1 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:21,399 What is up, fellow thermonuclear affort, I am Dan Valley coming at you 2 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:25,760 with another Hardware Knock podcast. Before we dive into this, just a quick 3 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,120 reminder to please pretty please a sugar on top, rate reviews, subscribe to 4 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:33,960 us on iTunes, Spotify, wherever you watch listen to your podcasts. Excuse 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,719 me. Also subscribe to us on YouTube if that's where you're watching. Hit 6 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:40,280 that sub button, hit like, comment, help the algorithm, love us 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,920 back as we continue to grow this community. 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The link 15 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,519 to that is in the YouTube and the podcast description, and all of our 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:14,120 social handles TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, those are all in the YouTube and 17 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:18,560 podcast descriptions as well, So follow us there. With that out of the 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,519 way, we get started with I'm gonna go through An article was put up 19 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:26,959 at Bleacher Report byes Greg Swartz about one trade idea for every NBA team. 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,560 It's a little bit. I think it's like a week old now or something, 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,920 but I figured I go through it because we haven't talked trades here a 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,920 lot. It's some mailbag questions on it, but December fifteenth is rapidly approaching, 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,359 and trades are gonna become more of a topic. December fifteenth of the 24 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:42,480 date where most of the players assigned contracts over the offseason could be dealt. 25 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,400 We're about to get into the silly season. I know some people don't really 26 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:48,400 enjoy trades. I really do enjoy them. I enjoy what's happening on the 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,439 court too. I also enjoy the drama. I enjoy a lot about the 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,920 NBA, So I don't We're not going to inundate you with trade content. 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200 But I actually did a trade asset ranking, so I might deliver that on 30 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,959 a podcast, So that content might pick up between now and the middle of 31 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,760 February, but without further ado and I will throw it up on the screen 32 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:09,800 For those who are watching on YouTube, we begin with the Atlanta Hawks and 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,800 the trade here is the Hawks get Jordan are there, get Jordan, Clarkson, 34 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,919 Kelly and Lennock at a twenty twenty five second from Utah for John Collins. 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,759 My god, I'm not even this isn't a shot at Greg. I 36 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:30,439 just can't believe how much John Collins' trade value has fallen. I think dunked 37 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,560 On had been talking about whether the Heat could get Clarkson. I'm not Clarkson 38 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,719 Collins for a first round pick, and Duncan Robinson. I wouldn't do this 39 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,400 if I'm Atlanta. I think that there's still value to be plumbed from Collins 40 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,159 on offense. Just because they're under utilizing him when he's healthy. I know 41 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:47,960 he's injured right now, doesn't mean that they have to view the final you 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,400 know, seventy plus million dollars on his deals and as an albatross, if 43 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,439 this is your best return to expiring contracts in the second round pick. I 44 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:59,039 mean, I know the Hawks are concerned by the luxury tax, but that's 45 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,960 I wouldn't do it. If they home run for Utah, I'd absolutely do 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,719 that. I from Utah. I'm too. Boston. The Celtics get Mike 47 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Muscala for a twenty twenty three second round pick. The Celtics do have a 48 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:15,360 trade exception, so this is possible without sending out any players. I'm fine 49 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,639 with it. I mean, they could use some extra front court depth if 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,840 you're worried about not having Robert Williams a third healthy, or Al Horford holding 51 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:23,800 up, or you just don't want to trust the Blake Griffin minutes it at 52 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400 this point, I definitely don't want to see Muscala, you know, going 53 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:30,560 the dual big route sometimes. Boston likes to do that when Robert Williams the 54 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:32,199 third is healthy. Not so much right now? Yeah, why not? 55 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Oklahoma City? I guess they have enough picks, and they do value Mike 56 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:39,439 Muscala within their locker room. But the twenty twenty three pick is not coming 57 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:43,039 from Boston's coming from Portland, so it's not gonna be like number, you 58 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:47,080 know, fifty eight or something. But I think that's fine for both sides. 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,439 The Brooklyn Nets, oh boy, I see a Kyle Lowry picture Kyle 60 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:57,479 Lowry and Max Strew's for Kyrie Irving. I don't. I just wouldn't do 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,800 this if I'm the Heat. I probably wouldn't do it if I'm Brooklyn. 62 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,919 I there because do you want the last year of Lowry's contract after this struce 63 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,039 would help them, but they have enough snipers with Joe Harris, He's gonna 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,439 rebound. He's had some nice attis, but he's clearly not shooting as well 65 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,479 as he normally does. They have Seth Curry, you have Patty Mills, 66 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,919 you have Kevin Durand, who has been like the best mid ring shooter in 67 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 the game this year. I get the idea of what we need to get 68 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,560 something for Kyri if he's gonna leave, But I don't really like this for 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,199 either side. I think I'd rather just let Kyrie walk than have the extra 70 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,199 year of Lowry, who was great for the locker room. So I guess 71 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,600 you're looking at it from that point. I wouldn't do it if I'm the 72 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Heat. Just the odds of him submarine in your culture. I don't see 73 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,240 how he would get along with a Jimmy Butler type necessarily who probably wants to 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,279 work out after the game, and Kyrie ivering feels like a forever question mark 75 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:46,639 after the game. But if I had to pick a side that would be 76 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:48,600 less inclined to do it, I think it would. I think it would 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,759 be Brooklyn. I don't know what Kyrie Ivery's trade value is. That's part 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,839 of this problem. I just don't think if they're gonna let him walk, 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,360 I think they'd probably prefer flexibility underneath the tax rather than bring in Lowry. 80 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:02,199 But again, maybe I'm wrong. Lowry's played a lot better. He is 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,240 older, and he gives like some defensive tenacity. So I think the Heat 82 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,639 might be more inclined to say no here. The more I talk to myself 83 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:13,759 into it. The Charlotte Hornets, Oh this one looks fun, Charlotte. 