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Joe Weiscalante live from Hollywood. If
by Hollywood you mean Burbank, I might

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sound a little different. It sounds
a little FMI, I think right now.

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But I'm we're broadcasting live from Burbank. Actually sometimes I lie and I

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say we're in Burbank and we're early
in Seal Beach, But today we're in

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Burbank. Sam, good to see
you face to face here and the iHeart

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radio studios. You never age.
Oh, thank you, thank you.

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Yes, I'm like Tom Cruise,
but I have gray hair. But I'm

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sure he does too. Let's be
honest, we just don't get to see

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it. That's fine, you know
whatever. Um, we're gonna talk about

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Tom Cruise mission. This is two
hours of the business end of show Business,

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live from Hollywood, cross the street
from a Wiener Schnitzel over here that

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I just drove by. Sells beer. If you ever want to have a

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beer in a probably the worst atmosphere
you could ever have a drinking, come

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on down. They've been sponsoring the
show for generations. Yeah. Um,

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try the new North Korean fusion tacos. They're on sale this week and let's

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see you. It is July sixteenth, twenty twenty three. So this is

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real live radio. If you're driving
around on the freeways. This is what

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it's like. This is what this
is what it's come to. But it's

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free. It's worth every penny.
And we're going to talk about the business

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of show business and the Hollywood community. A lot of people are on strike,

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and maybe now it's not the time
to get into show business, but

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you know, we're going to talk
about it anyway. I'd say this is

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exactly the time to talk about show
business. It really is, because if

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I stop one person from moving to
Hollywood to join show business, UM,

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I might be, you know,
doing the world of Favor or that person

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of favor. What? Um?
What is uh? I had a question

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for you, but I forgot it. Um. Oh yeah? Are we

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breaking the strike? Are we after
this? Does this station have anything to

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do with AFTER? I never got
I me personally, I'm not union.

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I'm a member of after SAG.
After so does after A fall in line

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with SAG on these kind of American
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Yeah, Rule number one, don't
do non union work here. I am

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been here for I mean, you
know what SAG you want to come down

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here and pick it. I've been
doing this for since two thousand and six.

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No one's ever come to me and
said, hey, UM, we're

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gonna know you negotiate a better deal
for you on your radio thing. I

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just get less and less every year. But you know what, I don't

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worry about it. I'm not saying
people shouldn't worry about it. Um so

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that the actors are on strike now, so I'm a member of SAG after

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it used to be. I used
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then they merged after and SAG merged. Um. But there are a few

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things that um it. The only
thing that is that is strike. That

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is um you're not allowed to do
right now are the things covered by the

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main agreement that covers actors, um
working on TV and film. There's other

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agreements actors doing reality programming like hosts
that those are not technically striking right now.

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So you can do that kind of
work. But let's start with the

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movies like we usually do. I
don't want to get off track here.

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We're gonna get to the strike.
I got some information for you, information

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you're never gonna hear anywhere else.
By the way, and uh, we

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got about Disneyland, we got celebrities
by behaving badly, we got some crazy

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lawsuits as usual. So let's go
to the box office. Though, number

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one movie in the country right now, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part one from

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Paramount Pictures did fifty six million for
the weekend. It had a little advance

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again Wednesday Thursday thing, so it's
like eighty million total for the weekend.

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So that's eighty million. I think
they're happy about that. People are happy

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about that. It's gonna make a
lot of money. It's gonna make his

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money back, evidently, and Tom
Cruise knows how to make money at the

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box office these days, so we
can all thank him. And he took

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He kind of brought the movie theaters
back single handedly by insisting that Top Gun

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was going to be held and put
in the theaters. And he did it,

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and it was a smash, and
people went to the movies that hadn't

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been to the movies in years.
And I think this one's going to draw

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people to the movies as well.
Have you seen it, Sam, I

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have not, Well I have.
Let me tell you, it is a

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blockbuster. It is everything you wanted
to be um, Tom Cruise is,

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um, yeah, he's he's clearly
aging. But yeah, who cares um

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the women because I complained about the
woman in Indiana Jones and the Dial of

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Destiny. She's the fleabag Ladies's great
in Fleeback. I don't I didn't like

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her as a you know, a
bombshell in a in a popcorn movie.

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But there's a lot of bombshells in
Mission Impossible. They all work, they're

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all different, and I don't know
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Well, I should tell you a
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end without spoiling anything. The special
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final climactic scene are better than any
I've ever seen, and they're more thrilling

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than about anything I've ever seen in
a movie. And I saw it in

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the D box. Shaky seats,
the vibrating seats. Oh yeah, yeah,

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you saw moon whatever. I saw
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of the of the decade, but
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movie experiences I've had just because of
that. Yeah, well, this one

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is is that the kind that sprays
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this isn't that I did go see
a film in that before and it was

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kind of fun. Forgot the name
of the movie is Forgettable, but um,

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this one is just uh it's called
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Cinemark theaters. Okay, I'm sure
other theaters have. But it doesn't spray

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water. But it's more like a
um simulation experience, similar to star tours

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at Disneyland. Oh cool. So
you're in the you're in you know,

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if someone shoot somebody, you feel
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feel it. If you're in a
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feel it. So I did that. It was a little more. I

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was like twenty one dollars a seed
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movies four hours through two hours and
forty three minutes, and I didn't want

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to fall asleep, and I knew
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I've been like kind of, you
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doing a lot of surfing, a
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like, oh, I'm going to
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those tickets. My wife agreed,
and we loved it. Not because we

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were so thrilled to be taken on
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stuff. It's because every time I
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long at someone just got punched.
So it was definitely, I mean,

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for two hours and forty three minutes, I really needed it and I got

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it. So anyway, a great
movie. Go see it. Number two

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movie in America. Can you take
a guess, Sam, Oh, I

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know what it is. The Sound
of Freedom. You're right, The Sound

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of Freedom, which I believe was
the number one movie last week also and

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then I was wondering why did it
get more money? But they didn't call

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it number one, and you know, there's technicalities. But now I know

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it. There's people that are against
this movie. Now that I've now that

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I know how that people are against
this movie, people are attacking it.

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So we'll get into a little bit
about that. This is the movie that

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is a true story of a guy
named Tim Ballard who brought down a child

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sex trafficking ring in Colombia, and
it shows you know what he isn't you

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know? Action adventure movie shows what
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did another twenty seven million, so
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I'm going to get into maybe into
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this movie. Sam is going to
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It's it's fascinating. Number three is
insidious the Red Door. So that

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was a number one last week,
even though it made less than Sound of

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Freedom, but they called it number
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it has a sixty one percent drop
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Angel Studios, Sound of Freedom is
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just the weekend numbers, it actually
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more theaters. Indiana Jones is down
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Made one hundred and forty five million, cost two hundred and forty million or

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something like that or something ridiculous wow, or maybe two eighty and elemental um.

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Yeah, it's hanging in there.
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Spider Man still making money. Three
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no hard feelings. Great film.
It's made forty six million dollars so

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far. It's making money. It's
an R rated comedy. You expect to

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see more of those. Jennifer Lawrence, joy Ride, the Asian Ensemble Comedy

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ten Million. Yeah's hanging in there, and then you get into a little

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Mermaid Askesteroid City, which you should
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should like Wes Anderson. All right, that's enough for that. Let's take

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a break and check the traffic and
we'll come back. I'll tell you a

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little bit more about what's going on
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the finances that are making this a
very interesting release, and expect to see

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more like it. Joe Scalante Live
from Hollywood. Joe Scalante, Live from

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Hollywood. This is the business end
of show business, every Sunday here on

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KiB eleven fifteen, your am dial. We just went through the top ten

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movies of the weekend. So of
course Mission Impossible, it's a blockbuster,

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but Sound of Freedom. So a
lot of news about Sound of Freedom.

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Sam, have you heard it?
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the controversy. I didn't get too
deep into the into the weeds with it.

