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And tonight we have for you our
June twenty twenty four primary forum, and

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tonight is being brought to you by
Phillip sixty six and Susie Hughes Vintage mal

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Tonight, we're going to have three
different forums all wrapped up pretty much in

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one. We're going to start with
our county commissioners. We'll then speak to

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our senator and also we will have
for you our District ten contenders. And

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once again, this is a forum
and not a debate. All of our

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participants will be given the same question
to answer. Now, we do have

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a few rules here to let everybody
know that we do have opening and closing

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statements. There'll be three minutes each, so you're going to have a good

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long time to absorb a little bit
of the candidates and what they stand for

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and what they're all about. And
each candidate will have two minutes to answer

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each question. And once again we
are ready to roll here in just a

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little bit. We have our timekeeper
tonight, and that is Nathan Thompson,

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our news director, and he's got
our little flash cards here, so he'll

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tell me when to hush up as
well. Before we get started. I'd

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like for us to all stand for
the pledge of allegiance, man, my

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the Bubbly

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which it says, one Nation under
God, indivisible with liberty as straw.

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Thank you. We do have questions
and we will begin here in just a

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moment. Once again, I want
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ninety three point three and ninety five
point one, and then again our

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sponsors Phillip sixty six and Susan Cues
Vintage Ball and we had a drawing.

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CEO goes first and Michael Cole,
Yeah, lucky recipient of NUMROO. So

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you get to first of all,
tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Your opening statement begins now. Thank
you, tom. My name is Michael

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Cohlaw. I am a thirty four
year resident of Washington County here in Bartlesville.

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I was born and raised in Enid, Oklahoma, in a pastor's home.

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I watched my dad serve our community
on two separate occasions as a member

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of the ended school board, and
so service to the community was something that

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was modeled for me in the home
that I grew up in. When I

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came here to go to college in
nineteen ninety I went to Oklahoma Wesley University

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degree in pastoral ministry. Spent the
next seventeen years working in the church world

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in pastoral ministry, whether that be
a youth pastor, a college pastor,

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music pastor transitioning to working at the
university where I served as the pastor for

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campus ministries, served as a professor
in the School of Religion there, worked

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for an administrative office in the Wesleyan
Church. So seventeen years in pastoral ministry,

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and then a transition happened where I
began working in the corporate world thirteen

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years since then in oil and gas
and banking. And I feel that being

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a candidate for this position, I'm
uniquely positioned with the skill set of working

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with people for so many years.
Seventeen years in pastoral ministry allowed me to

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work with so many different people of
so many different backgrounds, and then being

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thrust into the world of corporate America, where I was fortunate enough to work

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in finance for those thirteen years and
have learned the financial management skills, the

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financial acumen. The analysis skills.
So it's a coupling of relationships, leadership,

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and financial management that I believe uniquely
positions me as the best potential candidate

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for Washington County Commissioner District two.
And I'm glad to be here tonight and

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to answer any questions that we will
have. All Right, thank you very

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much, Corey Shovel, you are
now ready your role my friend. Okay,

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all right, thank you, thanks
for having us, and thank thank

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everybody for coming. I'm Corey Shivel, running for Washington County District two Commissioner.

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I have worked with Washington County for
twenty eight and a half years.

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I am currently the supervisor of the
Roads and Bridges have been for the past

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fourteen years. I am a graduate
of Oklahoma State Road Management Program. I

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have twenty eight year safety achievement.
I have supervised eight new bridge projects.

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I've been a part of building miles
and miles of roads as well as resurfacing

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miles and miles of roads. As
a supervisor, I have taken on many

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responsibilities that include assessing roads and bridges, overseeing the upkeep on equipment and the

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buildings of our department. In District
three is where I work, tracking inventory,

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managing personnel, and assisting the commissioner
in the budget of that department.

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And with that I have I have
made a I have a good working relationship

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with the commissioner, so I am
able to see the day to day duties

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of their job. And all of
this I feel like plays a great part

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in my ability to know the job
on day one. I have a great

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understanding of the budget process. I
have attended, I have attended budget board

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meetings, I've attended commissioner meetings.
I know where the money comes from.

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I know where the money goes.
So I am simply running on my experience

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and my knowledge, and I look
forward to continuing the management of the resources

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effectively and efficiently. Thank you very
much, mister Darrel Worley. Tell us

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about yourself well. Thank you Tom, Thank everybody for being here. Thank

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Kaywan for putting this on. Yeah. I was born in Cladmore, Oklahoma.

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I was raised in a rural area
about halfway between Clamwoar and Prior and

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I attended Sequoia Schools and graduated in
nineteen seventy three. I worked on area

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ranches and as a carpenter for about
ten years or maybe a little longer,

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and then I decided that I needed
to go to college and try to do

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a little better for myself. I
received my bachelor's degree from Northeastern State in

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nineteen eighty nine. I passed the
examination to be a professional engineer in nineteen

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ninety nine. Since then, I've
worked as an engineer or a project manager.

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Most of my project manager experience has
been in road building or environmental remediation.

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I have overseen projects with very large
budgets in both the private and public

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sectors, and as an engineer and
project manager, I currently run a one

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man engineering consulting business and have since
twenty fifteen. I worked in the engineering

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department for the City of Bartlesville for
eight years. I was a city lead

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for Operation Clean House for seven of
those years. I am a Christian and

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my wife, Sandy, and I
have been attending First Lesleyan Church for twenty

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plus years. My biblical worldview is
very important to me. I am vice

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currently Vice chairman of Precinct eleven,
and I have been a Precinct officer multiple

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times since two thousand and seven,
which is when we moved to our new

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where we're located now. I have
been preparing for a position as a county

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commissioner all of my life. It
is because of these previous diverse experience I

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believe I am the most qualified to
be the next district to Washington County commissioner.

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Thank you, Thank you very much. Nice to get to everybody kind

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of acquainted with one another before we
have our conversation. Some people call it

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a form, but we're having a
discussion here tonight. We're all among friends.

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We're going to start off with the
first question, and it's going to

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go to Cory. Now, these
are questions that have been submitted by you.

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I didn't write them, but we
did have to modify some of these,

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and we didn't use all of them
because, quite honestly, we just

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didn't have enough time. You guys
are so good at putting these questions in.

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Some of it actually been merged.
This one is a very personal one

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that came in Corey. It says, I live in a rural area with

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a gravel road. What would be
your plan for a good road maintenance for

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a gravel road? Well, if
you know, if the road continues to

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stay gravel, Uh, you know, we assess these roads. I as

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as the road form and I try
to drive these roads once a week,

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and I'm I'm not gonna lie to
you. I don't make every road once

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a week. We have one hundred
and eighty six miles in District three that

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I am the supervisor of. But
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hit these at least once every two
weeks. So if it's if it is

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a gravel road, obviously we're gonna
we're gonna grade that road. We're gonna

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maintain it to the best of our
ability. We weather dictates everything that we

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do. You you cannot plan any
kind of a grading schedule because if it

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rains a lot, we may grade
that road two maybe three times a month.

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If it is hot and dry in
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grade that road. If there's potholes, we'll we will go out and and

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you know, we will hit the
potholes get them graded out, but we

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we will not grade the entire road
because it just creates more dust and people,

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I tell you, people do not
like dust. So yeah, that

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that would be That would be my
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All right, same question to you, mister Worleye. I live in a

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rural area with a gravel road and
what would your plan be for a good

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road maintenance on a gravel road.
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set up a schedule for maintenance.
We would, of course, we would

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be checking the roads on a regular
basis, as Corey said, but when

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we go out through the grating,
water is what kills those roads. You've

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got to make the drainage right.
If you're going to keep a road and

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it'll make a difference with its gravel
or or asphalt, you've got to make

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sure the darnings is correct. Very
good and to you, mister Cola,

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I live in a rural area of
the gravel road. What would be your

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plan for a good road maintenance for
a gravel road. Well, to reiterate,

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I do believe that grading the road
is imperative, and as mister Chivel

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said, you have to go out
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them. But as a county commissioner, it would be my responsibility to work

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with our road foreman, to work
with our crew to make sure that they

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have everything that they need in order
to make sure that these roads are graded,

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that they have the gravel they need, the right type of gravel they

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need for these roads to keep them
in the proper state that they should be

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in for a safe environment, and
as well for the constituents on their roads.

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Alrighty, our next question is,
and it's gonna good, it's going

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to go to Darryl, how will
you reduce spending? And we're toward leaner

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budgets? Well, last night we
all had a forum and we kind of

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got similar questions. I've been looking
at that today. One thing I think

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I would look at to begin with, and probably I'm not saying that could

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happen, is look at some privatization
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the personnel and maybe look for having
contractors. Of course it had to be

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with bids and we'd have to show
that we would save money, but that

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would be one of the things I
would look at. Okay, very good

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to you and mister Kla. How
will you reduce spending and have leaner budgets?

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So, first of all, I
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what we have and what the different
line items are appropriated to figure out where

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we are being ineffective, where we're
being inefficient. I've had the opportunity to

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talk with people who live in District
two and people who work in District two,

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and I think it's imperative for us, all three county commissioners to work

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together, or if we're going to
buy gravel, let's work together on a

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bid to buy gravel from the same
location so that then we'll get it at

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a reduced cost rather than buying gravel
from a different location based upon the district

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that you work in. So that's
one way specifically that I think we could

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lower costs for the district. Again, it's about being effective. It's about

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being efficient with our resources and the
time and the main or the equipment that

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we have. And to you,
Corey, Corey Shivel, how will you

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reduce spending and have leaner budgets?
Okay, well, I guess advantage me

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I have. I've been in budget
board meetings. I see the budget.

