right, right. I still think he lives by that 183 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.600 where there are so many people that probably told him, hey, this is 184 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.279 a terrible job. Why would you do This is your first head job. 185 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.159 You're gonna go You're gonna maybe win three games and then you'll get fired after 186 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.240 four years. We'll look at him now, he's probably saying, Hey, 187 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:41.159 I want to show why Arizona can consistently win eight to ten games. Yeah, 188 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.200 well, and then you know, as Arizona fans, we obviously hope 189 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.639 that's what it is. But all the all this stuff that we just played 190 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:58.399 really again kind of confirms how much planning when has gone into his system and 191 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.000 how he was going to approach being a head coach at this level. I 192 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.720 mean, he's he thinks all this stuff through and then he's got guys behind 193 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.240 him. Who are you know, we're helping to execute that. You know, 194 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.200 we're we're out of time here before we got to get Ryan Hanson on 195 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.480 a little later. I want to play this clip. Okay, you were 196 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.480 you were Jet? The s I d for Jet's first year was Matt Doherty 197 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.679 here when with him? I never met him, I've never seen him. 198 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.000 Awesome dude. He you know, we got a clip from him talking about 199 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.360 the in state recruiting. As impressive as anybody I've met. Yeah, Matt 200 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.679 Dorty is really really he's really good at what he does. Really impressive person, 201 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:37.720 awesome guy, And yeah, watching it doesn't surprise me. Yeah, 202 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.559 watching it. You know, he was part of the press conference today, 203 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:43.879 you know, had you know, Jed let him talk answer a couple of 204 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.600 questions, and I can understand you listen to me. You can understand how 205 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:54.399 he could get on the phone with a recruit or a parent or have somebody 206 00:13:54.440 --> 00:14:00.480 on campus. Uh. And you have to be impressed by the guy thirty 207 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.080 seconds for me to be totally impressed by you. Yeah. Yeah, But 208 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:09.080 he's what they call the director of player personnel basically recruiting coordinator, right, 209 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.159 or maybe a bit more than that. Yeah, definitely evaluator, all that 210 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.279 kind of stuff. I mean, it just runs the recruiting offer. He 211 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.320 kind of manages the roster. At least when I was there, he has 212 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.799 a big hand in managing the roster, if that makes sense from all asked 213 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:31.440 by that, You mean, I mean we like how many players are where, 214 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.919 like what we will need down the road, Like what kind of players 215 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.200 we will need, things like that. Well, very impressive guy. We're 216 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.200 gonna have to get him on the show at some point. All right, 217 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.039 we're here about to the first break, so we're gonna get Ryan Hanson and 218 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.080 we're gonna talk some basketball, get his thoughts on on the on the game 219 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.399 coming up tonight. It's a it's a uh, it's a big one. 220 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.919 I think it's a it's gonna be a fun game playing up at the uh 221 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.759 up at the Footprint Center. 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My buddy Steve is on 303 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:56.279 the road to Phoenix for the Alabama Arizona game tonight, as is our guest 304 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.920 right now, Ryan Hanson, who's joined the US on his up headed up. 305 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.160 I ten as well, so Rhino for joining us. We do appreciate 306 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.279 it. Great to be on Jay. Good to have you and your better 307 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.640 half Adam versus Steam. I'm much happier to have him on the air than 308 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.960 well. We certainly brought the average age of the room down quite a bit 309 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.200 with with Adam being here, no doubt so. So Rhino. First, 310 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.599 before we get to the Alabama game. First year, your thoughts coming out 311 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.039 of the Purdue game. You know, I mean, it was a loss, 312 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.000 but it was a loss to a really good team, essentially a road 313 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.160 game. Nothing to be freaked out about, panicked about. Maybe you know, 314 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.519 we saw some things that we hadn't seen, but you know, produce 315 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.319 a really good team. And what are your thoughts? I absolutely agree with 316 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.400 every point you've made, especially when you characterize who Purdue actually is. They 317 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.480 are one of the best offenses in the country, have arguably the player of 318 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.960 the year in the country, and someone you have to scheme for, you 319 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:03.359 have to account for. I would say Arizona's defense was not exposed by any 320 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.599 means. It wasn't like, oh man, Arizona's defense it's a fraud. 