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You know. The controversy is that, um, only kookie, right

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wing qan on people would like this
movie because there's that you know. Well,

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let's let's go to the Rolling Stone
article. Rolling Stone writes an article

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about this movie and this movie.
First of all, this movie is made

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five years ago. There wasn't even
a qan On wasn't even a word five

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years ago. So so, um, I don't really know QAnon is it's

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some like oracle that speaks really weird
right wing conspiracies. That might have been

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the early days of q So it
could be a QAnon production then, but

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I mean like super early before it
became more mainstreamed. Okay, so what

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these people that This is a Rolling
Stone article and it says the headline is

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Sound of Freedom torched by child trafficking
experts, so the child. So what

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it's trying to tell you is don't
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Rolling Stone magazine is telling you.
Don't go see it because experts have torched

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it. This guy, the guy
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Tim Tim Ballard. He was a
It's about a guy who was a law

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enforcement operative that busted sex trafficking guys
and he became disillusioned because yeah, they

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would keep busting these guys. And
he says at that you know earlier point

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in the movie, how many kids
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And the guy's like, you know
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we get these guys and we lats
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about it too much. He thought
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he couldn't live with himself. He
said, he's got pictures of kids that

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are being trafficed. He wanted to
save them, so he went down to

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Columbia and he saves them. And
he still saves them. But evidently there

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are experts that are smarter than him
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and so you should not pay attention
to his story or this movie. So

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and it just says, odh to
statistics. Really this is this is the

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terms people are using it. This
is an issue that's being ginned up and

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exaggerated by right wing people when it's
not really much of an issue as they

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say it is. So it's being
torched. Don't go see it. That's

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what Rolling Stone is saying. I
don't see any reason to do that,

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to be to try to torch this
movie or prevent people from seeing it's disgusting,

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to try to prevent people from seeing
this but that's what Rolling Stone Magazine

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is doing. They're trying to prevent
people from seeing this movie. They're upset

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about it. Now, when you
see this movie, you bring awareness to

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sex trafficking, and it's a gross
topic. Nobody wants to talk about it.

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It's hard to sell these movies into
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associated with it. So they did
this movie and they sold it to It

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was originally done by financed by twentieth
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to Disney, so then Disney had
it. So the movie was made and

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it's probably what did they pay for
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So let's see Disney has it.
They give it. They they spent

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ten million dollars for it, and
they were going to put it on Hulu.

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Now, if Disney, who owns
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movie on Hulu, they're not gonna
get ten mo dollars for it. They

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can't pay themselves ten million dollars for
a movie, so they would probably Hulu

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would give them two million, and
they would just write it down. They

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had one column, Okay, you're
giving us two million dollars over here,

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and the guy who lose probably bombs
he's got, I want to take my

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two million dollars and I'd like rather
rather buy something else, and goes,

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now, well we got I don't
want to lose all my money on this.

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So and why would no one take
it? Interesting because it's a very

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good film and it's about a true
story, and nobody wants it. And

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my opinion is there's a conspiracy around
there. And you know, the conspiracy

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is now in plain sight because the
Rolling Stone is telling people they're panicking now

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that it's in the theaters, don't
go see this movie. Experts say it's

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psum, so they they find.
So what happens is Eduardo Varastigi and his

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people come in and they buy the
movie. They said, what was Hulu

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going to give it to you?
We'll give you that much, so maybe

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they give them two million, and
then they so they have enough money for

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the two million, but now they
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the marketing and they get all the
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all the marketing because you got to
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then they put it out in the
theater and they it's gonna make eighty five

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million dollars, So that's like,
you know, ten million eighty five minus

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tillion, there's gonna be like seventy
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more? How much more is going
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to keep, we'll give it to
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financial hit as well as bringing awareness
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there's rumors of people sabotaging screenings.
Uh there's some video one TV where someone

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turned the lights on during a screening. There's other stories. I don't know,

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you know, if this is true, we don't have um we can,

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we'll probably not figured out. I
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out is that Rolling Stone magazine doesn't
want you to see a great movie about

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an important topic. And I'm a
witness to this because I saw the movie

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and it was great. The topic
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They show video from the actual people. You can read up on it.

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If if someone said there's this many
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then uh, you know, I
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pick a pick it apart and tell
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so what it comes down to is
politics. Like everything, The Rolling Stone

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sees Jim Caviezel as a conservative and
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They both are, and they want
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well, if he's a Catholic,
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lefty, and you're gonna say,
like, well, if he does.

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go all right, good for you, you know what, maybe we're gonn

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all get behind this. But these
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why people are freaked out. Rolling
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are so freaked out. You know, they're telling you not to see this

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movie because of the politics of the
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the I mean, what if that
what if that ends up with more people

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being trafficked. It sounds like they
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know, more important, and they
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tie these guys to nutcases. Now
are their nutcases in the in the pedophile

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world. Yeah, there's people who
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I've heard that. Don't pay attention
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real. Well, it's real is
video of kids getting snatched on the streets

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and a peto file island. This
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created a sting. He went down
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you're all coming to this island.
We're gonna have a party and there's

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gonna be kids. And they all
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guy, some organization brides of the
kids. Other guys pay to be there

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at the island. Once the kids
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there, the Colombian government comes in
and shuts it down, puts the guys

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in jail, and arrests all these
kids that have been kidnapped and missing for

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a long time. That's the story. This guy doesn't want. It's a

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guy named Tim Ballard. He's a
hero. So it's a big gross but

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the finances are amazing. They're gonna
make a lot of money. We'll talk

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a little bit more about it when
we can come back. Joe Scalante Live

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from Hollywood. Joe Scalante Live from
Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank,

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we're talking about movies. And number
two movie in America is The Sound

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of Freedom. But definitely the most
controversial movie in the country right now is

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a Sound of Freedom. And a
lot of controversy is because of people who

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are denouncing the film, saying that
it's exaggerated or it is connected to people

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who are nefarious, so you shouldn't
see it. And there's an article in

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the Rolling Stone magazine where he quotes
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Rolling Stone has an agenda. They
want this movie to not make an impact.

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And I'm not saying they're doing it
because they're part of a pedophile conspiracy.

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They are just hyper political. They
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are more conservative than they would like
them to be, so they want they

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don't want them to maybe have credit
for this or have successes, because then

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they might have successes and other things. But what maybe also at play is

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the fact that if you recognize that
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recognize then you have to I don't
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I know one thing that helps it
continue, and that is an open border.

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So the people that are for this
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attention to that because that would be
a solution and then you'd have to close

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the border, and for some reason, people don't want to close the border.

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So same with fentanyl. If you
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you to search people and they come
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fentyl. But nobody seems to want
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a law that's going to punish China
for making fentanyl. Jeezus anyway, So

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that seems to be I'm trying to
piece this together, like why you would

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want to torch this movie and make
people not see it. But it's just

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hyper politicization of even the welfare of
children. Now we've seen Rolling Stone do

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this before. Rolling Stone, as
you remember, had to pay I think

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one point sixty five million to the
fraternity at Virginia, the University of Virginia.

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You remember this one, Sam,
Yes, yes, they A girl

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said I was gang raped at a
party blah blah blah, and instead of

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checking it out, they just ran
this horrendous story about a fraternity because they

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wanted to write the story. The
story. The script was already written,

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and the script was the story was, if you go to this fraternity,

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you will get raped and they will
get away with it. And it turned

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out to not be true, and
it was just a you know, defamatory

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scandal that almost ruined Rolling Stone.
I'm surprised people don't remember that because I

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remember meeting a guy at Rolling Stone
right when that happened, and he was

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dejected, couldn't get any ad revenue. But somehow they bounced back to UM.

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But you know, that's the same
company that's sitting here saying that you

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shouldn't see the Sound of Freedom.
It should just probably. You know,

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you got to choose your battles,
So choose a join with the people who

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made Sound of Freedom and fight sex
trafficking. And if you think someone there

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is getting crazy and going to tell
you there's something you don't believe, like

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in a pizza parler or whatever,
then you know you can denounce that by

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helping them. But you don't want
to. You seemed a little suspect when

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you're telling people not to you know, you're telling people not to go see

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it, and then you're interviewing people
haven't seen it and saying, um,

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yeah, this is it could be
worse than they're I mean, they're all

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over the map in this rolling Stone
thing. Oh that's gross, pretty gross.

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So I will I'll leave that topic
behind. Good news for the movie.

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It is making millions. It's just
one of those stories like just you

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know, they with they believed in
it, They bought the movie back from

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the distributor, they crowdfunding for some
marketing money, and it exploded even though

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despite people trying to stop it.
So if you haven't seen it, go

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see it now. Another movie you
might want to go see is um the

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most anticipated movie, Sam. It's
my favorite part of the It seems like

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no matter what movie's playing, there's
always a movie it's better than what's playing

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is about that hasn't come out yet. Do you ever notice that when you

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go when you look at the movies, Yeah, the one that you're always

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looking forward to, the anticipation movie
of the year. It's always next week

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or a couple of weeks. And
then you got to sit around and watch

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Insidious, not just kidding. I'm
sure in Cities is great. Oh okay,

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So what are people anticipating, Well, they're certainly anticipating. Barbie opens

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July twenty first, that's I guess
Wednesday, and Oppenheimer open on the same

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day. And Oppenheimer, of course
was shot in an IMAX and is taking

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over all the imaxes. So they're
going to kick Mission Impossible out of the

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Imaxes, kicking everybody out of the
Imaxes. It's only going to be Oppenheimer.