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I know what we have. The
money that we receive is what operates the

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county and there's really nothing more or
nothing less to that. I don't see

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that there is any kind of overspending
on anything from the experience that I have

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had that I have so as far
as reducing spending, I'm very open minded

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and if someone can show us where
we are overspending, and we could fix

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that. I would be all in
favor of that. Very good. We

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go back to Michael Cohlaugh here for
next question. Being a county commissioner,

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many people seem to think it's roads, roads, bridges, and roads,

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but it's not. How do you
see the position of county commissioner. I

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see the position of county commissioner as
the chief administrator and manager of everything that

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happens within the county. You are
correct. I do believe most people think

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roads and bridges when they think about
a county commissioner. That is a portion

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of the job. The job is
working with the other elected officials, working

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with hired people or individuals who live
or work in the county. We set

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the budget in Washington County. We
have a budget board, and so the

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county commissioners are the chairman of that
budget board. They again are the chief

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administrators of everything that happens in the
county. If we need more money for

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our Sheriff's department, it's going to
go through the county commissioners, our county

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fair grounds, our county Courthouse,
the annex building just next to it behind

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us here. So they are the
chief administrators of everything that happens in the

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county and it is their job to
be the stewards of the tax dollars and

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to do that to the best of
their ability. Very good, Corey Chivel.

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Do you more than just roads?
How do you see the position of

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county commissioner? Yeah, I would
echo what mister Colaw has said. He's

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done his homework over there. Good
for you. Yeah, you know that

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the county commissioner, they oversee the
upkeep on all of the buildings that they

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have. There's there's the Sheriff's department, there's the fair grounds, there's the

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administrative building, there's the courthouse.
I mean, there's a lot of property

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that that has to have upkeep constantly. So there's that, and then you

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know, as as mister Kohla was
saying, they are they're on the budget

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board, they have their commissioner meetings, they are approving purchase orders, they're

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approving payroll, they're approving salaries,
they are awarding contracts. So yes,

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there is there's a lot more to
roads and bridges. Although I would I

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would disagree about the ten percent roads
and bridges. I've heard that many times.

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I think I think that is a
big, a big part of their

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job. You know, that is
a that is over a one point five

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million dollar budget that that one commissioner
has total control over. So I think

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that warrants a pretty good percentage of
his maybe not physical but mental attention.

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And so yeah, I'll leave it. I'll leave it there. I'm getting

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a yellow sign. I'm kind of
proud of that, mister Daryl Worley.

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Again, more than just roads.
How do you see the position of county

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commissioner? Well, I believe that
as a board of county commissioners, they

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can act as the strong mayor for
the whole county. Yeah. If you

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know what a strong mayor system of
government is that they are in charge of

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all the administration and the buck stops
with them. All right, very good,

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We're going to go on to Corey
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county government and being a commissioner,
how do you see the expansion of certain

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things like say maybe a new facility, perhaps an expo center or something like

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that. How do you perceive seeing
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in your purview or your plans?
Sure, yeah, I know that the

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commissioners were working on an expo building. I think the biggest question on that

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is can it be self sufficient?
How is it going to, you know,

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pay for itself? Can it pay
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hundred percent open to that. I
think it would be a great thing for

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Washington County. I think it would
bring in outsiders who's going to spend money

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in our county. I think that's
wonderful. I would like to see a

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proposal as far as are we going
to be able to fill that facility week

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in and week out? And will
it pay for itself? Very good?

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Same question to you, mister Willie, how do you see the expansion possibly

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of something like the new facility as
a commissioner along the lines of an expot

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building, say well, I'm a
big believer in the free market, and

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I believe that the government should stay
in their lane and the capitalism should stay

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in their lane. I would not
be for a have an expost center.

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Very good, same question. So
this comes up a possible expansion of facilities,

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say an exposed center. Where would
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Well, again, as mister Chivell
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it and it was definitely a very
hot conversation topic for quite wayside and doesn't

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look like at this point time it
would come to profession. I would not

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have a problem with a new expo
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burden, an additional tax burden on
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would agree one hundred percent with what
mister Chivel said. We would need to

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fill that each and every weekend.
We would need to see an economic impact

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on our community, a positive economic
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to fully support that. But if
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find the proposal, and we could
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a way to do that, I
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Okay, It's true, Worley,
and this comes from someone who's seen a

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lot of signs. Okay, as
a commissioner, do you support the laws

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of the state of Oklahoma, specifically
I dot, and if so, have

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you made sure that none of your
signs violate the placement along the highway rights

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of ways. I've done my best. My wife is the biggest sign put

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outer that I have. I've given
her a certain's instructions that not used and

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not the end to stay on the
right of way, not to put them

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in people's yards. All right,
mister Cola, I would absolutely say I

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respect all of those laws. You
will not find a sign of mind that

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is not placed where someone has requested
or why I have requested and received permission

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to put a sign at that location. Mister Schill, absolutely, I echo

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what mister Coe Law says. Every
sign that I have out, I have

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either been asked to put a sign
there, or I have asked to put

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a sign there, or they have
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And if I'm nearly one hundred percent
certain that they have not put them

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where, they're not supposed to be
very good for our closing statements here,

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and we are going to start off. Where is Keeler here? Where do

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we go here? Okay, Daryl, it's time for your closing statement here,

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So you have three minutes. Okay, I do on get three minutes.

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My life experiences and education have prepared
me to be a county commissioner.

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I am running on a platform of
property rights, individual rights, and election

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integrity. Property. Property and individual
rights are granted by God. They are

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not granted by the governments. The
Constitution are to ensure those rights are not

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violated by the government at any level. I've read and marked up the Republican

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Platform. The reason to say to
all this that I know the people.

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Let the people know that I will
support the principles stated in that platform.

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In all my deliberations, I will
use biblical principles, principles found in the

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US Constitution, the Yoklahoma Constitution,
and I will take my oath to preserve

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and protect the constitutions very seriously.
While I have no evidence to suspect voter

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fraud has occurred in Worston County,
I do believe the elections can be made

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more transparent. I believe all elections
should be open to independent audits, and

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I would be in favor of handcounts
at precinct level with observers loud. I

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also believe the results of all malian
and early voting ballots should be putted in

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the first fifteen minutes following the close
of the actual precincts. In my working

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career, I've always prided myself in
being able to communicate and work with all

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people, from the labor and the
ditch, to the chairman of the company

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to the mayor of the city.
I have always been able to come to

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an understanding with people without compromising my
principles. I will not be afraid to

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be the lone descending book on an
issue that is important to protect the rights

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of the people. When elected,
I will serve my con constituents to the

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best of my ability. And in
closing, I ask you for your support

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in the upcoming election. Thank you
very much, Krey Chivel your closing stevements.

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Okay, I'm going to keep this
on the county commissioner level here and

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go with What makes me the best
candidate for this job is my experience and

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knowledge. I work well with others. I have built good relationship relationships with

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the people that I work with and
with the people that I will be working

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with. I am invested with the
county. I care about the future of

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the county. I am committed.
I have the ability to talk to people

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and the ability to answer their questions, and most importantly, I have the

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ability to listen to people. So
that is why I feel like I am

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the best candidate for this job and
with one hundred percent appreciate your support and

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vote on June eighteenth. Thank you. Thank you, Michael Colach, your

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closing statement. Please, First of
all, I'd like to thank you Tom

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for moderating tonight, thank you Bartseol
Radio, Potter family for hosting and putting

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on this forum tonight. And I
would be remiss if I did not thank

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the Washington County Republican Party for the
forum that they hosted last night, as

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well as the Washington County Republican and
other Conservatives who hosted a forum a week

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ago. Thank you very much for
allowing us all to have the opportunity to

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share. I believe I'm the best
candidate for this position because for me,

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this is first infantionment understanding financial management, understanding setting button airing to budgets,

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and being stewards of the taxpayer dollars. It's about leadership. And when I

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say young age, I mean in
my twenties, I was thrust into leadership

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positions I wasn't expected to be in. And I've led teams of one,

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teams of three, teams of two
hundred, and I do not have a

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problem working with people. The Greeks
have a word for service and it's called

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do loss. Do loss is translated
servant leader, and so leadership for me

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is about serving the people. It's
about working with the people who are around

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you, which leads me to the
final thing, and that is relationships.

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Relationships are so very important in life. We have to have proper relationships with

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those around us. We have to
be able to get along with people that

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we don't agree with and have decorum
and have upright relationships with them. It

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has been a privilege to go through
this campaign and to get to know mister

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Chivell. I've known mister Worthley for
years and years and years and we were

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neighbors. It has been a very
civil and respectful campaign. I'm grateful for

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that. And so relationships and building
those relationships with the constituents, building relationships

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with the other commissioners, with the
other elected officials and those who work within

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the county is imperative to being a
good county commissioner. And so I think

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all of that sets me apart to
be the ideal candidate. And I again

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would appreciate your vote on Tuesday,
June eighteenth, Thank you very much.

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A reminder that we do have early
voting that takes place on Thursday and Friday

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upstairs, fourth floor, can't miss
it, and also on Saturday as well,

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and then of course on the traditional
election day would be Tuesday the eighteenth.

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Also, want to thank all of
you for being up here with us

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here voters. You got your work
cut out for you. These are three

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fine men and they all present very
well tonight. Let's give them all a

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hand. Will be right back after
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R Forum and I like I'm traveling
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one and on k ONETV dot com, Apple TV and Roku. And once

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again we have Senator Daniels here tonight
for our forum. And first of all,

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Senator, we're going to start you
up with your opening statement. You

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have three minutes to address the crowd. Thank you Tom, Thank you kwo

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In and the city for allowing us
to use the City Council chamber, and

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everyone here in the live audience.
My name is Julie Daniels, and I'm

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a candidate for State Senate to represent
Washington, Nowada and the northern half of

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Rogers County. Government of Buying for
the People is about people. This entire

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job is about people. It's the
eighty four thousand different residents who live in

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this district, many of them Native
Oklahomas. Many more I'm discovering recent transplants

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to the state of Oklahoma. Just
this week, I've met someone from Missouri

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and Colorado and a Native San Franciscan, all of whom have chosen our state

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as their residence because we represent the
values that they hold. Dear. We

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believe in limited government, we believe
in attracting business and having strong jobs.

