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As Hail to the Chief finishes with
a flourish, as we close out this

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President's Day and open up a nightcap
for Monday Night. February nineteenth, twenty

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twenty four. Remember when that song
played. Maybe you don't, but I

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remember when that song would play,
and it meant an important person was coming

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in the room, someone who is
to be looked up to, someone who's

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to be respected. I don't think
we have that as a country anymore,

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and that is sad. The president
was never supposed to be the king.

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That's the whole reason we fought that
little revolutionary war thing almost two hundred and

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fifty years ago. No, the
president was supposed to be the chief executive.

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He was supposed to be the commander
in chief of our military forces.

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He was a person that was supposed
to hold the country together. Seemingly,

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more and more, the person who
holds that office is in charge of pulling

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the country apart. And I include
everybody in that. It's not partisan for

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me to say that. But tonight
we will examine the importance of President's Day

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with historian and Christian brother Scott Powell, who wrote the great book Rediscovering America.

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It's still out there, and I
still encourage. It's such an easy

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read, and it has so much
much to say about the traditions and the

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celebrations and the holidays that we do
celebrate in this country and why we celebrate

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them and why they are important integral
to keeping this country together. Scott Powell

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will join us tonight the great Cheryl
Chumley, who is a thinker and writer

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and a correspondent beyond compare, who
led the way during the scamdemic, who

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has so many great things to say
about the American people, and has so

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many things to point out about where
we're at right now as a country.

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It needs to be said, and
Cheryl will help us say that tonight.

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Also Peter Bronson, one of my
favorite folks in the entire world, not

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just the tri State, but anybody
that I've met, anybody that I have

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interviewed, anybody that I've spent a
little bit of time with. Peter is

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just top notch number one. We'll
spend an entire hour segment with him,

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and we also have along the way
Karen Katalene, another one of my favorites,

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and Dave Hatter, the IT guy. It's the Nightcap on President's Day

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Night and it's about to get started. So bear with me just for a

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few moments, and we'll be right
back to do just that. Gary Jeff

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Walker with you on this President's Day
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from VO. As I mentioned at
the top, it is President's day,

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and he's a president of my book
club. His name is Peter Bronson.

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He is the author of fantastic,
phenomenal books like Going all the Way Back

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to the aftermath of the Timothy Thomas
riots and the collaborative in Cincinnati with the

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police behind the lines, and then
of course you had The Forbidden Fruit about

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the Beverly Hills Supper Cup Club blaze
and the influence of organized crime in northern

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Kentucky. Then Not in our town, The King of Smutt versus the Queen

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City, or the Queen City versus
the King of Smutt, the battle with

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Larry Flint, and to keep Cincinnati
a more respectable place to live, and

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of course the latest The Man Who
Saved Cincinnati, which is a Civil War

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tome with just incredible history included in
it. Peter does such phenomenal research on

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these books, so you know they're
not real conjecture here. He's one of

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those fascinating authors who was a just
the facts guy, but he makes it

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so entertaining to read the facts,
and I think that's the beautiful thing about

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Peter's writing and his work. Peter
Bronton, Welcome to the Nightcap. It's

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great to have you in the studio. Very glad to be here, Gary,

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Jeff, and thank you for that
really nice introduction. In fact,

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that was so nice. I think
we're promoting you from president of the book

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club to president and CEO. Thank
you. We'll put you in the fulfillment

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division. So great, just in
case if anybody wants to that sounds like

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a lot of work for me.
Can you imagine before we get started,

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can you imagine just for a second, being president of the United States and

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all of the all of the duties
and all of the responsibilities you have,

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and it is truly a twenty four
to seven job. And with under the

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backdrop of that, look at the
let's say, the work ethics and the

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abilities physical abilities of the two people
that may be running against each other again

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in November, Joe Biden and Donald
Trump. It is amazing. Isn't a

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man who takes one hundred and forty
days of vacation a year hides in his

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basement or on the beach really three
and sixty five days because he is not

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there. No, And and you
know when he's there, he's not there.

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Yes, the what do they call
that? It's not the window,

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it's the the time that he's available
during the day, he's available after ten

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as but not afternoon every day.
And Donald Trump just goes and goes.

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The energizer bunny of politics doesn't even
sleep apparently because he's doing texting, mean

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tweets at uh, you know,
four am and three. He doesn't know

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they the Trump campaign says, and
he says that if they're gonna have me

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in court during the day, I'll
just campaign at night. You know what.

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But isn't that amazing? No,
back to the original question, can

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you even fathom having that kind of
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Well, apparently that doesn't mean as
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we have had presidents in the recent
past who really take the job pretty lightly.

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We can see examples of this,
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have somebody who is like going back
to the Wilson era, where the man

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was basic all for all intents and
purposes. In a CALLMA, he was

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yeah, his wife was responsible.
Miss Wilson ran the country. What the

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last two years of the Wilson presidency. Yes, so apparently, from what

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I can judge, there are always
big teams of people who are willing to

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step in and do your job for
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it yourself, or if you are
incapacitated, and these people are glad to

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do your job for you because that
gives them the power. And that's everything

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in DC party politics. Power.
Those are the three. They matter way

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more than the best interests of our
country. Well, wouldn't you agree though,

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that Donald Trump during his presidency was
probably more hands off on than the

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last five or six pres you know, going back to maybe Reagan. Yeah,

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definitely too much hands on on his
phone with his tweets. Well,

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you know that never bothered me.
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on in so many ways that really
irritated, annoyed, enraged the deep state

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of the lifelong the power you were
talking what that power and he had.

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He had taken too much responsibility in
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do things that he had no business
interfering with, such as making our NATO

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allies step up to the plate,
such as keeping us out of wars,

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such as calling the China out for
what they really stand for, and interfering

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with those delicate trade agreements and all
those delicate diplomat diplomatic protocols with the State

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Department. So yeah, he he
was almost You couldn't get more opposite than

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Trump to Biden, could you.
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hands on, I think hands on
enough. I mean, he wasn't trying

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to pass laws as Joe Biden has
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presidential pulpit. No, he was
trying to maybe undo some regulations that needed

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undoing. He did undid a lot
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which also enraged the deep state,
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Party in our federal bureaucracy. If
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in the ideology of the people who
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institutions, all of these departments,
all these cabinet. There again two hands

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on to go after the FBI,
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these federal bureaucracies for what they are, and that enraged them because that threatened

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their power. And again because power
powers all that matters. Power matter in

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that Beltway, it would be power
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Whatever you can do in the game, how can you game to get over

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on the other guys? So that
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Washington, d C. And I
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a distant orthor fifth. Well,
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by a majority of the country.
How do you change that? Well,

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that's the question, isn't it If
to get back to what the founders in

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envision, to get back to the
limited government, limited government, citizen lawmakers

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who would go and do their bit
for the country and then go back home

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and start farming a field. Or
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Even in DC one hundred and hundred
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known as the Cincinnatus tradition, named
after the Roman warrior general who was called

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from his farm, won the war
to save the empire, and when they

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wanted to acclaim and raise him as
emperor, he said, nope, I'm

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going back to my farm. My
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Cincinnatus tradition that this our city was
named after. But it is completely lost,

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is it not. I mean,
on a rare occasion, you see

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somebody like brad Wenstrop say I've done
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It's time to go back to my
normal life, which I admire. But

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those are the kind of people we
rather keep than the ones who make a

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lifelong career out of serving there.
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a career. It was never supposed
to be a lifelong career politics, was

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it. No, it was a
means to an end of serving people,

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serving your fellow citizens. And there's
another stark contrast between the two candidates for

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president. We have, on the
one hand, a man who is very

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successful in the private sector, who
has done a number of things that you

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can think of, real estate,
investment, development, all these things TV

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and then he becomes president. Well, the establishment really doesn't like that.

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What they prefer is a man like
Biden who has spent his entire adult life

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in politics. He's never had a
real job outside outside to be in a

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lifeguard at one point. But he's
had enough, I mean, with the

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little black children rubbing the hair on
his legs, the white hair and his

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legs. But look at he is
easily manipulated, and he is their guy

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because he's steeped in that whole culture
of politics, power and party. And

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there's an eerie, eerie echo of
this from eighteen sixty, so just before

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the Civil War, the president was
Buchanan. President Buchanan was also for the

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first couple of years of the war, it was known as Buchanan's War because

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he, like Biden, was a
lifetime, lifelong political hack. That's what

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they called him. The whole country
loathed him pretty much, except for the

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Democratic Party that got him elected.
He was inept. He had spent his

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entire lifetime preparing to be president,
only to discover when he got there that

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he could not do the job.
He was a disaster, and when he

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left office people applauded. So I
see a lot of parallels. Well,

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you know, they were talking about
back when they were trying to still push

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this border bill they called it that
wasn't anything to do with the border really

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except legalizing the illegal immigrants that are
still invading our country. But they kept

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on talking. You hear this word
all the time in Washington, d C.

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Well, we need some compromise,
you know, And there's there's the

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turtle Mitch mcconne. Oh no,
we're trying to compromise with the Democrats to

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get something done for the American people, and all the rest of that garbage

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that they spew all the time,
and they always talk the importance of compromise

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comedy and not comedy like laugh comedy. The other one c O M I

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T y y we need comedy.
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and I was looking at my wife
Krista when they were talking about compromise on

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the border bill and how it wasn't
going to do anything but further inflame the

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problem. Yeah, and I said, well, that sounds an awful lot

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like the Missouri Compromise of eighteen fifty, which wound up causing a civil war.

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Good call, good call. Don't
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We're seeing the same kind of eruption
of confrontation between state and federal right

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now in Texas that we had just
before the Civil War. And this is

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being caused by weaponized immigration. Weaponized
immigration was used just before the Civil War

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by the North because that's where all
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it to load up their demographics to
seize political power in the House and Senate.

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So the South was basically kicked us
to the curb like some stepchild,

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and they had no voice in the
House and Senate. And this is one

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of the reasons leading up to the
Civil War that they said, hey,

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we're going to run things our way, and if you're not going to give

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us a voice in the political institut
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any part of We don't want to
be part of it. That's right.

