WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:08.919 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety 2 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.439 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get 3 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:16.359 off our show, idiot, the kids are playing or turn off. The 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.000 countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play 5 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:24.039 Inn Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.600 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:44.600 Now? Here's Nick Coffee. As a radio host here in the Louisville market, 8 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.200 a sports station, we talk about a lot of things outside of sports. 9 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.799 But I just want to say I've been very, very, very fortunate 10 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:55.600 in the last few weeks to be able to get things rolling at three o'clock 11 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:02.079 and we're just kind of hopping on the bus of chaos, if that makes 12 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.400 sense. I feel like we've had a lot of shows in the last couple 13 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.400 of weeks, last few weeks, John, where we're we're just getting it 14 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:12.120 started, where the day is already kind of maybe chaos in the right word, 15 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.640 but oh, it's the right word. We got some things going on, 16 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.719 right, things have been going on since I mean, it's almost like 17 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.599 the off season around here is more active than the regular season. It is 18 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.280 in What's crazy, Nobody believes me when I say it, and I've said 19 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.879 it many times. You have the spring, definitely parts of the summer. 20 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:34.920 It's not as if like it's hard to do a show, because I mean 21 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.760 I would never you know, I can talk and I actually like the idea 22 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:42.959 of when things are slow and there's not a lot going on that I can 23 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.920 go in a different direction that people like if I said, hey, join 24 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.760 us on Tuesday. We're gonna talk about, you know, the fight my 25 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.280 wife and I got into last night, Like that's not like that wouldn't be 26 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.040 a good lead in because this is a sport show, damn it. That's 27 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.200 the kind of response you would get from people. But you know, I 28 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:04.640 guess it's manipulating, right, Like you wouldn't think you'd be interested, but 29 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.280 you might find it entertaining interested. And if it's you laughing at me, 30 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.639 then that's fine. So I like it whenever you've got things, you know, 31 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.560 when you're not so focused on games and reacting to a season, and 32 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:20.120 that's a great part of it, right. But for Louisville basketball, I 33 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.759 mean, we've had two seasons where there really was no ride, if you 34 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:27.560 know what I'm saying. So when you have like coaching searches, transfer portal 35 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:31.439 stuff, I mean that's where you get the real chaos. And social media 36 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:38.400 specifically has let this become its own crazy world. And as we started the 37 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:43.800 show yesterday, it was just official, just you know, twenty minutes prior 38 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.120 that John Calipari was gone, he was done. He was letting everybody know 39 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:53.000 he was leaving. And I thought today that by the time this show started, 40 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:57.439 we may know who Kentucky's coaches. And I still think all signs point 41 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:02.240 to Scott Drew. But I'm also willing to say that I wouldn't be like 42 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:08.400 completely stunned if he didn't take the job. If he didn't have the relationship 43 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:15.159 with Barnhart, I don't think he would take it. But I think that 44 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.719 like Barnhart's got to be somebody that one is going to pay him a lot 45 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.479 of money. There's no doubt about it. He's going to get paid in 46 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.240 a major way, more money than Baylor would ever pay him. But also 47 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.280 like he would be willing to kind of ease him in in a way that 48 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.000 really he probably wouldn't do with any other coach because they already have a relationship. 49 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.120 And what I mean by that is Billy Gillespie. I heard a story 50 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:42.240 it might have been from uh, might have been from Tom Leach. This 51 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.639 was actually about a month ago, and I'm not even really sure how it 52 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:47.639 came about because at that time there was really no belief that cal was for 53 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.879 sure gone. But Tom Leach not on his show, but like on a 54 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.400 podcast. I saw a video clip where he was discussing how on the plane 55 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.000 ride from Texas to Kentucky when Billy Gillespie was hired, by the way, 56 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.000 I missed the hell out of that guy. Life was a lot better for 57 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:10.120 me as a Louisville fan when Billy Gillespie was coaching Kentucky better days. Better 58 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:14.639 days, no doubt. But he was trying to, really, I guess, 59 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.959 get through to Billy Clyde that this is not your typical job, Like 60 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.560 this is not and you would think before offering the job, and you know, 61 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.120 him agreeing to take the job, that would be a discussion. But 62 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:28.399 it sounds like Billy Gillespie just kind of didn't really want to, You just 63 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.720 didn't really care, didn't want to, didn't think anything of it, Like 64 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.759 didn't want to hear anything about how this could be a process because of you 65 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.959 know, this is different than Texas Tech. So I think Barnehard'll be able 66 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:44.680 to do that with with this guy, Scott Drew. And let's be real, 67 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.720 like it's I talked about this yesterday. If you are in fact going 68 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.279 to work for your friend, that's weird to me, Like I wouldn't want 69 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.240 if it's a close friend of mine, and I don't know how close they 70 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:56.879 are. But I like working with people that I don't know outside of work 71 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.519 Initially. What I mean by that is I like getting to know people through 72 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.639 work and then becoming you know, lifelong friends with him. I mean, 73 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:08.040 that's a huge part of my life. But I think the initial part of 74 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.519 like going to work with or work for it can be a little awkward, 75 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.120 but there's also the benefit of it. And this is what I didn't really 76 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.759 think about yesterday, and that he's got his back, like you know, 77 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:19.399 like Mitch will have. And Mitch's I think, always been loyal to every 78 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.680 coach and sometimes to a fault, and he showed some loyalty to Cal which 79 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:28.160 maybe loyalty isn't the right word because he was just doing his job and probably 80 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.279 you know, biting his tongue and acting like they were cordial and friendly. 