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We are a really attractive place for
people to want to come. And part

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of this was COVID, but many
others are coming just because they've reached a

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stage in life that they want to
go someplace where they feel that they are

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unfettered, they can live more freely
and express themselves more freely than where they

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were before, and for that reason
they've come to my state. I'm a

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native Oklahoma, born and raised in
Oklahoma City. I graduated from the University

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of Oklahoma. I attended my first
year of law school there before I married

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Charlie, who will be here in
a moment. He's been out all day

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doing his thing. Forty six years
ago and he was a lawyer for Phillips

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Petroleum Company. So I moved up
here and commuted to the University of Tulsa.

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For the last two years of law
school, I interned with the DA's

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office. I wanted to be an
assistant district attorney. That may be still

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why I have some feeling for the
das and what they do. But Charlie

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got transferred to London so we went
there immediately after I took my last final

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exam, and we came back nine
years later with two little boys, and

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I decided that, being out of
Bartlesville for almost a decade and wanting to

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stay home and raise my kids,
that I would take advantage of, as

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you all know in this audience,
the multitude of opportunities in this community to

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be of service as a volunteer,
whether it was in the school's parents support

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group, band orchestra, choir,
booster club, many nonprofits, including my

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beloved Boys and Girls Club, and
then coming here and sitting behind this table

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for eight years, a couple of
years in Tom's seed as mayor and serving

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on our city council. And I
did that intentionally because I'm a conservative,

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a lifelong Republican with very conservative values, and I wanted to apply my political

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philosophy to governing and I did that
here and it worked out very well.

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And so when I had the opportunity
in twenty sixteen, I ran for the

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state Senate, and I have had
the extreme honor of serving you for eight

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years. I would like to serve
the last four because all the things I

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said about volunteering in this community and
all the things I bring to the table,

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you can add even more to that
after eight years as your state senator,

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and I hope to get into more
of what I have been able to

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do. And I appreciate very much
being here, and i'd appreciate your vote

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on June eighteen. Thank you.
We have our first question. These were

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formulated and set in via email to
us at the radio station. We've condensed

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a few for time, and first
one is about water conservation, water protection,

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and even perhaps finding new versus of
water. It's a big issue in

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our part of Oklahoma. As we
grow and expand more people are finding us

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here. From the position of a
state senator, what can you do to

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protect our interest in these efforts?
And what can be done in your position

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proactively? I took some experience with
water issues with me to the Senate.

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We all know about the drought of
two thousand and one and our twenty plus

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year effort which is gaining even more
steam now to ultimately resolve our water supply

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problem up here in Marshton County.
But I was allowed to serve on the

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Energy and Natural Resources Committee the first
two years in the Senate. A natural

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fit for somebody from Bartlesville, USA. But also because of the water experience,

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I was able to engage on the
conservation issues and the great need to

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expend dollars on water infrastructure issues in
our state just this past session. I

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do not recall if we ended up
putting all of it into the budget,

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but we were looking to put an
initial one hundred and twenty five million dollars

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into water infrastructure repairs and construction in
our state. Because the best way to

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conserve water is to make sure you're
not losing it as you treat it and

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transport it to people's homes. So
it's a big state wide issue, and

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it's a bipartisan issue, solder treatment
plant upgrades. And I'm also very very

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proud of the fact that now putting
in place the science, we're measuring progress

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of individual students and so in the
public education system. I think that's the

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best thing we can do for parents, teachers, and children. And also

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of course always looking at the overburdened
sie. So, will you ever support

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driver's licenses for illegal aliens? Thank
you for the question. It's come up

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a lot. On May the twenty
fourth of this year, we passed the

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Anti Illegal Immigration Act in Oklahoma,
we're already being sued by the Department of

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Justice. Which is not a surprise
to us, but a bill to allow

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people who pay income to acts with
a taxpayer ID number to become eligible for

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a driver's license, so that they
would buy insurance and cut down on the

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problem of uninsured drivers on our roads, which is also a public safety problem

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for having people for whom you have
no identity when they are stopped contributing to

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hit and run accidents. That language
was attempted to be put into our bill

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on May the twenty fourth, and
the entire Senate Republican caucus voted it down,

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including me. Now, this is
the fourth time that bill has been

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introduced. It's had three different numbers, but the same subject matter was put

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before us in twenty twenty two,
and at the time, the great concern

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was making sure if you adopted this
policy that those folks would not have voter

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registration services, would not be allowed
to register or vote. Many groups were

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in favor of the policy. Again, looking at the problem of uninsured drivers

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in Oklahoma, we have a large
percentage of that. It is a problem

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which I've just described, So I
voted to send it to the House,

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because I thought if the House addresses
it, it means both sides of the

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legislature think it's an important issue and
perhaps this is a policy that would help

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it. The House didn't act.
That bill did not pass. There are

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people today who think it is in
effect, but it did not pass,

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and I told the author in March
of twenty twenty two, I won't vote

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for this again. I gave you
a chance to put the policy to the

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House. We all agreed it is
a problem in Oklahoma, but that's not

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the appropriate way to solve it.
In twenty three, twenty four, I

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helped make sure it didn't get to
the floor as an assistant floor leader,

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and then on April the twenty fourth, along with my Republican colleagues, I

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voted that amendment down. So I'm
not in favor of illegal residents having driver's

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licenses. Senator, the authored bills
regarding gender transitioning in children. Can you

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explain them to the audience? Yes. I was put as chairman of the

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Rules Committee left year specifically to take
up legislation where the Republican caucus wanted to

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speak with one voice, and I
had the opportunity to direct the drafting of

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a bill that would prohibit gender transition
procedures in minor children, children under the

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age of eighteen, because in Oklahoma, once you're eighteen, you can make

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your own medical decisions. And I
took great care in crafting it. My

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goal was to make sure it could
stand up in court, and so far

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we have prevailed in federal district court
and we're awaiting a decision from the Tenth

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Circuit right now. We said that
we are not doing anything about behavioral care,

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mental health care, anxiety depression.
Those were not involved in this bill.

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It was simply the physical treatments on
minor children that we wanted to avoid

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because you're making adult decisions as a
child, and I believe that parents have

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been put in a very awkward position. Some of my colleagues actually wanted the

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bills right to be written to prosecute
the parents, and I said, no,

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absolutely not. The parents themselves are
at a loss in some of these

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situations, so we need to show
compassion for both the kids and the parents,

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but just make sure that in Oklahoma
we don't perform these procedures on children.

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And got that passed fairly handly,
and again we have prevailed thus far.

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And other states that have done it
our way, just clear and not

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tried to muddy the waters by putting
too many other things in the bill have

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also prevailed in the courts, and
that is my goal. Good policy that

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can stand up in a court of
law. Senator, can you explain Senate

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Bill eight thirty four and whether it
allows more abortions back in Oklahoma? Thank

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you. No, it was not
intended to do that, and we did

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not take up the bill in the
end. I regret so much that there

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is a division in the pro life
community in Oklahoma at the time that we

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are facing two very fierce foes.
We are facing the Oklahoma Supreme Court,

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which declared a right to abortion in
the Oklahoma Constitution in March of last year,

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at the very same time that I
was trying to get eight thirty four

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passed. To make all of the
language and all of our statutes having to

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do with abortion and pro life read
the same. Every definition should be the

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same, every exception should be the
same, so that our state Supreme Court

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could not pick the laws apart and
find a weak link. But they found

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a week link because we took no
action, and now we are facing the

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abortionists themselves, who will be coming
to Oklahoma for our unborn children, And

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we have not done enough to protect
the unborn from the ad campaign that is

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going to be coming our way that
has swept other states, other pro life

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states just like ours. Eight thirty
four was intended to say, if the

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exception exists in this part of the
law, exist over here. I was

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the author, the Senate author of
House Bill for three two seven. That

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was the Steerman Daniels bill that did
shut the abortion clinics down in Oklahoma.

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It was because you could sue the
abortionist rather than the criminal law you could

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sue. And that was the bill
that had the rape and incest exception in

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it for the very first time in
our statutes. So I simply took that

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and said, along with ectoptic presidency
and our definition of contraception and our definition

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of save the life of the mother, we're going to make all of our

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statutes sound the same so that the
abortionists and the pro abortion Supreme Court cannot

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pick them apart. We didn't take
that action. We've already suffered in the

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state Supreme Court, and I fear
we will suffer when the initiative petition for

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abortion on demand up until the time
of birth in our constitution comes our way,

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and we better be prepared to fight
for life at that time. Senator,

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do you agree or disagree with using
tax payer dollars for economic debs de

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elepment instead of allowing the free market
to function. When I served on the

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city council, I remember going to
our economic development people over the chamber early

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on and saying, I don't like
incentives. Why can't we get rid of

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these incentives, to which he said, that's fine. When everybody else gets

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rid of them, we can get
rid of them. But to be competitive

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sometimes you have to have incentives.
Here in Bartlesville, we have what a

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quarter cent economic development sales tax that
we have renewed every five years for over

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three decades and it has worked exactly
as it's supposed to. Jobs, bring

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00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.480
it to the BDA, bring it
to the city council, have the format

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for the rebate or the incentive baked
in before the money goes out the door,

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and then if you don't achieve what
you said you're going to achieve,

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the money comes back into the kitty. It's the same the state level,

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it's a little more complicated and the
numbers of dollars are larger than they are

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for a city, but I believe
in a certain instant incentives are justified.

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We have a Quality Jobs Act,
and Oklahoma's been here a long long time.

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That is all practically on autopilot.
Over in the Department of Commerce.

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00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:15.639
I know Chronicle Phillips benefited from it. ABB's benefited from it. But these

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one off, one time things do
come to us. I much prefer rebates

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to putting money out the door and
then hoping that you get the return on

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the investment. We are looking at
how our Department of Commerce is structured to

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make sure that we couldn't do it
better. It was proposed that we should

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00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:38.320
create an entire separate Department of Commerce
for economic development this last year. I

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opposed that. I told the author
I wasn't going to do that, and

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in the end the bill was simply
to set up a committee to study how

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can we do economic development better in
Oklahoma? So if we do use tax

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dollars, we do it in the
most sophisticated, well researched way possible.