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And I'm gonna go see it at
the Palms Hotel in Las Vegas because

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I will be there with my Punk
Rock Museum Tours. This is now a

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commercial from my punk Rock Museum Tours
Sam. If you want to go see

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if you want to go to the
Punk Rock Museum and have me be your

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tour guide. That will be starting
on Wednesday, the twentieth of July through

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Sunday the twenty third, three pm, twelve pm and three pm. And

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it's fun. You go to punk
Rock Museum dot com and find the guided

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tour section, go to the date
you want and pick. It's twentieth to

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the twenty third. Is only time
I'm gonna be there, so you gotta

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pick those dates. Um. And
then yeah, I'm gonna see up on

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Heimer on Sunday, Barbie. I
don't know when I'm gonna squeeze it in,

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but I definitely want to see it. The other movie I'm anticipating,

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it's The Haunted Mansion. Are you
excited about the Hunter mention? You've seen

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the trailer, right, I've seen
the trailer. I'm dying to see Danny

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DeVito in it. That's the thing
that's like the big draw for me.

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Well, they had a premiere,
Yeah, Danny DeVito, Yeah, just

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I don't know who the other guy
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but he was funny too. Yeah. Yeah, So I can't wait

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to see that. Um. They
had a premiere and the director's justice Justin

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Simeon, and he addressed everybody at
the thing, and the elephant in the

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room was there were no actors at
the premiere. The actors could not go

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because they are on strike. They
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So I don't know what that'll do
to this movie, but we'll see.

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Now we talked, I think we
talked about it last week with the

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Oppenheimer actors walking out of the premiere. Yeah, that's a big thing.

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The actors joining the writers on strike
gives a lot more leverage to the writers

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and the actors if they have to
unite. Well, we'll see, we're

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gonna talk about this. Let's see, we'll see. Before we take a

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break, let me tell you about
another movie that I'm excited about and everybody's

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anticipating. And that would be,
like I'm moving around in my notes here,

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here it comes snow White, the
live action snow White. I didn't

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even know that one was happening.
This is you're breaking news right here.

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Well, that's the thing. There's
so many anticipated films coming up that really

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a lot. Next weekend is gonna
be Barbenheimer Weekend apparently, so we gotta

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we have that to look forward to. But yes, snow White, apparently

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that's now a thing. Yes,
but there's a controversy. Set photos purporting

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to be from Disney's live action remake
of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs received

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backlash for its politically correct depiction of
the princess's famed companions. The article entitled

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snow White and the Seven politically Correct
Companions which claim to show leaked images from

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the Disney set, was taken in
Bedfordshire, England, in July the July

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thirteen. In the photos, and
actress appeared to be dressed to snow Whites

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in her signature yellow and blue dress
with a red cape, accompanied by a

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cast of diverse male and female actors
playing seven characters. While the woman in

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the photo bears no resemblance to Rachel
Zegler, who portrays snow White in the

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upcoming live action film, The Daily
Mail claimed that the photos featured two stand

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in extras who stood in for post
production photography. So do the question is

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do they have dwarfs or do they
not have dwarves? So we don't know

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yet and but it's causing a controversy. But if they call it the Dwarf

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snow White and the seven Dwarfs,
it seems like you already did that.

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You might as well have dwarfs.
If you don't have dwarfs, who would

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you call it? Snow White and
friends? Can we get the rock as

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one of them? Know? What
about the guy from Guardians of the Galaxy

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tracks? Yeah, so this looks
like a fake controversy because they were possibly

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stand ins but that the world is
buzzing. Are they dwarves or are they

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not dwarves? But if they call
it dwarves, I mean you've already done

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that. Anyway, I'm looking forward
to that other movies we're anticipating. Before

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we break here, I will just
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Mutant Mayhem looks amazing. It's very
funny. It has the same I can

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say amazing. It has the same
kind of visual arts style as the Spider

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Man movies. Yes, yeah,
so I'm used to that kind of animation

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now, so I could sit through
a Ninja Turtle one. There's a lot

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of cool actors, you know,
doing voices and stuff. It was cool.

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What about the live action Wonka origin
story. That's I'm looking forward to

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it. I'm a big fan of
the entire Willie Wonk thing, all the

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way from Jane Wilder through Johnny Depp. I want to see how it goes.

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Yeah, I'll be there. All
right. Well, I think we

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better check the traffic. And I
don't know if you should believe the traffic

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because that last traffic report did not
give you the full impact of what I

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went through on the five freeway getting
up here from Seal Beach, So stay

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off the five. That is your
your pre traffic report from Joe's Scalante Live

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from Hollywood's Lante Live from Hollywood.
By Hollywood, you mean Burbank, So

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we're talking about Hollywood. So we
do on Sunday's KiB and you get the

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podcast later on iHeart Radio or any
other podcast place, and that'll that'll happen

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a little bit later tonight, right
Sam, yep. Okay, Let's talk

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a little bit about the strike,
because everywhere I go, everybody asked me

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does it strike affect you? How
does it strike affect you? And nobody

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cares really, but it's a conversation
starter. Um, But let's just talk

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about how it affects people actually work
in these guilts. So you have several

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guilds, the writers Guild, they
Directors Guild, the actors Guild, and

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then you have the below the line
guilds, IATSI teamsters, you know,

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make up costumes. Now, of
course we know the writers want on strike

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and they want more residuals. They
want something that's called getting paid in success,

404
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.119
and they want promises that no one's
going to replace them with AI all

405
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:51.319
right. And then you have the
actors who similar things. I wouldn't.

406
00:32:51.599 --> 00:33:05.279
I want more money and I want
AI promises and I want um residuals for

407
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.799
things. I want to be paid
in success, Sam, do you want

408
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.000
to be hiding success? I would
like that yes. And in failure actually

409
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.039
that'd be amazing too. Well,
those are what the executives get paid,

410
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:22.960
and failure they get they get promotions
and stock options. I think an exercise

411
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:29.079
and failure. So I think both
of these are different. The writers Guild

412
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:35.480
and the actor's Guild. I don't
think you can conflate the dude the two

413
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:42.240
that much because, um, it's
it's two, it's it's it's a different

414
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.119
situation. Now the actors. You're
talking about, like, it's not going

415
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:54.000
to kill the studios to give the
actors a little bit of a raise close

416
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.920
to what they want, maybe even
exactly what they want. And you're talking

417
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.759
about raises the people who make minimums
because you make a minimum, we're talking

418
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.239
about SAG minimums. That's what people
don't understand. We're talking about SAG minimums.

419
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:12.079
Now, if you if you're making
one hundred and thirty eight dollars a

420
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.440
day as an extra, Um,
you know what, how long you've been

421
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:22.760
making that, you know, how's
inflation? Give them more, you know,

422
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.039
give the actors more. That makes
sense. I don't Some people say

423
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:35.079
it's not even a real fight because
many cynical people, Sam, believe that

424
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:42.159
the streamers are just they need a
breather from all the spending they're doing.

425
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.280
So it's just like, all right, you guys want what and they like,

426
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:54.360
you know, no, we can't
afford that, just like I guess

427
00:34:54.440 --> 00:35:00.840
you'll have to go on strike,
won't you. Yeah, And like Netflix,

428
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:06.760
especially Netflix, like we've got a
backlog of stuff, international stuff,

429
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.239
We've got stuff that's not covered by
the gills. We've got so many things,

430
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.840
Sam, you ever think about like, hey, I think I've seen

431
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:19.280
everything on Netflix. I think I'm
gonna cancel it. I've gotten to the

432
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.960
point where everything that I've wanted to
see I've seen. Yes, Yeah,

433
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.760
but I don't think I'll ever get
to the point of canceling it, just

434
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:30.199
because Yeah, even if they run
out of even if there's no stranger things,

435
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.000
they're gonna pull out stuff and they're
gonna give you they can buy stuff

436
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.639
too. Yeah, it's already done. They just can't produce stuff, so

437
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.559
they could buy things. I've got
a couple of movies in my catalog they

438
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.039
could buy. Um, you know, I just thought of that. Maybe

439
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:51.199
I'll go some some of my movies. So the idea that Netflix is gonna

440
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.239
get so squeezed that they're going to
come to the table, is I think

441
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.960
of fantasy now that other people are
gonna suffer. Or there's so many way

442
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.960
that some you know, some people
can stuff for some people aren't. But

443
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:08.880
let's let's stick with um, the
the actors for a while. Um.