84 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Yeah, it's Russell Westbrook, Max Christie and a twenty twenty three second round 85 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,879 pick. The Lakers get Hayward and Mason Plumley. I'm saying no to this 86 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:23,759 if I'm the Lakers, believe it or not. Russ has played a lot 87 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,720 better off the bench, and I don't want Gordon Hayward's you know, thirty 88 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,600 plus million dollars salary next season on my books. I'd rather, you know, 89 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,399 let Russ come off the book. See where this season falls. Going 90 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:35,759 to the summer with cap space, here, even if you started to build 91 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:41,519 stuff around Terry Rozier. He has been for the most part this season shooting, 92 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,439 got awful from the floor after having two really good years in Charlotte as 93 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,399 a shooter. So this is a no for me for the Lakers, I'm 94 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:50,319 the importest just to get out of that. Yeah, Russ is making a 95 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:55,199 shitload right now, but one Max Christie, just like in a second round 96 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,519 pick. I don't even understand why the Lakers are the one's giving up the 97 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,639 pick at this point. So Russ is an expiring deal. It's a lot 98 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,560 of money, and you're acquiring him knowing that you have to keep him. 99 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,920 So buy him out or waive him, or use him. I guess Charlotte 100 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:09,480 might be one of the teams I would actually use him. He's playing better 101 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,279 of late though, and we're already in the season. We're you know, 102 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:14,319 twenty games or whatever, We're a quarter of the way through the season. 103 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:16,079 Like, it's just it's not that long anymore. So I don't think the 104 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,680 cost of getting him him off means as much. If you are the Lakers, 105 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,600 you really like, hey, we're he'd be a good fit. Healthy, 106 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:26,240 He's just never healthy and He's dealing with a semi serious injury right now, 107 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,720 so I wouldn't do it. And the fact that you're keeping all your 108 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:31,480 first like maybe that's sort of tantalizing. You would have to really hope that 109 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,319 gordonhe was gonna get healthy and then stay healthy. The Bulls are they tearing 110 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:45,040 it down? No Jay Crowder for Kobe White and Marco Samanovitch. I don't 111 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,720 know why Phoenix does this, Kobe White hitting restricted free agency. I know 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,160 that they could probably use another shock creator, but you have campaign, Chris 113 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,680 Paul's injured, you have Devin Booker. I just I don't know. I 114 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,279 mean, you get a flyer on Kobe White ahead of restricted for agency, 115 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,399 what are you gonna pay him if he plays well a bunch of money when 116 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:05,319 you have CP three and Devin Booker on the books. This Jay Crowder I 117 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,800 like to fit for Chicago for sure. They do. I feel like they 118 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,360 need like more athletic defenders maybe then than Jay Crowder at this point, but 119 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:15,839 like that would give them and their defense has been better than I think anyone 120 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:18,519 expected, especially with Lonzo ball out. But if you ever have your full 121 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:26,480 cast the players available with Caruso a Lonzo Ball, Javon Day Green and Jay 122 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:29,199 Crowder and this like you could really you could fuck it up and maybe you 123 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:31,000 could go a little bit smaller with like Jay Crowder at the five. Again, 124 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,879 if you're at you're a full strength just because the way DeVante Vonte Green 125 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,480 can defend some fours there as well. I just I don't need to get 126 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,720 something for Crowder. And maybe Kobe White would play like we've seen Dwayne Washington 127 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,439 get minute in Phoenix. I just this doesn't do it for me. But 128 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,879 I guess what else are you gonna get if you're Phoenix? So why not 129 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,800 a young ball handling ball handling guard Chicago? Yeah? Why not? I 130 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,240 guess some people might see that's selling alone in Kobe White, but Jake Crowder 131 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,639 feels more plug and play for them. The Cavs get Matthew Vedova, the 132 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,199 return for the King's getting Dylan Windler. Yeah what I mean, what the 133 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:05,680 hell? If you don't like if you are you out on Dylan Winner? 134 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 That looks awfully like selling low. But to bring Deli back the vibes in 135 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,040 the locker room on a team that's really good, maybe just a buffer in 136 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 case you don't know what's gonna happen with Ricky Rubio later in the year. 137 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,240 And look, Sacramento is just breeding shooters at this point. So if like 138 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:22,199 Dylan Windler goes to Sacramento and like he's getting all of a sudden play and 139 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:28,639 he's been dealing with injuries upon injuries upon injuries for like his entire career. 140 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:33,600 As Greg noted, this does save Cleveland some two point two million dollars will 141 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:35,720 bring you a fan favor. I think that's what it's about. Yeah, 142 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:37,919 why why not if you're willing to just take the be like, Okay, 143 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:39,960 like Dylan Windler, we're out on him. I'm fine. And Sacramento I 144 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,759 don't know why they need the flyer on shooting, but they're fun as hell. 145 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:48,120 Dallas Yaka Purdle for Josh Green Javal McGee in twenty twenty five Secon round 146 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,879 pick that judge val McGee contracts past off season was fucking awful. I don't 147 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:56,000 know what Dallas was thinking. What I do it? If I'm Dallas, 148 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,919 you know, I don't know. I mean, Yaka Peartle's a really good 149 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,759 fit. He does sort of crimp your spacing. He's a good screen center, 150 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:07,440 can make plays from the elbows. Fantastic rim protector, but he's not 151 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,360 really like this great lob threat. Can still roll to the basket and stuff, 152 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:15,480 but he's entering free agency. Josh Green's played really well. He's gotten 153 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,639 a lot of rotation minutes this year. He's so late into his contract, 154 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,000 though he doesn't have the same equivalent value as a first round pick. If 155 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,399 you're that interested in getting off of Javal McGhee's salary, because he has the 156 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,440 two years left on his deal after this one. They gave him a player 157 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,519 option for some reason, maybe you consider it. If I'm the Spurs, 158 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:35,679 I probably just do it to get the flyer on Josh Green. But also 159 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,759 like this isn't enough. Jaka Purtle feels like he might be worth a low 160 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:45,039 end first and I guess you're getting that between Green and the twenty five second, 161 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,639 but you're also eating McGee's salary. I don't really I guess it doesn't 162 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,559 matter for the Spurs, but you have to like Josh Green. I think 163 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,919 the thing with that is he's already like it's almost time for him to get 164 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,759 paid again. He's on the books for four point eight million dollars next year, 165 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,480 and these are a stracted free agent, so maybe you consider it. 166 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,200 It's one of the ones. I don't love this for either side, but 167 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Dallas is getting the clear best player in the deal, still as good as 168 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:11,120 Josh Green has been for them. I just don't know, like Yaka Peurtle 169 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:16,279 becomes this sort of crunch time liability because it's free throw shooting and you have 170 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,080 Christian Wood, and then both of them are going into free agency. So 171 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:24,480 I probably wouldn't do this