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And they succeeded. And that's what's
happening, but not on a geographic level,

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but more like a red state blue
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versus rural level today. Yeah,
it absolutely is a battle right now between

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the major cities which are all happening
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as the North was dominated by Democrats. I've talked about this before. You

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get outside of the city of Cincinnati, or outside of any major population area

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that is controlled by Democrats, and
it is as republican, as conservative,

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as Trump loving as when you get
fifty miles outside Clairemont County, oh Atla

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County, Warren County, just go
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and look at the signs of people. That's what I'm saying there. It's

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it's such a day and night differ
it is. It's a shock. It's

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kind of one of those things that
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in two countries, that we are
just in many ways as divided as this

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nation was before the First Civil War. And I say first Civil War because

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it feels more and more like we
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for the second Civil When I was
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I was watching Antifa take over a
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was watching what was going on in
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going on in New York, when
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and the setting them on fire,
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was watching that, I said,
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beginning of a civil war in this
country. And you know the whole Biden

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campaign of let's put the adult back
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who can't diaper himself. That what
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room, and that that'll save the
country. And a lot of people voted

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because they knew that this violence,
a lot of it had to do with

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taken down Trump. Yes, and
it was a bullying intimidation, just like

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influencing a court verdict. And BLM
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were in the arm of the Democrat
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you know, sorrows money, sorrows
money, but again to divide the

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country, to further divide the country
and seize power again exactly. And the

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thing that I think a lot of
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you can call Biden divisive, whatever,

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but its force is far greater than
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I almost have a theory that they
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in twenty sixteen, because nothing that
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They almost let Donald Trump win,
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so many great things for the country
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as go with you this far,
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wanted that division to further increase,
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who was so brash, was going
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we will take a break. We'll
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back. Peter Bronson on President's Day
on the night Cap, looking forward to

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more. Hope you are too,
Gary, Jeff with you on seven hundred

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WLW News Traffic and Weather. News
Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati, A lack

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of a taking its toll on Ukrainian
forces with the nine to thirty report,

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I'm Sean Gallagher breaking now, Russian
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in the House continue to refuse to
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Senate which would provide military aid for
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US is back on the front lines
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soldier. The less firepower you have, the more casualties you have. He

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says, this is far worse than
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in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he
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from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather
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Sitting at Peter here in the studio. Tonight on seven hundred WLW, we

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were talking about the powers that want
to take ultimate power in this country,

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forcing division every turn, and maybe
being on the brink of another civil war,

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a second civil war. In the
United States of America, and instead

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of you said along geographical lines north
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Yes, And I was suggesting maybe, just maybe, because nothing happens

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in Washington, DC, that is
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be president just so they could further
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had some thoughts before the breakown.
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some part of that, which is
I think that they exploited him and for

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the way it divided the country,
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as a unintended but I think they
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that he attracted this populous following of
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his Trump rallies, that's a stark
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because when you as rallies, these
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in the rural areas of Ohio,
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lot of people, So Texas,
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what I think the establishment, the
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him, they were shocked, and
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by this, but they quickly mobilized
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they did is they removed the Attorney
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and he was neutered. It was
one of the stupidest things that's ever

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happened. And then you had basically
a coup in the Justice Department to perpetrate

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and spread this Russia hoax to do
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it was largely effective when you think
about it. So it's hard to imagine

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what he might have accomplished if not
for that. And I think when it

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came to the second election, they
made sure that it would not happen again,

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and that from day one of his
inauguration forward, there were plans in

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motion to say this will never be
repeated, We will never have another president

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like this. And if you don't
have to guess at it, you can

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find people in Washington who will say
exactly that. Oh yeah, And even

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before he was elected the first time, you saw the emails from Peter Strock

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and uh yeah, and Lisa Paige, Yeah, we've got the insurance policy.

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Yes, Trump can't win, there's
no way he can win. We've

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got to prevent this at all costs
absolutely, and then they tried it to

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handcuff and largely did try to handcuff
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that were thrown at a July base, and he still got so much accomplished.

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It's good for the country. It's
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And the first thing Biden had to
do was undo all those good things

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that he which protect our sovereign border, you know, deal with China.

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All those things were gone away.
The drilling, the pipelines all gone away

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the very first day by executive order
by Penn. And and now that he's

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at thirty eight percent approval, he's
discovering some of those Trump ideas. We're

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pretty good. I have no idea
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as low as we've ever heard of
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of anybody that low, including even
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the war in Iraq, when the
media and all these people were protesting war.

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Who are now scratch your head over
this one. They're the biggest warhawks

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for Ukraine. How does that track
that the same people who hated Bush over

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Iraq are now that when we actually
had an interest terrorism, are now the

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big warhawks for Ukraine where we have
no real interest, No exactly. And

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you see the pictures of the atrocity
and the women and the children and the

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bombed out buildings in Ukraine, and
you know, and this is their argument

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for us to continue to fund this
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his his his terrible, terrible tactics, and his bloodthir bloodlust must be conquered

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at any cost. And as long
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long as it takes. It's like, whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever,

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that's scary. Oh no, whatever
it takes. Oh does that include

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young American lives that would be sacrificed? There? How about nuclear weapons or

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or chemical weapons or whatever it takes, whatever it is. And you hear

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responsible people a think tanks and in
the media it's allegedly responsible people say that,

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They're neo condults who are part of
the war machine. Yeah, because

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war machine is only allowed to operate
if it's directed by one Party. Have

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you noticed, Oh yeah, exactly. Uh, you know what I'd like

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to see American groups on our southern
border right now? Well? Absolutely,

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Instead, we're sending more money to
Ukraine for their borders than we are for

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our own border. And Joe Biden
says, well, it's Congress's it's Congress's

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purview. Noe, Joe. You
signed the executive order rescinding Trump stay in

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Mexico, the wall and deporting people, that's all. Congress didn't act then,

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and the deep state didn't like it. But the deep state's not going

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to like losing power. So I
wonder how many votes they're going to truck

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in on election night this year?
Well to save their ass. Those plans

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are foot. If you read the
latest studies by the Heartland Institute, as

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much as forty percent of the mail
end votes twenty percent in many places were

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fraud. Yeah, and these are
all documented surveys. And that's just the

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people who would admit it. So
how many more would see a survey like

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that and not admit that they're part
of voter fraud? Well, and there

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have been studies that have just been
pushed out, including the one with Hartland

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in the Epoch Times. Yes,
that said, this study shows that Trump

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really did win the twenty twenty election
after all. And now he's being prosecuted

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for saying that he won the election
when it's obvious that he did, or

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even daring to say that he had
doubts about the outcome. That's right.

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Do you recall back in the dim
past when Al Gore actually litigated an election

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because he had doubts and he said
he won. Nobody thought of prosecuting him

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for that. It could have about
Hillary Clinton after that. You imagine how

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much behind and I said this at
the time, how much behind the eight

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ball the Bush administration, the first
Bush administration was because Al Gore impeded their

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ability for the peaceful transfer of power. Unbelievable And and it went right up

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until January. We were like weeks
away from Inauguration day before the Supreme Court

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decided, yes, George W.
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there's even more behind the scenes.
So after that, we had people in

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for editorial boards at the Inquirer who
were at the Bush administration who told us

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stories about what they encountered when they
got into the White House after the Clinton

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people left. They had sabotaged computers. Yeah, I heard about it.

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They had deliberately just vandalized whatever they
could to make the transition as impossible as

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they could. Now, that is
not leadership, that's children, that's juvenile

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delinquents. And what happened in September
of two thousand and one, what was

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allowed to happen in two thousand and
one. I always believed in my heart,

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Pete that if the Bush administration had
been allowed to set up everything they

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needed to set up, September eleventh
never happened. Oh, that's a good

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point. Well, we also know
that Clinton was given the option to take

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out Osama bah Yeah, we know
that that terrorist cell long before that,

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and he passed. It was not
politically good optics at the moment for him.

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Right. This is what I mean
when I say that power and their

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party and politics all trump everything about
the future of this country. That's a

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lot of reasons. That's pretty much
describes where we are now. Do you

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have a I mean, obviously George
Washington, the founder of the country,

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basically, who led us in victory
over the British in the Revolutionary War.

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Do you have any other favorite presidents? I have some ideas myself. But

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let's kick around a few. I
would say probably near the top of my

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list is Ronald Reagan because he actually
achieved so much that turned this country back

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in the right direction after the disaster
of Jimmy Carter, after the disaster of

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Watergate and all the things that were
dividing the country. And so that's in

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my lifetime. If I go back
before my lifetime, I'm an admirer of

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cal Coolidge. I think silent cal
was a real strong leader, a great

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president. He had the Cincinnatis attitude. If you nominate me, I will

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not run. If you elect me, I will not serve. I mean

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that's he basically said, no,
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done. I like that. Those
would be really near the top of my

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list. I'm an admirer of Harry
Truman a little bit. He did some

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good things. He had the guts
to do what had to be done.

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And I can see a lot of
I just I wonder compared to some of

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these people, and of course Washington, how can you, how can you

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hold anybody any higher than the first
president of our country who was such a

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great man and he and the great
thing about that is he would abhor that

413
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.599
admiration. Yes, you know,
that's why you got a loving exactly.

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We talked about talked about Abraham Lincoln, and you had some good thoughts on

415
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Lincoln. And he's looked at as
one of the great America. He's got

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to be in that top five for
saving the Union. But would you put

417
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him at number one? No?
No, why not Washington? Yeah,

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me too. Without Washington, none
of the rest of that is possible,

419
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:27.119
exactly. But Lincoln did a lot
of things that mannard. You look back

420
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on him now, Oh, today's
press, if they really looked at it

421
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would be he'd have to be His
statues would have to come down absolutely.

422
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I mean, he promised he dismissed
the writ of hapeas Corpus in the Civil

423
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War. He's spended civil rights,
arrested political enemies. Yeah, through him

424
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.280
in jail. Let him be go
into the military courts. He also told

425
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.760
all the Southern states before he was
elected, even when he wasn't on the

426
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.639
ballot, he told him that I
have no intention of doing anything about slavery.

427
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.840
That's the peculiar institution, as he
called it, was part of their

428
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.280
enomy. And he was not interested
at all at that point and now in

429
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.920
his deepest convictions. Oh yeah,
you've seen his writings and other speeches.

430
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But as the politician Abe Linco,
and he was trying to reassure them that

431
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he was not going to turn the
country under a civil war, which is

432
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exactly what happened. I mean,
who was the president who was elected twice

433
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.599
but not consecutively. Was it Grover
Cleveland who was elected and then one again?

434
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.599
When Yeah, that's a good question. I'm trying to that'll come up

435
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.760
now because it was because would be
similar, yeah to what's going on with

436
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.079
Donald Trump, if you know,
if they can't cheat enough to keep him

437
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.360
out of office. Yeah, he
asked to win by the margin of fraud,

438
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.559
right exactly. But do you know
when you but when you shut up,

439
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.000
when you suspend voting in the middle
of the night and close pull the

440
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.440
curtains down around all the windows and
trucks back up with fraudulent ballots, they

441
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.480
kick everybody. Yeah, I mean, how do you ever know what the

442
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.079
margins of fraud will be? Two
o'clock in the morning, we're counting again.

443
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.599
And my friend Loll Ponty, my
late friend Loll Ponty, God rest

444
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:17.199
his soul, told me in uh
in the spring of twenty twenty spring and

445
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.119
summer of twenty twenty. He said, well, here's what I think will

446
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:27.760
happen, Gary, Jeff. I
think that on election night, Donald Trump

447
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.559
will be solidly in the lead,
and then they will find votes like al

448
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:39.480
Franken exactly what happened, exactly exactly, and then it's low. Then it's

449
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.880
gonna be a question that Democrats getting
on the phone and we need more trucks,

450
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.920
no doubt, five more truck loads
ballots, please immediately, and they're

451
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.320
gonna have to find I think they're
gonna have to find a different way to

452
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.559
cheat this time. Well, because
of the electronic method yes exactly, which

453
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.800
a lot of people were afraid of, with the commuter systems and the some

454
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of the that was done, and
some of it was done, the switching

455
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:07.119
of votes, but the trucking in
of ballots. Why can't we just go

456
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back to paper ballots? Oh,
being counted individually by human beings. You

457
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.320
know what's really annoying to is that, Okay, this you can argue,

458
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as we have that the election was
stolen, or you can argue that it's

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00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.760
questionable, but you cannot argue as
the Democrats and the media have done since

460
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that election day that it was the
most honest and fair election in history.

461
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.440
It's a lie. It's it's not
just a lie, it's a big lie.

