As Hail to the Chief finishes with a flourish, as we close out this
President's Day and open up a nightcap for Monday Night. February nineteenth, twenty
twenty four. Remember when that song played. Maybe you don't, but I
remember when that song would play, and it meant an important person was coming
in the room, someone who is to be looked up to, someone who's
to be respected. I don't think we have that as a country anymore,
and that is sad. The president was never supposed to be the king.
That's the whole reason we fought that little revolutionary war thing almost two hundred and
fifty years ago. No, the president was supposed to be the chief executive.
He was supposed to be the commander in chief of our military forces.
He was a person that was supposed to hold the country together. Seemingly,
more and more, the person who holds that office is in charge of pulling
the country apart. And I include everybody in that. It's not partisan for
me to say that. But tonight we will examine the importance of President's Day
with historian and Christian brother Scott Powell, who wrote the great book Rediscovering America.
It's still out there, and I still encourage. It's such an easy
read, and it has so much much to say about the traditions and the
celebrations and the holidays that we do celebrate in this country and why we celebrate
them and why they are important integral to keeping this country together. Scott Powell
will join us tonight the great Cheryl Chumley, who is a thinker and writer
and a correspondent beyond compare, who led the way during the scamdemic, who
has so many great things to say about the American people, and has so
many things to point out about where we're at right now as a country.
It needs to be said, and Cheryl will help us say that tonight.
Also Peter Bronson, one of my favorite folks in the entire world, not
just the tri State, but anybody that I've met, anybody that I have
interviewed, anybody that I've spent a little bit of time with. Peter is
just top notch number one. We'll spend an entire hour segment with him,
and we also have along the way Karen Katalene, another one of my favorites,
and Dave Hatter, the IT guy. It's the Nightcap on President's Day
Night and it's about to get started. So bear with me just for a
few moments, and we'll be right back to do just that. Gary Jeff
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from VO. As I mentioned at the top, it is President's day,
and he's a president of my book club. His name is Peter Bronson.
He is the author of fantastic, phenomenal books like Going all the Way Back
to the aftermath of the Timothy Thomas riots and the collaborative in Cincinnati with the
police behind the lines, and then of course you had The Forbidden Fruit about
the Beverly Hills Supper Cup Club blaze and the influence of organized crime in northern
Kentucky. Then Not in our town, The King of Smutt versus the Queen
City, or the Queen City versus the King of Smutt, the battle with
Larry Flint, and to keep Cincinnati a more respectable place to live, and
of course the latest The Man Who Saved Cincinnati, which is a Civil War
tome with just incredible history included in it. Peter does such phenomenal research on
these books, so you know they're not real conjecture here. He's one of
those fascinating authors who was a just the facts guy, but he makes it
so entertaining to read the facts, and I think that's the beautiful thing about
Peter's writing and his work. Peter Bronton, Welcome to the Nightcap. It's
great to have you in the studio. Very glad to be here, Gary,
Jeff, and thank you for that really nice introduction. In fact,
that was so nice. I think we're promoting you from president of the book
club to president and CEO. Thank you. We'll put you in the fulfillment
division. So great, just in case if anybody wants to that sounds like
a lot of work for me. Can you imagine before we get started,
can you imagine just for a second, being president of the United States and
all of the all of the duties and all of the responsibilities you have,
and it is truly a twenty four to seven job. And with under the
backdrop of that, look at the let's say, the work ethics and the
abilities physical abilities of the two people that may be running against each other again
in November, Joe Biden and Donald Trump. It is amazing. Isn't a
man who takes one hundred and forty days of vacation a year hides in his
basement or on the beach really three and sixty five days because he is not
there. No, And and you know when he's there, he's not there.
Yes, the what do they call that? It's not the window,
it's the the time that he's available during the day, he's available after ten
as but not afternoon every day. And Donald Trump just goes and goes.
The energizer bunny of politics doesn't even sleep apparently because he's doing texting, mean
tweets at uh, you know, four am and three. He doesn't know
they the Trump campaign says, and he says that if they're gonna have me
in court during the day, I'll just campaign at night. You know what.
But isn't that amazing? No, back to the original question, can
you even fathom having that kind of a schedule and that kind of a responsibility.
Well, apparently that doesn't mean as much as it used to, because
we have had presidents in the recent past who really take the job pretty lightly.
We can see examples of this, I mean, especially currently here we
have somebody who is like going back to the Wilson era, where the man
was basic all for all intents and purposes. In a CALLMA, he was
yeah, his wife was responsible. Miss Wilson ran the country. What the
last two years of the Wilson presidency. Yes, so apparently, from what
I can judge, there are always big teams of people who are willing to
step in and do your job for you if you are not willing to do
it yourself, or if you are incapacitated, and these people are glad to
do your job for you because that gives them the power. And that's everything
in DC party politics. Power. Those are the three. They matter way
more than the best interests of our country. Well, wouldn't you agree though,
that Donald Trump during his presidency was probably more hands off on than the
last five or six pres you know, going back to maybe Reagan. Yeah,
definitely too much hands on on his phone with his tweets. Well,
you know that never bothered me. Well, but you see too much hands
on in so many ways that really irritated, annoyed, enraged the deep state
of the lifelong the power you were talking what that power and he had.
He had taken too much responsibility in their eyes, and he was trying to
do things that he had no business interfering with, such as making our NATO
allies step up to the plate, such as keeping us out of wars,
such as calling the China out for what they really stand for, and interfering
with those delicate trade agreements and all those delicate diplomat diplomatic protocols with the State
Department. So yeah, he he was almost You couldn't get more opposite than
Trump to Biden, could you. No? No, And you say two
hands on, I think hands on enough. I mean, he wasn't trying
to pass laws as Joe Biden has been trying to do, not very much
presidential pulpit. No, he was trying to maybe undo some regulations that needed
undoing. He did undid a lot of the executive orders of Barack Obama,
which also enraged the deep state, which is basically an extension of the Democratic
Party in our federal bureaucracy. If you take a look at the voting patterns
in the ideology of the people who staff our federal government and all of our
institutions, all of these departments, all these cabinet. There again two hands
on to go after the FBI, the CIA, the irs, calling out
these federal bureaucracies for what they are, and that enraged them because that threatened
their power. And again because power powers all that matters. Power matter in
that Beltway, it would be power first, party second, and politics.
Whatever you can do in the game, how can you game to get over
on the other guys? So that seems to me that's the top three in
Washington, d C. And I would say the interests of our nation are
a distant orthor fifth. Well, I mean outside of a full scale rebellion
by a majority of the country. How do you change that? Well,
that's the question, isn't it If to get back to what the founders in
envision, to get back to the limited government, limited government, citizen lawmakers
who would go and do their bit for the country and then go back home
and start farming a field. Or that's the Cincinnatis tradition as it's known.
Even in DC one hundred and hundred and fifty years ago, that was still
known as the Cincinnatus tradition, named after the Roman warrior general who was called
from his farm, won the war to save the empire, and when they
wanted to acclaim and raise him as emperor, he said, nope, I'm
going back to my farm. My job here is done. So there's the
Cincinnatus tradition that this our city was named after. But it is completely lost,
is it not. I mean, on a rare occasion, you see
somebody like brad Wenstrop say I've done it. It's time to go back.
It's time to go back to my normal life, which I admire. But
those are the kind of people we rather keep than the ones who make a
lifelong career out of serving there. Yeah, it was never supposed to be
a career. It was never supposed to be a lifelong career politics, was
it. No, it was a means to an end of serving people,
serving your fellow citizens. And there's another stark contrast between the two candidates for
president. We have, on the one hand, a man who is very
successful in the private sector, who has done a number of things that you
can think of, real estate, investment, development, all these things TV
and then he becomes president. Well, the establishment really doesn't like that.
What they prefer is a man like Biden who has spent his entire adult life
in politics. He's never had a real job outside outside to be in a
lifeguard at one point. But he's had enough, I mean, with the
little black children rubbing the hair on his legs, the white hair and his
legs. But look at he is easily manipulated, and he is their guy
because he's steeped in that whole culture of politics, power and party. And
there's an eerie, eerie echo of this from eighteen sixty, so just before
the Civil War, the president was Buchanan. President Buchanan was also for the
first couple of years of the war, it was known as Buchanan's War because
he, like Biden, was a lifetime, lifelong political hack. That's what
they called him. The whole country loathed him pretty much, except for the
Democratic Party that got him elected. He was inept. He had spent his
entire lifetime preparing to be president, only to discover when he got there that
he could not do the job. He was a disaster, and when he
left office people applauded. So I see a lot of parallels. Well,
you know, they were talking about back when they were trying to still push
this border bill they called it that wasn't anything to do with the border really
except legalizing the illegal immigrants that are still invading our country. But they kept
on talking. You hear this word all the time in Washington, d C.