if I'm either team the Denver Nuggets Yaka Peardle and 172 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,559 Denver all Right, Dever Nuggets Yaka Peartle, Christian Brown, Zeke Naji, 173 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Jeff Green. This is spicy. I like it. Jacca Peardle all of 174 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,519 a sudden, you're backup five, A waste of his talents, but an 175 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,639 upgrade over DeAndre Jorge, who's not been the primary problem in Denver. But 176 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Yaka Peardle's both a rim protector and a playmaker, beefs up some of the 177 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,519 bench units that have given you issues. You don't need him for crunch time 178 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,559 if you're Denver. They touted Zeke Naji a lot heading into this season, 179 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,159 and they have not been using him consistently. I do think they're losing some 180 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:58,200 value here in Jeff Green and then like Christian Brown getting rid of him so 181 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,080 early. But if you were all in on this season, I don't like 182 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:05,600 the idea of using probably two of your best trade chips. I would say 183 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:09,720 on addressing the center position, can we get DeAndre Jordan out of here as 184 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,240 well as part of this deal? Like do you really want him on the 185 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,399 roster with Yaka Peardle and and Nicole Yokich? It just it seems like a 186 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,600 little bit of waste because come playoff time, you know Yokich is going to 187 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,399 play like around forty minutes. Is the Yaka Peurdle's role becomes like this eight 188 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:28,960 minute role If you get to a point where you were doing this trade and 189 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,960 you could money wise, but you're not gonna be up Naji Brown and Jeff 190 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Green Brown not yeah and Jeff Green. Those were three players involved, Like 191 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:39,960 I might consider it. They just don't have like when you look at their 192 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:45,200 salaries, the Nuggets aren't built to do anything other than like monster blockbuster deals 193 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,759 at this point because of how important almost every player is, Like you have 194 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,600 is Schmidt's salary here, like you could shoe worn that in instead of you 195 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,360 know, can you keep Jeff Green? Can you keep Christian Brown? I 196 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,080 don't know if you. But again, the Spurs valuing Peardle, so I 197 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,279 do like the idea of Brown and Naji and even Jeff Green a little bit 198 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,159 in San Antonio. So I might do this from them, but they don't 199 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,559 want to pay Pertle. But I do think that Christian Browns is closer. 200 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,679 They're gonna get with it, but they would probably prefer a raw first round 201 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,799 pick for Pertle, if not the opportunity to resign him just because he doesn't 202 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:18,840 fuck up your you rebuild the Pistons, the Luconard return Luconard to the Pistons 203 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:24,720 for No. One's Noel and Corey Joseph Uh, I don't know that. 204 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:28,120 I like. I guess like having more size in La behind Zubos if you 205 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,879 don't want to roll with like a Batumb or Covington who's playing again or no 206 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:37,519 but you know what, they have diabates there like that. I probably wouldn't 207 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:41,440 do this for either team just because Dubos is already there. So how many 208 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,360 minutes is Noell even gonna play? He can be really defensive, disruptive, 209 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,440 He's not even playing for Detroit that much. Right now, I guess Corey 210 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,200 Joseph brings sort of another veteran ball handler, but you have Wall and Reggie 211 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:54,200 Jackson. If you don't think Kawai PG, you're gonna be healthy. I 212 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,279 get the logic here. You get out from lucon Art's contract, which isn't 213 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,600 great, and then the Troit aside from getting a former player, they do 214 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,919 get someone who, when he's healthy, should really be able to sling it. 215 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,639 But like, wouldn't you rather? I would rather have Noel and Joseph 216 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:15,919 come off the books than have Lukenard for another year in fifteen point four. 217 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,039 That final year is the team option, so I wouldn't do this if I'm 218 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Detroit. I don't think as much as they could use even some more shooting, 219 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,159 but their defense is like also not put together either. I think opening 220 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:31,039 the floor up is important. I just don't love this for either team, 221 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,679 and I get the logic from it for LA's perspective though. Golden State, 222 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,399 Oh, I'm gonna love this one. Golden State Wendell Carter Junior and then 223 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,480 the magic at Wiseman and Jonathan Cominga. Jonathan Comingga is such an Orlando magic 224 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:52,159 front office player. I just look, you have ballball, you have Palle 225 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Bank Harrow. Excuse me, you have mo Bamba there. I just like, 226 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,759 do you want James Wiseman a object in addition to Jonathan Isaac? Is 227 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:05,559 he ever gonna play again? Jonathan Cominga, I mean Jonathan Comingo alone, 228 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,559 Like maybe it makes you think about it, but Wendel Carter Junior is really 229 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,039 good. He would be a fantastic fit for the Dubs. He could play 230 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,000 with Draymond Green. It does kind of like squeeze, come on Luny out 231 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:18,120 of minutes and do you trust come on Ludy Moore in the playoffs. I 232 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,039 like this for a golden state, though, Like Wendel Carter Junior gives you 233 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,159 some stretch too, and I would do it if it's on the table. 234 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Just because Wiseman's value has fallen so low. I just don't know to have 235 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Wiseman Cominga, Jonathan Isaac, Bull Bull, and Palabank Caro on the same 236 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,360 team if you just want to like say, all right, it's Mobaba, 237 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,320 but like he doesn't need to factor into the equation, like and even like 238 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Mobaba has not been after like a really really really bad start, like he 239 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,840 picked it up a little bit for Orlando too, So yeah, I don't 240 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:50,240 this is just overkill. I think the Magic would need more if you include 241 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,200 a future first maybe, but like Wendel Carter Jier might be part of their 242 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:56,480 their core, and like he's not super old, he's twenty three. So 243 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,840 if I'm the Magic, I'm not doing this. I've not seen enough from 244 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:03,799 James Wiseman, and I haven't watched it to be clear, but there are 245 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,279 people that are not happy with his G League performance. The Rockets, they 246 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,200 get Josh Green and Davis Berton's for Eric Gordon at one hundred percent to do 247 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,639 this from Dallas, Eric gor will be perfect for them. Room pressure at 248 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:18,159 threes. You can get away playing him defensively with Spencer Diberty and Luca Dots 249 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,120 together too. Like that's a lineup that that could work. Would you do 250 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:28,200 it if you're Houston Davis Perton's, if it was Josh Green and expiring salary, 251 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,120 I would consider it, just because at this point, I don't think 252 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,799 you're gonna get a first round pick for Eric Gordon and it'll probably be like 253 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,559 number thirty or something. Yeah, you would prefer that, but I don't 254 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:41,720 think like that ship may have sailed. He's in his age thirty three season, 255 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:43,320 and he's in the final year of his contract unless you win a title. 