1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,919 Tiger Woods was in the stump, and he decided that because his father was 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,839 a Green Beret, he signed up for military training. Green Bereys don't accept 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,720 that kind of stuff, no civilians. So he went for three days to 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,320 seal training. Okay, because he's a celebrity, sorry, went through the 5 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:23,960 Playboy course of seal training. You know, give me great and came out 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:31,320 with his steely gaze and evidently was really intimidating for several years with that military 7 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:35,719 background. Three days of seal training. First of all, there's nothing like 8 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:39,439 green Berets. Green Berays at the top. I went through that. I've 9 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:43,359 got wounds to show for it, but you don't go through that three days. 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,359 It's a mental attitude that I convey to people, and I do it 11 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:51,759 through stuff like adversity training. If it's ran out, go play three balls 12 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:56,200 in a fairway, kick it into the left and get tough. This is 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,880 William Murkhark from Puna Gorda, Florida, and I say out at Twin Aisles 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,280 golfin Country Club. Also on put of go to Florida. This is golf 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:11,280 Smarter number ninety nine. The best players in the world also make unforced metal 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:18,319 mistakes if doctor Don Green. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips 17 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:23,120 and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your score and raise your 18 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:27,560 golf IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter 19 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,879 podcast, Doctor Green. Hello Fred, it is I've had other friends on 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,879 the show, but this is the first time with a Green with three e's 21 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,159 kindred spirits. But okay, now that we've we've put in doctor Green, 22 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:47,719 we'll call you Don from here on out. But we want everyone to know 23 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,920 that you came highly recommended. I was so flattered that Rick Cessinghouse wrote to 24 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,640 me and said, you've got to have Don Green on your show. I 25 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,000 have great respect for Rick, so that's nice to hear, as do we. 26 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:07,400 He is a very great guy and a great teacher. Yes. So 27 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:15,280 my research shows that you didn't really start with sports on this it was a 28 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:20,439 lot of performers. Am I going in the right direction here? Oh? 29 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,319 Actually I did start with sports, and then you did start. Then I 30 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:29,800 got into working with performing artists after that. Oh yeah. And the similarities 31 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,080 Where did you find the similarities between the two? There are mets Because I 32 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:38,840 come out of a competitive background. I was a springboard diver. Wow. 33 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,199 And then I was with the Olympic diving team and then an Olympic swimming team. 34 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,680 The of the Olympic teams is how I got into golf, because I 35 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:53,080 didn't start out in golf. But after that I started working with performing artists 36 00:02:53,120 --> 00:03:00,280 who auditioning for big, big roles in orchestras or opera roles, and I 37 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,520 found out that they were very talented musicians. They were loving, kind people, 38 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,520 but they didn't have a competitive background. So when they got into a 39 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:15,080 competitive situation, namely an audition of going against a number of other talented train 40 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:21,479 musicians, they tended to fold choked like big dogs. And when I started 41 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:27,879 teaching them competitive skills, they started winning everything. Wow. The first example 42 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:35,479 was when I was working with a lot of athletes in Northern California, track 43 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:42,240 and field, football, swimming, diving, all the competitive sports. Contacted 44 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,759 by a music teacher in New York who wanted to work with four or her 45 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:53,800 students. There was a big audition coming up for french horn and it was 46 00:03:53,879 --> 00:04:00,520 one position with the Metropolitan Opera, which is the top paid orchestra world, 47 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,919 and they had one position opening and two hundred and fifty people sending recordings to 48 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:15,319 the Met. Wow, very established recordings, laid down with the repertoire and 49 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,000 all the challenging songs. And of those people, the Met accepted fifty nine 50 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:27,240 people to come to New York to play for the audition. This teacher contacted 51 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,000 me about working with four or her students. I knew nothing about the French 52 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,879 one. I didn't know the diff in the French one in a trumpet other 53 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:41,319 than it's a very challenging instrument that I came to know. Well. I 54 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:44,240 worked with these four women. I met with them. I gave them one 55 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,639 of my assessments that I used with competitive athletes about how they perform under pressure, 56 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,439 and they made it work for them. I met with them and I 57 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:57,800 designed a program for each of them, separate program preparing for this, like 58 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,480 was the Olympics. Oh, they had the audition and those four women of 59 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:05,920 the fifty nine came in first, second, fourth, and fifth. And 60 00:05:05,959 --> 00:05:12,519 that's when the president Julliard wanted to meet with me to see if his students 61 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,879 had to be competitive. Sure, and that's when I switched over and started 62 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,879 teaking at Juliod, but teaching the same strategies that I touch to competitive athletes, 63 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:29,480 but since very few musicians came out of the competitive background, my people 64 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:32,920 won everything. And that's that's what I did for many years. Oh, 65 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:38,839 that's so fascinating. So I'm okay, I'll admit it. My wife and 66 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:43,560 I are junkies for American Idol and we have been for a number of years. 