462
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.679
It's got to be one of the
big, big lies. That is

463
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:43.440
so big then you can use that
to just cudgel people with it and say

464
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.719
we can't even talk about it.
You're not even allowed to talk about it

465
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.639
or raise your doubts because it was
the most honest and fair election in the

466
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.519
history of the US. Do you
remember being a kid and when you were

467
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.719
first aware of who the president was, how that was such a big thing

468
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:06.599
in your head. You're like,
Wow, that's that's really an important position.

469
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.000
I mean, this is someone to
be revered and honored, and I

470
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.400
think a lot of that's gone.
Now. When did the When did the

471
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presidency really begin to shrink? My
argument would be during the Lewinsky scandal,

472
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.519
right when we when the country and
the media made up their minds that it

473
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:28.320
was okay to commit a crime and
to besmirched the office of the presidency in

474
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.840
that manner because he's a he's a
likable guy. So the crime was lying

475
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.280
was covering up the crime. The
original and was then lying about it,

476
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:45.320
perjuring himself, and then to just
do that before the whole world in the

477
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.360
Oval office was beyond the pale.
Oh yeah, but we had. I

478
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.599
was at the well Yasser Airfits in
the Rose Garden, waiting for some ceremony

479
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:01.239
with Clinton. He's busy, the
President is, and Detain the Intern was

480
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:07.519
delivering a pizza. Peter Bronson,
our guest on this President's Day nightcap.

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00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.960
And Pete, let's let's go back
through through your repertoire here. What is

482
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.159
still available of the books you have? And I know The Man who Saves

483
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.920
Cincinnati is still just selling like crazy. It is. It's very popular.

484
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You said, the people love their
history. He said that the folks at

485
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:30.039
the library said that they've never seen
a waiting list for a book to be

486
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checked out, like at seventy people
in line. Yeah, that's what I

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00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.239
get. The Man who Saves Cincinnati. Yeah, fantastic. I love it.

488
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.119
I'm gonna have to get more books
so those people don't have to wait

489
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so long. But yeah, all
of the books from Behind the Lines,

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00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.400
Forbidden Fruit, Not in Our Town, and The Man who Saves Cincinnati are

491
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.760
available. All of them are available
on my website, which is Chili Dog

492
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:57.440
Press chilidogpress dot com and sign copies
available there. Prices everything is there.

493
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:01.679
There's some discounts you can find as
well, and also there, i should

494
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.400
say, available at most of the
local bookstores, including the big chains like

495
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.960
Barnes and Noble. Joseph Beth does
a really good job at rookquod of handling

496
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.519
the books, Robling Point Books,
and of course the Megaseller. Amazon has

497
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:21.800
copies of just about everything fantastic well, and I'm glad I've got a copy

498
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.239
of a couple of those. I'm
glad to hear some of my favorite books.

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You're one of my favorite people.
Thanks for being with us on President's

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Day Night on the Nightcap Peter Bronson
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Com, body armors zero things I
love about this show, and I really

508
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have to savor them now because we've
got like less than two months left before

509
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.800
the Reds take over this time slot
with baseball season in twenty twenty four.

510
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.079
So I'm really, you know,
cherishing every moment that I get. And

511
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.960
one of the people that I've really
enjoyed kind of getting to know, I

512
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.440
mean, do you ever really know
anybody? But in some subsequent conversations we've

513
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.840
had, and somebody that writes every
day for The Washington Times is a christian

514
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:39.320
An author and just a fantastic person
named Cheryl Chumley, and she is joining

515
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.840
us for this half hour tonight.
Cheryl, how are you doing. I'm

516
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.880
doing great. Thank you so much
for having me. No, it's great.

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00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.039
I was reading some of the stuff
from your website, which cherylchummeley dot

518
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.079
com, which he said, I
haven't really updated that, but that sounds

519
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.880
like me and social media too,
so we won't we won't bang on you

520
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.719
for that. But one of the
the stories I saw that was, you

521
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:07.639
know, going back to Lord to
October Bold and Blunt Government's January sixth lies,

522
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:15.159
and it pertains now because there were
still political prisoners in jail, in

523
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:20.719
prison for being at the Capitol on
January sixth, twenty twenty one, and

524
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.559
the president himself is on trial.
The president. You're always president, what's

525
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.840
your president? Right? President Trump
is waiting on the Supreme Court to decide

526
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.960
if he has immunity. I still
am trying to figure out what he needs

527
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:44.599
immunity for to whin it regards January
sixth, but whether he has immunity for

528
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.920
actions while in office because January sixth, twenty twenty one, President Trump was

529
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:54.519
still in office and the speech he
made it the Ellipse, and they're trying

530
00:42:54.559 --> 00:43:04.159
to criminalize an opinion basically by the
commander in chief at that time regarding all

531
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.280
of that. And we know now
from stories and studies from Heartland and the

532
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:14.159
Epoch Times. These studies prove what
many of us suspected or knew all along,

533
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.800
is that, yeah, basically,
Donald Trump did win the twenty twenty

534
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.519
presidential election. He wasn't lying,
And then they're still trying to prosecute him

535
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:28.119
and persecute him because they don't know
what else to do. He's got such

536
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.440
a groundswell of popularity in his country, and you see it in poll after

537
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:37.719
poll after poll. So on this
President's day, what do you think?

538
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.440
Do you have any crystal ball?
Do you have any predictions about what the

539
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.840
Supreme Court might say about this?
There is president there are two other cases

540
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:54.639
where presidents were claimed to have immunity, one James Madison and one or Andrew

541
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.519
Johnson. I mean, and of
course Richard Nixon as well, So I

542
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.000
mean you're thoughts on that first and
foremost here, Well, I don't have

543
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.239
a crystal ball on what the Supreme
Court will do because they've surprised me a

544
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.960
couple times with decisions, so you
know, I hesitate to say what they

545
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:19.280
would do. What they should do
is to grant President Trump his immunity protection,

546
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:25.280
because first off, it's ridiculous that
he even needs immunity for basically expressing

547
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:34.320
his heartfelt opinion about the election right, And second off, a lot of

548
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.840
the data, as you point out, shows that he is absolutely correct.

549
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.199
I mean, if we can't contest
elections in this country, if we can't

550
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.920
say that an election needs to be
contested, or that we believe we're the

551
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.679
rightful candidate who won the election,
then just going forward, that's going to

552
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.880
put a stop to any candidate,
and let's be real here, any Republican

553
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.800
candidate, because that's who it'll really
put a stop to contesting any election results.

554
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.039
I hope the Supreme Court does the
right thing and grants Donald Trump the

555
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:08.079
immunity that he rightfully deserves. Well, we were talking about it just before

556
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:13.519
we started this conversation, and I
said, al Gore never was threatened with

557
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:20.480
going to prison for contesting the two
thousand election, which severely handcuffed the incoming

558
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.320
totally violated the peaceful transfer of power
we're supposed to have when it comes to

559
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:30.800
that particular office in this country.
And you said something very telling. Democrats

560
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.400
don't go to jail, right,
Well, right, they don't. I

561
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.320
mean, yeah, I remember that. Well, the hanging chance, the

562
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:43.199
hanging chance, the you know,
the dispute went on for over thirty days.

563
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.239
I think it was ended up in
the Supreme Court, and you know,

564
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.159
sorry al Gore, but she didn't
win, and like you said,

565
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.519
there were no calls for al Gore
to go to jail. It's a different

566
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.119
political climate, and we know what's
going on here. This is all about

567
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.320
Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
Right, the groundswell of support that he

568
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.679
continues to have even though he is
attacked in the courts now from all angles.

569
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.480
And it's just simply to shut down
the idea of an American first policy

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00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.519
which Donald Trump brought into office.
It wasn't just a bumper sticker with him,

571
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.159
but he actually did put America first. And that's what the globalists in

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00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.800
their partners in the Democrat Party cannot
stand. Oh no, they can't have

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00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.280
that, because if we actually put
America first, there's no way they seize

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00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.599
total, absolute control, which is
what they want. Yep, you go

575
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.360
back to al gorgeous for a moment. I was. I lived in Tennessee

576
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.559
for a long time and then moved
up to Ohio for work in the early

577
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:52.599
nineties. But I knew Tennessee pretty
well, and al Gore's family had been

578
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.320
politically connected in the state of Tennessee
for a long long time. And in

579
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:05.119
two thousand, when Tennessee over whelmingly
rebuffed al Gore as a presidential candidate,

580
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.880
I knew right then and there there's
no way in hell that al Gore has

581
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.360
won this election. He can't even
win his own state where people know him

582
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.320
best, where he served as a
senator. You know for multiple terms that

583
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:22.000
there's no way as a congressman also
in the House of Representatives, there's no

584
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:23.960
way he's president of the United States
if you can't win in your own state.

585
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.719
And I look at what's going on
with the primary situation in South Carolina

586
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:35.360
this Saturday. Nikki Haley is down
thirty points to President Trump in this latest

587
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:42.440
poll, and she still continues to
spend her donor's money and campaign to be

588
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:49.800
the alternative to bad Orange Man.
And I keep on thinking, you're not

589
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.800
going to win the state where you
were governor, Lady, how do you

590
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:59.960
think you're going to ultimately defeat Donald
Trump in a presidential primary or in anything?

591
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.320
And her argument is, well,
she's beating all the other candidates by

592
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:09.679
far, Yeah, but you neglected
one, Nicki. I mean it has

593
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.960
been kind of like, is that
just another nat around Donald Trump's face,

594
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.800
that the Deep State's trying to throw
Nicki Haley in that campaign? What do

595
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.880
you think about that? Here?
Well, she is being bankrolled at least

596
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.760
in part by Democrats, right,
and there is a fairly well funded anti

597
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.440
Trump, you know, grouping out
there who are funding her as well.

598
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.320
And look, it's her, right, it's her right to campaign for president

599
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:42.039
as long as she wants to.
And it's just that we all know in

600
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.840
the American public right and in most
of the media, that she doesn't stand

601
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.400
a chance. So if her funders
want to keep throwing their money away by

602
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.559
keeping her propped up as a viable
candidate to Donald Trump, then you know,

603
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.440
have at it. But look,
Donald Trump is the Republican candidate.

604
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.760
I think they're keeping Nicky Haley because
they think that, you know, Donald

605
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:07.119
Trump still has some courtroom appearances to
make, he still has some legal issues

606
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.679
that he's got to work through,
and they're holding out hope that one of

607
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.920
these legal daggers being thrown at him
is going to be the one that boots

608
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.880
him from the race, right,
the one that brings him down and cripples

609
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:22.360
him. And so they want to
keep Nicki Haley as a Bible standing candidate.

610
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.559
But it's not going to happen because
the American people. The more Donald

611
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.280
Trump gets dragged into court, the
more he gets vilified by the left and

612
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.119
you know, by the Soros funded
prosecutors, the more his pull numbers arise,

613
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.320
the numbers just keep going up.
Yeah, they keep going up.