Well, we need some compromise, you know, And there's there's the
turtle Mitch mcconne. Oh no, we're trying to compromise with the Democrats to
get something done for the American people, and all the rest of that garbage
that they spew all the time, and they always talk the importance of compromise
comedy and not comedy like laugh comedy. The other one c O M I
T y y we need comedy. Yeah. Well, so I go back
and I was looking at my wife Krista when they were talking about compromise on
the border bill and how it wasn't going to do anything but further inflame the
problem. Yeah, and I said, well, that sounds an awful lot
like the Missouri Compromise of eighteen fifty, which wound up causing a civil war.
Good call, good call. Don't you find similarity absolutely the border problem.
We're seeing the same kind of eruption of confrontation between state and federal right
now in Texas that we had just before the Civil War. And this is
being caused by weaponized immigration. Weaponized immigration was used just before the Civil War
by the North because that's where all the immigrants were coming, and they used
it to load up their demographics to seize political power in the House and Senate.
So the South was basically kicked us to the curb like some stepchild,
and they had no voice in the House and Senate. And this is one
of the reasons leading up to the Civil War that they said, hey,
we're going to run things our way, and if you're not going to give
us a voice in the political institut tuitions of this country, we don't want
any part of We don't want to be part of it. That's right.
And they succeeded. And that's what's happening, but not on a geographic level,
but more like a red state blue state, but more of a city
versus rural level today. Yeah, it absolutely is a battle right now between
the major cities which are all happening to be dominated by Democrats, exactly just
as the North was dominated by Democrats. I've talked about this before. You
get outside of the city of Cincinnati, or outside of any major population area
that is controlled by Democrats, and it is as republican, as conservative,
as Trump loving as when you get fifty miles outside Clairemont County, oh Atla
County, Warren County, just go anywhere in Ohio this it's outside the sprawl
and look at the signs of people. That's what I'm saying there. It's
it's such a day and night differ it is. It's a shock. It's
kind of one of those things that make you really see that we are living
in two countries, that we are just in many ways as divided as this
nation was before the First Civil War. And I say first Civil War because
it feels more and more like we are in an ante bellum period, but
for the second Civil When I was watching cities go up in flames, when
I was watching Antifa take over a big portion of downtown Seattle, when I
was watching what was going on in Portland, when I was watching what was
going on in New York, when I was watching the Black Lives Matter protest
and the setting them on fire, glowing up a federal courthouses. When I
was watching that, I said, then, I said, this is the
beginning of a civil war in this country. And you know the whole Biden
campaign of let's put the adult back in the room, I mean the adult
who can't diaper himself. That what you meant by the adult back in the
room, and that that'll save the country. And a lot of people voted
because they knew that this violence, a lot of it had to do with
taken down Trump. Yes, and it was a bullying intimidation, just like
influencing a court verdict. And BLM was raising money for the Democrats. They
were in the arm of the Democrat Party. Yes, I agree, Antifa,
you know, sorrows money, sorrows money, but again to divide the
country, to further divide the country and seize power again exactly. And the
thing that I think a lot of people still aren't getting is that the reason.
And you can call Trump divisive, you can call Biden divisive, whatever,
but its force is far greater than either one of those men. And
I almost have a theory that they they actually let Donald Trump win that election
in twenty sixteen, because nothing that happens in Washington, DC is an accident.
They almost let Donald Trump win, even though he surprised him and did
so many great things for the country while he was in office, as far
as go with you this far, but I think that maybe they because they
wanted that division to further increase, and they knew that that diametrically opposed character
who was so brash, was going to do that. I tell you what,
we will take a break. We'll come for this half hour and come
back. Peter Bronson on President's Day on the night Cap, looking forward to
more. Hope you are too, Gary, Jeff with you on seven hundred
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Sitting at Peter here in the studio. Tonight on seven hundred WLW, we
were talking about the powers that want to take ultimate power in this country,
forcing division every turn, and maybe being on the brink of another civil war,
a second civil war. In the United States of America, and instead
of you said along geographical lines north and south, it's more city versus rural.
Yes, And I was suggesting maybe, just maybe, because nothing happens
in Washington, DC, that is an accident. They allowed Donald Trump to
be president just so they could further divide the country. And you said you
had some thoughts before the breakown. Yeah, I would go with you on
some part of that, which is I think that they exploited him and for
the way it divided the country, and they've made a huge use of that
as a unintended but I think they were genuinely shocked that the people rose up,
that he attracted this populous following of ordinary people. And when you see
his Trump rallies, that's a stark reminder of this contrast between city and rural
because when you as rallies, these are the people that we would see out
in the rural areas of Ohio, and that's where his rallies really draw a
lot of people, So Texas, Florida, all over the place. So
what I think the establishment, the deep state, whatever you want to call
him, they were shocked, and I think, in some ways badly shaken
by this, but they quickly mobilized to take advantage of it. First thing
they did is they removed the Attorney General. They forced him to recuse himself,
and he was neutered. It was one of the stupidest things that's ever
happened. And then you had basically a coup in the Justice Department to perpetrate
and spread this Russia hoax to do the same thing to the president. And
it was largely effective when you think about it. So it's hard to imagine
what he might have accomplished if not for that. And I think when it
came to the second election, they made sure that it would not happen again,
and that from day one of his inauguration forward, there were plans in
motion to say this will never be repeated, We will never have another president
like this. And if you don't have to guess at it, you can
find people in Washington who will say exactly that. Oh yeah, And even
before he was elected the first time, you saw the emails from Peter Strock
and uh yeah, and Lisa Paige, Yeah, we've got the insurance policy.
Yes, Trump can't win, there's no way he can win. We've
got to prevent this at all costs absolutely, and then they tried it to
handcuff and largely did try to handcuff his entire presidency with all of the distractions
that were thrown at a July base, and he still got so much accomplished.
It's good for the country. It's amazing to think what could have happened.
And the first thing Biden had to do was undo all those good things
that he which protect our sovereign border, you know, deal with China.
All those things were gone away. The drilling, the pipelines all gone away
the very first day by executive order by Penn. And and now that he's
at thirty eight percent approval, he's discovering some of those Trump ideas. We're
pretty good. I have no idea how he's even at thirty eight percent approval.
Well, I have no idea either. I mean, I just that's
as low as we've ever heard of in the modern era. We've never heard
of anybody that low, including even Trump during his impeachment, including Bush during
the war in Iraq, when the media and all these people were protesting war.
Who are now scratch your head over this one. They're the biggest warhawks
for Ukraine. How does that track that the same people who hated Bush over
Iraq are now that when we actually had an interest terrorism, are now the
big warhawks for Ukraine where we have no real interest, No exactly. And
you see the pictures of the atrocity and the women and the children and the
bombed out buildings in Ukraine, and you know, and this is their argument
for us to continue to fund this ridiculous war because Putin must be defeated and
his his his terrible, terrible tactics, and his bloodthir bloodlust must be conquered
at any cost. And as long as it takes, they say, as
long as it takes. It's like, whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever,
that's scary. Oh no, whatever it takes. Oh does that include
young American lives that would be sacrificed? There? How about nuclear weapons or
or chemical weapons or whatever it takes, whatever it is. And you hear
responsible people a think tanks and in the media it's allegedly responsible people say that,
Well, they're not responsible at all. It's just crazy, that's insanity.
They're neo condults who are part of the war machine. Yeah, because
war machine is only allowed to operate if it's directed by one Party. Have
you noticed, Oh yeah, exactly. Uh, you know what I'd like
to see American groups on our southern border right now? Well? Absolutely,
Instead, we're sending more money to Ukraine for their borders than we are for
our own border. And Joe Biden says, well, it's Congress's it's Congress's
purview. Noe, Joe. You signed the executive order rescinding Trump stay in
Mexico, the wall and deporting people, that's all. Congress didn't act then,
and the deep state didn't like it. But the deep state's not going
to like losing power. So I wonder how many votes they're going to truck
in on election night this year? Well to save their ass. Those plans
are foot. If you read the latest studies by the Heartland Institute, as
much as forty percent of the mail end votes twenty percent in many places were
fraud. Yeah, and these are all documented surveys. And that's just the
people who would admit it. So how many more would see a survey like
that and not admit that they're part of voter fraud? Well, and there
have been studies that have just been pushed out, including the one with Hartland
in the Epoch Times. Yes, that said, this study shows that Trump
really did win the twenty twenty election after all. And now he's being prosecuted
for saying that he won the election when it's obvious that he did, or
even daring to say that he had doubts about the outcome. That's right.
