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Back by popular demand. It's uh
the air pointing down podcasts. It's uh,

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February twenty fourth. I'm Ryan Davis. I am joined by TV's own

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Jeff Gerstman. Hello, Ryan Davis, And also sitting on the other side

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of the couch is Alex Navarro.
Alex, what's up. I'm not TV's

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Alex Navar. You're not TV's Alex
Navarro. They've ever been on television.

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I've never been on television at all, not even like background shot. It's

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like during a news not that I'm
aware of. No, No, I'm

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pretty sure that's never happened. He's
the man with a face for radio.

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So kind of problem dude. So
yeah, Hey, hey guys, what's

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up? Not much, just still
glad we got all this stuff set up.

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It's like we're kind of comically sprawled
out across my living room here.

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Yeah. I like that. You're
let's let's I want to paint a word

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picture for the folks at home.
Uh. We're in Jeff's living room right

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now recording this. I'm so in
person this time. Yeah. Uh.

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Jeff has a large L shaped couch, very very luxurious. It's sleep seven.

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It does it's a sweet ninety degree
angle. I slept on it last

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night. It was fantastic. And
uh, I'm sitting on one extreme end

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of it. And there's a little
they like a little separate seat things.

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I'm gonna bust out my totally do
enjoy it now, all right, my

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feet are up now for a reason. Alex is basically sitting at the other

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side of the angle from me.
Also, pillows for arm rests. I've

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got I've got a dale. Uh
you know number three cars number three,

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man, number three, I've got
an intend before people think it, so

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there's actually a pillow shaped like the
number three car. Note ear's head,

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No, which would be better?
Is it shaped like a cut seat belt?

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Oh? It's man like cut the
intimidator seat belt. Man. Everybody

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knows it. He was too good
man. They had to They had to

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do him. And then in the
other corner of the room, Jeff has

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a big professional Chinese microphone set up. This is a sick, sick Chinese

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mic uh with complete with pop screen
and everything. And he's standing there like

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an R and B singer of some
kind. Yeah, I'm standing here here.

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You want me to put like a
hand over an ear here? So

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I can can you can you do
the thing with the one hand where you

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hold it up at different points next
to your head and you didn't get It's

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like, great the studio with Diddy
right now, I'm making the band four

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or something. Yeah, so I'll
just do like hip hop ad libs the

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whole I like, I won't say
anything. Yeah, er pointed out,

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Yeah, yeah, girl, huh
damn. So that's uh, that's that's

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the setup in the room here.
Now that now we had this meeting of

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the minds. Uh, what do
we what do we want to talk about?

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I guess nothing, dude, I
don't know. No, Yeah,

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we don't. We just end this
now. Yeah, that's back up.

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Hey that was That was the second
episode of Air Pointing Down podcast. Thanks

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for it was pretty awesome. Yeah, really interesting perspective on stuff. I'm

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really glad you brought a lot to
the table. And h I think we're

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all better off having heard it.
Fantastic. Uh, and I'm I'm also

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just to continue painting the picture.
Here. I'm drinking a delicious Paps blue

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ribbon even quality quality beer. I've
got a Cherry coke over here. It's

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like coke but cherry. I've got
a diet pepsi. It's like a coke

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but pepsi. Jeff, you've also
got a candy bar over there? You

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want to talk about that? I
do. Yeah, I picked this up.

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I picked this up at a Walmart
recently and just haven't gotten around to

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eating it. It is a Snicker's
nut and butter crunch, which is it

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says it as limited editions, So
I should probably shouldn't even be touching this

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because it's not mint anymore. No, I see red wrapper on that.

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It's reminding me a lot of the
peanut butter Snicker's bar. Yeah, do

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you think this is just the same
damn thing? Milk, chocolate, peanuts

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and creamy peanut butter taste is what
it says here where did derive from?

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What? Though? Yeah, it's
a peanut butter taste. It it tastes

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like peanut butter. It is not
peanut butter, but it is still creamy.

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That's that's peanut butter. Would be
very similar to the beverage I had

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last night? A did you have
a peanut butter beverage? Last? Have

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you seen? Have you seen this
at the at the seven eleven that it's

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a slurpy Chino. No, it's
a it's a coffee flavored slurpy drink that

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sounds kind of haunting. Yeah,
I went to that. I went to

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the seven eleven last night and saw
that and said, well, I gotta

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try that. How was it?
Uh? I think Jeff can back this

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up. He had a little taste
of it. It's it's a slurpy.

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It tastes and looks like a slurpy. It's not like they like turned the

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slurping machine into a frappuccino machine.
Well, thank god for that, and

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so and it's sweet in the way
that a slurpy is. It's that kind

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of syrupy, sugary sweetness right right. But then at the end there's this

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little surprise. This little man jumps
up and says, hey, it's also

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coffee. Coffee kind of tastes like
coffee, but it kind of like in

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a really weird synthetic way. Right. Yeah, it's like it's like coffee

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chemicals. They've distilled it down,
like when when we're all eating pills and

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we live on the moon base.
Uh, this is what, well,

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this is what all our food will
taste like. I I envisioned that little

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man sort of being dressed in like
a like an eighteen hundred sort of you

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know, eight British guy kind of
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outfit, but also have them kind
of a steampunk athetic aesthetic to him,

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you know, like those guys are
at GDC want steam punk very big.

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Yeah, it's very hot right now. Yeah, but having a very having

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an eleven an Elvin voice. Yes, back in the Future three is very

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hot right now, very hot.
It's a great movie. That doesn't that

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isn't that basically the origination didn't didn't
Martin Fly invent steampunk? Is that?

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I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna
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want to get to to to derailed
there with the slurpy thing. Jeff,

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you want to get this open and
try the Snickers here. Now. The

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other thing is there's also Snickers.
Oh what is it called. There's an

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energy Snickers Oh, yes, the
charge charge, not just Snickers energy.

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Yeah, no, no. And
they basically took like the ingredients of a

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red Bull and somehow fitted into a
Snicker's bar, which makes it taste like

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a Snicker's bar, except then on
the back end it's sort of like your

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your slur Paccino story there on the
back end of a energy Snickers is like

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horrible chemical like like you're okay,
you know what how chewing caffeinated gum tastes

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like yeah, it's that kind of
that weird taste back to your mouth.

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Yeah, imagine that in candy bar
form. Okay, we're gonna smell the

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Snickers. Okay, smells like chocolate. Doesn't really smell any different than a

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regular snick. So far, let's
let's let's let's see it. That looks

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like a snick, looks like a
Snicker's bar. So far, so good.

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Let's jump in first, bite hard? Uh huh? Where you keeping

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it somewhere cold? Or well this
house my house, that's rights. Yeah.

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Another point very worth making, I
think, is that it is freezing

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damn cold in Jeff's house because it's
heat or broke my heat or broke it

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doesn't work. Oh wow, okay
that's what whis. Also why Jeff is

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wearing the sweet neck thing that he
has on. I'm just warning that so

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I can pull it up like I'm
a ninja. That's true, All right,

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Bite one, Jeff, You're you're
into it tastes like a Snicker's bar.

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Yeah, I mean that's kind of
the My issue with this concept is

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Snickers bars are peanut peanut ea inherently
like is it like is it sweeter kind

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of thing on the on the on
the under end, there is there is

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there a greater intensity of peanutness.
No, okay, so it's really not

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getting So basically it's a Snicker's bar. It tastes like a not very not

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a great. It tastes like a
subpar Snicker's bar. Huh, you bother

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said a regular story. You didn't
buy this at the grocery outlet or something.

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No, no, this is not
used food. This at a Walmart.

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Okay, America shops at Walmart.
Jack, it's t box stores.

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Oh yeah, keep him out.
Eccentrics. Don't even get me started.

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I think I just did wait on
what on keeping Petaluma egg eccentric egg centric?

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Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot
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big box stores to come in and
drive out our local flavor. They instead

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want to force us all to leave
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Yeah, that isn't a Didgerido or
a Fedora. Well, you know,

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whenever I need I know where to
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So so we're gonna pan the this
this what's it called again? The

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Snickers nut butter crunch? I guess
you know, yeah, it doesn't tell

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you spell it out for me,
please, I want to know the exact

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spelling of this. I want to
know how how the marketing team attacked this

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one and ut apostrophe? N right, butter crunch is is butter separate from

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the nutting? Yes, it's on
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lowercase. And now butter crunch is
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butter and crunch. Okay's three words, three word phrase here forward phrase.

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I guess with the Snickers on the
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yeah, so peanuts, so Snickers
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of like those peanut butter Snickers that
they would try to come out with,

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but not quite as peanut buttery.
I guess, alright, so they try

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to strike a middle road, and
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It fails to differentiate itself. It
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shooter of candy bars. Okay,
no watching McCall, that's for damn sure.

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Now what is I love a watching
mccolloges. Yeah, I still love

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an Abba Zabba. I feel absolutely
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is kind of like the lesser known
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Hunk, which is quite tasty.
It's like an Abba Zabba, but with

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just like nuts in it instead of
like the peanut butter seven had a big

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hunk in a long time, like
a good big hunk. Would you step

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to the punk with a big hunk? I don't know what that means,

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slap it from his hands as he
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Uh So. So there there's our
our air pointing down food minute.

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So we're get into our next topic. I actually wanted to I guess this.

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I'll use this as a segue into
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it's the air pointing down drink minute. Yeah. Now it's the air pointing

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down beverage taste test minute, which
we've already established as being a core part

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of the show. Blue Ribbon is
Delicious, which people which people also really

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excited about. Yeah, a lot
of really great feedback. Pretty much everyone's

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like, yes, please more.
After our lengthy Gatorade Tigers. I guess

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before we get in at New Territory, we should briefly touch on last week's

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Gatorade Tiger. Oh yes, yes, okay, yeah, let's let's let's

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I was not here for this,
but wrap that some So last week we

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I discovered the Gatorade Tiger, three
flavors of Gatorade branded with Tiger Woods and

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tried tried them out on the air, and I found out like the red

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which we discovered as Red Dry,
Red Dry. Jeff, after we finished

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recording that, your your interest was
peaked, Oh for sure. Yes,

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I am a beverage enthusiast and had
to immediately get out there and find some

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of this stuff. I couldn't find
it in the convenience door or gas station.