444
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:21.000
There's an article in the Trades Hollywood
Reporter about an actor named Sean Gunn and

445
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:27.079
he is slamming Netflix because he's for
a lack of residuals for the Gilmor Girls.

446
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.519
Maybe you know the Gilmore Girls.
I think goes, I think I

447
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:35.199
saw your trapper keeper. Yeah,
I'm a huge fan. Yeah. Um

448
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:40.119
he's um. So he's complaining about
it and what you're getting, like anything,

449
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:49.880
there's a lot of I call it
misinformation or um just not the full

450
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:54.760
story. So it's hard to get
the full story on whether these actors um

451
00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:00.840
that are that are making the most
noise can really really argue for the right

452
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:07.039
things, or if someone really dug
down. Would they find out that,

453
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.559
you know, what they're saying really
isn't true. For instance, there's a

454
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.679
rumor going around one of the issues
says AI is one of the issues being

455
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.679
disputed in Hollywood. According to sag
After's chief negotiator, Studios proposed that our

456
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.800
background performers should be able to be
scanned, get one day's pay, and

457
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.800
their companies should own that scan,
their image, their likeness, and should

458
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:37.840
be able to use it for the
rest of eternity on any project they want,

459
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:46.360
with no consent and no compensation.
Sounds terrible, right, It sounds

460
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:52.719
potentially damaging to people whose images and
likenesses are being used without their consent.

461
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:59.920
Yeah, but did anyone really say
this? It seems like when I first

462
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.119
go an so, I think it's
crazy to believe someone a chief negotiator to

463
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:13.119
propose this, because it is insane. And like, I'll tell you what,

464
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.800
We're gonna take a break and we'll
talk about what they really said.

465
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.159
And a couple other things, like
with this James Gunn article where he's saying

466
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:29.000
he's so deprived. Um, we'll
see what it really means and then we'll

467
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:35.400
go to the actors the writers strike
and see if they've got a better handle

468
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:43.679
on things. Joe Is Kalante Live
from Hollywood. Shot live from Hollywood by

469
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.599
Hollywood, I mean Burbank across the
street from a Wiener Schnitzel it sells beer.

470
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.719
This is two hours of the business, end of show business. And

471
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:58.719
we're an hour number two live from
this my Heart Radio Studios and Burbank.

472
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.639
Sam, it's good to be back. It's good to have you here.

473
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.840
Good to back, Good to be
back. For hour number two, we're

474
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.880
talking about the strike right now.
Last you get the podcast, you can

475
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.199
hear what we talked about in the
first hour, which was a lot of

476
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.840
movies, a lot of stuff about
Sounds of Freedom and the controversy surrounding that

477
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:25.199
movie. It's pretty compelling. And
the finances, wow. They you know,

478
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.559
someone took some risk and made a
ton of money. Um, and

479
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:30.719
you know, I don't know if
they put that in their pockets or they

480
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.199
give it to the sex trafficking organizations
or whatever, or if they just buy

481
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:43.000
pizza. I don't really know quite
Uh, they got a lot of money

482
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.440
that's probably gonna make I'd say they
I'd say there, they could be into

483
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.679
the I guess that the seventy million
dollars, I would say, is maybe,

484
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:57.039
um, what's coming in that's profitable
after paying for the movie. The

485
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.679
distributor paid for the movie, you
know, or whatever they gave them as

486
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.559
an advance, and then they've got
to cover all their expenses, payback the

487
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:08.039
investors, and then then you probably
got like thirty million each between the distributor

488
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:14.639
and the the Coviazels or the Vrastegi's
the guys that put it together. Uh,

489
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:15.639
it's a lot of money for I
mean, my numbers there. If

490
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.159
they're listening to this, they're like, oh, there's not anywhere near that

491
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.400
we have this on that to pay
for. But there's a there's many millions,

492
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.639
tens of millions, trust me,
So good for them. Go see

493
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.079
the movie if you can. It's
very good. Go see Mission Impossible,

494
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:37.719
also very good. The um strike
very bad, very concerning this strike because

495
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:45.599
there's just there's so many angles,
so many spider webs of stuff going on,

496
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:51.199
and and the stuff you're hearing might
not be you know, accurate,

497
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:58.360
just it's you know, there's emotions
are running high. Fran Drescher is is,

498
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.599
uh, you know Frandu right,
She's the head of the union.

499
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:07.320
It's not the negotiator. But um, she went off to to Rope or

500
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.360
England or something and did some work
and made some money at a um,

501
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.079
I don't know where it was.
It was fashion show like and got paid

502
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.239
by like Givanshi or someone to go
to a fashion show. And then she

503
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:21.239
got some backlash. Why how dare
you go out and make money? So

504
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.400
she came back and made a big
announcement. It was very stern. It

505
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:31.559
was one of the harshest uh Screen
Actors Guild Leaders messages you know. Ever

506
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.800
they're saying, it's just it was
really harsh. So she's she's Some people

507
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.039
say she had to make up for
her sins of going out and making money,

508
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:45.159
so it gonna be extra harsh.
So she was extra harsh. Um.

509
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:54.000
But earlier I mentioned this actor it's
gun. Well, first of all,

510
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.039
before we get the gun, there
is work out there for actors.

511
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.880
They don't They can still do commercials
that's not covered. They can go do

512
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.440
commercials, And you say, well, why wouldn't they aren't they just not

513
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:14.199
work in support of their brothers.
Well, the people making the commercials have

514
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.480
not wronged them, and they have
a contract they're happy with theoretically, so

515
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.400
go work for them. Soap operas. Did you know that, Sam,

516
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.880
They can do soap operas. Wow, Um, those deals. But those

517
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.800
deals will expire eventually, and they
will often negotiate. Maybe they will they

518
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:31.440
will go on strike. For right
now, they can do soap operas,

519
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.719
they can do variety shows. They
can do late night talk shows under something

520
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:43.320
called the Network Television Code. Now
we know that the writers are not doing

521
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:50.920
are the Writers Guild agreement covers talk
shows. So that's why you're not seeing

522
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.039
any other talk shows besides Great Gutfeld
on the air right now. So,

523
00:42:54.559 --> 00:43:05.199
but the actors can go do the
talk shows even if the talk shows come

524
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.079
back. Sometimes the talk shows might
come back and they will do them without

525
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.719
writers, which is interesting. You
know, you're do them without writers.

526
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.719
They did like one of these award
shows recently without writers, and it's just

527
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.199
like, okay, we have no
writers. Um here introduced the nominees.

528
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.960
Yeah, go out there and wing
it. Yeah, you can do that,

529
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.079
and it can't be any worse than
these A lot of these awards shows

530
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.559
anyway. But they can do a
talk show without writers and say, okay,

531
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.159
here's here's a guest. I'm gonna
ask her questions about her latest movie.

532
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.519
But then there's some rules against promoting
your movies. You can do acting,

533
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.719
but I think maybe you can't promote
your movies or something like that.

534
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:47.199
Anyway, there's stuff for people to
do and they don't have to end,

535
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.440
and a lot of them are flocking
to the theater, Sam, live theater,

536
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.360
not movie theater. Well, they're
probably flocking to the theaters too because

537
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.320
they got time in their hands so
they can go see Mission Impossible, Dead

538
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:07.960
Reckoning Part two like I did.
I'm on strike, Sam. I don't

539
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.480
know if you know that. What
are you picking in? Well, I'm

540
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.440
a member of the Screen Actor's Guild, then i am. I'm on strike,

541
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.079
not doing any work except for this
non union probably sketchy work I'm doing

542
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.639
right now. But I'm not.
I'm not. I'm you know, technically

543
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.280
i'm strike. I can't. I'm
in the union. And why are you

544
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.559
in the union, Joe? Well, you know, mainly because when the

545
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.320
vandals. So I'm not an actor. I've done some acting and some internet

546
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:46.920
shows, but when the vandals play
in a movie like we did this movie

547
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:52.719
Saving Silverman, where we recorded a
version of Evil woman for Jack Black to

548
00:44:52.800 --> 00:45:00.440
run around too. Now you could
be in the like Musicians Guild UM or

549
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.679
you can. You know, they
tell you what gild you're in. If

550
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.480
you say you're in the Screen Actors
Guild, then you get royalties through them.