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Our next question came in to via
emails. We well, why is our

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legislator are allowing a bar association which
is a private organization. Why they give

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00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.519
them the right to appoint members of
the important judicial nominating commission. Gosh,

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Tom, I didn't send a question, but it could have been from me.

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My biggest reform effort this year,
and I've been building on it for

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several years, is judicial reform,
which is changing the way we appoint our

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appellate justices in Oklahoma. I want
the people to decide whether or not they'd

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like to move to the federal system. The President vets and appoints, the

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00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.760
Senate confirms, and then they get
life tenure. We have life tenure now

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with this retention ballot. We've never
thrown any justice off. But given what

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I've just said about the pro life
issue, I suggest you vote off Couger

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and Edmondson when you have the opportunity
in November. They are two of the

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five pro abortion justices who found the
right to abortion in our constitution. I

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want to change it so that we
take this elected commission out of the loop.

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Right now, people apply to be
a justice, which I've always thought

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00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.079
is rather odd. But you apply
to be a justice, you're vetted by

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00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.920
this commission that is unduly influenced by
the bar Association because they're the only lawyers

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00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.880
allowed on the commission. So when
you turn to somebody and say you're a

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00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.360
lawyer, you know more than me. That's been entirely controlled by the Bar

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00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.519
Association electing its members to the Commission. It's been in place for almost fifty

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years. Before that, we had
partisan elections of justices. And so I'd

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like to give the folks the opportunity
to say, yes, the governor's elected

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00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:43.440
by all the people. The Senate
is elected by the districts. So you've

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00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:47.880
got the two elected branches should be
the ones making the appointment and the confirmation,

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and then set this independent judiciary on
its way. I think we would

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get much better decisions from our court. They would be much more reflective of

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the people of the state of Oklahoma. Sadly, even though the Senate got

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it, I'm very proud of by
Senate colleagues, the House did not.

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They it failed. The House didn't
want the people to get to vote on

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this. But I'll be back to
try again because I think it would get

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a much better result for us in
Oklahoma, particularly when they act as legislators

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in black robes. I have two
more questions for you here before we wrap

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up center. If a pandemic were
to occur again, such as COVID nineteen,

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would you vote to require masks in
public building? Thank you not.

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I drew the line on telling private
employers what they must do, anything that

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00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:40.599
prohibited government from demanding a vaccine or
a mask. I was absolutely all for

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00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.239
that. I'm very proud of the
fact that we already had in place in

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00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.360
Oklahoma very limited emergency powers for our
governor. What other states were looking at

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as model language. We already had
a thirty day emergency. It had to

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00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.519
be re upped by the legislature.
They could take it away at any time.

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So the pandemic with the tools in
place to make sure that our freedoms

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were not unduly affected by that very
tumultuous time. The other thing I was

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00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.480
able to do then with one of
my colleagues in the House, was to

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00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.880
write the bill that gave liability protection
to business owners. When we were starting

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00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.679
to open up again, people said, what if we're sued? So we

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00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.599
made sure that as long as you
were following one guidance from the Department of

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00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:30.360
Labor or the Centers for Disease Control
or the Oklahoma Department Health if you were

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00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.480
following one of those guidances, you
would not be liable if somebody claimed they

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contracted COVID in their place of employment
or in the business. And that was

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00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:44.039
another thing that helped get us open
a lot quicker than some of the other

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states. Senator, what steps would
you take to end the state income tax?

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I have tried to do that already, and along with judicial reform,

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00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:59.079
I will continue to work on it. I'm frustrated that we have not yet

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00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:05.199
adopted a formula by which we can
gradually reduce the income tax depending on state

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00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.119
revenues. We did it before,
but did it in such a way that

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as soon as revenue went up a
little bit, it triggered the cut.

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And then we faced the budget shortfall
of twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, and

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00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:21.960
people got completely cold feet about the
trigger that was in place, and so

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00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.280
they repealed it. I've been on
a tax reform task force, hard to

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00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:29.400
say, for the last two years, where we've studied how all the other

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00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.920
states do it, and we've had
the Tax Foundation in here, We've had

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00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.159
ALEC in here, We've had the
state and the US Chamber of Commerce talking

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00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.840
about how different states construct their tax
code so as to figure out a way

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00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.800
to gradually go to zero. I
authored the quarter cent reduction in twenty three.

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00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.639
The ProTem took it away from me, but that's okay. We got

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00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.280
it passed, and this year with
the Speaker, I authored that again without

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00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:59.639
the cut, but just the formula. But again there's just too much disagreement

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00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:04.039
on which is the right way to
go for the Republican Party in both houses

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to unite. So I will continue
to work on that. Senator, it's

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down time for your closing statement.
Thank you. So tax cuts, judicial

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reform, protecting the Republican reforms that
were put in place when my party finally

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took the majority in both houses after
one hundred years of rule by the now

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minority party. It's important to protect
those reforms, lawsuit reform, workers comp

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reform, pension reform, because they
impact every decision that we make, particularly

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the monetary ones at the state level. And because of term limits, which

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I do support and voted for.
I am now the institutional knowledge for those

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reforms because when the pro tem turns
out this year, there won't be anybody

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left except those of us who were
working through the Republican Party to get legislators

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to put those reforms in place,
so I will continue to work on those.

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I'm very interested in rolling regulations.
We have far too many. Even

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00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.800
in a state that doesn't overly regulate, we could improve greatly, and I

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00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.519
believe this would be a great help
to small business owners in our state who

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employ most of the people. Standing
up for individual freedom will continue to be

627
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.280
very important to me. Having passed
bills on campus free speech, free exercise

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00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:30.239
of religion, donor privacy, election
integrity, I continue to be asked to

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run those sorts of bills, and
I will continue to work with all those

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advocates that want to protect our freedoms
and so in closing, it's been the

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honor of a lifetime to serve these
last eight years. I've had some opportunities

632
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.719
the last six years to be in
leadership which allows me to have a larger

633
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:52.239
voice and input at the table about
what happens in our state and therefore what

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00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.880
happens in Senate District twenty nine.
I think those opportunities are ahead of me

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00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:04.000
for these next four years and appreciate
your vote. On June eighteen. Danielsokasenate

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dot com, Facebook, Senator Julie
Daniels message bing or you can text or

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00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:13.199
call me at nine one eight three
three one seven two sixty seven. Thank

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00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.000
you, kwo In, Thank you
Bartlesville. Thank you Senate District twenty nine.

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00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:21.800
Thank you very much, Senator Julie
Daniels. Once again, folks say

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00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.239
you can catch all of our podcasts
from all of our candidates on our website

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00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.079
at Bartlesville Radio dot com. It's
called the campaign Corner. It's enter the

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00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.679
demand tab, so if you want
to go there. And also a reminder

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00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.920
that we have early voting on Thursday
and Friday upstairs fourth floor. Saturday as

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well, shortened time. I believe
it's eight to two and that's upstairs two

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on the fourth floor as well.
Again, thank you Senator Daniels for being

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00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.480
our guest here tonight. Folks,
you are watching and listening to our forum

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for our twenty twenty four primary.
It's right here at City Hall in Bartlesville,

648
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and it's being brought to you by
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Mall on AM fourteen hundred KWN Bartlesville, FM ninety three point three K one

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Bartlesville and also at ninety five point
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K one TV dot com. We'll
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life, and if you ever went to

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the Tulsa Flea Market on a Saturday
morning at the fairground, You're gonna love.

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the radio station at two twenty five

656
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South Commanchee with booths filled with homemade
items, arts, craft, wood,

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jewelry, home decor, antiques,
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small mall with large variety just southeast
from the radio station at two twenty five

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South Command Gee susie Qs Vitage Mall. Attention Bartlesville. As residents of the

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hometown of Phillips sixty six, you
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gallon of fuel by downloading the Phillip
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use your Phillip sixty six fuel Forward
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00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:45.840
were the days. A little risk
never scared us. Dands, tight clans

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00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:52.280
loose He'd cruise down drags with our
favorite bands. You bought good times with

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00:54:52.440 --> 00:55:06.719
loose quarters and every night standing dates
with the same friends. My life was

668
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:15.199
simpler back then. We hustled,
we bumped, you bus stopped, and

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00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:25.199
we smoked all the time. If
that was you, then get your lungs

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screened now visit screen your lungs dot
org. Today it's been a quiet day

671
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.079
across bunch of southeastern Kansas and northeastern
Oklahoma. We're looking for quiet weather again

672
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.199
tonight. One more night of pleasant
weather. Temperatures dropping down to the low

673
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:42.679
sixties. Great start to get you
going out the door on your Wednesday Wednesday

674
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.400
afternoon party. Sunny. Unfortunately getting
a lot warmer. Some call it hot

675
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.960
hides me around ninety. We're being
a load to mid nineties Thursday and Friday,

676
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.199
and mid nineties for the weekend.
HID index values around one hundred.