614
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:43.519
So he's the candidate. Sooner or
later, Nicky Haley will drop out,

615
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:46.280
but I suspect it's going to be
as we go through this legal process a

616
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:52.559
little bit longer. I remember when
I guess it had been six months,

617
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.199
seven months ago, when they were
detailing all of the different criminal and civil

618
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.719
charges against Donald Trump and dope which
ones were the most problematic and which ones

619
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:08.599
posed the biggest threat to Donald Trump
running and winning the presidency again. And

620
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:13.760
they all pointed to the Georgia election
case because that was a state case,

621
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:19.159
and then it was a reco case. And with all of that, all

622
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:27.519
of that blowing up last week,
with the revelations about Fanny Willis and how

623
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.599
corrupt her office was, and you
know, all the other sordid details which

624
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:37.280
I really don't care about. I
don't care about what the relationship was with

625
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.239
Nathan Wade or anything, but the
impropriety, just the appearance of impropriety seems

626
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:47.280
to have put that on the breaks. Anyway, in the state of Georgia.

627
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.039
I thought that was probably the most
serious one. They're trying to make

628
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.480
this January sixth case the one that
sticks, but the Georgia state case,

629
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.360
where there's no kind of you know, federal check and balance on it,

630
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.800
so to speak, even though it
was about a federal election. I don't

631
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.519
know how they made it a state
case, but that seemed like the biggest

632
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:16.599
bugaboo and obstacle in Donald Trump's way. Do you think that that goes away

633
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.239
with Fanny Willis? Do you think
that they'll make her recuse herself or drop

634
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:27.480
the case or postpone it. Well, I never thought that that case had

635
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:32.000
much legs to move forward anyhow,
because I found it ridiculous that she was

636
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.320
using rico right around hearing that's for
the mafia, that's that's not for you

637
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:45.119
know, somebody contesting election results and
supposedly putting pressure to you know, on

638
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.159
the state authorities and so forth.
And she overreached. You know, she

639
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.719
didn't just go for Donald Trump.
She was trying to She was ringing in

640
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:58.760
eighteen other co defendants of Donald Trump. Hold on, that's some of those

641
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.320
have made plea deals all ready in
that case in Georgia. I wonder if

642
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:07.400
those get thrown out. Yeah,
it's just you know, the plea deals

643
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.800
that people make, right with these
deep state types. I'm always suspicious about

644
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.159
how much pressure went into making that
plea right because there comes at a certain

645
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:20.000
point in time where you have to
worry about your family, your finances.

646
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.320
To me, that's the biggest thing
that the Deep State is going after Donald

647
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:29.800
Trump and all his so called co
conspirators to basically bankrupt them. And so

648
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.679
that's to me the biggest threat.
It's you know, when the money runs

649
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.159
out, is when people start talking
about plea deals and so forth. And

650
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:44.679
so I don't really see this Georgia
case going. You know, it's not

651
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:49.519
going to prevent Donald Trump from winning
the primary. He's going to be the

652
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.440
candidate. And I think, like
you said, it has blown up quite

653
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.199
a bit because now we see Fanny
Willis right facing some of the old her

654
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.559
own fire that she started, you
know, against Donald Trump. So,

655
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.400
yeah, he's going to be the
candidate. I don't know what else to

656
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:09.079
say. The deep State is trying, but they haven't brought him down and

657
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.760
they won't be well. I mean, if they can keep him off the

658
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.679
ballot, then they don't have to
manufacture all those ballots in the middle of

659
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:22.519
the night on election night like they
did in twenty twenty. Yeah. I

660
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:32.239
think also that people are kind of
over the brashness and the boldness and maybe

661
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:38.000
just the shoot from the hip style
of Donald Trump, and they understand it

662
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:43.119
now, the average person. I'm
not talking about the deep state or Democrats

663
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.440
obviously, but I think that most
people now are used to the fact that

664
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:53.880
Donald has a really wicked sense of
humor and he's going to be that way.

665
00:53:54.599 --> 00:54:00.840
So that's one less argument against him, I think, yes. And

666
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.880
you know, Joe Biden, the
Democrat Party right now has some serious challenges

667
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.360
to overcome. First off, their
puppet, demented president Joe Biden, right

668
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.719
we've all seen them shaking hands with
the air and calling out dead people.

669
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.920
That's a serious issue. But for
most Americans, the big issue right now

670
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.079
is the economy. You know,
I talk to people who just moderate salaries

671
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:29.639
or whatever getting started in life,
and they see a massive difference between when

672
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.719
Donald Trump was president and now when
Joe Biden is president and they go food

673
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.000
shopping. These are things that really, you know, that drive home to

674
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:42.920
people about the need of change in
the political arena. And the Democrats aren't

675
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:49.360
offering anybody else besides Joe Biden.
They are attacking Donald Trump, which maybe

676
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.280
a lot of people are still turned
off by Donald Trump. Though I agree

677
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.159
with what you're saying that most people
are used to them by now, But

678
00:54:54.280 --> 00:55:00.119
at the same time, they're not
offering a viable option. They're just you

679
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.400
know, sticking Joe Biden back out
there on the stage to stumble about.

680
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.079
And I think people are sick of
what Democrats have provided the last three years,

681
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.880
and there's nobody better. So it
just doesn't look like it's going very

682
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.840
well for Democrats. One last thing, Cheryl Chimley is our guest here in

683
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:22.920
the nightcap on this President's Day night, and this is a non presidential political

684
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:29.559
necessarily, but kind of political as
much as I know you were a staunch

685
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:35.800
critic of these mandates during what I
call the scamdemic, the you know,

686
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:40.800
the lockdowns and the masking and the
vaccine mandates. I talked to a friend

687
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:46.440
of mine who was a general practitioner
doctor who was a firm believer in all

688
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:53.840
the protocols back in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one, and he's had to

689
00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:01.599
undergo some infusions for some health issues
he's got now, and the doctor who

690
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:06.239
examined him and did the test results
said, you know, you don't have

691
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:12.519
any covid antibodies at all, even
though he's had five injections to protect against

692
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.840
COVID nineteen. In the last three
years, he's had the infection itself,

693
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:22.039
of course a couple of times and
has no COVID antibodies whatsoever. And I

694
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:28.920
hate that for him, but it
feels like great vindication and validation for people

695
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:35.719
like me. Is said, I
don't believe in this miracle experimental shot that

696
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.320
they whipped together in seven months,
and I'm not going to put that in

697
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:44.239
my body. I just wanted your
view on that. Errol, Well,

698
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:50.360
there's this meme that goes around on
social media that says something akin to the

699
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:57.559
number of people who have regretted not
getting the shot is zero, Right,

700
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.760
like all the people who have suffered
help issues from the shot, maybe from

701
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.440
the shot, maybe from the boosters
and so forth, all the vears reporting,

702
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.719
you know, the number of people
who have issues because they didn't get

703
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:13.280
the shot, right, There aren't
people who are complaining about that. They

704
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.159
feel lucky, they feel blessed that
they held out. And look, this

705
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:20.239
is the reality. And some of
us knew early on. Some of us

706
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:24.239
knew that mandates for shots that were
rushed out in seven months instead of taking

707
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:31.880
the estimated average ten years it takes
to put forth a shot right from development

708
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:37.320
to people's arms as safe. Some
of us knew early on this was a

709
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.920
mistake, and yet the mandates under
Joe Biden went forth. And I just

710
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.840
think that lawsuits should be flying in
the coming years about people who have suffered

711
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:52.159
adverse impacts. Cheryl Shenley, thank
you so much. Thank you. It's

712
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.920
the Nightcap and it continues on seven
hundred WLW and this week's Marketers Report,

713
00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:00.280
we learn about the value of local
influencers in uncertain times from Alison Griffin,

714
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.880
head of marketing at State Farm the
Economy and has been on the program many,

715
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.800
many times before because he's just that
good, and he's nice enough to

716
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:15.360
give me some of his time,
and there's never enough time most of the

717
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.719
time. He is the author of
Rediscovering America, which is an incredible book.

718
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.159
It's uniquely written in chapters that tell
standalone stories about this country that will

719
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:30.440
blow your mind with the facts and
stories maybe you never heard before. And

720
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.679
in these times, perhaps the most
troubled times and since the founding of America,

721
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.960
which we'll be talking about tonight on
President's Day, Rediscovering America provides a

722
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:46.840
wealth of foundational information to empower you
and give you hope. Purposefully written to

723
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:52.800
be one of the shortest, and
it is. It's an easy read as

724
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:58.360
you go through the traditions and the
monuments and celebrations that this country holds deer

725
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:02.079
or used to hold deer. To
be one of the shortest and most powerful

726
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:07.159
American history books ever written. Great
for busy people who don't read books.

727
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.280
And I, as much as I
talk to authors, people make fun of

728
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:12.920
me, said Gary, Jeff,
you really don't read that many books,

729
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.400
but you have authors on their program
all the time. Said, well,

730
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.079
I get the cliffs notes from them. But in Scott's case, I got

731
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.440
the book and I just absolutely love
it. It's become a classic and record

732
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.639
time demand from home schools keep growing
through the word of mouth and no advertising.

733
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:34.360
We're doing a little free advertising tonight
for Rediscovering America and Rediscovering America also

734
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.960
a timelessly relevant book. Many people
have read it two or three times.

735
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.599
I go back and refer to it
all the time. I didn't bring it

736
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:45.880
to the studio today, sadly,
but it belongs in every concerned citizens library.

737
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:51.280
Scott Powell Rediscovering America President's Day how
are you doing, my friend,

738
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.920
Gary, Jeff, I'm doing really
well. That was a very very gracious

739
00:59:54.960 --> 01:00:00.199
introduction for which I'm very grateful.
But this is a great day if we

740
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:05.840
get focused on what has made us
great, and we got to acknowledge that

741
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.119
we got problems. So let me
just start by reminding the audience that holidays,

742
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:16.679
memorials, and monuments are more important
than the than ever for us as

743
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:24.119
Americans, because we really face the
infiltration of cultural Marxism and the abysmal state

744
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:29.880
of American history, education and our
failing public school system. You know,

745
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.119
only a generation or two ago,
it was understood that we in the presence

746
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.960
stood on the shoulders of great people
who came before us. That was understood

747
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:44.000
by everybody. In addition to appreciating
and learning from heroic figures, it was

748
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:50.440
also understood that it's important to connect
the present with the virtues of the past.

749
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.079
So can you tell me where we
want to go? I can go.

750
01:00:55.239 --> 01:01:01.000
Well, you know, every in
every occasion in history, if you

751
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:05.760
look back before the founding of the
United States of America, where there have

752
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:15.440
been some pretty good foundational societies,
when they have been attacked, one of

753
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.480
the first thing the attackers who want
to take down that society do is tear

754
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:25.800
down statues, is try to eliminate
or erase anything that was prominent or good

755
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:31.840
about that society's or that culture's past. That's the first thing they always do.

756
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:38.480
That's where they attack. They attack. They those people's shoulders who were

757
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.679
standing on They try and knock them
down, to knock us down. So

758
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:51.920
we have no vision and no pathway
forward. And that's what's happening right now

759
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:55.280
in the United States of America in
my opinions, good, very well said,

760
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:59.320
very well said. But and who
are these people that are doing this.

761
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:05.840
They are a combination of really,
for lack of a better description,

762
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:15.280
communist oriented people. We have the
you know, the influx of radical Islamis.

763
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.880
We've actually been living with that influence
really since the Obama years, where

764
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.639
we have radical Islamis actually in our
government, believe it or not, and

765
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:27.880
we can see it in some of
the representation of you know, we have

766
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:35.079
what the the Gang of Four.
Well, yes, they hate America.

767
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:40.920
They are here, they are serving
in Congress and they absolutely hate America.