256 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:50,120 But I don't just Davias Perton's salary is you're not gonna play him if 257 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,480 you're Houston anyway. But he has another year and seventeen million left on top 258 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,120 of Oh no, it's two years and thirty three million left on his deal. 259 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Excuse me, you need to include something else in here. I don't 260 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,240 think I think that's Josh Green's not enough to get off Berton's money. If 261 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:07,720 it is, I know he's played well, but I would go with Eric 262 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,639 Gordon just he would help this Mavericks team way more. In the immediate the 263 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:18,559 Indiana Pacers get John Collins for Buddy Healed and Jalen Smith. How low has 264 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:23,159 John Collins' value fallen? My god, I wouldn't do this. If I'm 265 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,360 Atlanta. You have Bogdanovitch back, so I don't think you really need Healed 266 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:30,320 as much, and Jalen Smith can play a lot of the John Collins role. 267 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:36,200 But I just, oh, my god, man, you're really this 268 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:37,919 is just this is all banking on the fact and I'm not even saying it's 269 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:41,120 wrong that Atlanta is just worried about paying attacks long term for its core. 270 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,200 You're extended click cappella. Trey Young's on his mega deal. You extended DeAndre 271 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,639 Hunter, you Jean Day Murray, you have to start thinking about his next 272 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:52,600 contract. No, And I also like, do we want like any reason 273 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:57,360 for like you've healed in Bogdanovitch back and they're not really neither of those guys 274 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,440 or threes, But I guess you have Murray and Trey and then AJ Griffin's 275 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,400 also sort of there. I don't there. I this is just it would 276 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:10,200 if you're gonna dump Collins, like, do it for expiring money rather than 277 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,920 two guys who have multi years left on their deal. I cannot believe. 278 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,519 How I guess I am way higher on John Collins than the consensus than I 279 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:22,920 thought. The Clippers they receive Miles Turner love it to the Pacers for Lucannard, 280 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,680 Jason Preston two twenty four second round picks. Absolutely not. If I'm 281 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,359 Indiana, you need the Clippers twenty and twenty nine first round pick which they 282 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,039 can move, and if they're willing to give that up, look, I 283 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,680 consider it. John Hollinger of The Athletic brought up that they could just the 284 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,680 Pacers could renegotiate an extent Turner's contract, and what that means is you bump 285 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,440 up his salary immediately for this season because they have cap space, and then 286 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,839 you could scale down from there if he wants to stick around, or you 287 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,440 view him as more of a trade asset if he's on long term deal and 288 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:53,160 you could pay him up to like thirty something million dollars, like up to 289 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,519 his max this year. And so that's why he would do it, to 290 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:00,359 just assure himself that type of money. I think that maybe that's on the 291 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,720 table, but like to get Luke Kennard and Jason Like, yeah, if 292 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,839 it's the twenty twenty nine Clippers pick that team, I wouldn't bet on them 293 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:11,119 being good at this point, Like they just seem fragile right now, So 294 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:15,039 that would make me consider it. But I'm not I'm not doing this. 295 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,079 If if I'm Indiana, Uh, no way. You have to get at 296 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,359 least one of the Lakers first round picks for Miles Turner if you were gonna 297 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,559 settle the Lakers Garrison Matthews and Boban Marianovitch for Kendrick Nonn in a two thousand 298 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,400 and three second round, twenty three second round pick. This is creative. 299 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,279 Garrison Matthews playing time and consistent again with Houston, but he can really sling 300 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:36,480 it, and the Lakers need guys who could sling it. If you can 301 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,759 get him going off movement, which is sometimes not something the Lakers will do 302 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,599 or Lebron teams will do, he can become kind of pointless. But I 303 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,000 like it. I'm fine with it. Boban, I don't. I don't 304 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:52,640 think he would play. I mean, they're not playing their other backup lives 305 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,440 anyway, so like does he play over Damien Jones or Thomas Bryan. I 306 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,240 don't know. I would do this if I'm Houston too, Like, you 307 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:02,039 don't need another guard and Kendrick Nobody comes off the books. You're picking up 308 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:04,920 a second round pick. Maybe if you Garrison Matthews just as more valuable though, 309 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,319 as someone who can really give you a ton of volume from three if 310 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:11,920 you want to dust him off. But I think that's fine for both teams. 311 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,279 Memphis Gary Harris to Memphis for twenty twenty three second round, picking Danny 312 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,839 Green. I don't know, I understand why Memphis does this without question. 313 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,720 I don't know why Orlando does this. It seems like they trade resigned excuse 314 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:32,920 me, Gary Harris to the two year, twenty six million dollars deal so 315 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,599 that if they wanted to, they could trade him for actual value. You're 316 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,519 not You're just getting a second round pick from Nanny Green coming off the torn 317 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,519 ACL. He's not going to stick around long term, and you have the 318 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,119 ability to wave Harris with no cost to you after this season. I need 319 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,599 a little bit more if I'm more Orlando, and I know that you know 320 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Gary Harris has been I'm gonna double check that too. Yeah, so I'm 321 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,119 right on this contract. I think he's just waving for whatever. And I 322 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,880 know Gary Harris has just been injured all year. He's played in six games. 