67 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,560 Okay, I've admitted it. It's out in public now. But what's 68 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:53,079 fascinating to me is these kids come in an audition for this and it's doing 69 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,120 what they've always done, which is they sing their song. Now, granted, 70 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,560 they're singing it in front of three very prominent profile musicians who you know 71 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,600 who they they shudder at when they see when they walk in the room. 72 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,759 But when it gets to the next level, then they're actually competing against other 73 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,680 singers, right, and they're not prepared for that. It's clear that they're 74 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:20,680 like, oh, no, I'm a singer, I'm not a competitor, 75 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,399 and they keep saying no, no, yes, this is a competition, 76 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,240 right, This is a competition. So you've got to be prepared to bring 77 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,920 your best game at all times, and they haven't been trained to do that 78 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:36,000 at all, and a lot of them haven't been trained to sing. I 79 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:45,519 mean it's as well, ayright, But when you're getting to Julia and you 80 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 can't get away with anything, I mean, that's that's a different game. 81 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:54,199 That's totally different. And that's why why I love opera. I can't do 82 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,319 that. Oh wow, it's hanging it out on the line. I mean, 83 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,160 it's it's going for a home run every time, and that's stuff. 84 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:10,360 So what's interesting about golf is that mostly, even at the highest levels, 85 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:14,959 you're just competing against yourself exactly. It's not it's not a one on one 86 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,480 mono and mono type of situation. You just got to play your best game, 87 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,680 that's it, and and let everything else just go where it goes. 88 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:29,639 Which is the difference between boxing and golf. Okay, the other guy and 89 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,000 let you want to get hurt. But yeah, golf in the bubble and 90 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:42,079 and that's something players but a lot of players, even golf, their approach 91 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,920 to competition is not idea. Yeah, I bounce all over the place, 92 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,120 and I just want to know. You were a competitive diver, yes, 93 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,839 springboard, springboard platform too. Yeah, I was division one. Yeah. 94 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,439 Oh so you were at three meter right, yeah? Yeah, ten meter 95 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:03,879 boards? Yeah, and at what level did you get to my My brother 96 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:07,000 did that in high school, so we were always I was in the top 97 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,680 five nationally all four years high school. Well where was that where Brooklyn I 98 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,680 went? I grew up in Brooklyn. Yeah, oh, well, there's 99 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:22,600 not a lot of swimming going on at diving school. All four years in 100 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:26,199 the city Catholic high schools. And then I and then I got an athletic 101 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:31,800 appointment to West Point based on my diving. That's how Yeah, and I 102 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,919 deal with West Point? And how did you get involved with the PGA. 103 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,159 Yeah, that's a good question. I had. I had played some golf 104 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:45,559 with my uncles in college, but nothing to talk of. I enjoyed it. 105 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,039 I was with the Olympic diving team in Southern California, and after our 106 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,519 team won the Olympics, a real estate developer in Florida, Southern Florida said, 107 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,320 bring the team out here. I want to court to our America team 108 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:05,960 swimming that what year was this? This is eighty four, eighty five, 109 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:11,480 the eighty four Olympics in Los Angeles exactly. I went to the diving competition 110 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,039 there, saw Greg Lugana. That was my team. That was what I 111 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,840 was with. Okay, I thought we would look familiar, but I mean 112 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:26,200 we we dominated. But but he was inspired by that and contacted Ron O'Brien, 113 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:28,919 the diving coach, and the swimming coach said if you come here, 114 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,120 I'll build the pool for you. I'll build the pool. Okay, wow, 115 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,919 And he did ditch. So we moved to Southern Florida. Folk returned 116 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Florida okay, and we had nothing to do, et cetera. And somebody 117 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:52,639 said, uh, you need to meet Peter Costas. He's he's a big 118 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,559 fan of the Olympics. So Peter came out to the pool and watched the 119 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:05,039 divers flatform and he basically said, you teach me sports psychology. I'll teach 120 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,919 you though. Wow, that's quite an exchange. Yeah, And I didn't 121 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,399 realize who he was at the time, but he would, you're like, 122 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:18,240 you teach you got okay, And I was a bachelor. I knew nobody 123 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,679 in South Florida. So he would give me a lesson one on Monday. 124 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,639 Our two lessons. Oh as soon as I met him, soon as she 125 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:33,440 said I'll teach you, go you teach me sports psychology. He measured me 126 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,440 that day for pink irons. He gave me a fairway with, gave me 127 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,399 a wedge, gave me a cutter, started giving me lessons. He give 128 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:43,519 me a lesson on Monday, Monday night, I'd go to the driving range 129 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:48,320 Tuesday night, go to Wednesday, I go back from I say, ready 130 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,480 for the next lesson, and then my ping clubs came in. And that's 131 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:54,799 all I did. That's all I did. And plus I started working with 132 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,720 some of his players. Okay, So, so I'm a big fan of 133 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:05,320 assessments. I come up with my own questionnaires, assessments I had for athletes, 134 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,679 I converted them performing artists, converted them for golfers. Okay, assessments. 