Back by popular demand. It's uh the air pointing down podcasts. It's uh,
February twenty fourth. I'm Ryan Davis. I am joined by TV's own
Jeff Gerstman. Hello, Ryan Davis, And also sitting on the other side
of the couch is Alex Navarro. Alex, what's up. I'm not TV's
Alex Navar. You're not TV's Alex Navarro. They've ever been on television.
I've never been on television at all, not even like background shot. It's
like during a news not that I'm aware of. No, No, I'm
pretty sure that's never happened. He's the man with a face for radio.
So kind of problem dude. So yeah, Hey, hey guys, what's
up? Not much, just still glad we got all this stuff set up.
It's like we're kind of comically sprawled out across my living room here.
Yeah. I like that. You're let's let's I want to paint a word
picture for the folks at home. Uh. We're in Jeff's living room right
now recording this. I'm so in person this time. Yeah. Uh.
Jeff has a large L shaped couch, very very luxurious. It's sleep seven.
It does it's a sweet ninety degree angle. I slept on it last
night. It was fantastic. And uh, I'm sitting on one extreme end
of it. And there's a little they like a little separate seat things.
I'm gonna bust out my totally do enjoy it now, all right, my
feet are up now for a reason. Alex is basically sitting at the other
side of the angle from me. Also, pillows for arm rests. I've
got I've got a dale. Uh you know number three cars number three,
man, number three, I've got an intend before people think it, so
there's actually a pillow shaped like the number three car. Note ear's head,
No, which would be better? Is it shaped like a cut seat belt?
Oh? It's man like cut the intimidator seat belt. Man. Everybody
knows it. He was too good man. They had to They had to
do him. And then in the other corner of the room, Jeff has
a big professional Chinese microphone set up. This is a sick, sick Chinese
mic uh with complete with pop screen and everything. And he's standing there like
an R and B singer of some kind. Yeah, I'm standing here here.
You want me to put like a hand over an ear here? So
I can can you can you do the thing with the one hand where you
hold it up at different points next to your head and you didn't get It's
like, great the studio with Diddy right now, I'm making the band four
or something. Yeah, so I'll just do like hip hop ad libs the
whole I like, I won't say anything. Yeah, er pointed out,
Yeah, yeah, girl, huh damn. So that's uh, that's that's
the setup in the room here. Now that now we had this meeting of
the minds. Uh, what do we what do we want to talk about?
I guess nothing, dude, I don't know. No, Yeah,
we don't. We just end this now. Yeah, that's back up.
Hey that was That was the second episode of Air Pointing Down podcast. Thanks
for it was pretty awesome. Yeah, really interesting perspective on stuff. I'm
really glad you brought a lot to the table. And h I think we're
all better off having heard it. Fantastic. Uh, and I'm I'm also
just to continue painting the picture. Here. I'm drinking a delicious Paps blue
ribbon even quality quality beer. I've got a Cherry coke over here. It's
like coke but cherry. I've got a diet pepsi. It's like a coke
but pepsi. Jeff, you've also got a candy bar over there? You
want to talk about that? I do. Yeah, I picked this up.
I picked this up at a Walmart recently and just haven't gotten around to
eating it. It is a Snicker's nut and butter crunch, which is it
says it as limited editions, So I should probably shouldn't even be touching this
because it's not mint anymore. No, I see red wrapper on that.
It's reminding me a lot of the peanut butter Snicker's bar. Yeah, do
you think this is just the same damn thing? Milk, chocolate, peanuts
and creamy peanut butter taste is what it says here where did derive from?
What? Though? Yeah, it's a peanut butter taste. It it tastes
like peanut butter. It is not peanut butter, but it is still creamy.
That's that's peanut butter. Would be very similar to the beverage I had
last night? A did you have a peanut butter beverage? Last? Have
you seen? Have you seen this at the at the seven eleven that it's
a slurpy Chino. No, it's a it's a coffee flavored slurpy drink that
sounds kind of haunting. Yeah, I went to that. I went to
the seven eleven last night and saw that and said, well, I gotta
try that. How was it? Uh? I think Jeff can back this
up. He had a little taste of it. It's it's a slurpy.
It tastes and looks like a slurpy. It's not like they like turned the
slurping machine into a frappuccino machine. Well, thank god for that, and
so and it's sweet in the way that a slurpy is. It's that kind
of syrupy, sugary sweetness right right. But then at the end there's this
little surprise. This little man jumps up and says, hey, it's also
coffee. Coffee kind of tastes like coffee, but it kind of like in
a really weird synthetic way. Right. Yeah, it's like it's like coffee
chemicals. They've distilled it down, like when when we're all eating pills and
we live on the moon base. Uh, this is what, well,
this is what all our food will taste like. I I envisioned that little
man sort of being dressed in like a like an eighteen hundred sort of you
know, eight British guy kind of you know, poppy, you know,
outfit, but also have them kind of a steampunk athetic aesthetic to him,
you know, like those guys are at GDC want steam punk very big.
Yeah, it's very hot right now. Yeah, but having a very having
an eleven an Elvin voice. Yes, back in the Future three is very
hot right now, very hot. It's a great movie. That doesn't that
isn't that basically the origination didn't didn't Martin Fly invent steampunk? Is that?
I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say yes. Also, so I didn't
want to get to to to derailed there with the slurpy thing. Jeff,
you want to get this open and try the Snickers here. Now. The
other thing is there's also Snickers. Oh what is it called. There's an
energy Snickers Oh, yes, the charge charge, not just Snickers energy.
Yeah, no, no. And they basically took like the ingredients of a
red Bull and somehow fitted into a Snicker's bar, which makes it taste like
a Snicker's bar, except then on the back end it's sort of like your
your slur Paccino story there on the back end of a energy Snickers is like
horrible chemical like like you're okay, you know what how chewing caffeinated gum tastes
like yeah, it's that kind of that weird taste back to your mouth.
Yeah, imagine that in candy bar form. Okay, we're gonna smell the
Snickers. Okay, smells like chocolate. Doesn't really smell any different than a
regular snick. So far, let's let's let's let's see it. That looks
like a snick, looks like a Snicker's bar. So far, so good.
Let's jump in first, bite hard? Uh huh? Where you keeping
it somewhere cold? Or well this house my house, that's rights. Yeah.
Another point very worth making, I think, is that it is freezing
damn cold in Jeff's house because it's heat or broke my heat or broke it
doesn't work. Oh wow, okay that's what whis. Also why Jeff is
wearing the sweet neck thing that he has on. I'm just warning that so
I can pull it up like I'm a ninja. That's true, All right,
Bite one, Jeff, You're you're into it tastes like a Snicker's bar.
Yeah, I mean that's kind of the My issue with this concept is
Snickers bars are peanut peanut ea inherently like is it like is it sweeter kind
of thing on the on the on the under end, there is there is
there a greater intensity of peanutness. No, okay, so it's really not
getting So basically it's a Snicker's bar. It tastes like a not very not
a great. It tastes like a subpar Snicker's bar. Huh, you bother
said a regular story. You didn't buy this at the grocery outlet or something.
No, no, this is not used food. This at a Walmart.
Okay, America shops at Walmart. Jack, it's t box stores.
Oh yeah, keep him out. Eccentrics. Don't even get me started.
I think I just did wait on what on keeping Petaluma egg eccentric egg centric?
Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of people here that don't want the
big box stores to come in and drive out our local flavor. They instead
want to force us all to leave town anytime we want to buy anything useful.
Yeah, that isn't a Didgerido or a Fedora. Well, you know,
whenever I need I know where to go. Now, that's that's good.
So so we're gonna pan the this this what's it called again? The
Snickers nut butter crunch? I guess you know, yeah, it doesn't tell
you spell it out for me, please, I want to know the exact
spelling of this. I want to know how how the marketing team attacked this
one and ut apostrophe? N right, butter crunch is is butter separate from
the nutting? Yes, it's on a separate line, and it is all
lowercase. And now butter crunch is not one word. There's a space between
butter and crunch. Okay's three words, three word phrase here forward phrase.
I guess with the Snickers on the front, I think the separate so five
yeah, so peanuts, so Snickers nut butter crunch. And it was kind
of like those peanut butter Snickers that they would try to come out with,
but not quite as peanut buttery. I guess, alright, so they try
to strike a middle road, and I don't know, it's not different enough.