Do you recall back in the dim past when Al Gore actually litigated an election
because he had doubts and he said he won. Nobody thought of prosecuting him
for that. It could have about Hillary Clinton after that. You imagine how
much behind and I said this at the time, how much behind the eight
ball the Bush administration, the first Bush administration was because Al Gore impeded their
ability for the peaceful transfer of power. Unbelievable And and it went right up
until January. We were like weeks away from Inauguration day before the Supreme Court
decided, yes, George W. Bush has won this election. Al And
there's even more behind the scenes. So after that, we had people in
for editorial boards at the Inquirer who were at the Bush administration who told us
stories about what they encountered when they got into the White House after the Clinton
people left. They had sabotaged computers. Yeah, I heard about it.
They had deliberately just vandalized whatever they could to make the transition as impossible as
they could. Now, that is not leadership, that's children, that's juvenile
delinquents. And what happened in September of two thousand and one, what was
allowed to happen in two thousand and one. I always believed in my heart,
Pete that if the Bush administration had been allowed to set up everything they
needed to set up, September eleventh never happened. Oh, that's a good
point. Well, we also know that Clinton was given the option to take
out Osama bah Yeah, we know that that terrorist cell long before that,
and he passed. It was not politically good optics at the moment for him.
Right. This is what I mean when I say that power and their
party and politics all trump everything about the future of this country. That's a
lot of reasons. That's pretty much describes where we are now. Do you
have a I mean, obviously George Washington, the founder of the country,
basically, who led us in victory over the British in the Revolutionary War.
Do you have any other favorite presidents? I have some ideas myself. But
let's kick around a few. I would say probably near the top of my
list is Ronald Reagan because he actually achieved so much that turned this country back
in the right direction after the disaster of Jimmy Carter, after the disaster of
Watergate and all the things that were dividing the country. And so that's in
my lifetime. If I go back before my lifetime, I'm an admirer of
cal Coolidge. I think silent cal was a real strong leader, a great
president. He had the Cincinnatis attitude. If you nominate me, I will
not run. If you elect me, I will not serve. I mean
that's he basically said, no, I'm out of here, my job is
done. I like that. Those would be really near the top of my
list. I'm an admirer of Harry Truman a little bit. He did some
good things. He had the guts to do what had to be done.
And I can see a lot of I just I wonder compared to some of
these people, and of course Washington, how can you, how can you
hold anybody any higher than the first president of our country who was such a
great man and he and the great thing about that is he would abhor that
admiration. Yes, you know, that's why you got a loving exactly.
We talked about talked about Abraham Lincoln, and you had some good thoughts on
Lincoln. And he's looked at as one of the great America. He's got
to be in that top five for saving the Union. But would you put
him at number one? No? No, why not Washington? Yeah,
me too. Without Washington, none of the rest of that is possible,
exactly. But Lincoln did a lot of things that mannard. You look back
on him now, Oh, today's press, if they really looked at it
would be he'd have to be His statues would have to come down absolutely.
I mean, he promised he dismissed the writ of hapeas Corpus in the Civil
War. He's spended civil rights, arrested political enemies. Yeah, through him
in jail. Let him be go into the military courts. He also told
all the Southern states before he was elected, even when he wasn't on the
ballot, he told him that I have no intention of doing anything about slavery.
That's the peculiar institution, as he called it, was part of their
enomy. And he was not interested at all at that point and now in
his deepest convictions. Oh yeah, you've seen his writings and other speeches.
But as the politician Abe Linco, and he was trying to reassure them that
he was not going to turn the country under a civil war, which is
exactly what happened. I mean, who was the president who was elected twice
but not consecutively. Was it Grover Cleveland who was elected and then one again?
When Yeah, that's a good question. I'm trying to that'll come up
now because it was because would be similar, yeah to what's going on with
Donald Trump, if you know, if they can't cheat enough to keep him
out of office. Yeah, he asked to win by the margin of fraud,
right exactly. But do you know when you but when you shut up,
when you suspend voting in the middle of the night and close pull the
curtains down around all the windows and trucks back up with fraudulent ballots, they
kick everybody. Yeah, I mean, how do you ever know what the
margins of fraud will be? Two o'clock in the morning, we're counting again.
And my friend Loll Ponty, my late friend Loll Ponty, God rest
his soul, told me in uh in the spring of twenty twenty spring and
summer of twenty twenty. He said, well, here's what I think will
happen, Gary, Jeff. I think that on election night, Donald Trump
will be solidly in the lead, and then they will find votes like al
Franken exactly what happened, exactly exactly, and then it's low. Then it's
gonna be a question that Democrats getting on the phone and we need more trucks,
no doubt, five more truck loads ballots, please immediately, and they're
gonna have to find I think they're gonna have to find a different way to
cheat this time. Well, because of the electronic method yes exactly, which
a lot of people were afraid of, with the commuter systems and the some
of the that was done, and some of it was done, the switching
of votes, but the trucking in of ballots. Why can't we just go
back to paper ballots? Oh, being counted individually by human beings. You
know what's really annoying to is that, Okay, this you can argue,
as we have that the election was stolen, or you can argue that it's
questionable, but you cannot argue as the Democrats and the media have done since
that election day that it was the most honest and fair election in history.
It's a lie. It's it's not just a lie, it's a big lie.
It's got to be one of the big, big lies. That is
so big then you can use that to just cudgel people with it and say
we can't even talk about it. You're not even allowed to talk about it
or raise your doubts because it was the most honest and fair election in the
history of the US. Do you remember being a kid and when you were
first aware of who the president was, how that was such a big thing
in your head. You're like, Wow, that's that's really an important position.
I mean, this is someone to be revered and honored, and I
think a lot of that's gone. Now. When did the When did the
presidency really begin to shrink? My argument would be during the Lewinsky scandal,
right when we when the country and the media made up their minds that it
was okay to commit a crime and to besmirched the office of the presidency in
that manner because he's a he's a likable guy. So the crime was lying
was covering up the crime. The original and was then lying about it,
perjuring himself, and then to just do that before the whole world in the
Oval office was beyond the pale. Oh yeah, but we had. I
was at the well Yasser Airfits in the Rose Garden, waiting for some ceremony
with Clinton. He's busy, the President is, and Detain the Intern was
delivering a pizza. Peter Bronson, our guest on this President's Day nightcap.
And Pete, let's let's go back through through your repertoire here. What is
still available of the books you have? And I know The Man who Saves
Cincinnati is still just selling like crazy. It is. It's very popular.
You said, the people love their history. He said that the folks at
the library said that they've never seen a waiting list for a book to be
checked out, like at seventy people in line. Yeah, that's what I
get. The Man who Saves Cincinnati. Yeah, fantastic. I love it.
I'm gonna have to get more books so those people don't have to wait
so long. But yeah, all of the books from Behind the Lines,
Forbidden Fruit, Not in Our Town, and The Man who Saves Cincinnati are
available. All of them are available on my website, which is Chili Dog
Press chilidogpress dot com and sign copies available there. Prices everything is there.
There's some discounts you can find as well, and also there, i should
say, available at most of the local bookstores, including the big chains like
Barnes and Noble. Joseph Beth does a really good job at rookquod of handling
the books, Robling Point Books, and of course the Megaseller. Amazon has
copies of just about everything fantastic well, and I'm glad I've got a copy
of a couple of those. I'm glad to hear some of my favorite books.
You're one of my favorite people. Thanks for being with us on President's
Day Night on the Nightcap Peter Bronson more ahead on seven hundred WLW. Are
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Com, body armors zero things I love about this show, and I really
have to savor them now because we've got like less than two months left before
the Reds take over this time slot with baseball season in twenty twenty four.
So I'm really, you know, cherishing every moment that I get. And
one of the people that I've really enjoyed kind of getting to know, I
mean, do you ever really know anybody? But in some subsequent conversations we've
had, and somebody that writes every day for The Washington Times is a christian
An author and just a fantastic person named Cheryl Chumley, and she is joining
us for this half hour tonight. Cheryl, how are you doing. I'm
doing great. Thank you so much for having me. No, it's great.