551
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:12.239
So I get royalties from appearing having
playing music in a movie as a

552
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.239
member of SACK and I did,
yeah, a couple of things. I

553
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:19.679
did voice for a cartoon called The
Little Bush. It's Comedy Central. Every

554
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.559
once in a while someone asked me
to do something. I've auditioned for a

555
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.119
few things. It turns out I'm
a terrible audition er, Sam, so

556
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.400
I shouldn't ask you for advice on
how to audition for different roles. When

557
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.840
I was on morning radio, a
lot of the casting directors, and by

558
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:39.599
a lot, I mean I would
say one at least contacted me and say

559
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:45.440
come in and read for these.
It was mainly, uh, not Disney

560
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.119
movies, but like the dream Works
movies. Say this one casting director,

561
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.559
how many come in and read for
everything? Okay, read for parrot number

562
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.920
one, parrot number two, or
this one Pete, all kinds of them.

563
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.800
And I just couldn't get it,
couldn't he couldn't. He's like,

564
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.840
man, I gotta get you one
of these roles. Try it this way,

565
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.920
now, try it that way.
It was hopeless. Sam. The

566
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:15.039
one time someone asked me, hey, we got a commercial where they're looking

567
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.639
for someone that sounds like Joe Escalante
from Indie one h three one, And

568
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:21.239
we thought, why don't we call
Joe Escalante from Indie one oh three one

569
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.679
and see if he would like to
audition? Like, oh, well,

570
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:28.719
I'm certainly gonna nail this, aren't. I didn't get it. It didn't

571
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.840
sound enough like Joe Escalante. Yeah, and then I had to listen to

572
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.760
the guy who got it. Did
he sound more like you than you a

573
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.400
little bit? Wow? Man?
Had to listen to him on the was

574
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.559
on. I mean, you could
see the hundreds of thousands of dollars being

575
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.760
being earned by this giant commercial.
So that's what it's like to be me.

576
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:54.760
My life is good. So yeah, okay, So the screen actress

577
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.400
guilt strike. I used to think
it was called the film actress guilt because

578
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.960
that's what they called it in Team
America, I think, but I realized

579
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.719
that's not a real that's not real's
not a real entity. No, it's

580
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:15.840
the screen actor skilled sag Aftra,
So I am sympathetic to them. I

581
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.519
think they have the better argument,
much better argument. Pay these guys.

582
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.800
Why aren't they paying them? I
think there's a little cynical shenanigans afoot.

583
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.559
They're not paying them because they want
a breather perhaps, but you're getting a

584
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.400
breather from the writers anyway, so
it really doesn't matter. So I think

585
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.360
they're maybe being toyed with. And
the real deal is this writer strike.

586
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.800
We got to solve that because they're
far apart and there's a lot of lunatics

587
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:49.840
involved about, like, you know
how far apart they are, and it's

588
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.360
pretty ugly. And the screen actorc
deal doesn't really matter. But the screen

589
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.360
actors guilled, they are, they're
I think they're enjoying this. You know,

590
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.280
they send out a thing who wants
a strike and it was like eighty

591
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.639
seven or nine, some really high
amount of people that voted to strike.

592
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:06.000
But the amount of people that work
in the screen actress guild, I mean,

593
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.360
I'm in the screen actress gild.
We just talked about how pathetic my

594
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.679
acting career is. It's made out
of thousands of those people. And then

595
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.360
a tiny fraction that actually work.
Now, there's a lot of people that

596
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.519
work that make more than the minimum
says, we're really negotiating over minimums.

597
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.679
If you are Fran Dresser and the
nanny, you know, you're making one

598
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:30.760
hundred and fifty thousand an episode.
So if they raise the minimums for actors,

599
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:36.199
give me a ten percent raise,
how much does that raise the nanny's

600
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.519
salary? Honestly, I don't know
ten percent as well. No, none,

601
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.719
because she gets over the minimum.
So you're you're going you don't that

602
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.920
doesn't apply to you're getting over the
minimum. Let me know. When you

603
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.920
know, we negotiate a contract that's
so high it surpasses your giant salary that

604
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:58.159
we give you, then this will
affect you. So they really are in

605
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.039
solidarity with the people that are are
working for minimums. So but it really

606
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:06.719
is only covering those people and those
people, you know, hats off to

607
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:08.719
the people who are losing money to
protect the guys that are that are getting

608
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:15.119
the minimum because they need it and
it's um, it's it's rough out there,

609
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:21.599
and uh, but I think the
I think the studios could just give

610
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.400
it to him, give it to
gave it to him. But I think

611
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.280
they want this breather. We'll talk
a little bit about more after we check

612
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.280
the traffic, about the breather theory, and about how far apart the writers

613
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.400
are from the studios after this.
Joe Ascolante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scolante

614
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:45.719
Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood
you mean Burbank, Uh? Yeah,

615
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.719
um. I thought that was pretty
good until he started editorializing. What does

616
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:55.519
he know about music like those like
Barbie? I like, uh, the

617
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.880
Spice Girls. That was really good. I mean really, this AI stuff,

618
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.639
for as controversial and as troubling as
it can be, it does spawn

619
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.800
a lot of entertaining moments. That
was one of them. Now, speaking

620
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.039
of Ai, Sam, the actors
are saying, you're like, we we

621
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.840
um. We read that thing earlier
that said we want to um, We're

622
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:29.559
gonna we There's a I call it
a rumor or whatever. This is what

623
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:35.719
people are saying that the sag after
his chief negotiators said um Uh proposed that

624
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.599
background performers should be able to be
scanned to get one day's pay, and

625
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:45.519
their companies should be able should be
should own that scan and the image and

626
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:46.679
their likeness, and they should be
able to use it for the rest of

627
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.519
eternity on any project they want,
with no consent and no compensation. Okay,

628
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.400
I think that was totally fake news. That's not what they proposed,

629
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.400
But they didn't propose something that might
be equally as preposterous. But it's a

630
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:06.079
little more believable that it is proposed. They proposed that, let's see,

631
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.440
youre an extra, We're gonna scan
you. Okay, make one hundred thirty

632
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.599
eight dollars a day as an extra. I'm gonna pay for one day.

633
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:15.159
We're gonna scan you, we're gonna
use you in as many scenes in that

634
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.000
movie as we want. And but
we're just gonna pay for one day,

635
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:27.519
thank you very much. Um Okay. Not only is that cheap and it's

636
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.639
just petty one hundred what's that going
to do for the studios to say,

637
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:37.599
hey, we saved one hundred and
thirty eight dollars times thousands of extras days.

638
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:44.599
That's not enough to be a sticking
point in any negotiating. It's it's

639
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.239
just like it's like, to me, it just sounds like phony bologny.

640
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:53.559
You know, it's not like scanning
them is free to scan some guy and

641
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:59.119
then you got to play some somewhere
else. That sounds a lot more expensive

642
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:05.320
than just having the guy compare corodinate
thirty eight dollars. You know, just

643
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.880
it doesn't make any sense. So
um, okay, they want, you

644
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.360
know, fifteen percent, you off
from three percent, and you can't.

645
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.079
You come out at ten percent or
whatever. Even if you pay them the

646
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:22.119
fifteen percent, I think the studios
can afford that. Paid in success,

647
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.559
that's a tricky one. We would
like to be paid in success. Well,

648
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.880
how do you measure success? Because
right now you get some kind of

649
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.000
residual for being played, but it
doesn't it doesn't you don't get any more

650
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.280
if millions of people watch it rather
than nobody. They'd say, well,

651
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.119
what if I'm going to hit the
seasons hit series like like like Stranger Things.

652
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:45.159
I want to get paid because everybody's
watching it. And the streamers are

653
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.519
like, look, let me sit
you down, tell you something. We

654
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.320
don't tell you how many people watch
these things. That's our We're not the

655
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.119
number because we don't have Nielsen.
We don't tell anybody. We don't have

656
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.440
to. We made this thing,
and let me tell you something, kiddo.