It fails to differentiate itself. It is the World War two first person
shooter of candy bars. Okay, no watching McCall, that's for damn sure.
Now what is I love a watching mccolloges. Yeah, I still love
an Abba Zabba. I feel absolutely also, And I think this is this
is kind of like the lesser known cousin of the Abba Zabba is the Big
Hunk, which is quite tasty. It's like an Abba Zabba, but with
just like nuts in it instead of like the peanut butter seven had a big
hunk in a long time, like a good big hunk. Would you step
to the punk with a big hunk? I don't know what that means,
slap it from his hands as he hit him with a clunk to the grin.
Uh So. So there there's our our air pointing down food minute.
So we're get into our next topic. I actually wanted to I guess this.
I'll use this as a segue into our next topic. Now. Now
it's the air pointing down drink minute. Yeah. Now it's the air pointing
down beverage taste test minute, which we've already established as being a core part
of the show. Blue Ribbon is Delicious, which people which people also really
excited about. Yeah, a lot of really great feedback. Pretty much everyone's
like, yes, please more. After our lengthy Gatorade Tigers. I guess
before we get in at New Territory, we should briefly touch on last week's
Gatorade Tiger. Oh yes, yes, okay, yeah, let's let's let's
I was not here for this, but wrap that some So last week we
I discovered the Gatorade Tiger, three flavors of Gatorade branded with Tiger Woods and
tried tried them out on the air, and I found out like the red
which we discovered as Red Dry, Red Dry. Jeff, after we finished
recording that, your your interest was peaked, Oh for sure. Yes,
I am a beverage enthusiast and had to immediately get out there and find some
of this stuff. I couldn't find it in the convenience door or gas station.
Environment had to actually go to a supermarket to get it. Anyway,
I got one of each flavor and tried them, and I think I'm with
you in that the citrus flavor is my least favorite, and the grape is
is great, and the Red Red Drive Red Drive is really though, I
think the standout flavor of the three because it is the most unique. Yes,
yes, that's we we did that last week, Jeff Glad you were
able to say, get on boarding. Are you gonna be drinking the Gatorade
Tiger on a regular basis? You think, well, it's like they're selling
the big bottles of it for a dollar apiece right now. And I was
thinking about, Yeah, I was thinking about just stalking up on a bunch
of those while they're all introductory, because I do I'll do like a Gatorade
now and then. I'm just thinking, if you keep talking about it,
maybe they'll just send you some The good people at Gatorade, it's maybe you
know you are promoting. They're fine product. We're not being paid to talk
about Gatorade. We just enjoy Gatorade. We enjoy electrolytes. But that does
not mean you should not parlay your love of Gatorade and to get in some
free game. My love of Gatorade is not for sale. Sir, Jeff
has very strong Gatorade integrity, his drink integrity. It's admirable. It's very
admirable. Thank you, Thank you, Jeff. I want to know I
really respect you for that. Hey. Thanks, all right, So,
so last week was Gatorade. This week, I guess I should talk about
the time in between GDC Game Developers Conference two thousand and eight happened this past
week, and we all went and kind of kicked it and had some fun,
saw some stuff, saw some people. I think it was alex degree
generally a productive indeed, quite and really fun. Yeah, a lot of
fun. It was. It was surprising how interesting some of the stuff that
went on at that show was, especially considering you know, we got to
go and just kind of do what we wanted for the most part. Yeah,
it's kind of a big change of pace for us. Absolutely. So.
One of the things that's that was kind of an odd thing at the
show was when I went into get registered for as AS media and get my
badge and everything. They gave you this little black tote and it as uh,
you know, scheduling information about you know, when sessions going on,
maps, brochure INMPO, about like the sponsors and stuff. Yeah, brochure
stuff, stuff for g DC Paris, and stuff for a Tokyo Game Show.
TGS boot space booking up now they're there. You gotta order by June
if you want a TGS booth. All right, we need to get our
TGS booth set up. Yeah for sure, all right, I'm just gonna
get my own and then just sleep in there the entire show. That's cool,
just say American man sleep and then have it have the no camera sign
and I'll just stand out front and make X signs with my hands. No,
no date, no date. Also in that tote, in that very
in that lovely tote was a ping pong ball. Yes, okay, which
was I did? I never figured out why that was there. It had
something, It had some some some corporate logo on brand logo on it.
And then also, uh, this little bottle of terrifying drink. Yeah,
six hour energy Mini Thin Rush dietary supplement. It offers instant energy, no
crash, sugar free and less than one carb. Now let me it's actually
the Mini Thin brand on there. Yeah, it is as in like the
asthma medication that you that truckers take, stay awake when you kids, real
speed or whatever. Now let me let me let me preface this a little
bit. I have experience with the actual Mini Thins like taking them, and
it is the one time I ever took them, it sent me off into
what I could only describe as a psychotic break. So, yeah, I
can see you. You don't need many things. No, well, I
needed them because I had been up at twenty four hours at the time,
so I needed them to perfect to not die essentially. Well, then that
just pushes you over the edge. Yeah, so, but that that stuff
is dangerous in every possible way. I'm pretty sure I've had a manything experience,
and it was it basically led to me being so sped it up that
I had to just like sit still and do nothing like it was. It
was like I just so fast that I couldn't move. There was the year
dy three that everyone was spun out of their mind on stuff. So I'm
gonna I'm gonna go ahead and and on the air here test out. It
claims to be Verry flavored. Well, all right, that sounds delicious.
So it says shake. Well, so that means that there are it has
the ability to separate right now. To be fair, I've tried this,
okay, Well, I had mine on Friday, or I had a couple
of them, so I took one on Friday. Hold, let's let's hold
all a pinion on this until after I get into this. I sha'n't spoil
it for anyone. I want to. I want to get an unbiased,
you know, reaction. I was gonna say, Jeff, thank you for
holding my mic. All right, we're racking it open. You can you
can go ahead and commentate now here. I'll do the play by pay.
So he's opening it up, he's trying to he's struggling with the sort of
wrapper on the end. It's like a plastic shrink rap rapper. Oh,
and then you just take the whole wrapper off. All right, it's beautiful.
Now it's a white bottle, is an innocuous white bottle that clearly is
not dangerous or just it's actually it's actually h hand low shit, and my
hands get really dry. All right, So let's have a little sniff.
Smells kind of like a kool aid, like fruit punch kool aid. Okay
is the initial Yeah, yeah, you can get a little bit of that.
Yeah, Jeff, you're standing up. You're good. Searo that in
a snifter before you you take a shot of that. No, that's that's
plenty of now, Alex, you have had previous experience with this. Should
I just try and throw it back or should I sip it? You know,
I started sipping it and it was not good, So I just I
shot the whole thing. I'm gonna sip it, all right. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with my my. Uh. Actually, you know what,
it tastes like sugar free kool Aid, like the fruit punch flavor. Yeah.
Uh, actually not that strong a taste. I expected it to kind
of kick me in the teeth a little bit. You expect it to be
way more like acidic. Yeah, Jeff, you want to get this to
go? No, No, I want you to have all Right, Well,
I'm gonna I'm gonna guzzle the rest of this back down. Thanks for
holding my Mike, Jeff, appreciate it. All right, Here we go
one, two, three, Oh, okay, all the chemicals were on
the bottom, weren't they. Wait did you do the whole thing at once?
Oh that's really bad. You should have shook weller. Oh yeah,
I didn't want to spoil that for you. That's what happened to me too,
is I think I said that. It was just sort of like,
oh, this is so bad, and then I just choked it and I
was like, oh God, what have I done. It's like ground up
pills at the bottom of it. Yeah. Let me give you a little
preview of what you're what's the store for you? All right? Oh god,
No, essentially, this is not as bad the trip to the hospital.