768
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.039
Now, why aren't they voted out
of office? Because they have these safe

769
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:51.440
districts with a lot of Muslims,
uh, you know, in those districts

770
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:57.000
they brought out all these refugees from
places like Somalia and and any number of

771
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:04.840
Islamic dominated country overseas ease where this
country opened up its arms and you know,

772
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.360
gave these people an opportunity. It
wasn't supposed to give people an opportunity

773
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:13.239
to tear down the place that was
giving them sanctuary, but that's exactly what

774
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.679
has happened. Well, it's a
sad state of affairs, but you know,

775
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:22.280
Americans are awakening to the fact that
are you know, freedom's rights,

776
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:30.639
opportunities that we have taken for granted
for generations are now being brazenly stripped away

777
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:37.920
from us in just the last few
years. And those blessings, if you

778
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:43.679
will, are being stripped very primarily
by the federal governments and its administrative states.

779
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:47.960
So that's why this President's Day twenty
twenty four maybe one of our most

780
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:54.039
significant holidays to go back and revisit, you know, both Washington and Lincoln,

781
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.960
because they can tell us, they
can speak to us from the great

782
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.960
so to speak. Yeah, you
right, that these great American presidents,

783
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.679
George Washington, the founder of this
country, the father of this country.

784
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.360
And Abraham Lincoln, the man who
saved the Union. You're write, these

785
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:17.840
great presidents were willing to give their
lives to establish a new nation. We're

786
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:23.920
called to do no less to save
the country now, So I mean that

787
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:30.280
is impactful. Is if you're willing
to give up your life for your fellow

788
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.760
man, is there anything greater than
that? And George Washington and Abraham Lincoln,

789
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:40.280
ultimately, Lincoln did give up his
life for this country. So give

790
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:45.199
me just a Scott Powell, if
it's possible, a Scott Powell thumbnail portrait

791
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.320
of both of these two great presidents. Yep, let's do that. So.

792
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:53.519
Washington was the key founder of the
United States. He was the commander

793
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:58.280
in chief of the Continental Army,
which did the impossible that was defeat Great

794
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:02.039
Britain, the greatest military power in
the world at that time. And later

795
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:10.079
Washington presided over the Constitutional Convention which
drafted this remarkable document, the Constitution,

796
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:14.760
and then it was unanimously elected as
the first President of the United States in

797
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:20.199
seventeen eighty nine. Less than a
century after Washington's time, Lincoln became the

798
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:27.519
sixteenth president, and he was also
a wartime commander in chief who presided over

799
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.039
the start and the end of the
Civil War, and so doing he set

800
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:36.920
the stage for national reunification, ending
the scourge of slavery, and saving the

801
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.760
United States from division. Remember,
the war started over secession of the Southern

802
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.000
States. It was not over slavery. It was they seceded. They said,

803
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.519
you know, we haven't been getting
a fair deal economically. We've been

804
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:54.559
giving you know, where this you
know, agricultural juggernaut in America. We're

805
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.559
producing all the you know, not
just the food, but the cotton,

806
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.719
and you sell it, you collect
the tariffs on it, and we're getting

807
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:08.400
the North rich and we're not participating. So their gripes against the North were

808
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:13.400
really long standing, and they decided
finally to seced and they thought it was

809
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:18.079
their right to do so based on
their understanding of the debate of the Constitutional

810
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:24.679
Convention that it was a voluntary it
was voluntary that the states banded together to

811
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.800
form the United States. These of
course, there were just thirteen colonies in

812
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.199
the very beginning, and there was
even debate about, well, what if

813
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:36.679
one of them wants to leave?
And the agreement was that they could leave.

814
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:43.239
So the Southern States did not think
that they were doing anything crazy in

815
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.800
just picking up their marbles and saying, you know, we're going to form

816
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.039
our own government. And you know
what their government was formed around. It

817
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:57.280
was an identical constitution to the Constitution
of the United States, with some small

818
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:02.119
changes, but most everything was the
three branches of government, same terms of

819
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:09.840
office and so forth. So anyway, so what Lincoln did, he saved

820
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:14.119
the republic that you know, Washington
made possible. And these were these were

821
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:19.760
amazing men, you know, whose
wisdom and judgment was really profound. And

822
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:25.039
we have to acknowledge that they were
both flawed men. You know, they

823
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:30.360
made mistakes, but they had these
remarkable qualities that were so formidable that they

824
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:36.119
contributed to the essence of what we
call American exceptionalism. And you know what

825
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:42.159
was exceptional about him. Both these
presidents readily admitted that it was not their

826
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:46.639
own abilities that made the difference,
but rather their faith, trust, and

827
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:53.239
reliance on God that gave them their
strength and opened the way for ultimate success.

828
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.960
I mean, well, when you
say, when you say they were

829
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.400
both flawed men, all you had
to do their things, all you have

830
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:04.159
to say is that they're men,
they're human beings. We're all flawed men

831
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:09.400
and women Scott, There's no question
about that. We can't help that.

832
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:14.760
And that's that's why we need saving, That's why we need Jesus, and

833
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:19.079
that's why we need God. Because
we are all flawed people as human beings.

834
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:24.199
It's part of our nature to be
flawed. So it always, it

835
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:28.960
always strikes me when someone is referring
to somebody said, well, although he

836
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.560
was a flawed man, he blah
blah, and it's like, no,

837
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.199
he was a man. That's all
I have to say, because we already

838
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:42.720
know the rest from living ourselves and
living our lives and seeing our own flaws

839
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:49.319
if we're have the vision to do
that. But so George Washington just wanted

840
01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:56.800
I mean, he was a he
was a He was an officer in the

841
01:08:56.840 --> 01:09:00.600
British Army before the revolution, I
mean law before the Revolution. He was

842
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:11.199
a member of the British Crowns Army. And Abraham Lincoln, who wound up

843
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:15.359
being one of the great thinkers of
all time, didn't have really any formal

844
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:20.600
education outside of you know what,
sixth seventh grade. Yeah, he spent

845
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:25.119
he spent a small I think he
spent one year in what was then a

846
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:30.840
one room schoolhouse. But otherwise he
was truly a homeschooled, you know,

847
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.960
young man. And there are stories
about him. He's such an amazing guy.

848
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:40.800
There are stories about him that he
wanted to read every book he could

849
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.439
get his hands on. So he
used to borrow books from everybody in the

850
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.279
town that he lived in. He
borrowed them all and read them all.

851
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:51.399
He was a prolific reader, he
was. But what you know, the

852
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:55.520
centerpiece of this article that I wrote, and I was published in a couple

853
01:09:55.560 --> 01:10:02.159
of places today, was that both
Washing and Lincoln were really pressient in seeing

854
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:09.399
that America's greatest threat to national survival
would not come from military invasion from a

855
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:14.199
foreign power, but rather it would
come from within. And that's what we're

856
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:18.600
seeing today. So what did Washington
see, Well, he gave this great

857
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:24.720
gift to America in his farewell address, which he referred to as a warning

858
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:29.520
from a departing friend. Those were
his words, and it was so profound

859
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:34.800
and really in demand that it was
reprinted more than the Declaration of Independence.

860
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:39.159
Can you believe that? But it's
true, and it was prophetic in nature.

861
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:44.800
It warned against three internal threats to
liberty in the American republic, and

862
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:49.119
they're more relevant now than ever before. And the first one was the failure

863
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:58.079
of citizens to be well informed.
Number two was internal division because of party

864
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.479
factions and hyper partisans in the ship. And the third thing that would bring

865
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:08.680
us down was the decline of religious
obligation and national morality. And we can

866
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:14.880
see all three of those at work
in bringing us down now. Lincoln similarly

867
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.880
prompted Americans to think and be villaging
about internal threats to freedom, and he

868
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:21.239
posted it in the Lyceum address.
He posed a question, and that was,

869
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:26.640
quote, at what point, then
is the approach of danger to be

870
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.960
expected? And he answered his own
question by staying quote, if it ever

871
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.720
reaches us, it must spring up
amongst us. It cannot come from abroad.

872
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:39.399
As a nation of freemen, we
must live through all time or die

873
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:45.279
by suicide. After his reelection for
a second term shortly before his assassination,

874
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:53.000
Lincoln also observed that quote corporations have
been enthroned, and an era of corruption

875
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:57.439
in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor

876
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.680
to prolong its reign by working upon
the prejudice of the people. And so

877
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:06.119
all wealth is aggregated in a few
hands and the republic is destroyed. Wow,

878
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:13.760
now we aren't we aren't quite there
yet. Well, but you look

879
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:17.239
at the one percent and the people
that have the money and the power and

880
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:20.800
the land in this country. And
this is not a rail against them,

881
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:26.800
but it is exactly a mirror of
what he was talking about in this particular

882
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:30.920
address, Scott in in that and
and that's all the globalist one. They

883
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:35.520
want an accumulation of all the power
in a very few hands, and the

884
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:42.399
rest of us to kind of fend
for ourselves as their servants are serfs if

885
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.159
they allow us to even live.
Uh, that's right now. They they're

886
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:53.239
they're they really buy into population reduction, yep. And and so it's it's

887
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:57.399
less less, less non elites to
have to take care of. That's why

888
01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:00.680
they want to reduce the population and
that and that's why we have we have

889
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:05.800
to really see things in context to
this agenda, because this agenda has actually

890
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:14.119
swept through our elites. And so
for instance, the Green New Deal and

891
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:20.359
the reliance on wind and solar power
and the electric vehicle revolution are all part

892
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:27.640
of this agenda. Sure that is
not rational, it's not based on the

893
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:32.079
very things that can sustain America.
Sadly, sadly, we're out of time

894
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:36.279
again. I want to remind you. Scott Powell, a Senior Fellow at

895
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:42.840
the Discovery Institute, has written this
wonderful book where he talks about American traditions

896
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.199
and what we need to get back
to in this country if we want to

897
01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:51.600
have a country rediscovering America. I
highly recommend it, and Scott, thank

898
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:56.760
you again for your time tonight.
Absolutely, Gary, Jeff, let's do

899
01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:00.760
it again. We will definitely do
it again soon. Now a break and

900
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.079
then back on the nightcap. We're
not done yet. Seven hundred WLW.

901
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:08.479
When do you like to listen to
Scott's Loan? I listen when I'm cooking

902
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:12.159
cabbage. That's interesting. I listened
to his podcast when my wife wants to

903
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.960
make love. I bet she likes
it. I listen when I'm supposed to

904
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.279
be on a conference call. That'll
show the boss. I like to listen

905
01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:20.920
to his show while I'm lanscaping.
Do you really I listen while I perform

906
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:26.399
colonoscopies. Sope. I guess anytime
is the right time for Sloaney. That's

907
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.600
what we've been saying, Scott Sloan
tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW,

908
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:35.680
and check out his podcast on the
free iHeartRadio ad. Are you a

909
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:41.199
business owner, CEO or responsible for
marketing? If you are, I heard

910
01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:45.000
media can help you reach your goals. And to our last hour of this

911
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:50.600
nightcap on President's Day twenty twenty four, whatever that means, Gary Jeff Walker,

912
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:58.680
proudly bringing you, proudly hailing my
friend Karen Katalene KK is back.

913
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.399
She's spouting off a and she's doing
it with me, and I just couldn't

914
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:09.600
be happier about that. Karen,
good evening, good evening. How are

915
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:14.800
you good? First and foremost a
little, a little housekeeping, a little

916
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.840
past business. As of course,
Karen and I had our bet on the

917
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:24.520
Super Bowl. She was she was
choosing the team that lost, and I

918
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.800
was choosing the team that won,
and we had we had a little bet.