I was reading some of the stuff from your website, which cherylchummeley dot
com, which he said, I haven't really updated that, but that sounds
like me and social media too, so we won't we won't bang on you
for that. But one of the the stories I saw that was, you
know, going back to Lord to October Bold and Blunt Government's January sixth lies,
and it pertains now because there were still political prisoners in jail, in
prison for being at the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one, and
the president himself is on trial. The president. You're always president, what's
your president? Right? President Trump is waiting on the Supreme Court to decide
if he has immunity. I still am trying to figure out what he needs
immunity for to whin it regards January sixth, but whether he has immunity for
actions while in office because January sixth, twenty twenty one, President Trump was
still in office and the speech he made it the Ellipse, and they're trying
to criminalize an opinion basically by the commander in chief at that time regarding all
of that. And we know now from stories and studies from Heartland and the
Epoch Times. These studies prove what many of us suspected or knew all along,
is that, yeah, basically, Donald Trump did win the twenty twenty
presidential election. He wasn't lying, And then they're still trying to prosecute him
and persecute him because they don't know what else to do. He's got such
a groundswell of popularity in his country, and you see it in poll after
poll after poll. So on this President's day, what do you think?
Do you have any crystal ball? Do you have any predictions about what the
Supreme Court might say about this? There is president there are two other cases
where presidents were claimed to have immunity, one James Madison and one or Andrew
Johnson. I mean, and of course Richard Nixon as well, So I
mean you're thoughts on that first and foremost here, Well, I don't have
a crystal ball on what the Supreme Court will do because they've surprised me a
couple times with decisions, so you know, I hesitate to say what they
would do. What they should do is to grant President Trump his immunity protection,
because first off, it's ridiculous that he even needs immunity for basically expressing
his heartfelt opinion about the election right, And second off, a lot of
the data, as you point out, shows that he is absolutely correct.
I mean, if we can't contest elections in this country, if we can't
say that an election needs to be contested, or that we believe we're the
rightful candidate who won the election, then just going forward, that's going to
put a stop to any candidate, and let's be real here, any Republican
candidate, because that's who it'll really put a stop to contesting any election results.
I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing and grants Donald Trump the
immunity that he rightfully deserves. Well, we were talking about it just before
we started this conversation, and I said, al Gore never was threatened with
going to prison for contesting the two thousand election, which severely handcuffed the incoming
totally violated the peaceful transfer of power we're supposed to have when it comes to
that particular office in this country. And you said something very telling. Democrats
don't go to jail, right, Well, right, they don't. I
mean, yeah, I remember that. Well, the hanging chance, the
hanging chance, the you know, the dispute went on for over thirty days.
I think it was ended up in the Supreme Court, and you know,
sorry al Gore, but she didn't win, and like you said,
there were no calls for al Gore to go to jail. It's a different
political climate, and we know what's going on here. This is all about
Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. Right, the groundswell of support that he
continues to have even though he is attacked in the courts now from all angles.
And it's just simply to shut down the idea of an American first policy
which Donald Trump brought into office. It wasn't just a bumper sticker with him,
but he actually did put America first. And that's what the globalists in
their partners in the Democrat Party cannot stand. Oh no, they can't have
that, because if we actually put America first, there's no way they seize
total, absolute control, which is what they want. Yep, you go
back to al gorgeous for a moment. I was. I lived in Tennessee
for a long time and then moved up to Ohio for work in the early
nineties. But I knew Tennessee pretty well, and al Gore's family had been
politically connected in the state of Tennessee for a long long time. And in
two thousand, when Tennessee over whelmingly rebuffed al Gore as a presidential candidate,
I knew right then and there there's no way in hell that al Gore has
won this election. He can't even win his own state where people know him
best, where he served as a senator. You know for multiple terms that
there's no way as a congressman also in the House of Representatives, there's no
way he's president of the United States if you can't win in your own state.
And I look at what's going on with the primary situation in South Carolina
this Saturday. Nikki Haley is down thirty points to President Trump in this latest
poll, and she still continues to spend her donor's money and campaign to be
the alternative to bad Orange Man. And I keep on thinking, you're not
going to win the state where you were governor, Lady, how do you
think you're going to ultimately defeat Donald Trump in a presidential primary or in anything?
And her argument is, well, she's beating all the other candidates by
far, Yeah, but you neglected one, Nicki. I mean it has
been kind of like, is that just another nat around Donald Trump's face,
that the Deep State's trying to throw Nicki Haley in that campaign? What do
you think about that? Here? Well, she is being bankrolled at least
in part by Democrats, right, and there is a fairly well funded anti
Trump, you know, grouping out there who are funding her as well.
And look, it's her, right, it's her right to campaign for president
as long as she wants to. And it's just that we all know in
the American public right and in most of the media, that she doesn't stand
a chance. So if her funders want to keep throwing their money away by
keeping her propped up as a viable candidate to Donald Trump, then you know,
have at it. But look, Donald Trump is the Republican candidate.
I think they're keeping Nicky Haley because they think that, you know, Donald
Trump still has some courtroom appearances to make, he still has some legal issues
that he's got to work through, and they're holding out hope that one of
these legal daggers being thrown at him is going to be the one that boots
him from the race, right, the one that brings him down and cripples
him. And so they want to keep Nicki Haley as a Bible standing candidate.
But it's not going to happen because the American people. The more Donald
Trump gets dragged into court, the more he gets vilified by the left and
you know, by the Soros funded prosecutors, the more his pull numbers arise,
the numbers just keep going up. Yeah, they keep going up.
So he's the candidate. Sooner or later, Nicky Haley will drop out,
but I suspect it's going to be as we go through this legal process a
little bit longer. I remember when I guess it had been six months,
seven months ago, when they were detailing all of the different criminal and civil
charges against Donald Trump and dope which ones were the most problematic and which ones
posed the biggest threat to Donald Trump running and winning the presidency again. And
they all pointed to the Georgia election case because that was a state case,
and then it was a reco case. And with all of that, all
of that blowing up last week, with the revelations about Fanny Willis and how
corrupt her office was, and you know, all the other sordid details which
I really don't care about. I don't care about what the relationship was with
Nathan Wade or anything, but the impropriety, just the appearance of impropriety seems
to have put that on the breaks. Anyway, in the state of Georgia.
I thought that was probably the most serious one. They're trying to make
this January sixth case the one that sticks, but the Georgia state case,
where there's no kind of you know, federal check and balance on it,
so to speak, even though it was about a federal election. I don't
know how they made it a state case, but that seemed like the biggest
bugaboo and obstacle in Donald Trump's way. Do you think that that goes away
with Fanny Willis? Do you think that they'll make her recuse herself or drop
the case or postpone it. Well, I never thought that that case had
much legs to move forward anyhow, because I found it ridiculous that she was
using rico right around hearing that's for the mafia, that's that's not for you
know, somebody contesting election results and supposedly putting pressure to you know, on
the state authorities and so forth. And she overreached. You know, she
didn't just go for Donald Trump. She was trying to She was ringing in
eighteen other co defendants of Donald Trump. Hold on, that's some of those
have made plea deals all ready in that case in Georgia. I wonder if
those get thrown out. Yeah, it's just you know, the plea deals
that people make, right with these deep state types. I'm always suspicious about
how much pressure went into making that plea right because there comes at a certain
point in time where you have to worry about your family, your finances.
To me, that's the biggest thing that the Deep State is going after Donald
Trump and all his so called co conspirators to basically bankrupt them. And so
that's to me the biggest threat. It's you know, when the money runs
out, is when people start talking about plea deals and so forth. And
so I don't really see this Georgia case going. You know, it's not
going to prevent Donald Trump from winning the primary. He's going to be the
candidate. And I think, like you said, it has blown up quite
a bit because now we see Fanny Willis right facing some of the old her
own fire that she started, you know, against Donald Trump. So,
yeah, he's going to be the candidate. I don't know what else to
say. The deep State is trying, but they haven't brought him down and
they won't be well. I mean, if they can keep him off the
ballot, then they don't have to manufacture all those ballots in the middle of
the night on election night like they did in twenty twenty. Yeah. I
think also that people are kind of over the brashness and the boldness and maybe
just the shoot from the hip style of Donald Trump, and they understand it
now, the average person. I'm not talking about the deep state or Democrats
obviously, but I think that most people now are used to the fact that
Donald has a really wicked sense of humor and he's going to be that way.
So that's one less argument against him, I think, yes. And
you know, Joe Biden, the Democrat Party right now has some serious challenges
to overcome. First off, their puppet, demented president Joe Biden, right
we've all seen them shaking hands with the air and calling out dead people.
That's a serious issue. But for most Americans, the big issue right now
is the economy. You know, I talk to people who just moderate salaries
or whatever getting started in life, and they see a massive difference between when
Donald Trump was president and now when Joe Biden is president and they go food
shopping. These are things that really, you know, that drive home to
people about the need of change in the political arena. And the Democrats aren't
offering anybody else besides Joe Biden. They are attacking Donald Trump, which maybe
a lot of people are still turned off by Donald Trump. Though I agree
with what you're saying that most people are used to them by now, But
at the same time, they're not offering a viable option. They're just you
know, sticking Joe Biden back out there on the stage to stumble about.