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Environment had to actually go to a
supermarket to get it. Anyway,

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I got one of each flavor and
tried them, and I think I'm with

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you in that the citrus flavor is
my least favorite, and the grape is

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is great, and the Red Red
Drive Red Drive is really though, I

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think the standout flavor of the three
because it is the most unique. Yes,

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yes, that's we we did that
last week, Jeff Glad you were

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able to say, get on boarding. Are you gonna be drinking the Gatorade

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Tiger on a regular basis? You
think, well, it's like they're selling

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the big bottles of it for a
dollar apiece right now. And I was

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thinking about, Yeah, I was
thinking about just stalking up on a bunch

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of those while they're all introductory,
because I do I'll do like a Gatorade

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now and then. I'm just thinking, if you keep talking about it,

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maybe they'll just send you some The
good people at Gatorade, it's maybe you

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know you are promoting. They're fine
product. We're not being paid to talk

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about Gatorade. We just enjoy Gatorade. We enjoy electrolytes. But that does

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not mean you should not parlay your
love of Gatorade and to get in some

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free game. My love of Gatorade
is not for sale. Sir, Jeff

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has very strong Gatorade integrity, his
drink integrity. It's admirable. It's very

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admirable. Thank you, Thank you, Jeff. I want to know I

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really respect you for that. Hey. Thanks, all right, So,

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so last week was Gatorade. This
week, I guess I should talk about

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the time in between GDC Game Developers
Conference two thousand and eight happened this past

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week, and we all went and
kind of kicked it and had some fun,

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saw some stuff, saw some people. I think it was alex degree

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generally a productive indeed, quite and
really fun. Yeah, a lot of

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fun. It was. It was
surprising how interesting some of the stuff that

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went on at that show was,
especially considering you know, we got to

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go and just kind of do what
we wanted for the most part. Yeah,

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it's kind of a big change of
pace for us. Absolutely. So.

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One of the things that's that was
kind of an odd thing at the

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show was when I went into get
registered for as AS media and get my

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badge and everything. They gave you
this little black tote and it as uh,

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you know, scheduling information about you
know, when sessions going on,

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maps, brochure INMPO, about like
the sponsors and stuff. Yeah, brochure

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stuff, stuff for g DC Paris, and stuff for a Tokyo Game Show.

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TGS boot space booking up now they're
there. You gotta order by June

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if you want a TGS booth.
All right, we need to get our

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TGS booth set up. Yeah for
sure, all right, I'm just gonna

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get my own and then just sleep
in there the entire show. That's cool,

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just say American man sleep and then
have it have the no camera sign

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and I'll just stand out front and
make X signs with my hands. No,

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no date, no date. Also
in that tote, in that very

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in that lovely tote was a ping
pong ball. Yes, okay, which

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was I did? I never figured
out why that was there. It had

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something, It had some some some
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And then also, uh, this
little bottle of terrifying drink. Yeah,

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six hour energy Mini Thin Rush dietary
supplement. It offers instant energy, no

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crash, sugar free and less than
one carb. Now let me it's actually

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the Mini Thin brand on there.
Yeah, it is as in like the

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asthma medication that you that truckers take, stay awake when you kids, real

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speed or whatever. Now let me
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bit. I have experience with the
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it is the one time I ever
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what I could only describe as a
psychotic break. So, yeah, I

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can see you. You don't need
many things. No, well, I

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needed them because I had been up
at twenty four hours at the time,

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so I needed them to perfect to
not die essentially. Well, then that

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just pushes you over the edge.
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is dangerous in every possible way.
I'm pretty sure I've had a manything experience,

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and it was it basically led to
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I had to just like sit still
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was like I just so fast that
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dy three that everyone was spun out
of their mind on stuff. So I'm

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gonna I'm gonna go ahead and and
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claims to be Verry flavored. Well, all right, that sounds delicious.

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So it says shake. Well,
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the ability to separate right now.
To be fair, I've tried this,

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okay, Well, I had mine
on Friday, or I had a couple

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of them, so I took one
on Friday. Hold, let's let's hold

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all a pinion on this until after
I get into this. I sha'n't spoil

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it for anyone. I want to. I want to get an unbiased,

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you know, reaction. I was
gonna say, Jeff, thank you for

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holding my mic. All right,
we're racking it open. You can you

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can go ahead and commentate now here. I'll do the play by pay.

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So he's opening it up, he's
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wrapper on the end. It's like
a plastic shrink rap rapper. Oh,

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and then you just take the whole
wrapper off. All right, it's beautiful.

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Now it's a white bottle, is
an innocuous white bottle that clearly is

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not dangerous or just it's actually it's
actually h hand low shit, and my

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hands get really dry. All right, So let's have a little sniff.

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Smells kind of like a kool aid, like fruit punch kool aid. Okay

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is the initial Yeah, yeah,
you can get a little bit of that.

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Yeah, Jeff, you're standing up. You're good. Searo that in

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a snifter before you you take a
shot of that. No, that's that's

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plenty of now, Alex, you
have had previous experience with this. Should

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I just try and throw it back
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I started sipping it and it was
not good, So I just I

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shot the whole thing. I'm gonna
sip it, all right. Yeah,

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I'm gonna go with my my.
Uh. Actually, you know what,

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it tastes like sugar free kool Aid, like the fruit punch flavor. Yeah.

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Uh, actually not that strong a
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of kick me in the teeth a
little bit. You expect it to be

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way more like acidic. Yeah,
Jeff, you want to get this to

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go? No, No, I
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I'm gonna I'm gonna guzzle the rest
of this back down. Thanks for

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holding my Mike, Jeff, appreciate
it. All right, Here we go

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one, two, three, Oh, okay, all the chemicals were on

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the bottom, weren't they. Wait
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Oh that's really bad. You should
have shook weller. Oh yeah,

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I didn't want to spoil that for
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is I think I said that.
It was just sort of like,

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oh, this is so bad,
and then I just choked it and I

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was like, oh God, what
have I done. It's like ground up

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pills at the bottom of it.
Yeah. Let me give you a little

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preview of what you're what's the store
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No, essentially, this is not
as bad the trip to the hospital.

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We'll get your stomach pumped. This
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taking many things. But for the
early few hours at least, you will

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be a bit manic. I mean
not that people most people can tell when

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I'm manic and not manic, but
I was. I was getting a little

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fucking crazy toward the middle of the
day. And after that. Yeah,

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there is no crash. You will
not crash from this, but you will

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sort of come to a sort of
a gentle slope downward to where you just

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start getting very sleepy afterward. All
right, So well, I kind of,

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you know, I last night was
a little long, so I could

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use a little little little boost,
a little bump right now. So that's

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uh, yeah, you're gonna be
You're gonna be good for the next few

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hours at least. Well, fantastic
good podcasts gonna going forever. No,

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keep talking about things. Stop hitting
me. Uh, we want to talk

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you guys, want to talk to
any specifically about about stuff we did at

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g DC. Jeff I, you
and I have kind of covered this stuff

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a little bit on our blogs.
Yeah, I think we'd we documented a

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lot of that stuff. You know, we just kind of ran around and

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uh and had a good time.
I feel like we made a good set

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of choices on which sessions to go
watch and saw some interesting stuff. And

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the kind of nightlife afterward was was
interesting and productive and full of open bars

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and that sort of thing. I
kind of felt like it was a Thursday

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night, which is kind of second
night of the show proper. Yeah,

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there was there Monday and Tuesday.
There was stuff too, but that didn't

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really count. Uh, just like
crazy amounts of parties. Yeah, yeah,

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they call it Sweet Night. And
at the hotel there near the convention

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center, like basically every single suite
on a certain floor had been rented out

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by a different company and they were
all running parties. But it seemed like

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the only one I heard anyone talking
about was the Prototype party. Two K

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had a Sweet there, IDAs had
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but that was and we made it
into the protype party, which then

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got like fire marshaled and they weren't
allowing more people. Yeah, basically what

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happened is like the Will Write EA
talk was a couple of blocks away and

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then that kind of spun down and
they started charging people for drinks, which

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is a clear sign that it's time
to leave. Yeah, so everyone kind

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of just like I remember, like
like Sam Kennedy showed up like after everything

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was kind of dissipating. He's like, yeah, I just came by here

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and I don't know, We're gonna
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And I was like, oh,
where's that. There's a the W

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Like all right, all right,
ran over found you know, found Jehan

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Carlo and and you are like,
what are we gonna do? It's like

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we're going to w H Yeah,
And then it was absolutely crazy that night.

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I felt like I was in some
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I'm just walking down the street towards
the Will Write thing. It's like,

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oh, there's Gabe Newell walking down
the street. This guy made Half Live

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just kind of trucking along with its
posse. And then we go it's like,

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oh, it's Will right, He's
staying there talking to us about all

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sorts of crazy stuff. Yeah,
the Will Write talk. There's audio of

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it. And I know like they
had they had a camera stand. They

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had a camera stand, and I
saw like four or five cameras up there.

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I don't know what people are doing
with that footage, but his talk

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was very clearly videotaped, which is
the right way to see it. The

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audio will do a decent job,
but without kind of seeing the power point

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presentation that goes with it, which
which was kind of charmingly handmade. Yeah,

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definitely, it was. It was
a very adore power point present those.

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It was clever and everything, and
it was it was you know,

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it fit the talk, but it
was it was odd kind of just the

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how how cut and paste, Like
you could tell that well Wright did not

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have his power point person do this, like, well, right, is

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that down? I'm not gonna waste
your time with this stuff, and that's

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my talk I'm gonna do. That's
why everyone loves well write. I mean

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I was talking to a friend of
mine and she's like, I just I

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want him to be my dad,
you know, like he's just he's just

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that so lovable. I see him
more as kind of a fun uncle.

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Yeah, yeah, fun uncle who
knows lots of weird stuff. Totally.