321 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.119 Purdue did some things because of their personnel that other teams aren't going to be 322 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.880 able to do against Arizona, and I thought that was good for the Wildcats 323 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.400 to have to find a different way defensively to win or at least to be 324 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:23.160 competitive in the second half. I loved that Tommy switched up to the zone 325 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.799 and when you really step back at you know, thirty five thousand feet, 326 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:33.319 Arizona was tied with Purdue at thirty. Purdue went on a run and looked 327 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.519 very good for a significant period of time over the end of the first half 328 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.039 into the beginning of the second, got up fifteen. Arizona then turned the 329 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:45.440 tables, helped Purdue without a field goal for seven and a half minutes, 330 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.119 went on a run of their own, got right back in the game. 331 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.680 You and I would both agree a two possession game is right back in the 332 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.000 game. And then Purdue made all the plays down the stretch. At that 333 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.119 point, Arizona couldn't, obviously, you know, get over the hump. 334 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.799 So what else did you learn from that? For me, if you score 335 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:06.960 eighty four points in a quasi road game against a high level team like Purdue, 336 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.640 your offense was probably good enough to win. It's really defensively, I 337 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.039 think Arizona gave up too many second shots, too many second chance points, 338 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.480 and they didn't defend the three point line very well trying to account for Zach 339 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.920 eating So even though the game was in December. How important do you think 340 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:29.680 that game, uh specifically was to you know, March and when it comes 341 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.000 to time to play a team like that, well, I think, first 342 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.720 of all, I think the selection committee will reward Arizona for playing that game. 343 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:41.480 There will be no demerits on their resume because they lost. Because you 344 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.039 can just see Purdue, They're gonna probably run through the Big Ten, you 345 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.480 know, not maybe unblemish, but with just a handful of losses at the 346 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:55.559 most. So you're staring down a loss at to to come selection Sunday for 347 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.680 the Wildcats. What I love, and I think it's a good point, 348 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:02.440 is you played against a different style of team, a team that sets on 349 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:06.599 ball screens away from the basket, with two players in particular that can stop 350 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:12.640 and pop for three. So Arizona's standard man demand drop coverage, meaning Lumar 351 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.279 Balo or Mo Cretis, whoever's guarding the big man setting that on ball screen 352 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.880 way up top at the top of the key or even further out. How 353 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:26.599 Arizona has defended that all year is worked just fine, But against Purdue, 354 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.160 they weren't able to defend it that way because those two guards came off the 355 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.920 screens and made shots. In addition, when you're going against a big like 356 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:40.119 Zach Edie, you've got a double team and in some cases and Arizona learned 357 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:44.240 some lessons of how to double team better, how to rotate better out of 358 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.359 those double teams, and they unfortunately learned it the hard way. Yeah, 359 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.119 so that game kind of felt like a pick your poison, and when those 360 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.400 two guys are shooting like that, it to me it felt like there was 361 00:24:53.799 --> 00:25:00.000 not a ton that Arizona could have done. Did it kind of feel that 362 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:06.240 the same way as every single shot was going down. I wouldn't actually characterize 363 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.920 that. I felt that Purdue a shot greater than their potential. Did their 364 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:15.400 two guards score over their averages, Yes, for sure, But I felt 365 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.200 like Arizona defensively could have changed some things. I felt like the double teaming 366 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.720 and the post came from the wrong places a couple of times. I felt 367 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.319 like the rotations were slow, so those shots were far more open than they 368 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:32.079 should have been. But I do agree with you that you don't want Zach 369 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.359 Edie to go for forty and really just destroy you from the inside out. 370 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:42.160 So it is a little bit of you don't sacrifice completely one for the other, 371 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.000 but you do have to account for