135 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,039 So I had him take one of my assessments, which measure focus, 136 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:26,759 distractability, energy levels, concentration, confidence, mental toughness. He was fascinated 137 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,480 by Peter's an engineer. Peter's a left brain, very analytical, so he 138 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:37,600 was fascinated by the science behind it. So I gave him in a profile 139 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:45,039 comes out like this comes out as a graph anyway, So he's fascinated by 140 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,240 it, and he says, you know, I want my players to take 141 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:56,960 this. Okay, Well it was a week before draft. Okay, and 142 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,519 always come always players go to Saint Andrews for lesson with Peter tune up. 143 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,799 Okay, so all of these top players he's working with, and he says, 144 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:13,240 these guys sit down and take the fucking test. Okay, otherwise some 145 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,799 new guy, you know, Olympic sports psychologists young knew nothing about golf. 146 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,480 They would have given me the time of day. Peter says, sit down 147 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,240 and take the damn test. The guys are Freddy Couples, Tom Kite, 148 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:37,879 Bernhard Langer, Davis love Lannie Watkins, Tom Pertzer, twelve one. And 149 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:41,480 then he has me sit down over the next three days with each guy and 150 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:48,159 go over their profile. Oh my gosh, that was my introduction into golf. 151 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Okay, oh my gosh. All right, we're going to pick up 152 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,480 on that right after this. We need to take a break. We'll be 153 00:12:52,600 --> 00:13:03,960 right back. Well, what was it that got you hooked on golf? 154 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,279 Was it going to the driving range those first couple of days, or was 155 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,320 it meeting this like some of the biggest names in the sport a week later 156 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,080 that week? Here, I was working with the last several years with amateur 157 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:24,360 athletes, and there's a lot of volunteer work and I realized that there was 158 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,360 only one guy in golf at the time, Bob Rutella, and he was 159 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:35,759 having a lot of success. And I saw all these guys a millionaires and 160 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:41,120 yeah, yeah. So Peter says to me, okay, I want you 161 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:46,519 to work with some of my women, okay. And they were struggling. 162 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:52,600 They had both been an All American at University of Florida. One had been 163 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:56,960 on tour for nine years and never won, another one had only won once 164 00:13:56,039 --> 00:14:01,320 in nine years. He asked me to work with and I worked intensely with 165 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,360 them. I didn't work intensely with the twelve guys they were they were off 166 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,720 to do owt. But Peter gave me these two women and they both won. 167 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:16,080 Laurie Garbacy won Tucson Open, first tournament ever. Lori Rinker won the 168 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:22,960 Corning Open. And then Peter started giving me more guys and then introduced me 169 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,600 to Golf Bija schools and I started teaching at Golf Digest schools and writing for 170 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:33,120 the magazine. And that's that's what I did for six years. That's all 171 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:39,200 I did. Incredible. Yeah, So I'm curious that when you're working and 172 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,720 you were new to the sport, but it was performance. It was it 173 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:50,960 was competitive element of it. Where where did you find the common thread between 174 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:56,360 all these high level players when you're just being introduced to the sungar. It's 175 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:00,600 all the same. To me, It's all about focus and mental toughness and 176 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:03,840 staying in the moment and all that. Not many people teach focus. I've 177 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:09,559 got my own approach to it with an athletic background, a martial arts background, 178 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,919 and my whole approach to mental toughness because to me, golf, this 179 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,600 game of mental toughness is not easy. You know, wins howling, you 180 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:24,879 know you're three over, you're in a bunker. Yeah, and I'm a 181 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:31,919 former Green Beret. I apply that to golf. There's no training in the 182 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Green Berets is a game of golf toughness. So here's the thing. Tiger 183 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:45,960 Woods years ago was in the stump and he decided that because his father was 184 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,559 a Green Beret, he sign up for military training. Well, green Berets 185 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:58,080 don't accept that kind of stuff, no civilians. So he went into seal 186 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:03,600 training. He got accepted for three days of seal training. Okay, because 187 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,080 he's a celebrity, Okay, sorry, We went through the Playboy course of 188 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,279 seal training, you know, give me great and came out with the steely 189 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:21,480 gaze and evidently was really intimidating for several years with that military background. Okay, 190 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,080 with the seal three days of sealed training, give me right seal, 191 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:30,960 say, first of all the seals, there's nothing like green Berets, green 192 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,799 Brays at the top. You ask anybody in the world who's the top Special 193 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Forces Green brey. I went through that. I've got wounds to show for 194 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:44,279 it. Okay, but you don't go through that three days. It's a 195 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:48,840 it's a it's a mental attitude that I convey to people, and I do 196 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:52,159 it through stuff like adversity training. Namely, if it's right out, go 197 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:59,679 play people. Also a fairway kick it into the rouff. Yeah, and 198 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:03,160 get tough because it's a game of mental toughness. And on Monday, on 199 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Sunday, on the Final nine, it's gonna show. Every Sunday it's shows. 