677
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.440
So summer's making a big surge into
the area. With all the clouds and

678
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.519
showers staying down in Texas, from
the Bob Mills Weather Center. I'm News

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00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:07.320
on sixteen as meteorologist Travis Meyer.
I'm back to Barmarial City Hall. I'm

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Tom Davis and this is our June
twenty twenty four primary forum and it's being

681
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:17.239
brought to you by Phillips sixty six
and Susiccu's Vintage Mall. It is now

682
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.800
time for our state representatives to take
to the stand here today for our forum

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00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:29.440
and this is for District to ten. And first off, we want to

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00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.880
hear from our candidates. Are opening, Stevens, Chad McCarthy, you won

685
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.960
the drum. Let's hear from you. Introduce yourself. Thank you. It's

686
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.280
a privilege to be here today.
Quick introduction. I've been married for twenty

687
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:45.280
eight years. My wife Heather,
and my son may be here. My

688
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:49.119
youngest son, So married for twenty
years, father to six children. We

689
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.000
currently live on a farm outside of
Dewey, Oklahoma. Most of my life

690
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:57.239
has been spending Christian ministry, church
planting, doing missionary work. During that

691
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.599
time, I also built half a
dozen businesses in order to support us during

692
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:05.039
Christian ministry, built and sold,
so I've got some quite a bit of

693
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.559
business experience. I have an earned
Masters and PhD. I'm currently an interim

694
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:15.280
pastor Whipperwell in Osh County, and
so I just want to be clear where

695
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:21.480
I'm coming from my biblical worldview.
I clearly unequivocally confess the Creator's right to

696
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:25.119
guide our lives. I'm a conservative
by conviction and as such, and as

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00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.639
such let me reflect on the Oklahoma
GOP platform. As Republicans, we believe

698
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.000
our rights of life, liberty,
and property are natural rights granted to us

699
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.880
by God, protected by the Constitution, to be defended by our elected officials,

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00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:43.239
even during a declared emergency. We
believe that God is the author and

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00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.840
creator of life, and that all
human life, both born and in the

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00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.079
womb, should be protected. We
believe that economic freedom is the cornerstone of

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00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.840
individual liberty. The private sector and
free market principles are the best means to

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00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:59.320
stimulate economic development, not government programs. It is the right of every parent

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00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.440
to act in their children's best interests, including the health decisions and choosing the

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00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.119
form of education, whether at private
or public schools, or education by other

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00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:14.719
means. By this of conviction,
I would say representing you as a representative

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00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.960
in host District Keen is not about
fixing potholes, economic development, or service

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00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.400
not primarily that is the job of
the free market or the county commissioners.

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00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.119
As we heard from earlier, We're
not a socialist or a top down government.

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00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:31.760
We are a constitutional republic, and
so therefore supporting and protecting your rights

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00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:37.360
as citizens will be my primary responsibility
if elected. Now, the Republican Party

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00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:43.480
requires the candidate support the GOP platform. In order to receive GOP support.

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00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.239
I have read and marked that platform. I have a copy with me today.

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00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.760
It's spread out in front of me. I've marked and read up the

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00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:54.599
platform. You will hear me cite
section and page number this evening. This

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00:58:54.639 --> 00:59:00.519
platform represents the belief that we as
Republicans hold dear. The platform truly does

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00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.960
represent conservative biblical values, and I
will proudly stand with the OK GOP platform,

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and we'll fight to protect, to
protect and defend these values. On

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00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:15.000
your behalf. Thank you very much, John Trump. Yes, sir,

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00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:20.559
turned for opening remarks. Thank you. I have to apologize. I'm somewhere

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00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.760
between a sneeze and a cough going
here. I am Judge Strom. I

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00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.480
have I live right now where I
came, just about a mile from where

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00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.519
I came home from the hospital too. So I've spent my entire life in

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00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.320
District ten. I went to Bowery
School, I went to Okenhma State University.

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00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:45.239
My family and everyone I've growing up
with, we're very service oriented.

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00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.920
We're very community oriented. I tell
people, you know, my dad's been

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00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.119
the president of the Bowering School Board
for forty five years. My grandpa helped

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00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.000
build the water district. My dad
and my family we help build the rural

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00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.920
fire Department up there and we've served
on it. I've actually been a firefighter

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00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.440
for thirty years. I was a
certified firefighter before I had a driver's license.

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01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.239
And that's really what stemmed one of
my directors to move me towards Wood

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01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:12.199
government then was we were having trouble
out in the rural areas as so much

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01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:17.840
a District ten was getting what we
needed to help those communities. The rural

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01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.119
fire departments, the rural water departments. A lot of those came apart as

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01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.559
federal government programs, and when those
went away at the state level, we

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01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:29.360
didn't have the help we needed,
and so that's where I went in.

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01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:32.719
One of the things I say is
I appreciate people that live on a platform

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01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.079
I also have kind of a little
different platform that I exist on. But

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01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:39.400
one of the reasons I ran I
ran against a guy that was a great

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01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:42.400
man. He was a family man, he was a loving man, he

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01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.199
was a very intelligent man. He
come from a great family and everything.

743
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:52.079
But his entire philosophy for governance came
from a platform that I didn't think aligned

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01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:57.280
with the majority or the overwhelming majority
of the people of District ten. Kind

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01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.079
of an alternate idea to my opponent, I suppose, was that we did

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01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:05.079
want good roads, we did want
good bridges, we did want good schools.

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01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.559
We were tired of being a left
behind to the big cities. We

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01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.079
wanted those opportunities out here. And
I wanted to see what I could do.

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01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:13.639
I wanted to go to work at
the state level to see what I

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01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.519
could do to help my community.
And in the six years I've been in

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01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:19.039
this position, I have spent four
of those years in leadership, and I'm

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01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.239
very proud of the job we've done
and the resources we've brought back to District

753
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:23.199
ten and the job we've been able
to do. And a lot of that

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01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.679
has been even relinquishing some of that
power from the state and giving that back

755
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.159
to the counties, given that back
to the cities, bringing that back to

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01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.960
local control, which is a big
party platform thing. So I'm proud of

757
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.679
that job. I appreciate and I'm
proud of the six years I've served.

758
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:43.920
I'm honored to have served the people
for six great years, and I would

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01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:49.079
like to serve for two more at
least. Our first question goes to Dudstrom

760
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.039
water conservation, water protection and even
perhaps finding new sources of water, big

761
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:58.039
issue in our part of Oklahoma as
it grows. From the position of state

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01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.400
representative, what can you do to
pact our interest in these efforts and what

763
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:07.599
can be done in your position proactively. I think in the last two years,

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01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:13.159
three years especially, we have been
very proactive. You know, I

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01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.280
have a great friend that's represented from
lot and I used to send them snapchats

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01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.760
of all the water fallen off in
the watershed lakes and said, this is

767
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:21.599
what we do with our extra water. Well that come back and bit me.

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01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.320
In the last few years as we
did face droughts, we worked very

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01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:30.679
hard with the Okamororo Water Board or
the Water Resources Board to get the things

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01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:34.880
we need to keep the water going. But we've we've worked since then to

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01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.679
look to the future, and you
have to have a plan, you have

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01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:39.239
to do studies, you have to
know what we need to do when that

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01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:44.239
comes around again. We've looked at
raising the levels on the lakes that we

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01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.199
do have where our water sources are. We've looked at pipelines that run to

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01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:51.199
other lakes and water sources. We've
looked you creating new lakes for water sources.

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01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:53.519
I don't know if you'd say it's
lucky or not, but Martlesville was

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01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.199
built with the water source that was
adequate and we haven't grown much past that.

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01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.360
But that's in good years. When
you have years like we had the

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01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.440
last two years or three years when
we were in the worst drought that we've

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01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:07.440
ever faced, not only were our
lakes down, but our aquifers were down,

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01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:12.400
our ponds were down, with led
to problems with livestock and livestock watering,

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01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.480
and we hit that head on.
We created the Drought Commission. We

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01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.119
came in and I think that my
district or District ten, really got the

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01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.880
most help from that commission that any
other district did. We drilled wells,

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01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:29.400
we cleaned out ponds, we cleaned
out waterways, and Luckily, we got

786
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.920
about twenty five inches of rain over
the next winter and springtime. So what

787
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:37.360
we have to do now is we
have to make sure that we have alternatives

788
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:43.400
that allow for that to never happen
again. The situation we were in last

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01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.920
year, and we have worked on
that problem for three years and we will

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01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:50.559
continue to work on that problem.
Same question, do you, mister McCarthy,

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01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:57.000
what conservation would water and protection and
perhaps even finding new sources of water

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01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.159
big issues of course here in Oklahoma. But from the position of state representative,

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01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:05.400
what can you do to protect our
interest in these efforts? And what

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01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:14.119
could be done from your position proactively? So as I've been knocking doors and

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01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.719
speaking with county commissioners around District ten, one of the comments that's come up

796
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:24.719
in a number of situations has been
the inefficiencies of our water lines. And

797
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.000
I don't remember exactly which part of
Noada County, but there are areas of

798
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.679
Noada County where, in order to
save money, water lines were put in.

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01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:36.199
My wife can tell you. At
our home we have a motto and

800
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:40.360
then, which is do it right
the first time and just do it once.

801
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:44.719
And in order to save money,
they used water lines that were not

802
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:48.679
appropriate for rocky ground, and now
not long after the water lines have been

803
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:54.000
put in, they're losing upwards of
fifty percent of the water. It's catastrophic

804
01:04:55.079 --> 01:05:00.599
for the people of Noada County,
especially in areas where they're where they don't

805
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:03.440
have as much revenue coming in.
So on practical, you know, practically

806
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:09.480
speaking, we can address issues such
as water loss if necessary, try and

807
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:15.079
find funding to put new water lines
in and see if we can be efficient.

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01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.400
In addition to as representatives strong mentioned, look at issues such as raising

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01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:24.199
water levels and on the lakes.
So all right, mister McCarthy, this

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01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:28.360
question is for you. House Build
forty three to twenty seven. It's a

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01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.239
bill that effectively ended surgical abortion in
Oklahoma. Where do you stand on that?

812
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:41.760
Well, I appreciate you raising that
question. On page two of the

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01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.239
ok GOP platform, it says this. It says, we believe that children

814
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:50.639
are a special gift from God and
their safety and protection are paramount. We

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01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:56.920
have a responsibility to protect children.
Elsewhere we read that on page three.

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01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.800
Page three, number three says we
believe that intentional abortion is a contrary to

817
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.480
the word of God and its murder. The incumbent voted again against HB forty

818
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:12.960
three twenty seven, a bill which
would have which would have effectively ended surgical

819
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:17.039
abortion. I stand, I stand
against all forms of abortion. Abortion is

820
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:24.119
murder and we should have nothing to
do with it, period. Mister Strong,

821
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:29.039
same question to you. House Bill
forty three twenty seven, a bill

822
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:32.440
that effectively ended surgical abortion in Oklahoma. Where do you stand on that?