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Uh So that was that was absolutely
a blast. If you could find that

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online, either the audio or the
video wherever that is. I guess I'll

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try and find try and hunt that
down and give people links for that stuff.

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Yeah, there's only to the audio
in somewhere in one of the comments

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on my blog. That's right,
I'll go dredge something up and I'll post

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that in this in this uh the
post for this now, from what I

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hear, we never actually went to
the craziest party of the entire show,

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Like none of us did. I
was. I was hanging out with a

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friend of mine last night and he
was saying, like there was like something

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he just referred to as the White
Wolf Party. Yeah, people kept talking

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about that, and I had heard
it. It was like in past years

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that it was lame, that it
was like they tried to make it be

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like the craziest GDC pot Well,
and the thing is, I think this

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year they I mean, they were
still trying way, way hard, but

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like it officially went over the edge
because it was at an S and M

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club. It's like and they have
like midgets and like fire fire and apparently,

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as my friend said, on the
way out, he saw people fucking

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on a couch, like just hanging
out and having sex on a couch.

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Well, at this party and there
was someone like sitting next to them while

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it was happening, looking very disturbed
and unhappy about the whole thing. And

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yeah, so we went to the
wrong parties essentially. That was. That

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was clearly where we Yeah, like
I remember like brief flashes of the prototype

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party. They had hot dogs there
and someone was like, white Wolf party

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is nigger girls. It was.
It was super loud at that that prototype

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thing. Yeah, super loud and
super pack and super super hot. Yeah,

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it was. It was fun.
And then also as I like when

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I was leaving the protype thing to
to get some damn air, uh so,

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Ken Levine just just times like walking
around his hair very spiky, extremely

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spiky hair on that man. Uh
So, yeah, that was. That

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was kind of Actually, do you
guys want to talk a little bit about

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Friday night? I didn't actually or
Friday at GDC. I didn't actually make

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it to the show for the third
day, thanks thanks to Thursday night.

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Yeah, I mean you drunk yourself
out of Friday, which is which I

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only feel like what I really missed
out on was hearing Eric will Paw talk

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about, uh, you know,
this story stuff and kind of doing the

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post post mortem on portal and that
was the best thing in the whole show,

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and you missed it. You know, I still think that that probably

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the will write thing. Yeah,
I still I still had the sense that

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that trumped it. I'm talking about
like dis as far as like the actual

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proper show goes. Oh yeah,
sure, yeah that was I saw.

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Yeah, I don't doubt it.
Yeah, it was good. I mean

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it was an interesting talk and Eric
will Pos, you know, a pretty

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good speaker, so it was looking
Kim Swift as well also, she she

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did fine job, and it was
a pretty compelling presentation. Not I mean,

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not a ton of information in there. It was more just like common

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sense stuff of like oh yeah,
why wouldn't you do it that way?

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But uh yeah, oh hey,
our our our special guest, our fourth

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fourth man is in the room,
special guest. How's it going. Yeah,

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yeah, cool, welcome. So
that that's kind of GDC in a

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nutshell, a lot of fun.
I guess it's it's but it's the kind

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of the conversation I was having with
with with other game writers out there is

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you know a lot of people being
frustrated, like trying to cover this,

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like this show in a conventional like
kind of product oriented well, because there

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really there wasn't a lot of games
to be played or to be seen,

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like there were some, but there
was a lot of these sessions where yeah,

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people that are making games right now, that have games coming out,

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but they weren't necessarily talking at least, Like the sid Meyer talk was definitely

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interesting because it was sid Meyer talking
about what sid Meyer has done over the

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years and kind of his his philosophies, but it wasn't focused on the new

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CIEV game they talked like, Yeah, they talked very very briefly about Yeah.

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So so if if you're trying to
come it out out of that when

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and distill it down to tidbits of
new information, you know, there's nothing

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there for you, not a lot
to be had. Yeah, but you

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know, just kind of going and
seeing these people talk and kind of witnessing

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kind of the personalities and kind of
who these people are that make some of

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these great games, and and kind
of hearing their philosophies and and their trials

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and tribulations as they develop games.
That was really fascinating. Yeah, that's

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just also pretty hard to convey because
they don't let you film that stuff.

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Because I guess like the GDC people
sell it, or they sell audio tapes

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or something like that, because ostensibly
you're supposed to be learning how to make

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00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.640
games from it. Tapes. They
have tapes, set tapes, kase singles.

407
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.799
You get it to twelve twelve inch
singles. Actually, actually it's it's

408
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.720
on wire, okay, yeah,
use wire recordings for that. That's good.

409
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.799
Yeah, big, big fat real, the real, oh good good.

410
00:25:52.440 --> 00:26:00.920
Actually have the the Edison wax cylinder
that they's those players right. Perhaps

411
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.720
they've upgraded Sense to some sort of
digital format. I don't know for sure.

412
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.480
I kept on having. One of
the things I thought was on tape

413
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.440
really funny during all the sessions was
that they had because you get a lot

414
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.880
of international developers coming here, you
have a lot of Japanese speakers. Take

415
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.039
my shoes giving sessions, Oh god, oh you take okay, at least

416
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.119
not taking nice no shows. You
have very short socks. They're very short,

417
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.559
especially for the weather. Yeah,
it's it's damn cold, damn cold

418
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:33.599
and rainy, and I'm wearing as
that. I'm seeing more of your ankle

419
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.039
than I think I want to get, like Hillary Clinton ankles over there,

420
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:42.920
ye, but so so a lot
of Japanese developers they're going to sessions,

421
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.519
and a lot of Japanese developers giving
sessions. So they had a lot of

422
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.599
people translating at these at these sessions, and you could get like little headphones

423
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:56.079
and I kept on like feeling the
urge to grab like the Japanese ones sit

424
00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.519
there and just listen to the translator
talk, yeah, translating what sid Meier

425
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.119
is saying. What does a translator
have to say about what Lewis Castle is

426
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.920
saying about Boom Blocks right now?
Exactly? Yeah, I wanted to that

427
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.160
was that was a neat session.
That was a regular one. It was

428
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.519
yeah, Castle talk about but again
Lewis Castle talking about Boom Blocks, which

429
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.039
is one of the Steven Spielberg games
that EA is putting out. Uh,

430
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.319
and they you know, they showed
the game very briefly, but mostly they

431
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.240
were talking about kind of their processes
in making. Yeah, you didn't leave

432
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:29.960
that with too many nuggets of new
information about the game itself. I guess

433
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.160
the one thing is like, oh, here, here's an Easter egg from

434
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.759
the game at the end there and
he showed something and talked about head tracking,

435
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.480
yeah, and how you'd be able
to eat somehow set up head tracking

436
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:38.880
in the game, which I think, don't what are you like duct taping

437
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.240
the sensor bar on the weed your
face at that point? Yeah, that

438
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:47.000
or he also said you could get
like there are glasses that have little led

439
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:52.799
lights, like basically anything with two
like you know, infrared lights that it

440
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.440
can pinpoint from. Then you put
like we were like two we remotes on

441
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.359
the TV, like above the TV
itself, and it gives you that weird

442
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.680
head tracking effect where where it basically, you know, while you look around

443
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.359
it seems like you are looking.
It gives it a greater sense of depth

444
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.000
in this weird kind of way.
I guess I don't know that. Well,

445
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.480
if you've ever seen any of the
videos online, it's it's trippy how

446
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.480
effective it is in other applications.
I'll be curious to see. It's,

447
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.880
you know, fun little thing to
throw in there. But again, not

448
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.079
a lot of video game specific information. Yeah, there were a few sessions

449
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.400
that were a little bit better for
that, the one for prototype like dude

450
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.759
played it for like ten minutes,
and specially the app session. Yeah,

451
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.160
the app session were the other one. They apparently showed a lot of the

452
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.839
game there too, which I hear
was awesome. Yeah, you drive the

453
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.400
cop car at level four, you
can get a gun. You drive through

454
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.680
the donut shop to get more time, you hit the buttons to rough up

455
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.720
the hippie and stop them selling dope. Nice great arcade, and you and

456
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:51.920
you can and you can still you
can make me a moto in APV.

457
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.319
I think Jeff was having a different
conversation from you just now. Yeah.

458
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.319
No, I'm saying you could make
me a moto in the APV arcade game.

459
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:03.240
And then I guess Gears War two
announced to GDS, right, Yeah,

460
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.559
they announced the keynote. The thing
that everyone figured would happen fully happened.

461
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.680
Great, no, no, no
surprise. I feel like it's almost

462
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:15.480
non news, like like how coy
Microsoft has been about there being a Gears

463
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.920
of War two is pretty ridiculous.
I will say that I'm a little surprised

464
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.440
that they're aiming for Holiday O eight. That that seems obviously they you know,

465
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.279
they need it, they well they
need it, and they obviously you

466
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.880
know, jumped right on development of
that right after they finished the first one.