We'll get your stomach pumped. This is not as bad as like actually
taking many things. But for the early few hours at least, you will
be a bit manic. I mean not that people most people can tell when
I'm manic and not manic, but I was. I was getting a little
fucking crazy toward the middle of the day. And after that. Yeah,
there is no crash. You will not crash from this, but you will
sort of come to a sort of a gentle slope downward to where you just
start getting very sleepy afterward. All right, So well, I kind of,
you know, I last night was a little long, so I could
use a little little little boost, a little bump right now. So that's
uh, yeah, you're gonna be You're gonna be good for the next few
hours at least. Well, fantastic good podcasts gonna going forever. No,
keep talking about things. Stop hitting me. Uh, we want to talk
you guys, want to talk to any specifically about about stuff we did at
g DC. Jeff I, you and I have kind of covered this stuff
a little bit on our blogs. Yeah, I think we'd we documented a
lot of that stuff. You know, we just kind of ran around and
uh and had a good time. I feel like we made a good set
of choices on which sessions to go watch and saw some interesting stuff. And
the kind of nightlife afterward was was interesting and productive and full of open bars
and that sort of thing. I kind of felt like it was a Thursday
night, which is kind of second night of the show proper. Yeah,
there was there Monday and Tuesday. There was stuff too, but that didn't
really count. Uh, just like crazy amounts of parties. Yeah, yeah,
they call it Sweet Night. And at the hotel there near the convention
center, like basically every single suite on a certain floor had been rented out
by a different company and they were all running parties. But it seemed like
the only one I heard anyone talking about was the Prototype party. Two K
had a Sweet there, IDAs had a suite there. Didn't go over there,
but that was and we made it into the protype party, which then
got like fire marshaled and they weren't allowing more people. Yeah, basically what
happened is like the Will Write EA talk was a couple of blocks away and
then that kind of spun down and they started charging people for drinks, which
is a clear sign that it's time to leave. Yeah, so everyone kind
of just like I remember, like like Sam Kennedy showed up like after everything
was kind of dissipating. He's like, yeah, I just came by here
and I don't know, We're gonna go over to the uh this prototype party.
And I was like, oh, where's that. There's a the W
Like all right, all right, ran over found you know, found Jehan
Carlo and and you are like, what are we gonna do? It's like
we're going to w H Yeah, And then it was absolutely crazy that night.
I felt like I was in some sort of like developer wonderland. Like
I'm just walking down the street towards the Will Write thing. It's like,
oh, there's Gabe Newell walking down the street. This guy made Half Live
just kind of trucking along with its posse. And then we go it's like,
oh, it's Will right, He's staying there talking to us about all
sorts of crazy stuff. Yeah, the Will Write talk. There's audio of
it. And I know like they had they had a camera stand. They
had a camera stand, and I saw like four or five cameras up there.
I don't know what people are doing with that footage, but his talk
was very clearly videotaped, which is the right way to see it. The
audio will do a decent job, but without kind of seeing the power point
presentation that goes with it, which which was kind of charmingly handmade. Yeah,
definitely, it was. It was a very adore power point present those.
It was clever and everything, and it was it was you know,
it fit the talk, but it was it was odd kind of just the
how how cut and paste, Like you could tell that well Wright did not
have his power point person do this, like, well, right, is
that down? I'm not gonna waste your time with this stuff, and that's
my talk I'm gonna do. That's why everyone loves well write. I mean
I was talking to a friend of mine and she's like, I just I
want him to be my dad, you know, like he's just he's just
that so lovable. I see him more as kind of a fun uncle.
Yeah, yeah, fun uncle who knows lots of weird stuff. Totally.
Uh So that was that was absolutely a blast. If you could find that
online, either the audio or the video wherever that is. I guess I'll
try and find try and hunt that down and give people links for that stuff.
Yeah, there's only to the audio in somewhere in one of the comments
on my blog. That's right, I'll go dredge something up and I'll post
that in this in this uh the post for this now, from what I
hear, we never actually went to the craziest party of the entire show,
Like none of us did. I was. I was hanging out with a
friend of mine last night and he was saying, like there was like something
he just referred to as the White Wolf Party. Yeah, people kept talking
about that, and I had heard it. It was like in past years
that it was lame, that it was like they tried to make it be
like the craziest GDC pot Well, and the thing is, I think this
year they I mean, they were still trying way, way hard, but
like it officially went over the edge because it was at an S and M
club. It's like and they have like midgets and like fire fire and apparently,
as my friend said, on the way out, he saw people fucking
on a couch, like just hanging out and having sex on a couch.
Well, at this party and there was someone like sitting next to them while
it was happening, looking very disturbed and unhappy about the whole thing. And
yeah, so we went to the wrong parties essentially. That was. That
was clearly where we Yeah, like I remember like brief flashes of the prototype
party. They had hot dogs there and someone was like, white Wolf party
is nigger girls. It was. It was super loud at that that prototype
thing. Yeah, super loud and super pack and super super hot. Yeah,
it was. It was fun. And then also as I like when
I was leaving the protype thing to to get some damn air, uh so,
Ken Levine just just times like walking around his hair very spiky, extremely
spiky hair on that man. Uh So, yeah, that was. That
was kind of Actually, do you guys want to talk a little bit about
Friday night? I didn't actually or Friday at GDC. I didn't actually make
it to the show for the third day, thanks thanks to Thursday night.
Yeah, I mean you drunk yourself out of Friday, which is which I
only feel like what I really missed out on was hearing Eric will Paw talk
about, uh, you know, this story stuff and kind of doing the
post post mortem on portal and that was the best thing in the whole show,
and you missed it. You know, I still think that that probably
the will write thing. Yeah, I still I still had the sense that
that trumped it. I'm talking about like dis as far as like the actual
proper show goes. Oh yeah, sure, yeah that was I saw.
Yeah, I don't doubt it. Yeah, it was good. I mean
it was an interesting talk and Eric will Pos, you know, a pretty
good speaker, so it was looking Kim Swift as well also, she she
did fine job, and it was a pretty compelling presentation. Not I mean,
not a ton of information in there. It was more just like common
sense stuff of like oh yeah, why wouldn't you do it that way?
But uh yeah, oh hey, our our our special guest, our fourth
fourth man is in the room, special guest. How's it going. Yeah,
yeah, cool, welcome. So that that's kind of GDC in a
nutshell, a lot of fun. I guess it's it's but it's the kind
of the conversation I was having with with with other game writers out there is
you know a lot of people being frustrated, like trying to cover this,
like this show in a conventional like kind of product oriented well, because there
really there wasn't a lot of games to be played or to be seen,
like there were some, but there was a lot of these sessions where yeah,
people that are making games right now, that have games coming out,
but they weren't necessarily talking at least, Like the sid Meyer talk was definitely
interesting because it was sid Meyer talking about what sid Meyer has done over the
years and kind of his his philosophies, but it wasn't focused on the new
CIEV game they talked like, Yeah, they talked very very briefly about Yeah.
So so if if you're trying to come it out out of that when
and distill it down to tidbits of new information, you know, there's nothing
there for you, not a lot to be had. Yeah, but you
know, just kind of going and seeing these people talk and kind of witnessing
kind of the personalities and kind of who these people are that make some of
these great games, and and kind of hearing their philosophies and and their trials
and tribulations as they develop games. That was really fascinating. Yeah, that's
just also pretty hard to convey because they don't let you film that stuff.
Because I guess like the GDC people sell it, or they sell audio tapes
or something like that, because ostensibly you're supposed to be learning how to make
games from it. Tapes. They have tapes, set tapes, kase singles.
You get it to twelve twelve inch singles. Actually, actually it's it's
on wire, okay, yeah, use wire recordings for that. That's good.
Yeah, big, big fat real, the real, oh good good.
Actually have the the Edison wax cylinder that they's those players right. Perhaps
they've upgraded Sense to some sort of digital format. I don't know for sure.