it dramatically. And I get your 372 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.440 point of saying, boy, you can't just then lock up on the guards 373 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:53.319 and let Zach Edie roam unguarded practically, and that's what they did. So 374 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:57.240 we got a game with Alabama tonight. Two teams in terms of the way 375 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.680 they like to run up and down the floor. There's you know, it's 376 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.480 kind of one of those games where both teams are expecting to get well into 377 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:08.000 well into the into the eighties. What what what are we going to see 378 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.480 tonight? Are these teams as similar as we think in terms of what they 379 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.720 do? Definitely from a pace perspective, Jay, you've nailed it. These 380 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.039 two teams probably want to play as fast as any in the country, especially 381 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.519 at the power five level, get it and go from almost all five positions. 382 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.319 Alabama can do it from four of their five starters. Rip a defensive 383 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.480 rebound and their four man is very comfortable get taking it up the floor, 384 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.559 Grant Nelson just like a Keisha Johnson would be. They try to spread you 385 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.680 out offensively, uh and really are looking for driving lanes. They want to 386 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:51.559 get downhill and attack the lane with their perimeter drivers. The big difference for 387 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:56.759 me is their post play. Their big men aren't looking to post up on 388 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.119 the low block. They're kind of standing in the short corner waiting for a 389 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:04.960 driver to attack the lane, and the health defense then fags in on the 390 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:11.119 driver and there they become lob threats or dump off threats versus traditional back to 391 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:17.960 the basket low post post scores. That's probably one of the biggest differences offensively 392 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:23.519 between the two teams. Dead for you, that means the dunker spot what 393 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:30.319 that means, okay, I don't but that's okay. And wreck ball for 394 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:37.480 j that's the layups. So so so where where you know? What's the 395 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.880 I don't know, I mean, what's the key? I mean? Who 396 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:45.039 who has to play really really well tonight to to defend what Alabama does. 397 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:52.880 Arizona's entire perimeter defense is going to be on call. Alabama has a multitude 398 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.480 of perimeter guys that are versatile, that can handle the ball, that love 399 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:03.400 getting downhill. So the perimeter defenders cannot allow straight line drives, meaning just 400 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.559 drives straight at the rim that are easy drives for them to finish. The 401 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:14.960 Wildcats have to also not help so dramatically off of their man to help that 402 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.519 driver that they expose. You know, they leave a rim runner like Nick 403 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:25.599 Pringle for lob threats or Mohamed Woggi for lob threats. But the other scary 404 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.880 part, Jay, that you've read about Alabama is ready to shoot threes. 405 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.839 Now, they shoot twenty eight threes a game. I would expect them to 406 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.799 shoot over thirty tonight, and so they kind of want you to help off 407 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.200 of your man with that drive because they're looking for lobs or kickouts for threes. 408 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.000 So defending the three point line might be the most critical stat for the 409 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.920 Wildcats tonight. And I say that because that's not been their strength thus far 410 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:59.200 defensively. The Arizona is a much better rim protecting team and lane protecting team 411 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:04.079 statistically then they have been three point line defensive efficiency, and so that may 412 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.000 be the key one. Well. And as you said, you know, 413 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.839 they're coming off a game where that was the key to that game is that 414 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:15.359 they didn't defend the three point line. So correct Arizona, Jay. Just 415 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.680 to kind of add to your point there, part of the reason why Purdue 416 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:23.079 had all the open threes was Zach Edy Alabama does not have Zach Edy. 417 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:29.839 I don't anticipate Arizona double teaming in the post if there is even a traditional 418 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:36.440 post pass to an Alabama postman, So you won't see exactly the same type 419 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.480 of potential open threes that Purdue did. But you are right in the fact 420 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.960 that running shooters off the three point line is going to be big. How 421 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:51.359 much do you think Tommy has challenged Kylin because it was pretty glaring to see 422 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.039 how much he didn't play in the second half because he just wasn't defending great 423 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.640 and he and he'll tell you that too, But this feels like a big 424 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.000 game for him to kind of have a good bounce back. And he's still 425 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.880 a super young kid. But what do you think Tommy's saying to him, 426 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.799 Adam, that's a great point, right, He is still a young sophomore. 