919
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:34.319
Yes, So I just wanted to
say to tell you that I am

920
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:40.960
so happy I don't have to send
you a pooper scooper, a tent and

921
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.039
rice a rony, the San Francisco
treat that you don't need to give me

922
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:48.439
the cheap tailor wine or the swift
premium bacon. We're I'll consider it.

923
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:54.039
I'll consider it done and done.
I won't consider it you welched on your

924
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:59.279
bet or it's a participation trophy.
I understand that it was an agreement.

925
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.680
We made a gentle person's agreement,
but I am letting you out of that

926
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:05.359
commitment right here and now on the
air. I just want to let you

927
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:11.199
know, well, that's very kind
of you. I just hope that I'm

928
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.279
not going to hear about it.
You know, five years later, Hey,

929
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.319
no, no, no, no, what about that Taylor Swift bacon

930
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:25.279
and Karen. You will never hear. You will never hear about the bacon

931
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:30.720
or the wine, but you will
hear over and over again that you lost

932
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:35.800
the bet. So does that mean
if I buy you the bacon and the

933
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:40.279
wine you won't make me so no, no, no, no, no

934
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:42.880
no no no no no no,
no, no, no. That has

935
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.680
nothing to do with it. I
no, I, and I will not

936
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:50.199
continually pummel you with this fact that
you were wrong and I was right,

937
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:56.720
even though it's kind of it's kind
of enticing to do that, but I

938
01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:00.960
will not do that to a friend. I wanted to start I wanted to

939
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:08.960
start off, and it's kind of
off topic for President's Day. But we

940
01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:12.680
know who the president actually ought to
be, and we know that now from

941
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:16.600
study after study that's been done in
the twenty twenty election, that the that

942
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:24.119
the demented puppet should have never taken
office and should not be not should should

943
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:30.319
not be further ruining America for the
globalist deletes. But I'm going to take

944
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:34.039
Somebody sent me this opinion piece and
I thought it was very interesting, very

945
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:43.279
poignant and very true from the Telegraph, which of course is the British rag

946
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.199
of record, from Yahoo News,
and it's opinion piece by a lady named

947
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.199
Louise Perry. I've never read her
before this. Somebody sent this to me.

948
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:57.199
Ireland has descended into a narco tyranny, and we're following suit. Although

949
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.720
if you live in a monarchy,
aren't you actually being in a tyranny anyway?

950
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:05.239
But the anarco tyranny a system of
government that fails to protected citizens from

951
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:13.680
violence while simultaneously persecuting conduct that would
typically be regarded as innocent. The experience

952
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:16.279
of living under such a system may
be familiar to you, even if the

953
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:24.319
term itself is not. And she
sends the example of a career criminal like

954
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:29.960
someone named Jordan McSweeney free to walk
the streets of London murdering women mere days

955
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:35.800
after being released from prison on license, even while offensive limericks, online poetry

956
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:43.079
and dogs trained to perform comical salutes
are treated with the utmost seriousness by the

957
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:48.319
criminal justice system. And we've been
seeing that in this country for the last

958
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:54.399
four years when it comes to Donald
Trump January sixth, protesters people that object

959
01:18:54.960 --> 01:19:00.920
to tyrannical vaccine mandates that you know, people be put in jail or persecuted

960
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:09.600
simply for things that they determine.
They being the deep state, those who

961
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:16.880
were involved in charge of the establishment. Sadly for you know, raising questions

962
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:23.199
for objecting to certain policies and the
like. That's a criminal offense. And

963
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:28.359
yet we see the revolving door that
it's at work in major cities where there

964
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:33.159
are Soros funded district attorneys and judges
who are letting the real criminals out on

965
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:36.239
the street. We have a narco
tyranny in America right now, do we

966
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:43.079
not? Yes? Indeed, and
you know where I first heard that term.

967
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:48.760
I had never heard it before until
I interviewed one of my faith guests

968
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:54.319
by the name of John Zamirak,
who I know that you have had on

969
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:59.399
Yes, and that was he started
using that term. The way he described

970
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:03.159
it, which new to me,
is that there are two justice systems.

971
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:10.359
There are anarchy for us, meaning
we get to do whatever we want,

972
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:16.560
and tyranny for you. And that
is well, I just call it communism,

973
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:24.079
but and narco tyranny. I am
ambivalent about saying I'm glad, but

974
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:28.640
I am glad people are calling that
and using that term, and that is

975
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:33.479
what it is. And I would
also add that it is done as a

976
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:43.039
cynical political strategy and the message is
supposed to be received by us. All

977
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:50.720
if you speak about question anything that
seems wrong, different offends your sensibilities.

978
01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:55.439
See, they can be offended,
they can have microaggressions. We can't be

979
01:20:55.479 --> 01:21:00.000
offended about anything. We can't be
offended about the destruction of our country,

980
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:08.199
the instruction of our constitution, any
of that. So if you say anything

981
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:13.000
and you're on the wrong side of
their political agenda, it's tyranny for you,

982
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:16.560
and they don't care. This is
a digression. But did you see

983
01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:23.760
when Chuck Schumer, I hate even
using his name, Chuck Schumer was heard

984
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:28.439
to say, oh, there is
absolutely nothing wrong with Joe Biden. All

985
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:32.560
of this talk of him having poor
memory and being on the way to the

986
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:43.199
nursing home and dementia Alzheimer's. That
is a republican conspiracy theory. And that's

987
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:46.760
all. Part of it is that
you can say the dumbest, most obvious

988
01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:55.199
lies and get away with it because
you're on the anarcho part. Anybody who

989
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:59.880
questions all the things you mentioned,
maybe they just prefer to think for themselves.

990
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:02.760
They're on the tyranny side. That's
how you shut down liberty, and

991
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:09.119
they're doing a very unfortunately great job
at it. Well. She goes on

992
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.840
and in Ireland she writes the current
government there, the broad Car government or

993
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:19.359
whatever currently facts fast tracking such a
law, the Criminal Justice Incitement to Violence

994
01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:24.800
or Hatred and Hate Offenses Bill,
which would criminalize any person who prepares or

995
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.680
possesses material that is likely to incite
violence or hatred against a person who or

996
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.880
a group of persons on account of
their protected characteristics. Here we are again

997
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:39.880
the identity identity politicish and so also
inciting it. In other words, if

998
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.039
somebody else loses their cookies over something, it's your fault, right exactly exactly,

999
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:51.520
and it talks about microaggressions and misgendering
sometimes classified as a form of violence,

1000
01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:57.399
but hatred, She writes, how's
that a word? Now, that's

1001
01:22:57.439 --> 01:23:02.039
a word that eventual prosecutor could really
make hay with, particularly given the usefulness

1002
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:06.760
of that additional word. Likely with
the new law in place, the authorities

1003
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:12.880
could easily decree that all sorts of
political inconvenient speech is likely to incite hatred

1004
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:17.600
against particular groups. But they've been
doing that to Donald Trump for I don't

1005
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:26.039
know six years. I don't know
when a president smears and frames and about

1006
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:31.560
more than half of the population for
having voted for a candidate that wasn't him,

1007
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:41.119
for supporting his prime and only true
political punts, and calls them domestic

1008
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:45.800
terrorists. And the most dangerous thing
is that inciting hatred at all? I'm

1009
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:50.960
just wondering. And anyway, one
more piece from this commentary piece, if

1010
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:58.119
you'll allow me the levity here,
Karen, it's your show. You make

1011
01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:04.000
an excellent point. Ten days ago, three young children were stabbed outside of

1012
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:09.640
school in Dublin by a man,
which online rumors suggested was originally from Algeria.

1013
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:14.199
The ensuing riot was met with an
appropriately heavy response from the police,

1014
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.960
and across the following Connor McGregor,
the MMA fighter, emerged as the voice

1015
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:23.840
of a particularly angry faction in Ireland, angry at the very dramatic recent rise

1016
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:29.159
in immigration, and angry at the
imparent apparent inconsistency of a police force willing

1017
01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:33.399
to come down hard on some violent
crime but not all he said. He

1018
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:39.880
said, I don't condone the riots. I do understand the frustrations though,

1019
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:43.399
and I do understand a move must
be made to ensure the change we need

1020
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:47.279
is ushered in. There will be
change in Ireland, mark my words.

1021
01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:57.439
McGregor was reportedly being investigated by Irish
police under suspicion of inciting hate for making

1022
01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:02.199
that statement. Right, you know, we've got all of this, all

1023
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:06.800
of this issue with an illegal invasion
that's been allowed, been encouraged to go

1024
01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:12.600
on on a southern border for the
last three and a half years, and

1025
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:18.439
we're seeing the fruits of that in
our city streets, in our justice system,

1026
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:24.239
in our schools, in our hospitals. But if you speak up,

1027
01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:30.920
you obviously are not compassionate towards your
feeling human being. No person allowed to

1028
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.920
have a problem with it. No, no, no human being can be

1029
01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:42.880
illegal. Well you know what under
our actual, our own laws that aren't

1030
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:48.560
being enforced, yes, they are
classified as illegal entrance into the country.

1031
01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:57.239
You know the mistake that is going
to be made by many people, not

1032
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:01.800
you, of course, but many
many people in debating the issue instead of

1033
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:09.359
pointing out the tactic, because the
people that are behind this kind of tactic,

1034
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:15.520
they don't even believe the propaganda they're
pushing. There are people I call

1035
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:23.720
bandwagoneers. Okay, they'll push anything
their betters tell them to push, but

1036
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:30.079
they didn't originate this. All these
strategies, including hinds fifty seven, variety

1037
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:34.680
of genders and mastectomies for twelve year
olds, and things that are designed to

1038
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:42.359
inflame and insight people of faith and
anyone else faith. They're known who has

1039
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:47.600
any common sense or boundaries between governments
and the citizen, between men and women,

1040
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:54.039
boundaries between oh I don't know,
countries and borders, boundaries. They're

1041
01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:58.000
erasing all boundaries, and if you
have any problem with it, you're the

1042
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:01.960
bad guy. If we do not
haul out that tactic, then we're missing

1043
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.960
the boat. Because, as I
say, even the people who came up

1044
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.159
with a lot of this insanity.
They don't believe it. They are,

1045
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:17.159
for the most part, ideological communists. And this is how you do it.

1046
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:23.640
You inflame everybody, have everybody at
each other's throats until people throw out

1047
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.199
their hands and just say, I
can't send it anymore. I'm hiding under

1048
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:32.640
my bed. That's what they want
everybody to do. Well, I don't

1049
01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:42.279
know how you debate something that is
so plainly ridiculous, ridiculous like the Heinz

1050
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.159
fifty seven genders thing you talk about, and you know, mutilating ten and

1051
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:50.680
twelve year old children for the sake
of this division that they're trying to inflame

1052
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:57.159
and cause. But you know what, and as a person of faith who

1053
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:02.079
believes that this is an immortal sin
against God and against the grain of what

1054
01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:10.079
I believe, forget about that for
a second. People who actually believe in

1055
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:16.560
science and biology should be just as
upset about this, you know, this

1056
01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:21.600
gender fluidity and the mutilation of kids, and the murder of unborn babies,

1057
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:28.560
because the science is clear. You
know that this fetus at two three months

1058
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.600
old with a heartbeat is a human
being. It's not a collection of cells.