81 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.120 Whenever Cal clearly didn't match that same energy. And then Cal was, you 82 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:39.079 know, trying to leave. And Cal has I guess told people behind the 83 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.160 scenes for a while this article if you haven't read it in The Athletic from 84 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.920 Kyle Tucker and Sham's Cherania. I mean, it's really well done. It's 85 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.319 a very long piece, but it's well done. And you know, Cal 86 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.079 has I guess been telling people for a while that he really regrets not leaving 87 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:55.519 for UCLA in twenty nineteen, and then he should have done it then. 88 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.680 So you know, I think Scott Drew's going to be the guy. But 89 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:05.439 I'm just willing to And it's not like I'm hoping and praying that they don't 90 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:10.480 get him because I'm scared. He's a good coach. He is somebody that 91 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:14.639 all things considered, you would understand why he's in the mix for the job. 92 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.800 Louisville wanted him, no no doubt about it. But I'm also like, 93 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.120 of all the names that are being discussed, I want it to be 94 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.759 Scott Drew. We talked about it a lot yesterday because he'll probably win, 95 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.120 and he may win at a really high level. But I've also seen enough 96 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.079 evidence to where he's had some really talented teams that don't do well in the 97 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.360 tournament. You know, not to say that that would happen if he's in 98 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.639 Lexington, but you know, it's not like I got to. Danny Hurley 99 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:42.160 scares the hell out of me, because Danny Hurley's is a monster. I 100 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.279 mean, he's I mean right now. Not only does he have the most 101 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.240 momentum, as I talked about yesterday, when it comes to their national championship 102 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.959 run, or I should say runs they've had the last couple of years. 103 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.279 They're on a big run that included two titles. The way in which they 104 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.439 do it is not based on once in a lifetime scenarios. It's just a 105 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:05.079 system that I think is in place to be running like a well oiled, 106 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.720 oiled machine for quite some time. Do you hear that you try to do 107 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.720 the bullet County oll? No? No, no, no, this is 108 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.920 what happens. I try. I'm so much in my head about doing it 109 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.519 that I just can't I can't speak. I said, Oh, because if 110 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:19.680 I was really just if I was just shooting the you know what, if 111 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.680 me and my Bullet County brother and John here were just talking, I'd say, 112 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.319 you know, it's a well old machine. We would say that ol 113 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.959 oiled machine. Which now I'm just overdoing it and it sounds weird. But 114 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:34.279 Dan Hurly scares me. Scott Drew he could be good there, but I 115 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.680 don't think he's as good as Cali Perry. If I'm being honest with you, 116 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:39.920 I mean, I just I just don't. And there's really not a 117 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:45.360 whole lot to dispute that in my opinion. Maybe lately he's done better, 118 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.120 but like he doesn't. I mean, Kentuck Cala Perry's own this rivalry, 119 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:51.040 make no mistake about it. And we've had some satisfaction along the way with 120 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.800 seeing some of the embarrassing things that have happened, Like they're lost to Saint 121 00:07:54.839 --> 00:08:00.959 Peter's, they're lost to Oakland, but he's dominated Louisville. Maybe Drew does 122 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.560 the same thing, but I'm not, like he's not somebody that I'm like, 123 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.600 really that worried about. I would worry about Dan Hurley because Dan Hurley's 124 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.759 the kind of coach that I'll put it this way, Pat Kelsey. Let's 125 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.399 say he starts crushing it and within five six years, Lowell is a bona 126 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.920 fide Top fifteen caliber team. Every year, a couple of deep runs in 127 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.360 the tournament. Maybe you get to a Final four once, and that'd be 128 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.800 great. Dan Hurley's the kind of guy that would make that look like nothing, 129 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.560 because I think he is that good as a coach. And this is 130 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.480 something that I know Kentucky fans. I know they think this, and I 131 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.480 know they believe this. But what are they gonna do? This isn't even 132 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.360 a criticism. If Scott Drew's your guy, you can see he's got a 133 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.480 championship on his resume. He's recruited really, really well at Baylor of all 134 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.679 places. He's a good coach. He is deserving to be in the mix 135 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.639 for this job, no doubt, and if he gets the job, he'll 136 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:58.320 be deserving of it. But he doesn't give you the element that has made 137 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:07.799 Kentucky at their very best. Rick Patino, John Caliperi larger than life figures 138 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.759 within the world of college basketball at a larger than life job, perfect dynamic. 139 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.320 Can you look, you can't go, you can't go find these guys 140 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.639 on the Street, but Scott Drew doesn't do any of that. Scott Drew 141 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.000 is boring. He has you know, I think, OKSR this morning they 142 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.120 were talking about his lack of swagger, and I mean, I don't think 143 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.679 I don't think there's lack of I don't think he has any and he's fine 144 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.240 with that. Like I'm never gonna act like the I mean, he seems 145 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.480 like a very genuinely great guy, which that'd be the one downside. I 146 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.159 want to dislike the Kentucky coach. I don't know if I'm gonna dislike sCOD 147 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.039 Drew. He seems like a really likable guy. And everybody who I know 148 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.440 that has at least had any encounter with him, rather be covering him or 149 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.840 interviewing him or maybe knowing him, has spoke highly of him as a human 150 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.600 being. I'll find some reason to like him, though, because that's just 151 00:09:52.600 --> 00:10:00.440 how this works. But I have some level of satisfaction knowing that this dude, 152 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.440 if it's Scott Drew, he's not gonna be He's not gonna be Kentucky 153 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:09.720 call or Patino Cow or Kentucky Patino. And look, he may still win 154 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:11.120 a bunch of championships, and that still would be, you know, something 155 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.399 I don't want to see as a Louisville fan. But that matters, and 156 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.120 they know it matters to now if they're winning at a high level, they're 157 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.440 gonna love this guy. They may, you know, they may, they 158 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.200 may do something as a fan base to kind of get him to show some 159 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:30.679 personality and maybe you know, unbutton his shirt from the tip top of the 160 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:31.919 shirt, you know what I'm saying, Like, maybe you know, maybe 161 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:33.960 let his hair down a little bit, if you know what I'm saying, 162 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.679 and maybe that maybe it'll all work out. Maybe maybe this fan base they 163 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:43.399 can they can help him kind of grow and develop some swagger as they say. 164 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.600 But I'm making sense John here. I don't want them to have a 165 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.960 guy that wins a whole lot but also has this dominant, commanding presence as 166 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.480 just you know, a larger than life figure. There's no scenario Scott drews 167 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.000 that guy. Yeah, that's that's fair. And I was thinking about other 168 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.799 coaches they may have had that are kind of lord of the Scott Drew personality, 169 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.679 and I feel like Tubby Smith, maybe not to the exact same extent 170 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.480 as Scott Drew Manfield. My voice is really struggling right now. But great, 171 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.919 I feel I feel like Scott Drew and Tubby Smith are on that same 172 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.360 level in terms of person great great people, great coaches. Honestly, I 173 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:20.639 mean Tubby, you know, his run at Kentucky is is just different because 174 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.240 it's not I mean, didn't it had the one title in his first year 175 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.720 and then from then on he had some other, you know, good teams. 