427 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.880 He's still developing. He came out of the shoot so incredibly poised. 428 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:18.119 His shooting percentages were so good. He was a bull defensively that I think 429 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.400 everybody's expectations just shot through the roof of who he could be at the end 430 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.480 of the year. So he's going to have his ups and downs, and 431 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.319 you're right, he didn't have his best game, he didn't have his best 432 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:33.720 shooting game. He clearly defensively was not in the best five during that second 433 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.880 half run. So Tommy went with the best five, and it happened to 434 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.359 be Jaden Bradley running the point. Defensively, more so than anything for Arizona, 435 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.000 Arizona's got to have Kylon Boswell tonight play better. And a lot of 436 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.759 it is because of how good Alabama is on the perimeter. Kylon's going to 437 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:55.200 be needed to guard their best player in Mark Spears, And I think Kyland 438 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.799 physically has a great chance to defend Mark spears Well. Mark is not super 439 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.359 toll, but he's loaded the ground, tough, explosive with the dribble, 440 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.839 can finish at the rim. That kind of suits Kyland defensively, I think. 441 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:12.079 And so what Arizona needs Kyland to be Kylan uh and not. I 442 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.039 don't want to say disappeared against Purdue, but Adam, you're right, it 443 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.880 was not the Kylan that we've grown used to seeing. So let's flip this 444 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.160 over. What does Alabama have to do? What's what Arizona does, Because 445 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.920 you know, Tom's to say we're gonna do what we're gonna do. They're 446 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.079 gonna have to find an answer for Umar Ballo and Mo Crebus. I think 447 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:36.799 they're gonna They clearly have lost some of their rim protection. They're not blocking 448 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.559 shots at the same rate that they did last year. They lost an NBA 449 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.759 draft pick from the middle of their defense from last year's group. Uh, 450 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.279 they can get it. Their foul trouble prone. You look at Mohammed Wagi, 451 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.640 He's the transfer from West Virginia, maybe the best defender in the post 452 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.480 group. He's fouled out of the last two games against Creighton and Purdue. 453 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:02.559 Uh So it can't Arizona get him into foul trouble. I think for Alabama 454 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.599 this year, it's defensively, can they match how good they are offensively? 455 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:14.519 They're good defensively, they're elite offensively. So for them, can they stop 456 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.799 Arizona enough? And can they account for the Wildcats in the painted area? 457 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.960 How much fun is this going to be for Arizona Because you know, you 458 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.119 come off a game like that, you want to you know, you want 459 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.599 to come back and you know prove or show you know that that wasn't us 460 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.200 the other day. We're better than that. But those games, there's they're 461 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.480 not. They shouldn't be pressure for these guys. They should be fun. 462 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:43.359 They absolutely should be. I'm glad Arizona is not playing a home game against 463 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:50.559 Directional Universe. Could they could come home and play Western Texas University which doesn't 464 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.039 exist, But let's just use that for an example and blow them out by 465 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:58.519 thirty and everybody goes home with the holiday spirit feeling like all as well. 466 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:05.799 But Tommy knows that did we at step take a step forward tonight if they 467 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.319 lose? Is at the end of the season, of course not. This 468 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:14.359 is an exceptional group in Alabama who is much better than their record would portray 469 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.400 at six and four, primarily because of the strength of their opponents and the 470 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.000 schedule that they've played. But this is exactly what you've talked about, Jay, 471 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.599 in an NBA arena again, playing against a high level power five opponent 472 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.799 who wants to play your style. Wildcats should be salivating at an opportunity to 473 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:37.519 what kind of restamp their dominance or at least their place in the top ten 474 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.759 in the country. Tonight on national television against Alabama should be fun? All 475 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.359 RIGHTO have a good game tonight. Yard Wildcat Sports twelve ninety. If you 476 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.799 