And I think people are sick of what Democrats have provided the last three years,
and there's nobody better. So it just doesn't look like it's going very
well for Democrats. One last thing, Cheryl Chimley is our guest here in
the nightcap on this President's Day night, and this is a non presidential political
necessarily, but kind of political as much as I know you were a staunch
critic of these mandates during what I call the scamdemic, the you know,
the lockdowns and the masking and the vaccine mandates. I talked to a friend
of mine who was a general practitioner doctor who was a firm believer in all
the protocols back in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and he's had to
undergo some infusions for some health issues he's got now, and the doctor who
examined him and did the test results said, you know, you don't have
any covid antibodies at all, even though he's had five injections to protect against
COVID nineteen. In the last three years, he's had the infection itself,
of course a couple of times and has no COVID antibodies whatsoever. And I
hate that for him, but it feels like great vindication and validation for people
like me. Is said, I don't believe in this miracle experimental shot that
they whipped together in seven months, and I'm not going to put that in
my body. I just wanted your view on that. Errol, Well,
there's this meme that goes around on social media that says something akin to the
number of people who have regretted not getting the shot is zero, Right,
like all the people who have suffered help issues from the shot, maybe from
the shot, maybe from the boosters and so forth, all the vears reporting,
you know, the number of people who have issues because they didn't get
the shot, right, There aren't people who are complaining about that. They
feel lucky, they feel blessed that they held out. And look, this
is the reality. And some of us knew early on. Some of us
knew that mandates for shots that were rushed out in seven months instead of taking
the estimated average ten years it takes to put forth a shot right from development
to people's arms as safe. Some of us knew early on this was a
mistake, and yet the mandates under Joe Biden went forth. And I just
think that lawsuits should be flying in the coming years about people who have suffered
adverse impacts. Cheryl Shenley, thank you so much. Thank you. It's
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give me some of his time, and there's never enough time most of the
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Scott Powell Rediscovering America President's Day how are you doing, my friend,
Gary, Jeff, I'm doing really well. That was a very very gracious
introduction for which I'm very grateful. But this is a great day if we
get focused on what has made us great, and we got to acknowledge that
we got problems. So let me just start by reminding the audience that holidays,
memorials, and monuments are more important than the than ever for us as
Americans, because we really face the infiltration of cultural Marxism and the abysmal state
of American history, education and our failing public school system. You know,
only a generation or two ago, it was understood that we in the presence
stood on the shoulders of great people who came before us. That was understood
by everybody. In addition to appreciating and learning from heroic figures, it was
also understood that it's important to connect the present with the virtues of the past.
So can you tell me where we want to go? I can go.
Well, you know, every in every occasion in history, if you
look back before the founding of the United States of America, where there have
been some pretty good foundational societies, when they have been attacked, one of
the first thing the attackers who want to take down that society do is tear
down statues, is try to eliminate or erase anything that was prominent or good
about that society's or that culture's past. That's the first thing they always do.
That's where they attack. They attack. They those people's shoulders who were
standing on They try and knock them down, to knock us down. So
we have no vision and no pathway forward. And that's what's happening right now
in the United States of America in my opinions, good, very well said,
very well said. But and who are these people that are doing this.
They are a combination of really, for lack of a better description,
communist oriented people. We have the you know, the influx of radical Islamis.
We've actually been living with that influence really since the Obama years, where
we have radical Islamis actually in our government, believe it or not, and
we can see it in some of the representation of you know, we have
what the the Gang of Four. Well, yes, they hate America.
They are here, they are serving in Congress and they absolutely hate America.
Now, why aren't they voted out of office? Because they have these safe
districts with a lot of Muslims, uh, you know, in those districts
they brought out all these refugees from places like Somalia and and any number of
Islamic dominated country overseas ease where this country opened up its arms and you know,
gave these people an opportunity. It wasn't supposed to give people an opportunity
to tear down the place that was giving them sanctuary, but that's exactly what
has happened. Well, it's a sad state of affairs, but you know,
Americans are awakening to the fact that are you know, freedom's rights,
opportunities that we have taken for granted for generations are now being brazenly stripped away
from us in just the last few years. And those blessings, if you
will, are being stripped very primarily by the federal governments and its administrative states.
So that's why this President's Day twenty twenty four maybe one of our most
significant holidays to go back and revisit, you know, both Washington and Lincoln,
because they can tell us, they can speak to us from the great
so to speak. Yeah, you right, that these great American presidents,
George Washington, the founder of this country, the father of this country.
And Abraham Lincoln, the man who saved the Union. You're write, these
great presidents were willing to give their lives to establish a new nation. We're
called to do no less to save the country now, So I mean that
is impactful. Is if you're willing to give up your life for your fellow
man, is there anything greater than that? And George Washington and Abraham Lincoln,
ultimately, Lincoln did give up his life for this country. So give
me just a Scott Powell, if it's possible, a Scott Powell thumbnail portrait
of both of these two great presidents. Yep, let's do that. So.
Washington was the key founder of the United States. He was the commander
in chief of the Continental Army, which did the impossible that was defeat Great
Britain, the greatest military power in the world at that time. And later
Washington presided over the Constitutional Convention which drafted this remarkable document, the Constitution,
and then it was unanimously elected as the first President of the United States in
seventeen eighty nine. Less than a century after Washington's time, Lincoln became the
sixteenth president, and he was also a wartime commander in chief who presided over
the start and the end of the Civil War, and so doing he set
the stage for national reunification, ending the scourge of slavery, and saving the
United States from division. Remember, the war started over secession of the Southern
States. It was not over slavery. It was they seceded. They said,
you know, we haven't been getting a fair deal economically. We've been
giving you know, where this you know, agricultural juggernaut in America. We're
producing all the you know, not just the food, but the cotton,
and you sell it, you collect the tariffs on it, and we're getting
the North rich and we're not participating. So their gripes against the North were
really long standing, and they decided finally to seced and they thought it was
their right to do so based on their understanding of the debate of the Constitutional
Convention that it was a voluntary it was voluntary that the states banded together to
form the United States. These of course, there were just thirteen colonies in
the very beginning, and there was even debate about, well, what if
one of them wants to leave? And the agreement was that they could leave.
So the Southern States did not think that they were doing anything crazy in
just picking up their marbles and saying, you know, we're going to form
our own government. And you know what their government was formed around. It
was an identical constitution to the Constitution of the United States, with some small
changes, but most everything was the three branches of government, same terms of
office and so forth. So anyway, so what Lincoln did, he saved
the republic that you know, Washington made possible. And these were these were
amazing men, you know, whose wisdom and judgment was really profound. And
we have to acknowledge that they were both flawed men. You know, they
made mistakes, but they had these remarkable qualities that were so formidable that they
contributed to the essence of what we call American exceptionalism. And you know what
was exceptional about him. Both these presidents readily admitted that it was not their
own abilities that made the difference, but rather their faith, trust, and
reliance on God that gave them their strength and opened the way for ultimate success.
I mean, well, when you say, when you say they were
both flawed men, all you had to do their things, all you have
to say is that they're men, they're human beings. We're all flawed men
and women Scott, There's no question about that. We can't help that.
And that's that's why we need saving, That's why we need Jesus, and
that's why we need God. Because we are all flawed people as human beings.
It's part of our nature to be flawed. So it always, it
always strikes me when someone is referring to somebody said, well, although he
was a flawed man, he blah blah, and it's like, no,
he was a man. That's all I have to say, because we already
know the rest from living ourselves and living our lives and seeing our own flaws
if we're have the vision to do that. But so George Washington just wanted
I mean, he was a he was a He was an officer in the
British Army before the revolution, I mean law before the Revolution. He was
a member of the British Crowns Army. And Abraham Lincoln, who wound up
being one of the great thinkers of all time, didn't have really any formal
education outside of you know what, sixth seventh grade. Yeah, he spent
he spent a small I think he spent one year in what was then a
one room schoolhouse. But otherwise he was truly a homeschooled, you know,
young man. And there are stories about him. He's such an amazing guy.
There are stories about him that he wanted to read every book he could
get his hands on. So he used to borrow books from everybody in the
town that he lived in. He borrowed them all and read them all.
He was a prolific reader, he was. But what you know, the
centerpiece of this article that I wrote, and I was published in a couple
of places today, was that both Washing and Lincoln were really pressient in seeing
that America's greatest threat to national survival would not come from military invasion from a
foreign power, but rather it would come from within. And that's what we're
seeing today. So what did Washington see, Well, he gave this great
gift to America in his farewell address, which he referred to as a warning
from a departing friend. Those were his words, and it was so profound
and really in demand that it was reprinted more than the Declaration of Independence.