I kept on having. One of the things I thought was on tape
really funny during all the sessions was that they had because you get a lot
of international developers coming here, you have a lot of Japanese speakers. Take
my shoes giving sessions, Oh god, oh you take okay, at least
not taking nice no shows. You have very short socks. They're very short,
especially for the weather. Yeah, it's it's damn cold, damn cold
and rainy, and I'm wearing as that. I'm seeing more of your ankle
than I think I want to get, like Hillary Clinton ankles over there,
ye, but so so a lot of Japanese developers they're going to sessions,
and a lot of Japanese developers giving sessions. So they had a lot of
people translating at these at these sessions, and you could get like little headphones
and I kept on like feeling the urge to grab like the Japanese ones sit
there and just listen to the translator talk, yeah, translating what sid Meier
is saying. What does a translator have to say about what Lewis Castle is
saying about Boom Blocks right now? Exactly? Yeah, I wanted to that
was that was a neat session. That was a regular one. It was
yeah, Castle talk about but again Lewis Castle talking about Boom Blocks, which
is one of the Steven Spielberg games that EA is putting out. Uh,
and they you know, they showed the game very briefly, but mostly they
were talking about kind of their processes in making. Yeah, you didn't leave
that with too many nuggets of new information about the game itself. I guess
the one thing is like, oh, here, here's an Easter egg from
the game at the end there and he showed something and talked about head tracking,
yeah, and how you'd be able to eat somehow set up head tracking
in the game, which I think, don't what are you like duct taping
the sensor bar on the weed your face at that point? Yeah, that
or he also said you could get like there are glasses that have little led
lights, like basically anything with two like you know, infrared lights that it
can pinpoint from. Then you put like we were like two we remotes on
the TV, like above the TV itself, and it gives you that weird
head tracking effect where where it basically, you know, while you look around
it seems like you are looking. It gives it a greater sense of depth
in this weird kind of way. I guess I don't know that. Well,
if you've ever seen any of the videos online, it's it's trippy how
effective it is in other applications. I'll be curious to see. It's,
you know, fun little thing to throw in there. But again, not
a lot of video game specific information. Yeah, there were a few sessions
that were a little bit better for that, the one for prototype like dude
played it for like ten minutes, and specially the app session. Yeah,
the app session were the other one. They apparently showed a lot of the
game there too, which I hear was awesome. Yeah, you drive the
cop car at level four, you can get a gun. You drive through
the donut shop to get more time, you hit the buttons to rough up
the hippie and stop them selling dope. Nice great arcade, and you and
you can and you can still you can make me a moto in APV.
I think Jeff was having a different conversation from you just now. Yeah.
No, I'm saying you could make me a moto in the APV arcade game.
And then I guess Gears War two announced to GDS, right, Yeah,
they announced the keynote. The thing that everyone figured would happen fully happened.
Great, no, no, no surprise. I feel like it's almost
non news, like like how coy Microsoft has been about there being a Gears
of War two is pretty ridiculous. I will say that I'm a little surprised
that they're aiming for Holiday O eight. That that seems obviously they you know,
they need it, they well they need it, and they obviously you
know, jumped right on development of that right after they finished the first one.
Right, but that still seems just I don't know, that seems awful
soon. No, I mean you know whatever. Halo came out last year,
Gears of War comes out this year. I guess, yeah, you
have your you gotta alternate franchises somehow. Yeah, that it that, it
seems perfect. Really, it's it's about the right time. It'll be two
years. I guess it would be two years from yats. Yeah, that's
solid. That's a good amount of time. So Nope, that that wasn't
much a big surprise. Yeah, and there was other stuff like the X
and A announcement that Microsoft made like they're gonna finally let those X and A
games get out to the the average joe like you and me without as much
of a hassle like this holiday season. But if you haven't yet, I
think they might still be up. Yeah. I think you can still download
them until like March, until to night. No the download there's two expiration
dates for this stuff. Yeah, so because this is just a preview of
something that they're going to be putting out in December, Like, you can
download these seven XNA demos of these cool little well some of them are cool,
some of them are actually not so great. These little games that just
people have made using the XNA software, which is just the kind of homebrew
development stuff for the Xbox three sixty kind of a subscription service. It's basically
the new net year rosie. Yeah, yeah, basically, and you don't
need a special stupid piece of hardware for it, right, And you can
download those up until tomorrow and then they'll be playable for maybe another two weeks
or something like that, right, Which which ones? Did you? I
downloaded all of them because I want to check this stuff out, because I
do like that these kind of bite sized games that they've been cranking out for
the Xbox Live Arcade, and this seems like, you know, it's kind
of a homemade bite bite. So the little little demo versions. Uh,
The only one that I've actually gotten into or played at all yet is the
Dishwasher yep, which it involves no washing of dishes, right, and instead
involves using a cleaver to hack robots apart. And I want to say robots,
And when I say robots, I'm putting air quotes around. See you
over there doing bunny rabbits. They're dancing around like so this somehow means that
you don't think that they're actually yeah, yeah, I have suspicions about where
where the story for that game goes, but a pretty slick little thing,
very stylist, kind of dark and nasty and very gory. You do big
fat, nasty finishing moves on dudes and cut them in half. A good
deal of fun. Actually reminded me in some ways. A bit of No
More Heroes really kind of reminded me of like Devil May Cry. It's all
combo based and you can launch them up in the air and jack them up
more up there and stuff like that, I guess, just in the finishing
movie thing, and also using it as a transition to start talking about no
More Heroes. Fine, be that way, all right, fucking now we're
talking about no more heroes? What's up? That was pretty transition transition.
Fifty years got a feather the clutch. That's very nice. It's very fine.
Yeah, great. The other X and A games apparently don't matter.
Jelly Car. Sorry, I wanted to talk about Jelly Car for an hour,
but now we're not gonna do you want to talk about you like,
no, no, not anymore, no more. Listen. He put it
back into reverse. The jelly car does not go backwards, but this car,
the air pointing down podcast that's going Uh, okay, I'm sorry.
I was that was presumptuous to be I did. Okay. I will just
wrap it up by saying, the other six games are not as good as
the Dishwasher? What about Jelly Car? Uh? Does that even come a
fan? I'm not a huge fan. I kind of neat. Some people
kind of liked it, Yeah, but I do highly recommend folks at home,
Uh download all of these X and A stuff and yes, give it
a look see for yourself, if for nothing else, just to you know,
let Microsoft know that people are interested in this stuff and even though they
made it super convoluted to find it. It's ridiculous, Like there's a there's
a instruction video on the Xbox oh, on the little inside Xbox. Yeah,
like Nelson sits there with a dude and you know, tells you how
to navigate. Let's go through this horribly convoluted process where you download this program
and then hit the Y button to download other programs and it's it's yeah,
there's steps that it just seems like, why didn't you just take out that
step? Well? I think because it's going to be a preview for their
program. I mean that's why all this stuff is going away so soon because
it's just a preview for something they're going to do in like December and they
just haven't gotten it together yet or something, all right, So that's that's
X and A stuff. That's I guess that's kind of GDC fellas mystery guest.
Do you have anything to dad thumbs up, thumbs up, thumbastic.
Yeah, I mean, you know, like played street Fighter four. That's
pretty awesome. Oh yeah, uh fireballs, Yeah, if you hit,
if you duck and hit medium kick and then do a fireball at combos and
that's awesome. That's that's all I want that game to do. It does
it so you can hundred hand slap dudes, So that's good. Kind of
you kind of had the similar experience with Smash Brothers, all right, that
that was actually playable on the on the show floor. I went out there
and played some Smash Brothers and yeah, it is exactly what you would think
a Smash Brothers game would be. So I don't need to play it then
if you if it's not your thing. I've never liked Brothers. I'm not
a I'm not a huge fan. I think I think the single player probably
pretty cool though, but yeah, I just I just find those games just
be a chaotic mess. Like when you actually get a full four player Smash
Brothers game going on, I just feel like, yeah, I'm just gonna
close my eyes and press A and I will probably do as well. Maybe
I'm just not good. I know people talk about there being the tournament scene
death if someone else touches my controller, I can't play no Smash Brothers.
We need to go get another controller. There's a serious, high level kind
of play to that game. You know, you just not playing it right,
You just don't know what you're doing. No, apparently not apparently.
Yeah, apparently these dudes are way into this game, and and great for
them. They're crazy, but great, great for them. Yeah, glad,
glad they found something they like. Ye, do we want to move
on? Yeah? What's this No More Heroes game? Actually, before we
talk about that, Jeff, goddamn, but I wanted actually, well,
let's I wanted to pepper our our various interests into this podcast. There is
a empty McDonald's bag sitting in the middle of the floor of the living room.