467
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.599
Right, but that still seems just
I don't know, that seems awful

468
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.640
soon. No, I mean you
know whatever. Halo came out last year,

469
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.079
Gears of War comes out this year. I guess, yeah, you

470
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.720
have your you gotta alternate franchises somehow. Yeah, that it that, it

471
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.839
seems perfect. Really, it's it's
about the right time. It'll be two

472
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.200
years. I guess it would be
two years from yats. Yeah, that's

473
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.480
solid. That's a good amount of
time. So Nope, that that wasn't

474
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:55.480
much a big surprise. Yeah,
and there was other stuff like the X

475
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.519
and A announcement that Microsoft made like
they're gonna finally let those X and A

476
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.880
games get out to the the average
joe like you and me without as much

477
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.119
of a hassle like this holiday season. But if you haven't yet, I

478
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.759
think they might still be up.
Yeah. I think you can still download

479
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.279
them until like March, until to
night. No the download there's two expiration

480
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.839
dates for this stuff. Yeah,
so because this is just a preview of

481
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.200
something that they're going to be putting
out in December, Like, you can

482
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.279
download these seven XNA demos of these
cool little well some of them are cool,

483
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.079
some of them are actually not so
great. These little games that just

484
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.359
people have made using the XNA software, which is just the kind of homebrew

485
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.559
development stuff for the Xbox three sixty
kind of a subscription service. It's basically

486
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.839
the new net year rosie. Yeah, yeah, basically, and you don't

487
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:47.759
need a special stupid piece of hardware
for it, right, And you can

488
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.720
download those up until tomorrow and then
they'll be playable for maybe another two weeks

489
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.759
or something like that, right,
Which which ones? Did you? I

490
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.039
downloaded all of them because I want
to check this stuff out, because I

491
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.599
do like that these kind of bite
sized games that they've been cranking out for

492
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.559
the Xbox Live Arcade, and this
seems like, you know, it's kind

493
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.880
of a homemade bite bite. So
the little little demo versions. Uh,

494
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.519
The only one that I've actually gotten
into or played at all yet is the

495
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.440
Dishwasher yep, which it involves no
washing of dishes, right, and instead

496
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.480
involves using a cleaver to hack robots
apart. And I want to say robots,

497
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.000
And when I say robots, I'm
putting air quotes around. See you

498
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:34.079
over there doing bunny rabbits. They're
dancing around like so this somehow means that

499
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.920
you don't think that they're actually yeah, yeah, I have suspicions about where

500
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.000
where the story for that game goes, but a pretty slick little thing,

501
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.039
very stylist, kind of dark and
nasty and very gory. You do big

502
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.039
fat, nasty finishing moves on dudes
and cut them in half. A good

503
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.200
deal of fun. Actually reminded me
in some ways. A bit of No

504
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:00.319
More Heroes really kind of reminded me
of like Devil May Cry. It's all

505
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.359
combo based and you can launch them
up in the air and jack them up

506
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.480
more up there and stuff like that, I guess, just in the finishing

507
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.160
movie thing, and also using it
as a transition to start talking about no

508
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.640
More Heroes. Fine, be that
way, all right, fucking now we're

509
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.880
talking about no more heroes? What's
up? That was pretty transition transition.

510
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.440
Fifty years got a feather the clutch. That's very nice. It's very fine.

511
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.640
Yeah, great. The other X
and A games apparently don't matter.

512
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.200
Jelly Car. Sorry, I wanted
to talk about Jelly Car for an hour,

513
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.119
but now we're not gonna do you
want to talk about you like,

514
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.240
no, no, not anymore,
no more. Listen. He put it

515
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.920
back into reverse. The jelly car
does not go backwards, but this car,

516
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:43.039
the air pointing down podcast that's going
Uh, okay, I'm sorry.

517
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.440
I was that was presumptuous to be
I did. Okay. I will just

518
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.119
wrap it up by saying, the
other six games are not as good as

519
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.799
the Dishwasher? What about Jelly Car? Uh? Does that even come a

520
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.359
fan? I'm not a huge fan. I kind of neat. Some people

521
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:01.079
kind of liked it, Yeah,
but I do highly recommend folks at home,

522
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.759
Uh download all of these X and
A stuff and yes, give it

523
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.160
a look see for yourself, if
for nothing else, just to you know,

524
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.720
let Microsoft know that people are interested
in this stuff and even though they

525
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.960
made it super convoluted to find it. It's ridiculous, Like there's a there's

526
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.880
a instruction video on the Xbox oh, on the little inside Xbox. Yeah,

527
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.400
like Nelson sits there with a dude
and you know, tells you how

528
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.200
to navigate. Let's go through this
horribly convoluted process where you download this program

529
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.880
and then hit the Y button to
download other programs and it's it's yeah,

530
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.079
there's steps that it just seems like, why didn't you just take out that

531
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.599
step? Well? I think because
it's going to be a preview for their

532
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.240
program. I mean that's why all
this stuff is going away so soon because

533
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.920
it's just a preview for something they're
going to do in like December and they

534
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.599
just haven't gotten it together yet or
something, all right, So that's that's

535
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.480
X and A stuff. That's I
guess that's kind of GDC fellas mystery guest.

536
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.160
Do you have anything to dad thumbs
up, thumbs up, thumbastic.

537
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.519
Yeah, I mean, you know, like played street Fighter four. That's

538
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.759
pretty awesome. Oh yeah, uh
fireballs, Yeah, if you hit,

539
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.119
if you duck and hit medium kick
and then do a fireball at combos and

540
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.840
that's awesome. That's that's all I
want that game to do. It does

541
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.000
it so you can hundred hand slap
dudes, So that's good. Kind of

542
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.840
you kind of had the similar experience
with Smash Brothers, all right, that

543
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.920
that was actually playable on the on
the show floor. I went out there

544
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.480
and played some Smash Brothers and yeah, it is exactly what you would think

545
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.880
a Smash Brothers game would be.
So I don't need to play it then

546
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.880
if you if it's not your thing. I've never liked Brothers. I'm not

547
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.239
a I'm not a huge fan.
I think I think the single player probably

548
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.719
pretty cool though, but yeah,
I just I just find those games just

549
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.239
be a chaotic mess. Like when
you actually get a full four player Smash

550
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:45.840
Brothers game going on, I just
feel like, yeah, I'm just gonna

551
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.000
close my eyes and press A and
I will probably do as well. Maybe

552
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.960
I'm just not good. I know
people talk about there being the tournament scene

553
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:57.280
death if someone else touches my controller, I can't play no Smash Brothers.

554
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.679
We need to go get another controller. There's a serious, high level kind

555
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.639
of play to that game. You
know, you just not playing it right,

556
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.559
You just don't know what you're doing. No, apparently not apparently.

557
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.440
Yeah, apparently these dudes are way
into this game, and and great for

558
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.920
them. They're crazy, but great, great for them. Yeah, glad,

559
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.679
glad they found something they like.
Ye, do we want to move

560
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.079
on? Yeah? What's this No
More Heroes game? Actually, before we

561
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.480
talk about that, Jeff, goddamn, but I wanted actually, well,

562
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:30.039
let's I wanted to pepper our our
various interests into this podcast. There is

563
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.480
a empty McDonald's bag sitting in the
middle of the floor of the living room.

564
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.199
This is from Breakfast. It's for
breakfast. Yeah, do you want

565
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.679
to do you want to talk about
this at all, Jeff, are we

566
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.960
having another food discussion? No?
Not, not really, Okay, I

567
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.599
think I've got a lawsuit here.
I think you got you think this is

568
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:50.159
actionable. I think this might be
actionable. If it's not the letter,

569
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.760
it's the spirit, all right,
I'm gonna read from the side of this

570
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:58.760
bag. We use one hundred percent
beef in every burger, and there's no

571
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:04.000
percent better than that. Hm.
I feel like I've heard of that before,

572
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.119
or you've seen it on the internet, perhaps on the internet under a

573
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.320
photo of me, where it said
you can't beat one hundred percent. I

574
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.519
think this is clearly McDonald's is stealing
which you came up with that. You

575
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:15.159
came up with that phrase on your
own. You came up with it,

576
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.400
you can't beat one hundred percent?
Yes, while I was asleep, that

577
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.239
came to me, and then I
woke up and wrote it down and then

578
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.159
left the house. Yeah, but
you wrote it down, but I wrote

579
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.480
it down. That's what did you
actually like? Trade market? I wrote

580
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.760
it down the back of a receipt
that's as official as it needed as anything

581
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.639
can get. There was a receipt, like money exchanged hands to get that

582
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:40.280
receipt. Yeah, so it's official
documentation. Okay, it's it's admissible in

583
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.760
court. Yeah, exactly, like
that, I can't dispute that the receipt

584
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.400
is in Jack. So do you
think you would have been more or less

585
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.280
upset over this if if it just
said and you can't beat one hundred percent

586
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:02.519
on the back of that McDonald's bag. Mhmm, equally So, I don't

587
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.039
know. I can't decide. You'd
just be more emotional both ways. You

588
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.400
would be both more excited and more
pissed off. Yeah exactly. It would

589
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.239
move the needle one way and then
kerker back the other, and it would

590
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.360
end up in the same way the
sense of everything. Then, Yeah,

591
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.480
I couldn't talk loud around you or
else it would hurt your ears. Yeah,

592
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.639
pretty much. So you get for
you know, put it on the

593
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.960
internet, Man, I didn't put
it on well I guess I did put

594
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.639
it on the internet on the internet, and then other people pass it around

595
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.559
the internet. Yeah. Uh well
fantastic. So so best luck TI on

596
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.039
best luck to McDonald's on your on
your lawsuit against McDonald's. Yeah exactly.

597
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:40.199
Uh so, nowhere here I will
settle for mcgriddles settle for lifetime mcgriddles,

598
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:44.440
not just like seven or something like, I don't know, like some we'll

599
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.840
swing for the fences, man,
gotta go big, all right, Okay,

600
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.880
well all right if we're if we're
gonna swing for the fences, I

601
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.840
want lifetime mcgribbs. Oh well,
what you want is mcribbs all the time?

602
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.519
That's yes, what I'm saying if
they give you, if you if

603
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.079
you signed up with them and said
I want lifetime mcribs, then you would

604
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.559
only you would still only get mcribs
like once every four years or something,

605
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.159
because that's as often as they as
they right, Yeah, I want I

606
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.559
want mcribs as also as often as
I want a McRib yeah, which is

607
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.719
pretty often. Would you want one
right now? Yep? I can go

608
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.760
for McRib although I can only use
I can only go for about half a

609
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.480
McRib before I realized that I don't
want a McRib Do you realize actually just

610
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:30.639
eating like tire rubber that's been like
just dumped barbecue barbecue tire rubber. Yeah,

611
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.119
they put a little grill like they
put a little rib mark on it.

612
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.800
They burned that into it like it
was a real ribb. But yeah,

613
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.679
they like shape it and not like
a bunch of grain or whatever.