200 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,000 I call it the Sunday Shadow Show because their shadows shows up and it's 201 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:18,279 like they're an alien playing the last nine holes. No, they've been you 202 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:23,559 know they're eight over eight under all of a sudden, you know they're five 203 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:30,000 over in the last nine holes, and it's mental weakness because they're not trained 204 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:33,960 to be mentally tough. They're not They're not military, dude. They went 205 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,359 to college at regular college. It came out had a good life, not 206 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:44,119 me. Well, green Beret is life and death on golf is a game, 207 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,640 and some people like it, but it comes down to it, it's 208 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:52,480 it's I created like it is their life and death. You lose enough cuts, 209 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:57,599 you're off the tour. Maybe selling real estate, yeah, as their 210 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:04,039 wife, but as their wife from its life and death. I could see 211 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:11,119 that point. And do we as golfers take ourselves far too seriously. Yes, 212 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:15,119 it's a game, yeah, and it is serious, but nobody's bleeding, 213 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:22,480 I mean hopefully. Yeah, Yeah it is. It can be too 214 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:26,759 serious of trying too hard forcing it and you lose flow. And that's where 215 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:34,519 Rick comes in say, you gotta be slow, right and now I'm in 216 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:40,200 the flow is perstrictive of seeing the big picture. Namely, it is just 217 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:48,880 again, I just can imagine you dealing with these athletes and they're talking about 218 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,400 how tough and blah blah blah it is, and they you know, they're 219 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,839 getting in the way and your roll. I could just hear your eyes rolling 220 00:18:53,920 --> 00:19:00,200 going. You don't know tough, you don't know challenge. You're just in 221 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,240 a little ball here. You're just jumping off of a plank into the water. 222 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:11,079 You're I was in Fort Lauderdale with the Olympic timing team and we were 223 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,319 at a practice with a ten me to practice one day, and you know, 224 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,240 there's nothing like standing on a pool deck and looking up. It's right 225 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:19,519 away until you're up there, and then he looked down, it's oh my 226 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:25,960 god. So so an opera coach from the Miami Opera asked me if he 227 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,119 could bring out two of his studio singers because they were having performance anxiety. 228 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:36,160 Okay, and I'd never been I'd never been to an opera in my life, 229 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 okay before I started with opera singer. In fact, there's a green 230 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:47,680 bray. You don't catch green bree they don't drive together, so okay, 231 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,000 bring them out. So it brings out these two opera singers in the middle 232 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:55,559 of this practice, and both of them are overweight, and both of them 233 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,960 looked like they're afraid of their own shadows. And he introduces them to me. 234 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:03,359 They were afraid of me and everything else, and they say they're afraid 235 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,640 of singing these arias, these pieces. I'm thinking, these women are up 236 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,720 there with just bathing suitsan and you could kill yourself on the next dive. 237 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,599 Don't talk to you, you know. So he says, well, you 238 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,119 got to come to a practice session with them, okay. And I'd never 239 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,759 been to an opera, never been, And here I am in a studio 240 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,440 with these two singers and he's playing the piano and I'm standing next to them, 241 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:40,279 and that intent power who that came out of it like an explosion without 242 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:44,200 no amplifier. It's like that I'm next to a big guitar amp. And 243 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:48,920 I got fascinated with the power of that and how to do that. And 244 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,319 then I saw that there on this edge of fear that they can crack if 245 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:56,400 they push it a little bit, crack. If it cracks, it's like 246 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:03,200 dropping the football. It's black white. And I saw that they had reason 247 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:07,440 to have fear and anxiety just as much as they were diving off a platform. 248 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,680 And once I understood that and how scary it was, that's when I 249 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:18,920 really started clicking yet fascinated and enjoyed working with them as much as I worked 250 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,119 with I worked with Alympic shot put it the number two guy in the world. 251 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,160 When you stand next to him shot, it's like talk about an explosion, 252 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,440 and it was just like opera and I got fascinated by it. Wow, 253 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:37,160 and started working with the LA Young Artist Program at the MET Young Artists 254 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,960 Program because they're struggling with the same thing that athletes struggled with it, which 255 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,559 is no injury involved. It's all about ego, loss, embarrassment. Nobody 256 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:53,720 likes to crack an oat you for you're up there basically naked. But so 257 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:59,279 how are you on the first team? You're naked there, you shank this 258 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,799 ball into the you can't hide from that. The sun didn't get your eyes, 259 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:07,279 not where you tripped you. You did that to yourself. Oh we're 260 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:15,480 going to pick that up right after this. You did that to yourself. 261 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,480 I mean, you know, you talk about the first t you're exposed, 262 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,680 you're naked, but you just got to go play that shot and you just 263 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,400 go to the next one, and you got to get over yourself. As 264 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,279 we've already said, you just get over yourself. Well, but the question 265 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:41,359 is what couse that were the barriers? Okay, yeah, well twenty years 266 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,519 ago I stopped doing what I was doing. I kept on, but I 267 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:51,920 wanted. I wrote a couple of books about this, but I still had 268 00:22:51,920 --> 00:23:00,480 a question I couldn't solve. Why did talented, trained, experienced individuals us 269 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,519 the range of music, sports, you name it, make unforced errors that 270 00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:10,400 they can't explain? And that's the question I went looking for, and it 271 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,039 took me twenty years to figure out, but I figured it out. And 272 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,359 please don't make us read the book, which is called Train. You're right 273 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:25,839 here, doctor don Green the threes absolutely, So what did you figure out? 274 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,839 How do they make unforced airror is at that level? Well, it 275 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,359 comes what causes the unforced airors? Okay? Well I'm a psychologist and i'm 276 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,519 training and I apply that, okay, but most of it's Freudian psychology, 277 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,599 freud it, egos, super ego, okay, and that doesn't that doesn't 278 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,960 explain unforced carreras. Okay. You've got ego, which is sensitive in reputation, 279 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,440 that's concerned about that, and you've got the it, but it doesn't 280 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,720 explain on forced James. Okay. So I went looking out side of that 281 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:07,720 to call young j U Nji, a Swiss psychotherapist round a time of Freud, 282 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,079 and he was agreed with Freud for a while until he realized that Freud 283 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:19,880 was upseessed with sex and over the top and some of the ego defense mechanisms. 