This is from Breakfast. It's for breakfast. Yeah, do you want
to do you want to talk about this at all, Jeff, are we
having another food discussion? No? Not, not really, Okay, I
think I've got a lawsuit here. I think you got you think this is
actionable. I think this might be actionable. If it's not the letter,
it's the spirit, all right, I'm gonna read from the side of this
bag. We use one hundred percent beef in every burger, and there's no
percent better than that. Hm. I feel like I've heard of that before,
or you've seen it on the internet, perhaps on the internet under a
photo of me, where it said you can't beat one hundred percent. I
think this is clearly McDonald's is stealing which you came up with that. You
came up with that phrase on your own. You came up with it,
you can't beat one hundred percent? Yes, while I was asleep, that
came to me, and then I woke up and wrote it down and then
left the house. Yeah, but you wrote it down, but I wrote
it down. That's what did you actually like? Trade market? I wrote
it down the back of a receipt that's as official as it needed as anything
can get. There was a receipt, like money exchanged hands to get that
receipt. Yeah, so it's official documentation. Okay, it's it's admissible in
court. Yeah, exactly, like that, I can't dispute that the receipt
is in Jack. So do you think you would have been more or less
upset over this if if it just said and you can't beat one hundred percent
on the back of that McDonald's bag. Mhmm, equally So, I don't
know. I can't decide. You'd just be more emotional both ways. You
would be both more excited and more pissed off. Yeah exactly. It would
move the needle one way and then kerker back the other, and it would
end up in the same way the sense of everything. Then, Yeah,
I couldn't talk loud around you or else it would hurt your ears. Yeah,
pretty much. So you get for you know, put it on the
internet, Man, I didn't put it on well I guess I did put
it on the internet on the internet, and then other people pass it around
the internet. Yeah. Uh well fantastic. So so best luck TI on
best luck to McDonald's on your on your lawsuit against McDonald's. Yeah exactly.
Uh so, nowhere here I will settle for mcgriddles settle for lifetime mcgriddles,
not just like seven or something like, I don't know, like some we'll
swing for the fences, man, gotta go big, all right, Okay,
well all right if we're if we're gonna swing for the fences, I
want lifetime mcgribbs. Oh well, what you want is mcribbs all the time?
That's yes, what I'm saying if they give you, if you if
you signed up with them and said I want lifetime mcribs, then you would
only you would still only get mcribs like once every four years or something,
because that's as often as they as they right, Yeah, I want I
want mcribs as also as often as I want a McRib yeah, which is
pretty often. Would you want one right now? Yep? I can go
for McRib although I can only use I can only go for about half a
McRib before I realized that I don't want a McRib Do you realize actually just
eating like tire rubber that's been like just dumped barbecue barbecue tire rubber. Yeah,
they put a little grill like they put a little rib mark on it.
They burned that into it like it was a real ribb. But yeah,
they like shape it and not like a bunch of grain or whatever.
It actually it's primarily soy. Yeah, yeah, that's not that's not really
rib. It's actually the McRib fun fact actually vegan wow. Yeah, actually
a vegan products. So I've always I always just figured it was like ribs
shavings, like just like they too, like got a bunch of like you
know, racks of ribs from the fucking cattlemans or something, and you know,
just rib dust and they just you know, whatever's left over they just
kind of scrape off and then they just like put it together into like a
little mold and then they hit them. They you know, clunk the thing
down, and all of a sudden there's like mcribb because all the meat has
sort of jeeled into one thing. There is, Yes, there is definitely
a McRib factory. Yeah, somewhere or maybe they're grown I don't say it's
somewhere in Taipei. They're grown in petri dishes. I think hydroponically. They
grow nice right exactly, you gotta have grow lights ten twelve hours on,
twelve hours off. Mcribbs are grown next to the bomb ass weed, is
what you're saying. And you gotta make sure you gotta separate your your your
genders. Got to make sure that the males and females aren't aren't close to
about it. Yeah, no good can come of that. Yeah, mcribbs
start breeding. The world ends, all right, So that's a that's mcribbs.
Yeah, okay, No no more heroes. Let's bring back around,
all right, bring it back at There are no more heroes in the world
of mcgribb because you can't go get a mcribb. Yeah, I wish I
would could be a McRib hero and bring it to the children. Don't be
a hero, Jeff. So I I just finally, after after much gnashing
of teeth and resorting of game fly cues, I finally got a copy of
No More Heroes and dug into it. And I was not Killer seven,
the last game by by this designer suit of fifty one. Yeah. Grasshopper
folks, Yeah, the Grasshopper folks. I really liked it in concept.
I really appreciated what Killer seven was trying to do with its severe insane art
style and completely nonsensical story and almost almost complete lack of game player yeah,
and basically basic unplayability. But it was but that unplayability was so intense that
I just could not push through it. Yeah. Uh Past like the first
two levels, but No More Heroes is similarly completely out of its goddamn mind
but still totally play. I have to say, I I I'm totally enjoying
kind of the semi mindlessness of the of the gameplay of just you know,
run up to dudes and hitting a button a bunch and then swinging the Wii
remote to cut him in half or down the middle or whatever. Yeah,
and then just gushes and gushes and gushes of blood. Yes, bucket fountains,
fountains of of of blood. And then you collect coconuts for money.
Dude, totally, coconuts are worth more than human life. The moment that
I knew I liked that game was at the very beginning when the protagonist Travis
toucheddown. Yeah. Already great. Yeah, I was already very stoked knowing
that, knowing that going in. When he crashes into this this layer,
this mansion and he flies off of his motorcycle and as he's flying through the
air about to attack uh like two bodyguards or something, he just screams,
fuck face. And then and then the then his his beam Katana not to
be confused with a lightsaber or a laser sword. And then there's yeah that
he hits them with it, and then just blood everywhere him. It was
just I was like immediately, like once that just the guy screaming fuck face
while flying through the air for no good reason. I was on board,
sold and it just it just keeps getting better for yeah yeah, wait,
wait do you getple and like all the other Burger supplex, No, there's
a pizza suplex. There are both. And then I did the mission.
I had to go and assassinate the CEO of Pizza Butt. Yeah. Yeah.
The only thing ahead, no ahead. I didn't really have anything to
add to that. No, go ahead, go ahead, Aux ahead,
go ahead, No, go ahead, Jeff you one go ahead? No
you go ahead? Go ahead, you guys go ahead. No someone,
I'll catch up with you later. Yeah, I'm leaving. I'll see you,
all right, take it easy. The only thing I gotta say that
I'm not loving about the game is driving around Santa Destroy. I love Santa
Destroy. It's great name is Yeah. I think that's kind of the point
though, is that it's the open world stuff is supposed to kind of Yeah,
it's like you just have this like horrible motorcycle. It's impossible to turn.
It looks like a budget yes, two games rings one game or something
like parts of that game yeah, like look aggressively bad on purpose. Well
like yeah, like the way like the coins fly out of the dudes when
you cut them down. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I think that was the
point of the open world stuff, is that, like open world games are
kind of dumb. So yeah, it just looks like a simple two thousand
game, like it might as well be the driving. Yeah, it's like,
here, check it out. We're just gonna have this open world because
how hysterical would that be to just throw that in for no reason? Yeah,
there's not really anything to do in the open world other than drive to
the location and then take on missions. Yeah, it's like it's like they
just sat down and said, what do these Americans like? They like to
drive around aimlessly around a big open world. Let's just give them that.
Then nothing to do, like even like that there's pedestrians and can run them
over the disappear they just got and they disappear, and like you can you
can boost on your bike, like you can get a little speed boost.
Yeah, no, real good reason too. Yeah, you can like knock
down phone polls and you know, stop lights and coconut trees and stuff.
Just no, no real consequence of anything. How dare you knock over a
coconut tree? What did we just what would we just finished talking about?
With coconuts? I forgot coconuts are worth more than human life. All right,
settle down, Jeff, I'm not gonna Jeff, go ahead, go
ahead, go ahead. No, I'm just gonna take a drink. You
go ahead, Alex go ahead, No, you go ahead. I got
it this thing. You go ahead. I'm sorry I was I was midsip
there, So yeah, I highly recommend the No More Heroes for people who
want complete extremely emorated lunacy on their Wii. Yeah. Certainly one of the
best games I've played on the way love the guy who plays Travis Touchdown one
of the many insane crazy collecting wrestling masks and remembering old pro wrestling moves,
which I guess I imagine will or I hope we'll pay off at some point
in the story. If you read the manual, it kind of alludes to
some stuff like that. So yeah, fantastic that's a that's that's kind of
what I have been playing most recently. Didn't really play a lot of games
during GC that kind of precluded no. I like, I went to a
couple of appointments here and there for stuff that I was, you know,
actually supposed to cover, but apart from Street Fighter, and I played a
little Echo Chrome for the p S three talk about that. I want to
know, that game looks really interesting one Echo Chrome, Yeah, kind of
mc esure, but walking on top of it look neat. It looks really
neat, and and you know, the controls are very simple. You know,
you just kind of rotate the camera to change the perspective of what you're
looking at, and that in turn, like basically perspective becomes reality. So
all of a sudden, looks like it's lower than he'll fall off and fall
and catch it because it's now lower even though it was higher a second ago,
and be a little holes and you have to position something under the hole
so he can fall onto something, and and it's just it's a it's neat
to the camera becomes much more of an active part of the game and not
right like how your view like I think I think your only other control is
to get your dude to stop walking. Like if you want to stop him
and kind of plan out what you're gonna do, you can do that.