176 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:30.360 I mean, he never he never missed the tournament. You know, 177 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.720 they didn't lose to teams like some of the teams that Kentucky's lost to in 178 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.960 the Calipari area. But obviously they didn't have the accomplishments either, but Tubby, 179 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.120 like Kentucky got stale. With Tubby, they weren't irrelevant, they weren't 180 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:48.240 not good. But that's why I think having that brand and that commanding presence 181 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.960 is a big deal, especially at a place like Kentucky, because you need 182 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.000 that and I think when you don't have that for a certain amount of time, 183 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.960 it starts to, you know, I think, diminish the brand. 184 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:05.399 And if look if if they are winning national championships every you know, six 185 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.600 seven years or something, or maybe even more frequent than that, and they're 186 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:09.759 going to a bunch of final fours. Then you know, what are you 187 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.120 gonna do. The guy's winning, that's what he's supposed to do. But 188 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:20.440 if you are a four seed at worst every year, you make a Final 189 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.639 four once in five years, a Sweet sixteen and Elite eight loss in the 190 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:30.759 second round, maybe another Elite eight, who would say that that's like a 191 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:35.600 failure. I mean, I guess Kentucky some of the Kentucky fans may, 192 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.320 but like, that's not bad by any means. It's better than what you've 193 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.679 done recently. But is that going to make it to where Kentucky is still 194 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.679 viewed as Like one of the reasons why Kentucky had such a commanding, dominant 195 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.639 presence within how the college basketball sport was covered is because of Caliperry and because 196 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.000 of Ricketino when he was there. And I just don't don't think you're gonna 197 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.519 get that with Drew. But it doesn't matter if he wins at a really 198 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.919 high level. But if he becomes you know, just the top fifteen, 199 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.480 top twenty annually caliber team without a big push to a title here and there, 200 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.960 Like I think that's where they they're going. They're gonna be good, 201 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.879 but it won't be anything like what they had in the early years of cow, 202 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.320 which, to be fair to everybody involved, that's not fair to ask 203 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.960 of anyone. And for those thinking, and I'm already seeing on the text 204 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:24.159 line, well who is that guy, I'll give you an example somebody who 205 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.600 has I think a very similar resume, but he didn't have the title, 206 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.200 and I know everybody loves the title and the title the titles matter, right 207 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.080 Like Scot Drew has the title. He's one of not many active coaches that 208 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.799 have won a national championship, and recruits at are really high levels. So 209 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.720 I mean, maybe the resumes aren't that similar. But if I'm just going 210 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.000 to tell you what I've seen from these two coaches from start to finish, 211 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.919 as far as what I've seen in their career, this guy's been at Baylor 212 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.000 as long as I I mean, I was he a head coach else before? 213 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:03.159 I think he was? Was he he was he at Valpraiso Maybe I 214 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.440 think he was, But either way, his work at Baylor is phenomenal. 215 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:15.279 But again, when you really get down to what makes his overall tenure super 216 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.960 impressive is because he did it at Baylor one season at Valpo by the way, 217 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.919 that was it. Yeah, So you know this isn't like, you 218 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:26.399 know, I'm not dumping on the guy, but I think Bruce Pearl is 219 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.519 a really really good coach as well. And I think Bruce Pearl has that 220 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.879 presence, has that you know, he's not Calie's not Patino who is though, 221 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.879 but like he's somebody that I think would really fit it to where you're 222 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.960 gonna get more like he's a figure within the sport. Scott Drew is not 223 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.039 and doesn't want to be. However, that doesn't mean he's not viewed as 224 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.679 a really good coach. And I know some people are thinking, like, 225 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.879 what's this idiot talking about? Who cares about any of that stuff? I 226 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.159 just want to win fair enough. But I'm telling you these things matter. 227 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:03.639 They do. So I get the sense that Kentucky fans, and I'm only 228 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.360 basing it off of you know what I see here and there on Twitter and 229 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.279 listening to KSR here and there in the last couple of days, like I 230 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.120 think they're willing to just acknowledge that it is going to be Scott Drew and 231 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.360 there they think, you know, anybody that looks as this as a potentially 232 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.799 bad hire is just out of their mind, which I would never claim it's 233 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.720 a bad higher. And I think I've overstated in the first fifteen minutes here 234 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:26.799 how much like he's a good coach and he should be in the mix, 235 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:28.919 and if he gets the job, it's a very understandable higher and it may 236 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.039 work out really well. But I think even Nate Oates, who does not 237 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.159 have the resume right, he's still relatively new to the high level of college 238 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.080 basketball. That's a guy that I think is more so trending in the right 239 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.639 direction at the right time. And I don't know if he has like a 240 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.840 like his personality is not similar to what you see from Patino or cow, 241 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:52.960 but he's somebody that you know, it's almost like his his his prickishness, 242 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:54.799 if that makes sense. Kind of it stands out. Is that a word 243 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.320 thing I made that I know what I mean? Yeah, you know, 244 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:02.440 he just kind of has the present of somebody who would coach at a Kentucky 245 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:07.279 like school, yeah, oh yeah, and you know he would kind of 246 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:12.000 quietly be their guy. You know, they would watch the coach on the 247 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:17.279 sideline winning at a high level and feel like he does it. He represents 248 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:25.039 the fan base in a major way, and with Scott Drew him representing anybody 249 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.360 would be a good thing because he seems to be a very good man. 250 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.720 But this is entertainment, man, this is sports. This isn't you know. 251 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.399 You don't get scholarships and win championships based off your character. And you 252 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:38.840 know that's not to say you should be a bad person with bad character, 253 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:44.320 but you know what I mean. So we'll get into the whole flight tracker 254 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.919 stuff that I can't tell if there was really a plane in the air, 255 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.440 if there was, clearly Scott Drew wasn't on it, and if not, 256 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.159 why would they send somebody to fly to Kentucky to talk to him without him 257 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:57.799 being a part of it? Like I you know, I don't know, 258 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:02.240 And I'm convinced a lot of this stuff really shows and exposes that none of 259 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.000 us really know what's going on. Happened with the Louisville search, and I 260 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:07.799 think it's already happened