323 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,519 But I'd rather roll the dice and see what he is later in the 324 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,799 season and have the option of keeping him to in the next year if if 325 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:10,559 they expect the team to be a lot better. So I'm not saying they 326 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:14,079 would need a first round pick, but like Memphis has got, would include 327 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,000 something like is it Exavier Tilment in there. I don't even think Orlando would 328 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,079 have a you know, like a soft spot for him given the makeup of 329 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,839 their roster. So and then who are you giving up after that? And 330 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,880 I wouldn't give up at first. I want to make that clear. So 331 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 this feels like a really tough trade part. I'm not giving up Santi Aldama 332 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:32,920 for him, certainly not Brandon Clarker's that you're Williams, So like, can 333 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,559 you sweeten it with like another second round pick? Does that get it done? 334 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,839 Maybe something close related to the trade inline, But if i'd the magic, 335 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,839 I'm it's a pass for me. Miami. Oh boy, I see 336 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:48,680 DA was produced. Wow, this is such a depressing trade. Dallas Burton's 337 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,000 for Duncan Robinson. You know, I get the logic when you had Reggie 338 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:59,599 Bullock and Tim Hardway's junior just missing all their threes. Yeah, I totally 339 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,359 under that. But you're taking on an extra year of Duncan Robinson's deal because 340 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,400 he has three left after this one, versus Berton's who just has two. 341 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,240 So I get it from Miami. He could play next to Bam and that's 342 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,480 just someone who gives you a starting four. He's not gonna give you anything 343 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,880 on defense. But Miami is a team that could afford it. Dallas though, 344 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,240 would have to I'm struggling to see the logic. I guess you would 345 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,880 have to really just want to make sure you have enough wing shooting. And 346 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,119 I think you can look at it like Duncan Robinson is not even cheaper on 347 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,799 a per year basis, so they would have to get something else within this, 348 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:34,279 and you're only like sort of straining your books even further. Be a 349 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,279 no for Dallas. But I like the target for Miami. If you're getting 350 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:44,319 off Duncan Robinson's deal, the Bucks get Kendrick Williams for mar John bow Champ. 351 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Wow. Wow, this is my inclination, is that Milwaukee should say 352 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,759 no. But like you're so invested in the now, and I know you'd 353 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,359 probably want to seem what Joe Ingles looks like when he comes back, and 354 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Chris Middleton just came back. But if Kenn Colians is on the table, 355 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,359 he's like the perfect a perfect fit for this roster. You could use them 356 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,559 in all different sorts of lineups. And he's just not going to be as 357 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:08,359 green as mar John brow Champ, who is like kind of a thunder type 358 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,759 player. I mean, he's been like a little slower on ball than I 359 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:15,119 thought, but he's really gotten a feel and this is dating back to Summer 360 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,079 League two, like he knows kind of where to be when he's running in 361 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,759 transition. He's made some defensive plays. But I guess I'd like it for 362 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,640 both side. Would I do it if I'm Milwaukee? I would probably do 363 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,839 it if I'm Okay, See, kender Simi is just such a good player 364 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:30,640 to have. And maybe you're looking as well, how are you gonna find 365 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,559 playing time for mar John bow Champ. We have Jim Williams there, and 366 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:37,079 we have lou Dord, and we have Jeremiah Robinson, Earl and Darius basically 367 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,359 still floating around and so on and so forth. They have to start tightening 368 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,720 some things up. Anyway, I think it's it's a thinker for both teams. 369 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,000 I don't know that it's a no brainer yes for either one. But 370 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:52,039 Kendrick Williams on the Bucks makes a lot of sense. But I'm also very 371 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,559 high on mar John bow Champ the Minnesota Timberwolves. They get Alec Burks for 372 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,279 Torrian Prince and Wendel Moore Junior. I am probably jumping on this if I'm 373 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,240 Detroit just to get another wing in Wendol Moore Junior to evaluate long term. 374 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:11,119 I'm less inclined to do it if I'm Detroit, excuse me, Minnesota, 375 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,839 just because Torrian Prince has become pretty critical to this team, especially given the 376 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,640 knthy Town's injury. This was I think this trade was pre karnthy Town's injury 377 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,599 though, and then also just like to give up on Wendell Moore junior already 378 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:27,400 for Burkes, who's an expiring contract, and you have Jordan McLaughlin. McLaughlin 379 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,960 and Jail and Noel and De'angelo Russell. The trade to me seems like you 380 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,039 need to do a bigger one where DeAngelo Russell would be involved. And Russell, 381 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:37,359 by the way, is playing better of late, so like that would 382 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,920 be something to consider as well. I do understand the lodge or just have 383 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,680 another shot and like, look another it's not just Outbursts's secondary shot creation, 384 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:51,400 excuse me, but he's also shooting, which the Timberwolves need this season. 385 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,079 Like even Deangel Russell when he's picked up has been like now, he's been 386 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,480 under thirty five percent from three over the last ten games, but he's been 387 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,559 super efficient inside the arc. So I I wouldn't do this. I think 388 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,640 it's a bridge too far for Minnesota, but Alc Burks would be like a 389 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,000 fantastic fit for them if he doesn't cost you what would be the equivalent of 390 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,839 just a rookie who I don't know what he comes in, but you just 391 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,319 he was just taking number twenty six in the draft. So I would need 392 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 to give like a little bit less if I'm Minnesota for this, and especially 393 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:22,880 like Toorian Prince Matters to that team. Uh So, yeah, the Pelicans, 394 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,440 they get Mobamba for Jackson Hayes Garret Temple in a twenty twenty four second 395 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720 round pick. I would do this from both sides. I get, well, 396 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,400 the Magic don't need Jackson Hayes is the thing, like you're getting sort 397 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440 of a higher end flyer and someone who might fit like if you want someone's 398 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,880 gonna like a bigger guy's gonna switch a bunch on defense, could try that 399 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,279 out, and then you're getting a second round pick. I like Obama in 400 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,119 New Orleans for sure, just is a floor spacing rim protector to stick alongside 401 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:53,200 Zion and Jackson Hayes's role has just not really been sturdy this year, so 402 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,319 I like it for New Orleans. But I just I think if you're Orlando, 403 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,640 Mobama's the better fit it on offense, So I don't know why, 404 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,359 Like, there's no clear path to playing time for Jackson Hayes with Wendell Carter 405 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,279 Junior and a healthy Palo Bank Caro, and then if John Than Isaac comes 406 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,720 back, that's even harder for them to do that. So I was probably 407 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:18,400 a no for Orlando, but I like Mobamba in New Orleans, that's for 408 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,839 sure. The Knicks Reggie Bullock and Davis Purton's from Dallas for Derrick Rose and 409 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:29,720 Evan Fournier. I don't know what to make of this trade. Derrick Rose 410 00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:33,599 is not being good this year. You're also getting off really bad money in 411 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,279 Fourier. Berton's is more left on his deal. So this is the worst 412 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:40,400 contract. Two years and thirty three million. That's the worst contract involved in 413 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,440 this. The Knicks are getting more wing help in Reggie Bullock. You have 414 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,440 him, Cam Reddish and then RJ. Barrett and Quentin Gronge. You could 415 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,039 probably make some interesting small ball lineups that Tom Thibodeau will never use. That'd 416 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:52,680 beat that'd be fun. You get off a four days table like I said, 417 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,839 you're taking on Burton's money, and so it's Tim's gonna play him instead 418 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,839 of Obi Toppin. At this point, Julius Randalls still sitting there, and 419 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,920 I have Hartenstein and Mitchell Robinson and Jericho Simm's just too many bigs already. 