657
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:06.719
When I started Netflix, I made
a lot of money selling DVDs or

658
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:13.079
renting them. And then at some
point I switched to making programs and giving

659
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:17.360
people like you jobs, and then
I started losing money and I lost money.

660
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:25.320
I lost thirty billion dollars, kiddo, thirty billion, And now I

661
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:32.079
just started making money. Made two
million, two billion last year. Now

662
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:37.079
how much money does Disney plus they
lose money, all the other ones lose

663
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.920
money. But Netflix is now made
a thing where they're making money. So

664
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.679
yeah, I get it. You
want more of my money, and I

665
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.519
you know, I would love to
give it to you. But let's not

666
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:54.840
forget that I lost thirty billion dollars
building up this streaming empire that I have.

667
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.760
So don't act like I'm the evil
man on the hill hoarding all my

668
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.320
money, because when am I going
to get back that thirty billion? Um?

669
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.159
Eventually? Yeah, and right now
I'm sharing money with you, and

670
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:15.159
I didn't even I didn't even bring
up my thirty billion. And tell you

671
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.039
tell today when you started, you
know, complaining to me. And this

672
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.840
is me talking like if I'm if
I'm Ted Serrandos and I'm not. I'm

673
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.559
just a guy who pays fifteen dollars
a month for Netflix and I go and

674
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.960
have meetings with them, and they
don't buy my shows. So I mean,

675
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.280
you know, I've got no dog
in this hunt. But um,

676
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.440
but it is interesting. And then
it takes me back to this article about

677
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:45.920
James Gunn's brother. He was in
Gilmore Girls. He is named Sean gun

678
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:52.960
and he says, I'm here.
It is really these are its quotes.

679
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:58.800
It is really a travesty. The
actor said, studios and streamers really need

680
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.639
to rethink how you do business and
share the wealth with people. Otherwise this

681
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:07.480
is all going to come crashing down. I don't know how it's going to

682
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:14.320
come crashing down, but the actor
said, studios and streamers blah blah blah.

683
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.079
So he said that he came out
particularly because he wanted to come out

684
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.960
and protest Netflix. I was on
a television show called Gilmore Girls for a

685
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:30.320
long time that has brought in massive
profits for Netflix, he explained. It

686
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.199
has been one of the most popular
shows for a very long time, over

687
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.079
a decade. It gets streamed over
and over and over again, and I

688
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:45.159
see almost none of the revenue that
comes into that, though Netflix does stream

689
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:51.800
Gilmore Girls. The residual's gun is
referencing come from Warner Brothers Discovery studio that

690
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.239
producing licenses the series to the streamers. So that's something one thing. Netflix

691
00:55:54.280 --> 00:56:00.519
doesn't pay the royalties the studio does. That made it. So he's theared

692
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:07.760
it to complain about Netflix. Nowre's
what Netflix did do. They did take

693
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:12.719
the show the show. Was this
show syndicated into in like syndication is where

694
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:15.559
all the money's made. No,
I thought it was. No, he

695
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:20.039
was sold to cable channels. That's
not the same or it was sold to

696
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.440
It was never syndicated. It was
sold to cable channels, and that's a

697
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.360
that's a very low amount of money. I think we're up against a break,

698
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.159
but we're really getting into the weeds, Serve. I think it's interesting

699
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.440
when you find out we're like how
complicated this this whole thing is, and

700
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.360
how there's no real great answers and
why it's you know, it's kind of

701
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:42.000
sad because without any answers, how
they're going to find a solution. Joe's

702
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:47.119
Galante Live from Hollywood back after this, Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood by Hollywood,

703
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:51.400
you mean Burbank with the business end
of show Business. Every Sunday on KiB

704
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:59.239
eleven fifty on your AM dial and
one more announcement, Sam got um tickets

705
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.880
still available. I guess this is
what you're saying when your shows aren't sold

706
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:07.480
out, but you can go see
you can go all my tours at the

707
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:13.599
Punk Rock Museum in Las Vegas July
twentieth to the twenty third. There's two,

708
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.440
two tours a day, the twelve
o'clock tour and the three pm tour

709
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:28.000
um the twenty third. Also doing
tours is Fred Armison. I think of

710
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:35.480
that. Yeah, Fred Armison's tours, Sam are sold out. I don't.

711
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:40.000
I don't. I don't sense a
speck of jealousy in that. Not

712
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:45.599
jealous. My life is good.
I um. But you can still get

713
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:52.199
tickets for Joe Scalante and hopefully I'll
get some some crumbs from his popularity.

714
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.599
And then there's the Don't Forget,
also the Sweet and Tender Hooligan Sam,

715
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:04.440
Yeah, playing at the Pacific Ampi
Theater in Coasta Mesa, California as part

716
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:12.440
of the Orange County Fairs Concert Series. That's a big room, Sam,

717
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.159
it's a big room. We need
to fill that up. You know who?

718
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:22.360
I actually somebody that I met this
week that mentioned you was Zach Good.

719
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:28.039
Oh, I met. I met
with him. We were at the

720
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.239
same conference at the same time,
and I spoke with him for a good

721
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:36.199
thirty minutes at the bar after the
conference, and you came up as a

722
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.760
point of discussion, and we both
were both of us speak about you in

723
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.800
very glowing terms. Oh, that's
so good to hear. How was Zach

724
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:51.679
doing these days? He looks fantastic, good good, All right, let's

725
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:57.559
get back to the strike. Enough
of this gin wag Now Sean Gun.

726
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.199
So, I hate to pick on
Sean Gun, but it's just an example

727
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.360
of how we don't really know what
we should know, and people are always

728
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.360
in labor spoots, you know,
using emotions, complaining about things that sometimes

729
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:13.039
it's just not really. I mean, you gotta, you gotta come.

730
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.960
If you can't, if you're not, if you're talking to past people or

731
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:21.639
over their heads or under you're never
gonna reach a settlement on how this guy's

732
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.079
ever gonna be happy or if if
This is a typical voice in the screen

733
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:31.440
actors skill. Um, but he's
saying he's not um getting paid um by

734
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.880
you know, Netflix, and UM
it's been But the residuals don't come from

735
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.159
Netflix, they come from uh in
his case, I think they come from

736
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:47.239
Warner Uh, Warner Brothers Discovery.
So but he's there to protest Netflix when

737
00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:52.480
he should be protesting his studio.
And but here's what Netflix did, And

738
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.679
I told you, I asked you
did. Did this show never got syndicated?

739
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:59.360
It was on with the CW and
you know it did okay, but

740
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:01.199
it didn't know one wanted it in
the syndication market. So they sell it

741
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:05.599
to some cable channels, and the
cable channels think it's got to run over

742
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:12.000
and over and over to generate any
meaningful residuals, and it didn't, evidently,

743
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.960
and it's not really anybody's fault.
But then it goes to Netflix.

744
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:25.079
And what Netflix does is they ordered
a freaking sequel, so he got another

745
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.679
series out of it. So if
that series, you got know how many

746
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:35.480
episodes that series went, but you
know, for six episodes, I can't

747
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.480
imagine you got less than twenty five
thousand an episode, So you know,

748
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.159
he got hundreds of thousands more,
or at least one hundred and fifty thousand.

749
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:51.480
I don't know how much how long
that went on, But so Netflix

750
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.840
paid him that and revived it when
no one wanted it, they took it

751
01:00:54.239 --> 01:01:00.079
and they generated some income out of
it, and then they gave him money

752
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:07.559
and extended his career, and his
career was obviously not going. It was

753
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.760
going in a direction where when someone
said, hey, would you like to

754
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:14.760
come back and revive that old Gilmore
Girls thing, he didn't say, I

755
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:19.760
can't do that. I'm working on
a project with Martin Scorskasi at the moment,

756
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.440
you know, he said, yeah, I'll do it. That's thank

757
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.519
you, thank you for the work, and he took it. And now

758
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:29.360
he's coming here saying I'm protesting Netflix, like Netflix is the big villain.