614
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:44.400
It actually it's primarily soy. Yeah, yeah, that's not that's not really

615
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:50.159
rib. It's actually the McRib fun
fact actually vegan wow. Yeah, actually

616
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.639
a vegan products. So I've always
I always just figured it was like ribs

617
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.480
shavings, like just like they too, like got a bunch of like you

618
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.800
know, racks of ribs from the
fucking cattlemans or something, and you know,

619
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.599
just rib dust and they just you
know, whatever's left over they just

620
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.159
kind of scrape off and then they
just like put it together into like a

621
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.840
little mold and then they hit them. They you know, clunk the thing

622
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.880
down, and all of a sudden
there's like mcribb because all the meat has

623
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.800
sort of jeeled into one thing.
There is, Yes, there is definitely

624
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.840
a McRib factory. Yeah, somewhere
or maybe they're grown I don't say it's

625
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.199
somewhere in Taipei. They're grown in
petri dishes. I think hydroponically. They

626
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.440
grow nice right exactly, you gotta
have grow lights ten twelve hours on,

627
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.159
twelve hours off. Mcribbs are grown
next to the bomb ass weed, is

628
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.360
what you're saying. And you gotta
make sure you gotta separate your your your

629
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.880
genders. Got to make sure that
the males and females aren't aren't close to

630
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.440
about it. Yeah, no good
can come of that. Yeah, mcribbs

631
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:45.400
start breeding. The world ends,
all right, So that's a that's mcribbs.

632
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.000
Yeah, okay, No no more
heroes. Let's bring back around,

633
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.679
all right, bring it back at
There are no more heroes in the world

634
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.679
of mcgribb because you can't go get
a mcribb. Yeah, I wish I

635
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.320
would could be a McRib hero and
bring it to the children. Don't be

636
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.719
a hero, Jeff. So I
I just finally, after after much gnashing

637
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:12.760
of teeth and resorting of game fly
cues, I finally got a copy of

638
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.800
No More Heroes and dug into it. And I was not Killer seven,

639
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.880
the last game by by this designer
suit of fifty one. Yeah. Grasshopper

640
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.000
folks, Yeah, the Grasshopper folks. I really liked it in concept.

641
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.880
I really appreciated what Killer seven was
trying to do with its severe insane art

642
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.760
style and completely nonsensical story and almost
almost complete lack of game player yeah,

643
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.800
and basically basic unplayability. But it
was but that unplayability was so intense that

644
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.639
I just could not push through it. Yeah. Uh Past like the first

645
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:53.320
two levels, but No More Heroes
is similarly completely out of its goddamn mind

646
00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.159
but still totally play. I have
to say, I I I'm totally enjoying

647
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.960
kind of the semi mindlessness of the
of the gameplay of just you know,

648
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.480
run up to dudes and hitting a
button a bunch and then swinging the Wii

649
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.639
remote to cut him in half or
down the middle or whatever. Yeah,

650
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.280
and then just gushes and gushes and
gushes of blood. Yes, bucket fountains,

651
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.800
fountains of of of blood. And
then you collect coconuts for money.

652
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.000
Dude, totally, coconuts are worth
more than human life. The moment that

653
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.480
I knew I liked that game was
at the very beginning when the protagonist Travis

654
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.639
toucheddown. Yeah. Already great.
Yeah, I was already very stoked knowing

655
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.440
that, knowing that going in.
When he crashes into this this layer,

656
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.239
this mansion and he flies off of
his motorcycle and as he's flying through the

657
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.880
air about to attack uh like two
bodyguards or something, he just screams,

658
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.639
fuck face. And then and then
the then his his beam Katana not to

659
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:59.400
be confused with a lightsaber or a
laser sword. And then there's yeah that

660
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:05.199
he hits them with it, and
then just blood everywhere him. It was

661
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.880
just I was like immediately, like
once that just the guy screaming fuck face

662
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.239
while flying through the air for no
good reason. I was on board,

663
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.840
sold and it just it just keeps
getting better for yeah yeah, wait,

664
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:19.119
wait do you getple and like all
the other Burger supplex, No, there's

665
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.320
a pizza suplex. There are both. And then I did the mission.

666
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.639
I had to go and assassinate the
CEO of Pizza Butt. Yeah. Yeah.

667
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.400
The only thing ahead, no ahead. I didn't really have anything to

668
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.440
add to that. No, go
ahead, go ahead, Aux ahead,

669
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.599
go ahead, No, go ahead, Jeff you one go ahead? No

670
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.320
you go ahead? Go ahead,
you guys go ahead. No someone,

671
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.639
I'll catch up with you later.
Yeah, I'm leaving. I'll see you,

672
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.880
all right, take it easy.
The only thing I gotta say that

673
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:52.960
I'm not loving about the game is
driving around Santa Destroy. I love Santa

674
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.480
Destroy. It's great name is Yeah. I think that's kind of the point

675
00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:00.800
though, is that it's the open
world stuff is supposed to kind of Yeah,

676
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.599
it's like you just have this like
horrible motorcycle. It's impossible to turn.

677
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.559
It looks like a budget yes,
two games rings one game or something

678
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:13.280
like parts of that game yeah,
like look aggressively bad on purpose. Well

679
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.199
like yeah, like the way like
the coins fly out of the dudes when

680
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.639
you cut them down. Yeah,
it's ridiculous. I think that was the

681
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.239
point of the open world stuff,
is that, like open world games are

682
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.639
kind of dumb. So yeah,
it just looks like a simple two thousand

683
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.280
game, like it might as well
be the driving. Yeah, it's like,

684
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.559
here, check it out. We're
just gonna have this open world because

685
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.000
how hysterical would that be to just
throw that in for no reason? Yeah,

686
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.679
there's not really anything to do in
the open world other than drive to

687
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.079
the location and then take on missions. Yeah, it's like it's like they

688
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.639
just sat down and said, what
do these Americans like? They like to

689
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.679
drive around aimlessly around a big open
world. Let's just give them that.

690
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.840
Then nothing to do, like even
like that there's pedestrians and can run them

691
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.360
over the disappear they just got and
they disappear, and like you can you

692
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.880
can boost on your bike, like
you can get a little speed boost.

693
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.760
Yeah, no, real good reason
too. Yeah, you can like knock

694
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.360
down phone polls and you know,
stop lights and coconut trees and stuff.

695
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.760
Just no, no real consequence of
anything. How dare you knock over a

696
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.519
coconut tree? What did we just
what would we just finished talking about?

697
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.800
With coconuts? I forgot coconuts are
worth more than human life. All right,

698
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:22.639
settle down, Jeff, I'm not
gonna Jeff, go ahead, go

699
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.199
ahead, go ahead. No,
I'm just gonna take a drink. You

700
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.159
go ahead, Alex go ahead,
No, you go ahead. I got

701
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.800
it this thing. You go ahead. I'm sorry I was I was midsip

702
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.760
there, So yeah, I highly
recommend the No More Heroes for people who

703
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:43.639
want complete extremely emorated lunacy on their
Wii. Yeah. Certainly one of the

704
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.800
best games I've played on the way
love the guy who plays Travis Touchdown one

705
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:54.679
of the many insane crazy collecting wrestling
masks and remembering old pro wrestling moves,

706
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.840
which I guess I imagine will or
I hope we'll pay off at some point

707
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.079
in the story. If you read
the manual, it kind of alludes to

708
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.639
some stuff like that. So yeah, fantastic that's a that's that's kind of

709
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.679
what I have been playing most recently. Didn't really play a lot of games

710
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.800
during GC that kind of precluded no. I like, I went to a

711
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.719
couple of appointments here and there for
stuff that I was, you know,

712
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.239
actually supposed to cover, but apart
from Street Fighter, and I played a

713
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.880
little Echo Chrome for the p S
three talk about that. I want to

714
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.880
know, that game looks really interesting
one Echo Chrome, Yeah, kind of

715
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.800
mc esure, but walking on top
of it look neat. It looks really

716
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.440
neat, and and you know,
the controls are very simple. You know,

717
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.199
you just kind of rotate the camera
to change the perspective of what you're

718
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:39.199
looking at, and that in turn, like basically perspective becomes reality. So

719
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.760
all of a sudden, looks like
it's lower than he'll fall off and fall

720
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.079
and catch it because it's now lower
even though it was higher a second ago,

721
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.440
and be a little holes and you
have to position something under the hole

722
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.119
so he can fall onto something,
and and it's just it's a it's neat

723
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:57.719
to the camera becomes much more of
an active part of the game and not

724
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.280
right like how your view like I
think I think your only other control is

725
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.320
to get your dude to stop walking. Like if you want to stop him

726
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.000
and kind of plan out what you're
gonna do, you can do that.

727
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.599
But other than that, yeah,
it just he just kind of goes.

728
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.679
That's pretty awesome. That's fascinating.
It sounds a little bit like, uh,

729
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.360
maybe a little bit like Crush and
then it plays with perspective a lot.

730
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.920
Yeah, it's it's a little similar, but it's I mean not so

731
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.320
much. I mean, obviously there's
like mechanical differences, but it seems kind

732
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.760
of like there's there's a bit of
conceptual sure. Yeah, yeah, i'd

733
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.400
say that. Yeah, i'd agree
with you. There. Uh I played

734
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.840
a little bit of Jumper. Oh
yeah, but not at the show.

735
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.119
Not at the show. No,
this was this was during the course of

736
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.119
the show. Well, we're done
talking about the show. We're not talking

737
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.880
about the show anymore. Stop talking
about the show. We did that segment

738
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.880
already. I watched someone played by
on a commando at the show. Uh

739
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.519
you want to talk about commando?
Looks? Okay, did you look at

740
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.519
it? Was it? Was it
the re armed or was it even knows?

741
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:01.360
There's the real did the guys dreadlocks
still look totally sweet. Yeah,

742
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:06.039
they look pretty good. I like, I like good white guys with dreadlocks

743
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:09.639
top top end like dreads. Because
he's been in prison, we have a

744
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:17.280
dread it all a semi racist concept
or completely ridiculous concept. Let's let's make

745
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.280
a dreadlock engine. Let's make that
our middle speed speed dreads, speed dreads.

746
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.760
I'm actually working on that middleware.
Fore your game middleware by the speed

747
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.480
dreads. Hero needs to have dreadlocks. We can, we can hook you

748
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.719
up. We're also working on speed
scarves. But it's totally different. Yeah,

749
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.679
that's it's much different technology, much
more complicated. Yeah, yeah,

750
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.559
so but look for that coming from
us. So so uh so. Yeah.