284 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,799 Yeah, to block out reality and rationalization and denial all, but it 285 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:33,079 really doesn't help me with golfers missing shots, okay, missing fairways. You 286 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,680 know, you just hit one hundred balls on the range before you went out. 287 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Everyone is pure. You shy? You pull the left foot left into 288 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,480 the woods. What happened? I was distracted? Yeah, but yeah I 289 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,799 choke? Yeah, but what caused it? And Carl Young came up with 290 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,240 the answer? Okay, and yeah, and people don't necessarily want to hear 291 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,799 it, so I had to swallow. But it has to do with his 292 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,279 concept of the personality. Okay. Now, Carl Young was brilliant. He 293 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,000 predicted World War One at World War two. He's the man who came up 294 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,839 with the term synchronicity. Namely, things are connected beyond the level of that 295 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,240 world. Okay, So his model of the personality has a persona. Now, 296 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:23,359 persona is our outward mask that we show to the world, our happy 297 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,000 face. How are you doing? Everything's fine? Okay, Beyond that the 298 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:36,319 deeper part of our personality or dark side. Okay, that's not as pleasant 299 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,960 to look at, not as happy kind of okay, Shakespeare said this darkness 300 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,960 in me, I must acknowledge as mine. Billy Joel As Singer wrote a 301 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,839 song called The Stranger, same concept, the shadow on a dark side of 302 00:25:52,880 --> 00:26:00,880 a personality that comes out of early childhood trauma, unresolved things. Nobody perfectly, 303 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:07,119 No, we're all grow up with this. So so we keep this 304 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,160 shadow veried because it's not pleasant, but it's but it's there. And I 305 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,559 give the example to musicians. Okay, they go into a job where they're 306 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:21,119 playing with an orchestra and the new conductor comes in. Now, conductors could 307 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,279 be tricky things, they could be brilliant. We're idiots, okay. The 308 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,480 musicians know, okay, but they have they have to be nice to keep 309 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,200 their job, you know, because conductors have power. So you go into 310 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:37,200 the orchestra and you need to conduct. Hey, how you doing. It's 311 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,599 nice to see you, good to have you back. Fucking moron? When 312 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:48,079 to learn how to conduct that shadow? That shadow? Okay, and the 313 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,640 shadow is not necessarily happy because it's got a lot of unresolved trauma, things 314 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,759 that happened to it. It's unresolved and causes conflict, and it isn't necessary. 315 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,720 It wants attention, It wants people to pay attention to it, but 316 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:11,440 most of us just go await and den I ignore it. So like a 317 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:17,400 kid that wants to be sane, it wants your attention and to meet me 318 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,759 pe like me peel, but people don't. So it waits for opportunities to 319 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:27,240 get your attention, like the first team, like what the hell was that? 320 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,880 Me? Me? Me, go ahead, go it. With musicians, 321 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,440 it happens that the finals had auditions, that they make mistakes. Pay 322 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,599 attention. Let's resolve this. Confidence take some effort, takes some time. 323 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,559 Once you do stop making unforced air. It's not perc nobody's broke, and 324 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:56,720 god, there's too many variables to win. But but hitting the hitting the 325 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,200 ball this much up the center of the club face on a drive is not 326 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:08,319 the wind. It's the shadows you causing a mistake making. And that to 327 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:15,720 me is what I watch every Sunday on golf. Two channels may live in 328 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:22,920 PGA, and all I see is unforced hairs on Sunday that they are shaking 329 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,839 their head like they go to the teacher who says, what was that I 330 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:37,440 do right in this spot? There's no other explanation than that they actually meant 331 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:44,759 mistake that. It's a mind blowing but nobody else addresses it. I've read 332 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,680 all the books on choke and you name it. Nobody else is really solid 333 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:55,400 for golf. Is it solvable? Yeah, that's what I do. You 334 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,799 solve it? Yeah? Do you get resistance? Do you get people like 335 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,559 your pointing this out, You're showing them where it is and what's going on. 336 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:07,960 Take some coaxing, yes, and they have to do just to use 337 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:15,400 your green beret coaxing. No, No, they've had enough for that. 338 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,960 I've I've been basically in a closet for the last nine years. First I 339 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,279 wrote the book, and I thought I could do it in a year. 340 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:33,119 It took me five years. It's hard, it's complicated and hard to convince 341 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,039 people. Okay. Then people said, you know, you need a journal 342 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,440 to go with the book, because it's work. You've got to write this 343 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,920 stuff out. So I took six months and wrote a journal. Okay. 344 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Then people said, you know, people don't read books anymore. You got 345 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,039 to do it audiobook. Okay, so I converted my dining room into a 346 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:59,319 sound studio, professional sound studio, and I became a recording artist nine months. 