sit next to Brian Jefferies, you know, turn the volume down on your 477 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.839 TV and listen to rhightin on and Ryano and Brian do the game right, 478 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:02.799 Jay and Adam? Great talking to you all right, Ryan answered from again 479 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.920 twelve ninety. Yeah, this guy has been doing this for a long time. 480 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.880 Started out as a manager at Arizona. Just guys stuck around and still 481 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:15.039 hanging around doing the basketball stuff. And he's been great. He's I mean, 482 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:16.519 when I was a kid, I remember listening to that all the time. 483 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.840 Yeah, and you know what, he still looks way younger than your 484 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.519 dad too. Anyways. Okay, so we'll take your calls in the next 485 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.159 segment five two zero four one six seventy four forty still got a couple of 486 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:34.119 clips to play from Jed Fish's press conference. Promises a clip on Matt Doherty, 487 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.519 who was just very impressive, the director of player personnel for Arizona. 488 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.400 So stick around for that. We'll be right back. 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Subscribe now to the podcast on 537 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.440 the iHeartRadio while Just Surgery, I on the Ball talking back on the Ball. 538 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.079 I'm your host for the day, Jay Gobzalas my partner Steve Rivera is 539 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.599 on the road headed to the Arizona Alabama game up in Phoenix. I've got 540 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:31.000 a very capable partner today in Adam Gonzalez, who most recently sports information guy 541 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.199 out of Arizona out of the U of A, worked at jed Fish in 542 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.760 his first year at Arizona, also spent some time including a Final four run 543 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.000 with the Dia Barnes. We do have the Arizona Gonzaga game for going on 544 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.440 as we speak, not going as well as it was last time we talked 545 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:54.840 about it. No, yeah, I got solids fifty one thirty five middle 546 00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.519 of the middle of the third quarter. Go Zag has been pulling away because 547 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.360 that is pretty good. I think they're ranked number yes, yes, they're 548 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.880 ranked so you know Arizona's had had its work cut out from to begin with. 549 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.159 Anyways, So anyways, you want to get back to the recruiting National 550 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:15.119 Signing Day today for Arizona, just wanted to get to the in state piece 551 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.880 of this because it was it was brought up and Jeed's made it a Jeedfish 552 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.239 has made it a priority and said when he got here, he said, 553 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.840 we've got to get the guys out of Arizona, and and he has been. 554 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.760 It hasn't been lip service. They've got some more guys today, including 555 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.519 what you would call the prize of this recruiting class before star quarterback out of 556 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.320 out of Phoenix. But I had his press conference to day. He brought 557 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.920 Matt Doherty with him, who's his titles, Director of Player Personnel, which 558 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.159 goes beyond just you know, coordinating the recruiting. He's basically managing as this 559 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:51.599 says, managing the personnel. But Jed asked Matt to answered the question about, 560 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.599 you know, the focus on in state recruiting and how important that is 561 00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.039 and how they're going about it here at Arizona. Obviously it was talked about 562 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.880 at the outset of coach Fish being hired, but then put into practice. 563 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.840 It's just the consistency, and then it's the volume in terms of the people 564 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.000 involved. Starting with the head football coach. I think all six of these 565 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.519 guys that signed today would tell you he was at the forefront of their recruitments. 566 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.480 He was at the forefront of the building of those relationships. He used 567 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.639 every opportunity he could to visit them in person, spend time with them when 568 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.719 they were here, regardless of the context, not just official visits, but 569 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.440 any time that they set foot here, which was you would stand as the 570 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.960 reason. I haven't counted this out, but I would venture to guess that 571 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.199 those guys were here at a higher clip than maybe some guys that don't live 572 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.199 inside the state. So I think it's just the the sorry to use the 573 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.360 cliche, practice what we preach, but it's it's really that simple. And 574 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.559 then spelling out the individual plan for those guys. We don't skimp. We 575 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.000 don't cut corners just because they're in state, don't. We don't take it 576 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:59.519 for granted and just assume that because we reside in a certain area code