751
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.840
Playing a little bit of Jumper,
which reminds me a little bit gameplay

752
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.960
wise of Market the Cree. Oh, the Market Cree. If you remember

753
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.960
that, do you remember Mark?
I do remember the Market Cree. I

754
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.400
was not a big fan of the
Market Cree. It was that was definitely

755
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.880
a flawed game, but it just
the way it had the like the like

756
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.480
different face buttons corresponded with attacking enemies
in different ways. This is kind of

757
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.519
similar, and that there's like a
little basically like a little ring on the

758
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.840
ground around enemies, and like on, there's four sides to it, and

759
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.400
those correspond to the four face buttons, and you can jump use your teleportation

760
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.880
ability to jump to other sides and
hit them while they're not looking. U

761
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.800
Now, this game not not a
bad not a bad concept, Like I

762
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.599
kind of want to like it,
yeah, but just you know, mechanically

763
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.760
super clunky, very ugly game,
bad charac And now this is a game

764
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.840
that is not starring the star of
the movie so much as a side character

765
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.039
from the movie. So this is
this is Jumper. Griffin's story is actually

766
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.039
the name of the game, which
is tells the backstory of one of the

767
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.440
supporting characters from the film Jumper.
Now, now who is who is Griffin?

768
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:49.039
Griffin is the kid who was the
kid who played Billy Elliott. Okay,

769
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.320
done grown up, so now he's
he's an adult and this is these

770
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.199
are the choices he's making for film
roles. This is this is what happened

771
00:48:54.679 --> 00:49:00.239
to the kid from looks supporting role
and Jumper apparently very stupid. I kind

772
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:01.280
of want to see it too,
because I like Doug Lyman stuff. But

773
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.719
I think it's just got a neat
look, you know, like the jumping

774
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.639
looks kind of neat, it's conceptually, I don't know, but it's Hayden

775
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.440
Christians. Yeah, I guess that's
kind of where falls apart. Apparently Eminem

776
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.760
was up for that role at one
point. Great, yeah, before he

777
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.679
Skywalker. Yeah, that would have
been a great fit. Think how much

778
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.719
better that that those movies would have
been, I know, featuring Marshall Mathers

779
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:29.119
as Anakin Skywalker, introducing Introducing.
I totally believe that that's the way more

780
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.239
couldn't have done worse than Hayden Christians. Yeah, really, why is that

781
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.079
guy still in movies? Really?
Well, he's in, He's in.

782
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.760
He's not in movies, He's in
Jumper. So, although I did also

783
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:44.000
recently learn that apparently Jumper Griffin's Story
is the name of a book that the

784
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.039
author of the original book Jumper,
upon which the film is loosely based.

785
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:52.679
Uh that like also that basically follows
along with the game. I guess that

786
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:58.079
the sequel book is what the game
has derived for It's so it's so convoluted

787
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.559
and ridiculous because there's a Jump,
there's a rich Jumper fiction from which they

788
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.000
are drawing from. Here, I
would say go ahead and take a pass

789
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.280
on Jumper Griffin Story. I hear, I hear. The achievement points are

790
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.760
rather easy. That's the one thing. That's the one thing that that kept

791
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.119
me playing for as long as I
did. I'm probably gonna play some more.

792
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.400
But five hundred points that I gotten
about an hour and a half,

793
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.639
two hours of play, Yeah,
that sounds like a pretty good game to

794
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.920
me. So if you're if you're
if you're into points, like Jeff is

795
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.679
into points, uh and I guess
kind of like I'm into points, then

796
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.039
check out Jumper Griffin Story. But
if you like to play games, don't.

797
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:37.239
Yeah, And as far as The
Club goes, don't you'll play it

798
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.880
either way because it it doesn't have
easy achievements and it's also not very good.

799
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.559
Okay, the Club. I'm still
gonna check out The Club. I

800
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.880
God, I'm very conflicted about that
game. Granted I haven't I haven't finished

801
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.280
it yet. I'm gonna review it
at some point down the road here,

802
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.119
but there are It's just one of
those games that, like, every once

803
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.079
in a while, I really want
to like it, but it's just so

804
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.639
stupid. It doesn't do anything that's
like particularly stylish or memorable. It's just

805
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.119
like run through these levels and shoot
these guys and then do it more.

806
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.800
Yeah. Like I haven't played the
final version, but I saw the demo

807
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.599
and I've seen it in the past, and it just it seems like they're

808
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:16.400
trying to make it a game where
you are it's a shooter where you run

809
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:21.199
around and have to kill people with
style, but that they don't necessarily give

810
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.679
you enough interesting ways to be stylish
other than I'm gonna do a role before

811
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.639
I shoot you. It's that's pretty
much the extent of it as far as

812
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.639
I can tell. And it's like, yeah, the multiplayers a little more

813
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.719
interesting, but it's still like the
shooting mechanics aren't really interesting enough to sustain

814
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.360
it for very long. Sure so, and I'm sorry, I just find

815
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.280
the whole premise of the game.
I'm not one that usually like nitpl nitpicks

816
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.960
like plot points and games like this, because whatever, it's not really the

817
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.599
point of it. But the whole
concept for the game is incredibly stupid.

818
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.960
Like there's this club of guys that
are like America. Yeah, yeah,

819
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.079
there's this club of guys that are
like psychotic killers that go through these you

820
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.559
know, contests where they just have
to go kill a bunch of guys and

821
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.679
you know, get the most points. I don't mind that part of it.

822
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.360
But where did they get these guys
that sign up to shoot? Are

823
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.599
they just also people that are in
the club? I don't They never explain

824
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.000
that they are those these like grunt
dudes who can take like two bullets and

825
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.079
then they're dead. And it's like, well, if if you're one of

826
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.559
those guys, why would you ever
show up to do that? Maybe at

827
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.639
the end you learn that all the
bullets were fake. Yeah, maybe,

828
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:28.039
I don't know. I just for
some reason I can't get past that,

829
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.199
and that's making it really hard to
enjoy that game. Yeah, I think

830
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.079
for me, I guess that game
coming from Bizarre Creations and kind of knowing

831
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.760
the like the Kudos system from the
Project Gotham Racing Games, Yeah, I

832
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.320
guess I was kind of hoping for
something as elaborate as that, and when

833
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.599
it came to chaining together different moves
and stuff where it just be ringing up,

834
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.800
like I almost wanted it to just
have kudos. Yeah, like all

835
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.920
right, I have spun of three
sixty and then shot you, and then

836
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.400
I did a power over drift as
I was running around this corner and shot

837
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.639
four more guys in the face.
So yeah, I mean you look at

838
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.039
stuff like Total Overdose and like,
you know, just Cause and whatever,

839
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.880
and there's just a lot more of
style to games like that, you know,

840
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.639
like when't you're doing the kills and
such, and this game just doesn't

841
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.599
do any of that, or you
know, I mean even something like Max

842
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:09.800
Payne, which didn't necessarily give you
points for stylish activity, but but you

843
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.119
wanted to because it was so dope. There was no diving and slow motion

844
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:19.840
in this game that I have encountered
thus far, which is which sucks because

845
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.119
every game should have that. Yeah, totally. So that's the club.

846
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:28.119
That's the club, and the stub
that's out. Yeah, and uh yeah,

847
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.400
I guess we're coming up on March. There's gonna be some stuff.

848
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.079
Yeah, do we want to do? I want to look at the calendar

849
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:39.360
here. There's no new there's no
gaming new release calendar in my living room.

850
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:42.920
All right, all right, well
we're gonna bring out this calendar here,

851
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:45.719
you guys, go ahead and any
time. So, hey, Jeff,

852
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.079
what do you think about the oscars
tonight? Oh? Or those those

853
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.440
are tonight. Who do you think
it's gonna Who's gonna come away a winner

854
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.480
tonight? Man, Cobra. Yeah, Cobra is gonna get Best Picture Cobra.

855
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.239
Alright, are you still on to
go see Cobra? Yes? Next,

856
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.159
next Sunday, Cobra. Next Sunday, we will be going to a

857
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.159
movie theater where they will be showing
a midnight special guest showing do you want

858
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.760
to go see Cobra? Next Sunday, He's in, He sounds like he's

859
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.119
in, all right. And the
week the week after that, Commando.

860
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.880
Yeah, and I'm gone. Yeah, we'll be signing autographs out in front

861
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.360
because of our roles in Cobra.
Say hi to us at the opening gas

862
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.159
station. Come meet, Come meet
the cast of Cobra. See here,

863
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.239
I played Channing pat Upon. Oh
yeah, Patapond's out this week. Yeah

864
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.400
I hear. It's awesome. Yeah. People seem to like and they're they're

865
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.559
like selling for twenty bucks here or
something. Right, So yeah, the

866
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.480
Lost game for the three six,
Oh that's right, Yeah, I'm reviewing

867
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:37.960
that. I'll take a pass on
that. I don't know anything about Lost,

868
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:42.159
don't watch I watch it pretty obsessively
so I watch it and I hate

869
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.360
it. Yeah, And every time
I watch it, I go, man,

870
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:45.760
I hate this show, but then
you keep watching it. I keep

871
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.280
watching it. It's just I love
it. Everybody love that. I hate

872
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.880
that everyone speaks in ellipsies and everyone, you know, does not include the

873
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.400
part of the sentence that would make
anything makes sense. Like every time,

874
00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:00.440
like at some point someone just has
to say something that's a fact and not

875
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.639
just this. Last week's episode actually
was like one of the more informative ones

876
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.039
I've seen in a long time,
Like they actually but still just the fact

877
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.639
that they just piled pile things on. It's like they're, you know,

878
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:14.840
now they're off the goddamn island,
and they've not explained anything that happened in

879
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.840
the past three seasons yet. I
just, yeah, I feel like they're

880
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.559
there's there's no good payoff for that
show. One day, it's all just

881
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.559
gonna come together and it's all gonna
I don't believe that's what they said.

882
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:30.400
I'm not gonna Yeah. See,
Jeff was burned on Twin Peaks. He

883
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.239
knows. That's why I don't watch
TV anymore. And I loved Twin Peaks.