420 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,400 I don't like this for either side. I like Bullocks fit in New York, 421 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,160 but like they need to evaluate their kids on the wings anyway, and 422 00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:14,359 eating what's left of Breton's salary doesn't do it for me. I don't even 423 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,880 know that I love it for Dallas. Four Yer and Rose would give them 424 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,039 a lot of what they need, but you have to believe that one like 425 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,559 Rose is gonna get the field for his game back. Fourier would be a 426 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,240 fine fit, like he's not. You're trading a you know, someone who's 427 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,400 a valuable defender tea for you in Bullock to then get back a liability in 428 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,039 four ye you're getting real liability and Bretons, but like that's not someone you're 429 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,480 lying on anyway. I just I don't love it for either side. I 430 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,759 think I like it the least for the Knicks. I might, yeah, 431 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,039 just because if I'm Dallas, I'd like to get off of Breton's contract sooner 432 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,960 put the Bullocks a pretty steep opportunity costs. He's notoriously started slow, so 433 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,839 maybe they wouldn't like that either. Okay, See, they get James Wiseman 434 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,119 okay, and Golden Steak gets Kendrick Williams a twenty twenty three second round pick 435 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,759 for Miami or Dallas. Look, if I'm if I'm going to stay it, 436 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,400 I do it. I might do this for both sides. Just the 437 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,440 okay, see takes the huge flyer on Wiseman? Can he play with Chet? 438 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,599 Just because Chet spaces the floor and you just go super big upfront. 439 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:18,480 I don't know I would take the flyer if I'm okay, see, I 440 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,519 just are you willing to sell that low if you're if you're the Warriors on 441 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,119 James Wiseman, because like this is what this is what we're talking about with 442 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,839 James Wiseman trades Like it's not you know, it's James Wiseman for Kelly Olenick, 443 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,440 like those types of deals that are out there, So like that's what 444 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:40,599 that is what you're talking about. He does fit into okay, Cy's trade 445 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,359 exception from the Derrick Favors deal. I would do it for both sides. 446 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,079 I'm in love with Kendrick Williams. It's selling low on James Wiseman. What 447 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:48,559 do you want for him at this point, he's sitting in the G League. 448 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,960 I don't know if you know. I wonder if Okay C would do 449 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 this. Like they're the team that the Golden State probably says no too because 450 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,880 the equity. They haven't Wishman, but they're the team like on the Core 451 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,319 that might say no just because you have chet Home Grint waiting in the wings. 452 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:08,200 The Orlando Magic receive a twenty twenty seven first round pick and Russell Westbroke 453 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,680 from the Lakers, and the Lakers get Gary Harris, Terrence Roth, and 454 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:19,799 Jonathan Isaac. Wholely shit, I think I might like this deal. Just 455 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,079 Russ isn't good at play in Orlando, although they've had like a bunch of 456 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,119 guard injuries, so you could try it out if you wanted to. Terrence 457 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,599 Ross probably leaves after this season, and then Gary Harris. You're giving up 458 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 on the season of control that you have of him. It really comes down 459 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,519 to, like, what do you think Jonathan Isaac is going to be and 460 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:44,200 you've safeguarded yourself now against disaster because of the way his deal is set up 461 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,920 seven point six million guaranteed next season and then it becomes fully non guaranteed in 462 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000 the final year. I might do this if I'm just to take the flyer. 463 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,359 Look, you get Ross and Harris, Like those guys are rotation players 464 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,559 stream when they're healthy, which Harris Harris is not at this point. So 465 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,680 this is a thinker. I'm if I'm the Lakers, there's probably more risk, 466 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,519 like if I'm the Magic just because I'm dealing with it. Seemed like 467 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:14,119 so many transient players here. At some point, It's like, all right, 468 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Jonathan Isaac is twenty five, but like he hasn't played in over two 469 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,480 seasons. At this point, you have to play this season. We're coming 470 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,680 from a bunch of leg injuries. The Lakers are the ones that are taking 471 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,200 on more risk here. I think it's the Lakers that say no to this. 472 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,119 But imagine Jonathan Isaac and Anthony Davis the same front Corse Jonathan Isaac was 473 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,480 healthy. I can't imagine it because I can't imagine Jonathan Isaac healthy at this 474 00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:41,559 point. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers get John Collins and Bogda mcdonovich for Tobias 475 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:47,240 Harris, Matist Tybo and Shake Milton. Okay, so we're just like we're 476 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:51,720 straight up just viewing. Shake Milton has been bawling, and you know, 477 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:53,359 Atlanta's defense has been fine. If you want, like want to take the 478 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,880 flyer, I'm Matisse, Tybo. Tobias Harris a good score. He's probably 479 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,359 more of a natural fit given role that he plays, then Collins would be. 480 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,519 If you stashed toubaias Harris at the four. He only has one year 481 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,400 left on his deal versus three for This is just a straight up dump. 482 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,640 It's Atlanta saying, hey, we don't want the three guarantee years of John 483 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Collins' money on our books after this, And like, I just I'm just 484 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,400 stunned. Is it four guarantee years? It's four for No, No, 485 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,920 it's three, it's three. I didn't look at my salary sheets. Let's 486 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,799 say, yeah, so John Collins has three guarantee years left at like over 487 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,119 seventy five million dollars. That's just them saying, hey, macdonovitch is going 488 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,079 to decline his player option even though he was injured for much of this season, 489 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,759 so we view him as a temporary player because we can't pay him and 490 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,839 we don't want to pay Collins, so we're gonna take on Toubaias Harris in 491 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:45,920 the final year of his deal just to get off of the you know, 492 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:51,480 the two extra ones after that of Collins. Is I do this if I'm 493 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:56,839 Philly? Probably, even though Tobaias Harris has started playing, well, do 494 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,799 I do this something Philly? Shakemil has been really good lately. He would 495 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,079 help the Hawks a time. Yeah, Bonnamdonovitch alone will be a huge help 496 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,480 for for Philly. I probably do this from Philly. But if I'm Atlanta, 497 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,079 I need like some type of pick in here. And if these are 498 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,799 the offers for John Collins, mine what happened to my guy? Who? 499 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Phoenix Suns get Tobias Harris, Paul Reed and Jaden Springer for Jay Crowder, 500 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:25,480 Landry Shaman, Dario sarch and Tory Craig. That's a no for Phoenix. 