that 577 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:05.360 they will maybe sacrifice some things to play here so they get the full, 578 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:10.000 the full breadth of our efforts and obviously it's very special in terms of their 579 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.800 ability to represent the states here. So you know, there's some guys and 580 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.320 some people, I should say just guys. There's some people that they get 581 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.760 in front of a microphone or at a presentation or you know, you meet 582 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.000 him personally and you shake their hand and you go, holy hell, I'm 583 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.840 impressed by this guy. Matt Dougherty did that to me today. So he 584 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.679 did this too for that twenty twenty two recruiting class. And so I was 585 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.599 still the sid then, and so Jed told me, hey, Matt's gonna 586 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.800 sit next to him. Like, okay, sounds good. I didn't know 587 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.239 we're gonna do that, but that works. And he had never talked to 588 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.480 media or anything like that. And you know, he sits up there and 589 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.719 he's like, yeah, he knows what he's talking about. He's he knows 590 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.920 exactly what he wants to say. Yeah, and he's really good. Yeah. 591 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.880 And as I was saying, I could imagine getting on the phone with 592 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.440 this guy. You know, I'm being recruited by Arizona and he's the he's 593 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.280 my contact. And every time you talk to him, you're you're impressed, 594 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.639 and and and you feel good about, you know, the people that Jed 595 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.119 Fish has working for. I mean he's worked at Miami, He's worked for 596 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.639 I think Michigan. I think he got to start with the Patriots. So 597 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:24.320 like he's been some places around the block or Tam or two as as has 598 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.440 as has uh Jed so so. But I guess to my point is that 599 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.679 those aren't like he didn't He hasn't only been working at you know, small 600 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.280 schools and Arizona's his first big gig. Like, no, he's been. 601 00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.599 He's been working in big time football exactly exactly. And you can tell, 602 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.480 you can just tell he's not you know, he's not caught up in this 603 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.320 moment or anything like that. He's he's been doing this and and he's good 604 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.800 at it. Again, So anyways, and then those so speaking of the 605 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.519 n Sate recruiting, the what I would you would say is the prize of 606 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.320 this class. But there's always one. You got to pick a guy, 607 00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.679 right you know, Uh it was it was it was Tam mac in twenty 608 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:06.719 twenty two he was the five star guy. It was last year, who's 609 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.039 their five star guy? Last year? There who's the top of the class. 610 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:14.159 Last year, I can't even remember it at this point. If he 611 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.159 was so good, I can't remember his name because I don't remember names. 612 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.920 But anyway, there's always a guy, and in this case it seems to 613 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:24.400 be four star quarterback Demond Williams out of Bashia High School up in Phoenix. 614 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.440 They got the he's one of the best quarterbacks, if not the best quarterback 615 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.599 that's come out of Arizona. Out of Arizona, and he think about all 616 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.559 the great quarterbacks in the Commander. He's got all the stats for that. 617 00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.559 Jedfish spoke highly of him, and then you'll catch at the end of this 618 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:45.119 Jed got some advice from some pretty h prominent people on how good they think 619 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.719 Demond Williams is. Obviously it was talked about at the outset of coach Fish 620 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.079 being hired, but then put into practice, it's just a consistency and he 621 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.079 doesn't throw a lot of incompletions. That's the first thing I would say, 622 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.599 which is an incredible sign of somebody that knows how to play the game of 623 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:07.840 football. He is an elite athleticism in terms of speed. He's flat out 624 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:15.480 fast for a quarterback. He does a great job of taking over a game 625 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.599 at any given moment that you can really put the ball in his hands and 626 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.920 he can win you the game. He took bash You to the first ever 627 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:31.719 state championship. He's a four point zero student both football student and academic student. 