823
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:40.920
Well, I voted against it.
I'll tell you why. When Roverts's Way

824
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.039
felt and we knew that was coming, Oklahoma immediately reverted back to a nineteen

825
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.920
ten bill that made giving or providing
an abortion of felony and made it illegal

826
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:53.119
in the state of Oklahoma. That
happened as soon as Rob Versus Wave felt.

827
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:57.079
We've had several options in my six
years. I voted every year,

828
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:00.480
it seems, on some bill,
and I voted for every bill that limit

829
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.239
or ind abortions everything that's come up. But the problem I had with House

830
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:10.639
Bill forty three twenty seven was that
civil and criminal line that got crossed in

831
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:14.280
our criminal justice system or our legal
system in most of the United States,

832
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:17.119
and certainly in Oklahoma, you offend
the state, you affect your neighbor.

833
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.840
So if you offend the state,
you're guilty of a misdemeanor, a felony.

834
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.440
You're punished. You affect your neighbor, which is civil law. You

835
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:26.800
back over the fence, you owe
me twelve hundred dollars, you run into

836
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.760
my car, you owe me something. But we don't cross that line to

837
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.480
say you did something that I'm offended
by. I consue you, and it

838
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:35.679
has to go to court. A
judge would throw that out. So if

839
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:41.079
that doesn't affect you, so with
I didn't believe that it was going to

840
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.920
actually end abortion. I did believe
it was also probably unconstitutional because of discussions

841
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.679
we had where every other person in
the House of Representatives said, well,

842
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.559
we can't possibly vote against that.
That's an abortion bill. You can't do

843
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:55.360
that. I said, I can, And it's because I'm not up here

844
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.800
to stand on to be a show
voter or show people at home what I

845
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.840
can do. I'm I'm p here
to do real work. And I think

846
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.159
that while this has a great title, it has a great name, it's

847
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:06.239
very popular, I think it will
do more damage to our legal system than

848
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:11.159
it would do good. And I
really I didn't think even then I was

849
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:14.440
right. It came back in both
sides of it were found to be unconstitutional

850
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:18.560
and then therefore unenforceable. So there's
a fine out there, there's a not

851
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:23.039
a fine out there. There's a
punishment out there that's not really attached to

852
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:30.079
any other law. And so again
when roversus Well fed Roe versus Way fell,

853
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.399
we reverted back to a nineteen ten
bill that made it a felony to

854
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.399
provide an abortion in the state of
Oklahoma. Next question is to you,

855
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:42.159
mister Strump, do you agree or
disagree with using taxpayer dollars for economic development

856
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:48.960
instead of allowing the free market to
function. You are absolutely right that I

857
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:55.760
agree with taxpayer funding to create businesses
or to help to create jobs. But

858
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.039
the problem that has to be is
it has to be a strategic and it

859
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.479
has to be a good investment.
We can look at those we can look

860
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.439
at the path and see what failed
or what worked. Sometimes we need a

861
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:08.520
boost. And I'll tell you this, if we want to bring big businesses

862
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.560
in that have great jobs, that
have high wages, that keep our kids

863
01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:14.600
that have grown up here and gone
to school here in Oklahoma, we have

864
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.439
to try to help that come along. We can move along slowly and hope

865
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:20.039
the market works. But maybe the
market works in Oklahoma City, but it

866
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.119
doesn't work in Tulsa. Maybe it
works in Tulsa, but it doesn't work

867
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.199
in Bartlesville. And we don't do
what we used to do, which is

868
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:29.479
just write you a check and hope
that you come here and do a good

869
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:31.039
job. Right now, what we
do in Oklahoma's we have a quality jobs

870
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:35.560
program. You have to prove that
you have created a certain number of jobs

871
01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:40.079
ad or above the regional pay and
keep those jobs for a certain time,

872
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:43.800
for a certain amount of time,
and then we will reward you back.

873
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.359
But in the end, we actually
become the winners, not only because we

874
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.359
keep our kids here in Oklahoma and
bring great people in here that are highway

875
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:56.039
journers, but we set ourselves up
for the long term. Kind of the

876
01:09:56.079 --> 01:10:00.560
business begets business idea that comes about
everything brings the feeder businesusiness is in.

877
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:04.960
So I think if we can use
that money to strategically invest it, and

878
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:11.319
then the return on our investment is, you know, more jobs, more

879
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:15.479
taxpayers. We'll have the opportunity in
the future to have more taxpayers paying fewer

880
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:19.960
taxes. And I think just almost
everyone in this room would appreciate that same

881
01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:24.640
question. Do you, mister McCarthy, do you agree or do you disagree

882
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:30.920
with using taxpayer dollars for economic development
instead of allowing the free market to function.

883
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:36.920
That's an excellent question. Again.
I'm going to refer to the Oklahoma

884
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:41.560
GOP platform, and I want to
be clear, You're gonna hear me over

885
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.800
and over tonight refer to the platform. It's because I believe the platform represents

886
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:51.479
the values of the Oklahoma Republicans and
states. We believe that Oklahoma's efforts to

887
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:59.600
attract industry should be grounded upon the
establishment of favorable and friendly economic climate rather

888
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:04.119
than upon tax and government subsidy.
I'm running on a platform of taking no

889
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:11.960
lobbyist money for the simple fact that
lobbyists by politicians, and this creates a

890
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:16.960
doom loop. The encumbent supported HB
forty four fifty five, which gave a

891
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:23.720
whopping six hundred and ninety eight million
dollars to an unnamed corporation. Is this

892
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:29.159
is systemic corruption. It's legal,
it's legal corruption, but it's systemic corruption.

893
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:33.640
Whereby our legislatures make special laws.
Now, how do they get around

894
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:38.920
this? They make special laws by
not naming the corporation, but they make

895
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:45.399
it so narrow that only one corporation
can meet can meet those qualifications. These

896
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:50.720
special laws then result in donations,
and this is how a large majority of

897
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:56.039
our politicians get elected. It's corrupt. We shouldn't do it. It's forbidden,

898
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:00.079
it's forbidden by the constitution, and
it's against the platform. The free

899
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:06.560
market is the best solution. Our
next question involves money again, and this

900
01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:12.039
goes to humanster McCarthy. Now that
the state has quote billions in savings,

901
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:16.239
should the taxpayers be entitled to some
sort of refund. That's an excellent question.

902
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.159
But two and a half years ago, the Biden administration passed a one

903
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:27.039
trillion dollar infrastructure bill. This infrastructure
bill is pretty amazing, and there are

904
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.479
hundreds of millions of dollars, if
my memory is correct, that were allotted

905
01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:34.960
to the building of electric charger stations. Two years into this process, how

906
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:41.159
many charging stations were built? I
think the I think the number was zero.

907
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.239
Now we're two and a half years
into it, I think it's seven

908
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:50.760
hundreds, hundreds of millions of dollars
and we have seven charging stations. Governments

909
01:12:50.760 --> 01:13:00.439
are corrupt because of the lobbyist.
The lobbyist tie with politicians. But at

910
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.119
the end of the day, Sorry, can you repeat the question. Now

911
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:06.319
that the state has billions in savings, bions of dollars, should the taxpayers

912
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:15.279
be entitled to some sort of refund? Sorry got off track. We need

913
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:20.880
to produce spending because COVID Sorry I
didn't answer that. Well, COVID has

914
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:27.319
resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars
in federal money coming to coming to the

915
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.720
state. That's going to come to
an end. Combined with Social Security hitting

916
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:35.880
a wall in twenty thirty to thirty
three, our budgets can to radically change.

917
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:41.800
We need to change how we spend
money. Same question to you,

918
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.279
mister Strom. The state now has
billions and savings, should the taxpayers be

919
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:51.039
entitled to some sort of refund?
Absolutely, We've worked on that. Now

920
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:54.239
we need to look at it.
And again I keep using the same word,

921
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:56.680
but I think it's how a lot
of us down there think now we

922
01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:01.479
need to do strategically and carefully.
This last year, they passed the largest

923
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:06.199
tax cut in the history of the
state of Oklahoma. And I'm gonna be

924
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:10.439
really honest with you that I didn't
like it. And voted against it.

925
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:13.800
I voted for thirteen other tax cuts. But the problem was they said it

926
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.920
was going to be a three hundred
million dollar tax cut when they took your

927
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.039
sales tax off of your groceries.
The problem with that was the very no

928
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:25.560
definition meant that only about ten percent
of the food that you bought was considered

929
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:28.600
groceries. So when they were telling
you you were going to make three hundred

930
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:31.119
dollars a year back, according to
the Oklahoma Grocery Association, you were going

931
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.159
to get thirty dollars a year back. But I was there to vote on

932
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:38.560
the bill that fixed it, that
come back and made the definition food and

933
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:43.079
food ingredients, so more of your
grocery card you would save taxes on.

934
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.880
Now, the problem that we have
is or something that I'm cautious about,

935
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:53.800
is something that opponent brought up,
which is a lot of monopoly money's been

936
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.600
dropped in this state over the last
four or five years since COVID, billions

937
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.000
of dollars. Those were all went
to shovel ready jobs. Those put people

938
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:01.680
to work, that brought an income
tax, and in twenty twenty five and

939
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.920
into twenty twenty six, that money's
all going away. So we need to

940
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:08.840
be careful because I don't want to
put this state back into a position where

941
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.479
they were in twenty eighteen, where
we were a billion dollars in the hole

942
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.880
and scratching for what we could cut
and get rid of. I think that

943
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:16.960
in the six years I've been there, we've worked to provide the services that

944
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:23.359
people expected and the services that people
want, and so I don't want to

945
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.159
cut that back. I want to
make it more effective and more efficient.

946
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.600
But when it comes to tax cuts
or getting a refund back, there are

947
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.239
so many different options that you could
do. I mean, I don't We've

948
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:36.760
looked at writing a check bick back
to people. In the time that I

949
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.760
have been there, we have cut
income tax, we've cut franchise tax,

950
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:44.279
we've cut a marriage penalty tax,
and now we've cut the grocery tax.