Can you believe that? But it's true, and it was prophetic in nature.
It warned against three internal threats to liberty in the American republic, and
they're more relevant now than ever before. And the first one was the failure
of citizens to be well informed. Number two was internal division because of party
factions and hyper partisans in the ship. And the third thing that would bring
us down was the decline of religious obligation and national morality. And we can
see all three of those at work in bringing us down now. Lincoln similarly
prompted Americans to think and be villaging about internal threats to freedom, and he
posted it in the Lyceum address. He posed a question, and that was,
quote, at what point, then is the approach of danger to be
expected? And he answered his own question by staying quote, if it ever
reaches us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad.
As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time or die
by suicide. After his reelection for a second term shortly before his assassination,
Lincoln also observed that quote corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption
in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor
to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudice of the people. And so
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed. Wow,
now we aren't we aren't quite there yet. Well, but you look
at the one percent and the people that have the money and the power and
the land in this country. And this is not a rail against them,
but it is exactly a mirror of what he was talking about in this particular
address, Scott in in that and and that's all the globalist one. They
want an accumulation of all the power in a very few hands, and the
rest of us to kind of fend for ourselves as their servants are serfs if
they allow us to even live. Uh, that's right now. They they're
they're they really buy into population reduction, yep. And and so it's it's
less less, less non elites to have to take care of. That's why
they want to reduce the population and that and that's why we have we have
to really see things in context to this agenda, because this agenda has actually
swept through our elites. And so for instance, the Green New Deal and
the reliance on wind and solar power and the electric vehicle revolution are all part
of this agenda. Sure that is not rational, it's not based on the
very things that can sustain America. Sadly, sadly, we're out of time
again. I want to remind you. Scott Powell, a Senior Fellow at
the Discovery Institute, has written this wonderful book where he talks about American traditions
and what we need to get back to in this country if we want to
have a country rediscovering America. I highly recommend it, and Scott, thank
you again for your time tonight. Absolutely, Gary, Jeff, let's do
it again. We will definitely do it again soon. Now a break and
then back on the nightcap. We're not done yet. Seven hundred WLW.
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nightcap on President's Day twenty twenty four, whatever that means, Gary Jeff Walker,
proudly bringing you, proudly hailing my friend Karen Katalene KK is back.
She's spouting off a and she's doing it with me, and I just couldn't
be happier about that. Karen, good evening, good evening. How are
you good? First and foremost a little, a little housekeeping, a little
past business. As of course, Karen and I had our bet on the
Super Bowl. She was she was choosing the team that lost, and I
was choosing the team that won, and we had we had a little bet.
Yes, So I just wanted to say to tell you that I am
so happy I don't have to send you a pooper scooper, a tent and
rice a rony, the San Francisco treat that you don't need to give me
the cheap tailor wine or the swift premium bacon. We're I'll consider it.
I'll consider it done and done. I won't consider it you welched on your
bet or it's a participation trophy. I understand that it was an agreement.
We made a gentle person's agreement, but I am letting you out of that
commitment right here and now on the air. I just want to let you
know, well, that's very kind of you. I just hope that I'm
not going to hear about it. You know, five years later, Hey,
no, no, no, no, what about that Taylor Swift bacon
and Karen. You will never hear. You will never hear about the bacon
or the wine, but you will hear over and over again that you lost
the bet. So does that mean if I buy you the bacon and the
wine you won't make me so no, no, no, no, no
no no no no no no, no, no, no. That has
nothing to do with it. I no, I, and I will not
continually pummel you with this fact that you were wrong and I was right,
even though it's kind of it's kind of enticing to do that, but I
will not do that to a friend. I wanted to start I wanted to
start off, and it's kind of off topic for President's Day. But we
know who the president actually ought to be, and we know that now from
study after study that's been done in the twenty twenty election, that the that
the demented puppet should have never taken office and should not be not should should
not be further ruining America for the globalist deletes. But I'm going to take
Somebody sent me this opinion piece and I thought it was very interesting, very
poignant and very true from the Telegraph, which of course is the British rag
of record, from Yahoo News, and it's opinion piece by a lady named
Louise Perry. I've never read her before this. Somebody sent this to me.
Ireland has descended into a narco tyranny, and we're following suit. Although
if you live in a monarchy, aren't you actually being in a tyranny anyway?
But the anarco tyranny a system of government that fails to protected citizens from
violence while simultaneously persecuting conduct that would typically be regarded as innocent. The experience
of living under such a system may be familiar to you, even if the
term itself is not. And she sends the example of a career criminal like
someone named Jordan McSweeney free to walk the streets of London murdering women mere days
after being released from prison on license, even while offensive limericks, online poetry
and dogs trained to perform comical salutes are treated with the utmost seriousness by the
criminal justice system. And we've been seeing that in this country for the last
four years when it comes to Donald Trump January sixth, protesters people that object
to tyrannical vaccine mandates that you know, people be put in jail or persecuted
simply for things that they determine. They being the deep state, those who
were involved in charge of the establishment. Sadly for you know, raising questions
for objecting to certain policies and the like. That's a criminal offense. And
yet we see the revolving door that it's at work in major cities where there
are Soros funded district attorneys and judges who are letting the real criminals out on
the street. We have a narco tyranny in America right now, do we
not? Yes? Indeed, and you know where I first heard that term.
I had never heard it before until I interviewed one of my faith guests
by the name of John Zamirak, who I know that you have had on
Yes, and that was he started using that term. The way he described
it, which new to me, is that there are two justice systems.
There are anarchy for us, meaning we get to do whatever we want,
and tyranny for you. And that is well, I just call it communism,
but and narco tyranny. I am ambivalent about saying I'm glad, but
I am glad people are calling that and using that term, and that is
what it is. And I would also add that it is done as a
cynical political strategy and the message is supposed to be received by us. All
if you speak about question anything that seems wrong, different offends your sensibilities.
See, they can be offended, they can have microaggressions. We can't be
offended about anything. We can't be offended about the destruction of our country,
the instruction of our constitution, any of that. So if you say anything
and you're on the wrong side of their political agenda, it's tyranny for you,
and they don't care. This is a digression. But did you see
when Chuck Schumer, I hate even using his name, Chuck Schumer was heard
to say, oh, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Joe Biden. All
of this talk of him having poor memory and being on the way to the
nursing home and dementia Alzheimer's. That is a republican conspiracy theory. And that's
all. Part of it is that you can say the dumbest, most obvious
lies and get away with it because you're on the anarcho part. Anybody who
questions all the things you mentioned, maybe they just prefer to think for themselves.
They're on the tyranny side. That's how you shut down liberty, and
they're doing a very unfortunately great job at it. Well. She goes on
and in Ireland she writes the current government there, the broad Car government or
whatever currently facts fast tracking such a law, the Criminal Justice Incitement to Violence
or Hatred and Hate Offenses Bill, which would criminalize any person who prepares or
possesses material that is likely to incite violence or hatred against a person who or
a group of persons on account of their protected characteristics. Here we are again
the identity identity politicish and so also inciting it. In other words, if
somebody else loses their cookies over something, it's your fault, right exactly exactly,
and it talks about microaggressions and misgendering sometimes classified as a form of violence,
but hatred, She writes, how's that a word? Now, that's
a word that eventual prosecutor could really make hay with, particularly given the usefulness
of that additional word. Likely with the new law in place, the authorities
could easily decree that all sorts of political inconvenient speech is likely to incite hatred
against particular groups. But they've been doing that to Donald Trump for I don't
know six years. I don't know when a president smears and frames and about
more than half of the population for having voted for a candidate that wasn't him,
for supporting his prime and only true political punts, and calls them domestic
terrorists. And the most dangerous thing is that inciting hatred at all? I'm
just wondering. And anyway, one more piece from this commentary piece, if
you'll allow me the levity here, Karen, it's your show. You make
an excellent point. Ten days ago, three young children were stabbed outside of
school in Dublin by a man, which online rumors suggested was originally from Algeria.
The ensuing riot was met with an appropriately heavy response from the police,
and across the following Connor McGregor, the MMA fighter, emerged as the voice
of a particularly angry faction in Ireland, angry at the very dramatic recent rise
in immigration, and angry at the imparent apparent inconsistency of a police force willing
to come down hard on some violent crime but not all he said. He
said, I don't condone the riots. I do understand the frustrations though,
and I do understand a move must be made to ensure the change we need
is ushered in. There will be change in Ireland, mark my words.