347 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,519 The hardest thing I've ever done. I couldn't use my lecture voice. 348 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,279 It blows out the speakers. So I had to convert my voice to my 349 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:15,799 bedroom voice. Okay, folks, take a nice deep breath. And I 350 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,480 finished it. And then I took me two months to recover from it because 351 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,599 I blew out my voice. I couldn't talk for two months. And then 352 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:30,559 I started teaching more musicians and they were winning everything, and then I thought, 353 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,480 you know, I got to get back into golf. I left golf 354 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:40,640 on good terms. I had great relationships with a lot of good teachers, 355 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,759 so many wonderful teachers, and some of the teachers that I taught with early 356 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,559 that were junior teachers at golf I, just like Todd Anderson, is now 357 00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:55,759 a senior teacher in Florida at a learning center. One of the writers I 358 00:30:55,759 --> 00:31:00,839 wrote with was a young writer at Golf. I is now editor in chief 359 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960 of Golf Digest, and I don't want to get in touch with him again. 360 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:12,240 And basically and hiding working only with performing artists and nothing has changed in 361 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:18,680 golf. In most every other sports, the records are falling, like the 362 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,519 world's shot put record just fell over the weekend. Okay. Track records are 363 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:27,119 being broken all the time, swimming records, divers are diving doing new dives. 364 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,960 People are not shooting in the fifty five wage. The equipment is better, 365 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,480 golfers are stronger, doing better shape, golf courses are better, greens 366 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,559 are better, caddies are better. Everything's better. Nothing's changing. The scorees 367 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:51,319 stay the same. Why unforced errors people are making more eagles because they're hitting 368 00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:56,400 it landing on part five is because the distance and all that. But they're 369 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,640 probably three putting, probably more than ever. I'm writing a series now. 370 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:08,400 I've got I've got four articles right here that I'm writing first time for Golf 371 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,960 Digester whoever, some wit'st not, and one's on free putting. Okay, 372 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:24,000 the world's top player greens and regulation fairways hit every stat other than putting two 373 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:30,400 years in a row is one hundred and forty first in putting. I'm writing 374 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,519 an article on it. I'm writing it. I'm writing an article on I 375 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,640 call Caddy Talk. Caddy Talk. We have time to explain us. You 376 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,559 want to take a break. That's what we're gonna do. We'll take a 377 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:51,200 break and then let's explore it. We'll be right back, all right, 378 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:57,640 let's continue, all right. So caddy caddy plays a very important role, 379 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,400 and caddies are more sophisticated, tend to be better players. There are some 380 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:07,160 tend to be famous, you know, they common on TV, and they 381 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:13,160 play an important role with club selection when all of that, okay, However, 382 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,519 some of them tend to overdo it. Okay, maybe to keep their 383 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:22,839 jobs, okay, But to me, the job of a caddies is to 384 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:27,920 give the right information before that player steps into the ball. And I think 385 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,359 of it as like a nine foot circle around the ball. That's the zone 386 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,480 for the player, okay, and the job of the caddy is to enable 387 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,960 the player to step in there with a clear idea, the right club, 388 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,039 the right information, and then people blunt. Okay. So we have two 389 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,920 parts of our brain, a left brain and a right brain. Okay. 390 00:33:51,200 --> 00:34:00,079 The left brain is analytical, making well numbers and words okay, like one 391 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,720 hundred and sixty three yards to the pin, but it's back five yars, 392 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:07,079 but the wind's going left to right. The words, but the practice found 393 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,639 the dead need you need all these words, which are really important words, 394 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:17,039 right, okay. So and then the player is filled with these words, 395 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:22,400 but he's got convert these from left brain to right in other words, to 396 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,000 picture of the shot, the image of the shot, the feel of the 397 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:30,239 shot. Does it feel like one hundred and thirty three hundred and thirty five? 398 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,119 The feel? How does it feel in his hands? All the right 399 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:39,400 brain stuff, no words, mental quiet because in there they need one idea 400 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:45,480 and mental quiet and no words, no numbers. So they're ready at the 401 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,159 shot. Okay, got it? Say hey, the wind just picked up. 402 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,559 You know, it's playing more like one hundred and fifty six and one 403 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,559 hundred and fifty eight, so maybe it's not. Maybe it's a sectory. 