a little bit here. And have you heard the story 261 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:14.039 about the uh about the restaurant? No? All right, So I'm gonna 262 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:15.960 do my best to get all the specifics of this to share it for those 263 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.200 who are not, you know, locked on their phone all day tracking this 264 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.079 stuff, which look, I'm sure a lot of you are, but some 265 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.720 of you probably can't because you're working or doing whatever it may be. But 266 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.119 Scott Drew whenever there were tweets coming out that he was on a plane on 267 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.799 his way to Lexington because there was a flight tracker update that showed a plane 268 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:37.799 leaving Waco, Texas to come to Lexington, which, let's be real, 269 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.079 that's not a coincidence, that's not I mean, that's that's the most that'd 270 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:45.240 be the most random flight ever on a day like this. But Scott Drew 271 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.359 I saw that and posted a picture of him eating in a Mexican restaurant in 272 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:55.160 Waco with I guess one of the big financial boosters or something from from you 273 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:56.440 know, he shouted out the guy who I don't know who it is, 274 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.079 but it's somebody that he went to get lunch with one on one. And 275 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.160 maybe he does it because he's, you know, assaulted the Earth kind of 276 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.359 guy, or maybe you know, he's trying to continue to have these relationships 277 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:10.440 with people who donate money to help him be successful. Well I'm kind of 278 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:15.279 I'm starting to call BS on it. Somebody claims they called the restaurant when 279 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:19.319 they figured out what restaurant it was, and told the lady who answered the 280 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.880 phone that I need you to tell Scott Drew that he needs to come to 281 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.400 Kentucky. And you know, apparently this lady, according to the guy who 282 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.160 told the story, and I would play the there's a clip of it, 283 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.559 and maybe we can maybe we can do some editing here because he cusses where 284 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.119 I can't play it. But he shares the story of telling her that, 285 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.640 and she had no clue who you're talking about, didn't knowho Scott Drew was. 286 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:42.519 And apparently she said, is somebody named Scott here? And he said 287 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:48.160 yeah, And the waitress handed the phone to him and he said hello. 288 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.799 And the fan said, coach, we need you to come to Kentucky. 289 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.319 And he laughed and said who is this? He said, I'm a Kentucky 290 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:56.599 fan. He said, all, well, that's pretty impressive and then hung 291 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:03.039 up the phone, like that's what coaching searches do to people, and I'm 292 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:08.960 one of them. You're so consumed and intoxicated with like the matt like the 293 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:17.640 unknown, that people just believe that and it could be true, but does 294 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.559 not sound realistic. Not to me, it doesn't. I mean that could 295 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:23.160 have happened, but also, like you know, I could easily see that 296 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:27.880 just being somebody taking advantage of what these coaching searches do to people, and 297 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:32.319 they just run with it. And that's why people started sharing like six thousand 298 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:37.200 shares on Facebook of Bob Huggins in a Louisville pullover, you know, from 299 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.640 buck Crack Sports. And who would think that an outlet named buck Crack Sports 300 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.400 would have real sources, But six thousand people shared it and they believed it, 301 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:51.240 Like that's what this stuff does to us. Like Billy Donovan, he 302 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.680 was in alecting yesterday. No, he wasn't. He was coaching the Bulls. 303 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:57.400 They played the Knicks. Like people just believe anything, and I'm not 304 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:00.759 trust me. This isn't a rivalry thing. We did the same thing as 305 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:03.960 Louisvill fans and I kind of love the chaos that comes with all of this. 306 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.039 But one thing I want to do before we get to our first break. 307 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.519 Right before we started the show, Dan Hurley was on with Colin Cowhart. 308 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.720 I don't know if people know that or not, and he addressed you 309 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.039 know, the rumor mill and I think if Kentucky fans were holding out hope 310 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:25.119 that like Dan Hurley was going to take the job and they were gonna throw 311 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:26.799 too much money at him, I'm gonna take him at his word with this 312 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.680 answer. This was again earlier this afternoon on Sports Talk seven ninety Dan Hurley 313 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:37.319 on with Colin Cowhart. You feel like Yukon, but you don't want schools 314 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:38.680 to take advantage of that, Right, You've got a big market if you 315 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:45.559 wanted to leave is would you ever have to What happens if somebody comes up 316 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.160 and just brings up a Brinks truck and then you have to go to your 317 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.039 boss and say, Okay, they gave me a zillion dollars. I like 318 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.480 what I make. Where are you on that? Because Dan, for the 319 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:59.480 next five years you're gonna hit fifty offers. How do you kind of reconcile 320 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:02.319 with the fact that you love where you're at, but you may have somebody 321 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:03.960 double what you're worth. Where are you on that? What do you do 322 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:11.359 with that? Yeah, it's flattering. I've come a long way since, 323 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:17.279 you know, being a high school coach fifteen years ago, and you know, 324 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.839 havn't had to kind of work my way up the ladder in the business 325 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.200 as a coach, the way coaches did it, you know, back a 326 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:30.400 long time ago. You know, it's certainly flattering, But I've got a 327 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:37.640 long career of turning down jobs or more money to stay in places that uh, 328 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:41.559 you know that I was happy and that fit me, and that you 329 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:47.519 know, provide me the resources to at that level achieve the things you want 330 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:52.359 to achieve. And I mean right now, and you can you know my 331 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.079 relationship with day Ben and what the place means to us. You know, 332 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:03.079 the opportunity to go for for for a three peat right now is it's the 333 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:08.559 only thing that is obviously on anyone's mind here. So I just can't see 334 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:15.319 that being a thing. I mean, that's not a Kentucky fans, shut 335 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.039 the hell up, leave me alone on Twitter. I'm not going to Kentucky. 