But other than that, yeah, it just he just kind of goes.
That's pretty awesome. That's fascinating. It sounds a little bit like, uh,
maybe a little bit like Crush and then it plays with perspective a lot.
Yeah, it's it's a little similar, but it's I mean not so
much. I mean, obviously there's like mechanical differences, but it seems kind
of like there's there's a bit of conceptual sure. Yeah, yeah, i'd
say that. Yeah, i'd agree with you. There. Uh I played
a little bit of Jumper. Oh yeah, but not at the show.
Not at the show. No, this was this was during the course of
the show. Well, we're done talking about the show. We're not talking
about the show anymore. Stop talking about the show. We did that segment
already. I watched someone played by on a commando at the show. Uh
you want to talk about commando? Looks? Okay, did you look at
it? Was it? Was it the re armed or was it even knows?
There's the real did the guys dreadlocks still look totally sweet. Yeah,
they look pretty good. I like, I like good white guys with dreadlocks
top top end like dreads. Because he's been in prison, we have a
dread it all a semi racist concept or completely ridiculous concept. Let's let's make
a dreadlock engine. Let's make that our middle speed speed dreads, speed dreads.
I'm actually working on that middleware. Fore your game middleware by the speed
dreads. Hero needs to have dreadlocks. We can, we can hook you
up. We're also working on speed scarves. But it's totally different. Yeah,
that's it's much different technology, much more complicated. Yeah, yeah,
so but look for that coming from us. So so uh so. Yeah.
Playing a little bit of Jumper, which reminds me a little bit gameplay
wise of Market the Cree. Oh, the Market Cree. If you remember
that, do you remember Mark? I do remember the Market Cree. I
was not a big fan of the Market Cree. It was that was definitely
a flawed game, but it just the way it had the like the like
different face buttons corresponded with attacking enemies in different ways. This is kind of
similar, and that there's like a little basically like a little ring on the
ground around enemies, and like on, there's four sides to it, and
those correspond to the four face buttons, and you can jump use your teleportation
ability to jump to other sides and hit them while they're not looking. U
Now, this game not not a bad not a bad concept, Like I
kind of want to like it, yeah, but just you know, mechanically
super clunky, very ugly game, bad charac And now this is a game
that is not starring the star of the movie so much as a side character
from the movie. So this is this is Jumper. Griffin's story is actually
the name of the game, which is tells the backstory of one of the
supporting characters from the film Jumper. Now, now who is who is Griffin?
Griffin is the kid who was the kid who played Billy Elliott. Okay,
done grown up, so now he's he's an adult and this is these
are the choices he's making for film roles. This is this is what happened
to the kid from looks supporting role and Jumper apparently very stupid. I kind
of want to see it too, because I like Doug Lyman stuff. But
I think it's just got a neat look, you know, like the jumping
looks kind of neat, it's conceptually, I don't know, but it's Hayden
Christians. Yeah, I guess that's kind of where falls apart. Apparently Eminem
was up for that role at one point. Great, yeah, before he
Skywalker. Yeah, that would have been a great fit. Think how much
better that that those movies would have been, I know, featuring Marshall Mathers
as Anakin Skywalker, introducing Introducing. I totally believe that that's the way more
couldn't have done worse than Hayden Christians. Yeah, really, why is that
guy still in movies? Really? Well, he's in, He's in.
He's not in movies, He's in Jumper. So, although I did also
recently learn that apparently Jumper Griffin's Story is the name of a book that the
author of the original book Jumper, upon which the film is loosely based.
Uh that like also that basically follows along with the game. I guess that
the sequel book is what the game has derived for It's so it's so convoluted
and ridiculous because there's a Jump, there's a rich Jumper fiction from which they
are drawing from. Here, I would say go ahead and take a pass
on Jumper Griffin Story. I hear, I hear. The achievement points are
rather easy. That's the one thing. That's the one thing that that kept
me playing for as long as I did. I'm probably gonna play some more.
But five hundred points that I gotten about an hour and a half,
two hours of play, Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good game to
me. So if you're if you're if you're into points, like Jeff is
into points, uh and I guess kind of like I'm into points, then
check out Jumper Griffin Story. But if you like to play games, don't.
Yeah, And as far as The Club goes, don't you'll play it
either way because it it doesn't have easy achievements and it's also not very good.
Okay, the Club. I'm still gonna check out The Club. I
God, I'm very conflicted about that game. Granted I haven't I haven't finished
it yet. I'm gonna review it at some point down the road here,
but there are It's just one of those games that, like, every once
in a while, I really want to like it, but it's just so
stupid. It doesn't do anything that's like particularly stylish or memorable. It's just
like run through these levels and shoot these guys and then do it more.
Yeah. Like I haven't played the final version, but I saw the demo
and I've seen it in the past, and it just it seems like they're
trying to make it a game where you are it's a shooter where you run
around and have to kill people with style, but that they don't necessarily give
you enough interesting ways to be stylish other than I'm gonna do a role before
I shoot you. It's that's pretty much the extent of it as far as
I can tell. And it's like, yeah, the multiplayers a little more
interesting, but it's still like the shooting mechanics aren't really interesting enough to sustain
it for very long. Sure so, and I'm sorry, I just find
the whole premise of the game. I'm not one that usually like nitpl nitpicks
like plot points and games like this, because whatever, it's not really the
point of it. But the whole concept for the game is incredibly stupid.
Like there's this club of guys that are like America. Yeah, yeah,
there's this club of guys that are like psychotic killers that go through these you
know, contests where they just have to go kill a bunch of guys and
you know, get the most points. I don't mind that part of it.
But where did they get these guys that sign up to shoot? Are
they just also people that are in the club? I don't They never explain
that they are those these like grunt dudes who can take like two bullets and
then they're dead. And it's like, well, if if you're one of
those guys, why would you ever show up to do that? Maybe at
the end you learn that all the bullets were fake. Yeah, maybe,
I don't know. I just for some reason I can't get past that,
and that's making it really hard to enjoy that game. Yeah, I think
for me, I guess that game coming from Bizarre Creations and kind of knowing
the like the Kudos system from the Project Gotham Racing Games, Yeah, I
guess I was kind of hoping for something as elaborate as that, and when
it came to chaining together different moves and stuff where it just be ringing up,
like I almost wanted it to just have kudos. Yeah, like all
right, I have spun of three sixty and then shot you, and then
I did a power over drift as I was running around this corner and shot
four more guys in the face. So yeah, I mean you look at
stuff like Total Overdose and like, you know, just Cause and whatever,
and there's just a lot more of style to games like that, you know,
like when't you're doing the kills and such, and this game just doesn't
do any of that, or you know, I mean even something like Max
Payne, which didn't necessarily give you points for stylish activity, but but you
wanted to because it was so dope. There was no diving and slow motion
in this game that I have encountered thus far, which is which sucks because
every game should have that. Yeah, totally. So that's the club.
That's the club, and the stub that's out. Yeah, and uh yeah,
I guess we're coming up on March. There's gonna be some stuff.
Yeah, do we want to do? I want to look at the calendar
here. There's no new there's no gaming new release calendar in my living room.
All right, all right, well we're gonna bring out this calendar here,
you guys, go ahead and any time. So, hey, Jeff,
what do you think about the oscars tonight? Oh? Or those those
are tonight. Who do you think it's gonna Who's gonna come away a winner
tonight? Man, Cobra. Yeah, Cobra is gonna get Best Picture Cobra.