404 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,840 Now he got back again, so okay, okay. Oh, and don't 405 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,679 pull it left in the water like you didn't practice, because the mind does 406 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,199 not understand the word don't, only what comes after the words don't. So 407 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:14,639 don't pull in the left and waterer. The image is there. That's it. 408 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,800 And then easton order Cady says, I told you not to hit in 409 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,960 the water, but you said put it in the water. So I'm going 410 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:27,360 to write this artuple. I'm gonna fend some caddies, and I don't I 411 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,079 love talking to caddies. Well, I love having them on the show. 412 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,320 I'd write, and I've said this before, I loved I'd rather talk to 413 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,719 caddies than than tour players because tour players are a little bit protected. I 414 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,119 mean, professional athletes. They've been burned, so they know how and what 415 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,079 to say. Caddies don't get it. They'll tell stories. They love telling 416 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:50,440 stories. And I have caddy. I'm caddy at Q School. I've caddied 417 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,239 at the Open. Yeah, yeah, and I know the game. Uh. 418 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,760 And again, I've been away from it doing this other stuff, professional 419 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,360 performers, and nothing's changed in golf, and nobody's approaching it from my point 420 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,679 of view. And I'm just so glad to be delighted with Rick, who 421 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,239 understands it. Rick understands this. He's the only brow I know in golf 422 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:19,079 that understands now my approach to it. And he's totally on board. That's 423 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,559 why I was sinking up so well. Yeah, and that's why I wrote 424 00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:27,000 to us. He wanted to get you on golf smarter. So you have 425 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,119 three books? Is that correct? Train your own hero fight your fear and 426 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:37,480 win. And performance success and audition success an audition success, right, are 427 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,679 those two different? Performance success and audition success are two different ones. Okay, 428 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,800 But again the one for golfers is trained your ound here, and it's 429 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:52,039 got an example in there of Parker McLaughlin, who when I first worked with 430 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:58,159 him, had never won in college at U c l A. He had 431 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,639 this surgery. When I first met him, couldn't hit a ball, and 432 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,480 he wanted to rent out Tahoe Open and now he's a short game teacher in 433 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:12,599 Phoenix. Awesome. So what about us the amateur golfer. We're not at 434 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,239 that level. We'll never get at that level. Even the best of us, 435 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,199 you know, guy who wins a club championship still could not compete at 436 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:27,280 that level on the PGA tour. So let's just talk about the middle handicappers. 437 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,519 You know, some guys single digit most everybody else is you know, 438 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:36,480 hovering around the rest of that. And it's as we talked about earlier, 439 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,280 we're competing against ourselves, our own worst enemy, especially on the golf course, 440 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,119 and we give ourselves a whole lot more blame than we do credit. 441 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,519 I love how you're nodding with things that I'm saying here. Help us, 442 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,800 please give us some give us some advice, give us some tips of what 443 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,599 it is that we can do to remove not just fear, but doubt or 444 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,440 do those go hand in hand? They do, but they're different quantities. 445 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,480 Fear is more an emotional, doubt is more a thought. Oh oh like 446 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:19,840 it, yeah, explain that? Please? Well again, the left brain 447 00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,159 thought is can I hit the shot? You know? I need more collaborate 448 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:31,079 all of the thoughts, questioning yourself, distrusting yourself. That's different than the 449 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:37,119 emotion of fear of fear of embarrassment, fear of loss, fear of losing 450 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:42,039 this two dollar esso. It's a different emotion. People tiy to lump them 451 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:47,119 together, and that's the problem. So it's discriminating those two and putting that 452 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:54,360 into your preshot routine, namely, switching from left brain noise or words or 453 00:38:54,519 --> 00:39:00,960 doubt into right brain see the shot, feel the shot, hit the shots. 454 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,679 It's as simple as that. But simple, it's good. That's the 455 00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:07,119 beauty of golf. There's no time limit on it, which can be a 456 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,320 problem, you know, standing over the ball too long or taking too many 457 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,159 looks at the whole or the target, which is no good. Uh. 458 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,000 And it's getting this routine and flow. And that's again where Rick comes in. 459 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,159 A routine that keeps you in flow, which is movement. See the 460 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,960 problem with golf is you get stuck over the ball forever. But it's a 461 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,760 movement activity. So I believe you know something moving, then slight pause and 462 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,400 go because if you're stuck too long, your brains can engage it again to 463 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,400 start thinking. That's why I see it, feel it, hit it and 464 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,239 getting a float. And are you a big advocate of a preshot routine? 465 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,280 Oh? Yes, I spend massive amount of time on pre shot tea. 466 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,360 Yes. Absolutely. Oh and what about post shot routine? Is there a 467 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,840 value in that? Yeah, there's a value in that, in getting value 468 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,079 out of the shot, hit it right or wrong, not judgment, just 469 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,760 discriminating, you know, slightly off the faces likeness okay, and then the 470 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,440 club goes in the bag and so does your thought about it. Okay. 471 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:22,280 And you do not carry any emotional forward. I hate to see a head 472 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:29,440 go down now. No, do not manifest your emotions. Nobody should be 473 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,599 able to feel what you're experiencing. I'm a believer, green brain, absolutely 474 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,559 cold, stone cold facial expression. You're not going to see unless you see 475 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:45,800 a smile or smile or appreciate it out of me. You may think that 476 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,800 I'm fuming with anger, but you'll never see me slammer club. That's that's 477 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,320 right, that's a mistake, especially fat, it's not. Come on, 478 00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:00,639 it's not. Yeah. The beauty of golf is once you step in that 479 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,480 circle, okay, it's your show, and whether you