628 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.719 He loves the game of football. He fits in what we do. 629 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.280 You know, I once made a comment that you know, you don't want 630 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.239 a football team that when you watch you, you look at your position group 631 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.480 and everybody's kind of all over the place and you don't really know what you're 632 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:52.360 trying to get. You know, our quarterbacks are a certain look when they 633 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:53.920 have a certain skill set, and they have a certain feel, and they 634 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.559 play the game a certain way, and that enables us to game plan for 635 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:05.599 those guys and puts us in position that we can that Demand can now continue 636 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.320 to learn from and grow without having to throw. Well, this will be 637 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:13.079 different for you, Demand, and this will be different for you. You 638 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.159 know, it's not that so everything about Demond. He's the best player in 639 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.519 the state of Arizona. He was the number one ring quarterback in the state 640 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.239 of Arizona. It was a huge deal for us to get him to want 641 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.239 to join our program. His father played college football at Michigan State. His 642 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.840 mom's from Tucson. I mean, this is this is who should come to 643 00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:37.079 Arizona. This is what this is who should be here. And you know, 644 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.440 I had Sean McVay watch his film. I had Josh McDaniels look at 645 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.519 his film, Mike Lombardi look at his film, and all these guys are 646 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.079 just singing this kid's praises and they just know how elite of a player he's 647 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.599 going to be one day. It's pretty good. You know. We again, 648 00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:02.400 we're Arizona and quarterbacks just like that haven't come here historically. When I 649 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.519 mentioned he's the best quarterback, you know, to come out of the state, 650 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.400 I mean best quarterback to come to Arizona. He's the highest rated quarterback 651 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.840 they believed to be to ever come to Arizona. I don't think you've ever 652 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.480 gotten a four star. You know, Andrew Solomon was pretty highly rated and 653 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.119 kind of new might have been a four star kid, but he had and 654 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.920 he had a great freshman year, but never you know, didn't materialize after 655 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.719 that. You know, we talked about uh Nick Foles, who came in 656 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.800 as a transfer, so he wasn't really a high school recruit. They've had 657 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.960 some good ones, but not great ones. Williams is five five eleven one 658 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.920 eighty, which gives you a sense. And he's sort of a maybe a 659 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.519 couple of inches taller, maybe a little sort of in the uh No of 660 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.440 Fafida kind of category to Jade and DeLaura kind of category. And as as 661 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.559 Jed was saying, they get certain kinds of quarterbacks they fit, there's a 662 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.559 certain type of fit that they get, right, That's what I think sticks 663 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.559 out about this guy. Well. And it's a pretty good thing if your 664 00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:04.800 best player in this class as a quarterback, because regardless, the quarterback is 665 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.599 the most important position to get you gotta have a good quarterback and people and 666 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.039 and you know, a lot a lot of times, you know, ratings 667 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.239 are you know overall are basically how did you do it? You know the 668 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.360 key position, right obviously, you know that's what So we'll talk more. 669 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:21.480 But Matt, I know about about about DeMont Williams and what he means to 670 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.760 this program. But a lot of guys, uh you know, some four 671 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:30.079 stars and and and then the key to all of that is that they're keeping 672 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:36.000 guys right. There was an announcement, uh Johnny Nansen announced his press conference 673 00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:42.360 that that uh, the the defensive lineman Bill Norton. Bill Norton is staying, 674 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.440 Uh, he's a guy who could you know, could have gone. 675 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.360 He's the guy came out of you know, transfer here out of Georgia. 676 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.199 Did I mean to me he was the key to the defense, right because 677 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.039 he anchored a defensive line. Well, I would say, Jacob Mane, 678 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:59.920 Well, but that made that made Jacob mond who Jacob mana You Jacob Mineho 679 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:06.320 can't be Jacob Monu without a great defensive line. And historically that's how Arizona 680 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.440 linebackers have gotten. You've been really good. The great linebackers have had great 681 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.480 defensive lines that they've that they've worked with. And that's just the way it 682 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.400 is. The defensive linemen are supposed to get in the way, plug holes 683 00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.119 and create openings for linebackers. So, you know, Jacob mine is really 684 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.679 good because it was a really good defensive line and Bill