336 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.400 But that I mean that that I think explains why he's like, he's 337 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.799 not interested. And you know, I know a lot of people hear that 338 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.720 and will say, well until twelve million a year. I you know, 339 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:36.440 I don't. I don't know if if if I mean if he would if 340 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.519 he would need that kind of money and he would turn it down. I 341 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:41.759 mean, I guess you could say you went out and got a guy that 342 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:47.759 is phenomenal, but I just at some point you've got to understand a guy 343 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:51.599 really isn't interested, even if you throw an insane amount of money where you 344 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.200 would just okay, this is for example. Clearly Danny Hurley would be a 345 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.200 better higher than Scott Drew right now, just because Danny Hurley's on top of 346 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:03.200 the world. However, there is something about hiring a guy who just truly 347 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.079 wants to be there, who also has a national championship on his resume, 348 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.720 who is a good coach and elite recruiter. Actually, so if Hurley turns 349 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:18.359 it down at ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen and you got him at 350 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:25.160 fourteen, he'd probably still crush it. But you know, I think Scott 351 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.640 Drew, if he does take the job, we'll enter it with a little 352 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:32.559 bit of a different approach than Danny Hurley. But either way, Danny Hurley's 353 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.480 better. And I don't want him to go to Kentucky, and I don't 354 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:37.920 believe you will, and I don't think anybody truly believes that. Honestly, 355 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.519 even Kentucky fans, to be fair, like, I know they want him 356 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.519 to be the coach. I've not heard any Kentucky fan claiming that, like 357 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:47.759 he's going to be the guy. He'll never turn us down because we're Kentucky. 358 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:49.440 Colin Coward said something really quick there, and now we got to go 359 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:56.759 to break about you're gonna get fifty job offers. At what point does Connecticut 360 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.119 get respect to where they don't come for their coach because Connecticut and they have 361 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.839 six championships since nineteen ninety nine, you know what I'm saying, Like when 362 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:08.319 when when Patino was crushing it at Louisville and cal Honestly until recently, nobody 363 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:12.160 was coming for those coaches because why would they leave? Why can't they say 364 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.079 that about Yukon. I guess it's got to because of money. But I 365 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.319 think Yukon will find whatever money in that state. I mean they may they 366 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:23.519 may charge a state tax to a residence to make sure that this man is 367 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.279 taking care of financially. All right, don't go anywhere, hang out with 368 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:32.000 us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety that's right, Coffee and Company rolling 369 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.000 along here on a Wednesday afternoon. We are fueled by Thorntons. Make sure 370 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.519 you sign up to become a member of the Thornton's Refreshming Awards program. If 371 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.839 you haven't already, and if you want to join us on the show, 372 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.400 you can five O two five seven seventy nine hundred is the number. And 373 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.279 if you want to text in the L and N Federal Credit Union tex Lin 374 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:49.400 five O two sixty five three zero seven ninety. We will get to some 375 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:55.559 Louisville stuff coming up here shortly, as Pat Kelsey has officially hired the coaches 376 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.960 from Charleston that we've discussed. I guess it was just a formality with the 377 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.400 press release, but we can get into that. And also there are some 378 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.240 visits scheduled this weekend. So thirteen scholarships to Phil when he took over, 379 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.319 he's already filled three of them, ten more to go, and there's a 380 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.119 couple of visitors that are going to be here that would be big additions, 381 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:18.440 no doubt. But if you are just now joining us, obviously the circus, 382 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:19.880 I don't even mean that as an insult. I got to find a 383 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.720 better word to describe it, because it's just it's been fun to follow the 384 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.640 I mean the Baylor fans coming at Kentucky right now, because you know, 385 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.559 they're letting him know, you're not taking our coach. We've got God on 386 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.599 our side, which I don't know if you think that's a factor in this, 387 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.440 but there that Baylor fans are claiming that that's why he won't leave. 388 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:41.440 And then you've got Arkansas fans who are just over the moon because they got 389 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.680 Caliperi and it didn't take long man. And we'll see what he says in 390 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.160 his press conference tonight. But in the article that I referenced earlier from The 391 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:53.480 Athletic, it was by Shampscherandia and Kyle Tucker. I mean, he's he's 392 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:57.039 already taken some shots, and you know, he's comfortable now letting it be 393 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.319 known that he tried to leave in twenty nineteen, but he could do it, 394 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.839 and he should have. And he's now acknowledging there'll be some nil support 395 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.480 already kind of built in, whereas at Kentucky he didn't have that. Now, 396 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:11.680 I don't know if he didn't have that because of bridges he burned with 397 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.359 certain donors and whatnot, But either way, I mean, I don't think 398 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.680 this is going to be a real friendly thing between the two sides. With 399 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.519 Cali Perry now in Fayetteville, and maybe that does something to the emotions of 400 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.519 Kentucky fans who want to remember like the good years of Caliperry. But at 401 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.519 the end of the day, this is entertainment, this is the sports, 402 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:34.799 and I would love for things to get superheated and contentious between the two. 403 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:37.680 All right, let's go to the phone line five two, five seven, 404 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.039 one seventy nine hundred. That is the number. Let's welcome in, Alex, 405 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.640 Alex. What's happening? Hey, buddy, is this the Alex? 406 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.759 Is this is this the Alex? I think it is. Yes, it 407 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.640 is. What's happening. Brother. As a somebody who's on all the razorback 408 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.680 fan pages and everything on all social media's, I can definitely say that Arkansas 409 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.960 fans are like over the moon as if Hunter cure Check, you know, 410 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:07.000 made the greatest hire in Arkansas history. For sure, And uh, for 411 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.240 me, I just I'm not I'm excited. It's definitely gonna be something that's 412 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.720 a historic moment in college basketball to go down forever. But if I'm going 413 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.960 to back up a truckload of money, I just don't think Cal is the 414 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.720 guy that I would want in there. But it's exciting. I think he's 415 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.000 gonna bring in some good players. But but yeah, for sure, the 416 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.160 Arkansas fan base is just over the moon. Let me ask you this, 417 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.880 Alex as a as a Arkansas fan, and I can't confirm he is an 418 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.799 Arkansas fan. You were at the game when Kentucky and Arkansas played earlier this 419 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.480 season, and it was a great game, an exciting finish. Yeah, 420 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.119 what if I would have told you then that this would happen? Must to 421 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.960 usc Caliperry leaving lexingon to go to Faateeville, Because it's one of those things 422 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.000 that I seeing the actual press release with the picture of him with a photoshopped 423 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.279 like you know, Arkansas maroon read whatever it is, like, it still 424 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.119 doesn't seem real. No, And if you would have said that to me 425 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.240 then I'd have the same kind of icky feeling that I do now. Just 426 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.440 it doesn't look right, doesn't feel right? Is it? More so because 427 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.880 that like it just it's been a while since he really had like some big 428 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.920 time momentum, like or you feel like maybe you're getting a guy that clearly 429 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.799 is a legend, but maybe you're getting him at the wrong time. Well, 