1059
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:40.159
You were born biologically as a boy
or a girl, male or female.

1060
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.640
This is part of my point is
that I have believed for a long

1061
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:51.640
time that going after these things and
pushing them most outlandish and truly offensive things,

1062
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:57.079
which by the way, I'm reading
that even not even independence who can't

1063
01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:01.159
stand either party, and they have
a point while taken, they are not

1064
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:08.920
buying into this gender ideology. They
think it's patently ridiculous. And I have

1065
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:15.479
always believed and I still do believe, that they take the ideas and the

1066
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:19.399
ideology of people of faith for the
most part Christians, but not all,

1067
01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:26.600
but for the most part Christians who
hold the largest group of people who are

1068
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:31.319
beholden to God instead of government,
and they do that in order to marginalize

1069
01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:36.880
them and call them hateful. They
are hating on the very people that they're

1070
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:43.680
calling hateful. That is a brilliant
and extremely cynical tactic. I think that's

1071
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:46.840
what gay marriage was about, too. I don't think gay people themselves were

1072
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:53.039
pushing as hard for it as radical
leftists were. Those are the people who

1073
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:57.319
wanted to push it because it's part
of the agenda, is straight out of

1074
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:02.840
Salolunsky's rules. For that's how you
do it absolutely so. It has to

1075
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:06.680
be. It has to be opposed
on every level. And you know how

1076
01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:14.760
we know that these things are wives
they're pushing because they selectively persecute anybody who

1077
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:18.319
speaks up and stands up and says, you know what, No, nope

1078
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:24.840
and not not ever. If you
say no to their ideology, they're going

1079
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:29.159
to come after you and the price
gets higher and higher and higher for people.

1080
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:32.079
It's the only way to do it. Let's put that theory to a

1081
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:36.920
test. Karen. No, Nope, not ever, Nope, nope,

1082
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:45.640
not ever. Not me. I
disagree because you're wrong and you're and you

1083
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:49.079
may be evil, but more than
anything, you're just wrong, and I

1084
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:55.119
will you want to protect children?
You know not? It's important, Yes,

1085
01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:59.960
it is. It's very important,
Yes, Karen Katileen. It's very

1086
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.079
very important that I get a chance
to talk to you on almost a weekly

1087
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:06.279
basis. And thank you for making
that happen again this week. I appreciate

1088
01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:14.119
it. And again the bet is
settled. We're done. My chiefs won.

1089
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:20.960
Thank you, my chiefs one,
my chief take care of KK Bob

1090
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:27.479
all right, Karen Catalen on the
Nightcap on seven under w LW will wrap

1091
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:32.159
it up with Dave Hatter coming up, Rocky Boyman year, I played in

1092
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:35.560
the NFL, and that's pretty cool. I'm also a published author and that's

1093
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:40.279
pretty cool. I'll also once share
an elevator with a Dalai Lama and that's

1094
01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:43.840
also pretty cool. But none of
that compares to hearing the podcast of the

1095
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:48.600
Eddie and Rocky Show on the iHeartRadio
app. Now that's very cool. In

1096
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:54.119
this week's Marketers Report, then well, you know what, he's not a

1097
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:58.560
president of anything, although he is
still the mayor of Fort Wright because no

1098
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:03.640
one else will take the position.
So we do have an actual executive on

1099
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:10.239
the show tonight to celebrate President's Day
and the world of Internet things, and

1100
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:13.199
that would be our tech guy,
Dave Hatter, once again joining us.

1101
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:15.439
And I say our because I like
to take ownership with somebody who's such a

1102
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:20.159
great guest when he's really all over
everywhere all the time, but particularly on

1103
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:23.439
the night Cap, and it's great
to have him back. Dave Hatter,

1104
01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:31.159
congratulations to being a chief executive officer
on President's Day. Well, thanks,

1105
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.199
I think Garry, Jeff, it's
always good to be here. I appreciate

1106
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:40.399
you having me on and appreciate doubts
to try to raise awareness about our increasingly

1107
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:46.039
insane digital world. China's vult typhoon
spies broke into emergency network of large US

1108
01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:49.359
city, and they are targeting more
and more. You and I have talked

1109
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:53.880
about this a couple of times,
more than a couple of times, about

1110
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:59.720
the real danger may not be from
some kind of kinetic attack from foreign powers,

1111
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:04.720
instead from a cyber attack that disrupts
our water, our power, our

1112
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:10.640
communications. And they are making great
inroads and they are doing recon all the

1113
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:16.279
time. Tell me the latest on
China's volt typhoon spy network. Yeah,

1114
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.840
Gary, Jeff, I think everything
you said is spawn on. You and

1115
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:23.199
I have discussed this many times.
You know, the critical infrastructure. So

1116
01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:26.840
when you hear nerds like me,
you say critical infrastructure, or when you

1117
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:32.479
hear organizations like SISSA, the Cybersecurity
Infrastructure Security Agency or the FBI or others

1118
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:36.199
warned about critical infrastructure, this is
the sort of thing they're talking about.

1119
01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:40.760
And I want to come back to
this specific story in a second. So

1120
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.159
here's the headline from the Wall Street
Journal yesterday. FBI director says China cyber

1121
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:50.079
attacks on US infrastructure now at unprecedented
scale. So here's a quote at a

1122
01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:55.239
scale greater than we've ever seen.
This is from Director Ray and the story

1123
01:33:55.279 --> 01:34:00.439
refers to this volt tyson and hacking
group we're talking about. So you know,

1124
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:02.840
this is There's been a lot of
talk about this for a long time,

1125
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:08.520
but the urgency and the amount oppressed
this is getting has gone way up

1126
01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:11.680
in the past four to five months. And you know, I'm glad to

1127
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:14.960
see that it's finally starting to get
the attention that I think it deserved for

1128
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.920
a long time, because everything you
said was right, you know, whether

1129
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:23.760
it's the electrical grid, whether it's
water plants, whether it's knocking out critical

1130
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:27.800
transportation infrastructure. I read it one
time. I mean, I don't know

1131
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.359
that I'm one hundred percent accurate on
this. I'm going to a memory because

1132
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:33.920
there's like, on average about three
days where supplies and the supply chain thanks

1133
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.680
to just in time, right,
this idea that we don't want to have

1134
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:40.920
a bunch of inventory, We don't
want to carry these inventory costs. We

1135
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.720
want to get stuff right when we
need it, which I fully understand from

1136
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:46.640
like a lean perspective, right,
But we also know that a lot of

1137
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:50.760
manufacturing has gone offshore. We know
that during the pandemic it was hard to

1138
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:56.319
get pharmaceuticals and so forth, so
you know you already have supply chain issues.

1139
01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:58.960
We've seen that in the past.
Imagine if you could knock out like

1140
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:01.279
all of the rail system, or
if you could launch of some sort of

1141
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:05.439
attack on newer trucks that would knock
them out. So, whether again it's

1142
01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:13.000
electrical or water or whatever, there's
all these relatively fragile systems out there because

1143
01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.680
most of this stuff was built when
this kind of security wasn't a concern,

1144
01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.880
and then in a desire to increase
operational efficiency, which I get, and

1145
01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:26.239
to increase productivity, we've tried to
automate all this stuff and integrate all these

1146
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:30.600
different systems, which has created a
lot of exposure. And again I like

1147
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.600
to think of it as fragile because
so much of this stuff is legacy and

1148
01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:39.399
it's been around for decades, long
before any of these kinds of concerns were

1149
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:42.840
a thing. So and when people
say, well, how bad could it

1150
01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.520
get, don't take my work.
Go see for yourself. See what various

1151
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:53.359
government agencies and well well known world
renowned cybersecurity experts have warned about this sort

1152
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:57.600
of stuff and then just ask yourself
again, if you could knock out the

1153
01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:00.720
power grid, let's see, in
a struct sent like attack, I would

1154
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:05.000
remind folks ducks met was a very
very advanced computer virus that was delivered to

1155
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:13.680
iranium. I'm sorry your iranium.
Uranium centrifuges were refining the uranium to make

1156
01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:17.520
nuclear bombs, and these machines were
telling the operators that they were operating with

1157
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:23.119
intolerance and at the same time blowing
themselves to pieces because you know, the

1158
01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:27.159
software was making them operate in the
way they shouldn't, so they destroyed themselves.

1159
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:30.399
So this is a real thing,
and again I'm glad it's getting the

1160
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:33.720
kind of the attention that I think
it deserves, because we need to be

1161
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:40.560
pressuring infrastructure organizations, we need to
be pressuring government agencies, we need to

1162
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:45.640
be pressuring our federal elected officials and
to make sure that they're doing what it

1163
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:49.159
takes to make sure these systems are
secure by design and secure by default.

1164
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:53.760
Well, I mean the volt type
vult type one. Yes, go ahead,

1165
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:57.640
no, please, you're a roll
to get back to that, right.

1166
01:36:57.800 --> 01:37:02.119
This is a recent and that ties
directly into what we're talking about here.

1167
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:08.239
While I think the major threat is
definitely the Chinese Communist Party, Director

1168
01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:13.199
Ray has said something to the effect
that they believe that the Chinese Communist Party

1169
01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:15.359
and their military have fifty times the
hackers we do, or something to that

1170
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.720
effect. Again, I'm going from
memory, so I may be off to

1171
01:37:17.840 --> 01:37:21.960
the hair, but it's a substantial
army of people who are doing nothing but

1172
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:28.079
a attempting to infiltrate our critical infrastructure, b steal our money, and see

1173
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.479
steal our trade secrets. So I
mean, you've got three major problems there,

1174
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:34.199
but especially the critical infrastructure. Then
you also have Russia, You've got

1175
01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:38.840
North Korea, You've got Iran doing
these kind of things. But here's a

1176
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:42.199
quote about bold typhoons. So when
you hear these names like bold typhoons,

1177
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:46.640
the government likes to give these attackers, these hacking groups sometimes known as advanced

1178
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.720
persistent threats apt that they could give
them names so they can track them and

1179
01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:54.720
so that they can say, okay, well this was attributed to this group.