Alright, are you still on to go see Cobra? Yes? Next,
next Sunday, Cobra. Next Sunday, we will be going to a
movie theater where they will be showing a midnight special guest showing do you want
to go see Cobra? Next Sunday, He's in, He sounds like he's
in, all right. And the week the week after that, Commando.
Yeah, and I'm gone. Yeah, we'll be signing autographs out in front
because of our roles in Cobra. Say hi to us at the opening gas
station. Come meet, Come meet the cast of Cobra. See here,
I played Channing pat Upon. Oh yeah, Patapond's out this week. Yeah
I hear. It's awesome. Yeah. People seem to like and they're they're
like selling for twenty bucks here or something. Right, So yeah, the
Lost game for the three six, Oh that's right, Yeah, I'm reviewing
that. I'll take a pass on that. I don't know anything about Lost,
don't watch I watch it pretty obsessively so I watch it and I hate
it. Yeah, And every time I watch it, I go, man,
I hate this show, but then you keep watching it. I keep
watching it. It's just I love it. Everybody love that. I hate
that everyone speaks in ellipsies and everyone, you know, does not include the
part of the sentence that would make anything makes sense. Like every time,
like at some point someone just has to say something that's a fact and not
just this. Last week's episode actually was like one of the more informative ones
I've seen in a long time, Like they actually but still just the fact
that they just piled pile things on. It's like they're, you know,
now they're off the goddamn island, and they've not explained anything that happened in
the past three seasons yet. I just, yeah, I feel like they're
there's there's no good payoff for that show. One day, it's all just
gonna come together and it's all gonna I don't believe that's what they said.
I'm not gonna Yeah. See, Jeff was burned on Twin Peaks. He
knows. That's why I don't watch TV anymore. And I loved Twin Peaks.
Basically, David Lynch's fault. Oh, and that's why I watched movies
on my I pod. Take that, David Lynch Ryan Uh one of my
favorite releases here on the counter, although this is uh shipping just in February.
Oh eight's who knows puzzle guzzle mmm guzzle of them puzzles? Are you
a puzzle guzzler, Jeff, Uh No, not professionally. Yeah. I
mean I have been playing a lot of Professor Layton, so I have been
chugging some puzzles, but I wouldn't call myself a puzzle guzzler. You're liking
it. People seem to really be entiten. Uh. Yeah, yeah,
except I'm really bad at match stick puzzles. So when every time one of
those comes up, like it's really hard because there's a fact that just lists
every single answer in the whole damn game, and once you've turned to it
once you're just like, dude, I'm not gonna I don't want to think
about this. Crape. Yeah, but yeah, I mean I used to
read a lot of like brain teasing books that were basically those exact same puzzles
growing up, and even then I would just turn right to the back and
look at the solution kind of work backwards that way. Jeff, did we
talk about end Plus at all last week? No? No, I think
we might have said that it was coming. Yeah, and Plus is out
and Plus plus is outbox you can buy it. Please, please do buy
it, although I will say I, yeah, and while you while you're
buying that, buy a copy of res HD. Yeah, buy both of
those. Please. H But I felt weird buying end Plus because you know,
you pay the ten bucks for it and it starts downloading, it's like
nineteen megs. I just feel like for ten bucks I should just get more
megs. Yeah, Like, even if they just pat it out and seventy
five megs, it's how big this is, and it's just it's it's just
yeah, it's just like we put a lot of music in here or something,
so music whatever. If they just garbage files, just junk files in
there to pat it out. Here, here's a text file that is ten
megs, that would make me feel somehow better. Yeah, that game is
about the epic quest of Ninja's versus gold, or it's more like Ninjas versus
Physics and lasers in search of gold. Yeah, but if the gold wasn't
there, they wouldn't be there, so it's gold's fault. So it's Nina
Ninjas versus gold. They're collecting the gold, not like destroying, not punching
gold. It's it's I don't know, I would Nazis have weird robots and
physics. If it's anything that video games are taught me is that Nazis have
technology well beyond our means. So you're saying that this is Ninja's verse,
is the occult? Yeah, it's like hell boy, read your Bible.
Yeah, it's like Castle Wolf's time. It's Castle Wolfan's time, but with
Ninjas. So where is it? Robot is Robot Hitler and the animal game
Master master d himself? Yes, you idiot? All right, that's that's
pretty cool. And then this week trigger Heart ex excelica. Yeah, that's
a crazy It was a Dreamcast shooter came out in Japan and Larashi did it
seven or something? Uh was a reason? Yeah that was a fairly recent
one. Was a recent Dreamcast really? God? Not like Yeah, and
it's some kind of shooter where you're anime girls that shoot. Okay, So
that's great. Yeah, I mean that's all I would want. I'll pay
the ten bucks for that. Yeah, like, and probably play it twice
like I did Omega five. I like Omega five. I just don't for
some reason don't want to play Omega five. It didn't really it didn't really
butter my Hide or anything that you like that from video games, because that's
buttering. I do get a fair amount of that. Actually, if it
doesn't putter my Hide, I don't give it anything higher than like a six.
Is that a six out of six or six out of ten? What
are we What are we talking here? What scoring system we talking here?
Six out of seven? Five? Okay? This odd cut off seven?
Five is the new ten cut coming up in the near future Army at two.
Oh yeah right, yes, that yes, looking forward to that one.
I it's weird because you hear whispers about it being a complete train wreck.
Yeah, well, I mean it did get delayed, and you know
it's got one of those I'm sure there are a lot of really good,
really bad development stories about it. All I'm saying is the one or two
levels that I played, like last year, like at the end of the
summer. Yeah, we're great, well good, that stuff was fun unless
they've gone around and fuck that up. And the rest of the game is
a complete pile of shit. I'm at least still looking forward to that one.
So that's on March of the four, and they talk about that soon.
Man, that's like this week also on Martin's or week after this one,
So like, oh, next Tuesday, Okay, this not this one?
What am I gonna do this week? Then well pack your pack your
bags. You're gonna be busy on on the fourth because Bully Scholarship Edition comes
to the the sixty. Also sweet, uh, super excited about that.
I actually I only played a little bit of Bully one two happy about that
because I really do want to play it on the three. I mean,
you know, I play. Yeah, I played Bully uh pretty excessively when
it came out on the on the PS two, and I am very excited
to play it again. Yeah, totally. And they're selling that for like
ten bucks off. I think it's like fifty on three sixty and Fantastic and
thirty or whatever it is. What's the other platform we we Oh, yeah,
it makes sense. I'll probably play the three sixty version that we remote
to Kiss Girls or Boar Boys. Don't forget that that's important. Very controversial.
This game teaches home moost sinuality to our children's as this orgasmic rape simulator
will not be allowed into our public school system, but I would very much
like to see it at my home in the dark. Here you go.
It's a port of Stroker for the Commodore sixty four. Great. Great,
Also in March of the fourth, March the fourth, pretty pretty jampack action
packed. Here's got a war Chains of Olympics. Yeah for the PSP,
which I hear is excellent from the few people I've talked to you who've played
it all the way through. At this I played, I played a little
bit of it. It looks like I got a war. Yeah, it
looks like I got a war. But it's it's handheld, right, has
a sex Meanny game? Again? Great? So handheld sex menty games?
Yeah? So yeah, Jack, I bet you're real familiar with those,
aren't. Jeff's wah looking further out and there's there's more and more exciting stuff
coming out because video games never sleep. Anything else you guys want to wrap
about. I met you're very energetic. I'm literally sitting on the edge of
my seat here now. Yeah, we should check in on that. How
is that? Are you sweating? Are you warm? Your scalp tingling at
all? No? But I feel like I am holding this microphone really tightly.
I'm really gripping onto this microphone. So realized that like my fingers white.
Alright, So how about like punch you in the shoulder a couple of
times we see if you feel it? All right? Ah yeah, yep,
yep, all right, that just hurts. Stop punching me. So
we have we have ascertained that he has not lost the ability to feel pain.
Yeah, I'm not like Renard. So it's not gonna be some illy
rage where you're picking up dumpsters and throwing in at the police. Well,
yeah, he still has a good fingers cross fingers crossed? Makes you had
a second one? Serena altshul is gonna be checking in on you at midnight.
Let's just say that. Illy. Oh questions, oh right, questions,
God, idiot, I forgot we solicited questions last week on the show.