McGregor was reportedly being investigated by Irish police under suspicion of inciting hate for making
that statement. Right, you know, we've got all of this, all
of this issue with an illegal invasion that's been allowed, been encouraged to go
on on a southern border for the last three and a half years, and
we're seeing the fruits of that in our city streets, in our justice system,
in our schools, in our hospitals. But if you speak up,
you obviously are not compassionate towards your feeling human being. No person allowed to
have a problem with it. No, no, no human being can be
illegal. Well you know what under our actual, our own laws that aren't
being enforced, yes, they are classified as illegal entrance into the country.
You know the mistake that is going to be made by many people, not
you, of course, but many many people in debating the issue instead of
pointing out the tactic, because the people that are behind this kind of tactic,
they don't even believe the propaganda they're pushing. There are people I call
bandwagoneers. Okay, they'll push anything their betters tell them to push, but
they didn't originate this. All these strategies, including hinds fifty seven, variety
of genders and mastectomies for twelve year olds, and things that are designed to
inflame and insight people of faith and anyone else faith. They're known who has
any common sense or boundaries between governments and the citizen, between men and women,
boundaries between oh I don't know, countries and borders, boundaries. They're
erasing all boundaries, and if you have any problem with it, you're the
bad guy. If we do not haul out that tactic, then we're missing
the boat. Because, as I say, even the people who came up
with a lot of this insanity. They don't believe it. They are,
for the most part, ideological communists. And this is how you do it.
You inflame everybody, have everybody at each other's throats until people throw out
their hands and just say, I can't send it anymore. I'm hiding under
my bed. That's what they want everybody to do. Well, I don't
know how you debate something that is so plainly ridiculous, ridiculous like the Heinz
fifty seven genders thing you talk about, and you know, mutilating ten and
twelve year old children for the sake of this division that they're trying to inflame
and cause. But you know what, and as a person of faith who
believes that this is an immortal sin against God and against the grain of what
I believe, forget about that for a second. People who actually believe in
science and biology should be just as upset about this, you know, this
gender fluidity and the mutilation of kids, and the murder of unborn babies,
because the science is clear. You know that this fetus at two three months
old with a heartbeat is a human being. It's not a collection of cells.
You were born biologically as a boy or a girl, male or female.
This is part of my point is that I have believed for a long
time that going after these things and pushing them most outlandish and truly offensive things,
which by the way, I'm reading that even not even independence who can't
stand either party, and they have a point while taken, they are not
buying into this gender ideology. They think it's patently ridiculous. And I have
always believed and I still do believe, that they take the ideas and the
ideology of people of faith for the most part Christians, but not all,
but for the most part Christians who hold the largest group of people who are
beholden to God instead of government, and they do that in order to marginalize
them and call them hateful. They are hating on the very people that they're
calling hateful. That is a brilliant and extremely cynical tactic. I think that's
what gay marriage was about, too. I don't think gay people themselves were
pushing as hard for it as radical leftists were. Those are the people who
wanted to push it because it's part of the agenda, is straight out of
Salolunsky's rules. For that's how you do it absolutely so. It has to
be. It has to be opposed on every level. And you know how
we know that these things are wives they're pushing because they selectively persecute anybody who
speaks up and stands up and says, you know what, No, nope
and not not ever. If you say no to their ideology, they're going
to come after you and the price gets higher and higher and higher for people.
It's the only way to do it. Let's put that theory to a
test. Karen. No, Nope, not ever, Nope, nope,
not ever. Not me. I disagree because you're wrong and you're and you
may be evil, but more than anything, you're just wrong, and I
will you want to protect children? You know not? It's important, Yes,
it is. It's very important, Yes, Karen Katileen. It's very
very important that I get a chance to talk to you on almost a weekly
basis. And thank you for making that happen again this week. I appreciate
it. And again the bet is settled. We're done. My chiefs won.
Thank you, my chiefs one, my chief take care of KK Bob
all right, Karen Catalen on the Nightcap on seven under w LW will wrap
it up with Dave Hatter coming up, Rocky Boyman year, I played in
the NFL, and that's pretty cool. I'm also a published author and that's
pretty cool. I'll also once share an elevator with a Dalai Lama and that's
also pretty cool. But none of that compares to hearing the podcast of the
Eddie and Rocky Show on the iHeartRadio app. Now that's very cool. In
this week's Marketers Report, then well, you know what, he's not a
president of anything, although he is still the mayor of Fort Wright because no
one else will take the position. So we do have an actual executive on
the show tonight to celebrate President's Day and the world of Internet things, and
that would be our tech guy, Dave Hatter, once again joining us.
And I say our because I like to take ownership with somebody who's such a
great guest when he's really all over everywhere all the time, but particularly on
the night Cap, and it's great to have him back. Dave Hatter,
congratulations to being a chief executive officer on President's Day. Well, thanks,
I think Garry, Jeff, it's always good to be here. I appreciate
you having me on and appreciate doubts to try to raise awareness about our increasingly
insane digital world. China's vult typhoon spies broke into emergency network of large US
city, and they are targeting more and more. You and I have talked
about this a couple of times, more than a couple of times, about
the real danger may not be from some kind of kinetic attack from foreign powers,
instead from a cyber attack that disrupts our water, our power, our
communications. And they are making great inroads and they are doing recon all the
time. Tell me the latest on China's volt typhoon spy network. Yeah,
Gary, Jeff, I think everything you said is spawn on. You and
I have discussed this many times. You know, the critical infrastructure. So
when you hear nerds like me, you say critical infrastructure, or when you
hear organizations like SISSA, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency or the FBI or others
warned about critical infrastructure, this is the sort of thing they're talking about.
And I want to come back to this specific story in a second. So
here's the headline from the Wall Street Journal yesterday. FBI director says China cyber
attacks on US infrastructure now at unprecedented scale. So here's a quote at a
scale greater than we've ever seen. This is from Director Ray and the story
refers to this volt tyson and hacking group we're talking about. So you know,
this is There's been a lot of talk about this for a long time,
but the urgency and the amount oppressed this is getting has gone way up
in the past four to five months. And you know, I'm glad to
see that it's finally starting to get the attention that I think it deserved for
a long time, because everything you said was right, you know, whether
it's the electrical grid, whether it's water plants, whether it's knocking out critical
transportation infrastructure. I read it one time. I mean, I don't know
that I'm one hundred percent accurate on this. I'm going to a memory because
there's like, on average about three days where supplies and the supply chain thanks
to just in time, right, this idea that we don't want to have
a bunch of inventory, We don't want to carry these inventory costs. We
want to get stuff right when we need it, which I fully understand from
like a lean perspective, right, But we also know that a lot of
manufacturing has gone offshore. We know that during the pandemic it was hard to
get pharmaceuticals and so forth, so you know you already have supply chain issues.
We've seen that in the past. Imagine if you could knock out like
all of the rail system, or if you could launch of some sort of
attack on newer trucks that would knock them out. So, whether again it's
electrical or water or whatever, there's all these relatively fragile systems out there because
most of this stuff was built when this kind of security wasn't a concern,
and then in a desire to increase operational efficiency, which I get, and
to increase productivity, we've tried to automate all this stuff and integrate all these
different systems, which has created a lot of exposure. And again I like
to think of it as fragile because so much of this stuff is legacy and
it's been around for decades, long before any of these kinds of concerns were
a thing. So and when people say, well, how bad could it
get, don't take my work. Go see for yourself. See what various
government agencies and well well known world renowned cybersecurity experts have warned about this sort
of stuff and then just ask yourself again, if you could knock out the
power grid, let's see, in a struct sent like attack, I would
remind folks ducks met was a very very advanced computer virus that was delivered to
iranium. I'm sorry your iranium. Uranium centrifuges were refining the uranium to make
nuclear bombs, and these machines were telling the operators that they were operating with
intolerance and at the same time blowing themselves to pieces because you know, the
software was making them operate in the way they shouldn't, so they destroyed themselves.
So this is a real thing, and again I'm glad it's getting the
kind of the attention that I think it deserves, because we need to be
pressuring infrastructure organizations, we need to be pressuring government agencies, we need to
be pressuring our federal elected officials and to make sure that they're doing what it
takes to make sure these systems are secure by design and secure by default.
Well, I mean the volt type vult type one. Yes, go ahead,
no, please, you're a roll to get back to that, right.
This is a recent and that ties directly into what we're talking about here.