884
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.760
Basically, David Lynch's fault. Oh, and that's why I watched movies

885
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:43.280
on my I pod. Take that, David Lynch Ryan Uh one of my

886
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.760
favorite releases here on the counter,
although this is uh shipping just in February.

887
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:53.719
Oh eight's who knows puzzle guzzle mmm
guzzle of them puzzles? Are you

888
00:55:53.760 --> 00:56:00.159
a puzzle guzzler, Jeff, Uh
No, not professionally. Yeah. I

889
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.000
mean I have been playing a lot
of Professor Layton, so I have been

890
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.880
chugging some puzzles, but I wouldn't
call myself a puzzle guzzler. You're liking

891
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.559
it. People seem to really be
entiten. Uh. Yeah, yeah,

892
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:14.599
except I'm really bad at match stick
puzzles. So when every time one of

893
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.159
those comes up, like it's really
hard because there's a fact that just lists

894
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.199
every single answer in the whole damn
game, and once you've turned to it

895
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.280
once you're just like, dude,
I'm not gonna I don't want to think

896
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.400
about this. Crape. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean I used to

897
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:30.039
read a lot of like brain teasing
books that were basically those exact same puzzles

898
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:34.280
growing up, and even then I
would just turn right to the back and

899
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.159
look at the solution kind of work
backwards that way. Jeff, did we

900
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.599
talk about end Plus at all last
week? No? No, I think

901
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.440
we might have said that it was
coming. Yeah, and Plus is out

902
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.519
and Plus plus is outbox you can
buy it. Please, please do buy

903
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.199
it, although I will say I, yeah, and while you while you're

904
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:53.920
buying that, buy a copy of
res HD. Yeah, buy both of

905
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.079
those. Please. H But I
felt weird buying end Plus because you know,

906
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.840
you pay the ten bucks for it
and it starts downloading, it's like

907
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.599
nineteen megs. I just feel like
for ten bucks I should just get more

908
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.760
megs. Yeah, Like, even
if they just pat it out and seventy

909
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:09.719
five megs, it's how big this
is, and it's just it's it's just

910
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.079
yeah, it's just like we put
a lot of music in here or something,

911
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:19.559
so music whatever. If they just
garbage files, just junk files in

912
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.039
there to pat it out. Here, here's a text file that is ten

913
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.800
megs, that would make me feel
somehow better. Yeah, that game is

914
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:32.039
about the epic quest of Ninja's versus
gold, or it's more like Ninjas versus

915
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:37.760
Physics and lasers in search of gold. Yeah, but if the gold wasn't

916
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:38.920
there, they wouldn't be there,
so it's gold's fault. So it's Nina

917
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:46.599
Ninjas versus gold. They're collecting the
gold, not like destroying, not punching

918
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:52.039
gold. It's it's I don't know, I would Nazis have weird robots and

919
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.119
physics. If it's anything that video
games are taught me is that Nazis have

920
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.000
technology well beyond our means. So
you're saying that this is Ninja's verse,

921
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:01.800
is the occult? Yeah, it's
like hell boy, read your Bible.

922
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:06.199
Yeah, it's like Castle Wolf's time. It's Castle Wolfan's time, but with

923
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:10.719
Ninjas. So where is it?
Robot is Robot Hitler and the animal game

924
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.760
Master master d himself? Yes,
you idiot? All right, that's that's

925
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:20.519
pretty cool. And then this week
trigger Heart ex excelica. Yeah, that's

926
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.800
a crazy It was a Dreamcast shooter
came out in Japan and Larashi did it

927
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:29.000
seven or something? Uh was a
reason? Yeah that was a fairly recent

928
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.719
one. Was a recent Dreamcast really? God? Not like Yeah, and

929
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:38.679
it's some kind of shooter where you're
anime girls that shoot. Okay, So

930
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.159
that's great. Yeah, I mean
that's all I would want. I'll pay

931
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.840
the ten bucks for that. Yeah, like, and probably play it twice

932
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.039
like I did Omega five. I
like Omega five. I just don't for

933
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.840
some reason don't want to play Omega
five. It didn't really it didn't really

934
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:58.840
butter my Hide or anything that you
like that from video games, because that's

935
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:01.320
buttering. I do get a fair
amount of that. Actually, if it

936
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.639
doesn't putter my Hide, I don't
give it anything higher than like a six.

937
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:07.960
Is that a six out of six
or six out of ten? What

938
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.920
are we What are we talking here? What scoring system we talking here?

939
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.400
Six out of seven? Five?
Okay? This odd cut off seven?

940
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:22.760
Five is the new ten cut coming
up in the near future Army at two.

941
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.920
Oh yeah right, yes, that
yes, looking forward to that one.

942
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:32.679
I it's weird because you hear whispers
about it being a complete train wreck.

943
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:36.519
Yeah, well, I mean it
did get delayed, and you know

944
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.039
it's got one of those I'm sure
there are a lot of really good,

945
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:44.440
really bad development stories about it.
All I'm saying is the one or two

946
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.920
levels that I played, like last
year, like at the end of the

947
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:51.920
summer. Yeah, we're great,
well good, that stuff was fun unless

948
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:52.960
they've gone around and fuck that up. And the rest of the game is

949
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:57.000
a complete pile of shit. I'm
at least still looking forward to that one.

950
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.000
So that's on March of the four, and they talk about that soon.

951
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.679
Man, that's like this week also
on Martin's or week after this one,

952
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.840
So like, oh, next Tuesday, Okay, this not this one?

953
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:08.639
What am I gonna do this week? Then well pack your pack your

954
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:14.480
bags. You're gonna be busy on
on the fourth because Bully Scholarship Edition comes

955
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.719
to the the sixty. Also sweet, uh, super excited about that.

956
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.920
I actually I only played a little
bit of Bully one two happy about that

957
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:23.719
because I really do want to play
it on the three. I mean,

958
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:29.360
you know, I play. Yeah, I played Bully uh pretty excessively when

959
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.880
it came out on the on the
PS two, and I am very excited

960
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.519
to play it again. Yeah,
totally. And they're selling that for like

961
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:39.559
ten bucks off. I think it's
like fifty on three sixty and Fantastic and

962
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:45.159
thirty or whatever it is. What's
the other platform we we Oh, yeah,

963
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.239
it makes sense. I'll probably play
the three sixty version that we remote

964
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:57.320
to Kiss Girls or Boar Boys.
Don't forget that that's important. Very controversial.

965
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:04.599
This game teaches home moost sinuality to
our children's as this orgasmic rape simulator

966
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:07.800
will not be allowed into our public
school system, but I would very much

967
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:12.039
like to see it at my home
in the dark. Here you go.

968
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.840
It's a port of Stroker for the
Commodore sixty four. Great. Great,

969
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:21.079
Also in March of the fourth,
March the fourth, pretty pretty jampack action

970
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.960
packed. Here's got a war Chains
of Olympics. Yeah for the PSP,

971
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:28.840
which I hear is excellent from the
few people I've talked to you who've played

972
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:30.559
it all the way through. At
this I played, I played a little

973
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:31.480
bit of it. It looks like
I got a war. Yeah, it

974
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:36.000
looks like I got a war.
But it's it's handheld, right, has

975
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:39.239
a sex Meanny game? Again?
Great? So handheld sex menty games?

976
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.400
Yeah? So yeah, Jack,
I bet you're real familiar with those,

977
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:51.559
aren't. Jeff's wah looking further out
and there's there's more and more exciting stuff

978
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:55.199
coming out because video games never sleep. Anything else you guys want to wrap

979
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.320
about. I met you're very energetic. I'm literally sitting on the edge of

980
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:01.159
my seat here now. Yeah,
we should check in on that. How

981
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:05.039
is that? Are you sweating?
Are you warm? Your scalp tingling at

982
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:08.840
all? No? But I feel
like I am holding this microphone really tightly.

983
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:15.320
I'm really gripping onto this microphone.
So realized that like my fingers white.

984
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.880
Alright, So how about like punch
you in the shoulder a couple of

985
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:22.880
times we see if you feel it? All right? Ah yeah, yep,

986
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:27.119
yep, all right, that just
hurts. Stop punching me. So

987
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.599
we have we have ascertained that he
has not lost the ability to feel pain.

988
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:32.960
Yeah, I'm not like Renard.
So it's not gonna be some illy

989
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.000
rage where you're picking up dumpsters and
throwing in at the police. Well,

990
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:42.119
yeah, he still has a good
fingers cross fingers crossed? Makes you had

991
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.079
a second one? Serena altshul is
gonna be checking in on you at midnight.

992
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:55.320
Let's just say that. Illy.
Oh questions, oh right, questions,

993
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.679
God, idiot, I forgot we
solicited questions last week on the show.

994
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:06.280
Last week I got a ton of
great questions. Though, I all

995
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:07.519
right, I can't believe a toy
spaced out on that. Though, God,

996
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:15.760
oh I can. Jacob Broderson writes
in from Denmark. Uh, he

997
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.840
wanted to hear us take on something
as basic as controllers. What do we

998
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.559
prefer personally three sixty p S three, mouse and keyboard, perhaps even the

999
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:28.480
we mote. H If you had
to pick only one controller from the history

1000
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:34.079
of consoles, which would you pick? Probably the duel Shock two, I'd

1001
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.320
probably say the duel Shock one.
I probably said the duel Shock three.

1002
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:44.480
So basically the consensus is duel Shock. We just can't decide which one.

1003
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.400
Why would you Why would you pick
the two or the one over the three.

1004
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:51.079
It's it's wireless because it only works
with the PlayStation three. Dude,

1005
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.519
he's not asking. I mean,
oh, well, that's the thing.