1180
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:57.720
And I'd also like to point out, if you're any good at this,

1181
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:00.000
right, you're going to try to
make it look like someone else didn't

1182
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:01.119
The Chinese are going to try to
make it look like the Russians did it

1183
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.760
or vice versa. That's that's its
own set of problems. But here's a

1184
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:11.079
direct quote from the CEO of a
very well known cybersecurity company commenting on this

1185
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:15.079
old typhoon thing. Quote. The
concern is the targets they pick across telecommunications

1186
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:19.439
and electric power generation and distribution.
These are very strategic targets. It's not

1187
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:27.880
spray and prey unquote. They're definitely
they're definitively targeting infrastructure systems that can cause

1188
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.960
chaos should they be shut down.
You know, here's another quote. It's

1189
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:35.119
specifically looking at those sites that would
be a strategic value to an adversary trying

1190
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:40.880
to hurt our cripple US infrastructure.
So I would encourage all of your listeners

1191
01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:44.439
go out, learn about these things, and then start to turn it because

1192
01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:45.399
all you got to do is the
search. You know, again, Wall

1193
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:49.239
Street Journal just ran this big thing
with Director Ray yesterday. Just do a

1194
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:54.479
quick search, start on critical infrastructure. You're going to find all kinds of

1195
01:38:54.479 --> 01:38:58.199
information, and we really need to
turn up the pressure to start to address

1196
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:01.079
these things before something goes terribly well, well, you know, you look

1197
01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:06.319
at say the hurricane that hit Puerto
Rico, whose infrastructure was already not in

1198
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:12.640
a great state, but you saw
the misery and the death that was caused

1199
01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:16.640
by people not having electric power for
days on end. You talk about the

1200
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:23.600
three day supply chain. Look at
Jackson, Mississippi, where the water system

1201
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:29.600
was completely compromised and polluted. If
a cyber criminal, vault, typhoon,

1202
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:35.119
or anyone else could do the same
thing that a natural disaster like a hurricane

1203
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:41.760
or some other kind of disaster does
to a water supply or a power grid,

1204
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.520
and you see that in very very
short amount of time, people who

1205
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:51.239
never think about these kind of things, Dave are scrambling to survive. You

1206
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:56.279
know, And Gary, Jeff,
I know that sounds hyperbolic, but I

1207
01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:58.840
agree with you one hundred percent.
I mean, think about it for a

1208
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:02.800
second. Imagine if, without ever
firing a shot, zero canetic action whatsoever,

1209
01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:08.159
an adversary, doesn't matter who it
is, could turn off the power

1210
01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:12.279
and knock out the telecommunications that work
all at once, because you know they've

1211
01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:15.439
got backup generators and that sort of
thing. But let's say that you could

1212
01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:18.159
knock out the power, how does
your water get pumped. I mean,

1213
01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:23.399
sometimes it's gravity, but there are
electrical pumps that push that water. At

1214
01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:26.359
some point, you're going to run
out of water if the power is off

1215
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:29.279
for an extended period of time.
If you knock out you know, the

1216
01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.039
telecommunications grid too, you can't make
any phone calls. You don't know what's

1217
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:36.319
going on, you have no information, you have no electricity, and you

1218
01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:40.079
know to your point, obviously,
in a very hot summer, that's the

1219
01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.960
problem. But imagine, I mean
it got pretty cold over the weekend.

1220
01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:45.319
How many people do you think would
die if they were able to knock out

1221
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:50.920
our power grid like today between now
and one spring hits in the eastern you

1222
01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:54.319
know, in northern parts of the
United States, because you wouldn't have any

1223
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:58.479
heat. In many cases, it
takes power to move the gas and the

1224
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:02.000
gas lines, right, you know, I think people weigh underestimate, unfortunately,

1225
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.039
how fortunate we are to live in
a country where you know, when

1226
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:08.479
you flip the switch, you expect
the power to come on. When you

1227
01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:11.239
turn a faucet, you expect the
water to come out, and thankfully,

1228
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:15.560
throughout my entire lifetime that's always been
the case. Yeah, But should that

1229
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:19.960
stop because of an advanced fiber attack, We're going to have major, major

1230
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:24.119
malfunctions. And again, I know
this sounds crazy, Garrett Jeff, but

1231
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:28.199
I just encourage people go see for
yourself, don't take my word for it.

1232
01:41:28.840 --> 01:41:31.319
All the information is out there and
some folks have been worrying about this.

1233
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:34.840
Even if it's not a fiber attack, it could be any a strong

1234
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:40.039
solar flare or an EMP attack that
knocks this stuff out right. It doesn't

1235
01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:45.479
necessarily have to be some sort of
cybersecurity computer nerd thing. There's other ways

1236
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:49.239
that could cause this similar type of
destruction and chaos, unfortunately, and we

1237
01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:56.000
need to harden our systems against it. Like yesterday, Yeah, really I

1238
01:41:56.039 --> 01:42:00.520
wanted to tackle with Dave Patter this
story that you said me and it's it's

1239
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:04.199
again something we have harped on many
times in the past day. But it's

1240
01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:09.640
time to do it again and remind
people who are those sharper image people they

1241
01:42:09.720 --> 01:42:13.560
just got to have the newest things
and these aren't even new things anymore.

1242
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:21.319
Uh. The uh, the fact
that you're the fact that your little webcam

1243
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:27.119
that you're using could allow hackers who
hack into it since it is connected to

1244
01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.840
the net, to spy on you
all the time, And yeah, you

1245
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:33.800
can't. You can't just put a
piece of tape over it and solve the

1246
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:40.600
problem either. This is something that
I just I wish more people would understand.

1247
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:44.960
And maybe they do and they just
don't care, and maybe they're maybe

1248
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.439
they're exhibitionists and they you know,
their life's of an open book. And

1249
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:53.000
and you know what I'm not.
I'm not doing anything I'm hiding from anybody,

1250
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:57.279
necessarily inside my own home, but
I am not inviting hackers to take

1251
01:42:57.279 --> 01:43:01.960
a look at my daily life with
my wife every single day because I've got

1252
01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:08.079
a stupid webcam up. Well,
Gary, Jeff, first off, you

1253
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:13.319
know, people definitely need to consider
why privacy is important. And I love

1254
01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.479
this quote. I wish I coined
it, but I did. I don't

1255
01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:17.680
know where it came from. You
know, privacy is why you draw the

1256
01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:21.640
curtains, security is why you lock
your doors. Okay, And I know

1257
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:26.159
people will say I got nothing to
hide and all that, but increasingly,

1258
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:30.119
you know, all of this data
that's collected about you, whether you understand

1259
01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:32.119
it or not, whether you consent
to it full or not, it's being

1260
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:36.560
used in ways people couldn't possibly possibly
imagine and in ways that can be negative

1261
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:40.439
to your ability to get a job
or in a department, get insurance,

1262
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:43.359
et cetera. But even if you
take all of that out of the equation,

1263
01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:46.680
you know, now, thanks to
AI, could I hack your web

1264
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:50.239
camera, get some information and then
turn that into some sort of video that

1265
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:55.279
allegs you you did something bad?
And we also know from tactical experience that

1266
01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:59.680
sometimes when you maybe your your camera
is on and you don't realize it,

1267
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:02.800
like the guy from CNN if you
recall what was his name, Jeffrey Tuban,

1268
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:09.479
Yes, you may recall he seemed
to be having a moment with himself

1269
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:13.479
on cameras. Yeah he was.
He was, as they say, spanking

1270
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:18.039
it during a company zoom call.
But I wasn't sure if that was FCS

1271
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:25.800
the approved term. But anyhow,
yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

1272
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.640
but uh, you know, so
for a long time, and I can

1273
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:31.880
remember when this caused some controversy,
I don't know, maybe four or five,

1274
01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:36.960
six years ago, when people like
Mark Zuckerberg and former FBI director Comy

1275
01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:40.640
would show up at events and they'd
have a piece of tape over the camera

1276
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:43.359
on their computer, right, and
it's like, oh, that's some kind

1277
01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:45.800
of tinfoil hat and uttery. Why
would remind folks too that you know,

1278
01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:51.439
software could be dropped on your your
device that could enable these cameras and microphones

1279
01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:55.960
and so was without your knowledge.
It has been done and used in court

1280
01:44:56.039 --> 01:45:00.159
against defendants. So yeah, I'm
all for or you should cover up your

1281
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.800
camera. You should not have devices
that have cameras and microphones in them of

1282
01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:09.359
any sort, any IoT device,
computers or whatever, unless you really need

1283
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:13.760
them and understand the potential consequences and
how to defend against them. But this

1284
01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.479
story here is even crazier, and
it goes to show a We're lucky that

1285
01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:21.760
there are smart researchers out there who
are trying to find these kinds of problems,

1286
01:45:21.800 --> 01:45:28.279
people like Google Project zero and Palo
Alto Unit forty two and other organizations

1287
01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:31.880
who get paid to do this kind
of research consumer reports. So what researchers

1288
01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:36.399
have discovered is if you have a
modern notebook type computer that's got a camera

1289
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:41.640
in it, most of these things
have sensors built into them to try to

1290
01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:45.000
determine how much light there is in
the room and then change like the ambient

1291
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.560
lighting in the keyboard backlighting and the
monitor and that sort of thing. Right,

1292
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:53.159
most people probably know you can set
your computer up to like and at

1293
01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:56.479
a certain time at night, change
how bright the screen is and so forth.

1294
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.720
So what these researchers have determined is
even if you cover up the camera,

1295
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:04.760
it's possible, per their research,
to use the ambient lighting sensors to

1296
01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:10.239
basically see you see what your hands
are doing, which means they could perhaps

1297
01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.960
get your passwords. Now, this
is a very advanced hack. I don't

1298
01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.359
think it's ever been done out in
the wild, but it goes to show,

1299
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:18.920
like, you know, if you
do some research, you'll find there's

1300
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:23.239
all kinds of wild stuff out there, mit scientists fireing a laser at a

1301
01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:26.239
light bulb in the room and picking
up what you're saying from the vibrations of

1302
01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:30.359
the light bulb, being able to
use lasers and other types of technology to

1303
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.720
watch what the lights on the computer
are doing and steal your data. So,

1304
01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:36.880
you know, the good news is
there are people out there who are

1305
01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:41.720
constantly doing this kind of research and
trying to find these kinds of concerns.

1306
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:45.159
Is the average person going to be
hacked by the ambient light sensors in your

1307
01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:49.439
computer? Probably not, But the
advice of the research is put them somewhere

1308
01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:54.000
else on the computer so they're not
facing the operator right, So then you

1309
01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:58.640
would have less risk of data being
stolen, passwords being stolen, or who

1310
01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:02.560
knows what else. But it just
goes to show there are smart people.

1311
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:08.000
And Gary, Jeff, you know, if the good smart people are doing

1312
01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:11.920
this kind of research and finding these
problems, what are the bad smart people

1313
01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:16.159
doing? Yeah, you know they're
doing it and probably way ahead, probably

1314
01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:20.479
way ahead, you know. So
it just goes to show if you're not

1315
01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:26.319
taking this stuff seriously, bad stuff
can happen. And we're fortunate that there

1316
01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.520
are people exposing these things and then
hopefully downstream either A people wise up and

1317
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:35.800
change their behavior and or b the
manufacturers build in more security, change how

1318
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:40.399
the devices work, et cetera.
But it's a wild story and there's new

1319
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:44.960
stuff like this coming out all the
time. And that's why I love to

1320
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:46.800
have you on other than the fact
that I just like you, Dave,

1321
01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:51.720
is that you're here to be our
clarion to alert us that it's going on

1322
01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:56.319
because you follow all of it.
So well. Thank you again for your

1323
01:47:56.359 --> 01:48:02.880
time tonight, mister pre Mayer.
My pleasure, Gary Jeff always good to

1324
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:06.279
be on. All right, Dave
Hatter, you can find him all over

1325
01:48:06.319 --> 01:48:13.000
the place, and thankfully for me
here on the Nightcap. As we close

1326
01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:19.239
out, we'll be right back on
seven hundred WLW. Willy gives me hope,

1327
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:23.359
and these days we can all use
some hope. Willy is here for

1328
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:26.520
you, no matter how lousy my
day is. I know I can count

1329
01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:29.880
on Willie to turn things around here
to soothe your fears. I wish I

1330
01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:32.039
could find a man just like Willie, But the great American that I am,

1331
01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.159
he uses lots of big words.
I use lots of big words too.

1332
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:38.840
It's almost like we're twins. All
you have to do is listen to

1333
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:43.159
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