While I think the major threat is definitely the Chinese Communist Party, Director
Ray has said something to the effect that they believe that the Chinese Communist Party
and their military have fifty times the hackers we do, or something to that
effect. Again, I'm going from memory, so I may be off to
the hair, but it's a substantial army of people who are doing nothing but
a attempting to infiltrate our critical infrastructure, b steal our money, and see
steal our trade secrets. So I mean, you've got three major problems there,
but especially the critical infrastructure. Then you also have Russia, You've got
North Korea, You've got Iran doing these kind of things. But here's a
quote about bold typhoons. So when you hear these names like bold typhoons,
the government likes to give these attackers, these hacking groups sometimes known as advanced
persistent threats apt that they could give them names so they can track them and
so that they can say, okay, well this was attributed to this group.
And I'd also like to point out, if you're any good at this,
right, you're going to try to make it look like someone else didn't
The Chinese are going to try to make it look like the Russians did it
or vice versa. That's that's its own set of problems. But here's a
direct quote from the CEO of a very well known cybersecurity company commenting on this
old typhoon thing. Quote. The concern is the targets they pick across telecommunications
and electric power generation and distribution. These are very strategic targets. It's not
spray and prey unquote. They're definitely they're definitively targeting infrastructure systems that can cause
chaos should they be shut down. You know, here's another quote. It's
specifically looking at those sites that would be a strategic value to an adversary trying
to hurt our cripple US infrastructure. So I would encourage all of your listeners
go out, learn about these things, and then start to turn it because
all you got to do is the search. You know, again, Wall
Street Journal just ran this big thing with Director Ray yesterday. Just do a
quick search, start on critical infrastructure. You're going to find all kinds of
information, and we really need to turn up the pressure to start to address
these things before something goes terribly well, well, you know, you look
at say the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico, whose infrastructure was already not in
a great state, but you saw the misery and the death that was caused
by people not having electric power for days on end. You talk about the
three day supply chain. Look at Jackson, Mississippi, where the water system
was completely compromised and polluted. If a cyber criminal, vault, typhoon,
or anyone else could do the same thing that a natural disaster like a hurricane
or some other kind of disaster does to a water supply or a power grid,
and you see that in very very short amount of time, people who
never think about these kind of things, Dave are scrambling to survive. You
know, And Gary, Jeff, I know that sounds hyperbolic, but I
agree with you one hundred percent. I mean, think about it for a
second. Imagine if, without ever firing a shot, zero canetic action whatsoever,
an adversary, doesn't matter who it is, could turn off the power
and knock out the telecommunications that work all at once, because you know they've
got backup generators and that sort of thing. But let's say that you could
knock out the power, how does your water get pumped. I mean,
sometimes it's gravity, but there are electrical pumps that push that water. At
some point, you're going to run out of water if the power is off
for an extended period of time. If you knock out you know, the
telecommunications grid too, you can't make any phone calls. You don't know what's
going on, you have no information, you have no electricity, and you
know to your point, obviously, in a very hot summer, that's the
problem. But imagine, I mean it got pretty cold over the weekend.
How many people do you think would die if they were able to knock out
our power grid like today between now and one spring hits in the eastern you
know, in northern parts of the United States, because you wouldn't have any
heat. In many cases, it takes power to move the gas and the
gas lines, right, you know, I think people weigh underestimate, unfortunately,
how fortunate we are to live in a country where you know, when
you flip the switch, you expect the power to come on. When you
turn a faucet, you expect the water to come out, and thankfully,
throughout my entire lifetime that's always been the case. Yeah, But should that
stop because of an advanced fiber attack, We're going to have major, major
malfunctions. And again, I know this sounds crazy, Garrett Jeff, but
I just encourage people go see for yourself, don't take my word for it.
All the information is out there and some folks have been worrying about this.
Even if it's not a fiber attack, it could be any a strong
solar flare or an EMP attack that knocks this stuff out right. It doesn't
necessarily have to be some sort of cybersecurity computer nerd thing. There's other ways
that could cause this similar type of destruction and chaos, unfortunately, and we
need to harden our systems against it. Like yesterday, Yeah, really I
wanted to tackle with Dave Patter this story that you said me and it's it's
again something we have harped on many times in the past day. But it's
time to do it again and remind people who are those sharper image people they
just got to have the newest things and these aren't even new things anymore.
Uh. The uh, the fact that you're the fact that your little webcam
that you're using could allow hackers who hack into it since it is connected to
the net, to spy on you all the time, And yeah, you
can't. You can't just put a piece of tape over it and solve the
problem either. This is something that I just I wish more people would understand.
And maybe they do and they just don't care, and maybe they're maybe
they're exhibitionists and they you know, their life's of an open book. And
and you know what I'm not. I'm not doing anything I'm hiding from anybody,
necessarily inside my own home, but I am not inviting hackers to take
a look at my daily life with my wife every single day because I've got
a stupid webcam up. Well, Gary, Jeff, first off, you
know, people definitely need to consider why privacy is important. And I love
this quote. I wish I coined it, but I did. I don't
know where it came from. You know, privacy is why you draw the
curtains, security is why you lock your doors. Okay, And I know
people will say I got nothing to hide and all that, but increasingly,
you know, all of this data that's collected about you, whether you understand
it or not, whether you consent to it full or not, it's being
used in ways people couldn't possibly possibly imagine and in ways that can be negative
to your ability to get a job or in a department, get insurance,
et cetera. But even if you take all of that out of the equation,
you know, now, thanks to AI, could I hack your web
camera, get some information and then turn that into some sort of video that
allegs you you did something bad? And we also know from tactical experience that
sometimes when you maybe your your camera is on and you don't realize it,
like the guy from CNN if you recall what was his name, Jeffrey Tuban,
Yes, you may recall he seemed to be having a moment with himself
on cameras. Yeah he was. He was, as they say, spanking
it during a company zoom call. But I wasn't sure if that was FCS
the approved term. But anyhow, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
but uh, you know, so for a long time, and I can
remember when this caused some controversy, I don't know, maybe four or five,
six years ago, when people like Mark Zuckerberg and former FBI director Comy
would show up at events and they'd have a piece of tape over the camera
on their computer, right, and it's like, oh, that's some kind
of tinfoil hat and uttery. Why would remind folks too that you know,
software could be dropped on your your device that could enable these cameras and microphones
and so was without your knowledge. It has been done and used in court
against defendants. So yeah, I'm all for or you should cover up your
camera. You should not have devices that have cameras and microphones in them of
any sort, any IoT device, computers or whatever, unless you really need
them and understand the potential consequences and how to defend against them. But this
story here is even crazier, and it goes to show a We're lucky that
there are smart researchers out there who are trying to find these kinds of problems,
people like Google Project zero and Palo Alto Unit forty two and other organizations
who get paid to do this kind of research consumer reports. So what researchers
have discovered is if you have a modern notebook type computer that's got a camera
in it, most of these things have sensors built into them to try to
determine how much light there is in the room and then change like the ambient
lighting in the keyboard backlighting and the monitor and that sort of thing. Right,
most people probably know you can set your computer up to like and at
a certain time at night, change how bright the screen is and so forth.
So what these researchers have determined is even if you cover up the camera,
it's possible, per their research, to use the ambient lighting sensors to
basically see you see what your hands are doing, which means they could perhaps
get your passwords. Now, this is a very advanced hack. I don't
think it's ever been done out in the wild, but it goes to show,
like, you know, if you do some research, you'll find there's
all kinds of wild stuff out there, mit scientists fireing a laser at a
light bulb in the room and picking up what you're saying from the vibrations of
the light bulb, being able to use lasers and other types of technology to
watch what the lights on the computer are doing and steal your data. So,
you know, the good news is there are people out there who are
constantly doing this kind of research and trying to find these kinds of concerns.
Is the average person going to be hacked by the ambient light sensors in your
computer? Probably not, But the advice of the research is put them somewhere
else on the computer so they're not facing the operator right, So then you
would have less risk of data being stolen, passwords being stolen, or who
knows what else. But it just goes to show there are smart people.
And Gary, Jeff, you know, if the good smart people are doing
this kind of research and finding these problems, what are the bad smart people
doing? Yeah, you know they're doing it and probably way ahead, probably
way ahead, you know. So it just goes to show if you're not
taking this stuff seriously, bad stuff can happen. And we're fortunate that there
are people exposing these things and then hopefully downstream either A people wise up and
change their behavior and or b the manufacturers build in more security, change how
the devices work, et cetera. But it's a wild story and there's new
stuff like this coming out all the time. And that's why I love to
have you on other than the fact that I just like you, Dave,
is that you're here to be our clarion to alert us that it's going on
because you follow all of it. So well. Thank you again for your
time tonight, mister pre Mayer. My pleasure, Gary Jeff always good to
be on. All right, Dave Hatter, you can find him all over
the place, and thankfully for me here on the Nightcap. As we close
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