759
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.039
I mean, Netflix has a lot
of faults, but yeah, they lost

760
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:36.920
thirty billion dollars creating this program,
so you know some for people think of

761
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.079
and I'm you know, I'm on
the actor's side on this. I think

762
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.039
they should get more money. But
you can't be running around saying things that

763
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.800
just aren't true. And then he
said they are running around giving each other

764
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:53.239
bonuses and hundreds of millions of dollars. Then the finally the Holliday reporter had

765
01:01:53.280 --> 01:02:00.599
to correct that the bonuses that he
was saying the executives were getting Alix were

766
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:07.800
a result of them, you know, selling stock that they have stock,

767
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:12.400
they could sell it so completely wasn't
true. It was it was a manufactured,

768
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:19.360
villainous activity that didn't happen. Do
you know it? At Netflix you

769
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.000
can either get paid in stock or
cash. So interesting. Yeah, so

770
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.880
some people have become wildly rich by
say, well, you know what,

771
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.320
I decided to get paid in stock, and then when it went up three

772
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:34.159
hundred times, you can imagine what
happened to those people. Other people said

773
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.239
I need the money. You have
bills to pay. But evidently when you

774
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:45.360
go to a meeting and then Ted
Serrandos is in there and you're he knows

775
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.519
whether you're a stock employee or a
cash employee, and if you're a cash

776
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:53.760
employee, who's gonna listen to you? Yeah, you know, dedicated.

777
01:02:54.639 --> 01:03:00.360
So m Yeah, a lot of
fascinating things about the strife. Now the

778
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.599
writers, So anyways, the actors, what are they're doing. They're just

779
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:07.880
like, you know, they're coming
up with all this stuff. It's all

780
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:12.760
true. They should get more the
AI stuff. You got to remember this

781
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.159
too about AI. I don't need
you just to scan. They're saying,

782
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.719
I don't want you to scan me
and use me in other scenes and stuff,

783
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.880
you know. And I'm saying that's
a kind of a false flag because

784
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.039
I don't think they're serious about that, because they's cheaper to get a human

785
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:32.440
to come in another day than to
scan him and put him in something.

786
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:37.519
Yeah, there might be a thing
where they want to scan him and say

787
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:39.679
we're going to put you in Ethiopia, and we can't bring you to Ethiopia.

788
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:44.559
Okay, we can argue about that, but that's still gonna be very

789
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:52.639
expensive for them. So let's not
forget though that they don't need to use

790
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.440
extras anymore really for a lot of
crowd scenes, because you can make AI

791
01:03:55.480 --> 01:04:00.960
people that aren't that aren't people that
are manufacturing. I've seen the AI people,

792
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.360
Sam, Yes, people that don't
exist, and they and they and

793
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.360
they're always being created and they're copy
and pasted. Yeah, and so you

794
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.679
can. You can you've seen if
you've seen any arena scenes in a movie

795
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.880
lately, you know, they got
like one patch of people and they just

796
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.760
copy and paste them until they have
a full arena. And you can even

797
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:19.599
look at them sometimes say Okay,
I'm right over here, I see the

798
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:24.239
yellow shirt next to the pink shirt
and then you can look around and go

799
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.000
yellow shirt next to pink shirt,
and it's you can see it was copy

800
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.920
and pasted all over the arena.
They can do that with no actors.

801
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:35.840
I don't know if if they could
ever say you can't do that, that

802
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:40.480
would be a tough argument. But
that would get more actors work. But

803
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.400
I don't know how realistic it is, but they should get more money and

804
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.039
can they get paid in success Well, as we were talking about before,

805
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:54.719
they don't give you their metrics.
So that's a hard one. If you're

806
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:59.079
on if you're on Stranger Things and
you get a residual because it gets plaid

807
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:00.320
so many more times, you don't
ge don't you don't get a bigger one,

808
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.199
but you do get to negotiate.
I'm on Stranger Things, I have

809
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:09.639
a headache. I want my agent
just uh it wants a new deal.

810
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.679
You know, because you have that
kind of leverage, that's your success.

811
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:15.880
I think that's what they're that's the
other side of the argument. Your success

812
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.480
metric is when you're on a successful
show, you will be able to renegotiate

813
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:23.480
for a higher salary. But if
you're right now, if you're on a

814
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.639
terrible show, you're going to get
paid the same residual from Netflix whatever it's

815
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.559
called them that you're going to get
paid if you're on a successful show.

816
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.280
They want a bump for success.
And but then they would have to say,

817
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:36.599
well, then i'd have to tell
you how many times people view it.

818
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:39.559
I don't have to do that,
and I don't want to do that

819
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:42.159
and it's not part of my business
model. And they go, well,

820
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:46.559
then you should use this a neutral
system called Paradanalytics. That's what the guilds

821
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:51.239
are saying. There's a company called
Paradanalytics, and they are the ones that

822
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:56.079
come up with these lists of what's
in demand. So they don't use just

823
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.760
views because they don't have access to
that, So they use like other metrics

824
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:11.199
of Internet, like presence on the
Internet and mentions and searches and stuff like

825
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.000
that. Who gets paid from the
merchandise because Stranger Things makes a lot of

826
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.840
money from the merchandise, T shirts, games, things like that, right,

827
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:25.360
Um, Usually all the TV deals
that I negotiated for merchandise were always

828
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:29.800
two and a half percent of the
net profit. Now net profit that was

829
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.440
just our studio. What we did
at CBS net profit and you didn't give

830
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:35.360
it to everybody's somebody you feel someone
was really big, you might give them

831
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:39.000
that and they might say, I
want five percent of the net profit.

832
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.960
Okay, two percent of the knife
is probably gonna be nothing anyway, because

833
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:46.559
especially the merchandise and TV shows.
Stranger Things is an exception because that stuff

834
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.960
is all over the place, but
most stuff is like by the time you

835
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:58.039
you you you deal with the costs
of printing and distribution and discounting and free

836
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:03.199
goods and damage goods and lost goods
and returned items. TV merchandise doesn't sell

837
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.320
that much, you're not going to
make very much. And and so what

838
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:11.320
they do is they'll lod just the
gross down the net. They'll just that

839
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:14.719
net down because there's so many costs
involved. By the time you get it,

840
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:18.440
it's not very much. Now.
In Stranger Things, when you those

841
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.360
kids, probably in the beginning he
didn't get any. But then after a

842
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:25.199
while, you know, if you're
renegotiating, then you're gonna say, oh,

843
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:28.199
I want March, and they're gonna
give you something that's pretty crappy because

844
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:32.519
there's not a lot of money in
merch anyway, So people aren't fighting over

845
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:36.880
it. And Stranger Things is special, so they might fight over it a

846
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:45.800
little more, but it'll still never
be that much. But you were success

847
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.519
metric, the studios would argue,
is when you're getting more money, you're

848
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:54.719
not even in the minimums anymore.
You're getting five hundred thousand a million in

849
01:07:54.760 --> 01:08:00.280
episode, two million an episode,
So that's that's your success metric. But

850
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:04.599
what about the low guy? Can
he get more for a show that's played

851
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:13.719
um way more than another show?
Um, it's gonna be hard, uh,

852
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:15.720
but you know they can. They
can argue about that, fear something

853
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:23.680
else. So now we got Now
we'll go to how far apart the writers

854
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:25.760
are. We want to take a
break real quick and then come back to

855
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.199
it. Yeah, we'll come back
to that, Okay. Joeyscalante Live from

856
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:38.159
Hollywood, back after traffic, Joecalante
Live from Hollywood. That's the show.

857
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:47.039
We're here every Sunday, k ibn
Am Dial and the podcasts get put up

858
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.760
on Sunday nights after the show.
As soon as we think of a clever

859
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:56.479
name. What was the name of
last week's Oh jeez, what was last

860
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:00.760
week's Something about Sound of Freedom?
No, we were going to do Sound

861
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:06.439
of Freedom and then we did um
fomo remember yeah, So well geez,

862
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:12.640
yeah, did you post it?
I did post it? Did you really

863
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:19.439
though? I really did? Okay, it was fomo something fomo. Okay,

864
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:26.359
that was clever, so clever.
I forgot it already. Okay,

865
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.920
I'll have the name of the second
all right, Well we're talking about the

866
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.159
strike Ladies and Gentlemen of America.
Oh yeah, so it was Juggalo fomo,

867
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:43.359
Juggalo fomo. And I think we
only mentioned the the juggalo like conference

868
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.880
that they had, the four day
long thing. I think we only mentioned

869
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.560
it for like thirty seconds. It
was probably thirty seconds too much, but

870
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:53.800
it was a great title. Yeah, okay, so the strike, Um,

871
01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:01.720
let's go to the writers' we've belabored
the enough. Now the writers that's

872
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:08.880
a real strike because the actors,
I mean, they're showing some solidarity and

873
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:15.600
showing support. And you could argue, a we could bring in non union

874
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.600
writers, but then you gotta bring
in non union directors I mean actors.