501 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,480 If I'm Yeah, that's a big no from Phoenix because I guess the Sixers 502 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,640 have to take on They're getting a bunch of expirings or Jay Crowder who helps 503 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,640 them. He'll definitely shoot more than PJ. Tucker, will They have to 504 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,599 take on Landry Shamman, who has a year left on his deal that's guaranteed 505 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:48,240 at like ten point three million, so that's really nothing. And then we're 506 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,319 giving Tobias Harris. Will really work though in Phoenix, But are you do 507 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,599 you want to pay Tobias Harris when you have you know, let's look at 508 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,759 this next season. You have Devin Booker at thirty six, DeAndre and at 509 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:06,279 thirty two point five, Chris Paul half guaranteed at thirty point eight, so 510 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,359 thirty point eight million, mcal Bridges at twenty seven, twenty one point seven 511 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:14,319 million, and then you're gonna add Tobias Harris the final year of his deal, 512 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,880 but it's thirty nine point three. I'd be shocked if they're willing to 513 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,240 pay that. I do like to Bias in Phoenix though, for what they 514 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,559 could use. I just are you willing to pay that money? Tory Craig 515 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:28,039 has become weirdly important for them, and so it was there a way to 516 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,599 do this deal without including him or Damian Lee. We can look at that. 517 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:37,880 So and they don't really need Paul Reid with Bismuth Byambo and Jacque Landale 518 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,319 and even Ishwayne right there, So it's probably a no for Phoenix, but 519 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,720 I do like to bias Harris in Phoenix only enough. It's just that number. 520 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,599 I can't picture the Sun's doing. The Portland Trailblazers get Isaiah Stewart and 521 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,599 Ronnie McGruder in exchange for Keyon Johnson Justice Swinson at a twenty twenty four second 522 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,480 round pick. This feels like an overpay for It's not overpay because Isaiah Stewart's 523 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,799 really good and imposing on the front line, but like Detroit's getting a lot 524 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,839 for Issaiah Stewart here, that's twenty twenty four second it's the more favorable of 525 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,440 Charlotte' or Minnesota's. Charlotte is probably gonna suck, if we're being honest. 526 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Plus key On Johnson, you can jump out of a gym, but what 527 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,920 is he Justice's Winslows had some really awkward moments offensively this year, but he's 528 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,599 played some small ball five on defense and held up. I think you could 529 00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:29,680 talk yourself into it for either side. I do think that Detroit, having 530 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,519 more immediate aspirations beyond this season, would prefer to have Isaiah Stewart. I 531 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,519 don't know what to make of their front court, to be honest, they 532 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,440 have Jail and Duran there, they have Marvin Bagley. The third there Nurzawells. 533 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,480 I'm gonna be there long. So there is like sort of a glut 534 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,400 with Isaiah Stewart and those other two in Jail Duran and Marvin Bagley. But 535 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,759 I like, I kind of like this for both sides, just like if 536 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480 I, well, no, because what is what are the Pistons really getting 537 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,759 for Frisia Stewart, Like they would have to like key On Johnson or Justice's 538 00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:01,680 wins Low, and then that second round pick is useful. So if you 539 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,559 think that Jesse Swindle is going to provide actual value to your team, but 540 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,440 like you can't carve out minutes for him as the small ball four five. 541 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,000 But then I guess if you play him with Marvin Bagley up front, like 542 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,519 a allows Bagley to sort of play his natural position on offense whatever he's better 543 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:21,719 suited too. But also because Jesse Winsl's not space in the floor, Bagley's 544 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,280 been okay as a as a stretch this year. I'm on the fence. 545 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,920 I like it for Portland, just been to beef up the backup five minutes 546 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,320 of beefste is really imposing with his defense in a half court. So I 547 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,559 would do it from Portland, I'm not sure if i'd do it if I'm 548 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:42,880 Detroit. Sacramento they get Reggie Bullock and Javal McGee from the Mavericks for Rashawn 549 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,480 Holmes and Trey Lyles. Yeah, okay, yeah, Trey Lyles might be 550 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,079 like two valuable for this trade. And Javal McGee, I mean, I 551 00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:52,840 guess he deftly could play in Sacramento, but like Rashaun Holmes not playing in 552 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,199 Sacramento, he should play. I still think he should play. Used to 553 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,159 be like the push shot extraordinaire. Dallas could certainly use him. They're getting 554 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:05,719 off of JaVale McGee here the Keys are getting bullocked, and like they could 555 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,599 still use help on the wings. I like this for Sacramento because you're part 556 00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:14,639 laying two bigs and you have some bonus. You have met two so like 557 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,360 you have you have options up front and you can break out JaVale McGee in 558 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,880 case of emergency if you really want to. So, but giving up Trey 559 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,880 Lyles, like he's had some really interesting minutes this year, but you already 560 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,159 have like Harrison Barnes, Keck and Merris. You can get your four spot 561 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,639 done. Bullock plays it, can play a lot of three of Kevin Hurry 562 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,559 there. I think I do this if I'm both teams, because at this 563 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,440 point you've torpedoed Rashaun Holmes's value doesn't even seem like he's a value contract anymore. 564 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,079 Maybe you don't want to take on Javal McGee's money, but he comes 565 00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:45,920 cheaper on a per year basis, then Rashawn Holmes. Rashaun Holmes is better. 566 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,400 I don't know how much it matters if you're not playing either of them. 567 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,800 I think I would do it. You have to trust that Reggie Bullock 568 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,480 will continue to get off to you know that he'll like hit his threes as 569 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,199 the year goes on. I would probably do it if I'm Sacramento, and 570 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,119 I would definitely do it if I'm Dallas. At this point you are kind 571 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:07,280 of sacrificing some wing depth here. But if you but you also I keep 572 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,239 fretting Christian Woods on this roster, It's like, would I do it if 573 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,039 I'm Dallas? I don't know you're getting off at r Val McGee and Rashaun 574 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,519 Holmes is certainly an upgrade. Is he better than Dwight Powell or Maxi Kleiba 575 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:23,400 debatable, Like both those players have been better now because they're actually play and 576 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,039 then you have Christian Woods, So is he still the fourth best big on 577 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,480 your roster? So I kind of like it more. For Sacramento, I 578 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,599 need Dallas, which is weird because I'm a huge Rashaun Holmes guy when it 579 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:37,519 comes to the way he plays basketball. The Spurs get Kobe White and Derrick 580 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,000 Jones Junior for Josh Richardson from Chicago. Yeah, I do it. I'm 581 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,039 fine with this for both sides because give San Antonio someone who could create and 582 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,960 half court. Maybe not necessarily for others, but Kobe White's gonna get shots 583 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:51,119 up. Derrick Jones Junior could be athletic, play a lot of defense for 584 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,760 you. Josh Richardson I think is a really good fit. Not necessarily. 