hit a good shot 480 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,039 or a bad shot, that's up to you. And at the end of 481 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:14,920 the day, you need to take value in that, in yourself, in 482 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,519 winning over yourself. And that three is an example that golf can do, 483 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,679 whether you're playing a PGA or just with a bunch of buddies with your reputation 484 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,840 or online. When I started working on Wall Street years ago, because I 485 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,599 started working with senior traders at Merrill Lynch this is in my book, and 486 00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:42,880 the senior trader, the highest paid trader in the world. His only question 487 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:47,920 to me was can you help me break eat? And when I said but, 488 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,719 he kept you a look, I said yeah. And he has since 489 00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:00,000 shot and shot in programs A seventy three and a seventy five. Nice. 490 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,760 Yeah, but how's his work ethic? I mean, did you help him 491 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360 anywhere at all? That he just wanted to talk about golf? But was 492 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,960 he vulnerable enough to He gave me his senior traders to work with before nine 493 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,119 to eleven, they were in a slow Okay, I knew nothing about Wall 494 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,000 Street. I know nothing about trading. I know nothing. I worked with 495 00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:29,159 his twelve senior traders, teaching the same stuff. Their P and L went 496 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,480 up twenty one. Wow. That's when he invited me to work with another 497 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,159 group of people and another group of people, which is what I did until 498 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:44,559 nine to eleven. And I would have been there my last day off after 499 00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,679 the summer. I would have been there. But I spent the next two 500 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:52,159 months repairing the damage, getting people back on track. And then I moved 501 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,800 to Hawaii and I started playing golf again, and that's when somebody introduced me. 502 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,559 They had pro at Wylin, who introduced me to Parker mcglocka and who 503 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,000 the kid I worked with. Okay, tell us how to find you online 504 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:12,119 and how to work with you. Sure, it's train Yourround hero dot com 505 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,639 and you can contact me through that. I have an assessment that people can 506 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:22,000 take and feedback and sign up the sessions that they want. It works for 507 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:27,880 everything. In my book are examples of people I work with, like people 508 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,440 that never passed the bar exam, passed the bar exam, competitive dancers. 509 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:39,679 It works across the board. I just loved golf. It works really well 510 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,719 with golfers. You got hooked, huh. Yeah, Coss has got you 511 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,079 in. Yeah he sucked you all right, you just got suck. I 512 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,119 was such good. I traveled on the road with Bob Cosky and Jim Flick 513 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:59,599 Chuck Cook. They took me in. Yea, and but that would be 514 00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:02,599 in Tim, I'm a dating for a beginner, wouldn't it. I'm not 515 00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,480 in. You're green beret. Yeah, you're a green Berett. What do 516 00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:15,719 you care? Fascinating stories, easily relatable. Thank you so much, Don, 517 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,920 I really enjoyed having this conversation with you today. My pleasure. Thank 518 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:27,119 you. This is fun. Okay, I've held off long enough. It's 519 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,599 time to bring back the best of Golf Smarter from our archives of episodes that 520 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:37,320 are just no longer available on any podcast app. We started doing this in 521 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,519 April of twenty nineteen, when I discovered that a huge number of our episodes 522 00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:46,480 have disappeared from the cloud, but what has been a parent from the earliest 523 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:52,199 days is that because these conversations are ever green in nature, meaning that they're 524 00:44:52,360 --> 00:45:00,079 just as valuable, helpful, andsightful and interesting, today is when they our 525 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:06,280 first release. You've been digging in to listen once again. Since twenty nineteen, 526 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,119 you've known Golf Smarter Mulligans as a separate podcast. But here's what we're 527 00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:15,239 going to do differently this time, and I'm sorry I didn't do it earlier. 528 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,920 We're still going to dig into the vault every Friday, but from now 529 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,679 on it's right here in your Golf Smarter subscription. There's nothing more you have 530 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,119 to do. But as long as you follow Golf Smarter on your favorite podcast 531 00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,880 app, you'll get two episodes every week, Tuesday and Friday as always, 532 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,639 with Tuesday being a new episode and Fridays will be a new old episode. 533 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,239 And as we've done for the last couple of years, to get you ready 534 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,119 for a new golf season, we're bringing back every interview I did with the 535 00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:54,119 late Tony Manzoni, and this year we're releasing an additional episode that we discovered 536 00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:59,159 a few months ago. That's never been replayed. You've heard me talk about 537 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,679 Tony's video, The Loss Fundamental, that you can get for free when you 538 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,679 become a Golf Smarter Ambassador. But the reason I do this is because, 539 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:13,239 without fail, every time we play these episodes with Tony, I get more 540 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:19,480 emails about how his instruction has changed the lives of golfers around the world. 541 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:24,239 So here we go, two episodes every week right here on your subscription to 542 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,760 Golf Smarter. And speaking of ambassadors, thanks go out to William Urkhart of 543 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,440 Punta Gorda, Florida. And like so many of our ambassadors who participated, 544 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,119 William chose to receive a free link to Tony Manzoni's video of The Loss Fundamental, 545 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,159 just for telling us where he's from, where he plays, and what 546 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,880 episode number this is. 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