951
01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:45.800
So we are looking at that and
saying we are ahead. And I think

952
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.239
people do want to pay lesson taxes, and I'm willing to work on that.

953
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:55.800
Mister Stroud, what is your stance
on school choice. I've been very

954
01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.079
firm, and I'm one of those
that kind of stands out I think in

955
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:01.039
the Capitol, in my party,
in the District ten, there are sixteen

956
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:04.880
rural public school districts. I have
no private schools. I think I do

957
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:09.039
have thirty four kids that go to
private schools. But every dollar we send

958
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:13.319
on private schools leaves my district.
And I don't think the overwhelming majority of

959
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.119
people want to see dollars leaving their
district for education. They want those dollars

960
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:20.039
spent right here in District ten.
And So, while I love private schools,

961
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:24.720
and I live right next door to
some wonderful private schools that we have

962
01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:27.800
here in Bartlesville, I love homeschool
I know a lot of I mean some

963
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.159
of my family and some of my
best friends, and some people that are

964
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.319
here I think do a wonderful job
at homeschools. But I think that we

965
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:38.680
should keep government dollars out of private
schools and out of homeschools, because as

966
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:42.920
soon as you start to spend tax
payer dollars on those entities, you become

967
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.119
accountable to the Oklahoma tax payer,
and year after year, election after election,

968
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:50.520
and rule making or lawmaking year after
lawmaking year. We have said that

969
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:54.520
we want to test our kids.
We have said that we want four levels

970
01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.079
of math. We've said we want
four levels of science. We've said we

971
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.119
want so much English. We have
made those rules because that is what taxpayers

972
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:03.279
wanted. I don't think people that
have their kids in private school or people

973
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:06.840
that are teaching their kids at home
want the government or the taxpayers telling them

974
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:13.520
how to educate their kids. And
so as far as the scholarships for private

975
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:18.119
schools or the money going into homeschools, I think we should keep public dollars

976
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.119
in public schools. All right,
same question to you, mister McCarthy,

977
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:27.720
what is your stance on school choice? Again, I'm going to refer to

978
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.319
the Oklahoma platforms you GOPEP platform.
It's the right of every parent to act

979
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:35.159
in their child's best interest, including
health decisions, choosing the form of education,

980
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:40.119
whether at a private or public school, or education by their means.

981
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:45.640
It seems to me that the concern
for most Oklahomas comes down to the issue

982
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:51.800
of government intervention, money and government
intervention. On page eight, page eight

983
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:58.399
point four, the Oklahoma platform says
this, we oppose government expansion and control

984
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:03.920
by the use of public tax to
fund and interfere with private forms of education.

985
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:10.239
If I'm elected, one of my
primary responsibilities will be to protect your

986
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:17.279
rights as citizens of Oklahoma, I'm
firmly convinced by conviction that the government should

987
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:25.119
not interfere with private education the incumbent
the incumbents supported, I believe he authored

988
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.560
bill HB thirty five to eighty five, which if it had passed, it

989
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:31.359
did not it would have interfered with
parntal rights. And so I stand with

990
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:38.159
the people of Oklahoma and the platform
that government should not interfere with private forms

991
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:42.279
of education, whether public or private. Our next question goes to you,

992
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:48.159
mister McCarthy. The state of Louisiana's
passing vaccine status related protection legislation? Would

993
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:53.600
you support something like this and if
a pandemic were to occur again, would

994
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:57.760
you vote to require masks in public
buildings? So? Can you? Can

995
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.439
you read that once more? Yes, this came in from a little so

996
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:04.680
I'm trying my best otor statu as
well. Louisiana is passing a vaccine status

997
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:10.680
related protection legislation. Would you support
something like this? And if a pandemic

998
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:15.159
were to occur again, would you
vote to require masks in public buildings?

999
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:19.520
I would unequivocally stand against masks in
public buildings. We had this question last

1000
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:25.399
night at the Washington County Forum.
The incumbent was surprised to learn that many

1001
01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:29.319
people have been fired from the hospital
here in town, one of them which

1002
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:34.319
was my wife. Yes, my
wife was fired for not taking an untested

1003
01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.840
gene therapy. In hindsight, I'm
so thankful that she did not. As

1004
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:43.880
a nurse who works in labor and
delivery delivery, she can tell you.

1005
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:48.319
She could talk to you for an
hour about the terrible health issues anecdotally.

1006
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:53.960
She's not a research scientist, but
anecdotally that she's seeing as a nurse with

1007
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:58.079
twenty I don't know, almost thirty
years of nursing history, I'm going to

1008
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:02.520
stand against vaccine mandates without reservation.
It is the role of government to protect

1009
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:09.920
individual rights against business overreach, not
the other way around. Same question to

1010
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:15.640
you, mister Stroump. Louisiana is
passing a vaccine status related protection central legislation.

1011
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.359
Would you support something like this?
And if a pandemic were to ever

1012
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.920
occur again, such as COVID nineteen, would you vote to require masks in

1013
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:31.560
public buildings vaccine status related legislation?
It sounds for me like Louisiana is trying

1014
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:35.079
to be more like the state of
Oklahoma. We have a great system here

1015
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:39.600
in the state of Oklahoma for the
people, for our workers, for the

1016
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.039
you know, our kids at school, when you go out in public,

1017
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.600
we have exemptions that are in place
the kids can have, that people can

1018
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:50.800
have for the most part. One
thing I will say again is when the

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01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:54.680
pandemic came the last time, there
were no state laws made, There were

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01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:58.159
no state mass mandates made. We
didn't. I think I was the second

1021
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.680
person in the capitol down there with
another colleague, and we said, it's

1022
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.920
very important that we don't destroy what
we have for one thing, the whole

1023
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:09.760
past, the future, and a
lot of what you saw during COVID in

1024
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.880
the state of Oklahoma came down to
a money deal. The same as our

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01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.960
hospital. We didn't say you have
to do this. What happened was the

1026
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:18.239
CMS rules from the federal government said
if you don't do this, you don't

1027
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:21.039
get money. Well, our hospital
would have closed down if they didn't follow

1028
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:26.399
those rules. And I worked through
the pandemic from my kitchen table, which

1029
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.000
was after we got kicked out of
the capitol, and I worked every day

1030
01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:30.119
with the hospital. I was in
touch with people every day, and we

1031
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.800
heard all the stories about people getting
fired from Jane Phillips and Bartlesville. But

1032
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:38.600
every day people told me, we
haven't fired anybody because they didn't take a

1033
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.399
vaccine. We've tried to move people, we switched schedules, we've moved people

1034
01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:45.279
working from home, and every day
that's what they reported to me. So

1035
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:50.920
that's what I stand by. And
you know, we don't know what's coming

1036
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:54.279
in the future. We've got to
be able to be on the ball and

1037
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:59.640
move depending on what needs to happen. But again, I think Oklahoma did

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01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:01.520
a great job. We came out
of the pandemic better than anybody else.

1039
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:04.600
We come out with a stronger economy
than anybody else. We went back to

1040
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.359
work faster than anybody else. And
a lot of what you saw were your

1041
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:12.600
big businesses that were holding on.
But I'll remind you that any rules we

1042
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.479
made wouldn't have just been for the
big companies. They would have been for

1043
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:17.600
the other the ninety nine percent of
our companies, which are small businesses,

1044
01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.800
and there's three hundred and fifty thousand
of them, and they didn't want rules

1045
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.640
imposed on them by the state,
and we didn't make any so they were

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01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.479
allowed to do what they wanted.
During the pandemic, and I respect that.

1047
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:31.760
Our question now is to you,
mister Strom, would you support something

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01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:36.560
that's called track and tax if it
comes up for a boat in the next

1049
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:41.439
latest slative session. You know,
one of my favorite things to come out

1050
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.560
of the Capitol when you get home
and you hear things that are just described

1051
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:46.960
in terrible ways track and tax,
you know, And I've heard that I

1052
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:49.920
support track and tax, and I
want to track every mile that you drive,

1053
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:53.439
and I want to know where your
car's at. And it's some more

1054
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.960
Wayian thing that I'm trying to do. I'll be straight with you right now.

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01:22:57.039 --> 01:22:59.840
Your roads and bridges are paid for
with gas tack and a diesel tax.

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01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.600
Their nineteen cents of gallon for gasoline
and nineteen cents of gallon for diesel.

1057
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.199
And that's how we pay for our
roads and bridges. But in twenty

1058
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:08.479
twenty one, thirty percent of the
new cars that come into the state of

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01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:13.479
Oklahoma where electric or high hybrid.
They're not paying their share. By twenty

1060
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:18.960
fifty, the gas standards are forty
nine miles per gallon or better for passenger

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01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:23.279
vehicles is what they have to be. So what's gonna happen in fifty years,

1062
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:25.880
it's gonna get more expensive to build
our roads and we're going to be

1063
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:30.000
taking in less revenue to build our
roads and bridges. So right now,

1064
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:31.800
the state of Oklahoma said, we
need to be thinking about what are we

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01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:35.039
gonna do in twenty thirty five,
What are we gonna do in twenty forty,

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01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:38.439
What are we gonna do by the
time we get to twenty fifty.

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01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.479
And I think it's important that maybe
we do a study. We did.

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01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.720
It was the Roads or the Drive
Study or whatever they come up with,

1069
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.000
weird acronyms at the Capitol all the
time. It started in twenty two,

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01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:50.520
it ended in twenty twenty three,
and there was a full report. You

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01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:56.520
can see it on the see it
on the internet at the dot dot website.