585 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,840 I'm talking about how chicagoan. He's more athletic defenders. They also need shooting, 586 00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,840 and Josh Richardson can do that. He's shooting I think like close to 587 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,800 forty percent on spot up threes this year. I would do it. Maybe 588 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000 it's selling alone Kobe White, but they're probably not going to pay him in 589 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:07,280 restricted free agency anyway. I don't know if they let him walk, but 590 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,679 I just don't think he's gonna command a ton of money. I like this 591 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,960 one. I think the Bulls could really use Josh Jursinson. And why not 592 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,639 take a flyer on Kobe White if you're San Antonio the Raptors another Josh Richston 593 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,599 destination. The Raptors get Josh Richardson and the Spurs get Mal Kai Flynn, 594 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,480 kem Birch, DJ Wilson. In two seconds, I do this on Toronto. 595 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:27,599 Just Josh Hrichston probably doesn't give you enough dribbling or shot creation in the 596 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,119 half court. His shot selection is better than Gary Trent juniors, though, 597 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:35,159 just to give you sort of another option to space the floor. If this 598 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,800 is the cost, if this is the opportunity costs, I'm doing it. 599 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,440 If I'm San Antonio, do I want more? I wouldn't mind testing out 600 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,440 Mal Kai Flynn in San Antonio, And like maybe even Ken Birch gets some 601 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,559 run because their backup five is all sorts of weird. I'm gonna say in 602 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,480 two seconds, I'm gonna say tentative yes for both sides. I'd like it. 603 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,400 For both sides. Just there's a lot of flyers involved here for san 604 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,519 Antonio, which feels like spare parts, and Richon feels like he's worth more 605 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,360 in a vacuum. So they would be the team I think most likely to 606 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,920 say no, but I kind of I dig Josh Richardson for the Raptors, 607 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,280 the Jazz, James Wiseman and Ryan Hollins for Kelly Olynik and a second round 608 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,920 pick. Wow. I mentioned Kelly Olynik before. For James Wiseman, it's 609 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,559 coming up. Now, do I do that? I do it? If 610 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:20,320 I'm Utah, just you have Walker My god, why somebody used to tell 611 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,440 me why I can't get my Kessler straight? You have in Utah, you 612 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,400 have Walker Kessler. Okay, so I was correct the first time and he's 613 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,639 been playing well. You have Jared Vanderbilt. If you're getting rid of Kelly 614 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:35,199 olynk like some minutes open up. But you don't want James Wiseman or Walker 615 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,639 Kessler playing before, so having those two bases redundant. At the same time, 616 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:42,159 Olynic's going to be a free agent. Just give me the upside play 617 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719 in Wiseman. He has the physical tools even if he isn't necessarily implementing them 618 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,400 right now, I do it if I'm Utah, Do I do it? 619 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,199 If I'm Golden State, Yeah, I probably do. Like this is just 620 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,559 I'm at the point where it's especially if they're gonna send me a second round 621 00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:58,360 pick, like I just might do it. I probably do it if I'm 622 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,679 Golden State. Is that just Is that bonkers at this point? Maybe it 623 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,119 is? But Kelly Lake would help them a lot. Like he could play 624 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,639 with Draymond, he could play with Kavan Loody, he could be the loan 625 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,760 being on the court. He's been better defensively as as a rim protector this 626 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,679 year than I expected him to be. He's going to stretch the floor for 627 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,559 you. I would do it. He's an upgrade over the Jamachael Green and 628 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,119 the previous James Wiseman minutes as well. So I'd probably do it. And 629 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,679 that that might be sad And I don't know if the Warriors have the stones 630 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,039 necessarily to sell that low, but yeah, I would do it. The 631 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:35,920 Wizards they get Terry Rows year for Ruey Hotchimore and Will Barton. That's a 632 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,519 hard no for the Wizards. For me. We still I still don't really 633 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:42,320 know what Ruey is like he had a good start to the season as like 634 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,039 a spark plug off the bench. Will Barton's an expiring contract. I just 635 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:50,159 at this point you have Monte Morris, the loan Right's gonna be healthy eventually. 636 00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:52,719 I don't know why you want to tack on the extra I know that 637 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,840 the Wizards are addicted to being in the middle, but why you want to 638 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,480 tack on the two years? And and what is he at forty million? 639 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:06,559 No, he's at forty set forty eight million left on Terror'sier's contract, plus 640 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,360 he's got it mostly a full year. He's got three extra years left on 641 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,800 his deal that, when fully guaranteed, would be sent me five million, 642 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,920 and most of that is guaranteed. So like said, like, so, 643 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,679 no, I wouldn't do this. As if I'm Washington, that's just terror 644 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,400 Zier has not played well enough for me to get in that business while giving 645 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,719 up to expiring contracts. They like if we're talking Cody Martin, like if 646 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,199 they want to go after him or maybe even PJ. Washington. But I 647 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,239 don't love the Rosier fit. Again, you have Monte Morris, there, 648 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,599 you have Bradley Beal delan right, like you don't need another guard who's not 649 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,039 especially big. The shooting would help out a ton, so that's a no 650 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,039 for me. I hope you enjoyed this reaction. I have a lot of 651 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,679 respect. Coming up for trade ideas for every single team is hard, so 652 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,039 as you don't like them like, that's an exercise to go through. Please 653 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,760 remember, if you're still with us, subscribe to us on YouTube and wherever 654 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,760 you get podcast, Apple, Spotify, Google Play, both mediums that helps 655 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,320 us out of ton. Tell people about us, retweet our promos, recommend 656 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,280 us anything you could do to help us continue building the communities. Follow us 657 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239 on the socials. The links to that are in the podcast and YouTube descriptions. 658 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,360 End last, but certainly not least, leave you. I leave you 659 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,719 with the shout out till one the only, the indelible, the person who 660 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,599 embodies the spirit of Thermonuclear af Frank Nila Keina