Last week I got a ton of great questions. Though, I all
right, I can't believe a toy spaced out on that. Though, God,
oh I can. Jacob Broderson writes in from Denmark. Uh, he
wanted to hear us take on something as basic as controllers. What do we
prefer personally three sixty p S three, mouse and keyboard, perhaps even the
we mote. H If you had to pick only one controller from the history
of consoles, which would you pick? Probably the duel Shock two, I'd
probably say the duel Shock one. I probably said the duel Shock three.
So basically the consensus is duel Shock. We just can't decide which one.
Why would you Why would you pick the two or the one over the three.
It's it's wireless because it only works with the PlayStation three. Dude,
he's not asking. I mean, oh, well, that's the thing.
I don't like the six axis as uh. Actually, I'm not talking about
this. I've not used a dual Shock three, so I can't. Well,
I bought one. It's great, you like it. Yeah, But
at the same time, I've been playing a lot of three sixty games,
so I'm used to the tighter analog sticks of the three sixty, and the
dual Shock sticks are loose. God, the deep pad on the three sixty
one sucks. Yes, it does. Oh my god, it's it's it's
functional. Like I'm over it. Yeah, I'm pretty we're past the point
of bitching about that because everyone's gotten used to it. I think here's what
I don't Here's what I don't like about the dual Shock three, UH,
and the six axis as well. You don't like the USB port on it
smells kind of like burning electronics. I don't like those lower triggers. I
don't like those big, soft lower triggers like I would rather have either,
like the duel Shock two with the buttons. But driving games are better on
the PS three as a result of that, because they basically took that stuff
from the Xbox. I don't know, Like I've played a ton of burnout
with the duel Shock three, and it seems I like the better. I
like the triggers on the on that controller better, so I don't. I
don't like the bumper so much on the bumpers. I don't care so much
for it. Like the actual triggers on the controller I think are better than
those. Oh, let's let's see here. What else? What else?
All right? Here's a question from uh, someone who did not choose to
leave a name. It just says it's from I don't wear panties at email
account dot com. Right, it's probably not this this gentleman's real name.
Uh, gentleman, I'm going with it. Yeah, okay, that's that's
that's my guess, because that's not really a shocking email address if it's a
dude. No, Uh, how do you feel about Call of Duty five
going back to World War Two? Also? Where do you think Infinity Wards
to take the next cod? How do you feel about future settings? Uh?
Well, I guess yeah, call of Duty five if they go back
to World War two, snooze, totally totally done. Like I don't think
they've even officially announced that, but it seems it sounds like that's That's what
everyone seems to assume, is that Trey Ark's gonna do it, and it's
gonna be like Call of Duty three, Well, that's just gonna be the
your fall, your fall to that Star Trek movie scenario of every other one
is the good one and then the tray Arch ones are not so much the
good ones. Yeah, well whatever, I mean. I mean, Call
of Duty three was a fine game, and just you know, it's you
look back on it now that Call of Duty four is out and you're like,
dude, yeah, what do you want to go to not follow a
direct follow up to Call of Duty three. At this point, I'm not
played four. I don't want to play in a World War two first person
shooter ever. Again, yeah, I'm yeah. So so if if Call
of Duty five is World War two, I think everyone here takes a pass.
Yeah. As far as future settings for a Call of Duty game,
space not not not feeling it because I think part of what makes Call of
Duty four so thrilling is how they capture kind of the reality of this situation
with just the little details in all of the environments, like when you go
into that the TV studio, in that that early level, you know,
that stuff so great and having to you know, create this whole like a
fake future universe or something. I don't know, what if what if you
don't have to do that? What if it's just the same kind of war
torn scenario but in bass with lasers. But I guess the thing is that
doesn't add anything for me, that does not improve Lasers are pretty man,
that's the G I Joe game then, right, Yeah, they should make
Yes, Infinity Wars should make a G I. Joe game next, that's
what they should do. Forget about well, the movies coming out. The
live action movie is being filmed right now. They could butcher the whole things.
No, they didn't make it based on the cartoon, so there's not
crap. Miller isn't playing the baroness. God really, yes, who would
be better? Anyone would Hawk? Yeah, sure, yeah, but anyone
with dark hair would be a better pick for that. Clara for Lanilanie is
never a good pick for anything. Richie looks like a monkey right now.
Give her the glasses and whatever. It's perfect, like big bangs to cover
a gigantic forehead. Well, no, there's nothing could cover she does that.
It makes it look even weirder because there's there's that whole severe bang thing
going on right now. Girls sort of like one of those like African tribal
masks to cover her entire head. There's nothing that can cover that forehead.
All right, here's here's a question that is not video game related. Ja
jac writes in and says, first time listener, first time emailing. I
know that though being game reviewers, you have traveled the world. Okay,
I'm sorry, I know that through being game reviewers you have traveled the world
and have seen many things. What are the craziest foods you encountered overseas,
I think. I mean, I haven't really done too much world traveling.
I've been to London a couple of times and and Tokyo probably seven or eight
times. But but like I've never been to Canada or Mexico. I've also
never been to Canada. I've been to Canada. I could speak of unique
Canadian cuisine. They just they just put gravy on everything. We already went
through this. They also have pizza McDonald's, right, yeah, so that
in Japan they put they like to put mayonnaise on pizza. The order from
like a pizza or a Dominoes. They do have those there, and they
put very crazy like it was very different. We had a native speaker and
it was still difficult to just get a pepperoni pizza. Yeah, and on
top of that, super expensive to get it delivered. And they deliver it
on little bikes, really little bikes. So you just have like a whole
like slice of tomato and then a bunch of mayo and it just pour I
see corn, yeah, show out on a pizza. Yeah, mmm good,
just little niblets. Yeah, it's it's it's very different food there if
you get it the style that they serve it kind of by default, but
uh, if you if you haggle with them long enough and just say no,
dude, red sauce like a pizza and also pepperoni like a pizza,
like you would put on. And what's the cheese situation, because I know
Japan not not big into cheese. They have it, you know, that's
where they putting it on. The is like is it like Mayo instead of
instead of you know, I don't know, well, like like we haggled
our way around those. So I've only seen pictures of of how it's supposed
to be, but it sounds really scary and and not something I want to
try. Yeah, I don't want any part of that. Anything. Mayonnaise
on pizza sounds just about like the most unappealing thing ever, right, And
I like mayonnaise on stuff sometimes, but not not on that. Yeah,
I bet you do. I just I might be crazy, but I seon
remember like like Mayo being served as like the thing you dip fries in when
I was in Canada. Maybe that was just like one weird place I was
in or something, but yeah, that's like the Yeah, that kind of
the whole like pulp fiction thing on that or that's France. But I'm saying
when I was in Canada, they were Canada is like France. Next question,
I's gonna do it for questions, We've we've come to the end.
Thanks for everyone who wrote in, even though I skimmed over most of them.
Keep keep on writing and maybe we'll read your ridiculous question, maybe including
yourself. That's real convenient. Special guest, I don't know this is his
podcast. I've got you on a separate track. I could just delete you
from this podcasting just being void. Yeah, yeah, we should have done
that with our special guests. Uh huh, but that's gonna do it.
Yeah, that's gonna be the end of the show now. Thanks uh,
Jeff and Alex and mystery guest for for coming by. No problem, happy
to be here. I guess come by. What are talking about? I
came up to your house. I drive Yeah, no, thanks for having
me over. Thanks for using my microphones and all of my audio equipment with
your laptop. Yeah this worked out well, but hey, thanks for having
me guys. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna keep showing up if
that's cool. Yeah, I'm never gonna I'm gonna leave now. We're never
gonna tell you where or when we're gonna be recording it, because because I
just now that we're doing it on a laptop and it's all bust powered,
like we could be doing this in the street, right we should street casting,
literally anywhere streetcasting. We're I'm gonna put hit street culture a cool cat.
I'm gonna build a PSP into escape word. We're doing this, So
tune in next week for for that. Until then, I got I gotta
come up with some sort of good closing. I want people to writing suggestions
for a good closing line. How about word bitch we out? Yeah,
that's not bad. You wanta do you want to do that again? Let
that be our our our our closure. Jeff send us out, Jeff take
us home? Or word word bitch we out? Was that what we decided on