430 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.960 it's Kentucky's coach, not Arkansas's coach. Yeah, fair enough. I 431 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.160 like that response. That's I like that. Yeah. Now do you know 432 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.599 many of Arkansas fans see it that way? No, I think they think 433 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.640 we hired you know, Nick Saban to coach football. Got it, you 434 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:30.960 know, But if you go back to that Kentucky Arkansas game, that was 435 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.559 one of the worst, That was maybe Mussa's worst team that he's put on 436 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.599 the court, and they just about stunt cows an overtime score and you know, 437 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.359 there's no defense at all in that game. Oh, Arkansas had like 438 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.200 eighty five points with ten minutes left. It was wild. What do you 439 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.839 think happened with Musk Because I'm a huge fan of his. I think I've 440 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.039 told you that many times, and I wish Louisville would have would have would 441 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.000 have went after him. And I mean, I know you're not currently living 442 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.039 in Fayetteville, but like, what what? How did it go? How 443 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.920 did it get so weird and bad quickly? Because within just a year's time, 444 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.599 he went from being I think a guy that was like the rising starr 445 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.400 in college basketball, bringing Fayetteville back. I mean, the Razorbacks became a 446 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.839 relevant program again, and people forgot like they used to be a big time 447 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.400 program back in the nineties, and then within a year's time, like it 448 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.200 was quite clear he just wanted to leave, and it didn't really seem like 449 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:23.319 Arkansas the administration was worried about stopping him from leaving US. There's Arkansas insiders 450 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.799 that were basically came out in January and they've got receipts on social media saying 451 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:33.119 Muscle ones out. I think he is a West Coast guy's mother's there and 452 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.240 you know she's not gonna be around forever. And as far as the season 453 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.359 goes, I had no idea, but it seemed like there was you know, 454 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.480 there was definitely issues in the locker room. I think he got a 455 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319 bunch of good independent players that he just couldn't scheme together to play well with 456 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.119 each other, and they couldn't most Okay, if you look at all muslimens 457 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.400 his his teams have never been big, splash, offensive teams that are gonna 458 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.359 shoot you out of the gym. There are always teams that are to be 459 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.599 played the toughest defense you've ever seen, and they did not have that at 460 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.200 all last year, and they were not shooting people out of the gym, 461 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.119 So I don't know if it's a personnel thing. I know there was rumors 462 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.640 of beat between players, blah blah blah, but I couldn't tell you for 463 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.039 sure. Yeah, I think I think. You know, anytime you rely 464 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.559 heavily on the portal, I mean, and you should this day and age, 465 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.200 you just you run a risk at times where maybe the pieces just don't 466 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.160 quite fit together. Because you're right, His teams that are their best are 467 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.640 just dogs, defensively long athletic, and they're just at times gonna you know, 468 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.039 they're gonna stop you in on offense, they'll just at times make plays 469 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.599 because they got better athletes than you. But yeah, I was. It 470 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.200 was crazy. If you told me a year ago that that that this whole 471 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.720 scenario from top to bottom would have played out the way that it did, 472 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.880 I would have I would have never believed it. But Alex, I need 473 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.200 to do something for me cause Cal's gonna talk tonight at I think seven Eastern, 474 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.079 and I'm sure you're gonna maybe listen to the whole thing or maybe find 475 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.319 clips of it. I need to know, like, does he does your 476 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.839 mind change a little bit about this? Because he's a really good talker man 477 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.319 like he's one of the best that can just start spewing whatever. It'll probably 478 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.880 be nonsense, but it seems like the majority of the fan base has already 479 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.119 eaten out of eating out the palm of his hand. I feel like after 480 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.039 he talks tonight, it's gonna be like the you're gonna want to wish you 481 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:12.359 were back in Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, which in this so it's I 482 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:17.200 don't know what they offered these other coaches that they talked to, but for 483 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.599 sure, if you'd asked me the day Musk left, you know, if 484 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:22.839 if Caliperry would have been a good hire, I would have thought no. 485 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.119 But it seemed like the longer the search went, and we have zero scholarship 486 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.200 athletes at the University of Arkansas right now, we have no incoming freshman. 487 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.039 Uh so it was getting pretty dark in Fateville. And I think Hunter since 488 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.119 that, and I think that's maybe when he started talking to Tyson there. 489 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.000 I don't know how it went, but the night that it kind of broke, 490 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.599 uh, you know, I think it was it was probably the best 491 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.920 thing Hunter Yurchik could have done. At that point. He looks like a 492 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.559 he looks like a rock star now because he pulled off something that a lot 493 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.559 of people. If you'd have said even just a week ago, they would 494 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.240 have said, there's no way possible. So Alex, I appreciate you calling 495 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.000 in. Good at talk to you, brother, let me know, keep 496 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.880 me up there. I want to I want to see how you're how you're 497 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.599 feeling about cal after this press conference. Okay, hopefully we'll see a brand 498 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.680 new Calfary. Maybe he's reinvigorated and ready to heurge something to Kentucky. Thanks 499 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.480 brother, I appreciate it. Yeah, that's it's my buddy, Alex. 500 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.400 He's a he's a big time Razorbacks fan. And when he said that like 501 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.759 it was, it was when he said a lot of things. There was 502 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.000 a really good conversation. But and it's good to hear perspective from that side 503 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.640 of it. But he said he's Kentucky's coach, He's not Arkansas's coach. 504 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.920 I felt that. That makes sense, Like I felt that, And I 505 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.559 know there probably were I don't know, maybe not. I can't speak for 506 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.119 anybody, And it was so long ago, but like when Rick Patino came 507 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.640 to Louisville, I'm sure if the internet was if the internet was then what 508 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.160 it is if the internet was was alive like it is now back then, 509 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.400 as far as just people being able to share opinions at any moment with their 510 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.200 phones and social media and all that, I think there probably would have been 511 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.759 Louisville fans initially that were like, oh, this feels gross, this is 512 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.359 weird. I don't like this. And that's a different level because it's a 513 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:04.839 rival, but still like Arkansas, Arkansas fans hated Calipari in Kentucky understandably so, 514 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.319 like they care about basketball as much as anybody in that league outside of 515 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.000 Kentucky. So I'm sure though after a while you realize, wait a second, 516 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.480 we're getting like an elite coach, Like we're gonna be back. And 517 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.799 that's what happened with Louisvill. Rick Petino gave you that, and Calipari is 518 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.039 gonna give them that as far as just an instant boost and notoriety, and 519 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.799 heck, the fact that this played out the way it did is already giving 520 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.960 them a lot of attention. And then if he comes in there and he 521 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.000 starts putting together a big roster, and you know, he gets a lot 522 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.480 of transfers. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna benefit from it, no 523 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.960 doubt. I remember, in fact, I was in the car with my 524 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.480 dad. I was how old was I then Rick Patino got hired, I 525 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.880 believe in like, let me see here. I think it was in two 526 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.759 thousand, because I think two thousand and one was his first action, like 527 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.000 the two thousand and two thousand and one was his first season at Louisville. 528 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.640 Yeah, it's like he's right around two thousand. I think I was in 529 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.279 like six grade. I remember being in the car with my dad and they 530 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:07.280 were talking about it on the radio that Patino was coming Louisville, And I 531 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:13.320 remember asking my dad like what really like and and you know he said he 532 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.880 just gave me an answer like yeah. And I didn't get a sense from 533 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.760 his demeanor or the way he said it like if that he was he felt 534 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.840 good about it or not. And then sure enough I was like is this 535 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.920 good? And he was like yeah, and you know he was right. 536 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:35.320 So we're so obsessed with these college teams that we care so much. I 537 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.039 mean, it's just crazy. What this does to his college sports is amazing 538 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.519 and there's nothing like it, man, And I find the differences in the 539 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.559 college game with things like this, coaching searches and fan bases, message boards, 540 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:54.000 flight trackers, you know, celebrities who are fans of certain schools getting 541 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.480 in the weeds with internet trolls because they care so much. Like there's something 542 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.639 insanely awesome about that element of college sports. That's just you know, they're 543 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.199 making a lot of money. Now it's there's free agency season with the portal, 544 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.480 Like it really isn't pure, but I think the way people are so 545 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.840 passionate about it, it does give a level of purity that, like, 546 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:17.800 you know, makes it special. But maybe I'm just you know, trying 547 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.519 to romanticize something that I deeply care about that people don't care about. But 548 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.000 if you're listening to this show, would imagine you care in a major way. 549 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.840 All right, let's get to a quick time out. We'll come back 550 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.400 on the other side. We'll get to the text line, get back to 551 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:36.719 your phone calls, and also the updates to the staff for Pat Kelsey will 552 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.280 give you the specifics on that. No surprise. Again, it's names that 553 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.480 we've talked about since he was hired as far as you know, knowing they 554 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.880 were probably going to follow him and then We'll also keep you updated on the 555 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.400 list of visitors. I wouldn't be shocked by the time we get to this 556 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.880 weekend there's another visitor too added. But you know the job, the task 557 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.519 at hand now for Pat Kelsey is filling out this roster. And it sounds 558 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.920 like this weekend could be a big weekend. And get that. You know, 559 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.840 not done because you've got a lot of work to do, but a 560 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.440 big step in that process. So stick with us again at his Coffee and 561 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.320 Company. We are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 562 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.000 It could get repetitive. But if you played Chris Stapleton every time we came 563 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.159 back from a commercial break, I think I'd I think I'd be fine with 564 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.920 it. I don't even know this song, but it's great. Hits. 565 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.559 It hits because because it's him, he's great. We did have somebody earlier 566 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:29.000 on the on the text line whenever I was discussing how Cad Drew is a 567 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:34.000 nice man and a good coach, recruits at at an elite level and he 568 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.440 is an accomplished coach, Like can't I can't sit here and act like Kentucky's 569 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.239 hiring a guy that is not great if they hire him, if that's who 570 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.960 it ends up being, and if you consider just like the realistic pool like, 571 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.400 there's really no I don't think there should be a whole lot of criticism 572 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.440 towards it. But the one thing that I like is knowing that this is 573 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.880 not a guy that's going to be you know, he'll be a good villain 574 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.679 in a way, but at the same time, like you know, he 575 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.760 isn't cal and he isn't Patino. And I mentioned those guys specifically because I 576 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.280 feel Queen Kentucky was at its very best. It was when those two guys 577 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:05.119 were there. Now, I know, obviously way back in the day, 578 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.639 but I mean I can't I can't discuss Adolph Rupp and Joby Hall. I 579 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:13.679 mean that was long before I was even thought of. So Scott Drew's kind 580 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.400 of a boring guy, but that there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, 581 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.599 I'm probably a boring guy in the eyes of most. But somebody asked 582 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.519 me if this is a text the camm in said, nigg, are you 583 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.920 basically saying that Scott Drew has low t I'm not saying he does. It 584 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.599 is not I won't speak on that, but I do know that if he 585 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.480 does have low T. In fact, I may. I guess I will, 586 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.760 because they're you know, they're a client, they're a partner, and 587 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.159 any business I can give them will be good. It probably would be good 588 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.760 for their brand if they have the Kentucky basketball coach seeking treatment for low T. 589 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.320 But I don't need him having good tea. I need him having low 590 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.119 T if he's the Kentucky coach. But either way, because of my love 591 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.679 for the Louisville Men's Clinic, I'll pass. I'll pass the information along to 592 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.400 Scott Drew if he needs it, because loile Mence Clinic can help you when 593 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.440 it comes to low testosterone, a rectil edis function. I mean, it 594 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.800 could be weight loss. They've got programs they can help you lose weight. 