Norton was the anchor 685 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.800 to that defensive line. Yeah. No, it's usually for him to come 686 00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:34.079 back. I mean, you saw how good the defensive line was this year. 687 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.480 It's been a long time since Arizona has had a line like that like 688 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.119 this yeah, a long time. Well, yeah, you're talking about I 689 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:47.320 mean, you're talking you know, desert swarm time Rob Wall eight. Is 690 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:54.039 that a way when Brooks Treed deandremore playing justin Washington. Well, some of 691 00:48:54.039 --> 00:49:00.599 those stoops lines were incredibly physical. But but again, you know, it's 692 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.480 it's who you keep. You know, when you're looking at the list of 693 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.000 of of players who are transferring from other schools, and the list of list 694 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.440 of guys that have left Arizona is pretty small and not uh, you know, 695 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:17.840 not the incredibly high profile. Let's say Stevie Rocker is about his high 696 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.480 profile a guy because he was came out of CDO thought highly of a got 697 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.000 on the field as a freshman, but hasn't been able to get on the 698 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.840 field. Outside of that, Isaiah Taylor, the the safety who's played some. 699 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.760 But other than that, they're you know, they're backups and young guys 700 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.159 who have left the program, and you know, and you know there are 701 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.880 there are some there got to be schools that I mean, I don't know 702 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.920 everything that goes into it, but like who wouldn't want McMillan, who wouldn't 703 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.719 want Efesians Price sock right right right? Some of those guys to Carrie O 704 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.360 Davis all who wouldn't want Jacob mone One there? You know? I mean 705 00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:00.079 Justin Flows is is here there a game? Nansen talked to me in his 706 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.239 press conference and I'm getting this from the guys who stayed so since I wasn't 707 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.199 there, but that that, uh, Justin Flows getting a lot of run 708 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:15.559 preparing for the ALBUMO Bowl. So I saw guys the other linebacker he ended 709 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:22.280 the portal Moly Moly Daniel. Yeah, yeah, so a couple of guys, 710 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.639 right, But you know, I'll go get into break you news to 711 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:30.000 talk about Florida's recruiting class has been decimated by a bunch of flips, you 712 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.039 know, four or five star guys, and I you know, are you 713 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.960 gonna? Are you hold things together? But you thought you had all these 714 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:42.119 guys recruited and now they've all decided to go somewhere else. It's not anything. 715 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:46.079 It's crazy football recruit just recruiting in general, is it is? It's 716 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.760 insane. It was insane. Before we were talking about you, you knew, 717 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.840 you knew you were friends. Steve and I were trying to have a 718 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:58.599 conversation by how would Dick have handled this? What do you think, what 719 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:00.480 do you have hated it? You've just dealt with it. I don't think 720 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.079 he would have enjoyed it, yeah, too much. It's it's I don't 721 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:10.199 know. You have to recruit. You recruit players to come to your team, 722 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.920 and then you have to keep recruiting the right right their entire career, 723 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.880 their entire career. I'll you know, I'll forever remember what you know. 724 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:24.159 Uh, Danny Dany Hurley just you know, they just won the the West 725 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:30.480 Regional in this press conference last year and he was talking about Dan Hurley from 726 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.239 Yukon and was just talking about how I'm sitting here, We've just won the 727 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.039 region, we're going to the final four, and I'm still having to recruit 728 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:42.280 my guy right now today, I'm recruiting my guys, you know, which 729 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.760 give you a sense of what his postgame speech was. They're like, guys, 730 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.480 you know, we got to stick together kind of thing, and they 731 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.239 have to do that, and it's nuts. All right, we're at the 732 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.079 top of the hour, so we're gonna come back. We're gonna do some 733 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:58.599 breaking news. Uh, we'll follow up on what's going on in the Arizona 734 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:04.360 women's basketball game going so well and then we're gonna have Matt Mordeno for rivals 735 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.840 at goisycats dot com come in and talk to us about the recruiting class that 736 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.559 we've been talking about all afternoon, so be sure to stick around for that 737 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:19.599 breaking news at the top of the hour and we go back. This is 738 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.840 the moment. Tonight is the night will tell