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01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.039
And I think it was a smart
thing to do. Do I want

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01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:01.079
to be tracked? Absolutely not.
Do most of my friends and family want

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01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.680
to be tracked. I don't believe
so. But I also don't want to

1075
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:08.159
be the guy out here in my
fourteen mileigallon truck that are paying for everyone

1076
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:13.039
else's roads and bridges that are be
driven by heavier electric cars. More electric

1077
01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:15.640
cars. You know, if we're
going to look into hydrogen. We're also

1078
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.600
gonna have to figure out how do
we look into hydrogen or is there a

1079
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:23.159
different battery technology we're gonna have to
do. I think it was very smart

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01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:26.319
to do that study now, because
in the future we're gonna have to make

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01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:30.119
decisions, and I don't want to
make decisions in a dumb way. I

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01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:32.039
want the facts. I want to
know what's up. We didn't have info

1083
01:24:32.079 --> 01:24:35.439
from anywhere else, so we went
out and found those facts ourselves. I'm

1084
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:39.520
proud of the study. I'm glad
we did it, and I'm glad we'll

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01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:43.600
be able to meet that problem head
on when it gets here to you,

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01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:47.640
mister McCarthy, would you support so
called track and tax if it comes up

1087
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:53.479
for a vote in the next legislative
session. I would not. I think

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01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:58.560
it's important to look at the world
and society in which we live, both

1089
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.680
globally and here in side of the
United States. The World Economic Forum is

1090
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:09.199
discussing or making statements that we'll own
nothing and be happy. They are actively

1091
01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:14.720
talking about desiring to get rid of
all private ownership of vehicles here in the

1092
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:23.000
United States. Locally, we have
multiple states that are introducing legislation that would

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01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:28.119
begin as a voluntary program that once
it's passed. We're now seeing in other

1094
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:33.359
states a move to make these same
types of legislation move from a voluntary to

1095
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:39.119
a mandatory law. Other states have
talked about putting in a flat rate per

1096
01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:44.119
day with respect to how many miles
that are driven. As a business owner,

1097
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:47.560
I've owned multiple businesses, I've started
multiple businesses. I can tell you

1098
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:54.439
this idea, this idea that politicians
think we're going to be mostly electric cars

1099
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:58.560
by twenty fifty is a pipe dream. All you have to do is look

1100
01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:00.640
at our electric rid. We don't
have the electric grid. You only have

1101
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:05.159
to look at silver to realize that
we don't produce enough silver to make the

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01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:09.159
connections in electric vehicles. We could
go on and on, look at rare

1103
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:13.960
earth minerals. Who owns the earth
minerals China does. We are an oil

1104
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:19.760
based state. We ought to pursue
energy independence. We should celebrate the fact

1105
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:27.239
that we have such God given abundance
of resources and find better solutions while we

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01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:30.680
can know to track and tax.
More importantly, let's protect all of our

1107
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:35.399
rights, not just the right to
travel. All righty, it's time now

1108
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:42.119
for closing comments we'll start off with
mister Judd Trump. Thanks sir. I

1109
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.439
think the most important thing I said
that I said earlier, which is I've

1110
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:50.239
absolutely been honored to serve you for
the last six years. I love my

1111
01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:54.359
community, I love my neighbors,
my families all here, my friends are

1112
01:26:54.359 --> 01:26:57.920
all here, and I think we've
worked. I've had the opportunity to work

1113
01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:01.720
really for them every year, single
day. And when I say every single

1114
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.119
day, I'm not kidding. In
this job, your phone starts ringing about

1115
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:08.159
six thirty in the morning and it
quits about eleven eleven thirty, and then

1116
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:11.680
it just buzzes and you kind of
ignored a little bit. But it's all

1117
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.039
day. It's every day, and
I've loved the opportunity to do it.

1118
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:17.720
There's not one moment that I've regretted
doing it. I have served in leadership

1119
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.960
for four years and I'll continue in
that position. I am the chair of

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01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:24.920
General Government on a budget committee,
and I've had the opportunity to really,

1121
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:30.239
I think, move this state forward
in a better way. We've seen this

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01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:31.880
state and the time that I've been
in office, go from having a billion

1123
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:35.319
dollars shortfall to hav an over four
and a half billion dollars in savings.

1124
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:39.840
I've had the opportunity in that to
vote for over four point seven billion dollars

1125
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:44.479
worth of tax cuts. We've had
the opportunity to make strategic investments in our

1126
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:46.680
education. Since I've been there.
We've given over one point two billion dollars

1127
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:53.359
to our public schools and improve those. I just I'm proud of the work

1128
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:56.079
that I've been able to do when
I was down there, and every time

1129
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:58.479
I thought, you know, it'd
be a lot easier just to come home

1130
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:00.239
to the most beautiful place in the
world, you know, look after my

1131
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.600
black cows and go a little wild
or relax a little more, or something

1132
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:08.640
like that, I think I can't
because I don't trust anyone to do the

1133
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:14.840
job that I've done when I was
down there. I've just I really appreciate

1134
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:19.600
all the people that I've had the
opportunity to serve that Like I said,

1135
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:23.359
they really they call and they text, and they email, and they and

1136
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:27.680
they write and they come in and
every day. I think it's just been

1137
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:30.199
an honor to be able to work
for them, and I would appreciate the

1138
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.720
opportunity to continue to do that.
I think we're on a great path for

1139
01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:39.319
the first time in many years,
I said, since the nineteen hundreds the

1140
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:42.079
other day, and it really made
me feel old. We've turned this state

1141
01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:45.439
around as far as brain drain.
Brain drain is your kids that you spend

1142
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.760
twenty years educating and then they pick
up and leave the state. If they

1143
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:49.960
want to be successful, if they
want to be happy, they think they

1144
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:53.680
have to go somewhere else. I
said, when I was running, it

1145
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.000
was important to me that I wanted
you to be able to get a good

1146
01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:58.720
job and have a good life here. I wanted your kids to have a

1147
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:00.720
good job life here. I didn't
want their kids to ever wanted to leave.

1148
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:02.880
I wanted to be able to find
it right here. And I think

1149
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:09.399
strategic investments we've made in workforce development
and education, in science and technology and

1150
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:14.479
aeronautics and even terism have really moved
this state forward. And I'm proud to

1151
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.600
have been a part of that.
And I just I don't see yet that

1152
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:20.000
I'm ready to give up that opportunity
to keep helping because there are a lot

1153
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:24.159
of great people in the House of
Representatives and in the Senate. Don't tell

1154
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:28.880
the Senator I said that, but
they're really doing great things, and I'm

1155
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:31.000
proud to be a part of it. And I would appreciate your opportunity and

1156
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:36.279
your support on June eighteenth to give
me the opportunity to continue what we're doing.

1157
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:43.560
Thank you and your closing statement,
mister McCarthy, it's been a privilege

1158
01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:49.800
to sit across from the incumbent both
last night and this evening. One thing

1159
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:57.319
I appreciate about and coming Strom is
as honesty. So often politicians are duplicitous,

1160
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.560
They say one thing and they do
another. I feel that Stram has

1161
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:02.960
been very honest, and I appreciate
that. One thing that he has pointed

1162
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:11.960
out, and I'll remind you is
we are presenting two different perspectives. I

1163
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:16.159
do come from a biblical worldview.
I do clearly. I do clearly confess

1164
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:23.319
without any shame or reservation, the
Creator's right to guide our life. So

1165
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:30.039
when you've seen me reference the Oklahoma
GOP platform over and over both yesterday evening,

1166
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:34.640
if you were there, and this
evening, it's because I believe,

1167
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:43.920
I truly believe as a matter of
conviction, not the not the politics solves

1168
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.560
everything, but I believe its a
matter of conviction that standing up for the

1169
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:51.159
rights of life liberty and property,
the belief that these are natural rights granted

1170
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:58.439
by God. I believe these are
worth protecting. I believe that family rights,

1171
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:02.840
parents rights. I think these are
more important than than than than government

1172
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:09.680
interventionism. I think that we should
be a bottom up country, where a

1173
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:16.039
constitutional republic. And I believe that
the primary responsibility of an elected official is

1174
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:19.479
to protect the rights of the citizens, and if elected, this will be

1175
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:26.039
my primary responsibility. I unashamedly stand
on the Republican platform. I'd like to

1176
01:31:26.079 --> 01:31:30.680
remind you that the Republican platform,
specifically the Oklahoma Republican platform, this isn't

1177
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:34.880
something that I wrote. This is
something that you wrote. We the people

1178
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:40.479
of Oklahoma, we got together as
Republicans, and these are the values that

1179
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:45.279
together we decided. These are the
values that matter to us. And I

1180
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:49.720
appreciate Stromp's honesty. He's told you
yesterday, he told you again today.

1181
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:59.199
I They're not his values, at
least not consistently. I stand on the

1182
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:04.239
platform, and i'd like to defend
your rights. Given the opportunity to elect

1183
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:09.800
you that if you would elect me
to be your representative, appreciate your vote

1184
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:14.199
on June eighteenth. Thank you,
Thank you both candidates. You've been watching

1185
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:19.159
and listing our District ten form and
I want to think of both of our

1186
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:24.399
participants tonight, ladies and gentlemen,
I want to thank you for being here

1187
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:27.960
at the Bartlesville City Chambers. Pretty
much a full house, maybe one or

1188
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:31.800
two vacant seats, that's okay.
We have plenty of watchers on our K

1189
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:39.840
one TV, also on Radio one
A fourteen hundred FM, ninety three point

1190
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:43.319
three and ninety five point one.
We want to thank our sponsors, Phillip

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1192
01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:54.840
we do have our campaign Corner page. You can review all kinds of interviews

1193
01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:59.840
with our candidates in this forum.
Will also be a podcast form on the

1194
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:04.960
page on our website at Bartlesviielle Radio
dot com. We do have our early

1195
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:11.600
voting coming up on Thursday, Friday
and Saturday, fourth floor upstairs, and

1196
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:16.039
also our traditional election day which will
be on Tuesday at the eighteenth. Once

1197
01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:19.199
again, thank you all for coming, thank you all for watching, thank

1198
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:23.439
you all for listening. Make sure
you vote. Make sure you tell your

1199
01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:27.439
friends to vote, because sometimes they
forget. How could they? Thank you?

1200
01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:38.239
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