595 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:14.239 Maybe it's hair restoration. Just think about things that could help you become a 596 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.559 healthier and happier man. And a lot of men, you know, they're 597 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.599 tough guys, they don't need help. They're fine. They're manly men, 598 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.760 fair enough. But also you know, regardless of how much you are a 599 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.400 manly man, you can get hit with a rectilus function or low testosterone, 600 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.679 not because of anything that you've done wrong. It's just life, So do 601 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.719 something about it. And I know there are many that have listened to this 602 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.920 and just thought, yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. Well 603 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.280 you may not even realize how much happier and healthier you could be. That 604 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.000 was me. I mean I knew, like, hey, something's just not 605 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.360 adding up here. And I knew we had a great relationship already with the 606 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.360 fine folks at the Little Men's Clinic, So I thought, well, you 607 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.719 know, might as well give them a call, talk to them, kind 608 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.159 of tell them of some symptoms that I have, maybe something that I've noticed. 609 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.440 And they checked my levels for testosterone and I was low, and now 610 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:10.559 I'm not, and I feel amazing. In fact, I got some numbers 611 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.800 to brag on. I mean, this is not me bragging on me. 612 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.480 It's about me bragging on the fine friends that I have over there at the 613 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.119 Little Men's Clinic. So I went and got you know what, not only 614 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:22.960 just like a check up at the doctor, but were they like, do 615 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:24.639 you like your b and I that kind of stuff. You know what I'm 616 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.320 talking about, right, John? Like your vitals? Yeah? Well no, 617 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.639 no, no, like you're like your percentage of body fat that kind 618 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:31.800 of stuff. Oh, your body mass. Yeah, that kind of stuff. 619 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.480 And you know, sure enough, I ended up having like, for 620 00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.119 example, my body fat mass. And this is not to like say that 621 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.920 I'm like shredded, because I'm not. But in January, my body fat 622 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.159 mass was like fifty something. Now it's forty. My muscle mass was around 623 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:58.480 like sixty. Now it's seventy eight. So that's from no longer having low 624 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.840 testosterone because of the testosterone treatment that I'm doing. But I'm also just doing 625 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.639 the same workouts. I'm doing the same like. It's not like I'm in 626 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.440 the gym every day, you know, crushing it for two hours. I'm 627 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.360 just trying to exercise to be healthy, and now that my testosterone is where 628 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.480 it should be, I'm seeing the benefits of that. I'm not kid you, 629 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.280 there could be you would never even You may never even know until you 630 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.599 go get it looked at. So go check him out Lola Men's Clinic dot 631 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.159 com. That's the website. Five O two four four four four thousand is 632 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.480 the number. So coming up here at four h five, We're going to 633 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.000 talk to our man, mister Kent Spencer from WHAS eleven and get his thoughts 634 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:36.719 on the wild last few days we've had here as Kentucky has lost their coach 635 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.039 and it's probably not something that they're sad about. He's going to Arkansas and 636 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.320 now it looks as if they're going to go higher Scott Drew. We'll see, 637 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:46.039 but real quick before we get to our top of the hour break, 638 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:52.199 here the updates to Pat Kelsey's staff. Brian Clohman his right hand man, 639 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.840 a guy that's been with him for every step of the way at both Charleston 640 00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:00.079 and Winthrop. He's going to be your top assistant. I don't know if 641 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.039 there's I don't think there's any title as far as associate head coach or anything 642 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.119 like that, but he's he's he's the right hand man, a guy that's 643 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:07.440 been with him every step of the way since he's been a head coach. 644 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.000 Ronnie Hamilton is a guy that was announced earlier that well, it was reported 645 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.800 earlier this week, made official today. He was an assistant at LSU for 646 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.039 the last two seasons. So he's the only staffer that has been added. 647 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.119 It was not somebody that worked with Pat Kelsey previously, and I'm still learning 648 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.960 a little bit about him. He actually played at Duke, but not basketball 649 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.440 football kind of wild, but he helped with some big recruiting classes for ole 650 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.440 Miss when he was there prior to going to LSU. And then Thomas Carr 651 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.280 is a is a new staffer who I think was just only on the staff 652 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:44.440 with Kelsey for maybe one year, but very much involved in the AAU circuit 653 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:49.320 prior to this was a prep school coach. I think Word of God Academy. 654 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.440 You know, he's he's been on the Adida circuit. This is a 655 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.159 guy that has been a part of some of the bigger AAU programs on the 656 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.199 a on the Adida circuit, which is goodnsidering. Louisville in fact is an 657 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.880 Adidas school. But Freddie DeLeon I think that's his name, Frankie Deleone, 658 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.199 the transfer from Tennessee, former top fifty guard who's in the portal. That's 659 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.679 the connection here. Thomas Carr was that Word of God for a while before 660 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.079 two years ago before he got to Charleston, and that is where Deleone, 661 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.599 the transfer from Tennessee, played its prep ball. So that's the connection. 662 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:22.719 I'm not sure if that means Thorval was going to get him, but that 663 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.280 is I think why that I think there's some people in the recruiting world predicting 664 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.480 that he ends up he ends up coming to LOUISVI, which would be great, 665 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.199 really talented guard who just couldn't get on the floor last year at Tennessee 666 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.679 because you know, they had some really really good players. And then Eli 667 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.039 Foy is going to be the strengthening editioning coach. He was the director of 668 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:46.920 sports performance at Charleston for three seasons with Kelsey, and apparently he had previously 669 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.840 worked at Arizona, and I don't know if he was like the personal trainer, 670 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.559 but he's a guy who during the one year that DeAndre eight and was 671 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:58.039 at Arizona and when DeAndre eighton was getting prepared to go to the NBA, 672 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.800 like this was this guy that worked him out. And he apparently has a 673 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.559 pretty good reputation in that world of you know, strength and conditioning. So 674 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.320 these are all names we've talked about, I guess outside of the of the 675 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.519 newest, which was Ronnie Hamilton. That's the name that I probably haven't mentioned 676 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.840 in the last couple of days, but it did. It did get out 677 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.840 by I think Jeff Goodman. Then he was going to be joining Kelsey so 678 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.519 slowly but surely the staff's coming together and then they'll be putting the roster together 679 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.239 here soon, and we'll talk about this in the four o'clock hour. The 680 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.719 visitors expected this weekend, which I feel like this, well, I guess 681 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.519 Fats visited and then of course, you know, committed, but like this 682 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.400 is the first time that like he's hosting a trio of visitors, which is 683 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.039 exciting. Right, don't go anywhere. We got two hours left, and 684 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.599 who knows, maybe some big news breaks in these next couple of hours. 685 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.800 Keep it locked right here. Coffee and Company. 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