875
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.760
I mean, what's going on and
what kind of director is going to want

876
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:24.000
to work on that? You know? And the directors Guild has a deal.

877
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:30.439
They made their deal. Writers,
Um, you know, same thing.

878
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.800
They want money, they want more
resistent duels, they want hire,

879
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:42.600
they want success metrics, they want
writers rooms, and it starts getting like

880
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.439
really serious, you want you want
writers writers rooms? Like right now,

881
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:49.319
you know, I can make a
show like I make my show with one

882
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:53.399
writer and it's me. If I
was um, if they had their way,

883
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:55.600
they'd say, Joe has to hire
a room full of writers, and

884
01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:01.560
he has to hire this many and
otherwise we don't work. And the studios,

885
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.239
you guys have to do. Yeah, you have to make it's who

886
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:10.920
we have a living wage and where
we're working all year long and all this

887
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:14.840
you know sounds fair? Um,
I don't know, you know, like

888
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.760
I said, the breather concept,
the breath I believe in this. The

889
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:25.680
studios want this strike because it allows
them to breathe and catch up with all

890
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:29.840
the money they've been spending. And
then they can you know, they just

891
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:33.000
need it. And then they'll come
back and they'll do something. I think

892
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:36.800
they'll give the actors more of what
they want, but the writers. So

893
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:42.359
it gets a little trickier because you
start to be well, you can't develop

894
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:46.359
shows unless you pay for every every
time you turn around, you gotta pay

895
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:48.840
somebody. But also they try to
get a lot of free work out of

896
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:51.119
the actors, I mean out of
the writers. And they say, come

897
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.880
in for another meeting. Now do
this, now do this. I'll tell

898
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.399
you what we don't. We don't
want to have sixteen writers on TV shows

899
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:04.479
anymore. We're gonna hire six writers
to bang out outlines for ten episode.

900
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.279
You guys sit around and tell me
what these characters are gonna do all ten

901
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:12.520
episodes. Six people get together and
they go, okay, the characters in

902
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:18.720
episode one, like the Mandalorian's gonna
take the child and he's gonna take him

903
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:25.199
to another planet and he's gonna lose
him. And then they're gonna put a

904
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:31.359
fake child who's an infiltrator and in
his place, and then he thinks that's

905
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:34.920
the real child, but he's the
wrong one, and then that causes problems.

906
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:39.159
Now we're gonna follow this. The
real child's going to go off and

907
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.800
do all these things. Now the
fake child is causing chaos and havoc with

908
01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.840
the Mandalorian over here, and they're
figuring all these A and B stories And

909
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.239
then they do okay, and they
just make an outline it for ten and

910
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.760
then they get handed in and the
people look at it and they go,

911
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:56.119
okay, there's ten episodes. That's
pretty good. All right, I'll start

912
01:12:56.159 --> 01:13:00.359
writing him, maybe him and one
other guy or girl. Now you paid

913
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:04.399
those guys just for two weeks,
and you and I could hash out ten

914
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:08.880
episodes of Mandalorian in two weeks of
full time works and got coming in here

915
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:11.239
every day and just hashing them out, and it's some mo ountlines. We

916
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.359
could do that. It'd be pretty
good. Yeah, I think we could.

917
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.119
Yeah, and then we give it
to those guys and they would and

918
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:20.680
two guys would would would write them. All those guys are on salary anyway,

919
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:28.720
they're like getting the executive producer fees. Now these like working class writers

920
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:31.800
only worked for two weeks when normally
they'd be working for months. Yeah.

921
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:36.880
So but the studio saved a ton
of money and now they're can say,

922
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.079
now we can order more shows,
and now we can do all this stuff.

923
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.119
So it's going to be hard.
It's really complicated, and you know,

924
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:50.680
getting success metrics all that stuff.
I just I And then new rumor

925
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:56.479
going around is that these studios.
I don't believe anyone said this, but

926
01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:59.760
Deadline is reporting that someone said it. They're going to starve these people,

927
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.880
and they're gonna and then when they
are starving, because we got plenty of

928
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:06.239
content, when they come back,
they're going to go to their leadership and

929
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:10.199
say, if this thing goes past
Christmas, I'm gonna lose my house.

930
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:13.920
I'm not gonna have a Christmas for
my kids. Come to the barting table

931
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:15.479
and just make it back. Go
well, whatever, just get production going.

932
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.159
I don't care about all these things
that I thought I cared about.

933
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:25.319
Get production going. And then now
I think that's might be overly cynical,

934
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:32.279
But some Deadline is reporting that that's
what some insiders said. So do we

935
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:36.319
know. We don't know, but
we do know it's going to be ugly.

936
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.720
And I don't think the writers.
I think the writers are gonna have

937
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.600
to come back. I mean,
I don't know. Nobody really knows.

938
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.319
Who knows. All right, let's
leave that behind us in the music department

939
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:54.600
A couple. I have a couple
more stories. The Federal Reserve says Taylor

940
01:14:54.640 --> 01:15:02.800
Swift's Eras tour is so massive it's
boosting the economy. Yeah, The Philadelphia

941
01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:10.239
Federal Reserve has announced that Swift is
literally hoisting the hotel industry on her back

942
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:14.439
and boosting revenue in that sector for
the first time since the beginning of the

943
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:20.439
coronavirus pandemic in the year twenty twenty. Central Bank released its Beige Book on

944
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:25.960
Wednesday, in which officials said the
hotel bookings had their strongest growth in years

945
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:32.560
thanks to swifties. Goes on and
on and on about that. Another news

946
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:39.159
handwritten document found in a Wretha Franklin's
couch has been ruled to be a valid

947
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:44.600
will. Wow. Yeah. Two
documents found in a cabinet and couch of

948
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.640
the later Eretha Franklin, which caused
rifts in the family since twenty eighteen,

949
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:53.520
have cut under the spotlight, and
the singer's handwritten will found in her couch

950
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:57.479
after her death is a valid Michigan
will. A jury said, you know,

951
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:02.479
for will's like you know, witnessed
and accurately states the intentions of the

952
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:09.920
deceased. It can be, it
can be voud be handwritten holographic will,

953
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:13.199
I think that's what they call it. But stuffed in a couch, why

954
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.279
not? So that could be some
foul play. Well, And that's the

955
01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:19.079
thing. If there was a witness
to it and stuff like that, then

956
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:25.800
how is I I can't see a
scenario where there's a witness to that that

957
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.960
ends up with that will inside of
a couch. Will you witness a will

958
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.600
and then the person takes it and
then they do what they will with it,

959
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.760
get it and they and they go
and they and they die on the

960
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.920
couch and or no, you know, they stuff in the couch, just

961
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:43.960
get stuffed into couch. A housekeeper, errant housekeeper. There's some foul play

962
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.600
here somewhere, Sam, I know. But um, for right now,

963
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:49.239
I'll tell you what. I'll get
more into that case, and I'm going

964
01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:54.880
to come back tomorrow or next week
and we'll I'm that kind of an expert

965
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:59.159
on wills, consulting with legal Zoom
for as long as I did. But

966
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:00.680
I want to get to these other
stories. We'll get back to them.

967
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:06.159
Lisa Murray Pressley's cause of death has
been revealed. She had weight loss surgery

968
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:12.000
and complications that were known like that
they would tell you you might have this

969
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.159
might happen to you if you have
this weight loss surgery and blockage in her

970
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:24.479
you know, digestive tract, small
bowel obstruction. So our prayers are with

971
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:29.800
her family. And that's pretty sad, but don't get you. Gotta just

972
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.000
my advice live with what God gave
you naturally. Heal your body whenever you

973
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:43.199
can, and don't have weight loss
surgery if you're just don't unless you're going

974
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.960
to die from I never saw Lisa
mur Repressley so overweight she was going to

975
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:53.159
die, So you know, I
hope people around her, or people around

976
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:58.920
you. Listener, we'll talk you
about of that. Sam. I don't

977
01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:02.560
want you getting any weight loss surgery
either. I won't. I promise Lady

978
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.680
Gaga will not have to pay five
hundred thousand dollars reward to the woman who

979
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:13.479
conspired to steal her dog. The
lady said she was gonna I mean,

980
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.800
she gave up and took the dog
back and like, and then said,

981
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.680
okay, I don't want to go
to jail because someone got shot, and

982
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:25.680
then she wanted to reward. Joe
Scalante Live from Hollywood, leaving you with

983
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:27.560
pretty much nothing until next week