1006
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:59.880
I don't like the six axis as
uh. Actually, I'm not talking about

1007
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:02.400
this. I've not used a dual
Shock three, so I can't. Well,

1008
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.920
I bought one. It's great,
you like it. Yeah, But

1009
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:09.000
at the same time, I've been
playing a lot of three sixty games,

1010
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.360
so I'm used to the tighter analog
sticks of the three sixty, and the

1011
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.840
dual Shock sticks are loose. God, the deep pad on the three sixty

1012
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.119
one sucks. Yes, it does. Oh my god, it's it's it's

1013
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:21.360
functional. Like I'm over it.
Yeah, I'm pretty we're past the point

1014
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.079
of bitching about that because everyone's gotten
used to it. I think here's what

1015
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.719
I don't Here's what I don't like
about the dual Shock three, UH,

1016
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.760
and the six axis as well.
You don't like the USB port on it

1017
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.679
smells kind of like burning electronics.
I don't like those lower triggers. I

1018
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:38.320
don't like those big, soft lower
triggers like I would rather have either,

1019
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:44.159
like the duel Shock two with the
buttons. But driving games are better on

1020
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.519
the PS three as a result of
that, because they basically took that stuff

1021
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:49.719
from the Xbox. I don't know, Like I've played a ton of burnout

1022
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:56.360
with the duel Shock three, and
it seems I like the better. I

1023
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.079
like the triggers on the on that
controller better, so I don't. I

1024
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.639
don't like the bumper so much on
the bumpers. I don't care so much

1025
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.320
for it. Like the actual triggers
on the controller I think are better than

1026
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:08.920
those. Oh, let's let's see
here. What else? What else?

1027
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:14.079
All right? Here's a question from
uh, someone who did not choose to

1028
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.440
leave a name. It just says
it's from I don't wear panties at email

1029
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:19.840
account dot com. Right, it's
probably not this this gentleman's real name.

1030
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:24.960
Uh, gentleman, I'm going with
it. Yeah, okay, that's that's

1031
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.039
that's my guess, because that's not
really a shocking email address if it's a

1032
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.559
dude. No, Uh, how
do you feel about Call of Duty five

1033
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.280
going back to World War Two?
Also? Where do you think Infinity Wards

1034
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:41.199
to take the next cod? How
do you feel about future settings? Uh?

1035
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.199
Well, I guess yeah, call
of Duty five if they go back

1036
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.119
to World War two, snooze,
totally totally done. Like I don't think

1037
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.280
they've even officially announced that, but
it seems it sounds like that's That's what

1038
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.000
everyone seems to assume, is that
Trey Ark's gonna do it, and it's

1039
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.119
gonna be like Call of Duty three, Well, that's just gonna be the

1040
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.679
your fall, your fall to that
Star Trek movie scenario of every other one

1041
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.679
is the good one and then the
tray Arch ones are not so much the

1042
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.199
good ones. Yeah, well whatever, I mean. I mean, Call

1043
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:09.760
of Duty three was a fine game, and just you know, it's you

1044
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.199
look back on it now that Call
of Duty four is out and you're like,

1045
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:14.679
dude, yeah, what do you
want to go to not follow a

1046
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.559
direct follow up to Call of Duty
three. At this point, I'm not

1047
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.239
played four. I don't want to
play in a World War two first person

1048
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:23.320
shooter ever. Again, yeah,
I'm yeah. So so if if Call

1049
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.960
of Duty five is World War two, I think everyone here takes a pass.

1050
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.760
Yeah. As far as future settings
for a Call of Duty game,

1051
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.159
space not not not feeling it because
I think part of what makes Call of

1052
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:41.000
Duty four so thrilling is how they
capture kind of the reality of this situation

1053
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.480
with just the little details in all
of the environments, like when you go

1054
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:48.079
into that the TV studio, in
that that early level, you know,

1055
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.639
that stuff so great and having to
you know, create this whole like a

1056
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:54.119
fake future universe or something. I
don't know, what if what if you

1057
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.880
don't have to do that? What
if it's just the same kind of war

1058
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:03.039
torn scenario but in bass with lasers. But I guess the thing is that

1059
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:10.119
doesn't add anything for me, that
does not improve Lasers are pretty man,

1060
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.599
that's the G I Joe game then, right, Yeah, they should make

1061
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.440
Yes, Infinity Wars should make a
G I. Joe game next, that's

1062
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.039
what they should do. Forget about
well, the movies coming out. The

1063
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.440
live action movie is being filmed right
now. They could butcher the whole things.

1064
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:24.599
No, they didn't make it based
on the cartoon, so there's not

1065
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:30.920
crap. Miller isn't playing the baroness. God really, yes, who would

1066
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:36.559
be better? Anyone would Hawk?
Yeah, sure, yeah, but anyone

1067
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:44.159
with dark hair would be a better
pick for that. Clara for Lanilanie is

1068
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.280
never a good pick for anything.
Richie looks like a monkey right now.

1069
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.840
Give her the glasses and whatever.
It's perfect, like big bangs to cover

1070
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:56.079
a gigantic forehead. Well, no, there's nothing could cover she does that.

1071
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:59.199
It makes it look even weirder because
there's there's that whole severe bang thing

1072
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:03.119
going on right now. Girls sort
of like one of those like African tribal

1073
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.519
masks to cover her entire head.
There's nothing that can cover that forehead.

1074
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:13.800
All right, here's here's a question
that is not video game related. Ja

1075
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.800
jac writes in and says, first
time listener, first time emailing. I

1076
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:23.680
know that though being game reviewers,
you have traveled the world. Okay,

1077
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.079
I'm sorry, I know that through
being game reviewers you have traveled the world

1078
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:31.199
and have seen many things. What
are the craziest foods you encountered overseas,

1079
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.520
I think. I mean, I
haven't really done too much world traveling.

1080
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:40.159
I've been to London a couple of
times and and Tokyo probably seven or eight

1081
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:44.479
times. But but like I've never
been to Canada or Mexico. I've also

1082
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.800
never been to Canada. I've been
to Canada. I could speak of unique

1083
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:50.640
Canadian cuisine. They just they just
put gravy on everything. We already went

1084
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:55.720
through this. They also have pizza
McDonald's, right, yeah, so that

1085
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:59.479
in Japan they put they like to
put mayonnaise on pizza. The order from

1086
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:00.800
like a pizza or a Dominoes.
They do have those there, and they

1087
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:04.680
put very crazy like it was very
different. We had a native speaker and

1088
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:09.039
it was still difficult to just get
a pepperoni pizza. Yeah, and on

1089
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:14.279
top of that, super expensive to
get it delivered. And they deliver it

1090
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.319
on little bikes, really little bikes. So you just have like a whole

1091
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:21.159
like slice of tomato and then a
bunch of mayo and it just pour I

1092
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:26.039
see corn, yeah, show out
on a pizza. Yeah, mmm good,

1093
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.920
just little niblets. Yeah, it's
it's it's very different food there if

1094
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:32.560
you get it the style that they
serve it kind of by default, but

1095
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.600
uh, if you if you haggle
with them long enough and just say no,

1096
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:40.720
dude, red sauce like a pizza
and also pepperoni like a pizza,

1097
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.479
like you would put on. And
what's the cheese situation, because I know

1098
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.880
Japan not not big into cheese.
They have it, you know, that's

1099
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.520
where they putting it on. The
is like is it like Mayo instead of

1100
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:55.560
instead of you know, I don't
know, well, like like we haggled

1101
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:59.079
our way around those. So I've
only seen pictures of of how it's supposed

1102
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:02.279
to be, but it sounds really
scary and and not something I want to

1103
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.760
try. Yeah, I don't want
any part of that. Anything. Mayonnaise

1104
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:13.199
on pizza sounds just about like the
most unappealing thing ever, right, And

1105
01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:15.520
I like mayonnaise on stuff sometimes,
but not not on that. Yeah,

1106
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.600
I bet you do. I just
I might be crazy, but I seon

1107
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:23.800
remember like like Mayo being served as
like the thing you dip fries in when

1108
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.319
I was in Canada. Maybe that
was just like one weird place I was

1109
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.439
in or something, but yeah,
that's like the Yeah, that kind of

1110
01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:32.840
the whole like pulp fiction thing on
that or that's France. But I'm saying

1111
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.840
when I was in Canada, they
were Canada is like France. Next question,

1112
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:41.560
I's gonna do it for questions,
We've we've come to the end.

1113
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.279
Thanks for everyone who wrote in,
even though I skimmed over most of them.

1114
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:50.560
Keep keep on writing and maybe we'll
read your ridiculous question, maybe including

1115
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:56.479
yourself. That's real convenient. Special
guest, I don't know this is his

1116
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.359
podcast. I've got you on a
separate track. I could just delete you

1117
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:06.960
from this podcasting just being void.
Yeah, yeah, we should have done

1118
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:13.960
that with our special guests. Uh
huh, but that's gonna do it.

1119
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:16.840
Yeah, that's gonna be the end
of the show now. Thanks uh,

1120
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:21.800
Jeff and Alex and mystery guest for
for coming by. No problem, happy

1121
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.560
to be here. I guess come
by. What are talking about? I

1122
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:26.920
came up to your house. I
drive Yeah, no, thanks for having

1123
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.800
me over. Thanks for using my
microphones and all of my audio equipment with

1124
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.600
your laptop. Yeah this worked out
well, but hey, thanks for having

1125
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.239
me guys. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna keep showing up if

1126
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:42.039
that's cool. Yeah, I'm never
gonna I'm gonna leave now. We're never

1127
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.800
gonna tell you where or when we're
gonna be recording it, because because I

1128
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:46.359
just now that we're doing it on
a laptop and it's all bust powered,

1129
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:51.720
like we could be doing this in
the street, right we should street casting,

1130
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:58.119
literally anywhere streetcasting. We're I'm gonna
put hit street culture a cool cat.

1131
01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:01.840
I'm gonna build a PSP into escape
word. We're doing this, So

1132
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.000
tune in next week for for that. Until then, I got I gotta

1133
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:10.039
come up with some sort of good
closing. I want people to writing suggestions

1134
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:15.119
for a good closing line. How
about word bitch we out? Yeah,

1135
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:16.199
that's not bad. You wanta do
you want to do that again? Let

1136
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:20.560
that be our our our our closure. Jeff send us out, Jeff take

1137
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:25.039
us home? Or word word bitch
we out? Was that what we decided on